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Speaker 3: Oh and welcome to the Action Network podcast. My name

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Speaker 3: is Michael Lieboff, and I am the NHL editor here

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Speaker 3: at the Action Network. We're sneaking in a NHL season

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Speaker 3: preview podcast, and we hope that you, the Action Network

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Speaker 3: pleasure to bring you one of my friends, Pete Blackburn

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Speaker 3: of Bally Sports. The last time I saw Pete, only

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Speaker 3: one of us was wearing a shirt. We're in the

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Speaker 3: Nasau Coliseum parking lot, and he turned down a slice

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Speaker 3: of pizza from me, which is akin to going to Russia,

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Speaker 3: meeting someone and turning down a complimentary shot of vodka. Pete,

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Speaker 3: it's nice to see you again.

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Speaker 4: I have to say that I was on in enemy territory.

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Speaker 4: It was outside the coliseum, so I didn't know if

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Speaker 4: you were poisoning me with one of these sabotaging pieces

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Speaker 4: of pizza. Had to be careful, had to keep my

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Speaker 4: guard up. This is was the playoffs Bruins Islanders, and

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Speaker 4: if I had known the game ended up going the

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Speaker 3: Like I said, just like just like going to Russia,

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Speaker 3: you don't know if the vodka is going to be poisoned.

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Speaker 3: But let's just get right into it, right, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to be through the odds. They of course I brought

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Speaker 3: And at the top of the board, the Colorado Avalanche

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Speaker 3: six to one, the Tampa Bay Lightning coming off two

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Speaker 3: straight Stanley Cups. They're seven to one, the Vegas Golden

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Speaker 3: Toronto Maple leafs oh Man twelve to one, my beloved

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Speaker 3: New York Islanders twenty to one. So are the Pittsburgh Penguins,

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Speaker 3: New York Rangers watching the Capitals both at twenty five

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Speaker 3: to one. The Philadelphia Flyers are thirty to one. For

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Speaker 3: some reason, the Dallas Stars are thirty five to one,

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Speaker 3: the Saint Louis Blues thirty five to one, Calgary Flames

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Speaker 3: forty to one, the Seattle Kraken, the NHL's thirty second franchise,

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Speaker 3: fifty to one, along with the Vancouver Canucks. And then

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Speaker 3: we'll get into the real trash teams of the league.

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Speaker 3: The Anaheim Ducks, Arizona Coyotes, Detroit Redwings, and Ottawa Senators

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Speaker 3: can't even describe them as trash. The Buffalo Sabers two

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Speaker 3: hundred to one. They're your biggest long shot. Pete, give

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Speaker 3: me a couple that you like off of the board.

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Speaker 4: In terms of value. I am not blowing smoke. I

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Speaker 4: pick to win the Metro. I think they've got a

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Speaker 4: So I think that they're a team that's in really

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Speaker 1: So I think that those are my two best value picks.

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Speaker 3: Cutting onions in here because when you're talking about the

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Speaker 3: I like the Dallas Stars thirty five to one. You

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Speaker 3: the Flames became a much better team under Darryl Sutter.

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Speaker 3: And then another team I like, and this one. Most

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Speaker 3: This one is much more play on talent and just

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Speaker 3: buying low Saint Louis Blues. They're fifty to one. Their

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Speaker 3: And because I need to talk about the Islanders for

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Speaker 4: I think the Metro might be the most wide open

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Speaker 4: But one of the teams that I'm really really looking

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Speaker 4: like I said, I think the Islanders are the best team.

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Speaker 1: In that division. I think they're gonna win that division.

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Speaker 4: I you know, I think there's a lot of value

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Speaker 4: I think that they've got the best roster in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know. I was asked a couple

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Speaker 3: just bet them to win the division, right, take the

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Speaker 3: So I think, you know, if I had to pick

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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't understand why.

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Speaker 4: I know that the Pittsburgh has been there for a

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Speaker 4: quite possibly the biggest question mark in net of any

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Speaker 4: I don't understand why the Penguins are getting the odds

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Speaker 3: Well, you said it right off the top, right, there's

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Speaker 3: still the Pittsburgh Penguins. Books know that, especially in hockey,

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Speaker 3: when not that many people are betting into it like

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Penguins at fifty to one. Joe Joe casual Better

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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Penguins are good, so I'm gonna bet that.

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Speaker 3: Then they can get themselves into trouble if they do

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Speaker 3: Like you said, the goaltendings and mess. The Islanders broke

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, the Islanders just ragged all them in

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's my favorite bet in that division. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: I feel the same way about the Montreal Canadians, who,

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Speaker 3: You're not going to replace Shay Weber and you're not

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Speaker 3: But twenty five to one to win a division in

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Speaker 3: price hunting for them, Like if you like Montreal, same

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Speaker 3: at like fifty to one, because like, why like they're

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Speaker 3: I'll bet on the ceiling bad bet probably, but I can't.

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Speaker 4: I think there's just too many hurdles for them to

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Speaker 4: Like in other divisions, you look at it, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's why they're they're twenty five to one. Definitely

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Speaker 3: the Central. This one, I mean, is a straightforward as possible.

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Speaker 3: At the top, Colorado, the Stanley Cup favorite, their odds

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Speaker 3: Blues twelfth to one, Winnipeg sixteen to one, Chicago twenty

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like it's Colorado is probably the best

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Speaker 1: Like the odds are what they are for a reason.

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Speaker 4: Colorado, it'd be tough to bet against them because it

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Speaker 4: But again, like it's one of those situations where if

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Speaker 4: like Dallas had everything go wrong last year, they still

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Speaker 1: Of pieces they still have.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of reason to believe that Dallas is

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Speaker 4: Is I think if you're gonna think about it in

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Speaker 4: I think that's a better play than a team like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think like if you're not betting Colorado to

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Speaker 3: I'm going to actually bet against them to miss the

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Speaker 4: You're not wrong, Like Colorado is in its own class

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Speaker 1: I think it's very pretty competitive.

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Speaker 5: in Indiana. One eight hundred two seven zero seven to

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Speaker 5: bets off in Iowa or one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 5: three two thirty five hundred in Virginia. That's sink not

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Speaker 5: available in Nevada. Thanks so much for listening. Let's get

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Speaker 5: back to the show, right.

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Speaker 3: Let's move over the Pacific Division, similarly structured to the Central,

446
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 3: but I mean, this is a much much softer division

447
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 3: than anything I've maybe ever seen in the NHL before.

448
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 3: Vegas is odds on minus one sixty five as the

449
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 3: favorites Edmonton four to one, Seattle Kraken eight to one,

450
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 3: Calgary Flames fourteen to one, Vancouver sixteen to one, the

451
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 3: Kings twenty five to one, San Jose forty to one,

452
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: and Anaheim one hundred and fifty to one. I mean,

453
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: we talked about the Central being one good like one

454
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: elite team, then a chasing pack of four or five

455
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: good teams, decent teams. This one is one really elite

456
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 3: team at the top, and then four or five question marks.

457
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be which team is the least bad

458
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 3: that we'll get the playoff spots in this division. So similarly,

459
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 3: I like taking shot, like I outlined, I like Calgary

460
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 3: in the Stanley Cup futures part, I like them fourteen

461
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,479
Speaker 3: to one to win the division. If any, if anything

462
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: goes wrong for Vegas. They're the team that I think

463
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 3: has the highest ceiling because look, Connor McDavid, Leon Dry

464
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 3: sidle on the Oilers like they're gonna be able to score.

465
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 3: Their defense probably didn't get better, and their goaltending, I know,

466
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 3: Mike Smith was really good last year. Mike Smith is

467
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 3: seventy five years old and his backup is Miko Coskin

468
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 3: and who's been a roller coaster in the NHL, former Islander,

469
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 3: and I just can't trust that goaltending even at forty one.

470
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 3: So I would take a shot in the in the middle.

471
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 4: Guys, Yeah, I agree with you with you know, obviously

472
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 4: Vegas is at the top.

473
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't trust Edmonton.

474
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 4: I think Edmonton did get better up front, but their

475
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 4: back end is still extremely questionable and in that and

476
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 4: that can derail the season more than anything else, is

477
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: the back end and the goaltending. And I think that

478
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 4: you highlight Calgary, and I think that there's valid points

479
00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 4: to be on Calgary for some of those same reasons

480
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be on Vancouver. I think that Vancouver is

481
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: a team that did get better this offseason. Their their

482
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 4: their blue line is still a bit questionable. I think

483
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: they're going to get better goaltending.

484
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: UH.

485
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: But they are also one of those teams that basically

486
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 4: everything that could have went wrong for them last year

487
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 4: did and they had. They got a horrible year from

488
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 4: Quinn Hughes and horrible year from uh Elias Peterson who

489
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 4: barely played and when he did play, he wasn't all

490
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 4: that good. But like he is an MVP caliber caliber player.

491
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 4: And if if they get back to being I think

492
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 4: they're a well coached team, if they get back to

493
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 4: UH being the team that they were the year prior,

494
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 4: in terms of trending in the right direction, this division

495
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 4: is bad enough that they could make a leap all

496
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Speaker 4: the way to the top of the division if something

497
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 4: goes wrong for Vegas. So UH, I think there's there's

498
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 4: a good, good reason to be on Vancouver, good reason

499
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Speaker 4: to be on on Calgary.

500
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Speaker 1: Outside of that, I'm not trusting anybody, Yeah, I.

501
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: Think, And the way we're we're talking about this is

502
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: the right way to look at when you're betting divisions,

503
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: not just in the NHL but in other sports too.

504
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: Like you you're betting on is the what can go wrong?

505
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 3: How many pass to UH kind of doom are there

506
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 3: for the favorite, and I think there are more than

507
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: enough for for Vegas to take them out.

508
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I mean, especially take up Mark Andre Fleury's gone.

509
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 4: I think it's so important to have at least two

510
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: good goaltenders, and like Robin Leonard, he for as good

511
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 4: as he's been.

512
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: I think that there's still some questions there.

513
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 4: Uh, and their center depth was a problem and they

514
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 4: didn't they got Nolan Patrick. I don't know if that

515
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 4: really satisfies that need. You know, they've got a really,

516
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: really good team, but there are question marks that could

517
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 4: send them I don't want to say spiraling, but you know,

518
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 4: you gotta be good wire to wire to win a division.

519
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 4: So you know, I think that that there's there's enough

520
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 4: there red flags wise to say, hey, this team might

521
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: be great, but they may out win the division.

522
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: HM and Liner's backup Lauren Brossois. He's my pick for

523
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 3: the most handsome player in the league. Backup goalies usually

524
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 3: don't get that much shine. But and he's wearing a

525
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: mask when he's doing his job, but boy, he is

526
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: a good looking chap. All right, let's move over to

527
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: some individual awards. Markets These are so much fun, and

528
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 3: they also give you different ways to bet on teams

529
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: in certain respects. Without you know, if you think, oh,

530
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: you know the Avalanche of minus two twenty five, I

531
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: want to lay it, you might have you can get

532
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: some exposure on the Avalanche in these markets. But with

533
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 3: maybe betting on Nathan McKinnon or whatever. We'll start with

534
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: the Heart Trophy, you know, the familiar names at the top.

535
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 3: We don't have to go over the odds. Who are

536
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 3: you betting to be the league MVP this year?

537
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 4: It's it's a boring pick. It's boring, but in chock.

538
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna go Conor McDavid. I mean, he is

539
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 4: coming off one of the best seasons that we've seen,

540
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 4: best offensive seasons that we've seen in like since I've

541
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 4: been alive.

542
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: He was unbelievable and he he is the best player

543
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: in the league. And again the Edmonton got better up front.

544
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 4: He has the most help upfront in terms of a

545
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 4: forward group as he's had in maybe since getting there.

546
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: You know, they got better. Zach Hyman, Warren Fogel.

547
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: I like a lot of their additions, so, like, you know,

548
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 4: I think that they're in a good position to succeed

549
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 4: in terms of point production and him being able to

550
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 4: drag them to the playoffs. And I mean, as much

551
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 4: as I talk about not trusting Edmonton this year, I

552
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: do think they're going to get into the playoffs because

553
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 4: that division is so bad. So you know, you have

554
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 4: to make the playoffs to be an MVP candidate. So

555
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 4: you look at Conor McDavid how good he is versus

556
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 4: the playoff certainty, I think that there's still, you know,

557
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 4: a lot of reason to bank on that.

558
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: I think it's funny because McDavid is so much better

559
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 3: than everybody else in the sport that like in another league,

560
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: like in the NBA, Like what would he if Connor

561
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 3: McDade was an NBA player. I think he'd be like

562
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: minus three hundred minus four hundred to win MVP because

563
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 3: he's just that much better. But because you know, this

564
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: is hockey or whatever, and you're basically betting at this

565
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: point will McDavid play a full season, you're getting three

566
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 3: to one odds on that. I think. So, Like, as

567
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: much as I like to throw water on people for

568
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 3: staying near the top of the board, I get it.

569
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: For me. I'm going dumpster diving. I like Connor Hellibuck

570
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 3: forty to one goalies usually don't win this award. We've

571
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: seen it usually once a decade. Domini Koschik went back

572
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 3: to back in years of yr. Hellabuck is what makes

573
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: the Jets go right. He's the best goalie in the

574
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: league in my opinion. He plays behind a defense that

575
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: got better this year but has been so bad in

576
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: the past that he's been just spectacular. His goal saves

577
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: above expected are near the top of the league despite

578
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 3: playing behind that defense. So I like Hellibuck. If you're

579
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: looking at the Heart Trophy MVP as which player is

580
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: the most valuable to his team, I think Hellibuck kind

581
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 3: of fits that bill. And then the real long shot,

582
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: I like, this guy isn't even listed on the board

583
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: at a lot of places, but Jack Hughes is one

584
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: hundred and ten to one. The Devil's got a lot better.

585
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: And this is kind of what I was alluding to

586
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 3: earlier when I said, you know, if I don't think

587
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: the Devils are a good bet necessarily in the division

588
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: market or the Stanley Cup market, or even to make

589
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: the playoffs, I think they're a little overvalued as a

590
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: team because when teams have great off seasons, that tends

591
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: to happen. But with Dougie Hamilton and Tamas Tatarn in town,

592
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: the Devil's power play will get better. Hughes is a

593
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: great playmaker. He was really good last year despite the

594
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: numbers just weren't there. I think it was more bad

595
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: luck on some COVID things as well. One hundred and

596
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: ten to one. He should be like in the forty

597
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: to one range with players like you know, Matt Barcel

598
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: for instance. I like his game for this award. He

599
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 3: can He's going to be able to telly a lot

600
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: of points on that power play. The Devils will get better.

601
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: This is going to be his breakout season. He did

602
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: just deal with an injury in the preseason, but it

603
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: doesn't look too bad. Anything north of like seventy five

604
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: to one I think is a fun bet on Jack Hughes,

605
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: who looks like he still looks like he's like thirteen

606
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: years old, and then watch him play hockey and it's

607
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: just so depressing, not coming from someone who looks like

608
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: twenty years older than he is. So then let's move

609
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: on ves in A trophy for you out there who

610
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: are new to betting hockey. This is for the league's

611
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: best goaltender. I'll start because I'm in love with this man.

612
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: I bet him last year to win the vesn A trophy.

613
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: Didn't work, but he did look really good in the

614
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: second half. You Sorrows forty to one for the Predators

615
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: best goal in the league in the second half. He

616
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: did struggle in the first half of the season. He

617
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: struggled in the first half of the season in the

618
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: previous season too, so hopefully that's not a thing. But

619
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: he's the man now. Pecernni has retired. Pecernni wasn't that good,

620
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: but he had so much clout within the organization that

621
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: he probably got more minutes they should have in the

622
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: twilight of his career. This time, it's Sorrows his net.

623
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: He's probably gonna play fifty five games because David Riddick

624
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: is behind him. He's not very good as a backup.

625
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: Forty to one is a great number. I'd bet it

626
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: down to like thirty to one.

627
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the same pick.

628
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: I think that UC Sorrows is in a position to succeed,

629
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 4: and that you mentioned the trend of him struggling out

630
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 4: of the gate that could be mitigated with a bigger workload,

631
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 4: like he can work through it.

632
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Earlier in the year and he was single handed.

633
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: He single handedly dragged that team to the playoffs last year.

634
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 4: And you know, he has shown that he does typically

635
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 4: get better as the season goes on, and he is

636
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: very close. I feel like he's on the precipice of

637
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: establishing himself as an elite goaltender in the league. And

638
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: I do think that that larger workload may help get

639
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 4: him some more votes at the end of the year

640
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: when voters are looking. And you know, I think that

641
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: across the league it's becoming a trend, and it's a

642
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: trend that works of platooning and splitting workload to preserve

643
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 4: your goaltender. But if you are looking at like workload,

644
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: sometimes it gets you votes. I look at like Connor

645
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: Hellibuck a couple of years ago when he was going

646
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: up against Tukarask. I think a lot of some reason

647
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 4: why he beat Tukarask in the vezen of voting was

648
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: because his workload was so much better and his defense

649
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: was worse, so he had a tougher body of work.

650
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: For him.

651
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 4: And I think that some of that also could apply

652
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: here to UC sorrows. The thing that gives me a

653
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 4: little bit of pause is not knowing whether whether or

654
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 4: not Nashville is gonna make the playoffs. That could would

655
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: essentially derail his case for Vesna. But you know, I

656
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: think it's it's worth the shot.

657
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. If you're if you're betting you Sorrows at

658
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: forty to one to win the Vesina, you're basically betting

659
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: will the Predators be good this season? And you're getting

660
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: forty to one on it. And good, I mean they

661
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: win the division, But will they you know, meet in

662
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: the mix for a playoffs spot, because I think even

663
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: if they are in playing meaningful games in March and April,

664
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: Sorrows will will be the reason for it, and that

665
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: means that he will get some attention. That's why I

666
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: like it. Forty to one is a is a good number.

667
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: Calder Trophy, This one goes to the rookie of the Year.

668
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll make your day with this pick. I like

669
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: Jeremy Swayman twenty five to one goalie for the Bruins.

670
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: Tuker Resk is out of the picture at the moment.

671
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: He'll be splitting the crease with Linus Omark, who has

672
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: shown flashes in Buffalo. But I mean, I don't know

673
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: if you can really trust him with a full starter's workload,

674
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: and Swayman ten games is really small sample, but his

675
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: goal saved expected per sixty was near the top of

676
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: the league last year among goalies with at least ten starts.

677
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: He looked really good. Basically anytime the Bruins turned to him,

678
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: he was part of the reason they turned the season around.

679
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: I know Taylor Hall and Mike Riley get a lot

680
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: of the credit, and obviously Sweeney of the GM for

681
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: making those trades, but Swayman's goaltending was terrific in that

682
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: resurgers from the Bruins down the stretch. Twenty five to one,

683
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: he's flying under the radar because I think people assume

684
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: the call the trophy is just going to go to

685
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: people at the top of board, like Trevor Ziegeriss or

686
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: Cole Callfield because they're a little more flashy. But these

687
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: goalies tend to be undervalued in this market and most

688
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: like non goaltending specific award markets. So twenty five to

689
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: one if Spencer Knight is tend to one, and I

690
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: know his pedigree is much bigger, but like, what's the

691
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: difference between betting on Spencer Knight who's gonna also split

692
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: time with with a goalie in Florida and Jeremy Swayman

693
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: at twenty five to one.

694
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with a lot of those points.

695
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that Spencer Knights as a good

696
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: chance to win it. I mean, we've seen we've seen

697
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 4: some great stuff from Spencer Knight in a limited sample.

698
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 4: Same with Jeremy Swayman, and I think that both of

699
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: those teams have pretty as good as shots to win

700
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: that division. So like, if that happens and one of

701
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: those guys the guy, chances of them winning the Calder

702
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: is pretty significant. You know, Cole Cawfield has the best

703
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: odds right now, and I think for pretty good reason.

704
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: He got better as he got more experienced. Last year

705
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 4: he was pretty good for them in the playoffs and

706
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: he was an important player. And I think that he's

707
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 4: going to score a lot of goals, and goals are

708
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: sexy when it comes to Calder voting, and you know,

709
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 4: there's a chance that he gets you know, around thirty

710
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 4: and that could that could easily could easily snag him

711
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 4: the award. I think that Trevor Segress is probably the

712
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: best player, but he's on a bad team. So the

713
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 4: point production may not be there. So I I like

714
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 4: the Swayman pick. I liked Spencer Night. I'm really gonna

715
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: kind of lean on the goalies, uh in this one,

716
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: because I think that for as good as the as

717
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 4: good as the sexy offensive players are, goaltending can single

718
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 4: handedly swing a season. And I think that the Bruins

719
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: are gonna rely on Swayman and the Panthers are gonna

720
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 4: rely on Spencer Night, and both of those guys have

721
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 4: a chance of being like the single biggest reason why

722
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 4: one of the single biggest reasons why their team has

723
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 4: a lot of team success.

724
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with those two.

725
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: Swayman is a native of Anchorage, Alaska, just like my

726
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 3: colleague Darren Rovel. Little known, little known fact the Norris

727
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: Trophy Best Defenseman in the League. Uh, this is It's

728
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: like kind of like the Heart Trophy. The guys at

729
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 3: the top are usually going to suck up all the value,

730
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: so you can kind of sneak a long shot in

731
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: down the board. I think also this year or at

732
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: last year, where we started to see a shift in

733
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: how these awards were voted on and people started to

734
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: appreciate defense more like the art of defending. Usually this

735
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: award just goes to the player that will score the

736
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 3: most defensively. And I mean, you're not going to give

737
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: Tyson Barry the Norris Trophy. I'm sorry. So instead I'm

738
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: focusing on a couple of guys we are pretty good

739
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: in their own zone at big prices. Mackenzie Wiger. He's

740
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: seventy five to one, as high as seventy five to

741
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: one if depending on your sports book. He plays with

742
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: Aaron ep Lad on Florida's top pairing. If that team's good,

743
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 3: Mackenzie Veiger is going to get a lot of shine.

744
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: He's had a breakout. Last year was his breakout season.

745
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: Canadian media members love to talk about players who are

746
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 3: quote unquote underrated, even though we've been talking about them

747
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: for like a year and a half before that, And

748
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 3: this is his turn to be in that conversation. And

749
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: I like Ryan Pollock on the Islanders at twenty nine

750
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: to one. Him and Anna Pellick one of the best

751
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: defense pairings of the league. Pellick is a similar price,

752
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: but he just doesn't score as much. Pollock was had

753
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: down numbers defense offensively last year, but he's got a

754
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: hell of a shot and his shooting percentage was way

755
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: low hit lower than his career average. I think he

756
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: and he's in a contract here too. I think he

757
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: could score ten. If he scores ten goals, that'll get

758
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: like kind of the old school betters who do want

759
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: to bet on the Norris Trophy going to someone who

760
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: can score and plus his defensive work, we'll get the

761
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 3: new age bet betters in and the Islanders should be good.

762
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 3: He plays on a very defensively sound team. So Ryan

763
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: Pullock twenty nine to one is the other bet I

764
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 3: like in this market.

765
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting with the Norris because I feel like

766
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: the Norris is more subjective than any any of the

767
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: other awards where you know, the way that way that

768
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: writers and voters determined defensive value value for defenseman, it

769
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: kind of shifts from person to person, and it does

770
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 4: seem like one of those awards where like next guy up,

771
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 4: next man up, happens more than it should, Like I

772
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: think the voter exhaustion happens a bit more in the

773
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 4: Norris discussion than it should.

774
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: And so I'm looking at first time winners here, and.

775
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 4: I think that Charlie McAvoy is a guy who is

776
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 4: one of the most valuable defensemen to his team in

777
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 4: the entire league. And he is very, very solid, two way.

778
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: He's gonna play big, big minutes, So on a good team.

779
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: I really, I really like Charlie McAvoy. And then Jacob

780
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 4: Slaven is another guy that has been getting a ton

781
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 4: of praise over the years and hasn't hasn't really taken

782
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 4: that next step to.

783
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: Mainstream accolades.

784
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 4: I guess, so this could be Jacob Slaven's year in

785
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: terms of winning over voters and getting into that Norris discussion.

786
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: As a Long Island native, Charlie McAvoy would never turn

787
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 3: down a complimentary slice of pizza. I can tell you

788
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: that much. He's twelve to one Slave in fifteen to

789
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: one Slaven two, I think is a good pick. There's

790
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: always a time preseason, like before these numbers go up,

791
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: that I have a short list in my head. Slaven

792
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: was on and I was hoping he would sneak to

793
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 3: like thirty to one because with Hamilton out of.

794
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: Town, he's the guy.

795
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, he's the guy, right, so and that should

796
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: be a good team. My favorite betting market preseason this

797
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: is and it's because, like anything, betting hockey is just

798
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 3: gonna break your heart and you're gonna be You're gonna

799
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: hate yourself for the rest of, you know, the summer.

800
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: Or if you're betting on a hockey game, you're just

801
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: gonna hate yourself going to bed. I mean, if you

802
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 3: go to bed sad, that means that you've probably had

803
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: a good night of betting on hockey. That's you know,

804
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: because you probably lost the three one lead in the

805
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: third period or something. It's all about going to bed sad.

806
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: In this league, the Jack Adams Trophy Coach of the Year.

807
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: I have a strategy here, a little game theory. I

808
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 3: like three coaches and maybe four in the Pacific Division.

809
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: Dave Hackstall he's thirty to one, he coaches the Seattle Kraken.

810
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 3: Darryl Sutter the Calgary Flames, he's fifty to one. Travis

811
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: Green sixty six to one Vancouver Canucks. My thinking here

812
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 3: is one of these three teams is going to make

813
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: the playoffs. And if one of these three teams, whatever

814
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 3: team makes the playoffs, that coach is going to be

815
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: a finalist, whether it's the Kracking. I mean, if Dave

816
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: Hackxell gets the Crack into the playoffs, like we said,

817
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 3: This is voted on media members. Human beings are making

818
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: these picks. What better narrative than the expansion team making

819
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: the playoffs thirty to one, So the cracking or minus

820
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: one thirty two make the playoffs. Dave Hackxtill is thirty

821
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: to one to be Coach of the Year. I think

822
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 3: these two things are very heavily correlated, more so than

823
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: the other two guys on this list. But so I

824
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: like that number a lot. It's one of my favorite

825
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: bets of the season. I like Darryl Sutter fifty to one,

826
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: kind of sent similar reasons if he coaches the Flames

827
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: to a bounce back year. Media members love Darryl Sutter

828
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: because he talks like he is chewing marbles. At the

829
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: same time, he is just a hockey icon. You should

830
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: watch his postgame pressers. Maybe our beloved producer will drop

831
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: in a Daryl Sutter SoundBite.

832
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 6: It's not been a good day. I lost my glasses

833
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 6: early this morning. I had to go buy a pair

834
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 6: of seventy nine dollar reading losses. You can literally get

835
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 6: them at Costical three for twenty And then I.

836
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: Like Travis Green sixty six to one. You talked about

837
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 3: the liking the Canucks as a launch shot in the

838
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: division division so soft. If they make the playoffs at

839
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: sixty six to one, I think Travis Green will be

840
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: on a lot of ballots too.

841
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Travis Green.

842
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 4: I also like another coach in the Pacific for some

843
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 4: of the same reasons, but I'm going in a different direction.

844
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: I like Todd McClellan, head coach of the Kings. I

845
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: think the Kings are going to take a step forward

846
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 4: this year and they could make the playoffs and a

847
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: division that is quite bad, I think that they are

848
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 4: trending in the right direction.

849
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: They added some nice pieces.

850
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 4: They could be a playoff team, and I think that

851
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 4: for better or for worse, the Jack Adams Award goes

852
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 4: to like the most surprising team the coach of the

853
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 4: most surprising team, and the Kings have been bad for

854
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 4: the past handful of years and now they could be

855
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 4: a surprising playoff team. So Todd McClellan could be the

856
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: beneficiary of that. Another guy that I'm looking at is

857
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 4: Gerard Glant in New York. Because the Rangers play in

858
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: a wide open Metro Division. The Metro, I think the

859
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: Rangers are pois to take a step forward. They could

860
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: finish with like mid nineties points wise and get into

861
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: the playoffs, and with the team that you know, I

862
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 4: think that may may benefit Glant that that he is

863
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: a first year coach, comes in, gets that team into

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Speaker 4: the playoffs, gets some competitive and gets the most out.

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Speaker 1: Of that team.

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Speaker 4: And he's he's been successful and arriving and having an

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Speaker 4: immediate impact as as a first year coach. So I

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Speaker 4: think that those two guys are the guys that I'm

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Speaker 4: looking at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, McClellan was the other guy on my list that

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Speaker 3: I was talking about. I haven't bet him yet, but

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Speaker 3: if I'm betting the other three, I should bet him

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Speaker 3: because if the Kings get in and he wins the

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Speaker 3: award and I don't have a ticket, that'll be the

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Speaker 3: third straight heartbreak for me in this market. I had

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Speaker 3: John Tortorella. You said, like, it goes to the most

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Speaker 3: surprising team, you'd think that, but John Toterella lost to

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Speaker 3: Bruce Cassidy of the Bruins, who were a Cup favorite

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Speaker 3: that year. And then last year I had Joel Quinnville

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Speaker 3: and he lost to Rod Brendemor of a team that

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Speaker 3: was priced like one of the top eight teams in

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Speaker 3: the League in the Carolina Hurricanes. So this is a

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Speaker 3: market just full of pain, which makes it a lot

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Speaker 3: of fun. Let's move to the Rocket Richard Trophy. This

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Speaker 3: has given out to the player that scored the most goals,

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Speaker 3: as simple as that. Who is going to score the

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Speaker 3: most goals this season? Anybody who like on this board?

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Speaker 1: I like Sam Reinhart.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's gonna surprise some people, but

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Speaker 4: Sam Reinhart scored twenty five goals in Buffalo last year

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Speaker 4: for one of the worst teams that has played in

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Speaker 4: the NHL in a long long time. They could barely

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Speaker 4: keep it together, and he scored twenty five goals without

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Speaker 4: Jack Eiicole.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I think that.

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Speaker 4: Sam Reinhart going to Florida to a team that looks

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Speaker 4: to be pretty good playing with Alex Barkov and Cardiver Hagy.

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Speaker 4: If that's the top line with the Panthers, Sam reyin

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Speaker 4: Hart could score an easy forty goals this year, and

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Speaker 4: I think that there's value in playing him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's on my list. So I had three players

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Speaker 3: on my list, Sam Ryan Hart, He's thirty five to

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Speaker 3: one at MGM. I like Miko Ranton in twenty one.

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Speaker 3: He was fifth in twenty twenty one with thirty goals.

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Speaker 3: He's if he stays healthy and his running mates Nathan

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Speaker 3: McKinnon and Gabriel Landiskog stay healthy, he's a lock for

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Speaker 3: at least thirty with a ceiling of maybe fifty to

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Speaker 3: fifty five. So at twenty to one, rather than betting

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Speaker 3: McKinnon or Landiskog, I think Ranton in on that line

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Speaker 3: makes the most sense. It's probably going to be the

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Speaker 3: best line in hockey, maybe outside of the perfection line

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Speaker 3: in Boston. And I like Andre Stretchnikov in Carolina. I

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Speaker 3: bet him last year too, Guys, I can't quit fifty

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Speaker 3: to one twenty goals based in his two full seasons,

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Speaker 3: and that's including the one that was not even full.

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Speaker 3: It was the hiatus season. He played sixty eight games.

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Speaker 3: He was over twenty goals. Last year, he would have

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Speaker 3: been on pace to being like twenty five goal range.

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Speaker 3: He's going to take another step forward. The Hurricanes are

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Speaker 3: so deep offensively that there's a worry that the goals

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Speaker 3: are spread around too much. But I think him he's

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Speaker 3: their best winger. He's one of their best players. He's

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Speaker 3: one of the best wingers in the league. I think

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Speaker 3: we talked about underrated players even though he was a

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Speaker 3: top draft pick. I think he kind of flies under

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Speaker 3: the radar a little bit, not likely to win, but

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Speaker 3: at fifty to one, I like his ceiling. So that'll

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Speaker 3: do it. Now. This has been the Action Network podcast.

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Speaker 3: We'll turn back over to the football guys tomorrow. We

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Speaker 3: apologize to all of you out there who are wondering

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Speaker 3: why we're talking about hockey on this podcast feed, But

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Speaker 3: the good news is for those of you who like hockey,

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Speaker 3: we will have a NHL podcast launching sometime around American Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 3: which is a little bit later than Canadian Thanksgiving, which

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Speaker 3: ironically falls around Columbus Day. So for Pete Blackburn Avalley

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Speaker 3: Sports and our producer Matt Mitchell, I'm Michael Lee buff

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Speaker 3: enjoy the hockey ate.

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