WEBVTT - Buck Brief - Hadley Arkes 0:00:11.697 --> 0:00:14.977 You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 0:00:14.977 --> 0:00:17.977 you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 0:00:18.017 --> 0:00:19.737 wherever you get your podcasts. 0:00:20.137 --> 0:00:22.657 Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Brief. Join now by 0:00:22.937 --> 0:00:29.737 a very special guest, Professor Hadley Arcus, fifty years at 0:00:29.857 --> 0:00:36.097 Amherst College, tenured professor of political science there, perhaps for 0:00:36.177 --> 0:00:39.897 some of you, most notably the early tutor of my 0:00:40.297 --> 0:00:44.977 political journey twenty years ago he was. He was my 0:00:45.337 --> 0:00:49.897 advisor both for thesis and general academic advisor at Amherst College. 0:00:50.137 --> 0:00:52.257 He is now the founder and director of the James 0:00:52.257 --> 0:00:56.217 Wilson Institute, which is doing fantastic work and a Professor Arcis, 0:00:56.457 --> 0:01:00.057 as I'm fond of telling my audience any lapses in 0:01:00.097 --> 0:01:03.977 my political judgment or understanding could be squarely placed at 0:01:04.297 --> 0:01:05.257 your eminent feet. 0:01:05.857 --> 0:01:09.297 This is absolutely But look, I just rad you're the 0:01:09.297 --> 0:01:13.737 most favorite, my favorite favorite student of one of my 0:01:13.817 --> 0:01:18.537 most favorite count places high school. 0:01:18.577 --> 0:01:19.617 Thank you, Thank you. 0:01:19.657 --> 0:01:21.777 Regis is a great as a great institution, and we're 0:01:21.777 --> 0:01:23.377 still trying to fight that place. 0:01:23.217 --> 0:01:27.857 From Yeah, but you are one of the two most 0:01:27.857 --> 0:01:30.377 celebrated figures from Regis. 0:01:30.577 --> 0:01:32.617 I know Fauci is the other one. Don't think you're 0:01:32.617 --> 0:01:35.097 going to surprise me with that one among the I 0:01:35.137 --> 0:01:36.017 have said, among the. 0:01:37.657 --> 0:01:39.537 Yeah, your invitation is more enhanced though. 0:01:39.577 --> 0:01:42.937 Yeahs Fauci, I think is And I really say this 0:01:43.417 --> 0:01:46.337 in all honesty. I think that he may be the 0:01:46.537 --> 0:01:50.017 single most destructive bureaucrat in the history of the bureaucrat 0:01:50.057 --> 0:01:52.217 in the history of the United States. And I think 0:01:52.257 --> 0:01:56.737 he may be personally responsible for, as a function of policy, uh, 0:01:56.977 --> 0:02:01.737 more suffering misery and economic calamity than any other living 0:02:01.737 --> 0:02:04.137 American today. So that that's how I try to line 0:02:04.137 --> 0:02:06.697 it up. But a graduate of Regis High School. 0:02:07.537 --> 0:02:10.977 That that that's said that what's it's uh the Telerance 0:02:11.457 --> 0:02:13.937 remark when he heard that memory Antoinette had been executed, 0:02:13.937 --> 0:02:17.657 he said, well, I'm nothing against her personally, you know, well, 0:02:17.897 --> 0:02:20.897 I'm nothing. I'm nothing against it personally. He's in he's 0:02:21.057 --> 0:02:23.577 remember the class of fifty eight, which would have been 0:02:23.577 --> 0:02:23.977 my year. 0:02:24.537 --> 0:02:27.537 Oh wow, yeah, yes. 0:02:26.937 --> 0:02:29.497 He played basketball there. But anyway, that's our way I went. 0:02:29.777 --> 0:02:30.297 We are here. 0:02:30.337 --> 0:02:33.657 We are here to figure out how we can uh 0:02:33.737 --> 0:02:36.457 save the Republican Party and save a whole lot of law, 0:02:36.697 --> 0:02:38.697 a whole lot of lives. Also in the process, Professor 0:02:38.817 --> 0:02:41.377 arkis in the Fight for life layout. Let me give 0:02:41.417 --> 0:02:42.937 you a premise and then I want to let you 0:02:42.977 --> 0:02:46.657 just take take it away. Right now, the momentum is 0:02:47.377 --> 0:02:50.337 the GOP cannot win going into this election on the 0:02:50.377 --> 0:02:54.417 issue of being pro life or the fight for life. 0:02:55.057 --> 0:02:57.697 That is the that is the the issue du jour 0:02:57.817 --> 0:03:00.017 right now in a lot for a lot of people, 0:03:00.657 --> 0:03:02.817 that is the where the political momentum is. 0:03:02.817 --> 0:03:03.497 What do you say? 0:03:04.937 --> 0:03:09.017 I say, this is this? They have this view. You know, 0:03:09.097 --> 0:03:12.257 the Republican political class has always been kind of sheepish 0:03:12.257 --> 0:03:14.737 and talking about this. You know, the genius of the 0:03:14.777 --> 0:03:19.497 conservative jewisprudence is that we would return the issue to 0:03:19.497 --> 0:03:22.257 the political arena. They return it to the political arena 0:03:22.457 --> 0:03:24.937 where the culture had been now stacked against us for 0:03:24.937 --> 0:03:27.617 fifty years with the Court have been teaching there's something 0:03:27.697 --> 0:03:31.457 deeply rightful and necessary about abortion. So you're turning it 0:03:31.537 --> 0:03:35.457 into that kind of culture without doing any teaching. And 0:03:35.497 --> 0:03:38.057 the critical point is that no, there's a way of 0:03:38.217 --> 0:03:43.457 returning tables on the Democrats and bringing forth, as my 0:03:43.537 --> 0:03:46.457 pitch is, the old Born Alive Infants Protection Act. This 0:03:46.617 --> 0:03:49.937 was brought forth twenty years ago. Something I wrote for 0:03:50.017 --> 0:03:53.617 the debating kid of the first first George Bush to 0:03:54.097 --> 0:03:56.617 all write a panic among the Republican Party when the 0:03:56.737 --> 0:04:00.137 question was an abortion could be returned to the States. 0:03:59.977 --> 0:04:03.937 Tell everybody about what the Born Alive Protection Act is? 0:04:05.497 --> 0:04:08.297 That was it a move to make the first most 0:04:08.457 --> 0:04:12.737 modest step on abortion, to see if we could protect 0:04:12.777 --> 0:04:16.097 simply the child who survived in abortion. Because there was 0:04:16.137 --> 0:04:19.337 one federal court in nineteen seventy seven dealing with a 0:04:19.417 --> 0:04:22.217 child who survived an abortion for twenty one days, undergone 0:04:22.217 --> 0:04:25.577 a surgery, died. The question was where's there an obligation 0:04:25.657 --> 0:04:28.457 to preserve the life that child? And the answer tended 0:04:28.457 --> 0:04:31.617 by Judge Hainsworth was no, it is not a child 0:04:31.737 --> 0:04:35.697 mark for for the protection of the law. That's a 0:04:35.697 --> 0:04:39.297 fetus of mark for an abortion. In other words, the 0:04:39.377 --> 0:04:41.897 right to an abortion was the right to a dead fetus. 0:04:42.337 --> 0:04:45.217 So I had something the draft for President Bush saying 0:04:45.217 --> 0:04:47.577 why don't we start there? Because the other side says 0:04:49.377 --> 0:04:53.297 they're against infanticide, which means they're willing to protect the 0:04:53.377 --> 0:04:55.777 child at some point, So let's invite them to tell 0:04:55.857 --> 0:04:59.057 us when and if nothing else is forthcoming, what about birth? 0:04:59.417 --> 0:05:03.057 Can we protect a child born alive? Well, we started that. 0:05:03.177 --> 0:05:05.137 We brought that fourth in two thousand. It was passing 0:05:05.177 --> 0:05:08.657 two thousand and two, and to say that even that 0:05:08.777 --> 0:05:13.737 child marked for an abortion is a person protected under 0:05:13.777 --> 0:05:17.137 the law. But for the sake of averting a veto 0:05:17.217 --> 0:05:20.897 from Bill Clinton at the time, the drafters of the 0:05:20.937 --> 0:05:25.377 bill dropped the penalties. But then in twenty thirteen, we 0:05:25.417 --> 0:05:29.257 had this abutoire run by doctor Gosnoll in Philadelphia. We 0:05:29.257 --> 0:05:32.257 were snipping the necks of babies who survived the abortion. 0:05:32.977 --> 0:05:34.617 And one of the women who was helping us at 0:05:34.617 --> 0:05:39.297 the time, just Stantic, a nurse in Illinois, was dealing 0:05:39.297 --> 0:05:41.857 with a live birth abortion where the child was delivered 0:05:41.897 --> 0:05:44.937 live and put in the refuse room to die. And 0:05:44.937 --> 0:05:47.337 as she got on the air, nurses were calling in 0:05:47.377 --> 0:05:49.577 all over the country saying, we've been doing those for 0:05:49.697 --> 0:05:52.937 years in our hospital. More of this was going on 0:05:53.017 --> 0:05:56.457 than we thought. Well, when the killing started again in 0:05:56.457 --> 0:06:00.057 twenty thirteen, this was the moment to bring forth the 0:06:00.137 --> 0:06:03.377 move to restore those penalties that had been stripped away 0:06:04.457 --> 0:06:07.777 when we first enacted the bill. The Democrats were embarrassed 0:06:07.777 --> 0:06:12.377 to oppose it, so they were the Democrats in controlled 0:06:12.417 --> 0:06:15.697 the Senate. Harry Reid brought the bill to the floor 0:06:15.737 --> 0:06:19.137 of the for the vote, and Kyl Rove asked me 0:06:19.177 --> 0:06:22.217 when we were signing. The President was signed the bill, 0:06:22.257 --> 0:06:24.777 Karl said, why do you think they let that happen? 0:06:25.497 --> 0:06:27.657 I said, I don't know. What's your surmise? They thought, 0:06:28.097 --> 0:06:31.137 he thought people must have cared about this. Well, I 0:06:31.137 --> 0:06:34.737 don't know. When the killings started again in twenty thirteen, 0:06:34.777 --> 0:06:37.937 we'd bring it back. But now there's a dramatically altered situation. 0:06:38.617 --> 0:06:41.137 The Democrats had were reluctantly gone wrong with us in 0:06:41.177 --> 0:06:44.137 two thousand and two, but now the division between the 0:06:44.177 --> 0:06:49.297 parties was utterly cohesive. Every Publican voting in this House 0:06:49.897 --> 0:06:53.137 voted to restore the penalties to the Born Alive Act, 0:06:53.457 --> 0:06:58.297 and virtually every Democrat voting that was in September twenty 0:06:58.417 --> 0:07:02.057 fifteen voted against, except for a handful of pro life 0:07:02.097 --> 0:07:07.097 Democrats still there. So that September twenty fifteen, who was 0:07:07.137 --> 0:07:10.297 tried again in January twenty eighteen, with the republic can 0:07:10.337 --> 0:07:14.137 still in control, same kind of vote, cohesive alignment, and 0:07:14.217 --> 0:07:16.777 let's try it again in January twenty twenty three, when 0:07:16.777 --> 0:07:20.217 the Republicans came back and the vote was that party 0:07:20.257 --> 0:07:23.857 line down the way two twenty to two ten. There's 0:07:23.897 --> 0:07:28.177 only one pro life Democrat, Henry Cooler, who came over. See. 0:07:28.217 --> 0:07:31.137 So the point is for their Democrat, the cats right now, 0:07:32.857 --> 0:07:35.297 the right to abortion does not even end at the 0:07:35.337 --> 0:07:38.337 point of birth. And the curious point is that this 0:07:38.377 --> 0:07:41.457 has never been picked up the even Fox News. I 0:07:41.497 --> 0:07:44.137 heard Bett Bear doing an interview with Doug Showan saying 0:07:44.657 --> 0:07:47.737 this is the issue abortion that will win it and 0:07:47.817 --> 0:07:51.417 win it for Joe Biden. And what was amazing is 0:07:51.457 --> 0:07:53.897 that Brett Bear could not turn and say, but don't 0:07:53.977 --> 0:07:56.617 you to them, don't you think the Democrats have a 0:07:56.657 --> 0:08:00.217 problem that they acknowledge no limits to the right to 0:08:00.257 --> 0:08:04.817 abortion even when the child comes out alive. Fox News 0:08:04.857 --> 0:08:08.417 will not cover it. Beth Bear was a participant in 0:08:08.577 --> 0:08:13.977 three presidential bates over twenty sixteen to twenty sixteen and 0:08:14.017 --> 0:08:18.097 then twenty twenty, and other debates among the Republicans never 0:08:18.177 --> 0:08:20.977 raise the issue, so there's some kind of a blockage there. 0:08:21.777 --> 0:08:25.057 But for Trump, this is tailor, This is tailor made 0:08:25.097 --> 0:08:25.377 for him. 0:08:25.457 --> 0:08:27.617 Can we, professor Ars, can we hold for one second 0:08:27.977 --> 0:08:29.377 because I want I want to bring you back on 0:08:29.377 --> 0:08:33.017 this specific issue of Trump, but just with a line 0:08:33.017 --> 0:08:34.617 of the clock out A word from our sponsor here, 0:08:34.657 --> 0:08:36.977 the Oxford Gold Group. I keep hearing that people are 0:08:37.017 --> 0:08:38.897 on the fence about owning gold and silver, and look, 0:08:38.937 --> 0:08:41.177 I get it right. This is something you want to do. 0:08:41.377 --> 0:08:43.857 A put a portion of your assets inswer. You want 0:08:43.897 --> 0:08:46.777 to diversify. You want to have some precious metals on hand, 0:08:47.217 --> 0:08:50.377 because just look at what can happen with the massive 0:08:50.457 --> 0:08:54.417 changes in inflation in global economies. You could have a 0:08:54.457 --> 0:08:57.777 war breakout. And if you look historically, gold and silver 0:08:57.937 --> 0:09:00.217 have increase in value over time. You can use it 0:09:00.257 --> 0:09:03.937 as a hedge against inflation. It's a tangible currency in 0:09:03.977 --> 0:09:06.417 the event of things going really haywire, but also just 0:09:06.497 --> 0:09:09.257 a store of historical value. That's what gold is. I 0:09:09.297 --> 0:09:11.737 have gold and silver on hand. I think you should too. 0:09:11.817 --> 0:09:14.777 Call the Oxford Gold Group. You may qualify for up 0:09:14.777 --> 0:09:17.337 to ten thousand dollars in free precious metals, depending on 0:09:17.377 --> 0:09:17.937 your purchase. 0:09:18.257 --> 0:09:19.337 Called the Oxford Gold Group. 0:09:19.377 --> 0:09:21.737 Now that's who I get my gold and silver from 0:09:21.817 --> 0:09:24.337 eight three three nine nine to five gold eight three 0:09:24.417 --> 0:09:28.177 three nine nine five g O L. D all right, 0:09:28.217 --> 0:09:30.737 Professor Arkis, So bring us back to the wait. 0:09:31.577 --> 0:09:33.297 I put it. I put in my order into the gold. 0:09:33.377 --> 0:09:35.297 He was a sofas, Thank. 0:09:35.137 --> 0:09:35.537 You, sir. 0:09:36.177 --> 0:09:40.257 It's ever if you if you look, if you look 0:09:40.297 --> 0:09:42.577 at a charge gold gold the last. 0:09:42.337 --> 0:09:44.737 Thirty years pretty sound. 0:09:45.737 --> 0:09:49.097 It turns out, you know what people you know what 0:09:49.137 --> 0:09:51.177 people get concerned about, or rather when they ask me 0:09:51.217 --> 0:09:53.577 what worries me? True story. Actually somebody called in once 0:09:53.617 --> 0:09:56.817 and asked in twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen, what kept me 0:09:56.897 --> 0:10:00.377 up late at night? And I said, uh, it was 0:10:00.417 --> 0:10:04.177 actually back to your I said, a mutated bacterial pandemic, 0:10:04.337 --> 0:10:06.697 something like a bubonic plague. And this is pre COVID 0:10:06.737 --> 0:10:09.457 and everything else. But the one that I still now 0:10:09.457 --> 0:10:11.417 we've been through that whole nightmare, but the one that 0:10:11.457 --> 0:10:13.377 I still tell everybody. If you really want to feel 0:10:13.417 --> 0:10:15.657 bad about the future, just look at the history of 0:10:15.697 --> 0:10:19.017 Fiat currency over time. Look at what ends up happening 0:10:19.057 --> 0:10:22.177 over time. It is not a happy story when governments 0:10:22.217 --> 0:10:24.577 are able to print money, whether you're talking about ancient 0:10:24.697 --> 0:10:29.137 Rome or or various iterations of French regimes, or just 0:10:29.137 --> 0:10:29.897 go down the list. 0:10:30.457 --> 0:10:34.937 But Professor Kay, talk about anchoring, talk about anchoring moral truths. 0:10:35.057 --> 0:10:35.737 You've got one. 0:10:35.937 --> 0:10:38.857 Yeah, Hey, someone's got to pay the bills. 0:10:38.857 --> 0:10:42.097 Professor listen, I think the good news in the morning 0:10:42.217 --> 0:10:44.337 was that people are still reluctant, were getting get more 0:10:44.337 --> 0:10:47.697 reluctant to buy electric cars. That is, that's very helpful 0:10:47.737 --> 0:10:48.097 news for. 0:10:48.057 --> 0:10:51.097 This Well, I my favorite story of the last week 0:10:51.537 --> 0:10:54.257 or the last couple of weeks wash you know, the 0:10:54.297 --> 0:10:56.657 New Republic, which should just be called the new Communist 0:10:57.097 --> 0:10:59.857 They they have admitted that recycling plastic. 0:10:59.537 --> 0:11:00.697 Is a giant waste of time. 0:11:01.377 --> 0:11:04.497 Finally, which is which is a huge, a huge benefit 0:11:04.537 --> 0:11:05.977 I think, I think to mankind. 0:11:06.017 --> 0:11:09.537 So all right, now back to the issue hand. 0:11:09.657 --> 0:11:11.817 But I know some people I'm not going to say who, 0:11:11.857 --> 0:11:13.577 I know some people who maybe can get in Trump's 0:11:13.657 --> 0:11:17.537 year on some things. Professor arkis and he is our nominee, 0:11:17.737 --> 0:11:19.857 and he is going to have to address this issue 0:11:19.897 --> 0:11:21.857 of life. How can he do it? How do we 0:11:21.897 --> 0:11:25.177 do the two things of maintaining principle, saving lives but 0:11:25.337 --> 0:11:28.457 also winning because if you lose, then the lunatics are 0:11:28.457 --> 0:11:29.057 in charge. 0:11:30.497 --> 0:11:32.297 Well, no, this is Taylor made for him, and my 0:11:32.377 --> 0:11:35.337 dear friend Tom Klegenstein is supposed to be interviewing Trump. 0:11:35.377 --> 0:11:37.617 He's been close to Trump. He'll try to get this 0:11:37.737 --> 0:11:40.377 my piece in his hands. This is Taylor made for 0:11:40.417 --> 0:11:44.097 Trump because he's come out with av of the sixteen 0:11:44.097 --> 0:11:47.937 week bill on abortion, which is good because he's as 0:11:48.057 --> 0:11:50.657 we can do something at the national level. But the 0:11:50.657 --> 0:11:52.817 other side will just pound him on the matter of 0:11:52.817 --> 0:11:56.697 your doing something to a national vote. What he could 0:11:56.737 --> 0:11:58.617 do is just turn the tables on him. He doesn't 0:11:58.657 --> 0:12:01.177 have to be on the defensive. He said, look, you 0:12:01.297 --> 0:12:05.897 have something to explain. You will not acknowledge a limit 0:12:05.937 --> 0:12:08.817 to abortion even at the point of birth. We're going 0:12:08.897 --> 0:12:12.097 to start with that of all bill to put in 0:12:12.217 --> 0:12:16.217 place that simplest point that even that child mark from 0:12:16.297 --> 0:12:19.897 abortion is a human being, a small human being who 0:12:19.897 --> 0:12:23.297 comes with the protection of the law. Can we he said, 0:12:23.537 --> 0:12:26.937 we can bring together people on both sides, even he 0:12:26.977 --> 0:12:29.897 wants to do that, even people who are pro choice. 0:12:30.217 --> 0:12:34.537 Looks up some restrictions on abortion, he could bring them over. Now, 0:12:35.257 --> 0:12:37.817 even if the Republicans take control of the Senate, it 0:12:37.817 --> 0:12:40.657 will be very hard to get sixty votes to bring 0:12:40.697 --> 0:12:44.497 that bill on sixteen weeks to the floor for the vote. 0:12:45.097 --> 0:12:47.377 But you will be able to bring that bill on 0:12:48.457 --> 0:12:51.617 saving life the child who survives. You will be able 0:12:51.617 --> 0:12:54.057 to get that to the to the get sixty votes 0:12:54.097 --> 0:12:56.617 to bring that to the floor finally, and what's that's 0:12:56.657 --> 0:12:58.737 in place? Of course the other side, I said, wow, 0:12:58.737 --> 0:13:01.697 you want to do some other things. See, of course 0:13:01.737 --> 0:13:03.737 we're not hiding it from you. We're going to come 0:13:03.737 --> 0:13:06.417 back and ask you what's the difference of that same 0:13:06.617 --> 0:13:11.817 child five minutes earlier, five weeks, five days, five months earlier. 0:13:11.977 --> 0:13:15.297 It's the same child. Now here's the point. If you 0:13:15.337 --> 0:13:17.657 don't want to go with us, well then you don't 0:13:17.697 --> 0:13:20.977 vote with us. It's our job to persuade you. You 0:13:21.017 --> 0:13:23.737 have nothing to lose. But we're telling you. Once we 0:13:23.857 --> 0:13:26.857 put in place that point, we've given you something to 0:13:26.897 --> 0:13:31.137 think about. Look, just as Leader made the point in 0:13:31.177 --> 0:13:34.577 that Dobb's decision that if we can protect the child 0:13:34.897 --> 0:13:39.857 after viability, after the child could be survive outside the womb, 0:13:40.777 --> 0:13:43.817 why can't we protect the same child before viability. It's 0:13:43.857 --> 0:13:47.937 the same child. It's the same child. So whether we're 0:13:47.937 --> 0:13:51.937 talking about fifteen weeks or six weeks, it's the same entity. 0:13:52.177 --> 0:13:54.297 We think with the same child. Now, if you just 0:13:54.377 --> 0:13:59.137 plant that first point that people are clear whatever this is, No, 0:13:59.657 --> 0:14:01.377 we don't think that the right to abortion is the 0:14:01.457 --> 0:14:04.817 right to kill a baby who survives. That's a real 0:14:04.897 --> 0:14:07.697 human being with a claim to our concern and protection, 0:14:08.617 --> 0:14:12.937 just plant simple point that the media refuse to cover 0:14:13.377 --> 0:14:14.577 and refuse to acknowledge. 0:14:14.697 --> 0:14:16.977 Oh, I was gonna say, I hopefully, but I can 0:14:17.017 --> 0:14:21.177 assume that the the response to this, having been in 0:14:21.217 --> 0:14:24.417 some of these public scuffles, Professor archis now for for 0:14:24.497 --> 0:14:26.617 many years. You know what they will say, and this 0:14:26.697 --> 0:14:27.697 is this is a tough one. 0:14:27.737 --> 0:14:28.777 This is UH. 0:14:28.857 --> 0:14:32.777 They will deny reality. They will say that this does 0:14:32.897 --> 0:14:36.137 not happen, that there's no need for even what you 0:14:36.177 --> 0:14:39.257 are talking about because it does not happen. And then 0:14:39.257 --> 0:14:41.097 if we show them, well, here is a case of 0:14:41.137 --> 0:14:43.657 it happening, they'll say, well, that was just one case. 0:14:43.697 --> 0:14:46.217 You know, this is this is where it becomes impossible. 0:14:46.217 --> 0:14:50.177 It's like arguing with the with the UH, the mass psychology, 0:14:51.057 --> 0:14:54.017 and instead of any individual who can take your argument 0:14:54.057 --> 0:14:54.857 at face value. 0:14:56.417 --> 0:14:59.297 But the answer to that is it does happen. We 0:14:59.377 --> 0:15:01.737 have the the case, the evidence about the case of 0:15:01.817 --> 0:15:05.657 doctor Gosnell in Philadelphia snipping the nets of those babies. 0:15:05.857 --> 0:15:08.817 We have Jenna Nessen and the people we've brought forth 0:15:08.817 --> 0:15:11.777 in the hearings, the women, the people who've survived, the 0:15:11.857 --> 0:15:14.937 survivors abortion who aren't here to tell the story that 0:15:15.017 --> 0:15:18.137 it happened, and we have the kind of testimonies brought 0:15:18.137 --> 0:15:21.457 in by Jill Staneka, by nurses throughout the country that yes, 0:15:21.657 --> 0:15:24.657 it really is happening. It really is happening. We're not 0:15:24.697 --> 0:15:27.337 collecting all the evidence on it, but it is happening. 0:15:27.537 --> 0:15:30.337 And the point is, look, even if we're dealing with 0:15:30.417 --> 0:15:33.417 only a handful of lives, buck, this is the argument. 0:15:34.097 --> 0:15:37.257 Even if we're saving a handful of lives, and we 0:15:37.257 --> 0:15:40.177 can carve out from that vast volume of eight hundred 0:15:40.257 --> 0:15:44.657 thousand abortions a year, we can rescue a handful of lives. 0:15:44.977 --> 0:15:46.737 There's nothing trifling about that. 0:15:47.657 --> 0:15:50.177 Okay, Yeah, that's just one. 0:15:50.217 --> 0:15:52.817 Life applies to democrats and a whole range of endeavors, 0:15:53.057 --> 0:15:53.617 not this one. 0:15:53.697 --> 0:15:56.097 So much, that said so much. 0:15:56.137 --> 0:15:57.057 That's right, that's right. 0:15:57.137 --> 0:15:59.057 I also want to ask you, professor, while we got you, 0:15:59.177 --> 0:16:00.697 just to weigh in a little bit on the on 0:16:00.737 --> 0:16:04.097 the campus issue. But first and a little bit of 0:16:04.137 --> 0:16:06.617 ammerst the place we share in common and what things 0:16:06.937 --> 0:16:09.417 how things turned after we left. We'll do a few 0:16:09.457 --> 0:16:12.177 minutes on that here to come back. But first up, 0:16:12.217 --> 0:16:15.017 you know, I want to tell everybody about Patriot Defender 0:16:15.137 --> 0:16:18.537 It is a legal defense membership, and it's something that 0:16:18.697 --> 0:16:20.937 you just want to have these days, no cost, legal 0:16:20.937 --> 0:16:24.137 defense to protect your rights, freedom's reputation, and way of life. 0:16:24.337 --> 0:16:25.457 Speak up at a school. 0:16:25.177 --> 0:16:28.897 Board meeting about vaccine mandate, suffer consequences, your legal defense 0:16:28.977 --> 0:16:31.017 is covered, your right to free speech is denied, You 0:16:31.097 --> 0:16:34.057 suffer consequences. Legal defense covered. 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Sometimes when it comes 0:17:08.337 --> 0:17:12.377 to the way the media covers Trump with how is it, 0:17:12.377 --> 0:17:15.217 it almost becomes metaphysical. They say Trump is hitler, and 0:17:15.217 --> 0:17:17.777 then he's worse than Hitler, and then we say, well, 0:17:17.777 --> 0:17:19.897 how can you be worse than worse than Hitler? You know, 0:17:20.017 --> 0:17:22.417 where do they go? Where does where does when they 0:17:22.497 --> 0:17:24.657 go to eleven on the dial and there is no twelve. 0:17:25.537 --> 0:17:28.617 That's a bit how I felt about about the politics 0:17:28.657 --> 0:17:30.897 that reigned at Amherst twenty years ago. 0:17:31.657 --> 0:17:33.457 What happens? What happened since? 0:17:35.697 --> 0:17:38.017 Oh, it's just it's it's just it's just been hideous. 0:17:38.057 --> 0:17:40.417 I remember when nine to eleven occurred when you were 0:17:40.417 --> 0:17:42.617 a student. Yeah, I remember, I didn't. I didn't go 0:17:42.697 --> 0:17:44.857 to the faculty meeting because I knew what was going on. 0:17:45.177 --> 0:17:47.737 We're gonna have colleagues telling us somehow that thing in 0:17:47.777 --> 0:17:51.257 nine to eleven it was somehow our fault, and I 0:17:51.297 --> 0:17:53.697 think it was. I thought it was either you or 0:17:53.777 --> 0:17:55.777 Ted Hertzberg who got up in the middle of that 0:17:55.857 --> 0:17:58.897 crowd and said, I can't believe we're hearing this from 0:17:58.937 --> 0:18:03.217 grown ups now in the Amherst. Amherst. 0:18:03.457 --> 0:18:05.857 It was feisty little Hertzburg, by the way, shout out 0:18:05.857 --> 0:18:07.057 to feisty little Herzburg. 0:18:08.377 --> 0:18:10.857 Okay, that's it, wasn't it. 0:18:10.937 --> 0:18:13.057 I was there with him, I was sitting with him, 0:18:13.057 --> 0:18:14.297 and he got up and dinner and then we got 0:18:14.297 --> 0:18:14.977 out and we left. 0:18:15.057 --> 0:18:18.257 Yeah, I thought it was either you or Ted who 0:18:18.297 --> 0:18:21.137 got that line off. It was great. And then people 0:18:21.257 --> 0:18:26.057 came showed up for Republican meeting. Look and Amherst, it 0:18:26.137 --> 0:18:29.657 is inconceivable you could have a meeting for the burning 0:18:29.697 --> 0:18:33.577 of crosses. If there's anything said, any incident that indicates 0:18:33.937 --> 0:18:38.177 racial animus. Classes are called off, there's a fake cross bred, 0:18:38.217 --> 0:18:40.497 there's a cross brain at Ambers. Before you were a student, 0:18:41.017 --> 0:18:44.497 it had classes were called off. And I raised the 0:18:44.577 --> 0:18:46.897 question at the time, well what if the ACLU says 0:18:46.977 --> 0:18:49.977 this is protected speech, Well, it doesn't matter to us. 0:18:50.177 --> 0:18:52.737 Then it came out there were black students who burned 0:18:52.737 --> 0:18:55.497 the cross for the sake of getting something going. People 0:18:55.497 --> 0:18:58.857 had to change. But the point is it's just it. 0:18:59.657 --> 0:19:03.057 Even though Scalia would say that it's right at the 0:19:03.057 --> 0:19:05.697 First Amendment to burn crosses, I think a serious mistake. 0:19:06.097 --> 0:19:10.137 It is inconceivable that the burning of crosses would be 0:19:10.257 --> 0:19:13.937 permitted Amist College. So now I raise the question, why 0:19:14.137 --> 0:19:17.657 would it be legitimate for people come out in a 0:19:17.657 --> 0:19:22.017 mass meeting to say that the Jews have to be 0:19:22.097 --> 0:19:27.457 cleared out of the Palestine, not that the Palestinians are 0:19:27.457 --> 0:19:29.737 being ruled without their consent, because being ruled out with 0:19:29.857 --> 0:19:32.697 art that consent without three elections in Gaza and the 0:19:32.697 --> 0:19:36.737 Palestinian authority. It's that Israel's occupied because there are Jews 0:19:36.777 --> 0:19:39.897 living there. And so what we're telling you is we 0:19:39.977 --> 0:19:43.817 think that this savage killing of parents in front of 0:19:43.817 --> 0:19:46.697 their children, the beheading of bab, we think that is 0:19:46.697 --> 0:19:51.377 a justified move for the sake of clearing, of making 0:19:51.817 --> 0:19:55.817 Palestine uten free. I don't understand why that would be 0:19:55.857 --> 0:19:59.057 permitted any more than the burning of crosses on the canvas. 0:19:59.737 --> 0:20:02.657 Now on another day, we might say, look, even Justice 0:20:02.657 --> 0:20:06.657 Black greats of defender freedom, did not think it's legitimate 0:20:06.657 --> 0:20:09.657 to have a mass meeting outside of a court room, 0:20:10.257 --> 0:20:13.337 live the impression any decision there would be effected. A 0:20:13.337 --> 0:20:16.977 mass meeting is simply a mass meeting. A college can say, look, 0:20:17.697 --> 0:20:19.857 a mass meeting is simply a mass meeting. If you 0:20:19.897 --> 0:20:22.857 have an argument to make, let's get together and have 0:20:22.937 --> 0:20:25.537 a teaching as we used to have teachings, make an 0:20:25.657 --> 0:20:29.417 argument and confront people on the other side. It's it's 0:20:29.817 --> 0:20:31.697 it could be it's a moment where the colleges, the 0:20:31.737 --> 0:20:34.577 university is gonna have to face up to something and 0:20:34.617 --> 0:20:39.377 ask themselves just how serious is it to have a 0:20:39.497 --> 0:20:42.817 critical portion of the students really making the case for 0:20:42.897 --> 0:20:46.377 genocide on the campus. It would be inconceivable doing that 0:20:46.457 --> 0:20:49.777 about blacks. So what is getting in the way of 0:20:49.897 --> 0:20:51.057 their reasoning about this. 0:20:51.057 --> 0:20:53.417 Matter, Professor Arcus? 0:20:53.417 --> 0:20:57.377 Everybody where can folks go to follow more of the 0:20:57.377 --> 0:20:59.897 work that you're doing the James Wilson Institute. 0:21:00.577 --> 0:21:04.137