1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program hour one on this Tuesday, 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Dan and the Dan as Dan Patrick Show. We got 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: a busy show here. Jim Jackson, the Turner NBA analysts, 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: will join us. We'll talk about the Clippers at the 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: Sun's game two. Also Rex Chapman, former Kentucky guard, NBA guard, 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: longtime veteran. He'll join us coming up as well. And 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Jay billis on the Ever Changing NCAA eight seven seven 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: three DP show Email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com, 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Twitter handle at DP show. The Phoenix Suns point guard 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: Chris Paul ruled out for tonight's Game two Western Conference Finals. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Very little details here. Monty Williams, head coach of the Sun, 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: said yesterday there's no update. Nothing's changed here. We don't 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: even have an inkling of when he could come back. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Yahoo Sports is Chris Haynes reported that Paul is quarantining 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles isn't showing any symptoms after testing positive 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: for COVID nineteen. However, sources have told the Arizona Republic 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: that Paul has been experiencing a fever. But we don't 19 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: have much information other than Chris Paul won't be playing tonight. Also, 20 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard not playing tonight. Don't have any other details here, 21 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: and that doesn't seem promising at all. Chris Paul will 22 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: eventually come back and play for the Suns. I'm not 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: so sure about Kawhi Leonard. Play the Day, poll questions, 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: stat of the Day, and your input as well in 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: a variety of lays. You can dial us up each 26 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: seven seven three DP show email address DP at Dan 27 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at dp's show. The Raiders 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: defensive end Carl Nassa made history yesterday becoming the first 29 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: active NFL player to announce that he's gay. You remember 30 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: Missouri star Michael Sam. He came out in twenty fourteen. 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: He was drafted, he never made the Rams roster. Nassi 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: has played thirty eleven games for the Browns, Bucks and Raiders. 33 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,279 Speaker 1: He has over twenty career sacks. It's a landmark moment, 34 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it feels less momentous than 35 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Michael Sam's announcement, and I looked at that as a 36 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: sign of progress. Athletes and other sports have spoken openly 37 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: on the subject for years. The NFL once considered that 38 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: bastion for some sort of old school masculinity that wouldn't 39 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: accept gay players, and if that was true, those days 40 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: seem to be long gone. The entire sports world seems 41 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: to be focused on social progress, including football, and fortunately 42 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: Carl Nassa was ready to open up about it, and 43 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: we can only hope that he will inspire more young 44 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: football players, more young athletes, more young people to do 45 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: the sing mclubt you got a pull question for me today? Okay, 46 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: switch you over to basketball. Right If your favorite player 47 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: is going to play an Olympics, are you four or 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: against that? And I'll give you two questions specifically, if 49 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: you're a Nets fan, do you want Kevin Duranta playing 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: the Olympics and James Harden by the way, sorry both 51 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: of them. If it means James Harden gets in shape 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: to play in the Olympics and then he would be 53 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: in shape next season, then yes, I guess with Kevin 54 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: Durant as I'm going to trust Kevin Durant here that 55 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: he has been very cautious in coming back and he 56 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: was wonderful in the playoffs, and maybe this is his 57 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: last chance to play in the Olympics. So yeah, I'm 58 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: okay with Kevin Durant. I'm not as okay with James 59 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: Harden unless it means James Harden is going to be 60 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: in shape for next season to start, because I think 61 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: that that added or led to his problems in the 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: postseason with his hamstring that didn't go away, and the 63 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: same with Anthony Davis. Get in shape to start the 64 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: season and then you won't have to worry about, you know, 65 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: what happens later in the season or in the postseason. Yes, 66 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: next example, Ben Simmons could play for the Australian team. 67 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: If you're a six Ers fan, do you want him 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: playing overseas? Yes? Yeah. I want to see him get 69 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: some confidence that he'll be the star on the Australian 70 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: Olympic team, and I do think that he needs kind 71 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: of a jolt of confidence here. There was also a 72 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: report that came out something I've been saying since his 73 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: freshman year at LSU, that maybe Ben Simmons is toying 74 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: with the idea of shooting right handed. I know it 75 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: sounded crazy when I said it years ago, but he 76 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: looked uncomfortable shooting left handed and it's not getting better, 77 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: not getting better anytime soon. I did and this is 78 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: something that Lebron James maybe can help Ben Simmons With 79 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: Lebron James back in two thousand and seven against the 80 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs, admitted that he was uncomfortable taking big 81 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: shots outside shots and the San Antonio Spurs had a 82 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: great defense against him. Lebron taking his team to the 83 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: NBA Finals. They got swept, but he spoke about crediting 84 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: the Spurs with making him a better player. He said 85 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: that I just want to be able to not have 86 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: any weaknesses, you know, and allow a defense to dictate 87 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: what I do. Because of the Spurs in a lot 88 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: of my early years, they're part of the reason why 89 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: my jump shot is a lot better today. My first 90 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: finals appearance in OH seven, they went under on everything. 91 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: I didn't shoot the ball. I wasn't comfortable with shooting 92 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: the ball at that point in time in my career. 93 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: So I give a lot of thanks to their scheme, 94 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: a lot of thanks to a lot of other teams 95 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: that I went against. This is something that Ben Simmons 96 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: needs to embrace that we can go back. And I 97 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: was at that NBA Finals and Lebron was uncomfortable. They 98 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: wanted him to take jump shots there. Now, does Lebron 99 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: have better form than Ben Simmons, Yes, but he wasn't 100 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: a knockdown shooter. He was a scorer even at the 101 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: free throw line. Not a great free throw shooter, doesn't 102 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: have great form. But Lebron is more of a scorer. 103 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: Back then he was more of a facilitator, but he 104 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: also scored. Ben Simmons needs to embrace this that I 105 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: gotta go work like. This is what Lebron did. Lebron 106 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: didn't go you know, it's in my head. It's mental. 107 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: Now maybe it was, but Ben Simmons needs to embrace 108 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: this and say I got to go back into the 109 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: lab and I gotta work on this mentally and physically. 110 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: That's not easy. And the seventy six ers, you know, 111 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers said, hey, we got we got a plan 112 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: in place here. I don't know what that plan in 113 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: place is or who that shooting coach is, but there's 114 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: a lot of work to be done. He's only twenty three. 115 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: But it's not like you can change your shot that 116 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: you know overnight. This is going to be a gradual 117 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: I go back to Carl Malone. Carl Malone was a 118 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: terrible free throw shooter. When he got in the league, 119 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: maybe fifty eight percent, and later in his career I 120 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: think he shot upwards of upper seventies, low eighties. He 121 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: made himself a better free throw shooter. Andre Drummond, terrible 122 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: free throw shooter, made himself a better free throw shooter. 123 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: But you've got to be comfortable shooting the free throws 124 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: when there are important games being played. You can shoot 125 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: free throws. You can be practicing. You can make ten 126 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: out of ten, twenty out of twenty, game on the line, 127 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: what do you do? That's what Ben Simmons has to 128 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: work on his form and then the mental aspect of 129 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: I want to attack the rim. I want to get 130 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: fouled because right now he doesn't. Yeah. Seedon a side 131 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: poll question, if you're the Australian Olympic basketball team, do 132 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: you want Ben? Wow? Wow Wow? That's too soon? Too soon? 133 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Too soon? Maybe our two too soon? Yes pol So 134 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: In Sydney Sports Radio this morning, Jimmy and the Koala 135 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: are just like we cannot have Ben Simmons on the team. 136 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: They're breaking it back this We're gonna win with a 137 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: guy like that. This program brought you by simply Safe. 138 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: They've been making people feel safe at home for the 139 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: past fifteen years, who was simply safe. There's always someone 140 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: there who has your back, keep you safe. Go to 141 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: simply safetan dot com today, customize your system, get a 142 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: free security camera. Yes, mclevan Australia. It is reportedly stacked. 143 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: Oh they are. Patty Mills is going to done. They're 144 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: a metal hopeful, So this is actually a huge deal 145 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: of them. They're a good team out of nowhere. I 146 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: think he needs to feel good about his game. The 147 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: only thing I would worry about is is he going 148 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: to get back into that rut and he's going to 149 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: be afraid to take shots and then all of a 150 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: sudden that just kind of it keeps it going. Yeah, 151 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: and that's he sort of needs to break this cycle 152 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: someway somehow. I don't want him to go and have 153 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: it kind of reinforced in his mind. Yeah, McLeman. After 154 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: the Doc Rivers comments yesterday, I kind of felt like 155 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: the Sixers aren't going to trade him. Is that a 156 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: fair read? I wouldn't because I don't know what I'm 157 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna get for him, Like the market value is low. 158 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: Everybody thinks, wow, you could get Dame Lillard. No, like 159 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: why would Portland take Ben Simmons and give up Damian Lillard. 160 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: Just because Damian Lillard may want to get out like 161 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean we always look at one side of 162 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: a trade and you go, man, the Sixers they could 163 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: trade they could get Damian Lillard. Yeah, hell yeah, I'd 164 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: sign him for that right now if you said the 165 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: Sixers can get Dame Lillard for Ben Simmons. But that's 166 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: not going to happen. But I don't, you know, a 167 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: stock is so low right now that I think you've 168 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: got to try to prop him up. And at age 169 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: twenty three, you know, it's the same thing with Jannis. 170 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: Like for a guy who's considered, you know, maybe one 171 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: of the great players of all time, he's still a 172 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: liability at some time or some points in a game. 173 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: And you're not an all time great if you're also 174 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: a liability. Now you can say, well, Jack and Will Chamberlain, yes, 175 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: because they couldn't make free throws. But that didn't stop 176 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: Shack from being aggressive. Ben Simmon is not aggressive. Janis 177 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: at times can be tentative because he doesn't want to 178 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: go to the line. He shoots air balls. I think 179 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: he hit the shot clock on one of them like that. 180 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: That's almost impossible to do if you're one of the 181 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: greats of all time. But Ben Simmons at age twenty three, 182 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: you have, you have some traits that can make you 183 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: an All Star, but you're you're probably going to have 184 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: a glass ceiling where you're only going to get to 185 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: a certain level there and you're going to become a 186 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: liability because nobody's gonna need to guard you on the 187 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: perimeter and they're basically baiting you to go to the line. Yeah. Point, 188 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a good comparison with Lebron 189 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: James at the same stage and Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons 190 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: turns twenty five and three weeks and he's in he's 191 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: gonna he's going into a sixth year in the league. 192 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: In year five and Simmons is down to fourteen points 193 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: a game. He's regressing. Lebron in year five was everything, 194 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: thirty points, was league MVP. He had a flaw that 195 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: he maybe wasn't an alpha in the last thirty seconds 196 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: of games, but that was it. I mean, these guys 197 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: are not even in the vicinity of each other at 198 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: the same stage of their career. Yeah, But Lebron attacked it. Lebron, 199 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: he attacked a weakness. That's what Ben Simmons has to do. 200 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: Ben has to say, whatever it takes, I'm going to 201 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: be a good jump shooter, whatever that is. I'm gonna 202 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: be a good free throw shooter. That's what Lebron is saying. 203 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: That's what Ben Simmons needs to embrace. Don't say hey, 204 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: it's mental. Yeah, I'll give you another example for Yannis. 205 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: Karl Malone in his early twenties was terrible at the line, 206 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: then he got really good at the line and started 207 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: winning a ton of games. Could Jannis improve it the line? Like, 208 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: Karl Malone, is this microphone on? Or did you say that? Yeah? 209 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: Oh darn it. I was busy googling stats. My bad. Yeah. 210 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: I think he shot like fifty eight percent when he 211 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: first got in the league and then got close to eight. 212 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: It was floating around my subconscious that I couldn't figure. 213 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm hearing voices. There's somebody telling me something. No, 214 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: it's a great point, Carl Malone. Yeah, season This might 215 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: be a really dumb question, but I asked those what 216 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: exactly does a fellow like Ben Simmons work on all offseason. Hella, 217 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: if it's like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm a basketball player, 218 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: a professional basketball player, a high level professional basketball player, 219 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: and in the off season I can't shoot, but I'm 220 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: not gonna worry about that. I'm gonna work on all 221 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: this other stuff. Like what is he working on? Then? 222 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: Did he say he's working on other stuff? No? I 223 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: don't know. But clearly he must work out in the 224 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: off season. He must train, he must play, he must 225 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: do all this stuff at so right now, it's like, dang, 226 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: you know, I should get a handle on this shooting thing. Yeah, 227 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: what else are you doing? Is it just all like 228 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: conditioning drills or something? You ever pick up a ball? 229 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what he does in the off season. 230 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: It just seems crazy to me that it's like, hey, 231 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: you know what, we got a plan right now, we're 232 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna fix this shooting thing. What it's your whole job. 233 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: It's literally what you do for a living is take 234 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: this ball, put it in the basket. How is it 235 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: just joining on everybody now that we got to figure 236 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: this thing out for him? Yes, And like you said, Dan, 237 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: the past five years, you know, people like he's got 238 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: to get the gym and do a thousand shots today. 239 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: What has he been doing for the past five years? 240 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: All he does is practice shooting. That's all basketball players do. 241 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: He's been practicing incorrectly for the past five years. Yes, 242 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: like you said, if you if you teach someone a 243 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: bad shot, it's never going to get better. Yeah, because 244 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: I can practice my golf swing, but if I have 245 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: bad traits in my golf swing, all I do is 246 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: reinforce those You need to break the cycle here, and 247 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: they need to look at his shot and say, all right, 248 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: let's start here, and then you get into the mental 249 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: aspect to this that he needs to attack. He needs 250 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: to he needs to want to get to the line. 251 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't care if he can't shoot a three. I 252 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: need I need an eighteen footer, and I need you 253 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: to be able to shoot a free throw. You know 254 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: when they do the skills challenge and it's like he 255 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: passed the ball through the hoops and into the bucket 256 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: and a thing like is that his off season workout? 257 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: And I don't worry about this shooting thing. I don't No, 258 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: I don't know Ben Simmons, but if he does go 259 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: to his right hand, it's one of the great calls 260 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: of all time. Great, Yes, great call. Yeah, I don't 261 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: know that he's shooting with the right I said that, 262 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: and I remember going, god, do I say this on 263 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: the show because he looked like it was one of 264 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: those where you know, a guy will get injured and 265 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: then Larry Bird against Portland shot everything left handed, but 266 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: he chose to do that way. He looked like a 267 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: right handed guy shooting left handed. That's insane, by the way. Yes, 268 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: and he's still shot better than Ben Simmons does. But 269 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, this is where Ben's got a lot of 270 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: work to do. But he's young enough if he puts 271 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: in the time that this could change his career. But 272 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: you're paying him to be a superstar and he's not 273 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: a superstar. And I don't want to hear this. I 274 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: heard from somebody yesterday, former players like dude, man, he 275 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: gives you a fourteen eight and eight, and I go, so, 276 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: there's probably a few like you're paying forty mill million 277 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: dollars to give you fourteen eight and eight, but I 278 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: can't use him in the fourth quarter. No, thanks, Yeah, Paul, 279 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: If I'm the Sixers and he's actually right handed, I'm 280 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,119 Speaker 1: avoiding the contract. We signed you on a false pretensive. 281 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: We were clearly informed that you were left handed for 282 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: years consumer fraud. I want my money back. I'm also 283 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: firing everybody who's scouted him. If you didn't notice it 284 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: was the wrong hand. Yeah, all right, let me take 285 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: a break. Jay Billis will join us. Folks, you better 286 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: fasten your seat belts. With what's happening with the NCAA. 287 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to a twelve team playoff, probably voting 288 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: on that today. Also the name, image and likeness. Certain 289 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: states are going to allow that. What's that going to 290 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: mean for certain conferences? Football programs? What you can pay 291 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: not the school, but those around the school. You're gonna 292 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: be paying players. It's happening, and it's crashing down hard. 293 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: Jay Billis will join us, coming up to talk about that. 294 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: Seventeen after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick Show. 295 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: There's one bread and the pro athletes depend on to 296 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: help them recover and stay on top of their game. 297 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Level Select CBD Sports Creams and roll Ons. The leader 298 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: in CBD, Ricky Fowler uses Level Select CBD. 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Today, 322 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: we'll talk to Jay Billis here in a moment. The 323 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: NCAA's best argument for refusing to allow players to make 324 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: money has always been that fans supposedly want their college 325 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: athletes to be unpaid. Well, the ncia's business model would 326 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in America. This, 327 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: according to Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh. The ncia's business model. 328 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: He says, if you look did all of the restaurants 329 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: in a region, they can't come together to cut the 330 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: cook's wages on the theory that customers prefer to eat 331 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: food from low paid cooks. Law firms cannot conspire to 332 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: cabin lawyers salaries in the name of protecting legal services 333 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: out of quote love of the law. Hospitals cannot agree 334 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: to capt nurse's income in order to create a purer 335 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: form of helping the sick. News organizations cannot join forces 336 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: to curtail pay to reporters to preserve a tradition of 337 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: public minded journalism. Movie studios cannot collude to slash benefits 338 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: to camera crews to kindle a quote spirit of amateurism. 339 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: In Hollywood. Powerful words from Justice Cavanaugh. It's bringing Jay 340 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: billis ESPN's college basketball analyst Jay Walkers through yesterday. What 341 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: did it mean to you? What's it mean to the 342 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: sports world of the NCAA. Well, it was a profound 343 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: error in judgment on the part of the NCAA to 344 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: position of the Supreme Court to hear that case, because 345 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: the lower court ruling in the Ninth Circuit was actually 346 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: pretty good for the NC Double A and it preserved 347 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: amateurism and what the n Double A considers its right 348 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: to limit players compensation from schools and from third parties. 349 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: So that was that was the first thing that hit 350 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: me was how stupid and incompetent it was for the 351 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: NC Double A to take that step. But really, Dan, 352 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: what this was about was, you know, the Supreme Court 353 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 1: took this case because there was a circuit split among 354 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: federal courts with regard to how these cases were being decided. 355 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: And so what the NC Double A really lost was 356 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: its deference from the courts and the presumption that their 357 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: rules were were were pro competitive. And so now they're 358 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: gonna now every case they're going to have to go 359 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: through this rule what's called a rule of reason test, 360 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: which means they're going to have to show and prove 361 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: that there are there are pro competitive aspects to what 362 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: they're doing and not anti competitive. And like what you 363 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: just read from Justice Kavanaughs concurring opinion, it's going to 364 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: be really hard for them to do that. I don't 365 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: think they're going to be able to and so that 366 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: was a huge mistake they made. I think what this 367 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: does now is it opens the door for further litigation 368 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: that's not just going to be on laptide. It's not 369 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: gonna be about laptops and tutors and internships. It's going 370 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: to be about name, image and likeness, and it's going 371 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: to be about contracting with the university for pay. And 372 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: there's no I don't think there's any way that the 373 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: NCAA is going to prevail on these cases going forward. 374 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: And the only hope they have is going on both 375 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: knees to Congress and saying, please give us an antitrust exemption, 376 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: which you've given to no other multi billion dollar business 377 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: in the country. Please give it to us, because we've 378 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: proven that we can do this right. And I don't 379 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: think they're going to get that either. What if the 380 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: NCAA hired you as a lawyer and said, make a 381 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: case for us. What would you lead? Well, well I 382 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: would I would have said leave it alone. We we 383 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: won substantial parts of the case in the Ninth Circuit. 384 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: We lost a few few elements of it. But overall, 385 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: this was good. Overall, the abandoned ruling was good because 386 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: it continues to allow the nc double A to place 387 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: cartel restrictions on athletes like you just said that would 388 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: be allowed in no other business. The courts are still 389 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: allowing us to violate federal anti trust law, and we 390 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: are a serial federal anti trust law violator. So let's 391 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: let's take what we got and keep quiet and laying 392 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: the weeds and keep doing what we're doing. That's what 393 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: I would have told them. What if they hired you today, 394 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: I'd say, you're done. Now, it's over. Now you have 395 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: no shot that you did something so incompetent that you're 396 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: not going to be able to survive this now. So 397 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: now now you really have to turn your attention toward 398 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: Congress and really, Dan, So this is going to end 399 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: this ruling. The Alston ruling by the Supreme Court is 400 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: going to essentially stop the NCAA's name, image and likeness 401 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: legislation in its tracks. They're not going to pass anything 402 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: now now I said it back in October twenty nineteen, 403 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: They're not going to do anything. There's the NCAA is 404 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: going to say they're going to do it. They're not 405 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: going to do anything because they don't want to. I 406 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: think that was proven right. But now what they're what 407 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: they're going to do is that now they're going to say, 408 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: if we pass anything that's restrictive, we're going to be 409 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: right back in front of in front of a court 410 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 1: and we're going to lose. So they're probably just going 411 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: to say, all right, everybody can do what their state allows, 412 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: and they'll just beg Congress for a federal law that's 413 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: going to preempt all these state laws, give them one 414 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: national standard, and hopefully, from their perspective, give them the 415 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: continuing right to limit athletes in a way that the 416 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: Supreme Court just said, that Justice Kavana just said would 417 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: be illegal and any other business in America. So that's 418 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: now their their their stance is, let us do something 419 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: that the highest court in the land says is illegal 420 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: for any other business. Can you imagine being in that 421 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: position now and the incompetence of that decision making I 422 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: just cannot imagine. But I wonder with these states that 423 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: are going to have a head start with some of 424 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: the other states in recruiting. You know, Texas, now you 425 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: bring in recruits, you can pay them. Uh, you know 426 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: our school's going to have an image advisor on staff. 427 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: You know, how do you get paid off of this? 428 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: You have to do it legally. I don't know. It 429 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: just feels like some states are going to have a 430 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: little bit of an opportunity here where the other states 431 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: or not. Do you see that maybe? But so what 432 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: that's what competition looks like, Like we've got differing You know. 433 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: The funny part of this DAND is because we've had 434 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: this system for so long, people are going, well, how's 435 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: this going to work? What's going to happen? It's so complicated. 436 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: How are we going to do? Not that you're doing this, 437 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: but but that's you know, it's like breathless and we've 438 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: had drastic change on the revenue side since nineteen eighty four, 439 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: and nobody asks how it's going to work? Like nobody is, well, 440 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: how are we going to pay all our coaches? Like 441 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: do we pay all the coaches the same. What do 442 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: we give coach k the same as we give John Shire? Like, 443 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: what do we do? What do we do? You know, 444 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: it's really not that big of a deal and it'll 445 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: work just fine. We have differing tax laws in every state, 446 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: differing different state tax laws. So in Florida and Texas 447 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: and Nevada there's no state tax at all. And you 448 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: don't hear anybody saying, wait a minute, that's not fair. 449 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: That's not fair because now they can offer coaches more compensation. 450 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: They're all the best coaches. They're just going to coach 451 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: in states with no income tax. It's all fine. It 452 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: may be a factor, it's not that big of a deal. 453 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: And name, image and likeness. If one state differs from another, 454 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: it'll all work itself out. Other states may increase what 455 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: they allow, will be fine. We don't need a national 456 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: standard with regard to speed limits. We don't need it 457 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: with regard to taxation, and we don't need it with 458 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: regard to nativisual likeness. It is just the double as 459 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: saying the sky is falling. The sky is falling. We 460 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 1: have to be allowed to do this or it's going 461 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: to be a problem. But if you looked at it 462 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: on the revenue generation side like this, college sports have 463 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: changed incredibly in the last forty years since the last 464 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: time the double A was before the Supreme Court and 465 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: lost as an antitrust violating. But nobody's had a problem 466 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: with it, and the business has thrived, and it'll thrive now. 467 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: It is not that big of a deal that the 468 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: players are on the way to getting their civil right 469 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: to be treated just like everyone else, including every other student. 470 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: And one last thing, dam there are far more non 471 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: athlete students that get scholarships than athletes. So when we 472 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: start trying to shoehorn this whole thing into saying, well, 473 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: the scholarship is paid, well, then what is a scholarship 474 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: to a non athlete? And why aren't why aren't they 475 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: restricted in what they can earn or accept while they're 476 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: in school? You know, the only the only person that's 477 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: restricted in any way is an athlete. And I've happened 478 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: to think it's profoundly wrong and has been forever, And 479 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court just said it's profoundly wrong, and every 480 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: court in the land now has heard that. And the 481 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: NC DOABLEA is not going to get protection from the 482 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: courts anymore. That part of it is over, and it's 483 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: over because of their incompetence and the timing of this, 484 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: because the NCAA might be voting on that twelve team 485 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: playoff today, which is going to generate even more revenue. 486 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: And so I just that juxtaposition of you know, these 487 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: athletes saying, hey, can we get paid? Hey, hold off, guys, 488 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: we got we gotta vote on this twelve team playoff here. Funny, 489 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: how that's not too complicated. I mean remember when remember 490 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: when everybody said, well, we can't have a playoff because 491 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: of the bowl system, it's impossible, and they turned around, 492 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: did it made a billion dollars the first year? You know, 493 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: the revenue generations side. Nothing's too complicated. They can figure 494 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: it all out. And so now we're asking these ridiculously 495 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: stupid questions about, well, how are we going to pay everybody? 496 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: Do we pay everybody the same? How do we value it? 497 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: The school has value? Like if you if you applied 498 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: that to coaches what we say about players, you go, well, 499 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: how are we going to figure this out? Do we 500 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: pay all the coaches the same? Uh? You know, what 501 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: are we going to do? Do we pay the head 502 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: coach the same as an assistant coach. What about the 503 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: coach's secretary That works just as hard. We don't do that. 504 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: These schools know exactly whom to recruit and exactly whom 505 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: to put in the game when they want to win. 506 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: They know whom to pay in how much. It is 507 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: not this hard, and it's in the NCAA's interest to 508 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: make it seem complicated. It's not complicated. It's it's just 509 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: business and they'll figure it out just fine. You know, 510 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: we had we had conference realignment, and nobody stopped watching. 511 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: We have coach at When I played for Coach k 512 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: back in the ADC, he probably made fifty sixty thousand bucks. 513 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: He's making ten million now. Nobody stopped watching. We flew 514 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: commercial and rode on buses. They fly private. Now, nobody 515 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: stopped watching, and they're not going to stop watching. If 516 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: a player can do it, if Trevor Lawrence can do 517 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: a commercial, they're not going to stop watching. So you know, 518 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: this is all nonsense, and the Supreme Court called it 519 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: out as such. What happens next, Well, I think what 520 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: happens next is the NCAA puts the breaks on their name, 521 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: image and likeness legislation, and they basically just say, every 522 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: school can do now what their state law allows them 523 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: to do, and it won't run a foul of NCUBA 524 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: by laws. And they'll see what happens, and then they'll 525 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: go to Congress and they'll keep lobbying Congress to say, please, please, 526 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: please bail us out of this situation that we created 527 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: and give us rules, even though we say we're just 528 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: like you and we're a representative government, pass a law 529 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: so that we don't have to do anything anymore. And 530 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be really hard for Congress 531 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: to give them a stay harbor in anti trust law 532 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: when the Supreme Court just said, no, you're a multi 533 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: billion dollar business. You know what the rest of us 534 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: have to do. We have to navigate our business lives 535 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: without violating federal anti trust law. We don't. We don't 536 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: get Congress telling us, no, go ahead, you can do that. 537 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: None of our media companies don't have to do. It's 538 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 1: amazing how we do that. It's amazing how you and 539 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: I can get paid and our companies don't have to 540 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: go to Congress and say, please, please give us a 541 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: state a law that that gives us safe harbor for 542 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: all this, I don't think the NC double A is 543 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: going to get that. They're asking for extraordinary relief here. 544 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: They may get a law that that you know, sort 545 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: of allows the same thing for every state, but it's 546 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: going to be way more than the NC double A wants. 547 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: And uh and I'm just I'm flabbergasted that of the 548 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: incompetence of NC double A leadership that they drove us 549 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: into this ditch intentionally, uh and through in action all 550 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: these years and didn't change while they were while they 551 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: we're changing the game themselves, they didn't change the game 552 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: in this area knowing that it was going to be 553 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: a problem. And uh and I'm I just I'm still 554 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: my jaws on the floor. And how stupid NCAA leadership 555 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: has a been. If we created a sports Supreme Court, 556 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: are you willing to be justice? Do I get a 557 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: cool robe? Yes? I'll give you a rope? Yeah, man, 558 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: I would. I would be happy to be chief Justice. 559 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jay. We appreciate you time as always, always 560 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: a pleasure to talk about legal issues with. Again, what's 561 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: better than a good Supreme Court opinion? Yeah, generate a 562 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: lot of discussions. Yes, thank you Jay. That's Jay billis 563 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: from the Mother's Ship college basketball analyst. Yes, Polly, he 564 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: called the na stupid five times. If you're scoring at home. Uh, 565 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: you know when when Justice Cavanaugh puts it out there 566 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: the way he did that, then we can all understand it. 567 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: You know that you you don't have this blanket for Hey, nurses, 568 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna cap this because you know, we need the 569 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: pure form of helping the sick. Or if you're going 570 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: to go to a restaurant, all the cooks are gonna 571 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: make the moat. You know they make the same here. Yes, 572 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: he could you imagine just sort of like railing on 573 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: this topic for thirty or forty years like Jay Bills 574 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: and then finally get to read. Yeah, yes, Jay was 575 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: a little vague. Notice he's saying the NCAA was incompetent. Yes, 576 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: my glove. I mean, not to rip Jay at all, 577 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: but he's flabbergass at the nca screw you up something 578 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: as he found college sports the last fifteen years. Yeah, 579 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: everybody rips the nca But didn't this start with Ed 580 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: O'Bannon's lawsuit. Yeah, I mean that was based off of 581 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: his image and likeness in a video game, and he 582 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: basically said that's me there, and I didn't get paid, 583 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 1: and the NCAA, instead of trying to rectify that remedy it, 584 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: We're like, so what, Yeah, poy, I'll tell you though, 585 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: my money is still be on the NSA long term 586 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: because that at Obannon lawsuit I think was twenty twelve 587 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: and they found a way to go another nine years 588 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: without paying. College athlete Johnny Manziel on the cover of 589 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: Time magazine. That's twenty twelve. The NSA is pretty good 590 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: at delay and kicking the can down the road. And 591 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: I'll bet on them. The NCAA can no longer avoid 592 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: sharing the billions in revenue. Just they can't now what 593 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: happens state by state? What happens that you want to 594 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: you want to hire Spencer Rattler in Oklahoma and a 595 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: car dealership says, I want you to be my spokesperson, 596 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: or Gatorade comes in. I mean, this is a guy 597 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: who's going to be probably a top five pick, maybe 598 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: number one overall quarterback at Oklahoma. You're gonna there's certain 599 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: players who are going to benefit. Yeah, I'm a club, 600 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: So what if somebody in a non n AL state 601 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: cuts a deal? Then are we going to be writing 602 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: court by July fifth, saying like, is he ta going 603 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: to do anything? If these guys, are they going to 604 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: come down on them? I have no idea, Like, I 605 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: don't know what the NCAA is capable of doing, trying 606 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: to do, willing to do, what Congress's role is going. 607 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: You know, universities, athletic departments, athletes, you can have a 608 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: marketer come on your campus. You can't have an agent 609 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: come on your campus. But if somebody from Gatorade wants 610 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: to sit down with you know, name a player in college, 611 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: if it's a basketball player, a football player, say hey, 612 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: I want I want you to endorse my product here 613 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: as long as you're paying taxes. I think that's what 614 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: the athletes are saying. What you know, we have two athletes, 615 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: Rex Chapman coming out of high school, was you know, 616 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: incredibly sought after. Jim Jackson who went to Ohio State, 617 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: incredibly sought after. I don't know what they could have gotten, 618 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: but and do I think they got something at least 619 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: offered somewhere. Sure now you don't have to hide it, yeah, mclvan. Yeah, 620 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: when did the shoe companies start They're acting with athletes now? Young, right, 621 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: they're already doing that. I think it's even it's not 622 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: illegal for Nike to reach out to amateur athletes, is it. 623 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: Don't they start a relationship like with George Raveling in 624 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,479 Speaker 1: eighth ninth grade. Well, that has happened where you try 625 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: to get them in the system and then you're you're 626 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: an Adidas school or Adidas guy. And then when you 627 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: go to college. You know a lot of those guys, 628 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: a lot of those players will go to an Adidas 629 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: school or a Nike school. There's a funneling system that 630 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: that goes on with that. It's been gone on going 631 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 1: on for years. I mean, players still get paid, they're 632 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: just not getting paid by the athletic department. It's not 633 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: it's not like a coach is saying here's money. Now. 634 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: You might have assistant coaches who are lined up, you know, 635 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: through a shoe company h third party. But if you 636 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: want to get paid, you can get paid. I remember 637 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: we had you know, there was testimony that there was 638 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: a conversation that was recorded at Kansas where the assistant 639 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: coach talked about Zion Williamson's parents and what they wanted. 640 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: So you're trying to tell me Zion was offered something 641 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: at Kansas but not at Duke that he all of 642 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: a sudden said, you know what, I'll just go to Duke. 643 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: He could have gone to Duke no matter what. Everybody 644 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: wanted Zion, but you can't go only Kansas offered him something, 645 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: not Duke. I think we're not that naive. Do I 646 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: think that he benefited he was underpaid. I mean, cam 647 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: Newton famously rejected Mississippi State. They reportedly offered what one 648 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand dollars and then he said thanks, 649 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going here, and then he went to Auburn. 650 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: Do we really think that he went to Auburn and went, 651 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna go to Auburn and I 652 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: don't need anything. Now he might have said, hey, I 653 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: just got paid by Mississippi State. I don't need to 654 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: get anything at Auburn. Here. The NCAA, you know, you 655 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: just stick your head in the sand. And it feels 656 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: like that's what the NCAA has done for decades. Just 657 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: wake me up when it's over. I mean, you pop 658 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: your head up when you're gonna make billions of dollars, 659 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: but you just stick your head in the sand when 660 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: it comes to athletes rights, and I mean, this is 661 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: gonna be a watershed moment. It just is. It was 662 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: bound to happen, then it's going to happen. And instead 663 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: of trying to go hand in hand with the athletes, 664 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 1: you were fighting them every step of the way. And 665 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden you go all the way 666 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court and you're thinking, hey, come on, guys, 667 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,959 Speaker 1: help us out here. Nope, Now what do you have play? 668 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: The Day's up next? Back after this. Thanks for listening 669 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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This starts immediately 702 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: July first, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, New Mexico, and Texas 703 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: July twenty third, Arizona January first, Arkansas, Tennessee, Nevada July first, 704 00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:00,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, South Carolina, Michigan December thirty first, twenty 705 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: twenty two, California January first, twenty twenty three, also Colorado 706 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: at the same time, then followed by Montana and Maryland 707 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, New Jersey. That's where we are right 708 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: now with name, image and likeness. Twenty twenty five is 709 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 1: laten to the game. That's not good for Rutgers football. There, 710 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: poor Rutgers foot. Rutgers should have been able to start 711 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: this two years here. Yeah, Angelo and Alaska joins us. Angelo, 712 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: welcome to the program. Hey, quick confession there, Dan, I 713 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: actually moved to Minnesota. But Angelo and Alaska just sounds 714 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: cool it Okay. I have a solution for the NCAA 715 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: paying players. I work in a warehouse slash beer delivery facility, 716 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: and when we work in the warehouse, we get one pay. 717 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: When we drive, we get another. So my solution is 718 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: just breakdown conference by conference per game, and let's say 719 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy Lipper, you gets called to play Alabama, Well, for 720 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: that one game, you get paid the same as an 721 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: Alabama player, and by doing so, you have a set 722 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: amount Lesser players get paid lesser for their talents, and 723 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: when they do get called up with the big boys, 724 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: they make a better paycheck. I'll hang up and let's 725 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: all right, thank you. All right, that's hey. At least 726 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: we're offering up solutions here. But the NCAA is not 727 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: going to be paying the players. They're going to allow 728 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: the players to be paid. I mean, the NCAA doesn't 729 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 1: want this to happen, but it just feels like it's 730 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: going to happen. Paul and Iowa. Hi, Paul, welcome back. 731 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: Hey Dan, So I got a question about how this 732 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: affects eligibility. So, if you're allowed to pay players, what's 733 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: to stop a university from saying, to you know, a 734 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: basketball player, Hey, you don't have a lot of pro prospects. 735 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: Why don't you stay here for another for you on 736 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: our dimes? Well, no, you only have certain You can't 737 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 1: play eight years. I mean I tried, but it doesn't 738 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: work that way, you still get four years of eligibility, 739 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: but you might try to convince somebody to stay a 740 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: year longer with eligibility instead of going to the NCAA 741 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 1: or the NBA. But I mean, this is all new 742 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: here on what you can offer. Who's going to be offering. 743 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: Who's all benefiting from this? Not everybody will. You'll still 744 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: get your scholarship, but there's going to be marketing. Imagine 745 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: what Trevor Lawrence would have been worth on the open 746 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: market millions, Johnny Manzel millions. But it's all above board. Yeah, 747 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: I'm a club. That caller is a great point. Maybe 748 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: more players will stay that extra year because most of 749 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 1: the draft is juniors. So maybe you could help college 750 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: sports in a way. Depends on how much money you're 751 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: getting that you know, you find a lot of these 752 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: players who decide to stay an extra year. You know, 753 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 1: Steph Curry famously stayed an extra year because he wanted 754 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: to work on being a point guard. I don't know 755 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: if you're gonna have players who say, hey, I can 756 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: get paid and you know, I can also kind of 757 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: refine my game. Maybe, but it's this is it's just 758 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: the wa wild West here. But it's it's been building 759 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: towards this for a long time, but the NC double 760 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: A refused to kind of extend an olive branch to say, 761 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: let's figure this out together. The NC double A has 762 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, they're a cartel, a monopoly. They're hoarders. They collect, 763 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: they don't give out. Did we settle on a poll 764 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: question in the club? So, Paul, is a great question. 765 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 1: If you could have one of these implemented immediately, college start, 766 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: colleges start paying athletes, or college football expanse to a 767 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: twelve team playoff? Which one is a fan? Would you 768 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: want I take the twelve team playoff? I don't care 769 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: if you get paid or not exactly like good if 770 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: you get paid, If you know, Spencer Rattler at Oklahoma 771 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: gets you a million dollars, I don't care. Is Oklhoma 772 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: any good? And they're gonna make the twelve team playoff? 773 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: That's what I would be curious about. But hey, look, 774 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: free market. If somebody wants to pay you and you 775 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: still want to play college football, then great. What about 776 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: the last one hundred ten years where that wasn't the case. Yeah, 777 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: I know, I know, even a one and done in 778 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: basketball I'd rather have Zion Williamson for one year than 779 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 1: he went right to the NBA. We got to see 780 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: him thirty nights National TV. Rex Chapman, former Kentucky Star, 781 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,479 Speaker 1: will join us coming up close out the first hour 782 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: with Simply Safe Home Security. It's award winning security home security, 783 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: the best you're gonna find. 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