1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by All Copy Products, proud partner 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Allcopyproducts dot com. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: To the fifteen of the ten, Murray's Gonna score touchdown. 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: Swam to the ground by Budda Baker like a torpedo. 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 3: He came flying into. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: The backfield Connor to the ten, to the five and 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: then of the end zone for the touchdown. 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report is brought to you by 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals dot com slash podcast. 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: Here we go, one hand to catch it a touchdown? 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 4: Oh baby, I'll mad Phil. 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Grioloud, Paul Calvic and nine year NFL veteran 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson. 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 5: So, in case anyone has not already noticed, we are 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 5: in the month of March. It is March fourth, February 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 5: just basically flew by. But we are on that point 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 5: the NFL offseason, the scouting combine has finished. Free agency 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 5: is next week, and yeah, things will begin to pick up. 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 5: And with that said, before we dive into today's Cardinals 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 5: Red Superport, any announcements from either of the two of 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 5: you before we begin, because apparently that's the thing to 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 5: do nowadays on radio, is to make big time announcements. 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 5: So before we get to one, anything from either of 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 5: you regarding your futures, that's. 26 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 6: A good question. 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 7: Rob will defer to you anything pressing, anything noteworthy, newsworthy, 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 7: you know, your personal life, or otherwise you'd like to 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 7: make public. 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 6: You know. The only thing I want to say is congratulations, Paul, 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 6: you finally did it. You know, I hope you're proud 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 6: of yourself. What is it? What is it? You've finally 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 6: ran Wolf off? I mean, yeah, you're you're you're insipid 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 6: little jokes and making fun of Wolf and he finally 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 6: had enough. He had enough. 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, well we're you know. So when the Cardinals stepped 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 7: in and hosted the playoff game Rams Vikings and I 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 7: was volunteering out there, this guy made a bee line 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 7: for me. I told this story I think on Cardinals 40 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 7: Underground and like middle aged guy, big dude like you, 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 7: and he's coming my way. I'm like, whoa wait a minute, 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 7: this guy's coming in hot friend or foe here. And 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 7: he came up to me and his finger pointed almost 44 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 7: in my chest. He said, you know, what Polly pencil neck? 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 7: You deserve to get punched? How do you not get punched? 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 7: All the ribbing and razzing you give? Ron Wolfe, I'm. 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 6: Like, do you listen? 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 7: Do you do you hear the verbal beatdown that I 49 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 7: take in return? 50 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 6: Are you? 51 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 7: I'm just defending myself. 52 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 6: Round here, Valley Valley Icon, Paul, he ran them off. 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 6: That's right. 54 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 7: You know what it was? You know what the Solbery 55 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 7: moment for Wolf was? It was the Carolina road trip 56 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 7: on a Saturday at three in the afternoon in a 57 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 7: nearly empty suburban Applebee's. Me and Wolf's sitting there on 58 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 7: a Saturday, and Wolf's like, you know what, life has 59 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 7: to get a lot better than hanging out on a 60 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 7: Saturday with CALVC in a metro Charlotte Applebee's. And that 61 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 7: probably was the moment that did it. 62 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, nobody wants to go to Applebe's alone a couple's retreating. 63 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 7: No, it wasn't Applebee's. It was the company he was 64 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 7: keeping during the holiday season on a Saturday when there's 65 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 7: an infinite number of other things he could do. 66 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 6: So there's the patch factor. 67 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 5: Is there now a pall factor as well? 68 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 7: I already feel I'm already an abject denial. Enough about 69 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 7: the news, all right, guys, please don't drive it home 70 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 7: even more. 71 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 5: All right, this is what was announced on Friday. I'm 72 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 5: sure many have seen it, but how about we hear 73 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 5: it from the man himself on his own radio show, 74 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 5: Wolf and Luke Ron Wolfley putting it into a twenty 75 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 5: year Cardinals career on the radio. 76 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 8: It is with a thankful and grateful heart, I'd like 77 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 8: to announce I'm stepping down as the Arizona Cardinals radio analyst. 78 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 8: I would like to thank my wife, Stephanie, the Warrior Queen, 79 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 8: my kids, Savannah and Vetter, and my football family for 80 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 8: all of the support I have received throughout the years. 81 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 8: I'd like to thank Michael Bidwell and the Bidwell family 82 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 8: for twenty seven incredible years within the organization as a 83 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 8: player and a broad in almost three decades. My time 84 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 8: with the organization was filled with love, respect, and professionalism. 85 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 8: I come from a football family. God use football in 86 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 8: my life and I'm so grateful to him for allowing 87 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 8: me to strap on the boots and bloody up the knuckles. 88 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 8: But it's time to slow down, be a father, be 89 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 8: present with my kids, and serve my God and my 90 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 8: family better. 91 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 5: Ten years as a player, twenty years on the radio. 92 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 5: Tip the cap to Ron Wolfley. Selfishly, I think I 93 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 5: speak for a lot of people. That sucks. This fucks now. 94 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 5: Second reaction, congratulations to wolf because you cannot argue who 95 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 5: he is as a person and as a family man 96 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 5: and putting family ahead of football, which is very rare 97 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 5: for a lot of people to do when you have 98 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 5: a passion for what you do for a living. So, yes, 99 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 5: we are going to miss Ron Wolfley. Big shoes to fill, 100 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 5: but it is certainly going to be different on Sundays 101 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 5: listening today, Pash and whoever it might be. 102 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 6: You know, and hats off. Congratulations to wolf just an 103 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 6: amazing career as a broadcaster and a player, but as 104 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 6: a broadcaster to to step away and to want to 105 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 6: spend more time with his family and his kids and 106 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 6: to see them as they grow. For me, that's that's awesome. 107 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 6: I have three kids, they're all adults now, and I 108 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 6: can tell you that it goes by in a blink, 109 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 6: I mean an absolute snap of the fingers, and they're 110 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 6: out of high school, into college, out of college and 111 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 6: they want, you know, relatively little to do with you 112 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 6: other unless it involves money. But you know, so, you know, 113 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 6: for for wolf to at this time in the stage 114 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 6: in his life to want to spend that quality time 115 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 6: with the family, to me, that's awesome. Good for him. 116 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 7: You know, I'm found a saying about Larry Fitzgerald, he's 117 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 7: on a first name basis with the state of Arizona. Well, 118 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 7: the name Wolf isn't far behind, especially among the Red 119 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 7: Sea and bird Gang day pass said her. Really, well, 120 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 7: he's iconic, he really is. And for all those folks 121 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 7: who think Wolfe is just a big bagg of bluster, 122 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 7: you have no idea how much work he put into 123 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 7: his craft, how prepped up he was for every single game. 124 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 7: All you had to do is listen to our pregame 125 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 7: radio segment where Passion Wolf would join us. You know, 126 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 7: about ninety minutes before kickoff, he had all these stats 127 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 7: in this analysis in front of him. You know, he 128 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 7: really took his job seriously. But he knew enough that 129 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 7: sports is entertainment. So although the substance was there, the 130 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 7: content was there. It was legit analysis. He was very entertaining. 131 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 7: People don't come to football, they don't come to sports 132 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 7: for some sort of lecture. They want to be they 133 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 7: want to be entertained. It's their escape for three hours 134 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 7: on a Sunday, and Wolf added to that entertainment to 135 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 7: the point where I've said, last decade, I'm still shocked 136 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 7: and networks didn't come after Passion Wolf. I heard every 137 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 7: single moment of every single broadcast in the twenty years 138 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 7: those two guys were together. I can't think of many 139 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 7: combos who do it better. And if they are, they're 140 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 7: getting paid like eight figures a year at a network, 141 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 7: at broadcast station. 142 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 6: And I know a lot of people who watch Cardinal 143 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 6: games and listen to Passion Wolf. They turn the volume 144 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 6: down under TV and they listen to Wolf on the radio. 145 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 6: He's that good and he's sorely going to be messed. 146 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 5: And you just go back to preseason football when NFL Network, Yes, 147 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 5: Air's Cardinals preseason games, and that's where you have and 148 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 5: Al Michaels making sure that he pops into the radio 149 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 5: booth to say hello to Wolf. Mina Kime's huge fan 150 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: of Ron Wolfle because to your point, Paul, it's a 151 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 5: different sound and it is a different broadcast because the 152 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 5: passion and the love comes out. He makes it entertaining, 153 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 5: but not scripted, not overly complicated, and just the love 154 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 5: that he has for the hometown team, the team that 155 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 5: he played for, comes out when something goes right and 156 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: certainly when something goes wrong. 157 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 7: The fact that he can actually channel the physicality and 158 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 7: brutality of the game through his own broadcast. He can 159 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 7: actually make it palpable, make it visceral, and you can 160 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 7: do that over the airwaves with no visuals. That's a 161 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 7: true talent, it really is. And we always say players, 162 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 7: no players, You're right, Craig, broadcasters, no broadcasters. And when 163 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 7: we would go on the road and those other network 164 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 7: broadcasters would always make a bee line for Ron Wolfley. 165 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 7: Now pass obviously is a national caliber and so he 166 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 7: has a lot of relations, but there is always this 167 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 7: affinity for wolf And again when he would go viral 168 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 7: in those NFL network pregame, you know, preseason telecast. That's 169 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 7: the other reason I was shocked that suits, you know, 170 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 7: decision makers of the networks didn't notice just how the 171 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 7: fans gravitated to him and the waves he would make. 172 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 7: And he's got a lot, a lot to be proud 173 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 7: of and what he's done over the last two decades. 174 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 5: I mentioned free agency begins next week. Well, now, all 175 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 5: of a sudden, there is a huge hole not only 176 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 5: on the field several different positions, but now off the 177 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 5: field as well for this Arizona Cardinals team. Anxious to 178 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 5: see what happens now in that radio booth alongside Dave 179 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 5: Pash and you Paul on the sideline, who becomes that 180 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 5: third voice that we will hear beginning in August for 181 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,239 Speaker 5: preseason games and then obviously the regular season in September. 182 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 7: And I have no idea, I really don't, as I 183 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 7: still haven't processed the news that Wolf won't be there 184 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 7: next season. So you know what, Jim Omahundro day of Pash, 185 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 7: Cody Fincher, you guys better figure it out, all right. 186 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 7: I mean Tuesday is the most productive day of the week. 187 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 7: You guys better get on it. You've got a big 188 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 7: free agent slot to fill your own selves this offseason. Yeah, 189 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 7: no time like the president. Make sure you get on 190 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 7: that right now. 191 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 5: Cody, we want an answer before the end of the 192 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 5: show here on the Cardinals Codyrenzy Report. 193 00:09:59,360 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 6: Hey Bird Game. 194 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 5: Be the first to see the Cardinals twenty twenty five 195 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 5: schedule when it gets released in May. Visit Azycardinals dot 196 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 5: Com forward slash schedule from more opponents and more information. 197 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 5: Speaking of information, just back from a week stay in 198 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 5: Indianapolis for the scouting combine. Yes, plenty of talk about 199 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 5: what's ahead here in this draft class and when'd you 200 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 5: know it? Cardinals needs kind of match where the draft 201 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 5: is deepest at. So we'll talk about the line of scrimmage, 202 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 5: specifically the defensive line as we continue. It's a Cardinals 203 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 5: Red seab Report. We do it every Tuesday year round 204 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 5: here at eleven AM. Craig Reyelupaul Cowvec Rod Friderckson right 205 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 5: here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 206 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 4: I want us to be known as a very physical 207 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: defensive line, right a mindset just like we the baddest 208 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: more fools walking, point blank period, and nobody out physicals us. 209 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 9: You gotta be a me and that's ob that's what 210 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 9: it is. You know, it's just a man's game. Like 211 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 9: you know we're on that field. You gotta understand it's 212 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 9: people out there with kids and you know, wives and 213 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 9: mom they taken care of and family all type of stuff. 214 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 9: So when we're on that field, like I eat or 215 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 9: you eat, and I'm not going hungry today. 216 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 5: Those two sound bites, Laul Nichols, Justin Jones, those two 217 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 5: sound bites a year ago, or the sound bites of 218 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 5: the offseason, because the Cardinals added to a position that 219 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 5: we all thought they needed to add, and that was 220 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 5: the defensive line. So there was some excitement. Then you 221 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 5: go and drafted Darius Robinson, even more excitement about that 222 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 5: front seven. Unfortunately, rob we didn't see a whole heck 223 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 5: of a lot of Nichols, Jones and Robinson combined. Those 224 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: three played less than a full season, just fifteen games 225 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 5: they were on the field collectively. And now all of 226 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: a sudden, Okay, here we are one year later talking 227 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 5: about the defensive line. Yet again, Yes, Nichols will be back, 228 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 5: Jones will be back, Robinson will be back. Yet there 229 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 5: does seem to be more talk locally nationally about the 230 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 5: defensive line. Maybe that's a product of the postseason what 231 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 5: the Eagles did in the Super Bowl to the Kansas 232 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 5: City Chiefs, but the Cardinals certainly would be poised, whether 233 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 5: in free agency and or the draft, to add to 234 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 5: that room. 235 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember, roughly a year ago, we're all sitting 236 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 6: here just so excited about Nichols, and Jones, and then 237 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 6: after the draft Darius Robinson and what that defensive line 238 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 6: could potentially be going into the season, and you know, 239 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 6: things happen and guys get hurt, and and when you're healthy, 240 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 6: if you don't perform, you know you're gonna you're gonna 241 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 6: have situations where you're right back into it a year 242 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 6: later at the same position, looking to add guys that 243 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 6: can make this roster better. Because right now, the defensive 244 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 6: line in particular, and I include edge in that, that's 245 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 6: an area of massive need for this team to get better. 246 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 6: I think they've done. The Cardinals have done a really 247 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 6: good job with the defensive secondary, in particular the cornerback position. 248 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 6: Those guys are going to continue to grow and get better. 249 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 6: They've added some pieces through free agency in terms of 250 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 6: the linebacker position, and we'll talk about that later, but 251 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 6: it's really the defensive line when you're talking about defensively 252 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 6: where the Cardinals need to address it, and whether that 253 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 6: comes in free agency or the draft or both, that 254 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 6: needs to be the area of focus. 255 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 7: It is a good reminder of just how little ROI 256 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 7: the Cardinals got on those two free agents and their 257 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 7: first round pick and Darius Robinson, bad luck injuries, the 258 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 7: fact that they got nine games combined out of Justin Jones, 259 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 7: Bawall Nichols. It's a good reminder. Those guys are coming back, 260 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 7: and you would hope they come back with a vengeance, right. 261 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 7: You would hope they put together a really solid season 262 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 7: like LJ. Collier did coming off in early season ending 263 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 7: injury in twenty twenty three. Bod doesn't mean there isn't 264 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 7: room to add. Look what the Phildelphia Eagles just did. 265 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 7: They threw waves of defensive linemen at you. That's how 266 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 7: they ended up winning the Super Bowl. That defensive front 267 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 7: was deep, it was potent. And the fact that those 268 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 7: two guys are veterans in the second year of free 269 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 7: agent deals, guess what, there is room to add youth 270 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 7: and build for the future, build for the long term. 271 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 5: You go back to last week in Indianapolis at the 272 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 5: scouting combine, Monty Austin Fords asked about adding to the 273 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 5: quarterback room and his response was, Hey, everything is on 274 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 5: the table. He added, you can never have enough competition 275 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 5: at any spot. We never want to get to the 276 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 5: point where we're just handing jobs out end. Quote again, 277 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 5: that was asked in context of. 278 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 8: The quarterback room. 279 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 5: Yet to your point, Paul, all of a sudden, yeah, 280 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 5: you have these three pieces coming back, But I go 281 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 5: back to a conversation that you heard with Moni talking 282 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 5: with the draft class from what. 283 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 6: Two years ago. 284 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 5: Look, the general manager's job, regardless of how successful you 285 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 5: were the season prior, My job as GM is to 286 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 5: find someone that is better than you on the football field. 287 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 5: And maybe you can't find someone in every position, but 288 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 5: that's the goal of the front office, is to give 289 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 5: the coaching staff better talent year in and year out. 290 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 7: And as a recap, that's what he explained to the 291 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 7: twenty twenty three draft class. His first draft class as 292 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 7: general manager of the Arizona Cardinals was twenty four hours 293 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 7: after the season finale. And remember that draft class led 294 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 7: the NFL and rookie starts, rookie snaps, So there's a 295 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 7: lot of guys in there. Rob, you tell us after 296 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 7: your first year, right, you played the majority of the 297 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 7: Are you're feeling pretty good about yourself? 298 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 6: Right? 299 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 7: Pretty pretty good? I got a ten year career ahead 300 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 7: of me, and the GM got every single rookie in 301 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 7: there and told them, including Paris Johnson junior, my job 302 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 7: as the general manager of an NFL franchise is to 303 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 7: re place every one of you. Yeah, and you could 304 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 7: hear a pin drop because the reality of what a 305 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 7: business it truly is sort of hit those guys at 306 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 7: that moment and hopefully motivated them not only that offseason 307 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 7: but the rest of their career. 308 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 6: That is the most sobering ideal that players need to 309 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 6: get a hold of and understand as early as they 310 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 6: can in their career that every year, when free agency comes, 311 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 6: when the draft comes, they are trying to replace me. 312 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 6: They are actively trying to replace me. And that's that's 313 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 6: a hard concept for players to grasp. But once you do, 314 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 6: and once you understand that, you know what you have 315 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 6: to do in the off season. During the season, it 316 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 6: all comes down to playing right and what is your production? 317 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 6: What what do you bring to the table when you're 318 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 6: on the field, And you know, when you see the 319 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 6: team go out and draft high at your position, bring 320 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 6: in free agents at your position, that's a pretty good 321 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 6: indicator that you know what, uh, we're we're gonna make 322 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 6: this a little more difficult for you, okay, buddy, and 323 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 6: this this offseason and and you're gonna have to really 324 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 6: truly earn it. There is no no, I think, no 325 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 6: profession where meritocracy is higher up on on the on 326 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 6: the board in terms of what you do on the 327 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 6: field means everything. And if you can't do it on 328 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 6: the field, get ready, get ready. We're we're gonna, we're gonna. 329 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 6: We're gonna bring guys in that will get it done. 330 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 5: And we'll begin to see that starting as early as 331 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 5: this weekend and early next week with the startup free agency, 332 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 5: and then you go two more months or one month 333 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 5: late in April for the drafts and all the conversation 334 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 5: last week in Indianapolis was how deep the defensive line 335 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 5: prospects or Matt Miller ESPN Draft analyss joined us on 336 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 5: Cardinals Cover two. We asked them about that d line 337 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 5: draft class. 338 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 10: This is the deepest defensive line class I've ever evaluated. 339 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 10: I think I have thirty players that play edge or 340 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 10: defensive tackle in my top one twenty right now. So 341 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 10: it is there is that depth, and I think it's 342 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 10: a testament's like so many players were developed. It's fantastic 343 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 10: and it's so funny how this lines up because everyone 344 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 10: was down on this draft class and then the Eagles 345 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 10: go and beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl with 346 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 10: a great defensive line, and it's like, oh wait, this 347 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 10: draft exactly meets what's really in vogue right now, which 348 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 10: is running backs and the defensive line. And that's where 349 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 10: this draft is strongest. 350 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 5: And that's not just one man's opinion, that's the consensus. 351 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 5: Daniel Jeremiah earlier this offseason mentioned on Twitter that he 352 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 5: had starting potential starting grades on twelve defensive tackles a 353 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 5: year ago. Paul that number. He has now double twenty 354 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 5: four potential starting grades on defensive tackles in this draft 355 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 5: class alone. 356 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 7: And because of that, I could see several different scenarios 357 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 7: shaping up. If you're Maniassi work, could you stick and 358 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 7: pick at sixteen and take an edge or a defensive tackle. Absolutely. 359 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 7: At the same time, I could see them trading down 360 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 7: a little bit, get an extra pick in there, especially 361 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 7: since they have a half dozen and money's been used 362 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 7: to have in many more picks the last couple of years. 363 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 7: And because of that depth, take two bites of the 364 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 7: apple a little bit lower in this draft. I could 365 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 7: also see the Cardinals, for example, going with another position 366 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 7: at number sixteen. Oh, I don't know if Tyler Booker 367 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 7: falls Alabama. You go with the starting guard right there, 368 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 7: and then with number forty seven you address d liner 369 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 7: edge because it is so deep. So because of that, 370 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 7: I think he does truly have options if indeed you 371 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 7: want to get a starting caliber defensive lineman or edge player, 372 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 7: you know that could happen potentially at forty seven. Look 373 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 7: what the Rams did. They traded up to thirty five 374 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 7: and they got a standout performer in Braden Fisk. 375 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 5: Or you take care of it at sixteen and forty seven. 376 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 5: We know how important the line of scrimmage is, regardless 377 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 5: if it's the offensive line of the defensive line. It's 378 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 5: it's not the sexy pick. It's not that the pick 379 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 5: that is going to grab the headlines. Rob Yet again, 380 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 5: I keep going back to the Philadelphia Eagles. 381 00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 6: They did it. 382 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 5: They doubled up that cornerback, They double up on the 383 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 5: defensive line, and what do they do They are celebrating 384 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 5: a Super Bowl championship. 385 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just interesting to see how the pendulum swings 386 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 6: in the NFL. You know, running backs were so out 387 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 6: of vogue, so not something that you drafted high years ago. 388 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 6: It seems like just five or six years ago, and 389 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 6: now everyone's talking about running backs in the running game. 390 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 6: Defensive line that was that was out, you know, it 391 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 6: was it was all about the skill positions receivers and 392 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 6: tight ends and and getting those guys to really stretch 393 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 6: the field. Now it's it's defensive line. Look look what 394 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 6: the Eagles did to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl 395 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 6: only rushing four. They didn't have to bring extra pressure, 396 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 6: and look what they were able to do. So now 397 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 6: that's back in vogue, and it's just interesting to see 398 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 6: how the NFL works. And in terms of these things 399 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 6: like like Paul's bell bottoms, I guess they're back in 400 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: style now. You know, things just happen in fashion and 401 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 6: in football. It just it kind of swings. 402 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 5: That's two segments, two shots on Paul calvic. 403 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you know, really comes into vogue when 404 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 7: I combine it with my tight eye, you know, with 405 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 7: my Berkeley tight eye and the bell bottoms. I mean, 406 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 7: it just completes the look. Let's be honest. 407 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 5: I can report officially that that is not the look 408 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 5: we have in studio at the moment. 409 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 7: By the way, my guy who killed it at the combine, 410 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 7: thanks for asking, was the guard out of Georgia. Tate Ratledge, 411 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 7: not Rutledge, Ratledge six six three h eight. He ran 412 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 7: a sub five flat forty. He had the best vertical, 413 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 7: the best three cone and the killer mustache mullet combo. 414 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 7: If you saw him, Tate Ratledge, it is worth your 415 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 7: time if you google him up. 416 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 5: But did he make the NFL dot Com All Combine Team, 417 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 5: whether that was offense or defense, Because that's what we're 418 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 5: now getting rob is post combine. As those players who 419 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 5: helped them selves, maybe hurt themselves based off of workouts, 420 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 5: which is done in T shirts and shorts. 421 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 6: You know you can certainly help yourselves. And like Tate Ratledge, yeah, 422 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 6: you know that's a guy where you know you you 423 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 6: put up performance like that at the combine as a player, 424 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 6: that's gonna get a lot of teams to say, you 425 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 6: know what, let's look at this guy again. Let's let's 426 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 6: take a look at the tape. Let's take a look 427 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 6: at what he does on film. We hadn't maybe we 428 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 6: really didn't look at that guy. We didn't think he 429 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 6: was going to be what he is, but you know, 430 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 6: his combine performance is something to give you an extra look. Now, 431 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 6: the converse of that is if you go out there 432 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 6: and don't do drills, I'm gonna wait till my pro day. 433 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 6: You know, I'm just gonna do the physical. I'm not 434 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 6: gonna run the forty, not gonna do anything that. To 435 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 6: a lot of teams, that's that's an indication of you know, 436 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 6: come on, man, this is this is a competition. This 437 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 6: is the biggest job interview of your life. And you're 438 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 6: not showing up. That can be a negative mark on 439 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 6: some players. So you know, these players really need to 440 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 6: get good sound advice and when anyone's in my opinion, 441 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 6: if you're not a top first round caliber player, if 442 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 6: you're not going to be in the top half of 443 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 6: the first round, you need to be doing all the 444 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 6: d You need to be running all the all the 445 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 6: drills that they have for you, the forty, everything, bench 446 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 6: press and all of that because you want to perform 447 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 6: at the highest stage. Yeah. 448 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 7: Like Tate Raleich, Okay, I love the mustache mull at Combo, 449 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 7: but he said to be a really effective pulling guard 450 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 7: because he's so mobile, he's so athletic. Tell me the 451 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 7: Arizona Cardinals don't have an interest in pulling guards. Yeah, 452 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 7: and so I think that probably got their attention. Tell 453 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 7: me that James Pierce Junior out of Tennessee didn't help 454 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 7: himself running a four four seven a full second faster 455 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 7: than anybody else in the entire position group. Plus he 456 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 7: has the production unlike a Shamar Stewart of Texas A 457 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 7: and M. He's a two time first team All SEC 458 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 7: edge guy. James Pierce Junior, tell me he didn't help 459 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 7: his stock. Not only was he fast, but he was 460 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 7: really fluid in all the agility drills. 461 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, what you do on the field, how you interview, certainly, 462 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 5: whether that's informally or formally the top thirty visits that 463 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 5: we'll start here soon. But going back to the line 464 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 5: of scrimmage, and again, games are won or lost at 465 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage. Jonathan Gannon last week at the 466 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 5: Scouting Combine talked about the importance of the trenches. 467 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 11: You can go to my son's football game, who's in 468 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 11: third grade. You can go to a local high school. 469 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 11: You can look at the National championship and college you 470 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 11: can look at the Super Bowl and it's it's very clear. 471 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 11: It starts with the offense and defensive line. And if 472 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 11: you're that premier, it can end with the offense and 473 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 11: defensive line too, so it's about blocking and tackling. So 474 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 11: those two positions impact that before anybody does. It's not 475 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 11: hard to see when you watch football the team that 476 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 11: controls the line of scrimmage has a really good chance 477 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 11: to win the game. 478 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 5: And that's probably been the case since the game was invented. 479 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 5: Yet at the same time, rob it's the recency buias. 480 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 5: What do we see, what are teams that are successful 481 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 5: doing and this past season, especially in the postseason, we're 482 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 5: teams that were very, very good at the line of scrimmage. 483 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 6: You know, you can see in this draft, you can 484 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 6: you can foresee you know, there's gonna be a couple 485 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 6: of quarterbacks taken high, and then you can see just 486 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 6: a run of defensive linemen in tier defensive linemen, edge rushers, 487 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 6: and before you know it, a lot of these guys 488 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 6: that in any other draft would be top half of 489 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 6: the first round, they're they're falling into the second round. 490 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 6: You're gonna you're gonna see cornerbacks, You're gonna see uh 491 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 6: wide receivers that you know in a normal draft they 492 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 6: would be top top tier, top edge of the first round. 493 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 6: They're slipping into the second round. The defensive line and 494 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 6: edge is that deep that it's gonna shove a lot 495 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 6: of great players down into the latter half of the 496 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 6: first first round and the top half of the second round. 497 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 7: You know, JG talking about the importance of trench warfare 498 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 7: if you will. I mean, just look at the La 499 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 7: Rams right before they got Andrew Whitworth. They were atrocious. 500 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 7: Didn't matter as Sean McVay what he was downing up. 501 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 7: They didn't have a left tackle. With Andrew Whitworth solidified 502 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 7: that line, they went to a Super Bowl, they won 503 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 7: a Super Bowl, he retires, what happens? They win five games? 504 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 7: No line, no chance. In fact, the most disappointing news 505 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 7: of the offseason was the Rams actually retaining their left 506 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 7: tackle Alara Jackson, and they came to a three year 507 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 7: deal the other day for like sixty million dollars. That's 508 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 7: disappointing because I always enjoy Rams football a lot more 509 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 7: when they don't have a good offensive line. 510 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 5: You were hoping that Jackson would just find his way 511 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 5: to Arizona as the wish. 512 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 7: List, Yeah, anywhere except Sean McVay. So now he's got 513 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 7: his guy in that line is solid and so yeah, yeah. 514 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 5: A little bit more on the rams as we continue 515 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 5: here on the Cardinals Red Zieer Report. Up next, we 516 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 5: stay talking a little bit further away from the line 517 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 5: of scrimmage, but the linebackers inside outside linebackers for the 518 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals, that group as a whole, who's back, who's 519 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 5: perhaps going to be back? As we continue here on 520 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 5: the Cardinals Red Zeer Report. 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This 524 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 5: is the Arizona Cardinals radio network. 525 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 3: I was trying to get to the line quickly one 526 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 3: twenty in counting two receivers left, one right with one 527 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: point fifteen first down, snapped to Purdy straight Fropic in 528 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: trouble hit and the ball flutters far aside and Kizier 529 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: White with a diving interception to win the game head midfield. 530 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 3: Purdy got hit, the ball fluttered and Kaizier White pot 531 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 3: up to it, hold it in and the Cardinals are 532 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 3: gonna get one in San France. 533 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 8: Tap the pig into the air and Kaizer White comes 534 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 8: down with it. 535 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 3: It was Jalen Thompson that got Pressure Rock Party and 536 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: Kaisier White with the pick. 537 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 6: I'm getting the mohawk. Baby. 538 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 5: See, that's what we're going to miss about Wolf, because 539 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 5: I guarantee you the next Color analyst. So the Arizona 540 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 5: Cardinals on radio is not going to be getting a 541 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 5: mohawk if the Cardinals win in San Francisco in week five. 542 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 5: Just just a guess, Liss. Of course it's Rod Frederickson 543 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 5: on the radio call and I could certainly see you 544 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 5: in the mohawk. 545 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 6: The biggest challenge for whoever they get to replace Wolf 546 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 6: is going to be for the person to just be themselves. Yes, 547 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 6: don't try and be Wolf, because you know there's only one. 548 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 6: There's only one Wolf. 549 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 7: Even the head coach walked in on Monday when we 550 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 7: went to a Film is TV show and said Wolf, 551 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 7: don't do it, don't do it, and uh, Wolf did it. 552 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 7: You know he got some blowback guys like Dennis gardak, Wolf, 553 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 7: that's not a mohawk. And then you know I triggered 554 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 7: Wolf and they had a little debate about it as 555 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 7: to what constitutes the mohawks. So, you know, a for 556 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 7: effort put it that way, Yeah, one of one is 557 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 7: on woolf As we flash back two week five, Cardinals 558 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 7: beat the forty nine Ers in San Francisco twenty four 559 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 7: to twenty three. Kaizer White with the games ceiling interception. Cardinals, 560 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 7: if I remember correctly, had three takeaways in that game. 561 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 7: But as we talk about that linebacker group first, talking 562 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 7: about the inside linebackers, there's a big question mark now, 563 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 7: Rob with Kaizer's future based off social media, based off 564 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 7: what he has said, what his teammates have responded. 565 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 5: To what he has said. Is there a future here 566 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 5: in Arizona if there is great love to see Kaizer 567 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 5: come back? 568 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 6: If not? 569 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 5: Now all of a sudden, all right, who's that extension 570 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 5: of Nick rollis on the defensive side. Who's that coach 571 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 5: on the field. 572 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 6: Going to be? 573 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 5: And that's going to be one of those wouldn't say 574 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 5: maybe top questions, but one of those sneaky questions that 575 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 5: we might be asking ourselves all off season. 576 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 6: Long negotiating tactics. Right, you know the social media that 577 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 6: it plays a part, and you got to think that 578 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 6: the defensive coordinator naming his son after you're starting inside linebacker, 579 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 6: that might that might have some influence. I don't know 580 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 6: but a little bit. But uh, you know, obviously it's 581 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 6: gonna be interesting to see what happens with Kaiser White 582 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 6: because that's gonna kind of dictate where the Cardinals go 583 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 6: in terms of the inside linebacker position. And you know, 584 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 6: you might give him an opportunity, allow him to go 585 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 6: out and see what's out there. But certainly, I think 586 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 6: he's done enough and he's been such an important piece 587 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 6: not only in terms of his play and production, but 588 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 6: his leadership for this defense. That that's that's gonna be 589 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 6: somebody that the Cardinals want to bring back along with 590 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 6: Chris Barnes. You know, I think, you know, inside linebacker, 591 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 6: he provides really good depth and and he's a good player, 592 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 6: and he can he can certainly fill that role. And 593 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 6: then you know his own pupos ready, is is he 594 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 6: a guy that they kind of foresee as as being 595 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 6: a plug in there? And is he somebody that that 596 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 6: can contribute more? He started you started to see him 597 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 6: last year, So I like the inside linebacker position. Mac 598 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 6: Wilson obviously was a huge pick up for the Cardinals. 599 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 6: I think he's he's really done an amazing job in 600 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 6: his short time here. So from an inside linebacker position. 601 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 6: I like where we're at, and I'll just put an 602 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 6: asterisk next to it that, you know, if we bring 603 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 6: back because you're white. I really like this group. 604 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 5: Speaking Mac Wilson Senior, how about we flash back again 605 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 5: once again against the forty nine ers, but this time 606 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 5: at home Week eighteen. Postgame, Mac talking about how he 607 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 5: felt the defense performed in twenty twenty four. 608 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 12: We did a great job all year. You know, I 609 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 12: feel like we obviously gave up a few big plays 610 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 12: along the season that we wish we could have back. 611 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 12: But I honestly feel like we had a chance to 612 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 12: be a really good defense, to be a really legitimate 613 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 12: top ten, top five defense. You know, we take away 614 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 12: some of those miscues we had throughout the season, but 615 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 12: we definitely grew, you know, especially pass rush and rush 616 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 12: in the passing. 617 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 5: And certainly we saw a lot more of Mac rushing 618 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 5: the passer. I would expect to see that again and 619 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 5: Paul or maybe you see him based off of the 620 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 5: future or what happens with Kaiser White, Mac maybe becomes 621 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 5: more of that inside guy as opposed to moving around 622 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 5: or the other option is is Dea slides Aban Collins 623 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 5: back inside it's again there's a lot of moving parts 624 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 5: and where in March we don't playing a game until September. 625 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 5: But that's that linebacker position shuffling, whether you're an inside 626 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 5: guy or an outside guy. 627 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 7: I mean, Savan Collins played a little bit everywhere last year, 628 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 7: So could he come back off the ball inside backer? 629 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 7: I guess potentially. I hadn't really thought about that. Mac 630 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 7: Wilson Senior, unbelievable free agent signing Cardinals obviously saw things 631 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 7: on film where he's still had upside in his game. 632 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 7: He illustrated that his versatility, the ability to get after 633 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 7: the pass rusher. I think that was a big adjustment 634 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 7: Cardinals made mid season. They got a lot more production 635 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 7: affecting the quarterback. Once Mac Wilson Senior was more of 636 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 7: a constant off the edge. That was really effective. But 637 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 7: I think it's the low key big question of the offseason. 638 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 7: Who's going to be the quarter back of the defense? 639 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 7: Kaiser White the moment he walked in, Buddha Baker even 640 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 7: raving about how quickly you would get the calls out, 641 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 7: how much more sound just in terms of the football 642 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 7: IQ the defense was, you know, Kaizer White reading and 643 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 7: recognizing barking out adjustments and audibles immediately, so guys had 644 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 7: time to get in. They weren't always chasing. You know, 645 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 7: a team that's in motion or had different personnel packages 646 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 7: out there, you have to match wits with the offensive coordinator. 647 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 7: You're out there on the field, and so who is 648 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 7: that guy? Now, there are guys available and free agent 649 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 7: theoretically Nick Bolton out of Kansas City, and he is younger, 650 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 7: like age twenty five, Karzi, you're white at age twenty nine. 651 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 7: I don't think the Eagles are gonna let Zach Bond go. 652 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 7: But I mean here's a guy who's crazy versatile, played 653 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 7: more than one hundred and fifty snaps last year as 654 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 7: a defensive lineman and in the slot. So who else 655 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 7: runs a defense akin to that? Jonathan Gann and Nick 656 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 7: Ross where anyone could play anywhere at any time. Ernest 657 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 7: Jones is gonna be out there, big key to the 658 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 7: Seattle defense solidifying itself. So Dre Greenlaw, I mean there 659 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 7: are guys within the division you know really well who 660 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 7: potentially could be available. 661 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 5: Of course, you brought up one rob when that is 662 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 5: Chris Barnes, who if you bring back, could be one 663 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 5: of those guys that becomes the quarterback of the defense 664 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 5: or someone that we know is going to be back, 665 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 5: and that is Mac himself. He is that guy now 666 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 5: going into year two within this defense, maybe he's ready 667 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 5: to be that coach on the field. The head coach, 668 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon late in the season talked up Mac Wilson. 669 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 13: From what he's shown on tape through his career, I 670 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 13: really thought that we were going to be able to 671 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 13: utilize him in a cool way. And that's what Nick 672 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 13: and Sam have done, you know. And credit to him 673 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 13: for taking steps in his all around game. 674 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 11: The who he is. 675 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 13: As a person is exactly what I want our team 676 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 13: to be. So that's been really cool, you know what 677 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 13: I mean, Because this guy is all and he's a 678 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 13: pro winning behavior, one day at a time, process, tough 679 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 13: as nails, you know what I mean. So that was 680 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 13: a real really good addition. 681 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 7: You know what else is really cool to hear, and 682 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 7: he told us this on the Big Red Rage we 683 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 7: had him as a guest mid seas is that at 684 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 7: the very end of his free agent process, the Patriots 685 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 7: matched the Cardinals offer dollar for dollar, and he still 686 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 7: chose the Arizona Cardinals because he saw the upside. He 687 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 7: liked the fit, he liked where the Cardinals organization was heading, 688 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 7: and so that was good to hear. You know, maybe 689 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 7: more that happens here in free agency twenty twenty five. 690 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 5: And you'd like to see someone next to Mac Wilson Senior, 691 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 5: whether he is playing inside or outside, as far as 692 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 5: getting after the quarterback a little bit more on a 693 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 5: consistent basis. Robbie mentioned it earlier in the show, whether 694 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 5: that's the defensive line or the edge rusher, but that 695 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 5: linebacker group, can you do more to disrupt an opposing offense? 696 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, I think there was some good growth, 697 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 6: especially late in the season from guys like Xavier Thomas 698 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 6: and you know, obviously. 699 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 7: Baron Browning. 700 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 6: Baron Browning. Yeah, and what obviously what Mac Wilson brought. 701 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 6: But going back to the inside linebacker position, Paul he 702 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 6: brought it up, Zavin Collins. That's an interesting one, you know, 703 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 6: but it made me think last time he played inside 704 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 6: linebackers a different different defense, different defensive coordinator, and he's 705 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 6: been you know, kind of I think at that time 706 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 6: it was young, you know, he was a rookie. It 707 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 6: was new for him as a new position. And he 708 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 6: had a lot going on, and obviously the inside linebacker position, 709 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 6: middle linebacker, there's a lot that happens really fast, and 710 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 6: I think he was a little overwhelmed at times and 711 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 6: he wasn't able to just show his true athletic ability. Well, 712 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 6: I think he has some familiarity now in Nick Rowlis's defense, 713 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 6: and maybe that is a position where he could come back, 714 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 6: slide back and play there because you know, you look 715 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 6: at the combination of speed and size and strength. That's 716 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 6: I mean, if Xavin Collins can put the mental part 717 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 6: of it together and put it all together, that potentially 718 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 6: could be you know, a position for him where he 719 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 6: could be there for the next ten years. 720 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 7: And there's one aspect of his game that exceeds Kaiser 721 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 7: Whites and wouldn't that be pass coverage that speed. He's 722 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 7: better in coverage against running backs and tight ends, and 723 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 7: we saw that Nick ross a lot of times to 724 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 7: try and put Zavin matched up on that guy instead 725 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 7: of Kaizer White. That was probably the one drawbacker liability 726 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 7: in his game is when teams were able to get 727 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 7: Kaiser White downfield in coverage on a tight end or 728 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 7: a running back and Xavin Collins I mean, all you 729 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 7: have to do was watch the Dolphins game and there 730 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 7: he is downfield playing center field, running with Tyreek Hill. 731 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 7: You know that wasn't by design, but you know what, 732 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 7: he can do those sort. 733 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 5: Of things, and within this defense, we've seen Nick Rollis 734 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 5: change things up a little bit, give different looks to 735 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 5: where Okay, maybe you're instead of you're an inside or 736 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 5: an outside guy, you're just a linebacker. Because how many times, 737 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 5: Paul have we heard Zaven say, oh yeah, I'm playing 738 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 5: like half a dozen different positions. I'm being lined up 739 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 5: everywhere along that defensive front. 740 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 7: You know, quarterbacks that got to the point where they 741 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 7: break the huddle, they're like, where's Buddha? And then where's 742 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 7: twenty five? Because Xavin Collins could be interior, give it 743 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 7: off the ball, he'd be wide nine. He could be 744 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 7: anywhere and everywhere, and the Cardinals use that to their advantage. 745 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 7: But they were able to do that because he's so versatile. 746 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 7: Bird Gang learned more about Arizona Cardinals twenty twenty five 747 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 7: season tickets, premium seating, and the all new luxury field 748 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 7: seating experiences. Today for all Cardinals ticket information is at 749 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 7: azycardinals dot com. Forward slash tickets. That's Azycardinals dot Com 750 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 7: forward slash tickets. This is the Arizona Cardinals radio network. 751 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 14: The ball is spotted just shy at a four shot 752 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 14: up for Stafford. Motion man is hic Pete to the 753 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 14: near side. Stafford, Stafford deep in the pocket looking throws 754 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 14: its car to Stawn Hiy with two eagles surrounding. Of 755 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 14: these six yours in at the refs are an extra 756 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 14: point away from taking the league. Jack Vaughn, c J 757 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 14: Gardner Jumpson had the coverage any Splitzer. 758 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 5: So there was a moment this offseason where maybe for 759 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 5: a short period of time, there was rumblings Matthew Stafford 760 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 5: has thrown his final pass in a Los Angeles Rams uniform. 761 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 5: That pass right there, four yard touchdown toss to Tyler 762 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 5: Higbee against the Eagles. I an Eagle on wes Wood 763 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 5: won with a play by play, fortunately or unfortunately depending 764 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 5: on Cardinal fans how you want to see this. But 765 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford is remaining with the Rams restructure contract. Again, 766 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 5: this was always going to be about the money, but 767 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 5: which team was going to pay Stafford what he thought 768 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 5: he was worth. Was it going to be the Rams 769 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 5: or perhaps Paul. Was it going to be the Las 770 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 5: Vegas Raiders And that's oh, I don't know, meeting or hey, 771 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 5: chance meeting with the minority owner in Tom Brady. 772 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 7: So now the Raiders are left maybe, Oh, I don't 773 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 7: know Aaron Rodgers. I think we're all here for that. 774 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 7: Can Aaron Rodgers? Can Aaron Rodgers get along with Chip 775 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 7: Kelly his this new six million dollars a year offensive coordinator? 776 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 7: Can he get along with coach Double Rainbow? Can he 777 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 7: get along with Mark Davis? Can that work in Vegas? 778 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 7: Or are the Giants gonna come after him? And will 779 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 7: he stay in New York as because the Giants are 780 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 7: hurting for a quarterback that was the other team that 781 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 7: was in potentially and on Matthew Stafford because remember the 782 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 7: Giants as an assistant quarterbacks coach hired Stafford's brother in law, 783 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 7: So of course that was gonna happen. But yeah, that's look, 784 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 7: I guess they were just playing a game of chicken. 785 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 7: They were negotiating, you know, are you willing to leave 786 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 7: or you're not willing to leave? What is the number? 787 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 7: And so there you go. Sean McVay said he never 788 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 7: lost any sleep over it, not sure, I'm buying that. 789 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 5: It's very difficult to win if you don't have a quarterback. 790 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 5: I could never see myself not seeing the Rams without Stafford. 791 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,479 Speaker 5: If Stafford chose to keep playing, and obviously he does, 792 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 5: and it's going to remain with the Rams, well. 793 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 6: Let's be honest. Stafford should have gone to the Raiders, right, 794 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 6: They desperately needed a quarterback, and we desperately needed him 795 00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 6: out of the NSC West. And I got massive Aaron 796 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 6: Rodgers fatigue, I mean, just mass event get ready. Well, 797 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 6: I'm hearing that he might be leaning towards the Giants. 798 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 6: I don't know, stay in New York, but him in 799 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 6: Las Vegas. Ooh my goodness, I can't. I can't. 800 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 7: And there's no way Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll get 801 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 7: back together in Vegas, right, I mean, that's not gonna happen. 802 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 7: Here's the thing on Stafford, though, that I think was 803 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 7: really impressive, and Cardinals saw it, and you know, did 804 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 7: he put up the greatest stats last year? He just 805 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 7: plays a really winning brand of football. At this point, 806 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 7: it's really hard to get to him without him getting 807 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 7: rid of the ball, not knowing where his hots are. 808 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 7: It's impossible to truly confuse him. 809 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 6: Now. 810 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 7: He's off the mark with a few passes right in 811 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,959 Speaker 7: that week seventeen game. But he just plays a real 812 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 7: winning brand of football right now. 813 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 6: As a quarterback. 814 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 7: And look at how close they were to knocking off 815 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 7: the Eagles on the road, the eventual Super Bowl champion. 816 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, Stafford always seems to find a way, so he 817 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 5: remains in the NFC West. Who is not going to 818 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 5: be in the NFC West anymore, and that is former 819 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 5: forty nine Ers wide receiver Deebo Samuel, according to reports, 820 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 5: headed to the Washington Commanders for a fifth round pick. 821 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 5: This forty nine Ers wide receiver room could look quite different. 822 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 5: John Lynch said they are listening to offers for Brandon 823 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 5: Aiyuk as well. So all of a sudden, the forty 824 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 5: nine ers playmakers and you have an aging Christian McCaffrey. 825 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 5: It's it might be a different looking forty nine Ers 826 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 5: team that comes into State Farm Stadium. 827 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 6: Are they dumping salary for brock Perdy? I mean they 828 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 6: got they got to sign him, right, they have to 829 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 6: sign him. 830 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's true. 831 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 6: I mean I get why they did what they did 832 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 6: with Debo, but that's that's a player that he's got 833 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 6: a lot of football left, in my opinion, and it 834 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 6: kind of reminds me way back when when we parted. 835 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 6: Cardinals parted with an Kwon Bolden, I just you know, 836 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 6: and he went on and did great things with Baltimore. 837 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 6: But Deebo has got a lot of football left. And 838 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,919 Speaker 6: I think the forty nine he was heartbeat of that team. 839 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 6: He was like, really like what they were all about, 840 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 6: and I think they're really going to miss that. 841 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 7: And it was interesting the two teams that were after 842 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 7: him big time. Adam Peters, former assistant GM in the Niners, 843 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 7: obviously knows Deebo real well, and Demiko Ryans, head coach 844 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 7: now of Houston, knows him real well his days is 845 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 7: defensive coordinator with the Niners. So when guys who are 846 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 7: intimately familiar with the player really want that guy, I 847 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 7: think that's very telling. 848 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 5: Deebo had or has one year remaining on his contract, 849 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 5: so you have to make a decision if you're the 850 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,240 Speaker 5: forty nine Ers. And then for Deebo himself, he really 851 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,479 Speaker 5: hasn't been himself since his Pro Bowl All Pro year 852 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one. But if you're the Commanders, Paul, 853 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 5: and you've got a young quarterback and you're looking to 854 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 5: supplement the weapons around him for a fifth round pick, 855 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 5: hopefully again, new environment, new situation. Maybe maybe that spurs 856 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 5: Deebo to get into shape if you believe what was 857 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 5: being written out of San Francisco as far as he 858 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 5: was overweight this past season and now all of a 859 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 5: sudden this year, Debo, Okay, if I want to stay 860 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 5: in this league beyond twenty twenty five, this might be 861 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 5: a great opportunity with the young quarterback. 862 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 7: See and now the commanders have with the Niners do 863 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 7: not a rookie quarterback contract where they can operate, They 864 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 7: can add salary, they can go after a Deebo Samuel, 865 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 7: they can think they're going to trade for Miles Garrett, 866 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 7: which is the other buzz around the NFL right now 867 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,439 Speaker 7: that Washington is going to go all in, all out 868 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 7: to try and trade for Miles Garrett. The other thing 869 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 7: in the NFC West is DK Metcalf, You know, Craig 870 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 7: at the combine. A lot of trade rumors. DK Metcalf 871 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 7: could be headed to maybe Green Bay or the Raiders. 872 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 5: Nothing definitive, but again we're at that point, Rob right 873 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 5: now where a lot of stuff is going to be 874 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 5: thrown against the wall and we'll see what sticks. The 875 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 5: official league year doesn't begin until March twelfth. 876 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 6: A lot of speculation going on. This is the time. 877 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 6: The one thing we are certain of is no more 878 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 6: Ron wolf Ley on Cardinals broadcasts. 879 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 7: Well, and you know how much wolf you used to 880 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 7: love all the speculation about trades. And you know, I mean, 881 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 7: this is like his favorite time of the year. 882 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 6: Not exactly. 883 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 5: We bring it full circle here on the Cardinals Red 884 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 5: Seat Report. Once again we can congratulate Ron Woofully on 885 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 5: an outstanding career with the Arizona Cardinals. He'll still be 886 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 5: around though, we'll see him soon. This is the Arizona 887 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 5: Cardinals Radio Network. 888 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: You've been listening to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. 889 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 3: It is caught by McBride. 890 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 2: Hey, it's a touchdown boot a Baker with the sacked 891 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 2: strip the ball where he's gonna score touchdown. 892 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 4: Oh baby. 893 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report is brought to you by 894 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals mobile app visit Azycardinals dot com, slash app. 895 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 2: Touchdown Cardinals whim. 896 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: This has been an exclusive presentation of the Arizona Cardinals 897 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: football Club