1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: your host, Spencer new Hearth. This is Wired to Hunt's 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: rout Fresh Radio powered by First Light. I am your host, 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: Spencer new Hearth, and then this week we're talking about 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: rut hunting success stories. Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rout 7 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: Fresh Radio. This is episode four. I am Spencer new 8 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: Hearth and I am not joined by Mark Kenyon's week 9 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: because he is out on assignment filming something where he 10 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have great service. But instead I'm joined by fellow 11 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Wired Hunt contributor and Foundations host Tony Peterson. Now, an 12 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: update from last episode is when Mark and I had talked, 13 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: we had talked about the one week in November project 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: a little bit, and I had promised Mark that I 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: was gonna come home um and and record our next 16 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: episode of rout Fresh with two less buck tags in 17 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: my pocket. And that is what happened. I killed a 18 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: buck in Montana and in Wyoming UM and joining me 19 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: on that hunting and with the our crew of four 20 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: was Tony Peterson along with Mark and Clay Nucom and 21 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Tony did something similar. He filled two buck tags in 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Minnesota. Now we're gonna be kind of light 23 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: and vague on the details, because um, it's gonna be 24 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: real damn exciting when these shows come out on YouTube 25 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: and when a different Wired Hunt episode comes out where 26 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: we talk about this project. But for now, Tony, I 27 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: want to hear just about the rutting activity that you 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: saw in Wisconsin and Minnesota over the last week. What 29 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: were seeing for daytime movement, for mature buck movement, for 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: signmaking filming out, and what was happening in that Great 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: Lakes region man for the for the buck movement, it 32 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: was excellent, seeing lots of cruisers, lots of chasing. Uh, 33 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't see too many bucks laying down signed, 34 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: but I did see a few deer work scrapes and 35 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: and kind of hit him up when they were cruising through. 36 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: But just just for deer of all calibers covering ground, 37 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: it was real good. And when you killed that giant 38 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: buck on day one of our haunt, tell us about 39 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: that setup, why you were in that spot, and why 40 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: that buck was in that spot. I was in that 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: spot because it was sort of a centrally located hub 42 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: of three three kind of like wooded waterways to connect 43 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: huge blocks of timber, and so it was just, you know, 44 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: you look at it on aerial photography, you're like, man, 45 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: that's that's a place where deer should cruise. And we 46 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: just happened to have a really good wind for that 47 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: stand that a buddy and I hung the summer, and 48 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: that deer was I think actually think he had lost 49 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: the dope, but he was cruising the downwind side out 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: of a kind of a betting area and he was 51 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: just along the edge of a cornfield in the woods 52 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: in a way on one of those little travel routes 53 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: where they just you know they're going to go from 54 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: point A to B and they're gonna use cover, and 55 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: those those little wooded waterways they were the ticket. And 56 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: he was he came in hot and that's what he 57 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: was doing. He was just following that woodline. And I 58 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: think you said he was in July that you identified 59 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: the spot and you hung that tree stand. What was 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: about it in July that you saw that made you 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: think like, oh, this is gonna be the perfect spot 62 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: to be on November one. It actually started last year. 63 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: My buddy had some observations there and then I saw 64 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: really big dear kind of kind of corral a dough 65 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: in there, probably on like November five or six, and 66 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: so we've we spent some time talking about it in 67 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: spring and looking at it, and then went in this 68 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: summer because it was like, that's that's kind of a spot. 69 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: That's just a hub where bucks could come in from 70 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of different directions, but if they if they 71 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: used those waterways, they're gonna end up there. And so 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: it was, you know, it was it was partially EA 73 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: scouting and it was partially in season observation that that 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: put that spot together for us. All right, So that 75 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: giant eight pointer you killed was November one in Minnesota. 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about your hunting Wisconsin. I think it 77 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: was November five. You tagged another buck there. Tell us 78 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: about that set up and why you were there and 79 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: why that buck was there. That was a different setup. 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: That was a would it would it draw? Pretty big valley? 81 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: Actually that has a pond in the bottom, and I 82 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: knew there'd be some cruising in there, but I thought, 83 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, we we had that that blip a warm 84 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: weather where it was getting into the sixties that in 85 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: the afternoon, and so I was like, I know the 86 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: cruise here, there's a couple of pinch points around this pond, 87 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: but it's also one of the few water sources in 88 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: that area that I was in, And so I had 89 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: I had a bunch of stuff going for me, and 90 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, good cover as well, because you know, this 91 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: time of year, there's a lot of people out, a 92 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: lot of rusher you know, everybody wants to get their rut, 93 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: their rut hunt going, And so I was like, this 94 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: thing has a bunch of different stuff going for it. 95 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: You know, the same kind of deal went down and 96 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: hung that this summer in anticipation of this week, and 97 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: it just worked out really well. Yeah, And speaking of 98 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: hunting pressure, like, how do things differ for you, Tony 99 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: when you're hunting the rut on a piece of public 100 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: ground or a piece of private ground that has a 101 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: lot of shared permission versus sort of like a manicured 102 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: property that you tend to have all by yourself. How 103 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: how are your strategies different when you're hunting public land 104 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: this time of year. Um, you know, in my world, 105 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: whether I'm on private or public, you know, I'm never 106 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: the only one, and so you're you're always factoring that end, 107 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: but I kind of just go to, like, what do 108 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: I have real confidence in the deer doing? Like what 109 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: spots do I just believe in? And those are the 110 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: those are the places I might as long as the 111 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: conditions work for me, I might volume on them for 112 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: a couple of days. And you know, if you're on 113 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: public land, you've got a way bigger chance with somebody 114 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: coming in and you know, maybe messing up a party 115 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: your hunt. But you kind of learned like that's part 116 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: of the process. I mean, it happens on private land too, 117 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: So it's like scout for those spots where you're just like, 118 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: I believe in this spot and then let the deer 119 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: tell you whether you're making the right decision or not. 120 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: And I think the hard part, and I think we 121 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: saw this with our shoot, was that self doubt creeps 122 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: in if it doesn't work out. You know, if you 123 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: spend a whole day during the rut and it really 124 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: doesn't happen, it's super hard to stick with that. But 125 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: if you've done your homework and you and you've got 126 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in it, it's it just might 127 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: have been an off day, and you've got to give 128 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: us some real time, and I really don't think that 129 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: varies much between public and private, to be honest with you. Yeah, 130 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: and other perspectives you're gonna hear this week from about 131 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: the white Tail rout is from Dan Johnson from Sportsman's 132 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: Nation in Iowa, and then Mark hasm from Southeast white 133 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: Tail dot Com in South Carolina, and then Byron Horton 134 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: from The white Tail Experience in Ohio. And we end 135 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: with Sam Soul from Public Land Teas in North Dakota 136 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: and are reading materials for this week which you can 137 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: find in the description in the episode. Uh these articles 138 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: we have or why transitions are the perfect rot setups 139 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: by Alex Gilstrom. Alex goes over why hard transitions and 140 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: soft transitions are where you should focus your attention during 141 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: the rout and how to find these areas. And then 142 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: we have can You burn out a rut Stand? By 143 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: Dylan Tramp. Dylan covers the nuances of two types of 144 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: rout stands and locations you can burn out the locations 145 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: you can't burn out? And then we have how to 146 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: kill a pressured buck during the rut by you Tony Peterson. 147 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: Tony discusses how hunting pressured deer during the rout. It's 148 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: more about out thinking other hunters than is out thinking 149 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: the deer. And then finally we have what is the 150 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: White Tail Lockdown by Mark Kenyon. Mark looks at what 151 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: big buck killers and science say about the white Tail 152 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: lockdown and how those viewpoints differ. Now to see Tony's 153 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: episode where he kills that giant Minnesota eight pointer that 154 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: is going to be out in November sixteen, and we 155 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: are going to be dropping an episode a week for 156 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: every week after that, basically all the way through the 157 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: end of one. Uh, Tony, how how excited are you 158 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: to see that episode one? I can't wait, buddy, I 159 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: can't wait to see all of them. Yeah, yeah, I'm 160 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm stoked for episode one. And then you had some 161 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: other crazy encounters in those first four days. Um, and 162 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: then we end on a real high note. But more 163 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: on that later when we record a longer Wired Hunt episode. 164 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: But for now, let's get to the reports. Thank you, Tony, 165 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, all right, and joining us on the line 166 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: first is Dan Johnson from Sportsman's Nation in Iowa. Now, 167 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: Dan in Iowa, what would you say the buck activity 168 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten. Yeah, Spencer, 169 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: that's a that's a tough question to answer. I would 170 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: say on the area of the farm and the doge 171 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: group that I was hunting around, it was more for 172 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: this this week. It's been more in earlier, earlier, this 173 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: this last week, it would be more of a a 174 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: seven right as far as buck activity, but based off 175 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: trail cameras and sidings, even just a thousand yards to 176 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: the east on that property hunt, you know, hunting in 177 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: an area with a different doe group, I would say 178 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: more of a three or four. So if I was 179 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: a hunter, I wouldn't get too crazy worked up about 180 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: what's going on right now. You have to be in 181 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: the woods right now in order to figure that out 182 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: for yourself. Now, you just killed a slammer buck recently 183 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: that I think you said had almost a twenty four 184 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: inch spread. Tell us about that hunt. Tell us why 185 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: you were in that specific spot and why that buck 186 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: wanted to be there. Yeah. So, you know, a lot 187 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: of it had to do with historical information and how 188 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: the deer worked the terrain through you know, through through 189 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: that area, throughout the thirteen years that I've been hunting 190 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: that farm. Uh So, the first hunt was a was 191 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: an afternoon hunt, and on my way into that that hunt, 192 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: I are not that particular hunt. So that my success 193 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: this year was based off three different hunts, an afternoon, 194 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: a morning, and then an afternoon and um so I 195 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: checked trail cameras. On the way in, I got some 196 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: intel of where I you know, where this buck had 197 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: been in the previous week. And on my way out 198 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: the next morning, I checked two more trail cameras. I 199 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: got one more piece of intel for him. And what 200 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: I did was I kind of triangulated his position based 201 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: off the trail camera information and based off of the 202 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: the terrain features and and how these deer used these 203 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: terrain features. And then I had to use what was 204 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: given to me, you know, the wind direction, and I 205 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: just put myself in the best possible position, um in 206 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: a draw that kind of at the very bottom of 207 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: a draw that led up into a standing cornfield, and uh, 208 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: that's where that's where he showed up. How much stock 209 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: are you putting in trail cameras in the first two 210 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: weeks of November. I mean, if it is all this, 211 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: all the trail camera does is tell you that a 212 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: deer has been there, doesn't mean that they're there right now. 213 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: And as we all know, the rut is a time 214 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: of year where chaos, it's chaos in the woods and 215 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: anything can happen. But I feel that if the dog group, 216 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: the active dog group in the area stays on a routine, 217 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: these bucks will stay on some kind of routine as well, 218 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: until these dog groups start going into into heat. And 219 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: so I would say that trail camera intel helped me 220 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: out a lot because I was able to put a 221 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: point on a map where this buck had been in 222 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: the past five days, and then another point on a 223 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: map where he had been in the past five days, 224 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: and then I add that It's almost like an equation, 225 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: and I added all up together based off of um 226 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: past you know, history with dear, how dear move through 227 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: the terrain, and then I just I put together. I 228 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: just throw information into that equation and outspits the best 229 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: possible tree stand location for me. You mentioned that you 230 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: killed this buck hunting a draw that led up to 231 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: a cornfield. What is the crop harvest status for most 232 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: of Iowa right now? Well, it just depends on what 233 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: part of the state you live in. Man the area 234 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: that I hunt uh in the area that I live in. 235 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: There's still a lot of standing crops, especially on one 236 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: of my main farms that's closer to my home, there's still, 237 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, I would say over acres of standing corn 238 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: in the area, and it does make things really difficult 239 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: to try to to try to locate a deer, especially 240 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: when they're they're spending a lot of time in that corn. 241 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: Let's pretend that you're not tagged out, Dan, and you're 242 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: gonna be in a tree on November ten. What does 243 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: your ideal set up look like. My ideal set up, 244 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: it looks like wherever the deer at um. I wish 245 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: I could sit here and tell you that, hey, you 246 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: should be in a drainage or a pinch point, or 247 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: downwind of a betting area, or over a popular scrape, 248 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: or you know. You hear people talk about all the 249 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: great places that they need to be a good travel corridor. 250 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: But I think what a lot of people miss out 251 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: on is, yes, these places are great, but there's still 252 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: times where deer do not go there. They're not active 253 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: in these areas. So what I would do is I 254 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: would maybe put some boots on the ground, look for 255 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: some active sign um, look try to find where the 256 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: deer are at Maybe an observation sit is in your future, 257 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: maybe not, But get into the woods and just observe 258 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: and if deer aren't there, then you move to the 259 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: next terrain feature or betting area or UH or travel 260 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: corridor or whatever, and you just you you just keep 261 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: going through the cycle until you locate them. And then 262 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: once you locate them, then you can refine those those stands, 263 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: that placements and set ups um until you get close 264 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: enough for a shot hopefully going forward. Then this next 265 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: week or so, what do you think that buck activity 266 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: is going to be on a scale of one to 267 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: ten in Iowa? Yeah, man, we're we're coming up on 268 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: what some say is peak breeding, which is of November. Again, 269 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: it just depends on what the dough groups are like 270 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: in your area. Like I said, I got a I 271 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: got a dough group on this one farm that I hunt. 272 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: It is a it's a late October early November dough group. 273 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: And then the other dog group further to the east 274 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: is a is a mid October when they come into 275 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: or mid November when they come into heat. So I'm 276 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: just gonna go try to locate the dough groups and 277 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: typically at that point the dough groups are going to 278 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: indicate whether or not there's deer in the area. I'm 279 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: gonna check my trail cameras. I'm gonna cycle through tree 280 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: some of my favorite tree stam locations and hopefully run 281 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: into something. Dan, congrats again on that Amber buck. Thanks 282 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: for joining me. Thanks Spencer all right and joining us online. 283 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: Next is Mark Haslam from Southeast whitetail dot com in 284 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Now Mark in South Carolina. What would you 285 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: say the buck activity has been lately on a scale 286 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: of one to ten, Spencer, I would say the buck 287 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: activity has probably been um, right about a nine. We 288 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: had a nice coal front that came through last last week. 289 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: We're wrapping up, wrapping up right now, starting to warm 290 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: up a little bit um and right now bucks have 291 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: been chasing does. We're seeing bucks ten tender does and 292 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, lockdown with them in some thick in areas 293 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: and uh not wanting to really bump off of them. 294 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: So we're seeing some good, um, mature bucks palin doos 295 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: and uh, we're right, I think partly towards the end 296 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: of our peak, uh first round of breathing. So what 297 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: would you identify this phases the road as in South 298 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: Carolina going in I guess go on the second week 299 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: of November, this is we're wrapping up our our peak breeding. UM, 300 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: it should be. It should be closing out pretty soon. 301 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: And then towards the end of November going into December, 302 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: we should hit that second run with those where those 303 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: does that weren't bred the first time, she should go 304 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: back and into a second heat cycle. UM. A lot 305 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: of Georgia, South Carolina southeast has high deer densities and 306 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: in button those ratios that are a little out of wax. 307 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: So in some parts. UM, in a lot of South Carolina, 308 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: we've got more does than the box. So there's they 309 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: do not get bread during that first cycle. I know 310 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: this morning you rattled in a buck. Tell us about 311 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: that encounter and what you're calling strategies are in early 312 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: to mid November. I I'll do some grunt sequences, but 313 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: not really a whole lot of blind grunt calling. UM. 314 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: I started off this morning right daybreak and did did 315 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: a couple of sequences very very verish for very light 316 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: um uh, just rattling. I did hear two probably young 317 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: bucks spar sparring this morning and had a four point 318 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: came up to him. UM, and then about down thirty UM, 319 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: I went a little harder, UM, a little sequence maybe 320 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty seconds with some antlers. UM, a little hard, 321 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: a little bit louder, more of like grinding and you know, 322 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: not not so much smashing, but just kind of more 323 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: some pushing with antlers and grinding. And uh, within probably 324 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds, I had some movement down. I was up 325 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: on the up on a ridge right the side um 326 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: a creek bottom, and it had some movie coming out 327 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: of that creek bottom thicket and had a nice, just 328 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: beautiful eight point came out, UM about five yards or so, 329 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: and I was coming out, take a look at the 330 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: take a look at the action. So that's UM. Typically 331 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: if I'm going to rattle, it's gonna early in the mornings, 332 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: and I'll be outside right on top of some thick betting. 333 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: What are you seeing for signmaking right now? Um, there's 334 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: some new scrapes there. They're being hit. UM, lots of 335 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: scrapes just being hit constantly fresh um. Not so much 336 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: new rubs, UM, but I would say there are certain scrapes, 337 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: the key scrapes are being visited quite often and at night. 338 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: What food sources are relevant? Right now for white tail 339 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: hunters in that part of the country right now, Spencer, 340 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: I would say, um, unless you've got some egg or 341 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: some food plants that have not been touched to have 342 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: that that have very little pressure so far, I would 343 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: stay off those. Do you're still coming into him, but 344 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: you know we are. It's just knee deep um in 345 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: the season. South Carolina opening up and most of the 346 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: state in August and Russia State in September. So there's 347 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: not a lot of hunting pressure. Do you having highly 348 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: educated this points so I would stay away from from 349 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: from highly prushed areas and I would get off in 350 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: the woods. The rut. The buck action we've seen the 351 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: past week has all been in Deeptember, all been in 352 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: thick areas, thick cover and in some mature pine blocks 353 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: that are between food plus between stands. We're seeing a 354 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: lot of deer, a lot of bucks moving. Um. I 355 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: mean it might be two hundred yards from a food plot. 356 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: They're not going into it, they're just skirted by it. Uh. 357 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: Deer hitting acorns and they're hitting some of that uh 358 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: natural vegetation in the pine forest. Um so um. They're 359 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: still hitting food plants and what's left in the act fields. 360 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: But I bet, but I just feel like it's it's 361 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: it's it's not important because they're probably hitting at night UM, 362 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: and I would just focus right now in the woods 363 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: getting their deep hitting mobile climb UM and figure out 364 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: where hunters haven't been yet. And that's probably before you're 365 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: gonna find the box because right now there's there's does 366 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: being breath, there's there's bucks tending does, and they're moving 367 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: a lot during the day, but they're just moving moving 368 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: in some thick areas. Let's see, you're in a tree 369 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: stand on November tenth in a state like South Carolina, 370 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: what does your ideal set up look like right now? 371 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: I would probably be either I would be outside of 372 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: a thick area there's some betting um or ideally maybe 373 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: between two maybe between two UM two betting sizes, and 374 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: it might need too. It might be outself a clear 375 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: cut that's been replanted and it's got a pipe to it. 376 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: But I would be in or around some batting and 377 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: being close and tight. So right now you've got bucks 378 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: that are cruising around UM check in dough betting UM 379 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: checking see you know, checking those dough groups, seat who's 380 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: in heat and you've got bucks, like like my encounter 381 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: this morning, that you're gonna hit them just that right 382 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: time where they're jacked up and they're gonna come and 383 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: looking looking for a fight. I've had most of my 384 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: success rattling this first second week in November. UM for 385 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: mature box usually the box I rattle end in October. 386 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: The late October is gonna be you know, immature yearlings 387 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: or one year olds to your two year olds. But 388 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: I would be in some dents cover and it might 389 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: be a pine block where it's been spend a couple 390 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: of times, you've been burned. But it's got some it's 391 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: got some you know, UM, got some high vegetation where 392 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: you can climb and see some distance and it's it's 393 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: catch those deer moving with the keys. You've got to 394 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: be around or or close to some thick, thick areas 395 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: and it could just be a little pockets here and there. Um, 396 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: But if you can find where the does are, if 397 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: you if you go where they're betting, hunt around those 398 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: because you're gonna you're gonna find the box um right 399 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: on top level. Going forward. Then in this next week 400 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that bucket TV is 401 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: going to be on a scale of one to ten 402 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: in South Carolina. Um, we're gonna start to level off 403 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. Um, I think you know, we're gonna 404 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: start to see if you know, if if if hunters 405 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: are staying the woods, we're probably gonna see some more 406 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: chure bucks, some order ones. There was some five and 407 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: six year six year olds starting to show themselves a 408 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: little bit more. If think young bucks are out. Um 409 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: out was first first round breeding. But this will start 410 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: to level off because most of these does a lot 411 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: of them have already been bred. Um, but it's gonna 412 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: pick back up a little bit. We easily get a 413 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: little stars around Thanksgiving going into December of that second 414 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: second bright cycle. So I think it's still gonna be great. 415 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: Uh for the next week. Um, we got some a 416 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: little bit warmer temperatures got coming in the high seventies 417 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: and probably something like the low fifties, so it's not 418 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: gonna be getting cold, but they're still out. Um, you 419 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: just gotta get the stick areas all right, Mark, congrats 420 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: on your success earlier this season. Good luck with the 421 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: rest of your fall, and thank for joining me. Thanks Spencer, 422 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: thanks for having me all right and joining us Online. 423 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: Next is Byron Horton from the white Tail Experience in Ohio. Now, 424 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: Byron in Ohio, what would you say the buck activity 425 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten. 426 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: I gotta go with a solid tent on this one. 427 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: Um from my hunt the other day to having a 428 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: few few bucks come in and oh, make scrapes kind 429 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: of be poking around some doughs. In the last few days, 430 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: we've seen chase thing um bucks responding to calls the 431 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: woods have been on fire. Now, you just killed a 432 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: giant buck over the weekend. Tell us about that hunt, 433 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: why you were in that area, and why that buck 434 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: wanted to be in that spot. Yeah, So I think 435 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: what made that spot super hot is, uh, there was 436 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: a couple of scrapes all in a collective area and 437 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: that particular piece you can go good ways without finding 438 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: good bucks sign but it's kind of was an old 439 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: logging road set up. But there's also like what we 440 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: call a hogback kind of funneling some movement down on 441 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: and uh. I noted that there were those that tended 442 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: to feed in the evening or I'm sorry, in the mornings, 443 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: kind of coming back probably to where they vetted, but 444 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: they tended to cross this oak flat into this general area. 445 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: And uh, I had actually hunted this stand location as 446 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: several times, and I thought it was just a matter 447 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: of oh being there the day they daylighted, if you will, 448 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: or or or the day it got hot. And sure 449 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: enough I was able to time that up and saw 450 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: three three bucks all within bow range and and just 451 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: have an awesome morning. In September, you mentioned that there 452 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: was a cluster of scrapes nearby. What have you seen 453 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: for signmaking over the last week. Yeah, I uh, I 454 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: did witness the first book come in and hit the scrape, 455 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: but the the other two seemed to pass on by 456 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: or kind of just be more in the cruising style mode. 457 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: Um I do. I am still finding somewhat fresher rubs 458 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: where there are still shavings, but it's definitely not not 459 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: as how to say that late October time period, um so, 460 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: so I'm not is super worried about that. I am 461 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: still paying attention to tracks. In fact, that particular shelf 462 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: had a good amount of tracks on it in some 463 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: good size one so so that kind of led me 464 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: to believe it's worth another hunt if you're doing some 465 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: inseason scouting. You mentioned that you might be looking for 466 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: scrapes and tracks. What are some other things you're trying 467 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: to identify in the middle of the rout if you're 468 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: on a new piece of ground. Yeah, and and right 469 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: there when you said new piece of ground, I think 470 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: not being afraid to to go for a walk about 471 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: his key. Can you gotta figure out where you want 472 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: to be? But uh, I you know, if I was 473 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: new to a piece, I would also maybe look at 474 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: some some creaker or ditch crossings where they too, you know, 475 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: it's a little easier for them to lay down a 476 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: solid track. Um. And honestly to bumping some does. Um. 477 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: You know that this time of year could be key. 478 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: I've never pulled off to Jared Scheffler whitetail adrenaline, bump 479 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: a pair and then go in and shoot them. But 480 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: I have bump does and that has led me to then, 481 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: you know, twenty minutes later, an hour later, having bucks 482 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: come by, so so so being you know, getting in 483 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: visuals is always a good thing. I know you have 484 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: to do a lot of aerial scouting to make haunts 485 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: like this happen. So if you're doing some aerial scouting, 486 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: what are you looking for to try to find dough 487 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: or buck betting on a piece of ground in the 488 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: Midwest and stay like Ohio. Yeah, I full disclosure, I'm 489 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: not the best eat scouter, um, but I I do 490 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: look for for maybe subtle um vegetation or habitat style changes. 491 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: Um Me personally, I think in my playbook, I gotta 492 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: walk that stuff and see it in field versus um 493 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: finding on the map. And that's just requires some bootleather. Honestly, 494 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: if you're running trail cameras in the middle of the ruts, 495 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: how much stock do you put into the information you're 496 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: getting from those? Yeah, I'm not opposed to to getting 497 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: a trail camp picture and acting on Um. I know 498 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: those bucks are moving, but I have seen bucks so 499 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: kind of repeat their cruising loop. Um So, so I 500 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: do put a little bit of stock in that, maybe 501 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: more on like a three or four out of ten 502 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: compared to stay late October, it's like a seven to 503 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: nine out of ten for me. Let's say you're not 504 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: tagged out in Ohio and it's November ten and you're 505 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna be in a tree stand. Tell us what your 506 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: ideal set up looks like. Yeah, this is my go 507 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: to combination of features. Um, I like to be on 508 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: the down wind side of does, but I need a 509 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: secondary or third feature in there to kind of draw 510 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: the bucks. And I like I like the hogbacks. I 511 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: really like some sort of a terrain cut or erosing 512 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: cut to to funnel those deer down. And then, um, 513 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: I like habitat that that maybe gets a touch thicker. 514 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: So those bucks have to visually see some sometimes and 515 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: find those does. Um that is kind of my go to. 516 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: And if the slope tends to catch morning sun, those 517 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: thermals tend to rise a little bit, and I think 518 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: those bucks like them a touch more than then maybe 519 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: a shaded hillside going forward. Then, in this next week 520 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that bucket activity is 521 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: going to be on a scale of to ten in Ohio? 522 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: Oh I think in the next couple of days we 523 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: do have some warm attempts. But Dave has been seeing 524 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: a good amount of a buck activity. I'm gonna still 525 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: go a ten. I think this is the time of 526 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: year it is that you can go ahead and give 527 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: it that high number. So alright, buying, congrats again on 528 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: the awesome buck good luck the rest of your fallen. 529 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me, appreciate it alright and joining us 530 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: on the line. Last is Sam Sohold from Public Land 531 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: Teas in North Dakota. Now Sam in North Dakota. What 532 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity has been lately on 533 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, I would say probably 534 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: a five or six. You know, I've seen some small 535 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: bucks cruise and kind of some of those. Yeah, younger 536 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: bucks cruising for sure. I have, you know, on trail 537 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: cameras that I run. I've had some more mature bucks daylighting. 538 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: But it doesn't feel like the rut is in full 539 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: swing yet. What have you been seeing for signmaking over 540 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: the last week? Signmaking has been really good. Lots of 541 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: lots of bucks hit scrapes, lots a lot more rubs 542 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: and stuff like all the small scrub brush getting shredded. 543 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, lots of scrapes everywhere the last couple of years, 544 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: this time of year, you've killed a buck using a 545 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: decoy and tell us about your decoying strategy in early 546 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: to mid November. Yeah, there's uh, there's hard. There's very 547 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: few things I love more than decoying deer. Um. My 548 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: strategy is typically too one of two things, either I'm 549 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna get I'm gonna hunt somewhere where there's really good visibility, 550 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put out a full size decoy um 551 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: and so you know deer. So if I could see 552 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: a deer crossing, I can call to it, rattle at it, 553 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: and it gives it something to focus on when it's 554 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: coming in. Um. So that's one scenario that I've had 555 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: work really well. And then the other scenario is using 556 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: heads up decoy one that attaches to my bow and 557 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: try to get into a spot where I think there's 558 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: gonna be bucks cruising with dose um Or if I 559 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: can find a dough that has a buck Honor, that's 560 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: a really good scenario to go decoy and sneak in 561 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: and then pop up that decoy kind of get in 562 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: their bubble and make a mad and make am make 563 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: a move Toria towards you and slip up where you 564 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: can get an air whint them. And is there a 565 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: phase of the rout that you like decoying especially? Yeah, 566 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: I mean I think like right when kind of right 567 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: before it all goes nuts, when those bigger books are 568 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: looking for Dose that are coming into estrus and they're 569 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: they're just trying to fight off anything that might be, 570 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, like in their territory. If you're going into 571 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: a piece of public for the first time in a 572 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: state like North Dakota, what are you looking for when 573 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: you're doing some in season scouting? So I'm looking for 574 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: fresh sign, whether that be scrapes or rubs, um, and 575 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: then just looking for stuff like a lot of the 576 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: public isn't gonna hold crops or egg you know. Um, 577 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: so a lot of times I'm just looking for stuff 578 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: that has transitions between bedding and food. Uh, you know, funnels, 579 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: pinch points, stuff like that. What is the crop harvest 580 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: status right now in North Dakota? You mentioned that not 581 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 1: a lot of the public as egg, but for the 582 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: private that does, what does that look like? Um? The 583 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: majority of the crops have come off with it being 584 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: such a dry summer. Everything started coming off early and 585 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. Like most of the 586 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: beans have been off for a while, but most of 587 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: the corner has not come off. Does water ever factor 588 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: into your setups in a state like North Dakota this 589 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: time of year? I don't. I typically don't focus on 590 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: water much this time of year, But it's also a 591 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: very different year this year with how dry it is. Um. 592 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: You know, typically the deer aren't struggling to find water 593 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: because every ditch and whatever has water somewhere. So um 594 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: it will probably play a little bit more of a 595 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: factor this year in focusing on it, um you know, 596 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: and maybe finding some small you know, slews in back 597 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, hideaway spots that might bring in a few 598 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: more deer, but um, not typically historically in the Great Plains. 599 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: When do you expect to start seeing some midday movement 600 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: and are you seeing that yet? In so right now 601 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: should be seeing good midday movement. Um, have been seeing 602 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: a whole lot of it yet. But there's a huge 603 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: cold front coming kind of across the entire country later 604 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: this week, and I think that will help a lot. Um. 605 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: I know, some areas are supposed to get snow. Uh, 606 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: definitely a lot of areas and going to get rain. 607 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: And the high tempts are looking in the low thirties, 608 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: So there should be a lot of good midday movement, uh, 609 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: you know for the next seven to ten days. I 610 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: would guess it's November ten and you're going to be 611 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: in a tree stand. What is your ideal set up? Look? 612 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: Like on that date. For me, I want to be 613 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: somewhere on the down wind side of a real thick 614 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: betting area. You know, if I can, if I can 615 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: add to that, you know, some sort of a pinch 616 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: or a funnel that kind of leads to that type 617 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: of area. UM is even better. But a lot of 618 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: times this time of year, when all those doughs are 619 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: starting to come into estus, you'll have bucks that are 620 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: walking on the down wind sides of betting areas, just 621 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: sent checking and looking for those that have come in 622 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: UM and you know, go going after him. So I 623 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: want to be on the down wind side of something 624 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: really thick going forward. Then is next week or so 625 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: you think that buck activity is going to be on 626 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten in North Dakota, I 627 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: think it'll ramp up to about an eight. I just 628 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: think with the cooler weather coming in. UM, we've had 629 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: a real dry, warm kind of lead up to the rut, 630 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: and I think with with that chain shifting weather padam pattern, 631 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: especially after that front blows through, it really should have 632 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: everything moving. I mean, they're still deer, they're still running, UM, 633 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: but it just doesn't feel like I haven't had that. 634 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: You know, massive chasing activity. I haven't seen you know, 635 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: bucks really acting stupid um like they tend to this 636 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: time of year. All right, Sam, good luck with the 637 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: rest of your falling Thanks for joining me. Yeah, thanks 638 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: you too, And that concludes this week's episode of Wired 639 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: to Haunts Rut Fresh Radio. Thanks to Dan Mark, Byron, 640 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: Sam and Tony for joining me, and thank you guys 641 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: for listening. As a reminder, the reading materials for this 642 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: week's episode can be found in our description of the episode. 643 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna see articles like why transitions are the perfect 644 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: rut setups? Can you burn out a rut? Stand? How 645 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: to kill a pressured buck during the rut? And what 646 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: is the white tail lockdown? If you want to see 647 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: the two bucks that I just killed in Montana and Wyoming, 648 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: make sure you're following me on Instagram at Spencer new Hearth, 649 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: and to see Tony's kills, follow at Tony J. Peterson 650 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram. Both of those hunts are going to be 651 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: featured on Wired to Haunt in Meat Eaters new series 652 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: called One Week in November, which starts November six and 653 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: runs through the end of the year. If you want 654 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: to stay up to date on that new show. Go 655 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: over to our YouTube channel, meat Eater and subscribe. I 656 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: will talk to you next week, but until then, stay 657 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:36,959 Speaker 1: wired to hunt.