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Speaker 1: live Sunday Night, February fourth, the U of or Lord,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. But a lot of stuff has happened

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Speaker 1: You may be wondering, how do I make sense of this?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I mean in just a second.

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Speaker 1: We're high atop a spirited downtown Nashville, Tennessee. The city

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Speaker 1: But yes, friends, we're here, We're live. College football is

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Speaker 1: on the show Nebraska, What could they be? Usc What

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Speaker 1: could they be? I will discuss. I got several breakout

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Speaker 1: what we need from you. If you're an SID head coach,

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Speaker 1: whoever's listening, what we would ask is one on one

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Speaker 1: had Bama not lost Nick Saban, Alabama probably is still

428
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 1: the number one program because they've beaten Georgia the last

429
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 1: couple of times they've well two of the last times

430
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: they played. They've got double digit wins every year. Kaylin

431
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: de Boor is a phenomenal coach. I've got him as

432
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: a top five head coach in the country, So it's

433
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: not like Alabama massively downgraded. You lose a legend, but

434
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: in the here and now, the day to day, the

435
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: month to month, the year to year, you replace him

436
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: with a really high caliber head coach in his own right,

437
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 1: and Kaylin de bor just put together a really good staff.

438
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,959
Speaker 1: They've been the number one a recruiter along with Georgia

439
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: in this conference over the last several years. And there's

440
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 1: never a question of commitment, there's never a question of

441
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: resource here. They're all in. So this is pretty simple. Georgia, Alabama,

442
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: and you can put them in any order you want to.

443
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I was pretty solidly Georgia one, Alabama two

444
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: given the coaching turnover, but that's Tier one. Now. I

445
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: could go to Tier two right now, but that would

446
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: be too simple. So what I want to do is

447
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: go to Tier five. We ended up having five tiers

448
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: of programs in the SEC. I want to go to

449
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: number fourteen right quick. Let's get the bottom taken care

450
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: of Arkansas number fourteen program in the SEC, right now

451
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: there's clear regression with this program. They've gone nine to four,

452
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: seven and six, four and eight the last three years.

453
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: On field, you've had a ton of staff turnover. They've

454
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: done pretty decently recruiting, but there's big question regarding the

455
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: overall stability. Mississippi State is number fifteen, and that's much

456
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: more just a victim of circumstance with what happened with

457
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: Mike Leach. And they've had three head coaches now in

458
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: three years. Jeff Levy as a head coach. We don't

459
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: know anything about him because this will be his first

460
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: shot as a head coach. They've been fairly good at

461
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: acquiring talent. But until there's less unknown, we got to

462
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: put Mississippi State there, and Vanderbilt we put in their

463
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: own tier. We called it Tier V. We're not going

464
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: to bang on Vanderbilt right down the road from US.

465
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: Good people over there, but Vanderbilt, of course is going

466
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: to be number sixteen in the SEC. Now I want

467
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: to go to Tier four. Let's work our way up

468
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: a little bit, the number eleven program in the SEC.

469
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: Right now, I've got South Carolina last three years seven

470
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: and six, eight and five, five and seven. They play

471
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: brutal schedules every year, so the caliber of ball they're

472
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: playing would be, you know, much more comparable to like

473
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: eight wins nine wins in some other conferences. But we're

474
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: talking about the SEC here. They have had top twenty

475
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: five recruiting and good portal. There's good energy about the program,

476
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: and so I'm putting them at number eleven. I look

477
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: at Kentucky at number twelve. We struggled with this. We

478
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: really struggled with the order of South Carolina and Kentucky.

479
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: You can easily sell me on eleven and twelve flip flopping.

480
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: Kentucky's got a ten win season and a couple of

481
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: seven win seasons in the last three years, so they're

482
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Speaker 1: on field, has been better than South Carolina. They've gone

483
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: one and two against South Carolina. Though they've got really

484
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: good portal strategy. Kentucky has not recruited right on par

485
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: with South Carolina, although it hasn't been far off. But

486
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: they've got really good portal strategy and they know exactly

487
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: what they have to do. They know exactly who they need.

488
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops, he's been stable. They've had churn elsewhere. I mean,

489
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen's been in and out the door five times

490
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: in the last three years. It feels like an offensive coordinator.

491
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: But South Carolina, Kentucky eleven, twelve, Florida is all the

492
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: way down at thirteen. And I want you to think

493
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: about this. One of the four bullet points that I

494
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: care about a lot is resource pool, and Florida's got

495
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: a much better resource pool than any of the other

496
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: programs they're floating around down here, which just shows you

497
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: how poor they've been on the field. They have had

498
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: three straight sub five hundred seasons, but they've also had

499
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: three top twenty recruiting classes, so they're acquiring talent. They

500
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: got good resource pool, like there's good tradition, the program,

501
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: that brand is iconic, but they're not winning. So how

502
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: in the world could you bump them up? They haven't

503
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: even been above five hundred, not for one year, but

504
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: for three years right now twenty twenty four. Obviously brutal schedule,

505
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: make or break year in many cases for billion nap

506
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: year and his staff and I would also say, before

507
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: we go to the next tier, I would also say,

508
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: look at number eleven all the way down through sixteen.

509
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: I would say it would be a very, very big surprise.

510
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: Even in a twelve team playoff era, if any of

511
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Speaker 1: those teams made the playoff this next year, every other

512
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: team from ten on up, you could paint me a

513
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: picture where I could see them making the playoff this year.

514
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: So let's go to Tier two. Who Tier two or

515
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: Tier three? I guess it would be Texas A and M.

516
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: We put it. Eight. Staff moves have happened here, but

517
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: I think they equal a net upgrade. So normally, if

518
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 1: you lose your head coach, it's dragging you down. I

519
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: actually think it kind of inflates him a little bit.

520
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: They've gone eight and four, five and seven, seven and

521
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: six on the field, but the recruiting and the pool

522
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: are both top notch resources. Like you wouldn't believe. Recruiting's

523
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: been good. They have been excellent in the portal in

524
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: Mike Elko's short time there. I got a top five

525
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: portal class right now. So Texas A and M at eight.

526
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: Auburn is at nine, huge wildcard, probably the biggest wildcard

527
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: team in the conference this year. Hugh Freeze has proven

528
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: as a program builder and as a head coach. I

529
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: don't doubt him. It's not like Jeff Levy taking over

530
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: where he's never been a head coach before. But also

531
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: I will admit there is a lot of leaning towards

532
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: the latter year here. So last year, you know, on

533
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: the field, they showed I thought, reasons to be optimistic

534
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: about the future. But also they just signed a number

535
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: eight recruiting class in the country, and so they're going

536
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: to be extremely aggressive in the portal as well. I

537
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: don't think they're done in this cycle. For example, you

538
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: got a whole lot of stuff about to happen all

539
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: over the country. So give me Auburn at number nine,

540
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: give me Missouri at number ten. Double digit wins last year,

541
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: how much do we make of that? Because they were

542
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: not that the two years before that. They just extended

543
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: Eli Drinkwitz good stability in the program. It feels like

544
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four is key here. If twenty twenty four

545
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: were another ten win season, I can see Missouri jumping

546
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: up in like the top seven here. They also have

547
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: been very good in the portal and their recruiting is

548
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: not bad either, So Missouri is a very solid ten.

549
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: If Missouri is the tenth best program in your conference,

550
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: and you could probably argue me up past ten, you

551
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: got a really deep conference now let's go to tier two. Yeah,

552
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: fin'll we get up to tier two. This is this

553
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: is tough. So we got Texas as the number three

554
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: program in the SEC. They border on one Tier one.

555
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: In fact, I guarantee you there are a lot of

556
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: people who say Texas should be a Tier one program. No,

557
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: they shouldn't. Not right now, they shouldn't. They should be

558
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: a high tier two program. And the reasons are right

559
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: there on the bottom of your screen. On field production

560
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: matters a lot here, and unlike Georgia and Alabama, Texas

561
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: has lost too many games to inexcusable opponents to merit

562
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: being a number one program, a Tier one program right now.

563
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean they've lost to Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, TCU,

564
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: Washington twice, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky and Baylor or Kansas

565
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: and Baylor in the last three years. Georgia and Alabama

566
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: hadn't done that. Texas is not on their level as

567
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: a program yet. Now, if you wanted to argue from

568
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: this point moving forward, they will be That's cool. That's

569
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: not how I look at it, though. So if you

570
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: want to do that, that's doing it your way. We're

571
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: doing it my way here and Therefore Texas still really lofty.

572
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: They're up at number three and a lot of indicators

573
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: pointing in the right direction. That's why they're number three.

574
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: Just went to the playoff last year too. LSU at

575
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: number four. You got the last year of ed Oorzern

576
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: still baked in here. But this is Brian Kelly's program now,

577
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: it's a top talent acquisition program, one of the top

578
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: head coaches in the country, leading the program back to

579
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: back double digit win seasons. And so even though I

580
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: said the last year of Ozeroon is baked in, really

581
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: really on the back burner when I say baked in,

582
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: because there is hardly anything that is lingering there about

583
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: what LSU was under Ozeron in the latter stages. So

584
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: LSU rock solid, LSU trending in the right direction. Strong

585
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: number four there, and you could argue me, I mean

586
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: I would argue back, but you could argue with me

587
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: they should be number three. I'd put Texas above them.

588
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: I've got Oklahoma at number five. Oklahoma double digit wins

589
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: two of the last three years. You've got that sub

590
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: five hundred year baked in there. But Brent Vinnables has

591
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: taken over. He's had three top ten recruiting and portal

592
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: classes combined. They we've got good stability. Brent Venables, you

593
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 1: could argue still has somewhat of a question mark on him.

594
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that's getting answered though this year.

595
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: Much like I said with Missouri, if ou rattles off

596
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: nine or ten wins, then they're back to be in

597
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: Oklahoma offensive lines of question got Jackson Arnold starting a

598
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: quarterback this year, but Oklahoma rock solid program. They're there

599
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: at number five. There was late change in the power

600
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: rankings here in six and seven because we had Tennessee

601
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: above Ole Miss most of the afternoon. But then the

602
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: more we looked at it, the more we said, hold on.

603
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: Ole Miss has gone ten and three, eight and five,

604
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: eleven and two. There's a head to head win against

605
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: Tennessee baked in there, golf balls involved in everything. Why

606
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: would we not put ole Miss ahead of Tennessee. Well

607
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: we are. They're going about acquiring talent a little different way,

608
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: but they're doing it a way that you're allowed to

609
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: do it. With the portal and Lane Kiffin, I can't

610
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: believe this. I think a lot of you find it

611
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: hard to believe. Has created a very very state organization

612
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: over there, and the folks who doubted him before probably

613
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: still doubt him, and the folks who defended him before

614
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: are still defend him. He's winning football games. I don't

615
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: know what more to tell you. He's winning football games

616
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: over there. So we got a old miss number six,

617
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: got Tennessee number seven. Splitting hairs here. You could easily

618
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: put Tennessee at six twenty wins in the last two seasons.

619
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: They've beaten Alabama. Josh Hipel is a top fifteen recruiter,

620
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: and they've got deep pockets there. The resource pool is

621
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: not in doubt. They've got a chancellor who'll go to

622
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: bat for him. They got an ad who will go

623
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: to bat for him. So there you see it. The

624
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: SEC power rankings heading into this year has nothing to

625
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: do with twenty twenty four, has nothing to do with

626
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: what I think you will become. That is a three

627
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: year rolling snapshot of on field production, talent acquisition, sort

628
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: of the resources you have, and stability. That's how I

629
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: define the difference between a program and a team. I'm

630
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: sure there'll be nothing agreements in the comments. Let's move on.

631
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: We had a question about a Big ten team here,

632
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: take another sip from the Chalice Jesse. Where would you

633
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: guess the biggest disagreement will come from there? I think

634
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: people will disagree with South Carolina and Kentucky. I think

635
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: some folks will say Texas belongs above well, they belong

636
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: in Tier one Oklahoma, Missouri too low. I could see

637
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: that very easily because of recency, bias or just maybe

638
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: outright truth telling. All right, anyway, so we'll take a

639
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: look at that later. By the way, if you're watching

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Speaker 1: the show, keep doing it. Just subscribe to the channel

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Speaker 1: while you do it. So Pap Smith good to hear

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Speaker 1: from Pap in Omaha, Nebraska. He asked, what do you

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Speaker 1: think Nebraska's chances of making some noise in twenty twenty

644
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Speaker 1: four are? In Matt Rule's second year, they were five

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Speaker 1: and seven last year. They had five losses by one possession.

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Speaker 1: They had four field goal losses and a loss by

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, which is the Nebraska story at this point.

648
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Speaker 1: They only lose one possession games. Excellent defense last year.

649
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Speaker 1: One of the most underrated defensive stats in America is

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Speaker 1: right there at Nebraska. They've got two top twenty five

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Speaker 1: recruiting classes as of late, just brought in Dylan Ryola.

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Speaker 1: He committed from Georgia, so got the quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 1: So in that snapshot, I feel really good. Also, Matt

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Speaker 1: Rule year two, Matt, he turns things around pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: Temple year one, two and ten, year two, six and six,

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Speaker 1: year three, ten and four, and had another ten one

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Speaker 1: season after that, goes to Baylor one and eleven his

658
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: first year, seven and six is next year eleven and

659
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Speaker 1: three his third year. So you started five and seven

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Speaker 1: at Nebraska, what will you do this year? We've seen

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Speaker 1: TCU and Washington play for national championships the last two years,

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Speaker 1: so I will never sit here and tell you something

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Speaker 1: can't happen, because had I told you in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one that TCU was about to play for a title

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Speaker 1: in the next two years, had I told you in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two Washington's going to play for a national

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Speaker 1: title within two years, you of course would have called

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Speaker 1: me crazy and the comment section would have been loaded

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Speaker 1: up with hateful remarks which would either be not owned

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Speaker 1: up to or deleted. So I don't really care if

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Speaker 1: I buy into Nebraska and you say, what's crazy, They're

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Speaker 1: not going to be able to do anything. Well, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: crazier things have happened, is all I'm saying. Now. The

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Speaker 1: answer to the question of how good can they be

675
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Speaker 1: is probably just better than you think they can be.

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Speaker 1: But I know that when the Big Ten is getting

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Speaker 1: reshuffled like it is, there may be some out there

678
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Speaker 1: who say their time is passed, their window is passed.

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00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: It used to be you could just hang out in

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten West, be the best of a bunch

681
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Speaker 1: of mediocre teams and go to Indy get your skull

682
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Speaker 1: bashed in. But you go to Indianapolis and you could say, hey,

683
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Speaker 1: we went to the Big Ten title game. Well, now

684
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Speaker 1: they just take the top two tens from the conference.

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Speaker 1: So how they gonna make it? Well, they play UTEP, Colorado,

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Speaker 1: and Northern Iowa out of conference this year. They don't

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Speaker 1: play Penn State, they don't play Michigan, and they don't

688
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: play Oregon. So Nebraska avoids three of what I would

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Speaker 1: call the top four teams or top four programs in

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten this year. And we've already documented Year

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00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: two under Matt rule is death taxes. And that's the

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Speaker 1: third thing that's a constant your team improving. If Matt

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Speaker 1: Rule is your head coach in year three. Take a

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Speaker 1: look at that schedule, UTEP Colorado, Northern Iowa, Illinois at Purdue,

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Speaker 1: Rutgers at Indiana. They will probably be favored in every

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Speaker 1: one of those games, I would guess, and if not,

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00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: a very short underdog. And then they've got a game

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Speaker 1: at Ohio State and they go to USC that ought

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Speaker 1: to be fun later in the year. So it's there.

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Speaker 1: It's there. Remember, kids, remember this is the expanded place

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Speaker 1: Off era. They don't have to win the Big Ten

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Speaker 1: to make some noise there. The Big ten odds to

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Speaker 1: win the national title. So basically, if you're watching on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: these are Big Ten teams, but the odds you see

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00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: are from FanDuel, not from me. Those odds are to

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Speaker 1: win the national title. And you see one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 1: five six. Nebraska is the seventh team in the odds market.

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Speaker 1: You get really good odds. If you think Nebraska is

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Speaker 1: going to make a surprise title run. I think they'll

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00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: be very good, probably surprisingly good this year. For people

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Speaker 1: who don't know Matt Ruhle's track record, they're watching us

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Speaker 1: in Franklin, Tennessee, Ared Moore, Oklahoma, and Washington d C.

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Speaker 1: Oh By the way, by the way. The other day,

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Speaker 1: we were talking in our staff room about the moves

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Speaker 1: Jed Fish was making at Washington and we were talking

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Speaker 1: about all the staff turnover. They're losing twenty to twenty

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00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: two starters, blah blah blah. So I asked Jesse to

718
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: find me who Jed Fish had hired for his defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Jesse googled Washington DC. I was one of the funniest

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Speaker 1: things that I've seen in quite a while, and was

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00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: shocked when he did not immediately get Husky's coaching news

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Speaker 1: in the return Washington DC. That man, Google. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's move on. Let's talk amongst ourselves here so that

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Speaker 1: you can sound smart when you say I told you

725
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: so six or seven months from now about quarterbacks. Gregory

726
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: from Tampa, Florida. Who are some quarterbacks you think could

727
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: have a breakout year this year? Well, I got several

728
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Speaker 1: of them here, Nico Iamaliava, because yes, we do believe

729
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: in pronouncing college football players' names right on this college

730
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Speaker 1: football show is a five star talent that's worth every

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Speaker 1: bit of headline space that's been dedicated to him. Remember

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00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker a couple of years ago at Tennessee remember

733
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Speaker 1: when Josh Heipel and company kind of rewrote the record

734
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Speaker 1: books up there with him. Then you had the Joe

735
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Speaker 1: Milton here was what it was. Not terrible, but not outstanding.

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Speaker 1: This is the guy that's next in line for having

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Speaker 1: one of those record book rewriting sort of seasons. Played

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Speaker 1: against Iowa in the bowl game. And it's a bowl

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Speaker 1: game because you can take from it what you want to.

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Speaker 1: But Iowa's defense had season highs hung on him in

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Speaker 1: that game. And that's Nico's first start. I think it

742
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: was his first start in Collins. So that's just a

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Speaker 1: very very small glimpse of what we could expect. And

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Speaker 1: what it means to me is, Okay, we got all

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Speaker 1: the confidence in the world in him, and now we

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Speaker 1: get an entire off season worth of working under Josh

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00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: Heipel develops quarterbacks as well as any of them, and

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Speaker 1: so he is playing for the right guy. He's playing

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Speaker 1: in the right system. So I'm looking at him, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking down at LSU, at Garrett Nussmeyer. He's been waiting man.

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00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: Garrett Nussmeyer. He was from the class of twenty twenty one.

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00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: He's been around forever. He played versus Wisconsin in LSU's

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00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: bowl game through for nearly four hundred yards three touchdowns.

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00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: He's got a chance to shine in this offense. And

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00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: it would be a great story too, because guys like

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00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: Nessmeyer most of the time, if they committed one place

757
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one and it's twenty twenty four, they've

758
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: bounced around two or three times. He's stuck it out

759
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: and now he's in line to be the starter for them,

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Speaker 1: and they've got confidence in him. It's not like he's

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Speaker 1: the best of a bunch of bad options. They've got

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Speaker 1: confidence in him. He's a red shirt junior this year

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Speaker 1: six two two oh five, so a veteran who doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of playing experience. If that makes sense

765
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Speaker 1: At Kansas State, how could you not be excited for

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Speaker 1: our guy Avery Johnson. He's the reason Ohio State has

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Speaker 1: a new quarterback. Will Howard looked saw him and said,

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Speaker 1: I'm out big spark last year. Remember that Texas Tech

769
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Speaker 1: game had like nineteen touchdowns. He's an excellent athlete and

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Speaker 1: he has now a full year just like I talked

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Speaker 1: about with Nico to develop knowing he's the number one

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Speaker 1: in that system of Chris Climb than the guys up

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Speaker 1: there at Kansas State, and I am very much looking

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Speaker 1: for he can run the ball. I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 1: what they can make him into as a passer. Kansas

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Speaker 1: State could be a fun, fun team to watch because

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Speaker 1: of him this upcoming year. Now you've probably heard of

778
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Speaker 1: most of those names. But the next name. Have you

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00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: heard of him? Leonoris Sellers? Anyone has anyone heard? I

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Speaker 1: know you guys in Columbia. Have I mentioned him? Last summer?

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Speaker 1: I said, Hey, Spencer Ratler is going to be the

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Speaker 1: starter for South Carolina this fall. But they got a

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Speaker 1: kid named Leonora Sellers, and they know they hit a

784
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Speaker 1: home run on him, and now it may be his time.

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Speaker 1: I know Ashford transferred up there, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: probably Lenora Seller's team this fall. I look at him,

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Speaker 1: and Shane Beemer looks at him, and his staff looks

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00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: at him, and they say, all right, that's our guy.

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Speaker 1: We got to build around him. They brought in I

790
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: think three receivers out of the portal, and also remember

791
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: now you can do stuff post spring in the portal.

792
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Speaker 1: So I think there's a world where there's a certain

793
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Speaker 1: amount of buzz and hype that starts to build around

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Speaker 1: Lenora Cellars in Columbia and then you sell that after

795
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: spring to Hey, I know other guys are telling you

796
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: we got a question at the quarterback position, but you

797
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: hear that, hear that drum beat. That's the quarterback you

798
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: could come play with. Wouldn't shock me if that happened.

799
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Speaker 1: And he's big boy man six three two forty former

800
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: three star guy. But like I said, as soon as

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Speaker 1: they got him on campus, they were really in love

802
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: with him, knew they had something with him, and I

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Speaker 1: think they're right. What about USC? What about Lincoln Riley?

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley and quarterback Just that's the locked hand in

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00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: hand emoji there, and Miller Moss is his guy now.

806
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: Miller Moss had six touchdowns in the ball game against Louisville,

807
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy two yards. He is, yet again

808
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Speaker 1: a reason why Ohio State probably has a transfer quarterback

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00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: at least one named Will Howard, because it looked like

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Speaker 1: Howard was headed to USC. Then this ballgame happens, and

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley himself said in the postgame, Yeah, Miller Moss

812
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: probably played too good for us to get any other

813
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: transfer quarterback now. And that's a system where they'll lean

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00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: on their quarterback because that's the system where they'll probably

815
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: have to score a lot of points this year. And

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00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: he's a former four star, he's number fifteen quarterback a

817
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: few cycles back. Miller Moss should have a breakout year

818
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: this fall and it should probably just build above and

819
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: beyond on what he did in that bowl game. And

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00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold very easy answer. I saved him for last

821
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Speaker 1: because this is the most slam dunk answer. Former five

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00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: star guy, former Elite eleven MVP at Oklahoma, he played

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Speaker 1: in their bowl game. Everyone's been waiting on this. This

824
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: is Brent Vinable's quarterback. So good that Dylan Gabriel started

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Speaker 1: at UCF started at Oklahoma, he looked at Jackson Arnold

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Speaker 1: and said, yeah, I'm leaving. And it's not like he

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00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: faded away. Dylan Gabriel transferred to Oregon and will be

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Speaker 1: probably the starting quarterback at Oregon this upcoming year. Jackson

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Speaker 1: Arnold was good enough to chase him away, and he

830
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Speaker 1: is a guy who will have a good defense to

831
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Speaker 1: play with. Offensive line probably a question right now, but

832
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Speaker 1: that will be a team that is built in a

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00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: very complimentary fashion to where you don't have to look

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Speaker 1: at him and say all right, go hang forty five

835
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Speaker 1: for us so we can have a chance to win today.

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Speaker 1: So those are some of the names I'm looking at.

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Speaker 1: You can circle any other names you want to. Let's

838
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Speaker 1: move it along. Nice, nice, crisp pace. Tonight on the show,

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Speaker 1: guess who we had a question about. It's been a

840
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Speaker 1: little while, but we had a question about Colorado. Hey, Josh,

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Speaker 1: I'm Edison from Bronx New York. What's your assessment of

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Speaker 1: Colorado's off season? And is it a worry that we

843
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Speaker 1: don't have a defensive coordinator yet? Thank you in advance. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is. In an ideal world, you want a full

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00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: coaching staff. So I will answer brutally and honestly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm concerned about it. Yeah, I'm somewhat concerned. When you've

847
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Speaker 1: only got six high school in your recruiting class, in

848
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Speaker 1: your rank one hundred and eleventh in recruiting, it concerns

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00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: me a little bit. But you know what I've learned.

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Speaker 1: I have learned to refuse to apply conventional wisdom. To

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Speaker 1: So there's the way the rest of the sport works,

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Speaker 1: and then there's the way that you know things could

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about them dragging you over on

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Speaker 1: the USC boards? Well, I ca and confirm it's happening

939
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: on one board the peristyle over there at USC football

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Speaker 1: dot com. And here's what it's about. The other night,

941
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: we were talking about programs in the Big Ten, and

942
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: we were talking about the four newcomers to the Big Ten.

943
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: You got USC, you got UCLA, and you got Oregon

944
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Speaker 1: in Washington. And so I wanted to ask myself, as programs,

945
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Speaker 1: where do they fit in? Do they enter as the

946
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Speaker 1: tenth best, as the third best, as the seventh best?

947
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: And so I responded accordingly, and I said, I thought

948
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949
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Speaker 1: the third tier. And then I defined what the tiers were.

950
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Speaker 1: I said, I think Ohio State and Oregon are in

951
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Speaker 1: Tier one. You can put Michigan up there if you

952
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: want to. If you don't, Michigan's clearly in Tier two

953
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: with Penn State. And that's it. So four total teams

954
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: make up the first two tiers. And then I said,

955
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: after that, it's really really muddy, but I think there's

956
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: clear separation, and I said USC would be in Tier three.

957
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: So they grabbed that over on the USC site and

958
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: they took it to the board and they talked about

959
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: how insane that was. Now, I have no problem going

960
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: to our team site boards and conversing with people, and

961
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: so I did. I got heads up a little bit late,

962
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: but I did. I went over there and there's a

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Speaker 1: four page deep thread on the peristyle now where we've

964
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: been going back and forth, and I have not gotten

965
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: a valid rebuttal that's changed my mind yet. So what

966
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: I did get, and this is fair, what I did get,

967
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: was a whole lot of folks saying, if we maximize

968
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: our potential in the Big ten, we are a Tier

969
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: one program. Of course you are. I don't disagree with that,

970
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: as I stated earlier tonight, as I'll state one more time.

971
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: When I'm talking about how you're entering and where you're

972
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Speaker 1: being placed, I'm talking about the here and now I'm

973
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: talking about a rolling three year snapshot. What's your stability,

974
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: what's your talent acquisition level? And in us E's case,

975
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: how do you match up philosophically with what you're going

976
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: to have to be to win in the big ten.

977
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: And it's very unstable right now, very uncertain. So certainly,

978
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: if it pans out, you can be a Tier one program,

979
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: but that's not how you're entering. I had other folks

980
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: say you just hate USC, which is out of all

981
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Speaker 1: the allegations I get thrown my way, one of the

982
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: most inaccurate allegations. I have admitted before that I grew

983
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Speaker 1: up in the South, and a bunch of folks in

984
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: they hated USC in the South because it was the

985
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll era. That's when I was growing up. Everyone

986
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: nationally hated USC. Wasn't just a Southern thing. Now. I

987
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: remember when USC came to Auburn, I think blanked Auburn

988
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: that afternoon, and I remember how all the old heads

989
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: in the SEC had been talking about how that Southern

990
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: humidity was gonna bite the Trojans, and then the Trojans

991
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: come in there and say, hello, y'all gonna score? What

992
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Speaker 1: y'all gonna do? And I remember kind of chuckling because

993
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: it made a lot of people look foolish down there.

994
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't care less. I actually root for USC, have

995
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: admitted that many times, would love to be able to

996
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: cover the sport as USC was a Tier one pro

997
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: prom nationally. Would love that. I hope I've been pretty

998
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: clear about that. And then I had some people say

999
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Speaker 1: that I had us as a Tier three Big Ten

1000
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Speaker 1: team because of SEC homerism, when literally every team in

1001
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Speaker 1: the conversation is a non SEC team. So anyway, I

1002
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: will take you guys back to Spring. I guess that's

1003
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Speaker 1: when Lincoln Riley had overhauled his defensive staff, and Lincoln

1004
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: Riley said, along with that overhaul, we're overhauling our philosophy.

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Speaker 1: He didn't do that because they're where they need to

1006
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Speaker 1: be as a program. He did that cause of where

1007
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: they're not where they need to be as a program.

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00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: And he understands we are going to a world where

1009
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Speaker 1: they play a certain caliber of football on the line

1010
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. You want to know where you don't measure

1011
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: up right now as a program. You don't acquire and

1012
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: develop talent along the lines of scrimmage like Ohio State,

1013
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: like Michigan, like Oregon even does, or like Penn State does,

1014
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: and you will get humbled very quickly if you can't

1015
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: up on the line of scrimmas. You guys have seen

1016
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: that out in the PAC twelve. And by the way,

1017
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: you know not to bring up bad memories. But I

1018
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,440
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1019
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: not quite a year ago, when I had predicted that

1020
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,200
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1021
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: everyone wants to call you names, and then they go

1022
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Speaker 1: seven and five and then everyone shuts up. No one

1023
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Speaker 1: comes back to own it. But I was right, and

1024
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Speaker 1: right now I'm right on this. This is it is opinion.

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Speaker 1: But it's not really hard to figure out. Us he's

1026
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Speaker 1: not entering the Big ten as a Tier one or

1027
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1028
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: I think there are two teams in each one of them,

1029
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: and us he's not on PARS program with any of

1030
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Speaker 1: the four. Now, outside of that, you kind of grab

1031
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: bag it and they could absolutely ascend to being a

1032
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1033
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1034
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1035
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1036
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,640
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1039
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1040
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1041
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,279
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1043
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1044
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: itself out on the field us he will be a

1045
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: Big Ten championship contender. They'll be right there in the

1046
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Speaker 1: thick of it this year. It doesn't matter if it's

1047
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1053
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