WEBVTT - Ghost with Nicole Byer 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.160 On The Bechdel Cast. The questions asked if movies have 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:07.200 women and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:11.680 or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef in best 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:16.279 start changing it with the Bechdel Cast. Hi, Welcome to 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.079 the Bechtel Cast. My name is Jamie, my name is Caitlin. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:24.560 Welcome to a very spooky episode. I wanted the confidence 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.000 to open with a spooky but I did not. Um. 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:30.920 Welcome to the Beachdel Cast. This is our podcast where 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.519 we talk about the role of women in movies. Hey, 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:37.120 why is it called the Bechdel Cast Because it's inspired 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:42.919 by the Bechdel Test by Mr Jerry Bechdel. Jerry Tyrone Bechdel. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:50.960 I'm man, just kidding. Alison Bechdel developed a test whereby 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.000 two women in a movie have to talk to each other, 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.040 they have to have names. First of all, they have 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.480 to talk to each other. Their conversation has to be 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.160 about some thing other than a man. Is this too 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:06.040 much to ask of any movie? Usually? Yeah, I wouldn't 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.319 think so. But you think it would just be really 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.520 easy to write two women into your story and have 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:16.039 them talk about a fucking sandwich or something. Yeah, Hey, 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.360 nice sandwich. Thank you. My name is Carrie. My name 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.640 is Carrie Done. Two women named carry talking about a 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.040 sandwich that passes one of them. One of them c 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.399 A R y the other one spells at c A 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.959 R R I E. Yeah. But still this never happened. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.000 I don't know why I'm so angry so far, but 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:37.720 I'm I have a Mike's Hard. I have a Mike's 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.360 Hard Lemonade. You never have a Mike's Hard lemonade. I 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.360 know we both have one. For the record, I love 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.480 when people who listen to the podcast tweet pictures of 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.960 them drinking Mike's Hard Lemonade to us, just to check 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.400 in and be like, hey, we're supporting the brand that 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.520 you've never received any financial support from. You just happened 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.080 to be a fan of their products. And to you, guys, 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.440 I say, hey, thank you. Keep enjoying the Mike's brand. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.560 I know waiting at us with your photo of it 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.920 Mike's Hard Lemonade. Answer our tweets, please send us a 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.960 case enable us. Anyways, it's got a nice cold Mike's 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:12.560 Hard Lemonade in hand, strawberry lemonade. Baby Aristotle was giving 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.520 us a hard time about it, because he was like, 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.840 isn't that the bad flavor? And it's like, well, isn't 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:20.800 every flavor the bad flavor of misade? So true tastes 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:28.280 like my problematic past. Speaking of problems now anyway, Hey, 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:32.000 let's introduce our guest. Hey, I'm excited for it to 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.000 talk about today's movie, and it'll explain the spooky the 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:41.120 failed spooky motif. We did a great job. But hey, 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.040 before we talk about that, let's introduce our guests. You've 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.639 got a terrific comedian, very funny lady. You know we're 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:53.639 from Girl Code on MTV. That cute dogs, Nicole Buyers. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:01.440 I love how the original segue was speaking of problematic here. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.680 I know it didn't make any sense. I was like, 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.400 this is a dumb transition. Now I liked it, and 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.160 I wish you had an abandon and I wish you 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.600 had doubled down, Like this woman is a real problem. 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.000 She got here five minutes late. She's bad. She's not 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.200 drinking a Mike's hard lemonade. She's a bad potato only 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:22.680 because we didn't offer you one. No, it's okay, I'm 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:27.640 gonna go to the gym after this. Oh you're a 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.520 better woman than we are. We're literally going to get 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:35.400 another mix. That's the plan. So we're talking about the 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:40.720 movie Ghosts. When did you first see the movie? Um, 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:44.480 I don't remember how old I was, but I assume 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:49.160 maybe like eight, maybe seven, maybe six. I was very young. 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.680 A lot of the things went over my head. But 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.880 I just loved Whoopie Goldberg. I thought she was so 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.680 funny in it. And then I loved Patrick Swaze. I 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:03.560 was like, oh man, he makes my downstairs quiver. And 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.080 then I would just I just watched that movie so 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.240 many times. Would you say it's one of your favorites, 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:13.040 it's my favorite favorite of all? Yeah? I love it. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.600 I had seen it, I think probably for the first 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:20.880 time in college. Remembered the very famous pottery fox. Of course, 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.119 I didn't remember much else about it many years past, 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.040 and then I rewatched it again for this episode, and 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.640 I was like, oh, ship, this is a good movie. 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.360 It's a great movie that would never get made today, right, 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.960 Yeah it is. So. It's funny, it's scary, it's sweet. 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.839 I love it. It holds up, it does. I was 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.200 a little nervous because I watched it with my mom. 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.479 I think when I was like a young teen aby 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.520 thirteen or fourteen, and I remember loving it and being 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.599 like maybe I was just a babe, but I was 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.640 like I was a little bit afraid of it, but 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.960 I was also a little bit turned on. But it 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.240 like it has everything, has everything you could possibly want, 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.479 but it holds up in a pretty major I was 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.200 like so pleasantly surprised that how much fun it was 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.320 to say, And if you just analyze it from like 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:13.560 a storytelling screenwriting standpoint, it's really well crafted. Like you mentioned, 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.640 this movie would never be made today, which yes it 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.839 would not. But also a movie just came out called 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:26.039 a Ghost Story starring Ruoney Mara and Casey Affleck, and 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:31.720 the problematic, speaking of problematics, the log line is in 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:36.000 this singular exploration of legacy, love loss in the enormity 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:41.320 of existence, a recently diceased, white sheeted ghost returns to 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.320 his suburban home to try to reconnect with his bereft 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:49.200 wife to find white like an old school. That's the 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:55.240 movie poster. And I bet you it's not a comedy 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:59.000 and it should be. Like a woman turns around in 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.599 her bedroom and she's like a child ghost chicker tree 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.760 in my bedroom yeah, yeah, look up, this is the 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:14.440 movie covered in a sheet. What is it? I mean, 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.279 I'm all for covering Casey have like in a sheet 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.480 wherever he may be. What is it called a ghost story? 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:30.040 A ghost story? Oh Man, bad HANDA hilarious came out 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.039 July seven. Okay, it has sent on rotten tomatoes. Oh 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:38.200 I just shall we go see it? Honestly, maybe we 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.240 should go see it. But Roger Ebert gave it four 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.880 out of four. I don't buy it's not even alive. 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:48.799 But really, yeah, it was his website. Probably I thought 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:52.040 Siskel was dead or they both? Did? They know who's 0:06:52.040 --> 0:07:02.479 reviewing movies? Who we are? Who's a roper? Roper? Al? Oh? Fuck? 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:07.640 I really confused with two people? Who's roper? Replaced Cisco 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:11.880 and Siskel died? Oh so who replaced Ebert? No one? 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.720 You can't replace Ebert. I wonder if they're like arguing 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:21.840 in Heaven't like, how come I got replaced? Replaceable? But 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:29.680 he sings it like replaced every time you're irreplaceable. It 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.400 reminds me of my freshman in high school history teacher, 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.800 because that was when that song came out. She would 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.960 try to connect with us by asking us to pass 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.560 all our homework to the left to the left and 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.880 then would turn this song on while we would pass 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.480 our homework. What an awful job? What a terrible do 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.120 you have to try to? Like? She sat at home. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.680 I was like, how can I get through Beyonce? Beyonce 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.080 will help me teach the love of science. Now I 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.840 just need to develop a lesson plan that involves the left. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:05.960 Sad shout out to Miss McCray. You did your best anyway, Jamie. 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:07.880 When did you first se this movie? I saw it 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.840 when I was probably around the Miss McCray era. My 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.200 mom sometimes would just choose a summer night to show 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.920 us one of her weird, horny movies. This was one 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:21.160 of them that she'd had on cassette. And then she's like, Jamie, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.320 I think that because she knew that I had a 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.680 thing for Patrick Swayze, and she for some reason was like, 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.920 that's good because you and Patrick Swayze have the same birthday. 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.760 And my mom believes fun fact about my mom, she 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.480 thinks everyone who has the same birthday shares a part 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:40.680 of each other's soul. So she believed she believed because 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.880 Patrick Swayzy was alive at the time. She believed that 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:47.480 Patrick Swayzy and I had in August eighteenth connection and 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:49.560 that I should see the movie, and I thought I 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.960 loved it. So me and Michael Jackson had a connection. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.920 We were both born on August twenty night. Yeah, both 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.040 of your birthdays are coming up pretty soon? Are you 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.160 a liover go? I'm a Leo. Oh, I'm a virgo. 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.600 I've been wronged by virgos in the past. Oh well, 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.240 I'll push you down the stairs. Let's keep the trend 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:13.400 going my way out. I'm just like your leg will 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.479 splint her out of your body, just like in the Beguild. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.960 Just go in the Beguild. That doesn't pass the back 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.520 to old test, does it? Um? I don't even remember. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.600 It was such a terrible movie that I've blocked it 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.320 from memory. It's a wild movie, right, It's like set 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.000 during the Silver War and there's no black people, and 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:33.240 there's yeah, the Sofia couple of the couple in their 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.559 original version. It's just like way more interesting and better, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.160 and it's not all white people. We shouldn't be the 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:43.439 Silver War era. It was like in Virginia pretty heavily black. 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.000 Granted we were in the background picking up things but 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:50.200 like just put us in there. Yeah. No, Sofia couple 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.960 is like, I don't know how it's going to be 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.800 white blonde, Yes, Sofia a couple of games all the 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.000 shrug and she was like, we don't know what she 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.240 really was she like asked about Yeah, I mean she 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.240 very intentionally wrote out the only black character and yeah, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.600 she's unnoticed. She's unnoticed. Wow. Yeah, So she like had 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.440 to like a thought in her brain and she was like, oh, 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.600 I'll just get rid of that problem her. I mean, 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.440 her excuse was like, well, I don't know how to 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.280 write a black character. It's like, well, then talk to 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.839 someone do your job. But also, dummy, all you have 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:26.080 to do if they're not speaking in like the language 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.680 of the time, you just cast a black person in 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.880 that part. Do you know what I'm saying. If she 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.040 didn't know how to write slave talk like and if 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.160 nobody else is speaking the way they spoke back, then 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.360 you just write that character the way you write the 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.800 white people and then cast a black person. That's like 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.199 people like I don't know how to write women. Just 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.040 write a man and then change his name from Jason 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:49.280 to Allison, and then you have a woman congratulations, very easy. 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:54.560 Everyone is horny and tortured regards of Yeah, Sofia couple 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:58.040 is unnoticed. She's unnoticed. But let's talk about the movie. 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:02.800 Ghost Goes is a fun movie that doesn't suck the 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:07.800 way that Beguiled does. So I'll do the recap of 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:12.560 Ghost Molly Molly Jensen. Molly Jensen is married to Sam Waite. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.040 They're not married yet. Oh sorry, Oh yeah, they never 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:22.800 get married and never get married because he goes on her. Yeah, 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.000 he ghosted her the Ultimate ghost in Ultimate Ghost Her, 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.360 but then like hung around. Yeah, he's like every fucking 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.480 man of now right, Like, I don't want to be together, 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.320 but I'm going to scare you and I have to 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:37.480 follow your every Move's gonna watch you. Another man comes 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.560 in your house, I'm going to scare him away and 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.920 follow him home. I'm gonna learn how to kick a can. 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.040 Oh man, I'm mad. I think we pretty much already 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:50.840 recaped love the kick a can scene, the whole montage 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:56.400 where he learns how to be a better ghost montage. Honestly, 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.760 if someone knows how to do this, please put that 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.839 whole sequence to other with milans make a man that song, 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:07.160 I'll make a man. How do you? I would really 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:11.400 love it. There's also just like, okay, I know that 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.040 we didn't even get one sentence into the recap, but 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:18.800 there's so many fun one scene character actors in this movie. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.320 The hospital ghost who presently hangs out it waits for 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.880 other ghosts. No, he's waiting for his wife to die. Yeah? 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.760 Oh does he is that what he meant by that? Okay? 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.560 Because then he just watches a man die in the 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:35.080 surgery table in his life, Yeah, that's gonna happen, just like, 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.679 thank you so much. And then there's a scary subway ghost. 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:43.720 Oh my god, guy's incredible. One flew over the cuckoo's nest. 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:50.920 He's perfect. You think I jumped always pushed me, which 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:58.000 I guess I do anything for. Who are you? Who 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:04.839 sent you? Joe? It's my love it? Suicide again right 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.400 onto that train, but this time he's dead. I love it. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.600 Oh wait, do you want to do the really fast? 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.720 So Molly and Sam are together. They live in its nice, new, 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.640 huge fucking apartment in New York City. How do they 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.600 afford it while he's a rich banker? Fine? They're out 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.640 one night and they get mugged and he gets murdered 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.280 and they think it's just like a random killing, and 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:34.080 his spirit stays behind. He's a ghost now, but Molly 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.840 can't see him. So he goes to a psychic, Odo 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.040 May Brown played by Whoopi Goldberg, and he starts to 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.599 figure out that this murder was actually like an intentional 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:48.360 First Whoopee is a psychic who's faking it the whole time. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:52.439 So then Patrick Sweezy Sam Weed is giving like audio commentary, 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.920 like give me a brick, and then she's like, who 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.000 is it? Huh? And her sisters are like, what's happening? 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.680 And then he's like, say my name Sam Wait, Say 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.880 my name Sam wait. And then she's like then she 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:08.160 runs to a closet and then and then her sisters 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:16.200 go some queen. Her sister's there's so funny, there's no 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.319 she's talking to a white man again. We gotta called 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:23.520 the doctor. It's so funny, it's great. So he goes 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.680 to her to try to because it turns out that 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.320 she can actually like communicate with the dead, the spirits 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.640 who have who She has that crazy backstory like the 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.760 more you learn about you're just like this woman has 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:40.440 lived a very interesting way. Yeah, So He goes to 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.360 her to be like, can you communicate to Molly for me? 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.560 Because I gonna warn her that she's in danger. Because 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.840 he starts to figure out that he was set up 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:53.520 and he was murdered intentionally because his friend Carl Carl 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:58.920 was so hot. Carl Carl, I suppose he takes his 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:03.080 shirt off. He's sure. Tony Goldwin, I had like my 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.480 sexual awakening watching this movie. But then odom A Brown 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.560 goes to Molly after Molly like doesn't answer, and then 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.600 she's talking to Molly and then Sam's like, tell her 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.320 she's in danger, and she's like, I tell her my 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.760 own way. She goes Molly, you and danger girl. It's 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:22.920 another favorite line reading of mine. It's so good. It 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.680 took me a while. It took me till midway in 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.400 the movie. I'm like, oh my god, it's fits from Scandal, 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:33.200 And then I got horny. He plays the president. Yes, 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:39.920 he's the president on Scandal. Has a badass, beautiful man. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.640 I saw her once in the airport and I almost died. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.160 I don't get star struck, and I don't think I was. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.720 I was just like, I don't want to open my 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:56.120 p I just love him. Oh, God, he's great. You 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.880 did get to see him shirtless, which I forgot if 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.840 you were if you did in this movie, and I 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.640 was like, well, thank god. Because he spills the coffee 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.640 on himself because I think he's trying to seduce Smolly. 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.480 But I don't understand why he's trying to seduce Molly. 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.080 Oh no, that is gibolical. No, it's to get her 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:17.560 on his side, Odo May says anything. She's already slept 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.240 with him, so she feels an allegiance to him. That's 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.880 so fucked up. And I can't believe I've watched that 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.800 movie a hundred times and just now unders him. I 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.960 feel very dumb. No, I mean it's not super explicit, 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:34.360 but perfect. He's a manipulative That's that's what it is 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.720 to me. It's just like it. But it turns out 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.840 he is a bad guy. He's trying to He hired 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.040 money Willie Lopez to not murder Sam Weet, just steal 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.960 his bank book with like codes in it because he's 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.120 like laundering money. But then Willie Lopez couldn't get it, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.960 so Willie Lopez accidentally kills him. So then they're having 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.080 a conversation. He's like, you murdered. Hi, man, He's like, 0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:00.880 did you won't feel free? And yeah, And at first 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.240 I was feeling for for Willy Lopez, but then at 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.640 the end you find out when you see Willie Lopez 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.960 go to Hell, all the blood rises from the floor 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.560 and it's like, oh, this man has killed and that's 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.080 why he's got that bear clow tattoo and the like 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.240 it's like a tear drop tattoo. Fact. Willy Lopez. I 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.919 cannot remember his actual his like real life name, but 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:25.720 he's a comic. He was, Yes, he stand up and 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.760 he was like pretty funny. I watched a couple of clips. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:33.520 Hell yeah he did his Oh yeah he died. His 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:37.400 Wikipedia picture is just a picture of him from Ghost. Yeah. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.879 It's literally like Ricky Vellis that looks like the picture 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.680 when he's looking in the mirror when Sam we makes 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.760 it all foggy and writes boot, I literally have seen 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.440 this movie so many times there. That was one of 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.520 the things that stood out to me. That scene when 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:55.280 like Willie is like basically going through a series of 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.520 rooms before he's hit by three cars at one. But 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:01.800 they're like a practical effect in this movie are really 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.679 they're really great, Like she flying off the walls and 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.040 the and the boo and you're just like, funk, this 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.800 is like really it is a well done as movie. 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.320 It was scary. I remember like that that freaked me 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.800 out when I was a little The beginning scares me 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.800 when they because they're in the new apartment they're renovating 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:22.399 it and it's Carl, Molly and Sam and they're like 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:26.200 hitting through this thing and then like as like light happens, 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:30.359 a big noise happens, and I still I'm like, oh, 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.320 and it's not the scariest part of the movie, no, 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.560 but but I get it's like and it's kind of 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:41.199 like foreshadowing. Yeah. So he goes to Otomey is like 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.800 your dead boyfriend, Sam Weed is communicating to you through me, 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:46.680 and here's everything he's saying. And at first she doesn't 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.080 believe otomy, and then she starts to come around. She's like, hey, maybe, 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:55.199 but then meanwhile Carl is manipulating her into being like, actually, no, 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.959 you're crazy, you're not here, like go start real. And 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.400 then they still to just piece more and more things. 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:06.439 Soone they don't believe, don't believe her. And that woman said, honey, 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.840 if you go start watching me every day, I'd never 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.720 take a shower again, and then walks away and I 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:15.080 was like, you can't, you're so rude, which is technically 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.240 a scene that by our rules passes the back del Well, 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.480 she doesn't have a name's just an officer. She's not 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.639 giving a name. Well, we'll get there later. One of 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.359 the coolest things about this movie for me was the 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.679 fact that, like in most movies, it's very hard to 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.879 identify what everyone's motivation is at every point in the movie. 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.520 But for this, like every main character is super motivated 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:38.879 in a way that makes a ton of sense, Like 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:43.560 down to the fact that Patrick Swayze low key kind 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.520 of blackmails Whoopi Goldberg into continuing to work with him, 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:49.280 and she has stuff at steak, and me Moore has 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:53.040 stuff at steak because she, I mean, everyone around her 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.240 saying something different. And it would be so easy to 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:59.840 just write her characters like this lady's grieving and she 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.800 things ghost surreal, but like she's taking in all the 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.560 information and doing the best she can, just being gaslighted 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:10.119 by Tony freaking Goldwin. And like it's just every character 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:13.080 has like a very specific It's so each scene is 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:17.199 like a sketch because each character has a game and 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.560 everyone plays their game, and it's like, if it's true, 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.040 what else is true? Like all of Odomy Brown scenes 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.760 to meet our sketches, they heightened perfectly, and you blow 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:29.600 out the world and you get out, and then like 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.119 the next scene heightens what she's doing. So like when 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.520 I learned how to write sketches, I would watch Ghost 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.159 a lot because I was like, these are perfect, like 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.280 especially when they're in the bank and sam Weed is 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.720 whispering to Odomy and she's like, why are you whispering? 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:48.080 That is such a funny specific because like she remembers 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:49.800 she was talking to a ghost and has to do 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:54.920 like x Y and it's my favorite moment. Uh No, 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.399 you're right though, Like if you just isolate every scene, 0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:02.120 it's just like every scene serves a purpose, it heightens well. Yeah, 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.960 everything is just a very well crafted story. I'm kind 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.240 of upset with myself that I didn't like, revisit it 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.560 sooner and pay more change into it. It works on 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:14.639 every level, and the romance is really good and I 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.080 get it and I love that to me more sort of, 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:21.080 I mean for the most part immediately before he dies, granted, 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.880 but basically proposes to Patrick Swayzy and he's like, hey, 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.119 I don't have any jewelry on me, but I do. 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:29.320 We should get married, you know, and and and that's 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:31.640 like I want to talk about that scene. Yeah, yeah, 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.600 I think the recap is done. He's a ghost. He's 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:38.160 a ghost. He gets murdered in a billowy burgundy shirt 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.040 that he used to wear for the rest of his 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:45.320 chucked into his pants. What happens, What happens to the 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:48.760 world if he untuch, I don't know, it would explode 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:51.320 and maybe he untucked and then it magically goes back 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.040 in because that's the way he died. And I like 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:57.680 in the Santa Claus where he shaves off his beard back. 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.880 I love that this schizophrenic subway gust. It's like, your 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.879 shirts not real, your body is not real. But he 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.600 references the shirt specifically, and it's like, thank you. I've 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:11.840 been thinking about what a great outfit to die in. 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.119 For sure. Yeah, he woren't to the play. They went 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.960 to go see Macbeth Mabeth another grade. He fell asleep 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:23.320 and he was snoring, but anyway, so yeah, he finally 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:27.080 convinces to help Molly talk to the thing and they 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:29.879 figured all the thing out, and the ministery, the murder 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.959 gets solved, and then all the bad guys die and 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:38.879 then finally Sam's spirit can ascend Molly. It's amazing the 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:42.199 love inside you get to take it with you, and 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:47.760 then he goes up to heaven. I was weeping. It's 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:52.000 really touching, it really is. And there was and and 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.760 this was while I was watching the movie because I 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:58.520 love Swazie. We after all share each other soul Annway 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:02.480 and then in August eighteenth cents. But I I did 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.159 posit at one point because every time I watched the 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.560 scene between Patrick Swayze and Whoopi Goldberg, I'm like, oh, 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:09.840 for sure they were real life friends, like you can 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.360 just yes, that's how she got the job. Patrick Swayzey 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:14.639 was like, I won't do this movie unless Whoopi Goldberg 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:17.040 does this movie. Yeah. Then I read some article that 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.720 Tina Turner was like one of the original choices and 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:21.480 then the reference tinga turn in the movie. But I 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:23.800 don't know how true that is, and I didn't get that. 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.240 I started reading. I looked up and this is like 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:29.280