WEBVTT - 10/21/21 DPS Hour 3 Mike Florio 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:08.200 Sports Radio. Final hour of the program. That story coming up, Seaton, Pauli, 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:11.920 Fritzie mcleven years, Truly Dan Patrick Show. Mike Florio on 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:16.239 loan from Pro Football Talk will join us. Is Deshaun 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.040 Watson going to be traded before the trade deadline November second? 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.400 And could be traded as early as this week? So 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.279 we'll talk to Florio about that. What are the Dolphins 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:30.400 send in return? What happens to Tuatonovloa? So a lot 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:34.400 of tentacles attached to that story. Baseball last night, it 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.200 was the Red Sox being rolled by the Astros. They're 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.040 up three games to two. The Braves over the Dodgers 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.200 nine two, up three games to one. It'll be Braves 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:47.120 at the Dodgers Game five. And that's starting lineup better 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.440 produced more than two hits if you're gonna make this 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.360 a game six. Back in Atlanta, Buck's Heat. Also Clippers 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.040 and the Warriors coming up tonight. Your phone call is 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.680 always welcome eight seven seven three d P Show Email 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.480 STP at Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at dp's show. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:09.080 All right, this is the story about the Astros. Topic 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:13.280 came up some viewers apparently thought they heard whistling noises. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.759 During Houston's win over the Red Sox, A whistling sound 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.320 could be heard just before a home run was hit 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.839 off Chris Sale, giving the Astros a one nothing lead 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:29.800 in the second The whistling sound sounded like the whistling 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.839 that took place a couple of years ago the twenty 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:40.800 seventeen World Series run. Maybe a coincidence, but the whistles 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.919 sounded identical to the one that we heard before jose 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:50.840 L Twov had a home run in Game four. Oh boy, 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:56.200 I don't know. Do we have audio of the whistling there? 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.440 It's a little obvious. Oh is how what it was? 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:05.800 I don't know what I can. You know, somebody's gonna go. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.280 I heard on the Dan Patricks Show they actually had whistling. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:17.360 It sounded like, you know, the Andy Griffith Show. Oh 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.160 that's a curveball. Yeah, yeah, pull. It's like any story 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.000 that's even got a whiff of truth to it is 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.239 gonna get published because it's the Astros. Like if I 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.400 were sitting out in left field and I was a 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.119 Red Sox fan, I just shall curveball, yeah and see 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.639 if like the National media picked it up. Baseball conducted 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:37.240 an investigation and uh, you know, heard whistling, but there 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.680 was no proof that the Astros were guilty of using 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:44.760 using whistling sounds to alert their hitters as to what's coming. Oh, 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:52.160 the Astros were accused of whistling. In twenty nineteen, a 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.200 man named Rafael Garcia did a deep analysis of the 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.520 Astros game and claimed he identified a pattern of sounds. 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:04.679 Here video that Garcia put together shows different whistles. Two 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:09.440 different whistles, one that Garcia believes signaled fastball, the other 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:13.280 one to signify off speed pitches. The alleged fastball whistle 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:17.360 was a little bit longer, a flatter whistle. Raphael Garcia 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:28.120 the whistle blow. But this was at Fenway, Like, I 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.839 don't know, is there, ah, you know, some camera, there 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.560 a mole in the I'm trying to think where you 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:37.840 have somebody. Although there was an interesting light on display 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.280 in center field with the Red Sox and the Astros. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.200 The the umpires actually stopped, you know, like what's the 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.720 light up there? I don't know if it's the light? 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:52.320 You know, is there morse code here? The Astros can run, 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.280 but you can hide from it, Yes, McLevin. I mean 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.640 the amazing thing about the story is the fans were 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.200 in on catching the Astros. John Boy and all those 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.800 guys had all these clips, yeah of the sound. So 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.800 now like you gotta trust the fans, as somebody said, 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.360 or at least open your mind to it. Well, I 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.120 do I think that they were making noises signifying a 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:17.160 pitch signaling a pitch? Yes, absolutely, I do. Um it 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.000 was a little more systematic than we're used to it. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.719 Main it was too overt, and it like it was 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.159 so obvious when when you became aware of it, you're like, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.080 how did I miss this? And do I think that 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.600 this is still going on? Probably, but maybe they're actually 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:38.640 stealing the signs in a legitimate way, like no technology here. Yes, ton, 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.520 I guess if you can and I kept what I'm 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.520 saying this as a supposed Astro fan. If you're not 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.240 an Astros, if you could bang a trash can and 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.840 the noise that mix, I guess what would Why would 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.680 you not do a faint whistle sound if you would 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.680 do something that's plaining this banging on a trash can. Yeah, 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.000 it's hard to probably on a road trip to Fenway 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.720 bring in garbage cans. You know, that's part of your 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.279 you know, your checked bags. You know, when you show 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.240 up at the airport, like a couple of garbage scams 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:07.320 roll out, like who are those? Oh? Those are the Astros. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.160 You know, we take out our own garbage. We're environmentally friendly. Yes, 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.839 I love it. They have all these Harvard analytic guys 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.680 and all these advanced mathematicians and they bang our garbage can. 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.000 That's the analytics. Yeah, pull by the way, Josel Tube. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.200 Before the alleged cheating scandles, I have to say alleged anymore. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.880 But the Astros, I don't think it's proven. Well, two 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.800 guys lost their jobs, so something happened, not alleged. Yeah, 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.560 you don't. You don't get fired because of an alleged 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:38.880 cheating scandal. He was making three point five million dollars 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.440 a year before. He's now making twenty nine million a year. 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:45.520 Oh yeah, yeah, And he's gonna be a Hall of 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:49.279 Famer when it's all said and done. And it always 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:54.200 goes back to the same bottom line for me. Somebody 0:05:54.400 --> 0:06:01.920 did something at some point and was it worth it? Yeah? Yeah, 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:03.560 if you say I go from three and a half 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.080 million to twenty nine million. I'm still going to go 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.440 to the Hall of Fame. I still got a World 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:14.279 Series ring. Yeah. Was it worth the risk to Barry Bonds? 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:20.880 Was it worth the risk to Mark McGuire? I guess 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:27.360 a Rod doesn't seem to be suffering, but the fan 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.640 I felt. I don't normally feel bad for a Rod, 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.440 but I did feel a little bit bad for him. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.640 With the Red Sox fans, they were chanting, uh, you 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.880 know Ben Afflack, Hey, Rod, what's your favorite Ben Affleck movie? 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.159 And then it'd be you know, j Lo ja oh man, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:51.600 that's kind of rough, that's that stuff. Yes, could you 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:53.680 argue that for Barry Bonds it wasn't worth it because 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:55.800 he was so good without it that he kind of 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.520 ruined it. He made a lot of money, Yeah, made 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.520 a lot of money. He was making twenty million dollars 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.160 a year because he was, you know, putting up these 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.080 incredible note His baseball career was, you know, on the 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.360 decline and then all of a sudden, you know, he 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.720 was a different player. But he cheated on the test 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.800 and got a hundred. Yeah, you gotta get the eighty 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.880 five when you're now worth it? For Lance Armstrong, Yes, yes, 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.360 you don't want to cheat and get everything right now, 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.800 Like Todd wanted to get everyone every one of those right, 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.320 and therefore he cheated to get every one of them right. Yes. 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.520 One of the best things that's happened with sort of 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:36.040 just how screen resolution has developed with TV is that 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.680 now everybody takes pictures of their TV to show, like, 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.520 what's with this sweat line on this picture's forehead? Anybody 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.600 else see this dot back here? Like, and sometimes you 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.000 can tell it's so obvious that like, wait a minute, 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.800 this dude's not sweating, he's but he's got a very 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.320 shiny forehead. Yeah, it's it's a it's not a good 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.240 time to be on TV if you have any kind 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.800 of blemishes, you know, or you're you know, you're coloring 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.200 your hair or anything, because those TVs not friendly. They 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:05.800 are brutal, brutal. I had I had an auburn run 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:11.200 with my hair back with the Mothership, and uh yeah. 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.280 At the time, you're like, yeah, I think it looks 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.040 pretty good, and then all of a sudden you look 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:16.880 back and you go, Nope, it did not look good. 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:21.679 I was I was the auburn tiger back then. Yeah, 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.480 that's that's where you curse that red jean that you 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:29.160 have in your hair being irish? Damn you mom? All right, um, 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.400 we'll get to phone calls here. Let's see anything else. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.160 We got the Thursday night game. We got Bronchos and 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:39.560 the Browns. Yeah, who's excited? Doug in North Carolina is 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:43.440 excited about the Broncos and the Browns, Right, Doug? No, 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.720 I'm mad, Damn, I'm mad. I'm not excited. Okay, It's 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.599 been a while since I've called up using myself proclaimed 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.160 title as the president of the Todd Fritz Fan Club, 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.400 but this morning I have to call on behalf of 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.480 the Todd Nation. Okay. Our slogan, by the way, is 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.800 the Todd Nation. We're human numbers and short on the 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.480 letter D. But the Todd Nason wants to propose a 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.920 little bet with you. If during the broadcast tonight the 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.000 Fox shows not mentioned but actually shows the clip of 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.640 the drive, then Dan does a shower of shame. And 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.880 if they don't, Todd does the shower of shame? Are 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.920 you willing to put it up? I don't know, because 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.840 you know what, I can't help Fox program, you know 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.560 their football game? There? You know what, Doug I'll give 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:31.360 it some thought, and I appreciate somebody standing up for Fritzie. Yeah, 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.559 I mean I helped program the Mothership for eighteen years. 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.400 That's heavy lifting to tell Fox what to do yes time, 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.520 what if? Todd Nasion? And I appreciate the support was 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.160 to raise the stakes and say that they would show 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.920 the drive and the fumble, not just the drive. How 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.560 does that affect the bet? Well, I think they have 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.440 to dress this game up. It's like putting earrings on 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.120 a pig, like, you know, you got to do something. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:57.120 They got to find a hook here somewhere. Do I 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:01.640 think Fox shows that tonight? I'm gonna say they do 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.160 because I think they're desperate. I think this is desperate times, 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.760 desperate measures. Who cares if this happened back in the eighties, 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:16.000 It doesn't matter. It's it's the Browns, it's the Broncos. Yeah, 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:20.000 there's no impact, no meaning for tonight's game. But do 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.280 I think they'll do it? Yeah? Because what else are 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:35.160 you going to show? How about first quarter? First quarter? 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.560 Or do you think it's it's more obvious to show 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.840 it in the first quarter because you get to the 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:43.000 third quarter, fourth quarter. Nobody's going to care and least 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.680 you would have a drive or a fumble and then 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.040 you could hit the wayback machine. No, I'm not going 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.400 to take this bet. Sucker bet now, I'm not gonna do. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.240 You're smart to not take that bet. Thank you, Todd, 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:58.400 Thank you. You know what, maybe I should text Joe Buck. 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.760 Maybe Joe could have it in the second quarter, and 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.080 Todd takes it. Joe Buck shows up to the Rundown 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.520 meeting today. Guys, I got a couple of thoughts. Yeah, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.480 you know, I'm thinking maybe the way don't show the 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.960 drive by John Elway, we don't show the fumble by 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.240 Ernest Biner, or at least save it to look at 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.240 a mid second quarter at the earlier. Yeah, you may 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.920 need some fill time, and you know that's where you 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:29.200 bring that in a right So Doug nights try NBA 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.160 can't be happy that a certain left hander didn't suit 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.960 up for last night Sixers Pelicans game. And I'm not 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.400 talking about Ben Simmons, although I'm not sure he's a lefty. 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.840 Zion Williamson still out with a foot injury. He's a 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.520 big draw. This is a big deal. Reportedly, he weighs 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.440 three hundred pounds and having foot surgery. They don't know 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.080 when he's going to come back. That's the kind of 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:58.120 thing that is a reoccurring the possibility for a reoccurring injury. 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.440 And you know what, nobody's talking about it right now. 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.240 With Lebron, Katie and Steph getting older, it's not Claire. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.880 Where those new superstars. You know, you have Jannis, you 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.360 have Luca, Trey Young, but you know the league loves 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:15.920 to promote these new stars. But Zion Williamson, who knows 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:17.880 when he's going to be able to come back? Last 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.160 year's number one overall pick Anthony Edwards. He's dynamic. But 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:26.200 the Timberwolves aren't any good. Detroit's got Kade Cunningham and 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.360 Houston's got Jalen Green. They might be great, but are 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.240 you going to see him? The stars come out of nowhere. 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.280 Nobody thought Steph Curry would be Steph Curry. You probably 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:40.480 didn't think LaMelo Ball would be LaMelo Ball. He's fun, 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.520 he is fun, and he was great again last night. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:49.040 But Zion Williamson out and not sure of a time 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.560 frame on returning. To me, it's a big deal, big deal. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:58.240 A couple of phone calls in here Sean and Kansas 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:07.400 joins us Hi Sean, what's on your mind? Six foot one? Well, 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:11.080 I was just wondering tonight, if case Keenum sucks, how 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:16.440 long until the Browns management calls Cam Newton. Uh, if 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:20.040 if Baker was out, then they they might. But Baker's 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.920 not going to be out. He's going to continue to play, 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.520 and case keenom is he's paid as a high end backup. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.720 And I don't think they, you know, move on. The 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.199 only way that Cam gets a job he got vaccinated. 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.280 The only way he gets a job is if a 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:39.640 starter is out for a team that has, you know, 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:43.680 the possibility making the playoffs. But I don't see that 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.840 in Cleveland because they would probably still want to stay 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:51.360 with with case Keenum. And plus there was a report 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.160 that you know, the Seahawks reached out to Cam Newton 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.640 when Russell Wilson got injured. I don't want to bring 0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:00.679 Cam Newton in, you know, it's you know Smith is 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.520 fine for the next two weeks, then Russ is going 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.760 to be back. I don't want to bring Cam in 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:10.360 to then have to release Cam right just you know, 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.200 I'd want to be fair to him and give him 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.160 an opportunity. If I'm Cam, I don't want to go 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:18.520 into the Seattle situation. I'd rather want to wait until 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.160 if somebody goes down with an injury and it's for 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:25.040 the rest of the season, like Pittsburgh, then maybe Pittsburgh 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.880 would look at Cam Newton. Maybe. Yeah, club, but it's 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.920 week seven. Doesn't it take a long time to learn 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.400 the offense? Yes, and you just can't because you have 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.360 to sort of cater your offense to Cam Newton. You know, 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.400 New England did that, but they had an offseason to 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.080 be able to do that. And Gino Smith's been there 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.920 for three years. He knows the offense and he did fine. 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.840 I mean he's a backup quarterback for a reason. Ye 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:53.000 ask me. Club. They signed Jacob Easing yesterday, the Colts 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.680 cut him, remember that guy, Georgia and now Seattle, so 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.600 they're clearly not signing Cam. No, no, I don't see 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.200 that happening. All right, let's take a break. More phone 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:07.520 calls coming up. Mike Florio on the future of Deshaun Watson. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.440 It's back after this Dan Patrick show. 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But I have to send Carson Palmer's Heisman 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.399 trophy back. It was a gift from him to It 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.120 wasn't a gift, that's how you thought of it. I did, 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.840 and then I found out later that it was a loan. 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.600 That's it. This is the last day of Carson Palmer's 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.000 Heisman trophy. We were the only man cave in America 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:22.560 that had a heisman trophy in it. We had the heisman. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:27.479 Now we're getting the heisman from Carson Palmer. So you 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.080 guys want to say goodbye to it however you want 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.719 to in your own personal way. It's been a wonderful 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.560 addition here to the man cave. Yes, point, like the 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.120 Stanley Cup, can we each have it for a day 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.720 real quick? No, we don't get Stanley Cup. We had 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.240 Harold Reynolds Gold Glove. We had to give that back. 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.880 Darius Rutger's grammy had to give that back. And now 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.159 Carson Palmer wants his Heisman trophy back. Yes, do we 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.360 call other Heisman trophy back if they want to. Joe 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.280 Burrow seems to like us. He won the Heisman Gino Tretta. 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.480 He not doing anything with Eric Crouch. What's Eric Crouch 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.040 doing with this Heisman trophy? Yes? Time? Now, can we 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:06.080 paint like a DP logo on the helmet? No? No, no, 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.879 can't even goof around with this. It's got its own suitcase, 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:15.880 special suitcase, the Heisman suitcase. It turns out that these 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:21.040 institutions that give out prestigious awards don't appreciate the recipients, 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.960 naving them out. Then a second time, Yeah, that might 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.040 have something to do with it. They don't appreciate you. Ever, 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.080 when the Grammys said they found out Darius Rutgers grammy 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:30.679 was on my desk and they're like, you get that 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.920 back right now, And Darius calls me in a panic. 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.240 He goes, you got to send it overnight. I go what. 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.320 He goes, I might not win another grammy. I said, well, 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.200 that had nothing to do with me. He goes, yeah, 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:45.600 it might, so he had to ship that overnight to him. 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.919 Mike Florio pro Football Talk Live co host, joining us 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.920 on the program. Mike, good morning. How are you. I'm 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.000 doing great, Dan, how are you? I'm doing okay until 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.920 I just got the word. Carson Palmer wants his heisman back. 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:02.720 You can have mine? Yeah, you got one? Yeah? No, yeah, 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:04.480 I don't have anything. I don't have anything that you 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.320 would ever want, So you don't have to worry about that. 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:13.240 Do you have any trophies on your mantle? No? None, none. 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.760 I could say something smart or funny or cute, I 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.920 have none. I have nothing. I'm an embarrassment to everyone. 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:25.080 All right, Why is this report on Deshaun Watson feel 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.359 a little more real than what we heard maybe a 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.120 couple of weeks ago. Well, we're getting closer and closer 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.400 to the deadline for twenty twenty one, and look back 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:37.720 in late August early September. This was pointing toward a 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.600 transaction between the Texans and the Dolphins. The problem is 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.040 the Dolphins refused to blink when it comes to what 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.600 the Texans want, and the Texans refused to blink when 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.520 it comes to what the Dolphins wanted to give. So 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.480 it fell apart, but it continues to linger. It's going 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.960 to happen either after the season or it's going to 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.359 happen between now and November two at four pm Eastern. 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.119 I think what happened yesterday was an effort by the 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:03.760 Texans to get the word out to anyone else who 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.119 may want to come to the table. We know a 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.080 few weeks ago the Panthers may have not been interested, 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.520 Now maybe they are. A few weeks ago, the Broncos 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.560 wouldn't have been interested, Now maybe they are. Let's see, 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.120 Well the Eagles come to the table. Let's see, because 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.679 if others come to the table, price goes up and 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.360 it may get Stephen Ross, who badly wants to make 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:25.119 Watson in Miami. Dolphins finally say to the Texans, fine, 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:26.760 we'll give you what you want. The Texans don't want 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.639 to relent because they don't look at it as a 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:30.760 one or a two year trade. They look at us 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.679 a ten year transaction. So you shouldn't worry about what 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:35.240 you give us now, whether or not he's going to 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:37.159 be available in the short term. He's going to be 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.479 your quarterback for ten years. So give us what we 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.760 want because you're getting a franchise quarterback that's going to 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.360 change potentially the fortune of your team. But if you're 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:46.639 the Dolphins, what do you need to know before you 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.840 make this deal? And what can you know before this? 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:54.640 You know, the most important question is what happens with 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.760 the grand jury that's eventually going to hear the ten 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:01.920 criminal complaints that have been made against Watson. The twenty 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.080 two civil complaints. They're not going to be resolved, but 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:05.879 they're not nearly as troubling because you're not going to 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:08.520 go to jail over the outcome of the twenty two 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:12.199 civil complaints. The most pressing question Dan is if the 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.280 Dolphins would trade for him today and then want to 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.600 put him on the field on Sunday against the Falcons. 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.359 I mean, that's extreme, but they would want to have 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:21.960 him at practice, they'd want to have him ready to 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.480 play in games. What will the league do? We reported 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.680 several weeks back that the league has not made any 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:30.480 decision about paid leave for Deshaun Watson because it doesn't 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.880 have to. The Texans already have him on paid leave. 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.280 He's getting paid, he's not playing. The league doesn't have 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.880 to do anything. Why make a decision about paid leave 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.080 when you don't have to. But the moment he'd be 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.280 traded to a team that wants to put him on 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.600 the field, that's when the league would have to activate 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:49.400 its own process and make a decision do we put 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:51.600 him on paid leave or do we not? And I 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:55.200 think it would be naive to overlook the body blows 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.320 that the league has been taking over the Washington football 0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:01.040 team investigation, the email scandal, in anything else. How does 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:04.720 that factor into the broader pr assessment of what do 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.520 we do with Deshaun Watson now that he's in a 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:10.320 position where he's playing with these charges pending against him? Okay, 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.720 but how do you suspend somebody who doesn't have criminal 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:19.640 charges pending? Well, there's enough language in the Personal Conduct 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.800 Policy to give the NFL the discretion based upon what 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.360 they already know, based upon the investigation they've already done, 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:27.320 if they want to come to the conclusion that it's 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:31.040 possible that Deshaun Watson may have violated one or more 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.440 of the terms of the Personal Conduct Policy, they can 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.200 say you're on paid leave, and the NFL doesn't view 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:39.359 that as punishment. As wrong as that is. Football players 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:41.720 want to play football, but they don't view telling a 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:45.919 guy you get paid to not play as punishment. They 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.199