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Speaker 3: The Bills they couldn't do anything against Philly. They are

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Speaker 3: scoreless with under five and a half minutes to play

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Speaker 3: in the game. They haven't scored a point. They're losing

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Speaker 3: thirteen to nothing. They score a touchdown, they get a stop,

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Speaker 3: they get the ball back, they score another touchdown. Now,

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Speaker 3: the funny thing was they were losing thirteen nothing when

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Speaker 3: they scored their first touchdown. The Bills had their extra

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Speaker 3: point blocked. Jalen card blocked the extra point, so instead

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Speaker 3: of it being thirteen to seven Philly, it's thirteen to

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Speaker 3: six Philly with the lead at that point. So we

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Speaker 3: fast forward to the end of the game. Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: scores a touchdown. It's thirteen to twelve Philly. So you

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Speaker 3: look at the sideline, Sean McDermott stoic. He's like, let's

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Speaker 3: go for two. Let's freaking go for two. Freaking in

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Speaker 3: this guy, I'm pretty sure he's throwing freakings around out there,

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Speaker 3: and so they line up.

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Speaker 4: They're going for two.

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen has a wide open, wide open Khalil Shakir

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Speaker 3: in the back of the end zone. Pass isn't even

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Speaker 3: close to the guy, not even close.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. He just short armed it.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those deals where I don't know, your

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Speaker 3: guy is just wide open and you want to run

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Speaker 3: over there and just hand it to him, and I

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Speaker 3: don't know, you just short arm it. You just sort

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Speaker 3: of panic and he just missed a wide open throw.

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Speaker 3: Now here's the thing. You could look at this and say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, it happens. It's just one throw. This doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean that dot dot dot fill in the blank.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that they can't win it all. This

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean they're not gonna reabount ya da baby, Babby.

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Speaker 3: You could fill it in with a bunch of stuff.

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Speaker 3: You know what this really means. When you cut to

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Speaker 3: the chase and you get to the heart of the matter,

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Speaker 3: the Bills don't have the clutch gene.

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Speaker 4: They don't have it.

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Speaker 3: They lack it, and it shows up time and time again.

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Speaker 3: It just does like you can't explain it any other way.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say that the Bills are incapable.

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Speaker 3: That would be that'd be reckless, that'd be a little silly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you look at the AFC playoffs. What team

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Speaker 3: do you love? Who's the team that you love? There's

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Speaker 3: not one. There's not one team I even like, like.

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Speaker 3: I actually do like the Patriots quite a bit, but

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Speaker 3: I don't love them. They have their shortcomings, they have

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Speaker 3: their question marks, They don't have a ton of postseason experience. Right,

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Speaker 3: there are a lot of reasons to doubt the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: They've had an incredibly soft schedule, on and on and on.

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Speaker 3: But I look at their strengths a lot more often

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Speaker 3: than I hear most people saying, right, Like, a lot

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Speaker 3: of people look at the schedule. It doesn't just begin

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Speaker 3: and end there. But that's just me. I like the

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Speaker 3: Patriots quite a bit. But the point is, there isn't

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Speaker 3: one team in the entire NFL playoffs that I just love.

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Speaker 3: I really, really like the Rams as well. Don't love them,

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Speaker 3: don't love their second theory, hate their path now that

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Speaker 3: they're probably gonna be on the road for three straight games.

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Speaker 3: But the deal with the Bills, you can't say, no chance,

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Speaker 3: rush defense. It's terrible. It was thirtieth in the NFL

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Speaker 3: heading into Week seventeen. They did a pretty decent job

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Speaker 3: on Sakuon Barkley on Sunday. But I don't trust the

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Speaker 3: wide receivers. They got a bunch of number two, number

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Speaker 3: do your thing. I mean, I like their tight ends.

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Speaker 3: But they're wide receivers, dude. It's just like who they

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Speaker 3: just picked up, Brandon Cooks. Brandon Cooks was like their

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Speaker 4: It might not. It might not be all right.

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Speaker 3: There are five seconds left, we're going for two to

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Speaker 4: It might not come down to that.

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Speaker 3: Like the Bills, they're good enough where it might not

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Speaker 3: be this you know, tight sphincter moment right.

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Speaker 4: Like we're clutch.

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Speaker 3: This is a big, huge moment, you know, high leverage.

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Speaker 3: Might not come down to that. So I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to count them out. Make no mistake, I'm not counting

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Speaker 3: them out completely. But the main reason I doubt them

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Speaker 3: it's their rush defense sucks. Their wide receivers are average

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Speaker 3: at best, and they do not have the clutch gene.

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Speaker 3: They as much as highly as I think of Josh Allen,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't have the clutch gene.

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Speaker 4: That team does.

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Speaker 3: Not have the clutch gen. I don't know what it

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Speaker 3: is about Buffalo. Think about like some of these games

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Speaker 3: that they've lost. I know it's Mahomes, I know it's

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs. They had a lead at Arrowhead with thirty

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Speaker 4: I still can't believe that one there were thirteen seconds left.

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Speaker 3: Just squib kick that thing, like, run some time off

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Speaker 3: the clock, you defend one pass and you win.

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Speaker 4: I still can't believe they lost that game.

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Speaker 6: You don't think Sean McDermott's the problem.

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Speaker 4: I think he's part of the problem.

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Speaker 3: But Sean McDermott wasn't the reason that you know, like

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Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir didn't get the ball in the back of

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Speaker 3: the end zone. Josh Allen was the reason. And overtime, well,

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Speaker 3: I mean you could second guess that, but if you're

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Speaker 3: watching that play, and first off, I think you gotta

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Speaker 3: be first guessing in order to be second guessing. I

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Speaker 3: have a problem at all with them going for two.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, you're being aggressive, that's fine. And

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Speaker 3: the way the play unfolded, the Bills got exactly what

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Speaker 7: Like, yeah, it was a terrible pass. It was a

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Speaker 7: horrible pass, and you know, Josh Allen knows that obviously.

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Speaker 7: The shots on the sideline.

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Speaker 4: Sho yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, and.

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Speaker 7: I'm not talking about just this game, but my best

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Speaker 7: friend is a Bills fan, has has been since since.

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Speaker 6: He was a child.

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Speaker 7: Uh huh, and he has been calling for Sean mcdermot's

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Speaker 7: firing for like a couple of years and a few

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Speaker 7: years now, right, He's just he's just had.

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Speaker 6: It with him.

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Speaker 7: And I mean, I can't you know, you can say, yeah,

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Speaker 7: the going for Tudo to win is fine.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you know, I do think that and Ben would

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Speaker 6: hate this.

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Speaker 7: Oh, but I do think that the Bills had a

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Speaker 7: bit of momentum.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh dude.

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Speaker 3: You by the way, I want to sidetrack your your

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Speaker 3: thought here, I'll circle back to it because uh a

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Speaker 3: big Ben, you know, co host slash, you know, compadre

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Speaker 3: if you will over the years, don't let me sidetrack.

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Speaker 3: I'll circle back to it. Go ahead, finish your thought

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Speaker 3: about momentum and the Bill. They had momentum, That's right,

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Speaker 3: they did, absolutely.

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Speaker 7: I just I think that I would have liked their

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Speaker 7: chances in overtime too. But like you said, you know,

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Speaker 7: the play worked out exactly how it was supposed to.

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Speaker 6: They just missed it.

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Speaker 3: They just they missed a layup. Man, there's no way

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Speaker 3: if they're going for two, they're being aggressive. If they

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Speaker 3: could see that play open up the way it did,

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Speaker 3: and then they could be asked like, okay, you still

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Speaker 3: want to go for two? Are you banking on Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen making this throw? Or hey, mulligan time you could

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Speaker 3: just undo it and magically, through the powers of the

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Speaker 3: football gods, you could just kick the extra point go

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Speaker 3: to overtime. Which would you rather do? All day long,

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Speaker 3: they'd be like, oh, our money's on, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: You kidding me right now?

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Speaker 7: So as a as a fan, I hate like decisions

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Speaker 7: like that. Obviously, when it works out, You're like, oh, great,

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Speaker 7: that was awesome. But when I'm watching my team and they,

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Speaker 7: you know, come back from behind and they score touchdown

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Speaker 7: to potentially tie the game and they decided to go

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Speaker 7: for two, I'm just like a nervous wreck. I would

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Speaker 7: way rather just breathe and watch some more football.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, hey listen. You can second guess this stuff

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Speaker 3: all day. You could sit here and be like, look,

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Speaker 3: they are legitimate arguments. It's Philly didn't complete one pass

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Speaker 3: in the second half, right right. Jalen Hurts was oh

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Speaker 3: for seven, he was oh for the second half. But

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with him going for two and

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Speaker 3: it was wide open. That is strictly a Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: bricked layup, like he didn't even draw iron right, He's

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Speaker 3: going in for a finger roll and somehow he bricked

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Speaker 3: didn't touch rim, it didn't touch anything. He just bricked

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Speaker 3: That's how bad it was. That was a Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: miss And listen, and I get it, and Coop going

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Speaker 3: back to your diehard you know your friend who's a

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Speaker 3: diehard Bills fan. I get how you're not in love

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Speaker 3: with Sean McDermott. But the truth is he's the easy

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Speaker 3: fall guy.

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Speaker 4: He really like.

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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott is not the reason that the rush defense sucks.

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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott is not the reason that their wide receivers

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Speaker 3: are just a bunch of guys. That's a Brandon Bean issue.

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Speaker 3: That's the GM. He's the guy responsible for the roster.

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Speaker 3: It's not a Sean McDermott issue. That Josh Allen, the

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Speaker 3: reigning MVP, missed an absolute layup wide open receiver. The

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Speaker 3: ball's not even close to him. None of those things

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Speaker 3: are Sean McDermott's fault. Yet there are a lot of

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Speaker 3: fans that want to act like it is. And listen,

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Speaker 3: I get if you want to sit here and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: look man, we've tried it for a number of years,

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Speaker 3: just hasn't worked. It's time to try something new. That's fine,

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Speaker 3: that's fine, but aim Sean McDermott for that loss. That's

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Speaker 3: that's ridiculous. If anybody's doing that, it's just silly. That's

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen just blowing it and I hey, raining MVP

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Speaker 4: I think it's even worse. Like the fan mentality. I

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Speaker 4: know a lot of Bills fans will think like this.

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Speaker 3: It's like, well, it's Josh Allen, man, Like, we can't

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Speaker 3: really crack on Josh Allen too hard. He's the reason

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Speaker 3: why we're good, Like yeah, and he's also the reason

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Speaker 3: you lost that game. Okay, that's the reality. It's not

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Speaker 3: a Sean McDermott thing. It was a Josh Allen thing

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Speaker 3: against the Bills in Week seventeen specifically, that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: And it makes it even worse because he's so talented,

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Speaker 3: We're all about the ball over here, and I'm going

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Speaker 3: Week eighteen, and that would be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 3: Now here's the thing. They are facing the Carolina Panther

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Speaker 4: You can feel it, right. It'd be like, you know

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Speaker 3: You could lay, wait, what if SUCKI Carolina shows up?

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Speaker 3: personal for a second. Okay, we'll get to the calls.

433
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Speaker 3: When I was married, it was it was very stressful,

434
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Speaker 3: like we got divorced for a reason, and like listen,

435
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Speaker 3: I'm not putting all this on my ex. I certainly

436
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: had fall. I made a ton of mistakes myself. But

437
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Speaker 3: when we split up and we went our separate ways,

438
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Speaker 3: I didn't realize like I felt this like stress all

439
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Speaker 3: throughout my body. I felt this stress in my chest,

440
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Speaker 3: you know. And then we went our separate ways, and

441
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Speaker 3: it slowly, like a couple of days go by, a

442
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Speaker 3: couple more days, a couple more days, a couple of.

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Speaker 4: Weeks, and it's like it felt like so someone that was.

444
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Speaker 3: Standing on me was no longer standing on me, you

445
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Speaker 3: know what I mean. It was just kind of like,

446
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it was it was like the Gregorian

447
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: chant or the Hallelujah. It was that Oh it was beauty.

448
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: I was like, oh wow, I can breathe. It's like

449
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Speaker 3: Tampa feels how I felt before the split, right, like

450
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Speaker 3: they feel like the emotional toll of the cagey I'm losing.

451
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Speaker 4: It's killing them.

452
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Speaker 3: They are near their their sports deathbed. They're near their

453
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five NFL season deathbed, and it's not gonna

454
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Speaker 3: take much to just kick them off the edge. I

455
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Speaker 3: think Carolina is gonna do it, man, I do I

456
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Speaker 3: think Carolina is gonna win the division. I just think

457
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Speaker 3: Tampa they're just a dead team walking now. Watch them

458
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Speaker 3: win by seventeen or couldn't put everything together and go ballistic.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think. I don't see it.

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Speaker 4: I'm betting against them, firmly betting against them.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller

462
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Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I can already see that this segment

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Speaker 3: is probably going to result in verbal fisticuffs. I can see.

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Speaker 3: I can see it clear as day. It's just right

466
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Speaker 3: over right over the horizon, right there, right over you know,

467
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Speaker 3: like you get up, you know, right around right around

468
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Speaker 3: the tree, in between the shrubs. Verbal fisticuffs right around

469
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Speaker 3: the corner here between myself and Loraina the tech Queen. No,

470
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Speaker 3: I'm kidding it, me and Justin Cooper. That's right, we

471
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Speaker 3: can we get shadow box. I don't care. I'm not scared.

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Speaker 3: What do you got? No, I'm just kidding. It's going

473
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Speaker 3: to be me and Coop here, because Coop he is

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Speaker 3: going to come after the New England Patriots. And I

475
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Speaker 3: just want to tell you, I want to warn you,

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Speaker 3: militia it's going to be a bad take, a bad take,

477
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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna pull some sports radio jiu jitsu.

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Speaker 6: Don't really a take. It's a fact.

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Speaker 4: It is a fact. But you know what it is.

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Speaker 3: It is a completely and utterly misleading fact. You're right, Coop,

481
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: it's not it is a fact. I saw this tweet.

482
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Speaker 3: One of my buddies sent it to me, and it's

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Speaker 3: exactly what Coop is talking about. So, as of today,

484
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Speaker 3: after week seventeen, the Patriots have one win against the

485
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Speaker 3: team with the winning record. The New York Giants have

486
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Speaker 3: two wins against teams with winning records. So it's like,

487
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Speaker 3: oh wow, look at the Patriots. They're just beaten up

488
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Speaker 3: on the sad pathetic it is. It's one of the

489
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Speaker 3: it's like the easiest schedule in the last twenty five years.

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Speaker 4: They've beaten up on a bunch of bad teams.

491
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Speaker 3: But but but that doesn't mean they're incapable of doing anything.

492
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Speaker 3: Like listen, there are so many things to look at here.

493
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Speaker 3: Don't just look at man, they've only beaten one team

494
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Speaker 3: with the winning record while they're fools gold. I think

495
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Speaker 3: that's a bad take because look at what they have.

496
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Speaker 3: They've got a pretty good defense, They've got a pretty

497
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Speaker 3: good head coach and Mike Rable. They've got a really

498
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Speaker 3: good quarterback in Drake May. And this is where that

499
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Speaker 3: stat is totally misleading. If you look at what last

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Speaker 3: week at the Ravens, they're losing by eleven points in

501
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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. If they lose this game, the division

502
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Speaker 3: is is up for grabs. The division is in peril

503
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Speaker 3: with the Buffalo Bills right on their heels and they

504
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Speaker 3: on the road at Baltimore in primetime. Have the Giants

505
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: played primetime games this season like they I think they

506
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: played the Chiefs earlier in They're not playing primetime games.

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Speaker 4: They're like a one pm, you know dream, They're playing

508
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Speaker 4: at one day.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they broke out and played at four to twenty

510
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Speaker 3: five Eastern time this past Sunday. Whoa man, that was

511
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Speaker 3: about as primetime as it gets. For the Giants going

512
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Speaker 3: to Baltimore in primetime, eleven point deficit have to execute

513
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Speaker 3: with great precision, and they did. And now that's just

514
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Speaker 3: chalked up to well, Baltimore doesn't have a winning record

515
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Speaker 3: right now, that doesn't even really count.

516
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Speaker 4: It doesn't count. Are you kidding me?

517
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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous? That's why you got to read between the

518
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 3: lines sometimes dig deeper than just the quote unquote facts,

519
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: Like that's a fact for you. They beat a Ravens

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Speaker 3: them in primetime on the road, when dude, that crowd

521
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: is into it. You know, the momentum is clearly on

522
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Speaker 3: Baltimore's side. And guess what they did. They seized it

523
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Speaker 3: right back and they took that game.

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Speaker 4: That matters.

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Speaker 3: They beat the Bills on the road, that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: That's not a good win earlier on the that's their

527
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Speaker 3: there's their one win.

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Speaker 4: That's just crazy to me. So to just overlook the

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Speaker 4: strengths that they have.

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Speaker 3: They've got a legitimate MVP at quarterback, good head coach,

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Speaker 3: good defense, they got a lot to work with.

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Speaker 4: I like the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of value as far as

534
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Speaker 3: betting on the Patriots come playoff time, because there are

535
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Speaker 3: some people that will just see a tweet and be like.

536
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Speaker 4: Got one team.

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Speaker 3: We got one win against the one team with a

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Speaker 3: winning record. I mean, I can't wait to fade this team. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, knock yourself out. I think they're live. I

540
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Speaker 3: think they're absolutely live in the playoffs. I would be

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Speaker 3: surprised if they're in the Super Bowl. I said it,

542
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Speaker 3: look at the rest of the AFC. Who do you love?

543
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: Who do you love in the AFC? I don't love anybody.

544
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: So to like act like the Patriots have what no

545
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: shot to do anything, that's crazy. Odds are they're not

546
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Speaker 3: going to make the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I know that.

548
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Speaker 3: But to talk about them as if they have no

549
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Speaker 3: chains just because they've had an incredibly favorable schedule, that's

550
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: crazy talk. That's insanity right there. So now I don't

551
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Speaker 3: buy any of that stuff. They beat a couple of

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Speaker 3: teams that are five hundred, you know, that's not beating

553
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Speaker 3: up on all. These teams are just you know, picking

554
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Speaker 3: in the top five, top ten of the NFL draft,

555
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Speaker 3: and that's it.

556
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Speaker 4: That's not it.

557
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: Like the Ravens are a five hundred team. The Panthers

558
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: are a five hundred team. To look at the Panthers,

559
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: the Panthers are psychotic. By the way, the Panthers beat

560
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Speaker 3: the Rams. The Panthers beat.

561
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Speaker 4: The Packers like those are they beat. The Rams were.

562
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Speaker 3: At the time the consensus best team in the NFL.

563
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: The Rams went into Carolina and lost, and then Carolina

564
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Speaker 3: got swept by the Saints. They got crushed by the Bills.

565
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: They got crushed by the Patriots. The Patriots beat them

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Speaker 3: forty two to thirteen, and we're just gonna act like

567
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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter because they're not. They don't have a

568
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: winning record, Like that's a manufactured ooh oh, this is

569
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Speaker 3: gonna get some clicks type stat.

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Speaker 4: That's what it is. There's way more to that stat

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Speaker 4: than meets the eye.

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Speaker 7: But would you be surprised if any one of the

573
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Speaker 7: playoff teams, potential AFC playoff teams beat them in the

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Speaker 7: first round.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no, the Texans have a real defense. I

576
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: don't like the Texans offensive line. But if that's the matchup,

577
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Speaker 3: if that's let's say it's the two to seven matchup,

578
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Speaker 3: and Houston goes into fox Borough and wins, I would

579
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Speaker 3: be surprised at all, not at all. They've got a

580
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: nasty defense, and I don't love the Patriots tackles. Listen,

581
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: styles make fights, and look, they don't have the same

582
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Speaker 3: playoff experience, even the Texans. They were in the playoffs

583
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Speaker 3: last season, right, they beat the Chargers, they picked off

584
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Speaker 3: Herbert four times, they went into Arrowhead, they laid a

585
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: close game against the Chiefs, like that's real playoff experience

586
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: that matters. I would be surprised at all if the

587
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Speaker 3: Texans went in there and beat them and the Patriots

588
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: are won and done.

589
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Speaker 7: I think we're probably looking at Chargers Patriots, right if

590
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Speaker 7: I mean assuming the right right, the Broncos could.

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Speaker 3: Be I mean, listen, it could be Bills Patriots. That's

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Speaker 3: what it is right now, right speak. I mean, can

593
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Speaker 3: you see the Bills going in there again and you know,

594
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Speaker 3: taking down the Patriots. Of course, of course you could

595
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Speaker 3: see that happening. Could I see the opposite happening?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I could see that too.

598
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Speaker 3: The Patriots got a little uh, you know, less aggressive.

599
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Speaker 3: They got up twenty one to nothing, they were still up.

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Speaker 3: I was at twenty four to seven, I think at halftime,

601
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Speaker 3: and man, the Bills came out and they smacked them around.

602
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: The Patriots just didn't have that same edge in the

603
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Speaker 3: second half, and they're trying to not the clock instead

604
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Speaker 3: of like playing the game. So hey, maybe they learned

605
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Speaker 3: some lessons from that loss. But neither would surprise me.

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Speaker 4: Coop.

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Speaker 3: If that's the matchup Patriots Bills the Patriots are hosting

608
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Speaker 3: in Foxborough, I wouldn't be a surprised.

609
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Speaker 4: If either team won. I really wouldn't you.

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Speaker 6: No, I mean definitely not.

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Speaker 7: I I don't know if I was betting that game.

612
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Speaker 7: I don't know if I if.

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Speaker 3: I take, probably take the Bills. Well, that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: The Bills would be a slight favorite. I think I

615
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Speaker 3: think the Bills would have enough so I do. I

616
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Speaker 3: think the Bills would have enough backing from the betting

617
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Speaker 3: community where yeah, I think they would be small favorites.

618
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Speaker 3: I think it'd be close to a pick them. But

619
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Speaker 3: I bet the Bills would probably be like a one

620
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Speaker 3: point favorite on the road something like that.

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Speaker 4: I think they would.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you might be right.

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Speaker 7: I just it's it's wild to me because you you

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Speaker 7: got to imagine that. I mean, Drake May is probably

625
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Speaker 7: winning MVP, right, I.

626
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Speaker 4: Mean I think it's Stafford. I think Stafford gets it

627
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Speaker 4: this season.

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Speaker 6: Even after that that loss.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 3: But hey, listen, Drake May's live. You know, they're they're

631
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Speaker 3: pretty close. So it's yeah, it could be a good

632
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: little battle who gets it. I like Drake May a lot.

633
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: Drake May's got the goods. He's a very good quarterback.

634
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: So like, look, man, I wouldn't just look at the schedule,

635
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: and that's like, I don't want to change the subject completely,

636
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: but I'm hearing a lot of that. With college football.

637
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 3: We've got the College Football Playoff right around the corner.

638
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: The best matchup of the quarterfinals. I think it's the

639
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: shortest point spread. It's Oregon against Texas Tech. And there

640
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: are a lot of people that are like, Oregon played

641
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Speaker 3: a much tougher schedule, Like Oregon's going to be the

642
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: best team that Texas Tech faces easily, and it's like, look,

643
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Speaker 3: that's true, but that doesn't mean Texas Tech can't win

644
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: that game. You know, like they got a really good

645
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: defensive line, really good front seven offense. When firing in

646
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: all cylinders is nasty, they're a wagon. Texas Tech is tough.

647
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: So I think we're doing that with the Patriots, Like,

648
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: oh man, look at their easy schedule. It's okay, all right,

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Speaker 3: So they're incapable. They can't beat the Bills at home.

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Speaker 3: They can't beat the Chargers.

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Speaker 6: Just can't.

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Speaker 4: Can't do it.

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Speaker 3: Come on like that. It goes beyond the schedule, man,

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Speaker 3: it just does. You can't have an MVP caliber quarterback,

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Speaker 3: a good head coach, a good defense and just be

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Speaker 3: incapable of doing anything come playoff time because they've had

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Speaker 3: a cake schedule, and it's a bad logic, it's a

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Speaker 3: bad take. So I like the Patriots, man. I think

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Speaker 3: that a lot of people are selling the Patriots short.

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Speaker 4: That is what I think