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It starts now. 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: We'll start the noise here with uh Pam listens on 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: k E and I up and Anchorage, Alaska. I love 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: our Alaska contingent CEE. 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: See hit it, Hey, Buck. 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 4: If Clay is going to tease you about your TUTSI 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 4: roll dance and not expecting to see that, you could 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 4: always counter with, well, I'm sure the construction workers weren't 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: expecting to see you streak across your room and offer 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: the suggestion Coach Hearth does sell men's backroes. 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: Clay, there are you? 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Are you a robe guy? 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Our friend Jesse Kelly has been tweeting about how he's 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: become a robe guy now and I feel like a 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: robe is more like a lifestyle, like it's for the spa. 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: If you start walking around your house in a robe. 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Are you ever gonna do anything? 27 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, the hotels always have robes. No, I'm not a 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: robe guy. I don't think I've ever really kind of 29 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: walked around in a robe. Certainly, Yeah, I guess if 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: you're at a spa or something like that, maybe it 31 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: makes sense. But not a not a big time road guy. 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: By the way, We've got a good call Chip and Brandon, Florida. 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: We were talking about culture, and I think we could 34 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: have some more fun with this when we come back 35 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: because a lot of these ring doorbell cameras. I get it, 36 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: it's a relatively new thing that we can always see. 37 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: But I would tie this in with what do they 38 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: call him? Porch pirates, people who are constantly stealing the 39 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: packages that are delivered. Probably a lot of you out 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: there in neighborhoods have seen some of these videos. People say, hey, 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: do you know who this person is? They're waiting, they're 42 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: following the Amazon truck or the ups or whatever it is, 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: and they're grabbing things. This is a positive story. Chip 44 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 3: in Brandon, Florida tell us your story. 45 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 5: Yes, I've accidentally left my wallet in a Sam's Club 46 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 5: and somebody turned it in. It had four hundred dollars 47 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 5: cash in it, and when they were when I went 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 5: down there the next day, all the cash is in it. 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 5: I think a red state you have much better chance 50 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 5: of having people do the right thing than in a 51 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 5: blue So. 52 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: This is great. 53 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: You were just at a Sam's Club store and you 54 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: just accidentally forgot your wallet and somebody turned it in 55 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: and all the money was still in it. Correct, that's awesome, 56 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: Thank you. I do think red states tend to have, 57 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: as a general rule, better cultures than blue states when 58 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: it comes to and look states is tough because I 59 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: just mentioned there, even whatever state you're in, forty percent 60 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: of people voted Trump. Even if you're in a blue state, 61 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: And even if you're in a red state, around forty 62 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: percent of people voted Kamala. So you're still talking about 63 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: in a group of ten people, there's a huge substantial 64 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: percentage that are going to agree with you no matter what. 65 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: But I do think the culture of uh what, look 66 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: are you more likely play? 67 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: It would be fascinating to see an experiment they used 68 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: to do things like this of a wallet with you know, 69 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars bill peeking out of it, left on 70 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: a New York City subway and someone operating a lost 71 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: and found counter, you know, within eyesight? How many people, 72 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: how many people turn it in? How many people take 73 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: one hundred? 74 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: It would be and it would vote for it would 75 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: be an interesting dynamic to then cross the tab it. 76 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: You know, Uh, how do they vote in elections? Are 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: they or are they not religious? What would the percentages show? 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: Who are the most likely to return? Who are the 79 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: least likely? But again to your point, high high trust 80 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: society's low trust society. 81 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 6: Sunday hang with Clay and buck. 82 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: Ken who listens in Lincoln, Nebraska d D on the 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: talk back hit It. 84 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 7: Don't be hating on people who sports the robe. Yes, 85 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 7: it is a lifestyle. I'm retiring. Well, I'm not a 86 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 7: retiring pastor. I'm still a pastor, but I'm about to retire. 87 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 7: I'm an avid fly fisherman, have built several poles, so 88 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 7: don't be hating. 89 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 5: Good show. 90 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 7: I have a blessed one. 91 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: Thank you. You have a blessed one too. I don't 92 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: usually think of robe guys as also fly fishermen, but 93 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: that is. 94 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 3: A bit of a that is a bit of an upset, 95 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 3: like if he had been like and I'm also into 96 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: smoking pot and uh and uh, you know, wearing Birkenstocks, orgies, 97 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: smoking pot and orgies. That's kind of what I think 98 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: about for robe guy. 99 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: So I've also I've noticed something, probably because of all 100 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: the lot of all the young people walking around trick 101 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: or treating, there is this is very unk of me, 102 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: which is how you wearing an unk T shirt. I 103 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: am Ali, got me an unk T shirtunk and owning it. 104 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 1: So that's a that the youth uses. But I've noticed 105 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: something that the kids, like thirteen to sixteen, they're wearing 106 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: Crocs un ironically, Oh yeah, the shoe was popular, Crocs. 107 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: And their hairstyle is this like poofy in the front 108 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: thing like it's like unkempt, kind of like like wavy curly. 109 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. 110 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: This is the hairstyle. Boy, I think my boys have this. 111 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: I mean exactly what you're saying. 112 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: If you had them come over to the camera, I 113 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: can tell you. But I can tell you they're all 114 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: these kids walking around with the same hair. It's a 115 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: very unique hairstyle. 116 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 3: Yes, and that their rocket crocs are and have been 117 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 3: for several years now, insanely popular with young kids, like 118 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: teenage teenage kids. I thought you were gonna say, well, 119 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: hold on, let's play Renee in Kentucky who wanted to 120 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: react to the idea of all this candy being stolen. 121 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 8: If my son had ever jumped a bowl of candy 122 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 8: and his bag, I would have busted his ass on 123 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 8: the spot. He would have had to apologize as well 124 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 8: as do community service work for that neighbor. That's how 125 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 8: that goes. Anyone else that would do something different is 126 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 8: low class. 127 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: Nay, you are. You are someone who is holding a 128 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: line on civilization and I appreciate you. 129 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: Renee is very civilized. Buck, I love that. 130 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: And yeah, if you happen to see your kid on 131 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 3: one of those viral videos, I think you should make 132 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: a video of the kid apologizing and make him go 133 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: knock on the door and buy candy, maybe do some 134 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: yard work to make up for the candy that he took. 135 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 6: Sunday Drop with Clay and Buck. 136 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: Very important news that Claire reminded me of that Kim Kardashian, 137 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: despite trying, did not pass the California bar exam. I 138 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: believe she's tried a few times at this point but 139 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: has has not had passed it. So we're hoping, we're 140 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: pulling for Kim to pass the bar exam. I think 141 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: she isn't she worth a billion dollars, so this really 142 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: is just like a personal mountain that she is trying 143 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: to climb. 144 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: We'll get into this, but yes, she is. 145 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: She definitely does not need the money that might come 146 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: from practicing law in any way. 147 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: So that's not obviously an important story, but it's one 148 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: of those stories that people are going to be talking about. 149 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: So I just thought i'd let you know she has 150 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: failed the bar exam three times already, but she's gonna 151 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: keep going. And you know what Clay a wise man 152 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: once said to me, Persistence is the key. Persistence is 153 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: the key, very very important. 154 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: A lot of people are making fun of her, and 155 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: I'll just say this, I think we should encourage people 156 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 3: to try. 157 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: To do hard things. 158 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: And it would be very easy, to your point, Buck, 159 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: when you become a billionaire, to just say, hey, I've 160 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: got everything I could possibly want. I'm not going to 161 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: try to push myself any further. And she decided she 162 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: wanted to try to become a lawyer, and she is 163 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: attempting to do it. I would point out who was 164 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: it that failed the bar a ton of times? 165 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: JFK. Junior, I think, if I remember correctly. 166 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well no one thought the JFK. Junior was 167 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: going to be a rocket scientist, so that's not surprising 168 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: for me. 169 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: But I mean he went straight to law school. I 170 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: think they led him into Columbia or Harvard or whatever 171 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: the heck they did, completely irrelevant. They let him in 172 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: because of his last name. 173 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: Yes, he could be illiterate as a Kennedy, and they 174 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: would have led him into Harvard law school. 175 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: And he continues to fail. 176 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 3: So anyway, Well, I do think everybody's trying to poke 177 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: fun at her, but I give her credit for being 178 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: willing to try to do something super hard when she 179 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: could just chill and have an easy life. 180 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's important to always try 181 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: to work on yourself and to be willing to embrace 182 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: the humility that must come with that. So I'm actually 183 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: with you, I'm far less. I'm not you know, Oh 184 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: my gosh, how could she fail the bar exam? Good 185 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: for Kim Kardashian for trying and hopefully at some point 186 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: she'll pass. On the other side of the gratitude scale, yes, 187 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: on the other side of that scale, we have the 188 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: former First Lady Michelle Obama, who has a remarkable talent 189 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: for seeming just perpetually ungrateful and full of grievance, which 190 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: for somebody who has who was the First Lady for 191 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: eight years. I don't even know how many magazine covers 192 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: has her pick of which billionaires three hundred million dollar 193 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: yacht she chooses to vacation with her daughters on. I 194 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: don't know if you could find all in a more 195 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: privileged and elitist person on the planet, it would be 196 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: very hard, right, because you know, yeah, there's like like 197 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is worth a ton of money, but Elon 198 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: Musk is like sleeping on the floor of the Tesla 199 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: factory building. All this stuff big cost to his personal life. 200 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: Some people hate him, obviously, the allied with Trump Michelle 201 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: Obama everywhere should go. She is worshiped, worshiped by elite society, 202 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: and yet you when she talks about things like, for example, 203 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: how she needed to have a celebrity style glam team 204 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: when she was in the White House. This is how 205 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: she speaks of at play eight, I. 206 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 6: Didn't really have that choices. 207 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 9: Firstly, every day, every time I was up as we 208 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 9: called it, you know, I was up for the public, yes, 209 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 9: and the days were long, so as you mentioned, to 210 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 9: save time, you know, I know, having a glam team 211 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 9: a trifecta. It feels like a luxury, but it was 212 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 9: a time's time, this necessity. There's absolutely no way that 213 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 9: I would be able to do my hair and make 214 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 9: up and have clothes ready that fit, you know, because 215 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 9: where is the woman that can live off the rack? 216 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: I know a lot of women who live off the rack, 217 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: Ete Clay, I know a lot. 218 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: Actually, Michelle Obama might be the person who should give 219 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: the country more gratitude than anyone that has the least 220 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: gratitude of anyone in public eye that I can see. 221 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 3: And every time she speaks, I like her less. And 222 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm unique in that she has been coddled, 223 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 3: She's been protected, she has been told that she is 224 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: incredibly accomplished and a uniquely transcendent figure, such that she 225 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: decided that she needed to start her own podcast. I 226 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: actually feel sorry for Barack Obama for having to deal 227 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: with her and let me explain why that is. 228 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: I went off. 229 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: I might have gone off more on this than almost 230 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: anybody in the country. When she wasn't willing to show 231 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: up for Jimmy Carter's funeral, to me, it was such 232 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: a personal slap in the face to every American. 233 00:11:58,960 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 5: Look. 234 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 3: I understand you don't want to always have to go 235 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: to public events, but when you run for president of 236 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: the United States, or when you are married to the 237 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: president of the United States, there are certain moments that 238 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: demand to me that you show up and show the 239 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 3: least semblance of respect for the country that you could. 240 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton was at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. The 241 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: Bushes were at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. Certainly Trump 242 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: and Milania were there. It doesn't take a lot to 243 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: be willing to give a few hours of your time 244 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: to get on a private jet and fly somewhere, get off, 245 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: be respectful for a couple of hours. She didn't show 246 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: up for the inauguration of Trump Barack Obama. Did I 247 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: give him credit for that? She doesn't seem like a 248 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: person that would be fun to spend time with. Buck 249 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: and I just I look at this and instead of saying, hey, boy. 250 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: You know I'm from I think the South side of Chicago, 251 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken. I grew up and I got 252 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: to be the first lady of the United States. I 253 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: married the President. What is an incredible story that is 254 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: that you can be a kid from the south side 255 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 3: of Chicago and you can grow up to do this, right. 256 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you know who's actually leaned into that, because 257 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: I think he's also from the South side of Chicago. 258 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: The Pope, the American Pope Leo. He's talked. 259 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 3: I've seen quite a lot about how amazing it is 260 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: that a kid who grew up on the South side 261 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: of Chicago could ascend to become the Pope. I just 262 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: every time Michelle Obama speaks, I think to myself, what 263 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: a be careful here, you might need to turn on 264 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: the radio. 265 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: What a bitch? 266 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: What an ungrateful bitch. Michelle Obama is unique among all 267 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 3: of the first ladies of different political parties. All she 268 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: does is wine and talk like, Hey, well, I have 269 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: to have a glam squad or I'm not even gonna 270 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: travel with my uh with my wardrobe people, Oh I don't. 271 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: I don't wear a lot of things off the rack. 272 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: I wear everything off the rack. I know a lot 273 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: of women that wear things off the rack. Now, you 274 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: could come after me, because I shouldn't, because you should say, oh, 275 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: you should have that better tailored. Oh why are your 276 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: pants drag Why are your sleeves too long? Those are criticisms. 277 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: The answer is because I just buy things off the 278 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: rack and I'm not a diva, and I just I 279 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: don't get it. I don't get it. Every time she 280 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: speaks buck, I just think to myself, boy, she had 281 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: an opportunity. She reminds me of the US women's soccer team. 282 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of this. I don't think 283 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: it's just unique to her for left winging people. Do 284 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: you remember when Meghan Rappino they were playing in the 285 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: World Cup and she just chose that opportunity to take 286 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: shots at President Trump said I'm not gonna go to 287 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: the White House, I'm not gonna visit, and then she 288 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: insulted him with expletives. And I'm thinking to myself, you 289 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: were on the national stage for young women everywhere around 290 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: the world who aspire to grow up and be great 291 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: soccer players like you. 292 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: How about a scintilla. 293 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: Of gratitude for the fact that you have this opportunity 294 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: and this left wing, and I think it's primarily women, honestly, 295 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: which is the foundation of the Democrat Party. This left wing, hectoring, ungrateful, 296 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: baseline bitchiness that is the Democrat Party. 297 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: Buck. I think it's why men are done with them. 298 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: Every man out there is like, yeah, I've had to 299 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: deal with that in my life. It's like every single 300 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: Democrat woman has got her finger out and she's lecturing 301 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: you all day long. And I think a lot of 302 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: women out there listening to us right now are nodding along. 303 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: It's like the whole party is just the most annoying 304 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: person at your job who's lecturing you about something that 305 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: she doesn't like that really isn't anything wrong at all. 306 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: Nothing has changed, by the way, in the apparent attitude 307 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: that Michelle Obama formerly Michelle Robinson has, you can easily 308 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: go find her Princeton thesis, which I read back in 309 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: the U You told me it was just atrocious administration. 310 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: It is atrocious. It is absolutely brutal reading in terms 311 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: of you're like, what is this, But it's Princeton educated 312 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: blacks and the black community is her? 313 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: What's her thesis? 314 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Does anyone want to guess what it's about, the isolation 315 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: and the feelings of subtle racism you deal with as 316 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: a black student at Princeton. She wrote her thesis on 317 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: this her entire like her the peak, the pinnacle of 318 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: her academic life as an undergraduate, was to write a 319 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: one hundred page whine about how hard it was to 320 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: be black at Princeton, which, by the way, this was 321 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: in the heyday of affirmative action. She probably got about 322 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: three hundred points worth of assistance on in terms of 323 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: SAT comparison, at least two hundred plus points to get 324 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: into Princeton. 325 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: So the reason she could whine about being black at 326 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 3: Princeton is because she was black at Princeton, and. 327 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: Being black and applying to Princeton at that time was 328 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: a particular privilege in the admissions process. So yes, that 329 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: is the great irony of this. Michelle Obama got into 330 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: Princeton in large part because she was a black woman, 331 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: and then she wrote a thesis about a heart it 332 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: was to be a black woman at Princeton, and that 333 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: kind of sums up the attitude. 334 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: I also think it sums up the legacy media in general. 335 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: The protect you see the I don't know that we 336 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 3: played this clip. I think it was last week. It 337 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: was going viral. She was saying something like, oh, our 338 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: family never got the grace that other families got, and 339 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 3: I saw that clip. Maybe we can grab it before 340 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: we finished the hour, and I'm sorry, Buck. 341 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: Do you remember, as I do, the Bush daughters. 342 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: Getting destroyed by national media for relatively minor teenager related 343 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: infractions as if they were modern day you know, felons 344 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 3: of an enormous magnitude. They got treated basically the same 345 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: as Hunter. And by the way, how about the Bidens. 346 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 3: Now they did a lot, but Hunter and all the 347 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: other Biden kids got incredible negative media attention. 348 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: And Chelsea back in the day. 349 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 3: I don't remember everybody bending over backwards to treat Chelsea 350 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: really well. And so you look at all the other kids, 351 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 3: I would say that the Obamas and their daughters got treated. 352 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: More fairly than any children of. 353 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: The president have, regardless of political party, in my whole life. 354 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: And we know we've had all these guys on the program. 355 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: Do you think the Trumps have been treated fairly like 356 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: the kids? I'm not talking about Trump himself. They would 357 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: put them in prison if they could, for sure, and 358 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: they haven't done anything wrong. 359 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: Yes, all true. Well, the Democrats tried to be clear. 360 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: They would It's not just they would desire to put 361 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: Trump found members in prison. They made moves to do so. 362 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: Oh totally. 363 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: Other people are gonna say, oh, well Hunter, Yeah, Hunter 364 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 3: committed about one hundred felonies on his laptop. If you 365 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 3: just click and went and looked through any of Hunter's laptop, 366 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: he got insanely favorable treatment. 367 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: I guess maybe it was all just Russian disinformation. Buck 368 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: Sexton here the entire Clay and Buck Show wish you 369 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: and your family a warm Christmas season and a joyful 370 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: New Year. 371 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 6: Sundays with Clay and Buck. 372 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: A Balls reader, Let's hear it here Donna Augustine. 373 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 6: She was at the beginning of the shutdown. There were 374 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 6: two goals, both of which. 375 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: I said, No, I don't know what that was. Talkback 376 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: AA Donna in Saint Augustine, Florida. She's a Balls fan 377 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: and we wanted to hear from Donna. 378 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 10: I've been reading the book Balls by Clay Travis. I'm 379 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 10: actually really enjoying it. Enjoyed the early part of the 380 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 10: story about your early career and the challenges and ups 381 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 10: and downs. You definitely have balls. I'm impressed and enjoyed 382 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 10: the story. I'm also enjoying things I thought I understood 383 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 10: in the news, but didn't understood how the dots connected. 384 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 5: So thank you. 385 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 6: So Clay. 386 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: Is the book semi autobiographical. I did buy my copy, 387 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: and I know a guy who could probably get me 388 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: a free one. But I bought my copy and I 389 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: have not yet had the chance to dive into it, 390 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: but I will, so tell me give me a little 391 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a preview here, there's some autobiographical components. 392 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I mean, how do you end up doing 393 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: what we do? I think if you trace the Trump era, 394 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: one of the things that I really examined in the book, 395 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 3: and I think historically is going. 396 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: To matter is how did we lose our way. 397 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 3: In sports in particular, but also culture to the extent 398 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: where we ended up? And congratulations the Olympics now are 399 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 3: coming out in saying that they're going to ban men 400 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 3: who identify as women. But how did we create a 401 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: landscape where the book opens with Leah Thomas winning a 402 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: man winning a women's NCAA swimming championship in twenty twenty two. 403 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: How did that happen. It wasn't overnight, it was gradual. 404 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 3: They tried to and this is one reason I'm talking 405 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: to you Buck today and why I've been talking to 406 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: everybody for the past several years. They tried to turn 407 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: sports into identity politics. They tried to strip away the meritocracy, 408 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: and they tried to take away that from sports. Best 409 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: man or best woman wins and how did that happen? 410 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 3: How did we end up with a man winning a 411 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: women's championship? So the book kind of gets into the 412 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: history of that and traces the media evolution. And let 413 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: me say this, you guys have bought this thing to 414 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: such an extent that we are on the precipice of, 415 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: for the first time ever, me being a New York 416 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: Times bestselling author. So they have they have flagged the book, 417 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 3: and it's gonna be like right on the border of 418 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: whether we end up on the Times List. 419 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: Now, look, we've been. 420 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: The last book I wrote was a Wall Street Journal, bestseller, 421 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: Publishers Weekly, USA Today List, all of those things. But 422 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: the Times List is what gets a book in the 423 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: front of a bookstore. It's what gets people maybe to 424 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: engage with a book that they otherwise wouldn't. So I 425 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: have a lot of immense gratitude. Obviously, a lot. 426 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: Of people bought signed copies. So far, so good. It's 427 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: been six days. 428 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: So but you guys have bought thousands and thousands of copies. 429 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: And you know what else, a lot of you have 430 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: bought the audiobook, and Buck, I'm telling you, on your 431 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: Christmas break, when you go into that studio and you 432 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 3: start recording it, you're going to be thankful for anybody 433 00:22:55,200 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 3: who buys the audiobook, because recording the book yourself is 434 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 3: is an incredible grind of an effort, particularly because you're 435 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: just in a room by yourself, and every word they're fixing, 436 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: they're making sure that you read it correctly. And so 437 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 3: to the extent you want more from me, there is 438 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 3: six over six hours of me reading every word of 439 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: this book. And I'm betting it'll take you. It takes 440 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 3: about fifteen hours probably to record six so. 441 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: A long time. That sounds like a lot of fun. 442 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: Now we have this from Reuter's this morning. Clay no 443 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: decision yet on transgender athletes games eligibility, IOC International Olympic 444 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: Committee says, but they are moving to Titan eligibility criteria 445 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: in a shifting sentiment that the IOC appears increasingly willing 446 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: to get on board with. Did a you turn in June? 447 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm reading again from the Reuters report here deciding to 448 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: take the lead and setting eligibility criteria or a participation 449 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: of trans gender athletes. Coventry set up the Protection of 450 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: the Female Category working Group. This is really what we've 451 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: come to, Protection of the Female category, made up of 452 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: experts as well as representatives. 453 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: An update. 454 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: So what I'm seeing here, which is interesting, is that 455 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: they know that this is going to be preposterous and 456 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: destroy the interest and love of the Olympics, which the 457 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: Olympics has been around for like three thousand years, I 458 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: think something like that. I think it's eight hundred bcs 459 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: around there. You had the first Olympics in ancient Greece, 460 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: so it has been a long time this thing's been 461 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: going on, right, It's actually one of our oldest cultural 462 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: traditions that I'm aware of. And they realized that some 463 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: three hundred pound guy that would be very big, some 464 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: two hundred pound guy setting the women's record and shot 465 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: put while he's like, you know, curling his beard is 466 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: probably going to hurt our sense as to how fair 467 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: this is. And yet now they're starting to say, well, 468 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: what about women who have the sry gene and the 469 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: Y chromosome? And I want to be very clear, the 470 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: trans movement has explicitly thought against trans identification having anything 471 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: to do with chromosomes or anything else. Yes, But now 472 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: with the Olympics, they're trying to play this game of, oh, well, 473 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: what about people that have this very rare mutation. It's 474 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: a whole lot of second, that's not when Trump banned 475 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: men playing women's sports. It's dudes who say they're women. 476 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: That's what everyone's really talking about, because if you make 477 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: it about those chromosomes, the dudes who say they're women 478 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: don't count. So they're trying to have it, but it 479 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: looks to me a little bit like they're trying to 480 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: play both sides of this. 481 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: Well. 482 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 3: Also, I don't think you can divorce from this decision 483 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: the fact that the Olympics are taking place the Summer Olympics, 484 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: which is where this becomes, at least so far, the 485 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: biggest issue in LA. So Trump has already come out 486 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: and said, hey, this idea of men competing in women's sports. Buck, 487 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: did you see the powerlifter I mean, this dude is. 488 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a monster dude. It's like the Mountain 489 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 3: from Game of Thrones suddenly deciding to identify as a chick. 490 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 3: Isn't it interesting that any athlete that is pretending that 491 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: he is female, we can see a picture and pick 492 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: out who the dude is. 493 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's difficult at all, right, you see it? 494 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: And I shared that video with you recently of the 495 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: volleyball player. The guy looks like Kobe Bryant soaring through 496 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: the air to spike the volleyball. Women's volleyball nets are lower, 497 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: women's basketballs are smaller, The entire physics of the sport 498 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: is very often different. I can't believe that this is 499 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 3: where we are, that this is considered a victory. Remember 500 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 3: it was only a couple of years ago that the 501 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 3: dude boxer, two potential dude boxers won women's gold medals, 502 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: And now they won't take the gender test and they 503 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: don't qualify because and people say, well, this is this 504 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 3: is really unfortunate because it invades their privacy. 505 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 2: It's a cheek swab. 506 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: A cheek swab is how they do genetic analysis to 507 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: determine what your chromosome will break down. Is now some 508 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: of these guys, we don't need cheek swabs. We could 509 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: have crocodile done detests, but cheek swab. It's not like 510 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 3: you're having to disrobe or there's some doctor like probing 511 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: your physical body. They just cheek swab you and you 512 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: either are or or not qualified to be a woman. 513 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: And remember this is only for men who identify as women. 514 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: If biology wasn't real, there'd be all these chicks deciding 515 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 3: they were dudes competing in the Olympics and competing in 516 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 3: men's sports. Why isn't that happening because biology is real 517 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 3: and those women who identify as men are nowhere near big, strong, 518 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 3: or fast enough to compete. 519 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting that you never have a female to 520 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: male transition who automatically gets a gold medal? Is almost 521 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: like we're proving the experiment in reverse. Right, we all 522 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: know what's going on here. But I've always thought that 523 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: this is what would happen, is that the moment that 524 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: they're really cornered on this issue, which is that they're 525 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 1: just cornered by reality, they'll start to say, well, what 526 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: about people who are intersex or have this rare chromosomal 527 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: They say, what about the science? Say, okay, are we 528 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: talking about that or are we And even still I 529 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: might add, there's a science argument. You know, if you 530 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: have male chromosomes and the physical advantages of male testosterone, 531 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: you should only be able to compete against men. It's 532 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: actually not that complicated. Yes, right, and so there's that. 533 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: But what they're trying to do is create a gray 534 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: area here so that then they can expand that gray 535 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: area to include macho man andy savage so to speak, 536 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: being like, I'm not here to talk about my transition. 537 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: That is the South Park win that ended up being 538 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: reality and buck here is an easy way to kind 539 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: of sum it up. Men just have not been willing 540 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 3: to go for this. Think about this for a minute. 541 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 3: They just put, you know, eight guys or whatever it 542 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: was on the cover of Glamour magazine. There have been 543 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: a bunch of men identifying as women who have become 544 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: Woman of the Year in the first year they're women. 545 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: I mean, what an insult to women that is? There 546 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 3: isn't I would argue, maybe one of you can come 547 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: up with one. I don't think there is a single 548 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: woman who has decided to identify as a man that 549 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: has in any way been more successful or extremely accepted 550 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: by the male community. We're just saying, hey, we don't 551 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: play this game. No woman who becomes a man in 552 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 3: the first year is the man of the year. Only 553 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 3: person I can hardly even think about is the uh 554 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: Ellen Page, and she basically destroyed her acting career. She 555 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: was actually a kind of a cute successful actress, remember 556 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: her from back in the day. She had several different 557 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: movies and then decided that actually, my name's Elliott Page 558 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 3: and I'm a dude, and basically vanished to a large extent. 559 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: If she had stayed. 560 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: Elliet Ellen Page probably has another twenty years of Hollywood success. Instead, 561 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: becomes a dude and people are like, yeah, whatever, I'm 562 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: not really going to pay attention to that anymore.