1 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to save her production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren voc Obaum, and today 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about the NEGRONI Yes, another cocktail hour. Yes, 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: as always with these, drink responsibly. Um. I will say 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: negronies now make me think of dongeons and dragons. Yes. 6 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: Thanks to Joe McCormick over at Stuff to Blow your Mind, 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: who is a part of our campaign. He always makes 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: negronies for us should we desire them. He's been he's 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: been hosting over at his house and has just been 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: delightfully crafting negronis for us while we play. Yes, it's wonderful. 11 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: I was trying to explain it to him the first 12 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: time we were playing, where I was like, I don't 13 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: have have like gin, so this is a step up 14 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: for me. I'm very excited about what's happening now. Appreciative. Also, 15 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: he always hands them to me and says thanks d M. 16 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: And I'm oh, Joe, this is very very very sweet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 17 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: we we we were talking before we started recording, and 18 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: yet but neither of us have the ingredients to make 19 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: a negrowny. Both of us only have gin, so it's 20 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: it could be like a deconstructed negrowny. That's what I'm 21 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: calling it. Yes, no, I I very much have a 22 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: craving that I'm hoping the next time we play Dune 23 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: and Dragons, which is soon. We haven't played in a minute, 24 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: so hopefully soon it will be it will be satiated. Um. 25 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: It also reminds me of back when we had happy 26 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: hours at our office, when when we were going to 27 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: into an office before the pandemic and we you to 28 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: have like a place in our building that would do 29 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: these Monday happy hours in a Yeah, oh gosh, I 30 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: missed the Mercury that was such a great bar. Yes, 31 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: and also built on Bard would do liquid blunch they had, 32 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: oh I know, but they had grownies as well as 33 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: a part of that. Yeah, I don't know. It's it's 34 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: interesting because it's it's a drink that, as we've done 35 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: this research has made me miss the social times. Yeah, 36 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: I would drink it absolutely. Yeah, It's not a It's 37 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: not a thing I've ever really made at home. I'll 38 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: make like a Manhattan at home. I went through a 39 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: pretty serious Manhattan period during the first part of lockdown 40 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: or did not lockdown shut down anyway, that that that 41 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: sounded way more serious than even it was second there, um, 42 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah no, And then I quickly realized that 43 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: I shouldn't do that. I should not have the means 44 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: to make myself a Manhattan at home at any given 45 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: point in time, because I'll just drink Manhattan's which wild tasty, 46 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, like again, drink responsibly. The growny there there, 47 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: There isn't a growny week mm hmm. This is a 48 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: corporately designed kind of holiday week um that is nonetheless 49 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: pretty delightful. Um. It is shifted over the years east 50 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: to be in June, but in t it's happening in 51 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: September this year it will be September, so we're ahead 52 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: of the curve for once. That's definitely what we intended 53 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: plant uh yes, um and uh for for kind of 54 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: like a like a like a base to this episode. 55 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: You can also see our episode on tomorrow from October, 56 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: which includes a lovely ghost story read by not us 57 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: It's very old Gods of Appalachia, plus our previous cocktail hours, 58 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: especially the Gin and Tonic episode which we classiced in July. 59 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: Savor Verb created by Lauren Vogelbaum. Classic. That's what we did, 60 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: yes then our episode is a really fun one too, 61 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: So I really both of those are or two that 62 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: I reference in my own I know a lot of 63 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: you listeners right in there, like, oh, when I'm at 64 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: a party, I bring up this fact. Oh yeah, yeah, 65 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: same same. Um. And especially in the tomorrow episode, we uh, 66 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: we interview the lovely folks at a Rhine which is 67 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: a distillery out of Asheville, which we got to visit 68 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: while we were up there. And um, and that in 69 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: the ghost story and question is the story that that 70 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: inspired their name? And yeah, I especially as at a 71 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: Rhine has gotten wider distribution. Um. I've just been just 72 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: been talking them up to to to all kinds of humans, um, 73 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: and loved doing that great great stuff. Oh I need 74 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: some okay, alright, cool, all right, Well, before we go 75 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: too far down the path of desire, perhaps we should 76 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: get to our question. I guess. So the Negroni what 77 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: is it? Well, the New Growny is a cocktail made 78 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: with gin, sweet formouth and a type of amorrow called kempari. 79 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: Traditionally you can put other stuff in there, but that's 80 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: the basic basic stuff. Um. It is garnished with a 81 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: slice of orange or a strip of orange peel, the 82 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,119 Speaker 1: latter sometimes flamed. It can be served chilled and straight 83 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: up or over ice. A single large cube is pretty popular. 84 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: And it's it's the drink is smooth and bitter, sweet 85 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: and herbal, a little bit spicy um or or spiced, 86 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: I guess rather, but with this brightness underneath. And not 87 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: to get like two poetic on y'all, like right off 88 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: the bat, but it just it tastes like a like 89 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: a some or night. I should have a next time 90 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: we play Dungeons and Jagons, I should have some kind 91 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: of like poetry off no where you have to describe 92 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: the NEGRONI and I shall judge from my dungeon master position. 93 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that would be something that Ben Bolan would 94 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: be amazing at, and that I would be like, give 95 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: me a few weeks and I'll come up with an 96 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: amazing entry. I feel like all of you are really 97 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: excellent at coming up with some perhaps less than traditional poetry, 98 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: but poetry not of us. We are a poetic group. 99 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. So let's let's let's break down 100 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: all of those ingredients a little bit. So um so 101 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: Jin is a type of liquor made with a neutral 102 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: spirit that's then infused with any number of botanicals during 103 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: and or after installation. The primary and necessary botanical is juniper, 104 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: which is sort of bright and piney tasting, but generis, 105 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: all have their own complex blends of herbs and spices 106 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: and bibers, all have their own personal preferences. Some common 107 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: editions include a liquorice or a niece, cinnamon, citrus, peel, nutmeg, saffron, savory, 108 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: all kinds of barks and bits and uh stuff, yes, 109 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: but basically Jin's are piney and dry, with with other 110 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: urban spice notes in there. Vermouth is a type of 111 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: wine that has been infused with various botanicals like wormwood, saffron, coriander, camemeal, 112 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: and or juniper um, and then fortified with a little 113 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: bit of neutral spirit like um like unaged brandy. The 114 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: sweet type of vermouth is also sometimes called red vermouth 115 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: or Italian vermouth because it is red and it originated 116 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: in Italy. We say this every time we mentioned vermouth, 117 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: but like we're gonna have to do a whole episode 118 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: or like few episodes on it at some point forthcoming. Uh, 119 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, they can range quite a bit in final effect. Um, 120 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: but they're they're kind of semi sweet, too sweet, and 121 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: sort of savory herbal with a little bit of like 122 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: drying tannin on the palate. Compari Um is a type 123 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: of Amorrow Tomorrow, being a broad category of liqueurs that 124 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: are made with any number of botanicals. Um. They're a 125 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: little bit sweet like vermouth, and more bitter than either 126 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: gin or vermouth would be generally. Compari is a particular 127 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: brand made with this proprietary recipe of over sixty herbs 128 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: and fruit peels and tasty tree barks and etcetera. It's 129 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: this brilliant translucent orange red in color um with an 130 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: emphasis on like orange ey lemony kind of notes. It's 131 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: on the dry side and has like sweet and savory 132 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: herbs in there. It's also the original liquor that spawned 133 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: the sprawling Campari group Beverage Empire, which owns everything from 134 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:07,359 Speaker 1: sky vodka to espalone to wild Turkey. Today. Dang, yeah, yeah, 135 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: they're going places the orange so in in cocktails, a 136 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: strip of orange peel, sometimes called a zest or twist, 137 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: is taking just the bright, aromatic oil filled part of 138 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: an orange skin off with a sharp knife or another tool. 139 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: Um leaving behind the bitter white pith and depending on 140 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: the orange in question, um, dropping this in a drink 141 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: or rubbing it on the rim or whatever. We'll add 142 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: a bright kind of floral citrus bitter scent to the 143 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: drink and a tiny bit of oil on top on 144 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: the pallet. And you can also hold an orange strip 145 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: to an open flame for a few seconds to chart 146 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: slightly and add kind of deeper bitter flavors and caramel 147 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: flavors to to what you're doing. Um, it's nice, it's 148 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: flashy in a bar. Don't set yourself on fire. Um. 149 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: But but the result of all of this, um is Yeah, 150 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: just a glassful of like bitter sweet herbs and sit 151 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: chris and spices. And because of the inclusion of a 152 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: tomorrow and sweet vermouth, it's often been considered a pre 153 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: dinner drink to like to like stimulate the stomach or 154 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: the digestive system. But it's evolved into like an any 155 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: time sort of cocktail. Yes, hm uh. The generally accepted 156 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: recipe calls for equal parts gin, vermouth and campari, but 157 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: of course people like to argue about whether a different 158 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: ratio is better, and there are all kinds of riffs 159 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: on it. Um some variations that I would argue wander 160 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: into like whole different but related drink territory. But I'm not. 161 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you what you can and 162 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: can't call your drinks. Yeah you can. You can use 163 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: different kinds of vermouth, different kinds of amari, or orange 164 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: liquor elements and orange wedge right instead of a peel. 165 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: You can top it with soda. You can add a 166 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: few dashes of bitters. You can add an egg and 167 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: shake it to make a flip. You can use different 168 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: based liquors than gin. You can add sweeteners or sourers. 169 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: You can serve it frozen. You can put fruit in it. 170 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: Like it's a saying area. I can't tell you not 171 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: to um. Some called boulevardier a spin on the Negroni, 172 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: and I guess, to be fair, it is technically a 173 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: Negroni with bourbon instead of gin. I feel like New 174 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: Orleans would have something to say about that, though. No never, 175 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, you can. You can do any number of 176 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: things with this basic concept of the cocktail. Yeah, I 177 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: guess I'd have to look into the history of the 178 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: boulevardier to wonder if the Negroni is a spin. Oh 179 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: that's true. Another day I don't fair conjecture, but does 180 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: not dare do it? Uh? What about the nutrition drink responsibly? Yes, 181 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, um numbers, we do have some for you, 182 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: we do, we do. It's the Negroni is the second 183 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: best selling drink in the world by some accounts. I 184 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: couldn't really nail down specifics, but yeah, as of the 185 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: twenty teens, it started ranking way up there in surveys 186 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: and polls that some of these like like bar associations, um, 187 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: not legal bar associations like bar tender associations started conducting 188 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: or I mean, I guess I didn't consult any legal 189 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: bar associations, so I can't tell you. Oh man, well 190 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: we should back, we should. Um. Negroni Week is uh. 191 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: The aforementioned kind of corporate holiday is a is a 192 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: marketing slash fundraising thing created by the Kompari Company in 193 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: collaboration with Inbibe magazine and uh yeah. During during this week, 194 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: bars and restaurants around the world will feature negronisum and 195 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: growny inspired cocktails and then make donations hypothetically like a 196 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: portion of the proceeds of of the sales of these 197 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: drinks to one or more of that year's official charitable causes, 198 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: and in return will be featured in like central marketing pushes. UM. 199 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: It's pretty fun and or slightly exhausting. UM, but yeah, 200 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: like over twelve thousand venues now participate every year. They've 201 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: raised a near about three million dollars for charities in 202 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: less than a decade UM and a seven hundred nine 203 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: thousand dollars of that was in alone. Yeah. I definitely 204 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: encountered a growning week and I'm like, okay, get en. Yeah, 205 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't really have to twist my arm, 206 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: that's fine, but here I am. I'm happy to to 207 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: get one if it is a growning week. UM. A 208 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: video of actors Stanley Tucci making it a grony during 209 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: lockdown went viral. Oh Stanley Tucci, Oh my whole nerd heart, 210 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Uh yeah, all right, so this this 211 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: video if you if you haven't seen it, and actually 212 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: I hadn't, UM, but I was delighted to go down 213 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: this rabbit hole. So this video has been viewed one 214 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: point one million times on his Instagram account UM and 215 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: has been reposted various places. For example, it's got another 216 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: six point two million views on Twitter. Uh. There is 217 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: a lot of thirst, uh drink thirst and Tucci thirst 218 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: surrounding this video. And also, how did I miss that 219 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: he does like a lot of cooking and cocktails. I'm 220 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: so out of touch. He's got two cookbooks out already, 221 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: You're out of Tucci Heck, he's also got a memoir 222 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: coming out in October called Taste My Life through Food. Uh, 223 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: Stanley Tucci call us, we can really boost your profile. 224 00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: You get all the savor. You're gonna go to the shop, kid, 225 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: D's either either both both. In the words of Orson Wells, 226 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: the bidders are excellent for your liver, the gin is 227 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: bad for you. They balance each other. Um. And if 228 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: James Bond wasn't feeling the Martini, he might go for 229 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: under Groomy or perhaps a related cocktail, the Americano Um. 230 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: This is a predecessor to the Negroni That um doesn't 231 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: have gin, but rather soda water plus the sweet vermouth 232 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: and the campari, and is served on the rocks with 233 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: a lemon wedge, UM, making it like lighter and more summary. Uh. Yeah. 234 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: In the very first Bond book, Um, he's in this 235 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: French cafe, and and author Ian Fleming is setting him 236 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: up is being like confident and sophisticated and like a 237 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: little bit flamboyant. Um. You know, he would never have 238 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: whiskey or vodka in in such a place, but he 239 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: goes for an Americano. So never um. The the aforementioned 240 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: built on bar, the liquid lunch they used to do. 241 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: I think it wasn't a grony, but it might have 242 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: been an Americano, but it would It said something in 243 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: the description along the lines of like what James Bond 244 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: really drank? And I was like, I don't know, okay, 245 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: but hey, that did come up in several sources. People 246 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: brought this up, so yeah, yeah, now you know, um, 247 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: we do have a lot of mysterious and interesting history 248 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: for you behind this one. Oh and as with any 249 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: Cocktail Hour, yes we do. Um. But first we've got 250 00:16:53,600 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: a quick break for a word from our sponsor, and 251 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you, and yes 252 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: see r GIN episode. It's really good required listening for 253 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: this one. Yeah yeah. In short history of jin, the 254 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: Dutch were creating this juniper flavored spirit called Jennifer by 255 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: about fifteen hundreds which would branch into Jin's over the 256 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: next few centuries. The predecessors to Vermouth also began around 257 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: the same time, but in Italy, um and what we 258 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: now know as Sweet Vermouth developed in the late seventeen hundreds. There, 259 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: Campari was invented in eighteen sixty, which is of course 260 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: a key ingredient for the Negroni UM. It came out 261 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: of this Melanese establishment called Cafe Kompari, where one Gaspare 262 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: Kompari blended his personal eponymous tomorrow um tinted brilliant red 263 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: using carmine, which is this food grade die made from 264 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: crushed cockneil bugs HM. Also used in lipstick in early days. 265 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, still still used in some things UM 266 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: not vegan applications. Campari itself would switch to a lab 267 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: created substitute for most markets UM in two thousand and six. 268 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: But anyway, UM and then oranges. Oranges have been grown 269 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 1: in the Mediterranean since around a thousand CE. We've got 270 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: an episode on those two. So many episodes, yes, And 271 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: as with all of our cocktail hours, this one has 272 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: multiple origin stories, all of them a bit on the 273 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: marque side. The most popular one goes thus Lee in Florence, Italy, 274 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: in count Camillo, a Groni as bartender force go Scarceli 275 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: over at Cafe Cassoni to make his Americano stronger by 276 00:18:55,359 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: swapping out the usual soda water with gin. Scarsella allegedly 277 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: did so and went one further, using an orange garnish 278 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: in the place of the typical lemon in an Americano. 279 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: Scarselia's creation was popular and it became a go to 280 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: for cocktail drinkers, so the story goes. By some historical accounts, 281 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: this iteration had only a few drops of jin though. Yes, 282 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: and this the Groning Fellow led an interesting life after leaving. 283 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: After arriving in the US in a while in his twenties, 284 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: he apparently spent some time traveling across the country as 285 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: a cowboy. He also earned a name for himself as 286 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: a banker and a well known riverboat gambler. Okay, Yes, 287 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: historians think it was the time he spent living in London, 288 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: and specifically London's gin scene, that led to him potentially 289 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: creating one of the most well known cocktails of our time. Okay. 290 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: The Negroni family did not wait long to found the 291 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: Negroni distillery in nineteen nineteen and Italy. They manufactured and 292 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: sold a ready for consumption Negroni UM under the name 293 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: Antiko Negroni, and this distillery is still open to this day. 294 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: Although I visited their website and if I was saying 295 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: I had invented the Negroni, I would put that out 296 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: right in front. They didn't really seem to do that. Okay, 297 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: they would really give a date, because I was just 298 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: trying to clarify, like, did this actually happen in nineteen nineteen. Oh, 299 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: their website did not make it readily clear. But hey, 300 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know it's still up and running. And yes, 301 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: there isn't a lot of evidence to back this whole 302 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: story up, even though it is the one that is 303 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: told the most often. But they're there are some really 304 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: fun tidbits that come up when people are talking about 305 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: it UM. For instance, in nineteen twenty one, Francis Harper wrote, 306 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm assuming to count Negroni. It wasn't wasn't clear, but 307 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: I think so Okay. Quote, my dear Negroni, you say 308 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: you can drink smoke, and I am sure laugh just 309 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: as much as ever, I feel that you are not 310 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: much to be pitied, you must not take more than 311 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: twenty Negronis in one day. Goodness, oodness, I agree. I 312 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: agree with that advice. Yes, I do as well. But 313 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: twist mm hmmm. A descendant of the Negroni family named 314 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: nol Negroni has spoken out about this whole thing, claiming 315 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: that it was in fact Corsican general Pascal Olivier den 316 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: Negroni Dicardi who invented the drink, and that there was 317 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: no Count Negroni at all. Yeah, so okay, So this 318 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: story places the creation of the Negroni not in Italy 319 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: at all, but in Senegal um and earlier, like perhaps 320 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: in the eighteen sixties. Yes, and this Pascal fellow also 321 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: led an interesting life as a veteran of the Franco 322 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: Prussian War. He was eighteen when he joined at the 323 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: French army in eighteen forty seven. In eighteen seventy he 324 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: received recognition as the officer of the Legion of Honor. 325 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: He spent time as a prisoner of war and was 326 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: promoted to brigadier general in eighteen eighty four. Five years later, 327 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: in eighteen eighty nine, he was named Commander of the 328 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: Legion of Honor. He retired in eighteen ninety one, but 329 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: before all of this, he apparently maybe it had something 330 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: to do with creating the Negroni. From eighteen fifty five 331 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: to eighteen sixty four he served as a base commander 332 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: in Senegal, and during this time he wrote a letter 333 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: to his brother that read, incidentally, did you know that 334 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: the verm Bace cocktail that I invented in St. Louis 335 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: is a great hit at the Lunaville Officers Club? If 336 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: that's true, I love the Incidentally, Incidentally, incidentally, Like now 337 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: that we've talked about much more important things, let's throw 338 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: a tidbit in here that's going to confound historians centuries later, 339 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: including US podcasters who are just trying to get the 340 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: bottom of the negroty. Oh okay, alright, So so, so 341 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: I was so I was wrong when I said in Senegal, 342 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: because that that's a version of the story that I 343 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: had read. But this makes it sound like it wasn't 344 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: there at all, but rather later, uh maybe into the 345 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: eighteen seventies in the United States. Anyway, we don't know. Well, 346 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: we're trying our best to present the facts, but we're 347 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: doing what we can um for they're backing up this 348 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: whole story are alleged accounts of people who worked in 349 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: bars and in medicine at the time in Senegal who 350 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: sided the Negroni and the quote French army captain who 351 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: created it. Reportedly, some of these stories even claimed that 352 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: the drink was created with the help of Pascal's wife. 353 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: So who knows, we don't, we don't, We're we're reporting 354 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: the many faceted facts, Yes, many faceted. A kaleidoscope of 355 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: the Groni. Uh. Author of the Negroni Gas Reagan, believes 356 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: that the Negroni comes from a drink dating back to 357 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: the eighteen sixties called the Milano Torino, which was itself 358 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: a derivation of the Trino Mulano. Okay, I don't know. Uh. 359 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: These drinks got their name from the geographic location of 360 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: their base ingredients Campari from a lawn and tomorrow cora 361 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: from to in um and this drink or these drinks 362 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: are believed to have been invented in the eighteen sixties 363 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: in Milan at Cafe camp Arino. Visiting affluent Americans may 364 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: have requested so to water and their Milano torino's, resulting 365 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: in the Americano separate episode. I'm sure um, or possibly 366 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: it was just renamed Americano because Americans liked it. Could 367 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: have been and it could have been any number of 368 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: all of these. There were a lot of Italian bartenders 369 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: in trance in the nineteen twenties. Campari, the company was 370 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: also hardcore marketing to the French market at this time, 371 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: and from this came a drink called the Campari Cardinal 372 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: in n which was really close to a Negroni. The 373 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: Campari Mixed Day in Night was even closer. Within a year, 374 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: over a half dozen bars in Paris were making something 375 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: similar to these drinks. Yeah yeah, Campari brand was holding 376 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: these cocktail competitions in Paris around that time, and so 377 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: I think that that's where some of these some of 378 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: these drinks got their start. Rights UM and Nina Wilcox Putnam, 379 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: who was an author, screenwriter and calmness Um. She wrote 380 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: in ninety three All Gaul was divided in three parts, 381 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: one part Gin, one part formouth in, one part Italian Bidders. 382 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 1: Which is interesting because UM, as as with a lot 383 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: of these episodes, I'll be researching something and then I'm like, Okay, 384 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: here we go, here's the date, and then I'll research 385 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: something else and it's like, no, okay, this is the date. 386 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: And a part of this was really confusing because a 387 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: lot of the people who have written about the history 388 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: of the Negroni are specifically looking for the history of 389 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: the equal parts recipe, which, according to most sources, did 390 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: not happen until much later. But this, like quote from 391 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: this author, sounds like there you go, that's that's it, 392 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: right there, that's it. But other sources do not report 393 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: this to be the case. Um recipes from nineteen four 394 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: and nineteen forty three, you suggest that drinks similar to 395 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: the Negroni have been around, if not in the name, 396 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: for a lot longer than perhaps we thought, and perhaps 397 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: called the Campara nette Um. There's even a printed recipe 398 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: from nine that is essentially the agroni, just under a 399 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: different name. Some have even linked the invention of the 400 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: Negroni to uh an eight American recipe. Mm hmmm. That 401 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: being said, others argue the first written recipe that matches 402 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: are more modern understanding of the Negroni appeared in Floridita 403 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: Cocktails by Constantinto Constante Reba Yaga, which may have been 404 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: published in nineteen thirty nine or after World War two. 405 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: Food historians have tuck into that as well, which I love. Um. 406 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: This recipe is credited to Manuel Sanchez mess Bonds out 407 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: of Havana. It wasn't the equal parts recipe, though it 408 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: called for two parts remove one part gin and one 409 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: half part campari. The equal parts recipe first appeared in 410 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: print in in an Italian paper after a bar historian 411 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: discovered this recipe and cocktail's portfolio by a Medio gang Diglio. Um. 412 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: There was no date given on when that was written. 413 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: It's all a mess, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, lots 414 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: of yes, yes, lots of mess. Uh. The negroni may 415 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: have been accepted in the U s. As a part 416 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: of a fascination around New Italy. What was called New Italy. Uh, 417 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: something fancy and sophisticated in the eyes of American tourists, 418 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: something celebrities drink. There was a whole list of celebrities 419 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: that would drink the negroni that people would watch from 420 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: a foreign think, if only I could be like Audrey 421 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 1: Hepburn and the negroni. Um campari was a part of 422 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: this too. It was a bright light, not too strong 423 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: in terms of alcohol drink. It was easy to add 424 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: to things to spruce up your drink, and speaking of 425 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: Campari almost went completely under during the Wars, but by 426 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty the company shipped a million leaders of their 427 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: product to Italian cities, with only nine leaders to the US. 428 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: Ship to the US. That didn't stop them from advertising 429 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: in the US. In nine of those million leaders in Italy, 430 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: though they seemed to be disproportionately consumed at two Italian 431 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: established including Cafe Rosatti, where had bartender Valentino Clementi claimed 432 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: that then a girl he was in fact a creation 433 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: of his Oh right, yes. In seven, the story goes 434 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: at a busy bartender in Milan accidentally poured prosecco instead 435 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: of gen wine, making a negroni, making what would become 436 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: known as a negroni sub bayato, which I've never heard of. 437 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: Have you heard of this? I hadn't until I did 438 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: the reading for this episode, and and it was one 439 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: of the main riffs on a negroni that I read about, 440 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: right up there next to the boulevardier. So sounds good, yeah, 441 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: oh yeah, no I I I love a cocktail that 442 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: has sparkling wine in it. Um in terms of I 443 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: mean it usually tastes delightful, and then after one, I'm like, 444 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm never going to drink again. I Am going to 445 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: have water for the rest of my life in order 446 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: to make up for the delicious mistake I just made. 447 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: Right how I feel about French sefore times as well. Yeah, yeah, 448 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: it makes sense. Some historians and bartenders have chronicled the 449 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: dark ages of the negroni, one being during the World Wars, 450 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: and that this is specifically in Italy when jin was 451 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: tough to come by in that country, and the other 452 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: when drinks in general were suffering the seventies and nineties, 453 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: which we've discussed, yes, yes, which um affected the quality 454 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: of things like bidders and vermuse So people were getting 455 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: like really cheap bitters and really cheap vermouth. Um. According 456 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: to some Italian bartenders, ordering a negrony in Italy during 457 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: this time was the equivalent of an American ordering a 458 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: vodka red Bull in the two thousands. Um. Basically, yeah, 459 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: you were just looking to get trashed. Um. This all 460 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: changed with some marketing around bidders and Vermouth in the 461 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties that in turn impacted the negrony. Some of 462 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: this advertising included celebrities like Charlie Siron And there's an 463 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: apparently infamous ad for Campari called Red Passion and I 464 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: watched it and yeah, I can't even explain it. Um wow? 465 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: Was that the didn't didn't like Felini do a bunch 466 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: of ads for them in the eighties? Was that part 467 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: of his run? Um? I don't know, Okay, I feel 468 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: like it's an ad. I can't explain without offending people. 469 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: Um goodness, I could be wrong, but I mean I 470 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: recommend watching it. I was shocked. I was shocked. Okay, dang, 471 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like you are relatively unflappable. 472 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: So so I was flapped. I was flapped. Yeah, okay, 473 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,959 Speaker 1: So so what had happened was uh, Frederico Felini um 474 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: did this series of ads for Campari or possibly a 475 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: ad for kompari um in the eighties. I want to say, 476 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: like four, So, so your reaction to this, if y'all 477 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: are not familiar with his work, it is a lot 478 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: um in a beautiful way. Uh so so like SETI 479 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: con stuff like that is Felini. So if yeah, it was, 480 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: it was like that, mm hmmm, um, okay, I'll try 481 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: to give up. Brief description um, imagine you're watching you 482 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: think you're watching a perfume man. Okay, because it's that 483 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: same kind of like pursuit, like very heteronormative male female 484 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: pursuit thing happening. And then they catch up there in 485 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: ball gowns. They're in a beautiful place, they catch up 486 00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: with each other. One of them spills COMPARI the other 487 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: person read everywhere right. It turns out that the person 488 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: you think is the man is actually a woman, and 489 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: the person you think is a woman is actually a man. 490 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: Oh and that's the ad I I just was confused. Mostly, Yeah, 491 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: I surprised that is that is, to be fair, how 492 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: I feel watching his films. So yeah, that, yeah, seems 493 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: on par like standard yeah yeah, regular, yeah at any rate. Okay, 494 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: So Campari really leaned into this equal Parts Jesipe and 495 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: the two Thousands, which really helped the Growny emerge from 496 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: the dark ages of the eighties. Then the Growny's popularity 497 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: was also hopped along with a boost of the popularity 498 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: of Gin Yeah, and the company itself really revamped during 499 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: the early two thousand's, starting with a number of beverage 500 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: brand acquisitions and parlaying that into all of these huge 501 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: marketing pushes see above re Imbibe and Compari starting up 502 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: Negroni Week. That happened in with just a hundred and 503 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: twenty participating venues. Originally they now have a hundred times that. 504 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: So good for that. Yeah, um was a digital only event, 505 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: but I believe it is going back to being partially 506 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: at least in person in Compari group through a whole 507 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: series of Negroni parties. In twenty nine to celebrate the 508 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 1: ostensible hundredth birthday of the Coroni hashtag and one hundred 509 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: that same year, an Italian documentary called Looking for Negroni debut. 510 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: I think it's out just this year in the United States. Um. 511 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: Also just this year, a whole book of the Growny 512 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: recipes was published. It's called The Growny. There you go, 513 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: There you go. I'm curious. I'm curious, willing to experiment 514 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: how many variations before it's no longer indo Growny? These 515 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: are deep questions we must ask. I'm not. It's it's 516 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: like it's like a Theseus's ship paradox, you know, yes, 517 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: exactly like that growny with a cocktail. There is a 518 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: white hair growny, just like uh white vision. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 519 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: Oh goodness. Can I can I tell you my favorite 520 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: joke that that my friend Adam Penave made on Twitter, 521 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: like a couple of days after that episode of One 522 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: Division came out. Please He was like, actually, PCEs ship 523 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: is destil I bet two listeners got that and for 524 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: you too. That was for you, That was for that 525 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: was for y'all. You're welcome everyone else. I'm sorry, Uh, 526 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 1: explaining that would only make it worse, that would become 527 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: a like endeavor, um, but I really appreciate it. That's 528 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: pretty funny. Well, you're welcome. Thank you. The three of 529 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: you are welcome. So perhaps clearly this is all we 530 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: have to say about the NEGRONI today. Yes, yes, for now, 531 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: but we do have some listener mail for you. We do, 532 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: and we're going to get into that as soon as 533 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: we get back from one more quick break for a 534 00:37:51,000 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, 535 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: thank you, and we're back with listen. It's an intense 536 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: cheers trying to remember the voices people do in D 537 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: and D or Stanley Tucci voice. There were a lot 538 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: of things that going on in my brain, so you know, um, 539 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: John wrote an apologies in advance because there's a lot 540 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: of pronunciation in this. I'm gonna try my best. Oh goodness, 541 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: Oh okay, alright, yeah, yes, um Annie and the group episode. 542 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: You mentioned a Chinese tea in a red can with 543 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: yellow lettering. This maybe it in Wikipedia search for Wong 544 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: Low Cat, and it has photos of four such cans. 545 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: Three cans of the same writing, but the third can 546 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: is captioned three hundred and ten milli eaters. Red can 547 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: version produced by j D B named j d b 548 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: Um it has different Chinese writing. An Amazon US search 549 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: of wang Low Cat brings up a result, and so 550 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: does Wangloge herbal Tea. Those characters match four cans from 551 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: the Wikipedia entry. I love this. This is like a 552 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: detective search. Um On Amazon, Jia Duo Boo herbal Tea 553 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: brings up the other can a t I had in 554 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: Sechuan restaurants and Western China had goji berries, rock sugar, 555 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: chrysanthemum flowers, tea and other stuff taste kind of similar 556 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: to the red yellow can. On Amazon, I founded search 557 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: for Sunny Hill Chinese herbal tea eight plants mixed chrysanthemum, hawthorn, 558 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: wolf berry, Cassia, hogsuckle, orangekill, gardenia single crystal rock sugar, 559 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: tim count tea bags. Wow, about nine dollars, so cheaper 560 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: than the cans. My favorite Chinese food usually a morning 561 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: street food. Actually, and a Google search says some Atlanta 562 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: restaurants have it is gien being ols thin crepe topped 563 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: with eggs, choice of spicy not spicy, sauces, green onion, 564 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: and bread sticks then and crispy. Are soft and fluffy 565 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: depends on the place, wrapped up into erect angle, eating 566 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: as a sandwich in China. Sending you names of things 567 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: for you to search wor sorry, um a bit of 568 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: work but safest. Thank you for being you. I've listened 569 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 1: to Sminty since the days of Kristin and Malia, Caroline, 570 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: Emily Eaves, wonderful Ladies. Also bridget is awesome, Annie and Samantha. 571 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: I love your work with Sminty, Keep it up. Thank you. 572 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: I donated money to one of the organizations mentioned in 573 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: an episode on voting in Georgia. Thank you. Yeah. I 574 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: probably heard about food Stuff Saver through and a during 575 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: Spinty episode about six years ago. Kristin and Caroline were 576 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: doing a live Facebook session and in the comments, I 577 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: entered something like good morning from Japan, and I nearly 578 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 1: fainted when Kristin said my name. I'm not into movies, gaming, 579 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: or a fan fiction, but I find those chats interesting, 580 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 1: a peek into stuff I'm not into, get a glimpse 581 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: of things out side of my little world. I love 582 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: all the last in the episodes. The pimento cheese episode 583 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: had been confused for quite a few minutes. I'm from 584 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: Minnesota and recall it a similar sandwich spread. But I've 585 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: lived most of my adult life in Japan and a 586 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: bit in China. Sminty and food stuff keep me connected 587 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: to the US in good ways, aware of issues I 588 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: didn't know about previously. Big thank you to everyone involved 589 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: in the podcast for all the work and being such 590 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: great people. Oh, thank you so much for listening. Oh 591 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,479 Speaker 1: my goodness. Yes, it's so funny because when when people 592 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: say things like oh, when someone said my name, it's 593 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: so much to me. It means so much to us 594 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: when you write to as it really, yeah, yeah it is. 595 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: It is so it is incredible to me. Literally every 596 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: time someone is like, oh, hey I listened, I'm like 597 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 1: what and they're like oh, and I liked it. I'm like, really, like, 598 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: are our dungeons and dragons comments? Yes, yeah, it's like 599 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: it can it can be a really um like isolated 600 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: form of performance, uh doing podcasting because it's just me 601 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: and Annie on like a skype call. We're both just 602 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: in our houses. Yeah and yeah, it's just like after 603 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 1: this happens, does anyone actually listen to it? It's really 604 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: beautiful to hear from you all, um, and thank you 605 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 1: for your detective work on this. A lot of messages 606 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: about this can to you that I I've spoken about. 607 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm very very excited to see if any of them 608 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: are correct. I suspect I suspect one of them must be. Yes, yes, 609 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: uh future legwork. But but good good, yes, good good 610 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: initial initial starching. Thank you so much, Um, Lucas wrote, 611 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 1: was listening to your episode on pimento cheese and it 612 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: brought back some happy memories. See pimento cheese has a 613 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: big part to play in the start of my wife's 614 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: and my relationship. There's a restaurant in Columbia, South Carolina, 615 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: where we were both attending seminary called De Patros, and 616 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: it had the most amazing pimento cheese. Dip with wonderfully 617 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: crispy on the outside, chewy on the inside pea chips 618 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: that we would always get. We had been good friends 619 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: for some time, but feelings were starting to change, and 620 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to have a conversation with her about trying 621 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: out dating each other. This was the restaurant we went to, 622 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: and over pimento cheese dip and pia chips, we agreed 623 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: we liked each other, and the rest, as they say, 624 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 1: is history. Well, now we're both pastors in northwest Wisconsin 625 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: and in the town where she was serving, there was 626 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: a small town butchery grossery store called a Butchery Shop, 627 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: and what do you know, they sold pimento cheese. I 628 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: was so surprised when she came home with a container 629 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: of it because I'd always thought of pimento cheese as 630 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: a Southern thing, like y'all talked about in the episode. 631 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: Now it's a nice little reminder of the South. While 632 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: we're up here, on a kind of related note, I 633 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: wanted to see if y'all would be interested in an 634 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: episode on Loop Fisk. I serve a church that does 635 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: an annual supper centered on Loop Fisk, and there are 636 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: some die hard fans uh non, a Genarian has been 637 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: coming to the supper since it started seventy years ago. 638 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,720 Speaker 1: I've heard it has a very different reception in Scandinavia, 639 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: like a lot of immigrant foods, so that might be cool. 640 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: Same with I'm not sure how to say this left 641 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: left see a kind of potato flatbread creepe. If you 642 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 1: haven't experienced it before, I have not um And, on 643 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: a decidedly unrelated note, I just wanted to share that 644 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: every time y'all open with the question and there's that 645 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: chime where Annie asks X y Z what is it? 646 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: I always picture a dramatic face turned to Lauren and 647 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: a raised eyebrow. I don't know if y'all do that, 648 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 1: but it's my head canon kinda. I always see like 649 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: a sweeping arm gesture. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a 650 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: really big it's a really big opening of the question. Yeah. Also, 651 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: I do I love hearing stories like this of like 652 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: we met or this a mo shual moment or big 653 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: key moment in your lifetime was over a food item 654 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: and now that food yes, forever associated, so wonderful, so 655 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: wonderful it is it is UM. Thanks to those listeners 656 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: for writing in. If you like to write to us, 657 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: you can our emails Hello at savor pod dot com. 658 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: We're also on social media. You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, 659 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: and Facebook at savor pod and we do hope to 660 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: hear from you. Savor is a production of our Heart Radio. 661 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: For more podcasts my heart Radio, you can visit the 662 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to 663 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,439 Speaker 1: your favorite shows. Thanks as always to our superproducers Dylan 664 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 1: Fagan and Andrew Howard. Thanks to you for listening, and 665 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: we hope that lots more good things are coming your way.