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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Morale is high. Made it to a Friday.

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Speaker 1: It's a meat Friday. At that French dip coming off

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Speaker 1: the trigger a little bit later on. Everybody's here but Seaton,

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Speaker 1: he's at home. I'll have his share today. Man, does

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Speaker 1: it smell good this morning? Yeah? Seton, you can take

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Speaker 1: my share of that mountain dew cake you guys are

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Speaker 1: chopping up to. I don't need any of that we got.

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Speaker 1: Paulie got a mountain dew cake for Todd. Todd loves

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Speaker 1: mountain dew. And it's a it's a pie, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's World Kindness Day. Do something nice

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Speaker 1: for somebody, but make sure somebody notices you're doing something

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Speaker 1: nice for him. I thought it looked like maybe one

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Speaker 1: of the holes at Augusta, and you were doing sort

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Speaker 1: of sort of a model of what the whole, like

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Speaker 1: fourteenth hole at Augusta would look like. And I realized, No,

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Speaker 1: that's a mountain dew pie that was baked by Alan,

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Speaker 1: who is our it chef guy. Yeah, pol the cake

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Speaker 1: looks like the Seattle Seahawks color rush uniforms. Let's put

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Speaker 1: it down Yeah, it's like there's a nice like pie

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Speaker 1: crust with some type of toxics. If you set your

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Speaker 1: phone on it, it it will recharge. Yeah, I've never seen

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Speaker 1: that bright a green. It's like kryptonite like times ten. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Just imagine if you want to put a cool lint

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Speaker 1: in your car. This would be the cool lint that

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Speaker 1: you would put in your car. But we got it

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Speaker 1: for Todd later on today if he would like to

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Speaker 1: have it, good God, we don't want to give it

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Speaker 1: to you in the first hour, no telling what it'll

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Speaker 1: do to your inside. And kindness. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: kind that is to the people in that clean their studio.

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Speaker 1: I have that. But yes, it's World Kindness Day. Do

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Speaker 1: something nice for somebody, but make sure that everybody knows

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Speaker 1: you're doing something nice. Don't do it in a subtle

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Speaker 1: private way. According to PAULI let people know you're doing

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Speaker 1: something nice. Yeah. I guess the purpose of a world

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Speaker 1: kind of stay is you do an act, but you

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Speaker 1: make a really grand gesture out of it. You tell

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Speaker 1: people you did it, So it's maybe a self aggrandizement

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Speaker 1: day as well. But I guess it's so it will

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Speaker 1: catch on. So should we all do that for each

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Speaker 1: other today. No, I think just for to I think

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Speaker 1: I think we're one and done. Yes, mclovin. So it's

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Speaker 1: world phony day, is what you're saying. But you're still

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Speaker 1: doing something nice. You just want somebody to know that

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Speaker 1: you're doing something nice. Yeah, which defeats, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: defeats the purpose. Like Pauli's did you do anything nice privately?

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Speaker 1: I've done lots of nice things today, like what you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's a o'clock I plan to do, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna give you. Charity that's done for public is almost

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Speaker 1: worse than no charity. I find the hypocrisy of social

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Speaker 1: media and charity. So when somebody donates a large sum

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Speaker 1: of money and then they tell you they donated, then

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Speaker 1: you have a problem with that. Not necessarily, but I

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Speaker 1: do have a problem with the general mindset of our

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Speaker 1: world where people are just like saying, oh, I'm such

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Speaker 1: a great dude because I did this, yes, ton. It's

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Speaker 1: like when a celebrity or athlete visits a sick kid

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Speaker 1: need to get the publicist, the agent and the manager

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Speaker 1: stations and everyone make sure they got the cameras ready

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Speaker 1: to take a shot. Well, but that's always that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit that's unfair because I've done that before and

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that there would be people in there

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Speaker 1: time I did, I did an a video recorder as

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Speaker 1: well and alert the media. Um. You know, it's like

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Speaker 1: So that's a that's a little bit different. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not like we're alerting the media. I remember talking

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Speaker 1: of those photographers that's following all these celebrities around, and

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Speaker 1: I said, how do you know where they're going to be?

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Speaker 1: And he goes, they tell us. I go, oh, they

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Speaker 1: your job was tough. Yeah, mcglobin. I think I'm like

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Speaker 1: You know, there is a lot of that energy out

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Speaker 1: there where it's more for Instagram than it is for charity. Yes,

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Speaker 1: point well, what if it's altruistic on both sides. Imagine

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Speaker 1: someone like JJ Watt when he did the thing for charity,

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Speaker 1: but by going public with it, Yes, it helps his brand,

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Speaker 1: it helps his CUE rating what he called, but he

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Speaker 1: also gets millions of dollars that he wouldn't have gotten

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Speaker 1: if he did it privately. And also, I think celebrities

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Speaker 1: I just like the idea that it's better to never

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Speaker 1: do anything nice for anyone. Then you can't get accused

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Speaker 1: of being phony. Right, I'm just keeping it real. I

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Speaker 1: don't do anything for anyone ever. Yes, but at least

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Speaker 1: I'm real about it. But but I do it for

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Speaker 1: a good reason. I do it for a good cause,

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Speaker 1: right me? Yeah, I do for myself. All right, we

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Speaker 1: got we got hijacked here. Let me bring it back

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Speaker 1: on to the rails. All right, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: at Augusta at the Masters, and we'll talk to Reese

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Speaker 1: a little bit later on as well. And midway point

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Speaker 1: of the NFL season, Sam Monson, who works for Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus, will give us his halfway point of the

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Speaker 1: season awards. That'll be coming up. Headlines from last night,

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Speaker 1: are you all in on the Colts have you abandoned

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Speaker 1: ship on the Titans. Colts over the Titans thirty four

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Speaker 1: to seventeen. The weekend not a great weekend in college football.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame BC, Indiana, Michigan State, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Northwestern

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Speaker 1: switch I guess over to ABC from what I'm told

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Speaker 1: But getting way ahead of ourselves on this Friday, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty has been obviously the strangest sports calendar in history.

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Speaker 1: But once the game's got going, this was the weekend

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Speaker 1: to have the Masters instead of April in November. Nobody

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Speaker 1: in April. We wanted galleries out there, patrons, but that's

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Speaker 1: not going to happen. But it's a once in a

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Speaker 1: know it's on our plate. Enjoy it. What a weekend,

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Speaker 1: But either way, we're gonna need a lot of time

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Speaker 1: But after everything that's happened. It's more than okay for

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Speaker 1: what should be a memorable sports weekend. When Tiger's on

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Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson, there's certain players that would benefit more from

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Speaker 1: don't have that home course advantage built in at august

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Speaker 1: able to do some things that nobody's ever done at Augusta.

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Speaker 1: But this is what's great about golf. Larry mo Is

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Speaker 1: sixty two years of age. He shot two under. Bryson

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Speaker 1: de Shambo shot two under yesterday. Augusta played as a

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Speaker 1: golf course for everybody, and if you don't hit it long,

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Speaker 1: Bernhard Linger is playing extremely well today. I think he's

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Speaker 1: about it. We've all played with somebody who doesn't hit

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Speaker 1: And then they'll be the guy who just bombs it.

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Speaker 1: But he can't do anything else at Augusta, at least today, yesterday.

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Speaker 1: glov and what do you have for me today? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Who finishes first or higher? I don't know. He's a

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Speaker 1: higher or lower Tiger? Woods right and Dschembo Tigers at

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Speaker 1: minus four fire, but you shoot lower right Tiger. Who's

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Speaker 1: gonna have a better week? Tiger or Bryson Dcembo Okay,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Thanks for joining us. Let me start with

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Speaker 1: anything below twenty yards. He's been absolute money and has

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Speaker 1: been doing it in the face of incredible pressure in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is like the king of the volatile stats.

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Speaker 1: So whether it's third down play, whether it's deep throws

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Speaker 1: time throws and those kinds of things the PF charts,

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Speaker 1: He's been a phenomenal at those things, but has missed

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Speaker 1: more regular easy throws, miss more of the kind of

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Speaker 1: consistently easy stuff than Joe Burrow has, and he's been

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Speaker 1: dealing with pressure as well, and it kind of nets

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Speaker 1: out to almost the exact same PF grade overall. What

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Speaker 1: about Clyde Edwards Hilaire his grade in where he probably

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Speaker 1: should have been taken even though he is a running back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that's really the thing is, you know, PF is

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Speaker 1: take a running back in the first round. It's not

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Speaker 1: that they won't ever look good, it's that they just

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Speaker 1: won't justify that draft slot. You could get him later

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Speaker 1: on the draft, or get a comparable player later on

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Speaker 1: the draft, and you'd see the same kind of production.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of what we're seeing from

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Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hilaire. He's great as Okay, he's had good games,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City offense. And when that thing is ticking along,

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Speaker 1: when it's going great, when Mahomes is playing out of

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Speaker 1: his mind and Patch and Andy Reid is scheming up

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Speaker 1: all these plays, Clyde Edwards Hilaire is a good player

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Speaker 1: to have on the receiving end of those catches out

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Speaker 1: of the backfield and be taking the carries. But when

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Speaker 1: things don't go as well, he has those worst games

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Speaker 1: and just doesn't look as good. Running Backs are basically

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Speaker 1: a product of their environment within the offense. He's Sam Munson,

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, lead NFL analyst. Who do you consider

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Speaker 1: the best running back in the NFL film? I think

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Speaker 1: right now it's Dalvin Cook. Again, what I just said,

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Speaker 1: running backs are buying large a product of their environment.

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Speaker 1: He's the one guy this season that isn't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's been massively overperforming what the Vikings have been giving

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Speaker 1: him in terms of, you know, yards, he has by far,

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Speaker 1: I think, the most yards after contact in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and only himself and Derrick Henry have more totally yards

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Speaker 1: than Dalvin Cook has yards after contact. He's just consistently

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Speaker 1: generating an incredible amount of yardage off his own back,

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Speaker 1: beyond what is being blocked for him. We brought this

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Speaker 1: you could have any wide receiver for the next five years,

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Speaker 1: who do you think they picked? Dk Yea. Yeah, did

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Speaker 1: his slippage in the draft and his profile was just

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Speaker 1: based off he looks like he should be great, but

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Speaker 1: he's always injured. Is that what it boiled down to. No,

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Speaker 1: I think there were legitimate concerns about his change of

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Speaker 1: It was, you know, historically bad, and he fixed it

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Speaker 1: a little bit at his pro day, Like he got

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Speaker 1: bit and they don't let you take it again. So

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Speaker 1: it was a bad time there. He improved it at

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Speaker 1: his pro day, but it still wasn't good. It was

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Speaker 1: still a concern, as was his twenty shuttle time. So

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Speaker 1: anything that was trying to measure change of direction he

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Speaker 1: was really bad at. And I think that leads you

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Speaker 1: to think, well, okay, does that limit him at the

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Speaker 1: next level to just being this linear vertical threat guy

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Speaker 1: who can't really run the entire route tree. Even considering that,

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Speaker 1: I think most draft analysts had him going higher than

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Speaker 1: he went in the draft. It was still a shock

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Speaker 1: to see him slip as far as he did, but

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Speaker 1: I think there were real concerns about, you know, a

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Speaker 1: missing component to his game that has been changed that

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Speaker 1: aren't that isn't a missing component anymore. When does Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus do a deep dive into Trevor Lawrence and

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Speaker 1: Justin I mean, we've got guys cranking on that right now.

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Speaker 1: We do. We grade every college game as well, so

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Speaker 1: we've got grades on all of these guys. Mike Renner

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Speaker 1: is our big draft guy. He's been the guy grinding

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Speaker 1: on that every single game of those guys careers. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we have a specific deep dive

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Speaker 1: article up on the site, but we've definitely got data

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Speaker 1: on all those guys right now. Are they working in

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Speaker 1: that room behind that door behind you. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: room that goes downstairs into a basement where there's just

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Speaker 1: one little light hanging out of the ceiling. That's where

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Speaker 1: we put all the analysts. Worst starting quarterback in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Is who the worst starting quarterback? I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: you can say it was Dwayne Haskins before he lost

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Speaker 1: his job. Now it's it's going to be a battle

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Speaker 1: between you know, Sam Darnold in New York Drew Locke

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Speaker 1: in Denver hasn't shown enough really to get out of

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Speaker 1: that conversation. It's it's those kind of young guys that

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Speaker 1: have have disappointed in bad situations so far. And I

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Speaker 1: thought this was Drew Locke's coming out party and they

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Speaker 1: had weapons, and here we go with Drew Locke. I know,

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Speaker 1: we got injured, but it feels like Sam that the

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Speaker 1: window of opportunity is about two years. Like Baker Mayfields

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Speaker 1: in his third year and it feels like he's playing

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Speaker 1: for his future in Cleveland. Are you guys getting the

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Speaker 1: sense of how long that window is for a quarterback

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Speaker 1: to prove himself. I think you know, this run of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that have been successful right away have definitely changed

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Speaker 1: the opinion of how long you get, and if you

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Speaker 1: don't show something almost right away, you have to fight

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Speaker 1: pretty hard for that job, particularly if you're not a

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Speaker 1: top pick. You know, if you're a first you're number

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Speaker 1: one overall pick, you get a little bit more time

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Speaker 1: to show something. But if you're not, you know, you

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Speaker 1: get a year or two and then we got to

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Speaker 1: move on. It's it's time to find the next guy,

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Speaker 1: because it's not the landscape is different to the way

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Speaker 1: it was a decade ago. You're not in a spot

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Speaker 1: anymore where you have to give Alex Smith one hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollar contract because the prospect of not having Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith is so terrifying. You can find those guys pretty

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Speaker 1: easily now, and so teams are much more emboldened to say,

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Speaker 1: all right, this guy is not a Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: he's not the next all pro we need. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: cut bait and move on to the next guy. Do

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Speaker 1: you remember when we sort of took a player for

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Speaker 1: granted the way we do Patrick Mahomes And this feels

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Speaker 1: like the embryonic stages of Michael Jordan's greatness when he

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Speaker 1: had team's success. Prior to that, he was sort of

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Speaker 1: just a highlight reel phenomenon. Then they started winning and

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Speaker 1: it felt like we got bored with this story. And

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Speaker 1: then Karl Malone won an MVP and Charles Barkley won

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Speaker 1: an MVP. I don't are we at that stage with

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes where? And I know Russell has played extremely well,

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Speaker 1: But are we at the point where we're taking Patrick

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Speaker 1: mahomes were granted and I'll give you one in the

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Speaker 1: NFL as well? I think we've already passed that point

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Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald. I think you know, Aaron Donald should

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Speaker 1: have won every Defensive Player of the Year award since

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Speaker 1: his rookie season. So not the rookie season, but everyone

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Speaker 1: since then should have gone Aaron Donald, and they haven't

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Speaker 1: because we've just gotten bored giving the award to Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 1: who is by far and away the best defensive player

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think he's the best player. How

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Speaker 1: do you gauge that, though, Sam? I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: it's how much further ahead is he than the rest

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Speaker 1: of his peers at his position? Right? So it's it's

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Speaker 1: really hard to compare positions to say the best defensive

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Speaker 1: lineman in the NFL is better than the best linebacker

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Speaker 1: is better than the best safety, the best receiver. So

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Speaker 1: let's just stick to his position group and say how

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Speaker 1: much better is he than Fletcher Cox or Chris Jones

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Speaker 1: or whoever else the next interior guy is. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's light years ahead of those guys when you

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Speaker 1: consider how much more pressure he gets, how much more

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Speaker 1: pressure he gets on a rate basis, and how much

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Speaker 1: more he's double team than some of those guys and

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Speaker 1: still doing that. It's absolutely unbelievable. And just in terms

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Speaker 1: of PF grading, you know, the top ex seasons in

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Speaker 1: terms of PF grades on the interior have all been Donald.

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Speaker 1: It's just a list of Aaron Donald seasons that vary slightly.

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Speaker 1: So I think you're right, though, I think Mahomes is

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Speaker 1: reaching that category where you need to watch him again

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Speaker 1: to remind yourself that like this isn't normal. Most quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: don't do this, and we should remember that this guy

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Speaker 1: is a singularly unique talents otherwise we will get bored

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Speaker 1: within the same way we do with Aaron Donald. Sam

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Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Thank you very much. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Sam Munson, Pro Football Focus lead NFL analyst. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern

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Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you

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Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR, or

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Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. Recent company will

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Speaker 1: be at Augusta, which is where Sam Farmer the La Times,

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Speaker 1: he covers the NFL, and he moonlights covering the Masters.

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Speaker 1: Here who joins us now? Sam, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I love the article that you had

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Speaker 1: on the sand at Augusta. I thought it would be

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Speaker 1: great for this audience to understand because when we see

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Speaker 1: it it looks like bowls of sugar. Jim Nance is

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Speaker 1: referred to it that way. I just didn't know to

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Speaker 1: what lengths they went to bring this sand in. So

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Speaker 1: can you give us sort of the cliff notes version

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Speaker 1: of that? Yeah, Dan, thanks for having me on. So

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Speaker 1: the sand is from a place called Spruce Pine, North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: which is four hours north of Augusta. And really it's

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Speaker 1: some of the most valuable sand in the world, or

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Speaker 1: at least it's a byproduct of some of the most

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Speaker 1: valuable sand in the world. Spruce Pine Geological Mineral District

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Speaker 1: has the purest quartz in the world. It has the

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Speaker 1: fewest impurities, and they use that quartz to create computer chips.

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Speaker 1: And so, whereas quartz sand would typically sell for about

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Speaker 1: fifty dollars a ton, the sand and spruce pine sells

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Speaker 1: for about twenty thousand dollars a ton. And so you

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Speaker 1: can imagine the secure of the companies up there. These

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Speaker 1: multinational corporations have convened on this little town in the

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Speaker 1: Blue Ridge Mountains, this little mountain town, and they're like

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Speaker 1: Wonka factories up there, protecting, protecting this sand. Well, the

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Speaker 1: sand that is a waste product or sort of not

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Speaker 1: quite as pure has become the sand they use at Augusta.

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Speaker 1: And it dates back to Clifford Roberts, the co founder

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Speaker 1: of the club, having a summer home up there, loving

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Speaker 1: this white sand that's just so sparkly and pure looking,

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Speaker 1: and wanting that for his club. And it's become so

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Speaker 1: coveted that Spruce Pine ships recently shipped about four thousand

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Speaker 1: tons if you can imagine that volume, four thousand tons

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Speaker 1: of this to Dubai, So imagine selling sand to the desert. Well,

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Speaker 1: that this sand is so valuable and so coveted and

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Speaker 1: so sort of has so much sentimental value that And

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Speaker 1: you know a few years ago a guy was arrested

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Speaker 1: here at the Masters for trying to fill his beer

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Speaker 1: cup full of sand, and so, uh wait, did he

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Speaker 1: slip inside the ropes and then just scoop it up

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Speaker 1: from us? Accidentally he accidentally fell under the ropes and

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Speaker 1: then he accidentally crawled over to a buger And how

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Speaker 1: much how much did they accidentally find him for that?

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Speaker 1: They accidentally find him twenty thousand dollars and they haven't

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Speaker 1: rectified that yet. So they accidentally handcuffed him and brought

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Speaker 1: him to the ground, and and it was quite a

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Speaker 1: quite a scene. So anyway, this uh spruce pine sand

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Speaker 1: is really cool and a lot of people really confuse

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Speaker 1: it for all different types of minerals or you know,

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Speaker 1: they don't know where it comes from. But sam, I

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Speaker 1: think they do. It sort of compacts very nicely. It's

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Speaker 1: very fine, and you know, they feel I can hit

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Speaker 1: off it, although Tiger said he feels like borrowing his

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Speaker 1: Caddy sunglasses every time he's in the bunker. It's so

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Speaker 1: bright and so reflective. When I played Augusta, I did

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Speaker 1: steal one of my divots. I don't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they will come after you if you steal some grass.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a long time ago that I played,

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Speaker 1: but I remember hitting an approach shot on either thirteen

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Speaker 1: or fifteen and I went, man, that almost looks like

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Speaker 1: a professional divot. I'm taking I'll put it in my bag.

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Speaker 1: Got home years later I go, oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: kept this up divot and I had it in my

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Speaker 1: bag there. So I don't know if if they police that, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I would imagine they do. It's interesting. I

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Speaker 1: believe it was Sean Powell as sportswriter Sean Powell, whose

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Speaker 1: first two rounds of golf came at peb will beat

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Speaker 1: and I'll imagine your first two rounds golf A Double

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Speaker 1: Beach and Augusta his first two rounds of golf because

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Speaker 1: he played at the US Open, the US Open Media Day,

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Speaker 1: and then he won the lottery here at Augusta to

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Speaker 1: play on the Monday after the Masters. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Pretty much want to call it a career after that?

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Speaker 1: Just get Pine Valley in and call it a career.

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Speaker 1: Sam Farmer, la Times writer. He covers the NFL, host

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Speaker 1: of Artificial Friends podcast. Here we were talking about Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: Michael Irvin did an interview last night and he said,

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Speaker 1: I'll see in five years at the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: is Philip Rivers. Let me just start with, is he

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Speaker 1: headed to the Hall of Fame and is he a

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Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer? Well, in my book, he's

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Speaker 1: the first ballot Hall of Fame guy. One of my

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Speaker 1: favorite players ever covering Philip Rivers, and certainly it's going

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Speaker 1: to haunt him that he had warning track power with

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. They had some really good teams, especially two

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Speaker 1: thousand and six, going fourteen and two and then losing

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Speaker 1: in the Division round their first game. You know, they

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Speaker 1: never took it beyond although he played really well in

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Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game against the Patriots, had him I

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Speaker 1: think it's a one score game into the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: and he's playing on a torn acl So you know,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough argument. As a first ballot

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, you've got to see who's going in

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Speaker 1: in that class along with him. But as a person,

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Speaker 1: there's no better guy. And it's it surprises a lot

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Speaker 1: of people because they see him on the field and

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Speaker 1: being so uh, you know, throwing temper, tantrums on the

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Speaker 1: field and everything, but he is the the greatest guy.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you a little Philip Rivers story. He had

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Speaker 1: to do a he committed to do a men's retreat,

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Speaker 1: and he's very devout in his Catholicism, a men's retreat

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Speaker 1: in Arizona. When he was in San Diego and there

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Speaker 1: was a weather problem or something something happened with the flight,

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Speaker 1: so he couldn't make it. And most every guy would

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Speaker 1: call and apologize and say sorry, I couldn't make it.

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Speaker 1: This guy hops in his pickup truck, makes the drive

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Speaker 1: to Arizona overnight, does the talk, drives back, so he

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Speaker 1: does about fourteen hours of driving just so he can

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Speaker 1: make good on that commitment. So he's you know. I

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Speaker 1: remember he and his wife took a vacation, a staycation

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Speaker 1: to the Hotel Del Coronado one time, and as they

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Speaker 1: were checking in this beautiful hotel in San Diego, Dwayne

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Speaker 1: Wade was checking in at the same time, and they

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Speaker 1: sort of caught eyes and Dayne Wade gave him a

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Speaker 1: head nod like that. Philip talked about it for a

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Speaker 1: week to his wife, saying Dwayne Wade knew and He's

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Speaker 1: the guy who nodded to me. He knew who I was.

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Speaker 1: Did you see that? And so it's sort of that

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Speaker 1: tells you a lot about Philip Rivers. He's so unimpressed

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Speaker 1: with himself that he will That will go down as

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Speaker 1: one of his greatest moments that Dwayne Wade recognized him

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Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers with the Pro Bowl Quarterbacks. So again,

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Speaker 1: hall of Fame guy and probably a Hall of Fame player,

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Speaker 1: but I'd sort of need to know who was around

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Speaker 1: him at that time. Best team in California right now too, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Chargers are so talented, they can't they

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Speaker 1: can't win games, so I can't give it to them,

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Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers are so broken down. I

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Speaker 1: would have to say the Rams. But you really have

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Speaker 1: to wonder if teams shut down the running game the

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Speaker 1: way that Miami did and put it on Jared Goff's shoulders,

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Speaker 1: is he going to be able to come through for you?

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Speaker 1: And I think we'll know a lot coming out of

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Speaker 1: this out of this by how the Rams are, how

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Speaker 1: they recover their playing Seattle. Sean mcvay's four and two

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Speaker 1: against Pete Carroll and those two losses came by a

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Speaker 1: total of seven points. He's six and oh against Arizona,

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Speaker 1: and so we're going to learn a lot about this division.

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Speaker 1: But you know, four other five wins have come against

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Speaker 1: NFC East teams and NFC East I think I wrote

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Speaker 1: that NFC East wins have all the gravitas of packing peanuts.

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Speaker 1: So we just don't know how good how good these

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Speaker 1: teams are and we're going to find out in the

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Speaker 1: second half of the season. And I mentioned this, I'll

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Speaker 1: leave you with this. I don't know if we're getting

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Speaker 1: to the Jordan treatment of Patrick Mahomes where what else

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Speaker 1: can we say? What else can we write? Now we're

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Speaker 1: looking at hey is Kyler Murray an MVP candidate Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson deserves to be in the conversation. I think when

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Speaker 1: people look at Mahomes's numbers, they go, oh, my god,

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Speaker 1: how do we bypass that? Like we just skipped by

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Speaker 1: that because we're like, oh, it's Mahomes, He's really good.

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Speaker 1: And I and you guys love to write a good

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Speaker 1: story here. And that goes into when people vote vote.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you're voting because you're voting for the best story.

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Speaker 1: Have we is there Mahomes fatigue already. It's funny. Mahomes

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Speaker 1: is so good that the little things that you used

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Speaker 1: to do that would have blown us away, switching hands

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Speaker 1: or rolling out and making these incredible passes, it's almost

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Speaker 1: worked against him because now we say, oh, yeah, that's Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: We've seen it, seeing it, you know, and he's still

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Speaker 1: doing things that are that are unbelievable. You know. I

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Speaker 1: think back I talked to Bruce Arians about Patrick Mahomes

756
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Speaker 1: because Cardinals really wanted to draft him when Bruce was there,

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Speaker 1: and Bruce said, you know, he's one of the four

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Speaker 1: smartest guys on the board I've ever had. And I said, well,

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Speaker 1: who are the guys and he said, well, you know

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Speaker 1: Peyton and i'd certainly say Andrew Luck putting him up

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Speaker 1: on the board, and Patrick Mahomes. And I said, he said, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you the fourth guy, he said,

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Speaker 1: because every other guy I coached will think he's the

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Speaker 1: guy that's perfect. But yeah, Mahomes is great. And not

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Speaker 1: to belabor this, but I think it really if you

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Speaker 1: look back at the NFC West and you mentioned two

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Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks there, I think the NFC West fits

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Speaker 1: in two very distinct buckets. You've got the play action

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Speaker 1: good defense teams in LA with the Rams in San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: and you've got the shortstop type quarterback who each quarterback

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Speaker 1: played baseball and who makes things happen in Seattle and Arizona,

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Speaker 1: and really defenses that leave something to be desired. So

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see in the second half of

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Speaker 1: this season, when these teams aren't playing each other, which

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Speaker 1: side prevails. Have fun down there, Sam, It's great to

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Speaker 1: catch up with you. Thanks for joining us. Great thanks Dan,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be

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Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine to

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00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at

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00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,200
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00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,000
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Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock Act. Of course, that's a

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Speaker 1: smooth segue to Scott Van Pelt, host is Sports Center,

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Speaker 1: And you want in on this van peas you want

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Speaker 1: mustard or mayo. I'm gonna order off the menu and

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Speaker 1: just get some ranch and call it a day. Some

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Speaker 1: chicken fingers and ranch dressing. Bang about that I'm team

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Speaker 1: Mayo though. This this, this Mayo slander is an amazing

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00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: national sort of thing that people are antime. Here's it's

791
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: life simple, Dan, you know this. You know this well,

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Speaker 1: Eat what you like to eat, don't eat what you

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00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: don't like to eat. The end. What are you eating

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Speaker 1: down in Augusta. I just had a chicken sandwich with

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Speaker 1: Curtis Strange and um and it was just spectacular. I'm

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00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: trying what I'm trying to figure out right now. Dan

797
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: is like, it's the it's the old adage. One is

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Speaker 1: too many in ten isn't enough. I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the I don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the sweet bought is here because we we're going

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Speaker 1: back on the air here in a couple of hours,

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Speaker 1: and I'm afraid if I eat another two or three

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Speaker 1: that I may be slumbering in the in the bubbler cabin,

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00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: which is not a good look. What was your big

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Speaker 1: takeaway from yesterday? Just that the golf course was absolutely

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Speaker 1: as gettable as it will ever be. The conditions were,

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00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: the rain, it was like a perfect It was the

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00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: perfect such set up for these players because the rain

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Speaker 1: comes through, then it leaves it's still it's soft and

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Speaker 1: these they just annihilated it. And it wasn't that someone shot,

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Speaker 1: you know, sixty two, it's how many guys shot sixty

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Speaker 1: eight to sixty five, including Bernhard Longer who's sixty three

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Speaker 1: years old. I mean, it was amazing display of scoring

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Speaker 1: and what that essentially did was kept I don't know

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Speaker 1: thirty guys in it, you know. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: were like Rory mcloy, was just such a jarring thing

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Speaker 1: to see him play as poorly as he did, considering

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Speaker 1: that basically every other top player in the world was read.

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Speaker 1: But I'm curious about Bryson Deshambo and how other players

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Speaker 1: think of him. Patrick Reid. We kind of know how

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Speaker 1: they feel about Patrick Reid. But is is Ryson Deshambo

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Speaker 1: polarizing the person or the player? I think so because

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Speaker 1: I think I think what guys I don't think this.

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Speaker 1: I know this. I know what they roll their eyes about.

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Speaker 1: Is this sort of you know, suggestion that you know

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Speaker 1: he's got. It's like this math equation to be figured out,

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Speaker 1: you know. And even when he talked to Ronaldi after

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Speaker 1: the round yesterday, it was like, yeah, I was at

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Speaker 1: forty seven percent, like it was a three degree Like,

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Speaker 1: what are you even talking about? Man? Like speak English?

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Speaker 1: I mean you're talking, you're talking in math equations that

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Speaker 1: the rest of us mortals don't grasp. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you the fatigue, Like, let me, let me make one

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Speaker 1: thing clear. They all respect the hell out of his game,

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Speaker 1: and they know he's he's a problem. Okay. I mean

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Speaker 1: he was an amateur champion and an NCAA champion, and

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Speaker 1: they thought he was going to be good to begin with.

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00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: Then he gains all this muscle and he starts hitting

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Speaker 1: the ball, you know, thirty yards beyond anybody else. But

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00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: the fatigue is, all right, let's what are we doing?

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00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: Like I get Tiger being the topic when he shows up.

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00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 1: He won fifteen of these things, all right, the guy

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00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: won one, and now he's the only thing that anyone

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00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: can talk about. Like that's kind of their reaction. And

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00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: if you're going to ask Dustin Johnson about someone else,

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Speaker 1: he's just gonna look at you like, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: not really that interested in him as a topic. So

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Speaker 1: I think just the amount the tonnage of conversation about

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Speaker 1: him is would push his guys back a bit. Well,

850
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: we also had that with Tiger where I knew that

851
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: there was Tiger fatigue when I was talking to a

852
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: player who would won a major and he started the

853
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: conversation by saying, give me your Tiger questions. Now let's

854
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: get him out of the way. I don't know if

855
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: that's the feeling you're getting or we're going to get. Yes.

856
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: With Bryon, yes, I think you've already gotten that. And

857
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: again with Tiger, it was because he won, you know,

858
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: any so fast, and you know, in in Bryson's case,

859
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: it's he won the most recent one. And all credit

860
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: to him. He was, you know, remarkable at wingfoot. None.

861
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: None of what I'm saying is minimizing what he is

862
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: or you know, attempting to. It's simply trying to frame

863
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: it as what it is. It's it's one and people

864
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: think they'll be more, and there might be. Um, but

865
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: this is kind of what we do with anything. Now. Um.

866
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: We we've got we gotten to the point where and

867
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, with Lebron, if you win a title, does

868
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: this mean that he's he's the same as Jordan. Well,

869
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: I mean I can count, you know, and I can

870
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: I'm not counting to as many now that we can,

871
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: we can count other things too, right. I just think

872
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: any like one equals it's like dog years now one

873
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: equals seven somehow, um, and that's what we just we

874
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: need to be capable of talking about more than one thing.

875
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: I was listening to h Golf Channel Live at the

876
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: Master's last night following the round. Justin Leonard was on,

877
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: and I thought he brought up a great analogy for Tiger.

878
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 1: Tiger used to be Nolan Ryan. He would just blow

879
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: people away. There was nobody like him. He was this phenomenon,

880
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: and now he's more like Greg Maddox that he has

881
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: to kind of outthink you and massage a golf course

882
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more. And I thought it was really

883
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: thought out because for Tiger, he sort of did that yesterday.

884
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: You're not going to overpower a golf course and he

885
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: might not reach the par fives in two, but the

886
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: thinking man Tiger is equally as dangerous. And I think

887
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: that's what stood out to me yesterday. Yeah, that's that's

888
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: what Justin said. That's that's phenomenal because it's it's I

889
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: feel like it's really accurate. You know, there was a

890
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: time there around two thousand Pebble Beach where he was

891
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: throwing it one hundred and ten, you know, and no

892
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: one could sniff it and now and last year, I mean,

893
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 1: but he didn't. It wasn't that he had a gear

894
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: no one else had. Last year he won kind of

895
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: the way Jack one and eighty six. You know, people

896
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: we get nostalgic and think about what Jack did and

897
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: it was tremendous, but we don't always acknowledge the role.

898
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: That's Sevy washing line on fifteen and Greg making a

899
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: number of mistakes down the line helped give him that

900
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't he was earned, but there was help. Well,

901
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: the same thing happened with Tiger last year. Just his

902
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: presence alone was enough to kind of jam up everybody

903
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: else's radar. And so Tiger can't throw one hundred and five,

904
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 1: but he can beat you from one ninety. And that's

905
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: I love the analogy because it makes sense. And especially

906
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: here Dan, as you as you know, you're familiar with

907
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: this place. There's a lot of understanding what you need

908
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: to do. And he better than anyone else other than

909
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: maybe Phil. He understands what's what was being asked of him,

910
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: and he had the answers on Thursday. He was really

911
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: good he didn't do anything bad. And you know, right

912
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: there in the mix Scott Van Pelt, host of Sports

913
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: Center with SPP joining us from Augusta. He's got hosting

914
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: duties down there. Without patrons there, that's a big advantage

915
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: for some and like Tiger, like they want to they

916
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: want to be part of this story there or is

917
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: it you know, is that a big advantage when you're

918
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: playing with Tiger and that crowd. Whatever Tiger does, it

919
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: feels like those roars and you you know this. You

920
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: could hear a roar and go, oh, okay, that's not

921
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: a Tiger. Oh you hear a roaring, go oh oh,

922
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: that's for Tiger. You know. It's just that cacophony of

923
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: sound that stands out. And I don't know what that

924
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,959
Speaker 1: would do or you know, has done to these guys,

925
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: these fellow competitors there at Augusta when they're with Tiger,

926
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: you're you're one hundred percent right about that. You know

927
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: who it is, you know where it is, and you

928
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: know what it was immediately, Like you hear a certain

929
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: roar and you're like, oh, bleep, that I was Tiger.

930
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: He's on thirteen. He might he made eagle and in

931
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: a weird way. You kind of you're not getting intel, right,

932
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: You're not getting the feedback that you would otherwise get

933
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: from the golf course. Um. I just I know that

934
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: to a man, those the people who have played here,

935
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: um a number of years, they all miss it because

936
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: they all felt like they had an energy that was

937
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: provided to them that would that they fed off of.

938
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: And now it's it's like you've heard guys in the

939
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: NFL and other sports say you got to bring your

940
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: own energy, you got to bring your own juice. So

941
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: the guys I think it would really favor. Are any

942
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: of these young guys a wolf for more Akawa? Anyone

943
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: who's never played here, they've got nothing to compare it too.

944
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: And so I'll just the number of the players that

945
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: I asked initially, I'm like, what do you think? And

946
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: they're all like, God, it's so weird. It's so eerie

947
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: being out here in a place that's typically filled with

948
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people and now it's just crickets.

949
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: So I think the energy, I think it's an advantage

950
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: to anybody that doesn't know what it otherwise feels like, Yeah,

951
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: it feels like that we get to be a voyeur

952
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: with a practice round. I mean, that's that's really just

953
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: a feeling. I get A serious question, is you've come

954
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: to expect with this program, Paulie, do you want to

955
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: offer this up to a Van Scott. We're watching the

956
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: coverage all day yesterday. Great job as always, but we're

957
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: noticing a lot more earth tones, browns, greens, grays, less

958
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: white pants. Is that because of the time of year.

959
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I thought yesterday was a was

960
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: a triple bogeye day from the golf manufacturing community. I thought, like,

961
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: just it was horrible. I mean, what are we doing?

962
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. There were the shirts and slack combos

963
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: yesterday was like seventy six ish, right, I mean how many?

964
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm not one of those guys. It's like, oh,

965
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: I got to run out to the sporting goods store

966
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: and get the gear. I mean, obviously they're going to

967
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: send it to me for free, because that's you know,

968
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: because I know Dan. But I'm looking at him yesterday

969
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: and going, who would wear any of this? What are

970
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: we doing? I thought it was. I mean, I am

971
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: I on an island here. You can't wear tope in

972
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: November at Augusta tope is not a golf color, right,

973
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm with you. I was. I mean, even

974
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: though they're you don't need a zaleas to wear like

975
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 1: a pink or a purple or something like. Let's jazz

976
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: it up, guys. It was drab. But you know what

977
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean. Let me tell you, dan on the red

978
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: was the color of the day on the leaderboards. Turnative

979
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: anerall right, I just went vannerle right on you. Biard

980
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: looked like Christmas Day at Augusta rid on the leaderboard

981
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: and green all around at Budge vannerall do you have

982
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: to be careful in how you describe things at Augusta

983
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: as opposed to any other golf tournament that you're involved in.

984
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm not everyone sort of. I think you govern yourself

985
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: in the same way you do you ever, like we

986
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: didn't grow well. I was not some rich kid growing up.

987
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: I had friends that were wealthy, and when you went

988
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: to their house, you just made sure not to do

989
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: something stupid. That's all. You just you govern yourself the

990
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: way you would when you go to a nice restaurant

991
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: or somewhere that's nice. And like when we when we

992
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: would cover the open on the ESPN. Well, we called

993
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: it the Open Championship because they did, and we would

994
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: call the group's games because that's what they call them. Well,

995
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: we call them patrons here in the first and second

996
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: nine because that's the language they use here. And I

997
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: get that people, you know, they want to roll their

998
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: eyes and say, oh, you know you're you know you're

999
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: following these this sense of you know, you can't step

1000
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: out a line. No. I just I think you behave

1001
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: the way you do when you go a nice place.

1002
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to be the guy that

1003
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: puts his feet on the couch. I remember saying uh

1004
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: one time, either a sand trap or a bunker, and

1005
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: I was corrected by somebody who sent me a letter.

1006
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: And you know or whatever a chip or something, picture chip,

1007
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: a picture chip. Listen, like golf guy or gal golf person.

1008
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: They just get insufferable with that and it's not necessary,

1009
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: you know, if you if you get the well, don't

1010
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: say he hit a birdie. Like if you say that,

1011
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: that sort of nails on a chalkboard. But I don't

1012
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: think that's a mistake either either of us would make.

1013
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: But I mean again, it's just it's a special place

1014
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: in it, and I think it makes everybody feel a

1015
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: little different and probably be on their best behavior. All right, No,

1016
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: you gotta go, you're busy, You're important there. Thanks for

1017
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: joining us. Have a good weekend. Thank you, Bun always

1018
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: my pleasure. You guys, be good until next time. That's

1019
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: Scott Van Pelt, host is Sports Center. Thanks for listening

1020
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch

1021
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or

1022
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,359
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1023
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,760
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1024
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,640
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1025
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:22,400
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1026
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock app. College Game Day is

1027
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: set to originate from the Masters Tournament. That'll be tomorrow,

1028
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: and who would have thought He host is Rhese Davis,

1029
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: joined by Kirk curb Street, Desmond Howard, David Pollock, and

1030
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: the Bear Chris Felika will be there. Maria Taylor is

1031
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: going to be there. Tom Rinaldi he's going to bring

1032
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: his piano down there and probably have a heartwarming story

1033
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: as well. But I bring in the great Rhys Davis,

1034
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: who joins us his sixth year as ESPN College Game

1035
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: Day host, and the hair looks great. Rees, well done, weldone,

1036
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: well done. Doing the best again is their friends and

1037
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: family just count on the Dan Patrick callender if I

1038
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: want to order one of those or not. I don't

1039
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: think you want it. I don't think you want to

1040
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: be involved in this. Like you're you're above this, You're

1041
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: better than this. I do have a public apology. For years,

1042
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: I thought Rhees Davis went to Arkansas. I thought you

1043
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: went to Arkansas. And I don't know why I thought

1044
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: that all those years at ESPN, I thought you always

1045
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: talked about Arkansas for some reason. Let's see, I keep

1046
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: it on the low a little bit. That's the best

1047
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: compliment I can get is when people I don't know

1048
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: that I went to Alabama instead, but I get you

1049
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: know what, I get a lot Dan is from Alabama.

1050
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: People you don't represent anywhere. Well, Herbs Street got that

1051
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: with Ohio State, like you don't say enough nice things

1052
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: about Ohio State exactly, You're never gonna satisfy. All right,

1053
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: tell me how the idea came to Fruition that College

1054
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: Game Day was going to go to Augusta. Well, the

1055
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: tournament was moved in November, and we always look for

1056
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: opportunities to take the show two places where we haven't been,

1057
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: and the people at Augusta National were very receptive to

1058
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: the idea, and it got floated out really really in

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00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: the summer once we found out that we were going

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00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: to be able to have a show and that there

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00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 1: was going to be a college football season and league

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00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: fitting and a few others asked us, what do you

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00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: think about this idea? And we all love the idea,

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Speaker 1: And I think there's an intersection between golf and college football.

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00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: There are a lot of you know, a lot of

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00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: college coaches that just can't wait to get the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to play the course. In fact, the one time that

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Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough to be a guest of Blue Holtz,

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00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was a whole college football coaches

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00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: convention there that weekend. So I think there's a normal

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00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: and a crossover that sort of resonates for people, and

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00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to do something that probably won't won't

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00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: ever happen again. To be able to do a football

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00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: show from the Masters in November. Tricky though, with players

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Speaker 1: playing in the event. Will you have players who will

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00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: join you on set. We're attempting that right now, or

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00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: if not on set because of some COVID nineteen protocol

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00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: sanitized things like that, at least to have interviews with him.

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Speaker 1: And we have, as you mentioned, Tom Ernudi Gimojahowski, both

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00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: on the course, who would be able to do some

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00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: of those for us. So we're we are We're making

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00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: as many connections as we possibly can, and we're hopeful

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00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: that we'll have several guys over the course of the

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00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: three hours Saturday morning join us for the show. I

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00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: talked to Van Pelt about twenty minutes ago. There's certain

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00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: players who feed off that atmosphere, and I'm imagining it's

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00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: the same thing with you in college game day. The

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00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 1: atmosphere and not having you don't have patrons that show

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00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: up for college game day, but the crowd that shows

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00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: up there. How much of that you know? Do you

1091
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: realize is integral with having a great show. It's something

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00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: that we've had to get used to all season, dam

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00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: because we haven't had anybody there this year. And I

1094
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: think the one thing you miss is the instantaneous feedback

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00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: from when you say something that the crowd either likes

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00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: or doesn't like that has been missing. I don't feel

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00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: as if the discussions have been any less energetic or

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00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: anything once we dive into football, but going up to

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00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: the set leading up to the show, that type of feedback,

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Speaker 1: the booze, you know, when you play something nice about

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00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: the team you're playing, all that's missing. So there is

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00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: a little bit of that energy that's gone. So we've

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00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: become accustomed to it over the course of the season

1104
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: not having anybody there watching the show, so that part

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00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: won't be different. The one question I did ask was

1106
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: immediately was are we going to have to watch our

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00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: volume level when we're speaking on Saturday morning and our

1108
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: set position is on the Part three course, And it's

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00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: my understanding that we're in the clear. We're not really

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00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: yellers and screamers anyway, but that we're going to have

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00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: enough physical distance between us and where where the golf

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00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: is going on that will be okay. Do you have

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00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: a golf voice I can I can work on And

1114
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: here's Dan Patrick on seventeen. I was wondering if coach

1115
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: Corso picks who's gonna win the Masters instead of who's

1116
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: gonna you know, his pick for whatever game you guys

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00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: have that that will that will happen. Now, whether there

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00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: is a a headgear representing that player, I don't know

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00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: that has happened before. In the NFL draft, you picked

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Speaker 1: in the number one overall pick and has had head

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00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: thready lightnesses of those players, so that is possible. I

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00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: do not know if that will be a surprise on

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning. It feels like college football is holding its breath,

1124
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: you know, with we just have to get through this.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of this is based off of

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00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: Halloween and you know, students get together and you got

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00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: all these positives. The SEC kind of wiped out this weekend.

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Speaker 1: But as we move forward, how do you see this

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00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: play out race it? I think we will get to

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01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: the finish line, Dan, and I'm glad to see that.

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01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: Bob Bowlsby said that there is some flexibility at least

1132
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Speaker 1: being considered. I know that they do not want to

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01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: push back the new year six games in the college

1134
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: football playoffs, semifinals and the championship, nor should they. That

1135
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: should be a last resort because you want to try

1136
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: to get to the finish line as efficiently as possible.

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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: But I'm glad that they're not being so bound by

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01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: dates that they aren't willing to adjust because nobody's been

1139
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: through these circumstances. It looked as if things were getting

1140
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: a little better, and then you've had the uptick in

1141
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: the cases, and as as big a problem for the

1142
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: teams as the actual positive cases themselves, it's been the

1143
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: contact tracing. You've had a couple of schools that couldn't

1144
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: play this week, and it wasn't because they had a

1145
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: number of guys who are positive. It's because they had

1146
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: too many guys in a certain position group who have

1147
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: been in contact with someone who tested positive. So that

1148
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: aspect of it creates some challenges, and it's been implemented

1149
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: to try to keep as many of the players safe

1150
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: as possible, but it has created some issues in terms

1151
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: of having teams being able to play by being able

1152
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: to field enough alignement or whatever it might be. But

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Speaker 1: could you see them pushing back the date for the

1154
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: college Playoffs selection committee? Therefore, it might allow Ohio State

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: or some of these other schools Pack twelve to be

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01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: able to play a couple of more games, to be

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01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: fair to them, since there's no eighteam playoff here. I

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01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: don't know that they would push back the initial rankings

1159
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: because they've already done so it's already pretty late, and

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01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: I think you'll have a fairly decent sample size, assuming

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Speaker 1: that Ohio State can resume action for them, particularly maybe

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01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: not quite as much for the Pac twelve schools. I

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Speaker 1: would think that you'd almost have to get to a

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01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: situation where it stopped for them to push it back further. Now,

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01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: they might move the games, they might push back in

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01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: the date of the final selection if it were necessary

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01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: to do so. They would probably keep everything an alignment

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01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: if you follow what I mean. If you had to

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01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: push some finals back, it would then stand to reason

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01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: that you probably were also pushing back the final games

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Speaker 1: and therefore the final selections. I think the fervent hope

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Speaker 1: is that they don't have to do any of this,

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01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: but that they are. They're showing a willingness to at

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01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: least evaluate if it's necessary. He's Rhees Davis or the

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01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: mothership ESPN play by Play, but more importantly ESPN College

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01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: Game Day host. Did they already come out with the

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: master's version of ESPN College Game Day? Is that what

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01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: you have on? It's this was I do have something similar.

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Speaker 1: It's from a very good friend of mine from Saint

1180
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: Andrew's Products just north of South Bend, so he came

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01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: up with a little something. I think he has an

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Speaker 1: arrangement with the good people with Augusta National and others

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01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: that provided a pollo for this weekend. So that's contraband,

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01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: is what you're saying. I don't know the answer to that. Actually,

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01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: I actually don't know the answer to that. I certainly hope. Okay,

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01:02:54,400 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: will you have everybody on set dress accordingly as if

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01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: they were patrons there? Will you have some plaid? We

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01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: have some nice colors there. I tried. I tried to

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Speaker 1: choose conservatively and wisely and appropriate for the moment. Now,

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01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: I can't guarantee you what Ronaldi's going to do, and

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01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: herb Street surprisingly has been known to go with a

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01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: little volume on the jacket, so I wouldn't be surprised

1193
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: to see a little something out of him. Do you

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01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: guys get to play? No? Okay? Yea, even the part

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Speaker 1: three that I don't know now. I don't know if

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01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: they'll let us take a couple of swings on the

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Speaker 1: part three, but I don't think anyone's played since we've

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Speaker 1: been here. By the way, how many times do you

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Speaker 1: think over the years here, six years, have you cried

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01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: after a tom or an old epiece? Oh, I'm gonna

1201
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: say over underseat it three and a half probably something

1202
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: like that. But you got dan. I'm a softy now.

1203
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: I can cry at a sentimental moment between a dad

1204
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: and a daughter at a sitcom. So I'm an easy

1205
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: target for that. So I get touched pretty easily. Yeah,

1206
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: when Ronaldi rolls it out and people don't know, but

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Speaker 1: Ronaldi brings his own piano, he plays his own piano,

1208
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: he provides his own theme music, and whenever he starts

1209
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: to dial it up and that voice gets a little whispery,

1210
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: and somebody's lost a limb somewhere. That's all I remember.

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Speaker 1: It's patrons. Okay, all right, you got do? You have

1212
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Speaker 1: the terminology done? You're okay with the jargon? Linstre I

1213
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: do I've gotten I knowing see, I've got an entire

1214
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: list that you can't have the phones there, as you know.

1215
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: But I have studied to make sure and I was.

1216
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: I was fairly good on it to begin with. But

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01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: I do want to be I want to be a

1218
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: good guest. They've been great hosts, so I want to

1219
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: be a guest, proper guest and say things the way

1220
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: they would like them to be set. It's great to

1221
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: see you and my best of the boys have fun.

1222
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,919
Speaker 1: We'll be watching coming up tomorrow morning. Thank you, Rees

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01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: all right, Dan, Thanks buddy. Yeah he's al Bama, not Arkansas.

1224
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: Rhys Davis as an ESPN College Game Day host. Thanks

1225
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

1226
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon

1227
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and

1228
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,400
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