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Speaker 3: A right? Great?

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much. We've been trying to get you'll get

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Speaker 3: following you for the past five years, since twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of the most important elections in

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Speaker 2: Presidential election obviously rolled into the Knights and what but

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Speaker 2: I think I think America's elections in general are compromised.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to I think president Trump won the narrative.

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Speaker 2: Reassure please expect? Well, I flipped twenty nine counties and

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Speaker 2: But the number were reassuring. The numbers were reassuring because

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Speaker 3: Good question, have you reported fraud for your election? Like?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm uniquely positioned to do it. One I know

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Speaker 2: I like hemispheric strategy, is hemispheric strategy, hemispheric strategy, hemispheric defense.

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Speaker 2: The prevailing geopolitical philosophy of Western society has been the

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Speaker 3: Are you in favor of said strategy?

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Speaker 2: Of course? One thousand percent. One thousand percent.

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Speaker 3: Begs the question to me. Are you in your campaign

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not looking for Trump's endorsement in my campaign.

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Speaker 2: Start earlier? Tell the truth.

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Speaker 3: How do you do that?

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Speaker 2: Well, we started earlier, as soon as the last election

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Speaker 2: do you feel about that? I mean, how just in general?

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Speaker 2: What do you think about kidding your kid to grade

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Speaker 2: school and some first or second grade teacher who has

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Speaker 2: a political philosophy about gender or gender, gender pronouns or

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Speaker 2: whatever the case may be from their university or wherever

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Speaker 2: they learned it their political activism, and they teach your

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Speaker 2: child that at the school during the day without your consent.

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I haven't thought about it. He is

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Speaker 3: like twelve weeks old.

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Speaker 2: Right now coming.

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Speaker 3: But now that you plant to see off to think

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Speaker 3: about that, because.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, as a father of four four teenagers

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Speaker 2: what he knows four yeah, fourteenagers, fifteen, fourteen, twelve, and eleven.

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Speaker 2: As a father of four, I wouldn't say it's the

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Speaker 2: issue are most passionate about politically, but it is the

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Speaker 2: most obvious uh or let's say, clear line in the

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Speaker 2: sand about the rights of parents, UH and and the

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Speaker 2: UH the right for parents to have informed consent about

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Speaker 2: what's going on with their children at the school, what

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Speaker 2: they're being taught, but certainly what they're being encouraged to

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Speaker 2: do or not do medically by the school. I mean, frankly,

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Speaker 2: any puberty blockers, you know, you know, even even the

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Speaker 2: way that children are dressing, and and sort of a

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Speaker 2: blurb between you could call mental health services at the school,

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Speaker 2: a conflation between mental health services and gender ideology. These

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Speaker 2: are these should be deeply concerning because it involves our

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Speaker 2: nation's children. So by way of it's our nation's future.

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Speaker 2: And you look at the numbers and you see that

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Speaker 2: in the in the advent of this TikTok instagram, real

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Speaker 2: society and all of the transgender ideology that's been pushed there.

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Speaker 2: The self identification in gen Z is that what gen z?

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Speaker 3: I think?

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Speaker 2: So the self identification of non binary and gen Z

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Speaker 2: has increased tenfold, twentyfold, not a natural increase by any

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Speaker 2: standard of scientific metrics, of any social measurements in history.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the most explosive ideologies that we've seen

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Speaker 2: in the last two hundred years in this country. Not natural,

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Speaker 2: organic at all.

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Speaker 3: I have one question about Trump real quick, because it's

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Speaker 3: kind of off for a second, would you support the

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Speaker 3: president if he pursued a third term?

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Speaker 2: Trump twenty twenty eight sounds good to me. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: like it.

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Speaker 3: What about the twenty second Amendment?

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Speaker 2: There are ways around it, that's for sure. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean that there are ways around it. There are

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Speaker 2: legal bases for him to be able to run for

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Speaker 2: a third term. One he definitely could run his vice president,

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Speaker 2: and that that's always been floated as an idea for

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Speaker 2: presidents who have great approval ratings. They floated it with Reagan,

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Speaker 2: they floated it with Clinton, So you can you can't

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Speaker 2: run his vice president, and that's completely constitutionally legal.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, I hear you. But you know, I would argue,

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Speaker 3: like how that's a that's a controversial view, because it's

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Speaker 3: controversial times truly. But I imagine, I mean that that's causing

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Speaker 3: a lot of stirn concern and fear around why because

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Speaker 3: the president is not as clear to have a third

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Speaker 3: term in this modern time and.

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Speaker 2: Oh really as president the president for who? For Western

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Speaker 2: society or for America or who in the United States.

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Speaker 2: Because it's funny because Zelensky won't even hold a presidential

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Speaker 2: election in Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're talking about the US.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so just the US. We're that's interesting though, that

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Speaker 2: the standard is just for the US because we have

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Speaker 2: a global dollar empire. Hold on, wait a second. We

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Speaker 2: have a global dollar empire in which we pretend we

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Speaker 2: should be the arbiter and the standard bearer for how

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Speaker 2: everybody else runs their country all over the world. So

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Speaker 2: it's funny to then go, oh, but we're just talking

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Speaker 2: about America.

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Speaker 3: Are we really well here?

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Speaker 2: I don't think we are. Well.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I'm saying because here.

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Speaker 2: In China, President G's now president for life.

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Speaker 3: Hold on for a second. I'm talking about your voters.

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Speaker 2: So in other words, oh, my voter should be deeply concerned.

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Speaker 2: My voter should be deeply concerned about what the universal

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Speaker 2: standard is for politics from here to Beijing, because America

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Speaker 2: is deeply involved in the politics from here to Beijing,

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Speaker 2: intimately involved in the politics from here to Beijing. And

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Speaker 2: I do think it's a Baden switch or a sort

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Speaker 2: of three card MONTI to hold America to one standard

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Speaker 2: in this sort of abstract a vacuum. And then go, oh,

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Speaker 2: but in China, President G could be president for life,

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Speaker 2: and that's their choice to make, is it? Because we

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Speaker 2: fund it. So, because here's the thing. If we are

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Speaker 2: diametrically opposed to the idea that a president should have

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Speaker 2: anything more than two terms, then we should decouple from

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Speaker 2: China in all business. If we're going to say on

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Speaker 2: a principal basis that China's formation of government and their

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Speaker 2: support of President g being president for more than he

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Speaker 2: was supposed to be for life, president for life, emperor

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Speaker 2: for life. If that's the case, then we should try

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Speaker 2: and decouple from them and all supply chains and international

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Speaker 2: partnership or business. But we don't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: So in that sense, a lot of people have political opinions,

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Speaker 2: but they never want to put their money where their

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Speaker 2: mouth is. So I guess that's my problem with it.

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Speaker 3: So I guess what do you say to the voting populations,

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Speaker 3: the voter, your voters who are concerned about it.

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Speaker 2: I would say, we are in an asymmetrical war with

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Speaker 2: the CCP. We are in an asymmetrical war with China.

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Speaker 2: It's already begun. It's World War three, and it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's cyber, it's informational, it's cultural, it's chemical, it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's kinetic.

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Speaker 3: And so are you saying that you are encouraging Trump

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Speaker 3: to go for a third term.

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Speaker 2: Because where a war, where a war with China? Is

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Speaker 2: that absolutely okay, absolutely yeah, we are. We are anybody

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Speaker 2: who anybody who, first of all, anybody who pretends like

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Speaker 2: we're not at war with China is not being even

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Speaker 2: remotely honest. The war is right out in the open.

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Speaker 2: The war has been declared. It's not a matter of

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Speaker 2: it's a there's a trade war, there's a trade and

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Speaker 2: economic war. There's an arms race for artificial intelligence supremacy.

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Speaker 2: There's a connect which has the undertones of a KINNECTICU

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Speaker 2: and nuclear war. That's why we are playing chicken with

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Speaker 2: each other's battleships out in the South China Sea. So

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Speaker 2: the pretense for war. We're already further along the track

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Speaker 2: and the kinetic part of the Third World War than

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Speaker 2: we were in the precursor the World War two.

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Speaker 3: At the same time the Trump and she are talking

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Speaker 3: like they are in conversation. They've passating. So it's not

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Speaker 3: like it's an active.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's it's it's it's a it's a wink

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Speaker 2: and nt koy, a gentlemen's agreement that until the guns

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Speaker 2: really start shooting, we're gonna do everything we can to

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Speaker 2: avert the highest level of kinetic warfare. And that's what

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Speaker 2: good leaders should do. I mean, that's I don't even

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Speaker 2: want to say good leaders. I would say leaders who

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Speaker 2: are even remotely interested in their own self preservation would

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Speaker 2: do that. That doesn't make them, that doesn't make them

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Speaker 2: friends or allies or or that doesn't mean that we

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Speaker 2: have peace because they're talking. They're talking because it's their

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Speaker 2: duty to talk. It's there, it's there, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: their duty as the leader of their nations to have

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Speaker 2: some conversation with each other and trying to avert war.

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Speaker 2: And I do think they're trying to avert war. I

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Speaker 2: do think there are other forces who would like to

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Speaker 2: see us go to war. And I do think there

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Speaker 2: is a scenario where war may be inevitable because the

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Speaker 2: two cultures are diametrically opposed in our fundamental beliefs about

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Speaker 2: how government in a country should be constructed. Back to

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Speaker 2: the nationalists populist versus socialist populist dichotomy.

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Speaker 3: Uh, when I make a documentary about China and in

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Speaker 3: the US, let's let's let's return to these. Sure, I am,

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Speaker 3: But I want to go back to a point you

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Speaker 3: brought up earlier, and that is about Republicans. Yes, what

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Speaker 3: do you make of event of the events as of late,

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Speaker 3: divine the Republican Party.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about Israel.

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Speaker 3: I mean this one of like many things like the

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Speaker 3: Epstein Files. Marjorie Taylor Green, Israel. You keep saying Israel,

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Speaker 3: please please, Okay, yeah, you want out of Israel.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you said Epstein Israel, Marjorie Taylor Green Israel.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Epstein Files has become such a such

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Speaker 3: a it's.

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Speaker 2: An Israel issue.

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Speaker 3: So the release of the Epstein files, as it contains

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Speaker 3: to Trump and his involvement, yes, has to do with Israel.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, Well, well let's set that aside for

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Speaker 3: a second. Okay, But there are disagreements within the Republican

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Speaker 3: Party as of lates, So how.

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Speaker 2: Healthy disagreements in the Republican Party.

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Speaker 3: With every party their disagreements fine.

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Speaker 2: So necessary disagreements. For the first time in American history,

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party, that is, who is at least theoretically

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Speaker 2: and philosophically charged with the to to stewart and be

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Speaker 2: the vanguard of American freedom or a republican form of government,

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Speaker 2: has been compromised and has been bought and paid for

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Speaker 2: by special interests in lobbies. The same special interests in

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Speaker 2: lobbies on the other side of the aisle for the

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Speaker 2: most part, same interest, same goal, same agenda, which is

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Speaker 2: a global empire, globalism, the undermining of national sovereignty in nationhood,

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Speaker 2: a borderless society, a society that's borderists either by unfettered,

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Speaker 2: unlimited illegal immigration or unrestricted free trade. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party for the first time in American history,

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Speaker 2: or in the short twenty first century.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there're been divisions time, but in the in

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Speaker 3: the in.

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Speaker 2: The short twenty first century, the Republican Party is going

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Speaker 2: through a true tactonic shift.

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Speaker 3: Yes, where do you find yourself in these divisions?

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Speaker 2: Smack dab in the middle.

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Speaker 3: Explain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm the guy who's pretty uh tries to

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Speaker 2: be the voice of reason and comes from a place

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Speaker 2: of historic, historical fact. As pragmatic as I can be.

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Speaker 2: And I don't say pragmatic to mean moderate or lukewarm

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Speaker 2: on the issue I call the balls and strikes. But

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Speaker 2: but I try and talk about things as they are,

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Speaker 2: not as I wish they were.

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Speaker 3: Can I make a point to say that Trump as

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Speaker 3: a third term is not commonly ir reasonable like agreed

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Speaker 3: upon reasonable, like No.

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Speaker 2: It's the most reasonable thing. It's And I say that

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Speaker 2: because the people, well, I am surprised. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: mean two things, two things. One the first is American

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Speaker 2: politics has become, you know, mostly theater, and so a

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Speaker 2: lot of the people who you would hear, whether they're

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Speaker 2: in the party or they or their political commentators on

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Speaker 2: either side of the aisle, are more invested in the

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Speaker 2: theater of politics than they are the fundamental reality. Our

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Speaker 2: political reality, our political reality in this country is the

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Speaker 2: future of this nation rests upon the edge of a blade.

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Speaker 2: And we are in the beginnings of a third World war.

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Speaker 2: And our national modlinemy is the Chinese Communist Party, and

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Speaker 2: if we if we in American se and the thing

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Speaker 2: about China that I respect, and the thing about China

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Speaker 2: that I recognize to be true. It's not a matter

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Speaker 2: of preference, but a matter of historical fact. China is

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Speaker 2: a much older civilization than ours, and we have to

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Speaker 2: respect our enemies. We have to know our enemies and

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Speaker 2: respect our enemies. China is a much older civilization than ours.

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Speaker 2: They have gone through a number of civil wars, five

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Speaker 2: thousand years of civil wars, so they have they have

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Speaker 2: beaten and broken their own population into what now stands,

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Speaker 2: as you know, a citizenry that has been conditioned to

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Speaker 2: accept tyranny as long as there is a vital or

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Speaker 2: profitable quid pro quo. The people in China, although they

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Speaker 2: may not like tyranny or communism or totalitarianism, they will

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Speaker 2: accept it as long as President G can provide a

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Speaker 2: material rise for the average citizen. And he's been able

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Speaker 2: to do that up until now. Now you know, the

672
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Speaker 2: question is to what lengths will President G go to?

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Speaker 2: And some of this may be kinetics, some of it

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Speaker 2: may just be old fashioned piracy. Some of it may

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Speaker 2: be what you would call neo colonialism. Our liberal friends

676
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Speaker 2: in the university would call Chinese China's current expansion all

677
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Speaker 2: over the world a second iteration of colonialism. There is

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Speaker 2: a proto China colonialism happening around the world. So the

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Speaker 2: point is he has in order to maintain power, and

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Speaker 2: in order for the CCP to maintain power, they have

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Speaker 2: to provide a material uh material high for the Chinese

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Speaker 2: people to avert revolution revolt. Because China has a revolting history.

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Speaker 2: They've been able to do that so far. My point

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Speaker 2: to America is they understand the agreement in China. The

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Speaker 2: people of China and the leadership of China understand the

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Speaker 2: game and the agreement. We don't have that here in America.

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Speaker 2: We are willing to accept tyranny and corruption here in America,

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Speaker 2: whether it benefits us or not. The American people have

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Speaker 2: yet to really step up to the plate and say,

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Speaker 2: as citizens, we demand a value for our citizenship that

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Speaker 2: requires our elected officials to act on our on our

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Speaker 2: interest on the world stage. You understand, because in China's

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Speaker 2: this is another reason why I.

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Speaker 3: Hear you angling for a foreign senate community.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the whole deal. This is why China

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Speaker 2: is a great example. Because I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 2: this is why China is a great example of the

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Speaker 2: paradox in Western society, specifically America. There's a paradox here politically,

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Speaker 2: which is why we can't talk about the politics in

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Speaker 2: America singularly. We have to talk about them on the

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Speaker 2: global states, because we're such a global political entity. China's

702
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Speaker 2: people have been the benefactors of the West's politicians selling them,

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Speaker 2: the Western people's politicians selling Western citizens out. The rise

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Speaker 2: of the CCP and the Chinese Empire is littered with

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Speaker 2: Western receipts, Western money, western blood, Western treasure, Western intellectual property.

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Speaker 2: So our citizens do not have the same relationship to

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Speaker 2: their political leaders or their government as they do in China.

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Speaker 2: China will hold G's feet to the fire and say,

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Speaker 2: we'll play nice. As long as the material wealth, the

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Speaker 2: overall or baseline material wealth of the average Chinese citizen

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Speaker 2: continues to rise. We'll take the the the you know,

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Speaker 2: the the unlimited surveillance, we'll take the censorship, we'll take

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Speaker 2: the you know, the the life president for life, We'll

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Speaker 2: take all of that as long as China continues to

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Speaker 2: come out of the Third World. It was when Henry

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Speaker 2: Kisching during Nixon went in in the seventies. America does

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Speaker 2: not have that sense of of of citizenship, nor that

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Speaker 2: sense of of say so, in our political relationship with

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Speaker 2: our government and our politicians not even close. And in

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Speaker 2: that way, we're losing a war before it even starts.

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Speaker 3: I want to highlight a how do I put it's

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Speaker 3: a battle that were an argument you've been in recently.

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Speaker 3: H there's a town hall I got to see on

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Speaker 3: Facebook where they there was a Republican farm where they

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Speaker 3: shut off your Like, what was that all about? Do

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Speaker 3: you mind? I mean, because I am interested in your

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Speaker 3: voters and the Republican Party here as you're running for

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Speaker 3: us sat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they shut off my mic because I went

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Speaker 2: over the time and that's pretty much the gist of it.

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Speaker 2: But they you know, there are a lot of people

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Speaker 2: in the room that didn't like what I was saying.

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Speaker 2: Pre tell why the Republican Party is the outer bashing

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Speaker 2: of the new World Order. The Republican Party aproposa what

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about in a moment when it comes to

736
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Speaker 2: Israel and Trump and Epstein and Marjor Taylor Green. The

737
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Speaker 2: Republican Party has been the quiet assassin of the rise

738
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Speaker 2: of a nationalist populist movement. Yeah, I mean, imagine you

739
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Speaker 2: go back to twenty twelve and in some strange universe,

740
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Speaker 2: we nominated moderate milk toast Mitt Romney to run against

741
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Speaker 2: the most progressive presidential candidate in the history of our nation,

742
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Speaker 2: instead of libertarian what would have then been called the

743
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Speaker 2: sort of tea party, Donald Trump Ron Paul. That might

744
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Speaker 2: be the greatest dark mark on the history of the

745
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Speaker 2: twenty first century Republican Party is that we nominated Mitt

746
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Speaker 2: Romney instead of Ron Paul. And I say that in

747
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Speaker 2: this situation because even here in Minnesota, the Republican Party,

748
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Speaker 2: the apparatus, I call them the apparat checks, because I

749
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Speaker 2: do think that the Republican side of the establishment is

750
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Speaker 2: just as proto communist or socialists as the their democratic counterparts.

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Speaker 2: We could talk about that as a matter, We should

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Speaker 2: talk about that. But I do think that the Republican Party,

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Speaker 2: even here in Minnesota, the establishment, the party apparatus, is

754
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Speaker 2: in firm opposition of the MAGA movement, the rise of populism,

755
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Speaker 2: and the overall prosperity and well being and even freedom

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Speaker 2: of the American people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if I were to recall the discussion through the

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Speaker 3: Republican form is despite you getting the nomination, you didn't

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Speaker 3: have the support of would you describe established from the

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Speaker 3: Republicans right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, which makes it even more significant that I won. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the fact that I was able to win a statewide

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Speaker 2: primary on an extremist MAGA platform, with all of the

764
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Speaker 2: local mainstream media lined up against me, and our four

765
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Speaker 2: sitting Republican congress members who refuse to endorse me even

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Speaker 2: after I had won the Republican nomination. Why is that,

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Speaker 2: you think, because they're in on it, in on what

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Speaker 2: they're in on the scale.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess have you talked to them about not like.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to talk to him. I know who

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Speaker 2: they are. They I know who they are, and they

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Speaker 2: know who I am. I know who Tom Emmer is.

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Speaker 2: I know where you got to start. I know who

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Speaker 2: Vin Weber is, Council Foreign Relations, born of trustees, Vin Weber,

775
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Speaker 2: who gave Tom E. Maris's start. I know who these

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Speaker 2: people are. I know what their what their play is,

777
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 2: I know what their agenda is. I know what their

778
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: political worldview is. I know how they'll play like they

779
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 2: believe in one thing for their own political expediency, when

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Speaker 2: really they don't. They'll tell a both faced lie, They'll

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Speaker 2: lie right in your face about what they believe about

782
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Speaker 2: their platform. About what they'll do if they're elected again.

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Speaker 2: And even more so, I know their spirit said Carl

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Speaker 2: June used to say. You know, he said, you can

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Speaker 2: look at the results and infer the motive. And I'm

786
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Speaker 2: not a huge fan of Carl June because I think

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Speaker 2: he was, shall I say, an atheist, but there are

788
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Speaker 2: some profound insights from the psychological uh, you know, juggernauts,

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Speaker 2: even if they lack faith and a higher power, you

790
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Speaker 2: can in a lot of a lot of times look

791
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Speaker 2: at the results of a thing and in for the motive,

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Speaker 2: and well, look at where this country has gone over

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Speaker 2: the last thirty years. The Conservatives that had the House

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Speaker 2: in the Congress just as many times as the as

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Speaker 2: the Liberals, as the Democrats. The Republicans have held the

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Speaker 2: House in the Senate over the last thirty years just

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Speaker 2: as many times as the Democrats. Yeah, not by accident,

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Speaker 2: not by accident. And my point about Emmer and the

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Speaker 2: other four congress members is what does it say to

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Speaker 2: the rest of the Republican caucus that a young somewhat

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Speaker 2: a political me me that a young somewhat a political

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Speaker 2: Republican candidate with all the momentum in Minnesota comes from

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Speaker 2: the Inner Cities. Is the first black person to be

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Speaker 2: nominated by either major party to run for US Senate,

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Speaker 2: first black person to be endorsed, and up against one

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Speaker 2: of the most radical Democrats in the entire country, Amy Klobashar,

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Speaker 2: most radical and well funded Democrats in the entire country.

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Speaker 2: In our four sitting Republican Congress members wouldn't endorse me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is that almost like a silent endorsement of her.

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Speaker 3: It does show division, as we discussed, that's.

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Speaker 2: Right, they're willing to and this is this is true

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Speaker 2: of the Republican establishment in general. And this is this

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Speaker 2: is exemplified by Mitt Romney. Back to my example, Mitt

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Speaker 2: Romney throwing in with the communists in this nation's darkest hour.

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Speaker 2: Remember I said that there's a great dark mark on

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Speaker 2: our history. It was a dark mark before he threw

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Speaker 2: in with Kamala Harris. The fact that we put Mitt

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Speaker 2: Romney up over Ron Paul was a dark mark on

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party well before he threw in with Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: The fact that he made threw in with Kamala Harrison

821
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Speaker 2: this nation's darkest hour just solidified it as the dark

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Speaker 2: mark on the Republican Party's history. And it's not by

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Speaker 2: accident that a moderate, sort of milk toast guy who

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Speaker 2: has a great smile and a nice strong name with

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Speaker 2: a lot of prestige and elite, great head of hair.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm going bald already because the truth stresses

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Speaker 2: me out. You're pretty good man, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: But it's not by accident that Amit Romney threw in

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Speaker 2: with Kamala Harrison the communists. And that's exactly what the

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Speaker 2: Republican establishment has been and will continue to try and

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Speaker 2: be through the twenty twenty six midterms and even into

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty until we crushed them the same way we

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Speaker 2: have to crush our enemies.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up. The midterms so because

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Speaker 3: of these divisions.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to Israel.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about the midterms though, because you're running

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Speaker 3: for US sentence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Israel is going to be a big issue in

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Speaker 2: the midterms. It's a big issue now.

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Speaker 3: But based on these divisions, many of which you've highlighted,

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Speaker 3: how do you think the midterms are going to go?

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Speaker 3: Because you have Margine Taylor Green leaving them, leaving her post. Yep,

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Speaker 3: you have, so she says, it looks pretty clear. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'll see, Okay, okay, fair, fine, we'll see. I don't

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Speaker 3: know yet, but clearly those.

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Speaker 2: Are our intentions. Stated inten is to leave. If I

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Speaker 2: had to say in it, if I had a chance

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Speaker 2: to talk to her, maybe I will she would make

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Speaker 2: a different choice.

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Speaker 3: And then come back to the Trump fold.

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Speaker 2: I won't say what folds she has to come back to,

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Speaker 2: because no American politician has to be in anybody's fold.

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Speaker 2: I support President Trump one hundred percent, and I continue

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Speaker 2: to pray that he finds the righteous discernment to lead

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Speaker 2: this nation in the best direction. And I think he's

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Speaker 2: done a great job opposed to many of the other

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Speaker 2: presidents in recent memory. But I'm not in agreement with

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Speaker 2: everything he's done, and we can talk about that at

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Speaker 2: great length if you want. And I don't think that

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Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green needs to be in agreement with everything

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Speaker 2: that President Trump has done, either, But I do think

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Speaker 2: that her her voice in the Congress is important, and

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Speaker 2: I don't agree with everything she's saying either, but she

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Speaker 2: does seem to have a little bit more testicular fortitude

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Speaker 2: than some of her colleague.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, that's a that's a that's a powerful way of

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Speaker 3: describing describing.

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Speaker 2: That.

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Speaker 3: Being said, though these divisions have an impact on the

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Speaker 3: election itself, how are Republicans going to do in the

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Speaker 3: midterms given these different.

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about the projections of the midterms

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Speaker 2: until we talk about election integrity, until the elections are secure.

875
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't want to fabricate the

876
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: you know the I don't even want to lend any

877
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: credence to the outcomes or the results, because it's it's

878
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: it it, you know it.

879
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: How about how about this?

880
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: It pretends that it's all that, that it's off fair

881
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: and equal, or that it's a square game, and it's not.

882
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 3: How about this?

883
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: The voter roles in Minnesota are the Minnesota Secretary of

884
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: State wouldn't even give the voter rolls to the Department

885
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 2: of Justice. What do you heighten?

886
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: Nevertheless, you are still trying to get votes, to my

887
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 3: correct No, you're not trying to get votes.

888
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: Oh I'm glad we're talking about this. This is important.

889
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 3: Then why are you running?

890
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: Because the United States Senate is supposed to be the

891
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: most deliberative body in the world, and the people who

892
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: represent us in the United States Senate Senate. Harken back

893
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: all the way to the earliest constructions of our government

894
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: in Westphalian nationhood or nation state culture right there in

895
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: the Roman Republic, even back to the days of the

896
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: Greek city states. But the Roman Republic is where we

897
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: mostly get our formation of government in the Senate right

898
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: like the Roman Senate.

899
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 3: But why.

900
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: The reason why it's important is because any place where

901
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: we abnegate our responsibility and duty to stand up and

902
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: speak the truth as a let's say, candidate for one

903
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 2: of these offices, we can no longer condemn the American

904
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 2: people for choosing the government that they get and deserving

905
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 2: the government they get. If a candidate doesn't step up

906
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: and say, like President Trump, for example, if President Trump

907
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: didn't step up in the twilight of his life and say, hey,

908
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: I could be doing anything else, but there's something that

909
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: needs to be said, and I'm going to say it,

910
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 2: and I'm going to give the American people that choice,

911
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: that option. It's hard. It's hard for any one of

912
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: us who has any aspirations to lead or help lead

913
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: this country in a positive direction to hold the American

914
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: people's feet to the fire. Because we didn't step up

915
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 2: to give them the option. And I would say that

916
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: for any American citizens sitting at home who thinks that

917
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 2: they have a good perspective on politics, or they think

918
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: that they have a good mind sharp for politics or policy,

919
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: step up and run. Step up and running your local municipality.

920
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: Step up and run for school board, mayor congressional office,

921
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: a state office, a state senate, state house, US Senate,

922
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 2: run for president if you think that you can offer something.

923
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: But if you sit home and you're not willing to

924
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: put your hat, your name in the hat, then you

925
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 2: can't say, oh, well, the American people made the wrong choice,

926
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: Well why didn't you run? See it's easy to criticize

927
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 2: every other can, but the question is why why didn't

928
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: you step up? If you think you know better. So

929
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: that's my that's my goal, and that's my mission is

930
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to step up and run. I'm going to

931
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: run until I until I die, because it's it's it

932
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: would be dishonest if I didn't give the American people

933
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: this message and this option when they go to cast

934
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 2: their ballot.

935
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 3: Interesting, So the I guess I'm I have a slower mind,

936
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 3: a smoother brain. Here there is a concern for voter

937
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: election integrity. Yes, but also you are running to make

938
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: a statement every politician is always Maybe I need to

939
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 3: just come back to the beginning. Why did you decide

940
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: to run twenty twenty four and why did you decide.

941
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: To rerun because American politics.

942
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 3: Sorry, the.

943
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: Reason why I chose to run in twenty twenty four

944
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: and then now going to run again in twenty twenty

945
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: six is American politics is captured by special interests and

946
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 2: lobby money. It's it's captured by uh, the status quo

947
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: of corruption. That's why I reason it's the it's the

948
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 2: only reason.

949
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: Wait, I don't understand, Like, are you running to shine

950
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 3: a light on it or I'm confused about that.

951
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: No, I'm running to represent the truth. So you're representatives.

952
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: Wait a second, you're you're representatives your political candidate. If

953
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: your political candidate's only goal is to win their election,

954
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: they've already failed you. Your political candidates, from the time

955
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: that they declare to run for an office should be

956
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: to inform. I think that's clear that you're running to

957
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: be to inform the American people of the highest formation

958
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 2: of truth about the politics of the time.

959
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 4: But not just informed though like obviously say you get

960
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 4: the political every political camp education just in form.

961
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 3: You have votes, you have votes in the Senate, you

962
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: have votes in Congress to make change and write bill.

963
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 2: Well, before you're ever elected, every political camp first of all.

964
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 3: Like there's more responsibilities in just informed.

965
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, oh no, no, wait a second, it's sequential.

966
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: It's sequential. Every American political candidate, before they ever get

967
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: elected office, runs a political campaign that should be educational

968
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 2: for their constituents. And if you're in a national wide

969
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: race the entire country. Yeah, but they're not. Though you

970
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: could say, you don't disagree, but how many political campaigns

971
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 2: have you really learned something from? You? Sorry, how many

972
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: political campaigns have you actually learned something from? I mean,

973
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 2: I feel like I think they're all just a bunch

974
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 2: of cookie cutter bullshit meant to pander to the constituency

975
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 2: they plan to extract votes from. I don't even talk

976
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: about issues in terms of, you know, what, what sample

977
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: size or or what focused group thinks these issues are

978
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: more or more electable than others. I think that entire

979
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: thing is a part of the theater. That's what's happened

980
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: to this country. They're going to control focused group, a

981
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: set of questions and what's most important to Minnesotans. I

982
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck you. If you're an American citizen

983
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 2: and you've been conditioned to want to hear what you

984
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: want to hear versus what you need to hear, you

985
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: have failed this country as a citizen. It's not the

986
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: politician who can't construct a bullshit, you know, a bullshit

987
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: pitch to satisfy your need for you know, a political propaganda.

988
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 2: If you would much rather hear what you want to

989
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: hear versus what you need to hear, you have failed

990
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: as a citizen. And if the collective of citizens are

991
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: conditioned to that standard, that expectation of political candidates, then

992
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: that's why the country is the way it is. And

993
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: we don't need to talk about Israel. As a citizen,

994
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: you don't demand the highest standard of of of of

995
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: ethics and morals and honesty from your own candidates.

996
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 3: Look, at the end of the day, as a citizen,

997
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: I put a voter. That's what I can do.

998
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: That's how simple they wanted to see.

999
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: But I can't put a voter. That's that's where my

1000
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: power can play.

1001
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: And I want to should and you should Okay, The

1002
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: question is what is the standard you demand from your politicians?

1003
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: Everybody gets to cast a vote, that's your god given,

1004
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: inalienable right. The question is what framework or standard do

1005
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: you hold your political candidates too? What what even informational

1006
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: background or framework are you working from as a citizen.

1007
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: I have a different, a little more emotional question here.

1008
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

1009
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: This year has been tough when it comes to political violence.

1010
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it's been an issue.

1011
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 3: How have the events of like the Minnesota state reps

1012
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 3: UH and Charlie Kirk? How have these events affected your

1013
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: thinking and the lead up to your campaign?

1014
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean people who make freedom of speech, you know, illegal,

1015
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: People who thought a genuine and authentic political process are

1016
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: the true insiders of what we would call political violence.

1017
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: In my opinion, and the volatility of the political culture

1018
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: in this country is not by accident. It's not a coincidence.

1019
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: It's intentional. The bastardization, the decadence of our intellectual currency,

1020
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 2: our philosophical currency, are our civic duty in this country

1021
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: is not by accident. It's intentional. The fact that your

1022
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: average American citizen, fifty percent of American citizens read at

1023
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: an eighth and seventh grade level. Another fifty perc read

1024
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: below a seventh grade level is not by accident. That's

1025
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: called government policy. And and so my, my, my thought

1026
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: about the political violence is that it is a manifestation

1027
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: of the decay of our culture. And it's tragic, it's terrible.

1028
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's assassination was I mean, how to even describe it.

1029
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: It will uh, you know, it will free some people

1030
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: in fear and in time for a generation or so,

1031
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: same way John Kennedy's froze the Boomer generation, Boomer generation

1032
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,959
Speaker 2: in time and fear for for for a long long time.

1033
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 3: What was especially in this state, What was it like

1034
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 3: when John Hoffin and Less Harman were attacked? How did

1035
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 3: how did how did that go for you?

1036
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: As as the one is running, I completely uh disavow

1037
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: political violence and that type of cowardice in any form

1038
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: of fashion. I think it's a projection of people's own

1039
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 2: insanity and their own unwillingness to manifest the type of

1040
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: civic engagement in political activism that they could if they

1041
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: had some sacred honor and faith. Uh So, you know,

1042
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: nobody's going to be able to tell me that shooting

1043
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: a United Healthcare CEO in Midtown Manhattan is how you

1044
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: get things done in this country. Just you just can't.

1045
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: You could. You could make the argument if we even

1046
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: started from the baseline that we demand our elections be secure.

1047
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: If you can't, if you won't demand that your elections

1048
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: are secure and follow through with the political activism that

1049
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: that you know stands on, that you don't have a

1050
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: right to pick up a gun and go shoot an

1051
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: oligarch because they're corrupt.

1052
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: I had heard a rumor that you'd known, actually Charlie Kirk.

1053
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Charlie. I know Charlie.

1054
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 3: I imagine that we were called is there a way

1055
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 3: to tape that down?

1056
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: I knew Charlie Kirk, well, not great. We weren't great

1057
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 2: friends by any means. I certainly didn't know him as

1058
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: much as a Canvas Owns or Jack Pasovic or some

1059
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: of those people. But I was on Charlie's show a

1060
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 2: number of times. I was introduced to Charlie in a

1061
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: group chat about the election, and I had a number

1062
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 2: of conversations with Charlie about American politics. And obviously I

1063
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 2: watched Charlie because he and I both have a show

1064
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: on Real America's Voice and Charlie was, you know, was

1065
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: an incredible young man. He very sharp, very articulate, very

1066
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: process oriented, very hard working, real political activists, you know

1067
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: what I mean, like sort of in the streets as

1068
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 2: much as in the streets activists as you'll find in

1069
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: the Republican Party on the conservative side. So I had

1070
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: a lot of respect for him. Didn't agree with them

1071
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: on everything. I thought he found a real set of

1072
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: balls towards the end of his life and start talking

1073
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: about some issues people didn't want him to talk about

1074
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: the way he did. And I don't know if that

1075
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: caused him some problems. You know, obviously it caused them

1076
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: some problems financially, that's now come to light. But I

1077
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: don't know if those problems had to do with this

1078
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 2: assassination or not. But a sad and tragic day for

1079
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: this country to see a young man with that bright

1080
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: of a future killed in that horrific way.

1081
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 3: Have you reached out to the good family.

1082
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gave my condolences. You know, it's I mean

1083
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: the whole world. You know, there's an entire world of

1084
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: people who were fans of Charlie Kirk that felt more

1085
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: or less the same way. Is this is horrific.

1086
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 3: Did you reach out to the corporate and offense families.

1087
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: I gave my condolences to them too publicly. I made

1088
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: a public statement reaching out to their families. I wouldn't

1089
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Speaker 2: even know where to begin to get a hold of

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Speaker 2: somebody's family. I don't even know if that would be appropriate,

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Speaker 2: you know, to me anyway. I mean, I just I

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01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: don't consider myself that important of a person to where,

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Speaker 2: you know, like if I was the President of the

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01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: United States, I might have done something like that, you know,

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01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: or if I was a US senator from Minnesota, might

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Speaker 2: have done something like that as a gesture. But you know,

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Speaker 2: people lost their loved ones. They lost their mother or

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Speaker 2: their wife, or their you know, in Charlie's case, a

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Speaker 2: husband or a father. You know, there's there's really nothing

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Speaker 2: superficial you could say that changes that. You know, death

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01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 2: is unnatural in that way, especially when people are murdered

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Speaker 2: or assassinated. So I don't really do with the you know,

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01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 2: with the superficial when it comes to death and murder

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota has recently been the headlines due to Trump's remarks

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01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 3: about the smaller population. What did you think of those

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Speaker 3: remarks when they were made about the small community, and.

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Speaker 2: In Twin says, I think the answer to Somalia is

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01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: in Somalia's not in Minneapolis. I think the answer to

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01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: Somalia is in Somalia. It's not in Minneapolis, Okay, But

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01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: but there's a pretty large percentage of small a yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: The question is why?

1113
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: How I guess what did you think of Trump's marks?

1114
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 2: As those are my thoughts about his remarks.

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01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 3: I don't understand.

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01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm runner for United States Senate. I don't. I don't

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01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 2: hear Trump's remarks and then form some type of, you know,

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01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: knee jerk opinion about him, like, well, I think Trump's

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01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: remarks are right or wrong or whatever else. I think

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Speaker 2: about the implications of the thing that he's talking about.

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Speaker 2: So when I think about the Somalian community, of the

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01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: Somali community in Minneapolis or in the United States, I

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01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 2: think back to black Hawk Down and the war that

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Speaker 2: we waged in Somalia, and whether or not we should

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Speaker 2: have been there in the first place, and what good

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Speaker 2: did it do for Somalia, What good did it do

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01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: for the region, What good did it do for the

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Speaker 2: America people, What good did it do for the contentious

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: nature of the topic today, I guess the answer to

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Speaker 2: Somalia is not in Minneapolis. It's in Somalia.

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01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 3: I guess. Let me be a little more focused on

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Speaker 3: Did you agree with Trump's remarks about the small people?

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01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 2: Well, I think trump. I think President Trump made a

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01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 2: lot of remarks, uh, and has made a lot of

1135
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: remarks about Somalia. I think some of them were taken

1136
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: out of context, as they so often are. Yeah, explain, well,

1137
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 2: I don't think that President Trump was saying that all

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01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: Somalians are garbage. I know a lot of people try

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01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: to fence it that way. I certainly listened to the comments,

1140
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: and I didn't take that from what he said. What

1141
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: I took from what he said was that Ilhan Omar

1142
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 2: is garbage, and she is, and that the other Somalian

1143
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 2: immigrants who were involved in one of the largest scale

1144
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 2: frauds in Minnesota history were garbage and they are so.

1145
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: But anybody who would say that all Somali's are garbage,

1146
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: they must they must have misspoke, or they're not speaking

1147
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: from a place of humanity or or Christianity. But I

1148
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 2: didn't think that he said that, actually. But but there

1149
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: are some people who do say something like that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, many smaller people do read

1151
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 3: him saying, I mean it's not different.

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01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: They don't.

1153
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 3: Well, the quote itself is the smaller community in is

1154
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 3: in his garbage.

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01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 2: Well, so well, here I'll say, well, but how deep

1156
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: do you want to go in?

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01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about that. I'm simply saying that, like, well,

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01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,439
Speaker 3: there's a lot of there's a lot of smaller people

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01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: who are quite offended by those remarkless.

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Speaker 2: But listen, here's what I'll say. There's no easy way

1161
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: to clean up a big mess. Okay, And our foreign

1162
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: back to our foreign policy, because I'm running for United

1163
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: States Senate. Back to our foreign policy. Our foreign policy

1164
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: has created a huge mess all around the world, some

1165
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 2: in other places, some for us right here in America,

1166
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: some for us right here in Minnesota. The Somali immigration

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01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 2: to this state, to our city, and the way that

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01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 2: immigration has been carried out by government policy, specific as

1169
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: it pertains to fraud that has now been uncovered, is

1170
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: a huge mess. And there's no easy way to discuss it,

1171
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: and there's no easy way to clean it up. And

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01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 2: what I think people need to admit is the people

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01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 2: who you the people who you choose to represent you

1174
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: do represent you as a whole in some sense. The

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01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:37,520
Speaker 2: same way, when President Trump says something embarrassing by mainstream

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01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 2: media standards, what did they say? They said, this is

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01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: embarrassing for the for America. Right, do you agree when

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01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 2: President Trump says something that? Okay? When President Trump says

1179
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: something that the mainstream media regard as disgusting, repugnant, unpresidential,

1180
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be, they make the claim

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01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 2: that it's embarrassing for America to the rest of the world.

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01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 3: Right which which outlets?

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01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: All of them? Most of them?

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01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 3: Okay?

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01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: All right, there are a ton of There are a

1186
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: ton of mainstream media outlets that have made the claim

1187
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 2: some of President Trump's actions and comments are embarrassing for

1188
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 2: US as a nation, meaning that uh an elected official

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01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 2: who is elected to represent a certain people, a population

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01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 2: of people, a demographic people, can represent the entire group

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01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 2: with his actions and his words, and people can form

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 2: opinions based on what somebody who represents you says. So

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Speaker 2: my point is that it doesn't just stop with the

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01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 2: President of the United States or how he can represent

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01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: this country. It also is how Anilhannomar represents the Somali community,

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01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 2: or how a Barack Obama or more accurately, a Jasmine

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01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 2: Crockett represents the black community. I guess you represent that

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01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: when you're when you're elected to represent people, you represent

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Speaker 2: them in the Somali community. And I told this to

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Speaker 2: a Somali, a Somali gentleman at a town hall recently.

1201
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: I said, we all have to take responsibility for the

1202
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: people who we choose to represent us, and some in

1203
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: some in some respects. And so when when a Barack

1204
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: Obama stands up in lies before the nation as a

1205
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: black man, he's representing me, lying by what right, Well,

1206
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: we'll get to that. But when that happens, he's representing me.

1207
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 2: When an Iohanomar stands up before the American people or

1208
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 2: the world and tells lies or or or pushes a

1209
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 2: policy or a political platform that's not honest, she's representing

1210
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 2: her Somalian community the same way she says she's representing

1211
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 2: them in her success. If you represent a group of

1212
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 2: people in your success, you also represent them in your failures.

1213
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 2: Speaking which so to my point about his comments, if

1214
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 2: you take the net, if you take the aggregate of

1215
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 2: the Somalian community at current the most the most uh,

1216
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 2: the most public thing that we see is one of

1217
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 2: the biggest frauds, one of the biggest fraud uh. You know,

1218
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 2: one of the biggest scams in the history of our

1219
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 2: state of Minnesota. And it was predominantly perpetuated by Somalian immigrants.

1220
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 2: So for President Trump to say the Somalian community in

1221
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 2: Minnesota is trash, you are a net result of of

1222
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: the way that you're represented, in the way that the

1223
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: people in your community represents you. It's the same thing

1224
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: I think about the Black community, honestly, and it's the

1225
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 2: same thing I think about white Western society. So is

1226
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 2: that white Western society has been is a bunch of

1227
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 2: neo conservative, neoliberal globalist cooks. And I can say that

1228
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 2: about white society with complete confidence. I can say that

1229
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: the Black community in America is a result of a

1230
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 2: decadent culture, an intentional in culture. And I can say

1231
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: that the Somali community right now is a representation of

1232
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: one of the greatest fraudulent scams in the history of

1233
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 2: our state.

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Speaker 3: Now.

1235
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how President Trump would explain it in

1236
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: nuance or detail. I can't speak for him, but that's

1237
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: what I would say.

1238
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 3: I think he was very clear about how he thought

1239
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 3: about the Smali community.

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01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: Well, I think his entire day and the things that

1241
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: he says to the media and the the you know,

1242
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 2: the the sound bites and quotes that come out of

1243
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 2: his you know, come out of his meticulously scheduled uh

1244
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 2: you know, life are you know, I mean, they have

1245
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: to be taken with a grain of salt. Anyway, when

1246
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm president, it won't be like that when I'm president.

1247
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 2: When I'm president, it won't be like that.

1248
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 3: You're running for president.

1249
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: Now, what I'm saying is, when I'm president, it won't

1250
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: be like that. When I'm president, I'll sit on the

1251
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: South lawn. Well may we won't do the South long

1252
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: because it probably be too clear of a shot for

1253
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 2: would be assassin. But we'll be right there in the press.

1254
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: There'll be entire days where I sit in the press

1255
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 2: room at the White House and explain in full detail

1256
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: and nuanced the reason why I say the things I say,

1257
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: the historical references or context for what I'm saying, and

1258
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: the choices that we're making in policy. Right now, President

1259
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: Trump is in a position we're saving this country from

1260
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 2: the damage that has been done. Doesn't allow him to

1261
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 2: do that, and if he can succeed in his agenda

1262
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: and bring this country back to a more reasonable place,

1263
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 2: hopefully a future presidential candidate will have more leeway with

1264
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 2: explaining things to the American people in greater detail.

1265
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Speaker 3: I have so many questions about the president park that's it. Well,

1266
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 3: it's also that I am. I will not be I

1267
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 3: will be shocked, but not surprised if if we get there,

1268
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 3: and I hope you'll grant me an interview if there happens,

1269
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 3: as of course. Okay, So, but coming back to the

1270
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 3: nuance of the smaller community, as you noted on the

1271
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Speaker 3: War Room, we see Bannon with regard to the question

1272
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 3: that's Bannon put to you, the response was a thousand

1273
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 3: percent no equivocations.

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01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 2: Thousand percent equivocations.

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01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 3: Correct. So the town hall that you had mentioned with

1276
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 3: regard to the smaller community, then, yeah, seemed like took

1277
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 3: a shit with that comment.

1278
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 2: They thought they did until we talked about it.

1279
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 3: Well, let's let's talk about it. So there's a lot

1280
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,520
Speaker 3: of passionate conversation.

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01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: That was great. That was a great town hall. Explain

1282
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: tell me more. I saw a little bit about we

1283
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 2: got to the bottom of some ship there. What we

1284
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: got to the bottom of is as a black man

1285
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: and as as Somolian immigrants, we share a cultural narrative

1286
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 2: in some respects is that we our identity is used

1287
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 2: in this tug of war of race and identity in

1288
01:14:52,560 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 2: American political culture, in the American political dialogue. And the

1289
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: olive branch that I extended to the gentleman who I've like,

1290
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: he said, I know, I've met before taking pictures with

1291
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 2: He supported me, he supported President Trump. The olive branch

1292
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: that I extended is to tell him, as a black

1293
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: man whose people have been in this country far longer

1294
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: than the Somalis, the Somalis, I can say with a

1295
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: lot of confidence that I have been misrepresented and that

1296
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 2: I have to accept responsibility for people who represent me

1297
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: and misrepresent me. And that is probably best seen in

1298
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: the Black community of any other group in this country,

1299
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 2: because the Black community has been misrepresented politically, culturally, spiritually,

1300
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: the Black community has been misrepresented, misled, manipulated, exploited, misrep

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Speaker 2: is in it. But just because that's true doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: that I don't have to take accountability for it as

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Speaker 2: a black man. And so what I was telling him is,

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Speaker 2: you know, the answer to Somalia is in Somalia. It's not.

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Speaker 2: It's not in America, it's not in Minneapolis. The problem

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Speaker 2: with Somalia, and the problem with the conversation, even for Republicans,

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Speaker 2: is that it doesn't acknowledge the fundamental facts, the truth

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Speaker 2: about how Somalians got here in the first place, how

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Speaker 2: the Somalis ended up here in the first place. And

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Speaker 2: this is the whole deal. This isn't a this isn't

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Speaker 2: a small piece of the story. This is the whole story.

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Speaker 2: This is what you call the meat and potatoes of

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Speaker 2: the story. Our military industrial complex had no business in

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Speaker 2: Somalia in the first place. We were there under false pretenses.

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Speaker 2: We were there in the false auspices for a false

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Speaker 2: mission that we didn't achieve, because Somalia is not a

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Speaker 2: bastion of freedom and democracy. They are not self determined

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Speaker 2: as the Democrat liberal order professes to do all around

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Speaker 2: the world. Right, that was the That was the Moniker

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Speaker 2: or you know, the professed mission of the post World

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01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 2: War two democrat liberal order. After World War Two. That

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01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 2: was the mission of the post World War two democrat

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Speaker 2: liberal order. We're going to take freedom and democracy around

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Speaker 2: the world by peace through strength and make every nation

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Speaker 2: self determining it didn't work. It didn't work in Somalia.

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Speaker 2: Somalia is a failed state. Somalia is a failed state

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Speaker 2: sitting on about five trillion dollars of oil reserves, just

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Speaker 2: the oil, not to mention the gold and the other

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Speaker 2: rare earth minerals and the great fishing oceans that they

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Speaker 2: have off of the beautiful coastline there in Somalia. Somalia

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01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 2: is a resource rich nation. But Americans, a Western and

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01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 2: American police coelites, made a fortune off of exploiting nations

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Speaker 2: all around the world under the auspices of American freedom,

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Speaker 2: and that has intentionally kept Somalia poor and has intentionally

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01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: kept Somalia corrupt. But the Somali people have to take

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Speaker 2: some responsibility too, because the Somalians had the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: tell the Westerners know and they couldn't do it. They

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Speaker 2: took the money, They took the money, or they took

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Speaker 2: the fear, whether it's a warlord or despot or tyrant

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Speaker 2: or religious leader or whoever it was that rose to

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Speaker 2: power in Somalia and did the deals with Western society

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Speaker 2: to keep the nation poor instead of rich and self

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Speaker 2: determining that falls on the Somali people the same way

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01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 2: it falls on the American people when we let our

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Speaker 2: political elites do it to us here and there's a

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Speaker 2: corollary there, and there's a corollary for the Black community.

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01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 2: The reason why the black community has more millionaires, more

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Speaker 2: Black millionaires than anywhere else in the world or any

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01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 2: other time in American history. But yet still we put

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01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 2: up icons like NBA Young Boy who promote shooting each

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01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 2: other senselessly in the street over trivial things. Is something

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01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 2: we have to own, and our lack of progression as

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01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:28,799
Speaker 2: a community is just as much on us as anybody

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01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 2: else we could blame, not to say, there's not blame

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01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 2: to go around, and we should talk about who is

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01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: rightfully responsible, but we can't pass the buck on our

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01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: own accountability in that. So to my point about the

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Speaker 2: Somalians about Somalia, the answer to Somalia is not in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: It's in Somalia. Somalia could be a thriving nation if

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Speaker 2: they did what Burkina Fosso has done.

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Speaker 3: Let me focus a little bit on the Somali population here,

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Speaker 3: just for a minute, to the extent that what do

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Speaker 3: you say to the Somali Americans who are citizens who

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01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,839
Speaker 3: not only took the issue with Trump's marks, but are concerned,

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01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 3: and they should be felt offended by They should be

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Speaker 3: the growing issue around.

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Speaker 2: Should be concerned. We all should be concerned. There's no

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Speaker 2: easy way to clean up a huge mess, and an

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01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: administration or a government like the Biden administration, let's end

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01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 2: fifteen million illegal immigrants in four years, There's no easy

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Speaker 2: way to deal with that. There's no way to go

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Speaker 2: about cleaning that up that doesn't run the risk of

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01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: getting it wrong. Sometimes mistaken identity, misidentifying somebody as being

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01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 2: illegal when really they're legal. That's a difficult thing to do,

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01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying it makes it any less wrong.

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01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 2: And if we do get it wrong, if Ice gets

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01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: it wrong and they grab somebody who who is here legally,

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01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: then they should apologize and there should be restitution.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember me just going back to the town

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Speaker 3: hall for a second.

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Speaker 2: That is which is why we can't spend another five

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01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: billion dollars in Ukraine, because we're gonna need every dollar

1383
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 2: we can to get illegal immigrants that came here under

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01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: the Bide administration out. And when we make mistakes we're

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01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: gonna have to pay in full restitution to people who

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Speaker 2: are citizens, and if we don't, then we've undermined citizenship

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Speaker 2: itself and the value of citizenship.

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Speaker 3: Why were people upset at the town hall?

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Speaker 2: Because people are passionate and emotional and they react without

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Speaker 2: without thinking, And that's the way American political culture has

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01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 2: conditioned people to be. On purpose. Yeah, political political culture

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01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 2: and conversation is intended to be hot, contentious, but never

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01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 2: really gets to the root of things.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying that the mall Americans are they're being

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Speaker 3: upset is unfounded or confused.

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Speaker 2: In large part, Yeah, for sure, which which is what

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Speaker 2: we came to at the end. If you if you

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Speaker 2: go back and you look at the footage at the

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Speaker 2: end of that town hall, and and he was there

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01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 2: where the Somali gentlemen that were there, shaking my hand

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01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: and hugging me. In fact, I was going to go

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01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 2: to dinner with two of them afterward, right, So they

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01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 2: were after I explained it, they agreed because they know.

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01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 2: But that's what real political leadership should be. Now, should

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01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 2: I have to go back and explain the comment or

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01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 2: add nuance of detail for the President of the United

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01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 2: States well, sure, because I'm running for you as Senate

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01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 2: here in Minnesota and these are my constituents and the

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Speaker 2: Somali community is a huge part of this of this state.

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01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: But I was able to do it. That won't make

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01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: the headlines, though, you think Start the Start Tribune will

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01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: report that after a hot and contentious conversation about the

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01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 2: comments on Somalia, that I was able to come to

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01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 2: an understanding and some common ground with the Somali gentleman

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Speaker 2: in the in the audience. No, it won't. It won't

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01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 2: make the heavy I know. But it's the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 2: It's the same thing. Whether it's New York Times, Star Tribune,

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01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: Associated Press, PBS, it's all the same.

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01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 3: But also, I mean a contracts.

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01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 2: I'm a free agent, right But I'm just saying, even

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01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 2: if you went back to PBS right now and you said, hey,

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01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 2: there's this incredible story brewing in Minnesota where President Trump

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01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: made these crazy comments about the Somali community there and

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01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 2: some protesters who are Somali Republicans showed up to confront

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01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 2: Royce at his town hall and by the end of it,

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01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: they're shaking hands and hugging. Maybe this guy, Royce White

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01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: has some real insightful ideas about politics that aren't getting

1429
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 2: the credit they deserve. Maybe he's actually saying something that

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01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 2: has the ability to transcend the polarization of American political culture.

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01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 2: But you know, you try that and you tell me

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01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 2: how it goes. I'm sure the brass at PBS would

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01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: want the young thirty five year old conspiracy theorists in

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01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 2: Minnesota to be painted in that light.

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01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 3: Do you feel like by the end of the town

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01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 3: hall you think you can convince more small Americans to

1437
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,480
Speaker 3: both for you?

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01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 2: You get the government you deserve, and by god, we

1439
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 2: all will. I don't know what I can convince people of.

1440
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 2: I can tell them the truth, and people have to

1441
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 2: make their choice and live with their decision. That's my

1442
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 2: honest that's my honest approach to politics in general. I'm

1443
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 2: not here to tell people what they want to hear.

1444
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 2: I'm here to tell them what they need to hear,

1445
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 2: and they get to make the choice. People can choose

1446
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 2: to live in the truth or they can choose to

1447
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 2: live in and you know, in a lie and their

1448
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: consequences that come with both. Sometimes there's good that comes

1449
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: with living in a lie. Speaking of leadership and just

1450
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: coming back to the point you made.

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01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 3: I mean, do you find that you're the appropriate represation

1452
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 3: for the black community, then.

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01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 2: Oh, for sure, House, Yeah, I mean I'm tip of

1454
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 2: the spear. I'm as honest as they come in the

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01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 2: black community, no doubt about that. And if there's a

1456
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 2: black bourgeoisse academic lead out there that wants to challenge it,

1457
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 2: please set up the debate any time, any place. Mark

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01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 2: la mount Hill and I talked about Israel. We should

1459
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 2: still talk about Israel because I don't want to get

1460
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 2: away from that. Markla mount Hill and I talked about Israel.

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01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 2: I used to talk with Jason Whitlock all the time,

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01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 2: and you know, I'll talk to anybody in debate anybody,

1463
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 2: because the truth is unscripted.

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01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 3: I'm talking about leadership, though you're leading.

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01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: Much of leadership starts with it starts they starts with

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01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 2: the ideas, starts with the willingness to speak the truth.

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01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 3: Yea. In terms of representation, in terms of you, uh

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01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 3: purporting in this center race to be the representation for

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01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:36,839
Speaker 3: the black community here in Minnesota.

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01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm black. I'm from the Twin Cities through and through.

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Speaker 2: I'm a real son of the Twin Cities in a

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01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 2: way that it's hard to even describe. You know, I

1473
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 2: grew up all across the Twin Cities. Uh really, you know,

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01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 2: I had. I had.

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01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 3: I remember the anecdotes about St. Paul, and I had.

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01:25:55,240 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: Familiar ties all across the Greater Metropolitan Area up actually

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01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 2: in the black communities both North South Minneapolis, Rondo or

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01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,799
Speaker 2: what they call Selby side of Saint Paul, Selby Rondo,

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01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: Frogtown and Saint Paul, and uh, the west side, the

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01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 2: east side. I went to Junior High on the east side.

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01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 2: So you know, I have I have deep, deep roots

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01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 2: here in the Twin Cities, in the black community specifically.

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01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 3: I want to I do want to ask a question. Actually, yeah,

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01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 3: can we talk about you hiring a crew to film

1485
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,799
Speaker 3: this interview? Actually one, why are you filming the interview

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01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 3: for yourself? And yeah, how does that play a role

1487
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Speaker 3: in your campaign?

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01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: But in general, well, I do regard PBS as a

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01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 2: as a media outlet that is important in the future

1490
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: of this nation. They played an important role in the

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01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: history of this nation. I still remember the the great

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01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 2: PBS firing line programming with William Buckley and some of

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Speaker 2: the great interviews he did that were contentious, very high level,

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01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: intellectually and controversial. You know, we we've lost that, and

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01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 2: I think that what firing Line has become, I think

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01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 2: what the National Review has become is a disgrace to

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01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 2: William Buckley's legacy, to be honest, but I do think

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01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 2: that there is a role for the institutions and the

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01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: legacy institutions in the future, and I continue to try

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Speaker 2: as best I can be an advocate and encourage or

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01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 2: help with like in this situation, helped with, you know,

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01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 2: being an honest representation of what this country needs. And

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01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: that's full unscripted interviews from start to finish that are

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01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 2: put out there to the American people. Let the American

1505
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 2: people see who the people are that want to represent them.

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01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 2: I don't know why PBS is uninterested in doing a

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01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 2: real frontline, one on one sit down interview with the

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01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,719
Speaker 2: candidate that the country regards are so controversial. My guess

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01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: is that people would come away from it thinking much

1510
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 2: differently about me than they do already, given the headlines

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01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 2: and yellow journalism, which I'm sure this interview will help with.

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Speaker 2: And that's why we decided to film it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, let me be clear, the reason

1514
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 3: why we're feeling with these because they've been following you

1515
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 3: since twenty twenty, right, you're part of this wider fabric tapestry.

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01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's not a knock on you.

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01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 3: Oh kay.

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01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 2: I was just like, no, no, it's not a knock on

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01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 2: the American Voices program or the project. But it is

1520
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: chopped down in the sound bites and clips that don't really.

1521
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 2: I mean, these issues that we're talking about, they deserve

1522
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 2: the detailing nuance. They need it. It's essential. You know,

1523
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 2: we can paint beautiful tapestries and symbolic sort of artistic

1524
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 2: you know, programs and shows and whatnot and movies and

1525
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 2: whatever else. That's all great, but you know, when our

1526
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 2: founding fathers showed up in Washington, d C. To build

1527
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: this country, they were there for three months straight, just

1528
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 2: iron three months straight, with no break, just ironing out

1529
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 2: the details of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution

1530
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 2: and the Bill of Rights and these things, and people died.

1531
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 2: I mean, there were fistfights and duels and shit went

1532
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 2: down because it's that serious. And so I think part

1533
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 2: of the crisis in American culture is that we have

1534
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,600
Speaker 2: passionate opinions about these things but we don't have the

1535
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 2: rigorous intellectual engagement that we need. And so you know,

1536
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 2: all I can do is provide that. All I can

1537
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 2: do is do my part in that and say, hey,

1538
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: I'll sit down and talk and as much detailed nuances

1539
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 2: as people will listen. But if people only want Instagram

1540
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 2: reels or TikTok reels in fifteen thirty seconds, then you

1541
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 2: get the government you deserve, and by god, we all

1542
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 2: will the TikTok government. TikTok government.

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01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 3: All right, there you go. You filmed the last interview

1544
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 3: you did with our team Israel.

1545
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 2: Hold we gonna get back to Israel.

1546
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 3: Hold on, but I find this actually, elephant in the.

1547
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 2: Room is Israel. The elephant in the country is Israel.

1548
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 3: I think literally, the elephant the room is the cameras

1549
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 3: right here, like the more there's another crew here. Basically,

1550
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 3: the last time you film with us, you actually put

1551
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 3: the interview online. How did that go? Tell me about the.

1552
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 2: Well, that was the response. It was great.

1553
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 3: Tell me about the thought process of putting these interviews

1554
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 3: out because you said, like the unscripted transfer, unpack this

1555
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 3: for me a little bit.

1556
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 2: Well, I put the full interview out and it was great.

1557
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 2: People loved it. People were they loved the conversation. They

1558
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 2: thought that it was it was it was deeper and

1559
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 2: more detailed old then you would normally get from a

1560
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 2: political candidate. Means probably it was more authentic and real,

1561
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 2: more honest than some of the scripted campaigns you see

1562
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 2: in American politics. And there were a few sound bites

1563
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 2: or clips from it. I think one was probably about

1564
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 2: six seven minutes. That must have been I don't know,

1565
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 2: close to a you know, seven hundred and fifty eight

1566
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 2: hundred thousand views on x right there in the heart

1567
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 2: of the campaign season, and you know, people had had

1568
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 2: great feedback about it. So yeah, I thought of that

1569
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:33,719
Speaker 2: that went.

1570
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 3: Well, that's a question, what do you plan to do

1571
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 3: with this footage full?

1572
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 2: Put it out in full? I would hope that PBS

1573
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 2: would be in support of that, and and maybe even

1574
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 2: you know, partner it or put it up on their platform.

1575
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 3: I'll have to ask them about that. Yeah, please, But

1576
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 3: but to be clear, just for my explanation, mean, we

1577
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 3: have been filming with you through this of the American Voice

1578
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 3: of program, So that's part partly the reason why I've

1579
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 3: been I've enjoyed following your journey this time, which I've

1580
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 3: been very grateful for.

1581
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, Mary No. I appreciate you following it. You

1582
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 2: do good work. And the American Voice the series is

1583
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: really cool. It's just that the things I'm talking about

1584
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 2: are you know. I mean, when we talk about Mackinder's

1585
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 2: land theory, you gotta go talk, you gotta go talk

1586
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 2: to your Bill Crystals in order to and it's it

1587
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 2: was funny.

1588
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 3: I'll have I'll have to do my research to my to.

1589
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 2: The apropos to this point. Remember earlier I said that

1590
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 2: the Republican Party is proto communist, has a proto communist

1591
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 2: wing yesday. You know, Bill Crystal's father, William Crystal, was

1592
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 2: a publicly admitted trotsky I. Now Bill Cristal has been

1593
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 2: a very prominent person in the neo conservative movement for

1594
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 2: a long time, and his father was considered one of

1595
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 2: the intellectual thought leaders of the neo conservative movement. But

1596
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 2: he did come from a trotsky academic background, a Trotskyite

1597
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 2: political activism. So it's not by accident that the neo

1598
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:12,640
Speaker 2: conservative movement, when push comes to shove, aligns with the

1599
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 2: neoliberal movement or what we would call the American political establishment.

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01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 2: You know, like Bill Crystal did most recently when he

1601
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 2: doing with Mom Donnie in New York City.

1602
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 3: Can as about like.

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01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 2: He's a communist, is my point. There are a lot

1604
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 2: of There are a lot of secret communists in the

1605
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 2: Republican Party, Trotskyites. So you know the history of Trotskyite Lenin.

1606
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 3: Right, yes, But I don't want to. I don't think

1607
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 3: that when just as a brief I don't feel like

1608
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 3: going there as a brief.

1609
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 2: When when when Lenin, when Lenin, when Lenin gave power

1610
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 2: to stop, when Stalin rose to power, Trotskyite was his

1611
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 2: was his under under guy. You know, he was second

1612
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 2: in command of the communist movement there in Russia. But

1613
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,560
Speaker 2: when Stalin came to power, he turned on trotsky I,

1614
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 2: on trotsky and the Trotskyites moved to Mexico. When the

1615
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 2: Trotzkys moved to Mexico, they ended up very influential or

1616
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 2: involved in the earliest days of the neo conservative faction

1617
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 2: of the Republican Party. So that's how the global becomes

1618
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 2: the local. You would never think that the Russia, who

1619
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 2: we say is our arch enemy today, has a lot

1620
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:25,799
Speaker 2: of foundations right there in the Republican Party.

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01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 3: When I see you're putting full interviews up, full transfer,

1622
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 3: full interviews, your bondste Ban show at the war Room.

1623
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:40,759
Speaker 3: You have your own podcast. Yeah, that's been going strong

1624
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 3: for some time. For how long actually two years? Two years? Yeah,

1625
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 3: two years. I am curious about the wider Internet strategy

1626
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 3: you've taken, not only for your camping but just for yourself.

1627
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 3: I mean, I find it fascinating in terms of how

1628
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 3: you can be described this new media versus a legacy media,

1629
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 3: for example. So let's I want to open that up

1630
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 3: a little bit. Can you explain sort of this wider

1631
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 3: internet strategy, because I think it's I do think there's

1632
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 3: a pattern with the work they you've been doing.

1633
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I'm just getting on the record as

1634
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 2: much as I can, and I'm creating that record if

1635
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 2: I can, because I don't trust the people who have

1636
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 2: kept the records to keep the records honestly, and I

1637
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,679
Speaker 2: think we've done a great job unless the big social

1638
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 2: media and content platforms decide to deplatform you all together

1639
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 2: and get rid of my content, which we do have

1640
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 2: it backed up in some places, so we will be

1641
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 2: able to get it up somewhere. But as so far

1642
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 2: as the record stands, now I've done a pretty good

1643
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 2: job of correcting the record on who I am and

1644
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 2: what I think about the most important issues of the day.

1645
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 2: When we live, you know, we live in an era

1646
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 2: where oftentimes those things are misrepresented about individuals. You know,

1647
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 2: the first thing people do is go to Wikipedia as

1648
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 2: if that's an authoritative source. I know they say they

1649
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 2: use authoritative sources, but when you're ortata, sources are compromised,

1650
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 2: like the New York Times, I mean, how authoritative are

1651
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 2: they really? So I've I've created a record. I've I've

1652
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 2: going on the record now for two straight years. I

1653
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 2: challenge anybody to go through two years of an hour

1654
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 2: and a half two hour long podcasts and find something

1655
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:22,640
Speaker 2: that that deserves a scrutiny. Scrutiny that I couldn't answer for.

1656
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 2: Some things I say that are controversial, and I say

1657
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 2: him intentionally, and I love to debate them, but nobody really, ever,

1658
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 2: you know, picks up the phone and and you know,

1659
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 2: issues that challenge.

1660
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 3: Have you I was going to ask, have you tried

1661
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 3: to reach out to people on the other side across

1662
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 3: the aisle of Democrats liberals to have that kind of conversation.

1663
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want to debate me. They know, I know,

1664
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 2: who have you? Who?

1665
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 3: Have you requested anything?

1666
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 2: Oh, we've requested, Ebrius from every requested interviews with Kloba

1667
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 2: Shah and Tina Smith.

1668
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 3: And I believe you spoke on a radio show in Clo. Correct.

1669
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you saw how that went. That was a

1670
01:36:55,320 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 2: bloodbath election integrity. Why were you in twenty eighteen on

1671
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 2: a documentary that said that the election machines can be

1672
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 2: hacked and now all of a sudden, it's conspiracy theory.

1673
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 2: She didn't have an answer for that question. She almost

1674
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 2: it looked like she visibly wanted to disappear. She was

1675
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,600
Speaker 2: fidgeting so bad in her seat. She was so uncomfortable

1676
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 2: with the line of questioning or the conversation. That was

1677
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 2: a pretty good clip too. We probably did about three

1678
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,719
Speaker 2: four million views across the Internet, not enough to change

1679
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 2: the election if the elections were secure.

1680
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm curious which media sources do you trust and why?

1681
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 2: Well, I definitely trust Steve, Definitely Trusteve Bennon in.

1682
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 3: The war room.

1683
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 2: I think Steve is probably one of the brightest political

1684
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 2: minds in American history, certainly in America today, and part

1685
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 2: of the part of the reason why is because he

1686
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 2: just for the most part, says it like it is.

1687
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 2: And he's not pandering to the Republican Party, he's not

1688
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 2: pandering to conservative ink, he's not pandering to some Democrat vote,

1689
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 2: or even some populist vote for that matter. Although he

1690
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 2: is a you know, a self admitted populist nationalist, you know,

1691
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 2: crystal nationalist, MAGA patriot, he's not pandering on any of

1692
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 2: the issues. He just says it like he really thinks

1693
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 2: it is. And I think that's one of the most

1694
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 2: you know, one of the most one of the biggest

1695
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 2: things lack in our culture in America, especially from the

1696
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 2: commentators and from media's people who just say it like

1697
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 2: it is, who aren't trying to pay bills or pander

1698
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 2: to the people who pay bills. They're just saying this

1699
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 2: is what it is. They used to do that on

1700
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 2: a firing line PBS, Like I go back and I

1701
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 2: have disagreements with William Buckley on some things, and I

1702
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 2: think there was a great interview that everybody should go

1703
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 2: and watch a firing Line between William Buckley and Philis Shaffley.

1704
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 2: Philip Shaffley is probably regarded as the godmother of Maga.

1705
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 2: She was the sort of fire brand nationalist populist woman

1706
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 2: back in that day. And they were having an argument

1707
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 2: about the Panama Canal and who who rightfully has or

1708
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 2: should have control over the Panama Canal and what, you know,

1709
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,719
Speaker 2: what action should be taken, if any, to maintain that control.

1710
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 2: And it's just a great representation of conservative inc William Buckley,

1711
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,600
Speaker 2: who is a brilliant man, by the way, as intellectual

1712
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 2: as they get, and a sort of tough nose Maga

1713
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 2: patriot woman who won't take no for an answer but

1714
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 2: also understands the issues. Phyllis Shaffley. Oh, is an incredible

1715
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 2: discussion between William Buckley and her, and she didn't back

1716
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 2: off an inch. I mean, she is as tough as

1717
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 2: they did. And that was a great sort of representation

1718
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 2: of what the modern day Maga movement is really all about.

1719
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 2: It's like, what is America's role in the world, and

1720
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 2: what is American politicians or government's duty to her people

1721
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 2: and her citizens.

1722
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 3: I oft to look that up. I've seen that interview.

1723
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 2: Actually, William Buckley and Phillis Shaffley your podcast.

1724
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 3: Tell me you said.

1725
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 2: I only said that because again I think that there

1726
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 2: was a conversation at a time in this country's history

1727
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 2: where you know, shit was actually getting talked about, and

1728
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 2: I mean the real meat and potatoes. And then we

1729
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 2: kind of went away from it and and politics became

1730
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 2: more pop culture than it was about political philosophy, and

1731
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 2: it kind of took on the same sort of fast food, uh,

1732
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:37,640
Speaker 2: you know, motif as as a reality TV you know,

1733
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 2: and in many ways, the crisis of our culture is

1734
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 2: that politics has become reality TV. And that's just disgusting.

1735
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 2: It's unsustainable, you know, culturally.

1736
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 3: But what you're doing is different with please call me crazy.

1737
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah no, but you know, what Steve is doing is different. Okay,

1738
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 2: what Bannon is doing is different. I think he's the

1739
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 2: tip of that spirit of just saying, hey, this is

1740
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 2: what the issues really are are. Let's talk about them

1741
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 2: for it, Like Israel, we still haven't gotten to Israel.

1742
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 2: We got to get there.

1743
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 3: But what about that show? What about your show? So

1744
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 3: tell me could you break it open for me? You

1745
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 3: said you've been working out for the past few years.

1746
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 3: How often do you put out a show? I mean,

1747
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 3: tell me a little bit more about just sometimes most

1748
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 3: of the time I try. I was doing Monday, Wednesday,

1749
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 3: Friday for a long time. Then I started doing the

1750
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 3: Saturday Morning Show live on Real America's Voice and I

1751
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 3: still do that every Saturday Morning live, and more recently

1752
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 3: I've tried to go to a daily show. Proven to

1753
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 3: be a little more difficult than I intended because of

1754
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 3: the campaign schedule, other things going on as well other obligations.

1755
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 3: But I plan to do a daily show, and I

1756
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 3: even planned to have a Sunday calling show.

1757
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 2: Me and Ryan have been working on getting all the

1758
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 2: technology set up for a Sunday calling show. I'm sure

1759
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,559
Speaker 2: that's going to be fun and entertaining as well. You

1760
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 2: have to call in yes please.

1761
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 3: How has building that show and expanding it as you've

1762
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:58,680
Speaker 3: been been How does that serve your mission? What is

1763
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 3: your mission when it comes to building you know?

1764
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,639
Speaker 2: And for me, it's really about getting on the record

1765
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 2: because I've spent in my young adult life. I'm thirty

1766
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 2: five years old now, but since I was twenty one

1767
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 2: years old, I've gone through being misrepresented by the media.

1768
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 2: First it was with the NBA, and everybody's saying, oh,

1769
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 2: Royce is crazy or Royce is just afraid to fly,

1770
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 2: when the historical record, in this case, the actual historical

1771
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 2: record reflects that the NBA didn't have a mental health

1772
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 2: policy when I was drafted, and I helped them draft

1773
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 2: a mental health policy they would later put in place

1774
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 2: and not give me any credit for my role in

1775
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 2: So I guess that was kind of my first political

1776
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 2: victory as a young adult, and it was significant. I mean,

1777
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 2: the NBA is one of the most influential institutions in

1778
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 2: the world culturally because basketball is such a great game

1779
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 2: and the skill level has evolved so much. I just

1780
01:42:57,000 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 2: marveled what the NBA players have become today. But that

1781
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 2: was a real political victory for me to be able

1782
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 2: to stand up for the mental health conversation and eventually

1783
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 2: get the NBA to change their entire collective bargain and

1784
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 2: agreement and policy on the issue of mental health. But

1785
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 2: yet when you go look at the mainstream media, then

1786
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 2: how they talk about me in that entire situation, it's

1787
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:28,639
Speaker 2: shorthanded to Royce White was afraid to fly and that's

1788
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:32,759
Speaker 2: why his career was derailed. No, I sacrificed my career

1789
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 2: on the front end to pause the entire global corporate

1790
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 2: community and say the human condition is important, and it

1791
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 2: has to be important, and if it's not important, then

1792
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:47,639
Speaker 2: we should just say that and move on. But let's

1793
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 2: not pretend.

1794
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:54,640
Speaker 3: Could you interpret when you say the mainstream media and

1795
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 3: the media that you're providing people, do you interpret that

1796
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 3: or at least draw that distinction for us a little.

1797
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 2: Bit better media?

1798
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 3: Well, mainstream versus the new media or the media that

1799
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 3: you're putting out there through this show.

1800
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 2: Oh well, the mainstream media is all the legacy institutions

1801
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 2: from New York Times, the Washington Post, even over the Guardian. Uh,

1802
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:15,680
Speaker 2: you know BBC all the way down the line. You

1803
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:20,680
Speaker 2: got your mainstream media television channels like ABC and CNN, MSNBC,

1804
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 2: Fox News, Uh, you know, the Wall Street Journal, the

1805
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 2: New York Post. In some regards, all of those institutions

1806
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 2: are more or less mainstream media legacy outlets.

1807
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:37,640
Speaker 3: And then, as how would you consider your show in

1808
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 3: position to say.

1809
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 2: My show is what they call a fly on an

1810
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 2: elephant's ass. Yeah, well, I mean it's just a very

1811
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 2: small show and the and the and the trillion dollar

1812
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 2: universe of the media and industrial complex. Just a little podcast,

1813
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 2: but it has a little bit of power because I

1814
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 2: speak the truth, and you know, we can we just

1815
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 2: continue to try and grow that that influence in that

1816
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:09,520
Speaker 2: audience as much as we can with great institutional pushback,

1817
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 2: with great institutional roadblocks like YouTube, for example, when they're

1818
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 2: they're demonetizing and shadow banning. One of my first episodes

1819
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 2: of my podcast, I had Alex Jones on as a guest.

1820
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 2: At the time, he was still banned from twitters now

1821
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,759
Speaker 2: x and uh. The entire episode was deleted and pulled

1822
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 2: from YouTube, which was strange because there are some interviews

1823
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 2: with Alex Jones that they allowed to be on YouTube,

1824
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 2: but they surely weren't letting minds stay on there.

1825
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 3: What has it been like having conversations in public by public,

1826
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 3: I mean broadcasted with Alex jon and Steve Bannon? Is

1827
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 3: these wider, bigger conservative voices and at times been accused

1828
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 3: of libel and and and actually successful lawsuits against Alex Jones.

1829
01:45:58,120 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Israel.

1830
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,680
Speaker 3: I still want to focus on the American election. That

1831
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 3: by that, I mean you're campaign What about Israel?

1832
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the biggest the if you if you if,

1833
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,680
Speaker 2: if you look at the metrics across social media, the

1834
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 2: most contentious issue or the hottest issue of American politics

1835
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,639
Speaker 2: is Israel. I mean, so we can't even really talk

1836
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 2: about American elections or American political campaigns without talking about Israel,

1837
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 2: especially you talk about the midterms. Epstein, Marjorie Taylor Green,

1838
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 2: you brought it up. I just want to I just

1839
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 2: want to go back to it. Make sure that we

1840
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 2: don't run out of time, because I think it's important.

1841
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 2: I think might be one of the most important things

1842
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:37,719
Speaker 2: in history.

1843
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 3: How about this, Let me get through these questions and

1844
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 3: then and then we can talk about Israel. How does

1845
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 3: that sound? Because I want to make sure you feel

1846
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 3: like you can talk about what you want to talk. Great. Okay,

1847
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,839
Speaker 3: say you become Minnesota's next to us senatorial would you

1848
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 3: would you work across party lines to accomplish change?

1849
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 2: There are no party lines anymore.

1850
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 3: What do you mean by that?

1851
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 2: There are no party lines? There's only there's only there.

1852
01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 2: There are only patriots and nationalists and globalists. There are

1853
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 2: no party lines.

1854
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 3: But there are still senators from different party perspectives.

1855
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean on paper on for the theater. So

1856
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 2: are you willing there aren't There aren't a handful of

1857
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 2: America First unbought and paid for United States senators in

1858
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 2: the entire United States Senate.

1859
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 3: How about this? How would you collaborate with.

1860
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 2: Tell the truth. I'm not collaborating with traders. I'm not

1861
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 2: collaborating with And some people would say, well, that that

1862
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,520
Speaker 2: makes you unqualified to run for the office. The prerequisite

1863
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 2: is that you have to become enmeshed in the corruption

1864
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,639
Speaker 2: of the machine in order to be a viable candidate.

1865
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 2: And I think that's what's wrong with American political culture,

1866
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 2: is that we expect our candidates to sell out, but

1867
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 2: then we tell them not to.

1868
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 3: Collaboration is selling out.

1869
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 2: If, oh, if the collaboration is to undermine the fabric

1870
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:55,440
Speaker 2: of this country and the value of citizenship.

1871
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 3: For sure. I'm thinking about like writing bills and like.

1872
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 2: Where do you think the seller and out of this

1873
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 2: nation happens?

1874
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 3: Fine, all right, I clearly you have issue with.

1875
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:09,360
Speaker 2: The system, for sure. I have huge issues with the system.

1876
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 2: I have huge issues with omnibus bills. I have huge

1877
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 2: issues with the special interests in lobby money in DC.

1878
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 2: I have a huge issue with the fact that it's

1879
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 2: a conventional prerequisite that a United States Senate candidate has

1880
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 2: to have pre committed to a lobby, a special interest

1881
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 2: in lobby to have any chance of raising the money

1882
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 2: necessary to win one of these campaigns. I object to

1883
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 2: all of that, and I think Marjorie Taylor Green does

1884
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 2: too in some respects. That's why she's you know, she's

1885
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 2: she's taken some of the action.

1886
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 3: That she Yet I mean, what about the amendments US Constitution.

1887
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:45,680
Speaker 3: I mean, these are things part of the system and

1888
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 3: checks and balances. Executive brands, judicial brands.

1889
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:49,720
Speaker 2: Well, that's all good. I mean, no, I don't think

1890
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 2: that the entire government is a wash. The way that

1891
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 2: it works as a wash. I think that the way

1892
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 2: that our politicians do it and the way that our

1893
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:00,640
Speaker 2: American people accept it is corre and we all know

1894
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 2: it's corrupt.

1895
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 3: So how would you enter say as a wait a second,

1896
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,440
Speaker 3: Wait a second, this is the heresy of democracy.

1897
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 2: Remember last time we talked, I think I talked about

1898
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 2: the heresy of democracy. That there are four great There

1899
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:23,480
Speaker 2: are four great heresies of the West, the scientific method, democracy,

1900
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 2: computer technology, and the last and final one will be

1901
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence. And when I say the heresies of the West,

1902
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 2: it was man's attempt to bridge the gap between themselves

1903
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 2: and God, that we could that we could solve the

1904
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:38,799
Speaker 2: equation that would ultimately make man God.

1905
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 3: So you've taken issue with all these with these four Yes.

1906
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 2: Now, the key one in that is again the scientific method, democracy,

1907
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 2: computer technology, and artificial intelligence. You're against democracy, the heresy

1908
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 2: of democracy. I'm against the heresy of it.

1909
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm confused.

1910
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 2: I guess the heresy of democracy is that all democratic

1911
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 2: majorities are made equal and righteous. It's not true. All

1912
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 2: democratic majorities are not made equal, and they certainly aren't

1913
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 2: made righteous. If we look across history, it's more often

1914
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 2: that a democratic majority, or that a majority of any

1915
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 2: sort is a reflection of is a reflection of its

1916
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 2: own ineptitude. Yeah. No, I mean if you look across

1917
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:25,879
Speaker 2: history and you say, when was the time where mankind

1918
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 2: or or humanity really had a good grasp of things?

1919
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 2: Not often? So when does make Gandhi used to say this.

1920
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 2: Gandhi used to say, there's a real falsity to multiply propagation.

1921
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 2: Just because a majority of people say a thing doesn't

1922
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 2: make it true. Certainly doesn't make it righteous. So there's

1923
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:50,600
Speaker 2: a heresy in that we in Western society have agreed

1924
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 2: that if we have a fifty one plus majority, then

1925
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,679
Speaker 2: it means we did the right thing. That was a heresy,

1926
01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 2: It's a heresy of the West, and it continues to

1927
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:01,000
Speaker 2: plague us to this day.

1928
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 3: I think part of the reason why I'm my point.

1929
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 2: Bringing that up is the United States Senate is a

1930
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 2: Democrat majority body. Yes, there has to be a majority

1931
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 2: in order to get bills passed. And that's part of

1932
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 2: the insulation of the corruption. That one man can't stand

1933
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 2: up in the United States Senate and force the other

1934
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 2: the United States Senators, to do the right thing. But

1935
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Speaker 2: we can tell the truth.

1936
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Speaker 3: Is that called checks and balances.

1937
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Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, that's what they can That's what they say.

1938
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Speaker 3: I guess let's put it this way.

1939
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Speaker 2: That's what they call it. That's what they say. It

1940
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 2: is checks and balances. It's more like purveyors of the

1941
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 2: status quo.

1942
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 3: Let me bring it down to the film, or at

1943
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 3: least myself here. The reason why American Voice is the

1944
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 3: reason why I continue to get building is because of

1945
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:46,560
Speaker 3: not necessarily the heresy of democracy, but the hope of democracy.

1946
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 3: That is, that is the number of people we've been

1947
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Speaker 3: following across country to put in a vote yes towards

1948
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 3: their beliefs and under a country that they feel that

1949
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 3: they have a democratic vote for.

1950
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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not saying that there isn't hope in democracy.

1951
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 2: I'm saying that there is heresy in it, and that

1952
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 2: right now the heresy is the prevailing it has prevailed.

1953
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 2: The hope of democracy has yet to prevail. The hope

1954
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 2: of democracy still exists, It's still there, but it has

1955
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 2: yet to prevail. And it certainly has yet to prevail

1956
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Speaker 2: in the United States, Senate.

1957
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:22,639
Speaker 1: Tireget dot com where convenience meets the road. Why make

1958
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:26,919
Speaker 1: buy entires complicated with tireget dot com. It's simple tireget

1959
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 1: dot com, one site, a few clicks, and the tires

1960
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 1: of your choice are shipped to an installer right by

1961
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 1: your house.

1962
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 3: In the lieu of said democracy. What is your plan

1963
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 3: if you don't get the nomination for this?

1964
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:50,839
Speaker 2: For this coming Senate, I'm going to win a nomination.

1965
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:57,400
Speaker 2: All things fair, I'm winning the nomination. The Minnesota Republican

1966
01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 2: Party has gone maga and there's nothing anybody can do it.

1967
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 2: They have to cheat me, and I don't. I don't

1968
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:03,600
Speaker 2: put it past them cheat me.

1969
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 3: I mean, what about that Republican form It seemed like

1970
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 3: there was a lot of pushback.

1971
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 2: On did it seem like there was a lot of pushback.

1972
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:15,520
Speaker 3: It seemed like there was a big conversation, maybe some disagreement.

1973
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 2: In there, there wasn't any pushback. I said what I said,

1974
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 2: and they all sat there and listened because they knew

1975
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 2: it was true. Another example of the heresy of democracy. Right,

1976
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 2: me up there with nine other men, but in the

1977
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 2: face of the truth, they ought to sit there and

1978
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 2: take it because they knew. They knew they faced a

1979
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 2: person who understood and would never back down. So they

1980
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 2: cut my mic. But I still talk, didn't I? I did, Yes,

1981
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 2: I did. And that's exactly what I would do in

1982
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 2: the Senate. And that doesn't mean that all one hundred

1983
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 2: United States Senators would choose not to sell out the

1984
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 2: American people, but then at least American people would have

1985
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 2: a voice within the Senate that's going to tell them

1986
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:52,720
Speaker 2: the truth, and there's value to that.

1987
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 3: What are the next events of your campaign? In other words,

1988
01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 3: we'd love to keep following you as we have five years. Yeah,

1989
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 3: what are some big miles since you're trying to hit.

1990
01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 2: I think it's January? What well be January thirteenth? Maybe

1991
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 2: doing another town, oh, same spot at same time, So.

1992
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 3: Any big other events down the line to.

1993
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know that's campaign season. You got

1994
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 2: the convention, State convention coming up, the endorsement convention. Got

1995
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff coming up, man, this campaign season.

1996
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 3: When's the last time you worked with Tyo?

1997
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 2: I mean I haven't worked with Tyle since twenty twenty.

1998
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 3: Okay, since way back then.

1999
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good he's I mean, he's a friend,

2000
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 2: he's a man of the community, and he's you know,

2001
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 2: he's done the best he can to make his life

2002
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 2: something meaningful and try to help people. And I respect that,

2003
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 2: and I respect him, and he's a guy who I

2004
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 2: think has a lot of a lot of common sense

2005
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 2: in a world that has lost a lot of common sense.

2006
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 3: What are you looking forward to talking with him about tomorrow?

2007
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 3: Because we are having a conversation.

2008
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I just look forward to seeing Tayo as

2009
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 2: a as a as a friend who I've known since

2010
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 2: I was seventeen, eighteen years old. I don't care what

2011
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 2: we talk about.

2012
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 3: That's great. Actually, yeah, it's a good dude. Would you

2013
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 3: ever not just consider it but also a reach to

2014
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 3: get him to help you with your campaign.

2015
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 2: If he wanted to. I mean, I wouldn't be against it,

2016
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 2: but I don't require people to help me.

2017
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 3: No, I never required it's more like, how would you

2018
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:36,320
Speaker 3: convince him?

2019
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 2: We're like trying to get him. Tell him the same

2020
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 2: way I tell everybody else. You get the government you deserve,

2021
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 2: and by god, we all will. But you know, my

2022
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 2: campaign is not about My campaign is not so much

2023
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 2: about that kind of thing. You know. It's about the truth, man,

2024
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 2: It's about the truth, telling people the issues. If this

2025
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 2: interview is what my campaign is about. This right here,

2026
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 2: what we're doing right now, articulation of the ideas, the

2027
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:09,919
Speaker 2: rigorous intellectual dissection of of of our philosophy in Western society,

2028
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 2: and what we're going to do going forward, how we

2029
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 2: even think about things, how we even frame the questions.

2030
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 2: What should we be asking, what should we be demanding

2031
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 2: of our political candidates? What's the right way to be

2032
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 2: involved in the political process? What is mean to have

2033
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 2: to be a citizen civic duty? You know, these are

2034
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 2: the things that I'm interested in, and that's not for everybody.

2035
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 2: It's a somewhat lonely road, but one that you know

2036
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 2: needs to needs to be journeyed down anyway.

2037
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 3: To ground it in this like well, that's the last

2038
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 3: question to ground it in the framework of the project.

2039
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 3: The American Voices project. Since the change on the streets

2040
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 3: that March Black forth, how have you grown or changed

2041
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 3: as an individual since that compelling, powerful work.

2042
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not a completely different person five

2043
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 2: or six years later, then you've probably failed at life.

2044
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 2: So I'm completely different, evolved, more advanced, more courageous than

2045
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 2: I was even then, because it's easy to stand up

2046
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 2: and lead a peaceful protests in the heart of the

2047
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 2: George Floyd situation. In some sense, it wasn't easy to

2048
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:31,920
Speaker 2: do it the way that I did it, or say

2049
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 2: the things that I said. But overall, the momentum is

2050
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 2: on the side of the people in that George Floyd

2051
01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty situation environment. To run against the entire weight

2052
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 2: of the American political elite, that's dangerous.

2053
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 3: You called for change, then have you seen progress with

2054
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 3: that change?

2055
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2056
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 3: Of course.

2057
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 2: Well, I think the advent of social media has at

2058
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 2: least opened up a political dialogue in this country that

2059
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:10,560
Speaker 2: is still taking shape, but it's open, and you know,

2060
01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 2: more than ever, people are contributing a lot. And in that,

2061
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 2: you know, in that they are experimenting, and people are

2062
01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 2: saying things that are unconventional, and that's good. That's good,

2063
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 2: you know, scientific heresy of scientific method. There isn't a

2064
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 2: scientific consensus. Science is supposed to be experiment, trial there,

2065
01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 2: you know, check and so on and so forth. And

2066
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 2: it's the same thing in the conversation, same thing in

2067
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 2: the culture is people should be testing the boundaries of

2068
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 2: culture and ideas and saying, well, what about this, and

2069
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 2: maybe those things take root, maybe they don't. President Trump's

2070
01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 2: certainly did. That's why, that's why he won the narrative

2071
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four.

2072
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 3: To be fair in science, at least you can test

2073
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 3: an experiment and do well to prove H two O is.

2074
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 2: To a degree, to a degree, there is some verifiable science.

2075
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 2: There's a lot of science that we say is verifiable

2076
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 2: or safe or sure that isn't so sure, because if

2077
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:21,040
Speaker 2: it was, we probably wouldn't have had a virus breakout

2078
01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:22,080
Speaker 2: of a lab there in Wuhan.

2079
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:26,640
Speaker 3: Right, last question, because I want to make sure you

2080
01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 3: get to Israel.

2081
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 2: Okay, remember now you want to get to Israel. You

2082
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:34,600
Speaker 2: asked me about Marthore Taylor Green and Epstein. Yeah, because

2083
01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:37,200
Speaker 2: I just want to answer it. Okay, Okay, all right,

2084
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 2: let me be clear, I'm not stump speeching about israel

2085
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 2: I talk about it so much. I'm exhausted, but we

2086
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 2: are here in PBS and might as well.

2087
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 3: I am curious. Did you vote for President Trump in

2088
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 3: twenty eight for twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen.

2089
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen? No, I didn't vote it all in twenty sixteen.

2090
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 2: I was living in Canada at the time.

2091
01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 3: Why oh, I didn't? Could you like pack?

2092
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was playing professional basket ball and kent in London,

2093
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:03,320
Speaker 2: Ontario in twenty sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen.

2094
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:07,120
Speaker 3: And what you were seeing from afar looking into what

2095
02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:11,520
Speaker 3: was happening here? How did that shape then to what

2096
02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 3: it is now?

2097
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this. I thought that Hillary was

2098
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 2: corrupt in I thought that President Trump made some great

2099
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:20,120
Speaker 2: points about Hillary Clinton. Then if you asked anybody in

2100
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:22,520
Speaker 2: my family, my mom, or anybody else at the time,

2101
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 2: I was staying, then, hey, you know, you may not

2102
02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 2: like the way President Trump is going about it or

2103
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:30,160
Speaker 2: doing it, but when he says all of your donors

2104
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:33,200
Speaker 2: take the same tax cuts I do, that was like

2105
02:00:33,240 --> 02:00:35,360
Speaker 2: a gut punch to the entire status quo.

2106
02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:37,920
Speaker 3: There Also, I'm confused. I'm you're an American citizen. Why

2107
02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 3: didn't you vote?

2108
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:46,360
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if you should be able

2109
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:50,920
Speaker 2: to vote if you're living in another country.

2110
02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 3: That being said, people who are in other countries.

2111
02:00:54,400 --> 02:00:56,000
Speaker 2: American citizens, they vote like for.

2112
02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:58,560
Speaker 3: Example, I weren'ting abroad for some of the elections. I

2113
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 3: threw my vote because act.

2114
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 2: At the time, you know it, I just didn't feel

2115
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:09,400
Speaker 2: comfortable with it. I didn't feel comfortable with.

2116
02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 3: You know.

2117
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 2: No. No, Now, I turned eighteen right after President Obama

2118
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 2: was elected in on nine, so that would have been

2119
02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:19,800
Speaker 2: the first election I could have voted. I couldn't. I

2120
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:21,360
Speaker 2: couldn't vote in it, But that would have been the

2121
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:23,800
Speaker 2: first time I was even eighteen years old.

2122
02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 3: We made a point not to vote.

2123
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:31,320
Speaker 2: In twenty twelve, I didn't vote either.

2124
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 3: Okay, this is fascinating.

2125
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:37,240
Speaker 2: Sometimes well sometimes people should have stained their vote.

2126
02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 3: But why did you not vote?

2127
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:43,919
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll tell you. In twenty twelve and Obama's second term,

2128
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:49,240
Speaker 2: I was already hip to Barack Obama and Mitt Romney

2129
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 2: was a complete and other, uh embarrassment, So I have

2130
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 2: stained my vote. Then twenty sixteen, I wasn't living in

2131
02:01:57,160 --> 02:01:59,320
Speaker 2: the country. I think it. I don't think it's appropriate

2132
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:02,640
Speaker 2: to be living in another country full time and cast

2133
02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:04,839
Speaker 2: a ballot in this country, even though I'm a citizen.

2134
02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't think that that's right.

2135
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:12,200
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was right at the time. Maybe

2136
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:15,600
Speaker 2: now the question like so as that was my thought

2137
02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:19,200
Speaker 2: process is like, Hey, I'm living in Canada full time.

2138
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:23,840
Speaker 2: You know, maybe I shouldn't. You know, but you weren't

2139
02:02:23,880 --> 02:02:26,640
Speaker 2: able to vote in Canadian elections. No, no, no, no,

2140
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:28,760
Speaker 2: I didn't try to vote in Canadian elections. Maybe they

2141
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:30,880
Speaker 2: would have let me. I don't know how good secure

2142
02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 2: the Canadians has missed, but not don't not really my issue,

2143
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:38,280
Speaker 2: right unless we annex Canada, then then we'll deal with

2144
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:39,320
Speaker 2: their election integrity.

2145
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:44,839
Speaker 3: Next, let's return to the Epstein files and Marjorie Taylor police.

2146
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 3: It has become these uh, And that's not just these two.

2147
02:02:49,080 --> 02:02:53,280
Speaker 3: It's a pattern within the Republican Party where there's concerns

2148
02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:58,800
Speaker 3: about Trump been feeling like he is open to releasing

2149
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:02,640
Speaker 3: all the files its earnestness, as well as Marjorie Taylor

2150
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 3: Green's argument and perspective that he is not America first anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, I'm curious where you sit in the landscape of

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Speaker 3: these issues happening within the revolting party.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this. When I first ran for office

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02:03:22,760 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, I was running for Congressional District

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Speaker 2: five and I got a call from the Washington Post

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02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:36,240
Speaker 2: and they asked me if I supported Marjorie Taylor Green

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Speaker 2: and more specifically, if I supported her showing up at

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Speaker 2: the rally of ultra white wing Nick Flintes. And at

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Speaker 2: the time I didn't even a question. At the time,

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know who Nick Flintes was. I asked.

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02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 2: I remember asking the reporter is he Spanish or is

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Speaker 2: he Latino or something? And she was like, no, Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. S you know this is gonna. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what he is.

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Speaker 3: I think he's pretty clear about who he is.

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02:04:06,280 --> 02:04:08,440
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's so clear about who he is, honestly,

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Speaker 2: but that's that's neither here nor there. Obviously, he has

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Speaker 2: Latino heritage. I think he's Italian and Latino, or she

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have a name like Flintest anyway, so I think

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Speaker 2: maybe Mexican. I'm not sure exactly what is his heritage is,

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02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:25,160
Speaker 2: but regardless, he's.

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Speaker 3: Pretty open about his perspective of white supremacy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's as open about it, as people say, explain,

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Speaker 2: but we'll talk. We'll talk about that because I think

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Speaker 2: Nick flint Has is an important piece of this entire

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Speaker 2: Israel dialogue. If people, if people don't recognize that, then

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Speaker 2: then not living in reality. There's a reason why Nick

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Speaker 2: flint Has his podcast went number one on Spotify before

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02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:52,040
Speaker 2: they deplatformed him. It says something about the inertia of

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Speaker 2: the political dialogue in this country. But anyway, at the time,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know who Nick Fointes was, but I knew

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Speaker 2: Marjorie from War Room. And like I said, I think

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02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:08,680
Speaker 2: Marjorie local crime, Yeah, like local crime in Minneapolis. There

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 3: I think Marjorie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think Marjorie has a lot of testicular

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02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:19,840
Speaker 2: fortitude for a woman. Yeah, and she's shown that from

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Speaker 2: the beginning. Do I agree with her on every issue? No? Do.

2190
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Speaker 2: I think she's an intellectual juggernaut. Doesn't need to be

2191
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 2: you know. You know, simple people can tell a big, big,

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Speaker 2: impactful truths. And you know, I say that as a

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Speaker 2: preface because I've always respected Marjorie and I was there

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02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:47,440
Speaker 2: with Marjorie the day that Steve Bannon was hauled off

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02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:51,800
Speaker 2: to Danbury Federal Prison. And that kangaroo witch hunt show

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02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:57,040
Speaker 2: trial that the Congress put on for his contempt by

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02:05:57,080 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 2: Benny Thompson and the rest of the apparat checks in

2198
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:06,640
Speaker 2: DC and the Democrat Party Nancy Pelosi. So I just

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Speaker 2: respect Marjorie I got love for on a personal level.

2200
02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:12,360
Speaker 2: Do I agree with her bowing out of the fight.

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02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:17,520
Speaker 2: Not at all, Not at all. Do I agree with

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Speaker 2: her making her rounds on the on the Democratic nightly

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02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:26,600
Speaker 2: news like CNN and representing that as though CNN is

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02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:29,600
Speaker 2: really interested in her position rather than the you know,

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02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:33,240
Speaker 2: the takedown of President Trump from within because Marjorie has

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02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 2: been such a close ally to him over the years.

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02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,120
Speaker 2: I'm not buying it for a second. I know exactly

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02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:42,560
Speaker 2: who Caitlyn Collins is, and there's nothing that Marjorie Taylor

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Speaker 2: Green is gonna say on a show with Caitlyn Collins

2210
02:06:45,440 --> 02:06:50,680
Speaker 2: that's going to change my awareness of Caitlyn collins motivation. Now,

2211
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Speaker 2: what Marjorie says, we can we can debate about, and

2212
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:56,560
Speaker 2: we'll talk about Israel and Epstein now, but do you

2213
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Speaker 2: know what CNN's purpose is for doing it?

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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02:07:00,080 --> 02:07:05,640
Speaker 2: CNN didn't care about Epstein until it provided the possibility

2216
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:09,720
Speaker 2: to be detrimental to President Trump's image, because if they did,

2217
02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:12,680
Speaker 2: then Epstein would have been a big deal. Since I

2218
02:07:12,680 --> 02:07:16,480
Speaker 2: don't know Bill Clinton was president, right, I mean right,

2219
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:20,680
Speaker 2: because obviously the history of Epstein and this entire deal.

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Speaker 3: He has a long history. He has a long has a.

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Speaker 2: It goes back to the President Bill Clinton and President

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Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, if if my history serves me right, was

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Speaker 2: president when I was born in the nineteen nineties and

2224
02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:41,840
Speaker 2: ninety one, Bill Clinton was president. So we're in twenty

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02:07:41,920 --> 02:07:46,280
Speaker 2: twenty six. That's a longer time for Jeffrey to be

2226
02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:49,839
Speaker 2: bouncing around there. And this isn't the it's not recently

2227
02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:55,000
Speaker 2: that whispers of Epstein's transgressions, you know, surfaced people when

2228
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:57,520
Speaker 2: you do shit like that, let me say this, when

2229
02:07:57,560 --> 02:08:00,680
Speaker 2: you do shit like Jeffrey Epstein was doing, whether the

2230
02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 2: general public knew about it or not is one thing,

2231
02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:07,880
Speaker 2: but the political elites in this country new. More importantly,

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Speaker 2: it's it seems clear that the intelligence community in this

2233
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:15,120
Speaker 2: country new And for that reason, the fact that this

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02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:21,200
Speaker 2: is only coming up now for the Democrat media seems

2235
02:08:21,200 --> 02:08:25,160
Speaker 2: blatantly obvious that it's in its intention, its motive is

2236
02:08:25,200 --> 02:08:26,960
Speaker 2: to try and tie it to President Trump.

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Speaker 3: I'm confused. Word Republicans the one who released more of

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Speaker 3: the documents.

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Speaker 2: Though true, true, But again, he's the president. He has

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Speaker 2: the levers of power. The FBI and the the the

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02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,720
Speaker 2: d n I and all the other intelligence agencies are

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02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:48,400
Speaker 2: under his control currently, So for the for the files

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Speaker 2: to not be released is uh is detrimental to his

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02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:55,680
Speaker 2: public approval, as it should be, and the files should

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Speaker 2: be released in full. And I think we're set what

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Speaker 2: in a couple of days, you know, the files, and

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02:09:01,720 --> 02:09:04,640
Speaker 2: I think he's asked to release all the files. We'll see.

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02:09:04,840 --> 02:09:07,959
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a real inflection point of American

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02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:12,000
Speaker 2: history here, this Epstein thing. It's not inconsequential at all,

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Speaker 2: and it's not a hoax. And I think where I

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02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:17,680
Speaker 2: would part company with President Trump and his assessment of

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02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:21,760
Speaker 2: the whole situation is well the Epstein thing. And granted,

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02:09:21,800 --> 02:09:23,840
Speaker 2: he may know some things about the origins of this

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02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:27,280
Speaker 2: entire Epstein deal that the American public doesn't know or

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Speaker 2: isn't allowed to know because it's classified intelligence, classified intelligence,

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Speaker 2: which I do think it is, by the way, so

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Speaker 2: that may be part of it. But when the American

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02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:41,960
Speaker 2: people want to know about a child trafficker or a

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02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:48,200
Speaker 2: child molestor or a pedophile of Jeffrey Epstein's reach and

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02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:52,960
Speaker 2: what it would appear to be political significance. There's nothing

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Speaker 2: unwarranted about that. The American people want to know, and

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02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:00,600
Speaker 2: they should know, and we should have those was released.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's one of the things that Marjorie Taylor Green

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Speaker 3: is absolutely become a part of that.

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Speaker 2: I just don't agree that CNN has any real interest

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02:10:08,120 --> 02:10:11,480
Speaker 2: in the in the you know, in the prosperity of

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02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:12,880
Speaker 2: this country or it's it's people.

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about Cna'm talking abou Marchin Rreott.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but my point is on behalf of the MAGA movement.

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Speaker 2: I love Marjory Taylor Green, and I think she has

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Speaker 2: more testicular fortitude than about ninety five percent of the

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02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:28,440
Speaker 2: men in the in the Congress. However, I hold people

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Speaker 2: to a high standard. They call me the hatchet man

2274
02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:32,360
Speaker 2: in the MAGA movement for a reason. I hope people

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02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:34,879
Speaker 2: do a high standard and I and I don't regard

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Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green going through the you know, the Democrat

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02:10:39,160 --> 02:10:42,640
Speaker 2: media stopping grounds as being one hundred percent on the

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02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:45,680
Speaker 2: up and up for the Democrats. They may give her

2279
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:49,200
Speaker 2: a platform. But it seems that the Democrat media will

2280
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:51,640
Speaker 2: give anybody a platform who's willing to say something that

2281
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:53,480
Speaker 2: tears at President Trump's image.

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Speaker 3: But she left and said that she's not a part

2283
02:10:57,080 --> 02:10:59,120
Speaker 3: of the Maga movement anymore.

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02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, she can say that, but you know, you can't

2285
02:11:02,320 --> 02:11:07,840
Speaker 2: really if you believe in the ideas fundamentally on a

2286
02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:13,280
Speaker 2: philosophical level, you can't leave the Maga movement. It's a

2287
02:11:13,280 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 2: movement about the basic philosophy of our nation. It's a

2288
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:22,480
Speaker 2: movement about the call against corruption of the political elite. Now,

2289
02:11:22,480 --> 02:11:25,080
Speaker 2: you can have problems with the MACA leaders. You can

2290
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:27,960
Speaker 2: say President Trump is no longer a genuine MAGA leader,

2291
02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:30,720
Speaker 2: but you can't say that you've left the Maga movement,

2292
02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:33,640
Speaker 2: because the Maga movement is intrinsic to anybody who actually

2293
02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:38,040
Speaker 2: cares about the prosperity and stability of this nation. I'd

2294
02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:41,000
Speaker 2: be CAUs I'm saying I'm not an American anymore.

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Speaker 3: I'd be curious to hear what she says to that point.

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02:11:43,600 --> 02:11:46,080
Speaker 2: Me, I would too, And I invite any any day

2297
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Speaker 2: she wants to talk about it. We could.

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Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair Israel, Let's talk about Israel.

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Speaker 2: Well, I do think that Jeffrey Epstein was working with

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Speaker 2: Israeli intelligence.

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Speaker 3: How do you know that?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, just look at his connections. If if

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02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:04,040
Speaker 2: I or you or anybody else President Trump, even for example,

2304
02:12:04,120 --> 02:12:08,680
Speaker 2: had the loose connections to m I six and Israeli

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02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:11,960
Speaker 2: intelligence that Jeffrey Epstein appears to have, we would be

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02:12:12,040 --> 02:12:13,920
Speaker 2: it would be a foregone conclusion that it should at

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02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:18,120
Speaker 2: least be considered that that Israel Israeli intelligence was involved

2308
02:12:18,320 --> 02:12:18,960
Speaker 2: working with them.

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02:12:18,960 --> 02:12:20,600
Speaker 3: How and too an end? What do you what is

2310
02:12:20,640 --> 02:12:21,600
Speaker 3: this story?

2311
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:26,840
Speaker 2: I think that Massad is not afraid to transgress what

2312
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:32,480
Speaker 2: they call international law or standards about espionage. We know

2313
02:12:32,560 --> 02:12:37,040
Speaker 2: that from our own CIA testimony agents from within the

2314
02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:43,880
Speaker 2: CIA that report that Israel's intelligence officers would routinely try

2315
02:12:43,960 --> 02:12:49,200
Speaker 2: and bug office rooms and vehicles and other things like that,

2316
02:12:49,280 --> 02:12:50,800
Speaker 2: and when they would visit America.

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Speaker 3: I guess maybe get more specific with me about Israel.

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Speaker 3: Are you saying that there's an filtration efforts by Israel?

2319
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Speaker 2: Like, don't explains infiltration infiltration effort? I think that they

2320
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Speaker 2: have infiltrated. I think that you know, from the broadest

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Speaker 2: point of view, Israel is a geopolitical cornerstone of a

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02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:24,560
Speaker 2: globalist agenda by nature because of its strategic location energy, oil,

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02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:28,720
Speaker 2: the Middle East being a you know, a routine place

2324
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:33,320
Speaker 2: that international interest can can go to and draw upon

2325
02:13:33,480 --> 02:13:39,240
Speaker 2: to foster war, conflict, change, economy, all kinds of things

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Speaker 2: that flow through the Suez Canal for example, or the

2327
02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:45,360
Speaker 2: Middle East. So Israel is firmly a part of an

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02:13:45,360 --> 02:13:50,080
Speaker 2: ongoing geopolitical strategy for many, many interested parties and nations.

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Speaker 3: How as much started as you put to Israel, how

2330
02:13:54,520 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 3: does it play into your world being, especially your campaign?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, ground me a little bit. There are no

2332
02:14:01,400 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 2: there is no Democrat or Republican party, I tell people.

2333
02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:07,960
Speaker 3: And yet I have to like, I mean, I'm an independence,

2334
02:14:08,520 --> 02:14:11,120
Speaker 3: but people are registered Democrats, people are Publican.

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02:14:12,320 --> 02:14:14,680
Speaker 2: It's a fugazi, That's what I'm saying. It's it's it's a.

2336
02:14:14,800 --> 02:14:18,720
Speaker 2: It's a it's smoking mirrors, it's it's a. It's fictitious.

2337
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:22,600
Speaker 2: Then why run because you have to represent the thing that. No,

2338
02:14:22,840 --> 02:14:23,440
Speaker 2: it's not that.

2339
02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:25,880
Speaker 3: It's under under under one side, one party.

2340
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:34,920
Speaker 2: It's that without honest representation, it doesn't exist. The Republican Yeah, okay,

2341
02:14:35,000 --> 02:14:35,840
Speaker 2: let me I'll tell.

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02:14:35,680 --> 02:14:37,800
Speaker 3: You yeah again, smoother brain.

2343
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Republican Party is not the Republican Party if

2344
02:14:42,800 --> 02:14:49,480
Speaker 2: every Republican in it is interested, is interested, you know,

2345
02:14:49,880 --> 02:14:54,000
Speaker 2: economically interested, especially interested, let's say, especially interested, special interest

2346
02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:58,520
Speaker 2: in policy that destroys a Republican form of government, the

2347
02:14:58,560 --> 02:15:01,600
Speaker 2: guarantee of a Republican form of government, or the philosophy

2348
02:15:01,600 --> 02:15:06,440
Speaker 2: of republicanism, the philosophy of republicanism. And this is what

2349
02:15:06,520 --> 02:15:08,760
Speaker 2: I tell people about why I'm running as a Republican.

2350
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:13,120
Speaker 2: Two things. The Republican Party is the only political party

2351
02:15:13,120 --> 02:15:18,000
Speaker 2: that at least pretends to accept some room for God

2352
02:15:18,040 --> 02:15:21,680
Speaker 2: and Jesus Christ. Culturally, the Democrat Party as a political

2353
02:15:21,680 --> 02:15:26,320
Speaker 2: platform has all but rejected God and even mocked Christianity

2354
02:15:26,360 --> 02:15:30,760
Speaker 2: as nothing more than conspiracy theory, fantasy, or, in more

2355
02:15:30,840 --> 02:15:36,920
Speaker 2: modern terms, a singer representation of white supremacy. Christian Democrats, No,

2356
02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:39,320
Speaker 2: they're not a lot of Christian Democrats, because if you're

2357
02:15:39,320 --> 02:15:42,360
Speaker 2: a Christian, if you're a Christian, you don't let people

2358
02:15:42,400 --> 02:15:45,920
Speaker 2: mock christ You don't let people claim that Christianity is

2359
02:15:46,360 --> 02:15:49,640
Speaker 2: a quack or conspiracy theory. That's deeply offensive.

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Speaker 3: Who said that? Who said that? Well, I guess many

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Speaker 3: Democrat pundits have said that over the last I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Ten to fifteen years, many Democrats have said.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying that there are probably a lot of

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Speaker 3: Christian Democrats who take issue with what you're saying.

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02:16:05,240 --> 02:16:07,280
Speaker 2: Oh, there are a lot of Christian Democrats that will

2366
02:16:07,320 --> 02:16:11,440
Speaker 2: pretend that the Democratic Party hasn't become hasn't become a

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02:16:11,480 --> 02:16:14,840
Speaker 2: party that rejects that fundamentally rejects christ There certainly are

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Speaker 2: a lot of Christian Democrats who would say that, like

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Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi says she's a Christian, but she's aligned with

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Speaker 2: the political party that fundamentally rejects the cultural idea or

2371
02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:26,960
Speaker 2: significance or importance of God.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's in the mission of being a Democrat.

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02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not paying attention.

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02:16:33,560 --> 02:16:34,640
Speaker 3: How am I not paying attention?

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02:16:34,760 --> 02:16:40,680
Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's put it this way. When I hear

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02:16:42,280 --> 02:16:44,959
Speaker 2: let's say The View, for example, which is the most

2377
02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:49,560
Speaker 2: watched daytime television show in America or close up there,

2378
02:16:49,560 --> 02:16:52,640
Speaker 2: at least amongst the women demographic, then you have people

2379
02:16:52,720 --> 02:16:56,400
Speaker 2: like Joy Behart and Whoope Goldberg make the claim that

2380
02:16:57,120 --> 02:17:03,080
Speaker 2: we need to be cautious of this Christian movement in America,

2381
02:17:03,160 --> 02:17:08,520
Speaker 2: that Christianity creates radicals, or that Christo nationalism is a

2382
02:17:08,600 --> 02:17:15,120
Speaker 2: dangerous political philosophy, and that really Christianity is more or

2383
02:17:15,240 --> 02:17:21,439
Speaker 2: less fantasy. It's not rooted in anything real. The Bible's

2384
02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:25,920
Speaker 2: not real, Jesus Christ is not really God, God isn't real.

2385
02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:32,840
Speaker 2: There's a significant thread of secular humanism and scientism in

2386
02:17:32,920 --> 02:17:36,960
Speaker 2: the Democrat Party and because of it, there is a

2387
02:17:37,080 --> 02:17:41,359
Speaker 2: very strong cultural sentiment in the Democrat party and platform

2388
02:17:41,640 --> 02:17:45,600
Speaker 2: that Christianity has become a danger to American culture, which

2389
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Speaker 2: is why prayer in schools or you know, football coaches

2390
02:17:50,840 --> 02:17:54,279
Speaker 2: baptizing their players is regarded as fascism.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean separation of church and state. I think

2392
02:17:56,360 --> 02:17:59,320
Speaker 3: that's pretty solid. Sure, yeah, you can separate the church

2393
02:17:59,320 --> 02:18:02,520
Speaker 3: and state. That doesn't mean that there's not a utility

2394
02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:05,760
Speaker 3: or usefulness to prayer or common good values. See the

2395
02:18:06,320 --> 02:18:08,600
Speaker 3: gaff about well that's the difference between public schools and

2396
02:18:08,600 --> 02:18:12,080
Speaker 3: Catholic schools and Christian schools. Come on, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, so our money is good enough for God, but

2398
02:18:15,440 --> 02:18:16,520
Speaker 2: our schools aren't.

2399
02:18:18,440 --> 02:18:22,520
Speaker 3: There's still there's still the freedom to.

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02:18:22,480 --> 02:18:25,000
Speaker 2: Have it should be and it should be the freedom. Okay,

2401
02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:31,280
Speaker 2: A good example is this The transgender and lgbt Q

2402
02:18:31,879 --> 02:18:37,959
Speaker 2: ideology has become almost religious, religiously practiced and taught in

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02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:43,400
Speaker 2: the public schools. So why can you have teachers teach

2404
02:18:43,480 --> 02:18:48,280
Speaker 2: about lgbt Q, which is completely unscientific, but you can't

2405
02:18:48,280 --> 02:18:50,080
Speaker 2: have a teacher pray at the school.

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02:18:50,320 --> 02:18:52,680
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just saying that a lot of lgbt

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02:18:52,840 --> 02:18:56,640
Speaker 3: Q plus people would take like wide offense to what

2408
02:18:56,680 --> 02:18:59,680
Speaker 3: you just said. Why because of who they are and

2409
02:18:59,720 --> 02:19:00,640
Speaker 3: how perceived?

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02:19:00,720 --> 02:19:04,160
Speaker 2: But Christians wouldn't. I'm sorry, but Christians wouldn't. Why can't

2411
02:19:04,160 --> 02:19:06,800
Speaker 2: we pray in schools, but we can teach young men

2412
02:19:06,879 --> 02:19:11,480
Speaker 2: to transition to become young women. You regard one as

2413
02:19:11,480 --> 02:19:14,039
Speaker 2: a religion and one is not. What makes it a religion?

2414
02:19:15,600 --> 02:19:27,960
Speaker 2: What makes a religion or religion of organization? Organization, ritual, outfit, costuming, brigalia, documents, philosophy.

2415
02:19:28,080 --> 02:19:30,240
Speaker 3: But they're people who are openly gay and openly lesbian.

2416
02:19:30,320 --> 02:19:33,879
Speaker 3: Trump has been supportive of the lgbt communications campaigns in

2417
02:19:33,879 --> 02:19:36,440
Speaker 3: the past. I'm confused, like, what's the I don't.

2418
02:19:36,240 --> 02:19:38,880
Speaker 2: Get what's confusing the LGBTQ community.

2419
02:19:38,959 --> 02:19:41,480
Speaker 3: I don't think the philosophy is a difference between identity

2420
02:19:41,520 --> 02:19:42,680
Speaker 3: and religion.

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02:19:43,440 --> 02:19:43,720
Speaker 2: Is there?

2422
02:19:44,160 --> 02:19:49,640
Speaker 3: Okay? One religion can be identity by identity doesn't necessarily

2423
02:19:49,720 --> 02:19:50,480
Speaker 3: have to be religion.

2424
02:19:50,600 --> 02:19:54,720
Speaker 2: Oh really, not always really, But what if your identity

2425
02:19:54,720 --> 02:19:56,959
Speaker 2: has become religious? What if it's if it's what if

2426
02:19:57,000 --> 02:20:02,600
Speaker 2: your identity is religious in your practice, in practice.

2427
02:20:02,840 --> 02:20:06,200
Speaker 3: That's I mean, I believe though that's that that can

2428
02:20:06,280 --> 02:20:08,960
Speaker 3: be for each person into them to their own, but

2429
02:20:08,959 --> 02:20:11,400
Speaker 3: for sure. But when it's LGBTQ plus, I mean, that's

2430
02:20:11,440 --> 02:20:13,800
Speaker 3: a that's the way, that's a war view, that's the

2431
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:14,640
Speaker 3: way they see them.

2432
02:20:15,040 --> 02:20:16,879
Speaker 2: It's the same way that Christians have a right to

2433
02:20:17,160 --> 02:20:19,120
Speaker 2: view the world. We do. So if you're a published

2434
02:20:20,240 --> 02:20:23,880
Speaker 2: if you're a public school teacher and you decide, if

2435
02:20:23,920 --> 02:20:26,080
Speaker 2: you're a public school teacher and you decide to teach

2436
02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:30,240
Speaker 2: your class in world history or or whatever else English,

2437
02:20:30,480 --> 02:20:32,640
Speaker 2: and you decide to use the Bible or religion to

2438
02:20:32,680 --> 02:20:34,879
Speaker 2: do that, why is that seen as a problem. But

2439
02:20:34,920 --> 02:20:37,720
Speaker 2: it's not seen as a problem to use uh, you know,

2440
02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:44,080
Speaker 2: lgbt Q examples or whatever to teach about gender identity in.

2441
02:20:44,080 --> 02:20:46,560
Speaker 3: Terms of the Bible. Bit. All I can speak to

2442
02:20:46,720 --> 02:20:49,040
Speaker 3: is the separation of church and state aspect. That makes

2443
02:20:49,400 --> 02:20:51,959
Speaker 3: some sense to me, And I went to Catholic school

2444
02:20:51,959 --> 02:20:52,600
Speaker 3: when I was growing up.

2445
02:20:53,000 --> 02:20:56,520
Speaker 2: Only think of church. The separation of church and state

2446
02:20:56,640 --> 02:21:01,520
Speaker 2: is that the state can't have a mandated religion. Yeah,

2447
02:21:01,560 --> 02:21:04,440
Speaker 2: it does. Doesn't mean that your public school teachers can't

2448
02:21:04,480 --> 02:21:06,840
Speaker 2: teach the utility of Christianity.

2449
02:21:10,520 --> 02:21:12,600
Speaker 3: But they're not allowed to now, I mean that they shouldn't.

2450
02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:14,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they are allowed to now. President

2451
02:21:14,520 --> 02:21:18,320
Speaker 2: Trump made that legal again the federal level. Yeah, we

2452
02:21:18,360 --> 02:21:22,680
Speaker 2: got off track about Israel though. My point about Israel

2453
02:21:22,879 --> 02:21:27,520
Speaker 2: is this, but I think it's an important point you

2454
02:21:27,520 --> 02:21:31,360
Speaker 2: were asking me about, you know, Epstein and Israeli intelligence.

2455
02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:36,640
Speaker 2: I do think that Jeffrey Epstein was working with Israeli intelligence.

2456
02:21:37,720 --> 02:21:42,600
Speaker 2: I do think that there was a joint And you

2457
02:21:42,600 --> 02:21:43,480
Speaker 2: asked me to what end.

2458
02:21:43,760 --> 02:21:46,039
Speaker 3: I guess where's your source? I don't know. I've never

2459
02:21:46,040 --> 02:21:49,000
Speaker 3: seen this. I guess like specifically, Okay, well, I mean

2460
02:21:49,600 --> 02:21:52,600
Speaker 3: the mesade. I just haven't seen that, Like.

2461
02:21:52,959 --> 02:21:55,879
Speaker 2: You've never seen this is the connection between Epstein and

2462
02:21:55,920 --> 02:21:57,800
Speaker 2: Massad or Israeli intelligence.

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02:21:58,760 --> 02:22:01,480
Speaker 3: I guess I haven't study as much as you have

2464
02:22:01,560 --> 02:22:01,880
Speaker 3: on Well.

2465
02:22:02,040 --> 02:22:06,080
Speaker 2: His his his sidekick in crime, who may have in

2466
02:22:06,080 --> 02:22:08,080
Speaker 2: fact been the architect of the whole deal, or may

2467
02:22:08,120 --> 02:22:13,720
Speaker 2: have been his control instain. Maxwell's father, George Maxwell, was

2468
02:22:14,600 --> 02:22:17,879
Speaker 2: on the record of working with Israeli intelligence. So just

2469
02:22:17,920 --> 02:22:24,400
Speaker 2: even there, fundamentally he was an Israeli intelligence asset.

2470
02:22:25,920 --> 02:22:29,640
Speaker 3: So are you implicating the Israeli government for something specifically

2471
02:22:29,640 --> 02:22:30,680
Speaker 3: with Epstein? Is that No?

2472
02:22:30,760 --> 02:22:33,400
Speaker 2: I think that. Yeah. I think that the entire Epstein

2473
02:22:34,800 --> 02:22:39,279
Speaker 2: situation project, uh, you know, the entire.

2474
02:22:39,080 --> 02:22:42,240
Speaker 3: Epstein trafficking of young girls, et cetera.

2475
02:22:43,240 --> 02:22:45,440
Speaker 2: That Epstein was able to operate the way that he

2476
02:22:45,600 --> 02:22:49,080
Speaker 2: was with the help of intelligence agencies, and it probably

2477
02:22:49,360 --> 02:22:54,000
Speaker 2: it may have been a conjunction of agencies including uh Massade,

2478
02:22:54,040 --> 02:22:55,960
Speaker 2: but also the c I A and m I six

2479
02:22:56,040 --> 02:22:58,760
Speaker 2: as well or the Five Eyes more broadly. Maybe we

2480
02:22:58,840 --> 02:22:59,200
Speaker 2: don't know.

2481
02:23:00,080 --> 02:23:02,959
Speaker 3: But where's your sourcing to even conclude that.

2482
02:23:02,879 --> 02:23:04,480
Speaker 2: Well, I just say, I mean, just look at the

2483
02:23:04,520 --> 02:23:07,120
Speaker 2: history of Gislain Maxwell and her father. Her father was

2484
02:23:07,120 --> 02:23:08,279
Speaker 2: an intelligence asset.

2485
02:23:08,560 --> 02:23:10,720
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean they're like, does not proof?

2486
02:23:10,760 --> 02:23:14,160
Speaker 2: I guess that it does seem it does seem precarious

2487
02:23:14,360 --> 02:23:17,640
Speaker 2: that that Epstein was able to operate and deal with

2488
02:23:17,680 --> 02:23:20,200
Speaker 2: the level of individuals that he was with impunity for

2489
02:23:20,240 --> 02:23:20,959
Speaker 2: so long.

2490
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:23,480
Speaker 3: A suspicion lead to guilt.

2491
02:23:23,680 --> 02:23:25,640
Speaker 2: No, No, not at all. I'm not saying that there's

2492
02:23:25,840 --> 02:23:28,320
Speaker 2: that there's a hard proof. But like I said earlier

2493
02:23:28,320 --> 02:23:34,440
Speaker 2: about Edward Snowden, UH, sometimes it our intelligence community, our

2494
02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:36,480
Speaker 2: government has made it so that in order to find

2495
02:23:36,480 --> 02:23:40,640
Speaker 2: the evidence you need to prove the wrongdoing or corruption

2496
02:23:40,800 --> 02:23:43,760
Speaker 2: is actually made illegal. That's why Edward Snowden is not

2497
02:23:43,800 --> 02:23:48,199
Speaker 2: living in America today. The intelligence, the intelligent, the entail

2498
02:23:49,440 --> 02:23:54,279
Speaker 2: of our government surveilling us with the with the Patriot

2499
02:23:54,320 --> 02:23:57,720
Speaker 2: Act under the pretense of the Patriot Act was considered

2500
02:23:57,760 --> 02:24:03,000
Speaker 2: classified and national security the intelligence secrets, so to divulge

2501
02:24:03,040 --> 02:24:06,920
Speaker 2: them is considered treason. The same thing could be true

2502
02:24:06,959 --> 02:24:10,480
Speaker 2: if there's a joint operation uh to for for Epstein

2503
02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:16,760
Speaker 2: to black high blackmail highly influential figures on behalf of

2504
02:24:17,200 --> 02:24:19,480
Speaker 2: intelligence of the intelligence community, and or as a form

2505
02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:20,000
Speaker 2: of control.

2506
02:24:21,440 --> 02:24:22,640
Speaker 3: Let me know when you find our proof.

2507
02:24:22,879 --> 02:24:26,840
Speaker 2: Okay, well here here, let's let's prove this. Israel is

2508
02:24:26,879 --> 02:24:31,040
Speaker 2: a contentious issue, and for good reason, because much of

2509
02:24:31,080 --> 02:24:34,560
Speaker 2: Western society and much much of the Western world is

2510
02:24:34,640 --> 02:24:38,520
Speaker 2: rooted in UH, a philosophy and faith that was founded

2511
02:24:38,600 --> 02:24:42,240
Speaker 2: right there in Western Asia and Israel. UH and that's

2512
02:24:42,280 --> 02:24:46,240
Speaker 2: the what they call the Judeo Christian faith UH and

2513
02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:49,400
Speaker 2: value systems. So it makes sense that Israel is a

2514
02:24:49,440 --> 02:24:53,320
Speaker 2: contentious issue. I think there's something deeply dishonest happening with

2515
02:24:53,400 --> 02:24:57,080
Speaker 2: the way that Israel has discussed. Uh, and in politics

2516
02:24:57,080 --> 02:24:57,720
Speaker 2: and in culture.

2517
02:24:58,560 --> 02:25:03,800
Speaker 3: Remind me what a sect of Christianity are are you developed? Oh,

2518
02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:05,800
Speaker 3: you're a Catholic yep.

2519
02:25:06,120 --> 02:25:12,119
Speaker 2: Baptized, born and raised Catholic Church yep. So I do

2520
02:25:12,200 --> 02:25:15,480
Speaker 2: think that there's something deeply dishonest about the way Israel

2521
02:25:15,920 --> 02:25:19,199
Speaker 2: is discussed. Number One, it seems that you can't discuss

2522
02:25:19,240 --> 02:25:21,240
Speaker 2: it at all for some people. You can't ask any

2523
02:25:21,320 --> 02:25:24,960
Speaker 2: questions at all about our relationship with Israel, our agreement

2524
02:25:25,040 --> 02:25:28,600
Speaker 2: or partnership with Israel, or any criticism of the Israeli

2525
02:25:28,680 --> 02:25:33,960
Speaker 2: government or Israeli politicians, leaders like Bibing Nan Yahoo. That's

2526
02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:37,040
Speaker 2: just a non starter for American society, for our culture.

2527
02:25:37,160 --> 02:25:39,800
Speaker 3: Well, maybe clear, I haven't made any films or research

2528
02:25:39,879 --> 02:25:41,400
Speaker 3: it enough for me to feel like I can be

2529
02:25:41,440 --> 02:25:42,800
Speaker 3: an authority on Israel.

2530
02:25:43,160 --> 02:25:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you should start there, because America America is

2531
02:25:46,879 --> 02:25:51,400
Speaker 2: definitely deeply entrenched in a question about Israel and foreign policy.

2532
02:25:51,440 --> 02:25:54,119
Speaker 3: Now, which leads me to the question then about your constituents.

2533
02:25:54,640 --> 02:25:58,400
Speaker 3: How much do your constituents need to know about your

2534
02:25:58,879 --> 02:26:01,160
Speaker 3: concern about Israel, like, why is that important?

2535
02:26:01,280 --> 02:26:04,520
Speaker 2: Why is it important to your constituents. I don't know

2536
02:26:04,520 --> 02:26:08,480
Speaker 2: what's important my constituents. It's not really that. That's not

2537
02:26:08,520 --> 02:26:10,520
Speaker 2: a priority to me. My priority is to tell them

2538
02:26:10,520 --> 02:26:12,840
Speaker 2: what they need to know is important, you know what

2539
02:26:12,879 --> 02:26:15,680
Speaker 2: I mean? What they made, what they already think is

2540
02:26:15,720 --> 02:26:17,480
Speaker 2: important is one thing. But what they need to know

2541
02:26:17,560 --> 02:26:18,000
Speaker 2: is different.

2542
02:26:19,440 --> 02:26:22,080
Speaker 3: You want them to know or need.

2543
02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:27,040
Speaker 2: I need people to realize that. I need people to

2544
02:26:27,080 --> 02:26:30,720
Speaker 2: realize that Israel as a as a political topic here

2545
02:26:30,760 --> 02:26:33,440
Speaker 2: in this country and maybe all around the world, is

2546
02:26:33,520 --> 02:26:37,280
Speaker 2: being used as a way to control the conversation on

2547
02:26:37,360 --> 02:26:41,000
Speaker 2: both sides of the aisle. Is being used to UH,

2548
02:26:41,120 --> 02:26:45,080
Speaker 2: sensor and cancel, and make and stifle people asking questions

2549
02:26:45,120 --> 02:26:47,840
Speaker 2: about other issues that don't necessarily even involve Israel, like

2550
02:26:47,879 --> 02:26:51,720
Speaker 2: our foreign policy, our foreign policy of America first isn't

2551
02:26:51,879 --> 02:26:55,119
Speaker 2: really about Israel. But yet if you follow the trail

2552
02:26:55,400 --> 02:26:58,680
Speaker 2: of America first foreign policy far enough, you end up

2553
02:26:58,680 --> 02:27:02,280
Speaker 2: at a question about what will do in regards to Israel,

2554
02:27:02,400 --> 02:27:05,640
Speaker 2: And so in that way, Israel becomes this, you know, this,

2555
02:27:05,640 --> 02:27:11,080
Speaker 2: this revolving door of stifling the conversation in one direction

2556
02:27:11,240 --> 02:27:14,400
Speaker 2: or another. UH and in that way. It's duplicitous and dishonest.

2557
02:27:14,400 --> 02:27:16,360
Speaker 2: It's just like the Jewish identity, which is just like

2558
02:27:16,400 --> 02:27:19,040
Speaker 2: the black identity. Like you can't you know. I was

2559
02:27:19,080 --> 02:27:21,000
Speaker 2: talking to a Jewish man the other day at the

2560
02:27:21,000 --> 02:27:25,800
Speaker 2: Republican State Central Committee and he said, uh, you know,

2561
02:27:25,879 --> 02:27:29,880
Speaker 2: you're you're saying some things that are parallel to Nick

2562
02:27:29,920 --> 02:27:33,120
Speaker 2: fuentt As in the Groper movement. And my response to

2563
02:27:33,200 --> 02:27:35,600
Speaker 2: him was, well, what does the Jewish community plan to

2564
02:27:35,600 --> 02:27:39,440
Speaker 2: do about Nick fuentt As in the Groper movement? What? What?

2565
02:27:39,440 --> 02:27:41,560
Speaker 2: What is the plan? What is the strategy? Is your

2566
02:27:41,560 --> 02:27:43,959
Speaker 2: strategy just to call them all anti Semitic and say

2567
02:27:43,959 --> 02:27:48,800
Speaker 2: they're ridiculous and write them off as as not not,

2568
02:27:48,800 --> 02:27:51,000
Speaker 2: not something to contend with, because if you do that,

2569
02:27:51,280 --> 02:27:54,560
Speaker 2: you're making the same mistake that that that many people

2570
02:27:54,640 --> 02:27:56,760
Speaker 2: made about President Trump and the Maga movement not too

2571
02:27:56,760 --> 02:28:02,280
Speaker 2: long ago, just to write it off as ridiculous. Okay,

2572
02:28:03,080 --> 02:28:05,640
Speaker 2: what do you suggest? My suggestion is to listen to

2573
02:28:05,680 --> 02:28:07,480
Speaker 2: the things that they're saying and be able to parse

2574
02:28:07,480 --> 02:28:09,560
Speaker 2: out what's true and what's not. How do you know

2575
02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:15,360
Speaker 2: what's true with that discernment and historical fact. Yeah, there's

2576
02:28:15,400 --> 02:28:17,160
Speaker 2: a lot of ways to you know, there's a lot

2577
02:28:17,160 --> 02:28:22,440
Speaker 2: of there's epistemological ways to decipher truth, what is and

2578
02:28:22,480 --> 02:28:22,920
Speaker 2: what isn't.

2579
02:28:22,920 --> 02:28:24,800
Speaker 3: But I'm a classic reporting guy.

2580
02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:28,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean, you know, here's what I think

2581
02:28:28,160 --> 02:28:34,560
Speaker 2: about again, the term the Jewish identity. It's used in

2582
02:28:34,560 --> 02:28:37,160
Speaker 2: the same way the black identity has used, and you

2583
02:28:37,160 --> 02:28:40,120
Speaker 2: can't even say certain things like I was outside of

2584
02:28:40,160 --> 02:28:42,480
Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve. This guy took exception to me saying

2585
02:28:42,520 --> 02:28:45,959
Speaker 2: that there were Jewish elites that ran the FED, and

2586
02:28:46,040 --> 02:28:50,160
Speaker 2: there were publicly admitted Jewish elites that have recently run

2587
02:28:50,200 --> 02:28:53,360
Speaker 2: the FED, Janet Yellen, been BERNANKI, a couple of others.

2588
02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:58,920
Speaker 3: So that person being offended was he shouldn't have fell offended.

2589
02:28:59,640 --> 02:29:04,560
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's part of a bigger cultural cultural

2590
02:29:06,160 --> 02:29:10,120
Speaker 2: crisis of identity politics being used in a bait and

2591
02:29:10,120 --> 02:29:14,320
Speaker 2: switch to stifle conversation about necessary issues in this In

2592
02:29:14,360 --> 02:29:20,200
Speaker 2: this case is reel our foreign policy. Jewish a sort

2593
02:29:20,240 --> 02:29:24,320
Speaker 2: of Jewish protected class where you can't criticize anything that

2594
02:29:24,400 --> 02:29:26,959
Speaker 2: Jewish people do or even mention anything Jewish people do

2595
02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:29,800
Speaker 2: as a community. Same thing I said about the Somali community.

2596
02:29:30,080 --> 02:29:33,320
Speaker 2: If a Somali man robs a bank, I can say

2597
02:29:33,360 --> 02:29:36,240
Speaker 2: he was a Somali man. If a black man robs

2598
02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:38,320
Speaker 2: a bank, you can say he was a black man.

2599
02:29:38,040 --> 02:29:40,160
Speaker 2: But if a Jewish man robs a bank, you can

2600
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:42,520
Speaker 2: say he was a Jewish man. But you can't. Well,

2601
02:29:42,920 --> 02:29:44,520
Speaker 2: you can say a black man or a Somali man,

2602
02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:45,640
Speaker 2: but you can't say he was Jewish.

2603
02:29:45,680 --> 02:29:48,880
Speaker 3: But I think there's a difference between saying a smalie

2604
02:29:48,879 --> 02:29:51,600
Speaker 3: person stole and then paint the whole broad brushes in

2605
02:29:51,720 --> 02:29:53,200
Speaker 3: small people aren't garbage, I.

2606
02:29:53,240 --> 02:29:54,760
Speaker 2: Mean none, No, that's not what I'm saying.

2607
02:29:55,560 --> 02:29:56,160
Speaker 3: There's a difference.

2608
02:29:56,440 --> 02:29:59,120
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is that you can't say that a

2609
02:29:59,120 --> 02:30:01,800
Speaker 2: few Jewish Elits ran the FED because to say there

2610
02:30:01,800 --> 02:30:05,720
Speaker 2: are Jewish elites is supposedly a dog whistle to an

2611
02:30:05,720 --> 02:30:10,600
Speaker 2: anti Semitic trope. Then that's just a non starter. There

2612
02:30:10,640 --> 02:30:13,120
Speaker 2: are Jewish elites in this country, there are Jewish elites

2613
02:30:13,160 --> 02:30:17,160
Speaker 2: in the world. There is a Jewish lobby. There are

2614
02:30:17,320 --> 02:30:21,360
Speaker 2: Jewish people who are not loyal to this country. Hell,

2615
02:30:21,400 --> 02:30:24,480
Speaker 2: there are Jewish people who aren't really even loyal to Israel,

2616
02:30:24,560 --> 02:30:29,000
Speaker 2: depending on how you look at their political actions and participation.

2617
02:30:29,680 --> 02:30:32,080
Speaker 2: There are Jewish people who are loyal to nothing but themselves,

2618
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:35,760
Speaker 2: same as any other race of people on the face

2619
02:30:35,760 --> 02:30:37,640
Speaker 2: of the planet. But for some reason, if you say

2620
02:30:37,640 --> 02:30:41,400
Speaker 2: it about Jewish people, then you're automatically anti Semitic. And

2621
02:30:41,440 --> 02:30:43,480
Speaker 2: that's what they're throwing on Marjorie Taylor Green, or they

2622
02:30:43,480 --> 02:30:45,320
Speaker 2: have thrown on Marjori Taylor Green. They've thrown it on

2623
02:30:45,360 --> 02:30:48,320
Speaker 2: President Trump at times recently, they've thrown it on Steve

2624
02:30:48,360 --> 02:30:50,920
Speaker 2: Bannon and others of the War Room posse. They've thrown

2625
02:30:50,959 --> 02:30:54,280
Speaker 2: it on me as much as they possibly could. And

2626
02:30:54,320 --> 02:30:56,760
Speaker 2: it's created a rift in the Republican Party and in

2627
02:30:56,800 --> 02:30:59,440
Speaker 2: the Conservative movement because such a big piece of the

2628
02:30:59,440 --> 02:31:04,360
Speaker 2: Republican Party or the Conservative base are evangelical Christians who

2629
02:31:04,440 --> 02:31:07,600
Speaker 2: carry the same sort of belief about the you know,

2630
02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:16,080
Speaker 2: the Israel conversation. And I think that it's just completely dishonest.

2631
02:31:17,600 --> 02:31:20,400
Speaker 2: There are black elites. If I say Barack Obama is

2632
02:31:20,400 --> 02:31:25,119
Speaker 2: a black elite, he is. And it's funny we talk

2633
02:31:25,160 --> 02:31:27,440
Speaker 2: in the black community, we talk about black excellence the

2634
02:31:27,440 --> 02:31:29,360
Speaker 2: same way I said about a few other communities. But

2635
02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:32,800
Speaker 2: we hold up our identity when we talk about our success.

2636
02:31:33,360 --> 02:31:35,680
Speaker 2: But if we talk about the failures of an identity

2637
02:31:35,760 --> 02:31:38,120
Speaker 2: or a demographic or a race of people all of

2638
02:31:38,120 --> 02:31:42,440
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's racism or anti Semitism. The Jewish people

2639
02:31:42,560 --> 02:31:46,760
Speaker 2: in this country have failed to stand up in the

2640
02:31:46,800 --> 02:31:52,320
Speaker 2: conversation about the history of the Jewish people Israel and

2641
02:31:52,400 --> 02:31:56,560
Speaker 2: the current political let's say correctness in a way that's honest.

2642
02:31:56,840 --> 02:31:59,840
Speaker 2: And because of that they are responsible for the rise

2643
02:32:00,280 --> 02:32:03,200
Speaker 2: of the Nick flint as in Groper movement. But Nick

2644
02:32:03,240 --> 02:32:05,680
Speaker 2: flentteses of the world wouldn't be able to point out

2645
02:32:05,680 --> 02:32:09,560
Speaker 2: the contradictions that he can had it not been a

2646
02:32:09,600 --> 02:32:12,760
Speaker 2: bunch of Jewish people in this country refuse to stand

2647
02:32:12,800 --> 02:32:16,480
Speaker 2: up and say, don't use my identity that way, don't

2648
02:32:16,480 --> 02:32:19,560
Speaker 2: play fast and loose with my Jewish identity to perpetuate

2649
02:32:19,640 --> 02:32:22,160
Speaker 2: forever wars in the Middle East, or to stifle a

2650
02:32:22,200 --> 02:32:26,320
Speaker 2: conversation about the influence of political lobbies like let's say

2651
02:32:26,360 --> 02:32:30,360
Speaker 2: Apak in American politics. And every time a Jewish person

2652
02:32:30,400 --> 02:32:32,959
Speaker 2: fails to a Jewish person fails to do that, they

2653
02:32:32,959 --> 02:32:37,200
Speaker 2: are adding ammunition. They are they are lending ammunition to

2654
02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:40,400
Speaker 2: Nick flint as in the Graper movement. And it doesn't

2655
02:32:40,400 --> 02:32:42,440
Speaker 2: seem that they that they plan to stop from my

2656
02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:45,880
Speaker 2: interaction with this gentleman and the way that the media

2657
02:32:45,920 --> 02:32:50,879
Speaker 2: has this Jewish gentleman at this Republican convention. Yeah. And

2658
02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:54,080
Speaker 2: the way that the media has covered my comments in

2659
02:32:54,440 --> 02:32:57,480
Speaker 2: general and has continued to cover comments about Israel in general,

2660
02:32:58,480 --> 02:33:00,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't appear that that's slowing down, and it is

2661
02:33:00,840 --> 02:33:04,480
Speaker 2: going to become it's becoming a dividing line for the midterms, right,

2662
02:33:04,520 --> 02:33:10,720
Speaker 2: because you see now an alliance growing where Marjorie Taylor

2663
02:33:10,760 --> 02:33:14,280
Speaker 2: Green in an Ana Kasparian, one of the more socialist,

2664
02:33:14,280 --> 02:33:20,280
Speaker 2: populist or far left activists in the political commentary world,

2665
02:33:20,640 --> 02:33:24,520
Speaker 2: are find an agreement on Israel. Now, do I see

2666
02:33:24,560 --> 02:33:28,480
Speaker 2: their agreement as one hundred genuine No? And I do

2667
02:33:28,520 --> 02:33:30,600
Speaker 2: think that there is a movement on the left in

2668
02:33:30,640 --> 02:33:34,879
Speaker 2: American politics that seeks to undermine the legitimacy of Israel

2669
02:33:34,920 --> 02:33:37,680
Speaker 2: as a nation so they can make the same claim

2670
02:33:37,680 --> 02:33:39,560
Speaker 2: about America as a nation. And there is a group

2671
02:33:39,560 --> 02:33:42,080
Speaker 2: of people on the left that say Israel is not

2672
02:33:42,200 --> 02:33:47,280
Speaker 2: legitimate as a nation because any nation that stands upon

2673
02:33:47,360 --> 02:33:52,600
Speaker 2: stolen land is illegitimate, and that without America's help, Israel

2674
02:33:52,640 --> 02:33:57,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been able to secure their current land. They

2675
02:33:57,400 --> 02:33:59,960
Speaker 2: make the same claim about America that America sits upon

2676
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:02,280
Speaker 2: on stolen land, so therefore it's not a legitimate nation.

2677
02:34:04,600 --> 02:34:08,720
Speaker 2: It's not lost on me that a person like George Soros,

2678
02:34:09,600 --> 02:34:15,040
Speaker 2: who has a political organization that promotes open borders or

2679
02:34:15,120 --> 02:34:21,640
Speaker 2: borderless society, would fund candidates or political propaganda that suggests

2680
02:34:22,600 --> 02:34:25,960
Speaker 2: that no nation that's ever been conquered is a legitimate nation,

2681
02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:29,240
Speaker 2: because all nations have been conquered. If you make the

2682
02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:32,520
Speaker 2: claim that no nation that's ever been conquered or rest

2683
02:34:32,600 --> 02:34:35,680
Speaker 2: upon stolen land, conquered land un as you conquered land

2684
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:38,680
Speaker 2: stolen from you. If you make that claim, there is

2685
02:34:38,720 --> 02:34:42,240
Speaker 2: no legitimatenation on this planet. What nation hasn't been conquered

2686
02:34:42,240 --> 02:34:48,720
Speaker 2: that's of any value, any resource, any strategic, geopolitical location.

2687
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:50,080
Speaker 3: Power has always existed.

2688
02:34:50,240 --> 02:34:52,879
Speaker 2: There you go, okay, So if we're going to say

2689
02:34:52,920 --> 02:34:57,959
Speaker 2: that power categorically delegitimizes all nations, it becomes pretty clear

2690
02:34:58,000 --> 02:34:58,920
Speaker 2: what the agenda is.

2691
02:34:59,560 --> 02:35:05,440
Speaker 3: So weird is Israel sitting your position is kenedf you

2692
02:35:05,440 --> 02:35:06,640
Speaker 3: are Senate in Minnesota.

2693
02:35:08,920 --> 02:35:13,400
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's uh. I think it's unbelievable.

2694
02:35:13,480 --> 02:35:21,120
Speaker 2: How gum dipped the Republican Party is about Israel? You

2695
02:35:21,120 --> 02:35:28,280
Speaker 2: know they're brainwashed. Yeah, they are in blind support of

2696
02:35:28,360 --> 02:35:31,119
Speaker 2: Israel because of an evangelical Christian philosophy.

2697
02:35:31,560 --> 02:35:31,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

2698
02:35:31,959 --> 02:35:35,160
Speaker 2: And it has made it almost impossible for a decent

2699
02:35:35,280 --> 02:35:39,640
Speaker 2: number of them to ask any basic questions like, Hey,

2700
02:35:39,840 --> 02:35:42,760
Speaker 2: is Israel's government doing the right thing? Is bb net

2701
02:35:42,760 --> 02:35:45,560
Speaker 2: and Yahoo a good leader? Is their corruption in Israel?

2702
02:35:45,640 --> 02:35:49,080
Speaker 2: If there's corruption, what should America do it with about it?

2703
02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:50,840
Speaker 2: And what role should we play or what kind of

2704
02:35:51,080 --> 02:35:52,520
Speaker 2: how that affect our partnership?

2705
02:35:53,640 --> 02:35:53,800
Speaker 3: Uh?

2706
02:35:53,879 --> 02:35:55,959
Speaker 2: We we we are having trouble a crisis with that

2707
02:35:56,040 --> 02:35:59,080
Speaker 2: in the Republican Party. Uh. And then in the Conservative movement,

2708
02:35:59,120 --> 02:36:01,360
Speaker 2: and that is where out of the Civil War we

2709
02:36:01,440 --> 02:36:04,160
Speaker 2: first you know, you were first discussing or the kind

2710
02:36:04,200 --> 02:36:07,560
Speaker 2: of fighting inside the Republican Party stems from really a

2711
02:36:07,560 --> 02:36:09,680
Speaker 2: lot of it stems from this question about Israel.

2712
02:36:09,760 --> 02:36:15,840
Speaker 3: Interesting, I chuckle a little bit because I'm in awe

2713
02:36:15,879 --> 02:36:20,480
Speaker 3: of the conversation we're having. Because when I got to

2714
02:36:20,480 --> 02:36:22,960
Speaker 3: sit down with you in twenty twenty and we were

2715
02:36:22,959 --> 02:36:28,440
Speaker 3: talking about police brutality and the distrust and the States

2716
02:36:28,480 --> 02:36:29,160
Speaker 3: and the government.

2717
02:36:29,440 --> 02:36:31,080
Speaker 2: Yes, and.

2718
02:36:33,360 --> 02:36:36,520
Speaker 3: It was just a very different conversation at least in

2719
02:36:36,520 --> 02:36:39,960
Speaker 3: the scope than it is to now. So so much

2720
02:36:40,160 --> 02:36:42,800
Speaker 3: between now and then.

2721
02:36:42,680 --> 02:36:45,840
Speaker 2: It was, but it wasn't. It's the same thing. It's

2722
02:36:45,879 --> 02:36:50,080
Speaker 2: a lot of parallel. It sounds like the magnitude tell yeah, well,

2723
02:36:50,560 --> 02:36:52,560
Speaker 2: you know, at the time, we were talking about something

2724
02:36:52,600 --> 02:36:54,320
Speaker 2: that was going on immediately in the city. And I

2725
02:36:54,360 --> 02:36:59,240
Speaker 2: do believe that the you know, the concept of government

2726
02:37:00,600 --> 02:37:05,080
Speaker 2: and citizen is a pretty broad scope idea. I mean,

2727
02:37:05,160 --> 02:37:10,600
Speaker 2: that's that's not you know, that's not crumbs political crumbs.

2728
02:37:11,760 --> 02:37:14,560
Speaker 2: We all, as citizens should should be in constant assessment

2729
02:37:14,640 --> 02:37:17,840
Speaker 2: of our role as citizens and the scope of government authority,

2730
02:37:18,520 --> 02:37:21,320
Speaker 2: the scope of the state. Absolutely, and I still believe that,

2731
02:37:21,360 --> 02:37:24,760
Speaker 2: And I still believe the sovereignty of the citizen, the

2732
02:37:25,000 --> 02:37:28,000
Speaker 2: ability of self govern in this country is in jeopardy.

2733
02:37:28,040 --> 02:37:30,720
Speaker 2: And I do fear the rise of a police state,

2734
02:37:31,240 --> 02:37:34,360
Speaker 2: regardless of what political party is in power. And I

2735
02:37:34,400 --> 02:37:38,240
Speaker 2: do fear the rise of totalitarianism in America or what

2736
02:37:38,280 --> 02:37:43,320
Speaker 2: you would call, you know, the pretext for martial law.

2737
02:37:43,480 --> 02:37:46,000
Speaker 3: And what do you say to the people who, especially

2738
02:37:46,000 --> 02:37:49,440
Speaker 3: those of whom I'm just looking at the interviews of

2739
02:37:49,840 --> 02:37:55,480
Speaker 3: small American citizens who detained recently Minnesota. Yes, in fear

2740
02:37:55,520 --> 02:37:58,519
Speaker 3: of a totalitarian regime brought up by this current administration.

2741
02:37:58,920 --> 02:38:00,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't brought on by the administration.

2742
02:38:01,360 --> 02:38:03,640
Speaker 3: Okay, so there is concerns.

2743
02:38:03,240 --> 02:38:08,800
Speaker 5: Of of state state ice overreach. Well, let's let's be

2744
02:38:08,840 --> 02:38:11,640
Speaker 5: clear about that, because that's not that's not That's an

2745
02:38:11,640 --> 02:38:15,280
Speaker 5: important point is it wasn't brought on by this administration,

2746
02:38:16,680 --> 02:38:18,200
Speaker 5: if if, if there was a if.

2747
02:38:18,160 --> 02:38:21,879
Speaker 3: There, let me be let me be more specific though

2748
02:38:21,920 --> 02:38:26,160
Speaker 3: like it quite clearly, there have been American citizens been

2749
02:38:26,160 --> 02:38:29,560
Speaker 3: wrawfully detained for being accused of being I llegual right

2750
02:38:29,600 --> 02:38:32,560
Speaker 3: and they're not so, So how is that different from

2751
02:38:32,800 --> 02:38:36,400
Speaker 3: citing government overreach the libertarian standpoint.

2752
02:38:36,120 --> 02:38:41,840
Speaker 2: The circumstances with which there's a necessity for federal intervention

2753
02:38:42,879 --> 02:38:45,800
Speaker 2: for illegal immigration was not brought on by this administration.

2754
02:38:45,920 --> 02:38:48,840
Speaker 2: It was left to this administration. So the the the

2755
02:38:49,680 --> 02:38:53,480
Speaker 2: responsibility of what we're dealing with now actually has to

2756
02:38:53,520 --> 02:38:56,720
Speaker 2: go back to the Biden administration and how many illegal

2757
02:38:56,720 --> 02:38:59,400
Speaker 2: immigrants were let into the country under his under his watch.

2758
02:38:59,400 --> 02:39:01,480
Speaker 3: Do you find it necessary for the federal government to

2759
02:39:02,640 --> 02:39:04,840
Speaker 3: overreached on the citizenry of people?

2760
02:39:04,959 --> 02:39:06,520
Speaker 2: No, I don't find it. I don't look at it

2761
02:39:06,520 --> 02:39:10,360
Speaker 2: as overreached. It's it's power for the situation, and that

2762
02:39:10,520 --> 02:39:14,480
Speaker 2: is unfortunate and it's a failure of the citizens. That's

2763
02:39:14,520 --> 02:39:16,600
Speaker 2: where we don't. We don't, we don't really.

2764
02:39:16,640 --> 02:39:17,960
Speaker 3: You're saying it's a citizen's fault.

2765
02:39:18,160 --> 02:39:24,000
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, how yeah?

2766
02:39:24,040 --> 02:39:26,600
Speaker 3: Why is it the citizens your sovereign Why is it

2767
02:39:26,600 --> 02:39:30,560
Speaker 3: the citiszans fault of the government is arresting you unlawful

2768
02:39:30,560 --> 02:39:31,199
Speaker 3: when you get.

2769
02:39:31,000 --> 02:39:33,480
Speaker 2: The government you deserve, and by God we all will

2770
02:39:33,560 --> 02:39:37,560
Speaker 2: if if sovereign citizens collectively don't hold their politicians to

2771
02:39:37,640 --> 02:39:41,480
Speaker 2: a standard that allows for a government to maintain its

2772
02:39:41,520 --> 02:39:46,240
Speaker 2: credibility and its integrity and its basic function, then the

2773
02:39:46,320 --> 02:39:49,320
Speaker 2: results of that, when a government becomes tyrannical and overreaches,

2774
02:39:49,440 --> 02:39:51,720
Speaker 2: ultimately falls back on the citizens. This is what I

2775
02:39:51,760 --> 02:39:54,120
Speaker 2: was saying back in twenty twenty. This is why march

2776
02:39:54,200 --> 02:39:57,520
Speaker 2: people to the Federal Reserve instead of the first police precinct.

2777
02:39:57,560 --> 02:39:58,120
Speaker 2: And you were there?

2778
02:39:58,240 --> 02:39:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2779
02:39:58,520 --> 02:40:00,880
Speaker 2: How many times did we walk past the police precist?

2780
02:40:00,920 --> 02:40:01,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2781
02:40:01,120 --> 02:40:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember every time. Did we ever stop at

2782
02:40:03,400 --> 02:40:06,320
Speaker 2: the first precist? I don't think, No, we did not.

2783
02:40:06,640 --> 02:40:09,200
Speaker 2: We stopped at the federal reserve though, didn't we? Right?

2784
02:40:09,280 --> 02:40:11,879
Speaker 2: Because in the in the wake of a rise of

2785
02:40:11,959 --> 02:40:18,039
Speaker 2: radical materialism and bad economic and monetary policy, inflationary culture,

2786
02:40:19,040 --> 02:40:23,640
Speaker 2: we have given over too much governance to the very

2787
02:40:23,680 --> 02:40:25,920
Speaker 2: system we say is guilty. And when you do that

2788
02:40:26,600 --> 02:40:29,600
Speaker 2: and your politicians decide to let in fifteen million citizens,

2789
02:40:29,920 --> 02:40:31,400
Speaker 2: you're telling them they have to clean it up in

2790
02:40:31,440 --> 02:40:33,480
Speaker 2: a way that's going to transgress your rights. And I

2791
02:40:33,520 --> 02:40:37,360
Speaker 2: think people crave tyranny. That the dark part. Oh yeah, see, yeah,

2792
02:40:37,440 --> 02:40:41,640
Speaker 2: let's go there. Oh, I see you looking kind of

2793
02:40:42,280 --> 02:40:43,280
Speaker 2: What do you mean, Well, I have a.

2794
02:40:43,280 --> 02:40:45,480
Speaker 3: Vote, like I want to. I don't want to tire

2795
02:40:45,520 --> 02:40:48,760
Speaker 3: in taking over my life. So you say I'm saying

2796
02:40:48,760 --> 02:40:49,320
Speaker 3: that right now.

2797
02:40:49,680 --> 02:40:51,680
Speaker 2: I know you're saying that, but I'm making a comment

2798
02:40:51,680 --> 02:40:54,400
Speaker 2: about American culture. And this is what I'm saying.

2799
02:40:55,000 --> 02:40:57,039
Speaker 3: One point to button up the thing that you just said.

2800
02:40:57,640 --> 02:41:00,800
Speaker 3: People find I find that the people.

2801
02:41:00,879 --> 02:41:05,879
Speaker 2: Who freedom is across the breath of human history, across

2802
02:41:05,920 --> 02:41:08,760
Speaker 2: the entirety of human history, the eternal house of history.

2803
02:41:09,320 --> 02:41:14,320
Speaker 2: Freedom is a luxury. Freedom is a luxury. Sure, it's

2804
02:41:14,360 --> 02:41:16,720
Speaker 2: a desire, it's an aspiration, it's a hope, it's a

2805
02:41:16,720 --> 02:41:20,680
Speaker 2: founding belief of our American of our American values. But

2806
02:41:20,760 --> 02:41:28,080
Speaker 2: it's a luxury throughout history, and people crave convenience. On

2807
02:41:28,120 --> 02:41:30,520
Speaker 2: my show on Saturday Mornings, I always in the intro,

2808
02:41:30,680 --> 02:41:34,600
Speaker 2: I say convenience will be the death of freedom. People

2809
02:41:34,640 --> 02:41:38,760
Speaker 2: crave convenience. And although tyranny can manifest in harsh ways

2810
02:41:39,200 --> 02:41:44,480
Speaker 2: and be scary and be uncertain, tyranny ultimately does abnegate

2811
02:41:44,480 --> 02:41:47,920
Speaker 2: the responsibility of the citizen. So in that way, even

2812
02:41:47,959 --> 02:41:54,320
Speaker 2: tyranny can become a modality of convenience. It's convenient to

2813
02:41:54,360 --> 02:41:57,080
Speaker 2: give my freedom to a tyrannical state. And if you

2814
02:41:57,120 --> 02:42:00,800
Speaker 2: look at the trajectory of American society and culture, everything

2815
02:42:00,840 --> 02:42:03,240
Speaker 2: that we do and the way that we participate in

2816
02:42:03,280 --> 02:42:05,680
Speaker 2: the way we've sold out to special interests in lobbies

2817
02:42:05,720 --> 02:42:08,880
Speaker 2: and politicians who lie to us. Everything we do suggests

2818
02:42:09,240 --> 02:42:12,440
Speaker 2: that we talk about freedom, but we deeply craved tyranny.

2819
02:42:12,520 --> 02:42:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but clearly that's convenient for whom like.

2820
02:42:16,000 --> 02:42:18,200
Speaker 2: Well, that is the question, sir Well, I mean, it

2821
02:42:18,320 --> 02:42:19,080
Speaker 2: is it convenient for.

2822
02:42:19,200 --> 02:42:22,440
Speaker 3: Well, obviously, the Somali American citizen who got detained rawfully,

2823
02:42:22,879 --> 02:42:23,880
Speaker 3: it's not convenient for him.

2824
02:42:24,320 --> 02:42:26,199
Speaker 2: It's convenient for the Somali community as.

2825
02:42:26,120 --> 02:42:30,200
Speaker 3: A whole, for him to be detained unlawfully.

2826
02:42:29,600 --> 02:42:31,600
Speaker 2: For the government to be bigger than it's supposed to

2827
02:42:31,640 --> 02:42:34,440
Speaker 2: be because they accept the subsidies you don't get one

2828
02:42:34,480 --> 02:42:38,720
Speaker 2: without the other. It's the same as the black community.

2829
02:42:38,800 --> 02:42:41,520
Speaker 2: The same people who said the entire system is guilty

2830
02:42:41,560 --> 02:42:46,240
Speaker 2: when George Floyd died somehow believe that the infinite expansion

2831
02:42:46,280 --> 02:42:49,200
Speaker 2: of the federal government through federal programs and subsidies is

2832
02:42:49,200 --> 02:42:53,760
Speaker 2: going to shrink the power of that system. Now you

2833
02:42:53,800 --> 02:42:56,360
Speaker 2: tell me how that squares. If I say the whole

2834
02:42:56,360 --> 02:43:01,040
Speaker 2: system is guilty and inherently white supremacist, then why would

2835
02:43:01,080 --> 02:43:04,279
Speaker 2: I give that same system more money and more power?

2836
02:43:04,720 --> 02:43:06,720
Speaker 2: So what do you tell I'll tell you why I'll

2837
02:43:06,760 --> 02:43:08,760
Speaker 2: give them more money and more power if I think

2838
02:43:08,800 --> 02:43:09,680
Speaker 2: it benefits me.

2839
02:43:10,280 --> 02:43:11,440
Speaker 3: What do you propose that as a use?

2840
02:43:11,640 --> 02:43:14,879
Speaker 2: If I think the social welfare programs and the and

2841
02:43:14,920 --> 02:43:18,000
Speaker 2: the you know, the the grift about roads and hospitals

2842
02:43:18,040 --> 02:43:21,800
Speaker 2: and infrastructure, or the expansion of the military industrial complex

2843
02:43:21,840 --> 02:43:24,680
Speaker 2: and our power around the world, or even the US

2844
02:43:24,800 --> 02:43:28,039
Speaker 2: dollar as our number one export, the economic and monetary

2845
02:43:28,080 --> 02:43:31,160
Speaker 2: system itself. If I think that the net aggregate of

2846
02:43:31,200 --> 02:43:33,400
Speaker 2: all those things is a is a benefit to me,

2847
02:43:33,920 --> 02:43:36,039
Speaker 2: then the government can have as much power as they want.

2848
02:43:36,360 --> 02:43:39,560
Speaker 2: And I'll vote for any politician who's willing to puppet

2849
02:43:39,600 --> 02:43:42,039
Speaker 2: the propaganda and tell me what I want to hear

2850
02:43:42,120 --> 02:43:44,320
Speaker 2: versus what I need to hear. And in that way,

2851
02:43:44,640 --> 02:43:49,200
Speaker 2: American society has become a nation full of cooks. We

2852
02:43:49,280 --> 02:43:53,120
Speaker 2: love our government fucking us. We love getting fucked over.

2853
02:43:53,200 --> 02:43:56,800
Speaker 2: We complain about it. We we we you know, we

2854
02:43:56,800 --> 02:44:00,280
Speaker 2: we have opinions about it on social media. But deep down,

2855
02:44:00,320 --> 02:44:03,800
Speaker 2: if you look at the net result of how we participated, citizens,

2856
02:44:04,080 --> 02:44:07,280
Speaker 2: we love getting fucked by our government and our politicians.

2857
02:44:07,560 --> 02:44:10,920
Speaker 2: We all it seems like we almost crave it because

2858
02:44:10,959 --> 02:44:12,720
Speaker 2: we talk about it, but we're not willing to get

2859
02:44:12,720 --> 02:44:14,680
Speaker 2: involved and do the work. We're not willing to call

2860
02:44:14,760 --> 02:44:17,600
Speaker 2: fout where it really needs to be. The Somali community

2861
02:44:17,640 --> 02:44:21,680
Speaker 2: has to acknowledge if we're going to give the American

2862
02:44:21,760 --> 02:44:25,160
Speaker 2: government all of these broad powers because of government subsidies

2863
02:44:25,160 --> 02:44:27,400
Speaker 2: and programs, and we're going to take the money when

2864
02:44:27,440 --> 02:44:30,000
Speaker 2: the government decides to get a little tyrannical, ain't much

2865
02:44:30,040 --> 02:44:31,720
Speaker 2: we could do about it. We got to sit back

2866
02:44:31,720 --> 02:44:32,640
Speaker 2: and roll with the punches.

2867
02:44:32,760 --> 02:44:35,400
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of people will disagree with you, especially.

2868
02:44:35,040 --> 02:44:36,960
Speaker 2: You can disagree if you want, but look at the results.

2869
02:44:39,120 --> 02:44:43,000
Speaker 3: It begs the question. Say you do win your nomination

2870
02:44:43,280 --> 02:44:47,720
Speaker 3: and win the seats, then what do you do? Look

2871
02:44:47,760 --> 02:44:50,000
Speaker 3: at the results? What is what is your what is

2872
02:44:50,040 --> 02:44:55,480
Speaker 3: your policy recommendations? As a US senator. And it even

2873
02:44:55,520 --> 02:44:58,959
Speaker 3: goes for you're a president, right as a president.

2874
02:44:59,440 --> 02:45:01,760
Speaker 2: Tell people to truth. Let me let me leave people

2875
02:45:01,800 --> 02:45:04,160
Speaker 2: with that. Let me let me leave people with this. Theoretical,

2876
02:45:05,320 --> 02:45:09,440
Speaker 2: Let's say tonight you're watching whatever streaming service that.

2877
02:45:09,440 --> 02:45:11,400
Speaker 3: You watch campaign promise. Why not?

2878
02:45:12,280 --> 02:45:15,520
Speaker 2: Let me let's say tonight you're watching whatever streaming service

2879
02:45:15,600 --> 02:45:21,160
Speaker 2: you watch. Okay, could be cable television, could be local television. Anything.

2880
02:45:21,879 --> 02:45:24,560
Speaker 2: Let's say you get an emergency broadcast from the American

2881
02:45:24,600 --> 02:45:29,200
Speaker 2: government that says, uh, this is not a test, this

2882
02:45:29,240 --> 02:45:32,600
Speaker 2: is a crisis. There has been an outbreak of a

2883
02:45:32,640 --> 02:45:39,800
Speaker 2: pathogen that could potentially wipe out our entire population. National guards,

2884
02:45:40,680 --> 02:45:46,879
Speaker 2: American military are being deployed to your local area to

2885
02:45:47,000 --> 02:45:49,440
Speaker 2: help you to safety. We're going to bring you to

2886
02:45:49,480 --> 02:45:53,360
Speaker 2: the FEMA camps to try and contain the outbreak of

2887
02:45:53,360 --> 02:45:56,119
Speaker 2: this deadly pathogen. How many what portion of the American

2888
02:45:56,440 --> 02:45:57,680
Speaker 2: society you think would.

2889
02:45:57,440 --> 02:46:01,200
Speaker 3: Go Fear is a powerful agent?

2890
02:46:01,280 --> 02:46:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, I'm asking how many.

2891
02:46:03,240 --> 02:46:06,080
Speaker 3: I see a lot of people doing that. Yeah, I

2892
02:46:06,080 --> 02:46:06,320
Speaker 3: don't know.

2893
02:46:06,360 --> 02:46:08,040
Speaker 2: I'd say about the same amount of people that took

2894
02:46:08,080 --> 02:46:11,640
Speaker 2: the vaccine. Sure, let's use that as a as a predicate.

2895
02:46:11,360 --> 02:46:14,199
Speaker 3: Not a bad parallel. Have you taken vaccine?

2896
02:46:14,240 --> 02:46:16,640
Speaker 2: I did not? I did not have not been vaccine,

2897
02:46:16,800 --> 02:46:22,199
Speaker 2: COVID vaccine. Yes, not take the COVID yet. But let's

2898
02:46:22,280 --> 02:46:24,879
Speaker 2: let's use that number that whoever the COVID people took

2899
02:46:24,920 --> 02:46:27,560
Speaker 2: COVID vaccine would probably go along with the with the

2900
02:46:27,600 --> 02:46:32,119
Speaker 2: martial law. Right, you look at that and you go,

2901
02:46:35,640 --> 02:46:38,280
Speaker 2: do the American people really understand what it means to

2902
02:46:38,280 --> 02:46:41,040
Speaker 2: be free and the responsibility and danger that comes along

2903
02:46:41,080 --> 02:46:44,000
Speaker 2: with that. Our founding father is one of the most

2904
02:46:44,040 --> 02:46:46,480
Speaker 2: brilliant statements from our founding fathers. And I always tell

2905
02:46:46,520 --> 02:46:49,640
Speaker 2: people this at Republican Party events because I think that

2906
02:46:49,680 --> 02:46:52,000
Speaker 2: the Republican Party likes to pretend that we care about

2907
02:46:52,040 --> 02:46:54,320
Speaker 2: freedom and the founding of his nation, but when push

2908
02:46:54,360 --> 02:46:56,360
Speaker 2: comes to shove, it's more of a moniker than it

2909
02:46:56,440 --> 02:47:01,840
Speaker 2: is a practical practice. If you trade, if you're willing

2910
02:47:01,879 --> 02:47:04,960
Speaker 2: to trade your freedom for security, you will have neither,

2911
02:47:05,080 --> 02:47:10,080
Speaker 2: and more importantly, you deserve neither. Our founding fathers constructed

2912
02:47:10,080 --> 02:47:13,720
Speaker 2: this nation in a way where we assume we presuppose

2913
02:47:14,480 --> 02:47:19,599
Speaker 2: God given inalienable rights. But they were so tough intellectually

2914
02:47:20,600 --> 02:47:22,640
Speaker 2: they believe there was a way for you to forfeit

2915
02:47:22,680 --> 02:47:26,320
Speaker 2: your God given rights. Imagine that as a concept, just conceptually,

2916
02:47:26,320 --> 02:47:29,800
Speaker 2: that's profound. You have inalienable God given rights, which means

2917
02:47:29,800 --> 02:47:32,560
Speaker 2: that there's an authority higher than the government. But you

2918
02:47:32,640 --> 02:47:36,400
Speaker 2: can be such a fucking coward that you forfeit those

2919
02:47:36,440 --> 02:47:37,800
Speaker 2: God given rights.

2920
02:47:38,360 --> 02:47:41,080
Speaker 3: I love that, but the opposite, it's true too. Go ahead,

2921
02:47:41,280 --> 02:47:46,400
Speaker 3: the federalist papers the ability to check, change, check, and

2922
02:47:46,480 --> 02:47:51,760
Speaker 3: balance over time as societies evolved to protect said inalienable rights,

2923
02:47:51,800 --> 02:47:55,119
Speaker 3: just like Lincoln. Yes, just like the ability to vote.

2924
02:47:55,120 --> 02:47:56,080
Speaker 3: As it comes back.

2925
02:47:55,879 --> 02:48:00,200
Speaker 2: To, I agree. The question is if your lawmakers are

2926
02:48:00,200 --> 02:48:02,840
Speaker 2: not righteous, then there is no rule of law. There

2927
02:48:02,920 --> 02:48:06,360
Speaker 2: is no The law is not righteous. And we all

2928
02:48:06,400 --> 02:48:09,760
Speaker 2: know that our lawmakers are not righteous. We know that

2929
02:48:09,800 --> 02:48:11,680
Speaker 2: they're not playing on the up and up, we know

2930
02:48:11,760 --> 02:48:12,359
Speaker 2: they're corrupt.

2931
02:48:12,640 --> 02:48:13,680
Speaker 3: So what's your plan?

2932
02:48:14,640 --> 02:48:15,280
Speaker 2: Tell the truth.

2933
02:48:15,360 --> 02:48:17,800
Speaker 3: Man. That's not a policy though, come on, give me

2934
02:48:17,800 --> 02:48:21,360
Speaker 3: more more, No, it is, give me a policy plan here,

2935
02:48:21,760 --> 02:48:22,560
Speaker 3: something detailed.

2936
02:48:23,200 --> 02:48:25,039
Speaker 2: America first, just right.

2937
02:48:25,680 --> 02:48:27,199
Speaker 3: Pretty broad? Still broad.

2938
02:48:27,680 --> 02:48:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in a we're in a bad time. We

2939
02:48:29,879 --> 02:48:34,720
Speaker 2: need broad policy approach. Tell the truth America first. There's

2940
02:48:34,720 --> 02:48:36,520
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with taking care of your home first. If

2941
02:48:36,520 --> 02:48:39,400
Speaker 2: you don't believe so, you know, the next time your

2942
02:48:39,400 --> 02:48:41,800
Speaker 2: house is a mess, go on down the street to

2943
02:48:41,840 --> 02:48:43,800
Speaker 2: your neighbor's house and spend the day cleaning their house

2944
02:48:43,840 --> 02:48:46,480
Speaker 2: instead of your own. Take the doors off of your own,

2945
02:48:46,600 --> 02:48:48,879
Speaker 2: your own, your own front of you know, you're the

2946
02:48:48,879 --> 02:48:51,960
Speaker 2: front of your house. We need a border. You don't

2947
02:48:51,959 --> 02:48:55,800
Speaker 2: have border. You don't have a country. Our priority should

2948
02:48:55,800 --> 02:48:58,320
Speaker 2: be number one as a nation. That's just prudent. That's

2949
02:48:58,360 --> 02:49:00,840
Speaker 2: that's kind of the standard of all nations across history.

2950
02:49:01,320 --> 02:49:04,680
Speaker 2: In fact, the same neo colonial philosophy that the liberals

2951
02:49:04,720 --> 02:49:07,760
Speaker 2: say that they detest is the philosophy that informs that

2952
02:49:07,800 --> 02:49:11,039
Speaker 2: America should be responsible for the entire world. Who the

2953
02:49:11,080 --> 02:49:13,280
Speaker 2: fuck are we to be responsible for everybody else and

2954
02:49:13,280 --> 02:49:15,960
Speaker 2: tell everybody else how to run their shit. I love

2955
02:49:16,000 --> 02:49:18,199
Speaker 2: to see the rise of the populist movement in Africa

2956
02:49:18,280 --> 02:49:22,760
Speaker 2: and Berkina Fosso. I love that the young general there

2957
02:49:22,760 --> 02:49:27,000
Speaker 2: in Burkina Fosso told all these international folks to get

2958
02:49:27,040 --> 02:49:29,959
Speaker 2: the fuck out of our country. We will survive or

2959
02:49:30,000 --> 02:49:32,000
Speaker 2: fail on our own, but we're going to use our

2960
02:49:32,080 --> 02:49:34,920
Speaker 2: natural resources and our people to try and build our

2961
02:49:34,959 --> 02:49:37,120
Speaker 2: country up in a way that represents the best interests

2962
02:49:37,120 --> 02:49:39,200
Speaker 2: of us as a nation. But the key word in

2963
02:49:39,240 --> 02:49:42,760
Speaker 2: that is as a nation, and Burkina Fasso is on

2964
02:49:42,840 --> 02:49:45,240
Speaker 2: the rise as a nation, and as a Westerner, I

2965
02:49:45,280 --> 02:49:48,280
Speaker 2: say God, bless God, bless them. More power to them.

2966
02:49:48,400 --> 02:49:50,400
Speaker 2: Hopefully it doesn't become a communist nation.

2967
02:49:50,480 --> 02:49:52,040
Speaker 3: But what do you say to other people who are

2968
02:49:52,080 --> 02:49:53,400
Speaker 3: seeking help, who want aid?

2969
02:49:54,240 --> 02:49:56,720
Speaker 2: The question is what type of aiight? What type of

2970
02:49:56,800 --> 02:49:58,080
Speaker 2: aight and in what capacity?

2971
02:49:58,160 --> 02:50:00,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I'm saying that young general speaking

2972
02:50:00,440 --> 02:50:01,760
Speaker 3: for a lot of people. A lot of people don't

2973
02:50:01,800 --> 02:50:02,840
Speaker 3: agree necessarily.

2974
02:50:02,920 --> 02:50:05,119
Speaker 2: Well, the people in Burkina Fossil agree, and that's all

2975
02:50:05,120 --> 02:50:09,640
Speaker 2: that matters, okay, Because.

2976
02:50:09,760 --> 02:50:12,280
Speaker 3: At the point, at the point where you've not done

2977
02:50:12,320 --> 02:50:16,360
Speaker 3: enough work and became foules, at the.

2978
02:50:16,320 --> 02:50:20,320
Speaker 2: Point where the people in Burkina Fossil disagree, I expect

2979
02:50:20,360 --> 02:50:23,240
Speaker 2: you'll see some some some conflict there in Berkina Fossil,

2980
02:50:23,560 --> 02:50:26,280
Speaker 2: the same way you saw on Somalia. The problem was

2981
02:50:26,360 --> 02:50:28,840
Speaker 2: we went into Somalia and tried to prop up one

2982
02:50:28,920 --> 02:50:31,480
Speaker 2: side of the conflict, and then we end up with

2983
02:50:31,520 --> 02:50:35,560
Speaker 2: all these Somali immigrants here, who need our taxpayers money?

2984
02:50:36,240 --> 02:50:42,039
Speaker 2: Tell me what country China comes to the West aids

2985
02:50:42,040 --> 02:50:44,920
Speaker 2: in a war between us in Mexico, and then American

2986
02:50:44,959 --> 02:50:47,760
Speaker 2: refugees have to go to China, and they're gonna pay

2987
02:50:47,760 --> 02:50:50,840
Speaker 2: for us to be there. Give me a fucking break.

2988
02:50:51,720 --> 02:50:53,360
Speaker 2: Never gonna happen. You know what they do to you

2989
02:50:53,440 --> 02:50:56,680
Speaker 2: in China if you crossed the border illegally, they just

2990
02:50:56,720 --> 02:50:58,360
Speaker 2: take you out back and they just shoot you in

2991
02:50:58,360 --> 02:50:58,720
Speaker 2: the head.

2992
02:50:59,640 --> 02:51:00,879
Speaker 3: I guess I just they.

2993
02:51:00,840 --> 02:51:03,000
Speaker 2: Don't take the time to pleasantly deport you back to

2994
02:51:03,040 --> 02:51:04,160
Speaker 2: your origin country.

2995
02:51:05,760 --> 02:51:08,000
Speaker 3: I guess I don't like in my mind their.

2996
02:51:07,879 --> 02:51:08,800
Speaker 2: Own people in China.

2997
02:51:08,840 --> 02:51:13,080
Speaker 3: I mean it's yeah, you know, I guess get into

2998
02:51:13,080 --> 02:51:15,520
Speaker 3: a lot of these case studies, which is ye, I'll

2999
02:51:15,560 --> 02:51:20,520
Speaker 3: not discussing this sense, but when I think of the

3000
02:51:20,840 --> 02:51:24,840
Speaker 3: United States and immigration particular, I find out to be

3001
02:51:24,920 --> 02:51:27,840
Speaker 3: a strain, i e. The melting pod aspect of me

3002
02:51:28,600 --> 02:51:31,160
Speaker 3: of my parents coming from Hong Kong.

3003
02:51:31,040 --> 02:51:33,039
Speaker 2: To a certain let. Oh yeah, let's talk about Hong

3004
02:51:33,120 --> 02:51:33,960
Speaker 2: Kong another day.

3005
02:51:34,320 --> 02:51:36,120
Speaker 3: But my parents im grand here and.

3006
02:51:36,600 --> 02:51:41,199
Speaker 2: Hong Kong, the western was the western focal point of China,

3007
02:51:41,560 --> 02:51:44,760
Speaker 2: and that's why the Hong Kong News were locked down

3008
02:51:45,280 --> 02:51:48,760
Speaker 2: brutally during the COVID pandemic because President g and the

3009
02:51:48,800 --> 02:51:53,000
Speaker 2: Beijing regime saw fit to give the Hong Kong News

3010
02:51:53,760 --> 02:51:58,560
Speaker 2: a nice reminder that Beijing runs runs Southeast Asia now

3011
02:51:58,800 --> 02:52:01,120
Speaker 2: and that no matter how many On Kong ties there

3012
02:52:01,160 --> 02:52:04,320
Speaker 2: are to the West, President Jijingping will be the one

3013
02:52:04,360 --> 02:52:07,320
Speaker 2: to decide the future of China from here forward. Right.

3014
02:52:07,520 --> 02:52:10,480
Speaker 3: But I do think that's why being in this country,

3015
02:52:10,920 --> 02:52:14,720
Speaker 3: immigrating here has a ford that ability to have more

3016
02:52:14,760 --> 02:52:17,440
Speaker 3: freedom than say, and that's a situation. I think that's

3017
02:52:17,480 --> 02:52:20,279
Speaker 3: all I'm saying. When it comes to some Mali Americans

3018
02:52:20,280 --> 02:52:20,720
Speaker 3: as well.

3019
02:52:20,600 --> 02:52:23,080
Speaker 2: Too, the answer, but the answer is for Somalia and

3020
02:52:23,200 --> 02:52:25,480
Speaker 2: China to become as free as America is. That was

3021
02:52:25,520 --> 02:52:27,879
Speaker 2: the whole point of the project when we said after

3022
02:52:27,920 --> 02:52:31,400
Speaker 2: World War Two, We're going to take freedom and democracy

3023
02:52:32,040 --> 02:52:34,680
Speaker 2: all across the world by peace through strength. The point

3024
02:52:34,680 --> 02:52:37,400
Speaker 2: of it was that the peace we brought by military

3025
02:52:37,440 --> 02:52:41,320
Speaker 2: strength was supposed to make nation self determining. We didn't.

3026
02:52:41,360 --> 02:52:44,880
Speaker 2: We made them dependent on us. We made China dependent,

3027
02:52:45,240 --> 02:52:49,800
Speaker 2: we made East we made Europe dependent, we made Africa

3028
02:52:49,879 --> 02:52:52,560
Speaker 2: in some ways dependent, all of these NGOs. Oh, we

3029
02:52:52,640 --> 02:52:56,760
Speaker 2: want to give condoms to you know, to Mozambique. It's like, oh,

3030
02:52:56,800 --> 02:52:58,200
Speaker 2: they need us or is there going to be an

3031
02:52:58,240 --> 02:53:02,920
Speaker 2: age you know, was AID is gonna run rampant through Mozambique. No,

3032
02:53:03,200 --> 02:53:05,760
Speaker 2: make them self determining. We didn't do that because we

3033
02:53:05,959 --> 02:53:10,280
Speaker 2: liked stealing the money from them being poor and having

3034
02:53:10,520 --> 02:53:14,360
Speaker 2: a poor structural government. We liked it that way.

3035
02:53:14,440 --> 02:53:18,280
Speaker 3: You're just suggesting to isolating keep out. Is that the idea?

3036
02:53:18,480 --> 02:53:21,080
Speaker 2: No, My goal as a United States Senator is to

3037
02:53:21,120 --> 02:53:26,280
Speaker 2: bring a cultural sentiment to the United States Senate that

3038
02:53:26,360 --> 02:53:30,360
Speaker 2: says the number one priority for the United States Senate

3039
02:53:30,400 --> 02:53:35,000
Speaker 2: and for the American government legislatively is to pass bills

3040
02:53:35,040 --> 02:53:39,480
Speaker 2: and policies that return self determined that that return self

3041
02:53:39,480 --> 02:53:42,920
Speaker 2: determination to the to the countries that we said that

3042
02:53:42,959 --> 02:53:45,240
Speaker 2: we were going to help but didn't, that it's actually

3043
02:53:45,240 --> 02:53:49,160
Speaker 2: important that they become self determining now because if we don't,

3044
02:53:49,280 --> 02:53:52,119
Speaker 2: not only do they fail like Somalia, but then America

3045
02:53:52,160 --> 02:53:55,360
Speaker 2: starts to fail. It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. It's

3046
02:53:55,400 --> 02:53:58,760
Speaker 2: like a bad Ferris Will where the destruction just kind

3047
02:53:58,800 --> 02:54:01,640
Speaker 2: of spirals down into in the chaos. And that's what

3048
02:54:01,720 --> 02:54:04,280
Speaker 2: we see. No, no, no, we want Somali to be

3049
02:54:04,360 --> 02:54:09,400
Speaker 2: a strong, prospering, sovereign, self determining nation. That would be

3050
02:54:09,440 --> 02:54:11,879
Speaker 2: great for America, but it would also be great for

3051
02:54:11,879 --> 02:54:14,039
Speaker 2: the Somalis that live here in Minneapolis. They could go

3052
02:54:14,080 --> 02:54:16,840
Speaker 2: back to their homeland. They have a beautiful country. They

3053
02:54:16,879 --> 02:54:20,240
Speaker 2: fled their country, not because the land wasn't arable or

3054
02:54:20,240 --> 02:54:23,959
Speaker 2: because there aren't natural resources, because it's a dry and

3055
02:54:24,040 --> 02:54:27,480
Speaker 2: desolate place to live. They fled because of a conflict

3056
02:54:27,480 --> 02:54:30,840
Speaker 2: of genocide and war, a genocide by the way that

3057
02:54:30,879 --> 02:54:36,039
Speaker 2: ilhan Omar's father participated in. But a lot of them want.

3058
02:54:35,879 --> 02:54:38,400
Speaker 3: To go home, but a lot of them enjoy it

3059
02:54:38,480 --> 02:54:39,040
Speaker 3: being here. Now.

3060
02:54:39,440 --> 02:54:41,560
Speaker 2: See, you don't know the Somali community that well. A

3061
02:54:41,560 --> 02:54:46,080
Speaker 2: lot of Somalians came here from through refugee status and

3062
02:54:46,160 --> 02:54:48,160
Speaker 2: they would love to go home if Somalia was a

3063
02:54:48,160 --> 02:54:50,400
Speaker 2: place that they could return to and prosper.

3064
02:54:50,600 --> 02:54:52,760
Speaker 3: But a lot of people grew up here as Americans,

3065
02:54:53,080 --> 02:54:53,320
Speaker 3: and a.

3066
02:54:53,320 --> 02:54:55,560
Speaker 2: Lot of people who grew up here are first generation

3067
02:54:55,640 --> 02:54:58,320
Speaker 2: from Somalia in the nineties, and they would love to

3068
02:54:58,360 --> 02:55:01,039
Speaker 2: go home as well. They loved their nation, They love

3069
02:55:01,120 --> 02:55:03,760
Speaker 2: their homeland. That's why they kept the culture. You see

3070
02:55:03,800 --> 02:55:06,200
Speaker 2: the difference between the Somali people, and I respect them

3071
02:55:06,200 --> 02:55:08,920
Speaker 2: for this. They kept their culture and their heritage, but

3072
02:55:08,959 --> 02:55:11,480
Speaker 2: nobody says you're Somali supremacists.

3073
02:55:11,920 --> 02:55:12,080
Speaker 6: No.

3074
02:55:12,160 --> 02:55:14,560
Speaker 2: They speak their language, they keep their customs, they keep

3075
02:55:14,600 --> 02:55:17,320
Speaker 2: their uh, their their their clothing and their and their

3076
02:55:17,320 --> 02:55:20,160
Speaker 2: their heritage and their garb and their dietonal. They do

3077
02:55:20,240 --> 02:55:23,000
Speaker 2: the things that the Somalian culture does. But that says

3078
02:55:23,000 --> 02:55:26,720
Speaker 2: something about how they feel. Uh uh you know when

3079
02:55:26,760 --> 02:55:28,920
Speaker 2: it comes to Somalia. I love Somalia, but.

3080
02:55:30,520 --> 02:55:33,080
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that I don't based on the conversation

3081
02:55:33,200 --> 02:55:34,119
Speaker 3: I've had with smaller.

3082
02:55:33,959 --> 02:55:36,320
Speaker 2: The Ukrainians who have to who had to leave Ukraine

3083
02:55:36,440 --> 02:55:39,000
Speaker 2: under this current war, love to have not had to

3084
02:55:39,080 --> 02:55:41,400
Speaker 2: leave Ukraine and be able to return to Ukraine.

3085
02:55:41,840 --> 02:55:44,320
Speaker 3: I'm simply saying, speaking for everybody, it's just hard for

3086
02:55:44,360 --> 02:55:46,279
Speaker 3: me to do because I haven't talked to them myself

3087
02:55:46,320 --> 02:55:49,679
Speaker 3: specifically to warrant that degree in widerness.

3088
02:55:49,240 --> 02:55:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm telling you of people that keeps the type of

3089
02:55:52,040 --> 02:55:57,040
Speaker 2: cultural heritage alive and vibrant like the Somali community does,

3090
02:55:57,080 --> 02:55:59,720
Speaker 2: and I know them well because I'm here in Minnesota. Minneapolis.

3091
02:56:00,320 --> 02:56:03,720
Speaker 2: It suggests that they are deeply affectionate about where they

3092
02:56:03,760 --> 02:56:06,879
Speaker 2: come from, and it says that they were forced out

3093
02:56:06,959 --> 02:56:10,120
Speaker 2: under bad auspices. Maybe they came here for opportunity, But

3094
02:56:10,160 --> 02:56:13,800
Speaker 2: the question is why does that opportunity not exist in Somalia.

3095
02:56:14,400 --> 02:56:17,160
Speaker 2: It's because of our business model. It's because of the

3096
02:56:17,200 --> 02:56:21,640
Speaker 2: British Empire's business model. It's because of Western societies, academic

3097
02:56:21,720 --> 02:56:24,840
Speaker 2: elites business model where they say, we want.

3098
02:56:24,640 --> 02:56:28,000
Speaker 6: To help everybody, but only if we can stand over

3099
02:56:28,080 --> 02:56:31,879
Speaker 6: you in virtue signal we're smarter than you, Somalian. So

3100
02:56:31,959 --> 02:56:34,680
Speaker 6: we'll be telling you what's best for your country, and

3101
02:56:34,720 --> 02:56:39,000
Speaker 6: then we'll allow you few immigrants to refugee status on

3102
02:56:39,080 --> 02:56:43,720
Speaker 6: over to Minneapolis, and we'll give you welfare and free

3103
02:56:43,920 --> 02:56:44,800
Speaker 6: medical assistance.

3104
02:56:46,480 --> 02:56:52,080
Speaker 2: What kind of a deal is that we'll rape your

3105
02:56:52,160 --> 02:56:56,879
Speaker 2: fucking country blind in exchange to become a ward of

3106
02:56:56,959 --> 02:57:00,800
Speaker 2: the American welfare state? Are you fucking kidding now? The

3107
02:57:00,879 --> 02:57:03,920
Speaker 2: question the Somologies have to ask themselves is what what

3108
02:57:03,920 --> 02:57:07,000
Speaker 2: what type of self respect do they have? What type

3109
02:57:07,000 --> 02:57:09,359
Speaker 2: of what type of pride do they take in themselves?

3110
02:57:09,680 --> 02:57:11,680
Speaker 2: And it's the same thing Americans have to ask, same

3111
02:57:11,720 --> 02:57:15,120
Speaker 2: thing Black people have to ask. Don't be telling us

3112
02:57:15,120 --> 02:57:19,400
Speaker 2: you'll give us a couple of HBCU uh uh you know, uh,

3113
02:57:19,720 --> 02:57:26,279
Speaker 2: graduate certificates that are under under credentialized, over credentialized, under educated,

3114
02:57:27,280 --> 02:57:30,440
Speaker 2: and and and force us into a gig economy where

3115
02:57:30,440 --> 02:57:32,240
Speaker 2: we're not going to own anything, but we're gonna be

3116
02:57:32,240 --> 02:57:38,000
Speaker 2: happy because this cosmopolitan world traveling Instagram persona seems to

3117
02:57:38,000 --> 02:57:40,560
Speaker 2: benefit me being able to get high and fuck on

3118
02:57:40,560 --> 02:57:44,760
Speaker 2: the weekends. That's not a real existence. That's not an

3119
02:57:44,800 --> 02:57:48,120
Speaker 2: identity to be proud of. Maybe if you're Meg the

3120
02:57:48,160 --> 02:57:52,920
Speaker 2: fucking Stallion, it is. Maybe if you're a Jasmine unbelievable crocket,

3121
02:57:52,920 --> 02:57:57,000
Speaker 2: it is. But if you're Frederick Douglas, if Frederick Douglas

3122
02:57:57,120 --> 02:57:59,720
Speaker 2: was alive today, he'd stand up and say, look at

3123
02:57:59,720 --> 02:58:03,920
Speaker 2: what lack of America has become. We're a joke of

3124
02:58:03,959 --> 02:58:07,959
Speaker 2: our own ineptitude. We don't even demand the highest standard

3125
02:58:08,000 --> 02:58:10,640
Speaker 2: of the citizenship that I fought so hard to create

3126
02:58:10,680 --> 02:58:14,640
Speaker 2: equal opportunity for too access to. We don't even demand it.

3127
02:58:14,680 --> 02:58:17,760
Speaker 2: We've become a you know, a ghost in the machine

3128
02:58:17,800 --> 02:58:23,760
Speaker 2: of the rise of AI and you know social media superficiality. No,

3129
02:58:23,959 --> 02:58:26,440
Speaker 2: you have to demand more for yourself. It goes for blacks,

3130
02:58:26,760 --> 02:58:31,080
Speaker 2: it goes for Asians, It goes for whites, it goes

3131
02:58:31,120 --> 02:58:33,680
Speaker 2: for Christians and Muslims and Jews, it goes for men

3132
02:58:33,720 --> 02:58:36,920
Speaker 2: and women, young and old, it goes for the Somalis,

3133
02:58:37,320 --> 02:58:40,560
Speaker 2: the people of Burkina Fasso, the people there in Poland,

3134
02:58:40,680 --> 02:58:44,160
Speaker 2: in Germany. It's the same problem all around the world.

3135
02:58:44,200 --> 02:58:47,120
Speaker 2: And that's why when I Ran I said, what I'm

3136
02:58:47,120 --> 02:58:51,600
Speaker 2: fighting against is the globalist agenda. The globalist agendas, the

3137
02:58:51,640 --> 02:58:57,000
Speaker 2: globalist agenda's goal. The goal of the globalist agenda is

3138
02:58:57,040 --> 02:59:02,520
Speaker 2: to bastardize the sovereignty of the individual in the nation state.

3139
02:59:05,680 --> 02:59:12,240
Speaker 3: I'll say this, I'm of the mind that it's hard

3140
02:59:12,280 --> 02:59:17,160
Speaker 3: for me to speak for anybody really straight up like

3141
02:59:17,360 --> 02:59:21,360
Speaker 3: in terms of culture, backgrounds, identities. Partly the reason why

3142
02:59:21,400 --> 02:59:23,480
Speaker 3: this project came into first in the first place. I

3143
02:59:23,520 --> 02:59:27,039
Speaker 3: want to talk to people up close, firsthand and see

3144
02:59:27,120 --> 02:59:30,840
Speaker 3: where their nuances, where their beliefs, identities and perspectives come

3145
02:59:31,280 --> 02:59:35,040
Speaker 3: to bear, and how that matriculates into a vote or

3146
02:59:35,120 --> 02:59:38,840
Speaker 3: their actions in the society. So for me, I think

3147
02:59:38,840 --> 02:59:42,360
Speaker 3: it's a constant exploration to figure out who we are

3148
02:59:42,400 --> 02:59:44,800
Speaker 3: and who each other are in this country at this time.

3149
02:59:46,120 --> 02:59:49,279
Speaker 3: And you know so as much as you are assuming

3150
02:59:49,320 --> 02:59:52,400
Speaker 3: the perspectives of multiple people. I think for myself, I

3151
02:59:52,440 --> 02:59:54,800
Speaker 3: try my best to explore and connect and ask the

3152
02:59:54,879 --> 02:59:56,920
Speaker 3: questions to figure out that over time.

3153
02:59:57,160 --> 02:59:58,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's why I'm running for us sentit and

3154
02:59:58,959 --> 03:00:01,920
Speaker 2: you're doing reporting because I have to. I have to

3155
03:00:01,959 --> 03:00:04,680
Speaker 2: have a little bit more surety about what people's intentions are.

3156
03:00:05,160 --> 03:00:07,920
Speaker 2: But I don't just say it as a conjecturer or

3157
03:00:08,040 --> 03:00:11,520
Speaker 2: or you know, uh, you know, my own individual theory.

3158
03:00:11,560 --> 03:00:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm going off of what they say and more importantly,

3159
03:00:13,560 --> 03:00:16,720
Speaker 2: what they do. When I say the globalist agenda again,

3160
03:00:16,800 --> 03:00:18,800
Speaker 2: George Soros is one of the biggest funders of the

3161
03:00:18,840 --> 03:00:23,039
Speaker 2: Democrat Party, and he openly promotes a borderless society. What

3162
03:00:23,080 --> 03:00:25,640
Speaker 2: would a what would a world be without borders? Not

3163
03:00:25,720 --> 03:00:28,119
Speaker 2: leave people with this even borders is an interesting one.

3164
03:00:28,160 --> 03:00:32,640
Speaker 2: There's a profound meaning in borders. So people look at

3165
03:00:32,680 --> 03:00:36,520
Speaker 2: borders as these arbitrary lines that powerful people draw to

3166
03:00:36,640 --> 03:00:39,879
Speaker 2: divvy up natural resources and land. Borders have a much

3167
03:00:39,959 --> 03:00:44,920
Speaker 2: deeper spiritual meaning than that. Borders place a limit on

3168
03:00:45,080 --> 03:00:49,520
Speaker 2: man's unfettered ambition to be emperor, ruler of all and

3169
03:00:49,800 --> 03:00:53,120
Speaker 2: in the highest at the highest level God. That's what

3170
03:00:53,160 --> 03:00:56,520
Speaker 2: borders do. Borders say you can't be king of everybody

3171
03:00:56,520 --> 03:01:03,280
Speaker 2: and everywhere, So how could we Why would we have

3172
03:01:03,320 --> 03:01:05,160
Speaker 2: a borderist society? Who would be in charge of a

3173
03:01:05,200 --> 03:01:10,879
Speaker 2: borderless society? See, the communists never ask themselves that. The

3174
03:01:10,920 --> 03:01:14,040
Speaker 2: communists never say, well, who's actually in charge of a

3175
03:01:14,160 --> 03:01:17,520
Speaker 2: of a of a communist society. It's like people who say, oh, well,

3176
03:01:17,760 --> 03:01:20,720
Speaker 2: you think that the Chinese billionaires are really communists. No,

3177
03:01:20,760 --> 03:01:24,520
Speaker 2: they're capitalists, highness communists. No, they're communists. Who are who

3178
03:01:24,600 --> 03:01:28,080
Speaker 2: are uh? Who are raping the people of a bigger

3179
03:01:28,120 --> 03:01:30,400
Speaker 2: share of bigger lion's share of the of the of

3180
03:01:30,440 --> 03:01:34,360
Speaker 2: the treasure, of the of the take. Their communist philosophy

3181
03:01:34,720 --> 03:01:40,000
Speaker 2: is that government should be the highest authority in society.

3182
03:01:40,280 --> 03:01:44,720
Speaker 2: That's where their communism shows in a republican form of government.

3183
03:01:44,800 --> 03:01:49,840
Speaker 2: Republicanism is that the sovereign individual is the highest authority

3184
03:01:49,959 --> 03:01:55,600
Speaker 2: of the society, only only transcended, only superseded by God himself.

3185
03:02:00,120 --> 03:02:02,040
Speaker 3: We've gone on for a bit of time. Let me

3186
03:02:02,080 --> 03:02:06,800
Speaker 3: just say ask one last question. Yes, what do you

3187
03:02:06,800 --> 03:02:08,760
Speaker 3: hope for for you coming election? What do you hope

3188
03:02:08,760 --> 03:02:11,600
Speaker 3: for the next couple months.

3189
03:02:12,400 --> 03:02:14,120
Speaker 2: I hope that we have a real awakening in this

3190
03:02:14,160 --> 03:02:18,360
Speaker 2: country of what's important that people are more interested in

3191
03:02:18,680 --> 03:02:22,280
Speaker 2: conversations like this one, and that we hold ourselves to

3192
03:02:22,360 --> 03:02:32,360
Speaker 2: a higher standard as citizens, politically, culturally, spiritually, intellectually. I

3193
03:02:32,400 --> 03:02:34,280
Speaker 2: think the intellect and the spirit our in it, she

3194
03:02:34,320 --> 03:02:38,600
Speaker 2: could be linked, and that the Bible is a guide

3195
03:02:39,040 --> 03:02:44,520
Speaker 2: to improve the intellect so one can improve their their spirit.

3196
03:02:45,520 --> 03:02:48,920
Speaker 2: And there's a crisis of that in our society. And

3197
03:02:49,160 --> 03:02:55,200
Speaker 2: I hope that political campaigns, political candidates, political activists, the

3198
03:02:55,320 --> 03:02:59,280
Speaker 2: entire political world, the entire political industry, because it is

3199
03:02:59,280 --> 03:03:08,400
Speaker 2: an industry, becomes, you know, a shepherd of of evolution,

3200
03:03:09,600 --> 03:03:13,320
Speaker 2: cultural evolution. That's what politics should be. It should evolve

3201
03:03:13,360 --> 03:03:19,000
Speaker 2: the culture. Right now, it's destroyed the culture. So let

3202
03:03:19,000 --> 03:03:19,600
Speaker 2: me be clear.

3203
03:03:21,360 --> 03:03:28,039
Speaker 3: We're not broadcasting anything now. What we're gonna do the

3204
03:03:28,080 --> 03:03:32,120
Speaker 3: goal is to revisit everybody closer to the election, like

3205
03:03:32,160 --> 03:03:34,400
Speaker 3: the actual election, whether it's like right afterwards or right

3206
03:03:34,440 --> 03:03:39,000
Speaker 3: before it. But I'd love to reconnect with you come

3207
03:03:39,040 --> 03:03:42,240
Speaker 3: closer when the campaigns in full full steam. Well, see

3208
03:03:42,240 --> 03:03:45,879
Speaker 3: how things are going. How's that feel? Thanks once for

3209
03:03:46,600 --> 03:03:48,520
Speaker 3: continuing to work with me and talk with me, Mike,

3210
03:03:48,600 --> 03:03:49,160
Speaker 3: Thank you man.

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