1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha, and welcome to Stepman 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Never told you Protection if I heart Radio, And welcome 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: to another sub sub segment of fictional women around the world, 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: and further sub segment around the Galaxy, and further sub 5 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: segment Star Wars specifically. Um and yes, there were two 6 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: this month because it's a big Star Wars month. As 7 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: this comes out, is the eve of the anniversary of 8 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: a New Hope forty five years I believe. And I 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: actually bought Samantha. I bought a magazine. I was checking 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: out I want to go get groceries today and there 11 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: was a magazine that was all about Star Wars. I 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: was like, okay, well I'm buying this immediately had to, 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: didn't you. Yeah I did. It was embarrassing because I 14 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: was like wearing a Star Wars shirt and I had 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: my Stars mask. That was like, I hope purchased Sister 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: Wars magazine. Please, that's not right. Yeah it is, it is, 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: uh and yes, Canobi the show will be one. Kenobi 18 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: is either out or it comes out, So this is 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: a little early if you're listening to it right when 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: it comes out, but it is finally time to cover 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: a Soca Tanno as we've longed to used, and some 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: of you have written in about so here it is 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: uh and this is the last Star Wars entry for 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: a while. I promise, unless like something else I really 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: have to talk about comes out or if you have 26 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: request but the show coming soon there is we will 27 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: talk about it well and they are going to be 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: really prepared. Yes, And as with these Star Wars ones, 29 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: just because I felt like it was sort of i 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: don't know, not great of me to throw Samantha under 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: the bush and make her talk about something when I 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: was the one that really wanted to talk about it. 33 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to run through this and if you have 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: any questions, just let me know, all right. So Asokatano 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: is a force sensitive Tortuga woman who was the one 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: time Jedi padawan to Anakin Skywalker a k a. Darth Vader. 37 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: She's a dual lightsaber user. She has two white lightsabers, 38 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: which is actually interesting we're gonna talk about in the minute, 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: but she also uses reverse grip uh and the headdress 40 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: she wears denotes the skills that she has. It's kind 41 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: of like a warrior, you have to do that, you 42 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 1: have to earn that through being a warrior. Many call 43 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: her a gray Jedi as and she's not like total 44 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: light user, not a dark user, but kind of a 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: gray in between. She was first introduced in the animated 46 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: show Star Wars The Clone Wars, which first debuted in 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight and takes place between the films 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sithe and 49 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: shortly after. She was sort of famously a really hated 50 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: character at first. She went from somebody everyone hated to 51 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: a character that was beloved by fans. You can find 52 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: whole YouTube videos about it, essays about how it happened, 53 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: and you you know, I recommended if you're at all interested, 54 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: but there is a lot of information out there about 55 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: how that happened. Rosario Dawson plays her in a live 56 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: action Star Wars media, including the Mandalorian book fet and yes, 57 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: the upcoming show Ah Soca. She has also featured in E. K. 58 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: Johnson's book Star Wars Asoka creator and writer Dave Filoni 59 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: and George Lucas wanted a prominent female Jedi to appeal 60 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: to girls, and that was where kind of the impetus 61 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: for a Soca, And yeah, it just kind of made 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: big headlines that they're filming Asoca right now. They just 63 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: started filming interesting stuff about the name. George Lucas originally 64 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: wanted the name to be Ashla, which he describes as 65 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: the light side of the force. However, they pivoted to Asca, 66 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: perhaps after Asoka the Great, who was an emperor of 67 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: India during the third century BC, who legend has it, 68 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: personally decapitated five hundred of his ministers, burned five hundred 69 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: concubines alive, and built a torture chamber called Asoka's Hell 70 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: that people allegedly said was so sadistic Asoka personally went 71 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: to hell to learn how to make it. Asoka started 72 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: a war that resulted in one hundred thousand casualties, and 73 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: the violence reached such a level that Asoka converted to Buddhism, 74 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: notably the inspiration for jeddaism Um. Asoka became known as Asoka. 75 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: The Righteous. People think the overall influence of this figure 76 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: in the story is is as someone who witnessed evil 77 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: and turned away from more, which is kind of what happens. 78 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: And apparently Georgiocas really lobbied for ros Dawson to play 79 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: he really wanted her to play it, and also allegedly 80 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: her first design was high held boots and a pleaded skirt, 81 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: So I'm glad that kind of in a different way 82 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: it could have worked. But yeah, but why exactly? Yeah, 83 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: I like the direction they went so to get into 84 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: the history. By the age of three, Asoka started showing 85 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: signs of force sensitivity. Jedi Master plow Kun was sent 86 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: to investigate, though he was intercepted by an impostor who 87 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: almost enslaved Asoka, but Plokon arrived in time and took 88 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: her to the Jedi Temple and Courissant for training. Um. 89 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: At the onset of the Clone Wars, Grandmaster Yoda assigned 90 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: her to be Anakin, Skywalker's padawan, who definitely he definitely 91 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: didn't want to pad one and tried to pass her 92 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: off to Obi one I do take here. Anakin called 93 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: her snips, an acknowledgement that she is a lot like him. 94 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: Um And by the way, Yoda hoped mentoring Asoka would 95 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: mellow Anakin out and no, nope, it did not. Uh. 96 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: Their relationships started off a bit rocky. Asoka was eager 97 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: to prove herself like Anakin was reckless, but over time, 98 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: they came to work really well together and they really 99 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: respected each other. On top of that, she earned the 100 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: title of Commander and the Grand Army of the Republic, 101 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: and through that the respect of the Clone Army, and 102 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: for ticular that of Captain Rex at the First, the 103 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: five O first, who became something of a mentor to her. Um. 104 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: She disobeyed orders in her first assignment as leader and 105 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: lost an entire squadron of pilots, but she rebounded from 106 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: this loss and was keen winning the Battle of ryl Off. 107 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: I love that some of this is just like washing over. 108 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: People said, what, Um, it's all a thing. Don't worry 109 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: about it. You get the basic premise. Yeah. As a 110 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: battle one, she dealt with the Sith Apprentice, adventurous bounty 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: hunters like Cabbane, and at one point died but was 112 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: brought back to life by the personification of the Light 113 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: Side of the Force, who sacrificed herself to save Asoka. 114 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: And that episode was like very strange, but essentially that 115 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: was not good for what is to come. Um. Anyway, 116 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: she helped train Sawguerrera and his sister worked with Chewbacca 117 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: to escape a planet where people are hunted for sport 118 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: and helped some jett A young things escape from their captors. However, 119 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: she was framed for a bombing at the Jedi Temple 120 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: Hangar and for a few murders on top of that. 121 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: She managed to escape into the underworld of Courissant and 122 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: partners with interest to clear her slash their names. Eventually, 123 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Asoka was detained and banished from the Jedi Order. Anakin, 124 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: with the help of Padmey, who was a good friend 125 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: of asokas was determined to prove her innocence uh and 126 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: he uncovered the true culprit was Padawan barriss Offie, a 127 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: friend of Asoka's, and fan fiction tells me they were 128 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: in love. But anyway, um through this, Asoka was not convicted, 129 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: and Asoka was invited by the Jedi High Council to 130 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: rejoin the Order, but she refused because she was hurt 131 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: and disillusioned. Anakin begs her to stay, but she walks 132 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: the way down the steps of the Jedi Temple and 133 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: You're like no, because he's even more isolated. Oh gosh uh. 134 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: And you do see an interesting perspective from her time, 135 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: as she's an outcast hearing about people's feelings on the 136 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: war a Jedi Charisson, etcetera. Feel like she might have 137 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: died had she stayed. Oh yeah, I mean, well he 138 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: killed everyone well, and then it's so tragic because he 139 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: made her a promise and he said, I will never 140 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: let anyone hurt you, and you're like, oh no, lies, 141 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: it's very sad. It's very sad. She did briefly come 142 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: back to work with the Republic. On the siege of Mandalori. 143 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: She asked for the help of Anakin and Obi went 144 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: after a tense reunion, but they were on their way 145 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: to save Chancellor Palpatine, who had been kid napped. They 146 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: sent a battalion of some Clones with her instead, and 147 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: she faced off with Darth Maul, who was in possession 148 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: of the Dark Sabor and the rule of Mandalora, and 149 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: she bested and captured him. Shortly after this, though, Order 150 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: sixty six was enacted, which is when the Clones turned 151 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: on all the Jedi because of chips in their heads. 152 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: Um and so Asoka, who was really good friends with 153 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: most of the Clones in her battalion, was attacked by them. 154 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: She is able to free Rex from the chip control 155 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: at least Mall directs the ship they're on to crash, 156 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: and Asoka erects grave markers for the fallen clones, leaving 157 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: her lightsabers behind so it looks like she had died too, 158 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: and then goes into hiding. Darth Vader finds this space 159 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: of her supposed death and stares at it and it's like, 160 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, But then we moved into the 161 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: next phase of her her time in her life, with 162 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: the rise of the Empire, Asoka proved instrumental and organizing 163 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: rebel cells. She joined Bill Organa's burgeoning movement against the Empire, 164 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: and as part of this she rose up to manage 165 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: the intelligence network under the code name Fulcrum. She provided 166 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: information to the rebels, including Harris and Dula, and the 167 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: Ghost Crew, who she took a particular interest in due 168 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: to Jeddak kanan Jaris and his padawan Ezra Bridger. She 169 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: also briefly crossed past with Leiah or Ghana. She reunited 170 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: with Rex and confronted Imperial inquisitors and Darth Vader, who 171 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: unbeknownst to her was Anakin skywalker. During her duel with 172 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: him on Malikor, she was believed to have died but 173 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: in a plot line that may have broken the Star 174 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: Wars universe, and I'm pretty sure Slash Terrified is going 175 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: to come back. Perhaps in this OLLI one show, she 176 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: was saved from death by an Azure bridger from the future. Okay, 177 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,359 Speaker 1: so in the so called world between worlds, she confronted 178 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: darcidious Emperor Palpatine, who wanted to control this dimension, and 179 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: returned to her time and promised Azra she find him 180 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: in the future. I don't think about it too hardy 181 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: hurt you brain, I promise. Once the Galactic Civil War 182 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: came to an end, she joined up with Sabine Wren, 183 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: who we just an episode on to find Asra. To 184 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: that end, we see her in The Mandalorian, the show, 185 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: which was an episode that almost crashed Disney Plus by 186 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: the way. She is searching for information on Grand Annmiral Frown, 187 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: who Azra disappeared with and who was one of the 188 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: main villains of the Legends universe, and now I guess 189 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: also the Disney canon whatever. H She worked alongside the 190 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: Mandalorian Den de Jarin and refused to train Baby Yota 191 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: Slash Gogu due to his attachment to Din in the 192 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: Darkness she sent within him. Later, she visited Luke Skywalker's 193 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: Jedi Temple and book Baba Fette, and once again warned 194 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: Dan about the dangers of attachment and the difference between 195 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: Mandalorian Foundlings and Jedi Padawans, which is interesting because she'd 196 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: it was a lot about both. And don't even talk 197 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: to me about how they introduced Lukanasoka off screen, because 198 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm still saltyes hell about it. I'm so, did you 199 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: explain that to me? Because I feel like you did 200 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: explain that to me? What that they met off screen? No, No, 201 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: they just were like, oh, I guess we know each 202 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: other now, that's what you were saying. They don't have 203 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: a plot line. They just sit moving on with it. Okay. Yeah, 204 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: there wasn't like, oh maybe I've been I'm so mad 205 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: about it. I was like waiting for this and then 206 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: I never thought it would happen, and then for it 207 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: happened like that. No. Did you see the recent picture though, 208 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: of Block Hamill grow Goo the stand in Rosario Dawson. 209 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: I did not see it, Like my heart was broken. 210 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: I do think like if if this episode, if I 211 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: wanted it to go on and on, I would talk 212 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: like I would talk about the trauma here her probably 213 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: seeing what happened to Anakin and Darth Vader and being 214 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: so like, no dutchments isn't not good, very bad. She 215 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: did also join several Jedi voices in Rise of Skywalker, 216 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: and Ray reached out to them in her battle against Palpatine, 217 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: which suggests she is dead by this point because their 218 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: Force ghost. However, creator Dave Filoni Tea is that this 219 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: is not the case, and I that's a heavy side 220 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: from me because I'm so tired of them killing out 221 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: somebody and then bringing them back stopped. Um. Anyway, who 222 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: she is a really interesting character, and I like, uh 223 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: in Colmore, she kind of she did become the focus 224 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: and like Anakin was the side character, and so I 225 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: thought that was an interesting way to do it because 226 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: you as the viewer, know what's going on with him 227 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: and all the stuff, and like their final conversation is 228 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: pretty beat, or at least one of their final conversations, 229 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: not the last one, but you see it through her eyes. 230 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: And then to have I've seen things that kind of 231 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: bothered me about how like if only she hadn't left, 232 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: they do that with pad Me two, if only she 233 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: hadn't done this, he wouldn't have turned. He still did it, Like, 234 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: I get it, but it's not up to her to 235 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: keep him from doing what. She was his student, That's 236 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: the thing. He's like, I don't know if anything would 237 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: have changed. I know that this is a build up 238 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: of things, but he also had someone like digging into 239 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: his brain right right, and then there were a lot 240 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: of failures in the system and with other characters. But 241 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: it's not like her walking away because she felt betrayed 242 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: is like, ah, well, it's her fault. No, I'm also 243 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: kind of I'm intrigued, But they're going to do with 244 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: the show because they feel like her live action version 245 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: and her kind of cartoon animated version don't necessarily match, 246 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of years in between that. So 247 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: maybe they'll explain why she's She seems to be a 248 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: bit I mean, it could just be Darth Vader, but 249 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: she seems to be a lot more like cynical, uh 250 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: and darker. She still has kind of a lightness to her, 251 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: but I'll be curious to see how that goes. Well, gosh, 252 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: now I just want to talk about this trauma so much. 253 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: But all right, this is it for now. Yes, well, 254 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: I hope that you enjoyed this. I hope it was 255 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: informative if you're interested in this character who has become 256 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: very beloved. And yeah, I hope that you enjoy the show. 257 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: Will Will. I'm sure we'll revisit it in the future. 258 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: In the meantime, thanks as always for letting me have 259 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: this space to just nerd out um and if you 260 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: have any suggestions for future fictional when in we would 261 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: love to hear them. 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