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Speaker 2: I understand what shit done now, but we gotta be

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Speaker 2: realistic with where the world, slash white people and everybody

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Speaker 2: socialist dollars to find out how to do this. But

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Speaker 2: I think with any new system, unless we actively safeguarded

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Speaker 2: against marginalized folks. Anyways, while y'all, while they still arguing

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Speaker 2: about abolishing the police, I can't wait to see the

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Speaker 4: Does that mean everybody benefit? Now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Does that mean there's no benefit of doing any

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Speaker 2: Does that not mean? Like it's like they just go,

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Speaker 5: And without giving solutions themselves, because they're not about they're

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Speaker 2: And like I said, it gives me this feeling that

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Speaker 2: but Florida passed that anti riot bill. The most understated

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Speaker 2: what that tells me about Republicans There's two things they're

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Speaker 2: and they're scared of black votes. One of them. You're

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Speaker 2: you might be able to vote and not abolish the police.

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Speaker 2: You cannot abolish the police and not vote. Right, if

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Speaker 2: So the fact that people have questions or real concerns

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Speaker 2: I hope you feel better. You didn't help anybody today,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Well, I tweeted abolition, congrats.

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Speaker 2: We all considered our things and tweet that shit. But

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Speaker 3: Didn't vote Republicans out there?

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Speaker 2: That ain't enough. And I said, okay, there's been a

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Speaker 2: Right I said, were those dune bar Republicans? Were any

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Speaker 2: solution is, let's not get anyone in power that might

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Speaker 2: What can I get you to? So? Can I get

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Speaker 2: you to do that? Can I get you to can

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Speaker 2: we do something about policing? The NRA laying their speech

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Speaker 2: like I'm okay with that, right, I'm not gonna walk

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Speaker 2: my retweets. But that's what this discussion feels like to me.

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Speaker 2: And it's because it's taking place on a narcissistic platform.

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Speaker 2: It's taking place on a place where we get rewarded

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Speaker 2: collective of people no matter what. All Right, the poll was,

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Speaker 2: does it matter what happens after the police are abolished?

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Speaker 2: Because I.

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Speaker 2: But if you go on social media that you apparently

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Speaker 2: are the FEDS for being like, I'm a little concerned

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Speaker 2: with what the plan would be after this? Right? Well,

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Speaker 2: with the audience, Yes, ninety eight percent thinks it matters

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Speaker 2: it don't matter. Care what is your thoughts? Yes, it matters,

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Speaker 2: it matters a lot. Yeah, I thought it would be

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Speaker 3: Thanks Shanna.

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Speaker 2: that could have been a sexual assault. I don't know

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Speaker 2: And when we came back together, that was when you

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Speaker 2: you know. And then so then we can come back

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Speaker 2: I also would wonder how far do the groups break out?

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Speaker 2: Is it just okay, we have a trans child in

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Speaker 2: So I get that. So I do think there's benefits

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Speaker 2: I like I said, that's I definitely am not against

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Speaker 2: can't I say the N word? Well, yeah, in a

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Speaker 5: Well, not these particular men, because they you know, they

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Speaker 2: Well, I just don't think a lot of these teachers

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Speaker 2: men just voted. They were like, we don't want to

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Speaker 2: don't want to do it was hard learning, so we're

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Speaker 2: sure it would have been much harder, but there would

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Speaker 2: We would have heard how much women are hurt by men.

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Speaker 2: We would have heard how abusive.

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Speaker 3: Things can be.

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Speaker 2: And it makes it real for you in a way

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Speaker 2: that it is not when you're a dude in a

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Speaker 2: In that room, we never talked about anything divergent from

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Speaker 2: like I said, it's not I'm not down playing or

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, either side you're dealing with, You're gonna

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Speaker 2: What do you think would work? You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So that it's just it's just crazy and.

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Speaker 2: It's shitty people all over the place and stuff. But

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Speaker 2: that privilege shit is just hard, like you know, to

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Speaker 2: work to know what the right thing is to say.

434
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: You know, so Eve, he says, I kind of understand

435
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 2: what the lady mean about Luther not being black enough.

436
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 2: As far as I could have could have been, it

437
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: could have been written for any race. I watched Luther

438
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 2: and it's a great show. But to be fair, Luther

439
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: doesn't have any friends because a cereal besides a serial

440
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: killer because it's an asshole. So there's that. I'm not

441
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: sure that's the kind of role. I need to see

442
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: him eating rice and peas or at a chicken joint.

443
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: But I get wanting to see more representation of black

444
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 2: people living authentic lives. I think she's signaled single Luther

445
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: out because it's one of the most popular shows in

446
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 2: the UK and the lead is black. Yeah. Like I said,

447
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: I'm I think maybe she was looking for some good

448
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: It's just this is a hard conversation. Yeah, it's really

449
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 2: no right way to talk about that ship because if

450
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: you start getting into these stereotypes, it's like, are we

451
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 2: telling white people, like if you want to write an

452
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 2: authentic black person, had him eating some had him eating

453
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: some roady, you know what I'm saying, Like, do we

454
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 2: had like cause then we you know, most black people

455
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: will be like, well, now you got them just being

456
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: a stereotype, you know. But at the same time, we

457
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: all have that feeling and we all know the kind

458
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: of show we're talking about where you're like, they just

459
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: wrote this character who just a black actor got the role,

460
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 2: but it's not. Nothing about this role is black. You

461
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: know that happened with like I think I talked about

462
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: it on the pregame, but through I think it's it's

463
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: a motherfucking tank. The name hold on, I don't want

464
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: to tank the name Behind her Eyes. There is the

465
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: name of it. I was gonna tak it to say,

466
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: Through her Eyes. But Behind Her Eyes is a TV

467
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: series that a British one starts a black woman, but

468
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: clearly to me doesn't have anything to do with her race.

469
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: I don't even think it comes up once in the

470
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: six seven episodes or whatever. And someone told me in

471
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: the book she's a white woman, and I was like,

472
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: that makes sense, you know. So the question then becomes,

473
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 2: if you have a black actor get this character, do

474
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: I need to then change everything in the script to

475
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 2: be like and then you went to her house and

476
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: she has some shade butter laying out or then she

477
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 2: ordered some soul food. Like at some point I'm like,

478
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: it's okay, everything not gonna do that. But there should

479
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 2: be some shows that do.

480
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 4: Right, and it shouldn't be requirement on every show.

481
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, like some shows, you know, like I May Destroy You.

482
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: Also Black British television it hit those those marks. So

483
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: just not every black thing is gonna be authentically quote

484
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: unquote whatever that means black.

485
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's subjective.

486
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: Right, but yeah, have you ever been have you been

487
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 2: able to safely go to the gym during the pandemic, Yes,

488
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: but not safely? Yes, safely, I haven't been going to

489
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: the gym since the pandemic, or I never went to

490
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 2: the gym.

491
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 4: Care I haven't been going to the gym since the pandemic.

492
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: Me too. I'm in that thirty seven percent, So six

493
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 2: percent say yes but not safely, which, oh my goodness,

494
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: eleven say yes safely, which I hope they're right, right,

495
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: because who knows, maybe y'all also.

496
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: In the first group.

497
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: Might be some crossover thirty seven cents saying I haven't

498
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: going to the since the pandemic, which I am in

499
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 2: that group. Man, I hate that I haven't been going

500
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: I really miss basketball. I miss being active. It's not

501
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: the same when I walk or something like, it's not

502
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: the same. It's just not that's fun. And I never

503
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: went to the gym. Forty six percent of our audience

504
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 2: said fuck a. Jim who em Dog says, I went

505
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: a few times in my lifetime before the pandemic.

506
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: I have been using a panty as its use not

507
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 3: to go.

508
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: It's definitely not safe and I don't feel comfortable, but

509
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: I definitely feel more comfortable going now that I'm vaccinated. Yeah,

510
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: now I'm vaccinated, I am getting an itch to be like,

511
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: what can I do?

512
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: Can I play ball?

513
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna do it because everything. If they're

514
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: saying shit like you gotta wear a mask to the movies,

515
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: I don't think playing basketball is safe. I don't really

516
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 2: give a fuck what people say. That don't sound If

517
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 2: the CDC is like don't we're saying don't get on

518
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: a plane, I'm like the big niggas breathing in my

519
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: face probably not okay with the CDC.

520
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: And breathing hard too.

521
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to breathe hard when these handles is coming,

522
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Twenty three eighteen, A Christian

523
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: Woman of God was the next episode.

524
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: We had two comments.

525
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: Miss Mary Smile says wish I had been listening live

526
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: because I would have got the golf slow clap too.

527
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: I knew that woman who thanken Kamla Harris was black.

528
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: When you said she questioned whether the VP was black,

529
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: the hateration just jumped out niggas. Nick says, hey, gang,

530
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: I finally made a membership and had to come say

531
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: how happy I was to hear you play one version

532
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: of the LGBTQ News and then go back and play

533
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: the BOP. I need that boost before the reminder of

534
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: ignorance that we have to face.

535
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 3: Well, I'm here, while I'm here two other things.

536
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: I started to finish The Wire because of all the

537
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: jokes and how you often mentioned how do you mention it?

538
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: And thank you?

539
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love the Wire.

540
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: It was a great, great series. So yeah, I think

541
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: just one of the greats, one of the most underrated,

542
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: underappreciated TV shows are all time. And I can't believe

543
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: it never really won any awards or any of it. Well,

544
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: I guess I can. It was mostly black cast, but yeah,

545
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: really good, really good show, and the white liberals it.

546
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: Well actually the black liberals too.

547
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: Secondly, how do you know, how did you first know

548
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: you were an impath? Hearing and learning a little bit

549
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: a little more makes me think I may fall into

550
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: the category. Well, I didn't even know that word existed,

551
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: and that was a thing until I was probably thirty something,

552
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: so I didn't even know. I just definitely felt like

553
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: I was weird, especially for a male, a boy, a man, whatever.

554
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: I felt weird because part of manhood, as I've seen it,

555
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: or the performance of manhood, is a lot of not

556
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: caring about other people, about other genders, about other people,

557
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: how people feel about your presence and what you do

558
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: and say. And I always felt weird because I did

559
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: care about that stuff, sometimes too much, honestly, but a

560
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: lot of times I just felt like other people didn't

561
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: care enough. So that was a that was a thing

562
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: for me because I could see a lot of people's perspectives,

563
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: and I could also kind of like feel people's energy

564
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: and emotions sometimes and not not that I can like

565
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: tell what they were thinking, but just like this person

566
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: feels dark, or they feel happy and or they feel whatever.

567
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: And then also it would drain me a lot, and

568
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: not just like draining the way that people think of

569
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: Like I have a conflict at work, and every day

570
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: I got to work, it drains me. I mean, I

571
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: can be around somebody who's happy and their energy can

572
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: suck suck some of my energy away where it's just like, damn,

573
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: this motherfucker is taking a lot of the room. They're

574
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: just sucking just like you know, I'll be at a

575
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: party or some shit and I'm just like, I gotta

576
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: get the fuck here, you know what I mean. Like

577
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: this is in addition to being kind of overwhelming with

578
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: all these different energies and shit, it's it's also like

579
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm burned.

580
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: I'm burning out fast, you know what I mean.

581
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: So uh And then another thing I would notice too

582
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: is uh, with my friends and stuff I can, I

583
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: would mirror sometimes there are emotions back to them that

584
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: might be some lever shit too, but it definitely felt

585
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: like a mirror, Like, you know, if my friend was sad,

586
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: it would make me feel sad somewhat, or make me

587
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: feel like, let me find a way to balance this.

588
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: You know. Uh, they're angry, you know, I can you know,

589
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: I they could be angry and telling me a story.

590
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: I get angry. I feel angry sometimes, And it really

591
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: wasn't until four or five years ago I learned about

592
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: really what being an impact was. I learned about boundaries,

593
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: which was weird to me as an impact because boundaries

594
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: feel like punishment. It feels like you're hurting somebody, like

595
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: you're denying them something, but honestly, you're protecting yourself and

596
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you're kind of protecting them,

597
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: you know, because it can, like I said, it can

598
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 2: spiral out where like your empathy is now causing you

599
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: to just to what do you call it, resent, people

600
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: like Oh, this motherfucker coming around that It just burned

601
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: me out so much. And they might not be doing

602
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: anything wrong, you know what I mean, but they you know,

603
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: you can feel the need in them, you can feel

604
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: the insecurity, you can feel the longing in them, and

605
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: then you want to fill that gap and now you're

606
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: burning the fuck out. They never even asked you to

607
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: do that, you know what I'm saying. So a lot

608
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: of that stuff was what I learned. What I learned,

609
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: but like it was from like reading that gave me

610
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: the knowledge to be like, oh, other people have felt

611
00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: these things, They've been through this stuff, and and I

612
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: think the hardest thing right now is that everybody wants

613
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: to say their EmPATH. Everybody is now like, this's almost

614
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: like the end thing to do. I'm an EmPATH, And

615
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: then they use it to justify horrible behaviors towards other people.

616
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: And I know it's not true because the impath shit

617
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: is not convenient. I don't really wish it on other

618
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: people off because of that, because there's times when y'all

619
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: hear it on the show where I'm reading some horrible

620
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: things somebody did or some like, you know, something that

621
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: people just don't like in general, like some celebrity, and

622
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: I can't help myself. I feel a bit to be like, well,

623
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: what were they thinking? Well, how did they get here?

624
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: What happened to make them think this is okay? When

625
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: someone else would kind of really be able to easily

626
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: just write it off, like fuck Kim Kardashian, I'd be like, well,

627
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: she is trying to do this, and maybe you know her,

628
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: the way her life is set up. It's like that,

629
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: and it's annoying to a lot of people, but to me,

630
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: I can't stop it, which is how I know a

631
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: lot of people be bullshit, and when they're like, I'm

632
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: such an impath and it's like you just said killed

633
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: this person because they said something on Twitter you didn't like.

634
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: That's notment. Yeah, like someone hurts you when you couldn't

635
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: even conceive of how they got to where they were. No,

636
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: you're not an EmPATH, and that's okay. Everybody shouldn't have to.

637
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: Be one, agreed.

638
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: So that's how I felt. But thanks for asking. Uh.

639
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: The poll was, do you look forward to Monday task

640
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: like going to the grocery store and doing laundry now? Yes?

641
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: Or no?

642
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: I like going to the grocery store.

643
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course I do out the laundry for

644
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: the most part, unless you specifically pulled something apart for

645
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: yourself with your mind's I ran your clothes again today,

646
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: thank you.

647
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: I thought about that. I forgot about.

648
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: Them, No problem, I got you.

649
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 4: Thank you.

650
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how you want a drive now, so.

651
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna hangle up some of them.

652
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: I'll let you do that. Yes, going to the grocery store,

653
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: I already was doing laundry, so that's not really a

654
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: look forward to type of thing for me.

655
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: And I don't do the thing where people are like.

656
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: Once a week on Sunday. Like if it's fucking dirty

657
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: clothes on Tuesday, guess what's happening laundry on Tuesday. So

658
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: it's not a big event, but I do look forward

659
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 2: the little shit now going out to grab some takeout,

660
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: going to get some ice cream, getting somebody. Yeah, I

661
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: look forward to that hour before. But now it's like

662
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 2: a special vacation. It's like everything is a thirty minute vacation.

663
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 2: Yes it is, Lakita says, trying to understand how Christians

664
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: are some of the worst slash throat off people. I

665
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: always come back to say it to say that if

666
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 2: Je's were alive today, he would change his last name

667
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: and not affiliate with today's called Christians. That's just a lot.

668
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: That would be hilarious.

669
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: That's just sound like a comedy show, right, like.

670
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: It's Jesus Christ. He'd be like, y'all don't even y'all

671
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: don't know me, keep moving. I ain't got nothing to say.

672
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: We just wanted to come and get your opinion. We

673
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: over here trying to protest women getting abortions and the

674
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: right to choose.

675
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 3: Just leave me alone.

676
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 5: He wouldn't change his name into something like Jesus, Jesus

677
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 5: of Natheris.

678
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 4: Or something like that. But like, but you changing your

679
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 4: name is just anotherist.

680
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 5: But yes, I'm not Jesus Christ, but your name is

681
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 5: Jesus anotherist.

682
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 2: The artist formally known is Jesus Christ.

683
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 4: Because yes, the artist formally known.

684
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: I don't want these problems, y'all been representing the brand

685
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 2: real fucked up lately.

686
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 3: Episode three.

687
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 5: I could imagine him like going out and doing shit

688
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden his like his DMS.

689
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: We would just be full of for people. You'd be like, y'all,

690
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: I am Jesus of Natherists. Yes, Jesus, Jesus Christ. No, no, no,

691
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: I'm not the same Jesus. I'm a different Jesus.

692
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just go by JC.

693
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, Jac, Yellow Time, Yellow Time. That was our episode.

694
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: We had Corey Glover on this when we first started

695
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: dealing with technical issues. Yes, man, we miss verned, but

696
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: hopefully next week he'll be all. We had three comments.

697
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: Prof Cord says Karen was assistant. Maybe that's where I

698
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: fucked up. Lol, Yeah, that's where I fucked up. I was, y'all.

699
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 4: I was trying.

700
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: I know. That's why I'm not blaming you.

701
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: That's all me. That's on you.

702
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 2: That's on me, because I literally remember watching you pour

703
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 2: that cord out, and subconsciously something in my mind said,

704
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: she pulled that from further down than I thought she would.

705
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: But it didn't click. It just didn't click until I

706
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: looked at the back of it for myself and was like, right,

707
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: because remember two and a half hours ago when you

708
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: thought she pulled that chord from kind of a weird place,

709
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: because it isn't a weird place.

710
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 4: Right, that's what I thought.

711
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 2: I thought, Well, I pulled it out, and I think

712
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: I only subconsciously made a note of that is because

713
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: the first time I hooked up this computer, I remember

714
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: thinking like, so this shit is broke, and then oh

715
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: the cords down here, which which once again took me

716
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: way too long to remember.

717
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: So it was this is such an odd spot, y'all.

718
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, b touched that fun episode. Corey Glover is

719
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: always a great guest about those Boondocks episodes.

720
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: The beet Ones There's.

721
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: Two definitely did not air at the time because Viacom

722
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: threatened to sue that Tyler Perry Win though did air

723
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: at first. I saw it live and Lily passed out

724
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: from lavin yup. I had it on my DVR. I

725
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: remember watching that shit like whoo, and then I never

726
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: saw it again. They did pull it afterwards, however, because

727
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: I heard from more than one source that Tyler sped up.

728
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: I seventy five slash eighty five early that next morning,

729
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: and if you spent enough time in Atlanta, you know

730
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: this is a superhuman feat and showed up at the

731
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: Turner complex in midtime.

732
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: Atlanta heit it and read them the Riot Act.

733
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: All his shows were on TBS owned by Turner, just

734
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: like cartoon networking adults swim at the time. Within two

735
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: years or so, they were all on on coincidence. Damn,

736
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: I didn't even know the backstory like that. I assume

737
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: you would be mad. Though. I also heard at the

738
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: time Tyler Perry fired a few people he thought may

739
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: elite inside of information about how it's organization work that

740
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: were rather accurately pariod parodied in the Boondocks episode.

741
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: I've heard this story before.

742
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't until much later he learned that it was

743
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: Gary Anthony Williams, the voice of Uncle Ruckus, who told

744
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: Yep yep. And Gary Anthony Williams also was good in

745
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: Ninja Turtles as rock Steady. H. He apparently been casting

746
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry production and lost that job because he caught

747
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: on He was caught on camera Igland the Ladies, just

748
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: like Granddad was in the episode Wow the Levels. Right. Also,

749
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: it's funny that he was the hero to us because

750
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: everybody was like, I hate Tyler Perry, but at the

751
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: same time, like this nigga got fired because he was

752
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: making women that comfortable on the set, which is like,

753
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: is he a hero really? I mean allegedly allegedly agen.

754
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: He says, always good to have Corey on the show.

755
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: Love that he's such a fan and gets into all

756
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: the segments and sings the songs.

757
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite guests, was as.

758
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 2: Well, Hm, he can actually sing like us. Yeah, unlike

759
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: what we do to even call it the same thing,

760
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: it's sort of an it's to him right.

761
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 5: Uh.

762
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: The pole is which one you try and rid? His

763
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: rain Red Velvet Cheesecake, Thick and Thieves, pecan pie, Uncle

764
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: Charles Brown, Sugar bourbon cake, porch like peach cobbler, slap

765
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 2: Yo Mama Banana pudding, Punis caramel pound cake, or Grandma

766
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 2: Gg's Sweet Potato can, Red velvet cheesecake.

767
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 4: I love me.

768
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: Wow, can you suss that out? Thirty five per cent

769
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: of the audience said Ray right, his Ray red velvet cheesecake.

770
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: That's the vast majority. Thieves hard to find A good

771
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: One second was thick as thieves. Pe Can pie and

772
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: Uncle Charles Brown sugar bourbon cake both came in with

773
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 2: nineteen percent. Now that brown sugar bourbon cake do sound good?

774
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: Porch like peach cobbler only eight percent? And I think

775
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: it's because I don't think I don't like peaches of

776
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: ice cream. Now a warm slice of peach cobbler with

777
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 2: a a fucking scoop of vanilla ice cream on the top. Now, listen,

778
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be racist, but when it comes

779
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: to my ice cream, uh, my tongue is a KKK man,

780
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna put I'm put vanilla on any type

781
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: of pie that's like, I don't I don't debble with

782
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: the Devil's chocolate on that one.

783
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: Okay, it's straight white for me.

784
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: It might as well be black dot com. When it's

785
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: time to cream.

786
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 4: All I wanted, I want it all white, all white.

787
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: It's gonna be an interracial scene. If you know what

788
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: I'm saying, that's fucked up. Porn is only interracial when

789
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: it's a black person and a white person.

790
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: It's never interracial.

791
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: Else they don't care. We don't care about the rest

792
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: of them. Yeah, anyway, everybody's just regular sex.

793
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: Right, everyone else just has sex. But you have interracial sex.

794
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 5: With blacks like the rest is interacial sex to it

795
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 5: ain't all right.

796
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: Slap your mama. Banana pudding, that's the one I think

797
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: I would try because of the name. But I'm thinking

798
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: y'all are right with the flavors that cheesecake and pecan

799
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: pine and bourbon cake are better, But that name, I

800
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: just want to take like a picture with it, you

801
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like slap your mama, Haha, Aunt poons,

802
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: caramel pound cake, grandma gig sweet potato.

803
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 3: Those came in with.

804
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: So put peach cobbler, banana put in eight percent and

805
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: so is camel poundcake eight percent, sweet potato three three percent. Wow.

806
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: I didn't see it coming. I would have never said

807
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: black people put sweet potato last. I'm a little hurt,

808
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: but something had to be last, I guess. Danielle d says,

809
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: Oh my god, can I have all of them? It

810
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: took me twenty minutes, but I finally picked caramel pound cake.

811
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: But that banana pudding was colling me. Oh, but the

812
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: sweet potato patho. I was really trying to at least

813
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: lose five pounds for the summer. Well that's gone. Eve says,

814
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: I want them all.

815
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: Well, we all want them all. That's why they had

816
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 3: to make you pick.

817
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 2: And the last episode was twenty three twenty stop arguing

818
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 2: with racist online. Uh, this is when we started to

819
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: have Michael Smith and then the power outage. I was like,

820
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: fuck that Lotus flowers. Lotus Flower says Karen. Do you

821
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: secretly have children?

822
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 4: Mm hmm care No.

823
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: I time for you to be honest with me.

824
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: I don't have kids, because.

825
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: If I find out you got some secret kids on

826
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: the side, I'm gonna be very upset.

827
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: But if you tell me right now, I promise.

828
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: Not to be too mad.

829
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 4: I don't have children.

830
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: All right. That was your chance. Every time you and

831
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 2: Rod cover story about a child, your protective mama energy

832
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: comes out. I was sitting here nod in my head

833
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: and agree with you. If a teacher cuts my child's

834
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: had school, they will be seeing me daily until that

835
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: teacher is gone. Just from my experience, people with our

836
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: children don't seem nearly as bothered as when something like

837
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: this happens. So I appreciate the energy.

838
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 4: No, No, I don't. I don't have children.

839
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 5: My niece is the closest thing that I've had to

840
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 5: a child that I've actually seen, like go through all

841
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 5: the states, just growing up.

842
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 4: And I remember.

843
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 5: I was with later when she was a small run.

844
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 5: I had picked her up from I wean't say, daycare

845
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: and me and her was riding and I was on

846
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 5: the driver's side and she was like the opposite side.

847
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 5: I could just turn around and look at her and uh,

848
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 5: she was in her car seat and.

849
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 4: Her windows rolled up.

850
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 5: But some dude kind of walked up, you know, to

851
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 5: her side of the car while we was at like

852
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 5: a light, and I don't know if he was passing

853
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 5: or whatever, but he just got too close for my comfort.

854
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 5: And I was like, I don't know what he about

855
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 5: to do, but it is about to be like am

856
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 5: I gonna have to run him over?

857
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: Like I don't know.

858
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 5: All I know was that it was like that protection

859
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 5: kind of jumped out at me, you know, going you know,

860
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 5: it's Cameron gonna have to choke a bitch, you know,

861
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 5: because it's one of those things where I was like, yeah,

862
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 5: I will do whatever it takes to protect her.

863
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 4: Because when it comes to children, Twidge.

864
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 5: Didn't ask to be here, and children are innocent, you know,

865
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 5: not that they don't do things wrong, but you know

866
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, for a certain situations, it's like, hey,

867
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 5: it's my job as the adult in the situation to

868
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 5: protect them, you know, to the best of my knowledge.

869
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 5: And I've grown and learned, you know, about children and

870
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 5: understanding children more. But yeah, I think a lot of

871
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 5: people have a misconception of people that don't have children,

872
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 5: like we just go fuck them kids. Yeah, sometimes it

873
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 5: is fuck them kids, don't get me wrong, But it

874
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 5: does not mean we don't have a heart and love

875
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 5: for children.

876
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's weird because I've been told that a lot

877
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: to people often be like you have been you would

878
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: be a good dad and all this stuff, because I

879
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: fight so hard for children to be children. Yes, and

880
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: also because I'm extremely patient, So I get that a

881
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: lot too, where people are like either assume I have

882
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: kids or just I would be great at having kids

883
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: because and I'm you know, there's been a few times

884
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: where like on this show, the audience has been some

885
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: of the audience has been very upset with my take

886
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: on shit, Like.

887
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: When now, don't y'all feel silly?

888
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: But when Northwest was crying at that fucking fashion show

889
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: and they were just, you know, going so hard, and

890
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: I was like, y'all are fucking tripping. It's a baby, right,

891
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: it was? You know, anytime we covered something about like

892
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: a kid running, not running around store, but like crying

893
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: or being disruptive in the store or something, and there's

894
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: like an article about it, and I'll be like, we've

895
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: been around places where that's happened. I don't get mad

896
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: because it's a kid, right, It's a child, Like I did.

897
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: We didn't not have kids because we hate children, you

898
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean. But I don't know if that's

899
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: just like a misperception people have for people without children

900
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: or what, or I don't I don't know where it

901
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 2: comes from.

902
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 5: But it's almost like, since you opted not to have children,

903
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 5: you I just a heartless bastard and.

904
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 4: That's not true.

905
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 3: Or you selfish is another one they throw around.

906
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 5: You get my ass with that selfish? What selfish? Just

907
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 5: having him and not taking care of him. Now that

908
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 5: selfish you can't be selfish was something that does not exist.

909
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: Right So, but even he says, my life became a

910
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: lot stressed, a lot less stressful when I stop engaging

911
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 2: people online who actively embrace ignorance. Yep, you gotta do it, man.

912
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: You know, I had the inferend of the dude that

913
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: was an antip v accent. Man, I know the dude.

914
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: I thought he was.

915
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: Pretty cool, But that's crazy. That's too far from me.

916
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: And I'm definitely not going to engage him and try

917
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: to save him and talk to him like no, just

918
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: by you know what I mean. Half the time if

919
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: I and the only time I normally even talk to

920
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 2: people online is if one I know them and we're

921
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: cool and we can have a discussion that's where we're

922
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: disagreeing or whatever and it's not turning like too venomous.

923
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: I'll do that if I really respect you, and I've

924
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: always felt that way. My engagement with you is a

925
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: sign of respect and investment. I don't. I do not

926
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: engage with people for no reason. And if and if

927
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 2: I'm giving you that olive branch and you don't want

928
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: it cool, I just don't fuck with you.

929
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 4: No, more.

930
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: And then the other way I would do it is

931
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 2: if I can just make a quick joke or something,

932
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: if something is funny, like so today somebody said you're

933
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: not a brove reproach and I responded, oh, I'm above approach,

934
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: and watch me show you how much you know, and

935
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: then I just muted.

936
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: Them or whatever, like to me, that's funny.

937
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: It took a second to think, and someone reading that

938
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: more than likely will just laugh and rid just being silly. Again.

939
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: I don't mind that, But if it's going to turn

940
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: into like a fight where they think I'm about to

941
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: be going back and forth and trying to, like right

942
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: reason with them, I'm not doing that shit.

943
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 5: I don't have the time or the energy my time.

944
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 5: The older you get, the more you realize that you're closer,

945
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 5: you're closer to death, and the more you realize my

946
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 5: time is precious. And fussing and arguing with people people

947
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 5: do that shit in their twenties and shit, and some

948
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 5: in the thirties. You cross the line where you go, oh, bitch,

949
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 5: I'm not arguing with you, okay, and you just walk

950
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 5: away and turn around.

951
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 4: It ain't fight me, fight me, fight me. You're like, bitch,

952
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 4: I'm not fighting you.

953
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: And like that the same thing I said on this

954
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: show that you listen to the audience listen to it.

955
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure most people that heard me talk about it

956
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: were like, I understand where Ri's coming from. When I

957
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: talked about prison abolition, police abolition, defund the police, and

958
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: not voting, not really making sense to not like they

959
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: kind of have to go together, even if you know

960
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: you're not going to accomplish one of them without voting,

961
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: right A person so like I said that on Twitter

962
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: in a thread. It went a little.

963
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 3: Bit viral, not huge.

964
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: Some person that claims to be an abolitionist was responding

965
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: to it and was like, you know, Democrats fund the

966
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 2: police too, with shitting and you know whatever. And at

967
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: some point I just was like, Okay, I'm gonna do

968
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: the same thing Republicans do to ya, not voting, as

969
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ignore you.

970
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: How powerful do you feel now?

971
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: Right? Because the only thing that was helping you in

972
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: this situation was the fact I was willing to talk

973
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 2: to you. And when someone's not willing to talk to you,

974
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 2: you don't fucking exist anymore because you don't you don't vote,

975
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: you don't invest in all you do is get mad

976
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: about shit, and you're gonna be mad either way. So

977
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: why the fuck would I care, Like, like, do you

978
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: still feel strong you know or whatever? Because you only

979
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: felt strong when I gave you the illusion of strength

980
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: by giving you a little bit of my attention. I

981
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: take my attention away. Now you nobody again.

982
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 4: Come on.

983
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 2: So, so it was that kind of thing that I

984
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: think I might in good faith do something like that

985
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: with a person. But once again, not that's a rare occurrence.

986
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it every day. I wouldn't do it

987
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: with most people, you know what I mean, It's just

988
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: not worth it. And and that's not even a racist.

989
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: If it was a racist person, I just don't even

990
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: fuck with them period. I don't even like to either

991
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: quote tweet or unless I unless, Yeah, it's just very rare.

992
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 2: You're gonna see me like lifting up somebody to help

993
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: kind of helping them, like here's canvas owns. Let me

994
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: retweet on the timeline so I can get these jokes.

995
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: It's like, what would be the point She's she's never

996
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: gonna come around as no incentives.

997
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 4: What's the point.

998
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 2: Uh? But yeah, the poe do you argue with racist online,

999
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: yes a lot, sometimes or not really, Karen, No, never,

1000
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: not really. That's eighty five percent of the audience doesn't

1001
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, I think also because we have an

1002
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: older audience, you know, I got shit to do.

1003
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 5: The funk I'm arguing with you thought I only argue

1004
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 5: with with with family in real life.

1005
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: Thirteen percent say sometimes and two percent say a lot.

1006
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: Lakita said sometimes I love trolling them because fuck them.

1007
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: But now that I work for a social media company,

1008
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: I find myself wanted to trow or argue because fuck them.

1009
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: So the line started to blur for me between work

1010
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: and personal and I got to keep my job, so

1011
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: I restrain myself much more, but I still get the

1012
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: urge to tell them shut the fuck up.

1013
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: It's hard.

1014
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: Well, it is hard, man, because it's that dopamine fix,

1015
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: it's that rush, it's the performance. You know. These are

1016
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 2: the things I had to reckon with for myself. So

1017
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: I'm not telling y'all nothing like I'm looking down at you.

1018
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: This was me too. I was like, why the fuck

1019
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: am I going back and forth and I would be

1020
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: feeling rewarded. A good one for me was when I

1021
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: said black ben or the white people are black people.

1022
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: And while I still understand now Joab thinking of our

1023
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 2: privilege still stands, I understand some people just hate that phrasing,

1024
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: and that's fine. I get it. If I was to

1025
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: say it to day, I wouldn't say it that way,

1026
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: just because my goal is always to be understood, not

1027
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: to throw a bomb in the room and leave. But

1028
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people took a fix to a lot

1029
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: of people were hotels, were like spreading it around and

1030
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: showing it on social media and making YouTube videos about me.

1031
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: Someone left a comment on a picture of me and

1032
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,479
Speaker 2: my niece on my Instagram page, which where I didn't

1033
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: even say this had nothing to do with anything, and

1034
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: it was. It made me very angry because I'm a

1035
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: fighter by nature, and I remember that in this deluge

1036
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: of thousands of people mentioning me and saying shit to me,

1037
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 2: I remember reading each response and my post quickening, my throat, tightening,

1038
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: my fight or flight instinct kicking in. And all I'm

1039
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: doing is looking at my phone or looking at a computer,

1040
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: and I'm typing, you know, back to each of these people,

1041
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: and I'm making jokes about them, and I'm you know,

1042
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: ruely deriding them or pointing out the flaws and their

1043
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: logic and their arguments, and much of it dismissive, condescending, much.

1044
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 3: Of it, a lot of it.

1045
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 2: I didn't really respect the way they came to me,

1046
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: so then they didn't respect me back, and so it

1047
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: just you know, and I am good at making jokes

1048
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: and making people look dumb, but if I'm honest, it

1049
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: wasn't healthy for me mentally. It's like fighting it tidle wave, yeah,

1050
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 2: and then you start to feel like everything's a fight,

1051
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: and you start to feel like anyone that doesn't understand.

1052
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: What you say implicitly is a bad person.

1053
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: That's why a lot of the stuff you see what

1054
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: the abolitionists online and the Marxists and the socialists and

1055
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: this and that, a lot of that is they spend

1056
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: all day doing that, and so they don't understand the

1057
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: difference between Like if they came to a black community

1058
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: meeting and they started talking the way they talk on Twitter,

1059
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: most of the people will get up and walk the

1060
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: fuck out of that room and be like these niggas

1061
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 2: are crazy, right, Like they just walked in the room

1062
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 2: and told us we don't need no police. All right, Well,

1063
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: I gotta go. I was robbed last week, and I

1064
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 2: absolutely do want my fucking stuff back, so good luck,

1065
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you want to, but

1066
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: but if you surround yourself online, you're constantly fighting. You know,

1067
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 2: even a person that replied to me today, they go

1068
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: looking for that kind of shit so they can be like,

1069
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: I'm an abolitionist, bitch, cause you're just online being an

1070
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: abolitionist online on Twitter. That's your job to be on

1071
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: Twitter saying you're an abolitionist. That's your You don't have

1072
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: another thing you do. So I remember feeling that way,

1073
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: Bernie so Black, I remember feeling that way, and at

1074
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: the time I just couldn't see it. I would be like,

1075
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: I'm fine, you know, I what whatever, I'm making jokes,

1076
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: it's all jokes to me or whatever. But I'll started

1077
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: to be like, no taking a toll on me. And

1078
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: it's also just a huge waste of time because it's

1079
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: not like these people were coming around on my point

1080
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: of Oh I didn't understand, but now I'll see what

1081
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: you're saying like that. Their goal wasn't wasn't to do that,

1082
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: and my goal wasn't. At that point, my goal was

1083
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: no longer to be understood. It was to mock the

1084
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: people that were coming at me. So I think that's

1085
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: what happens when you just constantly arguing with these folks

1086
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: and it turns everything into a argument. It turns offline

1087
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: life into you with me against me, It turns all

1088
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: that and it's like, that's not healthy for me.

1089
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 4: No, it's not.

1090
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 5: And a lot of people don't realize that the family

1091
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 5: and that friends around them are being in fact impacted

1092
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 5: by these conversations that they've had online. A lot of

1093
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 5: this negativity online if you're not aware in anybody, don't

1094
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 5: care who you are, anybody underneath the side of my

1095
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 5: voice can be swept up in it. Because a lot

1096
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 5: of people that don't understand and himing and hawing and.

1097
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: Act like we're crazy when we talk about this shit,

1098
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: you are actually involved because when you're in the midst

1099
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: of it, you can't see the forest for the trees.

1100
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 4: And a lot of times.

1101
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 5: The social media makes you feel justification in your action.

1102
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 5: It doesn't tell you that you're not right. It doesn't

1103
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 5: tell you this is impacting your mental health. It doesn't

1104
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 5: tell you this is impacting your films and family. It

1105
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 5: doesn't tell you that you're short tempered with everybody around

1106
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 5: you now because constantly and fight a flight.

1107
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 4: It's not going to stop that.

1108
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 5: The purpose of social media is to keep you on

1109
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 5: that bitch. It doesn't care about anything beyond that point.

1110
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 5: It does not care if it damages real life friendships.

1111
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 5: It doesn't care if it destroys your family. It does

1112
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 5: not care.

1113
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: It doesn't care if you come on their crying, happy, sad, depressed.

1114
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 4: It doesn't care. It does not care.

1115
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't even care, but sees your death on it,

1116
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 2: It does not care. The whole purpose is to keep

1117
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,959
Speaker 2: your ass on there from life to death.

1118
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 4: That's the whole purpose of it.

1119
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 5: And once you understand that concept, you need to navigate

1120
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 5: it accordingly and to navigate it in a very very

1121
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 5: healthy manner. And whatever your rules and regulations are, you

1122
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 5: have to set them. But the thing is, when most

1123
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 5: of us got on social media, in the way social

1124
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 5: media is evolved, we had to learn these boundaries.

1125
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: Nobody knew what the boundaries were. Nobody knew what the

1126
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: rules were.

1127
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 5: Nobody knew that that Twitter and Facebook, Instagram and shit

1128
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 5: was going to turn into what it turned into. Nobody

1129
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 5: knew that at the time. Nobody knew the mental capacity

1130
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 5: was gonna have. Nobody knew that it was gonna make

1131
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 5: people mean its hell. Nobody knew it was gonna make

1132
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 5: people savages. Nobody knew it was you know, it was

1133
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 5: gonna be a place for white rings and hoteps.

1134
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 4: Nobody knew it was going to turn into this. But

1135
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 4: it is what it is now.

1136
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 5: So now you have to adjust and you need to

1137
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 5: navigate accordingly, and sometimes I mean ton of that bitch off.

1138
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: Sometimes it means standing.

1139
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 5: On for days, and for some people it means getting

1140
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 5: off social media altogether, which people.

1141
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: Don't understand it. But for some people that is an option.

1142
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 5: I need to leave social media because it's not healthy

1143
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 5: for me to each its own and so for me,

1144
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 5: I think that a lot of people they don't understand

1145
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 5: that anybody can get trapped in that whirlwind, because literally,

1146
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 5: if you're not aware of it, social media can drown you.

1147
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: It can leally drown you. And a lot of times

1148
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 5: you're either the person being drowned or you're a part.

1149
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 4: Of the water.

1150
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 5: You're in one of these two groups, and it's hard

1151
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 5: for people to understand you're either drowning trying to understand

1152
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 5: why can't you push this fucking tide a way back,

1153
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 5: or you're a part of the water, washing people away

1154
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 5: and getting get site from watching them drown and die

1155
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 5: before your eyes in.

1156
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 4: Various different ways.

1157
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 5: Because the thing is, nobody wants to think that they're

1158
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 5: a part of the problem.

1159
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 4: When you tag people your old raggedy bit, your hole.

1160
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 5: When you do that, you are putting things out in

1161
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 5: the atmosphere, you know, And I understand people gonna do things.

1162
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 5: And I'm here for the joke because I'm not saying

1163
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 5: we can't have jokes and we can't be people and

1164
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 5: all that.

1165
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that at all.

1166
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 5: But for some people, it's just fucking mean spirit, mean spirit,

1167
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 5: mean spirited, and you know, sometimes people treat that as

1168
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 5: justification for their whack ass opinions and shit like that.

1169
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,479
Speaker 2: I'm just keeping it real. No, you're just being mean, bitch.

1170
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: You just being mean, just being.

1171
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 4: Cruel, You're just being ugly, You're just being nasty.

1172
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 5: And instead of saying there's something wrong with me, what

1173
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 5: is it happening outside of my life that I'm putting

1174
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 5: out here on social media?

1175
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 4: Is it the COVID? Is it my family? Is it

1176
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 4: my friends and my depressed Am I going to do

1177
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 4: a divorce.

1178
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 5: What is happening outside of social media that I'm wrapping

1179
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 5: into social media, And I'm justifying my nastness on social

1180
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 5: media because I don't want to rest the real shit

1181
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 5: that would actually solve the problem, which actually would pull

1182
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 5: me off of social media if I was trying to

1183
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 5: fix myself. But nobody actually wants to talk about that

1184
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 5: once it comes down to it, and all social media

1185
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 5: doesn't amplify what's inside of you on these platforms, that's

1186
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 5: all it does.

1187
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: It just amplifies who you actually already are.

1188
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't agree more that where else at.

1189
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: All? Right, let's get to the voicemail. We had one

1190
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: voicemail seven O four five five seven zero one A

1191
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: six is the voicemail line is in the show notes.

1192
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 4: Hey Karen and Rod, it's your girl falcon feva. I

1193
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 4: really just want anything.

1194
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: But with all the technical difficulties you guys have had

1195
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: this week, and because you hadn't had any voicemails, I

1196
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: decided to call to check to see if the voicemail

1197
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: is working. And other than that, just to let you

1198
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: guys know that I love you and you guys were

1199
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: chanced this week with all the technical difficulties. Keep up

1200
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 2: the good work.

1201
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, thank you.

1202
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: Well, at least we know it is working. We appreciate

1203
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 3: you putting it to good use. And yeah, definitely.

1204
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 5: Because it was having some technical difficulty where it was like,

1205
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 5: you know, you call that shit. It was like the

1206
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 5: number you have calling callings is having technical difficulties.

1207
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, thank you, We appreciate it.

1208
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: Listeners are so fun and uh yeah, man, it was

1209
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: a stressful week with the technical difficulties. But you know,

1210
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we're still very privileged

1211
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: to do what we do for a living. And nothing,

1212
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: nothing irreplaceable happened, nothing that we can't hopefully, you know,

1213
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: get Mike back next week, get Corey and Verne or

1214
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 2: or just vern which which are however they want to

1215
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: do it, get them back next week and we'll just

1216
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: take it from there. Uh all right, let's get to

1217
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: the emails. So Brian Wright saying, hey, Roy, I hope

1218
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: all as well. If you're interested, is a great article

1219
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: about McDonald's ice cream machines. In case you haven't seen

1220
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 2: this article, you may enjoy the best Brian b And

1221
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: it's uh, they hacked McDonald's ice cream machines and started

1222
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: at cold war and this is this seems very long.

1223
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 4: What kind of cold war?

1224
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. Ice cream machine hacking gadget kitch beginning

1225
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: to gain customers mcdonald'sons franchises, A warning that catch breached

1226
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: the machines, confidential information could cause serious human injury taking

1227
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 2: the couple startups. Oh so was this the people that

1228
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 2: had that startup that tells you when when an ice

1229
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 2: cream machine is up broken or not.

1230
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 4: That's prob a why the ship was so accurate.

1231
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't know. I might read this.

1232
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I had one couple build of device to

1233
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: fix McDonald's notoriously broken soft serve machines.

1234
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 3: Our fast food giant froze them out.

1235
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. Some white people shit, but uh, you know,

1236
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: good for them, no offense.

1237
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 3: Versus.

1238
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: Russell Wright said, I'm so glad I'm not the only

1239
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: one that enjoyed Steve Harvey hosting. Versus. I was hollering,

1240
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: laughing when this food started throwing pillows when one of

1241
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: them songs came on, Yese it was so good my parents.

1242
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 3: I showed them.

1243
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: Versus the Izi brothers in Earth Wind and Fire yesterday

1244
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: they had.

1245
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 3: A body too, not complaining, just here, want to put

1246
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 3: it there.

1247
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: D Wright said, Hey, guys, much love to all the

1248
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,919
Speaker 2: people who do and who did and still are doing

1249
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 2: what was advised in the pandemic. Stay at home if

1250
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: you were not non essential, of course, or it could

1251
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: work from home and your job supported that, which is wonderful.

1252
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: But for all the essential workers, we didn't have the

1253
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: same exciting feelings of going to the grocery store doing

1254
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 2: laundry like the others. Right when it comes to like

1255
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: are you looking forward to going to the store, it's

1256
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 2: probably like, nah, nigga, I've been out and risking my

1257
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: life all day. Actually, until halfway into the beginning of COVID,

1258
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: going to those places was exhausted in and thought experience

1259
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: due to the limits that was needed six feet apart

1260
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: and only a few in the store at the time.

1261
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: But it was not until they put in a place

1262
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 2: first respond to showing id's to get it, and that

1263
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: it became better, or at least for me being a nurse.

1264
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 2: Imagine working over twelve hours all up in the rona

1265
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: and on your day off, having a wait in line

1266
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: hours just to get in the hardly get any of

1267
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: the stuff you needed when you finally ended the store

1268
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 2: tissue paper. Lol. On the positive side, the commuter work

1269
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: was faster because less cars on the road and local

1270
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: businesses donate food, which got us fat, shaking my head,

1271
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: stress eating.

1272
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 3: The nurses are not summer ready. Check on us.

1273
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 2: We are not, okay, Yeah, I would imagine because everybody's

1274
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: like their heroes. It's like Chris ba Kreme and say

1275
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: you're a hero. Jersey and Mike say you are heroes.

1276
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: Hero It's like, well, now I'm a hero, but there's

1277
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: a lot more hero to worship.

1278
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 3: Okay, come on.

1279
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 2: I just want people to know that if we get

1280
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: clear from wearing the mask, it will be the first responders,

1281
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: the nurses that will continue the treatment in the athamatic

1282
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: COVID for years, really decades to follow. I know my

1283
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: fellow nurses feel me when I say I will never

1284
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: forget the things. I've seen it in door and loved

1285
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: them for being a part of the team. We lost

1286
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: peace people and we missed them ps. Yeah, a lot

1287
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: of people, just like I said, that's just so callous

1288
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: when they talk about the depths. Is this abstract number

1289
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: and shit, and it's like a lot of those were

1290
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 2: frontline workers. We talk about black people being on like

1291
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 2: black black people was on the front lines too. Ps. Also,

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Speaker 2: a majority of first responders didn't qualify for the stimulus checks.

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01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 2: No hazard pay really know anything except warn regards from

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Speaker 2: the community, with which includes some government officials, which were appreciated,

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01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: which were appreciated. I guess we appreciate it, but I

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Speaker 2: was at least looking forward to getting the student loan payoff.

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Speaker 2: I know this is a long email. Sorry, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Dan Yelle d Well, does no need apologize?

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Speaker 2: Will you need to say you didn't get the stimulus?

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Speaker 2: Y'all all make over one hundred and forty or whatever

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01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 2: it was before you start. I think it was like

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01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: for couples two hundred and some thousand before they started

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01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: leveling off. Like I didn't know y'all was getting it

1304
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: like that. If so, I mean, congrats on that. But

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01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 2: I thought y'a would have got some of the stemmy Rokillia.

1306
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: I think that's her name, says uh oh, she's okay.

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01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I catch up on Thursdays and Fridays because

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01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: when I try to listen to the workday, I missed stuff.

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Speaker 3: Podcasts in accounting, don't mix.

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01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 2: I feel you.

1311
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 3: I had to laugh when you started talking about laundry.

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01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: I hate doing laundry.

1313
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 3: It's mainly the folding part.

1314
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: I would buy clothes so I could put off doing

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01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 2: laundry even longer. That was sustainable, So I started sending

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01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: my laundry out. Don't judge me. At the ending of

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01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: the Panacea, my dirty laundry was more respectable. But a

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01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: year into it now now it's bags of yoga pants,

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01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 2: T shirts is sporadically matching socks. I got super dressed

1320
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 2: up to go to Costco and walk Mavis yesterday. Even

1321
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 2: Lows is a dress up occasion these days, I feel you.

1322
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 2: I think the bar has been lowered on what we

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01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: dressed up for. Right these offendal pins.

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Speaker 4: That's get anybody back to work.

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01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 5: D And the thing that was like top sales went up,

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01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 5: but it was like bottom sales went down. And they

1327
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 5: were saying that undergarments went down, particularly Bras.

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01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for the last Anakin's medical med Chlorians. And

1329
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: then she put the pictures of her going out with

1330
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 2: the walker dog like this is dressed up. This is

1331
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: dressed up now, man, you know it is not. We

1332
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: just wearing pajamas to everything.

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Speaker 4: Pants.

1334
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 3: I think I shirt says recipes of Kyle Drogo.

1335
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Speaker 4: Come on, yes, he.

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01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: Was a real one. Okay, the funeral was lit literally,

1337
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: it was lit literally, all right, Mary says, Hi, I

1338
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 2: don't even know what this what showed this referred to,

1339
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: but since the police killing folks has been on the

1340
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: news a lot lately, I guess I could apply to

1341
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 2: all of them. I very much appreciate your practical, pragmatic

1342
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 2: approach to discussing police reform. I work with someone who

1343
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: is considering an expert in this field. By the way,

1344
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: I saw my boss retweeted you this morning. Oh that's

1345
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: probably why that person was in my mentions.

1346
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 3: Man, it's always.

1347
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: When somebody retweets me that I get the problems. Like

1348
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: normally I'll be minding my business and don't nobody give

1349
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: a fuck what I'll be talking about.

1350
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 3: And then it's always like, you know, you can.

1351
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: Tell which teete givers get retweeted by people that other

1352
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 2: folks follow, but only hate follow, so then they haters

1353
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: are on you like this, nigga, I.

1354
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 3: Hate you, and it's like, what happened?

1355
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: Oh they retweeted that? I like, uh thin Mints, And

1356
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 2: now some motherfucker is telling me that I must want

1357
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 2: the for profit prison system to continue, right, well, all

1358
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: lives matter to me. I'm like I just said, I

1359
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: like Tha Mints, and the reason I wanted to work

1360
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 2: with him is because he had a tangible solutions based

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01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 2: on data. The solutions are born boring, like submit public

1362
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 2: comment to your city council, call your local officials, look

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01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 2: at police union contracts and those legislations, et cetera.

1364
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 3: This isn't a comprehensive list.

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01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: And there's room to protest and getting the word out

1366
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: for protests and getting the word out. But these social

1367
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 2: media activists screaming to bolish the police about abolition is

1368
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 2: the only solution make me crazy. How the fuck are

1369
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 2: you gonna get to abolish when we have to we

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 2: have to have when they have to have a nine

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01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 2: minute video of a policeman killing someone to convict them,

1372
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: they'll use that word terminology. I swear if I hear

1373
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 2: the word colonize or one more time, I'll lose my mind. Anyway,

1374
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, yeah, and the thing that bothers me

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01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 2: to is is not enough for them to say. Okay,

1376
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 2: Mary asks a question of how we're gonna get there.

1377
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: Here's the answer. They have to then be like Mary's

1378
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 2: an op. Mary is with the police married what you

1379
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: love police.

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Speaker 4: It's like, so they cannot just if I not answer

1381
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:52,440
Speaker 4: the question.

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01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 3: It's like, why do you have to jump to this

1383
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 3: straw man shit?

1384
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: If you're pointing so righteous and solid, you should be

1385
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 2: able to just say, this is what we're thinking. And

1386
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 2: also it's okay to say I don't know. Now. What

1387
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: happens is when you say I don't know, many of

1388
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: us are gonna say, cool, let me know what you

1389
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 2: do until then, I'm gonna work on something differently than

1390
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 2: your project.

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01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 5: And that's the interaction part that they don't want to

1393
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 5: let go because they like, if I admit this, this

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01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:21,799
Speaker 5: is the discussion, yes.

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01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,480
Speaker 4: Because why the fuck do we hear otherwise?

1396
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know, that's fool cool.

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01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 4: I don't know, right, I'm quick, but I don't know.

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01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a bunch of shit we talk

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01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: about in this show. I don't know, Well, we I

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01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 2: just talked about fifteen minutes probably about that fucking affinity

1401
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: groups teaching shit. And at the end of the day,

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01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if it worked for some kids.

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01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: It seemed like, Hey, I'm not a teacher. I don't

1404
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: have no kids in the school. Y'all might be on

1405
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 2: some shit. I can't even fucking see you know what

1406
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying. That's okay, cause that ain't my job. I

1407
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: don't need the answers for that. Come. No one's coming

1408
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 2: to me like Rod the school woork Hall. It's tired

1409
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 2: to work trying to figure out infinity groups. But it's

1410
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 2: interesting because I think we can't separate how much posturing

1411
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: and performing online is attached to social media. It's just hard.

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01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 2: It's hard for people to let that go. And then

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01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 2: of course this is the invisible hand. No one thinks

1414
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: they're being gotted by it, no one thinks they're performing,

1415
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: And then you go look at the timeline.

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01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 3: It's just them looking for people to argue.

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01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 2: With about this shit because it's all they do. They

1418
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: don't have another thing. I'd like to argue theories online. Well,

1419
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: it's just a weird type of abolition nerd. You're not

1420
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: really doing any there's no work you're doing around it,

1421
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 2: because there's no work to be done in that way

1422
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: when you're just online fussing at people correct who call

1423
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: that work and it's not anyway when I'm saying, these

1424
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 2: people have no gravitize behind what they're saying.

1425
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 3: They rarely want to do more than post something.

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01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 2: If we could believe a magic wand of a boss

1427
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: police today, what's the plan? They need to read a book,

1428
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: take a look at Cuba. I love that Cuba's revolution,

1429
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 2: but talk about no plan that? Oh yeah, that's true.

1430
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 2: It's always weird too, because everyone that we have such

1431
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: privilege here to abstractly talk about Cuba's revolution, right, and

1432
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: not any of the people that got killed, not any

1433
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 2: of the people who shit got taken, not the people

1434
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: who were exiled. It's just so easy for us to

1435
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: be like they were bad people, all of them. If

1436
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: they got killed, whatever, fuck them, If they lost everything,

1437
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: fuck them, because it didn't happen to me. But I

1438
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: get to say, but look at this socialism, isn't it good?

1439
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that is the most privileged American version

1440
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: of that. As you are admonishing privilege in America and milogy,

1441
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 2: you are still and you are still trapped in it.

1442
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 2: You know, all these people that worship these white people

1443
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 2: that you.

1444
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 3: Know Marx and.

1445
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 2: All this shit like you're still like you're still trapped

1446
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 2: in it. You have a very neat version of this

1447
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: in your head where you know all the answers because

1448
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 2: it's just an abstract test to you. You don't really

1449
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: care about the fallout, you know, and mostly your saying

1450
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 2: answers that you know will never happen, so you'll never

1451
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: be responsible for anything. Hello, you know, it's like to me,

1452
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 2: it's what I feel a lot of white people that

1453
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,799
Speaker 2: talk about socialism are doing. They know we're not gonna

1454
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: get a pure socialism in this country, as if anyone

1455
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 2: really truly has it, but they know we're not gonna

1456
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 2: have it, so then it's their way of opting out. Well,

1457
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 2: we didn't. I didn't see socialism on the ballot, so

1458
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: I'm going home. I'm not voting. Fuck y'all, y'all on

1459
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 2: your own. I'm like, yeah, that's that. Don't mean I

1460
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 2: don't feel like you care more than me. I don't

1461
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: feel like you care more than Reverend James Barber. You know,

1462
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 2: I don't feel like you care more than the people

1463
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: that actually do work try to help.

1464
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 3: I don't believe you anyway.

1465
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: I love that Cuban revolution, but talk about no plan anyways,

1466
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 2: Thanks for letting me vent my annoyance of these overly

1467
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 2: loud work social media activists who ignore the other parts

1468
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 2: of how to affect change, which is not very sexy

1469
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: at all but can have tangible, wise scale impact. And yes,

1470
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm picking aside in these activist streets. I'm teen Dray.

1471
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: I love to show Mary. Yeah, yeah, I mean, like

1472
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 2: I said, man, I really do root for all of them,

1473
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: but I just know you gotta kind of unfortunately, you

1474
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: got to keep everybody at arm's length because of how

1475
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: shit flipped so fast, how volatile people are towards each other,

1476
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: how much of it you don't get to see, you

1477
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Where it's like because people treat

1478
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: them like it's love and hip hop activism, where it's

1479
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 2: like did you see so and so? Is it cool

1480
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 2: with so and so? And now I'm like, well now

1481
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 2: we're talking about Now we're just gossiping about them the

1482
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: same way we would like a reality TV show.

1483
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 3: And that's not really about anyone being free, is it.

1484
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 4: No?

1485
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: You know, at some point that's about you don't like

1486
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: this person or whatever, And everybody has a moment where

1487
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 2: they participate in it because everyone's human, and every one

1488
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: of those activists, I assume, would have somebody as an

1489
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: activist that they don't fuck with, because what job, you know,

1490
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 2: where everybody like everybody? But the need for us or

1491
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 2: the people who are just in the in here as

1492
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 2: what do you call them?

1493
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 3: As observers, as supporters, as.

1494
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 2: Thinkers, whatever the fuck? The need for us to feel

1495
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 2: like I have to back this guy is something I'm

1496
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 2: trying to divorce myself from because it's an ego thing.

1497
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: And then once your ego is attached, you start you

1498
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: find yourself making excuses and arguments or attacks based on

1499
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: who you fuck with and who you don't. And that

1500
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: feels like a very consumerist way to view activism. And

1501
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: I think we I think for myself that that is

1502
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 2: not a good idea, you.

1503
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 3: Know, And I think, like I said, it may be weird.

1504
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 2: I'm still fletching out some ideas on this, but I

1505
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 2: think about that a lot with stuff, and it's changing

1506
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 2: the way I view things.

1507
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 3: For example, with.

1508
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 2: Actually, I want to get her name right, uh, Makayah Bryant, right.

1509
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff we don't know about her, right,

1510
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: And this is not something like and that's why they

1511
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 2: should have shielded. No, no, no, there's a lot of stuff

1512
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 2: we don't know about her. We know a lot of

1513
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: stuff about her as a consumer type of idea, as

1514
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:42,719
Speaker 2: a high level, like you can see the social media

1515
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 2: system churning immediately, and it turned into what categories did

1516
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:54,520
Speaker 2: she fall into and what boxes she checked? And then

1517
01:15:54,920 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 2: people started spinning these stories and like, it's just how

1518
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm feeling lately. But there's no I don't know Makaia

1519
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: or Briant any better because of these stories, because many

1520
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 2: of these stories are from such a high level. They're

1521
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: just things that people either saw on Twitter that they

1522
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 2: read in an article. But I don't know who she was.

1523
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: I know she was, I know the category she fit in.

1524
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: She's black, she was a teen, she was a foster,

1525
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 2: she was in a foster system. Some adults wanted to

1526
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 2: fight her. She called the police. She had a knife.

1527
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 2: The police showed up and they killed her, like pretty

1528
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 2: much immediately, and everyone there was I guess fighting was black.

1529
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: And so there's been people debating it and I'm not

1530
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm never I'm not arguing with these motherfuckers online. You know,

1531
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 2: if they could let if Kyle Rittenhouse can walk by

1532
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 2: the cops with fucking three guns at shooting two people

1533
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 2: and managed to make it to the police station safe

1534
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: at his own on his own fucking time, it's hard

1535
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 2: for me to BELI believe that it's impossible that she

1536
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: could be alive. So anyway, my point being, though, the

1537
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 2: system of consuming her started immediately, and I don't know

1538
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 2: what to say about it, because on the one hand,

1539
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: I guess I appreciate people are trying to tell the

1540
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 2: stories and so that we get justice and they're bringing attention.

1541
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 2: But on the other hand, something about the fact that

1542
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: you already have almost like a press release or some

1543
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 2: like an article where you're feeling in the something is

1544
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 2: wrong about that, Like there's and I'm not even saying

1545
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: because people make money off of writing about it, like

1546
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 2: the economy of black death.

1547
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 3: I'm not that's not it. I'm not talking about activistming.

1548
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 2: But there's something wrong about I don't know anything about

1549
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: her really and who she was. I just know the categories,

1550
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 2: and then what we assume from the category. Well, you know,

1551
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 2: there's a lot of abuse in the foster care system,

1552
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: so you know she was a victim of that. We

1553
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 2: don't know that you know what I'm saying, but we

1554
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 2: we already have a narrative and we're just telling she

1555
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 2: don't matter. That's how it feels. She doesn't matter to

1556
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 2: the story people want to tell because it's a story

1557
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 2: they've been telling already, and she can fill in the blanks. Yes,

1558
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 2: when you know, me and my friend, me and Bossie

1559
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 2: were talking about because I haven't forgotten, but a lot

1560
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: of people say to have. And that's fine. I'm not

1561
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: saying I'm better than them. But loyol Eloyol Tolan. I

1562
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 2: believe it was her name she got she was killed.

1563
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 2: She was an activist, she was young. I think she

1564
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,879
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know the right term, un housed,

1565
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 2: I think. And a man killed her and people were

1566
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: saying it was a sex work thing. But he turned

1567
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: he was like a mess. He like killed either his

1568
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 2: mom or they or not. His mom killed like another

1569
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 2: woman that was like a friend of his family. Then

1570
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: he killed a lawyer with toad.

1571
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 4: Ain't toy ain't just a woman I remember the story.

1572
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 4: Ain't just the woman that gave him a place to live,

1573
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 4: And he turned around and he killed her.

1574
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 3: He killed her, Then he killed Toyan.

1575
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember this story.

1576
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 2: And and it seemed that he had some tremendously fucked

1577
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,879
Speaker 2: up mental health stuff going on. That's not an excuse,

1578
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 2: it just from what I read, it was like this

1579
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 2: person is that they were not all there. But I

1580
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 2: remember how people consumed her like a news cycle that

1581
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: was over in a forty eight hours or a week.

1582
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 2: It was it was like she was a hashtag. They

1583
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 2: were sharing her viral, they were sharing her videos were

1584
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 2: going viral. People were writing along threads about you know,

1585
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 2: then the black men are terrible for this reason and

1586
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: that and y'all don't do this and everybody involved at this.

1587
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 2: At the core of all this is this person was killed.

1588
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: A human being was killed. She wasn't just a category.

1589
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: She was a person, and she wasn't a stand in

1590
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: for the story you already wanted to tell you like

1591
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 2: if you were saying that that was on all black men,

1592
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 2: because black men ain't shit. You felt that before you

1593
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: knew she died, you felt that Saturday, you're gonna feel

1594
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 2: that Sunday, you're gonna feel that Monday. But on the

1595
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 2: day she died, it was like, this is just more

1596
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 2: fuel for my thing. It's not about you anymore, And

1597
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 2: so some of the shootings feel like that, and this

1598
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 2: is not just what black women like. Even with Uhna,

1599
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 2: even with Breonna Taylor, I remember at some point being like, well,

1600
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 2: now you're meming her, You're you got Instagram models like

1601
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 2: why me twerk? And then they turn around to be

1602
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 2: like arrest the cullers of I mean, like, what what

1603
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 2: is this? What is happening? Are we losing the plot?

1604
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: Are we losing that? This? This is this, This shit

1605
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 2: is happening to people, people that aren't here anymore, that

1606
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 2: didn't deserve this fate. And whether you can get some

1607
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: likes or Instagram things off of it, or you just

1608
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 2: say it as a catchy good by slogan, it uh

1609
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's a complicated thing because I can

1610
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 2: see how people would think they were helping, but maybe

1611
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 2: they are. But for me, it's like, fuck, man, we

1612
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 2: just start up the machine every time, like clockwork, like boom,

1613
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 2: black death. Hey did you know this guy was a

1614
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 2: football player and he did this, And here's a video

1615
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 2: of him playing with his little brother, and this and

1616
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 2: that and here's the video or the shooting. We have

1617
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 2: to show you that a million times and here's the

1618
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:04,759
Speaker 2: GoFundMe and did you know he was gay? And and

1619
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 2: that says what does that say about gay people in

1620
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 2: the community? And what does that say about how what

1621
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 2: about the other the homophobes in the community. It's like this,

1622
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: we're not even acknowledging a person got killed. Like you know,

1623
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 2: the thing where the activists were like using the mothers

1624
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,879
Speaker 2: to bash other activists who they just happened to already

1625
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: have been bashing before. It's just like, what the fuck

1626
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 2: is happening? You know what I mean, what are we doing?

1627
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 2: So that's that's what it makes me think about when

1628
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: I think about that shit where it's just like, man,

1629
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 2: we just we just pulled this ship right into what

1630
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 2: we're already doing. And I you know, I don't know

1631
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:55,480
Speaker 2: that it's changing anybody. I don't know that anyone's becoming informed.

1632
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone's changing their minds.

1633
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:02,839
Speaker 4: And not to sound mean and cruel, but when this happens.

1634
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 5: Nobody said, nobody gonna talk about but you almost dehumanize

1635
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 5: the person.

1636
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: That's how it is.

1637
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 5: You get to that point because it's like, okay to death,

1638
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 5: let's go, and they be like, how can we take

1639
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 5: this and plug and play on our agendas or whatever.

1640
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 4: We already have. And if they check check and.

1641
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 5: Then go go, and it's almost like the machine is

1642
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 5: thought movie immediately.

1643
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 4: And like you said, it's not about the person.

1644
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: It's like a mile high eulogy, you know what I'm saying.

1645
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 2: Like it's like a eulogy from somebody that don't even

1646
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 2: know a person, and everyone feels like they need to

1647
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: participate in it. Yes, and I don't. Maybe I'm becoming

1648
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 2: desensitized to it because it just don't feel right.

1649
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 4: And to do that.

1650
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: It's like if we had if something were to happen

1651
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 2: to you, and and and and and and and someone

1652
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 2: were to say, well, you know, when Karen was when

1653
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 2: that happened to Karen, that happened to her because she's

1654
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 2: as a southern black woman who did this and had

1655
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 2: this kind of hair and all this shit that is true.

1656
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 2: None of it's not true, you know, But they don't

1657
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: know you, They don't actually know you. And if I

1658
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: were to sit there and talk about it, I wouldn't

1659
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 2: say that, you know what I mean, Like I wouldn't

1660
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 2: be like, you know, as when she was adopted by

1661
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 2: her mom a as an adoptee as a I wouldn't

1662
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 2: say that because I'm like, I know you, yes, And

1663
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm not just trying to put this in a newspaper

1664
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 2: article or or you know what I'm saying, or get

1665
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 2: some retweets off of it. I'm just trying to say this,

1666
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: this person is gone and I and that is sad.

1667
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1668
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 5: Yes, And it also the thing is in that process

1669
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 5: of sometimes dehumanizing, it makes black death seem like it's

1670
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 5: just supposed.

1671
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 4: To happen and hear all.

1672
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 5: The articles copy cut paste onto the next one, on

1673
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 5: to the next one, on to the next one, versus,

1674
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 5: like you said, they are real, live human beings that

1675
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 5: have to live in the aftermath of this.

1676
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 2: It's like when like literally you see Makaia die on Twitter,

1677
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 2: because that's where people just put it up, no warnings.

1678
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 2: You see her die and then you see people immediately go, well,

1679
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: if we would have defunded the police, we would have

1680
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 2: been able to stop.

1681
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 4: And it's like, because it's always got to be about them.

1682
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 2: And it's like that was your that's something about that.

1683
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: It's so cynical and fucked up. That was your agenda

1684
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 2: before you saw this, yes, yeah, and this is just

1685
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: it has to be fuel for your fire, which is

1686
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 2: which feels like you're just siphoning off of this moment

1687
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 2: that something happened, But it's not necessarily about this moment

1688
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 2: or this person. You would have typed that about anything

1689
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 2: or anybody. So why did you feel the need to

1690
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 2: immediately be the first on the scene to be like,

1691
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 2: and let me tell you how this works with my thing,

1692
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 2: because I'm sure also on the other side of it,

1693
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 2: because you know, these are things I agree with, like,

1694
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, we can reallocate funds from the police,

1695
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 2: but let's talk about the opposite. Whereas people that jump

1696
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 2: on this as racist people as police defenders who also

1697
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: hop on this thing and have a narrative written before

1698
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 2: we can even fucking breathe, they already like, and this

1699
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 2: is why she needed to die, and she was did

1700
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 2: you know about her police record? Did you know that

1701
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 2: the officer was called? Because this is she had a knife,

1702
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,640
Speaker 2: and it's like everyone's talking past each other.

1703
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 3: None of you care about her very.

1704
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 5: Right, right, because when you look at it and we

1705
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 5: kind of talked about this and event happens and then

1706
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 5: it's off to the racist and when you say, off

1707
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 5: to the racist, it's not about the event, it's not

1708
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 5: about the person, it's not actually really about what's happening

1709
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 5: at that time.

1710
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 4: Nobody cares about that. It's off to the racist.

1711
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 5: Who could be first, who could be the loudest, who

1712
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 5: can get trending first, who can get the most likes,

1713
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 5: who can get the most reticks, who can get their

1714
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 5: TikTok at first? Because all of a sudden, the event

1715
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 5: becomes about everything but the event.

1716
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 4: The event becomes about me.

1717
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 5: So like you say, for me to go, you know,

1718
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 5: on these other tangents that are similar but not actually similar.

1719
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 4: It all rotates back to me.

1720
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 2: Which is not about the victim, right, you know.

1721
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 5: And there are people that are like out here, and

1722
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 5: their whole job is fighting for the victims. A lot

1723
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 5: of them, I know, they have to be irritated and

1724
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 5: frustrated by a lot of these narratives and agendas and

1725
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,440
Speaker 5: stuff because in their minds they're going, y'all are losing

1726
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 5: the victims in this.

1727
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 4: Nobody gives a fuck about your own personal opinions and things.

1728
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: No, no, what about the victims? What about these families?

1729
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 4: What about this? And it's like you said, it's one.

1730
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 5: Of those things where they're constantly fighting against these things

1731
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 5: that actually has propaganda machines and money.

1732
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:50,600
Speaker 4: And and and and and.

1733
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 5: The quickness and things like that being pushed behind it

1734
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 5: that a lot of times the foundation of it gets

1735
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 5: just washed away.

1736
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Blue Cat says something to Chad. They're trying to

1737
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 2: connect the death to their products or platform. And it's

1738
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 2: not just that, but everybody is selling themselves now, so

1739
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 2: you are the product or platform. So like someone dies,

1740
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 2: and then it's just how do they relate to me?

1741
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And and like I said,

1742
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 2: this is why I say people aren't real impasted, because

1743
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 2: if you're a black man and you cared about George Floyd,

1744
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 2: and you cared about Tamy or Rice, but then you

1745
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: see Makaiah and you go, she had a knife. They

1746
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 2: did what they had to do, then you don't care

1747
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 2: about You just cared that those they checked off black

1748
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 2: and mail. Yes, that's what you cared about. You didn't

1749
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 2: care about this problem. You don't care about when it's

1750
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: not when it doesn't feel like it could happen to you,

1751
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 2: you don't give a fuck. And I think that's what

1752
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 2: it passes off for empathy. But that's what a lot

1753
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 2: of this shit is is people going, I don't really

1754
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 2: give a fuck, Like I really don't give a fuck

1755
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 2: this look. I gave a fuck because I felt that way,

1756
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 2: and the other thought I have and I move on.

1757
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 2: But the last thought I had was why would George

1758
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 2: Floyd getting killed by Derek Chaven make you hire black people?

1759
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 2: How does that even remotely relate? You know? You ever

1760
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 2: think about that? Like, We've been spent a year of

1761
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 2: people saying the racial reckoning at the George Floyd? What

1762
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 2: the fuck does that have to do with? If Target

1763
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 2: gives two billion dollars the black people are not?

1764
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 3: You know, It's just it's weird, fucking like, hey, we.

1765
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,799
Speaker 2: Already had these issues and uh now it's the perfect

1766
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 2: time to get some points for bringing them up. But

1767
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 2: it's not really about the police or George Floyd or

1768
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 2: justice or any of that shit. It's just like everyone's

1769
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 2: talking about it. This is the sun. Let me siphon

1770
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 2: off a little heat from my brand and move the

1771
01:29:58,520 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 2: fuck on.

1772
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 4: We're just giving ourselves a pad on the back.

1773
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 5: Is about like that ice cream we talked about how

1774
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:05,799
Speaker 5: the person has said they have been going to Walmart

1775
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 5: for fucking ever, and Walmart just kept declining them, and.

1776
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 2: Then then all of a sudden, now you can bring

1777
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 2: your ice cream to Walmart?

1778
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 5: Right, So how did that make sense something that they

1779
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 5: had been begging and pleading about in advance. And the

1780
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 5: thing is, and I thought about this, and the thing

1781
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 5: is so fucked up about that, is like the companies

1782
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 5: should want all the money. And yes, I understand all

1783
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:27,919
Speaker 5: products aren't gonna be good, but there are some mediocre

1784
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 5: ass white products out there that they approve of all

1785
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 5: the time to sitting on their fucking shelves. But yet

1786
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 5: they won't give minorities a chance because for some reason,

1787
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 5: that shit don't sell for some reason, like niggas ain't

1788
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 5: in Walmart.

1789
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 3: It just feels like a lot of it is.

1790
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 2: A lot of it is like not even like here

1791
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 2: you go leave me alone, but more like, here's the

1792
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: chance to fix the thing that we've been needed to

1793
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 2: fix that really, I ain't got shit to do with this.

1794
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 5: It is a way to temporarily pat ourselves on the back,

1795
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, this is a

1796
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 5: fad in a phase and as soon as niggas stopped

1797
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 5: talking about it or everybody that moved on, they will stop.

1798
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 2: Well, I did say last year, while everybody cares about

1799
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 2: George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, which is a very rare

1800
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 2: thing for people to care about them uniformly, you know,

1801
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 2: because black men cared about Breonna Taylor, black women cared

1802
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 2: about George Floyd. You didn't see a lot of arguments

1803
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 2: between because normally we're not united. Normally there is some

1804
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 2: level like it is right now with Makaya, that's normally

1805
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 2: how it is. It was like that with Sandra Bland.

1806
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 2: It was like, I forget the woman's name I think

1807
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 2: was in the woman who had her child in the

1808
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 2: house with her and they shot up the house and

1809
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 2: shot the kid.

1810
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 4: Remember talking about I want to say it's like.

1811
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 2: A Tatiana or something. But yeah, the point being like,

1812
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 2: very rarely do we have these moments where everybody's on

1813
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 2: the same page, and so it's and then white people

1814
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 2: get on the same page. But I remember saying, I'm

1815
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 2: not mad at anybody getting anything out of this. Take

1816
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 2: advantage while you can't because white people won't feel this

1817
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 2: way long and eventually they'll go right back to like,

1818
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 2: oh none, that I think about it, I don't think

1819
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 2: we really need this many black movies, you know what

1820
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 2: I mean. I don't think we need this many black

1821
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 2: people working at this office. It was just Korean games.

1822
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 2: That was it, Yes, Kooran games like where. It's just like,

1823
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 2: I don't think we like it dries up so fast

1824
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 2: because we've seen this before. They feel bad and then

1825
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 2: it dries up. And now somehow niggas ain't getting phone

1826
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 2: calls no more. So I'm not knocking people for that,

1827
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 2: but just think about how that must have how that

1828
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 2: even came about, that that related in anyone's mind, that

1829
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 2: black people getting killed by the cops.

1830
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,600
Speaker 3: I guess it's time to hire some black people.

1831
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 2: To work at lows. How does what all right? Last

1832
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 2: one feedback, Emil says, Hey, Rod and Karen. I haven't

1833
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 2: written feedback in a while, but I reached a new

1834
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,679
Speaker 2: milestone my black Out Tip's listening experience. Since I switched

1835
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 2: to Spotify Premium from Title, I started following my daughter's

1836
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 2: playlist this they are eleven and fourteen. The other day

1837
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 2: decided to take againner at the music they were listening to.

1838
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I was shocked. Lots of Cardi,

1839
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 2: Doja Cat and a whole lot of rappers rapping about

1840
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 2: pussy popping.

1841
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 4: Come on, pussy popping.

1842
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 2: You know what that told me. It told me that

1843
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 2: I don't need to stop the podcast when they come

1844
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 2: into the room before.

1845
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 4: I'm trying to protect them fucking now, fuck it, yeah protecting.

1846
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So for the first time ever, when I was

1847
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,879
Speaker 2: driving my older daughter last week, I fired off Spotify.

1848
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 2: I listen to you guys chop it up with Corey.

1849
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 2: So that means no more headphones in the house with

1850
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 2: the podcast. Yeah, shout out to U and mel. Yeah,

1851
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 2: that is a good point. If they could listen to

1852
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 2: Puzzy Vivin, I guess they can. Uh, they could listen

1853
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 2: to us. You know, we ain't saying that they I mean, shit,

1854
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 2: you might. You might hear a little something that'll help

1855
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 2: you out, you know what I'm saying. Man. They made

1856
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 2: me think of something else, and I can't remember what

1857
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 2: it was, but it was somebody was blaming something on

1858
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 2: like like what about the kids or whatever. But then

1859
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:04,440
Speaker 2: I was like, you the same person that was celebrating

1860
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 2: wop when they was talking about what about the kids,

1861
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 2: and like, stop bringing up the kids. One gives a

1862
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 2: fuck about the kids In that type of way, like

1863
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 2: the kids, if the kids can can walk, can log

1864
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 2: into a point hub. There's a lot of problems happening

1865
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 2: in the house before we get to that stage. That

1866
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 2: got nothing to do with Cardi B. Come, Like, a

1867
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of missed opportunities had to happen

1868
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 2: for Meghan and Stallion to raise your kids.

1869
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 3: So let's all calm down.

1870
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, what a little nas that's gonna go?

1871
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 2: You know, what about my kids? I'm like, why does

1872
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 2: your kids have access to what is happening in your house?

1873
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 3: What's going on? All right, that's it. We'll be back tomorrow.

1874
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 3: Thank y'all for listening.

1875
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 2: We appreciate y'all. Until then, I love you. Wow.