1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Hey, you want to go out and get wasted on 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: juice boxes. It's one more thing, one more thing. It'll 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: all make sense, Katie, Okay, shy. Why am I making 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: these hands in moments? I don't know. It's scaring me. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Stop it. So before we get to whatever that is, 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: the concept of being a human footstool came up on 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: the Armstrong and Getty showed today. Oh my god, yes 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: it did. 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: We got an email that suggesting that sleeve boy should 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: add that to his duties. Sleeve boy, sleeve boy, hands 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: and knees right now, Daddy's legs are tired. 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: I make him call me daddy. Oh man, that's rough. 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: I was reading this book and it was a kid 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: that went to a private prep school in England. And 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: one of the weird things that happened at this horrible school, 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: in addition to the bullying and sexual abuse, was the 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: headmaster's wife would make two of the kids be a 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: foot stool for her in the evening so she could 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: rest her feet on top of them. And this was 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: an elite, yeah, private where you sent your rich family, 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: and you send your rich kids because you want them 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: to be also, you know, movers and shakers in England. Yeah, 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: really amazing. But and it reminded me I'd heard it 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: in a podcast last year. I wish I could dig 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: it up. I got to try to figure out where 26 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: it was. Some war in the Middle East way back 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: in the day, and like some sultan you know, takes 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: over another piece of land there in the Middle East 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: and makes that king be his footstool for like the 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: rest of his life, be a human footstool for like 31 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: twenty years or something like that. 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: I just don't know if I'd go along. I think 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: I might. I might, I might check out. 34 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: Before I'd be somebody's footstool for the rest of my life. 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: I think that would. Yeah, it'd be tough on your 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: back and your knees. I mean, if it had her execution. 37 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking about it physically as much as just 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: it's kind of demeaning, isn't it. 39 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: What are you I woke up demeans this morning? I've 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: done worse. 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: What kind of life is that being someone's footstool. Well, 42 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: it's demeaning, yeah, But if it's that or execution the guy. 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: The guy's not sitting all day and all night you 44 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: get time off. 45 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: You have no self respect I'd rather be alive. 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I would. 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: I could write poetry in my head as I sat 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: there with his feet on my back. I could think 49 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: about anything I wanted. I could write songs. I could 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: have a happy and productive life when I'm not being 51 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: in footstool. I don't know. You live and you endure, 52 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: you overcome. 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: I have so many questions, like if on your downtime, 54 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: when you're not a footstool, how. 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: Much freedom do you have? 56 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 57 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: Do I have a car? 58 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: Can I go about my regular day, but make sure 59 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: i'm back for footstool hour or whatever? 60 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: Seeing the get You're down at the mall shopping and 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: they just text you and my feet are a little 62 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: on the ground. If you know what I'm saying, I'm 63 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: on my way home. 64 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: We've been walking a lot. Twenty minute warning. I could 65 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: deal I mean, I could deal with that. 66 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is demeaning, but yeah, as long 67 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: as it's fairly civil. Something tells me in the ancient 68 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Middle East it wasn't quite that enlightened. 69 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: Probably not. 70 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah you get a beating on the way in and 71 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 1: one on the way out, well, then yeah, I'd hurtl 72 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: myself off the castle wall or onto a sword or something. 73 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: But the fact that the guy hung in there for 74 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: twenty years says to me, you know, it's all right. 75 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: You know that's a that's a decent comment right there. 76 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 2: That great benefits. You're off hours, hit a creep, got 77 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: a four wooden k. 78 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I'm traded very well. Yeah, it's dirty 79 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: feet around my back. Other than that, it's pretty enlightened. 80 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: He's got great taste in music, and I get to 81 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: listen to it. Obviously, I'm there. 82 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: I'm furniture for a rich guy. But every now and 83 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: then he clips his toenails, you. 84 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: Know, and you know the harem girls. I'm not supposed 85 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: to look, but I'd grab a glance. I mean, he's 86 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: not looking at me. It's it's fine. Beat's getting your 87 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: head sawed off anyway. So my reference to getting wasted 88 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: on juice box is a ten year old California girl 89 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: is set to graduate from college this spring. She says, 90 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: I just enjoy learning. There's so many interesting things out there, 91 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: which is true. 92 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: Ten. Is this the youngbe eleven at the ceremony? Is 93 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: this the youngest ever? 94 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 95 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: I've heard, you know, we've all heard the sixteens, fifteen thirteen. 96 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever heard of ten. 97 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. She learned how to read at two years old 98 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: and began doing algebra at the age of five. Started 99 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: taking classes at a community college in Ukaypa, California, when 100 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: she was eight. It's very fun to me, she says. 101 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: It's almost as fun as playing outside or riding a 102 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: bike or doing whatever. I just enjoy learning. There's so 103 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: many interesting things out there, you know, it's it's funny people. 104 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: Uh no, I don't think so. Let me let me 105 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: say probably not. I mean she's a child. Oh there, 106 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: she is, lovely gal, Oh what a cutie. Anyway, she's 107 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: not gonna end up a human footstool. People react with 108 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: incredulity and wonder and amazement at this sort of thing. 109 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: And I've for years and years and you just thought 110 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: it's so silly. And it reminds me of one thing 111 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: I hate, Katie. That's very odd. I hate when people 112 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: gush over a child who can sing like an adult. 113 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: That is something that sets Joe off, Katie out of 114 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: you didn't know that. 115 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: Well. People are like, oh my god, she's amazing. Listen 116 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: to that voice. Oh my god, and she's only a child. 117 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's like this little girl. It's not 118 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: merit that she's that intelligent. I mean she has a 119 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: fair amount of character and a curious mind, which I 120 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 1: think is great. She's not better than you. Her brain 121 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: just works differently. It's like being exceptionally tall. I don't 122 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: point at somebody who's very tall and say, oh my god, 123 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: he's six foot five. That's much taller than average people. 124 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: Because sand a certain number of people fall outside the 125 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: averages and stuff like that. So some kid's throat is 126 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: formed in a way that she sounds somewhat like an 127 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: adult when she sings. Who cares you know what she's 128 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: gonna sound like when she is an adult, like a 129 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: sing an adult. It's not like she got anywhere worth getting. 130 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: She's just there earlier. It's not like she's going to 131 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: continue to be so much better a singer than the 132 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: rest of humanity by the time she's an adult. Her 133 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: her voice can some of the angels and care cancer. 134 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: That's not the way it works. I have never heard 135 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: someone this upset about Oh I'm implementing get upset. I'm 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: upset about stupid people who gush about someone who can 137 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: sing like an adult at age twelve. 138 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: Honest to god, if my kids started reading really well 139 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: at age two and everything, I'd think, WHOA, we have 140 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: got a situation to manage. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. 141 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: I mean, if I could choose it or not, I'd 142 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: choose not. I'd rather have a kid of normal intelligence. 143 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know's It's definitely a challenge and an opportunity. Now, 144 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: unlike the singing youngster, this young lady might continue to 145 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: learn throughout her lifetime and achieve great things. 146 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: I certainly hope that for or only fans. 147 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 148 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of super geniuses don't end up happy. 149 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: So oh yeah, go ahead. 150 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: No, No, I was just gonna say a crack a dumb joke, 151 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: so continue. 152 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry I missed it. Yeah. I've known more 153 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: than one person who is of like a crazy intelligence 154 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: that can't get their act together and or their borderline, 155 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: or actually just mentally ill and fantastically intelligent. It's just 156 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: as we've said for a long time, genius is another 157 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: brand of my brain. Doesn't work like other people's brains, 158 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: and sometimes it can be great, but not always. 159 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: Uh. I meant I wouldn't not from a parenting standpoint 160 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: for my kid, I wouldn't choose them to have that 161 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: brain just because. Okay, so now you're at community college 162 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: and you're eight. That's not a comfortable situation. Now and 163 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: you're at college at ten, you're not going to have 164 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: the college experience that you'd have with an average intelligence 165 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: that is, and having a high school experience, none of it. 166 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: It's just and so I actually know somebody. I'm going 167 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: to be very very vague about this for obvious reasons, 168 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: but mom is exceptionally bright and her daughter is off 169 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: the charts, and it's tough sometimes for the kid to 170 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: relate to kids her age. Sure she has nothing to 171 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: say to them. Well, I don't want to go any 172 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: further than that, because I'm not like intimately in their lives. 173 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: But I'm reminded of a great line from the best 174 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: incarnation of Sherlock Holmes that's ever existed, the Benedict Cumberbatch 175 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: with Mark what's his who's Mycroft homes? But that's Sherlock 176 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: homes smarter older brother who says to Sherlock, you think 177 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: it's difficult for you, For me, it's like living in 178 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: a world of goldfish, which is you know, obviously a 179 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: tad demeaning sort of fellow who might use you as 180 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: a stool school. But yeah, to be that bright as 181 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: a child, maybe you're still into playing with Dolly's and 182 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: think puppies are cute and stuff like that and want 183 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: to draw rainbows. But it'd be tough. 184 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: And uh, what is a kid going to major in? 185 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: Do we know that? 186 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. But her dream is to someday work 187 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: in artificial intelligence. She's talking about building a startup with 188 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: her dad, which is sweet. 189 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: Cool. 190 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: We're all going to be her footstool someday. I'd be 191 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: happy to be a hunter. Indeed. 192 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to grunt a little as I get 193 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: to the ground as an old older fellow. But let's 194 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: get this started. Imagine being a singing human footstool, not 195 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: only letting them put your feet on their back, sing 196 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: me a song, footstool. Yeah, I could see that being 197 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: part of the deal. I mean, if you're a human footstool, 198 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: you're not going to say no, I don't want to sing. No, 199 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: I'd say you're a human footstool. You're gonna do what 200 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: you're told. 201 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: Everybody cut everybody cut foot loose now, don't sing foot 202 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: related songs. I want other stuff. 203 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: I am going to kick you if you make another 204 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: joke like that footstool. 205 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's it.