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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norie with

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Speaker 2: Jason Martel has been one of the leading researchers and

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Speaker 2: lecturers specializing in ancient civilization technologies. Mister Martel's research has

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Speaker 2: been featured worldwide on numerous television and radio shows such

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Speaker 2: as the History Channel, Ancient Aliens, Discovery Channel, Sci Fi Channel,

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Speaker 2: the BBC, and of course a regular guest here on

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Speaker 2: Coast to Coast Jason, How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, George, thanks for having me back on.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to this and I'm going to see you

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Speaker 2: at Contact in the Desert this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I'm looking forward to that as well.

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Speaker 2: What's new with you?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, just still trying to unravel some of

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Speaker 3: those mysteries around all this ancient evidence of who were they,

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Speaker 3: where did they come from? And trying to use some

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Speaker 3: new technology to you know, unlock some of these answers,

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Speaker 3: artificial intelligence, some of the latest things that we can do,

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Speaker 3: you know, corellating data. So I guess what I'm up

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Speaker 3: to these days, George, is you know, still just battling

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Speaker 3: the you know, the the mainstream views of our data

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Speaker 3: and some of the top you know, some of these

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Speaker 3: topics that are getting light now, like UAPs and such.

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Speaker 3: It's it's an ongoing topic that we got to continue

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Speaker 3: to stay on top of.

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Speaker 2: How did you get involved in ancient alien work?

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Speaker 3: You know, when I was in college in San Diego.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you will remember this as soon as I

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Speaker 3: explain it, but you know, someone had just mentioned that

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Speaker 3: there were structures on Mars when I was in college,

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Speaker 3: company that puts all the cameras on the landers and

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Speaker 3: orbiters was also located in San Diego called Malan Space

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Speaker 3: Science Systems. And so, through several conversations with doctor Mike

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Speaker 3: Maylan asking him about Sidonia in the face serments him

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Speaker 3: always telling me, no, these are all natural wind and weather,

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Speaker 3: no aliens, no people made these, I quickly just became

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Speaker 3: more interested in realizing, well, wait a minute, this is

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Speaker 3: that we still don't understand, who really built them, where

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Speaker 3: the origins came from. So you know that's what sparked George.

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Speaker 3: Is this you know it's never going to end looking

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Speaker 3: quest for you know these answers.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy times. And you have done some work researching

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Speaker 2: some of the godlike cultures, but you say they're all

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Speaker 2: related to water. What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: You know? One of the interesting things that I've noticed

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Speaker 3: about many of the ancient cultures, and the show Ancient

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Speaker 3: Aliens did a good job too doing some of the

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Speaker 3: research and finding these connections. But there's some really interesting connections.

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Speaker 3: And we realize that a lot of the ancient cultures

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Speaker 3: either like depicting them as beings that are fish like

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Speaker 3: you hear words that are very much descriptive in nature

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Speaker 2: Well, I got to tell you, Jason, something happened on

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Speaker 3: Well, you know that's the that's the drum we've been

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Speaker 3: Ancient Apocalypse by Graham Hancock and and there too, you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, it's incredible. By the way, back in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 2: Many people said, no, they're not, They're just talking about

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Speaker 3: Right, So that's connected to the research here, is that

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Speaker 3: When people heard about twenty twelve in the Mayan Calendar,

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Speaker 3: You know, time is cyclical, so understanding that we were

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Speaker 3: But each of those basically every two thousand years, we're

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Speaker 3: pointing to a front star, a new north star, and

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Speaker 3: they're guided by motions in the solar system. So it's

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Speaker 2: Jason, Now, what kind of technology do you think they

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Speaker 3: You know, a lot of the things that we're looking

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Speaker 3: Sumerians and the depictions of these beings called the Aanaki.

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Speaker 3: The Sumerian lexicon is littered with use of actual rocket ships.

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Speaker 3: I mean down to the detail that you see separating

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Speaker 2: Well, I got to tell you, Jason, it's amazing work

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Speaker 2: that you do, that's for sure. Now let me tell

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Speaker 2: you this. Jason is going to be at Contact in

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Speaker 2: the Desert this weekend. I'll be there too. As a

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Speaker 2: matter of fact, a couple things are happening at Contact

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Speaker 2: in the Desert, which includes a panel I'm hosting, which

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Speaker 2: will be on Saturday. If you're in the greater Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles area, come on out. Full information on that is

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Speaker 2: at coast tocoastam dot com in the highlight reel, that

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Speaker 2: revolving reel that you so make sure you're part of that.

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Speaker 2: And then of course on Sunday, I'm going to host

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Speaker 2: Jason Martel will be doing a presentation at Contact in

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Speaker 2: the Desert and I'm looking forward to that. Jason, you

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Speaker 3: I sure am. I am looking for Contact very much

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Speaker 2: It's coming along, that's for sure. Tell us about Pacala

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Speaker 3: Yes, King Pacall, that's definitely an interesting one. We have

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Speaker 3: visual evidence of the Mayan king that. First of all,

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Speaker 3: our astronauts are. And most importantly, you see flames coming

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Speaker 2: To the stars. Indeed, it's an incredible How do you

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's not me so much, George, It's

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Speaker 3: ancient astronaut theory. Eric Vondanikin, Zacharias Fitch, and others like

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Speaker 2: Jason, have you been following the NASA hearing today on

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Speaker 2: UAPs which we still call UFOs of course, and their

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Speaker 2: incredible thing that they said they've been tracking for twenty

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Speaker 2: percent of them are unexplained. What a great story.

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Speaker 3: It's changing the game for us, isn't it. It's validation finally,

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Speaker 3: it's you know, I would like to see a little

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Speaker 3: Anytime UFOs or things like that are brought up in

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Speaker 2: For an organization such as NASA that has been accused

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Speaker 3: Know, I think it's a shifting landscape. I have been

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Speaker 3: watching this area for a long time, and that companies

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Speaker 3: reverse engineering technology from you know, extraterrestual craftess this has

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Speaker 3: this just never happened before in our field, Like there

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Speaker 3: But here's my answer, George, is this, you know a tip,

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Speaker 3: definitely some other agenda.

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Speaker 2: What do you think the pilots are seeing, Jason, something extraterrestrial.

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Speaker 3: It could be our own also where we're running, you know,

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Speaker 2: Balloons and yeah, look how long they let that float

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Speaker 2: It's crazy times. Is NASA still covering up things about

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