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Speaker 3: No, And and like I brought up that BYU game

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Speaker 3: That Tracy comp is good because that's what everyone's doing

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Speaker 3: I mean again to kids who are listening to this

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Speaker 2: Man, do your homework.

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Speaker 4: People, do your homework.

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Speaker 2: He has years of highlights like me.

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Speaker 3: At one time it was it was like Vince Ai, Tracy,

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Speaker 3: they're broadcasters now.

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Speaker 2: It's damn a crazy era.

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Speaker 3: But stay on this topic because with these two players, obviously,

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Speaker 1: You're playing guys I don't know, disrespected I've never heard of.

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Speaker 4: But it's tough.

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Speaker 1: It's tough, man, when you don't have a chance and

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Speaker 1: there's business, there's a business side of it. You kind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, actually and shout out to Silver. The All

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Speaker 3: And I thought that USA World Game wasn't bad And

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's hard, man, with the especially with the

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Speaker 4: Or how are you going to force somebody to play?

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Speaker 1: And the players understand now they have most of the control,

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Speaker 3: Do you think that they got to fix the lottery

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Speaker 1: It's it's I think it's it's a tough it's a

438
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Speaker 1: tough deal man. It's it's going to be hard, but

439
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 1: they're going to find a way.

440
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Speaker 3: I feel like they find a way. Sometimes the rig

441
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,479
Speaker 3: it it's like, oh, d Rose is number one, coming up,

442
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 3: Chicago got it.

443
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 1: Oh, Chicago got in Lebron's number one, like Cleveland's got it.

444
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 1: It's who knows Spurs was number one? Like they wanted

445
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: did they want being san Antonio? Yeah, you never know.

446
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 1: Those are the questions that everybody has, and you know,

447
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 1: especially about being in the NBA, they always think we

448
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: got the answers, but you know, it's above our it's

449
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 1: above everybody's pay.

450
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 4: Great what they're doing.

451
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 3: Have you ever were there ever any conspiracies And obviously

452
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: that's like a big question, like conspiracies that you kind

453
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 3: of confirmed once you got in the league.

454
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 4: Not really.

455
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: I always before I got in the league, I definitely thought,

456
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, it was rigged a little bit. Sure, I've

457
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: been in those situations where I honestly don't think it's rigged.

458
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't think yeah, yeah, I don't think they got

459
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 1: control of it like that. But there do be questionable things,

460
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: especially come playoff time or our big games. It does

461
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: you do question a lot. But you know, the integrity

462
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 1: of the game and the integrity of the NBA. I

463
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: always got the level of respect for how the NBA

464
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: gets down. So there's no script like you know, the

465
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Speaker 1: NFL thinks there is.

466
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Speaker 4: I don't think there's no script like that.

467
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it is silver is at

468
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Speaker 2: the end of the day.

469
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Speaker 3: It is like the game is important obviously, but there

470
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: is a business and entertainment aspect. It's got to be

471
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Speaker 3: an entertaining product that goes out there. So I think

472
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 3: people are like, oh, that's wild, you know, but like

473
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 3: we saw enough small market teams in the last five

474
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: years win championships to debunk a.

475
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Speaker 4: Lot of that. So yeah, so that's that's a tough

476
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: that's a tough one.

477
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it does get questionable at times where it

478
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Speaker 1: makes you think, all right.

479
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Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break here on point game and

480
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Speaker 3: we come back, we're gonna talk more about what's going

481
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Speaker 3: on in little bit.

482
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Speaker 2: All right, back on point game.

483
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Speaker 3: So, Steph, as we know, has been having a historic

484
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: sneaker watch as they're calling it, like the second Eye.

485
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: He said he wasn't or he's leaving under Armour. He's

486
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 2: just been.

487
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 3: Pulling out he and for like some like real insider

488
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 3: sneaker stuff. I know both of us are sneaker heads.

489
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Speaker 3: Would love your love, your insight on that and just

490
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 3: your reaction to Steph's historic sneaker run. And then also

491
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Speaker 3: recently he had said that he's narrowed it down to

492
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: three brands and one of them being ant At, which

493
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 3: is I think I'm gonna come up here with Kyrie

494
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 3: and Clay being there their main guys. So what have

495
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: you thought so far about about Stephan how he's handled

496
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: his departure from Under Armour.

497
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 4: It's been a one. It's been amazing.

498
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: Like the last time I seen somebody do something like

499
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: this was on court with Kobe, you know, when he

500
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: when he left Adidas and he was trying to figure

501
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: out whether he was going to rebok Jordan, Nike, all

502
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: those other shoe companies. But to see Steph like and

503
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: he's doing it so strategic, like he's playing against Orlando

504
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: walking in with Grant Henny's or some pennies on. He

505
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: wore some shocks when they played against Orlando one time,

506
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: like in the in the warm ups, like he's he's

507
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: being so strategic. It's super dope because nobody's ever been

508
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that's strategic in terms of playing against

509
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: certain teams, wearing certain guys shoes, it's been dope. Like

510
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: the last thing when he didn't play the other day,

511
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: he was he was he was wearing them a tumbos, Like,

512
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like nobody's thinking of stuff like that.

513
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: And then like you said, what did he he narrowed

514
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: it down to Anton and who else?

515
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Speaker 3: So I've been trying to find of research. No one

516
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 3: said the other two brands. I feel like there's but

517
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: the other two brands in my head. I would love

518
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: your your thoughts on this. It's got to be Adidas

519
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 3: a Nike, right, But to me, like at one point

520
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 3: he was rocking Nike's NonStop, and.

521
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, he's Steph Curry.

522
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: Famously they disrespected him, and you know it's like Nike

523
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: is a top you know, basketball brand, and I love

524
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: Nike or what I but it's like part of me

525
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: is like, don't go to Nike.

526
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Speaker 1: They didn't take that chance on you in the beginning, right,

527
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm not going to Nike. I mean, if I'm him,

528
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: not saying it like that because I got all love

529
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: for Nike. Yeah, if I'm him, I'm just another guy

530
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: with a signature shoe, like and they got like six

531
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: or seven or however many guys they got. I'm going like,

532
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like it's hard to turn down Nike

533
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: for sure, but like to make an impact, that answer

534
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: thing looks dope, especially with what Kyrie is doing. Kyrie

535
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: Hish is off the court stuff looks amazing. He's on

536
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: the court, and I wouldn't. I never looked at answer

537
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: like that, Like I've had sit downs with answer back,

538
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, back in my time, but I never looked

539
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: at and like people look at it now and then

540
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: they even got you. Obviously they gave Klay Thompson a

541
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: lifetime deal. Like they're doing stuff to empower their players,

542
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: and I think Steph Curry is seeing that too, like Kyrie.

543
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: Really people thought it was going to be a drop

544
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: off from Nike to them, and it's really turned up

545
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: to where he got his own infrastructure and his own brand,

546
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: and it's super dope to see. So it would be

547
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 1: dope to see a guy like Steph Curry go in

548
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: that direction and take them to another level as well.

549
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: But obviously if he goes with Nike or one of

550
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: them is going to be super dope too.

551
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: I think Kyrie has one of the greatest signature lines ever.

552
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: Obviously, you know my number one is Kobe, but his

553
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: signature Nike line. Like I've been around kids for the

554
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: last six seven years. You know, in the AU game,

555
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: every kid had Kyrie Zo, every kid a couple of

556
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 1: players on every NBA team like that, that that was

557
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: the go to hoop shoe. If he wasn't wearing Kobe's, yo,

558
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: lie no lie about it. And now it's like when

559
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: you see team like obviously kids.

560
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 4: Got James Harden's on.

561
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: Now you got Anthony Edwards with Adidas, you got John

562
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: Morant's a big one in the in the you know,

563
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: in the in the younger generation.

564
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 4: But even at one point, PG was one.

565
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: Of the top, Like let's not forget that, Like pg's

566
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: look of his shoe, his his his PG one was

567
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: a that was classic man. That was ah man. Those

568
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: were comfortable too. Like so there there's I wonder what

569
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: Steph is gonna do. Man, But he's he's on. He's

570
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: on the Hall of Fame run right now. I think

571
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: he has the best run I've ever seen.

572
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 2: Steph is storytelling.

573
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: He didn't have to do this, Like he could have

574
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: just been like everyone's gonna woo me and I'll go

575
00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: wherever has the biggest check.

576
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: But he is, like he's doing that storytelling.

577
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 3: He's showing, like you said the other night, wearing them

578
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: with Tumbo's like you know, rest in peace to Ken Bay,

579
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: like just like pain respects to the game at A

580
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: guy at his level is dope to see like you

581
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 3: you know, a guy who still cares about the history

582
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 3: of it all.

583
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: Bro, He's wearing all the women's signature lines like he's

584
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: really he wearing some Rebox signature line like he's he's digging.

585
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: He's digging deep in the in the archives like that. Whoever,

586
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: whether it's him or his team, that was a good

587
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: little pull out that you've been doing for Shure And

588
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: I saw.

589
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: There's another story about Jalen Brunson was like, I don't

590
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: want a signature shoe. I just want to wear Kobe's again,

591
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: just the power of like the historic and iconic lines

592
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: of Kobe.

593
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: He's tripping, but I feel it, like, you know, I

594
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: rock with Kobe, So that feels like my signature line

595
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: that that would feel like in his is in his shoes.

596
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 1: You're you're getting designed your colors, You're getting to like

597
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: it feels like your shoe. But if Nike are a

598
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: shoe company ever came to me with my own shoe,

599
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: you just got to do that off the strength, just

600
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: because you can't get these years back. You might not

601
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: never have a shoe again. That's just like legendary status.

602
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: So he's tripping, but I feel him. I feel that.

603
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: What do you think is because again you've been around

604
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 3: the youth playing basketball, what do you think is like

605
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: the most underrated, non Jordan, non Kobe basketball shoe out there?

606
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: You shout out Kyrie, Is there are there any other ones?

607
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 4: Like?

608
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: Man, I mean the kids are onlike I'm my AA team.

609
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 4: I'm in an Adida circuit right now.

610
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: I just saw that.

611
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: So so they're Anthony Edwards, James Harden, those is all

612
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards is probably the most worn Adidas shoe for sure.

613
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: But like when I'm in different tournaments and I'm seeing

614
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: Nike and all these other things, like the job morants

615
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: because they got crazy colors and they look really good.

616
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: So I think that's one that's one that's like really popular.

617
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: But like you still see Kyrie's though, like you still

618
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: like you you especially with the older kids, like you're

619
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: you're You're seeing Kyriees.

620
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 4: You're seeing those shoes.

621
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: And then you got to give a shout out to

622
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball too.

623
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: Those yeah become another playground class.

624
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, those is those is the younger generation shoe

625
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: because they got crazy colors.

626
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 4: They got super cool things on them that the kids like.

627
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: So when I go around in on Matthew's tournaments, I'm

628
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: seeing all those shoes. So shout out to those guys, man,

629
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: shout out to I gotta give a shout out to

630
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: Mellow Ball because he sends the kids' shoes every month

631
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: and he's been doing this since I've been a teammate

632
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: of his. So I appreciate you, bro. Keep shining and

633
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: keep doing your thing it stuff art.

634
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, those colors are sick that he comes out.

635
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: With Okay, I want to settle the debate here though,

636
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: and we'll get off sneakers. High top versus low top.

637
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 3: Does the high top really matter? Because because you were

638
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: wearing high top at one point, obviously with some of

639
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: your deals, but then it was, you know, with Kobe,

640
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: it became every everything's a low top now, and everyone's like, oh,

641
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: that's why players are getting injured.

642
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: See that.

643
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't like that, Like, that's not the reason why

644
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: I play are getting injured. Low top is just a

645
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: way to go. It's I remember when I first came

646
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: to the league, I was a rebox. So I'm wearing

647
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: all the big man shoes. I'm wearing Kama Kazi's, I'm

648
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: wearing shack noses, I'm wearing even Iverson's questions were a heavy,

649
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: heavy ass shoe.

650
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 4: So I'm wearing these.

651
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: So once you know I'm getting my little leeway in

652
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: the league, I'm I'm making a name for myself.

653
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 4: I'm able to go back to rebocking these.

654
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: Meetings, like, man, I need I need the low of these,

655
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: at least I need the low Kama Kazis. I need

656
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: the low shock now, like yeah, and they start coming.

657
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 4: Out, let me get I got. I don't got the.

658
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: Low of this, but look they start making, Yeah, they

659
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: start making the low of these, and it changed everything

660
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: for me, Like it changed I was moving a little different.

661
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: I was, I was. It just became a popular shoe.

662
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: And you got to get a shout out to Kobe

663
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: because before Kobe did it, like it was frowned upon

664
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: to wear a low shoe.

665
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: You're already thinking you rolling your ankle.

666
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: But like he said, he's a he was a trendsetter, Bro,

667
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: and he really changed the game of basketball by going low.

668
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: Then when I signed with Nike, it was a no brainer,

669
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: Like I can't wear anything other than the low now

670
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: when I play, just like like anything that I.

671
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 4: Put on this high top like it's cool because it

672
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: looks cool. I can't even play in it. Bro, it's

673
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: over for that.

674
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: I used to and I'm not an NBA player.

675
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: But my favorite shoe was the hyper Dunks right inside

676
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: forgot those.

677
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I had those my first year of college.

678
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: I think right those are in like the that felt

679
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: like the future put.

680
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 4: On the hyper Doll.

681
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: My goodness, the hyper dunkch was one of the best

682
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: basketball shoes of all time.

683
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: All time. I think they came out with a low,

684
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: but it wasn't that.

685
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: Like, it didn't feel the same, you know, look cool,

686
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 1: It didn't feel the same. And you got to give

687
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: a shout to what the hirachi is? A two K

688
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: two K fours the two ko?

689
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.

690
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: Those I remember the Nike had those, a Nike I

691
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: d I was it. I think I was a sophomore

692
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: in high school. That was like my first little high

693
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: school shoe. I remember riding on the little where you

694
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: can write your name. I had mighty mouth someone because

695
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: I was like my little yeah back then, Ah, there's

696
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: so many shoes out there that were dope, that were dope.

697
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 4: But it's a different time now, Bro, you gotta go low,

698
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: you got.

699
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: I tried rocking the Kobe threes, those Christmas ones that

700
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: came out.

701
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: I got the slums and it was weird. It was weird.

702
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: It was weird. They look dope, but it's weird. Somebody

703
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: yesterday was showing me the Kobe three. They're like, you

704
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: got these? I was like, those are the ones. I

705
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: only got the lows, you know, the new ones that

706
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: came out.

707
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: I got.

708
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying that the Low's ones.

709
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: They're coming out with all the loads because they're like,

710
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: now the kids will wear these ones.

711
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: You got to you gotta do what the kids are

712
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: going to rock. Like, if you don't, you're tripping right now.

713
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you're not wearing a low, you probably

714
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: really ain't that good of a hoopo us.

715
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: It's your own shoe.

716
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: Or you're a big man and you've had some serious

717
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: issues and you just need that like mental thing, you know.

718
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: If you're if you're a big man, I get it,

719
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: I get it. You got it. You can't really be

720
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: on the lows if you're seven foot. That's Keep that

721
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: to me.

722
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: Keep that to me, all right.

723
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: One more fashion topic that I want to talk about.

724
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: Pat Riley, he got his statue of villain. They brought

725
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: all the Showtime Lakers together and he was quoted as

726
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: saying that the coaches need to go back to wearing

727
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: suits on the sidelines, which we all know the history

728
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: of that COVID happened. Uh you know, coaches were wearing

729
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: like the drive fit zip ups or whatever, and it

730
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: just has never come back. Now, I would love to

731
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: hear what you think, because you played in the days

732
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: of coaches wearing the suits.

733
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: Do coaches got to go back? What do you think?

734
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 4: I think? I think you can if you want to.

735
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: Okay, this is for for the coach's decision, man, because

736
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: I get the coaches wearing what they wear now. It's

737
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: more comfortable and it looks better, right. But I understand

738
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: where pat Riley's coming from. He's old school. He want

739
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: suit and tie. He wants you to look sharp, like

740
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: you going to church on a Sunday. So I understand

741
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: that side too. But you got to adapt to what's

742
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: going on into day's game.

743
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: Bro.

744
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 4: It's just over for the suits.

745
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a time and place for the suits,

746
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: maybe like the n season tournament, the championship game you

747
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: wear a suit, or the finals you wear a suit.

748
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: Like you can pick and choose when you wear suits.

749
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: But it's over for that, Broy. It's a rap for that.

750
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: Shout out to pat Riley. Though you got your statue,

751
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: you're one of the best coaches you know GMS all

752
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: of that to ever be a part of the game,

753
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: a trendsetter in the game. And you know he was

754
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: wearing the Armani suits. Was he was, That's the thing.

755
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: He looks good in suits. He looks right in suits,

756
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: but everybody don't look like him. Everybody ain't trying to

757
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: spend that type of money. So shout out to pat

758
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: Riley and him always being suited and booted. But it's

759
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. We're done with the suits og pat Riley,

760
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: We're done with that.

761
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: It's just also it's not improving the game.

762
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: But I do like that idea finals finals dress code

763
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: a little bit right, Finals dress code?

764
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? Are you just picked Christmas Day games?

765
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: Maybe you pick games throughout the you know, throughout the

766
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: year that you can do it if you want to

767
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: do that.

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00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 4: But it's long I think them days is long gone.

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00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: Pam, gotta move on, all right, We're gonna take a

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00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: break care on point game. We'll be back and we're

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00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: gonna name our no days off player of the Week,

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00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 3: all right. At the moment, Anthony Edwards is plus one

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00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: he has the clutch gen and then who are some

777
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 3: of the other clutch players in the NBA right now?

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00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's safe to say Anthony Edwards has the clutch gene.

779
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: He's been able to make shots in the fourth quarter.

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00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: He loves those moments. I think the biggest thing about

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00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: embracing those moments is is taking advantage of them and

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00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: just wanting those moments, wanting to be in that situation,

783
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: in those clutch moments, because everybody doesn't like those moments.

784
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 4: Everybody doesn't prepare for those moments.

785
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: So when you got a guy on your team that

786
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: loves those moments, whether it's you know, miss or make,

787
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: whether it's good or bad, I think that's half the battle.

788
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: Because it is pressure. But it's like if you accept

789
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: that pressure, it's it's easy. I mean that that's that's

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00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: coming from experience, Like I was okay with with with

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00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of players aren't. And the to answer

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Speaker 1: your question about guys that are clutched in today's game,

794
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta go with I'm always go with

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00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: the older guys first. I mean Curry, KD Luca.

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00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: Luca is clutch. You gotta go with Max.

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00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: He is another one that that really takes advantage of

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00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,560
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00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,680
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to point game it.

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Speaker 3: We're closing it out like we do most episodes here

821
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: when no days off or shouting out players that deserve

822
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: the shine, deserve the exposure, aren't getting much highlights posted,

823
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: but are doing big things.

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00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: So who do you got for no days off this week?

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00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: No days off?

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00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna go with somebody under the right

827
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: Art has been playing really well as of late over

828
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: there in Houston with the Rockets and Man Thompson. Shout

829
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: out to the Thompson twins. I remember doing some broadcasting

830
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: over there at OTE when they were in high school.

831
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: So I built somewhat of a friendship with those guys,

832
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: especially at Man Thompson. He's, you know, one of the

833
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: best defenders in the league, and his offense is coming

834
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: at a good rate right now. So no days off

835
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: goes to him. Shout out to him. Keep doing your

836
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: thing in the season, right man, bro.

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00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, near perfect game the other night, and like you said,

838
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: it's like I feel like his offense is coming along

839
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: because he had Jalen Green on the team at one point.

840
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: So obviously buckets were taken away there.

841
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: He's got KD now, but you know, it's tough to

842
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: get the ball on that team, and to be putting

843
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: up what he's putting up right now is impressive.

844
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: And I feel like the twins are man man quickly

845
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: the future of the Sleek.

846
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 4: They're special.

847
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: And then him just being around a guy like KD

848
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: is only gonna help, you know, get his offensive game right,

849
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 1: hopefully get his get him some touch on his jump shot,

850
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: because I think that's the next The next thing for

851
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: him is to get better at his shooting.

852
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 4: And if he gets that, like this guy's the limit

853
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: for that guy.

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00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: This this is a dumb question, but do you ever

855
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: think I've always thought this about twins who make it

856
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: to the league. I'm like, if I had somebody who

857
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: I was just as good as me, or like I

858
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: could play one on one against my whole life, Like

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00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: that's an advantage. Do you feel like that that's like

860
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: an advantage if you had a twin basketball player?

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00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: For sure.

862
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: Look, I used to play with the twins in the

863
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, the Mores Twins. Yeah, it used to be

864
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: so funny because they'll play against each other like they'd

865
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: be on opposite teams. Every time they touch the ball,

866
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: Like every time either of them get the ball, they're scoring.

867
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: Like the guys just the other the other.

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00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: It used to be so funny, like the twin is

869
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: playing just hard enough to where it looks like he's

870
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: trying to stop him, but they're scoring on each other

871
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: at all times. Like that was he was like a

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00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: little they joke, all yeah, but they they're just allowing

873
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: it to happen though they Yeah, yeah, they're playing hard

874
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: enough to where they're like, okay, he's he's just he's

875
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: not contesting the shot hard enough. He's not not Like

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00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: it used to be. It used to be a running

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Speaker 1: joke to where like dang they did. They definitely didn't

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00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: stop each other, and it was like something that they

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Speaker 1: plan for sure.

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Speaker 3: That's a conspiracy though that people say that the Morris twins,

881
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 3: that a different Morris twin will show up and play

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00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 3: for different teams.

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00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: You think that. I bet early on they did.

884
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 1: Once you got to the league and you was around them,

885
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: they were just there were two different players.

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00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: Like it took me probably it took me probably a couple.

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00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: Of weeks to turn out which one with yeah, yeah, yeah,

888
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Speaker 1: because at that point they was wearing the same thing

889
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: at that like twenty fourteen, fifteen. Yeah, they comeing to

890
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: practice or the games every day they're wearing the same thing.

891
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: So they were really earned that twin thing. Like, so

892
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: they took me a couple weeks again and those are

893
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: my bros. So, like, it took me a couple of

894
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: weeks to figure out which one was which.

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Speaker 2: No, I love the Morris twins and yeah, shout.

896
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 4: Out to that the Thompson twins.

897
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: It's like, if they're right next to each other, you

898
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: really don't know which one is which.

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00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 3: There are so many bloopers reporters calling them the wrong name,

900
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: and it's hard.

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00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's probably pretty hard.

902
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: I bet I was doing that when I was when

903
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: I was doing the ote thing, I know I was

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Speaker 1: calling them.

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Speaker 4: The wrong name for sure.

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Speaker 3: All Right, this has been another episode of Point Game.

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Speaker 3: As always, I any parting words for our crowd listener.

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Speaker 1: Right now, man now, just tap in with us, keep

909
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Speaker 1: coming through weekly, give us some more feedback on what

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00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: you guys want to hear, what you guys want us

911
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: to talk about. It doesn't always have to be about hoop,

912
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: but the feedback is always good and we appreciate the

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00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: love and support.

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Speaker 3: All Right, there's been Point Game presented by iHeartMedia, Slow Grind,

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Speaker 3: Fall Through Studio and DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: See guys in the next episode

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Speaker 4: Sto