1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: If you're why isn't I want to make this time 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: an a marathon or I want to run this mile 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: at this pace, then take the seriousness away, because it's 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: not going to be enjoyable. 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Emily Abody here coming in with another installment 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: of this week's special series called Running Through with Global. 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: Running Day just yesterday. 8 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: It is only fitting that we are wrapping up season 9 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: nine and celebrate all week with these five back to 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: back episodes in the feed. 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: You know the deal. 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: Here on the show, I am dedicated to bringing hurdler's 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: content that encompasses all aspects of wellness. Still running holds 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: a very very special place in my heart, and while 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: originally leaned to running as a weight loss tool back 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: in college, it has turned into a serious passion of mine, 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: helping me get through some of my biggest hurdle moments 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: and connects on a deeper level with so many. This week, 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: I am talking with some inspiring women, a few of 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: which you have heard from already, all of whom have 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: also turned to running during some of life's biggest, darkest hurdles. 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: We get vulnerable talking about tough topics like loss and grief, depression, 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 2: and postpartum depression and how running in sport has helped 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: them persevere, rediscover their self worth and put on a 25 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: brave face. Today I am chatting with Aaron Azar. I'm 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: ampt about this. Both Arin and myself joined with my 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: friends at Ultra for a global Running Day campaign. 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I am over 76 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: at Emily a Body and with that, let's get to hurdling. 77 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: Today. I am sitting down with Aaron Azar. 78 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: She's known to her many many followers as missus space Cadet. 79 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: How you do today? 80 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: I am doing great? How about you? 81 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: I'm so good. 82 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm so happy that we were able to connect via 83 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: the powers that be on the Twitter. 84 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: It's amazing. I just recently got back on Twitter, like 85 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: a few months ago. I've had my Twitter forever, but 86 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: I found it really like scary. People on there can 87 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: be a little scary, but I think I found the 88 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: right people. That's the key. You have to find the 89 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: right people to follow and unfollow the scary people. 90 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: You of all people, knowing a thing or two about that, 91 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: not only because you are now getting more active in Twitter, 92 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: but you also have a pretty great following over on 93 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: both Instagram and TikTok, which happened during the pandemic. How 94 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 2: has it been for you to give so many more 95 00:05:54,360 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: individuals around the world more access to your life. 96 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: It's really bizarre to me how that happened, because you know, 97 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: when I started posting on there, it was when I 98 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: first started running and I was really struggling, and everyone 99 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: I would look at that ran of course I'm going 100 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: to social media because I don't know where else to look. 101 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: I live in the middle of nowhere, so I'm looking 102 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: at social media and I'm like, okay, well where are 103 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: the people like me? You know? And I think that's why, 104 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: like I did reach the point of desperation to post 105 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: to TikTok, like post my runs on there. But at 106 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: the time, Instagram wasn't didn't have videos, I mean like reels, 107 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: and TikTok was like a dancing app for teenagers or something. 108 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: That's what I thought it was, And so I was 109 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: ready to get like brutally ripped apart by ten year 110 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: old boys, and so I was really shocked that when I, 111 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, posted those videos, there were so many people 112 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: that were like, finally, you know, someone's saying these things 113 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: and talking about thigh shaving and like all these random things. 114 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: I just didn't think that it would really blow up 115 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: to what it did and what it's still doing. That's 116 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: like what really surprises me. But I love every second 117 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: of it. It's amazing. 118 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: For context, tell the people, quote unquote, where is the 119 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: middle of nowhere? 120 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that is in like southeastern Pennsylvania. It's basically 121 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: like a little farm community. I guess I don't know. 122 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: I always kind of felt like we didn't really belong 123 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: here because it's it's very much like generational these families, 124 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: and my parents moved there, you know, like maybe forty 125 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: years ago, so we're technically like newcomers. I don't know, 126 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: So I always felt a little odd there. But I mean, 127 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: I love it now. It's beautiful, but it is a 128 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: little isolating if you're trying to do something like learn 129 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: how to run. 130 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: You know. Probably also a really great place to raise 131 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: a family. 132 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, yeah, because the thing is it's like they 133 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 1: can have space and it's safe to like walk down 134 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: to you know, someone's house. We call them neighbors, but 135 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: they're like a mile away. And but yet you'res close 136 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: to like Philadelphia and New York City, Like a day 137 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: trip is easy, you know, to those locations. So it's 138 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: kind of cool, like the kids can have that country 139 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: lifestyle and then have all the fun of the cities. 140 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: And when you say kids, you are a mother of three. 141 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they are seven, five and newly three, So 142 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: we're like out of that toddler phase kind of. 143 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: We are here today to talk to one another as 144 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: part of this Running Through series. This week on Hurdle 145 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: and you and I had a really great conversation about 146 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 2: not only the hurdles they you faced getting into running, 147 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: but what brought you to running in the first place. Now, 148 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: you just mentioned you have three beautiful children, but talk 149 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: to us about where you were in your life after 150 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: having your third. 151 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, after I had my third baby, I was 152 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: feeling honestly similar to after I had the first two, 153 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: which was really just like isolate, feeling of isolation, even 154 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: though I was surrounded by like friends and family, really exhausted, 155 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: which is obvious, just really depressed, which is when you 156 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: have a baby, I think, and this is becoming like 157 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: more talked about now, but like when you have a baby, 158 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: it's like assumed that you would be the best, the 159 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: happiest you've ever been, and how could you be sad 160 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: and all this, But you're going through your day not 161 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: quite feeling sad, but all of a sudden you're crying. 162 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: Like it's really weird, in a really weird mental sp 163 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: to be in. And I never realized that I'm in 164 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: it until I'm out of it, which is kind of weird, 165 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: and which I think is why I probably didn't get 166 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: enough like clinical like medical support from it, because you know, 167 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: like the midwives or people they're calling to check on you, 168 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: but when they're calling, I'm fine, so you know what 169 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean. And I didn't hear a lot of people 170 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: actually talking about that when I was going through it. 171 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: But now I make sure, like if I talk to 172 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: a new mom and she seems a little like struggling 173 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: in some way or maybe trying to hide that she's struggling, 174 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: I do mention what I went through and how confusing 175 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: that was, just in case to you know, kind of 176 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: open up that dialogue a bit so that was rough 177 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: because you're like, why do I feel like this? You 178 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: can't control it? And it comes and goes in like 179 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: big waves, And. 180 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: Would you say that otherwise you are a pretty happy person. 181 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's I struggle in winter just 182 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: from like the seasonal depression type things like once fall hits, 183 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, it's so beautiful, and I'm like ready 184 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: to cry because I'm like, no, summer's over and winter 185 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: like the days are so short. But I find ways 186 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: to get through it. It's not like I can't control it. Yeah, 187 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: So that's I feel like a bit different there. 188 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: So I would imagine that when you get these outbursts 189 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: of sadness and tears are coming from seemingly nowhere, on 190 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: top of being overtired, as most moms of infants certainly are, 191 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: it's confusing and a little isolating. And it's as though, 192 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: in this point, and to your point about feeling as 193 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: though you're supposed to be super happy, you're supposed to 194 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: feel like you can handle all of this, it just 195 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: gets to be a lot. 196 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does. And also the guilt of sometime 197 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: being taken away from the other kids. So if it's 198 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: not your first you feel like that guilt because you're 199 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: kind of having to say like, Okay, later, we can 200 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: do that. Later, I have to feed the baby or 201 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: you know something like that. So add that onto the 202 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: pile of emotions that you're feeling. It's like, yeah, it's 203 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: a little exhausting. 204 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: How at the time did you begin to navigate that 205 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: guilt and did you have any conversations about how you 206 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: were feeling with friends or family members. 207 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I really mostly opened up to my husband. 208 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: I think because obviously he was like physically near and 209 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: so when I was feeling like one of those waves 210 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: or one of those days, he was right there. So 211 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm just like, hey, I'm not doing well, but I 212 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: don't really know why, but you know, and it always 213 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: seemed like just saying that really helped, and I would 214 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: kind of like and then we would do something different, 215 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: like we'd change up something and he'd be like, hey, 216 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: I'll take you know, the kids, and you can sleep 217 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: or because sometimes that's you need to sleep in the 218 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: middle of the day or something and you can wake 219 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: up and switch off, switch that off. But I do 220 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: think a lot of that some too, maybe friends that 221 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: had babies, and I think for me, it was just 222 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: really like they're talking it out and also just knowing, like, 223 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: I know this is going to go away, because I 224 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: went through it the other two times. 225 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 2: And I think that point that you made about simply 226 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 2: talking about how you feel can make a really big difference. Now, 227 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: of course, it's really beautiful that you had your husband 228 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 2: to chat with, but of course if you feel as 229 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: though you're going through something, you're unsure, maybe you're wondering, 230 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: if you're experiencing depression, then there are so many communities, experts, 231 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: individuals that you can reach out to and start there. 232 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: Start by stating where you're at, because if you don't 233 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: admit what's going on, if you don't confront how you feel, 234 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: then you can't do anything about it. 235 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 3: You can't change it. 236 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: Right, And sometimes just saying that to someone won't make 237 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: you feel better. And I think if that didn't help, 238 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: I would have been like that, you know what I'm calling. 239 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do, but I'm calling 240 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: a doctor or I'm you know, a support group or something. 241 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: But I think the fact that when I would get 242 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: that off my chest and say like, oh, I'm going 243 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: through this point here, and the kind of weight that 244 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: was lifted off. I felt a little lighter, I felt 245 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: like I could think better. That was thankfully something that helped. 246 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: But you know, like you said, if that doesn't, there's 247 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: so many resources to get through it. 248 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, So as you start to speak a little 249 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: bit about how you're feeling, you're trying to navigate what 250 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: life is now with three children. This journey then leads 251 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: you toward the point where you ask yourself, maybe try 252 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: moving my body? 253 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: Question right about that journey for you? 254 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 255 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: And the thing is too So my third baby was 256 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: my first sea section, so that was wild. The recovery 257 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: from that. I was really hesitant. I feel like with 258 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: my first two, I knew I could move, like I 259 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: wasn't cut open. Not to get too graphic, but I 260 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: mean that wasn't involved. So with this sea section, I 261 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: was hesitant. I'm like, can I do a sit up? 262 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: Like is everything still attached in there? And so I 263 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: think I held off a little bit. But yeah, I 264 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: just felt like this. I don't know if it was 265 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: like desperation or something, but I'm like, I have to 266 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: get fresh air and I have to move and sweat 267 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: it somehow. And I looked out the window, and that 268 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: day it happened to be like a really nice morning, 269 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: not too hot, not too cold, it wasn't raining. I'm like, 270 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go. And I always say like I 271 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: had these sneakers with holes in them that you could 272 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: put your finger through the holes, like they weren't just 273 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: a little worn here and there. It's like, and I 274 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: had no idea how bad that was to run in that, 275 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just I didn't even have 276 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: a regular sports bra I had like a nursing bra on. 277 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: I was a mess. But yeah, that first I said 278 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to run to the stop sign and back. 279 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: That first barely mile was just enough to be like, 280 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: I feel something here and I need to keep doing it. 281 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: And before you made the decision to go on this 282 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: like maiden Voyage run, had your doctor given you any 283 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: insight as to when would quote unquote be safe for you? 284 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,479 Speaker 2: And noting here that of course everyone is different, everyone's 285 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: body is different, but any guidance as to when doing 286 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: something like that would be okay from when you delivered. 287 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: To that point. 288 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so at you know, like the follow up appointments 289 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: where they just like check everything, which does not seem 290 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: very thorough to me, but I trusted it. They're just like, 291 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: how are you feeling? Oh what, let's look at things here. Okay, yeah, 292 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: you can get back to everything. And I'm like, are 293 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: you sure? 294 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 3: Are you sure? 295 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: I feel a little like disconnected to my body and things. 296 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: But I think they do know better because they know 297 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: the benefits of activity for your mental health, and you know, 298 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: physical health are going to far outweigh any like I 299 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: don't know, muscle like injury not I don't want to 300 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: say injury, but you might feel a little different. It's 301 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: better to just get the benefits of a little aerobic activity, 302 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: you know. 303 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think oftentimes, you know, a parallel similar 304 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: to that could be generally speaking, a registered dietitian might 305 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: not recommend having wine all the time, but there are 306 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 2: like endorphin endorphin boosting I wish serotonin boosting moments that 307 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: you get from like sitting down with friends and having 308 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: a glass or two, and that is good for your 309 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 2: mental health and whatnot. 310 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: So it's the same along the same lines. 311 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, getting fresh air so good for your system. 312 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: Getting those endorphins boosted also good for your system, so 313 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: worth giving it a try. 314 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and I was like I never liked running though, 315 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: that was That was another thing that made me realize, like, wow, 316 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm really desperate here because from the gym class mile 317 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: in like elementary school, to running being a punishment in 318 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: team sports, I was just like running sucks and I'm 319 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: bad at it and it hurts Aaron. 320 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: I don't know anyone who isn't scarred from their like 321 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: middle school mile experience, right. 322 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: I totally agree, Like who enjoyed that? Who was okay 323 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: with that? 324 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: Definitely not me? 325 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: So you go out for this first inaugural mile and 326 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: you enjoy it, I would say overall, you were like 327 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: this is good for me, and so what happens from there? 328 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: From there? Because I've been someone my whole life that 329 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: quits everything, like I quit girl scouts, I quit sports, 330 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: I quit band, I quit everything. I can't even think 331 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 1: of something I haven't quit. I thought that, okay, I 332 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: can't stick with anything, So what would make me stick 333 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: with this? And I think for some reason, I was like, 334 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: I'm going to do this every day for thirty days, 335 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: and I guess I assumed it would just build that 336 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: habit or something and I would stick with it longer. 337 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: I think the bigger thing there though, was just finding 338 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: how important it was to me in that moment, Like 339 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: how people say find your why, which is like kind 340 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: of cliche in a way, but that was definitely me 341 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: just finding my why. I was like, if I don't 342 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: do this, I'm going to be really miserable and I'm 343 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: not going to be a good mom. And I don't 344 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: want to say that there's not really I know that 345 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm always yeah, yeah, but I won't be as happy 346 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: or as patient. And I wanted to enjoy the kids, 347 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: like you know. 348 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: And I think that that's such a beautiful takeaway and 349 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: definitely takes perspective to get to that point, because there's 350 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: that conflict of emotions a little bit, especially with young children, 351 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: about being away from your family for any period of time. 352 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 3: So so many. 353 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: Women that I have spoken to for the show felt 354 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: a sense of guilt by going out and maybe running 355 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: or going to a workout class or doing whatever self 356 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: care it is that they wanted to do at the time, 357 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: because that meant that they were away from their family unit. 358 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: But the reality was, to your point, that that little 359 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: bit of time allowed them to pour a little bit 360 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: of extra water into their cup so that they could 361 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 2: look at that cup and say this cup is half 362 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: full instead of this cup is half empty. 363 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly right, and I think that, you know, 364 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: even though I felt guilty every time, the kids it 365 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: became part of their routine as well, and they weren't 366 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: want you know, it started with them being like whining 367 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: and being upset and not understanding to now they're like, whoa, 368 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: how many miles are you running? And what are we 369 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: going to do afterward? And it's not that way. I 370 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: don't feel guilty anymore because we're all kind of in 371 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: it together in a way. 372 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: So what were some of the other hurdles that you 373 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: experienced from the get go when it came to going 374 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 2: out every day? So were you going every day to 375 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: run that same mile route? 376 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: Yep, exact same one. And mainly that was because I 377 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: just didn't have time and just the thought of driving 378 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: somewhere else was so overwhelming to me to like find 379 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: another place to run. I felt like any decision was 380 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: gonna you know, I would get decision fatigue. So I'm 381 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: like keeping everything the same, running that same route, running 382 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: the same distance, And yeah, hurdles were really I didn't 383 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: have the right shoes, which took me a long time 384 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: to realize. So I was getting like shin splints. I 385 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: felt like I should be able to go faster, which 386 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: was really just a mental thing, like I didn't understand 387 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: how that worked. Also, not seeing people or like being 388 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: able to relate to anyone that was running slow or 389 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: that looked like me. So yeah, I just felt like 390 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: isolated and felt like I wasn't getting anywhere, which now 391 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: that things I know now, I'm like, well, the like 392 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: that's normal. 393 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 2: There are so many people to this right now, myself included, 394 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: that can totally sympathize and relate to being in that 395 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 2: place feeling as though maybe they didn't see themselves as 396 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: someone who quote unquote looked like a runner, so that 397 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: for an extensive period of time prevented them from lacing 398 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: up at all. So the lesson the takeaway in this story, 399 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: aside from the fact that this provided you with some 400 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: mental solace, was that you had the amount of bravery. 401 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 2: You were brave enough to just start, and that in 402 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: itself is such a sticking point for so many people. 403 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a big thing that I try 404 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: and push is just that you can't, and also like 405 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: taking the seriousness away from it at least to start, 406 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: because if you're not going into it, if your why 407 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: isn't I want to make this time an a marathon or 408 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: I want to run this mile at this pace, then 409 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: take this curiousness away because it's not going to be enjoyable. 410 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: I feel like now they see me just going into 411 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: running to like for mental sanity and just to have fun, 412 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: it's way more approachable for them. And some people don't 413 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: need that. Some people are like, Hey, I'm fast and 414 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to run fast, and I don't really need 415 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: a happy person running in a banana to show me 416 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: to have fun. But I do feel like this huge 417 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: group out there is being overlooked that could really be 418 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: brought into the sport by showing like, hey, not everyone 419 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: serious and there's you know, all these benefits to just 420 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: running for fun. 421 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfortunate that there are people who kind of 422 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 2: shame those runners that are just in it for how 423 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: it makes them. 424 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: Feel, for the fun. 425 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 2: They're not worried the runners themselves about stopping a bunch 426 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: of times when they're on the move, because for them, 427 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: it's not about how many times they stop it's simply 428 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: about getting out there in the first place. So hearing 429 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: more individuals like yourself that are saying, hey, I run, 430 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: and I'm doing it for how it makes me feel. 431 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm doing it because it makes me feel better, it 432 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 2: makes me it helps me show up better. 433 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: Those stories are so important. 434 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. I feel like a lot of people, 435 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: even in this Pittsburgh half marathon that I ran the 436 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: other week, the amount of people that came up to 437 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: me while running and saying this was their first half 438 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: that they signed up because of me, because I showed 439 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: them that you didn't have to be a certain pace, 440 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: you didn't have to run a certain pace to sign 441 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: up for a race. I would like tear up every 442 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: time because I'm like, this is my literal goal, Like 443 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: this is what I'm trying to do, and you guys 444 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: are you know, coming up and telling me these things. 445 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: It's so rewarding to be able to be that person 446 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: that I was looking for when I started running. 447 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 3: Amen. 448 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: So do you recall when you think back to that 449 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: initial thirty day period, how long it took for you 450 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: to notice a legitimate shift in how you were feeling 451 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: about your body and emotionally. 452 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: I really feel like by the end of the thirty days, 453 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: I remember I posted every single day on YouTube, and 454 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: it took me two years, by the way, to go 455 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: back and watch some of those. I hate watching my videos. 456 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: I hate listening to myself talk, so but I was 457 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: genuinely curious because here I'm trying to get new runners 458 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: to be comfortable where they're at, and I was that. 459 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm going to go and just force 460 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: myself to watch some of them. And I think I 461 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: saw a shift at like the two week mark, or 462 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: maybe right after the house points, so that was maybe 463 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: like fifteen or sixteen runs in. I started to be like, wow, 464 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: I think I can complete this month, and I've dealt 465 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: with so much in this month and still got these 466 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: runs in. So I started to piece together these little 467 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: bits of progress. To some people they would be nothing, 468 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: but to me they were huge. So I just kind 469 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: of held onto those, and I'm like, I felt like 470 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: that's what really propelled me forward. 471 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: Right, So to get really specific, because to your point, 472 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: helping people see themselves in this story, what was the 473 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: language like in the first two. 474 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: Weeks, Oh, the first two weeks, it was very much 475 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: like I am sick of I think I literally used 476 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: the words have you ever been so sick of yourself 477 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: that you have to do something about it? Like I 478 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: said that in one of the first videos, and I 479 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: was like, this is my something I'm trying to do, 480 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god. I was really hard 481 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: on myself, Like I was genuinely at that point of 482 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: just like a low point, and I'm like, I have 483 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: to go up from here. So yeah, I would say 484 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: things like that, and then toward the end, like after 485 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: that halfway point, it was more like, hey, we're doing it, 486 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: or hey, look at this scenery here. I started to 487 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: crack jokes. I was like kind of getting my sense 488 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: of humor back, which I didn't have for a while. 489 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: My creativity was coming back, and that all those things. 490 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, I'm really feeling like myself. And 491 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: I could see that come out in those later videos. 492 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: And obviously, now. 493 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: What's really beautiful about this is it paints a holistic 494 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: picture about not only the benefit of movement, but the 495 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: benefit of movement coupled with other things that can help 496 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: us navigate when we are going through hurdles or perhaps 497 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: in your case, postpartum depression. So talking to someone about 498 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: how you're feeling, moving your body, working on that inner 499 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: self talk so that it's not all negative, negative, negative, negative. 500 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: All of it contributes to the greater puzzle of being 501 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 2: able to move forward and get away from those feelings 502 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: of hopelessness, frustration, etc. 503 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: That's such a good point that it's not one thing, 504 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: like if I just ran, that wouldn't have to completely changed. 505 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: Like I still had to talk. I still had to 506 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: talk my feelings out. I still had to you know, 507 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: get fresh air. I still had to eat a little better, 508 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: drink enough water, like all those pieces, and running, yeah, 509 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: absolutely was like that final piece that just everything clicked. 510 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: I think it's also really beautiful when you reflect now 511 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 2: looking back on the interactions that you've had and the 512 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: opportunity that you have come across to help other individuals 513 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: on their journey when it comes to loving movement you 514 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: have chosen. I use that word very specifically and intentionally 515 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: to highlight the benefits and the good when everyone listening 516 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: to this knows that there are some negatives, including unsolicited opinions, 517 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: people weighing in on how they may feel about the 518 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: way that you look or what you're doing. Talk to 519 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: us a little bit about how you navigate that side 520 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: of the coin. 521 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that side I don't put too much energy into 522 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: because very early on I felt the energy shift after 523 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: I read a negative comment and the energy shift after 524 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: I read a supportive comment, and I didn't need to 525 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: really think much about it. I was like, I'm not 526 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: engaging with that, Like I just kind of mentally check 527 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: out because it's just not part of my mission and 528 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. A supportive comment absolutely because someone else 529 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: that might not feel comfortable running is going to go 530 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: to that comment section and read a supportive comment and 531 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: be like, wow, look at this community. There really there 532 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: are people that like what she's doing. So those I 533 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: absolutely engage with, I will pin them I reply. But yeah, 534 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: I have definitely like replied. I've replied to a negative 535 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: comment via video and it said it was probably like 536 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: I always say, ten year old boy, but just a 537 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: really immature person who probably doesn't run. I walk faster 538 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: than or I can walk faster than that, or something 539 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: like that about my mile time because I'm not shy 540 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: about showing my watch at the end, and you know, 541 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 1: if I walked up a hill, that pace is going 542 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: to be really slow. But I don't care. I want 543 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: people to see that that's somebody, a real, real human, 544 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: that is their real pace. And so I replied to 545 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: that video just to show people. I mean, I replied 546 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: to that comment just to show people like how little 547 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: it does for anybody in the grand scheme of things. 548 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: And so I did that once and I left it 549 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: at that. And to be honest, I really don't get 550 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: those comments a lot, unless it's like a brand wants 551 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: to like boost a video, you know what I mean, 552 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: like a sponsored post, and the second they boost it, 553 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: I don't read comments. And it works out beautifully because 554 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: I've already replied to all of my people and we're 555 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: just vibing in the comment session, and then as soon 556 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: as it's boosted, I'm like, see, yeah, not even looking 557 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: at it. 558 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: You have the strategy down. I do a tea now, yeap. 559 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 3: So the story goes. 560 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: Then after the thirty days, clearly you continued running, because 561 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: it's been about two years now at least. Talk to 562 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: us about what the journey has been like since that 563 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: initial thirty days for you. 564 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: Since the initial thirty days. So after after that is 565 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: when I started to realize how much I liked filming 566 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: my runs. I got like a lighter camera, I got 567 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: a GoPro I got I started using my phone, and 568 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: that's when I'm like, I could just post. I could 569 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: just cut this up in a quick little clips and 570 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: put it on TikTok and see what happens. That's when 571 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: that whole thing happened. So like, when I started running, 572 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: I had no following of anything because I would like 573 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: send my videos to my friends or my mom or like, 574 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: look at this. I had some friends on YouTube that 575 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: would watch. But really that was the extent of my 576 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: social media posting. But TikTok really blew it out of 577 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: the water, and I met the most relatable people on there. 578 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that you could grow to where you 579 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: could do this as a job Like that was out 580 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: of the realm of my knowledge. I guess like I 581 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: just assumed someone like me, a average looking mom of 582 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: three that lives in the middle of nowhere, is not 583 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: going to be like you know, you look at Casey Neistat, 584 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: He's a like, very interesting person. He lived in New 585 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: York City, he's a filmmaker. These people have exciting lives 586 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: that I saw doing this social media thing full time. 587 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: So I'm like, that is not me. That's the last 588 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: thing that would happen here. But I still kept posting 589 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: because I'm like, this is very therapeutic and it's creative 590 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: and kind of just like made me feel good. Then 591 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: I started getting brands like fallowllowing me or Team USA 592 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: followed me, and I'm like, is there a bigger thing 593 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: going on here? Or is everyone just laughing at me? 594 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: You know that was a thought I had as well, 595 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, that was a big shift in the storyline. 596 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 2: When a brand like Team USA follows you, And I 597 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 2: ask you this, because we were just talking about time 598 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: not being something that you're conscious of. Does it make 599 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: you feel some kind of way when you may be 600 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: considered or working on certain opportunities where other athletes that 601 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 2: they identify as a professional athlete this is what they do. 602 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: You are in the same sandbox with them, because arguably, 603 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: although yes, you are a content creator, you are also 604 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 2: at this point a professional athlete. 605 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: I look at a professional athlete as someone who like 606 00:35:53,760 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: competes to win an event, but I do, yeah, I 607 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: do get a little worried about that sometimes, But then 608 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: I also look at it like any athlete can if 609 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: they care enough can build an audience. Arguably, it would 610 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: be a lot easier for them to build an audience 611 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: because they do amazing things and they could also do 612 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I think they have more competition because 613 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of athletes, but there's not a lot 614 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: of content creators that are just like out there showing 615 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: their crotch sweat and their shorts riding up their thighs. 616 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: So I think that's like kind of we're maybe getting 617 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: paid by the same brands, but they're for very different reasons. Yea, 618 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: And I look at also, you know, there's athletes like 619 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: Molly's Sidell and Emma Coburn, and I mainly follow the 620 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: women just because I don't know, they created a following 621 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: in there they get brand, you know what I mean. So, 622 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: and Emma has a cookbook like, so I don't feel 623 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: like I'm taking away from it because anyone can, you know, 624 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 1: build a social following, and that's what the brands want. 625 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: They want more eyes on the products. So you crossing 626 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: a finish line first does make like a shoe look 627 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 1: really good, but how many people are seeing you cross 628 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: the finish line first versus how many people are seeing 629 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, like a viral video with the you know 630 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: brand being showcased, and. 631 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: How many people see someone crossing the finish line first 632 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: and can relate to that for themselves, Right. 633 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I think when you look at I, 634 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: I totally I see it from the brand side of things, 635 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: and it is really they're finally seeing that untapped market, 636 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: which is beginner runners. It's the I would argue, bigger 637 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: than the proficient runners, Like there's there. You don't even 638 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: know that they're they don't even know they're runner yet, 639 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: let's put it that way. So they're not even in 640 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: the market at all. They're going to need a lot 641 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: of stuff. They're gonna need the socks, they're going to 642 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 1: need the shoes and the sunglasses, I'll watch everything. Whereas 643 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: these runners that have been running for a while, they 644 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: already have their stuff and they know what they like, 645 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: so you can't really sway them into changing a brand 646 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: or something like that. Whereas this huge market you can 647 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: be like, hey, here's this nice shoe. I like it, 648 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: it's wide, it's you know, it's supportive. So I do 649 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: feel like but to answer your question, to sum it up, 650 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: I did have a lot of guilt when I've got 651 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: my first brand deal. But then I kind of rationalized it, like, oh, okay, 652 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: wait a second. They can have a social following too, 653 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: And although the fact that professional runners, it's unfair to 654 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: them that when they get signed it's not a lot 655 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: of mon I feel like that's a way different story 656 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: than a brand deal, like a brand paying them for 657 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: a campaign, which is what I do. I'm obviously not 658 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: getting signed by a company to like, you know, run 659 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: a race, but that to me is unfair because you 660 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: do look at I mean, obviously football players have like 661 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: a huge audience and stuff, but these people, this is 662 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: their life, like they're running, their training, their nutrition, everything, 663 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: and you're gonna pay them like thirty thousand dollars for 664 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 1: a whole year. Yeah, So I feel like that. I mean, 665 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: that's separate from me, but I do feel like I 666 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: see that as an issue. 667 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: Put this into the world is how I feel we 668 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: should be paying athletes more. Yes, no, and I please. 669 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 2: That's certainly a massive conversation in sport right now, especially 670 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: between pay discrepancies, especially when it comes to pay discrepancies 671 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 2: between men and women, and something that hopefully will see 672 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 2: some upward movement within the next few years. 673 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 3: For sure these days when you. 674 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 2: Are reflect on how you're feeling, where your head is at, 675 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 2: how your mental state is, how you doing. 676 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: I feel very at peace now. I do feel like 677 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: from September of last year till well, it's kind of 678 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: still going, but I've caught up now, I feel like. 679 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: But the New York Times article that came out that 680 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: led to like the Today Show stuff and like People 681 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: magazine and the press whirlwind, which I had zero like 682 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: preparation for or experience in on top of like keeping 683 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: up with my content and trying to do brand deals 684 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: and pay attention to my family, and like that whole 685 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: whirlwind I felt like wasn't even real at if you 686 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: want to really talk about another mental health thing, I 687 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: don't know what that was, but I should probably go 688 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: to therapy to talk that out. Because I was on 689 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 1: set at the Today Show sitting with Hoda and Savannah 690 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 1: and genuinely didn't know if I was actually sitting there. 691 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: Like that's how disconnected I was. I was so confused, 692 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: so confused. 693 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 2: And the New York Times article that you reference here 694 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 2: the headline for a TikTok running star, it's all uphill 695 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: from here. 696 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: I love it. 697 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems as though it accurately depicts where maybe 698 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 2: you felt like you had to go after this drop. 699 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was. I just didn't. I guess I 700 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: didn't anticipate it because first of all, I thought that 701 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: the New York Times interview. I thought it would a 702 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: not end up in the like New York Times at all, 703 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: And if it did, I thought it was going to 704 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: be like one of those little things you see on 705 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: the side a sidebar. Yeah, the sidebar, and they have 706 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: like little blurbs. I thought I would have like a 707 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: little quote in there or something. I did not know 708 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: it was going to be an entire article. I think 709 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: she said that, but I was. I just didn't think 710 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: that that happens. So yeah, it was just very much 711 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome, which I still definitely have, just not as 712 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: bad and not being prepared for. I don't know how 713 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: to I didn't know how to interview or sit on 714 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: a set or where the lights are, what camera to 715 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: look in. People have coaches for that, which I recently learned. 716 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:46,479 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yes, the media tour is coming your way. 717 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And that was that was wild, wild wild. 718 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 2: Well, I really love everything that you've said here about 719 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 2: your journey, and I think also, what has been really 720 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: awesome from you know, my seat over here in Brooklyn 721 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 2: is watching you just get really honest about that. It 722 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 2: is something that you love now, it's something that you 723 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 2: love to do, but that doesn't mean that you don't 724 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 2: have difficult or hard days. So for someone listen to 725 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 2: this that is in that initial phages of phases of 726 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 2: trying to become a more regular runner, what advice do 727 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 2: you have for them? 728 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: I would definitely say. I know people say don't compare 729 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: yourself to others, but I say, don't compare yourself to yourself, 730 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: because that's something that I did at first. I would 731 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: have like a good run and I was shocked that 732 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: the next run was like horrible, and I'm like, it 733 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: would really get me down. I would question myself. I'm like, 734 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 1: how did you know that run was great? And now 735 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 1: this one's bad and I'm never going to get better. 736 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, like don't even don't even compare to yourself, 737 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: and also just trust the process. I felt like my 738 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 1: negative self talk was so harmful when I was training 739 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: for my first marathon, and then when you physically do it, 740 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: you're you're like Oh my body can do that. So 741 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: now I'm like, just trust the process. Just get your run. 742 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: And you have a scheduled run, just do it. You know, 743 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: get that dopamine. 744 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 3: Get it. 745 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 746 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 3: Give a favorite piece of running gear. 747 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: Oh, I really rely on music and podcasts, so probably 748 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: my headphones. I wear shocks headphones. Yeah, I because I'm 749 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: trying to think what would I turn around for if 750 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: I forgot it? 751 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 2: Great question, and I think it's those. Okay, all right, 752 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 2: shocks headphones. What music are you listening to? 753 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: I have a goat my go to playlist on Spotify 754 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 1: if you're curious. It's missus Space Cadet runs. And I 755 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: didn't realize that runners listen to like technoe do whatever 756 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: I go. I would like try and search for running playlists. 757 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: It was all these like I don't know. I guess 758 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: it's called techno. I don't really know, but mine is 759 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: not that. And it's there's anything from like old school 760 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: rap to like early two thousand's indie music, anything with 761 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: like an upbeat thing that gives me energy. That's my 762 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: that's my vibe. 763 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, final question for you, my friend. Right now, 764 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 2: you have an opportunity looking back on your journey. Knowing 765 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 2: what you know now to offer yourself a piece of 766 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: advice back on that first day when you were in 767 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,959 Speaker 2: that low point when you decided to lace up your seat, 768 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 2: what do you tell yourself now? 769 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: I think I would just tell myself it's going to 770 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: be worth it, because that's what I's That was the 771 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: big thing about getting started. What is the point of this? 772 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 2: Like? 773 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 3: Is it worth it? 774 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: Is it worth pushing through when I was just so 775 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: tired or I didn't want to do it, or I 776 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: just wanted to watch a movie and not think about anything, 777 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: Like what is it worth it? You know? Is it 778 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 1: worth it to buy these shoes? 779 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 3: Yeah? So I would. 780 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: I think that's what I would tell myself. It's worth it. 781 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 3: Just keep going, It's worth it, Just keep going. 782 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 2: Aarin, I'm so grateful for your time and for you 783 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 2: sharing your story with us. How do the hurdlers follow 784 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 2: along with you? How do they keep up with you? 785 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: Give us all the details? 786 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:46,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? 787 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: So well, I think the easiest way I've been saying 788 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: lately is just if you google Aaron Asar because my 789 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: Instagram shows up and my TikTok. But yeah, TikTok is 790 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: at missus dot space. Cadet and Instagram is at I'm 791 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: missus space Cadet, and that's the same on. 792 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 3: Twitter, And where's the name come from? 793 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: When I was younger, I lost my lunch money or 794 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 1: I was on some like school trip and I told 795 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: my friend's mom that I lost it, and she was like, 796 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Eron, you're such a space cadet, which 797 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: I don't think people say anymore, but it just means 798 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: you're like really spacey and you don't like pay attention 799 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: and stuff, which is very true. And as I got older, 800 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, I absolutely am that, unfortunately, and I'll just 801 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 1: own it. 802 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,240 Speaker 2: What do you hope that people walk away from looking 803 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 2: at your content with. 804 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: A renewed sense of fun? I said the other day 805 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: that PR now stands for party runner, And yeah, just 806 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: like even a serious runner that might be going through 807 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: a rough patch where they're like not wanting to get 808 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: out there or they're feeling down, just to like be 809 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 1: a little uplifted and go out there with like a 810 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: new mindset. 811 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 3: I love that. Aaron's or I'm so grateful for your time. 812 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 2: I'm over at Hurdle Podcast at Emily a Body Another 813 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 2: hurdle conquered catch you guys next time.