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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast really support Josh Rosen. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined in a room

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? The two thousand and nineteen NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft is in the books. Seven rounds, fifties, six picks

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Speaker 1: to it doesn't matter. What matters is teams now? Wow

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Speaker 1: slacking this year? The draft less compics less movement in

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Speaker 1: days of old. It's one way to look at it.

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Speaker 1: It just feels long enough to me, but it doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel it's a long, long event. It was in Nashville,

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Speaker 1: and uh tytoon fans always getting on me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: because I don't like your quarterback and your team has

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Speaker 1: been a little boring for about twenty years. But well,

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Speaker 1: what I will say was again the draft. They stumbled

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Speaker 1: from under the NFL after the NFL had been in

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Speaker 1: that building for you know, decades doing the draft. It

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Speaker 1: was a great tradition for the old ZUSA. Was great

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Speaker 1: to get back to New York and see family. Everything

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Speaker 1: was perfect about it. And then the garden for you

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Speaker 1: again James Dolan, that guy, the guy after replace as

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Speaker 1: the owner of the Knicks. They go and what leads

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Speaker 1: to the NFL going all around the country every year,

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Speaker 1: and another great, great setting for the draft. I wish

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Speaker 1: we were there. We should be there next year. That's

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Speaker 1: enough of the studio stuff. Let's go to the draft

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Speaker 1: next year. The Nashville setting looked to me. I know,

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Speaker 1: Philly was nice, and Dallas, I guess, but this looked

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Speaker 1: like almost an inaugural address um and in the phobous

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Speaker 1: ones versus the most recent one, which they hyped up

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Speaker 1: to be what it was not. It was massive, and

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Speaker 1: but Dan I do a radio city music hall. You

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Speaker 1: long story short, it's it's a huge hit traveling in

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Speaker 1: we're going to get through all of um the big

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Speaker 1: storylines across the league after the draft, because yes, the

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Speaker 1: rosters now that's it. I mean, there will be moves

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Speaker 1: that happen in repercussions from the seven rounds over the

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Speaker 1: last three days, but the team when you look at

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Speaker 1: your favorite team's roster, now you know this is more

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Speaker 1: or less. This is it now, Greg, this is what

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Speaker 1: you were going to be taken into camp and preparing

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Speaker 1: to try to have a successful season. Yeah, for for

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Speaker 1: the most part, that's true. There's a few lingering issues.

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Speaker 1: Who knows if there could be veteran trade still out there,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't happen over this this draft week, and

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Speaker 1: coming up? Oh yes, one of Gregg Greg's uh most

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Speaker 1: Doesn't a couple of months, almost two weeks you've called

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Speaker 1: his mock draft, any other final takeaways that we all have.

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Speaker 1: But let's start with uh, winners and losers. I'll get

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Speaker 1: main storyline entering the draft, um the Arizona Cardinals, who,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if there was a regime change that

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Speaker 1: my loser's list. But just because it kind of came

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Speaker 1: out of nowhere, we don't know how these rookies are

430
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Speaker 1: going to be. But knowing that Doug Baldwin UH is

431
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Speaker 1: examining the end of his career and the way that

432
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Speaker 1: the front office talked about broken that broke on Friday,

433
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Speaker 1: He's had a ton of surgeries and what they said

434
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Speaker 1: was they're working through the process with the league and

435
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Speaker 1: the players Union having to deal with some stuff with Baldwin,

436
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Speaker 1: which tells me, or at least indicates they're probably working

437
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Speaker 1: on some contractual stuff in terms of his guaranteed money

438
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Speaker 1: in a very similar way to Camp Chancellor that his

439
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: career might be over, but they're trying to figure out

440
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Speaker 1: the money and that's a killer loss for the c

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Speaker 1: If you said that Doug Baldwin is the most underrated

442
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Speaker 1: skill position player of the last half decade, I think

443
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: every Seahawks FAMI would be nodding. In unison um, you

444
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Speaker 1: brought up the the Chiefs and the Tyreek Hill replacement

445
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Speaker 1: who they hope to be. UH. The Georgia player Hardman,

446
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Speaker 1: and it's just to me, it is such a bad

447
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: situation obviously. I mean, it's a tragic situation when you

448
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: look at the what's going on with Tyrek Hill and

449
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Speaker 1: and all that. And for the Chiefs, this is a

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Speaker 1: team that was right on the doorstep of the super

451
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Speaker 1: Bowl and now they're in a place where there's this

452
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Speaker 1: drama unfolding on the first night of the draft and

453
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Speaker 1: then the next night of the draft. They are essentially

454
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Speaker 1: what it all seems like, is your replacing Tyreek Hill

455
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Speaker 1: with this kid, and for a team that's super Bowl

456
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Speaker 1: or bus mode, that seems like a risky move. They

457
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Speaker 1: have to do it. It's a roll of the dice.

458
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Speaker 1: They're gonna hope that he'll hit the ground running. If not,

459
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is not going to be the same producer

460
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Speaker 1: he was last year. That's how big Hill was. So

461
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Speaker 1: it's just a massive um roll of the dice and

462
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: hope that they could plug and play this kid and

463
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Speaker 1: find ways to put up points the way they did

464
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Speaker 1: last year. And they're just vulnerable. The Chiefs are in

465
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Speaker 1: a way that I would never have imagined it. Um

466
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Speaker 1: in January in a division where the Chargers only got

467
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Speaker 1: better and they and they kept, you know, releasing There

468
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Speaker 1: were at least a few more statements on Tyreek Hill,

469
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Speaker 1: but they all were kind of the same that essentially

470
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Speaker 1: that he's been sent home from team activity. They said

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Speaker 1: that you're the chiefs owner made a statement that he

472
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Speaker 1: was deeply disturbed. They have not indicated yet that they're

473
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Speaker 1: going to release him. The public is not going to

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Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, I'm not sure what the what the

475
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Speaker 1: timing like, Well, we'll just have to see. It's an

476
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Speaker 1: impossible situation for the team to be in. I mean,

477
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Speaker 1: they knew what they were getting into with Tyreek Hill

478
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Speaker 1: when they drafted him, So it's not like it's a

479
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Speaker 1: total look what happened to us here. But the longer

480
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Speaker 1: the straws out, you can't just keep on putting out

481
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Speaker 1: statements saying I've disappointed you are. People are gonna want actions,

482
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: and that's gonna intensify um the pressure and bad vibes

483
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Speaker 1: around the team. It's a it's a very tough about

484
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Speaker 1: there in Well, Tarik Hill is not an exception. This

485
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: is the chickens are coming home to roost on an

486
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Speaker 1: organizational philosophy about taking chances on players with character issues,

487
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Speaker 1: and I wonder John Dorsey is part of that kind

488
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Speaker 1: of take taking that with him a little bit to Cleveland.

489
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Speaker 1: At least if what happened the last two days happened

490
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: last week, I wonder if the Frank Clark trade would

491
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Speaker 1: have gone down considering his past. I'm gonna throw out

492
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Speaker 1: another loser for the week, Joe Flacco. Who is grouchier

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Speaker 1: about having a between West and Greg Right, No, I'll

494
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Greig. Well, I'm just saying who is grouchier

495
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Speaker 1: about having a rookie quarterback behind him? I don't blame

496
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Speaker 1: him than Joe Flacco last year. And then he made

497
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Speaker 1: he made some comments since bred Farves I made some

498
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Speaker 1: comments leading up into the draft. Uh that made it clear,

499
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Speaker 1: of course he doesn't want them to draft a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He really didn't want it with number ten, but he said, yeah,

501
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Speaker 1: I want this team to get in the best position

502
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Speaker 1: possible to be at its best with me at the

503
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Speaker 1: quarterback position. Obviously, Uh, it's not that important. It's not

504
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: of the most important to draft a quarterback. If we do,

505
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: that's completely out of my control. And they take Drew

506
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Speaker 1: Lock number forty two overall, who is different than Flacco.

507
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Speaker 1: Both has a big arm um kind of you know,

508
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: is getting the reputation, you know, maybe the profile of

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Speaker 1: a of a Cutler type and you know, gonna take

510
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: a lot of chances, has a big arm kind of

511
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: fun to watch. But Flacca has got to know they're

512
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Speaker 1: three and five fans are gonna want him, and and

513
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: and he's always hamp at guy and Mike Clice, who

514
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Speaker 1: you know, seems to have a pretty good bee line

515
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Speaker 1: into always mind said Drew lock was the number one

516
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Speaker 1: quarterback on the Broncos board, which is something we heard

517
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Speaker 1: before the draft. So even though he was taking forty

518
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Speaker 1: second overall, to me, that means they think he's a

519
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Speaker 1: first round type of talent. And flaccoes, you know, starts

520
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: the year with a short leash. I mean, sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I would say all that is fair. I would look

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Speaker 1: at it slightly differently that Joe Flacco got no a

523
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Speaker 1: fan which he desperate. He got Dalton Reisner and he

524
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Speaker 1: needs they need to hear your offensive line help, and

525
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: they waited to the second round to take a quarterback

526
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Speaker 1: who was not NFL ready. If you're Joe Flacco, you say, hey,

527
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Speaker 1: the offense is better this team can be a contender

528
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Speaker 1: if I play up to my potential. If I don't

529
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Speaker 1: get it done, I don't get it done. And all

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Speaker 1: you're asking for. The only disturbing DNA is that if

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Speaker 1: you're You're Flacco and you're in that stage of your

532
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: career where wherever you go, people are drafting the guy

533
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Speaker 1: behind you. And all last offseason we thought about Flacco

534
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Speaker 1: is sort of, oh, we're not gonna see Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: He's not ready to go. Well, as soon as they

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Speaker 1: removed Joe Flacco they go on like a six seven

537
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Speaker 1: game run to the playoffs. There's some thought that, oh, well,

538
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Speaker 1: if Joe Flacco is holding the offense back at all,

539
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: we've got this guy we drafted. It worked for the Ravens.

540
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: It's a different situation put the young guys, and I

541
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Speaker 1: think he's as annoying, like on a day to day

542
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: level that he's gonna have to answer questions about it.

543
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: Every single press is gonna be in the in the

544
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Speaker 1: room with with your lock. But I would give John

545
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Speaker 1: always taking a lot of fire on this. But I

546
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: think a nice little winner job because he traded down

547
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Speaker 1: for fans. He used that pick to wind up trading

548
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: back up for Lock and I and I agree, the

549
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: talent that he got was pretty intriguing. I'm with you

550
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: on that, and I you know, I'm always getting on

551
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: l Way, But I think and I didn't think he

552
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: was going to take a quarterback in the first round.

553
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: He didn't the second round and taking him without having

554
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Speaker 1: a trade up, and he and you and you just

555
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: get him at forty trade up. Sorry, but he did

556
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Speaker 1: get at forty two. Overall, there's not an outstanding amount

557
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: of pressure on l Way to nail this one like

558
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: it would have been if he took Lock at ten,

559
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Speaker 1: for instance. Uh So, it gives you a little bit

560
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: of leeway there as the boss. And then on top

561
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Speaker 1: of it, just gives the organization more flexibility because he

562
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: may really believe in Flacco, um and other people may

563
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: really believe in Flacco. But if it doesn't work out

564
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: before this strap, they would really have nowhere to go,

565
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: and now they do. Now they have a kid they

566
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: could put into the mix, and the organization just has

567
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: more flexibility. Insurance has sold for a reason. Absolutely, how

568
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: about another winner? Anybody got another winner? Can I throw

569
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Speaker 1: up my loser first? Okay? Yeah, I have Chris Westling.

570
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: I hate to do this to my hometown, but I

571
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: don't know the Bengals defense to borrow at Patrick Claybon

572
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: term was trash juice for most of last year. And

573
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: the biggest impact player they've they've added is what a

574
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: third round linebacker Jermaine Pratt. They did not improve this

575
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: defense nearly enough from last season. They they probably think

576
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: they're getting some players back from injury, especially in the secondary,

577
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: would help, but I'm with you that on on paper,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's quite enough. I think a quick,

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Speaker 1: a quick winner would be the Niners defense. You had

580
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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa, You've had a d Ford DeForrest Buckner's there,

581
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: Eric Armstead. Solomon Thomas was whispered as a trade Kennedy,

582
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: but he's still around you if you're Roberts, So if

583
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Speaker 1: you're the defensive Cordey, you don't have a real reason

584
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: for this defense not to take a major step forward.

585
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: I think a winner and unfortunately lose. The losers are

586
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: football fans. Also would be Andy Dalton, because that's great

587
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: that you took Ryan Finley, but if you go read

588
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: the scouting report on Ryan Finley, it sounds like almost

589
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: a shakier version of Ryan of Andy Dalton. They jumped

590
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: at him to be the backup. That's what I'm saying.

591
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: He's essentially back up. And yeah, they traded up for it.

592
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: But Driscoll played last year and said, we need a

593
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: better backup. It's the opposite of Arizona, where it said

594
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 1: we have a coach who's a young offensive mind, and

595
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: we're going to mold this team and give you everything

596
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: you need the same way that Kyle Shanahan was treated

597
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. You're Zach Taylor. You're stuck with Andy

598
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: Dalton and very little else has changed. Like, who would

599
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: you if you were looking to upgrade Dalton and this draft?

600
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: Who would you? I'm not saying it's the greatest draft

601
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: of all time, but they I would say it's the

602
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: It's the eighth or ninth year in a row where

603
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: they refused to bring in a real challenger to Haskins.

604
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: They could have taken Haskins, but I think they thought

605
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: that wasn't big enough of a difference. You know, maybe

606
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: between Dalton, but they've evaluated this poor lead for almost

607
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: a decade at this point. At this point, you got

608
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: to give them a little bit of a fresh start.

609
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: I think they'd like to see what Taylor can do

610
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: with Dalton, and you get the sense that's how he

611
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: sold himself to them to get the job, to at

612
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: least see what they look like together for one year.

613
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not. I mean, to me, that is

614
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: a raging yawn. Like I it is that team needs

615
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: a fresh start at quarterback. Two words you don't usually

616
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: here together. But I like, like they're they're playing at

617
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: the trouber door later tonight. It's like when Greg described

618
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: D'Angelo Williams is wildly patient. Um, Greg, it's happening. It's

619
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Speaker 1: the second time, and I think three weeks I have

620
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: to say this, but the loser here is your boy,

621
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: the inconvenient truth and maybe any bills running back over

622
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: the age of thirty, because you know, they go and

623
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Speaker 1: they get t j yelled in a nice young third

624
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Speaker 1: down back and then they draft this guy, uh, this kid,

625
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary. So now Gore's in a tough spot because

626
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: they also said afterwards, Sean McCoy, that's what I thought,

627
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: But one or both of those guys are history. Brandon

628
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: being you know, because he got that question after the

629
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Speaker 1: draft said Lashawn McCoy is going to be part of

630
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Speaker 1: our team. He's an important Frank, We're going to be

631
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: a gunner on this team. What's the move? I mean

632
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: gore or yelled in or both won't make the team.

633
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: They can make. They can save some serious coin if

634
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: they move on from Lashawn McCoy. Yeah, or not or

635
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: another general manager was just standing at the podium line

636
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: teeth like which like we've seen throughout the office, Leshawn

637
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: McCoy also apparently and I'm not really plugged in on

638
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: the superhero movies, but oh yeah, spoiled this new Avengers

639
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: people are really a huge story. It was all over

640
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: the world. It was like a cork or of because

641
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Speaker 1: I I read it once I saw the story because

642
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't care about the spoiler, and uh and it was.

643
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: It was. It was pretty. It was as spoiler as

644
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: you can. And then he backed it up with even

645
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: more like he he didn't multiples. And that's fine if

646
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: we think it's funny because you don't care about Avengers.

647
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't care about any But if you were, like,

648
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: then stay off Twitter before you see the movie, like

649
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: that's on you. But it can't. But Greg, that's a

650
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: little bit crazy just to blame everyone else. That's a

651
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: that's an a whole move by Leon. I'm saying, if

652
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: it's that important life, alright, that's what I'm saying. There's

653
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: there's there's evidence that he's this kind of guy. Okay,

654
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: but I didn't do it to it. It says something

655
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: about these um Marvel fans. Leshawn McCoy could treat people

656
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: like trash for the last eight years, over and over

657
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: and over again, and they don't have a problem with

658
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: it until he reveals. Why are we assuming they don't

659
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: have a problem with that? They probam most of them

660
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: probably didn't even know who Leshaun mcoy was until this happened.

661
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: Talking about football writers who have been voicing them, Well

662
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: that that's fine, but what if they Now you're all

663
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: in on Game of Thrones West, what if he came

664
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: in and dropped here so it could happen to you? Here? Here,

665
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: here's here's here's a note. I don't care ever about spoilers.

666
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: Why I care that much about spoilers? It's on me.

667
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: That's fine, But you are a You are not in

668
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: the majority when it comes to this. People need to

669
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: get a lot. So we're just gonna take everyone else down.

670
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: It's so great what Leshawn McCoy did. He's no, it's not.

671
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: I have huge problems he did, butlers just like it

672
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: was based on the tone of it. I don't think

673
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: in this case, I know it's amazing. This is the

674
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: most fire up the room because I don't like right

675
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: away like just just I'm not it's going to make

676
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: more money than any movie ever. Everyone who goes to

677
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: see it stay off Twitter for five days because Lashawn

678
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: McCoy wants to have his fun. I'm just saying, if

679
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: it's that important to you that it's really going to

680
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: cause consternation, yeah, or see the movie, right. And of

681
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: course it was clear from the way he wrote it,

682
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: by the way it was like it wasn't He wasn't

683
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: trying to spoil he was like excited to talk about

684
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: the movie and just like, wow, it's crazy that Like,

685
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: isn't that crazy? Bros? You know? Just um And of

686
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: course the spoiler is that Captain America and the incredible

687
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Hulk um Love become Communists and moved to Russia. I mean,

688
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: you could have seen that coming if you I mean,

689
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: we not watch these but if you had you'd see

690
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: that coming. And yes, re established the communist stronghold that

691
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: we've never seen before. Political. How about a winner the

692
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: Patriots offensive physicality While the rest of the league is

693
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: spreading out speak. Yeah, while the rest of the league

694
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: is spreading out and getting lighter, I feel like the

695
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 1: Patriots are doubling down on what worked for them at

696
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: the end of last season, which was getting a little

697
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: more condensed, uh, be a little more physical. They get

698
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: a physical receiver and Nikile Harry who can take some

699
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: of those red zone snaps. They get Damien Harris, very

700
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: surprising pick to me, uh, the starting running back over

701
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs who was the first round pick for the

702
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: Raiders at Alabama, Who's a physical, big running back. I mean,

703
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: they've got a million running backs right now. They take

704
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: a right tackle type at the end of the third round,

705
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: and I mostly like that. They actually took their picks

706
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: for the most part. They moved around the board, but

707
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: they took six guys in the first three rounds, right

708
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: or five guys in the first three rounds. They took

709
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 1: a second round pick. They want years without these top

710
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: sixty picks, and they need some lifeblood, like they need

711
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Jowan Williams their cornerback. They need Chase one of which

712
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: uh to come through because it just doesn't have a

713
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: lot of young players on this roster right now. But

714
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: they're all kind of of the same type physical back

715
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: in on the Patriots. I like, I mean, I want

716
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: to see these uh. I want to see him be competitive.

717
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: I think they'll be competitive. I don't think everybody about that. UH.

718
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: And one last time, I will call it him a loser,

719
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: but we a loser or someone that's you know, in danger.

720
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: But back earlier this month, UH, we talked about who

721
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 1: should be nervous about the NFL Draft. I remember bringing

722
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: up Todd Gurley is one of them. And then you know,

723
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: maybe the Rams find somebody that's gonna potentially take some

724
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: of his workload. Well, the Rams did take a running

725
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: back in the third round. Sean McVeigh was on NFL

726
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: Network and kind of played the whole thing down and

727
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: and and said, it's just another complimentary offense. Perhaps it is,

728
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: but it's something that bears to bear watching here because

729
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: we don't know what the status is. He's a really

730
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: different type of running back. But they it adds to

731
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: the fact that they matched the lines offer from Malcolm Brown,

732
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: so you do have, you know, sort of much more

733
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: of a stable here. But Darryl Henderson is like described

734
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: as sort of a boom bust like dude that either

735
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: runs for like a fifty yard touchdown or does not.

736
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: I think if you look at some of the best

737
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: teams in the league, a lot of them, the more

738
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: running backs the better. I think that really helps that.

739
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: I think it's really helped the Patriots to have different

740
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: types of running backs and have three or four guys.

741
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: I was surprised to see that the Eagles take Miles

742
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: Sanders from Penn State with one of their second round picks,

743
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: but they like having three, four or five running backs

744
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: to They're a team that, like if you look at

745
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: the start, it was all offense, Andre Dillard Sanders, and

746
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: they took J j R. Sega Whiteside like guys that

747
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: might not even see the field right away. But they

748
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: just have so much depth on their offense at every position,

749
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: especially running back. I was a little nervous kind of

750
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: moving more into general takeaways of the draft, ready to

751
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: just one last winner, Sure do it well. We talked

752
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: about what the Patriots have lost and what's going on

753
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs and Tyreek Hill. The Chargers got better

754
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: while these two teams got worse. And the Chargers are

755
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: building one of the best defenses in the NFL. They

756
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: pick up Nasa Adderley and Jerry Tillery Drew Tranquil for

757
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: their defense, which was already loaded from last year. They

758
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: signed Thomas Davis. This is this is to me, the

759
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: team to beat in the NFC and the culture right

760
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: there too. You know, Greg hillery Um is a avid,

761
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: skilled tennis player. I listened to him do an interview

762
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: with Lindsay Roles ut Nate and he number one sounded

763
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: Lolly's rookies because you know these events and it's like

764
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: they are trained and they are good at saying nothing

765
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: interesting at all. He's completely opposite. Yeah, then I think

766
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: like that was one. And he also has this background

767
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: in finance where he, you know, can he made a

768
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: lot of money at the stock market and has a

769
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: coming like that was one of those things scouts didn't like.

770
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: Oh this guy, he's too smart, plays and he plays tennis.

771
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: They didn't like that about Rosen either. Someone should say

772
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: that three three days ago, the Washington Redskins were a

773
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: punching bag and everybody was taking shots at them, and

774
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: they came out of this draft way better than people

775
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: thought they would to pick up Dwayne Haskins and Montest

776
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: Sweat in the first round and then Terry McLaren, one

777
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: of my favorite players in the draft. Their front seven

778
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: now on defense after taking the flyer on Reuben Foster

779
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: is stacked. This is this is a pretty good defense.

780
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: They picked up Landing Collins. They're weird because if you

781
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: just look at their roster, if they got quarterback play,

782
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: you can serve if you were a fan, you can

783
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: certainly make the argument it's like that could be a

784
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: ten win team. But I don't know, I just don't

785
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: trust it. Somehow he usually goes wrong. But on paper,

786
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you, it looks pretty There are another team

787
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: that took They took Bryce Love, the Stanford running back

788
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: who has he's going to rehab this year probably, but

789
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: was awesome in And it was another one of those

790
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 1: things that triggered Darius guys to respond on social media

791
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: with one of those smiley or non smiley faces, just

792
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: like a face like excuse me, what say? What say?

793
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: What I mean? Skepticism is advised. It's just that the

794
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: bar is so low for the Redskins when everybody's just

795
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: laughing at that them three. Then that was the emoji

796
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: that are our friend David Eally and Andrew Gruver translated

797
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: for Rich Eisen. Uh, it's kind of like a non

798
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: plus and rather again got a shout out during the

799
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: draft on NFL network. That's big time. I mean, David

800
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: really is going to be popping champagne. He didn't get

801
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: to pop it at Super Bowl fifty, but he pops

802
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: it tonight because he gets referenced on national television. Uh.

803
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: Some takeaways, You know one thing when you watch the draft.

804
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: And by the way, I absolutely cracked the code on

805
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: how to watch the draft. I don't think the bosses

806
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 1: will get mad for this angle because I think you're

807
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: still giving them the rating. And I'm not a Nielsen

808
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: family anyway, it doesn't matter. Well anyway, getting lost in

809
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: the weeds here, so we all collect that we didn't

810
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: come into the office Friday, so we watched UM rounds

811
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: two and three from our homes or whatever. I did

812
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: the thing where you wait an hour, you DVR the draft,

813
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: You wait an hour, you get away from social media.

814
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: You know you don't need to be dug into social

815
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: media all times, so there's no concerns about spoilers. I

816
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: waited sixty to eighty minutes then started the draft, and

817
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: my goodness, how incredible you get to wipe out all

818
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: the popping circumstance, all the commercials ned from Verizon, the

819
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: broken Pelvis guy, everything, Just get Pelvis Verizon guy. Please? Yeah?

820
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: What is with that? That commercial air at approximately seven

821
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: times UM which is a thousand times less than Old

822
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Town Road was played? Right? What else? Other takeaways? My

823
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 1: one issue with the draft along the whole televised line,

824
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: which I don't know how to fix it, so maybe

825
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: don't even raise it, but I'm going to, is that,

826
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: like if you were writing, um, like a book or

827
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: a screenplay and you said, I'm gonna make the first

828
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: act exciting, but it's gonna just get worse from there,

829
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Like the story is gonna unravel and it's going to

830
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: become a chore to read or to endure. Why, Like

831
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: the draft needs to find a way to make the

832
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: final of it more tolerable for the viewer. No, it doesn't,

833
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: because what it does, what this industry has done, is

834
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: turned this into a massive television event, and you know,

835
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: but it's bad, bad, traumatic structure. To have the first

836
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: part of it be good but then it's completely flaw

837
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: We our boss, one of our boss is one of

838
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: our many todd Sperry suggested they should do the picks

839
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: in reverse. Now, that would take it well. He said,

840
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: do the entire draft and then release them in reverse,

841
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: which is not a terrible idea. I mean, it was

842
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: supposed to be, like what the draft is, was never

843
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: supposed to be a fifteen our TV show. It got

844
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: turned into that. So that's my issue in the NFL

845
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: andes and everybody has to work. There are darnedests to

846
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: make it entertaining for all that time. But really, at

847
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: the heart of it, it's just a draft. There's not

848
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: much you can do with it. It's a draft. It's

849
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: just that was polling up to a microphone and talking.

850
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: I was amazed that the crowd that was there on Saturdays,

851
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: especially there's no players there. There was just I don't know,

852
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: it was cool, but it was. It's kind of crazy.

853
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm happy for people who are in to the draft.

854
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: I had to explain to Lakisha earlier today that this

855
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: is not for for me personally. This is not a

856
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: television event. It is something I can get the results

857
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: online as soon as they happen, and now they just happen.

858
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: My take one take away I have is the Panthers

859
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: fans and and this happens basically when any quarterback is drafted.

860
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: Need to calm down. When uh, you draft Will Greer

861
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: late in the third round, you know, A, you're not

862
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: wasting your pick by taking a quarterback backup. Quarterbacks are

863
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: incredibly valuable, and especially when you have to start Tyler

864
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: Heineke and Kyle Allen and you know NFL games in

865
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: the regular season, Allen looked like unitis. Right, How did

866
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: Charlie Castle wants tell us? You know, the most important

867
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: person in your organization is the quarterback, and the second

868
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: most important person in your organization is your backup quarterback.

869
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: I would go third, and then the quarterback coach. Don't

870
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: have it in me? Uh, you know, like there doesn't

871
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: need to be a controversy every time a quarterback has

872
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: taken you it's so deep in the draft, like the

873
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: Patriots have taken four or five. I can't remember when

874
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell was taken quarterbacks higher than Will Greer was taken.

875
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: For the Panthers. It doesn't mean anything about Cam Newton,

876
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: but Cam Newton is an injury prone starter now the

877
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: last couple of years. And yeah, it's good to have, Like,

878
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: it's a great investment. It's not a waste of a pick,

879
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: like half your third round picks end up stinking. Anyways,

880
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: it was. It does two things. It gives you a

881
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: backup and it gives you a chance to build his

882
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: value and flip him for even more value if he

883
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: plays well when Cam Newton gets injured. Um, circling back

884
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: to my Nielsen's story and the fast forwarding of the

885
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: DVR and how it's a great move. Well, yeah, the

886
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: guys want the exciting conclusion. So when we when they

887
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: did get to the Jets pick at at six. Overall,

888
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: you know you stop and play and you listen. You

889
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: know you're really plugged in for it and what you

890
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: really want. And this could be any any person watching

891
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: the draft and their favorite team. You wanted the pick

892
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: to be made and then instantly, uh, you want DJ move,

893
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: the sticks to be on fire. You want Charles Davis

894
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: to b I love this pig. This is incredible. Uh,

895
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: it's always the worst where it's just a little quiet,

896
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: and they're just like, well this you know, and you

897
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: boomer bust gets thrown out there. Um. When the Jets

898
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: took Jakai Polite polite outside the line background of Florida, Um,

899
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: it was I would say a little muted the response.

900
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: But he was not liked well by them. And then

901
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: ESPN did a little writing up about it that his

902
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: scouting combined performance was awful on and off the field.

903
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: One NFL scout said Polite, Uh, he doesn't have issues.

904
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: He is an issue. The same scout called him arrogant

905
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: and not a team player. Well, that that's a boomer

906
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: bus pick right there, gentlemen. Can I give you some

907
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: optimism on this one? I would say this is one

908
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: of the few names where in January the draft nicks

909
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: who were grinding the tape really he stood out and

910
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: they loved him. And then it wasn't until he started

911
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: acting a fool at the mine that everyone was like,

912
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: oh this guy. He got mad about the path he didn't.

913
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: He got mad at the packers for how they he

914
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: didn't like. He's like a knuck called. But his his

915
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: combined time was unimpressive and then his his protade time

916
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: was almost the possibly worse than the combine time. So

917
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: to me, it's a major red flag when the guys

918
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: out of shape during the draft runup. Maybe he also

919
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: had like eleven sacks last year and was kind of

920
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: a beast, so maybe he'll be a study. Are you

921
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: Are you at all worried Dan about the very There

922
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: was multiple reports, you know, not from big time sources,

923
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: although one of them was Michael Lombardi ready in the

924
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: Athletic kind of as a throwaway about some maccagnan gaze

925
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: heat and then more more surprisingly to me, that mccagnan

926
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: could lose his job. And there there have been also

927
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: from reputable sources. I forget which national writer it was,

928
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: whether it's Ian or Adam Shutter had said watch out

929
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: there could be some big time shakeups after the draft

930
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: in some front offices, but they didn't say who. Um,

931
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: I guess I wouldn't. I want stability, every organization, every

932
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: fan base wants stability, So I wouldn't love it if

933
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: if a big mac got fired. But I also will say, like,

934
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like mccagnon deserves to have this job, absolutely,

935
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: and and there's something he's done, some tremendous job. The

936
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: middle round picks, especially Um he has been very hit

937
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: or miss. More on the miss side he is, because

938
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: they've had so many poor teams, has gotten a lot

939
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: of high first round picks into his credit. I think

940
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: he's done a good job in the first round, and

941
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: it was a great trade last year to get Donald.

942
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: So if they fired him tomorrow that would be a

943
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: big shock. But I also wouldn't be like they just

944
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: let a guy out the door that was really gonna

945
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: build this team and put them into the SuperM. I

946
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: think they're the only team that hasn't won at least

947
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: six games in a season over the last three years,

948
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: which is his second, third and fourth year. I think

949
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: every other NFL team is. I just feel where ever

950
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze seems to wind up, there are hints of

951
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: internal power struggle because I feel like you never was

952
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: on the same page with Miami's front office. Is certainly

953
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: the later incarnation of it, the one we're getting now,

954
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: And there's never been drama around Mike mccagnen with other

955
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: people inside the Jets buildings. Suddenly it's been whispered about,

956
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, power struggle. Headlock watch. Yeah, there's it's a

957
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: headlock watch. It's always gonna be heating the kitchen in

958
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: a floor, and I kind of like it. It's kind

959
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: of fun as long as it doesn't get out of it.

960
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: I like that you're basically just going with it because

961
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: you've got But you know what, when I when I

962
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: look at it, yes, that would be very Jets for

963
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: there to be some big soap opera blowout, right blow up,

964
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: right when the Giants are up in flames, and you're

965
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: you're the stable franchise in New York, but unbalanced. I'm

966
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: very happy and excited and optimistic about the direction of

967
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: the team and how there are some real blue chip

968
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: players on both sides of the ball now and uh

969
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: and a new coaching staff that, while combustible. Also, I

970
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: kind of excited about seeing how how Williams and Gays

971
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: do um with the offense and defense. You said on

972
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: Thursday night West Dan Oh, that I think this is

973
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: the most I don't know if excited is the right word.

974
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: Maybe it was that I've been about the Jets since

975
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: I've known Dan. You don't dread turning on the tape

976
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: potentially this year, right. I think my biggest problem with

977
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: the Jets is they've been ultra boring, but they get

978
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: so much media coverage, and now they're gonna get media coverage,

979
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: but they might not be boring. Um. Any other thoughts

980
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: before we move on, We got to check it out

981
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: with a couple of the things. Let's move on, all right,

982
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: Mark your mock draft. Let's set the two thousand nineteen

983
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler mock draft where he ended up. Alright, not bad, Mark,

984
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: not bad. You had by my account, really by Mark's count,

985
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: he set this along his PR team. All right, So yeah,

986
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: break it down as you we may need to. Kyler Murray,

987
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: like when the president releases his own approval radio. Well,

988
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: I don't put that parallel out there. Kyler Murray and

989
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: Nick Bolson one too. You got that right, You nailed it,

990
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: but a lot of people did. Those were the spots nailed.

991
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: These last four you got the right landings and not

992
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: the right spots are necessarily even the rounds. But half

993
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: point right, well it is, but half I have something

994
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: to say about Josh right now. You don't need to

995
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: say anything else. Dwayne Haskins to the Redskins, Mark predicted

996
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: rue Lock to the Broncos, Josh Jacobs to the Raiders,

997
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: and DK Metcalf to the Seahawks, not necessarily where Mark

998
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: had these guys all going in the first round, not

999
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: only not necessarily, not not all of them went in

1000
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: the first round. But you know what he got the

1001
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: team's right. I give you fractions positive for three of

1002
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: those picks. But Josh Jacobs, everyone else in the community

1003
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: got this pick right, and you did well. Hold on,

1004
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: there were a lot of other things that a lot

1005
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: of people all got right that I did not give

1006
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: I should get credit for not zaggy off of Josh Jacobs.

1007
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: All right, that's fair. I mean, I you know, I

1008
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: was the one that went a little extra with Quentnin

1009
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: Williams and dropped him like five spots lower than everyone

1010
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: else had. So you know, didn't make the mistake with

1011
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. And the only thing what would have really

1012
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 1: driven things home for you is if you were able

1013
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: to get that quarterback. The Patriots did draft the quarterback,

1014
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: but not the one that you predicted as a half well,

1015
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: and the Panthers selected Will Greer one spot before New

1016
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: England the clock. How mad were you? I mean at

1017
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: that point I mentally and emotionally dead at that But

1018
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots also had had to pick three spots before

1019
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: the panthers, and then they traded down behind them. I know,

1020
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: but Greg, you don't need to say that. You don't

1021
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: need you don't need to add the always the footnote

1022
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: free free, We don't. It was just it. It doesn't

1023
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: indicate anything. Just let it go. The indicate they wouldn't

1024
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: take career, let it go. I call it a success,

1025
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: the first annual mark best well, vaguely the vague success,

1026
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: but vague lipop. I mean from another angle, a a

1027
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: an incredible failure, because I mean your brand really took,

1028
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, a leap, I think in a cottage industry,

1029
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: really mired in a group thinks swamp. You are not afraid. Wait,

1030
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: so how many pink for yourself on these picks? How

1031
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: many picks did you get? Right? Well, I'm getting half

1032
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: of a half credit for halfy for um correct landing spots,

1033
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: but not at the pick. If you're curious, I was

1034
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: like over one, under was three and I surpassed you.

1035
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: I was looking for some of you credit for the

1036
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: half right I was looking for if it was like

1037
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: a tough year or not. I can't find a big

1038
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: scale one, but at least mcshade Jeremiah and Kiper mcshade

1039
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: and Jeremiah both at nine. Right, I heard it. Silva

1040
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: came in again. I'm not got ten? Oh no, I

1041
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: think he won again? Wait? Why is that? Why is it?

1042
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to establish a brand here with Mark

1043
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: Sel but I'm looking at the standings and it's not

1044
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: as good as I thought. Mark's brand doesn't care about

1045
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: whether he gets it right or not. I spent a

1046
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: day and a half on it. What if I actually

1047
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: spent two weeks on it. My goal is to make

1048
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: Mark a huge brand and then ride his coattails to

1049
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: a couple of hundred grand I think the avenue to

1050
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: that is not through accuracy, right that I would agree with.

1051
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: Let's not make that the avenue that check in. We

1052
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: go get my lunch and uh, all right, Chris Wesling

1053
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: actually Greg Rosenthal by percentage points is I'm looking at um?

1054
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: You finished seven and four first place in the draft. Um,

1055
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: go get my lunch? Dot org Nick fourtier. The man

1056
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: tracks all of our predictions over the course of the

1057
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: season and through the league year. Uh, let's see, the

1058
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: universal prop was Josh Rose and what team will he

1059
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: be on? On Sunday a job by West. Chris Westling

1060
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: nails it. He's got the Dolphins. The organic fish tank

1061
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: does not let you down with well that thank you

1062
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: to Greg for this, because if you recall, Mark and

1063
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: I both had the Cardinals. Greg said he wanted the Cardinals.

1064
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: I didn't want three people in the Cardinals, and I

1065
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: kind of had a funny feeling about the Dolphins. Anyway,

1066
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: Greg gave me an excuse to jump off. Um. So yes,

1067
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: West got that one. But Greg won the overall round

1068
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: at seven and four. West won seven and five. Though,

1069
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: But uh, Greg, you said, Raiders draft to QB in

1070
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: round one. That cost you the sandwiches. But then you uh,

1071
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: then you hit on one. Patriots don't draft a tight

1072
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: end within the first two rounds, which I got a

1073
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: couple on Dan and I got killed on that. Did

1074
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: they draft one? They didn't draft one the whole time.

1075
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: In Austin Savarian Jagin, step on up, you are t

1076
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 1: e one. I've put a few things together. I wouldn't

1077
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: be surprised if Ben watson Is comes out of retirement

1078
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: and joins their team, because there's been some whispers that

1079
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: he might not retire after all. And Michael Lombardi made

1080
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: this that. Yeah, I'm not saying I kind of save

1081
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: their team. But let's come back to us Ben Watson

1082
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: first round pick. You also had the Giants will draft

1083
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: the QB in round one. Nobody took you up on it,

1084
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: but according to Nick Fortier, you get the credit for

1085
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: getting it right. I bet Ben Watson can still chase

1086
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: down Champ Bailey. All right, Chris Wesley seven and five

1087
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: Jets will make a trade involving the number three overall pick.

1088
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: No they did not. They stayed they were They took

1089
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: quinnin William just cost you three sandwiches. The Bengals or

1090
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: Lions draft a QB within the first two rounds did

1091
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: not happen. Banged two more. So, what happened to all

1092
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: this Lions quarterback talk? Well there was Uh it was

1093
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: interesting that one of the teams traded up ahead of

1094
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: the Lions to take a quarterback in the second round.

1095
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: Who am I thinking? Was that the broncos Man. There

1096
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: was some belief that that they were worried that that

1097
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: Locke could go there. So so when I heard that,

1098
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: I thought, of you, Chris, that was a bad job

1099
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: by me, that that particular one. And then you, of

1100
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: course you nailed Josh Rosen going to the Dolphins. Um,

1101
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: Mark and I neither of us got anything right. But

1102
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: Mark did a better job taking up sandwiches. He goes

1103
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: four and four. Uh, the Giants won't draft a QB

1104
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: at number six. They did, they took Daniel Jones of Duke,

1105
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: So that was a missed opportunity by all that quarterback none.

1106
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: None of us took you up on it. So even

1107
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: though you didn't lose any sandwiches, you're we're still shaming um.

1108
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: It just goes to show how far the Browns and

1109
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: their fans have come that you are now lobbying quarterback

1110
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: UM put downs at other teams, and you deserve it

1111
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: after all those years. I just asked. I didn't say

1112
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: he's not. I asked the question into the Browns trade

1113
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: into the first front around. I should have taken you

1114
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: up on this, but I thought the logic was sound.

1115
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: Because the cowboy GM of the Browns wanted to make

1116
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: another splash. He didn't Um. He stayed where he was

1117
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: um Or he didn't move into the first round. Greg

1118
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: and West did take you up on that. You have

1119
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: the Cardinals as the Josh Rosen team on Sunday and

1120
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: then the old Zoser a tough one, three and eight.

1121
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: I never do well in this exercise in the draft,

1122
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: it's always been a bad spot for me. Giants, Redskins, Dolphins,

1123
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: or Broncos will trade into the top five. Didn't happen?

1124
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: Nobody moved out of a year of trades. Well, there

1125
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: were actually more trades than in the in the first round.

1126
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: In the first round, not a big fireworks around one

1127
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: in terms of trading. Um, but that cost me three sandwiches.

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00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 1: More quarterbacks will be selected in round one than running

1129
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: back and wide receiver combined. I'll tell you what. You

1130
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: know who got you Nikio, Harry and the Patriots thank

1131
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: you for delivering that sandwich. And you know who did indirectly.

1132
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: Supposedly the Falcons traded up to thirty one to drab

1133
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: draft that right top tackle Caleb Supposedly the Patriots were

1134
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: interested in taking him, so indirectly they that hadn't happened,

1135
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: I think you would have gotten your sandwiches. Yeah, well,

1136
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: don't be so gleeful about it. But I was on fire.

1137
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 1: I was up three oh old footnote over here, Um,

1138
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: I was up three oh, and I think I was

1139
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: up three oh after the twentie pick, and then yes,

1140
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: it went all the way to thirty two and the

1141
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: Patriots and they take the wide receiver that locks me

1142
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: in at three to three. Three quarterbacks taken, three running

1143
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: backs slash wide receivers taken. And I had made it

1144
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: very clear that if it was a push, I lose.

1145
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: And I've never done this before. And all the years

1146
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: we've done the show, and all the anger that I've

1147
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: had towards the Patriots, and all the times this organization

1148
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: has screwed me um both personally and my favorite team,

1149
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: one thing I've never done, but I'm gonna do it

1150
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: right now, New England Patriots. I declare vengeance. Now I

1151
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: do it, your boy, Tom Brady, I would I would

1152
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: like someone to go through the one thousand, two hundred

1153
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: and sixty episodes. There your bones go brittle. I feel

1154
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: like you have declared vengeance. Muscles go limp literally like

1155
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: four times, and your mind grow feeble, and that goes

1156
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: for your head coach too. I declare vengeance. This is

1157
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: the end. Never would have thought this would be the

1158
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: straw that breaks the camel's back. Harry. I think I'd

1159
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: like one of our sneers to find some all the

1160
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: fun pretty I don't think I did, but I don't

1161
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 1: think I ever actually declared vengeance on that organization until now.

1162
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: And watch what happens, mark my words, bring this tape

1163
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: back up. Come Janet's fine. Thank you declared vengeance on me,

1164
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: But I don't remember the Patriots and bad things happened

1165
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: to you if I were around with this, check your

1166
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: front office for voodoo dolls, all right? Anybody else? Have

1167
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: anybody else to add about this uh wonderful three day

1168
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: period of the NFL. I'm going through my notes. I

1169
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: feel like we cover a lot. Get out of here.

1170
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: Good job by the Vikings, glad we got that in

1171
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: Oh the Bucks draft and another kicker this time in

1172
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: the fifth round, Mattie gay Um. It will compete with Cairo,

1173
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: Santa Ros, Santos and the guy that's on the track

1174
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: up from Germany. They're there top five PI. What's his name,

1175
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: Philip Anderson from the German Football League. I thought it

1176
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: was injuryed with Bruce arians there. Their first five picks

1177
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: were all defense. That defense is so bad for so

1178
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: long and they've spent a lot on it, and Todd

1179
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: Bowls winner never gets any better. Patriots straighted up for

1180
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: a punter. What a joke. Nice job about so by

1181
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: the Ravens. The Ravens got explosive players in Marquis Brown,

1182
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: Miles Boykin, uh and then Justice Hill from Oklahoma State.

1183
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: All these guys are like, you know, nine percentile athletic testing,

1184
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: just like can take it one play to make a

1185
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: touchdown at any point. You put them with Lamar Jackson,

1186
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't know at all, the Ravens will be inswered.

1187
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: They also drafted Trace McSorley, the Penn State quarterback who

1188
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh came on an NFL network and acknowledged that

1189
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: he may They may find a way to put him

1190
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: on the field with Lamar Jackson in sort of a

1191
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: Tasom Hill type spicy sauce. Oh and I did mention

1192
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: this earlier before we go, I do. Let's listen to

1193
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: Steve Smith going off on Josh Rosen because it was

1194
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: some fire and brimstunt stuff. Every team misdrafted. We got

1195
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,439
Speaker 1: six rounds to six rounds in the next couple of days.

1196
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: Guys are getting replaced. You are replaceable no more, they

1197
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: say in the league. The more you can do it

1198
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: helps your opportunity. So now you're mad because they brought

1199
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: some competition in him. So you're gonna try to take

1200
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: your vault for first of all, Sunday 't your damn

1201
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: ball to take anyway. So you just keep playing with

1202
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: your phone and you keep showing us what what the

1203
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: this stigma of you and who you were was this

1204
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: uh at u c l A. Now you brought it

1205
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 1: to the professoral level to show us. You're still gonna

1206
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: when things don't go your way, you're gonna cry in

1207
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: the corner. But guess what, They're gonna ship your ass

1208
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: on somewhere else and you're gonna cry and be their problems. Listen,

1209
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: this is a man's game. Be a man and go

1210
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: against that man one on one. He gets tim place,

1211
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: you get t in place. Do your deal. Ain't nobody

1212
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: giving you nothing? The only thing you can get on

1213
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: this stage right now, there's a free ass, loot and

1214
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: everything else you gotta work hard for. You know what

1215
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 1: the crime of Josh Rosen, you know what this why

1216
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: he's getting buried here because he unfollowed their Instagram account. Yes, now,

1217
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: well I'm not gonna tell Steve Smith the calm down,

1218
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: because Steve Smith will come find me. But I don't

1219
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: know if Josh Rosen deserves that beating. Quite the contrary,

1220
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: I think he's handled himself and acquitted himself quite well

1221
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: during a very difficult situation. I mean to be fair

1222
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: that it came before Rosen did the video today and

1223
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: the one. Rosen also never verbally complained about pen put

1224
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: in the worst situation last year, a rookie quarterback could

1225
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: possibly but he changed the name of their handle to

1226
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: Cards Got Kyler. It was like posts straight and it

1227
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: was from the Cards Got Kyler account. I mean, it's

1228
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: also like a generational thing too. I don't I don't

1229
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: think I'm following is some Yeah, well, Steve Smith has

1230
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: proven to be a good TV analyst, and I'm sure

1231
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: this made for good TV. And when you're a five

1232
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: ft nine wide receiver drafted in the third round, you

1233
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: have to adopt that mindset that every as a competition,

1234
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to steal your job. You have to be

1235
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: absolutely rock tough, and that's how you get to be

1236
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: a third round receiver in the Hall of Fame. But

1237
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: that's not the same as being drafted as a first

1238
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: round quarterback and the next year they take your replacement

1239
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: number one. Overall, that's not competition. That's your out the

1240
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: door right anyways, And it's not the same. The same

1241
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: Instagram account also sent out, you know, a post just

1242
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: a couple of months before that said Josh is our guy.

1243
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't look as good. I mean, Josh is essentially

1244
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: just annoyed with the Cardinals social media department. You can,

1245
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: we can understand that. So we hit on his a

1246
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: whole bunch of teams obviously over the last two shows.

1247
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: But if you are a listener of the show and

1248
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: you're hoping for more conversation about your favorite team, we'll

1249
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: look got good news for you this upcoming week. We'll

1250
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: be back Tuesday. Two shows next week, but um, two

1251
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: of our favorite shows of the season around the a

1252
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: f C. In forty eight minutes on Tuesday around the

1253
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: NFC and forty eight minutes on Thursday, every team three

1254
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: minutes of devoted talk. Um, So pinch yourselves. That's it.

1255
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: Good job, good job everybody out of everybody. Good draft,

1256
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: good draft, Ricky. I know they had you burn in

1257
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: the midnight aisle until four in the morning the other

1258
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: back here and then back here the next morning. On Friday,

1259
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: that feels like it breaks some sort of a code.

1260
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: But you know someone somewhere can look deeper into that.

1261
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: It feels wrong to me. All right, let's get out

1262
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: of here. This is Dan hands As signing off Go Spurs, Jape,

1263
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: sat It four, The Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Old Boss,

1264
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: and Ricky Hollywood behind the glass don't do? Is that