WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Stephanie Ruhle 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.280 Course Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.080 episode was produced by the team at Pandora. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:13.000 What up, y'all, It's like eah and this QLs classic 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:17.319 episode is all about our MS seventy C girl, Stephanie Rule. Yup, 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.640 no stone gets unturned. In this classic episode, Stephanie Rule, 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.200 MSNBC news anchor talks about her transition from Wall Street 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.480 to news anchor and shares her views on complicated issues. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.000 Oh yeah, we had some real hard talks from the 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:35.000 twenty eleven financial crisis to free speech and the Me 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.000 Too movement. And remember that time we all talked about 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.080 the n world with Stephanie Rule. Oh yeah, you want 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:44.960 to listen to this episode. This episode originally aired April third, 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:46.680 twenty nineteen. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:59.640 Enjoy Suprema Suh Suh Supremo role called Suprema Suh Suh Suprema. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:07.399 Oh call Supremo Supremo role Call Supremo Sun Sun Supremo 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:08.280 roll call. 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:24.200 Yeah yeah, sure, Supremo Sun Supremo Rod. 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:25.480 My name is Fante. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:31.440 Yeah ha ha yeah. With Stephanie Rule. No relation to jobs. 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:34.559 Suprima su su. 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:40.680 Supremo role called Suprema Sun Sun Supremo roll call, Let's. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:46.039 Go to school. Yeah with Stephanie Rule, Yeah, just talk slowly. Yeah, 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:47.080 this ain't a jewel. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:56.840 Supremo Supremo suck Supprimo roll before. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:00.600 We get to Yeah, and that's cool. Yeah to working 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.200 TV news Boss Bill went to school. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:11.960 Supreme Supremo roll call, Supremo Supremo roll call. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:16.720 It's like yeah with Stephanie Rule. Yeah, she's smart as 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:18.720 hell and she'll shade you. 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:27.760 To roll Supprima Subpremo, roll sure, Supremo roll. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.800 My name sub rule. Yeah, I came to hang. Yeah, 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:33.000 I'm kinna do. 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:43.760 This Supremo roll call, Supremo so So Supremo Role. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:51.480 Supremo, suthing Sun Supremo roll call Supremo Supremo roll. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:56.200 I can't thank myself right now. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.720 Yeah, you had a nice sisip. Steve got that. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.320 Steve got it. He the winner. Steve might be. 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:10.240 Me or Fonte. Yeah, all right, I lost. Nobody cares about. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.119 I care about your life experience. 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.040 Bill. Has anybody ever run major in? 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.440 But I've got for a long time people. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.560 Conversation like not many things. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.919 Rhyme with the mirror, thank got the chair, a mere 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:34.000 camere cashmere, first pitch at a at a baseball game. 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:42.600 No, it wasn't a up pitch Steve anyway. Ladies and gentlemen, Uh, 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.120 welcome to another installment of course, Love Supreme, your host 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.400 quest Love Jenkins, and we got Team Supreme in the house. 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:54.520 H everything, fante, how's home life? 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.280 My home life is cool. I've been getting back into 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:58.560 my dancing. You know what I'm saying. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.080 Yeah, back on my dancing like baby powder all on 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.400 the floor. Nah no, nah, I don't. I don't quite 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:05.240 use the baby powder. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.960 I just do. I do my Chicago stepping like so 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.000 oh yeah, I dance. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.880 Oh my god, it's like a ride dancing with Fonte 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:12.880 get to baby Powder on the floor. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.400 It might the baby Potter is en route. But is 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:20.320 there a society in North Carolina? Yea throwing in sexy dancing. 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:20.600 Yeah. 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.360 Step is like we do, uh we do like for 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.159 the older for the black set, we do Chicago step. 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.159 But then for like the older white set, it's East 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.159 Coast swing like Lindy hop, like all of that West 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:33.599 Coast swing. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.000 Where is the street from my crib? 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:43.040 All the baby baby So at house parties like with 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.720 like music, the parties to play house music sometimes like 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.160 at the end of the night when the drugs have 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.840 really kicked in, people will put baby powder on the floor. 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:53.120 It helps you dance, it helps you just moved. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.120 Yeah, Yeah, that's funny because I was going to just 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.960 say that's how Jane her dancing in the first couple 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.240 of years, that's how she performed really cost to floor. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.920 Yeah, I didn't know that, So that doesn't ruin the 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.000 wing tips at the bottom of the shoe or I don't. 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:11.719 I've never done. I've only seen it in action once 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.160 once in my life. Really, where was it? What was 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.280 it that I went to like one of the body 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:17.480 and soul parties here in New York. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.719 Yeah, it was on that like Nails Grown and Sexy. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.240 No, it's like a house music party. Like Okay, I think, 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.320 who does that party? I should be ashamed of myself. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.120 I should know that Steph us a dancer. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:36.320 Wait time out, Let's introduce our guests, ladies and gentlemen. 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:41.560 Today. Our guest is I guess my part time work wife. Hey, 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:42.040 are we there? 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:42.880 Your real friend? 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:44.760 Okay, well, I'm going to get to that. I'm going 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:45.680 to get to that friend. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:46.640 You don't know that yet. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.480 I have a few part time wives at thirty rocks. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.920 But yeah, and my real friend. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.800 Uh, but basically I'll say that you got to put 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:01.960 your trust and someone to inform you of what's going on. 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.719 And I'm the kind of guy that still wakes up 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.720 at eight eight eight a m. Nine am to make 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:14.160 sure that the world still running. Yeah, it has it imploded. Yeah, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.559 and uh, our next guest today, I kind of trust 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:22.039 her to give me, give me the straight how ad 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.960 t I t I Z wait? It was always t 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.960 I z y. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:32.080 The black Heart just got a little real restrictions. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.320 You got it, but yeah, you saved it from going 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:34.880 off in the wind. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.880 Thank you. Uh, ladies and gentlemen. One of my square glasses. Well, 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.120 ladies and gentlemen. Uh, one of my favorites at my 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.600 building at at thirty Rockervilla Plaza, M S n b 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.200 c's own Stephanie Rule. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:56.479 So we were talking about baby powder. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.640 Yeah yeah, yeah, you put it on the floor to 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:01.279 hip slide. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.560 But but now me and my wife, that's whatever we 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.160 get back in that dancing we do a Chicago step. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:07.960 I do like it all, but she kind of just sticks. 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.200 Just from a d day standpoint, so this is kind 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:13.880 of a grown in secon it's like an over thirty, 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.080 like just mostly old thirty. So like for a DJ set. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.760 The stepper, like the funny thing is like when people 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.040 think of stepping and things stepping name of love, ar 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:23.600 killing whatever. 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.600 That temple is like really kind of too fast. So 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.160 like the slow the sexy ballroom is gonna fall anywhere 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:31.840 from like between the sheets. 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.320 You can't. That's you can yep footsteps in the dark, 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.000 not that footsteps might be too slow. What you can do? 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:39.560 It is it really good for your marriage? 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:40.480 It is? 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:41.240 It is. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.200 It keeps you, It keeps you going to have something 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:43.440 to do. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.120 Yeah, you gotta have something and I get born dinner, yes, 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.360 whatever in the movies, just the Netflix and chill. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:49.680 You know. 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.960 So when you're married, like the beautiful thing about being 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.640 together and dancing, you don't need to talk because talking 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.560 when you're married involves like twice no, but just like 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.680 so much men, like how do you go from I'm 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.800 dealing with bills, I'm dealing with life, I'm dealing with 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:11.720 who are you putting to bed to? But dancing takes 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:12.080 that out. 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.000 No, dancing is the It is the vertical expression of 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:22.480 a horizontal desire right down if bill right now what 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.880 you also realize they called sex the horizontal mambo, so 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.280 you know, hey, there it is so yeah, that's yeah, 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:28.280 but we that's what we do. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:35.880 Wow, words of wisdom from fun Okay, Oh damn, I'm sorry. 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.240 I mean you know, I have to represent for paid bills. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.960 What song I forgot? Don't have a song. I'm gonna 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:43.160 make it. 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:47.280 I'm gonna make up one. He kills it with more. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:52.439 Okay, yeah, I don't have scholar Yeah, I mean super 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:56.599 wisdom or something like that. Anyway, we should also know 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:01.040 that trustees Era is here and she's already shaking her 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:02.680 head knowing that she doesn't want to say anything. 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:03.800 I don't want to talk. 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:04.800 Okay, thank you. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.480 People should know that this is only Sarah's second appearance 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.280 here at q L last, which means that. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.600 Getting word on the. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:17.960 Yeah, no, she was. She was active in doing Roan. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:18.720 He was banging. 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:20.319 We had Roan Pharaoh on the show stuff. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.600 He's a serious man, well not. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:23.280 On our show. 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:29.880 Yeah, he was crooning. He was crooning like little little 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:31.520 blue eyes. He was crooning. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.400 That was a little bit he. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.400 Did it on. Roan did it on purpose. He knew 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:37.760 he was going to think you about that when he 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:38.120 did it? 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.480 Come on, well, wait, let me let me ask you, 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.640 because you know, I don't want to be all serious 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:45.760 and funny games because everyone knows you for your your 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:46.760 seriousness and taking. 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:47.920 I can tell how I know you? 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.040 Okay, how do we know each other? 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:50.360 Well? 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.559 See, I have my story of how we met, and 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:54.360 you have your story. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.640 You start first, he and I met. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:01.280 We were doing this wacky conference, uh and it was Quest. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.040 It was Steve a okay and I and we just 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:07.559 like really got on and it's a likely trio and 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:09.600 we really got on and blah blah blah. 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:11.000 And then he invited me to. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:12.920 One of his food salons, and I got to tell you, 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:14.760 I felt pretty good about myself. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.599 Wait, that's that's your take hold. I love you for 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:20.000 saying that. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:25.400 Just waiting. I walk into the food salon and like, 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.880 my husband's with me, and I'm like, yep, what's up? 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:29.760 You know here I am. I'm a Quest food salon. 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.600 And I run into the fashion designer of Leila Rose, 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.640 so I hadn't seen in years and blah blah blah. 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:36.920 And again I'm feeling pretty good that I'm there, and 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.440 I'm like, hey, Leilah great to see you. What are 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.280 you doing here? You know, like what brings you here? 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.720 And she's like, oh, I'm a good friend of Amir's 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.719 and she's like, how about you, And I'm like, I 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:47.520 don't know a mirror. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:48.920 I came with quest. 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:56.320 And she's like, yeah, that's his name. 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.640 And I'm like, oh my god, right and dying. 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.880 I'm like at this point, I'm just like power eating 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:05.560 everything there. I want to run away. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:07.679 And so I don't even know who to talk to. 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.679 And at the party, he had this Instagram installation that 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:15.439 every picture you take, you press something and the photograph 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.480 can get printed and then you get to take a 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:22.000 picture home. Okay, so I meet a guy named Kevin. Okay, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:26.080 so I'm so embarrassed by already what's happened. I don't 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.240 want to talk to any significant person there. So I'm like, 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.560 you know what, I'm gonna talk to Kevin, who's printing 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:31.200 the pictures. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.559 So I'm like, hey, Kevin, blah blah, Oh, Hey, what's 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:35.920 your name? 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:36.520 This is cool? 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.439 I love Instagram. He's like, oh, that's cool, and I'm like, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.800 how long have you been with the company And he's like, oh, 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.760 kind of since the beginning, and I'm like, oh wow, 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.719 like you must have nailed it, like you must have 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.719 cashed in like that, right, And I'm literally thinking he's 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.280 the guy who prints the pictures. 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:53.679 And I'm looking him like, god, I feel like I 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.640 know you. I'm like, did you ever go out with 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:59.280 any of my girlfriends? So I'm like, I'm like, where 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:00.520 do you live of right? 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.439 Like thinking maybe he dated one of my friends and 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.760 he's like California And I'm like I don't really know anybody, 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.439 like right, And all of a sudden, my husband is like, 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.120 I'm gonna need you to shut up. That's the founder 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.439 of Instagram. And then I'm like, what are you the 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.439 founder of Instagram bringing the pictures? 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.719 So at that point at home, dang. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:21.320 Boss, he. 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.559 Here's the thing about the fourteen job a mirror. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.360 Luckily he didn't break up with me after that, neither 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.600 four Yeah, you lost five jobs today. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.559 Damn. I've always had it down to fourteen, and I'm 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:36.439 trying to take it down to eight. I'm trying to 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.400 take it down to eight. I'm looking for some extra 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:44.960 ploy I'm just saying. I'm just saying that neither neither 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.839 the twain shall meet. And what you did was kind 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:55.640 of revealed to these guys, you know, the Bruce Wayne 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.320 when he ever ever bring up to the. 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.040 I knew any moment you left me for jay Z 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:05.920 and Beyonce's house. I know who he is now. 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.360 I still got a big into a game that I made. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:12.920 I got invited to foods Loan and was mad I 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:13.480 had to miss it. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.120 I don't know where you live. 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:20.040 Oh damn you before you do know that his name 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:20.839 is a mirror, I do. 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.520 You're already I know the middle one too. Yeah, but 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:25.040 that's about it. 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:29.599 Look, man, I just bring people together, just indifferent. I 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.560 do food versions of Quest Love Supreme. I do Quest 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:36.560 Love Supremes versus Quest Love Supreme. I do jam sessions. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.040 And you got popcorns out now? 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.040 Yeah? They need to bring that ship a shelf up. 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.040 Do you been to Williamson Noman and saw miror stuff? 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.440 Yes? But I didn't know you had popcorn saw. 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.360 See because that's because knowing. 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.439 People. I'm all things to all people, and literally what 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.640 people know me for that one thing that's all they 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:55.120 knew me for. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.520 I have a salt that I am a huge fan 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.760 of this, which one like jay Z Jane's crazy. 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:01.800 So have you ever had it, Noah, what kind? 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:03.559 I'm gonna send it to you. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.480 What is what is called James crazy? 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.959 James Jane's crazy and it's like a spy. It's like 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.120 assault with a bunch of other stuff in there. I'm 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:14.439 gonna mail it to you because they don't have it 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:15.080 in New York City. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.640 I think the thing is because if I tell one 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.640 person what every everything I do, then. 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.280 You spend time with the person they got. 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.800 Just see and you know that said that said Jay 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:35.600 and B's event. So he did the most mind blowing 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:41.120 thing ever and had Daniel Whom cater it, which having 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:46.080 Daniel Whome of eleven Madison catering your party is kind of. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:47.840 Like such rich people talk. I don't even know. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.640 I see food is not rich people ship. 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.120 It depends on how much it costs food. That's a 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:53.880 rich people think that. 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.680 My whole point is that if this guy is catering 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:08.480 your party, you can afford it. My whole point not 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.200 finishing the sentence is fast enough for me. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.560 Yeah, yeah, Okay, I'm giving too much space for the 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:18.280 I'm just saying that that's the equivalent of Oh, these 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.840 are the guys that paint my crib John Michelle and yeah, 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.840 and Andy right, it's like that. So I was just 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.640 rather impressed. But I think he was rather impressed that 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.800 I knew who Daniel Home was because I've had history 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.480 of conflicts with him. A lot of people ask like, well, 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.640 why don't the roots participate in the Philly uh made 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.680 in America? And well, part of it is that because 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.720 of the picnic and the Fourth of July stuff and 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.960 the other stuff we already do, it's like overkill by 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.040 the time we get to September. However, I've been begging 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:57.160 and gunning to curate the food. No, well, to curate 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.280 the food trucks and all that stuff. But because because 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.480 he doesn't know that I'm kind of a. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.480 Thing in the food world, he hasn't who doesn't know z? 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:07.840 J didn't know Jay Z. 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:09.360 He don't know as job that. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.000 He just thought that was crazy talk, And I'm like, well, dog, 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:16.280 I've written James Beard nominated books and New York Times bestseller, 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:17.360 Like did you say that? 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:18.440 Though I wanted, did you say that? 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:20.520 You didn't? You didn't. 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:21.520 We don't know that you didn't do. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:22.080 But that's the thing. 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.040 If someone don't know the job, then I can't I 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:25.680 get it. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:26.080 I get it. 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.240 Yeah, you can't sound crazy talk. He's like, come on, dogs, 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:29.720 I would. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:30.440 Have just sent your music. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.080 I just would have sent Carling the books and said, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.880 explain these to your boss when you're done. Well, Carling 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.120 knows what time it is, but she knows, like I 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:39.200 feel like in order. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:43.080 I think the number one rule of life is people 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.360 always try to go for the figurehead and that never worked. 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:48.960 Just get to the six people that have their ear 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:53.000 and then that's the thing, you know. So anyway to 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.240 bring it all back home out of this rabbit hole. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.080 You have a lot of jobs. And I'm a popcorn salt. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:02.760 Yeah, but the popcorn saw, I say, the popcorn saw 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:04.320 is really more seasoning than it is. 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:04.840 Yeah. 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.080 Really Yeah. 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.320 So she went and got some of the house. Oh yeah, 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:10.680 we bought. 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.800 So my wife she went to the winds So Noma 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:14.200 and she bought because we go to the movies a 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.760 lot and normally we'll like buy the popcorn salt like 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.160 from our ghost store or whatever and then just bring 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:24.600 it in. But we was like all right, yeah, I 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.679 was like no, I was like, yo, almost support black business. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.480 My man got a salt with this sauce. So we 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.439 went and got it in the it wasn't really salty. 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:34.040 A female ceo. 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:37.760 Yes, it's a seasoning. It's a season and I didn't 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.200 know that. I know now, so what I do. 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.680 So the trick what we do is we'll take your 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.840 because you got the avocado. We didn't do the avocado. 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.320 We got like the sweet kind. You got the Saturday 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.200 Morning the Saturday Morning cereal. And then the other one 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:51.359 is my lemon pepper. 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.440 Mine with you. We got the lemon pepper. But oh yeah, 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.159 come on, he knows the democratic. 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:58.480 And I love him. I just didn't want to say it. 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.280 Yeah, no, it's the cindermon. That was hard because they 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.280 wanted me to go to barbecue and I was like, 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:05.080 that's back in the day. 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:09.000 Yeah, we had a limating and the black limon peppers 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.159 is the new black flavor, right, So what you do 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.800 is you take if you take the lemon pepper and 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.720 your other one that's really good, it's the parmesan parmesan 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.320 take that and you kind of mix them and then 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:20.520 you hit it with like some salt. 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:20.800 Salt. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:22.480 So if you hit them with your salt, Stephan in 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.800 the Crazy Crazy James Crazy, you with that, and then 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.240 you add some butter. Actually put the butter on first, 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:30.920 and then you put the salt in the seat, and 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.280 so it sticked to the popcorn. And it's like a 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:40.159 flat at this point in the movies, what do we 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.720 go see? She it was when she took uh I 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.840 was actually working in l A. She took my son 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:49.840 to see Aquaman, so they took it into So, yeah, 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:50.760 you might have. 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.040 To break my health protle cals and try that and 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.320 see if the ship works. Hey, bro, hey, listen, it's real. 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.280 Man. Rewind it back for the full recipe, though, Yeah, 0:18:58.320 --> 0:18:58.600 you just. 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.240 Take you just take his seat something and the salt 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:01.640 with butter. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.159 The butter first hit a little season in salt, so 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.320 it sticked to the popcorn, and you good money. 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.680 I had an option to include salt or not include salt, 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.960 but I figured that no, it would have been too. 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:19.760 Much because it's like, you know, so Steph, Now you 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:24.320 know that I sell popcorn, salt, many flavors. 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:25.760 Many Well, well there's only three. 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:27.760 But how do you like working with williams Sonoma? 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:29.600 It's cool. 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:30.320 I enjoy it. 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:32.240 I love it so much. 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:45.560 Anyway, who's cooler William? Or so? Wait, you said something 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:52.040 earlier about domestic life and if it just hit me 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.639 that yes, you're also a wife and a mother, but 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:00.760 I also know you as sort of already in of 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:05.159 the galaxy as far as getting news straight and the 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.920 way that you know for people that aren't familiar with 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:17.840 your I guess your interrogation style. First of all, she's 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:22.200 a business yeah. But the thing is you don't you 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:28.000 don't let the small stuff slide, of which I've seen 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.600 some people give up, usually when when pundits come on 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.400 the show and they'll say something not factual. 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.199 First of all, like I feel like. 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.920 You have to do, is you have to do so 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:45.840 much fact checking, so much research in the type of 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:50.000 news that you delivered today, because someone can instantly deliver 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:51.919 an untruth, and. 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.480 You know, some news journalists will just take that as law. 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.960 As in So, I don't have any sort of journalism backgrounds. 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.400 So I was in investment banking for fourteen years. 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:04.879 We say you brought the MSNBC to talk money and 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:08.200 you just happen to get hired during the most corrupt politically. 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:13.440 I was in investment banking for fourteen years, and I 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.879 always wanted to work in media my whole life. And 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.119 one day I was giving a speech for a nonprofit 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:20.760 called the White House Project because I used to do 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:24.240 a lot of women's things. And after the founder had 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.520 the board all having lunch, and she said, you know, 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:31.080 women and black men always get compared to one another. 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.520 And she said, if you take the fifty most powerful 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.359 women and the fifty most powerful black men, they always 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:39.960 lump us together. They say women and minorities, women and minorities. 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:42.439 And she said, but go to the top of their field. 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.480 And if you take the fifty most successful Black men 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.200 in America, they actually think about one another. 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:50.960 They think, how do I get someone. 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:54.520 Else in my group a board seat, a book deal, 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:56.720 an opportunity with the company. You know, if you look 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.840 at someone like Jesse Jackson, Jesse and I'm making this up, 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.760 but you know, before the Super Bowl Jessel Jackson will say, 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:07.560 I'm going to call Pepsicola and find out who are 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.080 they what advertising agency or are they going to be 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:14.040 working with for their Super Bowl ad because there's African 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:16.480 American men on that field, or if they're going to 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:18.520 do or if GM is going to do a banking deal, 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:20.440 they'll say, who are you going to give your underwriting 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:23.280 fees to? And they're thinking about it, and she said, 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:25.760 women don't think about each other in that way. Yet 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:27.760 one woman makes her way to the top and she's 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:29.520 on a board and she said, great, I'm here, We're here, 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:32.479 And she said, you each need to think collectively, how 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:33.600 am I going to help one another? 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:34.960 And it was my turn. 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:36.760 Everyone had to say what they wanted to do in 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.119 their next chapter, and someone else had to raise their 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:40.360 hand and say, I'm going to get you there. 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:43.720 And it was my turn, and I said, do you know, 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:44.080 I think. 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:46.560 I've always wanted to work in the media, especially after 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:50.200 the financial crisis when people were just so anti power 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:53.280 and money didn't necessarily understand it. And I said, you know, 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:55.440 I think I've always wanted to work in the media. 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.320 And there was a woman there who worked directly for 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:00.720 Mike Bloomberg, and she said, I'm going to introduce you 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.480 to Mike. And I met Bloomberg, and I met the 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:05.520 guy who ran Bloomberg Media, and he said, and this 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.399 really speaks to what you all are doing right here. 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:09.960 And he said, in the new world of media and news, 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:13.320 we're not going to have any more people reading teleprompters. 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:17.119 People trust relationships, they don't trust information. Because you can 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:21.159 get information from anywhere, And he said you have to 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:24.400 know the content, love the content, and have a desire 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.480 to be on TV. And I said, well, I think 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:29.520 I have all three. But in order for me to 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:33.000 walk away from my career, you can pay me zero dollars, 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:35.399 but you need to give me a show to anchor, 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:37.639 and you need to hire somebody to teach me how 0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:38.000 to do it. 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:39.440 And he said deal. 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.439 So you're telling me that you, unlike Boss Bill here, 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.639 you had zero radio, television film experiences. 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:48.320 I had done TV a couple of times as a 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:49.840 guest Jersey. 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:58.640 South South County, North Jersey, South Jerseys like Philly, Yes, yes, yes, yeah, 0:23:58.720 --> 0:23:59.280 South Jersey. 0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:01.040 Is you're serious? 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:02.680 Yeah, I'd never done it before. 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:07.320 Okay, So my version of meeting you. You mentioned with 0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:11.240 the speech that you, me and Steve Aoki did. 0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:16.359 First of all of all the things I do, I 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:20.919 hate public speaking the most, which is what I think. 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.360 I tweet and write better more because I can edit 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.560 better and it seems fluid, but I don't know. My 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.760 mind also has edit in real time, so there's always 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.720 gaps in spaces. And I'm in a room with a 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:36.000 bunch of fortune five hundred people. You know, of course, 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:40.040 like my management they want me to do more speaking 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:43.960 and more you know, conferences or whatever. And it's like 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:48.760 I have ulcerus about like the anxiety all those things, 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:52.119 so I nervously spoke about I forgot what I did. 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.680 It's like a it was like a poor man's Ted talk, 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.000 or maybe it's the rich man's Ted talk. What was 0:24:58.040 --> 0:24:59.000 do you remember what the conference? 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:02.639 Yes, so that it was all it was basically people 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:07.280 who run marketing for Fortune five hundred companies and consumer companies, 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.840 and then the speakers were sort of influencers. So those 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.240 heads of marketing would understand what you have to say 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:15.520 in the way you think, so your management team would 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.600 want you there because you're a highly marketable guy. 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.720 So okay, So basically I get on the mic and 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:29.920 totally mirrored up like hello, like just say a sentence there, 0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:35.639 this is me, How are you exactly? That was wow? 0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:39.879 Wow, sound like mprs. 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:47.440 Yeah. So there's there's a room for creativity and about 0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:51.119 to cry advertising world. And I feel it like me 0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:52.440 giving the speech in seventh grade. 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.320 Yeah, And I feel like Steve also was sort of like. 0:25:56.080 --> 0:26:00.800 Well you know, I uh, we're gonna like and so 0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:02.560 today we're going to do this literally. 0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.720 So here's the thing. I'd never heard of Stepan you. 0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:09.440 But she walked on that stage and like it was instant. 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:13.040 We all came in attention like oooh yeah, cot and 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:15.359 We're like, who is this woman? Like at first I 0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.040 thought she was a comedian, so I'm like trying to 0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:18.600 google her at the same time. Oh wow. 0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:22.200 Well, the thing was, she's at the presence of like, yeah, 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:23.879 I was at the mic stand, id and take the 0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:25.480 mic off the mine stand. She like took the mic 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.879 off the mine stances, okay, show off hands no no, no, no, 0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.560 Like she totally took over the room, and I was like, 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.520 who is this woman? I have to know who this 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:33.040 woman is? 0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:35.560 So then why did you go to the business route 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.000 first instead of doing the media right, I'm curious if 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:39.760 you had the personality for it in the past. 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:41.640 My point was that you were born star. 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:43.720 Yeah, that's my point. That was my question based on 0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.480 I knew that's where you were going because I ended up. 0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.200 In banking right out of undergrad because I went to 0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.600 college in the US only for two years, and I 0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:55.240 studied abroad for two years read right, Kenya, Guatemala in Italy, 0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:58.920 and I stayed in Europe because I had no money left. 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.040 But I wanted to day in Europe, and in order 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:02.920 to do so, you need to get a job. So 0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.240 I'm like, I'll get a job with the bank. They 0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:07.760 have banks all over the world, and I got a 0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.800 job with Merrill Lynch. They ended up sending me back 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:14.640 to New York. And a newsroom and a trading floor 0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:21.359 are very, very similar. They are high energy, loads of testosterone, passionate. 0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.320 It's all about teamwork. Everyone kind of leaves it on 0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.120 the field. And I didn't even know what anybody did there, 0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.000 but I'm like, whatever they do here for a. 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.680 Living, I'm going to do this. And the other thing 0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:32.480 is you can make a lot of money. 0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.200 And no one wants to say that that's an ugly truth, 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.639 but especially for women, if you can do something to 0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:42.240 make yourself financially independent, it's a game changer. When you 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.920 think about all the things that happen to women in 0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.840 the workplace and put back us into a corner. It's 0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:51.320 about not having financial freedom, and when you need a 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.719 job so badly that you don't know if you can 0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.960 make rent at the end of the month, you'll take shit, 0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:01.240 and so to work that you can and I remember 0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.240 I almost left banking two years in because I really 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.880 wanted to go to journalism school, and somebody who ended 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.199 up being a mentor of mine, said, don't You'll end 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.320 up a weather girl in Tuscaloosa. And by the way, 0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:12.800 you'll be horrible in local news, which I would be. 0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.560 I would be terrible at it. But financial freedom does 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.159 give you the ability to just make better choice. I mean, 0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.520 when you have a lot of when you have a 0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.240 lot of financial freedom, I think people make terrible choices. 0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.280 That's when they're throwing money out the window. But when 0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:32.159 you know that you've got your situation covered, you can 0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.720 just take a step back and start to really pursue 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:35.440 things that you want to do. 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:37.479 It's crazy when you think about how many peop I'm 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.200 thinking about my me. Of course I'm thinking about myself, 0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:41.480 but then I think about how many people just don't 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:45.600 know what that feels like. Financial freedom like not check 0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:49.920 because it's not like chasing like not having to have 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.760 a job, like being able to chase your career goals 0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:53.600 like that is. 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.560 But that's because we don't teach anyone to save money. 0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:58.840 When you think about what we go to school for, 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.040 and I'm not talking about college, I'm talking about high school. 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.400 Are you using algebra? Are you using calculus? 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:04.520 No? 0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.360 But it really would have been great if they taught 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.320 you how to get a mortgage, if they taught you 0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.720 how a savings account worked, if you didn't have a 0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.840 parent at home that ever said let me show you. 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.080 And I don't mean how to be an investor, but 0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.760 how the stock market works. No one teaches you those things. 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:22.640 And especially I mean not for nothing, but yet that's 0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:23.600 black homes. 0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:29.280 But but that's if you think about financial mobility. You're 0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.920 never going to get that if someone doesn't teach it 0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:32.120 to you. 0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.000 That's why they try to not teach it to us, 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.120 because they don't want especially for black people, we've been 0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:38.640 had hundreds of years when they don't want you to 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:38.840 have that. 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:42.000 So it's not part of the core curriculum in public schools. 0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:45.280 I think that's a huge problem. I've been trying very 0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:46.280 hard to talk to anyone. 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:48.600 I can just do one class called life. 0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:54.680 You forget when you had home economics in school. Home 0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:56.920 ac which public schools don't have anymore. 0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:59.040 Because budgets are gone, but homeck is not. 0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.600 Was not just cooking and sewing. It was also personal 0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.040 budgeting right, And so we live in a world where 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.080 people are going, I got to run to a sample 0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.720 sale because oh my goodness, everything's on sale. It's not 0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.040 on sale if you're buying it on your credit card 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:15.960 and you can't pay your bill at the end of 0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:19.800 the month. And if we don't start helping people learn 0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.960 the basics of just saving money. And I realize life 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.240 is expensive, but if you can save money and you 0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.160 know you have a little bit of cushion, you just 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:29.520 don't have to take so much shit. 0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:39.440 Amen. So okay, So in the banking game, what is 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.960 the thin line between like what what should the real 0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.600 ceialing goal be? Because I know that when I think 0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:54.320 of banking, automatically think of Wall Street, Koch Brothers, Uh, 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:59.880 not AIG but us Yeah, yeah, just ron Ponzi scheme 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:05.160 like made off. Yeah, I think of corrupt people. Is 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:11.120 there a good example of lucrative banking done right where 0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.560 you can serve a community and be okay? 0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:19.360 If you think, I actually think every job on some 0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.960 level is the same. Every job is about relationship building 0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.200 and trust. I don't think that my job when I 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.440 was in banking, truthfully, is much different than my job now. 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.640 If you can sit down and help, whether it's your 0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:37.280 client or your viewer, get smarter and better and understand 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:38.880 what they need and what they want to do. 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:39.960 That's your goal. 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.360 When I worked in banking, there was no one there 0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.880 was There wasn't a hedge fund that said, well, it 0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.680 is our mission statement to use Stephanie rule to give 0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:50.560 us the best investment ideas. But they just had to 0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.880 figure out Stephanie rules someone I could trust. Are there 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.320 examples of good banking? Yes, like when we dump on 0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.480 Corporate America all the time. Corporate America is what keeps 0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:05.040 many cities thriving. Right. Well, when you go you were 0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:08.800 just talking about Atlanta, what's in Atlanta? Bank America. That's 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:13.120 the biggest company there, and I'm sure they're the biggest 0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.240 corporate donor in Atlanta. I'm sure they're one of the 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:20.480 biggest employers. So they're providing healthcare, they're helping schools there. 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:24.680 And yes, there are bad, evil, egregious practices, but in 0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.560 every business right in in news, in media and entertainment. 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.760 Once people reach that star status and rules get bent 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.480 for them, then the world starts to go out a whack. 0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:36.680 And that's every industry. 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.239 But it seems like in the bank industry, everybody's had 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.360 their fair share of controversy, except when I think I'm like, 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.040 maybe I feel like TD right now is like the 0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:49.320 standalone but Bank of America TD Bank Toronto. 0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.800 Toronto Dominion because it's a really vanilla bank that doesn't 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.880 do too many sort of funky edgy things. 0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:57.240 They say, thank you. 0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.080 But one of the reasons to be so mad. 0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.320 At the industry, and it's not their fault, there's not 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.720 enough rules. Right, So after financial crisis when people didn't 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.719 go to jail, and everyone's like, what the hell, how 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:09.920 come no one went to jail? Well, the problem is 0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:13.960 they didn't go to jail because technically they didn't break 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:18.360 the law. Now does that mean we need more regulation? 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.560 It does. But you can take that to the pharmaceutical business, 0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.640 right You could say, like, pharmaceutical is the most hated 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:30.320 industry out there, but those companies are making billions and billions. 0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:31.520 Of dollars because what do they do? 0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.800 They have the big The pharmaceutical industry has the biggest 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:38.520 lobbying effort out there, and so there are very few 0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.840 politicians on either side of the angle aisle that are 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:46.640 looking to regulate big pharma and so lots of regulation 0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.080 is bad, but we need some rules to protect people. 0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:55.560 The stakes are higher though, in banking than they are 0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:59.600 in every in other industries. You know, when somebody's corrupt 0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:03.000 and banks, it could cause it ever recession. 0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.719 Yes, yes, if somebody steals away, especially I mean in banking. 0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:09.600 It was sort of the perfect storm of a lot 0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:14.719 of bad things. And listen, the unfortunate thing about the 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.600 financial crisis is the people who were hurt the most, 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:22.200 who lost their homes, still haven't recovered, but the industry 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:23.440 has and that sucks. 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:25.680 Where do you think we are now? Do you think 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:27.840 we're on the verge of a recession? 0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:28.120 Like? 0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:29.359 What do you think we are fering? 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.440 And like it's got to come again because we've now 0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.239 had ten good years now. One of the issues though, 0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:36.279 and it really led to sort of the birth of 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.320 the Trump voter. It was President Obama's last State of 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.960 the Union address, and I remember it like it was yesterday, 0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:46.920 and he said, anyone who says that the economy has 0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:51.480 not recovered is peddling lies. And here's where he was wrong, 0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:56.080 because the economy had recovered for people who lived on 0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:59.399 the coasts, for people who worked in technology for people 0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.080 who worked in an entertainment but for people in Middle 0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.720 America it didn't. And sort of out of that speech 0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:11.000 and that sentiment was quasi the birth of the Trump 0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:15.680 voter who said, hold on a second still, I didn't 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.360 get my house back. I haven't paid you know, I 0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:21.960 haven't paid gotten any more money at my job. 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:23.200 And just think about this. 0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.919 I could say to you, it's two hundred thousand dollars 0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:27.400 a lot of money for a family to make, and 0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:29.680 you'd be like, yeah, that's a respectable amount of money. 0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:33.040 And that's a family who maybe that could be a 0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:36.520 family with two parents where somebody is a teacher or 0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.799 an accountant or an engineer. But a family who makes 0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:44.080 two hundred thousand dollars in the United States cannot afford 0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:48.040 to support themselves and send a kid to college, to 0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:51.560 a private college, and definitely can't send two kids. But 0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:53.719 here's this is the silver lining that I want to 0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:59.480 come to. The silver lining is this that family is 0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.960 angry and they feel left out and they feel forgotten. 0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:07.040 It's not that that family is filled with hatred. It's 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.000 not that they hate immigrants, it's not that they hate 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:13.560 other cultures. Is that that family is saying the system 0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:17.279 doesn't work for me, and so they're frustrated. So what 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.560 gives me hope is when we say this country is 0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.520 so angry and so hatefuled and so divided, they're not. 0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.239 There are just people who feel forgotten and angry. And 0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.080 one of the first things you do when you're angry 0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:33.279 and forgotten is you blame someone else and you point 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:35.360 the finger, and it's a natural emotion. 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:39.680 Call the girls are selling water or you do listen. 0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:43.000 Those are very bad examples, and those are real examples 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:46.960 of young kids who are entrepreneurial, who are doing great things. 0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.000 But that person who did that, that's one bad egg. 0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.080 And I'm not saying that that bag that egg isn't rotten. 0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:55.480 But can I tell you a story about a woman 0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:58.319 that I met if I'm. 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:00.400 And she was. 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:02.839 It was a terrible story, but she actually gives me hope. 0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:05.239 So I was an upstate New York at a dude 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.640 ranch with my family and a woman comes up and 0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:11.320 the owner says, a waitress would like to talk to 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.840 you and tell you why she loves President Trump. So 0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:16.920 she knew who she knew who I was, and I 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.279 was like, we're going to send my kids off the 0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.920 table and she can come on over. So she sits down. 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:22.560 You allow it. 0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:25.600 I allow it. That was a nice way for them 0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:27.640 to do it, though, So let me tell. 0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:31.120 You I allowed it because I want to get smarter 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.640 and better, and because I do have an open mind 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:34.319 and an open heart. 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:37.239 Okay, No, I just meant, like I figure family time 0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.240 is if I'm at the table. 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.480 No, I can't take a selfie with you right now, 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.839 like when you're at a dude ranch for four days. 0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:46.960 You're through three children. You're going to take a break. 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:54.640 So she sits down, and she said to me, I 0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.239 want to tell you why I love Donald Trump. And 0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.239 I said sure, and she said I love him and 0:37:59.360 --> 0:37:59.880 he loves me. 0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:05.240 And she said, and you. She said, you think. 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.560 That I am white to trash And I said, oh 0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.719 my goodness, I said I absolutely don't. And I said, 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.520 why on earth would you think this? And she said, well, 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:18.920 I want to tell you my story. I want to 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:19.560 tell you who I am. 0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:21.960 He thinks she's white trash, that's the crazy. 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.160 And I said, please tell me. 0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.040 And she said, well, Donald Trump came to see me, 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.560 meaning he did a rally up there where she lives. 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:32.400 And she said and he cares. And I said, tell 0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.640 me what his policies are that are going to help 0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:37.080 you in your community. And she said, I don't know, 0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.560 but I know he came here. And then she said 0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.000 I'm fifty five years old, and she said I'm a 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.400 single mother. And she goes and I have two adult 0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.000 daughters who are single mothers. And she said, where you live, 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.560 do you have charter schools? And I played and she 0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:55.440 played me and I said, oh, my goodness, yes, my 0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.200 husband right here is the board chair of a charter school, 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.640 Arkinson Achievement for School. And she was like, great, where 0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:05.480 I live here, we don't have any charter schools. We 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:07.719 have the Warst Schools in New York State. I was like, oh, 0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.239 she goes, where you live, you have after school programs 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:16.000 where the she said, I can't think of the world, 0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:19.240 but it was like a thinly veiled word that wasn't 0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:21.920 racially sensitive, and she goes, were the girls in your 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.000 neighborhood even after school program for those girls' kids? And 0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.480 I bet you raise money? And I said, yes, yes, 0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:29.520 you know, we have a big brother, big sister, blah blah, 0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:31.759 you know. She goes, yeah, you have charity events for 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.040 those things. You don't ever come up here and raise 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:37.000 any money, blah blah blah, so on and so forth, 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:40.960 and she said, we're dependent on social services and they 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.879 don't ever answer the phone. And she said, I don't 0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.480 have grandchildren who are washing up on shore wearing tattered 0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:52.400 clothes in an inflatable boat. And she said, my story 0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.120 isn't ugly enough to be on the cover of your newspaper, 0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.160 but I am not pretty enough to go to your 0:39:58.200 --> 0:39:58.840 house for dinner. 0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:02.920 But him a couple of esquire last months. So with 0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:03.800 the whole white problem. 0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:08.880 So but to her point, but to her point, it 0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:13.480 just makes me sad that she thinks she thinks he cares. 0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:14.799 Because he show up. 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.480 The thing is, I think he knows. The thing is 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.839 is that what makes me more frustrated with him than 0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:26.440 anything is because I believe he knows better because he's 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.920 a vesting promoter. He knows. 0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.719 Yeah, And it's like he played her. 0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:35.120 But here's the thing. 0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:41.560 She's not wrong in that Hillary Clinton did spend two 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:45.480 or three work weeks in the August of twenty sixteen 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:47.440 doing the one thing she didn't need to do. She 0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:51.680 went to the Hamptons. And oftentimes when people are their 0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:55.239 most desperate, they need someone to just look at them 0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.960 and just hold their hand. And this goes to the 0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.480 feeling of isolation people have with the birth of social media. 0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.120 People aren't talking to their neighbors or their friends. 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:05.359 Right. 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:07.520 I've lived in New York City for twenty two years. 0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.759 I never know the names of all my neighbors and 0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:12.560 the doorman and the building next to me. And you 0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.880 know who does my mother Because my mother is not 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.280 of a social media generation. She doesn't use the cell phone, 0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:21.840 she doesn't use so she doesn't use a computer, but 0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:25.600 she knows my community. And so whether Donald Trump is 0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.920 sincere or not, and you're one hundred percent right, he's not. 0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:31.359 In fact, when he goes and does those rallies, they 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:34.600 often say that once people become the president and they 0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:38.800 see the country, they become empathetic because they travel. 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:40.080 When President Trump does. 0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:45.839 A rally, he literally lands, unrolls the carpet, pitches the tent, 0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.320 does the show, throws the hats and gets back on 0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:51.279 and leaves. So what you're saying is completely true. It's 0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:54.600 sad because he doesn't care. But even if it's about 0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:56.400 giving people short. 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:59.359 Term hope, the idea of Kirie her. 0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.160 But I also think about when people grew to know 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:09.560 him and believe his story. They were watching The Apprentice. 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:13.600 And here's the thing. In the nineteen eighties, Johnny Carson 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:17.719 was considered the most trusted man in America. And it's 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.520 because when people were watching him, they're watching him the 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.359 same time they're watching Questlove at eleven thirty at night 0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:27.400 in their beds, in their underwear, in their pajamas, and 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.920 they feel like they have a relationship with you. Right. 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.800 Think about a beloved person in America, it's Al Roker. 0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:36.799 Al Roker doesn't just do the weather. He goes out 0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:40.759 into Rockefeller Plaza and he physically touches people who are 0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.200 out there in the cold, and he's talking to them 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:48.439 about their weather. On the first morning, and saw people 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:52.439 saw Donald Trump at ten o'clock at night on NBC News, 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.080 eating their ice creams, sitting on their couch, and they're 0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:58.800 watching him play a role that wasn't true. But this 0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:02.399 you're fired, straight talking. I'm the richest guy in New York. 0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:06.600 So if you watched Mike Bloomberg when he spoke at 0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:10.239 the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, I remember it because 0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.560 I worked at Bloomberger I said for five years. If 0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:17.560 you actually watched his speech, it was it wasn't bitter, 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:22.520 but there was this twinge in it because you could 0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:26.120 actually hear that Mike Bloomberg is going, this guy's a fraud. 0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:28.960 And he wasn't saying I'm the richest guy in New 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.799 York or I'm the most philanthropic, but as the guy 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.920 who is one of the greatest philanthropists in the country, 0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:39.400 who is a great businessman, who is extraordinary here. You 0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:43.800 actually watched him at that podium kind of shaking his head, going, 0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:48.799 this is a con man America. And whether he's whether 0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:53.399 President Trump is a con man or not, his salesmanship worked. 0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:55.360 And he didn't. It's funny. I feel like he almost 0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.759 he cheated and used it. It's privilege in a way 0:43:57.800 --> 0:43:59.759 for him to be able to just go touch them 0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:02.200 by then feel affected and not have to tell them 0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:04.360 what he's going to do for them or anything. Meanwhile, 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:07.000 I'm like Obama had to go touch people, lay down 0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:10.960 a plan, convince you, put a pen, you know what 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:12.680 I'm saying, And all he had to do was come 0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.920 to your neighborhood and say how you doing, I'm out 0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:19.120 go And that's just an interesting breakdown in that way. 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.399 But it's great to think about Obama now. The one 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.960 thing that Obama gave people, because remember Obama was elected 0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:29.600 as the financial crisis was crumbling. Obama was a message 0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:37.319 of hope, and President Trump had a different message of hope. Right, 0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:41.960 Obama had a universal message of inclusion and hope. And 0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.799 then eight years went by and a lot of people said, 0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:49.560 well I didn't get included, and President Trump, whether he's 0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:53.279 whether it's true or not, said but I love you 0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:55.840 and I see you. Let's do this. 0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:58.480 Why didn't he They make them prove it though, if 0:44:58.520 --> 0:44:59.400 you let me show me. 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:03.759 Because the benefit that he had is he wasn't a politician, 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.200 so there was no track record to point to. He 0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:09.799 was going up against somebody who had a lifetime track 0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:13.080 record in the public eye, who people had been critiquing 0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:17.319 for thirty years, and she had been critiqued so much 0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.680 that she lost a sense of her real self and 0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:24.160 humanity because she had been politicized for all those years. 0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:31.319 Okay, I was. 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:35.280 Also going to add in that, I mean, I personally 0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:41.040 believe that with Russia interfering with and I do I 0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:45.160 have to say allegedly interfering oh no more think yeah, 0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:50.960 but I still don't believe that he would have won 0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:56.520 had had the election been unscathed. I truly don't think that. 0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:00.879 I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I don't give 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:04.120 any I don't give any time or heart to that 0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.359 because the toothpaste ain't going back in the tube, right, 0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.880 and so like even for me, Robert Muller is going 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:14.000 to figure out what Robert Muller does, and in my opinion. 0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:15.440 That you're going to be a result, Like what do 0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:17.640 you think the end game is going to be? He's 0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:18.839 still going to do his four years. 0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:23.879 Honestly, I don't don't say eight years. Listen, I think 0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:25.600 there's a very good chance he gets reelected. 0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:26.880 Serious, I do do. 0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:30.879 I want to hear why? So what do you think? 0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:32.799 Why is it based on what you were just saying 0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:34.080 kind of about the interaction. 0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:37.400 No, I think that the president has uh And again 0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:39.440 I'm not saying it's good, but I think he has 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:42.560 a two pronged plan that works. So if you actually 0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:46.040 look at his policies, he is hooking up the rich, 0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:48.399 and the rich didn't actually vote for him the first 0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:52.279 time around, and he is helping them out all over 0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:55.160 the place. Corporate America and the super wealthy who do 0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:57.640 not have Trump signs in their front yard. They're not 0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.719 wearing Make America Great Again hats that they want to 0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:05.560 protect the status quo. They'll get quietly voting for him. 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:10.120 So he hooks them up on policies over here, and 0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.680 at the same time that he's doing that quietly while 0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:16.440 you're sleeping, he's doing a Trump rally. And at that 0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:20.360 Trump rally he gins up. He stirs up all of 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.439 those culture wars. So he's going, I know, I haven't 0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:25.239 helped you in business yet, and you're not making any 0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:27.960 more money. Give me time. Give me time, because when 0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:30.280 we go, oh my god, these tariffs, like he's killing 0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:32.560 the farmers, and I'm saying he's killing the farmers, and 0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:34.640 I'm saying it from a newsroom in New York. And 0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:37.320 then when you actually send a reporter to Kansas or 0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.880 Nebraska and you interview those farmers, those farmers say, you 0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:42.359 know what, I'm going to give him more time. 0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:46.879 At least he's taking this on because he talks the talk. 0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:52.960 But then he stirs up these race baiting culture arguments 0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.560 that take in the build the wall. You know, these 0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:59.000 three word slogans, and he goes to those rallies and 0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:02.839 those people are going yes. So his base stands with him. 0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:06.560 Rich people stand with him. And then the third lane, 0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:11.600 which is his truly winning lane. What wait, nope, it's 0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.200 judges the president. It's judges. 0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:15.880 Yeah, he's he's he's president. 0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:16.600 Judges. 0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:20.000 You've got two Supreme Court justices he's ready to gout 0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:25.600 on the bench. And even more than that is federal judges. Yes, okay, 0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:29.920 federal judges. He has got a record number of federal 0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:33.759 judges on the bench, and those are jobs for a lifetime, 0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:37.680 and the majority of them are white men under the 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.719 age of forty. So if you are a Christian conservative 0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.759 and you say, and I'm going to you, I don't 0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:47.840 understand how the evangelical community could be standing by the president. 0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:49.719 I mean, what do you think about the things that 0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.400 he says and does? Well, guess what if you're somebody 0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:54.840 in that community, you're saying, I'm not even going to 0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.200 know what Trump's name is in four years, But he 0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:00.600 is putting judges on the bench who support my beliefs 0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:04.360 and they're going to be there forever. And the justice 0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:09.520 system impacts every aspect of our lives you telling. 0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.280 Right, I mean yesterday are today? 0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:17.799 Excuse me, Paul Manniford's lawyers are arguing for a more 0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:21.279 lenient sentence, saying, well, he didn't kill anyone, he didn't 0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:24.279 run a drug cartel. He's not Bernie made Off. And 0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:28.319 I'm laughing to myself saying, well, really you're after you're 0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:31.440 representing Paul Manafort. Are you then going to be representing 0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:35.480 young African American males who get put in prison for 0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:38.440 small drug infractions and work on lesser sentences for them. 0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:40.320 The answer is no. 0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:46.200 Well, okay, you mentioned about the beliefs in the lifestyles 0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:49.400 of the coasts versus that of Middle America. 0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:52.319 But remember Middle America is also right here. We keep 0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:55.239 thinking that like that Trump voter is like way out 0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:56.640 there in the hinterland, and not. 0:49:58.840 --> 0:49:59.640 Is Middle America. 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:07.799 So with what Alexandria Alexandria Cortes says about this new 0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:13.040 Green Deal, all right, I know she's wet behind the ears, 0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:18.920 I know she's a newbie, But does she have a 0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:22.040 point or Because the thing is is that you can 0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:26.840 look at it both ways. Because the thing is that, okay, 0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:32.920 I respect the ideal of the Middle America worker or whatever, 0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:36.520 you know, the coal miner. I understand people have to 0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:39.720 feed their kids, but at what point do we realize 0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:44.200 that it's twenty twenty and technology and your day is 0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:45.319 just over a new well. 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:46.960 A lot of them aren't working. So aren't they kind 0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:49.799 of understanding that because having things shrunk in the middle. 0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:51.840 But it's also not you keep. 0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:55.480 Thinking it's the coal worker out there because people right here. 0:50:56.600 --> 0:50:59.120 Why didn't the lady from upstate that you were talking 0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:01.319 about earlier, why and she just moved down to New 0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:01.839 York City? 0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:07.279 No no, no, no, list stop stop listen, no no, no, 0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:10.839 but time out, time out. He's joking, But I'm kind 0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:13.160 of thinking of that. And but the thing is that 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:16.759 people know you know what I'm saying. 0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:24.440 I can barely, but that's real. That's real, like like 0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:29.480 the struggle is real for everyone, right, and the rich 0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:32.960 have gotten people who are like I'm talking rich, rich 0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:36.120 have gotten so rich that things don't even cut like 0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:37.640 there is no price on anything. 0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:41.759 How do you redistribute Sorry to interrupt your thought, how 0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.680 I'm trying to just get to the some of some 0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:48.280 of the end endgame. How do you redistribute wealth without 0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:50.800 redistributing wealth listen. 0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:51.680 It's really tricky. 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:52.160 You know. 0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:54.000 It's somebody who you should actually meet if you haven't 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:56.640 met him yet. Is a guy named Michael Tubbs. He's 0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:58.480 the current mayor of Stockton, California. 0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:01.640 I love this boy. 0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:05.600 He's twenty eight years old, grew up a single mom. 0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:07.800 I'm pretty sure his father was incarcerated for most of 0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:10.640 his life. He interned at Google I want to say 0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:13.080 he entered at Facebook, and then the last year before 0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:15.239 he graduated from college, he interned at the White House. 0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:17.600 And it comes home and he says to his mother, 0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:19.440 I want to go into politics. And she's like, uh uh. 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:21.840 She's like, you're the one who's going to get us 0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:23.640 out of here, and he said, no, I think this 0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:27.240 is my calling. He joined the city council in Stockton 0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:29.279 I want to say twenty two. He became mayor when 0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:33.880 he was twenty six. And he's this unbelievable force, and 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:38.000 through philanthropy, he just in the last month has implemented 0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:39.680 universal basic income. 0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:39.879 There. 0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:43.600 So there's not a clear answer yet. 0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:46.480 Philanthropy maybe is, but the. 0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:50.279 Problem is it can't just be philanthropy because that's like 0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:55.280 this system has been so gamed that we're then supposed 0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:57.879 to say, oh, thank you so much, Microsoft for giving 0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:00.880 us these crumbs and these pennies on the side. The 0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:06.600 answer isn't corporate America bad. Individuals are good. Government and 0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:09.960 corporate America have to find a way to work together 0:53:10.360 --> 0:53:12.560 or we are going to turn into the Third World. 0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:15.520 Do you think that corporate America should pay their taxes? 0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:19.160 That mean corporate America should pay their taxes, But that's 0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:24.320 not the issue. Corporate America isn't evil for paying zero taxes. 0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:26.640 They're legally gaming. 0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.000 The system, right, So it's a a system changed. 0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:33.160 So change the system, okay, as long as every company 0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:37.600 has a need for a tax department, as long as 0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:41.000 someone is a tax lawyer. As long as the tax 0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:47.120 system is so complicated that sophisticated, wealthy people can use 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:52.040 loophole after loophole to pay nothing and regular people can't, 0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:54.960 then the system doesn't work. So when they cut the 0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:58.000 corporate tax rate from thirty nine percent to twenty one percent, 0:53:58.440 --> 0:54:00.960 do you know what, really rich people did turn themselves 0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:05.480 into corporations, So now they pay twenty one percent corporations 0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:09.000 before the tax cut, we're paying too much, So it 0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:09.400 should be. 0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:16.480 Exactly shut up whatever, no good. 0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:19.719 The answer is we've got to find a way. When 0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:23.520 President Trump said make America great again for everyone at 0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:25.600 this table or for a women, you could say like 0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:30.480 that phrase is rooted in racism because for women and minorities. 0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:32.680 No, that was it wasn't great for us. We don't 0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:34.719 want to go back in town like black people don't 0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:35.279 own a time trap. 0:54:35.360 --> 0:54:37.560 But I'll tell you what things used to be for 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:42.000 many people. The disparity between the boss and the worker 0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:45.000 pay has never been great as great as it was now. 0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:48.279 It used to be like this and we're on the radio, 0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:50.240 so I shouldn't just use my hands or only speaking 0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:53.759 of no visual It has grown massively. We have to 0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:56.560 figure out a way to shrink that. So when they 0:54:56.600 --> 0:54:59.160 gave that big tax cut, instead of just giving it 0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:01.640 and hoping, hey, you're going to give people a raise. 0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:03.920 If you gave that tax cut, there should have been 0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:08.960 stipulations around worker pay. But I'll tell you one more 0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:10.640 thing and then I promise we could change the subject. 0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:16.799 Here's the issue. It is not a CEO's job. It's 0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:20.200 not his job to do right by the community and 0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:23.640 to do right by his employees. He should or she should, 0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:28.840 but as his fiducia. As a fiduciary, his job is 0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:31.799 to make money. It is to make money for his shareholder. 0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:35.560 It's to sell products. If you want to change the 0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:38.960 rules of the game, giddy up, let's change them. 0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:42.400 But given what the rules are, you can't. 0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:47.680 Let's say we were all shareholders in Questlove LLC, and 0:55:47.840 --> 0:55:50.800 Questlove decided tomorrow, Hey, guys. 0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:51.239 Do a mirror. 0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:57.000 Let's say we're all investors in a mere LLC and 0:55:57.160 --> 0:56:03.120 tomorrow Amir says, guess what I've decided. I'm going to 0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:06.799 take thirty percent of our profits and before I pay 0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:08.880 it back to you, I'm going to start a foundation 0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:11.040 and I'm going to give it to kids that I 0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:13.319 want to in Philadelphia. And then I'm going to turn 0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:16.480 this studio into I'm going to only use green energy. 0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:20.719 And the six of us sitting here could say, damn right, 0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:24.239 you won't. That's my money. I'm your investor. You don't 0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.520 get to pick to do the right thing. You don't 0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:29.799 get to pick to go green. That's my money. You're 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.080 going to give it back to me, and then I'm 0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:34.279 going to decide what I do with it. So we're 0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:38.040 sitting here with our arms folded demanding that corporate America 0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:41.320 quote unquote do the right thing. Then the answer is 0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.520 change the rules of the game of what the right 0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:49.080 thing is. Now, with people like Alexandra Ocasio Cortes getting elected, 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:52.080 that shows that there are more voters saying maybe I 0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:55.960 want something different, With millennials saying I only want to 0:56:56.040 --> 0:57:00.480 do business or buy products from companies whose values I support, 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:02.640 maybe you're gonna start to see difference. 0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:05.480 My concern is those things are only happening at the margin. 0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:14.480 Yes, once you start really auditing, you know, it's funny. 0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:18.880 Because it's president it is because people only do the 0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:20.560 right thing after they try everything else. 0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:23.680 Because once you really start auditing the companies that you 0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:26.240 support in the smallest ways, whether it's the cereal that 0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:29.240 you eat or the stocks that you yeah, because you'll 0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:31.200 start seeing it's funny because they are starting to learn 0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:33.600 the politics of these corporations or presidents and things of 0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:35.600 that nature. And it's kind of ill because you have 0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:38.800 to make these decisions like do I stop doing what 0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:40.800 I've been doing for ten years because now I know 0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:43.400 something that I people didn't used to know ten years ago. 0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:45.960 But do you reward the companies that do the right thing. 0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:46.840 And here's why I ask. 0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:47.440 So. 0:57:47.720 --> 0:57:50.840 Just today I sat down with Ed Stack. Ed Sack 0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:53.800 is the CEO of Dick Sporting Goods. Dick Sporting Goods 0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:57.360 is based in Pittsburgh. If you remember, it'll be a 0:57:57.480 --> 0:58:01.680 year ago Thursday, after the Parkland shooting, they said we're 0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:05.240 not going to sell assault rifles anymore. Okay, that's a 0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:08.560 big deal. That's a company based in Pittsburgh with huge 0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.720 hunting business. They went to their sales dropped, I want 0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:14.240 to say, just under, just like four percent. And here's 0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:17.200 what I want to know. All those activist groups who 0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:20.520 stand up and say, let's boycott this company, let's boycott 0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:23.160 that company, and they all stand not they all many 0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:26.600 people get righteous and indignant and they say, this company 0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:27.760 doesn't stand for my values. 0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:28.640 I'm boycotting them. 0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:31.920 I want to know, on the other side, when a 0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:36.200 company stands up and makes a move that's around culture 0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:39.720 or social justice, definitely, where are those groups lining up 0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:41.120 to go buy products there? 0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:45.040 We're looking for something to boycott and with the yeah company, 0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:47.280 but the people company, But the people who were. 0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:49.320 Around they still I think the people who were boycotting 0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:51.520 with them still see that and go back. I mean 0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:53.680 I remember I hate to use Target as an example, 0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:57.480 but targeted during Hurricane Katrina. Right, they did all this stuff, 0:58:57.480 --> 0:58:59.880 they gave whatever that I remember that and that state 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:02.160 my mind until you know, they fucked up everybody's debit 0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:03.960 card situation. But still. 0:59:08.160 --> 0:59:12.000 We need to remember gratitude and forgiveness because this is 0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:15.200 an angry, divided time and we're quick to get mad 0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:17.440 and quick to say I'm done with you, I'm finished 0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:19.560 with you when someone does something we support. 0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:26.640 You're also one of the few journalists that I know 0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:31.800 that actually takes a portion of your show to say, 0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:33.400 here's some good things. 0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:34.560 Power respect. 0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:35.480 That's the thing. 0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:39.040 And the thing is is that no one's ever going 0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:43.280 to report the good news like I didn't know about. 0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:46.400 I think that's admirable that Dick Sporting Goods did that, 0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:51.640 But I don't think we're in society that necessarily will 0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:54.680 throw a ticket tape parade because someone helped my grandmother 0:59:54.800 --> 0:59:56.000 across the street today. 0:59:56.440 --> 0:59:58.880 Let's find a way to do that. And the truth 0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:01.439 is right, so people always I'm going to get it wrong. 1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:07.720 A newspaper is something like right. And we do love 1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:11.360 train wrecks, we do love reality shows, we love the 1:00:11.440 --> 1:00:14.960 world Wrestling Federation. But we have to find a way, 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:20.200 not in some Pollyanna way, but at the margins to 1:00:20.400 --> 1:00:21.520 celebrate good things. 1:00:21.800 --> 1:00:23.760 But is it also okay? 1:00:23.840 --> 1:00:27.240 You remember the Chris Rock joke where he's like, uh, 1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:31.640 Fithers always want credit for something this. Yeah, I was 1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:32.560 actually gonna bring that up. 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:34.520 Tell me, tell me no. 1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:39.560 No, I mean like when dad say I'm babysitting my kids. Exactly, 1:00:39.920 --> 1:00:41.240 You're watching your offspring. 1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:43.880 Your jobs, supposed to my keys, you supposed to take 1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:47.680 care of your key. So it's it's but could that 1:00:47.880 --> 1:00:49.040 also be the case, like. 1:00:49.880 --> 1:00:52.440 You should give bad company. Yeah, you know, it's not 1:00:52.480 --> 1:00:53.560 a big deal, you should. 1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:56.680 I mean, but in what ways would you feel that 1:00:56.760 --> 1:01:03.600 it's more prudent or beneficial for said protesters to let 1:01:03.720 --> 1:01:08.000 us know that it's great to shop at Dix again? 1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:11.400 Listen, you you watch those protests. 1:01:13.160 --> 1:01:17.000 You watch those protest groups go off on social media 1:01:17.840 --> 1:01:20.240 and say I'm done with this company instead. 1:01:20.480 --> 1:01:20.720 Great. 1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:23.520 Fine, Then when I don't know, Father's Day comes around, 1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:26.600 I want to see that same handle, say great, Dick's 1:01:28.920 --> 1:01:29.920 dorky golf shoes. 1:01:30.000 --> 1:01:32.200 I'm gonna see. But Sey, I think what you're saying, 1:01:32.320 --> 1:01:34.280 that's a whole nother round because we all know, and 1:01:34.360 --> 1:01:36.000 you know this even better than we do. There are 1:01:36.240 --> 1:01:39.640 organizations that are just for protesting, like, uh, even with 1:01:40.880 --> 1:01:45.080 black people black Lives Matter. Black Lives Matter is particularly 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:47.880 a protest organization, right, so they might not be the 1:01:47.960 --> 1:01:49.920 ones that are gonna come back afterwards and be like, so, 1:01:50.440 --> 1:01:52.600 you know, now we can support da DA It seems 1:01:52.600 --> 1:01:54.600 like it needs to be in some ore entities that 1:01:55.040 --> 1:01:56.320 do that clean up on the back end. 1:01:56.480 --> 1:01:58.919 Yes, I'm just saying there has to be a way 1:01:59.560 --> 1:02:04.240 to find goodness and push the goodness forward because otherwise 1:02:04.560 --> 1:02:07.720 we're just anger on top of anger, and I know 1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:09.280 that every day. 1:02:09.520 --> 1:02:13.480 But there's a lot of unresolved issues, a lot I 1:02:13.560 --> 1:02:17.120 feel like. I think in the case of the Parkland 1:02:17.160 --> 1:02:24.480 shooting time, Yes, whenever there is a shooting and an occurrence, 1:02:26.920 --> 1:02:29.840 the one question that no one ever seems to bring 1:02:29.960 --> 1:02:36.320 up in you know, whenever these problems arise, that I 1:02:36.480 --> 1:02:47.480 never seemed to hear is the reasoning behind wanting arm 1:02:47.600 --> 1:02:50.320 to be armed, of which no one is really going 1:02:50.400 --> 1:02:52.640 to talk about. You know, the reason why arms are 1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:56.480 used in the first place was for slaves to keep 1:02:56.520 --> 1:02:58.520 slaves in the line, to keep them from running away. 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:02.040 Like we know, get to that part of the conversation. 1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:03.840 That's like our part. They don't get to our parts 1:03:03.880 --> 1:03:05.760 of the conversation, which is kind of like the best 1:03:05.800 --> 1:03:06.720 thing that I feel like. 1:03:06.720 --> 1:03:12.360 The history of the gun in America starts with what 1:03:12.560 --> 1:03:17.080 were they used for? And it's almost like the white elephant, that. 1:03:17.480 --> 1:03:18.280 Do we talk about. 1:03:20.120 --> 1:03:23.360 What dogs was used for? I mean, shit, I mean. 1:03:27.920 --> 1:03:29.440 They used to chase black people, and you know, that's 1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:30.760 what it was all about. But that's fine, you know, 1:03:30.800 --> 1:03:31.240 I get that. 1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:33.440 Yeah, yeah, I know they did. I don't I don't 1:03:33.480 --> 1:03:36.600 fuck with dollars though Zara's not still happy with these answers. 1:03:36.680 --> 1:03:40.440 But my point is that my point is that I 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:45.040 don't know if I would say, hey, okay, well dick'porting 1:03:45.080 --> 1:03:47.880 Goods did right by us, so go buy rifle. Like 1:03:48.480 --> 1:03:50.200 I personally, I mean, I don't want to put my 1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:58.360 personal beliefs on people. But you know, wait, wait, let 1:03:58.400 --> 1:04:01.160 me let me, let me backtrack. You're from the down South, 1:04:01.480 --> 1:04:08.240 uh fante. Now, I was very shocked at Big Mike's 1:04:10.280 --> 1:04:14.320 the killer the warning thing, yeah, killer killer Mike's position 1:04:14.440 --> 1:04:18.040 about wanting to be armed, and he felt he you know, 1:04:19.400 --> 1:04:22.800 he's a doctor. Second second memorized teaches his daughter how 1:04:22.840 --> 1:04:25.320 to do it. But I understand the lifestyle of which 1:04:25.360 --> 1:04:28.120 he grew up in under the Mason Dixon line down south, 1:04:28.880 --> 1:04:33.760 that that's necessary. That's a necessity for him. In your 1:04:34.120 --> 1:04:39.000 experiences in North Carolina, do you feel that you need 1:04:39.200 --> 1:04:40.440 to be armed or. 1:04:41.920 --> 1:04:47.080 Not really because you just don't necessarily dwell where you feel. Yeah, 1:04:47.200 --> 1:04:50.280 I mean, I mean, listen, well, I don't know if 1:04:50.280 --> 1:04:51.080 this is a dwelling thing. 1:04:51.120 --> 1:04:51.760 I mean for us. 1:04:52.080 --> 1:04:55.000 Like so for my my earliest experience with guns, my 1:04:55.080 --> 1:04:57.720 granddaddy had a shotgun he kept like right behind the bed. 1:04:57.800 --> 1:04:58.240 You know what I'm saying. 1:04:58.240 --> 1:05:00.600 You had like a rifle back there, and I mean 1:05:01.080 --> 1:05:03.880 just in casey. Yeah, I guess your grandparents, I think, Yeah, 1:05:03.880 --> 1:05:04.959 all these granddaddy's had. 1:05:04.880 --> 1:05:06.440 To gun grandmattle pistols. 1:05:06.520 --> 1:05:08.600 Yeah, so my grand my granddaddy had the gun. 1:05:09.040 --> 1:05:11.520 And I mean, like all my homies they pops had 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:14.880 like shotguns or whatever. But it wasn't a thing of 1:05:14.960 --> 1:05:17.480 where like if you felt like you needed to, like 1:05:17.520 --> 1:05:20.240 if you were in danger or whatever, that you felt 1:05:20.280 --> 1:05:22.040 like you had to carry a gun. When I was 1:05:22.080 --> 1:05:24.520 coming up, it just wasn't It just wasn't that if 1:05:24.600 --> 1:05:27.400 it was really somebody, if you was just a regular dude, 1:05:27.400 --> 1:05:28.960 and my regular dude, if you was just a dude 1:05:29.000 --> 1:05:31.160 that just went to school, just you know, just you 1:05:31.280 --> 1:05:32.160 was just a regular cat. 1:05:32.560 --> 1:05:34.880 If you had problems with somebody, you just damn y'all 1:05:34.960 --> 1:05:35.480 just scrapped. 1:05:35.600 --> 1:05:37.120 But in twenty nineteen, if you. 1:05:37.240 --> 1:05:39.880 Had guns, like if the niggas I knew they had guns, 1:05:39.920 --> 1:05:41.840 they was like all the duds in the streets. 1:05:41.920 --> 1:05:44.479 So but in twenty nineteen, fast forward, do you feel 1:05:44.480 --> 1:05:47.000 like I feel like I know more people regular as 1:05:47.040 --> 1:05:49.880 we like to say that have at least something in 1:05:49.920 --> 1:05:51.440 the house. Not did you carry, but at least. 1:05:51.280 --> 1:05:52.840 Something, Yeah, something in the house. Yeah, I mean I 1:05:53.000 --> 1:05:55.240 know some I got like one home. You just got 1:05:55.320 --> 1:05:57.680 like a ton of fucking guns. I've always wanted to 1:05:57.720 --> 1:05:59.840 ask those people, how often have you had to use 1:06:00.240 --> 1:06:02.560 the gun the youth? Yeah, that you just having you 1:06:02.960 --> 1:06:03.120 go to. 1:06:03.160 --> 1:06:05.000 The gun range, just make sure the muscles still work. 1:06:05.120 --> 1:06:07.320 Yeah, Because the thing is even with that, like when 1:06:07.360 --> 1:06:11.520 people say it's for home defense, Like I don't think 1:06:11.520 --> 1:06:13.920 people understand like how quick that ship jump off? Dude, Like, 1:06:14.120 --> 1:06:16.880 so unless you just walk around your house and your 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:21.360 god damns with your gun you up under the on 1:06:21.480 --> 1:06:24.280 the top shelf, up under all them books. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1:06:24.400 --> 1:06:27.320 like they read like niggas. Man the other night, like 1:06:27.400 --> 1:06:29.800 we was in I was up one night this was 1:06:30.040 --> 1:06:32.360 this was like there's a couple of weeks ago. So 1:06:32.520 --> 1:06:35.520 I'm in the crib and I'm just up late, and 1:06:35.680 --> 1:06:37.240 you know, it's I'm just in my regular hours. It's 1:06:37.280 --> 1:06:39.600 like maybe like three four in the morning, and so 1:06:40.680 --> 1:06:43.840 our motion to tept to light comes on outside. 1:06:44.040 --> 1:06:46.400 So but we live around like woods and ship. So 1:06:46.440 --> 1:06:47.480 it's I'm thinking animal. 1:06:47.600 --> 1:06:48.720 It could have been an animal, it could have been 1:06:48.720 --> 1:06:50.120 a rand cause it could have been any kind of ship. 1:06:50.480 --> 1:06:52.880 And so I go and I open, like just look 1:06:52.920 --> 1:06:57.080 in the window and it's like a kid. It looks 1:06:57.240 --> 1:07:01.280 literally like my son outside, right, so like my older son. 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:04.120 I got two boys, eighteen thirteen, so I'm seeing what 1:07:04.320 --> 1:07:06.280 looks exactly like my son. 1:07:06.720 --> 1:07:09.280 So my first thinking, I'm just I was like, why 1:07:09.440 --> 1:07:10.440 is my son outside? 1:07:10.560 --> 1:07:10.880 At four? 1:07:11.000 --> 1:07:13.560 Them like what hold the fuck up? And then it 1:07:13.680 --> 1:07:16.040 clicks on me, so I like look at the window. 1:07:16.120 --> 1:07:18.840 I tap and homie, look, I run outside. What the 1:07:18.920 --> 1:07:21.320 fuck y'all doing? These niggas take off running? It was 1:07:21.400 --> 1:07:22.800 two It was these kids. 1:07:22.880 --> 1:07:25.400 So because we live like by high school. So what 1:07:25.520 --> 1:07:25.720 it is? 1:07:25.840 --> 1:07:28.920 It is these these fucking idiots. No, they won't even 1:07:28.920 --> 1:07:30.560 smoke it. They do this shit where they just go 1:07:30.720 --> 1:07:32.600 to cars and they don't even break in the car. 1:07:32.680 --> 1:07:35.320 They don't steal this cap, just try to damn try 1:07:35.360 --> 1:07:37.240 to if it's something unlocked. If the car is nun locked, 1:07:37.240 --> 1:07:38.400 they see if it's a lot, and then try to 1:07:38.400 --> 1:07:40.200 go and get something out of the car. So I 1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:44.240 run outside and like like run them off. And then 1:07:44.280 --> 1:07:46.160 I'm thinking, but I ain't got no gun. We mean, 1:07:46.200 --> 1:07:48.040 I'm not even thinking to go get a gun on knife. 1:07:48.120 --> 1:07:49.800 I'm just like, what the fuck y'all niggas do? So 1:07:49.840 --> 1:07:52.200 I run out, they run off. So then it becomes 1:07:52.240 --> 1:07:55.400 a whole nother thing because now I'm like, okay, do 1:07:55.520 --> 1:07:57.520 I want to call the police, because then these niggas 1:07:57.560 --> 1:07:59.920 might get shot. So it's like, you know what I mean, 1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:02.320 I wish we did so, but it's like these are 1:08:02.400 --> 1:08:05.480 the levels whenever people talk that gun ship, I'm like, dog, 1:08:06.080 --> 1:08:08.840 but you know that y'all ain't really been in no 1:08:09.080 --> 1:08:09.680 smoke before. 1:08:11.160 --> 1:08:13.480 Because you go the wrong house, well, yeah, you don't 1:08:13.480 --> 1:08:15.240 want you. They was lucky they went to your house. 1:08:15.280 --> 1:08:17.120 You was like, yeah, because like the white dude was 1:08:17.160 --> 1:08:18.639 the next to me, I think that got a RC 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:20.840 He could have you know, he could have let up 1:08:21.120 --> 1:08:22.320 what it was a thing where it was. 1:08:22.920 --> 1:08:25.200 It was just like, dude, like I'm looking at this 1:08:25.240 --> 1:08:26.240 ship and it's just like, Yo. 1:08:26.360 --> 1:08:28.360 First of all, I'm like, Okay, y'all are fucking idiots, 1:08:28.439 --> 1:08:30.400 because who the fuck try to breaking cars in a 1:08:30.479 --> 1:08:31.320 cul de sac nigga. 1:08:31.400 --> 1:08:32.880 It ain't but one way in, one way out. 1:08:32.920 --> 1:08:35.160 So y'all ain't that fucking suburban boy? 1:08:36.360 --> 1:08:38.720 I'm like, y'all ain't really about that action, you know 1:08:38.760 --> 1:08:41.080 what I mean. So I came out and like we 1:08:41.240 --> 1:08:43.760 called police or whatever. I'm just like, look what they 1:08:43.800 --> 1:08:45.479 look like. I'm like, I just they had on hoods. 1:08:45.479 --> 1:08:48.320 I don't know, but yeah. So and even in moments 1:08:48.400 --> 1:08:49.599 like that, like me and my wife we talked, Yo, 1:08:49.680 --> 1:08:51.280 so do you think it's time to get a gun? 1:08:51.320 --> 1:08:55.680 I was like, well that was a one yes, Like 1:08:55.760 --> 1:08:56.519 I don't, I don't know. 1:08:56.680 --> 1:08:59.040 It just ain't that again, unless you just gonna be 1:08:59.040 --> 1:09:02.439 a commando nigga that just walk around in your boxes 1:09:02.479 --> 1:09:05.160 with a gun just while you eat your fucking corn. 1:09:05.360 --> 1:09:08.560 Your face props it. Yeah, Like, are you describing to 1:09:08.600 --> 1:09:14.559 Omar right now for the yeah on bacon? Dude? 1:09:14.640 --> 1:09:17.320 I just don't, yeah, And I just don't live my 1:09:17.439 --> 1:09:21.160 life in a way that like that requires that I 1:09:21.600 --> 1:09:22.040 find a thing. 1:09:22.320 --> 1:09:22.519 Yeah. 1:09:23.400 --> 1:09:25.080 So when you were just speaking, I was thinking, So 1:09:25.200 --> 1:09:28.920 this morning, my son, who's twelve, was pressing my husband 1:09:28.960 --> 1:09:31.200 and I that the music we let him listen to 1:09:31.800 --> 1:09:34.439 we have it on a filter that he can only 1:09:34.520 --> 1:09:37.960 listen to the clean version of songs cool, And he's 1:09:38.000 --> 1:09:40.400 complaining he's twelve, and he's like, I don't want to 1:09:40.439 --> 1:09:42.040 listen to the clean version. That means there's lots of 1:09:42.080 --> 1:09:44.760 songs I can't listen to, blah blah blah. What's the 1:09:44.840 --> 1:09:45.840 reason why I can't? 1:09:46.960 --> 1:09:49.840 And I can't? Really, I didn't really have a good answer. 1:09:49.920 --> 1:09:52.920 It requires a history lesson right, so right here, right, 1:09:53.360 --> 1:09:55.280 So I didn't really have a good answer. And so 1:09:55.360 --> 1:09:58.240 while you're sitting here speaking, and I'm going thinking about 1:09:58.280 --> 1:10:00.280 my son listening to this, because obviously is going to 1:10:00.320 --> 1:10:02.240 want to listen to it, he's gonna have a conversation 1:10:02.360 --> 1:10:04.520 with me after again about. 1:10:04.240 --> 1:10:04.800 The N word. 1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:07.040 I knew that's where you were going, So I want 1:10:07.120 --> 1:10:07.759 you to help. 1:10:07.600 --> 1:10:11.280 Me right, because there's been all these conversations that lack 1:10:11.439 --> 1:10:14.439 education or that lack nuance, and now people are giving 1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:15.400 the wrong answer. 1:10:16.479 --> 1:10:18.920 I want you to honestly help me with, like what's 1:10:19.000 --> 1:10:19.360 my right? 1:10:19.920 --> 1:10:19.960 No? 1:10:21.000 --> 1:10:24.400 No, no, obviously they can't, But what's obviously and what? 1:10:24.640 --> 1:10:27.519 And when you're speaking to children who can only who 1:10:27.560 --> 1:10:27.800 are like? 1:10:28.080 --> 1:10:29.840 Who's funny? 1:10:34.040 --> 1:10:35.840 From my heart and mine couldn't be more. 1:10:36.040 --> 1:10:38.040 Understand And it's funny because I would have thought that 1:10:38.080 --> 1:10:39.760 you wouldn't have been serious until a week ago when 1:10:39.760 --> 1:10:42.040 I was sitting randomly sitting with them, a white mom 1:10:42.040 --> 1:10:43.840 who had like a one year old son, and I 1:10:43.880 --> 1:10:46.240 thought it was funny the cover of the Esquire magazine 1:10:46.280 --> 1:10:49.280 about the white boy, and she said, but no, seriously, though, 1:10:49.920 --> 1:10:51.960 what do I tell my son? How do I raise 1:10:52.040 --> 1:10:54.559 my son in this world and tell him how to react? 1:10:54.560 --> 1:10:57.360 And I thought it was such an interesting conversation because 1:10:57.479 --> 1:10:59.160 you know, black people have been doing this all our lives. 1:10:59.400 --> 1:11:02.240 You know, we've had to extra nurture, extra education, and 1:11:02.360 --> 1:11:05.439 so now it's time for white people to extra educate, 1:11:05.760 --> 1:11:08.679 extra nurture and teach about culture. And a lot of times, 1:11:08.720 --> 1:11:11.320 I know it sucks for you guys, because you weren't 1:11:12.240 --> 1:11:14.000 a lot of people like her. She wasn't taught a 1:11:14.040 --> 1:11:15.479 lot of things, so she doesn't like she doesn't have 1:11:15.520 --> 1:11:17.560 the answer to that question, the history of the N 1:11:17.640 --> 1:11:19.519 word and everything else. So that's all I was going 1:11:19.560 --> 1:11:20.920 to say. I said, I just wanted to say in 1:11:21.160 --> 1:11:23.800 that moment that I'm taking this conversation very seriously now 1:11:23.840 --> 1:11:25.720 when I used to kind of laugh, but now you 1:11:25.840 --> 1:11:28.800 have to help about helping word. 1:11:30.760 --> 1:11:32.880 All right, So here's the thing with white people and 1:11:33.160 --> 1:11:35.720 and niggas a look talk about it. 1:11:37.240 --> 1:11:40.360 Look, dude, this ship is real easy. Look like you 1:11:40.479 --> 1:11:43.840 can't in the terms of music. So just on the 1:11:43.920 --> 1:11:46.960 base level, like we're talking to your son about explicit lyrics. 1:11:48.479 --> 1:11:51.280 What I went through with my son like when they 1:11:51.320 --> 1:11:54.760 were when they were younger, my whole thing was, I mean, 1:11:54.840 --> 1:11:59.479 because I make music. So my whole thing was now again, 1:11:59.640 --> 1:12:02.080 when I I was you know, in when I was 1:12:02.280 --> 1:12:05.160 a kid, you could buy the clean version from kmart 1:12:05.320 --> 1:12:07.400 or whatever, and the only way you could hear the 1:12:07.479 --> 1:12:10.760 explicit version was if your homie had the tape or 1:12:10.800 --> 1:12:13.080 if a cousin had the tape or whatever. So there 1:12:13.280 --> 1:12:16.320 was some kind of separation. Now we all all into 1:12:16.360 --> 1:12:20.120 the same Internet, there is no separation, so it's very yeah, 1:12:20.520 --> 1:12:23.200 don't pay for none of the shit. So the thing 1:12:23.360 --> 1:12:26.240 now is trying to limit them to the clean versions 1:12:26.280 --> 1:12:28.720 of something. It really is just kind of a moot point, 1:12:28.760 --> 1:12:32.519 because I mean they can if you google that one song, 1:12:33.200 --> 1:12:35.000 I promise you the clean version ain't gonna be the 1:12:35.000 --> 1:12:36.479 one to come up, so you know what I mean. 1:12:36.600 --> 1:12:39.040 So my thing was always, well, listen if I know 1:12:39.120 --> 1:12:41.680 y'all gonna listen to this fuck shit. So yeah, I 1:12:41.800 --> 1:12:43.320 was like, I know y'all gonna listen to this bullshit, 1:12:43.720 --> 1:12:46.160 so listen to it with me and we can have 1:12:46.240 --> 1:12:49.639 a conversation about what this really means. Because also too, 1:12:49.760 --> 1:12:54.360 there's another level where y'all thinking about like the you know, 1:12:54.479 --> 1:12:56.920 from the racial aspect and a lot of that hip 1:12:56.920 --> 1:12:59.599 hop shit. It's a lot of gang references in gang culture. 1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:03.559 And I'm like, Homie, when when my son was. 1:13:03.560 --> 1:13:08.920 A kid, well that too. But then even like the 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:09.680 ship before, like. 1:13:09.720 --> 1:13:12.960 Blank Wayne when he was like it was blood like, 1:13:13.080 --> 1:13:15.280 so it's a lot of like coded language and that 1:13:15.360 --> 1:13:17.920 ship they don't know that they don't know, And I'm like, Homie, 1:13:18.000 --> 1:13:21.040 you you say that ship in the wrong place, You're 1:13:21.040 --> 1:13:24.040 gonna get fucked up. So my thing was, I just 1:13:24.160 --> 1:13:26.040 need to have a conversation with you, so y'all know 1:13:26.200 --> 1:13:30.240 exactly what this is. You know what these references are? 1:13:30.240 --> 1:13:32.679 Stan starts saying that they from Bompton. 1:13:34.280 --> 1:13:35.519 It's over, it's a. 1:13:35.520 --> 1:13:37.560 Wrap, like, YO, no know, but how does Stephanie. But 1:13:37.600 --> 1:13:39.439 that's ill because you knew these things, right. But Stephanie's 1:13:39.439 --> 1:13:40.760 trying to say too that she doesn't know all of 1:13:40.800 --> 1:13:41.559 these right. 1:13:41.680 --> 1:13:46.439 So just in general, somebody cares to put your you 1:13:46.680 --> 1:13:49.000 have to take yourself down the track of people who 1:13:49.080 --> 1:13:50.120 care less and less. 1:13:50.080 --> 1:13:53.920 And we listen forget the moral stance up should we 1:13:53.920 --> 1:13:54.720 say should we not say it? 1:13:54.800 --> 1:13:56.200 Should we listen to it and not listen to it? 1:13:56.960 --> 1:13:59.240 Like could even say that right now, we're in canceled guards. 1:13:59.320 --> 1:14:00.479 We're in cancel culture. 1:14:02.120 --> 1:14:06.000 We're we live and cancel, cancel, cancel our can canceled, 1:14:06.400 --> 1:14:07.080 We cancel him. 1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:10.759 But this is how social media works. We're in cancel culture. 1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:14.840 And we're also in in beat you down now and 1:14:14.880 --> 1:14:16.280 ask questions later right there. 1:14:16.360 --> 1:14:18.840 And I don't want to be I want to find 1:14:18.880 --> 1:14:21.439 a way to be in a forgiveness culture and at 1:14:21.520 --> 1:14:24.120 least here and get smarter and think more. 1:14:24.360 --> 1:14:25.920 Well, I would just say with the kids, I mean, 1:14:26.360 --> 1:14:29.960 I wouldn't personally limit them to the clean version just 1:14:30.000 --> 1:14:31.760 because that's just gonna make them want the dirty shit 1:14:31.840 --> 1:14:33.920 even more. So My thing is just like, all right, 1:14:34.040 --> 1:14:36.200 we're gonna listen to the dirty ship, but let's listen 1:14:36.280 --> 1:14:38.960 to what explain and explain like what it's about. And 1:14:39.000 --> 1:14:40.880 when it just comes to saying niggas like Homie, you 1:14:40.960 --> 1:14:43.080 just can't say that ship like I understand this show. 1:14:43.200 --> 1:14:45.559 You might listen to the jams and you can even 1:14:45.600 --> 1:14:47.840 if you say it in your room. You might say 1:14:47.880 --> 1:14:50.919 it in your room, and I know, like it's unfair 1:14:51.080 --> 1:14:52.360 if it's a call and response. 1:14:52.520 --> 1:14:54.600 If he go to a show and. 1:14:56.160 --> 1:14:58.439 You know, my favorite part of a jay Z concert is. 1:15:02.680 --> 1:15:05.320 I've seen eighteen jay Z shows and literally when that 1:15:05.400 --> 1:15:12.080 ship starts to the widest part and just look at him, 1:15:12.160 --> 1:15:20.720 like I still do to this day, look like you're 1:15:20.720 --> 1:15:21.160 gonna say it. 1:15:21.400 --> 1:15:29.840 You're gonna say it, Homie, Yeah you got You just 1:15:29.960 --> 1:15:31.560 have to explain to him, like yo, dog, Like I 1:15:31.720 --> 1:15:33.800 know the rappers are saying it, and I know you 1:15:33.880 --> 1:15:35.040 might want to say you might even say it in 1:15:35.120 --> 1:15:37.960 your head. But if you say this outside, like in 1:15:38.080 --> 1:15:41.720 the world, like you could get sucked up, just their consequences, 1:15:41.960 --> 1:15:42.840 consequences that ship. 1:15:42.920 --> 1:15:44.400 Okay, well you're done. 1:15:44.640 --> 1:15:46.840 I think I did I answer the question, Stephen, was 1:15:46.880 --> 1:15:49.320 that that makes sense. I appreciate it. 1:15:49.680 --> 1:15:52.400 Actually, uh, Steph, well that's what I wanted my. 1:15:52.960 --> 1:15:57.360 But you answered it, and I want to because it 1:15:57.439 --> 1:16:01.160 speaks to exactly this cancel culture, this beat up and 1:16:01.240 --> 1:16:03.640 give an answer later. And for me, the goal in 1:16:03.720 --> 1:16:08.519 twenty nineteen should get out of cancel culture and figure 1:16:08.560 --> 1:16:11.880 out a way to say. I might disagree with you, 1:16:12.439 --> 1:16:14.360 but I hear you and I see you, because right 1:16:14.400 --> 1:16:15.439 now we're not giving one another. 1:16:15.439 --> 1:16:17.400 You're gonna do that stuff. You're gonna do that to arc, 1:16:17.600 --> 1:16:19.400 You're gonna listen here, I'm seeing what you got to say. 1:16:19.240 --> 1:16:19.680 What you doing. 1:16:20.400 --> 1:16:21.240 She hasn't been peen on. 1:16:21.320 --> 1:16:22.160 I mean some people like. 1:16:24.160 --> 1:16:25.280 No love. 1:16:29.280 --> 1:16:31.280 The thing the thing with cancel culture too. I mean, 1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:33.479 I agree with what you're saying, and I don't think. 1:16:33.600 --> 1:16:35.240 I don't think gonna get another shot. 1:16:35.520 --> 1:16:37.519 But we talked to the. 1:16:37.600 --> 1:16:40.920 Fact that the woman from the daycare building out yeah yeah, yeah, 1:16:42.439 --> 1:16:46.559 here a white lady that owns a daycare that is Alabama. Nah, 1:16:46.680 --> 1:16:48.400 she white, Well, she well, you know what. I saw 1:16:48.479 --> 1:16:52.160 footage of her in the in the in the McDonald's. 1:16:52.600 --> 1:16:57.240 She looked white. She owns she importantly, she owns nine businesses. 1:16:57.520 --> 1:16:59.320 Okay, what what's what is? 1:16:59.479 --> 1:17:02.840 What is R Kelly's new work? Like it was like, 1:17:03.040 --> 1:17:04.720 should R Kelly be around him? Like I don't know 1:17:04.840 --> 1:17:08.640 since ignition, I'm nothing. 1:17:07.320 --> 1:17:09.720 But they wanted to be total canceled like today and 1:17:09.880 --> 1:17:12.840 yesterday's work. It's not just about today, it's about erasure. 1:17:13.080 --> 1:17:18.800 Eracis well, yeah, the checks up coming. His last few 1:17:18.840 --> 1:17:19.960 albums have sold nothing. 1:17:20.240 --> 1:17:23.160 Yeah, but he made so much money they shouldn't even matter. 1:17:23.439 --> 1:17:26.040 Boy, I think I didn't listen till all nineteen minutes 1:17:26.080 --> 1:17:29.120 of that song I did. What did he admit that 1:17:29.240 --> 1:17:31.640 he sold his publishing? He admitted, so, he admitted he 1:17:31.720 --> 1:17:36.280 sold his publishing. That he uh, he admitted he's he 1:17:36.400 --> 1:17:37.719 can't read. He admitted he's. 1:17:37.640 --> 1:17:40.599 Illiterate, but he sold his publishing. 1:17:40.800 --> 1:17:44.200 That's what he said in the Valuable Acid because he 1:17:44.680 --> 1:17:47.600 probably had to. Like, man, y'all understand, bro, like for 1:17:47.720 --> 1:17:51.880 you to that's the terminal trial. Five years I understand that. 1:17:52.240 --> 1:17:54.000 Five years of goddamn Billable album. 1:17:54.280 --> 1:17:56.880 I mean to say, he can't afford his legal bills. 1:17:57.360 --> 1:17:59.360 There's no Trump super pack paying them. 1:17:59.520 --> 1:18:04.400 Likes weren't that good? I mean they were probably good. 1:18:05.320 --> 1:18:08.519 They were probably even if they were slow. You don't 1:18:08.720 --> 1:18:12.560 piss on cheering, so they've been good for you. But 1:18:12.600 --> 1:18:14.320 I'm just saying, you know, if you got to keep 1:18:14.400 --> 1:18:17.520 paying off parents and ship every damn quarters. 1:18:17.200 --> 1:18:21.439 And I know that, I know that publishing checks are 1:18:21.840 --> 1:18:25.439 really a three time a year thing, right, kind. 1:18:25.280 --> 1:18:27.080 Of can't imagine that he's got any money? 1:18:27.880 --> 1:18:30.599 No, well, definitely not because I initially thought, like, Okay, 1:18:30.600 --> 1:18:33.000 well when he gets arrested a million dollars this one 1:18:33.040 --> 1:18:35.320 hundred thousand, yeah, I believe I can. Yeah, he can 1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:35.800 come it off. 1:18:36.280 --> 1:18:39.479 And I couldn't believe that she you know, yeah, I 1:18:39.640 --> 1:18:42.559 think I think it was the picture I saw when 1:18:42.680 --> 1:18:44.680 she was with him, and the when he went to McDonald's. 1:18:44.720 --> 1:18:47.640 That's first thing he did. She owns the McDonalds owns it. 1:18:47.840 --> 1:18:49.640 She just went to him. He went to the rock 1:18:49.680 --> 1:18:55.160 and roll McDonald's. He got out, he went to he 1:18:55.360 --> 1:19:00.160 he went it is he went. He went to the 1:19:00.240 --> 1:19:02.240 rock and roll McDonald's like it, presumably to get a. 1:19:02.280 --> 1:19:05.320 Macrib and what's the rock and roll McDonald's. 1:19:05.520 --> 1:19:08.840 That's the biggest McDonald's in Chicago. It's like it's like 1:19:09.000 --> 1:19:12.160 Wily World, like Chicago. It's like a club in there 1:19:12.200 --> 1:19:12.559 at night. 1:19:13.360 --> 1:19:15.519 Yeah, it's it's like a city block. 1:19:15.880 --> 1:19:20.240 It's the biggest McDonald's in the south Side, No like downtown, 1:19:20.920 --> 1:19:24.320 like off of Michigan Avenue. A few times. 1:19:24.640 --> 1:19:26.960 I just don't understand how these women continue to be 1:19:27.080 --> 1:19:27.719 in his web. 1:19:30.080 --> 1:19:34.719 I think much like it's much like much like Trump, 1:19:35.240 --> 1:19:38.519 much like your Trump waitress. R. Kelly came and talked 1:19:38.520 --> 1:19:41.680 to him. He like he was. He came, he I 1:19:41.840 --> 1:19:45.280 saw you, and now you know it was That's what 1:19:45.400 --> 1:19:46.519 it was offered. 1:19:46.920 --> 1:19:49.519 Doesn't that take us right back to this cancel culture. 1:19:50.000 --> 1:19:52.680 Look at these people who are rising, whether it's a 1:19:52.840 --> 1:19:56.320 Trump having his following on R Kelly, see someone hear them. 1:19:57.439 --> 1:19:59.360 Well, I don't know if I need to hear Trump 1:19:59.479 --> 1:20:03.559 or Kelly, but the supporters, the people support those two. 1:20:03.680 --> 1:20:05.439 But all those people out. 1:20:05.320 --> 1:20:06.880 There that want to be seen in her, that are 1:20:06.960 --> 1:20:08.479 the ones that are falling victim to. 1:20:09.120 --> 1:20:11.400 Oh that's falling, okay, gotcha, one's getting finished. 1:20:17.240 --> 1:20:17.439 Yeah. 1:20:17.479 --> 1:20:20.439 So yeah, so I don't know. I think he's I 1:20:20.479 --> 1:20:22.439 think he might actually see some time. I don't know. 1:20:22.760 --> 1:20:24.080 Did you watch fire Festival? 1:20:25.640 --> 1:20:26.160 I did that. 1:20:26.320 --> 1:20:26.840 It was great. 1:20:26.920 --> 1:20:28.919 Which which of the two? Because I watched the neat 1:20:29.720 --> 1:20:33.439 way better than yeah, the Netflix Netflix one. 1:20:33.560 --> 1:20:35.040 How did that happen? 1:20:35.560 --> 1:20:35.680 Yo? 1:20:35.880 --> 1:20:37.760 It was the was to me that is one of 1:20:37.800 --> 1:20:38.240 the most Yo. 1:20:38.320 --> 1:20:40.400 It's social media, and it's a story of just how 1:20:40.479 --> 1:20:43.439 in America you can sell any kind of bullshit as 1:20:43.479 --> 1:20:44.479 long as you package it right. 1:20:44.600 --> 1:20:47.479 Except all of the except for the main guy, all 1:20:47.600 --> 1:20:51.160 those people like how did they not say, like, this 1:20:51.280 --> 1:20:52.439 thing isn't gonna work. I'm out? 1:20:52.920 --> 1:20:56.760 I think it was what So my t was, yo, 1:20:56.960 --> 1:21:00.280 and the people who were early on I've been everything. 1:21:00.360 --> 1:21:02.920 It was kind of almost like to make a financial parallel, 1:21:02.960 --> 1:21:04.840 like the banking crisis, I think there are a lot 1:21:04.880 --> 1:21:07.519 of people or then the housing crisis. I think it 1:21:07.600 --> 1:21:09.360 was a lot of people that knew that ship wasn't 1:21:09.360 --> 1:21:12.160 gonna work, Like they saw what was coming, but they 1:21:12.240 --> 1:21:14.080 was like, Yo, this ship is gonna fall down, but 1:21:14.240 --> 1:21:15.840 if I can get what I can get out of 1:21:15.920 --> 1:21:17.760 it before, then fuck it. 1:21:17.880 --> 1:21:20.280 But they knew that ship wasn't gonna work. They saw 1:21:20.400 --> 1:21:22.679 hell Mary pass and just pray to god. Lynn Swan 1:21:22.960 --> 1:21:26.480 was at the end reference odel. 1:21:29.240 --> 1:21:29.920 With one hand. 1:21:30.120 --> 1:21:32.560 They had no because the thing is when Homemie, the 1:21:32.680 --> 1:21:34.240 key part to me was when your man was in 1:21:34.280 --> 1:21:42.200 the heavy not not the dick sucking water dude, you 1:21:42.439 --> 1:21:45.320 see it. I saw the planner dude when he was 1:21:45.439 --> 1:21:49.120 like most festivals take like a year, he was like 1:21:49.240 --> 1:21:51.639 most like if you know, they take a year, he said, 1:21:51.680 --> 1:21:54.280 when they told me I had six weeks to feed 1:21:54.640 --> 1:21:57.320 and do all this ship, dude, you knew this ship. 1:21:57.320 --> 1:21:58.759 It was goddamn g Think. 1:21:58.640 --> 1:22:01.280 About all those vendors there still never got paid. 1:22:01.720 --> 1:22:04.120 Yeah, the lady did get up. They raised the uh 1:22:05.280 --> 1:22:07.760 for the main woman that lost like fifty thousand bucks, 1:22:07.880 --> 1:22:09.280 they uh, what do you call it? 1:22:09.400 --> 1:22:10.439 A go fundme go? 1:22:10.680 --> 1:22:11.760 Yeah, they go funded her. 1:22:12.400 --> 1:22:13.920 But why did we have to pay for that? 1:22:14.080 --> 1:22:15.599 Why didn't what's his name? 1:22:15.880 --> 1:22:16.160 Jerry? 1:22:16.720 --> 1:22:17.320 Fuck Jerry? 1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:19.160 Who still make it breaking in money? 1:22:19.439 --> 1:22:19.639 Yeah? 1:22:19.680 --> 1:22:23.559 Because because then so was coming from it became fu Jerry. 1:22:23.680 --> 1:22:26.200 That was like the new hashtag. It became fuck fuck Jerry. 1:22:26.680 --> 1:22:28.680 And I think I think they took a little hit. 1:22:29.000 --> 1:22:30.360 Said hey, I bring that John back though he said 1:22:30.360 --> 1:22:33.360 that day and after fifty. 1:22:33.160 --> 1:22:37.680 Cent gonna buy up all the tickets. Soty when he 1:22:37.760 --> 1:22:40.200 come out that's not fraud. That's not fraud. 1:22:40.680 --> 1:22:41.040 It was like. 1:22:43.439 --> 1:22:45.920 That was how does Jo Rul come out of it? 1:22:46.200 --> 1:22:46.599 Scared? 1:22:48.360 --> 1:22:51.599 Because because miss the nineties? I think, I'm sorry, he's 1:22:51.640 --> 1:22:54.320 not a nineties rapper, he's an arts rapper. I don't know. 1:22:54.360 --> 1:22:56.479 I think the documentary kind of painted him to be 1:22:56.600 --> 1:22:58.519 a kind of a victim of the whole situation too, 1:22:58.680 --> 1:23:00.920 where they just kind of used his his image to 1:23:01.640 --> 1:23:02.519 pull off this festival. 1:23:02.680 --> 1:23:03.960 I mean, it's not that he's not. 1:23:04.120 --> 1:23:05.280 I agree, he's not, like. 1:23:05.400 --> 1:23:07.599 You know, completely blame free because he should have done 1:23:07.600 --> 1:23:08.320 his due diligence. 1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:11.439 But that's it, Like, I agree, like we over use 1:23:11.520 --> 1:23:14.280 this word victim. A victim is somebody who's walking down 1:23:14.320 --> 1:23:18.560 a street who gets attacked in a gang initiation. A 1:23:18.720 --> 1:23:22.679 victim is not somebody who closes his eyes and closes 1:23:22.720 --> 1:23:27.880 his ears and lifts his champagne. Last to that point, 1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:29.920 like jar U looks at himself like I was a 1:23:30.000 --> 1:23:30.960 victim here, No, come on. 1:23:31.080 --> 1:23:35.760 Now, I believe again. I love doing the Ray Croc 1:23:35.920 --> 1:23:40.400 versus Ronald McDonald thing. I think he was just Ronald 1:23:40.479 --> 1:23:43.120 McDonald really not knowing what Ray Croc was up to 1:23:43.439 --> 1:23:46.000 behind him. And you don't agree with. 1:23:46.040 --> 1:23:46.320 Me, he's there. 1:23:46.479 --> 1:23:48.400 No, I think he could have given some of his 1:23:48.560 --> 1:23:50.840 money to that woman that owned that bar. 1:23:52.320 --> 1:23:53.519 I don't think he has money. 1:23:54.600 --> 1:23:57.000 What you're saying he did two years in jail for 1:23:57.080 --> 1:23:57.799 tax evasions. 1:23:57.840 --> 1:23:58.400 Oh that's right. 1:24:00.280 --> 1:24:02.400 And I'm sure any money that he quote unquote earned, 1:24:02.600 --> 1:24:03.759 I'm sure got he probably. 1:24:04.040 --> 1:24:05.280 Yeah, you're right, you're right. 1:24:05.760 --> 1:24:07.160 Oh yeah, you know. 1:24:08.360 --> 1:24:09.640 Should we haven't won the show one that? 1:24:09.800 --> 1:24:09.960 Yes? 1:24:10.479 --> 1:24:15.400 No, I love what's one? 1:24:15.479 --> 1:24:18.519 What were talking about either one of them? Like the stories? 1:24:18.560 --> 1:24:19.000 Good story? 1:24:19.000 --> 1:24:22.439 I like good story the nigga. Look, I was not 1:24:22.680 --> 1:24:24.720 a murdering fan listen, like I mean, I. 1:24:26.400 --> 1:24:29.360 Respect was about the time you guys signed Vanessa Carlton. Yeah, 1:24:30.720 --> 1:24:32.280 what happened with that Vita album? 1:24:32.720 --> 1:24:34.719 Like yeah, I just wasn't. I don't know. I wasn't 1:24:34.800 --> 1:24:36.720 a fan like that. I respect the movement. They had hits. 1:24:36.760 --> 1:24:39.519 I can't knocket, but I never thought none of that. 1:24:39.600 --> 1:24:40.000 She was hot. 1:24:40.040 --> 1:24:47.160 I didn't need to start this story anyway. Can we 1:24:47.200 --> 1:24:48.960 ask fun the m SMBC questions? I've been waiting. I 1:24:49.040 --> 1:24:52.679 just want to Yeah, okay, because we were talking about 1:24:52.680 --> 1:24:52.960 this earlier. 1:24:53.439 --> 1:24:55.320 Wanted to no no good. 1:24:55.640 --> 1:24:58.760 First of all, the aspect of having two shows on 1:24:58.920 --> 1:25:00.920 M S, N b C. Can we talk about that 1:25:01.000 --> 1:25:03.600 on the daily And how the fuck you do that 1:25:03.680 --> 1:25:05.760 with being somebody's wife and three people's mom? 1:25:06.760 --> 1:25:09.000 We never got to that was literally my first question, 1:25:09.160 --> 1:25:11.840 and we this is this has been a rabbit hole. 1:25:11.960 --> 1:25:12.360 You're right. 1:25:12.640 --> 1:25:16.719 All I wanted to say was, in addition to having 1:25:16.840 --> 1:25:20.800 to deal with pundits all day, you still have to 1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:22.840 be a mom and a wife. 1:25:23.680 --> 1:25:25.680 How do you balance it? Like I could get to 1:25:26.200 --> 1:25:26.799 don Okay. 1:25:26.680 --> 1:25:29.640 Here's the thing, but anyone like and all of us, 1:25:29.840 --> 1:25:32.519 none of us were ever balanced, right, People who are 1:25:32.920 --> 1:25:36.360 grinders and overachievers have never like achieved something and. 1:25:36.400 --> 1:25:39.200 Been like, whoof you know? I'm all set and I 1:25:39.320 --> 1:25:42.599 think that, uh, these are blessings, right. 1:25:42.720 --> 1:25:46.320 I'm so lucky to have this moment, to have this time, 1:25:46.479 --> 1:25:48.439 to be a news, to have this opportunity, to be 1:25:48.520 --> 1:25:50.800 married to somebody who hasn't kicked me out, and to 1:25:50.880 --> 1:25:53.439 have three kids who are all standing and tying their 1:25:53.479 --> 1:25:54.400 shoes and all work it out. 1:25:54.520 --> 1:25:55.439 Can I ask you a question? 1:25:55.760 --> 1:25:55.960 Yes? 1:25:56.320 --> 1:26:04.719 Okay, So, so if a certain unnamed network, sugar network 1:26:04.880 --> 1:26:13.640 starts with the F a certain unspeakable network comes to 1:26:13.760 --> 1:26:18.439 you with the bag No, but you can still be yourself. 1:26:20.120 --> 1:26:25.639 How could you do this? Wat But listen, listen, Okay, 1:26:25.880 --> 1:26:31.320 now correct me if I'm wrong. There is Murdoch's son's 1:26:31.479 --> 1:26:36.840 going to take over away because of their political because 1:26:36.840 --> 1:26:37.240 of their. 1:26:37.560 --> 1:26:38.720 Mur runs Fox News. 1:26:41.080 --> 1:26:44.960 Okay, I'm I was hearing through the cheese line that 1:26:46.280 --> 1:26:51.000 Murdoch's sons weren't as extreme as you know, the Roger l. 1:26:54.120 --> 1:26:55.680 Sky were trying. 1:26:55.960 --> 1:26:58.400 They were trying to dilute it a little bit. 1:26:58.560 --> 1:27:00.880 And then when they were trying to buy Sky, what 1:27:00.960 --> 1:27:03.800 they were trying to do is not have the huge 1:27:03.840 --> 1:27:06.880 sexual harassment issues, right, they didn't want to have. They 1:27:06.920 --> 1:27:09.240 weren't changing anything inside the company, but they didn't want 1:27:09.280 --> 1:27:13.320 to have massive sexual harassment headlines. 1:27:13.640 --> 1:27:15.240 That was going to block that deal well. 1:27:15.439 --> 1:27:18.320 But Sky also said like, we would never associate ourselves 1:27:18.360 --> 1:27:20.560 with you because everyone thinks you're a joke. And it 1:27:20.680 --> 1:27:23.439 almost seemed like they said, well, we're what what do 1:27:23.560 --> 1:27:25.600 we have to do to have a real conversation. 1:27:26.000 --> 1:27:28.200 There's no reason for them to change what they make, 1:27:29.160 --> 1:27:31.000 and we're talking obviously about Fox News, right. 1:27:31.280 --> 1:27:32.200 Fox News has. 1:27:32.200 --> 1:27:35.559 No reason to change what they make because what they may, 1:27:35.640 --> 1:27:41.240 for me is extraordinarily successful for the people who watch it, right, 1:27:41.320 --> 1:27:43.880 there are the many people who watch it, you know, 1:27:44.000 --> 1:27:46.200 wear it like a badge of honor. Now they talk 1:27:46.240 --> 1:27:48.519 about other going to have to change to start to 1:27:48.600 --> 1:27:52.320 attract a younger demographic, because you know, they're the go 1:27:52.560 --> 1:27:55.559 to for that, you know, over the age of fifty, 1:27:55.720 --> 1:27:57.920 white male demographic, many of whom watch it. 1:27:58.200 --> 1:27:59.799 I just want to see a pair of calves. 1:27:59.800 --> 1:28:04.519 And more than that though, listen, I mean they they 1:28:04.800 --> 1:28:06.599 haven't skipped a beat in their success. 1:28:06.720 --> 1:28:09.880 Lots of people are watching Kennedy. Yeah, she's on them 1:28:09.920 --> 1:28:11.920 every morning, she is in the afternoon. 1:28:12.240 --> 1:28:14.120 MTV, KEM, Fox News. 1:28:14.560 --> 1:28:18.720 She's quite conservative, a little bit more of a libertarian 1:28:18.840 --> 1:28:20.880 than a than a conservative conservative. 1:28:20.920 --> 1:28:22.240 You know, she's a small government. 1:28:23.320 --> 1:28:26.080 I'd never watched Fox News unless I'm trapped in an airport. 1:28:26.600 --> 1:28:29.760 They're they're great at what they make. And now if 1:28:29.800 --> 1:28:31.720 you're asking me if they if they walked in and said, 1:28:31.760 --> 1:28:33.320 I'd like to give you a pile of money and 1:28:33.439 --> 1:28:36.240 you could still make your thing, I don't think it 1:28:36.280 --> 1:28:39.439 would be a I don't see that happening because what 1:28:39.600 --> 1:28:42.720 I have to say wouldn't sell to their audience. And 1:28:42.800 --> 1:28:46.480 now I don't necessarily have what you would call traditional, 1:28:46.600 --> 1:28:49.840 only progressive or only liberal views to me, like. 1:28:49.920 --> 1:28:51.160 Would you ask the right question? 1:28:51.320 --> 1:28:53.879 But that's it, Like I'm just myself. 1:28:54.040 --> 1:28:56.479 I lean into I want to live the best life 1:28:56.520 --> 1:28:58.320 for my family, and I want my neighbors and my 1:28:58.439 --> 1:29:01.760 community to live their best. But that might mean I 1:29:01.840 --> 1:29:04.559 don't always align myself, you know, like let me make 1:29:04.600 --> 1:29:09.320 it easier to me. The most brutal place isn't cable news. 1:29:09.800 --> 1:29:10.679 It's social media. 1:29:11.160 --> 1:29:13.960 Because social media you don't ever get to actually speak 1:29:14.000 --> 1:29:16.960 your mind and be yourself. It's like performance art and 1:29:17.080 --> 1:29:20.320 the moment you're categorized as something you have to fit 1:29:20.439 --> 1:29:22.519 into this or suddenly I didn't know you were this, 1:29:23.160 --> 1:29:25.400 I leave you now, and you know, there's a really 1:29:25.479 --> 1:29:27.200 beautiful I wish I knew it. Off the top of 1:29:27.240 --> 1:29:29.920 my had Dave Chappelle quote that he gave a couple 1:29:30.000 --> 1:29:32.439 months ago where he said, when did the world get 1:29:32.479 --> 1:29:35.840 this messed up? Where everyone in your house you had 1:29:35.880 --> 1:29:40.160 to agree with? You only talk to people who were 1:29:40.200 --> 1:29:43.960 on the same side of everything, And he said, disagreement, 1:29:44.439 --> 1:29:46.360 even with the people closest to you, is what makes 1:29:46.439 --> 1:29:49.479 us great. This is when we lose heart and humor 1:29:49.560 --> 1:29:53.880 and we stop getting smarter and so there are people 1:29:53.920 --> 1:29:56.600 who are super liberal who don't like what I have 1:29:56.720 --> 1:29:59.120 to say. Unfortunately for them, they got no other network 1:29:59.160 --> 1:29:59.519 to go to. 1:30:00.080 --> 1:30:02.439 You say that they don't have more. Nicole Wallace's on 1:30:02.600 --> 1:30:04.479 Fox because I just gotta say, I love the way 1:30:04.560 --> 1:30:07.160 she has evolved as a Republican in her way of 1:30:07.240 --> 1:30:09.080 thought now that she's a Democrat. Now I don't think so, 1:30:09.200 --> 1:30:11.760 but just in her sense, and I feel like that 1:30:11.960 --> 1:30:14.040 kind of voice needs to be more president. 1:30:14.400 --> 1:30:18.040 Most people don't label themselves I'm a Republican, I'm a Democrat. 1:30:18.240 --> 1:30:20.200 We're all the same. We're all just trying to get 1:30:20.320 --> 1:30:20.639 She did. 1:30:20.600 --> 1:30:22.479 Because she was a ripe. I mean that was her 1:30:22.520 --> 1:30:23.120 correct job. 1:30:23.280 --> 1:30:25.439 But for most people out there, we're all just trying 1:30:25.439 --> 1:30:27.840 to live our best lives, get to our highest self, 1:30:28.200 --> 1:30:31.040 and the more we can focus on that and less 1:30:31.120 --> 1:30:33.680 on politics. Listen, if you were a single mother in 1:30:33.760 --> 1:30:36.680 the South Side of Chicago, would you say I identify 1:30:36.800 --> 1:30:37.679 myself as actual? 1:30:37.760 --> 1:30:40.320 Why? No, I didn't know. I side myself is trying 1:30:40.320 --> 1:30:41.240 to make my God damn. 1:30:41.040 --> 1:30:43.680 Rent, but that's exactly it. 1:30:44.120 --> 1:30:49.120 The thing is, though, is that I'm fine with disagreements. 1:30:50.120 --> 1:30:54.439 If the person disagreeing with me, I respect them, not 1:30:54.560 --> 1:30:56.920 even I respect them if they come with actual. 1:30:56.720 --> 1:30:58.960 Fact, right Boom, you nailed it now. 1:30:59.120 --> 1:31:04.920 Okay from a musical standpoint, okay, a music fan could 1:31:05.000 --> 1:31:07.759 give me the prose of why slide in the Family Stones, 1:31:08.080 --> 1:31:12.000 there's a Ryte Coin on. It's such a monumentous, important 1:31:12.040 --> 1:31:16.479 moment and funk. But a person like me is kind 1:31:16.520 --> 1:31:19.640 of sad at that record because I feel guilty is 1:31:19.760 --> 1:31:22.400 celebrating the joy of someone who's. 1:31:23.720 --> 1:31:24.519 On heroin. 1:31:25.080 --> 1:31:30.519 I feel like it's watching a car accident. And I 1:31:30.640 --> 1:31:33.040 acknowledge it, you know, But I'm just saying that. I 1:31:33.120 --> 1:31:38.519 feel that both arguments are based in fact. However, a 1:31:38.720 --> 1:31:42.640 lot of the political arguments are just more about my 1:31:42.840 --> 1:31:46.560 side's winning. My side's winning, and I don't know, I 1:31:46.720 --> 1:31:51.599 just feel as though I believe I'm on the side 1:31:51.640 --> 1:31:53.680 of the truth. Like when I watch Rachel Maddow, I 1:31:53.760 --> 1:31:58.639 don't feel as though she's trying to, you know, put 1:31:58.680 --> 1:32:00.360 me on her gin. I don't believe he hasn't a 1:32:00.800 --> 1:32:02.240 actually that she's revealing. 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:05.160 Show you feel like you're at a college court. And 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:08.760 I didn't watch Rachel before I got into political news. 1:32:09.479 --> 1:32:11.560 I have to be perfectly honest. I don't have a 1:32:11.640 --> 1:32:14.920 great voting record in that it wasn't a priority in 1:32:15.040 --> 1:32:17.920 my life, and now that I see so many of 1:32:18.000 --> 1:32:21.080 our basic rights in question, I'm filled with guilt over 1:32:21.160 --> 1:32:24.599 that and even what I thought Rachel was. And then 1:32:24.640 --> 1:32:28.360 I started watching It's like watching a masterclass. I don't 1:32:28.400 --> 1:32:31.760 feel like there's a political agenda and where you're exactly right. 1:32:31.880 --> 1:32:36.320 Fox News will look at her and say elitist, homosexual, 1:32:36.720 --> 1:32:41.040 she's trying to social rights. But I feel that the basic, 1:32:41.520 --> 1:32:49.559 the basic gripe in not listening or even taking her 1:32:49.600 --> 1:32:52.360 words and filtering it because she's not this or she's 1:32:52.439 --> 1:32:55.560 not that. Well yeah, but you know, because then I 1:32:55.720 --> 1:33:00.600 just feel that most conservatives might feel that, well, you know, 1:33:00.760 --> 1:33:03.439 she can't be telling the truth because she's she's a gay. 1:33:03.920 --> 1:33:07.799 Then find and then that, and then then that goes into. 1:33:07.560 --> 1:33:11.880 A find a way to see those people and hear 1:33:11.960 --> 1:33:19.479 those people because people gay. Cable news ratings are up, 1:33:19.920 --> 1:33:23.000 But we have to break through the stereotype so people 1:33:23.080 --> 1:33:27.640 can actually hear you. And we have to stop attacking 1:33:27.720 --> 1:33:30.280 the president about his weight or his hair or is 1:33:30.320 --> 1:33:31.960 it like we don't have to go with all that 1:33:32.280 --> 1:33:37.599 he gives us. Correct, but I'm sing, we don't need 1:33:38.439 --> 1:33:42.040 to jump to conclusions about what we believe he's guilty 1:33:42.160 --> 1:33:44.360 of before we know it, because guess what, right now, 1:33:44.479 --> 1:33:47.240 at this moment, I'm sure he's given us something. Right, 1:33:48.120 --> 1:33:50.760 he's going to be somebody who's told I want to 1:33:50.760 --> 1:33:53.040 say the Washington Post has now added it to eight 1:33:53.160 --> 1:33:57.360 thousand lies. We can stick to covering those eight thousand lies. 1:33:57.880 --> 1:34:01.479 And we have to resist the temptation and of overkilled 1:34:01.960 --> 1:34:03.960 because guess what, we're all guilty of it. Whenever I 1:34:04.040 --> 1:34:08.280 get whenever Fox News, you know, at primetime, will do 1:34:08.360 --> 1:34:09.760 a segment at night mocking me. 1:34:11.000 --> 1:34:11.439 They do that. 1:34:12.320 --> 1:34:13.320 I don't watch Fox News. 1:34:13.800 --> 1:34:17.560 Here's the thing, when they do it, there's usually a 1:34:17.760 --> 1:34:20.200 little bit of fact in there. I got a little 1:34:20.280 --> 1:34:21.960 lazy that day I got over my skis. It was 1:34:22.000 --> 1:34:23.760 usually on a Thursday or a Friday because I didn't 1:34:23.760 --> 1:34:26.680 do my homework and I'm tired. So we are challenged 1:34:26.800 --> 1:34:30.920 right now. We must stick stick to the facts because 1:34:30.960 --> 1:34:33.120 the facts are on our side. But you make an 1:34:33.160 --> 1:34:37.799 amazing point around freedom of speech in that we support 1:34:37.920 --> 1:34:41.559 freedom of speech, but where we're conflicted is if people 1:34:41.720 --> 1:34:44.120 are just spewing propaganda and lies. 1:34:44.920 --> 1:34:46.600 That's where we don't want them to. 1:34:46.840 --> 1:34:49.840 But then it's but that that's but that's my next 1:34:49.920 --> 1:34:51.519 kind of thing, because you say, like we should hear 1:34:51.560 --> 1:34:52.040 these people. 1:34:52.560 --> 1:34:54.120 I really think it's some people we just don't need 1:34:54.160 --> 1:34:58.040 to hear if they're talking that bullshit like you know 1:34:58.200 --> 1:35:02.000 me Tommy old time. 1:35:02.160 --> 1:35:04.519 Oh yeah, like that, like when I saw like you 1:35:04.560 --> 1:35:05.360 don't give her any air? 1:35:05.479 --> 1:35:06.080 Ye don't you know what? 1:35:06.200 --> 1:35:06.920 We don't talk about her. 1:35:08.360 --> 1:35:12.040 It exists because we're talking about her. So you know what, 1:35:12.640 --> 1:35:13.240 let's just put that. 1:35:14.360 --> 1:35:14.920 We don't need to hear. 1:35:15.000 --> 1:35:17.360 Huh, what do you think? 1:35:18.240 --> 1:35:20.639 I want to know your opinion on Howard Schultz. 1:35:22.840 --> 1:35:29.479 I think he's an extraordinary businessman. I think, listen, he's 1:35:29.479 --> 1:35:33.040 an unbelievable success story. I think that coming off the 1:35:33.120 --> 1:35:38.240 last election and looking at at at politics historically, we 1:35:38.320 --> 1:35:41.400 have a two party system, and the two party system 1:35:41.479 --> 1:35:44.639 might stink, it might be unfair, but that's what we got. 1:35:45.640 --> 1:35:49.600 Mike Bloomberg has spent millions of dollars researching what it 1:35:49.640 --> 1:35:52.080 would look like to run as an independent. He's done 1:35:52.120 --> 1:35:55.040 the math and he goes it doesn't work. He didn't 1:35:55.080 --> 1:35:57.720 run last time because he knew that running was only 1:35:57.760 --> 1:36:01.240 going to help President Trump win again. The concern for 1:36:01.280 --> 1:36:03.360 Howard Schaltz, if he goes to run as an independent, 1:36:03.880 --> 1:36:07.760 is only going to advance President Trump. And I think 1:36:07.880 --> 1:36:11.400 it takes a whole lot of hootspot or brazenness to 1:36:11.600 --> 1:36:15.839 think that you can win outside the system. System stinks, 1:36:16.200 --> 1:36:18.439 but unfortunately you got to figure out how to win 1:36:18.520 --> 1:36:19.040 in the system. 1:36:19.120 --> 1:36:21.400 Wait, has he been forgiven outside of Starbucks? 1:36:21.680 --> 1:36:21.880 Yeah? 1:36:21.920 --> 1:36:25.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah he did. Common did some commercials and the. 1:36:27.560 --> 1:36:36.639 Bucks. You wouldn't take the call we can build. 1:36:38.080 --> 1:36:42.439 That's Microsoft, Microsoft, It's the same thing. It's Common, the 1:36:42.560 --> 1:36:43.679 same guy in every part. 1:36:43.800 --> 1:36:45.479 Yeah, missed that Zara joke. Though that was funny. 1:36:49.600 --> 1:36:53.800 You missed it. You have to wait for Okay, it's 1:36:53.880 --> 1:36:54.439 too true. 1:36:55.600 --> 1:36:57.680 Who makes you laugh at MSNBC? That's my question I 1:36:57.720 --> 1:36:58.120 wanted to ask. 1:36:58.120 --> 1:37:00.160 I'm gonna tell you who makes me laugh. It's a 1:37:00.200 --> 1:37:05.439 comedian right now? Do you guys know who Sebastian Menescalco is. Yes, 1:37:05.760 --> 1:37:07.040 I love you don't think he's funny? 1:37:07.160 --> 1:37:08.680 No, I don't. I'm not him. 1:37:09.320 --> 1:37:13.360 Yeah, so, I mean I like dirty comedians too, But 1:37:13.520 --> 1:37:17.200 to be a comedian and not go after people and 1:37:17.360 --> 1:37:20.720 not be dirty, that takes the talent. And I saw 1:37:20.800 --> 1:37:22.720 this guy for the first time like nine months ago, 1:37:22.800 --> 1:37:24.479 Jerry Seinfeld had a night with sort of all of 1:37:24.520 --> 1:37:25.400 his favorite comedians. 1:37:26.000 --> 1:37:27.799 I urge you look him up on YouTube. 1:37:27.840 --> 1:37:30.800 I think he is something else. But on MS, I 1:37:30.880 --> 1:37:32.600 got to tell you I really love working there, and 1:37:32.680 --> 1:37:34.720 I really love the people I work with. They work 1:37:34.840 --> 1:37:37.960 so hard, they are so smart. There's great to be around. 1:37:40.120 --> 1:37:41.840 I was just wondering if you guys ever really because 1:37:41.880 --> 1:37:44.480 in our minds we wait exactly. 1:37:46.000 --> 1:37:50.320 Where she sent to everybody drinks for Christmas. But there 1:37:50.360 --> 1:37:53.719 are moments where I'm going, I can't believe Andrew Mitchell 1:37:53.800 --> 1:37:57.400 knows me right, Like I can't believe that, And just within. 1:37:57.320 --> 1:38:00.840 All where he walks by Andrew. 1:38:00.640 --> 1:38:02.880 Mitchell whenever she's decided to me, and was like, I 1:38:02.920 --> 1:38:06.160 can't believe it, right, I mean across the board right 1:38:06.200 --> 1:38:08.760 and on the Savannah got three. I mean like I 1:38:08.960 --> 1:38:11.920 was in England for the Royal wedding and I'm walking 1:38:12.000 --> 1:38:14.400 down the street with Savannah and Hodah and people are 1:38:14.600 --> 1:38:17.919 losing their minds when they see Hodah. And the beautiful 1:38:17.960 --> 1:38:20.400 thing about that is she brings them joy. 1:38:21.280 --> 1:38:22.120 She's always smiling. 1:38:22.560 --> 1:38:24.160 She brings them joy, and. 1:38:24.280 --> 1:38:27.080 That is something like, yes, you're bringing people the news 1:38:27.160 --> 1:38:30.040 and really important stories. But you have a relationship with 1:38:30.120 --> 1:38:32.800 people at home, I mean my partner, Ali Belchi. I 1:38:32.880 --> 1:38:34.840 love them, Katie Sure, I love them all, Joe and me. 1:38:37.560 --> 1:38:39.360 How did you come to have two shows? Or is 1:38:39.400 --> 1:38:41.040 it just two hours? Do I say two hours? 1:38:41.240 --> 1:38:45.519 No, I have two shows. There came. I came to 1:38:45.640 --> 1:38:48.080 NBC and I was anchoring up my show on MSNBC, 1:38:48.200 --> 1:38:50.600 and I used to anchor the Today Show on Saturdays. 1:38:50.680 --> 1:38:52.800 But when you're a mom and you have three kids, 1:38:52.880 --> 1:38:56.240 you know, six day work week is something's got to get. 1:38:56.360 --> 1:38:59.720 I was going to say that I still feel as 1:38:59.760 --> 1:39:07.240 though there's rooms for like, there's more room at the 1:39:07.320 --> 1:39:09.639 top for you, not to jinx anything. 1:39:10.439 --> 1:39:11.479 But what is higher? 1:39:11.680 --> 1:39:16.000 Is the Today Show a better lateral move or for me? 1:39:16.520 --> 1:39:18.679 I can just say whether it's at NBC or anywhere, 1:39:19.200 --> 1:39:21.759 But is that how long term? I don't have dreams 1:39:21.840 --> 1:39:22.320 or long term? 1:39:22.479 --> 1:39:24.920 Wow? Talk about that's interesting in the moment. 1:39:25.200 --> 1:39:28.040 So I used to it, and it was, and all 1:39:28.120 --> 1:39:30.240 it did was give me stress and anxiety, and more 1:39:30.320 --> 1:39:33.280 than that, it put me in terrible positions that I 1:39:33.320 --> 1:39:37.599 would have bosses, that I would either have terrible bosses 1:39:37.680 --> 1:39:40.960 that treated me badly or a bad job with a 1:39:41.000 --> 1:39:43.160 great boss, and I'd say like, well, this is awful, 1:39:43.200 --> 1:39:44.760 but I just have to I just have to hang 1:39:44.960 --> 1:39:47.040 tight and then in a year it's all going to 1:39:47.080 --> 1:39:51.519 be better. And if you're living your life like business, 1:39:51.720 --> 1:39:54.280 but if you're living your life, if you're in a 1:39:54.680 --> 1:39:57.839 relationship or a family and a job like this blows 1:39:58.040 --> 1:40:01.240 so badly right now, but in a year it will 1:40:01.280 --> 1:40:01.719 be great. 1:40:02.720 --> 1:40:04.080 My little never just that. 1:40:04.320 --> 1:40:07.160 Just then the goalpost. Just keep moving and the like, 1:40:07.240 --> 1:40:09.760 there's only three things. You have no control of the weather, 1:40:10.120 --> 1:40:14.000 your health, and time and giving your time to something 1:40:14.040 --> 1:40:16.360 that you're like, no job do you love all the time? 1:40:16.479 --> 1:40:18.880 Working is a grind. Waking up early as a grind. 1:40:19.200 --> 1:40:21.439 But you've got to be doing something that. 1:40:22.000 --> 1:40:24.960 The people you like, or you're getting better or parts 1:40:24.960 --> 1:40:28.240 of it are exciting. And if it's not, that doesn't work. 1:40:28.320 --> 1:40:31.040 But as far as like what's my ultimate I didn't 1:40:31.040 --> 1:40:32.800 even eight years ago. I didn't know I was going 1:40:32.840 --> 1:40:35.400 to be in television. Two years ago, I had no 1:40:35.520 --> 1:40:39.240 idea I'd be covering politics. And here I am, you know, 1:40:39.840 --> 1:40:42.560 going to bed and waking up with Trump tweets. So 1:40:43.720 --> 1:40:45.360 if we can say I'm gonna try to go to 1:40:45.439 --> 1:40:49.200 bed happier than I was when I woke up, Like, 1:40:49.360 --> 1:40:50.080 that's it for me. 1:40:50.280 --> 1:40:53.040 Amen? Amen, that's been addiction right there? 1:40:53.200 --> 1:40:54.240 Is it like being a doctor? 1:40:54.400 --> 1:40:59.840 Like right now, if something catastrophic happens, this episode's coming 1:40:59.880 --> 1:41:05.759 on way later. So you know, if something catastrophic happens 1:41:05.960 --> 1:41:10.560 in the world of politics or you know, development, is 1:41:10.640 --> 1:41:12.840 it you have to rush to stop what you're doing 1:41:12.920 --> 1:41:15.000 In me yes. 1:41:15.800 --> 1:41:20.439 Okay, but oh absolutely right. And people are trying to 1:41:20.479 --> 1:41:24.040 gain their vacations and this and that. But I'm forty 1:41:24.080 --> 1:41:27.160 three years old and I have three kids, and in 1:41:27.320 --> 1:41:30.280 any job that you ever have, in that moment, either 1:41:30.400 --> 1:41:33.840 that massive deal at work or that massive show or 1:41:33.920 --> 1:41:37.320 the massive news thing, it feels like everything and then 1:41:37.439 --> 1:41:40.080 six months later you can't even remember that day. 1:41:40.240 --> 1:41:41.840 That is so true, like you can't. 1:41:41.880 --> 1:41:44.320 So it has living in this this time that we're 1:41:44.320 --> 1:41:45.639 in right now sort of ruined. 1:41:46.560 --> 1:41:49.200 No, but Donald Trump doesn't get to take my joy. 1:41:49.760 --> 1:41:52.679 He doesn't get to take my personal life or my family. 1:41:52.760 --> 1:41:54.000 And when I'm there, I'm going to give it one 1:41:54.080 --> 1:41:57.120 hundred percent. And if I can be there at breaking news, 1:41:57.400 --> 1:41:59.040 I will be. But if I can't. 1:41:59.200 --> 1:42:01.360 But they called you sometimes and you're like way in 1:42:01.439 --> 1:42:03.679 Jersey somewhere, They're like, uh, let's get Hollie. 1:42:05.080 --> 1:42:07.960 Sure, yes, these things happen, but I can't live my 1:42:08.080 --> 1:42:10.120 life like, oh my god, I wasn't there and they 1:42:10.160 --> 1:42:12.719 picked you know. You know there's this idea in TV 1:42:12.960 --> 1:42:15.200 like she was on maternity leave and when she was out, 1:42:15.240 --> 1:42:17.120 the girl who filled in was the best, and then 1:42:17.160 --> 1:42:18.519 her career was well. 1:42:18.560 --> 1:42:20.760 No, no, from a mortal standpoint, I just remeant from 1:42:20.800 --> 1:42:24.479 the logistics when breaking new do they send out like 1:42:25.240 --> 1:42:27.000 a massive text to see which one of the. 1:42:27.000 --> 1:42:29.639 Takes you already know where you are. Every every Friday, 1:42:29.840 --> 1:42:32.080 you have to tell them here's where I am this weekend. 1:42:32.600 --> 1:42:35.639 Wait, so can I ask is well? 1:42:35.680 --> 1:42:37.320 I was going to ask, you're planning and having a 1:42:37.360 --> 1:42:38.200 rendezvous with me? 1:42:41.280 --> 1:42:41.320 No? 1:42:41.400 --> 1:42:43.960 No, no, I just mean, like, well, in the case 1:42:44.000 --> 1:42:47.920 of Brian, who always seems to be there in suit 1:42:48.000 --> 1:42:50.840 and like when something happens or breaks, is he like 1:42:50.920 --> 1:42:53.240 in a holding area just waiting for something. 1:42:54.520 --> 1:42:58.040 So when there is like a big event or like 1:42:58.160 --> 1:43:01.280 a I mean that's Brian's jam, Like that's what Brian does. 1:43:01.600 --> 1:43:03.240 I mean listen, if he's away, he doesn't do it. 1:43:03.360 --> 1:43:06.560 But if like a massive but he always seems to 1:43:06.600 --> 1:43:08.120 be there when it's breaking news time. 1:43:08.640 --> 1:43:09.080 It's the time. 1:43:09.520 --> 1:43:11.519 Don't you ever go home? But his eleven o'clock. 1:43:11.600 --> 1:43:14.680 But he's our breaking news person, so you know, if 1:43:14.720 --> 1:43:17.519 there's an awful thing, God forbid of shooting, you know 1:43:17.680 --> 1:43:19.960 someone's gonna be there taking us through it. And then 1:43:20.000 --> 1:43:22.280 probably at the top of the hour once Brian gets there. 1:43:22.720 --> 1:43:24.360 Brian's the guy who's gonna take you through For that. 1:43:24.680 --> 1:43:26.280 I thought he had to come in in like twelve 1:43:26.280 --> 1:43:29.040 and afternoon just wait only he probably. 1:43:28.760 --> 1:43:31.160 Has a fat contract to be that breaking news guy. 1:43:31.280 --> 1:43:32.439 Like that was a big deal for him to have 1:43:32.520 --> 1:43:34.240 him in the first place. Oh yeah, I'm gonna call 1:43:34.280 --> 1:43:35.479 you because I'm paying you all these guys. 1:43:35.520 --> 1:43:37.799 Well, no, no, I wanted to know if he literally 1:43:37.960 --> 1:43:40.360 just chills there twelve hours a day waiting for something 1:43:40.439 --> 1:43:41.719 to break and it doesn't. 1:43:41.720 --> 1:43:42.800 Okay, well I'm gonna go home now. 1:43:42.840 --> 1:43:45.360 I was surprised to see you doing the last day 1:43:45.400 --> 1:43:46.840 of the Union. I was like, she gotta get up 1:43:46.880 --> 1:43:49.439 in the morning, and is she gonna wait for us? 1:43:50.120 --> 1:43:52.120 Do you sleep at the office Sometimes No, But I have. 1:43:52.160 --> 1:43:53.840 To tell you, like, there's some days where I'm like, 1:43:53.880 --> 1:43:56.439 because sometimes I do Brian Williams show at night, which 1:43:56.520 --> 1:43:59.559 is at eleven, and if I did have a shower 1:43:59.600 --> 1:44:02.200 in my off it would be better on those nights, 1:44:02.240 --> 1:44:04.080 because it's true that you know this from working late. 1:44:04.240 --> 1:44:06.200 The thing is you know this if you work late, 1:44:06.840 --> 1:44:07.759 you get home. 1:44:08.160 --> 1:44:10.840 Then you open your door, then you open the refrigerator, 1:44:11.240 --> 1:44:13.760 then you check the mail, then you turn the TV on, 1:44:13.840 --> 1:44:15.960 and it's two in the morning, as opposed to if 1:44:16.000 --> 1:44:18.200 you did TV at eleven o'clock at night, walked in 1:44:18.280 --> 1:44:20.640 your office, went to sleep, you might be asleep at 1:44:20.640 --> 1:44:22.800 twelve oh five, and I might be up early for work. 1:44:22.840 --> 1:44:25.400 But on nights like State of the Union, come on now. 1:44:25.320 --> 1:44:26.160 This is our super Bowl. 1:44:26.240 --> 1:44:27.000 This is what we do it for. 1:44:27.479 --> 1:44:29.639 Is you can't stay up late one night and wake 1:44:29.720 --> 1:44:32.880 up early one day. Then Laverne and Shirley called, you 1:44:32.880 --> 1:44:34.599 should be working at the bottle factory. 1:44:40.000 --> 1:44:43.840 I have a question, yes, so he was asking, I 1:44:43.920 --> 1:44:49.120 think ten minutes ago. Essentially, is uh, what's the what 1:44:49.280 --> 1:44:51.240 could be bigger or whatever? Or what would you want 1:44:51.880 --> 1:44:55.240 next or more than what you have now career wise, 1:44:55.280 --> 1:45:01.120 I guess, or show wise or whatever, And wouldn't it 1:45:01.240 --> 1:45:06.360 seems like you well, I guess my question is wouldn't 1:45:06.360 --> 1:45:08.680 the next step be to get into politics rather than 1:45:09.040 --> 1:45:09.559 you know too? 1:45:10.240 --> 1:45:12.439 I would never want to run for office. I think 1:45:12.520 --> 1:45:15.840 it's hard enough on my family that I chose to 1:45:15.960 --> 1:45:17.560 have a public life in the way that I do. 1:45:18.120 --> 1:45:21.800 My kids didn't choose this. I chose it. And what 1:45:22.000 --> 1:45:25.080 people go through who are running office, running for office 1:45:25.800 --> 1:45:29.280 is so brutal that I just wouldn't And. 1:45:29.320 --> 1:45:32.120 I hypothetically all that aside, like where do you have 1:45:32.200 --> 1:45:36.760 a where do you have a louder voice or more 1:45:37.320 --> 1:45:38.400 chance to affect change? 1:45:38.680 --> 1:45:41.160 Yeah, I think it's pretty good where I am right now. 1:45:41.520 --> 1:45:44.080 What I wish we could do, and I don't see 1:45:44.120 --> 1:45:50.960 it done enough, is actually cover thorny cultural issues because 1:45:50.960 --> 1:45:53.559 what I'm afraid of right now is we're not talking 1:45:53.600 --> 1:45:54.839 about a lot of hard topics. 1:45:55.120 --> 1:45:58.160 Well, yeahs won't repeat, especially the cable news. It's like 1:45:58.240 --> 1:45:59.400 a fifteen minute. 1:45:59.160 --> 1:46:00.720 But it's also arrow what we cover. 1:46:00.840 --> 1:46:04.680 But there's lots of topics that because we're accusing one 1:46:04.680 --> 1:46:08.080 another of being ignorant, or being closed minded, or being stupid, 1:46:08.680 --> 1:46:13.120 instead of continuing the conversation, we're getting silent. Me too 1:46:13.240 --> 1:46:16.760 is a really good example. So for me, covering me 1:46:16.880 --> 1:46:20.200 too is very complicated. I don't think it's black and white. 1:46:20.840 --> 1:46:24.400 And when you try, yes, but when you try to 1:46:24.880 --> 1:46:28.640 dig into that, you get shut down. And what it 1:46:28.800 --> 1:46:33.400 does is people who aren't necessarily stakeholders in that, like me, 1:46:34.160 --> 1:46:37.040 I find myself retreating and saying, you know what, I'm 1:46:37.080 --> 1:46:37.479 just not going to. 1:46:39.040 --> 1:46:40.840 And so like a year of a year. 1:46:40.720 --> 1:46:43.720 Ago, I was doing actually patau but in La the 1:46:43.800 --> 1:46:46.599 conference where Amir and I met, and I was doing 1:46:46.640 --> 1:46:50.240 a town hall about me too, and I tried to 1:46:50.320 --> 1:46:53.400 bring up the idea of you know, there's a spectrum 1:46:53.520 --> 1:46:55.519 and can we talk about forgiveness at all? 1:46:56.439 --> 1:46:56.920 And and. 1:46:59.640 --> 1:47:02.519 It was an know and one woman stood up and 1:47:02.640 --> 1:47:06.200 she said, absolutely not. I never want for all of 1:47:06.280 --> 1:47:08.160 the women in the world who have ever suffered from this, 1:47:08.360 --> 1:47:10.840 for this, I never want to talk about. I never 1:47:10.880 --> 1:47:12.679 want to hear from those guys. And so I said, okay, 1:47:12.960 --> 1:47:18.000 And another woman stood up and said, corporate America was 1:47:18.160 --> 1:47:23.880 built by a white supremacist patriarchy and until that's blown up, 1:47:24.280 --> 1:47:27.240 this conversation is moot. And I'm not saying that that 1:47:27.360 --> 1:47:30.080 woman is wrong, but what I am saying is that 1:47:30.280 --> 1:47:34.479 point is also what she's saying is somewhat pointless. Because 1:47:34.560 --> 1:47:39.080 right now, corporate America is run by white guys, more 1:47:39.120 --> 1:47:41.880 guys named John and David than women total. And don't 1:47:41.920 --> 1:47:44.880 get me started on African Americans. So unless you can 1:47:44.960 --> 1:47:48.320 find a way to have a constructive conversation, they're going 1:47:48.400 --> 1:47:50.320 to go uh huh uh huh, and they're going to 1:47:50.360 --> 1:47:50.960 walk out the room. 1:47:51.040 --> 1:47:56.080 But I think before we bring up forgiveness, which is 1:47:56.280 --> 1:48:02.200 a point that I see, we never talk about justice absolutely, 1:48:02.560 --> 1:48:07.439 and you know, and that's sort of like, Okay, I 1:48:07.560 --> 1:48:10.320 went months ago when I went to the oscars. 1:48:16.200 --> 1:48:19.680 For for people who have committed the most offensive of assaults. 1:48:20.120 --> 1:48:24.160 I mean forgiveness in terms of just cultural forgiveness. We're 1:48:24.200 --> 1:48:27.120 getting more mature. We're seeing people in a different. 1:48:26.920 --> 1:48:29.880 Way saying you're not allowed to grow, like you're not 1:48:30.000 --> 1:48:32.439 allowed to like we talk about the whole councel culture 1:48:32.439 --> 1:48:34.560 and everything. I mean, the thing about it is just 1:48:34.640 --> 1:48:38.200 that if you're if you see people, if you commit 1:48:38.280 --> 1:48:40.920 any kind of transgression or whatever, and you see that 1:48:41.000 --> 1:48:44.120 you're never gonna be forgiven, then you have no impetus 1:48:44.200 --> 1:48:46.120 to change, Like you know what I'm saying. If you 1:48:46.240 --> 1:48:47.840 see it's like, well, you know what, y'all ain't gonna 1:48:47.840 --> 1:48:50.160 fulp me no way, So fuck it. I'm gonna keep 1:48:50.479 --> 1:48:53.320 doing whatever the fuck I'm doing. Like there's no there's 1:48:54.000 --> 1:48:55.880 you don't ever give that point in that person for. 1:48:55.920 --> 1:48:59.840 A person like Russell Simmons, whom I've definitely seen the 1:49:00.080 --> 1:49:05.479 evolution of deaf jam eighties Russell Simmons versus yoga Russell, 1:49:05.680 --> 1:49:06.680 Yoga Russell. 1:49:06.479 --> 1:49:13.640 And why he hadn't but go ahead, I'm sorry, but 1:49:13.760 --> 1:49:16.320 the world has changed from the eighties and the nineties 1:49:16.400 --> 1:49:17.000 and the early. 1:49:17.160 --> 1:49:18.439 And it's a weird thing that we have to learn. 1:49:18.479 --> 1:49:18.599 Right. 1:49:18.600 --> 1:49:20.280 We were talking about this on our group text because 1:49:20.360 --> 1:49:21.760 we were I mean, I hate to bring it up, 1:49:21.760 --> 1:49:24.080 but we were talking about a controversial story where a 1:49:24.200 --> 1:49:27.519 guy is being accused of being inappropriate with women, as 1:49:27.600 --> 1:49:29.479 in like going on a date and just pulling his 1:49:29.720 --> 1:49:35.479 penis out right, and so talking about the levels of okay, yeah, yeah, 1:49:35.920 --> 1:49:38.800 the levels of how should this guy be, how should 1:49:38.800 --> 1:49:40.240 he be taking care of even though this may have 1:49:40.240 --> 1:49:42.320 happened twenty years ago, even though you could have walked away, 1:49:42.360 --> 1:49:44.040 even though you could have laughed and been like I'm out, 1:49:44.120 --> 1:49:47.360 Like now women are like I'm calling for justice. This 1:49:47.520 --> 1:49:47.960 is best. 1:49:48.080 --> 1:49:49.120 What does that look like? 1:49:49.200 --> 1:49:51.640 What is that just like right, yeah, because I'm like, 1:49:51.840 --> 1:49:52.960 you could have just along the way. 1:49:53.920 --> 1:49:56.840 I mean, I remember when a zis I'm sorry when 1:49:56.880 --> 1:50:00.360 his story came out, and the woman I'm like, yeah, hey, 1:50:00.800 --> 1:50:03.160 that sounds like a bad hookup. And I'm not saying 1:50:03.840 --> 1:50:07.120 she didn't have a bad experience. But last I checked 1:50:07.160 --> 1:50:09.880 the premise of Sex in the City, which was I 1:50:09.920 --> 1:50:12.640 don't know, the most successful show of its time was 1:50:12.760 --> 1:50:14.840 kind of based on four girls hooking up with rich 1:50:14.880 --> 1:50:15.960 guys in New York City. 1:50:16.120 --> 1:50:17.360 Ooh, it's I'm broken. 1:50:20.080 --> 1:50:23.920 And so it's just a complicated thing, and you want 1:50:24.000 --> 1:50:27.639 to show sympathy and empathy for anyone who feels wronged, 1:50:28.160 --> 1:50:32.479 but you also have to realize, especially sexual experiences, something 1:50:32.520 --> 1:50:34.519 could happen between the two of us, and when we 1:50:34.680 --> 1:50:36.960 walk away, what you thought happened to what I thought 1:50:37.040 --> 1:50:40.360 happened are two different day and so no one has 1:50:40.479 --> 1:50:43.479 clearly articulated with the new rules of engagement and the 1:50:43.560 --> 1:50:44.320 rules of the road. 1:50:44.360 --> 1:50:44.479 Aar. 1:50:45.320 --> 1:50:50.040 And when I say intimacy, I don't mean sex, but intimacy, 1:50:51.000 --> 1:50:55.479 especially among colleagues, is at least for me, what has 1:50:55.560 --> 1:50:59.400 helped me like be successful in my career. Emir and 1:50:59.479 --> 1:51:03.400 I are friends. Right, we're both colleagues at MSNBC or 1:51:03.400 --> 1:51:05.560 at NBC, but we've never worked together. But when I 1:51:05.640 --> 1:51:08.120 met him, I connected with him, and I cared him. 1:51:08.200 --> 1:51:09.519 I cared about him as a person. 1:51:09.640 --> 1:51:15.680 You didn't even know his name, you know what. 1:51:15.720 --> 1:51:17.920 I was dragging about it, and you hugged him. Which 1:51:17.920 --> 1:51:19.719 now it's like, I get worried about hugging people. 1:51:19.720 --> 1:51:21.440 But if we get to a place. 1:51:21.200 --> 1:51:24.040 Where we can't even show compassion or show any kind of. 1:51:25.080 --> 1:51:28.120 Is I mean, if you worked in the music industry, 1:51:28.120 --> 1:51:30.680 if you worked an advert in a creative industry, you 1:51:30.840 --> 1:51:32.600 have to care about people. 1:51:33.000 --> 1:51:35.080 Because you're working with these motherfuckers all the time. Like 1:51:35.200 --> 1:51:36.920 it's sometimes you might see these people more than you 1:51:36.960 --> 1:51:38.599 see your damn family, you know what I mean. 1:51:38.680 --> 1:51:40.320 It's yeah, it's yeah, it's. 1:51:40.320 --> 1:51:42.560 Wild we establish And I think that's the that's the 1:51:42.600 --> 1:51:45.120 whole thing about right now in this time with all 1:51:45.160 --> 1:51:48.800 these raised conversations and all of these conversies meet too, 1:51:48.880 --> 1:51:52.240 conversations like we're re establishing ourselves and the rules, and 1:51:52.479 --> 1:51:54.240 we're also acknowledging of what we didn't know. 1:51:54.800 --> 1:51:56.400 Yeah, and I think you have to give people the 1:51:56.479 --> 1:51:58.360 space for that, like, because it's like even with the 1:51:58.439 --> 1:52:00.880 whole with the whole black face thing, like when they 1:52:00.960 --> 1:52:03.679 going through these white college yearbooks and finding all. 1:52:03.560 --> 1:52:04.880 These white people doing shit. 1:52:05.360 --> 1:52:07.479 It's like, dude, I mean again, for me, it's different 1:52:07.520 --> 1:52:10.680 as a Southerner because I went to these schools. I 1:52:10.760 --> 1:52:12.840 knew all them good old boys, like they was listening 1:52:12.880 --> 1:52:15.519 to Wu Tang, but they had god damn Confederate flags 1:52:15.560 --> 1:52:17.280 on they trust, but they should. 1:52:17.000 --> 1:52:19.120 Be ched in some form of fashion, because not for nothing, 1:52:19.160 --> 1:52:21.400 that's that's the eighties, Not for nothing. Open a book, Like, 1:52:21.439 --> 1:52:23.479 I'm tired of white people having excuses for not knowing 1:52:23.520 --> 1:52:26.320 Black culture. That's excuses. I'm like, this is a part 1:52:26.360 --> 1:52:28.720 of a black face was a part of American. 1:52:29.360 --> 1:52:31.479 Culture, but it wasn't. I mean, but you gotta think though, 1:52:31.520 --> 1:52:34.120 it's a thing like a society. To me, society is 1:52:34.160 --> 1:52:36.759 nothing more than just a contract. Right, It's just a contract, 1:52:36.800 --> 1:52:41.479 and like it's an ever evolving, ever renegotiatable contract. So 1:52:42.479 --> 1:52:44.800 one day it's like, Okay, this was cool, but then 1:52:44.840 --> 1:52:46.400 all of a sudden you wake up and it's like, no, 1:52:46.800 --> 1:52:47.720 this ain't cool no more. 1:52:47.760 --> 1:52:50.080 I just know that people don't be offending Jewish people 1:52:50.120 --> 1:52:51.680 as much like they know the rules. People know the 1:52:51.760 --> 1:52:55.200 rules about certain cultures, they will not what but this 1:52:55.360 --> 1:52:58.400 happens much faster for other cultures. For us, we got 1:52:58.520 --> 1:53:01.439 to be understanding to understand it. They don't know and 1:53:01.600 --> 1:53:02.479 blah blah blahlah blah. 1:53:02.680 --> 1:53:05.160 I'm not saying we understand. They don't want They don't 1:53:05.160 --> 1:53:05.439 want to know. 1:53:07.080 --> 1:53:07.720 People don't want it. 1:53:07.760 --> 1:53:10.400 There are tons of things that I'm not sure why 1:53:10.880 --> 1:53:13.560 you shouldn't do it, and this is an opportunity to 1:53:13.680 --> 1:53:15.960 explain and find out why. 1:53:16.800 --> 1:53:21.880 I've had to explain to many people about minstrelsy and 1:53:22.200 --> 1:53:25.400 and that sort of and people that just didn't know 1:53:25.680 --> 1:53:26.519 about the history. 1:53:26.680 --> 1:53:29.599 They knew that it was wrong, but they didn't know why. 1:53:29.840 --> 1:53:31.840 And sometimes I feel like, you know, with some fight 1:53:31.880 --> 1:53:33.559 white folks, they can know why, but they're like, well 1:53:33.640 --> 1:53:36.040 that's that's no big deal to me, So I almost 1:53:36.080 --> 1:53:37.200 a big deal. I'm gonna just do it. 1:53:37.640 --> 1:53:39.920 But that's because I think a lot of white people, 1:53:40.400 --> 1:53:42.840 when you say white privilege, they're like, what do you 1:53:42.920 --> 1:53:45.799 mean white privilege? I don't have it so easy because 1:53:46.360 --> 1:53:50.599 we take for granted what we don't realize because they're saying, 1:53:50.760 --> 1:53:53.320 how could you say because the idea of white privilege like, 1:53:53.680 --> 1:53:56.280 I don't have a privileged life. I'm struggling. But when 1:53:56.280 --> 1:53:58.440 you actually put it into content. 1:53:58.320 --> 1:54:01.280 Cab, just stand outside real it, right. 1:54:03.920 --> 1:54:07.240 I was. I was recently, I was upstate skiing and 1:54:07.360 --> 1:54:09.000 there was a woman there talking and she goes, you know, 1:54:09.040 --> 1:54:11.040 people talk about white privilege all the time. I mean, 1:54:11.360 --> 1:54:13.880 I don't think it exists. And I said, have you 1:54:13.960 --> 1:54:16.280 looked at this mountain? Do you see any black people. 1:54:17.520 --> 1:54:18.360 That ain't serving you? 1:54:19.760 --> 1:54:20.840 You don't even know when we're missing. 1:54:22.760 --> 1:54:25.760 But because the idea, because for some people they think 1:54:26.439 --> 1:54:32.440 that they they conflate white privilege with white supremacy, and 1:54:32.560 --> 1:54:35.680 they're not the same thing. They're not, but those two 1:54:35.800 --> 1:54:37.000 things get conflated. 1:54:37.520 --> 1:54:39.920 Interesting, it's like to say white privilege is like to 1:54:40.000 --> 1:54:43.400 say it's not saying that it's easy to be white. 1:54:43.400 --> 1:54:44.960 I'm not saying that just because you're white, you're gonna 1:54:44.960 --> 1:54:45.880 have an easy life. 1:54:46.280 --> 1:54:49.560 That's not you. Yeah, right, everybody but. 1:54:51.160 --> 1:54:52.680 Easier, but you ain't gonna know it, so it's still 1:54:52.720 --> 1:54:53.280 gonna feel hard. 1:54:54.400 --> 1:54:56.560 But if you had to walk a day in my ship, 1:54:56.600 --> 1:54:59.360 you would jump off a fucking bridge. You ever see 1:54:59.360 --> 1:55:05.760 the Michael, Oh, yeah, that's the great I watched that 1:55:05.880 --> 1:55:06.960 ship one hundred times. 1:55:10.440 --> 1:55:13.520 So Todd Bridges a nine year old time bridge. Yeah, 1:55:13.520 --> 1:55:16.160 he's talking to Michael Landon. He said, he asked some question. 1:55:16.080 --> 1:55:17.800 From from from Little House on. 1:55:19.600 --> 1:55:20.920 Different yet he was. 1:55:20.920 --> 1:55:21.600 Like nine years old. 1:55:21.680 --> 1:55:25.080 Yeah, he asked Michael Landon, would you rather be what 1:55:25.240 --> 1:55:25.360 was it? 1:55:25.400 --> 1:55:29.080 Would you rather be black and live live to one 1:55:29.120 --> 1:55:31.800 hundred or be white and diet fifty? 1:55:32.800 --> 1:55:35.680 And then all of a sudden, Michael Landon the panning 1:55:36.360 --> 1:55:43.200 and the John Williams jaws like music and Michael Landon's 1:55:43.400 --> 1:55:45.880 dependsive look of pain on his face and the look 1:55:45.920 --> 1:55:48.880 of defeat on his face when he realizes, yeah, I'd 1:55:48.920 --> 1:55:52.000 still be I'd rather die at fifty and white, like 1:55:52.280 --> 1:55:54.640 just walk away. And for the record, Michael Landon died 1:55:54.640 --> 1:55:56.360 at the age of fifty four. Wow. 1:55:57.080 --> 1:55:58.800 And what was the rest of the joke? Who lived 1:55:58.840 --> 1:55:59.560 to be well? 1:55:59.640 --> 1:56:00.840 No, no, no, he just walked away. 1:56:01.000 --> 1:56:05.920 Basically, Michael Landon was basically saying, yes, I'd rather I'd 1:56:06.000 --> 1:56:10.360 still be white. Yeah, just like when Chris Rock said 1:56:10.920 --> 1:56:12.480 none of you would trade places with me? 1:56:12.880 --> 1:56:17.800 And I'm rich right, I mean, I don't want to 1:56:17.840 --> 1:56:20.240 defend anything unpopular right now. 1:56:22.440 --> 1:56:25.000 But the show is Little House on the Prairie, which 1:56:25.080 --> 1:56:31.600 is based in the Yes, seemed to be the lone 1:56:31.680 --> 1:56:34.000 liberal on the Prairie. 1:56:34.200 --> 1:56:38.200 You always did the right thing, though, Yeah, I have 1:56:38.240 --> 1:56:38.600 a question. 1:56:38.840 --> 1:56:41.280 Yes, So I hinted that the fact that I went 1:56:41.320 --> 1:56:43.960 to school for working in the news, working in television 1:56:44.000 --> 1:56:50.840 news earlier. What's what made me switch directions? Happened in 1:56:50.920 --> 1:56:52.720 my senior year, A little event that you might have 1:56:52.800 --> 1:56:54.720 heard heard of nine to eleven. 1:56:56.080 --> 1:56:56.640 That morning. 1:56:58.600 --> 1:57:01.480 You know, I I had to work first, go to 1:57:01.560 --> 1:57:03.400 work first, and then I had to go to class 1:57:04.720 --> 1:57:09.040 Ball State University in Muntsy, Indiana, and and basically like 1:57:09.240 --> 1:57:11.880 the whole department, like we just all came together and 1:57:12.080 --> 1:57:15.600 it was it was it was the class was the 1:57:15.720 --> 1:57:19.080 coverage of the news. And I'm just watching all this stuff, 1:57:19.080 --> 1:57:21.120 and I'm realizing, like if I go into this for 1:57:21.240 --> 1:57:23.920 the you know, as a career. You know, I've seen 1:57:23.960 --> 1:57:26.160 the Bud Dwyer suicide video in class. You know they 1:57:26.560 --> 1:57:31.520 damn yeah, they showed it in class. What Philly, Yeah, 1:57:31.640 --> 1:57:33.480 Bud Dwire he was he was like some he was 1:57:33.560 --> 1:57:34.360 caught up in some scheme. 1:57:34.400 --> 1:57:39.760 He was a corrupt UH councilman who strategically called a 1:57:40.200 --> 1:57:44.920 press conference in a in a Philadelphia judicial room. But 1:57:45.120 --> 1:57:47.720 he did it in from the judges position where there's 1:57:47.800 --> 1:57:51.800 like a protective barrier and then he pulls out a 1:57:51.880 --> 1:57:56.280 gun and then he uh killed himself live on television. 1:57:56.360 --> 1:57:57.160 We all saw it. 1:57:57.800 --> 1:58:02.200 So it was you know, your journalism ethics classes and all, 1:58:02.640 --> 1:58:05.760 and you know, yeah, I mean, because if I'm working 1:58:05.800 --> 1:58:11.640 in news, I'm gonna so you know, with watching nine 1:58:11.640 --> 1:58:14.520 to eleven happen, and you know, I'm realizing that I 1:58:14.920 --> 1:58:17.240 don't have time to process this as a human being. 1:58:17.600 --> 1:58:19.240 I have to get ready to get something on air. 1:58:19.560 --> 1:58:22.240 You know, this is you know, have you ever had 1:58:22.280 --> 1:58:25.320 a situation where you were had your emotions where your 1:58:25.320 --> 1:58:27.840 emotions were kind of running really high and you weren't sure. 1:58:28.360 --> 1:58:31.600 Yeah, I mean, first of all, it would be odd 1:58:31.680 --> 1:58:33.400 to find a day when I don't cry a little 1:58:33.400 --> 1:58:37.800 bit on TV, because I definitely do. I did actually 1:58:37.880 --> 1:58:39.760 last summer, and it wasn't a great night for me 1:58:39.920 --> 1:58:43.800 when we were in McCallen, Texas at the border. Was 1:58:43.840 --> 1:58:45.880 sort of when there was first news coverage of what 1:58:46.040 --> 1:58:50.200 was going on with child separation. And it's very rare 1:58:50.320 --> 1:58:52.960 for Rachel Maddout to cry. And I was going on 1:58:53.120 --> 1:58:56.680 right after Rachel and it was in the last moments 1:58:56.720 --> 1:58:59.360 of her shows when she found out that there were 1:58:59.440 --> 1:59:03.560 what's called tender age detention centers for children who were 1:59:03.600 --> 1:59:07.520 separated who were under the age of three, and Rachel 1:59:07.640 --> 1:59:09.640 was on talk about it, and she started crying on air. 1:59:10.200 --> 1:59:12.800 And then when Rachel handed off to me, I was 1:59:13.160 --> 1:59:15.640 really crying on air, and I sort of looked at 1:59:15.640 --> 1:59:20.680 the camera because Evanka first started Ivanka Trump and first 1:59:20.760 --> 1:59:24.360 Lady Milania Trump always say, you know, Milania's whole thing is, 1:59:24.400 --> 1:59:27.000 you know, she's a devoted mother, And Evanka always says, 1:59:27.160 --> 1:59:30.200 I stand for the advancement of women and girls. And 1:59:30.280 --> 1:59:32.120 the thing is, when you have the privilege of saying 1:59:32.200 --> 1:59:35.080 I stand for something, that means you stood in the 1:59:35.200 --> 1:59:36.720 face of adversity. 1:59:36.280 --> 1:59:37.640 You stood up for something. 1:59:38.080 --> 1:59:41.920 And so I was so devastated by this idea of 1:59:42.080 --> 1:59:46.280 babies being taken from their mothers. Really you almost couldn't 1:59:46.280 --> 1:59:48.000 even understand what I was saying. I was crying so 1:59:48.120 --> 1:59:50.960 hard on air, and some people after were like, oh, 1:59:51.040 --> 1:59:52.680 that was real emotion and that was raw and that 1:59:52.800 --> 1:59:55.839 was great, but it really wasn't. And after the president 1:59:55.840 --> 1:59:57.880 of NBC's name is Andy Lack, who I worked for, 1:59:57.960 --> 2:00:01.480 it at Bloomberg too, gave me graded and he said, 2:00:01.960 --> 2:00:06.240 you can be real and you can be emotional on television, 2:00:06.600 --> 2:00:11.000 but it is your job to deliver this information. And 2:00:11.280 --> 2:00:13.920 the example he gave, he said, if someone died and 2:00:14.240 --> 2:00:19.120 and two of us performed eulogies the same script and 2:00:19.520 --> 2:00:23.120 I did it hyperventilating and crying with no control of 2:00:23.200 --> 2:00:26.000 my emotions, you'd walk away and be like, oh my god, 2:00:26.080 --> 2:00:30.760 Stephanie was devastated and she was crushed. Can if you 2:00:30.880 --> 2:00:34.520 gave the same eulogy, the same words, but you were controlled, 2:00:34.800 --> 2:00:37.120 You could be emotional but controlled and knew that it 2:00:37.240 --> 2:00:40.800 was your job to deliver that message. People would forever 2:00:41.240 --> 2:00:44.800 remember that message. So I think, to me, as a 2:00:44.920 --> 2:00:48.240 viewer or somebody who's in it, actually the best you 2:00:48.360 --> 2:00:51.960 can be is your real self. But you're not your 2:00:52.000 --> 2:00:55.800 real self sitting on a couch crying and screaming and wailing. 2:00:56.320 --> 2:00:58.760 You've got to be sort of the boss of the 2:00:58.840 --> 2:01:01.840 table and saying I'm here to deliver this to you 2:01:02.000 --> 2:01:04.280 in the best way I can. But something I think, 2:01:04.360 --> 2:01:07.040 and cable news has given us the opportunity to do it. 2:01:08.080 --> 2:01:11.120 Unlike what sort of traditional network news is a we 2:01:11.240 --> 2:01:14.040 have more time, but b it's edgier and we can 2:01:14.160 --> 2:01:17.240 be ourselves, and I don't mean like our opinionatedselves, but 2:01:17.680 --> 2:01:20.400 our real selves. And I can see a difference of 2:01:20.400 --> 2:01:22.400 people who sort of grew up, you know, in a 2:01:22.560 --> 2:01:26.400 very traditional journalistic kind of network news place where like 2:01:26.840 --> 2:01:28.600 never give yourself, never give. 2:01:28.480 --> 2:01:31.440 Emotion, I would not have I feel like that. 2:01:31.560 --> 2:01:34.600 I would not have gone into this business if I 2:01:34.640 --> 2:01:36.600 couldn't be my First of all, I went into it 2:01:36.680 --> 2:01:38.920 too late. I was thirty six years old, Like it 2:01:39.000 --> 2:01:41.720 was too late for me to be anything but me. 2:01:43.920 --> 2:01:47.920 And I think people want that people they don't want 2:01:47.960 --> 2:01:50.360 you to just give it. Here is the information. You 2:01:50.440 --> 2:01:54.120 could get the information from the internet. You can try 2:01:54.160 --> 2:01:55.720 to give it in the best way you can. 2:01:56.440 --> 2:01:58.200 We had to do radio on that day. It was 2:01:58.360 --> 2:02:01.200 hard to nine to eleven on radio at six pm 2:02:01.280 --> 2:02:01.640 that night. 2:02:02.960 --> 2:02:03.920 Not tasy, but it was. 2:02:04.120 --> 2:02:06.360 But you also feel like you're doing a service too 2:02:06.440 --> 2:02:08.400 for your friends because you're giving them the information that 2:02:08.440 --> 2:02:09.920 they need. And so the more you get in your 2:02:09.920 --> 2:02:13.200 head about that and getting your folksed to information, unless 2:02:13.200 --> 2:02:14.480 you get it into the feelings part. 2:02:14.640 --> 2:02:18.640 Covering shootings is horrible. Covering Parkland is horrible. Covering the 2:02:19.160 --> 2:02:21.320 Remember that shooting in Texas last year. That was in 2:02:21.400 --> 2:02:25.080 a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, a tiny little Baptist church, 2:02:25.560 --> 2:02:27.520 and a guy walked in and he shot everybody, you know, 2:02:28.120 --> 2:02:30.680 and they were facing the altar, so he shot him, No, 2:02:31.640 --> 2:02:34.040 shot him from behind. Those are horrible to cover. 2:02:35.680 --> 2:02:38.680 I couldn't do it. So I had to like, literally, really, 2:02:38.800 --> 2:02:41.880 do you really? Like it was my senior year, like 2:02:42.160 --> 2:02:42.600 like I had to. 2:02:42.840 --> 2:02:44.920 I had to finish out the major, but like nine 2:02:44.960 --> 2:02:47.040 eleven's like, I don't think I can do this, like 2:02:47.080 --> 2:02:49.720 because I just needed to process what had just happened, 2:02:50.520 --> 2:02:52.440 you know, like there was no way that like I 2:02:52.520 --> 2:02:53.840 wasn't trying to be an on air person, you know, 2:02:54.040 --> 2:02:56.280 I was either going to be behind behind the camera 2:02:56.400 --> 2:02:59.080 or an editing room somewhere. Editing room definitely would have 2:02:59.080 --> 2:03:01.480 been a problem because you getting all the unedited footage, 2:03:01.480 --> 2:03:04.280 You're seeing everything that's not going to you know, not 2:03:04.440 --> 2:03:06.360 going to make it the air. So I just, you know, 2:03:06.400 --> 2:03:08.360 I had to do some serious soul search and like 2:03:09.760 --> 2:03:11.080 I can't do this, So. 2:03:11.280 --> 2:03:13.720 Yeah, here you are. I think things have changed. I'm 2:03:13.760 --> 2:03:16.480 not doing like you know what I get. 2:03:16.920 --> 2:03:19.600 But I also even think the shows that I love 2:03:19.720 --> 2:03:23.720 to watch or listen to. I don't think have traditional roles. 2:03:23.800 --> 2:03:26.520 I don't think it's like you're the anchor, you're the 2:03:26.640 --> 2:03:30.240 I mean they're more Everybody involved is putting all the 2:03:30.320 --> 2:03:32.720 best ingredients they can think of in the pot, and 2:03:32.880 --> 2:03:36.000 hopefully everyone will rise with it. Right Like I think 2:03:36.080 --> 2:03:38.760 people were more famous, Like I think people on television 2:03:39.240 --> 2:03:42.920 ten years ago were more famous now. I think great 2:03:43.080 --> 2:03:46.960 content makes people famous because there used to only be 2:03:47.040 --> 2:03:49.520 a few platforms. Right Like when we were growing up, 2:03:49.880 --> 2:03:52.160 you could watch the Today Show, you could watch Good 2:03:52.160 --> 2:03:53.520 Morning America. You know what I mean? That was it. 2:03:53.720 --> 2:03:58.560 Now there are so many outlets. I think great things 2:03:58.760 --> 2:04:02.000 find their way overwhelming. Who is your professor? 2:04:03.120 --> 2:04:03.320 Wow? 2:04:03.760 --> 2:04:10.120 Yeah, just passed away last month factor January. Fun fact, 2:04:10.480 --> 2:04:13.840 when that Bud Dwier thing happened. Uh, that was the 2:04:13.920 --> 2:04:21.520 day that Prince Premier kiss on parad So. I literally 2:04:23.000 --> 2:04:26.800 whenever I hear that intro, I always think of Bud Dwire. 2:04:27.040 --> 2:04:31.200 I'm sorry like that that yeah, that that that image 2:04:31.280 --> 2:04:31.680 was kind of. 2:04:31.760 --> 2:04:33.080 No, no, no, it was. 2:04:33.640 --> 2:04:37.000 It happened coincidentally at the same time, like my parents, 2:04:37.080 --> 2:04:41.400 my parents and family were screaming, do not google Bud Dwyer. 2:04:43.360 --> 2:04:45.480 Don't do that to yourself. I don't know, maybe not. 2:04:46.280 --> 2:04:49.160 You shoul look up. You should have that Bible that 2:04:49.240 --> 2:04:49.879 I'm wondering. 2:04:49.640 --> 2:04:57.640 If it is on YouTube it is. Okay, So look, Stephanie, 2:04:57.680 --> 2:04:59.440 we're about to wrap up right now because I know 2:04:59.520 --> 2:05:01.200 you have to get up at zero clock in the morning. 2:05:01.800 --> 2:05:08.160 So technically only got one question out, so I don't 2:05:08.160 --> 2:05:09.880 even get to where did you where were you born? 2:05:09.960 --> 2:05:13.120 And all your child or whatever? Jersey, Well, yeah, I 2:05:13.200 --> 2:05:17.320 mean I asked, but anywaysy am Yeah. 2:05:17.920 --> 2:05:22.680 So my second question, what was the first record you 2:05:22.760 --> 2:05:23.480 ever purchased? 2:05:28.800 --> 2:05:33.480 The first record I can remember so vividly as a child. No, no, 2:05:33.560 --> 2:05:36.280 I'm gonna tell you so. The first record I can 2:05:36.880 --> 2:05:41.440 like when I close my eyes is the double soundtrack 2:05:41.520 --> 2:05:45.919 from Greece, the movie Wow. Being a little girl staring 2:05:46.120 --> 2:05:49.000 at the green record with all of the photographs. 2:05:49.040 --> 2:05:50.840 What part one? Right, I'll just make sure Grease won. 2:05:51.440 --> 2:05:54.440 Yeah, don't get me wrong, like Greece too. Nobody wants 2:05:54.440 --> 2:05:58.440 to admit that. But you know we're gonna score the 2:05:58.480 --> 2:05:59.160 bowling song. 2:06:00.000 --> 2:06:00.800 Okay, I'll give you. 2:06:02.480 --> 2:06:08.600 Yeah, We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna go 2:06:10.600 --> 2:06:13.000 and so not like right there you were gonna dump 2:06:13.040 --> 2:06:13.640 on Grease. 2:06:14.120 --> 2:06:14.640 All the words. 2:06:14.760 --> 2:06:17.760 It's true, it's just you know, it was the Grease 2:06:18.160 --> 2:06:21.920 double album. I can so vividly remember. 2:06:24.560 --> 2:06:26.080 Yeah, that just happened. 2:06:26.800 --> 2:06:32.080 You see, Greece is universal. 2:06:33.440 --> 2:06:37.880 About Greece. It's far dirtier than you remember. Because I 2:06:38.000 --> 2:06:43.520 have little kids, and then I'm like, I'm sorry, what 2:06:43.720 --> 2:06:44.120 the chicks? 2:06:44.360 --> 2:06:47.400 Who the what? Like, yes, I gotta go watch it again. 2:06:47.480 --> 2:06:48.520 I hate keep from Kiniki. 2:06:48.680 --> 2:06:53.160 Yes because my daughter's five Michael and I'm like, oh, 2:06:53.200 --> 2:06:57.440 come on, let's watch the dance scene. And I'm like, wow, Gregorio, 2:06:58.280 --> 2:06:58.640 you never. 2:06:58.760 --> 2:07:01.280 You ever tried watching Back to the Future post me to. 2:07:03.080 --> 2:07:08.360 Yo as well, you're the president from Back to the. 2:07:10.680 --> 2:07:13.600 All right, what was your first concert material? 2:07:13.680 --> 2:07:14.280 Girl Madonna? 2:07:14.920 --> 2:07:15.480 Not a bad one. 2:07:15.640 --> 2:07:16.520 Were the Beastie Boys? 2:07:16.560 --> 2:07:17.000 The Opener? 2:07:18.120 --> 2:07:18.760 I don't think so? 2:07:19.200 --> 2:07:20.040 Okay okay? 2:07:20.320 --> 2:07:21.720 And I went to a meet Loaft show at a 2:07:21.720 --> 2:07:22.520 community college. 2:07:23.200 --> 2:07:24.320 Wow? Really? Yeah? 2:07:24.400 --> 2:07:25.560 Somebody's parents took. 2:07:25.440 --> 2:07:27.840 Us y when I when I was seven years old, 2:07:28.840 --> 2:07:33.720 I played meat loaf in a pinball game. Wow. Uh. 2:07:35.400 --> 2:07:38.400 In Albany, New York. 2:07:38.840 --> 2:07:43.240 This is back in the day when rock stars would 2:07:43.320 --> 2:07:45.160 normally stay at airport. 2:07:45.640 --> 2:07:46.880 What are you laughing at, Zarah? 2:07:49.160 --> 2:07:51.600 What do you mean you played him in a pinball game? 2:07:51.800 --> 2:07:52.040 Okay? 2:07:52.240 --> 2:07:55.760 You know what, Yeah, because it's hard to play. 2:07:55.800 --> 2:07:59.680 With Okay, I thought I thought it was some sort 2:07:59.720 --> 2:08:01.960 of Okay, let me. 2:08:01.960 --> 2:08:06.720 Explain to you hotel. Wait, she thought you, like, were 2:08:06.800 --> 2:08:09.200 in a play and your your role was meet looks. 2:08:17.440 --> 2:08:19.600 So you were playing it was he was your opponent. 2:08:20.600 --> 2:08:24.360 Okay, So I got you saying to back and most shared. 2:08:24.440 --> 2:08:26.640 In the holidays, they used to have something called game 2:08:26.720 --> 2:08:33.360 rooms and every arcade game. Hotels used to have fully 2:08:33.440 --> 2:08:38.000 stocked arcades inside of to keep kids occupied. Now it's 2:08:38.080 --> 2:08:40.520 just like pay per view on your and your but 2:08:41.160 --> 2:08:43.160 kids used to have something to either go swimming or 2:08:43.200 --> 2:08:45.480 you go to game room. So your parents give you 2:08:45.600 --> 2:08:48.200 five bucks and then that buys you depending on if 2:08:48.240 --> 2:08:51.840 you memorize all the patterns on pac Man. You know, 2:08:52.040 --> 2:08:54.360 that could buy you good three hours in the game room. 2:08:54.440 --> 2:08:59.080 And you know your parents could do whatever. My my 2:08:59.280 --> 2:09:03.520 dad did like two weeks in Albany, New York. And 2:09:03.920 --> 2:09:07.160 that's back when now rock stars stayed in the best 2:09:07.200 --> 2:09:09.720 five star hotels and the glamour and all that stuff. 2:09:09.760 --> 2:09:12.560 But back in the day, you could always find a 2:09:12.680 --> 2:09:17.360 rock act at whatever the nearest airport hotel was, so 2:09:17.640 --> 2:09:21.480 usually the Holiday Inn Airport or the Sheridan Airport. So 2:09:22.360 --> 2:09:24.640 we happen to be appearing there, My parents happen to 2:09:24.720 --> 2:09:29.320 be appearing there and back in like seventy nine in Albany, 2:09:29.440 --> 2:09:31.920 New York. And I didn't know who Meatloff was. It 2:09:32.080 --> 2:09:37.400 just knew fat guy always playing. I forget the name 2:09:37.440 --> 2:09:41.080 of it. I think No, it wasn't Flash Court. That 2:09:41.160 --> 2:09:46.120 was like eighty one. Anyway, we became pals playing pinball 2:09:46.160 --> 2:09:49.480 games in the game room, and I later found out. 2:09:50.200 --> 2:09:52.120 Yeah, I was saying, I didn't even hear that story. 2:09:52.120 --> 2:09:56.240 I just heard meatball music and I would do anything below. 2:09:56.080 --> 2:10:00.720 Anyway, dude that I loved him. 2:10:00.920 --> 2:10:02.480 Zero, What was your first concert? 2:10:03.280 --> 2:10:06.520 Wango Tango you by Kiss FM? 2:10:07.240 --> 2:10:08.480 What the hell is wingo Tango? 2:10:08.600 --> 2:10:12.760 It's like, you know, jingle Ball? Yeah, Kiss FM and 2:10:12.960 --> 2:10:17.480 l A does a like a summertime one at the 2:10:17.640 --> 2:10:19.280 rose Ball who performed. 2:10:18.920 --> 2:10:24.320 The Oh no, she don't make us feel? Oh go ahead? 2:10:24.400 --> 2:10:24.600 Zero? 2:10:25.080 --> 2:10:30.320 What nothing good? There's age? She just sounds fourteen. 2:10:30.680 --> 2:10:32.720 I can't remember, but I think it was like the 2:10:32.840 --> 2:10:37.160 Backstreet Boys. Oh I remember Kelly Osborne saying she. 2:10:37.240 --> 2:10:42.120 Has It was during the Osborne when the Osbourne's were going. 2:10:42.360 --> 2:10:45.160 And uh, Jaul and Ashanti. 2:10:48.240 --> 2:10:49.000 Wango tango. 2:10:49.160 --> 2:10:50.720 You gotta have a little bit of everything, like dingle. 2:10:50.920 --> 2:10:51.960 What's the first record you brought? 2:10:52.000 --> 2:10:54.840 Osborne had a song, yes, cover. 2:10:54.800 --> 2:10:56.440 Of Papa Don't Preach. It was her first single. 2:10:57.320 --> 2:10:57.960 I loved it. 2:10:58.200 --> 2:11:01.440 Yeah, what was your first record? 2:11:01.520 --> 2:11:03.080 It was that? Kelly? 2:11:05.040 --> 2:11:05.080 No? 2:11:05.600 --> 2:11:05.640 No? 2:11:05.920 --> 2:11:14.600 Probably yeah, Like, how do you know? I was a 2:11:14.680 --> 2:11:19.240 kid at one point to My parents didn't buy the 2:11:19.320 --> 2:11:23.320 RAF but my friend Evans from Dynasty, you know what 2:11:23.480 --> 2:11:23.720 I know? 2:11:23.840 --> 2:11:26.840 I think Yanni did was the one word. 2:11:27.080 --> 2:11:35.080 Okay, I thought they were Anyway, I appreciate this. 2:11:35.600 --> 2:11:38.480 This is a very generous interview. We we enjoyed talking 2:11:38.520 --> 2:11:42.200 to you. Okay, you guys A drunken episode, Stephanie. 2:11:42.240 --> 2:11:44.080 Stephanie cat just told you it was one episode already 2:11:44.080 --> 2:11:46.120 told Artis, But it knocked me off my feet. This 2:11:46.320 --> 2:11:48.520 guy was talking, he was on the Conservative and he 2:11:48.600 --> 2:11:51.360 came at Belshie for no reason. He said, and where 2:11:51.400 --> 2:11:53.640 are you from? It was totally racial and your ass 2:11:53.720 --> 2:11:55.520 jumped to his defense so quick that I thought you 2:11:55.600 --> 2:11:57.200 was gonna jump through that screen. And I just want 2:11:57.240 --> 2:11:59.920 to tell you ever since that day I had folk 2:12:00.080 --> 2:12:00.760 a spirit. 2:12:01.040 --> 2:12:01.440 Thank you. 2:12:01.760 --> 2:12:03.840 He why are you asking him where he is from? 2:12:04.640 --> 2:12:05.840 He was trying to say that. 2:12:05.960 --> 2:12:09.080 It was okay that Roy Moore down in Alabama went 2:12:09.160 --> 2:12:12.960 after underage girls because he looked at Ali and he said, well, 2:12:13.040 --> 2:12:16.040 you're from afar off Land, trying to make some sort 2:12:16.080 --> 2:12:23.240 of thinly veiled Muslim race like Canada. 2:12:23.520 --> 2:12:24.920 So that guy could take a hike. 2:12:25.000 --> 2:12:28.320 Yoh, you got pissed. It was great, Okay, I'm just 2:12:28.400 --> 2:12:29.960 let her speak then, yeah, you got she got this. 2:12:30.400 --> 2:12:32.720 But think about that. Think about in Alabama that guy 2:12:32.800 --> 2:12:36.880 almost got elected. And listen, there was some Charles Barkley 2:12:36.920 --> 2:12:41.160 the night before went down to Atlanta and said, Atlanta 2:12:42.120 --> 2:12:44.440 and said we have to be better than this. And 2:12:44.560 --> 2:12:46.200 he got out the vote and made a difference. 2:12:46.560 --> 2:12:47.360 It was Charles Barkley. 2:12:48.400 --> 2:12:50.880 I remember twenty years ago. Charles Barkley was guy saying 2:12:51.320 --> 2:12:53.080 I don't want to be an idol. I don't need to. 2:12:53.280 --> 2:12:57.240 I don't want to be a role model for your kids. Evolution, 2:12:58.520 --> 2:12:59.960 all right, which guess what everybody can? 2:13:00.360 --> 2:13:03.240 Everybody can. I don't say everybody before a lot of 2:13:03.280 --> 2:13:03.600 people can. 2:13:03.640 --> 2:13:04.320 Before I let you go. 2:13:04.520 --> 2:13:07.280 Everybody has the potential to potential. Yeah, before I let 2:13:07.400 --> 2:13:11.920 you go. No, this is no because she could come back, 2:13:11.960 --> 2:13:14.440 and you know we got we should have a beat 2:13:14.480 --> 2:13:15.680 for a yes episode. 2:13:15.360 --> 2:13:16.640 Would you do a drunken episode? 2:13:17.120 --> 2:13:21.480 Well for the year in episode we just have alcohol. Actually, 2:13:21.520 --> 2:13:24.440 wait a minute, when the drink has been poor. No, 2:13:26.160 --> 2:13:28.760 I think we need to do a drunken episode with Rachel. 2:13:29.560 --> 2:13:31.160 Oh, Rachel and Stephanie. 2:13:31.240 --> 2:13:35.760 That would be something, all right, because Rachel's starting to 2:13:35.800 --> 2:13:37.000 speak to me in elevators now. 2:13:38.960 --> 2:13:41.120 I've been hearing about how good she is at pouring drinks. 2:13:41.160 --> 2:13:42.720 I just, you know, want to find out for myself. 2:13:44.440 --> 2:13:45.360 She's very good. 2:13:45.880 --> 2:13:47.240 Is Rachel single? She's still married? 2:13:47.600 --> 2:13:48.480 She is not single. 2:13:48.720 --> 2:13:50.840 Okay, she's still nice. They've been met together for a 2:13:50.920 --> 2:13:51.680 long time. It's great. 2:13:52.000 --> 2:13:53.960 All right, Well, Stephanie, we thank you for coming on. 2:13:56.600 --> 2:13:59.720 And your show airs win nine am and one pm. 2:14:00.480 --> 2:14:03.040 She's about to walk out right now. Could you say 2:14:03.080 --> 2:14:05.200 that one more time because you got interrupted. 2:14:04.920 --> 2:14:07.720 Nine am Monday to Friday, one pm Monday. 2:14:07.800 --> 2:14:10.560 What network, M S, N b C. 2:14:12.120 --> 2:14:12.920 Thank you very much. 2:14:13.200 --> 2:14:15.680 Hey. By the way, I know our audience can't see this, 2:14:15.800 --> 2:14:18.720 but these Taates cookies have they been here since They've 2:14:18.720 --> 2:14:22.320 been here the entire time. It was a courtesy of 2:14:22.360 --> 2:14:32.440 this Sugar Network than Sugar Network. Oh no, Babe, Bill, 2:14:33.080 --> 2:14:37.440 Zarah Sugar, Steve with the Sugar Network. It's like and 2:14:37.560 --> 2:14:41.879 Fanciccolo and Stephanie roll Quest Love signing off only on Pandora. 2:14:41.960 --> 2:14:43.200 We will see you on the next go around. 2:14:43.240 --> 2:14:43.480 Thank you. 2:14:44.560 --> 2:14:47.200 What's Love Supreme is a production of my Heart Radio. 2:14:47.720 --> 2:14:51.040 This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. 2:14:53.080 --> 2:14:56.320 For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, 2:14:56.560 --> 2:14:59.600 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.