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Speaker 1: Course Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

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Speaker 1: episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 2: What up, y'all, It's like eah and this QLs classic

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Speaker 2: episode is all about our MS seventy C girl, Stephanie Rule. Yup,

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Speaker 2: no stone gets unturned. In this classic episode, Stephanie Rule,

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Speaker 2: MSNBC news anchor talks about her transition from Wall Street

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Speaker 2: to news anchor and shares her views on complicated issues.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we had some real hard talks from the

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven financial crisis to free speech and the Me

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Speaker 2: Too movement. And remember that time we all talked about

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Speaker 2: the n world with Stephanie Rule. Oh yeah, you want

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Speaker 2: to listen to this episode. This episode originally aired April third,

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy Suprema Suh Suh Supremo role called Suprema Suh Suh Suprema.

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Speaker 3: Oh call Supremo Supremo role Call Supremo Sun Sun Supremo

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Speaker 3: roll call.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, sure, Supremo Sun Supremo Rod.

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Speaker 5: My name is Fante.

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Speaker 6: Yeah ha ha yeah. With Stephanie Rule. No relation to jobs.

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Speaker 7: Suprima su su.

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Speaker 8: Supremo role called Suprema Sun Sun Supremo roll call, Let's.

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Speaker 6: Go to school. Yeah with Stephanie Rule, Yeah, just talk slowly. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: this ain't a jewel.

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Speaker 8: Supremo Supremo suck Supprimo roll before.

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Speaker 9: We get to Yeah, and that's cool. Yeah to working

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Speaker 9: TV news Boss Bill went to school.

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Speaker 8: Supreme Supremo roll call, Supremo Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 2: It's like yeah with Stephanie Rule. Yeah, she's smart as

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Speaker 2: hell and she'll shade you.

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Speaker 7: To roll Supprima Subpremo, roll sure, Supremo roll.

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Speaker 10: My name sub rule. Yeah, I came to hang. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: I'm kinna do.

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Speaker 7: This Supremo roll call, Supremo so So Supremo Role.

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Speaker 8: Supremo, suthing Sun Supremo roll call Supremo Supremo roll.

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Speaker 5: I can't thank myself right now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you had a nice sisip. Steve got that.

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Speaker 2: Steve got it. He the winner. Steve might be.

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Speaker 6: Me or Fonte. Yeah, all right, I lost. Nobody cares about.

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Speaker 5: I care about your life experience.

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Speaker 6: Bill. Has anybody ever run major in?

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Speaker 11: But I've got for a long time people.

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Speaker 10: Conversation like not many things.

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Speaker 2: Rhyme with the mirror, thank got the chair, a mere

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Speaker 2: camere cashmere, first pitch at a at a baseball game.

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Speaker 6: No, it wasn't a up pitch Steve anyway. Ladies and gentlemen, Uh,

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Speaker 6: welcome to another installment of course, Love Supreme, your host

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Speaker 6: quest Love Jenkins, and we got Team Supreme in the house.

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Speaker 5: H everything, fante, how's home life?

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Speaker 6: My home life is cool. I've been getting back into

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Speaker 6: my dancing. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, back on my dancing like baby powder all on

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Speaker 9: the floor. Nah no, nah, I don't. I don't quite

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Speaker 9: use the baby powder.

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Speaker 6: I just do. I do my Chicago stepping like so

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Speaker 6: oh yeah, I dance.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's like a ride dancing with Fonte

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Speaker 2: get to baby Powder on the floor.

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Speaker 6: It might the baby Potter is en route. But is

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Speaker 6: there a society in North Carolina? Yea throwing in sexy dancing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Step is like we do, uh we do like for

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Speaker 9: the older for the black set, we do Chicago step.

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Speaker 9: But then for like the older white set, it's East

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Speaker 9: Coast swing like Lindy hop, like all of that West

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Speaker 6: Where is the street from my crib?

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Speaker 9: All the baby baby So at house parties like with

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Speaker 9: like music, the parties to play house music sometimes like

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Speaker 9: at the end of the night when the drugs have

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Speaker 9: really kicked in, people will put baby powder on the floor.

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Speaker 6: It helps you dance, it helps you just moved.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's funny because I was going to just

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Speaker 2: say that's how Jane her dancing in the first couple

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't know that, So that doesn't ruin the

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Speaker 6: wing tips at the bottom of the shoe or I don't.

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Speaker 6: I've never done. I've only seen it in action once

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Speaker 6: once in my life. Really, where was it? What was

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Speaker 6: and soul parties here in New York.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was on that like Nails Grown and Sexy.

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Speaker 9: No, it's like a house music party. Like Okay, I think,

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Speaker 9: who does that party? I should be ashamed of myself.

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Speaker 2: I should know that Steph us a dancer.

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Speaker 5: Wait time out, Let's introduce our guests, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: Today. Our guest is I guess my part time work wife. Hey,

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Speaker 6: are we there?

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Speaker 10: Your real friend?

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, I'm going to get to that. I'm going

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Speaker 6: to get to that friend.

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Speaker 5: You don't know that yet.

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Speaker 6: I have a few part time wives at thirty rocks.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, and my real friend.

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Speaker 6: Uh, but basically I'll say that you got to put

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Speaker 6: your trust and someone to inform you of what's going on.

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Speaker 6: And I'm the kind of guy that still wakes up

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Speaker 6: at eight eight eight a m. Nine am to make

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Speaker 6: sure that the world still running. Yeah, it has it imploded. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and uh, our next guest today, I kind of trust

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Speaker 6: I z y. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: The black Heart just got a little real restrictions.

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Speaker 5: You got it, but yeah, you saved it from going

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Speaker 5: off in the wind.

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Speaker 6: Thank you. Uh, ladies and gentlemen. One of my square glasses. Well,

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Speaker 6: ladies and gentlemen. Uh, one of my favorites at my

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Speaker 5: So we were talking about baby powder.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, you put it on the floor to

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Speaker 6: hip slide.

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Speaker 9: But but now me and my wife, that's whatever we

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Speaker 9: get back in that dancing we do a Chicago step.

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Speaker 6: I do like it all, but she kind of just sticks.

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Speaker 6: The stepper, like the funny thing is like when people

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Speaker 9: That temple is like really kind of too fast. So

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Speaker 9: like the slow the sexy ballroom is gonna fall anywhere

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Speaker 9: from like between the sheets.

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Speaker 6: You can't. That's you can yep footsteps in the dark,

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Speaker 6: not that footsteps might be too slow. What you can do?

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Speaker 11: It is it really good for your marriage?

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Speaker 2: It is?

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Speaker 6: It is.

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Speaker 5: It keeps you, It keeps you going to have something

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you gotta have something and I get born dinner, yes,

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Speaker 9: whatever in the movies, just the Netflix and chill.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 10: So when you're married, like the beautiful thing about being

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Speaker 10: together and dancing, you don't need to talk because talking

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Speaker 10: when you're married involves like twice no, but just like

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Speaker 10: so much men, like how do you go from I'm

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Speaker 10: dealing with bills, I'm dealing with life, I'm dealing with

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Speaker 10: who are you putting to bed to? But dancing takes

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Speaker 9: No, dancing is the It is the vertical expression of

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Speaker 9: a horizontal desire right down if bill right now what

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Speaker 9: you also realize they called sex the horizontal mambo, so

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Speaker 9: you know, hey, there it is so yeah, that's yeah,

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Speaker 9: but we that's what we do.

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Speaker 6: Wow, words of wisdom from fun Okay, Oh damn, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: I mean you know, I have to represent for paid bills.

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Speaker 6: What song I forgot? Don't have a song. I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: make it.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna make up one. He kills it with more.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I don't have scholar Yeah, I mean super

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Speaker 6: wisdom or something like that. Anyway, we should also know

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Speaker 6: that trustees Era is here and she's already shaking her

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Speaker 12: I don't want to talk.

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Speaker 5: Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 2: People should know that this is only Sarah's second appearance

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Speaker 5: Getting word on the.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, she was. She was active in doing Roan.

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Speaker 6: He was banging.

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Speaker 2: We had Roan Pharaoh on the show stuff.

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Speaker 11: He's a serious man, well not.

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Speaker 2: On our show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was crooning. He was crooning like little little

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Speaker 6: That was a little bit he.

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Speaker 2: Did it on. Roan did it on purpose. He knew

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Speaker 6: Come on, well, wait, let me let me ask you,

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Speaker 6: because you know, I don't want to be all serious

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Speaker 10: I can tell how I know you?

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Speaker 5: Okay, how do we know each other?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: See, I have my story of how we met, and

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Speaker 6: You start first, he and I met.

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Speaker 10: We were doing this wacky conference, uh and it was Quest.

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Speaker 10: It was Steve a okay and I and we just

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Speaker 11: And then he invited me to.

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Speaker 10: One of his food salons, and I got to tell you,

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Speaker 6: Wait, that's that's your take hold. I love you for

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Speaker 10: Just waiting. I walk into the food salon and like,

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Speaker 10: You know here I am. I'm a Quest food salon.

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Speaker 10: And I run into the fashion designer of Leila Rose,

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Speaker 10: so I hadn't seen in years and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 10: I'm like, hey, Leilah great to see you. What are

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Speaker 10: And she's like, oh, I'm a good friend of Amir's

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Speaker 10: and she's like, how about you, And I'm like, I

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Speaker 10: don't know a mirror.

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Speaker 11: I came with quest.

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Speaker 10: And she's like, yeah, that's his name.

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Speaker 11: And I'm like, oh my god, right and dying.

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Speaker 10: I'm like at this point, I'm just like power eating

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Speaker 10: everything there. I want to run away.

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Speaker 11: And so I don't even know who to talk to.

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Speaker 10: And at the party, he had this Instagram installation that

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Speaker 10: every picture you take, you press something and the photograph

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Speaker 10: can get printed and then you get to take a

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Speaker 10: picture home. Okay, so I meet a guy named Kevin. Okay,

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Speaker 10: so I'm so embarrassed by already what's happened. I don't

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Speaker 10: want to talk to any significant person there. So I'm like,

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Speaker 10: you know what, I'm gonna talk to Kevin, who's printing

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Speaker 11: So I'm like, hey, Kevin, blah blah, Oh, Hey, what's

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Speaker 6: This is cool?

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Speaker 10: I love Instagram. He's like, oh, that's cool, and I'm like,

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Speaker 6: You have a lot of jobs. And I'm a popcorn salt.

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Speaker 6: Take you just take his seat something and the salt

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Speaker 5: It's cool.

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Speaker 10: And she said, you each need to think collectively, how

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Speaker 10: am I going to help one another?

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Speaker 11: And it was my turn.

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Speaker 10: Everyone had to say what they wanted to do in

447
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Speaker 10: their next chapter, and someone else had to raise their

448
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Speaker 10: hand and say, I'm going to get you there.

449
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Speaker 11: And it was my turn, and I said, do you know,

450
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Speaker 11: I think.

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Speaker 10: I've always wanted to work in the media, especially after

452
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Speaker 10: the financial crisis when people were just so anti power

453
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Speaker 10: and money didn't necessarily understand it. And I said, you know,

454
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Speaker 10: I think I've always wanted to work in the media.

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Speaker 10: And there was a woman there who worked directly for

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Speaker 10: Mike Bloomberg, and she said, I'm going to introduce you

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Speaker 10: to Mike. And I met Bloomberg, and I met the

458
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Speaker 10: guy who ran Bloomberg Media, and he said, and this

459
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Speaker 10: really speaks to what you all are doing right here.

460
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Speaker 10: And he said, in the new world of media and news,

461
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Speaker 10: we're not going to have any more people reading teleprompters.

462
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Speaker 10: People trust relationships, they don't trust information. Because you can

463
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Speaker 10: get information from anywhere, And he said you have to

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Speaker 10: know the content, love the content, and have a desire

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Speaker 10: to be on TV. And I said, well, I think

466
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Speaker 10: I have all three. But in order for me to

467
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Speaker 10: walk away from my career, you can pay me zero dollars,

468
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Speaker 10: but you need to give me a show to anchor,

469
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Speaker 10: and you need to hire somebody to teach me how

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Speaker 10: to do it.

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Speaker 11: And he said deal.

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Speaker 6: So you're telling me that you, unlike Boss Bill here,

473
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Speaker 6: you had zero radio, television film experiences.

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Speaker 11: I had done TV a couple of times as a

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Speaker 11: guest Jersey.

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Speaker 10: South South County, North Jersey, South Jerseys like Philly, Yes, yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 10: South Jersey.

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Speaker 6: Is you're serious?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd never done it before.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So my version of meeting you. You mentioned with

481
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Speaker 5: the speech that you, me and Steve Aoki did.

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Speaker 6: First of all of all the things I do, I

483
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Speaker 6: hate public speaking the most, which is what I think.

484
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Speaker 6: I tweet and write better more because I can edit

485
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Speaker 6: better and it seems fluid, but I don't know. My

486
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Speaker 6: mind also has edit in real time, so there's always

487
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Speaker 6: gaps in spaces. And I'm in a room with a

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Speaker 6: bunch of fortune five hundred people. You know, of course,

489
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Speaker 6: like my management they want me to do more speaking

490
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Speaker 6: and more you know, conferences or whatever. And it's like

491
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Speaker 6: I have ulcerus about like the anxiety all those things,

492
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Speaker 6: so I nervously spoke about I forgot what I did.

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Speaker 6: It's like a it was like a poor man's Ted talk,

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Speaker 6: or maybe it's the rich man's Ted talk. What was

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Speaker 6: do you remember what the conference?

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Speaker 10: Yes, so that it was all it was basically people

497
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Speaker 10: who run marketing for Fortune five hundred companies and consumer companies,

498
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Speaker 10: and then the speakers were sort of influencers. So those

499
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Speaker 10: heads of marketing would understand what you have to say

500
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Speaker 10: in the way you think, so your management team would

501
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Speaker 10: want you there because you're a highly marketable guy.

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Speaker 6: So okay, So basically I get on the mic and

503
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Speaker 6: totally mirrored up like hello, like just say a sentence there,

504
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Speaker 6: this is me, How are you exactly? That was wow?

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Speaker 2: Wow, sound like mprs.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So there's there's a room for creativity and about

507
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Speaker 6: to cry advertising world. And I feel it like me

508
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Speaker 6: giving the speech in seventh grade.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I feel like Steve also was sort of like.

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Speaker 2: Well you know, I uh, we're gonna like and so

511
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Speaker 2: today we're going to do this literally.

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Speaker 6: So here's the thing. I'd never heard of Stepan you.

513
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Speaker 6: But she walked on that stage and like it was instant.

514
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Speaker 6: We all came in attention like oooh yeah, cot and

515
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Speaker 6: We're like, who is this woman? Like at first I

516
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Speaker 6: thought she was a comedian, so I'm like trying to

517
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Speaker 6: google her at the same time. Oh wow.

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Speaker 9: Well, the thing was, she's at the presence of like, yeah,

519
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Speaker 9: I was at the mic stand, id and take the

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Speaker 9: mic off the mine stand. She like took the mic

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Speaker 9: off the mine stances, okay, show off hands no no, no, no,

522
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Speaker 9: Like she totally took over the room, and I was like,

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Speaker 9: who is this woman? I have to know who this

524
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Speaker 9: woman is?

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Speaker 2: So then why did you go to the business route

526
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Speaker 2: first instead of doing the media right, I'm curious if

527
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Speaker 2: you had the personality for it in the past.

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Speaker 5: My point was that you were born star.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my point. That was my question based on

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Speaker 2: I knew that's where you were going because I ended up.

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Speaker 10: In banking right out of undergrad because I went to

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Speaker 10: college in the US only for two years, and I

533
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Speaker 10: studied abroad for two years read right, Kenya, Guatemala in Italy,

534
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Speaker 10: and I stayed in Europe because I had no money left.

535
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Speaker 10: But I wanted to day in Europe, and in order

536
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Speaker 10: to do so, you need to get a job. So

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Speaker 10: I'm like, I'll get a job with the bank. They

538
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Speaker 10: have banks all over the world, and I got a

539
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Speaker 10: job with Merrill Lynch. They ended up sending me back

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Speaker 10: to New York. And a newsroom and a trading floor

541
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Speaker 10: are very, very similar. They are high energy, loads of testosterone, passionate.

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Speaker 10: It's all about teamwork. Everyone kind of leaves it on

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Speaker 10: the field. And I didn't even know what anybody did there,

544
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Speaker 10: but I'm like, whatever they do here for a.

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Speaker 11: Living, I'm going to do this. And the other thing

546
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Speaker 11: is you can make a lot of money.

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Speaker 10: And no one wants to say that that's an ugly truth,

548
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 10: but especially for women, if you can do something to

549
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Speaker 10: make yourself financially independent, it's a game changer. When you

550
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Speaker 10: think about all the things that happen to women in

551
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Speaker 10: the workplace and put back us into a corner. It's

552
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Speaker 10: about not having financial freedom, and when you need a

553
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Speaker 10: job so badly that you don't know if you can

554
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Speaker 10: make rent at the end of the month, you'll take shit,

555
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Speaker 10: and so to work that you can and I remember

556
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Speaker 10: I almost left banking two years in because I really

557
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Speaker 10: wanted to go to journalism school, and somebody who ended

558
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Speaker 10: up being a mentor of mine, said, don't You'll end

559
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Speaker 10: up a weather girl in Tuscaloosa. And by the way,

560
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Speaker 10: you'll be horrible in local news, which I would be.

561
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Speaker 10: I would be terrible at it. But financial freedom does

562
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Speaker 10: give you the ability to just make better choice. I mean,

563
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Speaker 10: when you have a lot of when you have a

564
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Speaker 10: lot of financial freedom, I think people make terrible choices.

565
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 10: That's when they're throwing money out the window. But when

566
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Speaker 10: you know that you've got your situation covered, you can

567
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Speaker 10: just take a step back and start to really pursue

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Speaker 10: things that you want to do.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy when you think about how many peop I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking about my me. Of course I'm thinking about myself,

571
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Speaker 2: but then I think about how many people just don't

572
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Speaker 2: know what that feels like. Financial freedom like not check

573
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Speaker 2: because it's not like chasing like not having to have

574
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Speaker 2: a job, like being able to chase your career goals

575
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Speaker 2: like that is.

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Speaker 11: But that's because we don't teach anyone to save money.

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Speaker 10: When you think about what we go to school for,

578
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Speaker 10: and I'm not talking about college, I'm talking about high school.

579
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Speaker 10: Are you using algebra? Are you using calculus?

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Speaker 6: No?

581
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Speaker 10: But it really would have been great if they taught

582
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Speaker 10: you how to get a mortgage, if they taught you

583
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Speaker 10: how a savings account worked, if you didn't have a

584
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Speaker 10: parent at home that ever said let me show you.

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Speaker 10: And I don't mean how to be an investor, but

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Speaker 10: how the stock market works. No one teaches you those things.

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Speaker 2: And especially I mean not for nothing, but yet that's

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Speaker 2: black homes.

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Speaker 10: But but that's if you think about financial mobility. You're

590
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Speaker 10: never going to get that if someone doesn't teach it

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Speaker 10: to you.

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Speaker 2: That's why they try to not teach it to us,

593
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Speaker 2: because they don't want especially for black people, we've been

594
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Speaker 2: had hundreds of years when they don't want you to

595
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Speaker 2: have that.

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Speaker 10: So it's not part of the core curriculum in public schools.

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Speaker 10: I think that's a huge problem. I've been trying very

598
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Speaker 10: hard to talk to anyone.

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Speaker 6: I can just do one class called life.

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Speaker 10: You forget when you had home economics in school. Home

601
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Speaker 10: ac which public schools don't have anymore.

602
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Speaker 2: Because budgets are gone, but homeck is not.

603
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Speaker 10: Was not just cooking and sewing. It was also personal

604
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Speaker 10: budgeting right, And so we live in a world where

605
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Speaker 10: people are going, I got to run to a sample

606
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Speaker 10: sale because oh my goodness, everything's on sale. It's not

607
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Speaker 10: on sale if you're buying it on your credit card

608
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Speaker 10: and you can't pay your bill at the end of

609
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Speaker 10: the month. And if we don't start helping people learn

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Speaker 10: the basics of just saving money. And I realize life

611
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Speaker 10: is expensive, but if you can save money and you

612
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Speaker 10: know you have a little bit of cushion, you just

613
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Speaker 10: don't have to take so much shit.

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Speaker 6: Amen. So okay, So in the banking game, what is

615
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Speaker 6: the thin line between like what what should the real

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Speaker 6: ceialing goal be? Because I know that when I think

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Speaker 6: of banking, automatically think of Wall Street, Koch Brothers, Uh,

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Speaker 6: not AIG but us Yeah, yeah, just ron Ponzi scheme

619
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Speaker 6: like made off. Yeah, I think of corrupt people. Is

620
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Speaker 6: there a good example of lucrative banking done right where

621
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Speaker 6: you can serve a community and be okay?

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Speaker 10: If you think, I actually think every job on some

623
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 10: level is the same. Every job is about relationship building

624
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Speaker 10: and trust. I don't think that my job when I

625
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 10: was in banking, truthfully, is much different than my job now.

626
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Speaker 10: If you can sit down and help, whether it's your

627
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 10: client or your viewer, get smarter and better and understand

628
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 10: what they need and what they want to do.

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Speaker 11: That's your goal.

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Speaker 10: When I worked in banking, there was no one there

631
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Speaker 10: was There wasn't a hedge fund that said, well, it

632
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 10: is our mission statement to use Stephanie rule to give

633
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 10: us the best investment ideas. But they just had to

634
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Speaker 10: figure out Stephanie rules someone I could trust. Are there

635
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 10: examples of good banking? Yes, like when we dump on

636
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 10: Corporate America all the time. Corporate America is what keeps

637
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 10: many cities thriving. Right. Well, when you go you were

638
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 10: just talking about Atlanta, what's in Atlanta? Bank America. That's

639
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 10: the biggest company there, and I'm sure they're the biggest

640
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 10: corporate donor in Atlanta. I'm sure they're one of the

641
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 10: biggest employers. So they're providing healthcare, they're helping schools there.

642
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 10: And yes, there are bad, evil, egregious practices, but in

643
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 10: every business right in in news, in media and entertainment.

644
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 10: Once people reach that star status and rules get bent

645
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 10: for them, then the world starts to go out a whack.

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Speaker 11: And that's every industry.

647
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Speaker 2: But it seems like in the bank industry, everybody's had

648
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: their fair share of controversy, except when I think I'm like,

649
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: maybe I feel like TD right now is like the

650
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Speaker 2: standalone but Bank of America TD Bank Toronto.

651
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 10: Toronto Dominion because it's a really vanilla bank that doesn't

652
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Speaker 10: do too many sort of funky edgy things.

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Speaker 6: They say, thank you.

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Speaker 11: But one of the reasons to be so mad.

655
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Speaker 10: At the industry, and it's not their fault, there's not

656
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Speaker 10: enough rules. Right, So after financial crisis when people didn't

657
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Speaker 10: go to jail, and everyone's like, what the hell, how

658
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 10: come no one went to jail? Well, the problem is

659
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Speaker 10: they didn't go to jail because technically they didn't break

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Speaker 10: the law. Now does that mean we need more regulation?

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Speaker 10: It does. But you can take that to the pharmaceutical business,

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Speaker 10: right You could say, like, pharmaceutical is the most hated

663
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Speaker 10: industry out there, but those companies are making billions and billions.

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Speaker 11: Of dollars because what do they do?

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Speaker 10: They have the big The pharmaceutical industry has the biggest

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Speaker 10: lobbying effort out there, and so there are very few

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Speaker 10: politicians on either side of the angle aisle that are

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Speaker 10: looking to regulate big pharma and so lots of regulation

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Speaker 10: is bad, but we need some rules to protect people.

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Speaker 13: The stakes are higher though, in banking than they are

671
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Speaker 13: in every in other industries. You know, when somebody's corrupt

672
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Speaker 13: and banks, it could cause it ever recession.

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Speaker 10: Yes, yes, if somebody steals away, especially I mean in banking.

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Speaker 10: It was sort of the perfect storm of a lot

675
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Speaker 10: of bad things. And listen, the unfortunate thing about the

676
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Speaker 10: financial crisis is the people who were hurt the most,

677
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 10: who lost their homes, still haven't recovered, but the industry

678
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 10: has and that sucks.

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Speaker 6: Where do you think we are now? Do you think

680
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Speaker 6: we're on the verge of a recession?

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Speaker 9: Like?

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Speaker 6: What do you think we are fering?

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Speaker 10: And like it's got to come again because we've now

684
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Speaker 10: had ten good years now. One of the issues though,

685
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Speaker 10: and it really led to sort of the birth of

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Speaker 10: the Trump voter. It was President Obama's last State of

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Speaker 10: the Union address, and I remember it like it was yesterday,

688
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 10: and he said, anyone who says that the economy has

689
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Speaker 10: not recovered is peddling lies. And here's where he was wrong,

690
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 10: because the economy had recovered for people who lived on

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Speaker 10: the coasts, for people who worked in technology for people

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Speaker 10: who worked in an entertainment but for people in Middle

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Speaker 10: America it didn't. And sort of out of that speech

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Speaker 10: and that sentiment was quasi the birth of the Trump

695
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 10: voter who said, hold on a second still, I didn't

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Speaker 10: get my house back. I haven't paid you know, I

697
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 10: haven't paid gotten any more money at my job.

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Speaker 11: And just think about this.

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Speaker 10: I could say to you, it's two hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 10: a lot of money for a family to make, and

701
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Speaker 10: you'd be like, yeah, that's a respectable amount of money.

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Speaker 10: And that's a family who maybe that could be a

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Speaker 10: family with two parents where somebody is a teacher or

704
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Speaker 10: an accountant or an engineer. But a family who makes

705
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 10: two hundred thousand dollars in the United States cannot afford

706
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Speaker 10: to support themselves and send a kid to college, to

707
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Speaker 10: a private college, and definitely can't send two kids. But

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00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 10: here's this is the silver lining that I want to

709
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 10: come to. The silver lining is this that family is

710
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 10: angry and they feel left out and they feel forgotten.

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00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 10: It's not that that family is filled with hatred. It's

712
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Speaker 10: not that they hate immigrants, it's not that they hate

713
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Speaker 10: other cultures. Is that that family is saying the system

714
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 10: doesn't work for me, and so they're frustrated. So what

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00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 10: gives me hope is when we say this country is

716
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 10: so angry and so hatefuled and so divided, they're not.

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00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 10: There are just people who feel forgotten and angry. And

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Speaker 10: one of the first things you do when you're angry

719
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 10: and forgotten is you blame someone else and you point

720
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Speaker 10: the finger, and it's a natural emotion.

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Speaker 2: Call the girls are selling water or you do listen.

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Speaker 10: Those are very bad examples, and those are real examples

723
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Speaker 10: of young kids who are entrepreneurial, who are doing great things.

724
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Speaker 10: But that person who did that, that's one bad egg.

725
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Speaker 10: And I'm not saying that that bag that egg isn't rotten.

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Speaker 10: But can I tell you a story about a woman

727
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Speaker 10: that I met if I'm.

728
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Speaker 12: And she was.

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Speaker 10: It was a terrible story, but she actually gives me hope.

730
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Speaker 10: So I was an upstate New York at a dude

731
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Speaker 10: ranch with my family and a woman comes up and

732
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Speaker 10: the owner says, a waitress would like to talk to

733
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Speaker 10: you and tell you why she loves President Trump. So

734
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Speaker 10: she knew who she knew who I was, and I

735
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 10: was like, we're going to send my kids off the

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Speaker 10: table and she can come on over. So she sits down.

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Speaker 5: You allow it.

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Speaker 2: I allow it. That was a nice way for them

739
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Speaker 2: to do it, though, So let me tell.

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Speaker 10: You I allowed it because I want to get smarter

741
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Speaker 10: and better, and because I do have an open mind

742
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Speaker 10: and an open heart.

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Speaker 6: Okay, No, I just meant, like I figure family time

744
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Speaker 6: is if I'm at the table.

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Speaker 10: No, I can't take a selfie with you right now,

746
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 10: like when you're at a dude ranch for four days.

747
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 10: You're through three children. You're going to take a break.

748
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Speaker 10: So she sits down, and she said to me, I

749
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Speaker 10: want to tell you why I love Donald Trump. And

750
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Speaker 10: I said sure, and she said I love him and

751
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Speaker 10: he loves me.

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Speaker 11: And she said, and you. She said, you think.

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Speaker 10: That I am white to trash And I said, oh

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Speaker 10: my goodness, I said I absolutely don't. And I said,

755
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 10: why on earth would you think this? And she said, well,

756
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Speaker 10: I want to tell you my story. I want to

757
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Speaker 10: tell you who I am.

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Speaker 2: He thinks she's white trash, that's the crazy.

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Speaker 11: And I said, please tell me.

760
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Speaker 10: And she said, well, Donald Trump came to see me,

761
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Speaker 10: meaning he did a rally up there where she lives.

762
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Speaker 10: And she said and he cares. And I said, tell

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Speaker 10: me what his policies are that are going to help

764
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Speaker 10: you in your community. And she said, I don't know,

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Speaker 10: but I know he came here. And then she said

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Speaker 10: I'm fifty five years old, and she said I'm a

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Speaker 10: single mother. And she goes and I have two adult

768
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Speaker 10: daughters who are single mothers. And she said, where you live,

769
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Speaker 10: do you have charter schools? And I played and she

770
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Speaker 10: played me and I said, oh, my goodness, yes, my

771
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 10: husband right here is the board chair of a charter school,

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Speaker 10: Arkinson Achievement for School. And she was like, great, where

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Speaker 10: I live here, we don't have any charter schools. We

774
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Speaker 10: have the Warst Schools in New York State. I was like, oh,

775
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Speaker 10: she goes, where you live, you have after school programs

776
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Speaker 10: where the she said, I can't think of the world,

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Speaker 10: but it was like a thinly veiled word that wasn't

778
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Speaker 10: racially sensitive, and she goes, were the girls in your

779
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 10: neighborhood even after school program for those girls' kids? And

780
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 10: I bet you raise money? And I said, yes, yes,

781
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 10: you know, we have a big brother, big sister, blah blah,

782
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Speaker 10: you know. She goes, yeah, you have charity events for

783
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 10: those things. You don't ever come up here and raise

784
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Speaker 10: any money, blah blah blah, so on and so forth,

785
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 10: and she said, we're dependent on social services and they

786
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 10: don't ever answer the phone. And she said, I don't

787
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Speaker 10: have grandchildren who are washing up on shore wearing tattered

788
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Speaker 10: clothes in an inflatable boat. And she said, my story

789
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 10: isn't ugly enough to be on the cover of your newspaper,

790
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 10: but I am not pretty enough to go to your

791
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Speaker 10: house for dinner.

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Speaker 2: But him a couple of esquire last months. So with

793
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Speaker 2: the whole white problem.

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Speaker 12: So but to her point, but to her point, it

795
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 12: just makes me sad that she thinks she thinks he cares.

796
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Speaker 2: Because he show up.

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Speaker 6: The thing is, I think he knows. The thing is

798
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 6: is that what makes me more frustrated with him than

799
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 6: anything is because I believe he knows better because he's

800
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 6: a vesting promoter. He knows.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And it's like he played her.

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00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 11: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 10: She's not wrong in that Hillary Clinton did spend two

804
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Speaker 10: or three work weeks in the August of twenty sixteen

805
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Speaker 10: doing the one thing she didn't need to do. She

806
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 10: went to the Hamptons. And oftentimes when people are their

807
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 10: most desperate, they need someone to just look at them

808
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 10: and just hold their hand. And this goes to the

809
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 10: feeling of isolation people have with the birth of social media.

810
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 10: People aren't talking to their neighbors or their friends.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 10: I've lived in New York City for twenty two years.

813
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 10: I never know the names of all my neighbors and

814
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Speaker 10: the doorman and the building next to me. And you

815
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 10: know who does my mother Because my mother is not

816
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 10: of a social media generation. She doesn't use the cell phone,

817
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 10: she doesn't use so she doesn't use a computer, but

818
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 10: she knows my community. And so whether Donald Trump is

819
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 10: sincere or not, and you're one hundred percent right, he's not.

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Speaker 10: In fact, when he goes and does those rallies, they

821
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 10: often say that once people become the president and they

822
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 10: see the country, they become empathetic because they travel.

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Speaker 11: When President Trump does.

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Speaker 10: A rally, he literally lands, unrolls the carpet, pitches the tent,

825
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 10: does the show, throws the hats and gets back on

826
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Speaker 10: and leaves. So what you're saying is completely true. It's

827
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Speaker 10: sad because he doesn't care. But even if it's about

828
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 10: giving people short.

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Speaker 5: Term hope, the idea of Kirie her.

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Speaker 10: But I also think about when people grew to know

831
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Speaker 10: him and believe his story. They were watching The Apprentice.

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00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 10: And here's the thing. In the nineteen eighties, Johnny Carson

833
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 10: was considered the most trusted man in America. And it's

834
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 10: because when people were watching him, they're watching him the

835
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 10: same time they're watching Questlove at eleven thirty at night

836
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 10: in their beds, in their underwear, in their pajamas, and

837
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 10: they feel like they have a relationship with you. Right.

838
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 10: Think about a beloved person in America, it's Al Roker.

839
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 10: Al Roker doesn't just do the weather. He goes out

840
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 10: into Rockefeller Plaza and he physically touches people who are

841
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 10: out there in the cold, and he's talking to them

842
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 10: about their weather. On the first morning, and saw people

843
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 10: saw Donald Trump at ten o'clock at night on NBC News,

844
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 10: eating their ice creams, sitting on their couch, and they're

845
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 10: watching him play a role that wasn't true. But this

846
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 10: you're fired, straight talking. I'm the richest guy in New York.

847
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 10: So if you watched Mike Bloomberg when he spoke at

848
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Speaker 10: the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, I remember it because

849
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 10: I worked at Bloomberger I said for five years. If

850
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 10: you actually watched his speech, it was it wasn't bitter,

851
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 10: but there was this twinge in it because you could

852
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 10: actually hear that Mike Bloomberg is going, this guy's a fraud.

853
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 10: And he wasn't saying I'm the richest guy in New

854
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 10: York or I'm the most philanthropic, but as the guy

855
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 10: who is one of the greatest philanthropists in the country,

856
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 10: who is a great businessman, who is extraordinary here. You

857
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 10: actually watched him at that podium kind of shaking his head, going,

858
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 10: this is a con man America. And whether he's whether

859
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 10: President Trump is a con man or not, his salesmanship worked.

860
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Speaker 2: And he didn't. It's funny. I feel like he almost

861
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: he cheated and used it. It's privilege in a way

862
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Speaker 2: for him to be able to just go touch them

863
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Speaker 2: by then feel affected and not have to tell them

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Speaker 2: what he's going to do for them or anything. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: I'm like Obama had to go touch people, lay down

866
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Speaker 2: a plan, convince you, put a pen, you know what

867
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Speaker 2: I'm saying, And all he had to do was come

868
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Speaker 2: to your neighborhood and say how you doing, I'm out

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Speaker 2: go And that's just an interesting breakdown in that way.

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Speaker 10: But it's great to think about Obama now. The one

871
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 10: thing that Obama gave people, because remember Obama was elected

872
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 10: as the financial crisis was crumbling. Obama was a message

873
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 10: of hope, and President Trump had a different message of hope. Right,

874
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 10: Obama had a universal message of inclusion and hope. And

875
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 10: then eight years went by and a lot of people said,

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Speaker 10: well I didn't get included, and President Trump, whether he's

877
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 10: whether it's true or not, said but I love you

878
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 10: and I see you. Let's do this.

879
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: Why didn't he They make them prove it though, if

880
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: you let me show me.

881
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 10: Because the benefit that he had is he wasn't a politician,

882
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 10: so there was no track record to point to. He

883
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 10: was going up against somebody who had a lifetime track

884
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 10: record in the public eye, who people had been critiquing

885
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 10: for thirty years, and she had been critiqued so much

886
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 10: that she lost a sense of her real self and

887
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 10: humanity because she had been politicized for all those years.

888
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 5: Okay, I was.

889
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 6: Also going to add in that, I mean, I personally

890
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 6: believe that with Russia interfering with and I do I

891
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 6: have to say allegedly interfering oh no more think yeah,

892
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 6: but I still don't believe that he would have won

893
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 6: had had the election been unscathed. I truly don't think that.

894
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 10: I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I don't give

895
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 10: any I don't give any time or heart to that

896
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 10: because the toothpaste ain't going back in the tube, right,

897
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 10: and so like even for me, Robert Muller is going

898
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 10: to figure out what Robert Muller does, and in my opinion.

899
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 6: That you're going to be a result, Like what do

900
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 6: you think the end game is going to be? He's

901
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 6: still going to do his four years.

902
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 10: Honestly, I don't don't say eight years. Listen, I think

903
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 10: there's a very good chance he gets reelected.

904
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 5: Serious, I do do.

905
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 2: I want to hear why? So what do you think?

906
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: Why is it based on what you were just saying

907
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: kind of about the interaction.

908
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 10: No, I think that the president has uh And again

909
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 10: I'm not saying it's good, but I think he has

910
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 10: a two pronged plan that works. So if you actually

911
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 10: look at his policies, he is hooking up the rich,

912
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 10: and the rich didn't actually vote for him the first

913
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 10: time around, and he is helping them out all over

914
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 10: the place. Corporate America and the super wealthy who do

915
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 10: not have Trump signs in their front yard. They're not

916
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 10: wearing Make America Great Again hats that they want to

917
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 10: protect the status quo. They'll get quietly voting for him.

918
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 10: So he hooks them up on policies over here, and

919
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 10: at the same time that he's doing that quietly while

920
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 10: you're sleeping, he's doing a Trump rally. And at that

921
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 10: Trump rally he gins up. He stirs up all of

922
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 10: those culture wars. So he's going, I know, I haven't

923
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 10: helped you in business yet, and you're not making any

924
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 10: more money. Give me time. Give me time, because when

925
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 10: we go, oh my god, these tariffs, like he's killing

926
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 10: the farmers, and I'm saying he's killing the farmers, and

927
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 10: I'm saying it from a newsroom in New York. And

928
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 10: then when you actually send a reporter to Kansas or

929
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 10: Nebraska and you interview those farmers, those farmers say, you

930
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 10: know what, I'm going to give him more time.

931
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 11: At least he's taking this on because he talks the talk.

932
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 10: But then he stirs up these race baiting culture arguments

933
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 10: that take in the build the wall. You know, these

934
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 10: three word slogans, and he goes to those rallies and

935
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 10: those people are going yes. So his base stands with him.

936
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 10: Rich people stand with him. And then the third lane,

937
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 10: which is his truly winning lane. What wait, nope, it's

938
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 10: judges the president. It's judges.

939
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's he's president.

940
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: Judges.

941
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 10: You've got two Supreme Court justices he's ready to gout

942
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 10: on the bench. And even more than that is federal judges. Yes, okay,

943
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 10: federal judges. He has got a record number of federal

944
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 10: judges on the bench, and those are jobs for a lifetime,

945
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 10: and the majority of them are white men under the

946
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 10: age of forty. So if you are a Christian conservative

947
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 10: and you say, and I'm going to you, I don't

948
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 10: understand how the evangelical community could be standing by the president.

949
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 10: I mean, what do you think about the things that

950
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 10: he says and does? Well, guess what if you're somebody

951
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 10: in that community, you're saying, I'm not even going to

952
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 10: know what Trump's name is in four years, But he

953
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 10: is putting judges on the bench who support my beliefs

954
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 10: and they're going to be there forever. And the justice

955
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 10: system impacts every aspect of our lives you telling.

956
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 11: Right, I mean yesterday are today?

957
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 10: Excuse me, Paul Manniford's lawyers are arguing for a more

958
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 10: lenient sentence, saying, well, he didn't kill anyone, he didn't

959
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 10: run a drug cartel. He's not Bernie made Off. And

960
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 10: I'm laughing to myself saying, well, really you're after you're

961
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 10: representing Paul Manafort. Are you then going to be representing

962
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 10: young African American males who get put in prison for

963
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 10: small drug infractions and work on lesser sentences for them.

964
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 10: The answer is no.

965
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 6: Well, okay, you mentioned about the beliefs in the lifestyles

966
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 6: of the coasts versus that of Middle America.

967
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 10: But remember Middle America is also right here. We keep

968
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 10: thinking that like that Trump voter is like way out

969
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 10: there in the hinterland, and not.

970
00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 5: Is Middle America.

971
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 6: So with what Alexandria Alexandria Cortes says about this new

972
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 6: Green Deal, all right, I know she's wet behind the ears,

973
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 6: I know she's a newbie, But does she have a

974
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 6: point or Because the thing is is that you can

975
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 6: look at it both ways. Because the thing is that, okay,

976
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 6: I respect the ideal of the Middle America worker or whatever,

977
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 6: you know, the coal miner. I understand people have to

978
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 6: feed their kids, but at what point do we realize

979
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 6: that it's twenty twenty and technology and your day is

980
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 6: just over a new well.

981
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: A lot of them aren't working. So aren't they kind

982
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: of understanding that because having things shrunk in the middle.

983
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 11: But it's also not you keep.

984
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 10: Thinking it's the coal worker out there because people right here.

985
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 13: Why didn't the lady from upstate that you were talking

986
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 13: about earlier, why and she just moved down to New

987
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 13: York City?

988
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, list stop stop listen, no no, no,

989
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 6: but time out, time out. He's joking, But I'm kind

990
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 6: of thinking of that. And but the thing is that

991
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 6: people know you know what I'm saying.

992
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 10: I can barely, but that's real. That's real, like like

993
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 10: the struggle is real for everyone, right, and the rich

994
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 10: have gotten people who are like I'm talking rich, rich

995
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 10: have gotten so rich that things don't even cut like

996
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 10: there is no price on anything.

997
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 13: How do you redistribute Sorry to interrupt your thought, how

998
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 13: I'm trying to just get to the some of some

999
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 13: of the end endgame. How do you redistribute wealth without

1000
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 13: redistributing wealth listen.

1001
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 10: It's really tricky.

1002
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 9: You know.

1003
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 10: It's somebody who you should actually meet if you haven't

1004
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 10: met him yet. Is a guy named Michael Tubbs. He's

1005
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 10: the current mayor of Stockton, California.

1006
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 11: I love this boy.

1007
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 10: He's twenty eight years old, grew up a single mom.

1008
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 10: I'm pretty sure his father was incarcerated for most of

1009
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 10: his life. He interned at Google I want to say

1010
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 10: he entered at Facebook, and then the last year before

1011
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 10: he graduated from college, he interned at the White House.

1012
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 10: And it comes home and he says to his mother,

1013
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 10: I want to go into politics. And she's like, uh uh.

1014
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 10: She's like, you're the one who's going to get us

1015
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 10: out of here, and he said, no, I think this

1016
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 10: is my calling. He joined the city council in Stockton

1017
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 10: I want to say twenty two. He became mayor when

1018
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 10: he was twenty six. And he's this unbelievable force, and

1019
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 10: through philanthropy, he just in the last month has implemented

1020
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 10: universal basic income.

1021
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 6: There.

1022
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 11: So there's not a clear answer yet.

1023
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 6: Philanthropy maybe is, but the.

1024
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 10: Problem is it can't just be philanthropy because that's like

1025
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 10: this system has been so gamed that we're then supposed

1026
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 10: to say, oh, thank you so much, Microsoft for giving

1027
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 10: us these crumbs and these pennies on the side. The

1028
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 10: answer isn't corporate America bad. Individuals are good. Government and

1029
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 10: corporate America have to find a way to work together

1030
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 10: or we are going to turn into the Third World.

1031
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 6: Do you think that corporate America should pay their taxes?

1032
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 10: That mean corporate America should pay their taxes, But that's

1033
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 10: not the issue. Corporate America isn't evil for paying zero taxes.

1034
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 10: They're legally gaming.

1035
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 11: The system, right, So it's a a system changed.

1036
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 10: So change the system, okay, as long as every company

1037
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 10: has a need for a tax department, as long as

1038
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 10: someone is a tax lawyer. As long as the tax

1039
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 10: system is so complicated that sophisticated, wealthy people can use

1040
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 10: loophole after loophole to pay nothing and regular people can't,

1041
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 10: then the system doesn't work. So when they cut the

1042
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 10: corporate tax rate from thirty nine percent to twenty one percent,

1043
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 10: do you know what, really rich people did turn themselves

1044
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 10: into corporations, So now they pay twenty one percent corporations

1045
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 10: before the tax cut, we're paying too much, So it

1046
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 10: should be.

1047
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 5: Exactly shut up whatever, no good.

1048
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 10: The answer is we've got to find a way. When

1049
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 10: President Trump said make America great again for everyone at

1050
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 10: this table or for a women, you could say like

1051
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 10: that phrase is rooted in racism because for women and minorities.

1052
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 9: No, that was it wasn't great for us. We don't

1053
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 9: want to go back in town like black people don't

1054
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 9: own a time trap.

1055
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 10: But I'll tell you what things used to be for

1056
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 10: many people. The disparity between the boss and the worker

1057
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 10: pay has never been great as great as it was now.

1058
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 10: It used to be like this and we're on the radio,

1059
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 10: so I shouldn't just use my hands or only speaking

1060
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 10: of no visual It has grown massively. We have to

1061
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 10: figure out a way to shrink that. So when they

1062
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 10: gave that big tax cut, instead of just giving it

1063
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 10: and hoping, hey, you're going to give people a raise.

1064
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 10: If you gave that tax cut, there should have been

1065
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 10: stipulations around worker pay. But I'll tell you one more

1066
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 10: thing and then I promise we could change the subject.

1067
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 10: Here's the issue. It is not a CEO's job. It's

1068
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 10: not his job to do right by the community and

1069
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 10: to do right by his employees. He should or she should,

1070
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 10: but as his fiducia. As a fiduciary, his job is

1071
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 10: to make money. It is to make money for his shareholder.

1072
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 10: It's to sell products. If you want to change the

1073
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 10: rules of the game, giddy up, let's change them.

1074
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 11: But given what the rules are, you can't.

1075
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 10: Let's say we were all shareholders in Questlove LLC, and

1076
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 10: Questlove decided tomorrow, Hey, guys.

1077
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 6: Do a mirror.

1078
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 10: Let's say we're all investors in a mere LLC and

1079
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 10: tomorrow Amir says, guess what I've decided. I'm going to

1080
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 10: take thirty percent of our profits and before I pay

1081
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 10: it back to you, I'm going to start a foundation

1082
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 10: and I'm going to give it to kids that I

1083
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 10: want to in Philadelphia. And then I'm going to turn

1084
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 10: this studio into I'm going to only use green energy.

1085
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 10: And the six of us sitting here could say, damn right,

1086
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 10: you won't. That's my money. I'm your investor. You don't

1087
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 10: get to pick to do the right thing. You don't

1088
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 10: get to pick to go green. That's my money. You're

1089
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 10: going to give it back to me, and then I'm

1090
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 10: going to decide what I do with it. So we're

1091
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 10: sitting here with our arms folded demanding that corporate America

1092
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 10: quote unquote do the right thing. Then the answer is

1093
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 10: change the rules of the game of what the right

1094
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 10: thing is. Now, with people like Alexandra Ocasio Cortes getting elected,

1095
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 10: that shows that there are more voters saying maybe I

1096
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 10: want something different, With millennials saying I only want to

1097
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 10: do business or buy products from companies whose values I support,

1098
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 10: maybe you're gonna start to see difference.

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00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 11: My concern is those things are only happening at the margin.

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00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: Yes, once you start really auditing, you know, it's funny.

1101
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 9: Because it's president it is because people only do the

1102
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 9: right thing after they try everything else.

1103
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: Because once you really start auditing the companies that you

1104
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: support in the smallest ways, whether it's the cereal that

1105
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: you eat or the stocks that you yeah, because you'll

1106
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: start seeing it's funny because they are starting to learn

1107
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: the politics of these corporations or presidents and things of

1108
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: that nature. And it's kind of ill because you have

1109
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: to make these decisions like do I stop doing what

1110
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: I've been doing for ten years because now I know

1111
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: something that I people didn't used to know ten years ago.

1112
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 10: But do you reward the companies that do the right thing.

1113
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 10: And here's why I ask.

1114
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 6: So.

1115
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 10: Just today I sat down with Ed Stack. Ed Sack

1116
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 10: is the CEO of Dick Sporting Goods. Dick Sporting Goods

1117
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 10: is based in Pittsburgh. If you remember, it'll be a

1118
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 10: year ago Thursday, after the Parkland shooting, they said we're

1119
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 10: not going to sell assault rifles anymore. Okay, that's a

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00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 10: big deal. That's a company based in Pittsburgh with huge

1121
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 10: hunting business. They went to their sales dropped, I want

1122
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 10: to say, just under, just like four percent. And here's

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00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 10: what I want to know. All those activist groups who

1124
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 10: stand up and say, let's boycott this company, let's boycott

1125
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 10: that company, and they all stand not they all many

1126
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 10: people get righteous and indignant and they say, this company

1127
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 10: doesn't stand for my values.

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00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 11: I'm boycotting them.

1129
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 10: I want to know, on the other side, when a

1130
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 10: company stands up and makes a move that's around culture

1131
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 10: or social justice, definitely, where are those groups lining up

1132
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 10: to go buy products there?

1133
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 9: We're looking for something to boycott and with the yeah company,

1134
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 9: but the people company, But the people who were.

1135
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: Around they still I think the people who were boycotting

1136
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: with them still see that and go back. I mean

1137
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: I remember I hate to use Target as an example,

1138
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: but targeted during Hurricane Katrina. Right, they did all this stuff,

1139
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: they gave whatever that I remember that and that state

1140
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 2: my mind until you know, they fucked up everybody's debit

1141
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: card situation. But still.

1142
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 10: We need to remember gratitude and forgiveness because this is

1143
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 10: an angry, divided time and we're quick to get mad

1144
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 10: and quick to say I'm done with you, I'm finished

1145
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 10: with you when someone does something we support.

1146
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 6: You're also one of the few journalists that I know

1147
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 6: that actually takes a portion of your show to say,

1148
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 6: here's some good things.

1149
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: Power respect.

1150
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 5: That's the thing.

1151
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 6: And the thing is is that no one's ever going

1152
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 6: to report the good news like I didn't know about.

1153
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 6: I think that's admirable that Dick Sporting Goods did that,

1154
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 6: But I don't think we're in society that necessarily will

1155
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 6: throw a ticket tape parade because someone helped my grandmother

1156
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 6: across the street today.

1157
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 10: Let's find a way to do that. And the truth

1158
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 10: is right, so people always I'm going to get it wrong.

1159
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 10: A newspaper is something like right. And we do love

1160
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 10: train wrecks, we do love reality shows, we love the

1161
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 10: world Wrestling Federation. But we have to find a way,

1162
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 10: not in some Pollyanna way, but at the margins to

1163
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 10: celebrate good things.

1164
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 5: But is it also okay?

1165
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 6: You remember the Chris Rock joke where he's like, uh,

1166
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 6: Fithers always want credit for something this. Yeah, I was

1167
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 6: actually gonna bring that up.

1168
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 11: Tell me, tell me no.

1169
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 10: No, I mean like when dad say I'm babysitting my kids. Exactly,

1170
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 10: You're watching your offspring.

1171
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 6: Your jobs, supposed to my keys, you supposed to take

1172
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 6: care of your key. So it's it's but could that

1173
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 6: also be the case, like.

1174
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Speaker 2: You should give bad company. Yeah, you know, it's not

1175
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 2: a big deal, you should.

1176
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 6: I mean, but in what ways would you feel that

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01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 6: it's more prudent or beneficial for said protesters to let

1178
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 6: us know that it's great to shop at Dix again?

1179
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 11: Listen, you you watch those protests.

1180
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 10: You watch those protest groups go off on social media

1181
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 10: and say I'm done with this company instead.

1182
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 11: Great.

1183
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 10: Fine, Then when I don't know, Father's Day comes around,

1184
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 10: I want to see that same handle, say great, Dick's

1185
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 10: dorky golf shoes.

1186
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see. But Sey, I think what you're saying,

1187
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: that's a whole nother round because we all know, and

1188
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: you know this even better than we do. There are

1189
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 2: organizations that are just for protesting, like, uh, even with

1190
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 2: black people black Lives Matter. Black Lives Matter is particularly

1191
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: a protest organization, right, so they might not be the

1192
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 2: ones that are gonna come back afterwards and be like, so,

1193
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: you know, now we can support da DA It seems

1194
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: like it needs to be in some ore entities that

1195
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: do that clean up on the back end.

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01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 10: Yes, I'm just saying there has to be a way

1197
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 10: to find goodness and push the goodness forward because otherwise

1198
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 10: we're just anger on top of anger, and I know

1199
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 10: that every day.

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01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 6: But there's a lot of unresolved issues, a lot I

1201
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 6: feel like. I think in the case of the Parkland

1202
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 6: shooting time, Yes, whenever there is a shooting and an occurrence,

1203
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 6: the one question that no one ever seems to bring

1204
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 6: up in you know, whenever these problems arise, that I

1205
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 6: never seemed to hear is the reasoning behind wanting arm

1206
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 6: to be armed, of which no one is really going

1207
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 6: to talk about. You know, the reason why arms are

1208
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 6: used in the first place was for slaves to keep

1209
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 6: slaves in the line, to keep them from running away.

1210
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 5: Like we know, get to that part of the conversation.

1211
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: That's like our part. They don't get to our parts

1212
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: of the conversation, which is kind of like the best

1213
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: thing that I feel like.

1214
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 6: The history of the gun in America starts with what

1215
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 6: were they used for? And it's almost like the white elephant, that.

1216
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: Do we talk about.

1217
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 6: What dogs was used for? I mean, shit, I mean.

1218
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 2: They used to chase black people, and you know, that's

1219
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: what it was all about. But that's fine, you know,

1220
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 2: I get that.

1221
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I know they did. I don't I don't

1222
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 6: fuck with dollars though Zara's not still happy with these answers.

1223
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 6: But my point is that my point is that I

1224
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 6: don't know if I would say, hey, okay, well dick'porting

1225
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 6: Goods did right by us, so go buy rifle. Like

1226
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 6: I personally, I mean, I don't want to put my

1227
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 6: personal beliefs on people. But you know, wait, wait, let

1228
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 6: me let me, let me backtrack. You're from the down South,

1229
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 6: uh fante. Now, I was very shocked at Big Mike's

1230
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 6: the killer the warning thing, yeah, killer killer Mike's position

1231
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 6: about wanting to be armed, and he felt he you know,

1232
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 6: he's a doctor. Second second memorized teaches his daughter how

1233
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 6: to do it. But I understand the lifestyle of which

1234
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 6: he grew up in under the Mason Dixon line down south,

1235
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 6: that that's necessary. That's a necessity for him. In your

1236
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 6: experiences in North Carolina, do you feel that you need

1237
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 6: to be armed or.

1238
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 9: Not really because you just don't necessarily dwell where you feel. Yeah,

1239
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 9: I mean, I mean, listen, well, I don't know if

1240
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 9: this is a dwelling thing.

1241
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 6: I mean for us.

1242
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 9: Like so for my my earliest experience with guns, my

1243
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 9: granddaddy had a shotgun he kept like right behind the bed.

1244
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1245
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 9: You had like a rifle back there, and I mean

1246
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 9: just in casey. Yeah, I guess your grandparents, I think, Yeah,

1247
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:04,959
Speaker 9: all these granddaddy's had.

1248
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 2: To gun grandmattle pistols.

1249
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, so my grand my granddaddy had the gun.

1250
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 9: And I mean, like all my homies they pops had

1251
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 9: like shotguns or whatever. But it wasn't a thing of

1252
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 9: where like if you felt like you needed to, like

1253
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 9: if you were in danger or whatever, that you felt

1254
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 9: like you had to carry a gun. When I was

1255
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 9: coming up, it just wasn't It just wasn't that if

1256
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 9: it was really somebody, if you was just a regular dude,

1257
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 9: and my regular dude, if you was just a dude

1258
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 9: that just went to school, just you know, just you

1259
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 9: was just a regular cat.

1260
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 6: If you had problems with somebody, you just damn y'all

1261
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 6: just scrapped.

1262
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: But in twenty nineteen, if you.

1263
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 9: Had guns, like if the niggas I knew they had guns,

1264
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 9: they was like all the duds in the streets.

1265
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,479
Speaker 2: So but in twenty nineteen, fast forward, do you feel

1266
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: like I feel like I know more people regular as

1267
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: we like to say that have at least something in

1268
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 2: the house. Not did you carry, but at least.

1269
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 9: Something, Yeah, something in the house. Yeah, I mean I

1270
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 9: know some I got like one home. You just got

1271
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 9: like a ton of fucking guns. I've always wanted to

1272
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 9: ask those people, how often have you had to use

1273
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 9: the gun the youth? Yeah, that you just having you

1274
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 9: go to.

1275
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: The gun range, just make sure the muscles still work.

1276
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, Because the thing is even with that, like when

1277
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 9: people say it's for home defense, Like I don't think

1278
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 9: people understand like how quick that ship jump off? Dude, Like,

1279
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 9: so unless you just walk around your house and your

1280
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 9: god damns with your gun you up under the on

1281
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 9: the top shelf, up under all them books. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1282
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 9: like they read like niggas. Man the other night, like

1283
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 9: we was in I was up one night this was

1284
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 9: this was like there's a couple of weeks ago. So

1285
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 9: I'm in the crib and I'm just up late, and

1286
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 9: you know, it's I'm just in my regular hours. It's

1287
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 9: like maybe like three four in the morning, and so

1288
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 9: our motion to tept to light comes on outside.

1289
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 6: So but we live around like woods and ship. So

1290
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 6: it's I'm thinking animal.

1291
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 9: It could have been an animal, it could have been

1292
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 9: a rand cause it could have been any kind of ship.

1293
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 9: And so I go and I open, like just look

1294
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 9: in the window and it's like a kid. It looks

1295
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 9: literally like my son outside, right, so like my older son.

1296
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 9: I got two boys, eighteen thirteen, so I'm seeing what

1297
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 9: looks exactly like my son.

1298
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 6: So my first thinking, I'm just I was like, why

1299
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 6: is my son outside?

1300
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 5: At four?

1301
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 9: Them like what hold the fuck up? And then it

1302
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 9: clicks on me, so I like look at the window.

1303
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 9: I tap and homie, look, I run outside. What the

1304
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 9: fuck y'all doing? These niggas take off running? It was

1305
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 9: two It was these kids.

1306
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 6: So because we live like by high school. So what

1307
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 6: it is?

1308
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 9: It is these these fucking idiots. No, they won't even

1309
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 9: smoke it. They do this shit where they just go

1310
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 9: to cars and they don't even break in the car.

1311
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 9: They don't steal this cap, just try to damn try

1312
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 9: to if it's something unlocked. If the car is nun locked,

1313
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 9: they see if it's a lot, and then try to

1314
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 9: go and get something out of the car. So I

1315
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 9: run outside and like like run them off. And then

1316
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 9: I'm thinking, but I ain't got no gun. We mean,

1317
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 9: I'm not even thinking to go get a gun on knife.

1318
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 9: I'm just like, what the fuck y'all niggas do? So

1319
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 9: I run out, they run off. So then it becomes

1320
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 9: a whole nother thing because now I'm like, okay, do

1321
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 9: I want to call the police, because then these niggas

1322
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 9: might get shot. So it's like, you know what I mean,

1323
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 9: I wish we did so, but it's like these are

1324
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 9: the levels whenever people talk that gun ship, I'm like, dog,

1325
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 9: but you know that y'all ain't really been in no

1326
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 9: smoke before.

1327
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 2: Because you go the wrong house, well, yeah, you don't

1328
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: want you. They was lucky they went to your house.

1329
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 9: You was like, yeah, because like the white dude was

1330
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 9: the next to me, I think that got a RC

1331
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 9: He could have you know, he could have let up

1332
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 9: what it was a thing where it was.

1333
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 6: It was just like, dude, like I'm looking at this

1334
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 6: ship and it's just like, Yo.

1335
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 9: First of all, I'm like, Okay, y'all are fucking idiots,

1336
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 9: because who the fuck try to breaking cars in a

1337
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 9: cul de sac nigga.

1338
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 6: It ain't but one way in, one way out.

1339
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 2: So y'all ain't that fucking suburban boy?

1340
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 9: I'm like, y'all ain't really about that action, you know

1341
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 9: what I mean. So I came out and like we

1342
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 9: called police or whatever. I'm just like, look what they

1343
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 9: look like. I'm like, I just they had on hoods.

1344
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 9: I don't know, but yeah. So and even in moments

1345
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 9: like that, like me and my wife we talked, Yo,

1346
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 9: so do you think it's time to get a gun?

1347
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 6: I was like, well that was a one yes, Like

1348
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 6: I don't, I don't know.

1349
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 9: It just ain't that again, unless you just gonna be

1350
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 9: a commando nigga that just walk around in your boxes

1351
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 9: with a gun just while you eat your fucking corn.

1352
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 6: Your face props it. Yeah, Like, are you describing to

1353
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 6: Omar right now for the yeah on bacon? Dude?

1354
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 9: I just don't, yeah, And I just don't live my

1355
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 9: life in a way that like that requires that I

1356
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 9: find a thing.

1357
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1358
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 10: So when you were just speaking, I was thinking, So

1359
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 10: this morning, my son, who's twelve, was pressing my husband

1360
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 10: and I that the music we let him listen to

1361
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 10: we have it on a filter that he can only

1362
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 10: listen to the clean version of songs cool, And he's

1363
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 10: complaining he's twelve, and he's like, I don't want to

1364
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 10: listen to the clean version. That means there's lots of

1365
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 10: songs I can't listen to, blah blah blah. What's the

1366
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 10: reason why I can't?

1367
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 11: And I can't? Really, I didn't really have a good answer.

1368
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 10: It requires a history lesson right, so right here, right,

1369
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 10: So I didn't really have a good answer. And so

1370
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 10: while you're sitting here speaking, and I'm going thinking about

1371
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 10: my son listening to this, because obviously is going to

1372
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 10: want to listen to it, he's gonna have a conversation

1373
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,520
Speaker 10: with me after again about.

1374
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 11: The N word.

1375
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 2: I knew that's where you were going, So I want

1376
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:07,759
Speaker 2: you to help.

1377
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 10: Me right, because there's been all these conversations that lack

1378
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 10: education or that lack nuance, and now people are giving

1379
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 10: the wrong answer.

1380
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 11: I want you to honestly help me with, like what's

1381
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 11: my right?

1382
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 12: No?

1383
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 10: No, no, obviously they can't, But what's obviously and what?

1384
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 10: And when you're speaking to children who can only who

1385
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 10: are like?

1386
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 2: Who's funny?

1387
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 11: From my heart and mine couldn't be more.

1388
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 2: Understand And it's funny because I would have thought that

1389
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have been serious until a week ago when

1390
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: I was sitting randomly sitting with them, a white mom

1391
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 2: who had like a one year old son, and I

1392
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 2: thought it was funny the cover of the Esquire magazine

1393
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: about the white boy, and she said, but no, seriously, though,

1394
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 2: what do I tell my son? How do I raise

1395
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 2: my son in this world and tell him how to react?

1396
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 2: And I thought it was such an interesting conversation because

1397
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 2: you know, black people have been doing this all our lives.

1398
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: You know, we've had to extra nurture, extra education, and

1399
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: so now it's time for white people to extra educate,

1400
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 2: extra nurture and teach about culture. And a lot of times,

1401
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: I know it sucks for you guys, because you weren't

1402
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 2: a lot of people like her. She wasn't taught a

1403
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 2: lot of things, so she doesn't like she doesn't have

1404
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 2: the answer to that question, the history of the N

1405
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: word and everything else. So that's all I was going

1406
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: to say. I said, I just wanted to say in

1407
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 2: that moment that I'm taking this conversation very seriously now

1408
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: when I used to kind of laugh, but now you

1409
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 2: have to help about helping word.

1410
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 6: All right, So here's the thing with white people and

1411
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 6: and niggas a look talk about it.

1412
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 9: Look, dude, this ship is real easy. Look like you

1413
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 9: can't in the terms of music. So just on the

1414
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 9: base level, like we're talking to your son about explicit lyrics.

1415
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 9: What I went through with my son like when they

1416
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 9: were when they were younger, my whole thing was, I mean,

1417
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 9: because I make music. So my whole thing was now again,

1418
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 9: when I I was you know, in when I was

1419
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 9: a kid, you could buy the clean version from kmart

1420
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 9: or whatever, and the only way you could hear the

1421
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 9: explicit version was if your homie had the tape or

1422
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 9: if a cousin had the tape or whatever. So there

1423
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 9: was some kind of separation. Now we all all into

1424
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 9: the same Internet, there is no separation, so it's very yeah,

1425
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 9: don't pay for none of the shit. So the thing

1426
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 9: now is trying to limit them to the clean versions

1427
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 9: of something. It really is just kind of a moot point,

1428
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 9: because I mean they can if you google that one song,

1429
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 9: I promise you the clean version ain't gonna be the

1430
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 9: one to come up, so you know what I mean.

1431
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 9: So my thing was always, well, listen if I know

1432
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 9: y'all gonna listen to this fuck shit. So yeah, I

1433
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 9: was like, I know y'all gonna listen to this bullshit,

1434
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 9: so listen to it with me and we can have

1435
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 9: a conversation about what this really means. Because also too,

1436
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 9: there's another level where y'all thinking about like the you know,

1437
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 9: from the racial aspect and a lot of that hip

1438
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 9: hop shit. It's a lot of gang references in gang culture.

1439
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 9: And I'm like, Homie, when when my son was.

1440
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 6: A kid, well that too. But then even like the

1441
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 6: ship before, like.

1442
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 9: Blank Wayne when he was like it was blood like,

1443
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 9: so it's a lot of like coded language and that

1444
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 9: ship they don't know that they don't know, And I'm like, Homie,

1445
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 9: you you say that ship in the wrong place, You're

1446
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 9: gonna get fucked up. So my thing was, I just

1447
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 9: need to have a conversation with you, so y'all know

1448
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 9: exactly what this is. You know what these references are?

1449
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,679
Speaker 9: Stan starts saying that they from Bompton.

1450
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 6: It's over, it's a.

1451
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 2: Wrap, like, YO, no know, but how does Stephanie. But

1452
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 2: that's ill because you knew these things, right. But Stephanie's

1453
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 2: trying to say too that she doesn't know all of

1454
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 2: these right.

1455
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 10: So just in general, somebody cares to put your you

1456
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 10: have to take yourself down the track of people who

1457
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 10: care less and less.

1458
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 6: And we listen forget the moral stance up should we

1459
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 6: say should we not say it?

1460
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 5: Should we listen to it and not listen to it?

1461
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 10: Like could even say that right now, we're in canceled guards.

1462
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 5: We're in cancel culture.

1463
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: We're we live and cancel, cancel, cancel our can canceled,

1464
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: We cancel him.

1465
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,759
Speaker 6: But this is how social media works. We're in cancel culture.

1466
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 6: And we're also in in beat you down now and

1467
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 6: ask questions later right there.

1468
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 10: And I don't want to be I want to find

1469
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 10: a way to be in a forgiveness culture and at

1470
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 10: least here and get smarter and think more.

1471
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 9: Well, I would just say with the kids, I mean,

1472
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 9: I wouldn't personally limit them to the clean version just

1473
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 9: because that's just gonna make them want the dirty shit

1474
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 9: even more. So My thing is just like, all right,

1475
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 9: we're gonna listen to the dirty ship, but let's listen

1476
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 9: to what explain and explain like what it's about. And

1477
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 9: when it just comes to saying niggas like Homie, you

1478
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 9: just can't say that ship like I understand this show.

1479
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 9: You might listen to the jams and you can even

1480
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 9: if you say it in your room. You might say

1481
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,919
Speaker 9: it in your room, and I know, like it's unfair

1482
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 9: if it's a call and response.

1483
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 6: If he go to a show and.

1484
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 5: You know, my favorite part of a jay Z concert is.

1485
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 6: I've seen eighteen jay Z shows and literally when that

1486
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 6: ship starts to the widest part and just look at him,

1487
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 6: like I still do to this day, look like you're

1488
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 6: gonna say it.

1489
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 9: You're gonna say it, Homie, Yeah you got You just

1490
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,560
Speaker 9: have to explain to him, like yo, dog, Like I

1491
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 9: know the rappers are saying it, and I know you

1492
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 9: might want to say you might even say it in

1493
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 9: your head. But if you say this outside, like in

1494
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 9: the world, like you could get sucked up, just their consequences,

1495
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 9: consequences that ship.

1496
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 5: Okay, well you're done.

1497
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 6: I think I did I answer the question, Stephen, was

1498
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 6: that that makes sense. I appreciate it.

1499
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 5: Actually, uh, Steph, well that's what I wanted my.

1500
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 10: But you answered it, and I want to because it

1501
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 10: speaks to exactly this cancel culture, this beat up and

1502
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 10: give an answer later. And for me, the goal in

1503
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 10: twenty nineteen should get out of cancel culture and figure

1504
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 10: out a way to say. I might disagree with you,

1505
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 10: but I hear you and I see you, because right

1506
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 10: now we're not giving one another.

1507
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 2: You're gonna do that stuff. You're gonna do that to arc,

1508
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 2: You're gonna listen here, I'm seeing what you got to say.

1509
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 6: What you doing.

1510
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 11: She hasn't been peen on.

1511
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 10: I mean some people like.

1512
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 6: No love.

1513
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 9: The thing the thing with cancel culture too. I mean,

1514
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 9: I agree with what you're saying, and I don't think.

1515
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 9: I don't think gonna get another shot.

1516
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 5: But we talked to the.

1517
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 9: Fact that the woman from the daycare building out yeah yeah, yeah,

1518
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 9: here a white lady that owns a daycare that is Alabama. Nah,

1519
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 9: she white, Well, she well, you know what. I saw

1520
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 9: footage of her in the in the in the McDonald's.

1521
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 9: She looked white. She owns she importantly, she owns nine businesses.

1522
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 2: Okay, what what's what is?

1523
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 10: What is R Kelly's new work? Like it was like,

1524
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 10: should R Kelly be around him? Like I don't know

1525
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 10: since ignition, I'm nothing.

1526
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 2: But they wanted to be total canceled like today and

1527
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 2: yesterday's work. It's not just about today, it's about erasure.

1528
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 9: Eracis well, yeah, the checks up coming. His last few

1529
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 9: albums have sold nothing.

1530
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he made so much money they shouldn't even matter.

1531
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 6: Boy, I think I didn't listen till all nineteen minutes

1532
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 6: of that song I did. What did he admit that

1533
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 6: he sold his publishing? He admitted, so, he admitted he

1534
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 6: sold his publishing. That he uh, he admitted he's he

1535
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 6: can't read. He admitted he's.

1536
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 5: Illiterate, but he sold his publishing.

1537
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 9: That's what he said in the Valuable Acid because he

1538
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 9: probably had to. Like, man, y'all understand, bro, like for

1539
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 9: you to that's the terminal trial. Five years I understand that.

1540
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 9: Five years of goddamn Billable album.

1541
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 10: I mean to say, he can't afford his legal bills.

1542
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 10: There's no Trump super pack paying them.

1543
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 9: Likes weren't that good? I mean they were probably good.

1544
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 9: They were probably even if they were slow. You don't

1545
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 9: piss on cheering, so they've been good for you. But

1546
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 9: I'm just saying, you know, if you got to keep

1547
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,520
Speaker 9: paying off parents and ship every damn quarters.

1548
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 6: And I know that, I know that publishing checks are

1549
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 6: really a three time a year thing, right, kind.

1550
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 11: Of can't imagine that he's got any money?

1551
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 6: No, well, definitely not because I initially thought, like, Okay,

1552
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 6: well when he gets arrested a million dollars this one

1553
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 6: hundred thousand, yeah, I believe I can. Yeah, he can

1554
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 6: come it off.

1555
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 9: And I couldn't believe that she you know, yeah, I

1556
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 9: think I think it was the picture I saw when

1557
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 9: she was with him, and the when he went to McDonald's.

1558
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 6: That's first thing he did. She owns the McDonalds owns it.

1559
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 6: She just went to him. He went to the rock

1560
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 6: and roll McDonald's. He got out, he went to he

1561
01:18:55,360 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 6: he went it is he went. He went to the

1562
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 6: rock and roll McDonald's like it, presumably to get a.

1563
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 11: Macrib and what's the rock and roll McDonald's.

1564
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 6: That's the biggest McDonald's in Chicago. It's like it's like

1565
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 6: Wily World, like Chicago. It's like a club in there

1566
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 6: at night.

1567
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's like a city block.

1568
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 6: It's the biggest McDonald's in the south Side, No like downtown,

1569
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 6: like off of Michigan Avenue. A few times.

1570
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 10: I just don't understand how these women continue to be

1571
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 10: in his web.

1572
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 6: I think much like it's much like much like Trump,

1573
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 6: much like your Trump waitress. R. Kelly came and talked

1574
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 6: to him. He like he was. He came, he I

1575
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 6: saw you, and now you know it was That's what

1576
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 6: it was offered.

1577
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 10: Doesn't that take us right back to this cancel culture.

1578
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 10: Look at these people who are rising, whether it's a

1579
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 10: Trump having his following on R Kelly, see someone hear them.

1580
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know if I need to hear Trump

1581
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 9: or Kelly, but the supporters, the people support those two.

1582
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 10: But all those people out.

1583
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 2: There that want to be seen in her, that are

1584
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 2: the ones that are falling victim to.

1585
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 6: Oh that's falling, okay, gotcha, one's getting finished.

1586
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1587
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 6: So yeah, so I don't know. I think he's I

1588
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 6: think he might actually see some time. I don't know.

1589
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 10: Did you watch fire Festival?

1590
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 12: I did that.

1591
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 6: It was great.

1592
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:28,919
Speaker 9: Which which of the two? Because I watched the neat

1593
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 9: way better than yeah, the Netflix Netflix one.

1594
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 10: How did that happen?

1595
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 9: Yo?

1596
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 6: It was the was to me that is one of

1597
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 6: the most Yo.

1598
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 9: It's social media, and it's a story of just how

1599
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 9: in America you can sell any kind of bullshit as

1600
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 9: long as you package it right.

1601
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 10: Except all of the except for the main guy, all

1602
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 10: those people like how did they not say, like, this

1603
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 10: thing isn't gonna work. I'm out?

1604
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 6: I think it was what So my t was, yo,

1605
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 6: and the people who were early on I've been everything.

1606
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 9: It was kind of almost like to make a financial parallel,

1607
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 9: like the banking crisis, I think there are a lot

1608
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 9: of people or then the housing crisis. I think it

1609
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 9: was a lot of people that knew that ship wasn't

1610
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 9: gonna work, Like they saw what was coming, but they

1611
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 9: was like, Yo, this ship is gonna fall down, but

1612
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 9: if I can get what I can get out of

1613
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 9: it before, then fuck it.

1614
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 6: But they knew that ship wasn't gonna work. They saw

1615
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 6: hell Mary pass and just pray to god. Lynn Swan

1616
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,480
Speaker 6: was at the end reference odel.

1617
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 5: With one hand.

1618
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 9: They had no because the thing is when Homemie, the

1619
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 9: key part to me was when your man was in

1620
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 9: the heavy not not the dick sucking water dude, you

1621
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 9: see it. I saw the planner dude when he was

1622
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 9: like most festivals take like a year, he was like

1623
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 9: most like if you know, they take a year, he said,

1624
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 9: when they told me I had six weeks to feed

1625
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 9: and do all this ship, dude, you knew this ship.

1626
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:58,759
Speaker 6: It was goddamn g Think.

1627
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 11: About all those vendors there still never got paid.

1628
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, the lady did get up. They raised the uh

1629
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 6: for the main woman that lost like fifty thousand bucks,

1630
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 6: they uh, what do you call it?

1631
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 10: A go fundme go?

1632
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, they go funded her.

1633
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 6: But why did we have to pay for that?

1634
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 12: Why didn't what's his name?

1635
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 6: Jerry?

1636
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 2: Fuck Jerry?

1637
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 12: Who still make it breaking in money?

1638
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1639
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 9: Because because then so was coming from it became fu Jerry.

1640
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 9: That was like the new hashtag. It became fuck fuck Jerry.

1641
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 9: And I think I think they took a little hit.

1642
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: Said hey, I bring that John back though he said

1643
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: that day and after fifty.

1644
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 9: Cent gonna buy up all the tickets. Soty when he

1645
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 9: come out that's not fraud. That's not fraud.

1646
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 6: It was like.

1647
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 11: That was how does Jo Rul come out of it?

1648
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 10: Scared?

1649
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 6: Because because miss the nineties? I think, I'm sorry, he's

1650
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 6: not a nineties rapper, he's an arts rapper. I don't know.

1651
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 9: I think the documentary kind of painted him to be

1652
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 9: a kind of a victim of the whole situation too,

1653
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 9: where they just kind of used his his image to

1654
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 9: pull off this festival.

1655
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 6: I mean, it's not that he's not.

1656
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 10: I agree, he's not, like.

1657
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 6: You know, completely blame free because he should have done

1658
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 6: his due diligence.

1659
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 10: But that's it, Like, I agree, like we over use

1660
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 10: this word victim. A victim is somebody who's walking down

1661
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 10: a street who gets attacked in a gang initiation. A

1662
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 10: victim is not somebody who closes his eyes and closes

1663
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 10: his ears and lifts his champagne. Last to that point,

1664
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 10: like jar U looks at himself like I was a

1665
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 10: victim here, No, come on.

1666
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 6: Now, I believe again. I love doing the Ray Croc

1667
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 6: versus Ronald McDonald thing. I think he was just Ronald

1668
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 6: McDonald really not knowing what Ray Croc was up to

1669
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 6: behind him. And you don't agree with.

1670
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 5: Me, he's there.

1671
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 12: No, I think he could have given some of his

1672
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 12: money to that woman that owned that bar.

1673
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 5: I don't think he has money.

1674
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 6: What you're saying he did two years in jail for

1675
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 6: tax evasions.

1676
01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 10: Oh that's right.

1677
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 9: And I'm sure any money that he quote unquote earned,

1678
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:03,759
Speaker 9: I'm sure got he probably.

1679
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, you're right.

1680
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know.

1681
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 6: Should we haven't won the show one that?

1682
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 4: Yes?

1683
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 6: No, I love what's one?

1684
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: What were talking about either one of them? Like the stories?

1685
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 2: Good story?

1686
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 6: I like good story the nigga. Look, I was not

1687
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 6: a murdering fan listen, like I mean, I.

1688
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 9: Respect was about the time you guys signed Vanessa Carlton. Yeah,

1689
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 9: what happened with that Vita album?

1690
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 6: Like yeah, I just wasn't. I don't know. I wasn't

1691
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 6: a fan like that. I respect the movement. They had hits.

1692
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 6: I can't knocket, but I never thought none of that.

1693
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 6: She was hot.

1694
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 2: I didn't need to start this story anyway. Can we

1695
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 2: ask fun the m SMBC questions? I've been waiting. I

1696
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: just want to Yeah, okay, because we were talking about

1697
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: this earlier.

1698
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 5: Wanted to no no good.

1699
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 2: First of all, the aspect of having two shows on

1700
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: M S, N b C. Can we talk about that

1701
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 2: on the daily And how the fuck you do that

1702
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 2: with being somebody's wife and three people's mom?

1703
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 6: We never got to that was literally my first question,

1704
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 6: and we this is this has been a rabbit hole.

1705
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 2: You're right.

1706
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 6: All I wanted to say was, in addition to having

1707
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 6: to deal with pundits all day, you still have to

1708
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 6: be a mom and a wife.

1709
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 5: How do you balance it? Like I could get to

1710
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:26,799
Speaker 5: don Okay.

1711
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 10: Here's the thing, but anyone like and all of us,

1712
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 10: none of us were ever balanced, right, People who are

1713
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 10: grinders and overachievers have never like achieved something and.

1714
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 11: Been like, whoof you know? I'm all set and I

1715
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 11: think that, uh, these are blessings, right.

1716
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 10: I'm so lucky to have this moment, to have this time,

1717
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 10: to be a news, to have this opportunity, to be

1718
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 10: married to somebody who hasn't kicked me out, and to

1719
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 10: have three kids who are all standing and tying their

1720
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 10: shoes and all work it out.

1721
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 5: Can I ask you a question?

1722
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 12: Yes?

1723
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 6: Okay, So, so if a certain unnamed network, sugar network

1724
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 6: starts with the F a certain unspeakable network comes to

1725
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 6: you with the bag No, but you can still be yourself.

1726
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 6: How could you do this? Wat But listen, listen, Okay,

1727
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 6: now correct me if I'm wrong. There is Murdoch's son's

1728
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 6: going to take over away because of their political because

1729
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 6: of their.

1730
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 11: Mur runs Fox News.

1731
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm I was hearing through the cheese line that

1732
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 6: Murdoch's sons weren't as extreme as you know, the Roger l.

1733
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 10: Sky were trying.

1734
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 5: They were trying to dilute it a little bit.

1735
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 10: And then when they were trying to buy Sky, what

1736
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 10: they were trying to do is not have the huge

1737
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 10: sexual harassment issues, right, they didn't want to have. They

1738
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 10: weren't changing anything inside the company, but they didn't want

1739
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 10: to have massive sexual harassment headlines.

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01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 11: That was going to block that deal well.

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01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 6: But Sky also said like, we would never associate ourselves

1742
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,560
Speaker 6: with you because everyone thinks you're a joke. And it

1743
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 6: almost seemed like they said, well, we're what what do

1744
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 6: we have to do to have a real conversation.

1745
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 10: There's no reason for them to change what they make,

1746
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 10: and we're talking obviously about Fox News, right.

1747
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 11: Fox News has.

1748
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 10: No reason to change what they make because what they may,

1749
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 10: for me is extraordinarily successful for the people who watch it, right,

1750
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 10: there are the many people who watch it, you know,

1751
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 10: wear it like a badge of honor. Now they talk

1752
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 10: about other going to have to change to start to

1753
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 10: attract a younger demographic, because you know, they're the go

1754
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 10: to for that, you know, over the age of fifty,

1755
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 10: white male demographic, many of whom watch it.

1756
01:27:58,200 --> 01:27:59,799
Speaker 6: I just want to see a pair of calves.

1757
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 10: And more than that though, listen, I mean they they

1758
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 10: haven't skipped a beat in their success.

1759
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 11: Lots of people are watching Kennedy. Yeah, she's on them

1760
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 11: every morning, she is in the afternoon.

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01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 6: MTV, KEM, Fox News.

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01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 10: She's quite conservative, a little bit more of a libertarian

1763
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 10: than a than a conservative conservative.

1764
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 11: You know, she's a small government.

1765
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 6: I'd never watched Fox News unless I'm trapped in an airport.

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01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 10: They're they're great at what they make. And now if

1767
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 10: you're asking me if they if they walked in and said,

1768
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 10: I'd like to give you a pile of money and

1769
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 10: you could still make your thing, I don't think it

1770
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 10: would be a I don't see that happening because what

1771
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 10: I have to say wouldn't sell to their audience. And

1772
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:46,480
Speaker 10: now I don't necessarily have what you would call traditional,

1773
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 10: only progressive or only liberal views to me, like.

1774
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 5: Would you ask the right question?

1775
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,879
Speaker 11: But that's it, Like I'm just myself.

1776
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 10: I lean into I want to live the best life

1777
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 10: for my family, and I want my neighbors and my

1778
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 10: community to live their best. But that might mean I

1779
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 10: don't always align myself, you know, like let me make

1780
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 10: it easier to me. The most brutal place isn't cable news.

1781
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 11: It's social media.

1782
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 10: Because social media you don't ever get to actually speak

1783
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 10: your mind and be yourself. It's like performance art and

1784
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 10: the moment you're categorized as something you have to fit

1785
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 10: into this or suddenly I didn't know you were this,

1786
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 10: I leave you now, and you know, there's a really

1787
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 10: beautiful I wish I knew it. Off the top of

1788
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 10: my had Dave Chappelle quote that he gave a couple

1789
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 10: months ago where he said, when did the world get

1790
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 10: this messed up? Where everyone in your house you had

1791
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 10: to agree with? You only talk to people who were

1792
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 10: on the same side of everything, And he said, disagreement,

1793
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 10: even with the people closest to you, is what makes

1794
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 10: us great. This is when we lose heart and humor

1795
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 10: and we stop getting smarter and so there are people

1796
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 10: who are super liberal who don't like what I have

1797
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 10: to say. Unfortunately for them, they got no other network

1798
01:29:59,160 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 10: to go to.

1799
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 2: You say that they don't have more. Nicole Wallace's on

1800
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 2: Fox because I just gotta say, I love the way

1801
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 2: she has evolved as a Republican in her way of

1802
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 2: thought now that she's a Democrat. Now I don't think so,

1803
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 2: but just in her sense, and I feel like that

1804
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 2: kind of voice needs to be more president.

1805
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 10: Most people don't label themselves I'm a Republican, I'm a Democrat.

1806
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 10: We're all the same. We're all just trying to get

1807
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 10: She did.

1808
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 2: Because she was a ripe. I mean that was her

1809
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 2: correct job.

1810
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 10: But for most people out there, we're all just trying

1811
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 10: to live our best lives, get to our highest self,

1812
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 10: and the more we can focus on that and less

1813
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 10: on politics. Listen, if you were a single mother in

1814
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 10: the South Side of Chicago, would you say I identify

1815
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 10: myself as actual?

1816
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 6: Why? No, I didn't know. I side myself is trying

1817
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 6: to make my God damn.

1818
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 11: Rent, but that's exactly it.

1819
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 6: The thing is, though, is that I'm fine with disagreements.

1820
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 6: If the person disagreeing with me, I respect them, not

1821
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 6: even I respect them if they come with actual.

1822
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 10: Fact, right Boom, you nailed it now.

1823
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 6: Okay from a musical standpoint, okay, a music fan could

1824
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,759
Speaker 6: give me the prose of why slide in the Family Stones,

1825
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 6: there's a Ryte Coin on. It's such a monumentous, important

1826
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 6: moment and funk. But a person like me is kind

1827
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 6: of sad at that record because I feel guilty is

1828
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 6: celebrating the joy of someone who's.

1829
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 5: On heroin.

1830
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 6: I feel like it's watching a car accident. And I

1831
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 6: acknowledge it, you know, But I'm just saying that. I

1832
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 6: feel that both arguments are based in fact. However, a

1833
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 6: lot of the political arguments are just more about my

1834
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,560
Speaker 6: side's winning. My side's winning, and I don't know, I

1835
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 6: just feel as though I believe I'm on the side

1836
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 6: of the truth. Like when I watch Rachel Maddow, I

1837
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 6: don't feel as though she's trying to, you know, put

1838
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 6: me on her gin. I don't believe he hasn't a

1839
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 6: actually that she's revealing.

1840
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 10: Show you feel like you're at a college court. And

1841
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 10: I didn't watch Rachel before I got into political news.

1842
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:11,560
Speaker 10: I have to be perfectly honest. I don't have a

1843
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 10: great voting record in that it wasn't a priority in

1844
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 10: my life, and now that I see so many of

1845
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 10: our basic rights in question, I'm filled with guilt over

1846
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 10: that and even what I thought Rachel was. And then

1847
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 10: I started watching It's like watching a masterclass. I don't

1848
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 10: feel like there's a political agenda and where you're exactly right.

1849
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 6: Fox News will look at her and say elitist, homosexual,

1850
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 6: she's trying to social rights. But I feel that the basic,

1851
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 6: the basic gripe in not listening or even taking her

1852
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 6: words and filtering it because she's not this or she's

1853
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,560
Speaker 6: not that. Well yeah, but you know, because then I

1854
01:32:55,720 --> 01:33:00,600
Speaker 6: just feel that most conservatives might feel that, well, you know,

1855
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 6: she can't be telling the truth because she's she's a gay.

1856
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,799
Speaker 6: Then find and then that, and then then that goes into.

1857
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 10: A find a way to see those people and hear

1858
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 10: those people because people gay. Cable news ratings are up,

1859
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 10: But we have to break through the stereotype so people

1860
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 10: can actually hear you. And we have to stop attacking

1861
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 10: the president about his weight or his hair or is

1862
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 10: it like we don't have to go with all that

1863
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 10: he gives us. Correct, but I'm sing, we don't need

1864
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 10: to jump to conclusions about what we believe he's guilty

1865
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 10: of before we know it, because guess what, right now,

1866
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 10: at this moment, I'm sure he's given us something. Right,

1867
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 10: he's going to be somebody who's told I want to

1868
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 10: say the Washington Post has now added it to eight

1869
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 10: thousand lies. We can stick to covering those eight thousand lies.

1870
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 10: And we have to resist the temptation and of overkilled

1871
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 10: because guess what, we're all guilty of it. Whenever I

1872
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 10: get whenever Fox News, you know, at primetime, will do

1873
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 10: a segment at night mocking me.

1874
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 6: They do that.

1875
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 5: I don't watch Fox News.

1876
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:17,560
Speaker 10: Here's the thing, when they do it, there's usually a

1877
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 10: little bit of fact in there. I got a little

1878
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 10: lazy that day I got over my skis. It was

1879
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 10: usually on a Thursday or a Friday because I didn't

1880
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 10: do my homework and I'm tired. So we are challenged

1881
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 10: right now. We must stick stick to the facts because

1882
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 10: the facts are on our side. But you make an

1883
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:37,799
Speaker 10: amazing point around freedom of speech in that we support

1884
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 10: freedom of speech, but where we're conflicted is if people

1885
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 10: are just spewing propaganda and lies.

1886
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,600
Speaker 11: That's where we don't want them to.

1887
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 9: But then it's but that that's but that's my next

1888
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 9: kind of thing, because you say, like we should hear

1889
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 9: these people.

1890
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 6: I really think it's some people we just don't need

1891
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 6: to hear if they're talking that bullshit like you know

1892
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 6: me Tommy old time.

1893
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like that, like when I saw like you

1894
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 2: don't give her any air?

1895
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 6: Ye don't you know what?

1896
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 2: We don't talk about her.

1897
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 10: It exists because we're talking about her. So you know what,

1898
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 10: let's just put that.

1899
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 6: We don't need to hear.

1900
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 10: Huh, what do you think?

1901
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 12: I want to know your opinion on Howard Schultz.

1902
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 10: I think he's an extraordinary businessman. I think, listen, he's

1903
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 10: an unbelievable success story. I think that coming off the

1904
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 10: last election and looking at at at politics historically, we

1905
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 10: have a two party system, and the two party system

1906
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 10: might stink, it might be unfair, but that's what we got.

1907
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:49,600
Speaker 10: Mike Bloomberg has spent millions of dollars researching what it

1908
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 10: would look like to run as an independent. He's done

1909
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 10: the math and he goes it doesn't work. He didn't

1910
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 10: run last time because he knew that running was only

1911
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 10: going to help President Trump win again. The concern for

1912
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 10: Howard Schaltz, if he goes to run as an independent,

1913
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 10: is only going to advance President Trump. And I think

1914
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 10: it takes a whole lot of hootspot or brazenness to

1915
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,839
Speaker 10: think that you can win outside the system. System stinks,

1916
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 10: but unfortunately you got to figure out how to win

1917
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 10: in the system.

1918
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 5: Wait, has he been forgiven outside of Starbucks?

1919
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1920
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah he did. Common did some commercials and the.

1921
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:36,639
Speaker 6: Bucks. You wouldn't take the call we can build.

1922
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 9: That's Microsoft, Microsoft, It's the same thing. It's Common, the

1923
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 9: same guy in every part.

1924
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, missed that Zara joke. Though that was funny.

1925
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 6: You missed it. You have to wait for Okay, it's

1926
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 6: too true.

1927
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 2: Who makes you laugh at MSNBC? That's my question I

1928
01:36:57,720 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 2: wanted to ask.

1929
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 10: I'm gonna tell you who makes me laugh. It's a

1930
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 10: comedian right now? Do you guys know who Sebastian Menescalco is. Yes,

1931
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 10: I love you don't think he's funny?

1932
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:08,680
Speaker 6: No, I don't. I'm not him.

1933
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, so, I mean I like dirty comedians too, But

1934
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 10: to be a comedian and not go after people and

1935
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 10: not be dirty, that takes the talent. And I saw

1936
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 10: this guy for the first time like nine months ago,

1937
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 10: Jerry Seinfeld had a night with sort of all of

1938
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 10: his favorite comedians.

1939
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:27,799
Speaker 11: I urge you look him up on YouTube.

1940
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 10: I think he is something else. But on MS, I

1941
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,600
Speaker 10: got to tell you I really love working there, and

1942
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 10: I really love the people I work with. They work

1943
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 10: so hard, they are so smart. There's great to be around.

1944
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 2: I was just wondering if you guys ever really because

1945
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,480
Speaker 2: in our minds we wait exactly.

1946
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 10: Where she sent to everybody drinks for Christmas. But there

1947
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 10: are moments where I'm going, I can't believe Andrew Mitchell

1948
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 10: knows me right, Like I can't believe that, And just within.

1949
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 6: All where he walks by Andrew.

1950
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 10: Mitchell whenever she's decided to me, and was like, I

1951
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 10: can't believe it, right, I mean across the board right

1952
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 10: and on the Savannah got three. I mean like I

1953
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 10: was in England for the Royal wedding and I'm walking

1954
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Speaker 10: down the street with Savannah and Hodah and people are

1955
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,919
Speaker 10: losing their minds when they see Hodah. And the beautiful

1956
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 10: thing about that is she brings them joy.

1957
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Speaker 2: She's always smiling.

1958
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Speaker 11: She brings them joy, and.

1959
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Speaker 10: That is something like, yes, you're bringing people the news

1960
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Speaker 10: and really important stories. But you have a relationship with

1961
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 10: people at home, I mean my partner, Ali Belchi. I

1962
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 10: love them, Katie Sure, I love them all, Joe and me.

1963
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Speaker 2: How did you come to have two shows? Or is

1964
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 2: it just two hours? Do I say two hours?

1965
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Speaker 10: No, I have two shows. There came. I came to

1966
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Speaker 10: NBC and I was anchoring up my show on MSNBC,

1967
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 10: and I used to anchor the Today Show on Saturdays.

1968
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 10: But when you're a mom and you have three kids,

1969
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 10: you know, six day work week is something's got to get.

1970
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 6: I was going to say that I still feel as

1971
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 6: though there's rooms for like, there's more room at the

1972
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,639
Speaker 6: top for you, not to jinx anything.

1973
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 5: But what is higher?

1974
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 6: Is the Today Show a better lateral move or for me?

1975
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Speaker 10: I can just say whether it's at NBC or anywhere,

1976
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,759
Speaker 10: But is that how long term? I don't have dreams

1977
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 10: or long term?

1978
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 6: Wow? Talk about that's interesting in the moment.

1979
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 10: So I used to it, and it was, and all

1980
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 10: it did was give me stress and anxiety, and more

1981
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 10: than that, it put me in terrible positions that I

1982
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 10: would have bosses, that I would either have terrible bosses

1983
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 10: that treated me badly or a bad job with a

1984
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 10: great boss, and I'd say like, well, this is awful,

1985
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 10: but I just have to I just have to hang

1986
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 10: tight and then in a year it's all going to

1987
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 10: be better. And if you're living your life like business,

1988
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 10: but if you're living your life, if you're in a

1989
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:57,839
Speaker 10: relationship or a family and a job like this blows

1990
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 10: so badly right now, but in a year it will

1991
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:01,719
Speaker 10: be great.

1992
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 6: My little never just that.

1993
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 10: Just then the goalpost. Just keep moving and the like,

1994
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 10: there's only three things. You have no control of the weather,

1995
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 10: your health, and time and giving your time to something

1996
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 10: that you're like, no job do you love all the time?

1997
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 11: Working is a grind. Waking up early as a grind.

1998
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 11: But you've got to be doing something that.

1999
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 10: The people you like, or you're getting better or parts

2000
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 10: of it are exciting. And if it's not, that doesn't work.

2001
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 10: But as far as like what's my ultimate I didn't

2002
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 10: even eight years ago. I didn't know I was going

2003
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 10: to be in television. Two years ago, I had no

2004
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 10: idea I'd be covering politics. And here I am, you know,

2005
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 10: going to bed and waking up with Trump tweets. So

2006
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 10: if we can say I'm gonna try to go to

2007
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 10: bed happier than I was when I woke up, Like,

2008
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 10: that's it for me.

2009
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 6: Amen? Amen, that's been addiction right there?

2010
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 5: Is it like being a doctor?

2011
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 6: Like right now, if something catastrophic happens, this episode's coming

2012
01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:05,759
Speaker 6: on way later. So you know, if something catastrophic happens

2013
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:10,560
Speaker 6: in the world of politics or you know, development, is

2014
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 6: it you have to rush to stop what you're doing

2015
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 6: In me yes.

2016
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 10: Okay, but oh absolutely right. And people are trying to

2017
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 10: gain their vacations and this and that. But I'm forty

2018
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 10: three years old and I have three kids, and in

2019
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 10: any job that you ever have, in that moment, either

2020
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 10: that massive deal at work or that massive show or

2021
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 10: the massive news thing, it feels like everything and then

2022
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 10: six months later you can't even remember that day.

2023
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 11: That is so true, like you can't.

2024
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 5: So it has living in this this time that we're

2025
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 5: in right now sort of ruined.

2026
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 10: No, but Donald Trump doesn't get to take my joy.

2027
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,679
Speaker 10: He doesn't get to take my personal life or my family.

2028
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 10: And when I'm there, I'm going to give it one

2029
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 10: hundred percent. And if I can be there at breaking news,

2030
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 10: I will be. But if I can't.

2031
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 6: But they called you sometimes and you're like way in

2032
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:03,679
Speaker 6: Jersey somewhere, They're like, uh, let's get Hollie.

2033
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 10: Sure, yes, these things happen, but I can't live my

2034
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 10: life like, oh my god, I wasn't there and they

2035
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,719
Speaker 10: picked you know. You know there's this idea in TV

2036
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 10: like she was on maternity leave and when she was out,

2037
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 10: the girl who filled in was the best, and then

2038
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 10: her career was well.

2039
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 6: No, no, from a mortal standpoint, I just remeant from

2040
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 6: the logistics when breaking new do they send out like

2041
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 6: a massive text to see which one of the.

2042
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,639
Speaker 10: Takes you already know where you are. Every every Friday,

2043
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 10: you have to tell them here's where I am this weekend.

2044
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:35,639
Speaker 6: Wait, so can I ask is well?

2045
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 11: I was going to ask, you're planning and having a

2046
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 11: rendezvous with me?

2047
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 10: No?

2048
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 6: No, no, I just mean, like, well, in the case

2049
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 6: of Brian, who always seems to be there in suit

2050
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 6: and like when something happens or breaks, is he like

2051
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 6: in a holding area just waiting for something.

2052
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 10: So when there is like a big event or like

2053
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 10: a I mean that's Brian's jam, Like that's what Brian does.

2054
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 11: I mean listen, if he's away, he doesn't do it.

2055
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:06,560
Speaker 6: But if like a massive but he always seems to

2056
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 6: be there when it's breaking news time.

2057
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 2: It's the time.

2058
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,519
Speaker 5: Don't you ever go home? But his eleven o'clock.

2059
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,680
Speaker 10: But he's our breaking news person, so you know, if

2060
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 10: there's an awful thing, God forbid of shooting, you know

2061
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 10: someone's gonna be there taking us through it. And then

2062
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 10: probably at the top of the hour once Brian gets there.

2063
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 10: Brian's the guy who's gonna take you through For that.

2064
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Speaker 6: I thought he had to come in in like twelve

2065
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 6: and afternoon just wait only he probably.

2066
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 2: Has a fat contract to be that breaking news guy.

2067
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 2: Like that was a big deal for him to have

2068
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 2: him in the first place. Oh yeah, I'm gonna call

2069
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 2: you because I'm paying you all these guys.

2070
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:37,799
Speaker 6: Well, no, no, I wanted to know if he literally

2071
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 6: just chills there twelve hours a day waiting for something

2072
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:41,719
Speaker 6: to break and it doesn't.

2073
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 5: Okay, well I'm gonna go home now.

2074
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 2: I was surprised to see you doing the last day

2075
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 2: of the Union. I was like, she gotta get up

2076
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 2: in the morning, and is she gonna wait for us?

2077
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 5: Do you sleep at the office Sometimes No, But I have.

2078
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 10: To tell you, like, there's some days where I'm like,

2079
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 10: because sometimes I do Brian Williams show at night, which

2080
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,559
Speaker 10: is at eleven, and if I did have a shower

2081
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 10: in my off it would be better on those nights,

2082
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 10: because it's true that you know this from working late.

2083
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 11: The thing is you know this if you work late,

2084
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:07,759
Speaker 11: you get home.

2085
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 10: Then you open your door, then you open the refrigerator,

2086
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 10: then you check the mail, then you turn the TV on,

2087
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 10: and it's two in the morning, as opposed to if

2088
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 10: you did TV at eleven o'clock at night, walked in

2089
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,640
Speaker 10: your office, went to sleep, you might be asleep at

2090
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 10: twelve oh five, and I might be up early for work.

2091
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 11: But on nights like State of the Union, come on now.

2092
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 10: This is our super Bowl.

2093
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 6: This is what we do it for.

2094
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 10: Is you can't stay up late one night and wake

2095
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 10: up early one day. Then Laverne and Shirley called, you

2096
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 10: should be working at the bottle factory.

2097
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 13: I have a question, yes, so he was asking, I

2098
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 13: think ten minutes ago. Essentially, is uh, what's the what

2099
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 13: could be bigger or whatever? Or what would you want

2100
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 13: next or more than what you have now career wise,

2101
01:44:55,280 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 13: I guess, or show wise or whatever, And wouldn't it

2102
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 13: seems like you well, I guess my question is wouldn't

2103
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 13: the next step be to get into politics rather than

2104
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 13: you know too?

2105
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 10: I would never want to run for office. I think

2106
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 10: it's hard enough on my family that I chose to

2107
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:17,560
Speaker 10: have a public life in the way that I do.

2108
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 10: My kids didn't choose this. I chose it. And what

2109
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 10: people go through who are running office, running for office

2110
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 10: is so brutal that I just wouldn't And.

2111
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Speaker 13: I hypothetically all that aside, like where do you have

2112
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 13: a where do you have a louder voice or more

2113
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 13: chance to affect change?

2114
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's pretty good where I am right now.

2115
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 10: What I wish we could do, and I don't see

2116
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 10: it done enough, is actually cover thorny cultural issues because

2117
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:53,559
Speaker 10: what I'm afraid of right now is we're not talking

2118
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:54,839
Speaker 10: about a lot of hard topics.

2119
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 2: Well, yeahs won't repeat, especially the cable news. It's like

2120
01:45:58,240 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 2: a fifteen minute.

2121
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 11: But it's also arrow what we cover.

2122
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 10: But there's lots of topics that because we're accusing one

2123
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 10: another of being ignorant, or being closed minded, or being stupid,

2124
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 10: instead of continuing the conversation, we're getting silent. Me too

2125
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 10: is a really good example. So for me, covering me

2126
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 10: too is very complicated. I don't think it's black and white.

2127
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 10: And when you try, yes, but when you try to

2128
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 10: dig into that, you get shut down. And what it

2129
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 10: does is people who aren't necessarily stakeholders in that, like me,

2130
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 10: I find myself retreating and saying, you know what, I'm

2131
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 10: just not going to.

2132
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 11: And so like a year of a year.

2133
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 10: Ago, I was doing actually patau but in La the

2134
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 10: conference where Amir and I met, and I was doing

2135
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 10: a town hall about me too, and I tried to

2136
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 10: bring up the idea of you know, there's a spectrum

2137
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 10: and can we talk about forgiveness at all?

2138
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 2: And and.

2139
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 10: It was an know and one woman stood up and

2140
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 10: she said, absolutely not. I never want for all of

2141
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 10: the women in the world who have ever suffered from this,

2142
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 10: for this, I never want to talk about. I never

2143
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:12,679
Speaker 10: want to hear from those guys. And so I said, okay,

2144
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 10: And another woman stood up and said, corporate America was

2145
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 10: built by a white supremacist patriarchy and until that's blown up,

2146
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 10: this conversation is moot. And I'm not saying that that

2147
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 10: woman is wrong, but what I am saying is that

2148
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 10: point is also what she's saying is somewhat pointless. Because

2149
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 10: right now, corporate America is run by white guys, more

2150
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 10: guys named John and David than women total. And don't

2151
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 10: get me started on African Americans. So unless you can

2152
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 10: find a way to have a constructive conversation, they're going

2153
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 10: to go uh huh uh huh, and they're going to

2154
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 10: walk out the room.

2155
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 6: But I think before we bring up forgiveness, which is

2156
01:47:56,280 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 6: a point that I see, we never talk about justice absolutely,

2157
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 6: and you know, and that's sort of like, Okay, I

2158
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 6: went months ago when I went to the oscars.

2159
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:19,680
Speaker 10: For for people who have committed the most offensive of assaults.

2160
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 10: I mean forgiveness in terms of just cultural forgiveness. We're

2161
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 10: getting more mature. We're seeing people in a different.

2162
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 9: Way saying you're not allowed to grow, like you're not

2163
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 9: allowed to like we talk about the whole councel culture

2164
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:34,560
Speaker 9: and everything. I mean, the thing about it is just

2165
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 9: that if you're if you see people, if you commit

2166
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:40,920
Speaker 9: any kind of transgression or whatever, and you see that

2167
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 9: you're never gonna be forgiven, then you have no impetus

2168
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 9: to change, Like you know what I'm saying. If you

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Speaker 9: see it's like, well, you know what, y'all ain't gonna

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Speaker 9: fulp me no way, So fuck it. I'm gonna keep

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Speaker 9: doing whatever the fuck I'm doing. Like there's no there's

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Speaker 9: you don't ever give that point in that person for.

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Speaker 6: A person like Russell Simmons, whom I've definitely seen the

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Speaker 6: evolution of deaf jam eighties Russell Simmons versus yoga Russell,

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Speaker 6: Yoga Russell.

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Speaker 14: And why he hadn't but go ahead, I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 14: the world has changed from the eighties and the nineties

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Speaker 14: and the early.

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Speaker 2: And it's a weird thing that we have to learn.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about this on our group text because

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Speaker 2: we were I mean, I hate to bring it up,

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Speaker 2: but we were talking about a controversial story where a

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Speaker 2: guy is being accused of being inappropriate with women, as

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Speaker 2: in like going on a date and just pulling his

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Speaker 2: penis out right, and so talking about the levels of okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the levels of how should this guy be, how should

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Speaker 2: he be taking care of even though this may have

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Speaker 2: happened twenty years ago, even though you could have walked away,

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Speaker 2: even though you could have laughed and been like I'm out,

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Speaker 2: Like now women are like I'm calling for justice. This

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Speaker 2: is best.

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Speaker 6: What does that look like?

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Speaker 2: What is that just like right, yeah, because I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you could have just along the way.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I remember when a zis I'm sorry when

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Speaker 10: his story came out, and the woman I'm like, yeah, hey,

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Speaker 10: that sounds like a bad hookup. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 10: she didn't have a bad experience. But last I checked

2200
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 10: the premise of Sex in the City, which was I

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Speaker 10: don't know, the most successful show of its time was

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Speaker 10: kind of based on four girls hooking up with rich

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Speaker 10: guys in New York City.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, it's I'm broken.

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Speaker 10: And so it's just a complicated thing, and you want

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01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:27,639
Speaker 10: to show sympathy and empathy for anyone who feels wronged,

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01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 10: but you also have to realize, especially sexual experiences, something

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01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 10: could happen between the two of us, and when we

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Speaker 10: walk away, what you thought happened to what I thought

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Speaker 10: happened are two different day and so no one has

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01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 10: clearly articulated with the new rules of engagement and the

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Speaker 10: rules of the road.

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Speaker 2: Aar.

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Speaker 10: And when I say intimacy, I don't mean sex, but intimacy,

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Speaker 10: especially among colleagues, is at least for me, what has

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Speaker 10: helped me like be successful in my career. Emir and

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Speaker 10: I are friends. Right, we're both colleagues at MSNBC or

2218
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:05,560
Speaker 10: at NBC, but we've never worked together. But when I

2219
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 10: met him, I connected with him, and I cared him.

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Speaker 10: I cared about him as a person.

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Speaker 6: You didn't even know his name, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I was dragging about it, and you hugged him. Which

2223
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:19,719
Speaker 2: now it's like, I get worried about hugging people.

2224
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:21,440
Speaker 10: But if we get to a place.

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Speaker 6: Where we can't even show compassion or show any kind of.

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Speaker 10: Is I mean, if you worked in the music industry,

2227
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 10: if you worked an advert in a creative industry, you

2228
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:32,600
Speaker 10: have to care about people.

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01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 9: Because you're working with these motherfuckers all the time. Like

2230
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 9: it's sometimes you might see these people more than you

2231
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:38,599
Speaker 9: see your damn family, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: It's yeah, it's yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: Wild we establish And I think that's the that's the

2234
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 2: whole thing about right now in this time with all

2235
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Speaker 2: these raised conversations and all of these conversies meet too,

2236
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 2: conversations like we're re establishing ourselves and the rules, and

2237
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 2: we're also acknowledging of what we didn't know.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think you have to give people the

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01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 9: space for that, like, because it's like even with the

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Speaker 9: whole with the whole black face thing, like when they

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Speaker 9: going through these white college yearbooks and finding all.

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01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 6: These white people doing shit.

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Speaker 9: It's like, dude, I mean again, for me, it's different

2244
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:10,680
Speaker 9: as a Southerner because I went to these schools. I

2245
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 9: knew all them good old boys, like they was listening

2246
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:15,519
Speaker 9: to Wu Tang, but they had god damn Confederate flags

2247
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 9: on they trust, but they should.

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01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 2: Be ched in some form of fashion, because not for nothing,

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Speaker 2: that's that's the eighties, Not for nothing. Open a book, Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm tired of white people having excuses for not knowing

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Speaker 2: Black culture. That's excuses. I'm like, this is a part

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Speaker 2: of a black face was a part of American.

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Speaker 9: Culture, but it wasn't. I mean, but you gotta think though,

2254
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 9: it's a thing like a society. To me, society is

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Speaker 9: nothing more than just a contract. Right, It's just a contract,

2256
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Speaker 9: and like it's an ever evolving, ever renegotiatable contract. So

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Speaker 9: one day it's like, Okay, this was cool, but then

2258
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 9: all of a sudden you wake up and it's like, no,

2259
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 9: this ain't cool no more.

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Speaker 2: I just know that people don't be offending Jewish people

2261
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:51,680
Speaker 2: as much like they know the rules. People know the

2262
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 2: rules about certain cultures, they will not what but this

2263
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 2: happens much faster for other cultures. For us, we got

2264
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 2: to be understanding to understand it. They don't know and

2265
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 2: blah blah blahlah blah.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying we understand. They don't want They don't

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Speaker 6: want to know.

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Speaker 2: People don't want it.

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Speaker 10: There are tons of things that I'm not sure why

2270
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:13,560
Speaker 10: you shouldn't do it, and this is an opportunity to

2271
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 10: explain and find out why.

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Speaker 6: I've had to explain to many people about minstrelsy and

2273
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 6: and that sort of and people that just didn't know

2274
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 6: about the history.

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Speaker 11: They knew that it was wrong, but they didn't know why.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes I feel like, you know, with some fight

2277
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Speaker 2: white folks, they can know why, but they're like, well

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01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 2: that's that's no big deal to me, So I almost

2279
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 2: a big deal. I'm gonna just do it.

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Speaker 10: But that's because I think a lot of white people,

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Speaker 10: when you say white privilege, they're like, what do you

2282
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:45,799
Speaker 10: mean white privilege? I don't have it so easy because

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01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:50,599
Speaker 10: we take for granted what we don't realize because they're saying,

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Speaker 10: how could you say because the idea of white privilege like,

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01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 10: I don't have a privileged life. I'm struggling. But when

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01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:58,440
Speaker 10: you actually put it into content.

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Speaker 2: Cab, just stand outside real it, right.

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Speaker 10: I was. I was recently, I was upstate skiing and

2289
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 10: there was a woman there talking and she goes, you know,

2290
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 10: people talk about white privilege all the time. I mean,

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01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 10: I don't think it exists. And I said, have you

2292
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 10: looked at this mountain? Do you see any black people.

2293
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 6: That ain't serving you?

2294
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 2: You don't even know when we're missing.

2295
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 10: But because the idea, because for some people they think

2296
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 10: that they they conflate white privilege with white supremacy, and

2297
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 10: they're not the same thing. They're not, but those two

2298
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 10: things get conflated.

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Speaker 9: Interesting, it's like to say white privilege is like to

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01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 9: say it's not saying that it's easy to be white.

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01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 9: I'm not saying that just because you're white, you're gonna

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Speaker 9: have an easy life.

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Speaker 6: That's not you. Yeah, right, everybody but.

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01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 2: Easier, but you ain't gonna know it, so it's still

2305
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Speaker 2: gonna feel hard.

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Speaker 9: But if you had to walk a day in my ship,

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01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 9: you would jump off a fucking bridge. You ever see

2308
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 9: the Michael, Oh, yeah, that's the great I watched that

2309
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 9: ship one hundred times.

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01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 6: So Todd Bridges a nine year old time bridge. Yeah,

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01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 6: he's talking to Michael Landon. He said, he asked some question.

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Speaker 11: From from from Little House on.

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Speaker 6: Different yet he was.

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01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 5: Like nine years old.

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01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, he asked Michael Landon, would you rather be what

2316
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 6: was it?

2317
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 9: Would you rather be black and live live to one

2318
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,800
Speaker 9: hundred or be white and diet fifty?

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01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, Michael Landon the panning

2320
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 6: and the John Williams jaws like music and Michael Landon's

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01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 6: dependsive look of pain on his face and the look

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01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,880
Speaker 6: of defeat on his face when he realizes, yeah, I'd

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01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 6: still be I'd rather die at fifty and white, like

2324
01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 6: just walk away. And for the record, Michael Landon died

2325
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:56,360
Speaker 6: at the age of fifty four. Wow.

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Speaker 2: And what was the rest of the joke? Who lived

2327
01:55:58,840 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 2: to be well?

2328
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 5: No, no, no, he just walked away.

2329
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 6: Basically, Michael Landon was basically saying, yes, I'd rather I'd

2330
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 6: still be white. Yeah, just like when Chris Rock said

2331
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 6: none of you would trade places with me?

2332
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 13: And I'm rich right, I mean, I don't want to

2333
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 13: defend anything unpopular right now.

2334
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 15: But the show is Little House on the Prairie, which

2335
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:31,600
Speaker 15: is based in the Yes, seemed to be the lone

2336
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 15: liberal on the Prairie.

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01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:38,200
Speaker 6: You always did the right thing, though, Yeah, I have

2338
01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 6: a question.

2339
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 9: Yes, So I hinted that the fact that I went

2340
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 9: to school for working in the news, working in television

2341
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:50,840
Speaker 9: news earlier. What's what made me switch directions? Happened in

2342
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 9: my senior year, A little event that you might have

2343
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 9: heard heard of nine to eleven.

2344
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 6: That morning.

2345
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 9: You know, I I had to work first, go to

2346
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 9: work first, and then I had to go to class

2347
01:57:04,720 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 9: Ball State University in Muntsy, Indiana, and and basically like

2348
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 9: the whole department, like we just all came together and

2349
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 9: it was it was it was the class was the

2350
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 9: coverage of the news. And I'm just watching all this stuff,

2351
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 9: and I'm realizing, like if I go into this for

2352
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 9: the you know, as a career. You know, I've seen

2353
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 9: the Bud Dwyer suicide video in class. You know they

2354
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 9: damn yeah, they showed it in class. What Philly, Yeah,

2355
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 9: Bud Dwire he was he was like some he was

2356
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 9: caught up in some scheme.

2357
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:39,760
Speaker 6: He was a corrupt UH councilman who strategically called a

2358
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:44,920
Speaker 6: press conference in a in a Philadelphia judicial room. But

2359
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 6: he did it in from the judges position where there's

2360
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 6: like a protective barrier and then he pulls out a

2361
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Speaker 6: gun and then he uh killed himself live on television.

2362
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Speaker 5: We all saw it.

2363
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Speaker 9: So it was you know, your journalism ethics classes and all,

2364
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 9: and you know, yeah, I mean, because if I'm working

2365
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:11,640
Speaker 9: in news, I'm gonna so you know, with watching nine

2366
01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 9: to eleven happen, and you know, I'm realizing that I

2367
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 9: don't have time to process this as a human being.

2368
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 9: I have to get ready to get something on air.

2369
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 9: You know, this is you know, have you ever had

2370
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 9: a situation where you were had your emotions where your

2371
01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:27,840
Speaker 9: emotions were kind of running really high and you weren't sure.

2372
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, first of all, it would be odd

2373
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 10: to find a day when I don't cry a little

2374
01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 10: bit on TV, because I definitely do. I did actually

2375
01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:39,760
Speaker 10: last summer, and it wasn't a great night for me

2376
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 10: when we were in McCallen, Texas at the border. Was

2377
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 10: sort of when there was first news coverage of what

2378
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:50,200
Speaker 10: was going on with child separation. And it's very rare

2379
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 10: for Rachel Maddout to cry. And I was going on

2380
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 10: right after Rachel and it was in the last moments

2381
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 10: of her shows when she found out that there were

2382
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 10: what's called tender age detention centers for children who were

2383
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 10: separated who were under the age of three, and Rachel

2384
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 10: was on talk about it, and she started crying on air.

2385
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:12,800
Speaker 10: And then when Rachel handed off to me, I was

2386
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 10: really crying on air, and I sort of looked at

2387
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 10: the camera because Evanka first started Ivanka Trump and first

2388
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 10: Lady Milania Trump always say, you know, Milania's whole thing is,

2389
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:27,000
Speaker 10: you know, she's a devoted mother, And Evanka always says,

2390
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 10: I stand for the advancement of women and girls. And

2391
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:32,120
Speaker 10: the thing is, when you have the privilege of saying

2392
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:35,080
Speaker 10: I stand for something, that means you stood in the

2393
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 10: face of adversity.

2394
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 11: You stood up for something.

2395
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 10: And so I was so devastated by this idea of

2396
01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 10: babies being taken from their mothers. Really you almost couldn't

2397
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:48,000
Speaker 10: even understand what I was saying. I was crying so

2398
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:50,960
Speaker 10: hard on air, and some people after were like, oh,

2399
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 10: that was real emotion and that was raw and that

2400
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:55,839
Speaker 10: was great, but it really wasn't. And after the president

2401
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:57,880
Speaker 10: of NBC's name is Andy Lack, who I worked for,

2402
01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:01,480
Speaker 10: it at Bloomberg too, gave me graded and he said,

2403
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 10: you can be real and you can be emotional on television,

2404
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:11,000
Speaker 10: but it is your job to deliver this information. And

2405
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 10: the example he gave, he said, if someone died and

2406
02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 10: and two of us performed eulogies the same script and

2407
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 10: I did it hyperventilating and crying with no control of

2408
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 10: my emotions, you'd walk away and be like, oh my god,

2409
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:30,760
Speaker 10: Stephanie was devastated and she was crushed. Can if you

2410
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 10: gave the same eulogy, the same words, but you were controlled,

2411
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:37,120
Speaker 10: You could be emotional but controlled and knew that it

2412
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:40,800
Speaker 10: was your job to deliver that message. People would forever

2413
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 10: remember that message. So I think, to me, as a

2414
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:48,240
Speaker 10: viewer or somebody who's in it, actually the best you

2415
02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:51,960
Speaker 10: can be is your real self. But you're not your

2416
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 10: real self sitting on a couch crying and screaming and wailing.

2417
02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:58,760
Speaker 10: You've got to be sort of the boss of the

2418
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:01,840
Speaker 10: table and saying I'm here to deliver this to you

2419
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:04,280
Speaker 10: in the best way I can. But something I think,

2420
02:01:04,360 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 10: and cable news has given us the opportunity to do it.

2421
02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 10: Unlike what sort of traditional network news is a we

2422
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:14,040
Speaker 10: have more time, but b it's edgier and we can

2423
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:17,240
Speaker 10: be ourselves, and I don't mean like our opinionatedselves, but

2424
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:20,400
Speaker 10: our real selves. And I can see a difference of

2425
02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:22,400
Speaker 10: people who sort of grew up, you know, in a

2426
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:26,400
Speaker 10: very traditional journalistic kind of network news place where like

2427
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 10: never give yourself, never give.

2428
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:31,440
Speaker 11: Emotion, I would not have I feel like that.

2429
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 10: I would not have gone into this business if I

2430
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 10: couldn't be my First of all, I went into it

2431
02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:38,920
Speaker 10: too late. I was thirty six years old, Like it

2432
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:41,720
Speaker 10: was too late for me to be anything but me.

2433
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:47,920
Speaker 10: And I think people want that people they don't want

2434
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:50,360
Speaker 10: you to just give it. Here is the information. You

2435
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 10: could get the information from the internet. You can try

2436
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:55,720
Speaker 10: to give it in the best way you can.

2437
02:01:56,440 --> 02:01:58,200
Speaker 2: We had to do radio on that day. It was

2438
02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 2: hard to nine to eleven on radio at six pm

2439
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:01,640
Speaker 2: that night.

2440
02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:03,920
Speaker 10: Not tasy, but it was.

2441
02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:06,360
Speaker 2: But you also feel like you're doing a service too

2442
02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:08,400
Speaker 2: for your friends because you're giving them the information that

2443
02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:09,920
Speaker 2: they need. And so the more you get in your

2444
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:13,200
Speaker 2: head about that and getting your folksed to information, unless

2445
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:14,480
Speaker 2: you get it into the feelings part.

2446
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:18,640
Speaker 10: Covering shootings is horrible. Covering Parkland is horrible. Covering the

2447
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:21,320
Speaker 10: Remember that shooting in Texas last year. That was in

2448
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:25,080
Speaker 10: a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, a tiny little Baptist church,

2449
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:27,520
Speaker 10: and a guy walked in and he shot everybody, you know,

2450
02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:30,680
Speaker 10: and they were facing the altar, so he shot him, No,

2451
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:34,040
Speaker 10: shot him from behind. Those are horrible to cover.

2452
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:38,680
Speaker 6: I couldn't do it. So I had to like, literally, really,

2453
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:41,880
Speaker 6: do you really? Like it was my senior year, like

2454
02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:42,600
Speaker 6: like I had to.

2455
02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 9: I had to finish out the major, but like nine

2456
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:47,040
Speaker 9: eleven's like, I don't think I can do this, like

2457
02:02:47,080 --> 02:02:49,720
Speaker 9: because I just needed to process what had just happened,

2458
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:52,440
Speaker 9: you know, like there was no way that like I

2459
02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:53,840
Speaker 9: wasn't trying to be an on air person, you know,

2460
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:56,280
Speaker 9: I was either going to be behind behind the camera

2461
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:59,080
Speaker 9: or an editing room somewhere. Editing room definitely would have

2462
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:01,480
Speaker 9: been a problem because you getting all the unedited footage,

2463
02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 9: You're seeing everything that's not going to you know, not

2464
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:06,360
Speaker 9: going to make it the air. So I just, you know,

2465
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:08,360
Speaker 9: I had to do some serious soul search and like

2466
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:11,080
Speaker 9: I can't do this, So.

2467
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:13,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, here you are. I think things have changed. I'm

2468
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:16,480
Speaker 6: not doing like you know what I get.

2469
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 10: But I also even think the shows that I love

2470
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:23,720
Speaker 10: to watch or listen to. I don't think have traditional roles.

2471
02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:26,520
Speaker 10: I don't think it's like you're the anchor, you're the

2472
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 10: I mean they're more Everybody involved is putting all the

2473
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:32,720
Speaker 10: best ingredients they can think of in the pot, and

2474
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:36,000
Speaker 10: hopefully everyone will rise with it. Right Like I think

2475
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:38,760
Speaker 10: people were more famous, Like I think people on television

2476
02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 10: ten years ago were more famous now. I think great

2477
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:46,960
Speaker 10: content makes people famous because there used to only be

2478
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:49,520
Speaker 10: a few platforms. Right Like when we were growing up,

2479
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:52,160
Speaker 10: you could watch the Today Show, you could watch Good

2480
02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 10: Morning America. You know what I mean? That was it.

2481
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:58,560
Speaker 10: Now there are so many outlets. I think great things

2482
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:02,000
Speaker 10: find their way overwhelming. Who is your professor?

2483
02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:03,320
Speaker 2: Wow?

2484
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:10,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, just passed away last month factor January. Fun fact,

2485
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:13,840
Speaker 6: when that Bud Dwier thing happened. Uh, that was the

2486
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 6: day that Prince Premier kiss on parad So. I literally

2487
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:26,800
Speaker 6: whenever I hear that intro, I always think of Bud Dwire.

2488
02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:31,200
Speaker 6: I'm sorry like that that yeah, that that that image

2489
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:31,680
Speaker 6: was kind of.

2490
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:33,080
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it was.

2491
02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 6: It happened coincidentally at the same time, like my parents,

2492
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 6: my parents and family were screaming, do not google Bud Dwyer.

2493
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:45,480
Speaker 5: Don't do that to yourself. I don't know, maybe not.

2494
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:49,160
Speaker 2: You shoul look up. You should have that Bible that

2495
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:49,879
Speaker 2: I'm wondering.

2496
02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:57,640
Speaker 6: If it is on YouTube it is. Okay, So look, Stephanie,

2497
02:04:57,680 --> 02:04:59,440
Speaker 6: we're about to wrap up right now because I know

2498
02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 6: you have to get up at zero clock in the morning.

2499
02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:08,160
Speaker 6: So technically only got one question out, so I don't

2500
02:05:08,160 --> 02:05:09,880
Speaker 6: even get to where did you where were you born?

2501
02:05:09,960 --> 02:05:13,120
Speaker 6: And all your child or whatever? Jersey, Well, yeah, I

2502
02:05:13,200 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 6: mean I asked, but anywaysy am Yeah.

2503
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:22,680
Speaker 5: So my second question, what was the first record you

2504
02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:23,480
Speaker 5: ever purchased?

2505
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 10: The first record I can remember so vividly as a child. No, no,

2506
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:36,280
Speaker 10: I'm gonna tell you so. The first record I can

2507
02:05:36,880 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 10: like when I close my eyes is the double soundtrack

2508
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:45,919
Speaker 10: from Greece, the movie Wow. Being a little girl staring

2509
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 10: at the green record with all of the photographs.

2510
02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:50,840
Speaker 2: What part one? Right, I'll just make sure Grease won.

2511
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, don't get me wrong, like Greece too. Nobody wants

2512
02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:58,440
Speaker 10: to admit that. But you know we're gonna score the

2513
02:05:58,480 --> 02:05:59,160
Speaker 10: bowling song.

2514
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you.

2515
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:08,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna go

2516
02:06:10,600 --> 02:06:13,000
Speaker 10: and so not like right there you were gonna dump

2517
02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:13,640
Speaker 10: on Grease.

2518
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:14,640
Speaker 6: All the words.

2519
02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:17,760
Speaker 10: It's true, it's just you know, it was the Grease

2520
02:06:18,160 --> 02:06:21,920
Speaker 10: double album. I can so vividly remember.

2521
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, that just happened.

2522
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:32,080
Speaker 2: You see, Greece is universal.

2523
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:37,880
Speaker 10: About Greece. It's far dirtier than you remember. Because I

2524
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:43,520
Speaker 10: have little kids, and then I'm like, I'm sorry, what

2525
02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:44,120
Speaker 10: the chicks?

2526
02:06:44,360 --> 02:06:47,400
Speaker 2: Who the what? Like, yes, I gotta go watch it again.

2527
02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:48,520
Speaker 11: I hate keep from Kiniki.

2528
02:06:48,680 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 10: Yes because my daughter's five Michael and I'm like, oh,

2529
02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:57,440
Speaker 10: come on, let's watch the dance scene. And I'm like, wow, Gregorio,

2530
02:06:58,280 --> 02:06:58,640
Speaker 10: you never.

2531
02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:01,280
Speaker 6: You ever tried watching Back to the Future post me to.

2532
02:07:03,080 --> 02:07:08,360
Speaker 11: Yo as well, you're the president from Back to the.

2533
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:13,600
Speaker 5: All right, what was your first concert material?

2534
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:14,280
Speaker 10: Girl Madonna?

2535
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:15,480
Speaker 6: Not a bad one.

2536
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 5: Were the Beastie Boys?

2537
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 6: The Opener?

2538
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 10: I don't think so?

2539
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:20,040
Speaker 5: Okay okay?

2540
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:21,720
Speaker 10: And I went to a meet Loaft show at a

2541
02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:22,520
Speaker 10: community college.

2542
02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:24,320
Speaker 6: Wow? Really? Yeah?

2543
02:07:24,400 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 10: Somebody's parents took.

2544
02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:27,840
Speaker 6: Us y when I when I was seven years old,

2545
02:07:28,840 --> 02:07:33,720
Speaker 6: I played meat loaf in a pinball game. Wow. Uh.

2546
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:38,400
Speaker 5: In Albany, New York.

2547
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:43,240
Speaker 6: This is back in the day when rock stars would

2548
02:07:43,320 --> 02:07:45,160
Speaker 6: normally stay at airport.

2549
02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:46,880
Speaker 5: What are you laughing at, Zarah?

2550
02:07:49,160 --> 02:07:51,600
Speaker 2: What do you mean you played him in a pinball game?

2551
02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:52,040
Speaker 5: Okay?

2552
02:07:52,240 --> 02:07:55,760
Speaker 2: You know what, Yeah, because it's hard to play.

2553
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:59,680
Speaker 6: With Okay, I thought I thought it was some sort

2554
02:07:59,720 --> 02:08:01,960
Speaker 6: of Okay, let me.

2555
02:08:01,960 --> 02:08:06,720
Speaker 9: Explain to you hotel. Wait, she thought you, like, were

2556
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:09,200
Speaker 9: in a play and your your role was meet looks.

2557
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 10: So you were playing it was he was your opponent.

2558
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:24,360
Speaker 6: Okay, So I got you saying to back and most shared.

2559
02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:26,640
Speaker 6: In the holidays, they used to have something called game

2560
02:08:26,720 --> 02:08:33,360
Speaker 6: rooms and every arcade game. Hotels used to have fully

2561
02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:38,000
Speaker 6: stocked arcades inside of to keep kids occupied. Now it's

2562
02:08:38,080 --> 02:08:40,520
Speaker 6: just like pay per view on your and your but

2563
02:08:41,160 --> 02:08:43,160
Speaker 6: kids used to have something to either go swimming or

2564
02:08:43,200 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 6: you go to game room. So your parents give you

2565
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:48,200
Speaker 6: five bucks and then that buys you depending on if

2566
02:08:48,240 --> 02:08:51,840
Speaker 6: you memorize all the patterns on pac Man. You know,

2567
02:08:52,040 --> 02:08:54,360
Speaker 6: that could buy you good three hours in the game room.

2568
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 6: And you know your parents could do whatever. My my

2569
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:03,520
Speaker 6: dad did like two weeks in Albany, New York. And

2570
02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:07,160
Speaker 6: that's back when now rock stars stayed in the best

2571
02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:09,720
Speaker 6: five star hotels and the glamour and all that stuff.

2572
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:12,560
Speaker 6: But back in the day, you could always find a

2573
02:09:12,680 --> 02:09:17,360
Speaker 6: rock act at whatever the nearest airport hotel was, so

2574
02:09:17,640 --> 02:09:21,480
Speaker 6: usually the Holiday Inn Airport or the Sheridan Airport. So

2575
02:09:22,360 --> 02:09:24,640
Speaker 6: we happen to be appearing there, My parents happen to

2576
02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 6: be appearing there and back in like seventy nine in Albany,

2577
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:31,920
Speaker 6: New York. And I didn't know who Meatloff was. It

2578
02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:37,400
Speaker 6: just knew fat guy always playing. I forget the name

2579
02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 6: of it. I think No, it wasn't Flash Court. That

2580
02:09:41,160 --> 02:09:46,120
Speaker 6: was like eighty one. Anyway, we became pals playing pinball

2581
02:09:46,160 --> 02:09:49,480
Speaker 6: games in the game room, and I later found out.

2582
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was saying, I didn't even hear that story.

2583
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:56,240
Speaker 2: I just heard meatball music and I would do anything below.

2584
02:09:56,080 --> 02:10:00,720
Speaker 6: Anyway, dude that I loved him.

2585
02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:02,480
Speaker 5: Zero, What was your first concert?

2586
02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:06,520
Speaker 12: Wango Tango you by Kiss FM?

2587
02:10:07,240 --> 02:10:08,480
Speaker 5: What the hell is wingo Tango?

2588
02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:12,760
Speaker 12: It's like, you know, jingle Ball? Yeah, Kiss FM and

2589
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:17,480
Speaker 12: l A does a like a summertime one at the

2590
02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:19,280
Speaker 12: rose Ball who performed.

2591
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:24,320
Speaker 2: The Oh no, she don't make us feel? Oh go ahead?

2592
02:10:24,400 --> 02:10:24,600
Speaker 4: Zero?

2593
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:30,320
Speaker 5: What nothing good? There's age? She just sounds fourteen.

2594
02:10:30,680 --> 02:10:32,720
Speaker 12: I can't remember, but I think it was like the

2595
02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:37,160
Speaker 12: Backstreet Boys. Oh I remember Kelly Osborne saying she.

2596
02:10:37,240 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 2: Has It was during the Osborne when the Osbourne's were going.

2597
02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:45,160
Speaker 12: And uh, Jaul and Ashanti.

2598
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Speaker 10: Wango tango.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have a little bit of everything, like dingle.

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Speaker 5: What's the first record you brought?

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Speaker 11: Osborne had a song, yes, cover.

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Speaker 6: Of Papa Don't Preach. It was her first single.

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Speaker 10: I loved it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what was your first record?

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Speaker 2: It was that? Kelly?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 6: Probably yeah, Like, how do you know? I was a

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Speaker 6: kid at one point to My parents didn't buy the

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Speaker 6: RAF but my friend Evans from Dynasty, you know what

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Speaker 6: I know?

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Speaker 11: I think Yanni did was the one word.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I thought they were Anyway, I appreciate this.

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Speaker 6: This is a very generous interview. We we enjoyed talking

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Speaker 6: to you. Okay, you guys A drunken episode, Stephanie.

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Speaker 2: Stephanie cat just told you it was one episode already

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Speaker 2: told Artis, But it knocked me off my feet. This

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02:11:46,320 --> 02:11:48,520
Speaker 2: guy was talking, he was on the Conservative and he

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02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:51,360
Speaker 2: came at Belshie for no reason. He said, and where

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Speaker 2: are you from? It was totally racial and your ass

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02:11:53,720 --> 02:11:55,520
Speaker 2: jumped to his defense so quick that I thought you

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Speaker 2: was gonna jump through that screen. And I just want

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Speaker 2: to tell you ever since that day I had folk

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Speaker 2: a spirit.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: He why are you asking him where he is from?

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Speaker 11: He was trying to say that.

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Speaker 10: It was okay that Roy Moore down in Alabama went

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Speaker 10: after underage girls because he looked at Ali and he said, well,

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Speaker 10: you're from afar off Land, trying to make some sort

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Speaker 10: of thinly veiled Muslim race like Canada.

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Speaker 11: So that guy could take a hike.

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Speaker 2: Yoh, you got pissed. It was great, Okay, I'm just

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Speaker 2: let her speak then, yeah, you got she got this.

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Speaker 10: But think about that. Think about in Alabama that guy

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Speaker 10: almost got elected. And listen, there was some Charles Barkley

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Speaker 10: the night before went down to Atlanta and said, Atlanta

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Speaker 10: and said we have to be better than this. And

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Speaker 10: he got out the vote and made a difference.

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Speaker 2: It was Charles Barkley.

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Speaker 10: I remember twenty years ago. Charles Barkley was guy saying

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Speaker 10: I don't want to be an idol. I don't need to.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to be a role model for your kids. Evolution,

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Speaker 10: all right, which guess what everybody can?

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Speaker 6: Everybody can. I don't say everybody before a lot of

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Speaker 6: people can.

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Speaker 5: Before I let you go.

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Speaker 6: Everybody has the potential to potential. Yeah, before I let

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Speaker 6: you go. No, this is no because she could come back,

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Speaker 6: and you know we got we should have a beat

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Speaker 6: for a yes episode.

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Speaker 2: Would you do a drunken episode?

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Speaker 6: Well for the year in episode we just have alcohol. Actually,

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Speaker 6: wait a minute, when the drink has been poor. No,

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Speaker 6: I think we need to do a drunken episode with Rachel.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Rachel and Stephanie.

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Speaker 6: That would be something, all right, because Rachel's starting to

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Speaker 6: speak to me in elevators now.

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Speaker 9: I've been hearing about how good she is at pouring drinks.

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Speaker 9: I just, you know, want to find out for myself.

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Speaker 5: She's very good.

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Speaker 2: Is Rachel single? She's still married?

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Speaker 10: She is not single.

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02:13:48,720 --> 02:13:50,840
Speaker 2: Okay, she's still nice. They've been met together for a

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Speaker 2: long time. It's great.

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, Stephanie, we thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 10: And your show airs win nine am and one pm.

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Speaker 6: She's about to walk out right now. Could you say

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Speaker 6: that one more time because you got interrupted.

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Speaker 10: Nine am Monday to Friday, one pm Monday.

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Speaker 6: What network, M S, N b C.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: Hey. By the way, I know our audience can't see this,

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Speaker 6: but these Taates cookies have they been here since They've

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Speaker 6: been here the entire time. It was a courtesy of

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Speaker 6: this Sugar Network than Sugar Network. Oh no, Babe, Bill,

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Speaker 6: Zarah Sugar, Steve with the Sugar Network. It's like and

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Speaker 6: Fanciccolo and Stephanie roll Quest Love signing off only on Pandora.

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Speaker 5: We will see you on the next go around.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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