Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast does teams celebrations in the
Speaker 1: end zone. Welcome to another edition of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas. I'm joined in
Speaker 1: a garage filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Right before
Speaker 1: we started, Dan and said, well, what do I say again? Well,
Speaker 1: weren't a bit of a different setting we're in once
Speaker 1: we're in, Dana at the top of the show, Well
Speaker 1: you should say it now? Then I think I wasn't
Speaker 1: listening to Yansas? Did I say that? Think you covered yourself? Dad?
Speaker 1: Did I say that? Have you done this before? We're
Speaker 1: plugged in? We're we're plugged in right. Well, I am
Speaker 1: Dan Hansas and this is the Around the NFL Podcast,
Speaker 1: and we are in the garage after Monday Night football.
Speaker 1: The Packers obviously um embarrassed if I quite frankly in
Speaker 1: their house to take the NFC North and uh, we
Speaker 1: are going to get to that. Usually, of course we
Speaker 1: do our show on Tuesday, but on the holiday week
Speaker 1: with Christmas coming up. Uh, we're doing it here offsite
Speaker 1: in the garage home of the Throwback podcast and boys. Uh,
Speaker 1: first of all, have you enjoyed the experience, you know,
Speaker 1: watching the game from the garage? Let's start. Let's start there.
Speaker 1: I think it's been amazing because, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: celebratory Christmas kind of vibe to it. Uh, your son's
Speaker 1: Jack and Harrison strolled in here, your level wife, Emily,
Speaker 1: your parents is here, Dad, you know, Dan's dad is here.
Speaker 1: That's a special event. And getting to sit and watch
Speaker 1: three hours of football and hearing what I would consider
Speaker 1: decades worth of precise hammer dropping pros and commentary from
Speaker 1: Dan's dad as a special experience. I've been here for
Speaker 1: a baseball playoff game as well, and it reminds me
Speaker 1: of you know, a few years back, it got to
Speaker 1: be trendy for all these bars, you know, in urban
Speaker 1: areas to have garage fronts that actually pull down, you know,
Speaker 1: and about five minutes into the game, Dan puts the
Speaker 1: garage door down. It feels like you're in an actual
Speaker 1: bar and you're just having a good time. It was
Speaker 1: a good setting. No, Dan did an amazing job setting
Speaker 1: up this garage. Is trained changed quite a bit in
Speaker 1: the last few years. It's a beautiful place to watch
Speaker 1: the games and and who, uh, who better to sit
Speaker 1: next to than Keith Hansas, like I was all night,
Speaker 1: a lot of hot takes on Aaron Rodgers will maybe
Speaker 1: have that. A little uh later, he tried to stump
Speaker 1: West in some trivia, and West did a pretty good
Speaker 1: job answering the bell. What was the wait? What was
Speaker 1: the trivia question? Again? Dad? The trivia question, first of
Speaker 1: all was what was the longest punt in NFL history?
Speaker 1: We whipped on that one. Well, I attempted Randall Cunningham,
Speaker 1: but the answer was not that. And what was the
Speaker 1: other one? The Well, the answer to that was Steve
Speaker 1: O'Neill of the just ninety eight yards. And then the
Speaker 1: other question, the other one was and this was the
Speaker 1: real hammer dropper. The other one was back, who was
Speaker 1: the who had the leading uh as a out back?
Speaker 1: Who had the most rushing odds for the season way
Speaker 1: back in the early seventies, who had the record before
Speaker 1: Michael Vick? And I said Bobby Douglas. But then Keith,
Speaker 1: a bit of a stickler, said what year and how
Speaker 1: many yards? I said seventy one or seventy two. He
Speaker 1: nailed me down on that one, so I had to
Speaker 1: go seventy one. It was seventy two two and I
Speaker 1: guess nine sixty one yards, but it was night, so
Speaker 1: you got the answer incorrect. Yeah, I was, you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna yeah, and we got together here and
Speaker 1: had some Mexican food and uh enjoyed ourselves and watched
Speaker 1: the Monday night football game. We're gonna get to that
Speaker 1: in just a little bit. We're also gonna do um
Speaker 1: some news, get caught up on some happenings after Week sixteen,
Speaker 1: and including uh, the apparent return of one of the
Speaker 1: most perhaps I don't know, mount Mountain Rushmore, this thing,
Speaker 1: most famous NFL players of the first century. Uh, stick
Speaker 1: a pan that because I think this gentleman for the
Speaker 1: uh with the Seattle Seahawks might qualify anyway. That's a
Speaker 1: discussion to have in a little bit. But let's start,
Speaker 1: yes with Monday night football. The Green Bay Packers are
Speaker 1: celebrating Jones. Look at that balance. Aaron Jones only so
Speaker 1: much you could ask of this defense, and Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: just ASTs far too much about fifty six yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones fifty six yards of the house, and that
Speaker 1: was the dagger for the Packers, who absolutely overwhelmed defensively
Speaker 1: the Vikings in a three to ten win that gives
Speaker 1: the Packers UH their twelfth win and the NFC North title,
Speaker 1: and for the time being, UH puts them Greg. I
Speaker 1: think I'm right on the computation here. They have the
Speaker 1: bye as of right now, they're in the top two,
Speaker 1: right behind the Niners. All they have to do is
Speaker 1: beat the Blowhards in Detroit David blow and the Lions
Speaker 1: next week to clinch a bye, and they could even
Speaker 1: move up to the one seed lose. I would say,
Speaker 1: don't just assume that's happening, but the chances feel good.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about this game a little bit, because
Speaker 1: the Packers certainly did not blow the doors um off
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Aaron Rodgers, UH and company. They you know,
Speaker 1: they struggled for large portions of this game on offense
Speaker 1: against the good Vikings demon in a very difficult place
Speaker 1: to play. But I think the story of this game
Speaker 1: really will be what a massive egg the Vikings laid.
Speaker 1: UH and West will start with you. I know you
Speaker 1: and I have had our disagreements with Kirk Cousins and
Speaker 1: the Vikings where blames should be assessed when the Vikings
Speaker 1: go wrong and This does not make me the winner
Speaker 1: of that argument. You were right, and everything you said
Speaker 1: it was all right. Dan has declared the winner. Now
Speaker 1: that is that is not true because a lot of
Speaker 1: people didn't show up in this game. It's certainly not
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins either. Seven first downs from Minnesota and four
Speaker 1: quarters the fewest in a home game by this organization
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy one. Keith Hansas was a junior at
Speaker 1: Clarkstown High School at that time senior at Clarkstown High.
Speaker 1: The man's a grandfather West speak to it. Come on,
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, put the team on your back when they
Speaker 1: need you well. Like I said on Thursday, you and
Speaker 1: I see it more eye to ida on this than
Speaker 1: it than it seems like. I don't care what his
Speaker 1: record is on Monday night football. That is immaterial. It's
Speaker 1: like somehow nine Monday night games are better than than
Speaker 1: Sunday games. I might have been true in three I
Speaker 1: don't think that's been true lately. Uh. Thirdly, we've seen
Speaker 1: this before. He didn't come up when the Redskins needed
Speaker 1: a late season victory. He didn't come up big when
Speaker 1: the Vikings of two thousand and eighteen needed a late
Speaker 1: season victory, and he didn't come up big tonight. And
Speaker 1: like you said, the blame can be assessed to a
Speaker 1: running game that didn't exist, an offensive line that got
Speaker 1: worked over by the Hackers front seven, a defense that
Speaker 1: got some turnovers but also allowed a hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: yards to Aaron Jones, a coach who punted down thirteen
Speaker 1: with three and a half minute or four minutes left
Speaker 1: in the game. Um, there's a lot of blame to
Speaker 1: go around, but I you cannot escape the Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: led an offense that had seven first downs, and like
Speaker 1: you said, since nineteen seventy one was the last time
Speaker 1: that happened in a Vikings home game. This is one
Speaker 1: of the most disappointing performances any team has had all year.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the worst offensive performance. It's it's
Speaker 1: you can't write how embarrassing. This is the only team
Speaker 1: to have fewer first downs in the game this season. Also,
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football, here's a little trivia. Come on
Speaker 1: and guess it. I'd say Chicago Bears. You gotta be
Speaker 1: able to guess at Jets fans in the room, it
Speaker 1: was it was the Jets that's the only guy removed
Speaker 1: that from a frontal lobotomy, like uh, the Kennedy kids,
Speaker 1: they like they had like a third string accountant playing
Speaker 1: quarterback the Jets. That the difference. The difference is this
Speaker 1: is for the NFC North title, and you come in
Speaker 1: the Packers defense, and Mike Patton and especially Zadarius Smith
Speaker 1: and everyone of the defense deserves all the credit in
Speaker 1: the world for totally dominating. But to score ten points
Speaker 1: because you had a three and out inside the ten
Speaker 1: yard line and because Kirk Cousins made one nice pass
Speaker 1: it was a twenty six yard drive where he had
Speaker 1: the throw for the touchdown. That's how you got your
Speaker 1: ten points. You had thirteen drives, none of them went
Speaker 1: over thirty one yards. You can't put any blame on
Speaker 1: the defense. They're the defense played great. They gave him
Speaker 1: the ball three extra times tonight, including giving them uh
Speaker 1: to scoring chances. Then they only allowed twenty three points.
Speaker 1: That's a that's an a minus from your defense who's
Speaker 1: been around for a long time and get kept getting
Speaker 1: put in bad positions. This was the most embarrassing offensive
Speaker 1: performance any team said all season, let me go through it,
Speaker 1: let me go through it. Here. This is the Vikings
Speaker 1: possessions um after recovering a fumble right off the bat
Speaker 1: by the Packers. Four plays five yards, uh, six plays
Speaker 1: eighteen yards, three plays negative two yards, three plays twenty
Speaker 1: six yards, three plays five yards, four place six yards,
Speaker 1: three plays five yards, three place seven yards, six place
Speaker 1: thirty one yards, five place twenty yards, three plays negative
Speaker 1: four yards, seven plays twelve yards, and finally four plays
Speaker 1: negative five yards. I mean, Mark, this is outrageous. And
Speaker 1: that's why I think we were even saying to each
Speaker 1: other at the midway point that the green Bay's three
Speaker 1: turnovers early that you know, you see these in games.
Speaker 1: The Minnesota did nothing with that, They were unable to
Speaker 1: do anything with that, and you felt the Green Bay
Speaker 1: would find a way to come back. And my favorite
Speaker 1: moment of the moment of the night was when Packers
Speaker 1: coach Matt Lafleur was described by Keith Hansas as a
Speaker 1: little kid with a beard. And yet somehow, uh, somehow,
Speaker 1: the coach and Aaron Rodgers have gotten this far, and
Speaker 1: I have no questions. I have no problem with the
Speaker 1: Vikings being pushed down to where they belong at the
Speaker 1: sixth seed, because they're an inferior team to Green Bay,
Speaker 1: but also to every single other team in the NFC race,
Speaker 1: because I don't trust them on the road, I don't
Speaker 1: trust them at home. They are flawed, guys like Adam
Speaker 1: Theland are not healthy. They without Dalvin Cook, I think
Speaker 1: that's a huge I think we talked about with or
Speaker 1: without Dalvin Cook, they'll be fine. I simply don't agree
Speaker 1: because you need his present. Well, I didn't think it
Speaker 1: would make a big difference, and his present that big
Speaker 1: of it. Maybe not tonight, but when they've when when
Speaker 1: we've looked at their offense and believed in their abilities,
Speaker 1: little things like tonight attempting to trick play and having
Speaker 1: to go into the trick play bag because they simply
Speaker 1: couldn't get basic plays done. And you have Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: rolling out and dropping an overthrown pass, and he think
Speaker 1: he had a bit back pick himself. Well he stretched
Speaker 1: out for it, of course their intended. All I'd say
Speaker 1: is that you can you can kind of tell sometimes
Speaker 1: in a game early that a team is going to
Speaker 1: get into a flow, and they just never found that
Speaker 1: way into this game at home. I think it's very
Speaker 1: concerning for them. I see them as a one and
Speaker 1: done team in the playoffs. It was hard to see
Speaker 1: this game coming though. I mean, they were a top
Speaker 1: eight offense in UH efficiency according to Football Outsiders coming
Speaker 1: into this they've been top ten in def in offense
Speaker 1: and defense and points. Like I thought, they actually passed
Speaker 1: protected pretty well. Coming into this night and especially in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Thinks that Arias Smith He's not gonna
Speaker 1: win Defensive Player of the Year, but he would be
Speaker 1: in my top five. I've been putting him in my
Speaker 1: top five all year, and this was one of the
Speaker 1: best games any defensive players had all year. Three and
Speaker 1: a half sacks, five tackles for loss. Well, you've been
Speaker 1: saying that you like him for a defensive player that
Speaker 1: you're candidate because he makes a play or a big
Speaker 1: play every week. He's sort of the NFC's version of
Speaker 1: t J Watt this year, and you saw it tonight.
Speaker 1: Five QB hits, five tackles for loss, three point five sacks.
Speaker 1: That's just a that's a month. That's one of the
Speaker 1: best defensive games we've seen. It's weird because their defense
Speaker 1: the Packers started the season playing so well. That was
Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers said coming off the field in Week one.
Speaker 1: We've got a defense, We've got it even and then
Speaker 1: they went away for two months. But here they are
Speaker 1: in December and the Packers offense isn't consistent and they
Speaker 1: weren't tonight. But they still have Aaron Jones, and they
Speaker 1: still have Devonte and they still have Aaron Rodgers. Like
Speaker 1: if they have enough offense when the defense is playing
Speaker 1: like that. They've allowed about twelve and a half points
Speaker 1: per game over the last month. Um this was the
Speaker 1: first really good offense they've shut down. The Vikings are
Speaker 1: among the best big play offenses in the NFL before
Speaker 1: this game. Do you see them? Is maybe like the
Speaker 1: a f c S version of the Chiefs, considering they
Speaker 1: have Rogers, Aaron Jones, Davante Adams and then a defense
Speaker 1: that has been improving for the past month. I you know,
Speaker 1: I think I'm with Mark, because Mark, you were getting
Speaker 1: agitated watching this game. You don't like either of these teams.
Speaker 1: You don't view either team, don't back off your a
Speaker 1: serious super Bowl threat. And I don't necessarily disagree with
Speaker 1: you because it does feel like the Packers, despite the
Speaker 1: twelve and three record, they feel like a step below,
Speaker 1: which I don't think about the Chiefs. I think the
Speaker 1: Chiefs or a team uh that can absolutely make major
Speaker 1: noise all the way to Miami potentially if things break
Speaker 1: the right way. I think both things can be true.
Speaker 1: Though I think they are a step below the Saints
Speaker 1: and the forty Niners, and that if they get the
Speaker 1: one seed and they're you know they're gonna get the
Speaker 1: two seeds, can Mike Patton and them win a home game.
Speaker 1: But that's a very greg answer because you can see them.
Speaker 1: It's happen on our planet. But I like, in terms
Speaker 1: of when we're really who, where does our belief fall?
Speaker 1: The Green Bay tonight was a couple of bad players
Speaker 1: from losing this game. Also because their offense was defunct
Speaker 1: for for two plus quarters, they still move the ball through.
Speaker 1: I just think they dominated the game. I mean they
Speaker 1: had three three yards. There was a couple of nice
Speaker 1: defensive players where you knocked the ball out of Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones Davante Adams's hand. But ultimately they did what they
Speaker 1: needed to do. They came in there and they've embarrassed
Speaker 1: there and they didn't dominate the first half where they
Speaker 1: have three turnovers and are doing nothing on offense and
Speaker 1: putting up field goals. But I hear you that, like,
Speaker 1: there's no question that they are the better team of
Speaker 1: this situation. But I struggle with them as a second
Speaker 1: seed when I have the Saints and the Niners out
Speaker 1: there in that field could be number one. I mean,
Speaker 1: Seattle beating in Francisco next week is not to that
Speaker 1: that and Wes, you know, we we did go at
Speaker 1: it a little bit on Cousins, but this kills him.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is I totally agree whether whether what
Speaker 1: you're the point you're making that people get too hung
Speaker 1: up on where he stands when the team fails. Whatever
Speaker 1: the viewpoint is this, whatever people thought, and the majority
Speaker 1: of people who view him as a guy that comes
Speaker 1: up small when it matters and when the when the
Speaker 1: spotlights on to average less than four yards attempt an attempt,
Speaker 1: and if you also factor in going into this game,
Speaker 1: if you do believe Cousins is a guy that does
Speaker 1: come up small. When you saw that Dalvin Cook was
Speaker 1: out and then you saw that Madison was out, it
Speaker 1: was very clear at that point the Cousins was gonna
Speaker 1: need to do what Carson Wentz has done quite frankly
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia these last few weeks, which is put the
Speaker 1: team on his back. And I guess, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: just so much evidence, and I know your argument has
Speaker 1: never been like, well he can do it, he just
Speaker 1: hasn't done it yet, that the evidence is there that
Speaker 1: that's he's just never gonna be that guy. And maybe
Speaker 1: that all changes the next month, but this just continues
Speaker 1: to hammer home that legacy that in prime time against
Speaker 1: good teams, uh, he will come up small. Because he
Speaker 1: is one of the people who did come up small
Speaker 1: for the Vikings tonight. Absolutely well, your argument has been
Speaker 1: that he's a statistical monster who comes up small, and
Speaker 1: I've got no problem with that. My my defense of
Speaker 1: him has been about shoehorning that argument into the conversation.
Speaker 1: He is not a quarterback like Jamis Winston where he
Speaker 1: leaves his fingerprints all over every game. Some games he's
Speaker 1: not needed to be the story, and he still ends
Speaker 1: up being the story. So that's where my and I
Speaker 1: think that's where you guys are closer to agreement, as
Speaker 1: he can't lift the team by himself, and I think
Speaker 1: the coaching staff is, you know, as part of it,
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski. It's like that whatever their plan was it
Speaker 1: clearly didn't work. Mike Patton had him, had him dialed
Speaker 1: up in Kenny Clark and especially Zadarius Smith, you know,
Speaker 1: busted them in Ada Minnesota's number, and that he had
Speaker 1: a target tonight and he didn't have a catch. And
Speaker 1: so suddenly you're down feeling he's on the field, but
Speaker 1: it's not really feeling and you're down cook and it
Speaker 1: is a different time. I see this. Also, I don't
Speaker 1: feel like Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers on any level
Speaker 1: at this point. He does not seem like the same
Speaker 1: guy to me. Right now, you didn't throw a touchdown tonight, Well,
Speaker 1: they lost the Davante Adams touch touchdown that he threw
Speaker 1: behind him. And there was a similar play where he
Speaker 1: threw behind Aaron Jones on a big third down early.
Speaker 1: Those are supposed to be easy passed. And speaking of
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, I don't even know how the Pro Bowls voted.
Speaker 1: I think fans do it on Twitter by hitting retweet
Speaker 1: or something. But come on now and fans, I'll have
Speaker 1: a contribution, alright. Cool, But even that scientific twenty three
Speaker 1: carries a hundred and fifty four yards two touchdowns in
Speaker 1: a money game and He's been doing it all year.
Speaker 1: He leads the league in the leads the league in touchdowns.
Speaker 1: And I know Zeke statistically has had a nice season,
Speaker 1: but if you've been watching these games, you know that
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones has been kind of a bigger figure in
Speaker 1: the NFL than Zeke the year, and he deserves to be.
Speaker 1: He gets the gift of going to Orlando if I
Speaker 1: make the decision, but I do not make the decision.
Speaker 1: I think some of these players are happy not to go.
Speaker 1: Orlando is a somewhat okay city, but some are fine
Speaker 1: not not might be trying to be busy. I think
Speaker 1: he might be coming with us to Miami and he's
Speaker 1: only gotta win two games, maybe two home games. The
Speaker 1: garage is unanimous in the opinion that it should be
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones overseas. Yes, any other final thoughts on this
Speaker 1: game before we do some news? All right, I'll take that, Dad.
Speaker 1: Do you have any final thoughts? Oh? Yeah, you you
Speaker 1: were a little critical, um, Mr hanss Keith, and I
Speaker 1: call you um about Aaron Rodgers early. You had a
Speaker 1: particular theory how he interacts with his team. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: my feeling when Aaron Rodgers is that you know, when
Speaker 1: things are going good, you know he's missed a good guy.
Speaker 1: But when things are not going so good, he is
Speaker 1: certainly not the same guy that you see on the
Speaker 1: sidelines that's frowning at people and looking looking the other way,
Speaker 1: old man that lays aim on others. That's right. And
Speaker 1: also the way he handled the coach last year, uh,
Speaker 1: not listening to the play called and Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 1: treating him terribly shows me that I just don't think
Speaker 1: he's the kind of man that you know, that everyone
Speaker 1: talks about. And some would say that you have like
Speaker 1: supruter level film evidence of that on the sideline over
Speaker 1: many games, So I think that's that's fair. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you he's a great quarterback. I will say that,
Speaker 1: there's no question about that. But that's my attitude about him.
Speaker 1: That see that's a hot take and I like it.
Speaker 1: Keith hands of the take. You're keep his right. But
Speaker 1: this feels like one of those days seasons where things
Speaker 1: are going right, you know. I mean, they've had a
Speaker 1: lot of luck this season. They're twelve and three without
Speaker 1: you know, looking like a great team. They're very likely
Speaker 1: going to be hosting a game in the divisional round.
Speaker 1: But you said it, Greig. They don't have a they
Speaker 1: don't have a fleet of signature wins, you know, but
Speaker 1: they have swept. But they're five in the division And
Speaker 1: what more can you ask from Matt lafloora one. They
Speaker 1: don't like have that like body of resume. But it's
Speaker 1: not like voting to get you in there. Just gonna
Speaker 1: be hosting a game in Lambeau and the winner of
Speaker 1: that game is going to be playing in the end.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like one degree. And they have a
Speaker 1: defense that's hot and a quarterback you know, can get
Speaker 1: hot at a moment's notice and drop a game winning
Speaker 1: throw like the one he made to Jared Cook. He
Speaker 1: can do that in a moment. They got enough weapons,
Speaker 1: Adams Jones. They got enough weapons and protection. What happens
Speaker 1: when the bohemians, bohemian culture and the blow hearts come
Speaker 1: in and spoil this little party, that would be outrageous.
Speaker 1: I would not put anything by the bohemian culture and
Speaker 1: the blowhards. All right, that's going on that game. Now,
Speaker 1: let's get into some news. I'm here so I won't
Speaker 1: get fine. All right, let's start with some uh interview
Speaker 1: head coach interview heat Mike McCarthy, who, yes, as Keith
Speaker 1: Hansas mentioned, got basically railroaded by Aaron Rodgers Rogers down
Speaker 1: the stretch of that run in Green Bay. H He
Speaker 1: has sat out of football for a year and now
Speaker 1: he is looking to get back in the game, and
Speaker 1: he interviewed with the Carolina Panthers. Mike Garafolo reported that
Speaker 1: what's everybody laughing about just that he was very I mean,
Speaker 1: uh to be fair, Keith, I mean, let's let's uh
Speaker 1: freshen up those Mike McCarthy playbooks. Shaw the most boring
Speaker 1: predictable offense. I've ever seen, one of the great quarterbacks
Speaker 1: of all time. And I would have been calling for
Speaker 1: him to be out of town for three or four years.
Speaker 1: So I was on Aaron Rodgers side there, all right.
Speaker 1: Very predictable, very predictable anyway. Mike Carefolo reported the Panthers
Speaker 1: interviewed Mike McCarthy after Caroline has lost to the Colts
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Uh. McCarthy, of course fired by the Packers
Speaker 1: near the end of last season. Uh. He spent two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen out of football, and of course, you know,
Speaker 1: the best thing he could have done. And this is
Speaker 1: been all very calculated by McCarthy and the people that
Speaker 1: he works with. Was uh kind of laylow, let it,
Speaker 1: let the resume kind of simmer on the back burner,
Speaker 1: and then when teams start firing head coaches at the
Speaker 1: end of the year, Uh, put that resume out there
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, adive and seventy seven in
Speaker 1: thirteen seasons and uh ten wins in the playoffs and
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl title. All of a sudden, he looks
Speaker 1: like a better coach option than maybe he did last year.
Speaker 1: And the Panthers, because they, you know, dumped Ron Rivera,
Speaker 1: they have a bit of a head start on some
Speaker 1: of these other teams that will uh hire fire coaches.
Speaker 1: Uh does this feel like a fit West? I know
Speaker 1: you're not that high McCarthy either. Well, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a PR campaign this savvy since James
Speaker 1: Carville was running Clinton. I mean, whatever McCarthy does, if
Speaker 1: he sneezes, we got reporters reporting on it breathlessly. I
Speaker 1: don't like. To me, he's not He's a little stale,
Speaker 1: and I'm not really that interested in where he's interviewing.
Speaker 1: That's just my opinion. The one thing I'd say is
Speaker 1: that he probably represents two owners looking for interviews, a
Speaker 1: secure veteran coach, which there are only a few of
Speaker 1: out there right now. And you know, when I think
Speaker 1: of Mike Petton, I did a piece while back called
Speaker 1: the Sojourn Year where coaches that vanished for a season
Speaker 1: and what do they do with that year? And Patton
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that he felt that his own
Speaker 1: game planning and view of the game had become a
Speaker 1: bit narrow, and that he took that year to examine
Speaker 1: the same way that we would every single team and
Speaker 1: offenses and defenses around the league, and he grew and
Speaker 1: Patton's come back and reshaped his career from it. So
Speaker 1: can Mike McCarthy do that intellectually and as a coach,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I understand why owners would be
Speaker 1: attracted to someone with his track record. He he wanted
Speaker 1: back in right away. There wasn't a ton of interest,
Speaker 1: you know, a year ago. He'll get interviews. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I, you know, would would guess that he's
Speaker 1: going to get a job. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's guaranteed, and I don't think the Panthers are necessarily
Speaker 1: a big fit, especially if you're keeping Cam Newton. But
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you interview him right now? You have you
Speaker 1: have time to kill your David Tepper like interview. Isn't
Speaker 1: that why you as many people as possible? And he
Speaker 1: makes sense to interview, But I guess I'd be surprised
Speaker 1: if he got one of the better jobs available. I
Speaker 1: think you'll get a job. I know Ron Rivera is
Speaker 1: going to get a job. I think McCarthy will too.
Speaker 1: I feel i'd be very surprised if he didn't. Quite frankly,
Speaker 1: I mean, I could be wrong, I could be reading
Speaker 1: it wrong, but I think there's gonna be an owner
Speaker 1: that's gonna buy into Like I said that backburner warmed
Speaker 1: up resume, and it's gonna be something that sways them. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, we want somebody that knows what
Speaker 1: they're your Cleveland Browns market again, profession on here that
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, that has experience that the players
Speaker 1: will respect, whether they actually do or not. As a
Speaker 1: different conversation, they had ties to him. They're one of
Speaker 1: the teams that didn't even go out of the way
Speaker 1: to interview. I think that if you're a fan, that's
Speaker 1: sort of you know, toiled with a struggling team for
Speaker 1: a really long time. And the the other side of
Speaker 1: the pr thing with Mike McCarthy leaving Green Bay was
Speaker 1: so evil and so like unfriendly towards him that I'd
Speaker 1: be concerned as a fan just rolling Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 1: his head coach and wondering what will be different than
Speaker 1: what everyone was saying about it about at the end
Speaker 1: of his Packers run. When you're when you're buying Riverboat,
Speaker 1: you're buying his leadership and the way all his players
Speaker 1: go to bat for him and love him. When you're
Speaker 1: buying Mike McCarthy, you're buying his offense. And what's to
Speaker 1: say for his offense over the last couple of years. Well,
Speaker 1: he does have that street named after Mike McCarthy way so,
Speaker 1: and do you know, I got it. He's got a ring.
Speaker 1: He's got a ring that carries weight, is all I'm
Speaker 1: saying that. That's saying he's a good coach with the
Speaker 1: six seeded UH Packers team. No One's upcoming because a
Speaker 1: long time ago that should be said as well. All right.
Speaker 1: In other news, Yes, that Mountain Rushmore. Let's get back
Speaker 1: to that is Marshawn Lynch on the amount Rushmore of
Speaker 1: the most popular NFL players in the last twenty years. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think popula. I think she's different famous to popular.
Speaker 1: He's he's in the mix. But I would still say, now, hmm,
Speaker 1: I mean to me when I think of the last
Speaker 1: ten years, at least he's someone who has more memories
Speaker 1: attached to him than almost like other players. Guess what, Mark,
Speaker 1: More memories are coming. Because the running back and the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks agreed to a deal. On Monday, Lynch's agent
Speaker 1: announced Lynch's contract is for this season only, which means
Speaker 1: Week seventeen against the Niners and the playoffs. Uh. The
Speaker 1: Seahawks also signed Robert Turban, another old war horse for them.
Speaker 1: He spent the first three NFL season and rob is
Speaker 1: coming back from Kristin Michael's uh Sean Alexander and Alexander
Speaker 1: two thousand six MVPs back no the original Kurt Warner,
Speaker 1: but the original Currt Warner, Lynch and Turban phil backfield
Speaker 1: spots that opened Sunday when Chris Carson and c J.
Speaker 1: Prosise both went down with season ending injuries. We talked
Speaker 1: about Mark on Sunday Night Show that nobody had a
Speaker 1: worse Sunday uh than the Seahawks. And let's not act
Speaker 1: like this is prime Marshawn Lynch coming into town to
Speaker 1: save the day. But you know what, it's a little
Speaker 1: bit of juice to It was a little bit of
Speaker 1: fun and you know, a dollop of sprinkle of Christmas
Speaker 1: happiness on an otherwise grim scenario for seeing I mean,
Speaker 1: I love I I totally. It can easily fall in
Speaker 1: love with the concept in the narrative of the whole thing.
Speaker 1: There were there, you know, from another angle. When I
Speaker 1: was in Oakland last week covering the last Raiders game,
Speaker 1: he was also there doing apparently shots with fans, So
Speaker 1: I don't know what where the football shape is it.
Speaker 1: Also West, you know it's during right in the middle
Speaker 1: of Super Bowl fifty. West was ordered to write the
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch retirement story when he hung his cleats and
Speaker 1: took a photo. And now I think that Western have
Speaker 1: to go into our CMS system, probably tonight and update
Speaker 1: that story and add some new some new graphs. Please well,
Speaker 1: let me put that in another way. I wrote this
Speaker 1: man's retirement story before I had cancer. That's how speak
Speaker 1: of West. My concern Marshawn Lynch, who maybe, hey, maybe
Speaker 1: he's been a gym rat the last eight months or
Speaker 1: whatever since he retired, but that he is. He is
Speaker 1: a guy that is in danger of sustaining the worst
Speaker 1: hamstring injury since Chris Westling rounding second for the Shield
Speaker 1: of Season. I mean where the hamstring actually jumps off
Speaker 1: the bone and screams in Agony's not like a dry twig.
Speaker 1: We don't want that to happen. But the in seriousness,
Speaker 1: the idea that you're gonna have Lynch contributing you you
Speaker 1: take him out of retire and pluck him into basically
Speaker 1: a playoff scenario in week seventeen and then January. I
Speaker 1: wonder how much work he'll actually get in this offense.
Speaker 1: You're figuring he would split the reps with Travis Homer,
Speaker 1: who was there, who was their fourth string back, and
Speaker 1: then Turbine. You're probably not giving him. But it's amazing.
Speaker 1: I applaud Pete Carroll for the theatricality of it, for
Speaker 1: the is this the time for that? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it is just your what your alternative? You
Speaker 1: had the worst that you could possibly have. This is
Speaker 1: gonna give juice to the locker room. And not that
Speaker 1: that's gonna make them win or not, but it's like, what,
Speaker 1: why not the worst running back that they could just
Speaker 1: sign off the street. That's like, the next guy up
Speaker 1: is not gonna be better than the fifteen percent chance
Speaker 1: that maybe Lynch just does something great. He did run
Speaker 1: pretty well with the Raiders. I thought he did. We
Speaker 1: gave him a little credit that he was running pretty
Speaker 1: well before. He think there are another universe that we
Speaker 1: live in where he's suddenly a week from now having
Speaker 1: rumbled for a hundred and forty yards two touchdowns. Well
Speaker 1: well maybe like maybe like a seven yard touchdown. He
Speaker 1: goes three for sixteen with a seven yard touchdown and
Speaker 1: he and he just becomes a factor. And you know what,
Speaker 1: they're not my team. I'm not working for them, like
Speaker 1: he's giving it to the rest of the football fans
Speaker 1: just as a nice fun story. It's like something a
Speaker 1: team would do, like, but they're trying to win the
Speaker 1: super Bowl here. But what look, I guess how I'm
Speaker 1: not against it. I'm just I want everyone to temp
Speaker 1: for expectation of the other. What does Travis Homer way
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy found pounds. Pete Carroll has a
Speaker 1: formula and he has talked about this. He talked about
Speaker 1: this over the summer when I when our team wasn't
Speaker 1: doing well, it was because we didn't have a power
Speaker 1: running game. We did not support our quarterback. And our
Speaker 1: formula for playing is defense, power running, and support the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line isn't built to protect Russell Wilson, is
Speaker 1: built to open lanes for power runners. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if Travis Homer is that guy. But there's a
Speaker 1: number three overall pick that is several years younger available power.
Speaker 1: Richardson off the elevator. Here, here's my point. That's three
Speaker 1: point three yards per carry career. But he led the
Speaker 1: a f and touchdowns just last year. All right, here
Speaker 1: the last three running backs that have been signed off
Speaker 1: of waivers or a practice quad so a p Ryan,
Speaker 1: Kenneth Dixon and uh, it doesn't even matter Rod Smith?
Speaker 1: So can is there like a fifteen percent chance that
Speaker 1: Marshall Lynch is way better than those guys? It's like,
Speaker 1: why not? I agree? I'm just saying everybody don't expect
Speaker 1: a beast quake I'm expecting it. It's more like it. It
Speaker 1: It will be a cart coming from the man. That's all.
Speaker 1: We cannot shake Mark's expectations. I'm excited about this. This
Speaker 1: is one of the one of the better things that's
Speaker 1: happened on Sunday night football against that delicious You wouldn't
Speaker 1: need to go through it. But this feels like the
Speaker 1: best season finale for Alan Chris since they started this game.
Speaker 1: I can't remember a better a better one than Seahawks
Speaker 1: forty niners. Moving on, the Ravens clinched everything on Sunday.
Speaker 1: They are the number one seed in the a f
Speaker 1: C and as expected, um Lamar Jackson and several other
Speaker 1: starters will not be playing against the Steelers in Week seventeen. Jackson,
Speaker 1: of course, mark Ingram, who by the way, has a
Speaker 1: strained calf, which by the way is actually, you know,
Speaker 1: technically a torn calf muscle, and he left the stadium
Speaker 1: in a boot yesterday. And with this week off and
Speaker 1: then the bye, he gets extended time to rest and recover,
Speaker 1: uh and rehab. But we'll see whether he's mark Ingram
Speaker 1: come playoff time for the Ravens. But this obviously makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense Uh. And then on the flip
Speaker 1: side of that, you have Bill O'Brien of the Houston Texans, who,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that the Texans can't move really much
Speaker 1: at all, they are at the four seed. Uh in
Speaker 1: the a f C, they could get up to the
Speaker 1: three seed. Uh. He he is going to play his
Speaker 1: guys anyway. Uh. That feels that feels belichicky And from
Speaker 1: the disciple Greg, he did it last year. Well who
Speaker 1: did it last Bill O'Brien played his guys last year
Speaker 1: when he didn't have to end. I still don't believe
Speaker 1: him this year. I believe that he's gonna enter the
Speaker 1: first quarter with the starting lineup out there in depending
Speaker 1: on what happens in the early games, he's going to adjust.
Speaker 1: But Deshaun Watson was limping last game, grabbing at that
Speaker 1: ankle repeatedly. Will Fuller has a he's a growing pool.
Speaker 1: Sean says that will Fuller is likely out three weeks.
Speaker 1: So my point, basically, my point is you're receiving corps
Speaker 1: is already shallow. You're gonna risk an injury to either
Speaker 1: Stills or Hopkins. No, I don't. I don't believe that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen for four quarters. Yeah, the the quotes weren't
Speaker 1: as aggressive when you look, they weren't as definitive as
Speaker 1: I think people made them out to be. Aaron Wilson,
Speaker 1: who covers them every day, pointed out them playing to
Speaker 1: win still might mean them sitting some selective starters. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs game, you know, is the early in the early window,
Speaker 1: so they will know whether they can move up to
Speaker 1: the three seed. It's debatable whether they would even care
Speaker 1: that much about moving up to the three seed or not.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Chiefs would have to lose to the Chargers,
Speaker 1: which is unlikely anyways. I just don't think I have
Speaker 1: a big problem with doing it either way. Everyone thinks
Speaker 1: it's crazy to play your starters or to try to
Speaker 1: play to win or play most of them. And to me,
Speaker 1: there's only sixteen of them, and he doesn't think his
Speaker 1: team is playing that well right now, and there's you know,
Speaker 1: one way to get better at playing football as a
Speaker 1: team is to play football as a team. Like it
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel crazy to me if he went that, right.
Speaker 1: And I think that we you know, when we're looking
Speaker 1: at these teams week to week from a distance, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you we we were weighing the risk of losing, you know,
Speaker 1: a key player. But when you're a coach running a
Speaker 1: locker room and you have a team that is somewhat
Speaker 1: underperformed in the Texans where they've been up and down,
Speaker 1: I think there's some value to saying I'm not giving
Speaker 1: you a week off. I want to go see, at
Speaker 1: least for part of this game, go out there, practice
Speaker 1: and perform and show me that you're a playoff team
Speaker 1: Dedre Hopkins. Of course, before that, it's like he's getting
Speaker 1: in both ways. He's got the media reporting back to
Speaker 1: his team, we're going for it this week. So he's
Speaker 1: got his team riled up and they're all on board,
Speaker 1: and then in the first quarter he's gonna pull. And
Speaker 1: I make one last point on this is that I
Speaker 1: actually think it is a pretty big deal, uh getting
Speaker 1: that three seed, because if you get the three you
Speaker 1: might get the Oakland Raiders in your building in the
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs, or or Duck Hodges and
Speaker 1: the Steelers, who might be on fumes at this point,
Speaker 1: Duck Hodges on the road, or you might get the
Speaker 1: Titans again, which would would not you could beat the
Speaker 1: Titans in theory, and then get them again. That's a
Speaker 1: possibility to get the Beers again. Uh, whereas you know
Speaker 1: the four seed, uh is going to get the Bills right,
Speaker 1: and Bills are gonna be a tough out. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know if they're Super Bowl team, but I think
Speaker 1: that's a team that's destined to play a close, fast
Speaker 1: difference on wild Card weekend, that's a huge difference. Al right, Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see anything else. I also think the Ravens backups
Speaker 1: can absolutely beat the Steelers. You can only sit so
Speaker 1: many people. And I don't know if r G three
Speaker 1: is a is a better quarterback in Duck Hodges. I
Speaker 1: think he is. Do you think the backup offensive line
Speaker 1: can block t J? They only have eight, eight or
Speaker 1: nine offensive linemen. It's so yonda sitting it hard. I
Speaker 1: pointed out, like you can't. There's only so many people
Speaker 1: you can sit. And they're still gonna be like Ronnie's
Speaker 1: family is going to be out there for fourth, fourth quarters. Finally,
Speaker 1: in the news, Philip Rivers, who is thirty eight years
Speaker 1: old now it just turned thirty eighties and the final
Speaker 1: year of his contract. It's been a tough go with
Speaker 1: the Chargers and a lot of speculation that, uh, the
Speaker 1: Charges will move on from their quarterback after this season,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was pretty interesting after seventeen loss, reporters,
Speaker 1: you know, asked Rivers about his future and he was
Speaker 1: quite open about it and quite frankly, uh blunt in
Speaker 1: his assessment of himself and his future. Let's listen to that.
Speaker 1: But am I capable of it? Physically and mentally? There's
Speaker 1: no question? Yes, I do. I want to play football.
Speaker 1: Now I say yes, I want to play football, and
Speaker 1: I do. And that's when I feel deep down as
Speaker 1: I stand right here west so Rivers he wants he's
Speaker 1: coming back in because somebody, if not the Chargers, is
Speaker 1: gonna sign him. Do you think it's a fresh start
Speaker 1: on the way? And if you do think it's a
Speaker 1: fresh start, where's a good landing spot for Mr? Rivers?
Speaker 1: It's interesting you said the assumption. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people assume the COGNISCENTI assumes the Chargers want to
Speaker 1: move on. I think there's also some people who's who
Speaker 1: assumed before this that Rivers might just he and Eli
Speaker 1: go out together and call it a career because he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to play for anyone else. I could definitely
Speaker 1: see him moving back towards the southeast, where he's from,
Speaker 1: where his kids are gonna start high school in a
Speaker 1: couple of years, where he wants to coach. I think
Speaker 1: Tannehill has made the Titans probably an unlikely scenario, but
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, who are said to be wanting to
Speaker 1: move on from from cam Newton. He played college at
Speaker 1: NC State there, so that makes sense to me. I
Speaker 1: could see that. But I could also see the Chargers,
Speaker 1: even if their head coach is done with him, their
Speaker 1: GM saying, well, you want to put the franchise tag
Speaker 1: on him and see if anybody will raid for him.
Speaker 1: I got one for you. What about Jake Briskets struggling
Speaker 1: down the stretch with the Colts putting Phil Rivers in
Speaker 1: Indie with Frank Reich run that. I feel like that
Speaker 1: could work right midwestern town for his family. I hadn't
Speaker 1: thought of that, but I like it. There's some juice
Speaker 1: there and good offensive line. There is some talk of yeah,
Speaker 1: good offensive line, obviously a great offensive coach. Uh. They
Speaker 1: maybe give t Y Hilton some help there, they get
Speaker 1: healthy obviously of Marlon mac Maybe that's a good spend
Speaker 1: some time together. I believe with the Chargers. Yes they did. Ye,
Speaker 1: I would say this to You're not gonna get it.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get any quarterback, you know, heading into
Speaker 1: weeks seventeen telling people when he's got to go start
Speaker 1: in five or six days. I'm done with football. I'm
Speaker 1: not there mentally, like, no one know what athletes don't
Speaker 1: hit hit the way he talked about it, and sort
Speaker 1: of the typical Philip Rivers defiance. You could just tell
Speaker 1: he's playing. I mean he he said, well, the charges
Speaker 1: aren't gonna dictate when he retires. Let's sit it that one.
Speaker 1: He said, like, there's a natural human nature. You're thirty eight.
Speaker 1: You've thrown some bad interceptions for you to think about
Speaker 1: whether you can make these throws. And he said, none
Speaker 1: of that's true. I've made as many great throws this year.
Speaker 1: Whether he's right or wrong, he believes that as I
Speaker 1: made earlier in my career. I've made some throws that
Speaker 1: are better than ever. And he he is insulted by
Speaker 1: this suggestion that he's done. And whether the charges agree
Speaker 1: or not, I don't know. There's a weird situation. I
Speaker 1: think with you know, Tyrod Taylor is signed there next year.
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn has been with him before and good luck
Speaker 1: right at least that they have someone where they could
Speaker 1: up so Fi Stadium with Tyrod Taylor and a rookie
Speaker 1: and a rookie Navy you draft someone? Yeah, um, all right,
Speaker 1: let's see dad, what's going on to chewing that ice
Speaker 1: over there? Very loud? I'm sorry. Well, he's been waiting
Speaker 1: for our segment, which we've done a lot of which
Speaker 1: it's our top games of the nineteen seventies from nine.
Speaker 1: We're each gonna do twenty each, take a two or
Speaker 1: three minutes for each game. West, let's get a get
Speaker 1: us going well the Holy Roller that I want your
Speaker 1: thoughts if you could on Philip Rivers. We you were
Speaker 1: chewing the table a little bit today. Uh, we were
Speaker 1: watching Game Pass as well as I'm putting together the
Speaker 1: power ranks. Would you want Philip Rivers if you were
Speaker 1: the Cults or a coach that needed a little Upgradeer,
Speaker 1: Do you think he's shot? No? I think Rivers still
Speaker 1: has it, and I think he would be a good
Speaker 1: addition to the Colts. Uh. The Colts, look, if they
Speaker 1: had anybody they had a better quarterback, I think they
Speaker 1: would have definitely had nine or ten wins this year, so, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think he would be a great addition.
Speaker 1: I think his time in San Diego was over. And
Speaker 1: should Adhaim Gaze be back with the Jets. I don't
Speaker 1: know Gaze. I don't I don't particularly like Gaze, as
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a big Jet fan as you are.
Speaker 1: Then and uh, you know what, I don't particularly like him,
Speaker 1: but I have to say, you know, they were one
Speaker 1: in seven and now there's six and nine, so I'm
Speaker 1: have to be pretty pleased they haven't quit on if
Speaker 1: they haven't quit and he's got he's got. It seems
Speaker 1: like he's got the team behind him. But I've also
Speaker 1: heard some rumblings, uh in the locker room about him
Speaker 1: not being so popular with the team, but that happens, guy.
Speaker 1: I believe it was the report in Bleacher Report that
Speaker 1: Greg Williams the locker room respects but Gaze a bit
Speaker 1: of an act. But you know what, it also feels
Speaker 1: like that could have come straight from Greg Williams, whose
Speaker 1: lawyer Williams, Yeah, he just called up. He did the
Speaker 1: conference call and said that, um, you know, it was
Speaker 1: just disclosed there. Keith has a guest pass to the
Speaker 1: lab and Mark can't even get in the door. You know,
Speaker 1: there's so many situations that are should we give Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers um Keith boy the final word tonight? After after
Speaker 1: tonight's win, he said, it's great to win in the
Speaker 1: stadium after I was jeered a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: leaving the field with a broken collar bone. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: just like Phil Rivers, these great old quarterbacks, you know,
Speaker 1: they use slights his motivation, and sure enough, that's what
Speaker 1: happened tonight in Minneapolis. I mean if I got if
Speaker 1: I got booed after breaking my collar bone, that would
Speaker 1: that would stick with me too. Yeah, better than getting
Speaker 1: cheered for a broken collar bone. Right, all right, We
Speaker 1: will be back on Thursday with our Week seventeen Mark,
Speaker 1: you gotta be feeling it right now. Weeks seventeen preview
Speaker 1: show coming up. I like checkpoints, and that is a
Speaker 1: checkpoint where we take twenty teams and we're all in
Speaker 1: this giant clown car. We just we open those back
Speaker 1: door of the car and we just shoved twenty teams
Speaker 1: to the side of the highway and we keep rolling.
Speaker 1: I think of it as like all like a like
Speaker 1: a tuna net. And then just in a Superman way,
Speaker 1: three times around the head and then fly them into
Speaker 1: the sun like that they're gone. It's twenty of them anyway,
Speaker 1: so check that out when it comes again. Tickets available
Speaker 1: at the Miami Improv dot com slash events if you
Speaker 1: want to check out our live show on the Thursday
Speaker 1: before a Super Bowl. Um, that's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. And finally, uh, tomorrow is Christmas Eve, Christmas
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Merry Christmas to all of our listeners. Greg,
Speaker 1: I believe Hanakah is rolling now. I believe so in
Speaker 1: Japan out like, take us through what we've never We're
Speaker 1: not really a religious household in any way. We we've
Speaker 1: never celebrated hanak I mean I didn't as a kid either,
Speaker 1: but we celebrated our Christmas before they left, very good
Speaker 1: Rosenthal Christmas. My parents flew in. Uh and uh we
Speaker 1: did early. New Year's is the big holiday in Tokyo.
Speaker 1: So that's really why that's better put than Dan on
Speaker 1: the last year asking what the hook of Hanukkah was,
Speaker 1: as if it's not been around for right now? Uh,
Speaker 1: And yes, I'm lucky enough to have my dad Keith
Speaker 1: here and my mom uh as celebrating it. So we're
Speaker 1: very fortunate and yes, Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everyone.
Speaker 1: We will be back Thursday. Until then, this is Dan
Speaker 1: hands is signing off for see it's a different desk
Speaker 1: set up, so I gotta say quiet Storm, the mailman,
Speaker 1: the old Boss and Keith Hands this Clark's down High
Speaker 1: Class of seventy one. Yes until Thursday,