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Speaker 1: Brown's Daily, presented by Bally BTT, an official sports betting

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Can I interest you in a reasonable facsimile of both? Maybe? Maybe? Hi? Everybody,

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Speaker 2: hope you had a great weekend. In place of Bo,

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Speaker 2: who I'm envisioning right now is staring into the distance

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Speaker 2: in Montana, much like a transition scene in Yellowstone, arm

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Speaker 2: up on the fence, just a depensive stare to the horizon. Well.

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Speaker 2: Undoubtedly his kids, although not adult kids like in the show,

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Speaker 2: are fighting somewhere, maybe even punch his throne. In place

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Speaker 2: of Bo, you have me today. Hi, my name is

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Speaker 2: Andrew Ciciliano. Thanks for being here and in place of

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Speaker 2: one Nathan Zegura today. I don't know if his golf

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Speaker 2: game is as good, his hair game is definitely better.

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Speaker 2: That would be my partner, not only in the booth,

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Speaker 2: my other partner in the booth. We have many partners

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Speaker 2: in the booth. With my partner on the BPA, the

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Speaker 2: best pod available. He is the Georgia Mirrason to me,

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Speaker 2: Billy Crystal Jason Gibbs, how the heck are.

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Speaker 3: You, Ceciliano, it's a pleasure number one, number two, I'm

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Speaker 3: told that. I think it's a travel day for the

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Speaker 3: Bishop family.

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Speaker 2: Oh got it? Sorry, so no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: They were in Maryland for Lacrosse Madness all weekend and

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Speaker 3: then had a six hour drive home yesterday to turn

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Speaker 2: This morning, they did a drive back from Maryland. They

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Speaker 2: did the Pennsylvania Turnpike, they did the whole Breezewood thing,

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Speaker 2: and now they have to get on a plane undoubtedly

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Speaker 2: with a connection, because you're not flying Cleveland of Montana.

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Speaker 3: Diright, I'm pretty sure probably Minneapolis. That seems to be

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Speaker 3: the connection of choice.

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Speaker 2: So they're Delta family. I got it. But they had

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Speaker 2: to drive through Breezwood with kids in the back seat yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably. I bet that's going real well, and

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Speaker 3: I bet Bo is ready for another vacation without the

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Speaker 2: So I've never done that drive as an adult with

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Speaker 2: the kids in the back seat. I have been the

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Speaker 2: kid in the back seat for years because I grew

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Speaker 2: up not in Maryland, but down the road in Virginia

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Speaker 2: and we meaning me and my brother would be four

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Speaker 2: years the kids in the back seat going from the

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Speaker 2: DC area to Cleveland, going through Breezwood, getting stuck on

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Speaker 2: how many ever blocks of chain Red Strawn. Hell. That

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Speaker 2: was but as kids, you know, all those restaurants were

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Speaker 2: great and then eventually ending up at Northeast Ohio. But

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Speaker 2: those were the days. Either way, hope everyone had a

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Speaker 2: fantastic weekend. Bo and Nathan are back. I don't know when,

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Speaker 2: sometime soon, but today you get me and you get Gibbey,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, there is no good football news today.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing going on.

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Speaker 2: There is nothing going on to the football world because

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Speaker 2: this is the time of the calendar in which everybody

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Speaker 2: goes away. Now we could discuss your door, Sanders and

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Speaker 2: what happened with the speeding tickets. We can do that

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Speaker 2: because I know CBD was not on last week. We

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Speaker 2: can and we will discuss the Browns secondary Coming up

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Speaker 2: in this fabulous two hour radio program, we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: Brown's cornerback coach Brandon Lynch. That's an interview we did

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Speaker 2: about ten days ago when Brown's mandatory mini camp was

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Speaker 2: wrapping up. We'll say hey, do they actually have the

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Speaker 2: safeties in the room that they need in the room.

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Speaker 2: And we'll look at a corner depth as well. Huge

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Speaker 2: seasons coming up for both Greg Newsom and MJ Emerson

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Speaker 2: as they both are basically in their contract years, their

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Speaker 2: walk ears, and what do they do as the Browns

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Speaker 2: defense tries to get back to the number one defense

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Speaker 2: we saw back in twenty twenty three. But if you're

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Speaker 2: looking for some huge NFL headline today, I don't know

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Speaker 2: that we have it. We have tight End, you you know,

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Speaker 2: the thing that George Kittle got together a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago, meeting in Nashville. Tomorrow, ESPN and NFL Live

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Speaker 2: will be there, Laura Rutledge and Dani Rolofski and that

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Speaker 2: whole crew if you want to watch on the TV tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: No Browns tight ends, by the way, at at least

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Speaker 2: initially announced at tight End. You do I care? No,

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Speaker 2: I don't. We'll do that later. But let's get to

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Speaker 2: what went down this weekend, which is, oh yeah, by

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Speaker 2: are not rooting for anybody. I was not one of

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Speaker 2: If that's what you are, I totally get it. But

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Speaker 2: there's a difference between rooting against the Pacers and feeling

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Speaker 2: comfortable in your in your heart, and in your gut

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Speaker 2: as a sports fan as to how this went down.

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Speaker 2: If Indiana had been able to pull this off last

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Speaker 2: night at a game seven, and if you're just waking

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Speaker 2: up and you, I don't know, went on a bender

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. He didn't see what happened Oklahoma City

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Speaker 3: I did go on a bender, you did? I still

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Speaker 3: know a Gary bender, Not a Gary bender, but just

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Speaker 3: a bender. I was golfing in Niagara Falls for three days.

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Speaker 3: Ninety holes in three days, buddy, I'm sorry me and

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Speaker 3: I still know what what what went on last night?

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Speaker 3: Should I tell everybody?

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Speaker 4: Should know?

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Speaker 2: How the heck was your weekend portion of the show?

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Speaker 2: We get to the sports?

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Speaker 3: Nah, we got time, we got time. I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: Year, this year, but not ever obviously correct. Okay, would

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Speaker 2: you have watched it? Did you only watch because it

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Speaker 2: was Game seven?

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Speaker 2: And were you rooting against Indiana?

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Speaker 3: I actually, Jake Trotter will kill me, But congratulations to

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Speaker 3: the whole Trotter family. They're from Oklahoma City, and I

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Speaker 2: Say that moments ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was rooting for Indiana. I just

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Speaker 3: Going to their arena in Indianapolis is great. Their fans

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Speaker 3: We lost to the champions.

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Speaker 2: Okay, See, I'm not that kind of fan. Like for example,

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Speaker 2: So I was rooting against the Yankees, and I always

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Speaker 2: Full disclosure, although I'm not I've grown up. I'm an adult,

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm fifty, as Mike Gundy one said,

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Speaker 2: but you know, the Broncos ruined my childhood eighty six,

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Speaker 2: eighty seven, and eighty nine. I once told John Elway

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Speaker 3: I wanted to fight John Elway. I mean, would I

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Speaker 3: I can take this.

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Speaker 2: Steuche dude, come on, do you have to call him that?

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Speaker 2: I call him horse face? Actually, okay, I've never had

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Speaker 2: an issue with him personally. It's not his fault. They're

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Speaker 2: Rich Carlas's missed field goal was ruled good right, But.

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Speaker 3: You know it's the great I mean, I have to

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Speaker 2: It's the greatest miss field goal to ever send a

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Speaker 2: to a super Bowl, that is one of them. I digress.

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Speaker 2: I was not one of the people that was rooting

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Speaker 2: against Indiana. Go down their long basketball history of what ifs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what if Jordan wasn't there, what if the

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Speaker 2: of what is for the Indiana Pacers. What if Tyre's

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Speaker 2: Halliburton hadn't gotten hurt? Would they have won the game?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I was Therefore we're all there

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Speaker 2: game seven, you get a good meal going, you open

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Speaker 2: and we didn't get that's yeah, No, I was very sad.

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Speaker 3: I just I wanted something down the wire.

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Speaker 2: It was a gut punch and listen, I know there

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Speaker 2: are people that don't like him because he did the

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Speaker 2: choking sign more than a few times after hitting big

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Speaker 2: shots of the postseason. I totally get that. I know

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Speaker 2: there are people that don't like him because I don't

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Speaker 2: like the way his dad popped off. Totally get that

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Speaker 2: he's not his father. All right, Gibby, you're not your father.

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Speaker 2: Anyone listening to the car you're not your father as well,

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Speaker 2: So you know, cut him some slack on that. But

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Speaker 2: for Game seven and see the guy terror's achilles and go,

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Speaker 2: oh it happens, bad luck. No, no, no, no no,

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Speaker 2: there had been signs. Obviously, he only played twenty three

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Speaker 2: minutes in Game five. He wasn't much of a factor

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Speaker 2: in Game six. TJ. McConnell had to take over Game six. Right,

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Speaker 2: this had been building, This had been a legitimate injury concern.

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Speaker 2: He went out there for Game seven. Okay, we saw

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Speaker 2: Donavan Mitchell deal with a calf injury during the postseason

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Speaker 2: as well. They're real, they're legit. We've seen Kevin Durant

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Speaker 2: blow a calf. We've seen Jason Tatum blow a calf.

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Speaker 2: We've seen Damian Lillard blow a calf this year as well.

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Speaker 2: It happens. We obviously saw it for Deshaun Watson last

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Speaker 2: year in game in Week seven for the Browns at

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Speaker 2: to happen. It comes out of nowhere. If any of

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Speaker 2: you are in your thirties or forties, be careful when

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Speaker 2: you're out there on the pickup court.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, I mean, men of our agent.

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Speaker 2: Happens. It just happens, whether you're an elite, skinny legged

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Speaker 2: athlete like Tyree's Halliburton, whether you're the guy at the

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Speaker 2: Every time I played tennis, I tell my buddy, hey,

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Speaker 2: hit it right to me, because I ain't chasing that

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Speaker 2: ball to the corner. Are you kidding me? Right? I'm

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Speaker 2: not doing a sudden start and stop and the left

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Speaker 2: and the right and the lateral movement. I'm not. But

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Speaker 2: Tyre's Halliburton went out there for a game seven and

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Speaker 2: he played, because of course he played. Imagine if he

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Speaker 2: had not played. But he got hurt and we and

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Speaker 2: he not.

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Speaker 3: We.

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Speaker 2: It's not about us, it's about them. They, the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Pacers were robbed of a chance to win that championship. Now,

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Speaker 2: and they pulled away and they're a great team. Now, Please,

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Speaker 2: And the NBA is far, far, far worse than the

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Speaker 2: game seven to a championship. Both can be true. Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: we lose Game seven injury. This is a what do

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Exactly? How about this? How about this? Three NBA

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Speaker 3: stars in the postseason Lillard, Tatum, Halibern, all wear zero,

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Speaker 2: the game changing form that all three of those players

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Speaker 2: very fortunate to go to two game sevens NBA Game sevens.

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Speaker 2: They beat they beat the Pistons in Game seven in

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Speaker 2: want to get on a plane, like for what Game seven?

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Speaker 2: we were denied the game seven last night we Indiana.

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Speaker 3: But we talked about this when you were in town

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Speaker 3: because of your father and your grandparents. Correct, But like

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Speaker 2: Right. I break things in my house and have over

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Speaker 2: the years, and I have actual scars on my right hand.

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Speaker 2: Right here, the two Browns team and foge Fasio may

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Speaker 2: in the postseason. Dennis north Cutt still could have won it,

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Speaker 2: You know what if Tony Fernandez didn't boot that ball

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Speaker 2: Now in twenty sixteen with the Cavs one Game seven, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Congratulations on all your successes than.

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Speaker 2: You, No, no, I was. I had just come down

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Speaker 2: was obviously watching Game seven. When I got there, there

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Speaker 3: I was like, hey, all right.

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Speaker 2: We made instant friends, watched Game seven, Calves won, closed

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Speaker 2: obviously it was a weight lifted off every everybody in town. Yes,

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Speaker 2: be a little bit more emotional. That celebration sixteen was amazing,

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Speaker 2: if he doesn't root for the Calves. He does. But

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Speaker 3: That makes sense, No, yeah, no, no, no, no, I get it.

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Speaker 3: I understand, you know it. It sucks that we weren't

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Speaker 3: playing in that in that game last night, Yes, it does.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is. That had an amazing year

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Speaker 3: and came up way too short.

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Speaker 2: And that's in no way me trying to downplay the

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Speaker 2: All the pieces were in pieces. At the end of

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Speaker 2: Now when you hear the Cavs name thrown around with

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Speaker 4: For what?

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Speaker 2: As Rooky Waters would say, you know what would that

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Speaker 2: Durant is now going to the Houston Rockets. For Calves

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Speaker 2: fans that say we could have should have had Durant,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you he's gonna be thirty seven and

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Speaker 2: he has an expiring contract. Okay, he's gonna be thirty

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Speaker 2: seven before the season begins. You really want a thirty

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Speaker 2: I don't. Okay. I'm not saying he's a bad guy.

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Speaker 2: He isn't. There's a reason he's going to his fifth team. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't want Kevin Durant. If you did, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I don't blame you. And I know that you might

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Speaker 2: You have to mix it up somehow, that's fine, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think Kevin Durant was the move. I

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Speaker 2: Cavs perspective, that was the move. Houston gives up Jalen Green,

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Speaker 3: What does that even mean? What second round picks actually

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, NBA trades with the draft picks, taking

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Speaker 2: develop in five years. Look, plenty of second round picks

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Speaker 2: have turned out okay, but ninety five percent of them

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Speaker 2: picks in the NFL, that's a whole.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: In the NFL you can only trade three drafts out,

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Speaker 2: So if you were to trade five second round picks,

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Speaker 2: that would mean you had multiple second round picks in

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Speaker 2: this year and next. You can't do that trade in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. They don't allow you to do that trade.

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Speaker 2: But I just want to say this, and I did

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Speaker 2: this on Twitter as well, and the TikTok and everything

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Speaker 2: last night, for all of these people that were yelling

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Speaker 2: For everyone that looked at that trade yesterday and go,

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Speaker 2: ah have five second round picks, they're just throwing as

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Speaker 2: they mean nothing, like who cares about these five second

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Speaker 2: round picks? I'm with you, But you're the same people

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Speaker 2: that were furious when Bronny got taken by the Lakers

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Speaker 2: with a fifty fifth overall pick last year. How dare

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Speaker 2: you waste a second round pick on that guy? I mean,

431
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 2: stop it. You just don't like Lebron, Right, you can't

432
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: be outraged about the fifty fifth overall pick last year

433
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: being Lebron James Junior and at the same time, tell

434
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Speaker 2: me add these five second round picks for Kevin Durant

435
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: are just meaningless. You can't have it both way. Friends,

436
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: Just face it. You didn't like Lebron and you wanted

437
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: to be outraged, right, and Cavs fans Lakers fans. I'm

438
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: in LA today game. If the Lakers want to take

439
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 2: Lebron's kid, fine, I don't. I don't care to do

440
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: what they say. The guy's done enough for the league.

441
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Speaker 3: I just think it well, and I don't know what

442
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: Browni's career is going to evolve into. Who knows they

443
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 3: took him in the second round. You know, this is

444
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 3: what I know. Kevin Durant average twenty six point six

445
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 3: points a game, six rebounds, four point two assists, pretty

446
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: good numbers at his age. He played sixty two games

447
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: this year, played seventy five last year. In the five

448
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 3: years prior, thirty five, fifty five, thirty nine eight. That's

449
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 3: actually four years public school math.

450
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Speaker 2: Sorry, and again he's going to be thirty seven before

451
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Speaker 2: the news.

452
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 3: I don't like, what are you getting. I we know

453
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 3: what he can do when he's healthy, but he's on

454
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Speaker 3: the back end of the career.

455
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: He's on the back nine, and you're getting a first

456
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Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer.

457
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: And I and I think there's always drama with him.

458
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 3: I don't think he's ever happier content.

459
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: He's never happier content, And he hangs on social media

460
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: all day, sometimes with a burner, telling people that he's

461
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: not happy or content.

462
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 3: Almost got into a fight with Kevin Durant in a pregame.

463
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Speaker 3: Interviewed at the queue.

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Speaker 2: You did, yep, why?

465
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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's why I have some venom.

466
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Speaker 2: For I don't have any personal animus towards him. Final thought,

467
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: like Kevin Durant. I don't know if you guys saw

468
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Speaker 2: the video. So the Fanatics Fest, the big Michael Ruben thing,

469
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: great Jabit Center, like giant Card show and all, you know,

470
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: all these big names are there making appearances. I have

471
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Speaker 2: friends who took their kids there, said like amazing, like

472
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Speaker 2: amazing event anywhere. Kevin Durant. Anyway, Kevin Durant was on

473
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Speaker 2: stage yesterday with Taylor Rook's Front of the Program from Amazon,

474
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: just doing like what we call like a chalk talk.

475
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: You know, a bunch of people there listening interview on

476
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Speaker 2: stage that kind of thing, live pod whatever, and everyone

477
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: who has their phones out just taping segments anywhere, taping

478
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: stuff just because that's what we do. Everyone started seeing

479
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: on their phones at the trade had gone down that

480
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 2: he was going to the Houston Rockets, and people start

481
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: yelling and they're holding their phones up. So you see

482
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: all these videos from in the crowd of everyone holding

483
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: their phone up and you hear people yelling you got

484
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: traded at Kevin Durant, and he's hearing it, and he

485
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: actually yells back where like what like he didn't know

486
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: now he knew that the Rockets were one of the possibilities.

487
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 2: He didn't know. Taylor Rooks is up there imagining yourself,

488
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 2: Gibbie in the host position, Like what do I do?

489
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Speaker 2: Because now people are yelling to the rockets at Kevin

490
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: Durant and he's kind of smiling, he's holding a mic,

491
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: but he also has this stunned look on his face

492
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Speaker 2: and he goes like is this real? And then everyone's

493
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: yelling at the rockets and Taylor looks she didn't look

494
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: at her phone, but like, clearly this is what happened.

495
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: You couldn't have all these people making this up. And

496
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: Durant was like, well, okay, like, well, we'll see what happens,

497
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: and then Taylor now has to.

498
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Speaker 3: Pivot, like ask his reaction.

499
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: He says, we'll see what happens, and then she's got

500
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: to finish their stage time with whatever else she had planned,

501
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: and like, as a host, do you go, okay, do

502
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: I go down this path it's not confirmed? Do I

503
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: let this guy let it sink in? And then I

504
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: don't know if you ever watched the show the Charlie

505
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 2: Pooker Show on What the show Black Mirror on Netflix.

506
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 3: Have not seen?

507
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: Okay, it's about ten years old. Now there's been like

508
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: five seasons. It is the most head messing I'll say

509
00:27:53,960 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: that cleanly mess with your head. Dystopian technology like Twilight Zone,

510
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: an esque show. It's brilliant television. It was a scene

511
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: out of Black Mirror. It's like we're on stage or

512
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: we're in a zoo and all the people are there

513
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 2: yelling at you, holding the phone to see how you react.

514
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: It was wild. It was twenty twenty five technology, dystopian.

515
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: We're all animals to be poked and prodded. I can't

516
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 2: imagine being in that situation anyway.

517
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Speaker 3: That's it. You've paid, he's booked. There's probably been a

518
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: lot of money thrown at him to make this appear.

519
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: Of course, you can't just let him leave in a

520
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: moment where he probably needs a few minutes to let it.

521
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: I get it, to comprehend it. You got to be like,

522
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: now you're going to stay here. We're going to talk

523
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Speaker 3: through a few more things. We're gonna talk through a

524
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Speaker 3: few more things here as well.

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Speaker 2: Coming up. Should you care about should or Sanders and

526
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: the speeding tickets? I think the answer is yes. But

527
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Speaker 2: also what front of the program Daniel Genreal Maya had

528
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: to say about who he thinks will be the Browns

529
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: starting quarterback Week one at Huntington Bank Field against the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: That is coming up, and it's a Monday. That's Jason Gibbs.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrews Siliano. Cleveland Browns Daily is presented by bally Bet,

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Speaker 2: No Bo and no Nathan Today, it's in their place,

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Speaker 2: Beggar partner. It's Hi, Andrews Siliana and Jason Gibbs, everybody

538
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Speaker 2: on CBD. Let's uh, let's do the brown stuff here

539
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: and well no though, like it's gonna be the only

540
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: time we do it here. We got Brandon Lynch.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Well we'll end up. We'll eventually end up

542
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: with someone who tweets at us and it's like, are

543
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: you guys gonna talk football today?

544
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 4: Oh?

545
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. Okay, it's it's June twenty third.

546
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is no off season, but like this is

547
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: the week in which they're kind of is an off

548
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: season and last week should have been the same as well,

549
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: but we had the news obviously, with five teams not

550
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: named the brown still going through their final week of

551
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: the off season program that Jodor Sanders had been picked

552
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: up twice in the last couple of weeks for speeding,

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Speaker 2: including one the last one going one hundred and one

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Speaker 2: miles per hour on seventy one. There are a couple

555
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Speaker 2: of couple of parts of good news here, if you

556
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: want to spin it good news, maybe not good news.

557
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: Good news is nobody got hurt. Okay, that's that's the

558
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: most important thing. That's not an excuse. It's a hey,

559
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: thank god, nobody got hurt. We can all agree on that.

560
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Speaker 2: Number Two. There's no alcohol involved, right, there's no impairment.

561
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: This was just a kid who is speeding. I want

562
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Speaker 2: to make something very clear. I am not apologizing for

563
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: nor excusing the behavior. One hundred and one miles an

564
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: hour is dangerous. It's dangerous, it's poor judgment. It is

565
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: not putting the team first. In a window in which

566
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: all players from every team, including the Browns, have been warned,

567
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: whether it's by Kevin Stefanski or the thirty one other

568
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: head coaches, don't do anything stupid. Not all coaches put

569
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: it that way. But that's basically the message, and this

570
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: has been universal for rookies for vets since the dawna

571
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: time during this window when teams go away for vacation,

572
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: don't do anything stupid. Don't put the team in jeopardy,

573
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: but most importantly, don't put yourself or your family in jeopardy,

574
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: or don't put the people in your community around you

575
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Speaker 2: in jeopardy. Don't do anything stupid. From that standpoint, it

576
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: is disheartening, but thank god nobody got hurt. That said.

577
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: Raise your hand here. If you haven't been pulled over

578
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: for now, if you're driving, please don't take your hands

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Speaker 2: off the wheel.

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Speaker 3: Brock says he's never been pulled over for speeding.

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Speaker 2: Brock is what twenty one?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, he just turned twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Brock. Two things are happy birth number one, Happy

584
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Speaker 2: birthday number two. You should not aspire to be pulled

585
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Speaker 2: over for speeding. When I was twenty one, I had

586
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: not yet been pulled over for speeding. I'd been in

587
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: multiple cars where the driver had been pulled over, but

588
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: I had not been pulled over. Since then, I had

589
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: been pulled over multiple times for speeding. I'm not proud.

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Speaker 2: Of it. Okay, but I've done it. Young people like

591
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: to drive cars fast. Old people do as well. It's

592
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: not an excuse. Now. What is disheartening here, to me,

593
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Speaker 2: at least, is that there was a second instant. Right

594
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: one should knock a little bit of common sense into you.

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00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: The second one. That to me is bad judgment. Truly,

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00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: that's bad judgment, and that's inexcusable. Am I gonna kill

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00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: the kid for it?

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00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: No?

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00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: Am I gonna say he should be benched or tay,

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00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: he should lose reps, whatever reps he does have. No,

601
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: should there be internal team disciplined eyed? I don't think

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00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: that's the case.

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00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: This is a.

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Speaker 2: Speeding ticket, right, multiple speeding tickets. I bet you listening

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Speaker 2: if you had teenage kids, there's a chance that a

606
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: certain percentage of our audience right now with teenage kids.

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00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: Those kids have had multiple traffic infractions, multiple speeding tickets,

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Speaker 2: and you probably yelled and screamed at them, okay, don't

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Speaker 2: do this again, and they did. Now, is should or

610
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: Sanders a kid? No, he's young, though I use the kid.

611
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: I throw the word kid around loosely, right, but he

612
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: should know better? Yes? Does this say to me he

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00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: doesn't have the judgment or the leadership or the mature

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00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: to win the job and lead. Know, it doesn't anyone

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00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 2: who is taking a couple of speeding tickets and for

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Speaker 2: the sake of engagement or clicks, or for the sake

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Speaker 2: of spending time and filling air, and there's a lot

618
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: of air to fill these days, especially in the offseason

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Speaker 2: on hot take shows, saying that this somehow reflects on

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Speaker 2: his football future or his football judgment. They're full of it,

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Speaker 2: and they're lying to you because they probably don't believe it, okay,

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Speaker 2: and they're just filling time. They're just filling time. It

623
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Speaker 2: doesn't change who starts week one. It has no role

624
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Speaker 2: unless now Kevin Stefanski comes out and say, yeah, this

625
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 2: is inexcusable and he's not going to get the reps

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00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: that I was going to give him, come train again,

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00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: and that isn't gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: It just isn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's I've got, and I've gotten a

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Speaker 3: couple of speeding tickets.

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Speaker 2: I'm not the fastest you've ever gone. I don't speeding ticket.

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Speaker 3: It's a good question. I feel like probably I think

633
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: I got the last time I got pulled over and

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Speaker 3: it's gone knock one something plywood or whatever. Whatever. This

635
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 3: thing is right here, maybe seventy five and a sixty.

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00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: Oh wow, look at you. Look at you.

637
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Speaker 3: Just but I was on the highway. It was early morning.

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00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get somewhere. There was no one on

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Speaker 3: the road.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I'm saying, look at you getting

641
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Speaker 2: pulled over for not going that fast.

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00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I wasn't doing I don't think I've ever

643
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Speaker 3: done well stay trooper, end of the month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, I get that. Listen, I have gone one

645
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Speaker 2: hundred and one miles an hour. I didn't get pulled over.

646
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Speaker 2: I'm admitting, like, I'm not saying I was right to

647
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Speaker 2: do it. But I'll tell you where I was. I

648
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: was in the middle of the desert on a stretch

649
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Speaker 2: of highway, the fifteen freeway between Las Vegas and the

650
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Speaker 2: Arizona Utah border. If anyone's ever been on that stretch,

651
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Speaker 2: they have massive signs that say last services for like

652
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Speaker 2: forty miles, so like, if you need gas, if you

653
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: need water, if you need food, like you better get

654
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Speaker 2: off right here because the next stretch of highway is

655
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Speaker 2: as desolate as it gets. And I had a fast

656
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Speaker 2: car that I loved. I had an M three and

657
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: I opened that baby up right just to see what

658
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Speaker 2: it would do. And that that is the stretch of

659
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Speaker 2: highway where you do that. And I got it into

660
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Speaker 2: triple digits and I didn't pass anybody. You know why,

661
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: because there was nobody anywhere near me at all. The

662
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: only thing I would be hitten is an armadilla. Going

663
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: one on one on seventy one is a lot different.

664
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Speaker 2: We're both wrong, okay, but that's not the place you

665
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Speaker 2: do it, even if it's in the middle of the night,

666
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Speaker 2: because there are going to be people on the road.

667
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: They are. Speaking of the talking head shows, we have

668
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Speaker 2: Mike Tannebaum, all right, former Jets GM. He was on

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Speaker 2: NFL Live last week. Here's with you as the.

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Speaker 5: Head coach or the quarterback. You're the most important employee

671
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 5: of a six billion dollar enterprise, and how you handle

672
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 5: things on and off the field matter. And Mark Shaalrith

673
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 5: used to say Greene preseason games they don't count, but

674
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 5: they matter, and how you comport yourself off the field matters.

675
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 5: And to have this happen twice would be concerned. It's

676
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Speaker 5: not the end of the road, but let me bring

677
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 5: you into what typically happens at the end of this

678
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 5: time of year. You set your roster and your initial

679
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 5: sort of reps for training camp. And if they're sitting

680
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 5: there in Cleveland, Greenee and they're saying, Dylan Gabriel is

681
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 5: a third round pick, he's done well. Shador Sanders has

682
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 5: done well on the field, but he's had these two

683
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 5: issues off the field, albeit minor, they'll give more reps

684
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Speaker 5: to Dylan Gabriel. Remember, every general manager has one formula

685
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 5: on their board. Production equals tolerance, and as Groz mentioned,

686
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 5: he's a fifth round pick. He has not produced yet.

687
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Speaker 2: All Right, I don't think my mom is lying to you,

688
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: although I did say that before. I just don't know

689
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Speaker 2: that this is going to change things. I just don't

690
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Speaker 2: think it will.

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Speaker 3: Coybe, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, you get a stern talking to I assume he

693
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Speaker 2: did after the first one. So yeah, it's concerning that

694
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Speaker 2: there is a second. But you know what, guys, when

695
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Speaker 2: we get to training camp the third week of July,

696
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Speaker 2: I don't think that this matters. It will be a

697
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Speaker 2: talking point, you know, when Kevin has his introductory media

698
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: availability to open up camp, it will be a talking

699
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: point and there will be more than just one question,

700
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: and he will say that he's disappointed and that he's

701
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: talked to Shador and then that's it. And that's not

702
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: a comment on Kevin's media skills, quite the opposite. I

703
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: just think that's how they view it. And if I'm wrong,

704
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Speaker 2: I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, you don't want to do anything that's

706
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Speaker 3: going to reflect poorly upon you or your organization.

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Speaker 2: Which this yeah, more on you than the organization.

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00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 3: Correct, I don't think and I don't even know how

709
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 3: much it does. But the problem is the position you

710
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: play and what you do on this football team. Sure,

711
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 3: every little thing right now is being scrutinized up and

712
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: down by the local media, by the national media, by everyone,

713
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: because going into training camp, the Browns are going to

714
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Speaker 3: be a very popular topic of conversation around the NFL.

715
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Speaker 3: We're going to camp with four quarterbacks. Like you know,

716
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Speaker 3: you don't want to do something that paints you in

717
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Speaker 3: a in a negative way, in any way, shape or.

718
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Speaker 2: Form, the first time, should or with cameras rolling, whether

719
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Speaker 2: live on NFL Network or back together Saturday on ABC

720
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Speaker 2: and ESPN. I don't even know is that a thing

721
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: this year? I think it is oh yeah, oh yeah,

722
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Speaker 2: that's my live coverage on the Partners as well. I

723
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Speaker 2: don't know. I agree that first full Saturday of training

724
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Speaker 2: camp when everyone is on the field, when all teams

725
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: are mandated the twenty sixth of July, where all teams

726
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: have to be on the field. Speaking of some that

727
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 2: used to work for the network, that was an idea

728
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: that they came up with like three four years ago,

729
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: where we're gonna go live with all thirty two teams

730
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: at one point during the day and basically an eighteen

731
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: hour marathon. If at one point should Or Sanders throws

732
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: a touchdown in that live portion on television, it's all forgotten.

733
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Speaker 2: It's all forgotten by the national media, and that highlight

734
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: will be shown on a loop a thousand times, just

735
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Speaker 2: like the touchdown to Gauge Lardavan. Okay, I get you.

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Speaker 3: Still pulling that name out, Yeah, still working on that

737
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: name because you know you're gonna call it come training.

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Speaker 2: Oh and kidding me, Him and Floria are gonna get

739
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: how many touchdowns in the preseason the.

740
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Speaker 3: Over under like six and a half.

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Speaker 2: Look, just just buckle up, friends, because wherever you're listening

742
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: to this show, you right now have an opinion as

743
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 2: to who should and will, and they might be very different.

744
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: Should and will start week one. Okay, you are going

745
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: to be bombarded all day every day once camp opens

746
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 2: with people trying to convince you to change your mind.

747
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: I just preach caution. We have three days to join

748
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 2: practices Carolina and Philadelphia. We have three legitimately meaningful preseason

749
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: games for all of you. Last year, who got ang? Oh,

750
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: this team's not showing anything in the preseason. This team

751
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: isn't tough enough in the preseason. We're doing nothing like.

752
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be that way this year. All right, Now,

753
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: you can argue with whether or not we should have

754
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 2: QB trackers every day and how meaningful are those. Give

755
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: me a couple of drinks and I'll go off on

756
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: that if you want. Okay, but don't tell me they're

757
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 2: not meaningful preseason games. They'll be meaningful. I guarantee you

758
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: that we could argue what they mean in the moment.

759
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: It may or may not have been the OG quarterback

760
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: tracker for one John Paul Football, that's right. So I

761
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 3: look forward to that conversation when you're back in town

762
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 3: for training camp. Okay, I only did seven and seven

763
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: and eleven on eleven in pads? Was the ball caught?

764
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: Was it not caught? I didn't go through and try

765
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: to figure out it was only in training camp. It

766
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Speaker 3: wasn't in anything else.

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Speaker 2: Listen as Deuce Staley said. As Duce Staley said. Ten

768
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: days ago, when asked about uh, I believe asked, he

769
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: was asked about Quinchean, who has looked good by the way,

770
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: as has Dylan Samson. Yes, about you know, drawing conclusions

771
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: in in in mini camp, he said, And I'm paraphrasing,

772
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: we're wearing pajamas right now. That's right, call me when

773
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: we're wearing armor. And the same flies to the quarterbacks,

774
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: guys and gals. Anyone listening, all right? Coming up what

775
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah had to say about the Browns Day one

776
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: week one quarterback starter And coming up as well, we'll

777
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 2: talk to Brown's cornerback coach, corner back coach Brandon Lynch,

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Speaker 2: Did I just say boat Bridges, Boat Bishop? That's for

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Speaker 2: no Bridges, Bo Bishop? I know Bood, Yeah, I know

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Speaker 2: his last name, maybe not after today, I just called

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Speaker 2: don't know when, but they're back one of these days.

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Speaker 2: You get me a gibbee today, let's go back to

795
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Speaker 2: last week. Friend of the program. Daniel Jeremiah, with whom

796
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Speaker 2: I was speaking this morning, was on another Friend of

797
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Speaker 2: the program show that was Rich Eisen on the appropriately

798
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Speaker 2: named Ridge Eisen Show, and Rich throughout the Hey DJ,

799
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Speaker 2: who starts week one for the Browns? His answer was interesting.

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Speaker 4: Training camp to start DJ?

801
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I feel like Flacco probably has his

802
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 6: spot reserved and then it's gonna be three for two.

803
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 6: So you got those three young guys competing for the

804
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 6: two spots, and I would say, you know, based off

805
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 6: of Gabriel where he was picked based off of the ability,

806
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 6: you know, and I go back to you know, it

807
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 6: seems like a million years ago in Green Bay, but

808
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 6: I mean, uh, Shoodoor was my twentieth player is a

809
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 6: first round caliber player. Like talent wise, both those guys

810
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 6: I think have a have a huge advantage over Kenny Pickett.

811
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Speaker 6: Kenny Pickett has to be light years better than each

812
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Speaker 6: of them to make the team. So I would say,

813
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 6: if you're gonna ask me to kind of, you know,

814
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 6: predict how it's gonna go down, I would say, you're

815
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 6: gonna have those two rookies and Joe Flacco. Kenny Pickett's

816
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 6: gonna have to be superman to make the roster. And

817
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 6: then you know, when you look at it from that standpoint,

818
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 6: to me, I think Joe Flacco is just in case

819
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 6: they don't feel like they can be competent at the position.

820
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 6: Then you insert Joe, I think their Week one starter

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00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 6: is going to be. I think it's gonna be one

822
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Speaker 6: of those two rookies. I really feel that way.

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Speaker 7: Really, So you think Flacco will just wind up being

824
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 7: a veteran presence in the quarterback room for your starter

825
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 7: Dylan Brooks or should or Sanders DJ.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: You give those two young guys, I think you have

828
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Speaker 6: to learn this year. You know, they've got they made

829
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Speaker 6: that trade, so they've got some ammunition for next year.

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Speaker 6: And I'm just starting to peek at some of these quarterbacks.

831
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Speaker 6: All have a better feel for what that could look

832
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 6: like here over the next month. But they have to

833
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 6: they have at next year at this time. They have

834
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Speaker 6: to know what they have in those two rookies. They

835
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 6: have to see them. They have to see them. They

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00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 6: gotta get one of it. And that's why to me,

837
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Speaker 6: I don't think you waste time. It's not okay, let's

838
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 6: let Joe Flacco, let these guys get comfortable and then

839
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 6: we can kind of maybe see who wins it between

840
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 6: those two guys and we insert them and week eight,

841
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 6: Week ten, like, ah, you have to evaluate these two

842
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 6: kids that you just drafted, so that next year, at

843
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 6: this time or you know, sorry, before the draft, before

844
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 6: this next draft, you have some clarity of what you

845
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 6: have on campus.

846
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Speaker 7: Any any concerns of Shador going forty one miles per

847
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 7: hour above the sixty mile an hour speed limit recently.

848
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 6: You know, obviously it's not great. I just feel like

849
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 6: we've seen more of this. I don't know if it's

850
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 6: obviously he's in a different situation. But all these college

851
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 6: kids now have rich if you look at it, and

852
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 6: I know people have talked about in their program and

853
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 6: all the speeding issues they've had there these kids now,

854
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 6: a lot of them. I mean I and someone who

855
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 6: has for kids, you have kids, Like a lot of

856
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 6: these kids drive later.

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Speaker 2: Now.

858
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Speaker 6: It's not like when we were growing up. You turn sixteen,

859
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 6: you get your license, Like these people drive later, and

860
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 6: then all of a sudden, now these kids with nil

861
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 6: are getting these these souped up cars that are so fast,

862
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 6: and it's like it's it's.

863
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 2: Not a great combination.

864
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 6: Now he's in a different situation, you know, with with

865
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 6: with Dion and having a chance to have a nicer

866
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 6: car and do all those things. And I just I

867
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 6: don't think that we have mature drivers, and I think

868
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 6: it goes beyond just shud Or. It's not a great look,

869
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 6: but it feels like we're seeing a lot more of

870
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 6: that now with athletes than we've ever seen.

871
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: All Right, a couple of things I agree disagree with.

872
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: I do agree with DJ that the car thing is

873
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: what the car thing is speeding.

874
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: Get that.

875
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: I also agree with DJ that give you need to

876
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: know what you have in the rookie quarterbacks by the

877
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: end of the season, one way or the other. That

878
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 2: you can't draft to rookie quarters and put both of

879
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: them on the shelf for the entire year. Now, look

880
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: in a there is a world in which, let's say

881
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco starts Week one and and he beats the

882
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: Browns I'm sorry, beats the Bengals.

883
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: And I by like right now, I'm in I sign

884
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: that right now.

885
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: If you told me Joe Flacco starting week one, I

886
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: will tell you we're gonna beat the Bengals. I firmly

887
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: believe that in my heart of hearts. Right now, you

888
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: throw them out there, gonna beat the Bengals. Does that

889
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 2: mean one of the other three can't do the same. Yeah,

890
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: I think that could happen as well. But like, give

891
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: me Joe Flacco. Yeah, now, how long is that gonna last? Right?

892
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: And look at Indianapolis last year, there were some great

893
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco moments, and there were moments. Eh, okay, right, yeah?

894
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: Is that sustainable for an entire seventeen week season. I

895
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: would love to see a world. I mean that would

896
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: be a fairy tale in which it happens in that world. However,

897
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: you don't get to see the rookies now where I

898
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: kind of agree with DJ and I told him that

899
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: this morning is this idea that like, can't you pick it?

900
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: And kind of paraphrasing, has a hard time making the roster.

901
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: I don't see that. I don't, but it is fair

902
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: to ask, can you legitimately keep four now? Right now?

903
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: If you read the joey Epstein piece in Yahoo two

904
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: weeks ago and Andrew Berry said, yeah, we can keep four,

905
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: absolutely keep four. Yeah, that world does exist. Some of

906
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: that is also, hey, we're not going to announce right

907
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: now we can't keep four. That does us no good, right,

908
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: somebody has to win, win, win this job. If no

909
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: one does, then Joe Flacco is your quarterback. That's just

910
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 2: the way it is. But to say that, well someone's

911
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: going to get traded, well that means one of the

912
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: other three has to play enough. And I don't know

913
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: that one of the rookies is going to get traded.

914
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense to me.

915
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: Do you use draft capital to move up in the

916
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: fifth round? Yes, to take Shador like you're not getting

917
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 3: rid of the guys that you drafted this year.

918
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: No, But everyone says, well, trade Kenny Pickett, Okay for who?

919
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 2: For what? There has to be an injury somewhere and

920
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: he has to play well enough in the preseason for

921
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 2: somebody to want him. But that goes with any player. Okay,

922
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: it goes with any player. Yeah, but this idea that

923
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett has, I disagree with dj On that is

924
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: gonna have a hard time making the team. I don't

925
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: know that I agree with that. By the way, it

926
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Speaker 2: is a special mailbag Monday edition to Browns Daily. Here

927
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 2: time to ask me anything high? I'm Andrew. You could

928
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: send your questions in at Brown's Daily, at Brown's Underscore

929
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: Daily on the X on the Twitter, or you could

930
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: do it on the YouTube stream as well, which I

931
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: do not have up and I am not looking at

932
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: because I mean, God knows some of the comments sometimes

933
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: on any YouTube stream, but you throw those in there,

934
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: and Brock and Gibbe are looking at them right now. Also,

935
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: coming up later with Deantay Johnson had to say about

936
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: who he thinks will be the starting quarterback for the Browns.

937
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: That may raise some brows, and we're gonna talk to

938
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: Brandon Lynch as mentioned Brown's cornerback coach. It is Cleveland

939
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944
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Speaker 2: All right, let's do it, everybody. It's Andrew Ciciliano, Jason

945
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: Gibbs in today on CBD in for Nathan and Bo

946
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: who are back at I don't know, I just work

947
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: here points unknown.

948
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 3: They'll be back at some time. They'll be back. I

949
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 3: think I think there is a good chance there will

950
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: be a Ziggura sighting tomorrow with you on the program.

951
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean, oh yes, this is what I meant.

952
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: I believe I meant. I meant, oh yes, oh no, like,

953
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: oh no, I didn't know that.

954
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're working through it. He was like, I'm in,

955
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 3: I'm in. And then we've got some stuff going on

956
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: inside the building that he may have to go address

957
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 3: and deal with first no, no, no, no, this is a

958
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: good thing, quick scores, maybe maybe some new podcast things

959
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 3: that are going to be coming out. And the timing

960
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: was originally before the show and then it's now during

961
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 3: the first hour of the show.

962
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to take him away from any Luca duties.

963
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, like or he wants to step away. Yeah,

964
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: two weeks of paternity officially over. Luca duties for him

965
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: are overnights, and I want to say in the evenings.

966
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: I think that's when he is doing his his part.

967
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 3: At least that's what it was for the first week.

968
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if they have changed since then. Well,

969
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: he was the one getting up at night with that said,

970
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 3: flattered to be here, happy to be here.

971
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm happy to Bo's place. I am happy to be here,

972
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 2: happy that you were here as well. On a weekend,

973
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 2: or after a weekend in which we saw the Oklahoma

974
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: City Thunder win Game seven of the NBA Finals last

975
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 2: night and take a championship seven different champions in seven

976
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: different years now. In the NBA, the headline was Tyreese

977
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: Haliburton going down first half torn achilles, which is now

978
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 2: confirmed by Shams and the team. I believe at least

979
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: by Shams. We saw it, I mean, and they showed

980
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: the replay fifty five times too many last night. It

981
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: was a torn achilles. It is heartbreaking. It is gutting,

982
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 2: even if you're rooting against Indiana, even if you didn't

983
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: like Hyrise Halliburton doing the choke sign multiple times during

984
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: the postseason after his multiple awe dropping or awe inspiring

985
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: jaw dropping game winning shots, even if he didn't like

986
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: his old man, I think he's good for the game.

987
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: He's good for the sport. He seems to be a

988
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: good dude. I don't know him, and to see, yeah,

989
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: he's a great player. You know, his interview uh with

990
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: the with Charles Barkley and the Inside the NBA crew

991
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: on TNT two weeks ago was fantastic. I really love

992
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: the guy, and I think he's good for the sport.

993
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: And to know that he liked Damian Lillard or like

994
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, regardless what you think of those guys suffer

995
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: these injuries late in the year, in the postseason, and

996
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: they're they're gone for a lot of next year. You

997
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: lose more than a game seven to be a pacerf

998
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: fan two day. Listen, we as Browns fans, as Cleveland fans, guards,

999
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: Calvs whatever, buck guys, we have had these You're so

1000
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 2: close punch in the gut moments, way too many to count.

1001
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a reason I have gray hair. Way

1002
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: too many to count. But to get to the Game

1003
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: seven and not only lose, but to realize that the

1004
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: face of your franchise is now out a lot of

1005
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: next year. All right, you lost the champion ship bad,

1006
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: really bad, like you're gonna have nightmares about it for years,

1007
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: but face of the franchise is also out all of

1008
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: next year. Like I cannot begin to imagine what it

1009
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: feels like to be a Pacer fan today. Cavs lost.

1010
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: I get it, Cavs had a great season. We all

1011
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: thought this was their year, not diminishing diminishing rather or

1012
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: trying to downplay that hurt. But imagine getting to Game

1013
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: seven and then the face of your franchise gets hurt. Oh,

1014
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: by the way, and also you're leading at halftime.

1015
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 3: Well, and the Achilles is the new ACL. Like when

1016
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 3: we were growing up, if you had an ACL injury

1017
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: or needed Tommy John surgery, like you were you might

1018
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 3: not be the same player ever again. Like I feel

1019
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 3: like the achilles is that way I would modern medicine.

1020
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 3: I don't think it's as grim a diagnosis, but there

1021
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 3: is a significant recovery in achilles, and not everybody comes

1022
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 3: back fully from him.

1023
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: No, you can come back, but are you the same

1024
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think so. And look they can.

1025
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: You can come back now faster than ever. Aaron Rodgers

1026
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: could have played in December of twenty twenty three. Now

1027
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: would he have been immobile?

1028
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1029
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: Would they have needed to basically remember when Dave Grohl,

1030
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: you know, lead singer Foo Fighters, when he broke his

1031
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: leg and they just put him on stage in a

1032
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: giant throne. Remember that?

1033
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1034
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: Right, they might have had to have done that with

1035
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in December, right, just put him in shotgun,

1036
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: put him in a thrown back there and he's got

1037
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: to get the ball out in two point two seconds

1038
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: every time. But he could have potentially potentially come back

1039
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: to play cam Akers in the Rams Super Bowl season.

1040
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: Tore his achilles. He's not an agent quarterback. He's a

1041
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: young running back. Wasn't even twenty five yet. Tore his

1042
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: achilles ten to twelve days before the started training camp,

1043
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: doing a box jump, working out on his own. It

1044
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: was already into July. It wasn't like June. It wasn't now.

1045
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: It was into July, training camp within sight. Tore his achilles.

1046
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: He came back and played in the playoffs and won

1047
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: a ring. Do that math. It can be done. But

1048
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: he wasn't the same, sure, but he got it out

1049
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 2: and he helped them win a title, So it can

1050
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: be done. Tyre's Halliburton is young. His age begins with

1051
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: a two. He can come back, He will come back.

1052
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: Same for Jason Tatum. He can and will come back.

1053
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: But are you the same? And how long does it

1054
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: take you, if you are the same, to get there? Yeah, exactly,

1055
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: That's what Indiana is staring at the face right now.

1056
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: Also over the weekend, Guards won two at of three

1057
00:58:53,640 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: in Oakland. Emmanuel Classe it was dicey yesterday, got out

1058
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: of it, much like he got out of the jam

1059
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: last week in San Francisco to take two out of three.

1060
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: In that one, there are a lot of what ifs

1061
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: on this Guardian's road trip. You know, what if they

1062
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: had held that lead and gotten the sweep in San Francisco,

1063
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 2: three in San Francisco, two ou in Sacramento, five out

1064
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: of six after the just gut punch horribly disheartening sweep

1065
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: in Seattle. In no way does one blown lead in

1066
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: San Francisco on a Thursday afternoon and that matinee in

1067
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: any way change the way I look at their long

1068
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: term outlook this year. But it would feel a lot

1069
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: different coming back and getting the day off before the

1070
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: Blue Jays come to town. Look, they've got to prove

1071
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: they could be good teams. They have to prove that

1072
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: they could hit, and right now they're not. They're just

1073
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: not they're not hit.

1074
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 3: Speaking speaking of the hitting and not hitting our sister

1075
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 3: flagship station. Yeah here in town ninety two to three,

1076
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 3: I heard this, Jim Bowden, Yeah, go ahead, lay it

1077
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 3: out there. Mention the possibility of the Guardos trading for

1078
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: and getting back Josh Naylor at the deadline.

1079
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, I don't know?

1080
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 3: Are you are you? Are you a contender?

1081
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 2: Look, right, if the season were to end right now,

1082
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: I got to see how the rest of the game's

1083
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: played out.

1084
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: Yesterday, I mean wild card, they're totally in play.

1085
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: They're in play. I'm saying, if it truly were to well,

1086
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: if we're to end right now, it would be a headline.

1087
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: If we're to end right now, they are tied with

1088
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 2: the Mariners for the final wild card spot. They're both

1089
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: thirty nine and thirty seven, same number of games. ESPN

1090
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: dot Com is the MS in front of them. That

1091
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to me because I think head to

1092
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: head the MS have the edge, especially after that sweep.

1093
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: Regardless they are right there, they're either in or they

1094
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: lose a time break or its a one game playoff,

1095
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: whatever the heck they do is Josh Naylor. Remember you

1096
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: got rid of Josh Naylor because you want to let

1097
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: Kyle Manzarto play. And he got out of the gate.

1098
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: Great Manzardo, did you know, hitting bombs and taking Paul

1099
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: Skeins into the river in Pittsburgh and doing all of that.

1100
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: But his average isn't there. He's not hitting righties. And yeah,

1101
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: I don't think we're at the point where you send

1102
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: Kyle Menzardo down. I don't think we're at that point.

1103
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 2: But remember last year he came up and couldn't make

1104
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: hard contact all right, he was a left handed Jonathan Rodriguez.

1105
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: They sent him down. He came back late in the

1106
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 2: year and he was raking. He had the home run

1107
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: in the ALCS in what was that game three? Game yeah,

1108
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: game three. He was killing the ball and he picked

1109
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 2: that up in April. I'm not seeing that now. Carlos

1110
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: Santana had a great May June a little bit different.

1111
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: So if you bring back Josh Naylor, I would say

1112
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: a for who for what the Slade Secconi thing's working.

1113
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 2: He pitched well yesterday. Yeah, he still gives up the

1114
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: home run ball didn't yesterday. That looks like another one

1115
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: of those. Hey, you know what, we the pitching factory

1116
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: can take your guy that you haven't managed well and

1117
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: we can turn him into something that looks okay on

1118
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 2: this end of it.

1119
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 3: Is that the guy we watched, yeah when we were

1120
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 3: down there.

1121
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I went to the game during two

1122
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: weeks ago when we were there, when I was there

1123
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: from mandatory Mini caamp. We went to the Tuesday game

1124
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 2: and that was a Slade security did pitch that day.

1125
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 3: He pitched great, and the records.

1126
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: He pitched well. And that was the game that was

1127
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: over in like two hours and four minutes and they

1128
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 2: got two hit and lost. Red's made a couple of

1129
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: great plays in the outfield there, robbing Jose Ramirez and others. Yeah,

1130
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: that game was so disheartening, thanks to Curtis Danberg by

1131
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: the way, but so dishearted because like if David David

1132
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 2: Fry got screwed on that ball four in the top

1133
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: in the bottom of the ninth inning, horrible call, like

1134
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 2: bring bring us the roboms at that point they get

1135
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: that ball four, then you're first and second, nobody out

1136
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: with it was a one was a one nothing game,

1137
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 2: so you got the time running second. Well whatever didn't

1138
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: happen those game two weeks ago? Am I all for

1139
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 2: bringing back Josh Naylor? I don't know. I heard a

1140
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 2: lot of stuff about why they wanted to move on

1141
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,439
Speaker 2: from Josh Naylor after the trade was made, right, whether

1142
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: it be his weight or whether it be other stuff.

1143
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: Not a bad guy, but just like, hey, we've decided

1144
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: we're going to move on. We're not ready. We're not

1145
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 2: going to give him a long term deal. And that

1146
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: isn't like oh we're cheap, that is it? Like we

1147
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: just don't want to give him a long term deal

1148
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: and we've got Manzardo here ahead of him. Great trade

1149
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: from Manzardo Aaron Zavalla just got moved again. So you know,

1150
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 2: do you go get him like again for who? For what?

1151
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 3: I think you trade deadlines not till the end of July.

1152
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: Let this play out. Let's see what of.

1153
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 2: Course you have to let this play out? Remember flashback?

1154
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: Was it twenty three?

1155
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: Was it?

1156
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Flashback? Flash back to twenty three when they got

1157
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 2: Manzardo right where they traded Savalle and they traded Josh

1158
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: Bell right, they made those moves. They were right around

1159
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: here like where we are now, like right on kind

1160
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 2: of that edge of the wildcard, Like why why why

1161
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: do you give up? Why did you give up? It

1162
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: was disheartening. I remember I was sitting there at Q

1163
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: thirty nine in Kansas City having some amazing barbecue, about

1164
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 2: to go to the Royals game that night, Royals Mets,

1165
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: and then I was going to go interview Travis kelcey

1166
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: the next day. Oh actually, you know that was the

1167
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 2: That was the day before America does not care about this,

1168
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna connect dots. That was the day before

1169
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: I asked Travis kelce on camera live on NFL that

1170
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: work about Taylor Swift And that was the very first

1171
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: time he commented publicly on Taylor Swift. Just what a

1172
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: slice of Americana.

1173
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 3: That was a newsbreaker you are?

1174
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 2: That was nice Americana, yours truly, and Michael Robinson pinned

1175
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: down Travis Kelcey on live television about Taylor Swift, although

1176
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: no one picked it up for like weeks and didn't

1177
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: go viral, and then people realized it and then it

1178
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: went viral. Anyway, I digressed that trade was disheartening at

1179
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 2: the time, but that team wasn't going anywhere. They're right

1180
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: around there now, right, So what do you do? We

1181
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: got a month to figure out, a month and a

1182
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 2: half to figure it out. Once again, I've just gone

1183
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: totally off the rails here. And we were supposed to

1184
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: play what Deontay Johnson had to say about who he

1185
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 2: thinks will be the Browns opening day quarterback. Now you

1186
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 2: want to do that next?

1187
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 3: For Brandon Lynch, we could do we can do Deonta

1188
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 3: in next segment, and then we'll can play b Lynch

1189
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 3: before the end of the show. Okay, we're going to

1190
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 3: be Lynch about two thirty five.

1191
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do that, all right, friends, coming up, what

1192
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson has to say after his one week at Minicamp.

1193
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 2: Who's going to start this year for the Browns Friends

1194
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: at quarterback? Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bett and

1195
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 2: official sports betting partner of Your Cleveland Brown.

1196
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Vett, an official sports

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Speaker 1: betting partner of Your Cleveland Browns. On eight fifty ESP

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1199
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Speaker 2: Hey, the car, truck or motor cycle accident caused your injury?

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Speaker 2: To call the injury lawyers at one eight hundred Elk,

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Speaker 2: Ohio for a free case review ELK and ELK, proud

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Speaker 2: partner of Your Cleveland Brown. Jason Gibbs Andrews Siciliano sitting

1203
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: in for Nathan and Boe in no particular order. By

1204
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: the way Gilley has put out on the X on

1205
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: the Twitter, a call to action as we call it

1206
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: in the business for your mail bag questions, Uh, to

1207
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: yours truly or to Gibby or to or to Brock

1208
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 2: or whomever, say again.

1209
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 3: Jordan's here, Jordan's here. The whole crew is here behind

1210
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 3: the scenes, all right.

1211
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,439
Speaker 2: The whole the whole crew. Jordan is here as well,

1212
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: Jordan mcgrigg.

1213
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 4: Everybody on the.

1214
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 2: Ones and twos, uh, and I am simply a guy

1215
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 2: in a mess of a home office. Here give you

1216
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: normally see.

1217
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 3: Oh, you have a little reno going on the shelf.

1218
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 2: The shelf behind me. Uh, the home office from which

1219
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: we do the bark tank and from which we do

1220
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: b pups. Part available everything off those shelves right now,

1221
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: because we're doing a big rennel home.

1222
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 3: What's the timetable on the reno?

1223
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, supposed to start today? Clearly it has

1224
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: not only a couple of days, you know. Here we

1225
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 2: got the old Tim Couch bobblehead, remember that one in

1226
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: the stadium. Yeah, got the the Vin Scully Dodger Stadium

1227
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 2: talking giveaway at the desk where it's time for Dodger baseball.

1228
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: We also have and I got two of these. One

1229
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 2: of my favorite of all time for those who can't

1230
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: imagine right now, this is the Albert Bell flexing of

1231
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 2: the right bicep bobblehead pointing to it, remember this one

1232
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: back in the day, forever memorializing the it was eighth

1233
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: or ninth whatever, the home run off Rick Aguilera to

1234
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: tie the game in Game one of the nineteen ninety

1235
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 2: five Al Divisional Series. Remember that one, yours truly was there.

1236
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: Didn't we get busted then for sending Jason Grimsley through

1237
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 3: the air duck to like go get the bat? Oh no,

1238
01:08:58,760 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 3: that was that year.

1239
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is after that it happened, all right, yeah,

1240
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 2: and so what that was? Kevin Kennedy was warned by

1241
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: theo Epstein or admonished told this is at least Kevin

1242
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 2: Kennedy's side of the story. After working with him some

1243
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 2: years later at Fox, was told he was managing the

1244
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: Red Sox. Hey if Bell if and when Bell hits

1245
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: his first homer of the season of this series, in

1246
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 2: this series, you are hereby ordered to take his beat, yeah,

1247
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 2: confiscated or ask for it. And they're like, really you

1248
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: want me to do that? No, you're going to do that?

1249
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 4: He was.

1250
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: Kevin tells the story he was ordered to do that

1251
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 2: by the front office. So Bell hit the homer, crowd

1252
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: goes wild, and then he comes out and asks for

1253
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: the bat. And then Albert steps up to the top

1254
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: step of the dugout and he points to his right

1255
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: bicep and and says, if you can read lips, it's

1256
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 2: right bleeping here, meaning this is where the cork is.

1257
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 2: It's right here in my right bicep and yeah, and

1258
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 2: then that became a bobblehead years later. And then about

1259
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: an hour later, Tony Panyan a three to zero count,

1260
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 2: got the green light and took Sane Smith out to

1261
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: left field over the nineteen foot wall with a little

1262
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: bit of missed falling on col Nindre at that just

1263
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: bringing everyone together and uh yeah, I got that one.

1264
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the Browns, shall we

1265
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 2: we shall sure. Deontay Johnson was on a podcast. I

1266
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 2: don't know which podcast this was. It somehow ended up

1267
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: in my Twitter feed this morning. Deontay Johnson a former Steeler,

1268
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: former Panther, former Raven, former Texan, former Raven now at Brown.

1269
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 3: He was on the Comeback podcast hosted by Steven Garcia

1270
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,879
Speaker 3: and another guy that at some point in the podcast,

1271
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 3: because I watched the whole thing, at some point, the

1272
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 3: guy goes, I have family in Cleveland. Oh yeah, we're

1273
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 3: at Columbus.

1274
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: Which is Cleveland but different. Yeah, great, thank you, Sure,

1275
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:06,839
Speaker 2: I got it, regardless, Gantae Johnson, remember context here signed

1276
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: what a month ago? Signed right when the calendar turned.

1277
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 3: To May, I think it was, yeah, yeah.

1278
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 2: Turned to May, and then it was really only there

1279
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: for the one week uh mandatory MIDI camp, so then.

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Speaker 8: They don't row with Kenny for right now, just so

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Speaker 8: you just had rookie mute camp, right you went with

1282
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 8: them and did all that stuff. Who who looks saying

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01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 8: Kenny going on like right now with them ones and

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01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 8: then Joe would come in. I think they're probably gonna

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01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 8: row with him, just like to see, like just coming

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01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 8: off the season he was with Philly right right and

1287
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Speaker 8: having the Super Bowl, so I'd rather see I think

1288
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 8: they don't stick with him through pre season and then

1289
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Speaker 8: you know they can live with with Joe coming brands

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Speaker 8: at the table.

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Speaker 2: All right. This is gonna get a lot of headlines.

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01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 2: I don't read much into it for a couple of reasons.

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01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 2: Number one, you'd only been there week, okay. Number two,

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01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: he and Kenny uh obviously were teammates in Pittsburgh and

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01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson give it you and I were there when needed.

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01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 2: Is one media session during rook Mandatory, minicanp said that

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01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett was one of the factors one of the

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Speaker 2: reasons he decided to come to Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: He also conceded the Browns were his only offer. They

1301
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: were the only call Brown's called. He took the job.

1302
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: You need a job, somebody offers you a job, you

1303
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 2: take the job. But he said that Kenny got on

1304
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: the phone as well. They obviously played together in Pittsburgh.

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01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: So there's that connection. There is that history. But it

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01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 2: also goes with what Nathan and Bow and you and

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01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: I have been telling people for a while now. The

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01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: Browns like Kenny Pickett. There's a reason they gave up

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01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: a five. I would have liked to have given up

1310
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 2: one of the fifteen sixes that they have at that point.

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01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: Those were traded obviously on Draft Day Days one and three.

1312
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 2: But they gave up a five and dtr for a

1313
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: guy that his twenty five career starts. There's value to

1314
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: be had with Kenny Pickett. We can argue whether or

1315
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 2: not he's going to be in a starter or even

1316
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: a good starter again, but there is value to be

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01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 2: had here. I know you've heard the Sam Darnold, the

1318
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, you've heard those comparisons. I get I don't

1319
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 2: know that that's gonna happen, but you have the ability

1320
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 2: to get a guy whose twenty five career starts. The

1321
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 2: seven fourth quarter comebacks all of that and go, hey,

1322
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 2: we'll take this gamble. It's the same logic that says, hey,

1323
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 2: at pick one forty four, we'll give up, Well, we'll

1324
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: take Shad or Sanders, even if we probably weren't get

1325
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 2: a draft earlier because we passed. It's the same logic here.

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01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to read much into this Deontay

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01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: Johnson comment, but I will say this, I will guarantee

1328
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 2: or your money back. I will guarantee that tomorrow, one

1329
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 2: day removed from talking about Game seven of the NBA

1330
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 2: Finals and knowing that there's only so much you could

1331
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 2: say about Wednesday's draft, Cooper flag is going to go

1332
01:13:54,040 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: number one, that this will stick in the national awk

1333
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: sphere and more will be made of those Deontay Johnson

1334
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 2: comments than really are deserved.

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Speaker 3: Agree again, there are of the thirty two NFL teams,

1336
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 3: we're one of the top five. From a hot button standpoint.

1337
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 3: We will be throughout the entire training camp in preseason.

1338
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 3: We will be until we name a quarterback. That's just

1339
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 3: how it's gonna go. I mean, it's already set up

1340
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 3: for that. I mean Eisen said it last week to

1341
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah. He's like there's five storylines worth watching. The

1342
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 3: Browns and four quarterbacks are one of those five? Right?

1343
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:44,799
Speaker 2: What are the other four? What the new coaches? The Bears,

1344
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, the Jets? Oh, Aaron Rodgers going on? Certainly?

1345
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 2: Is Jalen Ramsey gonna get traded? You know what happens

1346
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: with the Dolphins? Those are obvious storylines. The Ravens signed

1347
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: another dB. By the way, their secondary is going to

1348
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 2: be ridict This is their secondary also always all get hurt.

1349
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 3: But did they have the best roster in the NFL?

1350
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, look, this is the evergreen time of the

1351
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: football calendar. I did one of my silly walking talks

1352
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: just because I was bored a couple of days ago. Right,

1353
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,839
Speaker 2: but I didn't. I ranked the top five wide receiver

1354
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 2: duos in the NFL. I mean, that is silly season stuff,

1355
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: but that is clickbait stuff. Ranked the top five wide

1356
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: receiver dues. I put the Eagles as number one, just

1357
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 2: to tick people off. He should see the comments. It worked.

1358
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 2: It totally worked. Had the Bengals too, had the Cowboys? Three?

1359
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: Had the Vikings? Four? Had the Rams?

1360
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 3: Five?

1361
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? People lost their mind, especially Lions fans. How dare

1362
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 2: you put Puka and Davante Adams ahead of I'm in

1363
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 2: Ross Saint Brown and Jamison Williams. I'm sorry, I just

1364
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 2: don't see Jamison Williams as consistent enough. And I think

1365
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 2: Devanta Adams is going to be great. What about the

1366
01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: What about the Seahawks? I don't know. Yeah, sure they'll

1367
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 2: be good JSN and I think Cooper Cups Huh.

1368
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 3: Sam Donald's throwing.

1369
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,959
Speaker 2: Sam Darnald will throw them the football.

1370
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 3: We sure Sam Donald's be able to throw them in

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01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 3: the football. I know he had a great year last year.

1372
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 3: Is it a fluke? I don't know, but I would

1373
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 3: tend to go that way.

1374
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 2: You know. My my headline here from the Weekend on

1375
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 2: Sam Donald is front of the program, Mike Silver's Peace

1376
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: in the Athletic UH, basically long profile on Darnald saying

1377
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 2: he knows that everything fell apart the last two weeks

1378
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 2: for the vikings last year. He's hard on himself, he

1379
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: blames himself, He's grateful for the opportunity. He talks about

1380
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: the journey. You know what he learned in that in

1381
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,759
Speaker 2: that gap year in San Francisco and the Kyle Shanahan

1382
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: School of Quarterback Rehab and all that. But he also

1383
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 2: Mike does throws in a little nugget that basically suggests

1384
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 2: that Tom Brady didn't want him in Vegas. You know,

1385
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,040
Speaker 2: Tom Brady has been very hands off. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1386
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with the quarterbacks, right, Hey,

1387
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: why didn't the Raiders take Shador? Oh I don't know.

1388
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 2: I have nothing to do with that. I can't believe

1389
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: people are making this stuff up. Tom is intimated. Oh,

1390
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 2: it's the media saying whatever they want without repercussions. Well,

1391
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 2: you've had John Spytech on the record, You've had Pete

1392
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:19,799
Speaker 2: Carroll on the record into open microphones saying Tom Brady's

1393
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 2: got to have a big say in our quarterback in

1394
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 2: our off season quarterback conversations and analysis, and the time's like,

1395
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 2: who the heck said that? Oh yeah, those guys did

1396
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 2: the GM that you helped bring there and the head coach.

1397
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 2: So Mike Silver's bit Tom Brady didn't really want Sam

1398
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 2: Darnald in Vegas. Look, Sam Darnald has kind of a

1399
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 2: one year thing going in Seattle.

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01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 3: Also, you know, one year thing going. This past year

1401
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 3: worked out pretty well for him.

1402
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Raiders gave Gino a big contract. It's kind

1403
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:02,440
Speaker 2: of a two year thing. There neither of those situations,

1404
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 2: and a friendly reminder middle of March. A lot of

1405
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,839
Speaker 2: these court a lot of these contracts are funny money. Okay,

1406
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 2: there is always a ripcord. Now very often that ripcord,

1407
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 2: if you pull it early, comes with a heavy part,

1408
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 2: but not a price that can't be overcome. Other than

1409
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: the Brown I don't know that there is another quarterback

1410
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 2: battle in the NFL. People point to the Saints. If

1411
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck doesn't win that job, it would be stunning

1412
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 2: if you had faith in Spencer Rattler or Jake Hayner

1413
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 2: winning the job. You don't take Tyler Shuck in the

1414
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: second round, and at his age, what twenty six? You

1415
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 2: don't draft him in the second round, and then say

1416
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler is gonna start. You just don't. So I

1417
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 2: don't buy that the Saints are a legitimate quarterback competition.

1418
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 2: So if you take that at face value, the Browns

1419
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 2: are the only quarterback race in the NFL, and they're

1420
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 2: one with a guy that failed to pick one forty

1421
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 2: four when nobody thought he was gonna go out pick

1422
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 2: one forty four with the magic of Joe Flacco, the

1423
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 2: enigma that is Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel. Who only

1424
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 2: and he has detractors, I know only is the guy

1425
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 2: that the top line on his resume says, no one

1426
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: has thrown more touchdown passes in the history of Division

1427
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 2: I college football. Nobody. Okay, he played six years. Okay, fine,

1428
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: he threw a lot of touchdowns in those six years.

1429
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: A lot of them coming up mail bag, right around

1430
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: the corner. But next, Brown's cornerback coach Brandon Lynch, what

1431
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: does he need from mj Emerson and Greg Newsom in

1432
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 2: contract years in September? That's next. Jason Gibbs Andrew Ciciliana.

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1441
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 2: This is not necessarily from the podium. But it is

1442
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: a friendly back and forth that I had as Mini camp.

1443
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 2: Mandatory Medicamp was wrapping up with Brown's corner back coach

1444
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 2: Brandon Lynch. Shit it, Brandon Lynch. Jason Tarmer said, it's

1445
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: the last day of school as we get ready, we're

1446
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 2: taping this before the final day of mandatory Mini Camp.

1447
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 2: But it can't be the last day of school because

1448
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 2: you have to maintain that energy. You just came to

1449
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 2: the podium. You are mister energy. Explain to me how

1450
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 2: you take that energy out here for that final day.

1451
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 4: Oh?

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01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 9: Absolutely, you know it may be the it may be

1453
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 9: the final day of regular school, but it's about to

1454
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 9: be a day before summer school, you know. And we

1455
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 9: know right now like summer school, as a teacher can

1456
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 9: be one of the most important things for our students.

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01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 9: So making sure that all the t's across, you know,

1458
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 9: all the odds are dotted, you know, making sure that

1459
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 9: our guys are moving in the right direction is the

1460
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 9: most important.

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01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: How about you personally, I've never seen you have a

1462
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 2: bad day. How do you maintain that?

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01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 9: You know, keep being the main thing, the main thing,

1464
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 9: you know, and the main thing is about you know, family, right,

1465
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 9: Like this is something that the Lord blessed us to do.

1466
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 4: Like we absolutely love to.

1467
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 2: Get your son here today.

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01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 9: Oh my goodness, and that's amazing, right, you know, he

1469
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 9: gets a chance like he wants to do this one day,

1470
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 9: so for him to be around like great players and

1471
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 9: you you know, as a parent, if you can put

1472
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 9: a young guy in a room and you don't have

1473
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 9: to say look at this person, look at this person.

1474
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 4: But do what they do, that's extremely rewarding.

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01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 2: It's you've been in this business long enough, and you've

1476
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 2: been part of professional sports long enough. The coolest part

1477
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 2: of this job, if we could do a brief side here,

1478
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 2: is bringing your family in and letting them experience what

1479
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 2: you do day to day standing here on this field,

1480
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: standing at the field San Huntington Bankfield wherever, to like

1481
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: see the look on his face or your family's face.

1482
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 2: Isn't that what it's all about at this point?

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01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:26,480
Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely?

1484
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 9: And you know we talk about family also our players

1485
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 9: and teachers that we're serving, right, So like just so

1486
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 9: that everything comes together because we talk about being one

1487
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 9: hundred percent about the team putting it first, right, that's

1488
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 9: part of that.

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01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the PBUs to I iNTS

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Speaker 2: and so we're talked about that only four picks last year.

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Speaker 2: Jok had one of them. Yes, Secondary had three of them.

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Speaker 2: How do you turn PBUs passes broken up for those

1493
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 2: who don't know, into I iNTS? How do you get

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01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: the turnover machine going again?

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01:22:54,600 --> 01:23:00,759
Speaker 9: Absolutely just consistent eye control, consistent foot on the gas,

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01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 9: and urgency to finish. I think that when we talk

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01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 9: about like details, we talk about being urgent to apply

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01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 9: our details, and then you know, having that hard and

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01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 9: toughness fighting through friction, making sure that is time on task.

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Speaker 9: So with our guys being here, you know, certainly like

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01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 9: are our leaders MJ. You know you've had Denzel here

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01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 9: every single day. You've had Cam Mitchell here, Miles Harding

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01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 9: here every single day catching you know, more footballs on

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01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 9: the jug, catching them from the quarterbacks.

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01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 4: Those reps on tasks will show in the grass.

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01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Denzel said if he had just caught a

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01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 2: couple of those who would have gone from Pro Bowl

1508
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 2: to All Pro, I would argue he should have been

1509
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: an All Pro regardless. But it's not just the personal accolades.

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01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 2: Those I INT's. You know, you're not playing the seventy

1511
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 2: snaps per game. Defensively, you give the ball back to

1512
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 2: the offense, they can run the football. Collectively, this unit

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01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 2: has to force more turnovers. Has that been an emphasis

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01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 2: for the entire defense here in this in the offseason.

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01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 9: Absolutely, you know, And it all goes back to the team.

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01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 9: You know, we want to force errors. And with us

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01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 9: forcing errors, us getting tight, stand tight. It allows one

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01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 9: our engine to get home, and if our engine are home,

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01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 9: they're gonna force errors. But also that allows us to

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01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 9: be very resilient to the other people on the field,

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01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 9: which is our nerve center, our linebackers, and our safeties.

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01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 9: We always talk about tipping overthrows, you know, we always

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01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 9: talk about we're gonna get those.

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01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 4: We have to.

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01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 9: So with us putting the team first and the urgency

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01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 9: to execute, we'll see that on the grass.

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Speaker 2: You're a coach, you're not a contract guy. But you

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01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 2: also do know that you have two corners and Greg

1529
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 2: Newsom and Martin Emerson MJ who are heading into their

1530
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 2: final year of their deals. How do you turn that

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01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,759
Speaker 2: motivation into better play?

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01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 9: Oh, excellent, excellent question, you know, and really it starts

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01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 9: with being in the moment.

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01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 4: Being in the moment.

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01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 9: We talk about like having an hourglass, right, Like when

1536
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 9: you first start, you know, the sand is at the top,

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01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 9: everything is good.

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01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 4: But as you keep going, time is of the essence.

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01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 9: And one of the the biggest lies that we tell

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01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 9: ourselves is we have enough time. So having the right

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01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 9: guys in the room that urgently want to be accountable

1542
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,879
Speaker 9: for the team, it really takes care of itself.

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01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 2: With that in mind. However, you mentioned cam Mitchell Miles Harden. Yes,

1544
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: how important is this year for the two of them

1545
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: to raise their game?

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01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 2: You know, just have you seen that so far?

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01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 9: Yes, I've seen these young guys accountable like I've seen

1549
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 9: them accountable like from the whole off season. You know,

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01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 9: these are guys that are studious. These are guys that

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01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 9: do extra reps, have to practice. They're also you know,

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01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 9: really performing in the weight room, which we know right

1553
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 9: now when we talk about that hard and toughness, when

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01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 9: we talk about like just endurance and precision, these are

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01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 9: young guys that we're going to have to count on

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01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 9: and they're showing that they're trustworthy.

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01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 3: All right.

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01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 2: Big thing last year is tackling in space. Yes, right,

1559
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: we know how offenses are going to attack this defense

1560
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 2: are going to make your run sideline, the sideline, can

1561
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: you actually drill that? I know it's mandatory mini camp here,

1562
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 2: pads aren't on. This is football and shorts, right, that's

1563
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: more of a training camp thing. But can you work

1564
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: on that in the off season at all?

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01:25:58,960 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 4: One thousand?

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01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 2: How do you do that?

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01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 4: Mind body spirit? You know?

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01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 9: And it first starts with the mind right obviously, like

1569
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 9: from a fundamental aspect, getting guys closer, making sure that

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01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 9: we're stepping on the near foot, making sure that we're

1571
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 9: executing with leverage.

1572
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 4: But it all starts with the mindset, you know, not.

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01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 9: Just getting to a spot, but getting to a spot

1574
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 9: and making the play, but getting to a spot and

1575
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 9: making the play with a violent intention and playing with edge.

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01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 9: That's something that's been a focal point of ours. I'm

1577
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 9: looking forward to seeing that when it's time.

1578
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 2: What do you think of the new The kids would say,

1579
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 2: sale is I'm too old. I'll say celebrations. I saw,

1580
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: I saw Greg and MJ bust went out. I think yesterday.

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01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 2: Do they run those by you?

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01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 4: You know what?

1583
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 3: I kind of do you give them notes?

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01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 9: I kind of catch them on it now, the note

1585
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 9: that we are all giving them.

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01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 4: Hey, we're about to bring the handshake back.

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01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 9: We're about to bring a high five, We're about to

1588
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 9: bring the fist bumps, We're about to bring those types

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01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 9: of life, old.

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01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 4: School, old school.

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01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 2: And is that from you?

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01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 4: Oh, you know that that's from us? Okay?

1593
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 2: Is there a film breakdown in your meeting room on.

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01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 9: This, No, sir, but there will be after summer school, okay,

1595
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 9: so like after today, after today, okay, so that's like.

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01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: Your your go away for the summer.

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01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 4: Gift to them, absolutely, let's put it on take.

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01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 2: Do we grade them?

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01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,879
Speaker 9: Every single thing that we do is competitive, Like literally

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01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,839
Speaker 9: every single thing that we do is extremely competitive.

1601
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 2: Do you have the moves? Can you get in there?

1602
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 4: You know what?

1603
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 2: I've seen you on the sideline with some but like

1604
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: if you had to go out there and do it,

1605
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 2: can you keep up with the guys in your room?

1606
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 4: You know what?

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01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 9: I'll tell you what with the handshakes? Absolutely, but the

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01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 9: sally probably not.

1609
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 2: Okay, if as your son that you can keep up

1610
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: with the dancing, because you heard Joe Flacco yesterday right

1611
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 2: absolutely about TikTok dances. You're not gonna be that guy.

1612
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 9: No, no, no, now I'm not a dancer now neither mind.

1613
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 2: But you heard Joe. He said, I don't know, like,

1614
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 2: why are people dancing on TikTok Like you're an adult

1615
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: being an adult?

1616
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 4: Be an adult.

1617
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 2: Okay, this is an adult, Brandon Lynch. Enjoy your month

1618
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 2: off if you even get that, Yes, sir, you're an

1619
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 2: adult being an adult. Brandon Lynch, as mandatory midacamp, was

1620
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: wrapping up a couple of things. Obviously, MJ needs to

1621
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 2: have a better season than he did last year. He

1622
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 2: kind of never looked right. He's got to play big,

1623
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 2: he's got to play physical. He's got to be able

1624
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 2: to turn and run. He's got to be the guy

1625
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 2: that we saw against Mike Evans a couple of years ago. Right,

1626
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 2: he's got to be the guy that we saw lock

1627
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 2: up Jamar Chase a couple of years ago. Him or

1628
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: Denzel doesn't matter. Denzel had a great year last year.

1629
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 2: I do think Denzel should have been an All Pro

1630
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 2: last year. Huge year for Greg Newsom as well. Huge

1631
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 2: year for Greg Newsom. I know some people thought he

1632
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: might be traded in the off season. I think that

1633
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 2: ship has sailed. Greg Newsom is going to be a

1634
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:43,759
Speaker 2: Brown barring something dramatic in training camp. I don't think

1635
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: you're going to see him moved at all. And those

1636
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 2: guys need to get back to the form that we

1637
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: saw in twenty twenty three. But give me that goes

1638
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 2: for the entire defense. When people and you know, not

1639
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 2: going to take a shot at Florio, but when you know,

1640
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 2: people do their rankings in the off season, it's clicked

1641
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 2: bait in the offseason. I get it, right, he did one.

1642
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 2: I believe this morning top thirty two. After me, he

1643
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Brown's at thirty two, right, the thirty one or thirty two? Yeah,

1644
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 2: thirty two, oh, thirty two. Yeah, I don't buy that.

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01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 2: I don't because and the big reason I don't buy

1646
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 2: that is because I believe the Browns defense can maybe

1647
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 2: not get back to number one overall. I think that's

1648
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 2: a tall task, but they could get close enough to

1649
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 2: the form that we saw in twenty twenty three where

1650
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 2: there is no reasonable analysis that can have them as

1651
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 2: the number thirty two team of the NFL. But a

1652
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 2: lot is on those corners, and a lot is on

1653
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 2: that pass rush. Whether it is Isaiah Maguire, who we

1654
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 2: spoke to in the last episode of BPA Best Podcast Available,

1655
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 2: or whether it's Alex's right and we see the same

1656
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 2: guy that we saw in September when I know he

1657
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 2: was fighting through that injury before they shut it down.

1658
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 2: Or whether it's Joe Tryon Schryanka or Obo, whether it's

1659
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 2: Obo Listen, Obo's got a cap number fingers crossed. We

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01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 2: get Obo sacking the quarterback, but somebody's got to get

1661
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: to the quarterback because it is not going to be

1662
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 2: j Okay shooting the gap and sliding through the matrix

1663
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 2: and bringing down the QB. But that defense can take

1664
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 2: a massive step back towards the form we saw in

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01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 2: twenty three. Coming up next, we might have time for

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01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 2: the mail bag, if not some final thoughts. That is

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01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:29,240
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Speaker 3: I don't think we have time for a mailbag.

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01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,839
Speaker 2: Oh here's one. Why can't you actually keep good time

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01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 2: and do a show the right way? Those to me

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01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 2: give me.

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01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 3: You did great, you did. It's the off season. We

1678
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 3: can have a little fun. There's a little breathing time

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01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 3: we don't have. We're not clockwatching except at the end

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01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:04,679
Speaker 3: of the show to make sure we're out on time.

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01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 3: I can, I can work through everything. How many times

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01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 3: could you squat four hundred and five pounds.

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01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 2: A negative ghostwriter? I can't do that at all.

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01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 3: Oh okay, John Harball did it eight times. He's on

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01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 3: the video right now watching it.

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01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 2: Four saw Jim harbout'side A restaurant in La two weeks ago.

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01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 2: No one recognized nor stopped him. For Jason gibbson Marss Siciliato.

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01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 2: Maybe Nathan Tomorrow, Maybe see

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