WEBVTT - She's Kind Of A B! 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:06.240 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:10.800 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arms. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:17.320 Strong and gay and he Armstrong and Yetty. 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.320 Critics just said that you either relaxed or failed to 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.840 enforce sanctions on Iran, allowing all of this money to 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:31.880 flow into Iran. 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.839 Like Billy, let's go back to Donald Trump. Hold on 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:36.960 who pulled out of who pulled out of a deal 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.320 that would have actually put but here Ron in check 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:46.320 the estimates and bill during Donald Trump's administration, that Ron regime, 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:50.560 that we had an American military base that was attacked 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:55.080 where American soldiers suffered traumatic brain injuries. 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.080 Kamala Harris with Brett Barry yesterday and we played some 0:00:58.120 --> 0:00:59.440 of that already in the show, and we'll have more 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.320 of but coming up later and a little punditry around 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.920 that just wanted to establish Kamala Harris's voice and presidence 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.240 before we got to Katie Grimes, who's been following Kamala 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.920 Harris's career for quite some time. Katie Grahams, if you 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.080 don't know this around the country, is the editor in 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:17.399 chief of the California Globe. Longtime investigative journalist covering the 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.679 California state capitol. Co author of the book California's War 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.440 Against Donald Trump, Katie Grimes joins The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:25.679 Katie, How are you doing today? 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:26.760 Hi? 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:27.720 Jas doing well? 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:28.080 Thank you? 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:29.440 So? 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.039 How long have you known, being a reporter in California 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:34.760 of Kamala Harris? 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.720 Long since she was district Yeah, since she was first 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.559 running for district attorney. 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.480 And you followed her rise over the years. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.520 Anything stand out about the current Kamala we're seeing versus 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.880 the Kamala you've known all these years, or any comment 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:53.240 on that. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:58.400 Well, what's interesting is I think today she really comes 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.840 off like a fish out of water. Back when she 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.800 was San Francisco DA, and even when she was still 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:09.160 California Attorney General, I think she was operating in her world, 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.280 the world she was familiar with San Francisco and California, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.480 and she exuded a lot more confidence back then. Today, 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.000 I think she comes off like she's not ready for 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.720 prime time, and when she gets caught the way she 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.520 did yesterday, unable to answer questions with Brett Bhaer in 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:33.480 the Fox interview, I actually used the B word to 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.760 describe her. I'll say shrue right now. 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.240 Who did you use the B word to when you 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.720 were describing her your husband. 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.839 Or yes, yeah, I didn't write it, but I would 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.840 say shrew because then you Shreue was a woman of 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:55.200 violent temper, which she is notorious for having. Really, and 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.840 I think he really flipped on Brett Bhaer in that 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.440 interview when she just started yelling at him. Yeah, I 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.240 think I think that's that's that's Kamala. 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.400 Of course, that's a raw shock test thing where if 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.720 you're predisposed to not dig her act, it looks like she's, 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.280 you know, kind of a bee uh where suppose if 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.160 you're a fan, you know, she's just strongly pushing back 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.560 against the the the maga white male of Fox. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.880 So I guess that's the way that works. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.440 But so so I've been trying to figure out for 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.240 a long time, and it sounds like you have an 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.920 answer to this question. Is the real Kamala Kamala the cop, Kamala, 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:36.040 the prosecutor, Kamala the hard ass going after criminals, or 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:40.640 is the real Kama Kamala the twenty nineteen presidential candidate 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.880 who was a huge failure, who is like so soft 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:49.440 and lefty and you know, just like the very degree 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.680 of being a liberal, which is a real her Well, 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:54.480 and you you. 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.240 Ask a very very good question, because I think Kamala 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:01.120 was created at a whole cloth. Seen this happen before 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:07.560 with other politicians. Her go to is always total leftism. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:11.280 She's very clearly much a Marxist. She's not a tough 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.960 cop type of lawyer or prosecutor. If she was, she 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:20.080 actually would have prosecuted not the guys who were caught 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.200 with marijuana, but maybe the guys that sold it to them. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:24.520 And that's all she did. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:25.160 She was just. 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.040 Looking for wins and it didn't matter if they were 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:32.760 big wins like mailing dealers or suppliers. And that was 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.320 definitely her reputation in San Francisco. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.400 So at what point, and I think you know where 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.120 we're going to go with this, At what point did 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.680 she start dating the most powerful man at the time 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:48.159 in the entire state of California, Willie Brown. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.160 She started dating him before she ever got into politics. 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.320 He's the one that facilitated her getting into politics and 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.800 had the ability to raise the money to make her win. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.400 And what I understand and have had this confirmed via 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:10.279 word of mouth, is that when Allanan was still the 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.400 San Francisco District Attorney and Kamala had worked for him, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:20.200 he was prosecuting some of Willie Brown's friends. I'll say 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.440 there was some corruption going on in San Francisco. I know, 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.920 you're shocked, and Willie Brown did not want that, and 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.800 so he put Kamala up to it and made sure 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.080 she was so fully funded she could pretty much just 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.839 buy the victory and then all the corruption charges went away. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:41.360 Okay, so that's interesting. So Willy Brown, for people who 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.920 don't know around the country, was a mayor in San Francisco. 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.400 He was a speaker in the He was the most 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.440 powerful man in the state government for a very long time. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.080 He was the most powerful man in the entire state 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.920 of California. But so it wasn't just she was young 0:05:55.960 --> 0:06:01.360 and hot that he was interested in her. He helped 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.440 her rise up through the ranks and made some problems 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.360 go away for him and his friends. 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.280 Yeah, and I think that continued obviously as she was 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:13.600 district attorney. And you know, over the years we've certainly 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.800 seen other cases of it. It's good to have a 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:18.360 district attorney in your back pocket. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.400 He was married at the time that he had a 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:22.920 relationship with Kamala Harris. Correct. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:29.080 Yes, Willie Brown was a notorious womanizer, and I believe 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.359 they were together a couple of years. And what I 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.120 understand from locals there is she actually broke it off 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.440 because it was pretty evident he wasn't going to leave 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.279 his wife to make a permanent life with her. 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.719 Well, I guess good for her for figuring that out, 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.880 you know, which is obviously kind of obviously you know, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:47.600 like if you're watching Sex and the City or whatever. 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:52.320 But so have you seen that video that is going around. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.120 I saw it on Twitter where God, it's way way 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.080 way back in the day, and she's Willie Brown's girlfriend, 0:06:58.080 --> 0:06:59.279 and some reporter. 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:00.679 Asks her, are you his daughter? 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.720 It's at some function yea, and she says no because 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.960 she's so young in that video. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:10.440 Oh I know, it's it was. Yeah, there was definitely 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.000 and obviously a you know, a large age gap. I 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.720 think it was twenty nine years. But they were, you know, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.440 as I said, together for two years, and he took 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:26.360 her on the San Francisco circuit, every fundraiser, Imaginable, the opera, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:30.320 the ballet, you know, every event. It was probably you know, 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:34.120 a great time for her. But it was after that 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.800 that he appointed her to a couple of different commissions. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.480 So in addition to being a I think she was 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.360 working for the city attorney at that time, making whatever 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.440 a city attorney makes, she was also getting paid for 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.520 attending a few meetings a year, and I think it 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.200 was something well over one hundred thousand just for sitting 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:52.120 on those commissions. 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.240 Wow, it was a good time for her. If you're 0:07:55.280 --> 0:08:02.600 okay with sleeping with somebody who's twice your age, yeah, 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.480 So there's no way to get inside her head to know, 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.000 you know, maybe you know, he's a very charismatic guy, 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.680 as you know Willie Brown, good looking, well dressed, charismatic, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:12.440 powerful guy. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.160 I mean, that could be very attractive. 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.160 So maybe she actually fell for him, or you know, 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:21.240 the fact that he was going to be a help 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.640 the glide path to riches in power, you know, is 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.600 also a recent sedate hum So how much of which 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:28.000 of each? 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.480 We don't know. I suppose no. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:31.560 Other than. 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.920 My assessment of Kamala is that she's incredibly ambitious more 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:42.959 is never enough type, and you pair that with perhaps 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.560 this very average intelligence and it kind of makes her dangerous. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:49.200 Okay, that angle of it, the average intelligence, What was 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.800 the what was the belief about her when she is 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.240 running around with Willie Brown? Where it was was everybody saying, man, 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.240 she's a rising star, she's going to be a big deal, 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:03.040 or as you're suggesting, she's kind of average. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:03.840 I don't. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:09.800 I don't think people were particularly impressed with her intellect. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.320 I think it was more she uh, you know, young, 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:19.440 pretty hanging out with Willie were vibrant, you know. It 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.240 was it was her youth and probably her ambition as 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:26.400 well that people recognized. It was never intellect, believe me. 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.760 So you're fairly solid on the idea that she's of 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.040 average intelligence because I've been trying to figure that out. 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:38.240 Also if she's just not, because I know some really 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.280 smart people that if you interviewed them with lights and 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.160 cameras would not do very well. I mean, it's its 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.120 own kind of skill to be able to do that. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:51.000 But you're pretty solid and feeling like she's actually average intelligence. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.839 Yes, I absolutely believe that. You know, I don't give 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.240 out IQ tests or anything. Sure, Yeah, I think I 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.040 think she's shown that many many times over the years, 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:06.320 and again, ambition always won out, and that's why, you know, 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.400 as I was describing the cases he chose to prosecute 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.800 in San Francisco. Even as Attorney general, she was vicious 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:16.280 as attorney general. She's the one that went after David 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:21.160 Delaydon who exposed that Planned Parenthood was selling baby parts 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:22.520 from aborted fetuses. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:23.160 Oh my god. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.920 Yeah, she's the one who went after him, not Planned 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.280 Parenthood or the people that were selling these baby parts. 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:34.760 Wow, that should be a scandal. Although it's tough for 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:39.000 anything to break through in our current political environment. As 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.520 you know, I mean, you're either either on Team Trump 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.920 or not, and it doesn't seem like anything moves the needle. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.440 Yesterday's interview with Brett Bear will not move the needle 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.199 at all. A near assassination didn't really move the needle. 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.640 So everybody's locked in. We're talking with Katie Grimes, editor 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.800 in chief of the California Globe. A couple of things 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.719 I wanted to hit on before we let you go. 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.200 First of all, as a California I can't believe Adam 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.040 Shift's going to be my senator at some point. That 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.760 is that is so disgusting to me that he is 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.120 able to benefit from lying about all that Russia stuff 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.520 and all the claims he made for years, and he's 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.280 going to freaking end up being a Senator probably for 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:15.880 the next thirty years. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:22.000 You know, I know that he just makes my skin crawl. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.480 He is, you know, the epitome of the vile, creepy politician. Absolutely, 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:30.680 and you're right, yeah, I am so disgusted that California 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:35.800 could not find somebody to beat him. It either speaks 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:40.120 volumes about California or volumes about the Republican Party in California, 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:44.280 which perhaps is more accurate. But all we can hope 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.520 at this point is that he's mostly neutered because the 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.560 GOP takes back the Senate. So I'm crossing all my 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.360 fingers and toes and saying a daily prayer. 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.920 And one other thing I just wanted to bring up. 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.679 This is kind of for my own personal knowledge. California 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:04.840 Glow the headline California mask dictators bringing back mask mandates? 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.240 Who and where are we gonna have mask mandates again? 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.080 The Bay Area. There's a several counties in the Bay 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:17.720 Area that have updated their public health department websites to 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:23.120 include mask mandates. It is mind boggling that they're going 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.680 to this again. And as I pointed, out in the article, 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:30.880 masks have been so debunked as having any value of 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.360 stopping a virus. Yeah, they stop bacteria, they don't stop 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.680 a virus. That I think it just shows you that 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:42.439 we do have a lot of real authoritarians in public health. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.240 I think they like doing this to people, and if 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.800 they thought it would gain any steam for the rest 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.200 of the state, they'd be thrilled. On an interesting note, Jack, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:55.160 that article, when I posted it on Facebook, Facebook took 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.920 it down. So I reposted it, and they took it 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.760 down again. I reposted it and said this time, Hey, 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:06.040 San Francisco Chronicle originated this story. I just did more 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.800 data and research on it. They took it down again. 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:10.360 Wow. 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.280 What do you think their argument would be, Because it's 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:14.840 not misinformation, it's just a thing. 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:16.600 I mean, it's true, that's the point. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.760 Yeah, they claim it was misinformation, they claim it was spam. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.920 I mean, it's just so frustrating. This is what we 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.280 deal with in California. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:28.160 Wow, is troubling. That is troubling. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.040 And from the side that's claiming that, you know, we 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.800 need to do away with the First Amendment. Katie Grimes, 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:34.720 you should follow her. You should read this stuff and 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.959 even if you're not in California, it will. 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:38.040 Affect you wherever you are. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.280 The editor in chief of the California Globe, Katie, thanks 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:40.959 for your time today. 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:43.680 Thank you Jack Yeah wow. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:48.440 Facebook taking down a factual article about mask mandate. What 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.520 more on the way stay here. 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.240 And So if in fact, then there are some reports 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.240 suggesting that he was in fact killed in that same neighborhood, 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.960 it would suggest that he hadmitted ability to move, that 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.320 his leadership role was coming to an end anyway, that 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:10.240 the group was suffering a degree of division manufacture because 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.120 of the ongoing assault. That is, all of which is 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.520 going to be much worse. Now. If it's in fact 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.000 confirmed that Sinwar is dead, it would be a blow 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:24.720 to Hamas, a morale blow, a leadership blow, and obviously 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.680 a pump big boost bra Israel and for premise event. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.520 Now, so it looks like Sinwar, the leader of Hamas, 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.080 is dead. We've seen some pictures that Katie pulled up. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.920 He is dead dead These dead sure looks like him. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.720 It looks like his face and it's his watch. So 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.720 unless it's an AI creation, but it came out of 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.640 the IDF. So they're trying to prove to the world 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:45.800 that they killed Sinwar. 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.680 Yeah, they did a tooth comparison and he had the 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.080 same mark on his ear as well. So they're doing 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:53.920 all sorts of stuff showing everybody. 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.520 So the guy that put together October seventh, the slaughter 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.240 of all the Israelis and was promised saying thousands more 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:03.600 if he could pull it off, is now dead. So 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.840 that's a good thing. How much does that mean to 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.960 the Middle East and US getting involved in Iran and 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:09.600 all that sort of stuff. We're gonna talk with Josh 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.760 Rogan coming up next segment. Josh Rogan or the Washington Post. 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.600 Really like him, super smart guy, good to talk to. 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.840 I like when bad things happen to bad people. You know, 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.480 we all struggle with the why do bad things happen 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.800 to good people? We all struggle with that philosophically, and 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.080 if you believe in God, how that whole thing Worksmen. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.520 I love when bad things happen to bad people. Years though. 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:29.200 I'm dead. 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:30.360 I'm dead. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:37.600 I'm dead. You know, I'm right, perfect, Michael, I'm dead. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.840 Because so that was the Nozrala, the leader of Hezbela, 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:42.720 who Israel killed. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:45.520 Dead? 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.360 He you did they killed him? 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.760 What two weeks ago, week and a half ago, and 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.920 now the leader they killed the leader of Hesbela and 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.320 the leader of Hamas like a week and a half apart, 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:57.200 and they've been trying to kill him. They've been trying 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.280 to kill both these guys for years. So that's pretty 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:00.960 damned interesting. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.040 All right. Later in the show, we're going to talk 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:04.880 to Katie's dad. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.320 Your dad was a judge for many, many years, and 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.320 I look forward to that conversation. I have a whole 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.080 bunch of different things I want to ask him, like, 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:13.760 do you have a rough idea how many cases he 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:14.360 probably did? 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.120 Oh? Boy, I know, but I know it's in the 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:18.720 hundreds for just murders. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:19.680 Wow. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:25.800 M do different judges get murders and some judges don't? 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.160 Or does every judge get everything? 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:31.040 There's different departments, so there's criminal court, civil court, right, 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.800 so he was a superior court, so he got all 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.840 the real real sweethearts. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:36.680 Yeah. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.400 I'm on the other hand, some of that stuff would 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:42.400 be boring af yea. My mom sat on a jury 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:46.800 one time for a dispute between two homeowners over like 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.920 a sewer pipe leaked and who's to blame for it? 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.960 Just can you imagine anything more deathly dull than that 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:57.000 sort of lawn missing work for that or being a 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:58.720 lawyer trying to prosecute it. So you got to look 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.840 up all the regulations around sewer lines and this and 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.040 now no that, no kidden, I'd. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:06.199 Rather come in and do this. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.119 So we're gonna talk to Josh Rogan and the wapole 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:10.160 about all that important stuff. 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.240 On the way. Stay here, Armstrong and Geeddy. 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:18.280 What we do have are multiple reports suggesting that they 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:22.000 have got him. We know from his radio officials that 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.959 they have a body someone who appears to be Yahya Sinoa. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:30.040 They have not conducted a DNA test on that body. 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.359 I think we have to exercise extreme caution. Has been 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.280 reported killed a number of times over the last more 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.359 than a year now since this operation is in Gaza, 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.280 has been ongoing. And what we do have for a 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:43.160 number of photographs that are circulating online which some people 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.120 suggest could be him, but again we have absolutely no confirmation. 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:48.480 Yeah, I think it's him. I think in this case 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:49.960 it is him. He is actually dead. 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.240 I've seen the pictures myself, and you know, I haven't 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.760 extracted his teeth or anything like that, but I think 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.760 that Sinowar the leader of Hamas is dead. Josh Rogan, 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.840 who are about to talk to who follows open source 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.240 intelligence on Twitter just like we do, and they're reporting 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.679 that both US and Israeli officials are concerned that the 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:13.280 elimination of Sinoar may lead Hamas to execute the remaining 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:18.159 hostages being held in Gaza, which obviously would be horrifying. 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.399 Josh Rogan is the Global opinions columnist for the Washington Post, 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.240 and he joins us again on the Armstrong and Getty Show. Josh, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:25.520 what do you think of the latest news? 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.040 Well, you know, if true, one more terrorists off the 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.320 face of the earth, that's a good thing. You know, 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:38.560 this guy psychopaths blood of Americans, the blood of israelis, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.639 blood of Palestinians all over his hands. So yeah, I 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.880 think we can take a moment and appreciate the fact 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.600 that he's no longer breathing. After that, it doesn't seem 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.760 like this is going to change much. To be honest, 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.000 The war is going to go on. They'll find some 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:57.280 other terrorists to lead a mosque sooner rather than later. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.080 It's not likely this will cause a breakthrough in the 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.760 ceasefire talks because usually when you kill the guy who's 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:07.360 in charge of the talks. That slows down the process. Anyway, 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:11.600 the Israeli showing no intention of slowing down their new 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:15.200 assaults in Gaza and in Lebanon. So this is gonna 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:16.080 get worse before it gets better. 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:20.280 Jack, I'm always fascinated in this question of killing a 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.879 leader makes any difference. You know, if you killed Hitler, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.840 wouldn't of that made a big difference in the Nazi regime? 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:30.280 Or is that like a particular example like bin Laden 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.239 That is different with Hamas and Hesblow, where you get 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:34.880 rid of one leader and you just get a different one. 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:41.000 Yeah, I mean it's important militarily, but not necessarily strategically. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.199 Hitler is kind of a different example. I mean, his 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:44.960 own generals are trying to kill him, So if he 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.320 had died, yeah, we could expect a big change in policy. 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:51.000 I'm it's not exactly the same thing. But tactically it's 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.359 a good accomplishment. It keeps the enemy on their toes, 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:58.200 disrupts whatever they've got going on. Strategically, again, it's kind 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.080 of like, okay, well then what and you know, we 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:05.520 won every tactical military battle in Iraq and Afghanistan for 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.560 twenty years and managed to lose both of those wars 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.560 in a strategic sense. And it's not exactly the same thing, 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.400 but you could see how that informs what's going on. 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:14.080 With Israel now. 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:18.400 They're getting very very good, probably the best at killing terrorists, 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:22.000 but does that lead to piece and stability. I would 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:23.720 like to hear how, you know, I would like to 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:24.760 hear the theory of that case. 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:27.440 So is it a big deal that we used our 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.800 big B two bombers to bomb the Houthis yesterday? 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:31.800 Yeah? 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.840 Well again, escalation, I think this is getting You know, 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.160 you've got Lebanon, You've got an impending is Eraarli attack 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.800 on Iran, a retaliation for the missiccial attack that we're 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.520 still waiting for. You've got Gaza, and now you've got 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:46.000 escalating war. And ye, I mean that's four right there, Syria, 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.680 that's five. So that's five wars that Israel's in. And 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.600 if Israel's in them, that means we're in them. It 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:54.000 means our assets are being used, it means our men 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.919 and women are involved, they're in danger, and we've got 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:00.399 men and women all over that region that are in 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.119