1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arms. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Strong and gay and he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Critics just said that you either relaxed or failed to 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: enforce sanctions on Iran, allowing all of this money to 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: flow into Iran. 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: Like Billy, let's go back to Donald Trump. Hold on 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: who pulled out of who pulled out of a deal 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: that would have actually put but here Ron in check 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: the estimates and bill during Donald Trump's administration, that Ron regime, 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: that we had an American military base that was attacked 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: where American soldiers suffered traumatic brain injuries. 13 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris with Brett Barry yesterday and we played some 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: of that already in the show, and we'll have more 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: of but coming up later and a little punditry around 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: that just wanted to establish Kamala Harris's voice and presidence 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: before we got to Katie Grimes, who's been following Kamala 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: Harris's career for quite some time. Katie Grahams, if you 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: don't know this around the country, is the editor in 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: chief of the California Globe. Longtime investigative journalist covering the 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: California state capitol. Co author of the book California's War 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: Against Donald Trump, Katie Grimes joins The Armstrong and Getty Show. 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: Katie, How are you doing today? 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 4: Hi? 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 5: Jas doing well? 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 6: Thank you? 27 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 7: So? 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: How long have you known, being a reporter in California 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: of Kamala Harris? 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 6: Long since she was district Yeah, since she was first 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 6: running for district attorney. 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: And you followed her rise over the years. 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Anything stand out about the current Kamala we're seeing versus 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: the Kamala you've known all these years, or any comment 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: on that. 36 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 6: Well, what's interesting is I think today she really comes 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 6: off like a fish out of water. Back when she 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 6: was San Francisco DA, and even when she was still 39 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 6: California Attorney General, I think she was operating in her world, 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 6: the world she was familiar with San Francisco and California, 41 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 6: and she exuded a lot more confidence back then. Today, 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 6: I think she comes off like she's not ready for 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 6: prime time, and when she gets caught the way she 44 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 6: did yesterday, unable to answer questions with Brett Bhaer in 45 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 6: the Fox interview, I actually used the B word to 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 6: describe her. I'll say shrue right now. 47 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: Who did you use the B word to when you 48 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: were describing her your husband. 49 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 6: Or yes, yeah, I didn't write it, but I would 50 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 6: say shrew because then you Shreue was a woman of 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 6: violent temper, which she is notorious for having. Really, and 52 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 6: I think he really flipped on Brett Bhaer in that 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 6: interview when she just started yelling at him. Yeah, I 54 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 6: think I think that's that's that's Kamala. 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: Of course, that's a raw shock test thing where if 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: you're predisposed to not dig her act, it looks like she's, 57 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a bee uh where suppose if 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: you're a fan, you know, she's just strongly pushing back 59 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: against the the the maga white male of Fox. 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: So I guess that's the way that works. 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: But so so I've been trying to figure out for 62 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: a long time, and it sounds like you have an 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: answer to this question. Is the real Kamala Kamala the cop, Kamala, 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: the prosecutor, Kamala the hard ass going after criminals, or 65 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: is the real Kama Kamala the twenty nineteen presidential candidate 66 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: who was a huge failure, who is like so soft 67 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: and lefty and you know, just like the very degree 68 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: of being a liberal, which is a real her Well, 69 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: and you you. 70 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 6: Ask a very very good question, because I think Kamala 71 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 6: was created at a whole cloth. Seen this happen before 72 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 6: with other politicians. Her go to is always total leftism. 73 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 6: She's very clearly much a Marxist. She's not a tough 74 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 6: cop type of lawyer or prosecutor. If she was, she 75 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 6: actually would have prosecuted not the guys who were caught 76 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 6: with marijuana, but maybe the guys that sold it to them. 77 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 6: And that's all she did. 78 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 5: She was just. 79 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 6: Looking for wins and it didn't matter if they were 80 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 6: big wins like mailing dealers or suppliers. And that was 81 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 6: definitely her reputation in San Francisco. 82 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: So at what point, and I think you know where 83 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: we're going to go with this, At what point did 84 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: she start dating the most powerful man at the time 85 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: in the entire state of California, Willie Brown. 86 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 6: She started dating him before she ever got into politics. 87 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 6: He's the one that facilitated her getting into politics and 88 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 6: had the ability to raise the money to make her win. 89 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 6: And what I understand and have had this confirmed via 90 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 6: word of mouth, is that when Allanan was still the 91 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 6: San Francisco District Attorney and Kamala had worked for him, 92 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 6: he was prosecuting some of Willie Brown's friends. I'll say 93 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 6: there was some corruption going on in San Francisco. I know, 94 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 6: you're shocked, and Willie Brown did not want that, and 95 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 6: so he put Kamala up to it and made sure 96 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 6: she was so fully funded she could pretty much just 97 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 6: buy the victory and then all the corruption charges went away. 98 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's interesting. So Willy Brown, for people who 99 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: don't know around the country, was a mayor in San Francisco. 100 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: He was a speaker in the He was the most 101 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: powerful man in the state government for a very long time. 102 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: He was the most powerful man in the entire state 103 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: of California. But so it wasn't just she was young 104 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: and hot that he was interested in her. He helped 105 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: her rise up through the ranks and made some problems 106 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: go away for him and his friends. 107 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think that continued obviously as she was 108 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 6: district attorney. And you know, over the years we've certainly 109 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 6: seen other cases of it. It's good to have a 110 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 6: district attorney in your back pocket. 111 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: He was married at the time that he had a 112 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: relationship with Kamala Harris. Correct. 113 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 6: Yes, Willie Brown was a notorious womanizer, and I believe 114 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 6: they were together a couple of years. And what I 115 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 6: understand from locals there is she actually broke it off 116 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 6: because it was pretty evident he wasn't going to leave 117 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 6: his wife to make a permanent life with her. 118 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: Well, I guess good for her for figuring that out, 119 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, which is obviously kind of obviously you know, 120 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: like if you're watching Sex and the City or whatever. 121 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: But so have you seen that video that is going around. 122 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: I saw it on Twitter where God, it's way way 123 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: way back in the day, and she's Willie Brown's girlfriend, 124 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: and some reporter. 125 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 2: Asks her, are you his daughter? 126 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: It's at some function yea, and she says no because 127 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: she's so young in that video. 128 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 6: Oh I know, it's it was. Yeah, there was definitely 129 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 6: and obviously a you know, a large age gap. I 130 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 6: think it was twenty nine years. But they were, you know, 131 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 6: as I said, together for two years, and he took 132 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 6: her on the San Francisco circuit, every fundraiser, Imaginable, the opera, 133 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 6: the ballet, you know, every event. It was probably you know, 134 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 6: a great time for her. But it was after that 135 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 6: that he appointed her to a couple of different commissions. 136 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 6: So in addition to being a I think she was 137 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 6: working for the city attorney at that time, making whatever 138 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 6: a city attorney makes, she was also getting paid for 139 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 6: attending a few meetings a year, and I think it 140 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 6: was something well over one hundred thousand just for sitting 141 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 6: on those commissions. 142 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: Wow, it was a good time for her. If you're 143 00:07:55,280 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: okay with sleeping with somebody who's twice your age, yeah, 144 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: So there's no way to get inside her head to know, 145 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you know, he's a very charismatic guy, 146 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: as you know Willie Brown, good looking, well dressed, charismatic, 147 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: powerful guy. 148 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that could be very attractive. 149 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: So maybe she actually fell for him, or you know, 150 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: the fact that he was going to be a help 151 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: the glide path to riches in power, you know, is 152 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: also a recent sedate hum So how much of which 153 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: of each? 154 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: We don't know. I suppose no. 155 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 8: Other than. 156 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 6: My assessment of Kamala is that she's incredibly ambitious more 157 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 6: is never enough type, and you pair that with perhaps 158 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 6: this very average intelligence and it kind of makes her dangerous. 159 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: Okay, that angle of it, the average intelligence, What was 160 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: the what was the belief about her when she is 161 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: running around with Willie Brown? Where it was was everybody saying, man, 162 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: she's a rising star, she's going to be a big deal, 163 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: or as you're suggesting, she's kind of average. 164 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 5: I don't. 165 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 6: I don't think people were particularly impressed with her intellect. 166 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 6: I think it was more she uh, you know, young, 167 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 6: pretty hanging out with Willie were vibrant, you know. It 168 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 6: was it was her youth and probably her ambition as 169 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 6: well that people recognized. It was never intellect, believe me. 170 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: So you're fairly solid on the idea that she's of 171 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: average intelligence because I've been trying to figure that out. 172 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Also if she's just not, because I know some really 173 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: smart people that if you interviewed them with lights and 174 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: cameras would not do very well. I mean, it's its 175 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: own kind of skill to be able to do that. 176 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: But you're pretty solid and feeling like she's actually average intelligence. 177 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 6: Yes, I absolutely believe that. You know, I don't give 178 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 6: out IQ tests or anything. Sure, Yeah, I think I 179 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 6: think she's shown that many many times over the years, 180 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 6: and again, ambition always won out, and that's why, you know, 181 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 6: as I was describing the cases he chose to prosecute 182 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 6: in San Francisco. Even as Attorney general, she was vicious 183 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 6: as attorney general. She's the one that went after David 184 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 6: Delaydon who exposed that Planned Parenthood was selling baby parts 185 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 6: from aborted fetuses. 186 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 187 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, she's the one who went after him, not Planned 188 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 6: Parenthood or the people that were selling these baby parts. 189 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: Wow, that should be a scandal. Although it's tough for 190 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: anything to break through in our current political environment. As 191 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you're either either on Team Trump 192 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: or not, and it doesn't seem like anything moves the needle. 193 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: Yesterday's interview with Brett Bear will not move the needle 194 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: at all. A near assassination didn't really move the needle. 195 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: So everybody's locked in. We're talking with Katie Grimes, editor 196 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: in chief of the California Globe. A couple of things 197 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: I wanted to hit on before we let you go. 198 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: First of all, as a California I can't believe Adam 199 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: Shift's going to be my senator at some point. That 200 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: is that is so disgusting to me that he is 201 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: able to benefit from lying about all that Russia stuff 202 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: and all the claims he made for years, and he's 203 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: going to freaking end up being a Senator probably for 204 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: the next thirty years. 205 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 6: You know, I know that he just makes my skin crawl. 206 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 6: He is, you know, the epitome of the vile, creepy politician. Absolutely, 207 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 6: and you're right, yeah, I am so disgusted that California 208 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 6: could not find somebody to beat him. It either speaks 209 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 6: volumes about California or volumes about the Republican Party in California, 210 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 6: which perhaps is more accurate. But all we can hope 211 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 6: at this point is that he's mostly neutered because the 212 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 6: GOP takes back the Senate. So I'm crossing all my 213 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 6: fingers and toes and saying a daily prayer. 214 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: And one other thing I just wanted to bring up. 215 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: This is kind of for my own personal knowledge. California 216 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: Glow the headline California mask dictators bringing back mask mandates? 217 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: Who and where are we gonna have mask mandates again? 218 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 6: The Bay Area. There's a several counties in the Bay 219 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 6: Area that have updated their public health department websites to 220 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 6: include mask mandates. It is mind boggling that they're going 221 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 6: to this again. And as I pointed, out in the article, 222 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 6: masks have been so debunked as having any value of 223 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 6: stopping a virus. Yeah, they stop bacteria, they don't stop 224 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 6: a virus. That I think it just shows you that 225 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 6: we do have a lot of real authoritarians in public health. 226 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 6: I think they like doing this to people, and if 227 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 6: they thought it would gain any steam for the rest 228 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 6: of the state, they'd be thrilled. On an interesting note, Jack, 229 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 6: that article, when I posted it on Facebook, Facebook took 230 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 6: it down. So I reposted it, and they took it 231 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 6: down again. I reposted it and said this time, Hey, 232 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 6: San Francisco Chronicle originated this story. I just did more 233 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 6: data and research on it. They took it down again. 234 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: Wow. 235 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: What do you think their argument would be, Because it's 236 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: not misinformation, it's just a thing. 237 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's true, that's the point. 238 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, they claim it was misinformation, they claim it was spam. 239 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 6: I mean, it's just so frustrating. This is what we 240 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 6: deal with in California. 241 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: Wow, is troubling. That is troubling. 242 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: And from the side that's claiming that, you know, we 243 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: need to do away with the First Amendment. Katie Grimes, 244 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: you should follow her. You should read this stuff and 245 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: even if you're not in California, it will. 246 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: Affect you wherever you are. 247 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: The editor in chief of the California Globe, Katie, thanks 248 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: for your time today. 249 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: Thank you Jack Yeah wow. 250 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: Facebook taking down a factual article about mask mandate. What 251 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: more on the way stay here. 252 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 9: And So if in fact, then there are some reports 253 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 9: suggesting that he was in fact killed in that same neighborhood, 254 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 9: it would suggest that he hadmitted ability to move, that 255 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 9: his leadership role was coming to an end anyway, that 256 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 9: the group was suffering a degree of division manufacture because 257 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 9: of the ongoing assault. That is, all of which is 258 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 9: going to be much worse. Now. If it's in fact 259 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 9: confirmed that Sinwar is dead, it would be a blow 260 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 9: to Hamas, a morale blow, a leadership blow, and obviously 261 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 9: a pump big boost bra Israel and for premise event. 262 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: Now, so it looks like Sinwar, the leader of Hamas, 263 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: is dead. We've seen some pictures that Katie pulled up. 264 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: He is dead dead These dead sure looks like him. 265 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: It looks like his face and it's his watch. So 266 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: unless it's an AI creation, but it came out of 267 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: the IDF. So they're trying to prove to the world 268 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: that they killed Sinwar. 269 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, they did a tooth comparison and he had the 270 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 8: same mark on his ear as well. So they're doing 271 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 8: all sorts of stuff showing everybody. 272 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: So the guy that put together October seventh, the slaughter 273 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: of all the Israelis and was promised saying thousands more 274 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: if he could pull it off, is now dead. So 275 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. How much does that mean to 276 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: the Middle East and US getting involved in Iran and 277 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. We're gonna talk with Josh 278 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: Rogan coming up next segment. Josh Rogan or the Washington Post. 279 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: Really like him, super smart guy, good to talk to. 280 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: I like when bad things happen to bad people. You know, 281 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: we all struggle with the why do bad things happen 282 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: to good people? We all struggle with that philosophically, and 283 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: if you believe in God, how that whole thing Worksmen. 284 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: I love when bad things happen to bad people. Years though. 285 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: I'm dead. 286 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 6: I'm dead. 287 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm dead. You know, I'm right, perfect, Michael, I'm dead. 288 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: Because so that was the Nozrala, the leader of Hezbela, 289 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: who Israel killed. 290 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 5: Dead? 291 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: He you did they killed him? 292 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: What two weeks ago, week and a half ago, and 293 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: now the leader they killed the leader of Hesbela and 294 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: the leader of Hamas like a week and a half apart, 295 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: and they've been trying to kill him. They've been trying 296 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: to kill both these guys for years. So that's pretty 297 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: damned interesting. 298 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: All right. Later in the show, we're going to talk 299 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: to Katie's dad. 300 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: Your dad was a judge for many, many years, and 301 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: I look forward to that conversation. I have a whole 302 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: bunch of different things I want to ask him, like, 303 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: do you have a rough idea how many cases he 304 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: probably did? 305 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: Oh? Boy, I know, but I know it's in the 306 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: hundreds for just murders. 307 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 6: Wow. 308 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: M do different judges get murders and some judges don't? 309 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: Or does every judge get everything? 310 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 8: There's different departments, so there's criminal court, civil court, right, 311 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 8: so he was a superior court, so he got all 312 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 8: the real real sweethearts. 313 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 10: Yeah. 314 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm on the other hand, some of that stuff would 315 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: be boring af yea. My mom sat on a jury 316 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: one time for a dispute between two homeowners over like 317 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: a sewer pipe leaked and who's to blame for it? 318 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: Just can you imagine anything more deathly dull than that 319 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: sort of lawn missing work for that or being a 320 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: lawyer trying to prosecute it. So you got to look 321 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: up all the regulations around sewer lines and this and 322 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: now no that, no kidden, I'd. 323 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 2: Rather come in and do this. 324 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk to Josh Rogan and the wapole 325 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: about all that important stuff. 326 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: On the way. Stay here, Armstrong and Geeddy. 327 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 4: What we do have are multiple reports suggesting that they 328 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: have got him. We know from his radio officials that 329 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 4: they have a body someone who appears to be Yahya Sinoa. 330 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: They have not conducted a DNA test on that body. 331 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 7: I think we have to exercise extreme caution. Has been 332 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 7: reported killed a number of times over the last more 333 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 7: than a year now since this operation is in Gaza, 334 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 7: has been ongoing. And what we do have for a 335 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 7: number of photographs that are circulating online which some people 336 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 7: suggest could be him, but again we have absolutely no confirmation. 337 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's him. I think in this case 338 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: it is him. He is actually dead. 339 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: I've seen the pictures myself, and you know, I haven't 340 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: extracted his teeth or anything like that, but I think 341 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: that Sinowar the leader of Hamas is dead. Josh Rogan, 342 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: who are about to talk to who follows open source 343 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: intelligence on Twitter just like we do, and they're reporting 344 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: that both US and Israeli officials are concerned that the 345 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: elimination of Sinoar may lead Hamas to execute the remaining 346 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: hostages being held in Gaza, which obviously would be horrifying. 347 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: Josh Rogan is the Global opinions columnist for the Washington Post, 348 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: and he joins us again on the Armstrong and Getty Show. Josh, 349 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: what do you think of the latest news? 350 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 5: Well, you know, if true, one more terrorists off the 351 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 5: face of the earth, that's a good thing. You know, 352 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 5: this guy psychopaths blood of Americans, the blood of israelis, 353 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 5: blood of Palestinians all over his hands. So yeah, I 354 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 5: think we can take a moment and appreciate the fact 355 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 5: that he's no longer breathing. After that, it doesn't seem 356 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 5: like this is going to change much. To be honest, 357 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 5: The war is going to go on. They'll find some 358 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 5: other terrorists to lead a mosque sooner rather than later. 359 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 5: It's not likely this will cause a breakthrough in the 360 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 5: ceasefire talks because usually when you kill the guy who's 361 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 5: in charge of the talks. That slows down the process. Anyway, 362 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 5: the Israeli showing no intention of slowing down their new 363 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 5: assaults in Gaza and in Lebanon. So this is gonna 364 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 5: get worse before it gets better. 365 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: Jack, I'm always fascinated in this question of killing a 366 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: leader makes any difference. You know, if you killed Hitler, 367 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't of that made a big difference in the Nazi regime? 368 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: Or is that like a particular example like bin Laden 369 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: That is different with Hamas and Hesblow, where you get 370 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: rid of one leader and you just get a different one. 371 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's important militarily, but not necessarily strategically. 372 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 5: Hitler is kind of a different example. I mean, his 373 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 5: own generals are trying to kill him, So if he 374 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 5: had died, yeah, we could expect a big change in policy. 375 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 5: I'm it's not exactly the same thing. But tactically it's 376 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 5: a good accomplishment. It keeps the enemy on their toes, 377 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 5: disrupts whatever they've got going on. Strategically, again, it's kind 378 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 5: of like, okay, well then what and you know, we 379 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 5: won every tactical military battle in Iraq and Afghanistan for 380 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 5: twenty years and managed to lose both of those wars 381 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 5: in a strategic sense. And it's not exactly the same thing, 382 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 5: but you could see how that informs what's going on. 383 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: With Israel now. 384 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 5: They're getting very very good, probably the best at killing terrorists, 385 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 5: but does that lead to piece and stability. I would 386 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 5: like to hear how, you know, I would like to 387 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 5: hear the theory of that case. 388 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: So is it a big deal that we used our 389 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: big B two bombers to bomb the Houthis yesterday? 390 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? 391 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 5: Well again, escalation, I think this is getting You know, 392 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 5: you've got Lebanon, You've got an impending is Eraarli attack 393 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 5: on Iran, a retaliation for the missiccial attack that we're 394 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: still waiting for. You've got Gaza, and now you've got 395 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 5: escalating war. And ye, I mean that's four right there, Syria, 396 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 5: that's five. So that's five wars that Israel's in. And 397 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 5: if Israel's in them, that means we're in them. It 398 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 5: means our assets are being used, it means our men 399 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 5: and women are involved, they're in danger, and we've got 400 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 5: men and women all over that region that are in 401 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 5: danger right now. So yeah, it's an escalation. And again, 402 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 5: if the goal is to restore deterrence, to scare the 403 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 5: bad guys and to stop fighting, Okay, I can understand that, 404 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 5: But okay, is that happening? I don't think so, they 405 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 5: don't seem deterred, and then what happens the day after? 406 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 5: How do you get past this at some point? That's 407 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 5: I think what everyone's really struggling to understand. 408 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I didn't actually hear your podcast you're on 409 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: with David Ignatius. Just how bad would the Middle East get? 410 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: And I know it's a gas. The story that came 411 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: out yesterday is Iran or Israel is ready to attack Iran. 412 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: They are going to attack Iran before the presidential election. 413 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: How do you see this playing out? 414 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 5: Well, it depends what the attack is. I mean, Iran 415 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 5: fired three hundred plustig miss was an Israel that that 416 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 5: would be dangerous if they didn't respond to that. So 417 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 5: they've got to do something. What they hit, how they 418 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 5: do it, and whether or not it's sparks another escalatory 419 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 5: round of attacks from Iran or Those decisions are all 420 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 5: being made by the Israeli government. We don't really know 421 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 5: what they are. We won't know until they see the attack. So, yeah, 422 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 5: this is the problem of an escalation ladder once you 423 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 5: get on and it's really hard to get off of it. 424 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 5: And you know, we're making a calculation about Iran's deterrence, 425 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 5: they're making a calculation about Israel's deterrence, and those calculations 426 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 5: could be all wrong. They often are, and so in 427 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 5: a way, it's just sort of like, what we're really 428 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 5: contemplating here is the best case scenario is a long 429 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 5: medium boil war like that we have this level of 430 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 5: violence or slightly worse for years. That's that seems to 431 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 5: be the wow the positive scenario. The negative scenario is 432 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 5: that we escalate into something like a huge regional war, 433 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 5: all at war with around or even a nuclear exchange. 434 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 5: That's the downside risk. 435 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: A nuclear exchange between the nuclear exchange between who. 436 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 5: Well, Aaron is what one to two weeks away from 437 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 5: having a nuclear weapon assembled. According to the essence, Israel 438 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 5: has about one hundred to two hundred that they don't admit. 439 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 5: We've got to Russias. You know, you eventually one of 440 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 5: these actors could get desperate enough to use one. It 441 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 5: could be the Russians using it in Ukraine, because that 442 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 5: complex is connected to this one. Theironians are fighting in 443 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 5: Ukraine now, the North Koreans are fighting in Ukraine, and 444 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 5: you know, Russia supplying moss, Russia supplying has Belah. It's 445 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 5: this is getting worse, not better. These conflicts are getting 446 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 5: more connected, not less. And yeah, that's the slippery slope 447 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 5: that we're facing. And yes, the nuclear exchange is absolutely 448 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 5: the worst scenario, but there are a lot of perfectly 449 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 5: terrible scenarios short of that. 450 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And it gets very world warry when you 451 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: start putting all those pieces together the way you just did. 452 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 2: So we talked to I don't know if you know, 453 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: go ahead, No, people. 454 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 5: Forget that, like World War two didn't pop off in 455 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 5: a day, about you know, ten years to really get cooking, 456 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 5: you know. And we're into what year three of the 457 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 5: Ukraine War and year two of the Israel War. So yeah, 458 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 5: it might not be tomorrow, but this is how world 459 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 5: wars get going. 460 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 461 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: In World War One, you know, the Psalm and the 462 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: Germans and the Brits facing each other in France was 463 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: a lot different than the assassination of Archiduke Ferdinand, but 464 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: it all fit together exactly, So I don't know If 465 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: you know Mike Liones, we had him on earlier. He's 466 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: a military guy. He does a lot of stuff on 467 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: CNN and we have him on regularly. He thinks we 468 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: will that the administration is starting to get more aggressive, 469 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: letting Israel take the gloves off, and that we will 470 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: lay the groundwork in Iran by taking out some of 471 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: their stuff that only we can do that and then 472 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: let Israel do most of the attacking. 473 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 2: But that would get us pretty involved. Do you think 474 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: that's likely or no? 475 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think that's fine. I mean, I don't know. 476 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 5: I think gets fundamentally wrong in two respects. One is 477 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 5: that you know the I don't think US military ass 478 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 5: is going to be used to strike Iran. That's something 479 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 5: Joe Biden is something he's not going to do, and 480 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 5: even Donald Trump wouldn't do that. He'll they're perfectly happy 481 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 5: to let our allies strike Iran, but using military assets 482 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 5: to strike run crosses a line that No, I don't 483 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 5: think that's promise sources and the miners. There's no way 484 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 5: that they're going to take that stuff. And secondly, I 485 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 5: don't see you know, I guess I agree with Mike 486 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 5: that the administration is getting more formissive with the Israelis. 487 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 5: But it's not because they're really enthusiastic about it. It's 488 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 5: because Biden is a lame duck and the elections coming up, 489 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 5: and they just don't have anything to do. The ceasefire 490 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 5: talks are dead, you know, and they don't want it. 491 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 5: They've already sort of lost the Muslim and narrow voters. 492 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 5: If you're the Harris Walls campaign, so you might as 493 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 5: well double down on your support from the pro Israel community. 494 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 5: And the politics and the inertia and the basic laziness 495 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 5: of a lame duck presidency all add up to just 496 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 5: letting Israel do whatever it wants and then pretending. Remember 497 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 5: Joe Biden said to the cameras that iSER stopped in Lebanon. 498 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 5: He was against it, and then they did it, and 499 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 5: when I was just like, oh no, it's a really 500 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 5: great idea. 501 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 2: Right, you know, they totally reversed it, right, right? 502 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 5: So is that them taking an active stance and support 503 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 5: of this. No, No, it's just them following events rather 504 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 5: than shaping interesting. 505 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: Do you think that should take this opportunity to take 506 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: out their their nuclear facilities best that that can be done? 507 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 5: That seems like a pretty risky plan, to be honest, Jack. Yeah. 508 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, take out their nuclear facilities. 509 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 5: They got a lot of them. They're they're pretty well hidden, 510 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 5: they're pretty well defended. If it doesn't work, then we're 511 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 5: we're we're in it. You know, you can't attack someone's 512 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 5: nuclear program and then not succeed. And you know it's 513 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 5: a really hard target. Plus there's a lot of nuclear 514 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 5: stuff at those targets. They could have a pretty bad 515 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 5: effect if you blow it up. You know, I'm again again, 516 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 5: I'm like against degrading Iran. I think that's a good idea, 517 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 5: but it's you know, you have to sort of stop 518 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 5: for a second and think, Okay, Iran doesn't really want 519 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 5: a regional war. It's they've made that pretty clear. We 520 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 5: don't want a regional war. Lebanies don't want a regional war. 521 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 5: So maybe we can just you know, find a way 522 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 5: to back away from the ledge, as we've done before, 523 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 5: by the way, several times. 524 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: Right, And that just doesn't feel like that's where things 525 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: are headed, does it. 526 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 5: No, No, it doesn't look good. I can't say it's 527 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 5: looking that way. Yeah, I have to agree with your assessment. 528 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 5: It's looking like things are getting worse, not better. That's 529 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 5: that's the pattern. That's if you had to predict, you 530 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 5: would have to say things are going to get worse 531 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 5: before they get. 532 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: Better, and not to just and not just to be 533 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: the you know, the audio version of doom scrolling. But 534 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: it isn't China getting more belligerent than they have been 535 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: with their exercises around Taiwan and what they've been doing 536 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: to the Navy and the Philippines. 537 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is crazy idea sort of in Washington these 538 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 5: days that you might have read in some papers. I 539 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 5: want to mention about how sort of like, oh, China's different, 540 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 5: you know, Russian around in North Korea. Sure they're aggressive 541 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 5: and reckless and want to set back the West and redo, 542 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 5: but China is different. They want stability in business. And 543 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 5: you know, this is kind of a line that's also 544 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 5: promoted by the Chinese government because it masks what they're 545 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 5: actually doing, which is taking a much more sophisticated and 546 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 5: clever approach to their aggression. They're not you know, bombing hospitals, 547 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 5: they're just you know, harassing ships in the South China Sea, 548 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 5: doing mock blockades of Taiwan. Every time, the time when 549 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 5: he's president dares to open his mouth and you know, 550 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 5: building up the biggest nuclear and missile force, biggest military 551 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 5: expansion in history, and that is in a long term sense, 552 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 5: much more dangerous and permicious, pernicious and aggressive than even 553 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 5: what Russian and around in North Korea are doing right now. 554 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 5: But because they're doing it slightly more quietly than their allies, 555 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 5: we're totally missing it because you know, here we can 556 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 5: only sort of follow one, maybe two international crazies at 557 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 5: the time. 558 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: We don't have plus plus the Golden Bachelor's on, So 559 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: you got that. 560 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 5: Exactly. There's a lot going on. People are busy. But 561 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 5: the truth is that, like the Chinese government is very 562 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 5: intentional about you know, wrapping up their aggression in a 563 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 5: way that it goes under our radar. That's exactly their strategy, 564 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 5: and they have a lot of Americans who help them 565 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 5: do it. 566 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: Josh Rogan is a global opinion's columnists for The Washington Post. 567 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: If you like this sort of stuff, he is a 568 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: must read all the time, or follow him on Twitter 569 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: at Josh Rogan. Josh, thanks for your time as always, Yeah, man. 570 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: I could. 571 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: I could talk to him all day long. I have 572 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: like a fantasy of sitting at a bar with him, 573 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: like late into the night, listening him tell me stuff 574 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: that he can't say on the radio that he knows 575 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: China biggest military build up in world history. How about that? 576 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 577 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah me, you live in exciting times, which oddly enough 578 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: is a Chinese expression. 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Arm shot. 611 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 10: The old one is hit high and deep right field. 612 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 10: If it's fair, it's gone. And that one is fair. 613 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 10: I hit a home run, a towering home run ended 614 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 10: the second deck for show Hey Otani, the three run 615 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 10: homer and the Dodgers have blown it open. It's now 616 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 10: seven to nothing. 617 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: So the highest played athlete in the world a seven 618 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract. Show Hey Otani, hits a home 619 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: run for the Dodgers. He had been kind of quiet 620 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 1: so far anyway. So that series is now Dodgers two Mets, 621 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: one to one, best to seven series. This is to 622 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: go to the World Series. Yankees lead Cleveland to nothing. 623 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: Both contests today again another game today. So if you're 624 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: into baseball, enjoy that. I just dropped something on the 625 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: floor and picked it up quite easily, and I was 626 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: thinking about how much stretching has helped me. Here's a 627 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: PSA for stretching. Yes, public service announcement for stretching, which 628 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: I've been doing now for a couple of months. I 629 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: think Joe got me started on it because he's big 630 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: into stretching, because he's got a number of ailments that 631 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: required by doctors to stretch. But I'm just I've always 632 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: been super stiff. It's not an age thing. I couldn't 633 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: bend over and pick something off the floor when I 634 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: was thirty. 635 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 9: I just. 636 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: Probably the anger jacket's gotta be the anger. We're a 637 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: non bendi people. My family. 638 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 1: My brother when he was like I don't know how 639 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: old he was, thirty five, his doctor told him he 640 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: was the least flexible person he'd ever seen. 641 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: So kind of runs in our genetics. I guess, okay, but. 642 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: I've started stretching regularly. I do it every day, and now, yeah, 643 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: I dropped someone. I used to if I drop something 644 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: on the floor, I tell my kid Sam gonna come 645 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: downstairs and they just bring up this pen for me. 646 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 8: Or if you had to do it yourself and take 647 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 8: you thirteen minutes to get back up. 648 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I gotta put one leg like this and 649 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: kind of. 650 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: Pick that pen up. But now now it's easy. But 651 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: on my shoes pick things up off the floor just 652 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: from stretching on a regular basis for the first time. 653 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like exactly. That's tape of me 654 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: touching my toes. 655 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what, I think. Joe got me on 656 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 8: the stretching thing as well. It's the first thing I 657 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 8: do in the morning, and it's amazing the benefit that 658 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 8: it has. 659 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: It's for a couple of minutes, Yeah, it doesn't. It's 660 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: it's just a habit. So many there are. There are 661 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: good habits that take a lot of time and are difficulty, 662 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to get to the gym 663 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: and spend forty five minutes whatever. But there are a 664 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: lot of habits that are easy, like make your bed 665 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: stretch a little bit, you know, the one to take 666 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: the trash out of your car every time you stop, 667 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: and it just stuff like that. It takes no time 668 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: at all, and if you just get in the habit. 669 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: Trying and explain this to my kids yesterday. Habits are habits. 670 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: Good habits are habits. Bad habits are habits. They're all 671 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: hard to quit, and it's hard to quit a bad habit, 672 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: but it's also hard to quit a good habit. 673 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: Like I've I've always I've been exercise. 674 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: And for years and years and years and years, it's 675 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: hard for me to not exercise. Yeah, if it's it's 676 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: like if I'm if I'm toward the end of the 677 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: day and I haven't gotten some exercise yet, I don't 678 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: feel right. 679 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: It feels weird, like the idea of. 680 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: Going to bed without exercising, because it's just a habit 681 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: I've created, thank God. And I hadn't had the habit 682 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: of stretching, but I started it, and yeah, many benefits. 683 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 2: Very good. Yeah. 684 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 8: One of the habits I guess I started this year 685 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 8: was one of my New Year's resolution things, was if 686 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 8: it takes less than a minute. 687 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: Do it right now. That's a good one. 688 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 8: If I see something, If I see the few things 689 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 8: on the counter, I'm like, I'll grab them later. No, 690 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 8: It'll take me less than a minute to pick those 691 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 8: things up. So I'm doing it right now. 692 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that was Joe's New Year's resolution quite 693 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: a few years ago. His New Year's resolution was do 694 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: it now, just applying to all of those things. Yeah 695 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: that you think now, do that later. I could do 696 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: that now. It's always a better idea to do it now. 697 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 8: Boy, I was so good at procrastinating to man, so 698 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 8: good just doing it later, and boy would things get 699 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 8: backed up and I'd get. 700 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: Stressed and pissed. Oh yeah, it's a weird thing. 701 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: I've had that various belief about what procrastination is, what 702 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: causes it. There's some I mean, there's all kinds of 703 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: like it's you're you're you're making your life difficult on 704 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: purpose out of some sort of either martyr thing or 705 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: you don't feel good about yourself, and this helps reinforce 706 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: the fact that you're an f up by by by 707 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: by putting these things off and putting yourself in a crunch. 708 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, if any of that's true or not, I. 709 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 8: Think it was like a total depression anxiety thing. 710 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: It's it's not laziness though, I don't think it's that. 711 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a weirder psychological thing. And I've also 712 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: learned definitely over the years, if you get on a 713 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: roll with something, take that as long as you can. 714 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: You know how you can get on a cleaning roll, 715 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it's effortless. It's like 716 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm cleaning and I couldn't. It'd be hard to stop me. 717 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: Don't stop you go until you're like your hands are 718 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: bloody or something. I mean, because because it may not 719 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: come again for a very very long time. 720 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 8: You can't can't stand up straight, keep mopping. 721 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, because if I'm not in the mood to clean, 722 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: it just seems like, oh my god, the idea of 723 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: doing anything sounds impossible. We have a new T shirt, 724 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: hot dogs are Dogs. It's our best trans related T 725 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: shirt flying off the shelves. Go to Armstrong and Getdy 726 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: dot com hot dogs are Dogs. 727 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: It looks really really cool. 728 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 6: Armstrong and Getty