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Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have a

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Speaker 1: very special guest actor, author and podcaster Chris Reeva's is

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Speaker 1: in the building. What's going on, y'all? Hi, Hi, thank

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Speaker 1: you for having me. I'm so excited for you to

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Speaker 1: be here today. It's gonna be good. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: some delicious stuff. It's gonna be simple but delicious. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be delicious. It looks like very uh so,

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Speaker 1: what are you having us eat today? White rice, black beans?

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Speaker 1: And what really makes it special? As you put a

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Speaker 1: perfect Friday on top of it perfect Friday and make

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Speaker 1: the best Friday eggs. You heard it here. First, I

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Speaker 1: make the best fried egg. Okay, I am going to

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Speaker 1: rate your fried egg and all's little peep. How you're

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Speaker 1: doing it. To make it the best is not to

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Speaker 1: touch it. You gotta get the pants. Well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: show you good layer of butter, crack the egg. Okay, um,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and show me. Shall we begin? Yeah? We

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Speaker 1: should we can begin a we're good. Um, So, why

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Speaker 1: don't you tell me a little bit about yourself? Where

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Speaker 1: are you from? Originally? I am from New York City,

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Speaker 1: born and raised Queens to be exactly, Queens Burrows the

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Speaker 1: most diverse burrow on the planet. I don't actually think

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Speaker 1: that's a I think that's the like scientific fact. Oh

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Speaker 1: is it? Especially Jackson, I didn't know that. I I

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Speaker 1: have a joke amongst my friends that Queen's is the

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Speaker 1: only burrow I don't really like. Alright, it's just I

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Speaker 1: don't know why I don't like it, really, I just

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Speaker 1: feel like it's always out of the way. I'm from Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: but just the way, it's just out of the way.

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Speaker 1: All right. So we're gonna I'm gonna fry this up

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Speaker 1: a little bit. You gotta get it crispy. Okay, I've

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Speaker 1: never rice before. Don't let it do a thing. Did

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Speaker 1: you have to put butter or anything in there? Because

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Speaker 1: I wanted to crisp up a bit and it's already

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Speaker 1: cooked him and let it just sort of like get

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Speaker 1: real hot. You've never had crispy rice? No, well, I

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Speaker 1: mean when I go to a sushi restaurant. This is

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Speaker 1: kind of like I've never done it though. Okay, heat

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Speaker 1: So you're an actor, author, and podcaster. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: assume podcasters the last uh, like the most recent. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is the most So where did you start in acting?

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Speaker 1: I started in acting in like fifth grade. Uh in

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Speaker 1: New York. Saw Peter Pan, Sa Beauty and the Beast

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Speaker 1: in the same year. Huge for me. Where you saw

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Speaker 1: them on Broadway? Fancy my school took me. Uh, And

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Speaker 1: then I knew I wanted to act, but it didn't

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Speaker 1: really I didn't really settle in until I saw John

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Speaker 1: Nke was almost freak. John him, yeah, so a freak,

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Speaker 1: so freak was his his Broadway show, one man show,

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Speaker 1: just about his life. And he was like, he's a

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Speaker 1: Colombian kid. I was Colombian. He's from Queens Your your

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Speaker 1: Queen's Colombian like me and I. And it was just

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Speaker 1: you know, kid who never grows up, which some could

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Speaker 1: argue that I'm still that uh. You know, some people

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Speaker 1: I think that's something I'm proud of, Like my curiosity,

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Speaker 1: it's something I never want to lose. That's what allows

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Speaker 1: me to say yes more than say no. And so,

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Speaker 1: it's funny because now I see. Now I'm starting to

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Speaker 1: see why you do what you're doing, just based on

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Speaker 1: you saying that it was a room full of white people,

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Speaker 1: and he was actually just being himself and he was Columbia.

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Speaker 1: That's it. He was just himself and that was so

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Speaker 1: It's it's funny because acting is Everything you're saying is

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Speaker 1: It isn't yes, no right because we sort of we're

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Speaker 1: I used always be like, if I don't accomplish my dreams,

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Speaker 1: you know, I saw a lot of did you see

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Speaker 1: But that's that's my pops. I mean that I think

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Speaker 1: My dad taught me in New York does this better

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Speaker 1: Like my pops did not let me move through blind.

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Speaker 1: We're just watching it. And you will be on this

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Speaker 1: go ahead some Larri's. I know it's controversial. Well, the

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Speaker 1: something go down. Huh. They could teach you more than

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Speaker 1: a book, you know, if you're if you're just aware

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Speaker 1: when you're in it. Yeah, So what did your parents say?

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Speaker 1: Like that's the biggest blessing I guess is my parents.

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Speaker 1: He said, why are you doing this ship for me?

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Speaker 1: it's hot. You might miss the the yoke, but you

422
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Speaker 1: know no, I said, I'm gonna do it while it's hot.

423
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: We'll see if it running. Do you want me? It's

424
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: gonna the way you cooked it. It's definitely running. That's

425
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: how that's how the things work. No, that's just then

426
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: what it's still a little running. But okay, don't judge,

427
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: don't you were you were talking and distracting me. Wait

428
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: what was your You probably answered this a bunch, But

429
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: what was your eating while broke food? Um? Mine would

430
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: be corn meal, um porridge corn meal part Yeah, tell

431
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: me more. Um it's just when we were growing up,

432
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: my mom would always make hormeal porridge and we loved it.

433
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: And it's super cheap, and that would be it. That

434
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: would be my thing, cormeal porridge. I guess it's similar

435
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: to like a grits. Yeah, I mean we would do

436
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 1: and I still do a savory oatmeal, which is hell

437
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 1: it cheap that you can make it. Let me tell

438
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 1: you something, Your edg is phenomenal. Thanks, why face right now?

439
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: It's it's really happy. I'm trying. I don't even know.

440
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: I don't even know a phenomenal Is it the seasoning?

441
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: It's just the butter. It's the way it sits. You

442
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: don't touch it, kind of let it, let it all

443
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: rip out. You don't want to touch it. Right. That

444
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: is the most phenomenal egg I've ever ate my life.

445
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: And I'm a I don't even eat breakfast food outside

446
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: because I'm a I'll judge you. You should see me

447
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: throw down some scrambled eggs me my favorite food. I

448
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: would love to share it with you, Jared, because I

449
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: know you would love to try this. But this egg

450
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: is phenomenal, So you do it like this now, we

451
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: don't flip in it kissing the rice or the yolk. Yeah, no,

452
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: it looks yours looks great, but mine tastes amazing. This

453
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: is this is a great broke this ship. I should

454
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: have video. I ate this a lot. I mean, here's

455
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: the thing. I feel like I'm I'm lying to folks

456
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: because I ate it when I was broke by You're

457
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: still eat it now, dude. If you were like, holy

458
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: come dig it, I'm gonna make some of this, I'll

459
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: be okay, cool. I love you know what I mean.

460
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: My friends have come over it and nothing has been

461
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: in my crib but like ricing beans. And I've just

462
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: made ricing beans for a bunch of people. Always got

463
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: ricing beans for some strange reason, always thought when you

464
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: have lucan of beans that you have to do more

465
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: than just heat it up. No, but I do normally

466
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: like to rinse them after the can, rinse them out

467
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: of the can, get that water out, uh, and then

468
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: put him in a in a pot. And if you want,

469
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: like the real way Colombians do it. And this is

470
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: yummy as hell, y'all, anyone listening, throw some vinegar into

471
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: your ricing into your beans. Really fire some red wine

472
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: vinegar when you say some like how much of some

473
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: up to your flavor preference? Just hit it with a

474
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: little couple, you know, spot black. Okay, you know sometimes

475
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: you can't you can't give measurements. You just gotta feel

476
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: it out. I'm still trying to figure out why are

477
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: eggs tastes like this? It is the best egg I've

478
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: ever had in my life. That is the best egg

479
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: I've ever had in my life as a combination of flavor.

480
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: What the I didn't even know you can make that good?

481
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: But I have something that's gonna make you be disappointed.

482
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: I was, I was reading, I was reading up on you,

483
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: and you're like a huge fan of James Bond. Now,

484
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if I really know anything about James Bond.

485
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: The only thing I remember was like, not all the

486
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: way through You're seen one? Then, didn't I say? I

487
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: was going to say something, but the only thing well,

488
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: of course you're gonna yeah, But my question is is um,

489
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: the only thing I know about James Bond is like

490
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: he's this like suave a guy, right, and then halle

491
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Berry was like in one of the movies. Right, That's

492
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: all I know, And you're this huge fan of it,

493
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: So I have to know, like what's so great about

494
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: James Bond, to the point where I'll actually take time

495
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: to like go watch James Bond sell me, Like what

496
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: is it you like about it? I'm gonna sell you,

497
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: not sell you, because let's be honest. As a little kid,

498
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: you don't know this, but as an adult, James Bond

499
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 1: is widely problematic. He's a womanizer. You know, hello Machismore

500
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: because I'm a woman, you know. Uh he there are

501
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: tons of problems in those films. But as a kid,

502
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, what do I see? I see? He flies hell,

503
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: he gets all the ladies, he saves the day. He's

504
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 1: driving a nice whip, he got fun gadgets. He's like

505
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: every check box for a little boy. I'm like, that's tight.

506
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: And I love superheroes, but I was like, ain't no

507
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: lasers coming out of my eyes anytime soon? I don't

508
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: have webbing a spider Man. But like, maybe maybe I

509
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: could be this person, Like this person is just cool.

510
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: According to everything you tell me, this is possible if

511
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: I just be cool. And so as a little kid,

512
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: I kind of told myself this story, that's what I want.

513
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: I want to be cool. I want to be that,

514
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, like up to the point where I would

515
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: run around and like my tidy Whitey's with all my

516
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 1: nerve guns and pretend to be Bond, trying to be

517
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: some white British dude. What did your dad think about that?

518
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: I not trying to deter you, but I don't think

519
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: he actually thought anything of it until later, you know,

520
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: until the short of Ruby Rosa moment, but with the moment.

521
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: So in college, someone sent me an article about Portfidio

522
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: Rubido Sa and this is the article that changed my life. Truly.

523
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: It was Portio Rubidos. I was twice the richest man

524
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: in the world, married to five different women, lived in

525
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: Hitler's Germany, for Dell's Cuba, rand guns from Mayer Lansky

526
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: and the New York City mob, best friends with Sinatra

527
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: and Kennedy and the rat Pack, followed the FBI for

528
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: seventeen years, and then the real kicker. There was a

529
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: very good chance that James Bond was based on him

530
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: and my father's Dominican. I knew many Dominicans, and I

531
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: thought what if? I what if? For so much of

532
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: my life I wasn't pretending to be some white dude.

533
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: But I got to be my pops. I got to

534
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: be myself. I got to pretend to be like the

535
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: people in my neighborhood. But I have tried less to

536
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: be like them, and what I have had more love

537
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: for myself. There you go. You're gonna have to rewind

538
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: that my brains a little slow. That was a lot.

539
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: So you're saying that the person that James Bond was

540
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: based off of was actually Dominican and essentially what he

541
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: was doing in your neighborhood, if I'm if I'm getting

542
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: this right, was what people Dominicans were doing in the

543
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: crimes in the crime scene. He died. He died in

544
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: the fifty But I'm saying, like him being Dominican and

545
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 1: being like having the women, and he did, he had

546
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: the women, but he was doing he was obviously doing

547
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: a legal activity and all that stuff. When you found

548
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: out that James Bond was based off him, what shocked

549
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: you more the fact that it was he was Dominican

550
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: or the fact that it was based off a guy

551
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: that essentially was like doing bad stuff. It was the

552
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: fact that he was Dominican. It was the fact that,

553
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: like Hollywood once again took a beautiful body of culture

554
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: and turned it into a white thing. You know, they

555
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: took something from us, like and and that's how I felt.

556
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: So you're, oh, I see what you're saying. So you're

557
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: wondering now if if he was Dominican, if you would

558
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: have looked up to him as much. Yeah, I would

559
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: have looked up to myself more. I think as a

560
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: little kid, I didn't like myself. I wanted to be

561
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: on TV, right, I wanted to be an actor. That's

562
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: why that John Yis I'm a moment is so important

563
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: because all I saw was whiteness portrayed as the best. Yeah,

564
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: and what if the most successful franchise in the history

565
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: of the world was a body of color instead of

566
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: some white British too. Well, how do you feel now

567
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: that we live in a world where black culture has

568
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: been like rob tenfold? Like when I look at the Kardashians,

569
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: like no disrespects to those women, like more power to

570
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: the power that they have or whatever. But I feel

571
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: like there was so much they they took some of

572
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: the attributes of a black woman and then they put

573
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: it on if you if you really break it down,

574
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: it's a light skinned girl, right, And it's like the

575
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: black girls are walking around with these bodies for ages.

576
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: Now every now done wrong. I don't go far in

577
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: l A without seeing like a fake version of the model.

578
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: And it's very hard now to tell which is faking

579
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: which is real anymore. But it's crazy that the Kardashians

580
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: got so big off of like, you know, the lip

581
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: injections and the butt injections and the boo you know, boobs, boobs.

582
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: You know, that's been out for a while, but like

583
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: it's almost like with the weaves, and it's just like

584
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: it's it's horrible because you look at black girls and

585
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: even the way black men or or other men view women.

586
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: It's just like if you're light skinned, it's better. But

587
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: it's like, but these are all the attributes of black women.

588
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: It's just that's why I use the term bodies of culture,

589
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: not bodies of color, because I don't think whiteness is

590
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: trying to take our color, is trying to take our culture.

591
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: They're trying to take anything that they can make money

592
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: off of, and so they take our they take our bodies. Yeah,

593
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: they take our aesthetics, you know, they try to take anything.

594
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: They take our our yoga, they take our you know,

595
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: our philosophies, and if they can make money off of

596
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: it and package it, that's what they want. Do you

597
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: think it's because like, why do you think that we

598
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: have such a huge impact on white people? I mean,

599
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: that's essentially what it is. Actually, that was the first

600
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: time I've ever said that, But like seriously, like, yeah, Africa,

601
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: it's crazy because they tried to kill off and abused

602
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: the very people that they essentially like look up to.

603
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: Don't you think we've been around longer? Like we've been

604
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: around longer. Uh, Whiteness early on became threatened by the

605
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: black body. Very early on. Whiteness did a lot of

606
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: things too. When you're chill, you don't do a lot

607
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: of planning, You don't think anything is coming after you.

608
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: When you feel threatened, you start to galvanize people. You know,

609
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: look at January six, look at politics right now, the

610
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: white people in general right now. Feeling threatened like that

611
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: feeling of being threatened makes some sort of anger and

612
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: rage and action happen. And so early on in history,

613
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: way before you and I are here, and before our

614
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: parents and parents and parents, white people feel threatened by

615
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: by the black body, and so they make up so

616
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: many systems and ways to take advantage of the black

617
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean literally yeah, and also to humanize us, which

618
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: as the worst I think the one of the worst things.

619
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: And as I got older, so one of the things

620
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: I learned about being Jewish is Jewish Um. Jews have

621
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: something called the birthright. Are you familiar with it? As

622
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: you know where you go today? No? I I went

623
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: to Israel, but I didn't. I ended up on a

624
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: plane with birthright the group before. But I had the opportunity,

625
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: and I was young, and I was like culture, who

626
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: gives a crap about culture? Um? But then obviously it

627
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: was like a little too late by the time I

628
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: wanted to do it, but I ended up going to Israel.

629
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: But for all of you that don't know about birthright,

630
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: it's essentially like, as a Jewish person, you can fly

631
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: to Israel for like fourteen days fully paid. Is it

632
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: for free? You get to learn everything about your culture,

633
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: your history. And I think what makes Jewish people the

634
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: most resilient, powerful, one of the most powerful races uh

635
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: the world, is because how tied to keeping their culture

636
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: in their history alive. And I feel like when it

637
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 1: comes to black people are struggle to find out who

638
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: we were originally before we were robbed and brainwashed and

639
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: raped and whatever. You know, it's like we don't have

640
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: it and we try our hardest to piece together who

641
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: we were. But the world that the media, the the

642
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: world has positioned us and dehumanize us so much to

643
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: the point where it's like we're lost. We're just lost,

644
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: and we don't know what the right example is. You know.

645
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think that's changing. It's changing slowly.

646
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: You know when I look at broken homes, womanizing, and

647
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: the stuff that breaks my heart nowadays and I'm a

648
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: woman is the womanizing. It's like the I feel like

649
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: women the older I get we're slowly becoming like second rate.

650
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: Well we probably have been a long time, but I

651
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: feel like we're we're becoming less and less less valuable. Interesting,

652
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: you feel that now we're more accomplished, but we're still

653
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: not getting the respect. I mean, I can I can

654
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: agree with that because the numbers are there, like we

655
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: and look at all the abortions right like, we're still

656
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: like yesterday, I was in an event the woman that

657
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: runs the third largest budget in the world, which is

658
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: the state of California. She's a black woman, young girl young.

659
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: I think it's like Malia Cohen, y'all shout out to her.

660
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: I would love to get on, but it's just like

661
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: seeing her, it's like, dang, you're so powerful, You're soul powerful,

662
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, Like I would say, damn, Like that's the

663
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: type of person I would love to be, Like, you know,

664
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: the woman in a suit or or whatever. But I

665
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: know that there's men out there or you know, whoever

666
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: out there that's never gonna look at her the way

667
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: I look at her, because like we're just dehumanized. Like

668
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: we can cook, we can clean, we could be well rounded,

669
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: we could damn all be perfect, but we can't seem

670
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: to get that full round of respect in the world.

671
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: And it just sucks. I don't yes, I mean, you're like,

672
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm not a woman. I don't know what the heck

673
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: that's I can only get you and say, I hope it.

674
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if it happens in our lifetime. I

675
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: do believe I have both hope and and and no hope.

676
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: Like uh. At the same time, when you were talking

677
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: about James Bond, one of the things you said was like,

678
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, as a kid, he had all these women

679
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's it just sucks because it's

680
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: like I get it, but I don't get it. I

681
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: just don't get like the fascination of like, yeah, I mean,

682
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: don't be wrong, I'm attracted to those swagger puppies. Let

683
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: us swagger puppy come up in here. I'm like, girl,

684
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: you'll never save. But like you know, I'm getting older

685
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: and wise and I just value different things now. But

686
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: I really ish that the media and the powers that

687
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: be took more responsibility and humanizing. That's what it is.

688
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: It's the image that is sold to young boys forever. Yeah,

689
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: especially when they're young, Like it is sold to be

690
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: to be this, to be that kind of person. Uh,

691
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: and young boys fall into this really hard. I know

692
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: the porn industry doesn't help with that. I know so

693
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: many things don't help with the storytelling that we give

694
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: to young boys. Well, and then if you're one of

695
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: those young boys that are fortunate enough to have a

696
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: great dad or a dad that's in your life, well, no,

697
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: a great dad. Let's let's be honest, A great dad matters,

698
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: not just a dad. But you know, if you're one

699
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: of the ones that you know, you're the seed that

700
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: fell on good soil, you know. But if you're the

701
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: one that didn't, and your only option is the TV

702
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: or the radio, it's going to be a rough road ahead,

703
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of damage. Win be lining

704
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: up to get swung at essentially, you know, because that's

705
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: what happens, and you become a product of your environment.

706
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: And women do too though, of that TV, that that

707
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: information out there is being sold to every So I

708
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: can't go nowhere. If I go on Instagram, I'll be like, yo,

709
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm beautiful. I look at me. I'm beautiful. I got

710
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: Astagram like, well, yeah, look at that girl. So I'll

711
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: be like, that's a filter, be like, I don't know,

712
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: it's pretty good to me. That Instagram is dangerous as hell. Yeah,

713
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: it's just constantly telling people that where you are is

714
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: not enough. That's the more important part of Brown Enough.

715
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: Whether it's the book of the podcast, it's the word enough.

716
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: Like this, everything in this life is trying to tell

717
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: you you are not enough. You need to do this,

718
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: You need to buy this, you know, workshop, or drink

719
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: this green juice or get these pills like you know,

720
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: or get this botox or you name it. You are

721
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: not enough. You got to do something, and so I'm

722
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: hoping to create art and spaces of belonging. That's say,

723
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: you are enough just as you are, regardless of brown, black,

724
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: white juice. Like you are enough just as you are

725
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 1: right here, right now, and that if more people walk

726
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: through the world taking up that space, I do think

727
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: some powerful change would take place in workplaces amongst women,

728
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: amongst men, yeah, amongst boys. Where you are it's you know,

729
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: you you're not just an actor. You're an actor with

730
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: a mission. Where do you see yourself going when it

731
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: comes to acting? Because I feel like your mission seems

732
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: more important. Well, I don't want to say more important,

733
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: but it definitely seems like you're well invested in it. Yeah,

734
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: So I think I think both can happen. Meaning I

735
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: do think it is important. I've been very fortunate to

736
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: be on television. And it is also important to see yourself,

737
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: Like when a little kid sees me and they're like tight, okay,

738
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: it gives them some armor, right, even in the smallest way.

739
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: Look at the beautifulness within New Black Panther. Right, have

740
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: you seen that movie? By Yeah, don't spoil it, don't

741
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: spoil you've seen it tonight. I can't spoil it. It's

742
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: like you already say Queens is bad and and so

743
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: what I'm hoping to do is to create content. What

744
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to do and I am doing, is creating

745
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: content that I can act in that tells a different story.

746
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm just out here trying to put us on

747
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: blasting ways where we're not extraordinary. We're just it's just us. Yeah,

748
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: it's just us and being us like when Harry met Sally,

749
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: but you know, starting to brown people. Yeah, well I

750
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: do want to. I know you and I will we

751
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: get in a room. I'm starting to see we we

752
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: we definitely go very wide. But I would like to

753
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: I would like to ask you, like, when did you

754
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: realize you had arrived in acting? I mean, that's it,

755
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: like that pivotal moment where you're like, yo, Pops it,

756
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: what's up? Yes, what I did. That's a tough one

757
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: because it's twofold with Pops. I always told my pops,

758
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: your Pops. I ain't trying to be Brad Pitt. I'm

759
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: just trying to like pay my rent and play ball

760
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: whenever I want. That's what I told him I wanted

761
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: from acting. That kind of evolves you know like I

762
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: hit that because I remember I remember pulling up to

763
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: the court. I used to play with the same like

764
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: a group of guys, and I remember pulling up to

765
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: the court and my Pops called me and he said,

766
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And I said, you're about to

767
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: play ball? Like I'll call you back, because that was

768
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: my dad's joke always when I would call him when

769
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: I was a kid. I would call him. I said,

770
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: what are you doing? He said, I'm playing basketball. Do

771
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: you think I'm doing I'm working? Yeah, yo. I would

772
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: love to me tell Pops. You know, fast forward, I

773
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: pulled up to the court. He calls me, what are

774
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: you doing. I'm about to play ball? Call you back

775
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: and he starts to cry and he says, you did it.

776
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: You actually did it, so I know, I know I

777
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: accomplished that one. I do think you were having all

778
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: these tearjerker moments like I do think there is the

779
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: next level now because we get to evolve and take

780
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: on bigger challenges. And yet I have I have a

781
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: problem with your question because it you know, like when

782
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: Lebron James won his last championship, he yelled into the microphone,

783
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 1: put some respect on my name. Bro, they got statues

784
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: of you, like you are a billionaire. Put some respect

785
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: on my neck. Problem, problem, that's not enough, Like put

786
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: some respect and and I had a moment where I

787
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: was like, that's exhausting. Oh I must, I must sucking

788
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: away slash. I recognize it so much because I know

789
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: the mornings when I wake up, I'm in my whip

790
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: and I'm like, put some respect on my name. And

791
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't like that feeling, you know why, because I

792
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: don't think it ever ends. Well, I have not even

793
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: when the ego I win the Grammy, I'll do this,

794
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: and like I think somehow I'll still have that feeling

795
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: put some respect on my name. And when you say

796
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: put some respect on your name, mean and like you

797
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: keep moving the needle for you keep I gotta keep

798
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: doing stuff I noticed doing this show. Every person that

799
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: I have interviewed pretty much says and I think it's

800
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: just it's just the faith gets so strong after accomplishing

801
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: things that the goal just keeps getting higher and higher

802
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: and higher. But I would say, like we've done almost

803
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: for forties five episodes, and I will say, like, for sure,

804
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: one thing that everyone on this show has in common

805
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 1: is that the goal post keeps getting moved back. Okay,

806
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 1: I love that so much, he said. The faith gets stronger,

807
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: gets stronger, the goal just gets higher and higher, because

808
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: once you start to have that confidence, it's just like,

809
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: what's next, Sign me up, let's do it. Um. There

810
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: have been times where I've failed and it goes in

811
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: the opposite direction. When have you failed and it has

812
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: kind of swung in the opposite direction. The pandemic was

813
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: hard for me because I had booked my first series regular.

814
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: I had a tour of my one man show planned

815
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: for eleven different cities. I was about to go from

816
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: my rice and being days to like most money I

817
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: haven't made in my life. And I remember that Wednesday

818
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: and the Wednesday they said, you know, the play is

819
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: canceled at this location. I said, that's fine, I'm doing

820
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: TV show, yes, whatever, couple and then uh, TV shows

821
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: like we gotta hold back a week to the table

822
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: read Was this before the NBA took any Was this

823
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: before the NBA took an me? Because that's when I

824
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: realized the end of the world was coming. When the

825
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: NBA was like, yeah, remember that game, I remember that.

826
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: I don't know it's it's it's in that window like

827
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: two days where everyone's life started. Yeah, and oh and

828
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: uh so the TV shows like all right, we gotta wait,

829
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: and then two weeks go by. You remember when we

830
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: thought it would be two weeks to be like calling

831
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: you in two weeks and then they were like, oh,

832
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: we'll checking in July, we'll checking in August, and um,

833
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: she'll never got made, you know, like I was, I

834
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: was an unemployment and I was at least unemployment was

835
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: being fruitful. There was a lot of people like I

836
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: don't get on employment today for real. Uh yeah, amen? Uh?

837
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: And and that was I've had many I mean, like

838
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: I said, I lived in my car at some point,

839
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: Like I've had many downs, and yet the faith always remained.

840
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: And I was broken during this pandemic, like I got

841
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: I worked so hard just to get that thing that

842
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: series regularly that and uh and I lost it, you know,

843
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: like but so many people lost, so many things, including

844
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: loved ones. And you know, my meditation teacher always says,

845
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 1: we're never more selfish than when things aren't going our way.

846
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: And and things weren't going my way, and I was

847
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: feeling selfish and broken, and I went home to Miami

848
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: for a long time. I hung out with my parents.

849
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: They they built me back up. Piece piece, my mom's food,

850
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: my dad's love. M they built me up. They restored

851
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: my faith. I'm not gonna lie. I've never wanted to

852
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: meet someone's parents for my right. Doesn't want to meet you,

853
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: just want to meet him and hug them. They're good people. Um,

854
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: they're great people. So what do you do when well,

855
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: I guess you. You went back home and you got rebuilt.

856
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: I got rebuilt, came you know, came back to l A.

857
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: Pandemics for the change, I booked a role, turned into

858
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: a series regularly, the irony shot on the same stage

859
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: as where the show I built was gonna shoot stage

860
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: and Warner Brothers, and you were financially recovered obviously, right yeah,

861
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: I mean from that, and then the book the book

862
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: deal happened. You know, all this happened at the same

863
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: time the series regular, the book deal and the two

864
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: podcasts deal, like all happened in a year when you

865
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: came back to l A. And you did you when

866
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: you were coming back, did you know that any of

867
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: that was gonna happen? So you would come back like

868
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: rehabilitated but also scared a little bit broken. I really

869
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: thought it was broken. Yeah, it's funny you said that

870
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: line about when things aren't going your way, you get

871
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: the most selfish, because, um, when the pandemic it happened

872
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: my business. I had an events company. It was doing

873
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: extremely well. I was like making good money. I was confident.

874
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, events is taking over. This was

875
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: the best you know. I had my business for like

876
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: ten years, but events were just doing phenomenal. And then

877
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: I was in Lake Tahole doing an event and I

878
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: was glued to my phone, which I usually i'm not,

879
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: but I was just like, please, God, don't let the NBA.

880
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: Don't let them take a break, because the rest of

881
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: the world's gonna follow. And all my clients were like, Colleen,

882
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: there's a thing called COVID and corona and uh, you

883
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: know they're saying it's serious. Do you think we should

884
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: cancel all events? And I'm a consultant, I'm like, uh,

885
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: the Budweiser flu come on, it's cold, Like, don't worry.

886
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: And I was literally like on conference calls after conference calls.

887
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: Banks were calling me. Um, everybody's sponsors were calling me,

888
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: what do you think is going on? What is your

889
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: opinion on this, and I was just like, I really

890
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: didn't know, but I was just like, this has to

891
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: be like the worst media's frenzy of all time. But

892
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: I just was please because the NBA was like figuring

893
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: it out. And I was like, if the NBA publicly

894
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: says they are not doing this game, it's done. And

895
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: I sat there by the phone and when the NBA

896
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: announced it, I promised you. I was sitting at a

897
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: table sending people and I just was like, oh, it's

898
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: over the next day. Cancelation, cancelation, cancelation. Most of my clients, um,

899
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: we're with me for years. I never charged. I stopped

900
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: charging deposits. It was like they're good for it. Or

901
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: I was out of money, fashioning a blink and um.

902
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: And at the time I had worked so hard because

903
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: I was trying to buy another house. I was like, yo,

904
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: I cannot lose my business because you know, the banks

905
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: will be like you have to start all over. It's

906
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: so hard to get alone as an entrepreneur. I was like, yo,

907
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: So I kept my business on like barely life support,

908
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: like and I was like, please, God, don't let me

909
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: have to go through my savings, like you know, I

910
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: was in sheer panic. My parents are super poor, so

911
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: it's like there's no rehabilitation center. No. I mean, I

912
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: appreciate yours, but it was like, yo, it's just we

913
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: welcome to the ten candids, Like it's just you're done,

914
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, And and uh PPP came out and all

915
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: these first it didn't look like they were catering into

916
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: small businesses. I was like and share, like what was me?

917
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: And every time I got on the phone with someone,

918
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: they'd be like everyone's going through And BE like, I

919
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: get it, everyone's going through it, but I'm really going

920
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: through it. And he'd be like, yeah, but Colleen, the

921
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: whole world shut down and be like, yeah, I get it,

922
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: but yeah. And every time someone will point out the

923
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: whole world was going through it, I would say, yeah,

924
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: but you don't understand. It's me, you know, and you're right,

925
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: you know. Um. But then I ended up um you know, creativity,

926
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: Like I was so bored. I started dating. I Uh,

927
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: I made a baby, like I did murals, I created

928
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: like like, oh man, it's crazy because when you think

929
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: about the pandemic, we're out of it. But it was

930
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: literally two years, you know, and I did so much

931
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: in two years. Just you know, I also got a job.

932
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: I called the startup that had been wanting to be

933
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: to work with them. I was like Kanye West when

934
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,479
Speaker 1: he like, uh lost the deal his record, the Fresh Record,

935
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: he was like, is that deal still on the table.

936
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: I immediately called them like do you still want to

937
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: hire me? And they're like hell yeah, And I was

938
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: like done. And that's how I got through without training

939
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: my savings um and then I was like, I have

940
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: insurance and I ended up. I was like, oh, while

941
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: I have insurance, I was probably have a kid and

942
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: really make it work. You know. But if it wasn't

943
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: for the pandemic, Like, you know, it's funny. The pandemic

944
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: was like the greatest thing that ever happened to humanity

945
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: in the sense that you know, when I moved to

946
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: l A, you know, if you want, if I wanted

947
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: to hang out with you, it'd be like, let's go

948
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: out to drink, let's go out to eat. It was

949
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: during the pandemic was great. It was like my high

950
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: school days where you go over to your home girl's

951
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 1: house and you kick it and yeah, like it was amazing,

952
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 1: Like people didn't like, you didn't have to have money

953
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: to kick it with your friends and you didn't care

954
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: what anybody did. It would be like, Hi, how are

955
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: you doing? What are you doing to survive? Like you know,

956
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: it was never like what are you doing for work?

957
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: And people were so vulnerable. It was like the most

958
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: human people had ever been and I loved it. I've

959
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 1: been reading a lot of articles about people being like, hey,

960
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: when does a kind of that version of life come

961
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: back where I'm less stressed and like panicky? What am

962
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: I going to do it? Because at some point we

963
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: all just kind of were like, this is yeah, this

964
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: is it, this is what I'm in right now. Now.

965
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: Did you ever think when they had did the mask mandate? Um,

966
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: did you ever think about robbing anybody when they did

967
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 1: the mask mandate? Did you ever at least think about

968
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: it once? I'm sure because I promised you when the

969
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: mask mandate came out, I said, wait a minute, I

970
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: could go into a store with a mask on and

971
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: am I literally the only sick person in the world.

972
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like everybody thought it right right, Like

973
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: it was like you legit. I was like, you want

974
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: me to know, you want me to go into the

975
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: bank and be broke? Okay, like I wasn't right. It's everybody,

976
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: so you thought it. I don't know if I thought

977
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: it in the bank, but I think I often thought

978
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: like we all covered up right now, especially I'll put

979
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: some shades on. I don't exist, yo. And there were

980
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: some people walking around with shades and mask. It was

981
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: just like, yo, we're really doing this best thing for celebrities.

982
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: It was the best. They were like yeah, and then

983
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: people people let me tell you the people that really,

984
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: let me tell you, the most gangster entrepreneurs appeared at

985
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: the pandemic. You're not really a gangster entrepreneur unless you

986
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: were one of those entrepreneurs that started selling masks immediately.

987
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean they were. They were in my neighborhood. I've

988
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: been like this block and like Hollywood, most Folice area.

989
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: That's they lined up. They had every style mask, Dodgers mask,

990
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: this mask, every team Lakers. Dude. There were people like

991
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: maybe three weeks in getting million dollar contracts for like masks.

992
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: Like there were people and weed was like at a

993
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: premium COVID testing. Anyone who picked up on that, let

994
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: me tell you, I don't even think those kind have

995
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: been even entrepreneurs. Those were like real hustlers. They were

996
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: just like, Oh, everybody's gonna want and get it, get

997
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: all the sugar. But but no, the pandemic was it

998
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: was a gift and a curse. Um. But like now

999
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: that we're in the real world, I do look back

1000
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: at it like probably one essentially, I mean, aside from

1001
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: the people that lost their lives, essentially, it was like

1002
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: probably one of the most human moments, even with the

1003
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter, Like it was the first time it

1004
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: was so successful. Everybody was home and there was no games.

1005
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: There was nothing to distract you from something that has

1006
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: been going on for years. It was going on for years,

1007
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: and it took that it's funny about basketball and no games.

1008
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: So I was I was about to make all this money,

1009
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: and so I went and bought some court side like

1010
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: nice seats. Dallas Mavericks l A Lakers canceled. What did

1011
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: you get your money back? Yeah, it's like a year

1012
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: and a half later from ticket man. They kept being

1013
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: like do you wanna were like, we'll give you more

1014
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: if you keep it here. That money as it is pleasing,

1015
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: thank you. I kept sending emails that were like we

1016
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: get it, we get it, we get it. Okay, I'm

1017
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: actually going to a basketball game tomorrow. Something spurs risk Clippers.

1018
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: Oh you're not impressed. I could tell no, you were impressed.

1019
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: You were in president. Okay, I was impressed with take

1020
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: your shot. Your shot. Well, um, thank you so much

1021
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: for hanging out with me. You were a breath of

1022
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: fresh air. Truly, and uh, this is amazing. Next time,

1023
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: don't don't come on this show without your pops and

1024
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: your mom. Bring him out. Let's go. If they come

1025
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: to town, like mama cook, let me tell you she

1026
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: taught you how to make that egg. She taught you

1027
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: how to make that I be honest, the egg thing

1028
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: is a self taught kind of Look, guys, if you

1029
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: ever get a chance to come across Chris reab Us,

1030
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to say right now, find a way to

1031
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: have him make you an egg. This is the truth

1032
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: because you know me, guys, like you see me take

1033
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: one bite out of food. You know, when I like something,

1034
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: I brag about it. I try to do it at home.

1035
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: And I honestly did not believe in the such thing

1036
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: as a great egg. So this episode, and I'm gonna

1037
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: tell you what I saw him do before we close out.

1038
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: For all your listeners. He put a lot of butter

1039
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: in the pot. Difference, It's almost like when I may pancakes.

1040
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: I do a lot of butter in the pot too.

1041
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: And then he did crack the egg. Um, he did

1042
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: not touch it like he said. He also didn't flip

1043
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: his egg, which I wish I would have actually taken

1044
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: his advice. Um, but I will say that he was

1045
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: seasoning throughout. I saw him doing it, pouring the seasoning

1046
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: in his hand and sprinkling it on like dust. So um.

1047
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: He did the lorries, the salt and the pepper for

1048
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: all y'all. But it was the best egg, best rising

1049
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Speaker 1: beans combo. You clearly ate this a million times. Still

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