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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Catch John Batchelor weeknights from nine till midnight on sevent

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Speaker 3: It's The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We're taking

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Speaker 3: off the second hour of Playing Buck right now, and

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Speaker 3: we're about to talk about the allegations against Joe Biden,

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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, the Biden family, an FBI source, an FBI whistleblower,

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Speaker 3: and more. Representative Annapolina Luna of Florida is with us. Congresswoman,

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Speaker 3: appreciate you being here and thanks for making the time.

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Speaker 3: Tell us we haven't talked about this yet on the show,

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Speaker 3: so I need you to set this up for everybody

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Speaker 3: a little bit. What is going on with the House

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Speaker 3: looking into bribery allegations, the whistleblower and Biden.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's I don't know if we have

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Speaker 4: enough time but to kind of chalk it up in

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Speaker 4: a nutshell long story show or the House Oversight Committee

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Speaker 4: has been working to collect evidence to prove that this administration,

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Speaker 4: this family, and Joe Biden specifically has indeed been guilty

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Speaker 4: of public corruption. And we've found that we had recently

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Speaker 4: just a couple of weeks ago, subpoenaed bank records from

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Speaker 4: four different banks of about twenty that we suspect, where

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Speaker 4: we found that the Biden family was receiving money from

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Speaker 4: foreign nationals, basically using and selling the Biden name in

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Speaker 4: order to personally enrich themselves, and they moved these funds

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Speaker 4: between twenty companies. So that comes a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: and then this week, Representative Comber had requested a document

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Speaker 4: from the FBI that basically outlined and proved that Biden,

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Speaker 4: as Vice president in the Obama administration, had received a

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Speaker 4: five million dollar transfer from a foreign national and an

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Speaker 4: effort to sway American policy. And ultimately what ended up

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Speaker 4: happening is the SBI not only refused to hand over

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Speaker 4: this document it's not a classic document, but then they

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Speaker 4: also too said that their own source, who has been

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Speaker 4: a human source with the FBI for over ten years,

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Speaker 4: very credible. They've even paid this source over six figures

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Speaker 4: for the information that they have that they were and

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Speaker 4: they had credible fears that if this individual was unmasked

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Speaker 4: to Representative Comer and Oversight, that they had credible fears

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Speaker 4: that this person would be killed.

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Speaker 3: So the allegation. I mean, do we know any of

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Speaker 3: the specifics, Congresswoman, about what was there, what the quid

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Speaker 3: pro quo was. I mean, we you know, what level

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Speaker 3: this FBI source was alleging.

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Speaker 4: What we do know is that this individual has proof

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Speaker 4: that there's a five million dollar bank transaction that at

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Speaker 4: the time Vice President Biden received for his word to

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Speaker 4: influence American foreign policy. And what I can tell you

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Speaker 4: is that we've been trying very hard to get this

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Speaker 4: actually part of the reason why we are now tomorrow

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Speaker 4: meeting to work on the markup for the bill to

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Speaker 4: actually hold the director of the FBI in content of Congress.

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Speaker 3: Now, holding the FBI director and contempt wouldn't result in

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Speaker 3: any actual legal action against him because the DOJ is Biden, right,

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Speaker 3: So that's not really going to change anything. Why isn't

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Speaker 3: the FBI sharing information with Congress on an overside committee.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I remember from back in the CIA days,

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Speaker 4: That's a question that we're all asking and in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: Buck just based on what I've witnessed, what I've heard,

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Speaker 4: I mean, they have a goal right now that's currently

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Speaker 4: leaking information to Hunter Biden about his own case that

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Speaker 4: the point now where, you know, the Republican Party, although

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Speaker 4: we don't control Senate or the White House, we do

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Speaker 4: some peece behind a lot of what's happening, because exactly

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Speaker 4: like you had mentioned, you know, these three letter agencies

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Speaker 4: We need to be subpoenaing all this information, and so

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Speaker 4: Representative Comer has been doing a good job on with

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Speaker 4: But right now, I mean, the more information that we

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Speaker 3: Speaking to Congressoman Ana Paulina Luna of Florida and Congressoman

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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, Clay and I talked about this a lot.

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Speaker 3: He still thinks that they may drop real charges, not

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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden based on what you're seeing, the information that

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Speaker 3: how could there not be unless the system is corrupt?

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Speaker 3: I think that's the question A lot of people are

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Speaker 3: asking him. If you get paid millions of dollars you

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Speaker 4: It is a big problem, and I don't think that

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Speaker 4: we will have any charges brought until you know, we

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Speaker 4: have a new Republican president. And unfortunately, that's what it's

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Speaker 4: coming down to. Because many of these people that are

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Speaker 4: had stated, I mean, there's so much information on Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 4: had this information about Joe Biden, and they've had had

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Speaker 4: So they have the evidence, they have the testimony of

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Speaker 4: people that are bringing it forward of not just the

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Speaker 4: human source, but there's multiple whistleblowers that have come forward

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Speaker 4: it's really interesting because one of our best whistle blowers

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Speaker 4: was receiving illegal basically pay for play schemes, the dj

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Speaker 4: even though he's never sold or tried to broker any

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Speaker 4: in my opinion, using their position to not just intimidate,

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Speaker 3: How do we get any accountability in the FBI? If

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Speaker 3: people ask me this question, Congresswoman, and they'll ask, usually

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Speaker 3: But you'd also have to get rid of a lot

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Speaker 3: I remember when Eric Holder was held in contempt when

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Speaker 4: Christ I think that it really depends on who the

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Speaker 4: and help end some of this corruption. I exactly like

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Speaker 4: you'd stated, you know, I think people in general, I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm frustrated. I know people are as well, because it's like, well,

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Speaker 4: we know this is happening, but like, what's going to change?

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Speaker 4: And it's kind of, you know, it feels like sometimes

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think it's gonna really depends on

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Speaker 4: like you had stated, cutting funding is a huge deal,

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Speaker 4: and yet it didn't seem like there was as aggressive

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Speaker 4: You do have a voice, and your representatives will respond,

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Speaker 4: especially if people are calling in, you know, But also too,

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Speaker 4: it does depend on leadership, and that's why I think

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Speaker 3: What do you think is the most important issue or too,

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Speaker 3: that the Republican Congress under Speaker McCarthy's leadership can realistically

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Speaker 4: Well, I thought the first one was everything with the

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Speaker 4: I think it's really going to be using these hearings

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Speaker 3: Florida Representative Anna Paulina Luda, Congresswoman, thanks for being with us. Appreciated.

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Speaker 3: I always want to call her Anna, but you know, Congresswoman,

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Speaker 3: thank you, thank you very much. So here here we go.

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Speaker 3: We have more information about the Biden crime family, but

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Speaker 3: to say, oh, yeah, everything's gonna be fine. You know,

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Speaker 3: the three letter agencies there, they've learned their lesson. They

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Speaker 3: haven't learned their lesson, they haven't changed. All they thought

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Speaker 3: we've got proof of life on that one. Right, we

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Speaker 3: This is my guest. I could I could be off.

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Speaker 3: Pence is just not the guy for the moment, and

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Speaker 3: so him running, you know, you think it's going to

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Speaker 3: and I want to know. But back to CNN in

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Speaker 3: the fake news controversy from the very beginning, so they

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Speaker 3: were saying fake news. Trump turned it around on them,

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Speaker 3: and he really forced a journalistic self immolation over at CNN.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they just did they They lit their own

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Speaker 3: building on fire. They destroyed it as a as a temple,

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Speaker 3: as a monolith of supposed journalism. CNN was gone. It

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Speaker 3: turned into remember Jim Acosta and although oh he wasn't.

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Speaker 3: which a lot of people don't have access to. But

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Speaker 3: you know the whole thing, right, And and you saw

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Speaker 3: all these different hosts who were supposedly giving you the news,

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Speaker 3: who were really just boring opinion hosts reading off a

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Speaker 3: prompter who don't have much to say other than Trump

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Speaker 3: is Hitler. Well that in the post Trump era predictably

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Speaker 3: resulted in the professional defenestration of a number of senior

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Speaker 3: CNN figures. No most don't bleek Jeff Zucker and then

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Speaker 3: Chris Cuomo. Bro Cuomo was like, hey, like, what do

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Speaker 3: you mean I can't advise my brother. No, not when

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Speaker 3: audience about it. That that could be kind of an issue.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Defenestration want to go with that as word

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Speaker 3: of the day, crazy historical fact defenestration of Prague. You

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Speaker 3: Someone could fact check me on that one. But the

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Speaker 3: guys who were defenestrated, which then led to massive warfare

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Speaker 3: throughout Europe. But they lived that even though they were

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Speaker 3: thrown out the window. So CNN had this whole problem,

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Speaker 3: and it was because Trump broke them. I mean, he

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Speaker 3: I think beyond dispute at this point, because to go

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Speaker 3: see as abject partisan hacks. Okay, that is CNN destruction

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Speaker 3: number one. CNN then tried to limp along and do

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Speaker 3: a redo with this guy, Chris licked the big piece

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Speaker 3: If you want to know what they read or pretend

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Speaker 3: the Atlantic. But I did read the Atlantic, so I'm

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Speaker 3: admitting that to all of you. So I could read

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Speaker 3: destruction two point zero was you guessed it, Trump's town hall,

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Speaker 3: the Trump town Hall. They just lost their minds over there,

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Speaker 3: you had all these pro Trump people in the audience

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Speaker 3: and Caitlyn Collins get steamrolled the whole thing, and so

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Speaker 3: much so that he Chris licked this guy who came

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Speaker 5: Whatever?

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Speaker 3: That is, right, Stephen Colbert Show. And then he moved

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Speaker 3: than a year. This is why he didn't last though

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Speaker 3: this I don't know. I don't know this guy never.

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Speaker 3: was like, you're just getting You're just getting punched in

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Speaker 3: So that's I turned down a job at CNN without

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Speaker 3: They wanted me to stay around, and I said no,

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Speaker 3: I'd rather just do my own thing, thank you. Because

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Speaker 3: I was pro Trump. I voted for him. I was

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to go on CNN so

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Speaker 3: they can be like, so like explain to us, like

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Speaker 3: He said, apparently to CNN staff, do not virtue signal,

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Speaker 3: Terry in Texas, Terry, you like Pence? Tell me about it,

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Speaker 3: hy bug.

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Speaker 7: I love Mike Pence. I think he's a great stand

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Speaker 7: up Christian man with good morals. But I have a

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Speaker 7: lot of Republican friends that are leading Democrat because of

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Speaker 3: So you you like Pence a lot, but you think

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Speaker 3: because he's too pro life effectively, he's politically not not

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Speaker 3: able to win. Is that? Is that what you're what

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Speaker 3: you're feeling?

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Speaker 7: I think right now because all this just happened and

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Speaker 7: just came down recently. Yeah, it's not a good time, gotcha.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you? You know, Terry, I would tell you

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Speaker 3: to listen to. I spoke to Lyla Rose, who is

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Speaker 3: the media wants you to believe. I do think it's

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Speaker 3: you got to go place by place, state by state,

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Speaker 3: look at the numbers, and it's on the issue of

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Speaker 3: on the issue of the Thank you for calling in terry.

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Speaker 3: On the issue of morality, I don't think it's complicated

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Speaker 3: at all. I think it's clear that you want to

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Speaker 3: save as many babies as as possible on the issue

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Speaker 3: of what can win, just the pure politics of it.

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Speaker 3: I hear smart people on both sides that have differing

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Speaker 3: differing views. On the right I'm talking at obviously on

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Speaker 3: the left, it's abortion, all nine months of a pregnancy abortion.

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Speaker 3: You know they they take it to the absolute extreme.

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Speaker 3: And that's a position of the Democrat Party, is it.

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Speaker 3: Nyla in San Antonio? Did I get that right?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 3: You did, Nila. What have you got for us about

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Speaker 5: Well, I would vote for him simply because of what

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Speaker 5: morality isn't just whether you're pro abortion or not. It's

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Speaker 5: whether you lie, whether your word is good. And as

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Speaker 5: good as Trump was for the country, he's got the

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Speaker 5: morals of a gutter snip. I just which we had

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Speaker 3: In Nyla, thank you so much for sharing that. I

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Speaker 3: don't know him. Beyond that, I mean, I've spent time

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Speaker 3: I spent a fair amount of time with him over

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Speaker 3: the years. I really haven't spent my time with Pence

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Speaker 3: everything that he has done, though in my personal interactions

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Speaker 3: with him would support that he seems to be a

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Speaker 3: very decent man. So now does that mean that he's

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Speaker 3: the guy for this moment? I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: somebody who's taking a scalpel to the problem. And this

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Speaker 3: appreciate I should say that people called in and had

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Speaker 3: feels like it's a week. The crime situation in New York,

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Speaker 3: car maker. Let's talk about that on some other criminal

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