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Speaker 1: a half million people in a very short window of time,

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Speaker 1: and that's just an impossible situation to do. There's not

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Speaker 1: there's not anywhere near enough infrastructure in place there or

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Speaker 1: road network capacity to move that high volume of people,

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Speaker 1: even if you had the resources from an economic perspective

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Speaker 1: to move those folks and the movement to another environment.

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Speaker 1: So that's just an impossible situation. I think what we

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Speaker 1: have to start to look at is we have to

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Speaker 1: start to look at things like how we do planning

439
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Speaker 1: and development in in our country and how we put

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Speaker 1: folks in in harm's way by allowing development to occur

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Speaker 1: relatively unchecked from the response of from the perspective of

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Speaker 1: economics and economic development and some of the contestation or

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Speaker 1: challenges that emergency management then has to faith in order

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Speaker 1: to solve those issues those problems. So so if I

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Speaker 1: was given a grade, uh, that's the highest grade I

446
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Speaker 1: could give here would be an a minus to emergency

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Speaker 1: management because no one gets an A when there's loss

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Speaker 1: of life involved. And that's a primary sort of objective

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Speaker 1: for emergency management is to prevent loss of life and

450
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Speaker 1: unfortunately they weren't successful there. They're doing a reasonably good

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Speaker 1: job though in an incredibly different, difficult situation, particularly when

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Speaker 1: you when you understand that the share definition of a

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Speaker 1: disaster is an event that overwhelms the capacity to deal

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Speaker 1: with that and so definitely a catastrophic situation on the

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Speaker 1: on the surface though, there appears to be a reasonably

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Speaker 1: good job being done by emergency management there, but we'll

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Speaker 1: be unfolding and unpacking that, uh, their performance and what

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Speaker 1: Houston has done in this for years to come. We're

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Speaker 1: speaking to Dr. Jim Fraser. He's faculty directing faculty director

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Speaker 1: of the Emergency and Disaster Management Program at Georgetown University.

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Speaker 1: Dr Fraser. The declaration of it as a federal emergency,

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Speaker 1: the response from the federal government, how how much does

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Speaker 1: that help and what kind of help do they provide? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, quite honestly, most of the federal government's primary

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Speaker 1: responsibility is just resources and marshaling resources in terms of money.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the recovery efforts are handled locally and

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Speaker 1: so certainly from the perspective of the local government. In

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Speaker 1: order to handle recovery when when it's over, when it's

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Speaker 1: overwhelming in this case. UH, money are resources from the

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Speaker 1: federal government are are great, But then there's also the

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Speaker 1: support that that typically comes from neighboring communities and neighboring states,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's in terms of human capital, and that's

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Speaker 1: that's highly valuable as well. I've seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: reporting already Dr Frasier on UH, the Cajun Navy, which

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Speaker 1: is a more organized effort, but just everyone who can

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Speaker 1: and and and is able getting there to try and

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Speaker 1: pluck people out of the water or pull them out

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Speaker 1: of their homes as the as the waters are rising

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Speaker 1: by using whatever craft are available. Authorities are very thankful

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Speaker 1: for those efforts, right, I mean, civilians that are getting

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Speaker 1: in their boats and stuff is also a key part

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Speaker 1: of this. They are, but it's a mixed bag. And

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Speaker 1: if you remember from the flooding we had in in

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Speaker 1: Baton Rouge, UH previous to this, the Cajun Navy always

485
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Speaker 1: is very good to respond, so very sort of volunteerism

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Speaker 1: is really strong and that part of the country and

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Speaker 1: people in the US tend to do a really nice

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Speaker 1: job responding to natural azzors and disasters from a volunteer perspective.

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Speaker 1: But there's also the complication of having people in the

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Speaker 1: community that are that are eager and willing to help,

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Speaker 1: and how that also complicates emergency disaster management's job to

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Speaker 1: make sure that people are there to help are actually

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Speaker 1: helping in ways that are actually helpful. If you if

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Speaker 1: you don't mind me saying it from that perspective, all right,

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Speaker 1: Dr Tim Frasier of George Town Universities Emergency and Disaster

496
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Speaker 1: Men your program. We appreciate you joining to lend your expertise, sir,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir for everybody listening. If you want to

498
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Speaker 1: help in some way, I Heart Radio is teaming up

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Speaker 1: with the Red Cross to help in Texas, to help

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Speaker 1: our brothers and sisters in Texas here after this devastating flood.

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Speaker 1: You can go to red Cross dot org or give

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Speaker 1: ten dollars by texting Harvey h A H A r

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Speaker 1: V E Y Harvey to nine zero nine nine. That's

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Speaker 1: Red Cross dot org to give. Or you can give

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Speaker 1: ten dollars by texting Harvey to nine zero nine nine nine.

506
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Speaker 1: And everything you can do to help is of course

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Speaker 1: uh needed and appreciated. The leaders of the coast of

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Speaker 1: the Great State of Texas responded to this horrific hurricane.

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Speaker 1: Is it measurable? Courageous and heroic Governor Abbot of Texas

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Speaker 1: on the response here from emergency personnel, law enforcement, other

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Speaker 1: first responders out there, and also civilians who have thrown

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Speaker 1: themselves into this effort to save Houstonians and everyone in

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Speaker 1: Texas affected by this terrible flooding. Uh, let's take some calls.

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Speaker 1: Her lines are lit here in the Freedom Hunt. I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of you have much to say, many

516
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Speaker 1: thoughts on this. Ashley in Louisiana on the I heart

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Speaker 1: app Hey Ashley, Hey Buck show Tie. I think thanks,

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Speaker 1: I think you're great. Thank you. I just wanted to add,

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Speaker 1: and it's not a new perspective at all, but we're here,

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Speaker 1: only a few hours away from Louisiana, and as soon

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Speaker 1: as the call was put out for boats, my husband

522
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: and brother in law are down there with their boats

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Speaker 1: with the Harris County Fire Department. Now, we are white,

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Speaker 1: conservative Trump voters, so by definition we should be biggest

525
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: and hateful people, which in reality obviously not. But I

526
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Speaker 1: just hope that a tragic situation like this or just

527
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Speaker 1: magnify for all of us the humanity that we really

528
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Speaker 1: have between each other that wants the media and all

529
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: their toxic propaganda is renewed. There is still love and

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Speaker 1: human kind between all of us. Absolutely. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: tell your husband thanks from all of us listening here

532
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 1: that he's down there trying to help out the folks

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Speaker 1: in Texas. You said you're nearby and Louisiana, right or Louisiana, Yes, sir, No,

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Speaker 1: Louisiana exactly. I'm getting. I'm trying to work on my

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Speaker 1: pronunciation a little bit. I get is a national show

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Speaker 1: at any time. I've gotten rid of Oregon. I now

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Speaker 1: say Oregon. So I'm getting better. My and my my.

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00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: Louisville apparently is not bad. But Louisianna is a little

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Speaker 1: little beyond me right now. But I'm working on it.

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Speaker 1: But Ausiana, the easiest way to say anything is the

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Speaker 1: right way to say it, all right, I like it. Well, look, actually,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much to your husband. Thank him for

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Speaker 1: from all of us for what he's doing. Um, God

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Speaker 1: bless him and you for for all all your efforts

545
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Speaker 1: down there, and keep it surprised, let us know how

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Speaker 1: it goes. Yes, thank you Buck so much for what

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Speaker 1: you did. Thank you so much, appreciate it. Uh, let's

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Speaker 1: take Sue in North Carolina on w p T. I Hey, Sue, Yes, Hello, Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 1: it's very nice talking to you too. UM. With all

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Speaker 1: this concern and all this um disruption and terrible devastation

551
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: that happened with this hurricane, UM, my main concern is,

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Speaker 1: do you think anyone is considering maybe building a floodwall

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Speaker 1: for these sea level states, including Louisiana. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a question I think for the Army

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Speaker 1: Corps of Engineers. I'm not I'm not expert and say

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Speaker 1: I'm not expert enough as an overstatement. I mean I'm

557
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: or an understatement, I'm not somebody who understands much about

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Speaker 1: how to protect states or localities from rising floodwaters. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if a flood wall would be effectivef you'

560
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: or not something that can certainly look into and do

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Speaker 1: some research on. My understanding of how Houston functions is

562
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Speaker 1: that the roadways are in fact the the first place

563
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: to get flooded, and by design in some ways, because

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Speaker 1: that's where they also have drainage. They built drainage alongside

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Speaker 1: the roads in a lot of places, so the roads

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Speaker 1: the first places that will get flooded, the idea being

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Speaker 1: will draw water away from homes and inhabited areas. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know if a floodball would have done much

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Speaker 1: here because it is this most I mean, it sounds

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Speaker 1: to me and I don't know, but it sounds like

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Speaker 1: the water is coming from the sky mostly. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I understand that. I was just thinking along the lines

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Speaker 1: of was all these global global warming concerns and the

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Speaker 1: oil disruptions, UM, loss of life, the the economic devastation. UM.

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Speaker 1: I know in the Netherlands, if they didn't have a floodwalling, floodgate, um,

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Speaker 1: they would not be able to exist as a country. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there may be some new there may be some new

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Speaker 1: things that need to be considered here. What yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: so there's a flood wall. I think is has to

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Speaker 1: do with sea level rise, So I think that's a

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Speaker 1: different problem. So Sue, thank you for for calling in UM.

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Speaker 1: In Houston, I also think I think Houston's they called

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Speaker 1: the city of Bayous because there's all these bayous that

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Speaker 1: it's actually river ways that that that the water because

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Speaker 1: there's there's no real drainage, and so Houston is the

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Speaker 1: city of Bayous, which I think for people next door

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Speaker 1: in Louisiana. There's a lot of sense that when people

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Speaker 1: think of a bayou, you think of Louisiana, but it's

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Speaker 1: actually Houston, or Houston is the city of bayou. So

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Speaker 1: I'm learning more as I can hear about how all this,

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Speaker 1: how all this works, and how it functions. UM. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there was much that could have

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Speaker 1: been done here. I think this is just there's you know,

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Speaker 1: the natural disasters happen um, and you can prepare for

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Speaker 1: them as best you can. I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: could have been really in any way averted or uh.

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Speaker 1: I think that they're handling it as best they can

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Speaker 1: under the circumstances. Lisa and Georgia on w m c D.

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Speaker 1: Hey Lisa, Hey, Hey, I'm sorry. I'm bought muscle. Hear you?

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Speaker 1: That would be better because everyone's listening to So there

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Speaker 1: you go, Alsa do we do? We have you up?

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Speaker 1: She cut out. She meant to hit the speaker, I think,

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Speaker 1: and instead she just she just cut cut calms all right. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure she had some very insightful things to say.

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Speaker 1: We're sorry we lost you there, Lisa, Uh, Maggie Mississippi

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Speaker 1: w BUV Hey, hey, Buck, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: I'm all right, thank you? How about you? I'm doing

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Speaker 1: all right well. UM. A couple of things. One pray Texas. Um.

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Speaker 1: I've got family that lives in Kingsville. I've got other

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Speaker 1: friends that live in Um. I've got a friend was

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00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: an hour away from Houston. So um, praying for my

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Speaker 1: friends and my family out that way. Um. And another thing,

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Speaker 1: A couple other things. Louisiana does have a well. New

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Speaker 1: Orleans at least does has has a system to avoid flooding.

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Speaker 1: But for some reason, um, the last flood it had,

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Speaker 1: the the drainage system wasn't working properly just a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago. It's it's drainage just it's um, it's floods.

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Speaker 1: Just floodgate it flood uh. UM. I don't I can't

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Speaker 1: remember what they call it reduction. I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. Half half of half of their system

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Speaker 1: was down. Um. But anyway, they have a levee system

622
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. They're they're a bowls, they're bowls. And

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Speaker 1: the thing that caused them to flood during Katrina was

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Speaker 1: the levees brook right, And I think in this case,

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00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: the bayous in Houston have overflowed, basically, I think that's

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Speaker 1: what's happened. Yes, and they have something similar to what

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Speaker 1: Louisiana has. Yeah, so I mean they had systems in place,

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Speaker 1: but the system gets overwhelmed. I mean there's only so much.

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Speaker 1: I think. Another comment I have is, don't forget when

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Katrina. Don't forget to mention Mississippi. I left

631
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Speaker 1: five blocked inland. My house got six inches of water

632
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Speaker 1: inside of it. No, I know these storms can hit

633
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Speaker 1: a huge area. I mean, you know Mississippi, Alabama. Katrina

634
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: stretched from Louisiana all the way to Pensacola, Florida. Are

635
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Speaker 1: you guy, is Mississippi right now getting hit by some

636
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Speaker 1: of the storm, Yes, sir, it is. I I'm dealing

637
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Speaker 1: with rain bands right now outside. I figured what alright, Well,

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Speaker 1: you stay safe. May Thanks for calling it from Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate hearing from you. Team. We're gonna talk about Trump

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Speaker 1: and our payo and the pardon. He's holding the line

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Speaker 1: for America. Buck Sexton his back team. Buck, thanks for

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Speaker 1: hanging out with me. Buck Sexton back with you now.

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Speaker 1: And on on Friday, I was at dinner. I was

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Speaker 1: at a dinner for Miss Molly, my girlfriend, her mother,

645
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: who was her birthday. So it was a dinner, and

646
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: sure enough, I'm seeing on my phone all this stuff

647
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: about the r PIO pardon and I'm like, all, well,

648
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'll have to address this on Monday.

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00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: I well, I see what the big deal is here.

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Speaker 1: But I depart from some of my conservative colleagues on

651
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 1: why they think this is such a terrible decision. Let's

652
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: first just dispense with any uh legal outrage over this.

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00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: The president is absolutely allowed to do this within his rights,

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00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: as the presidented states to do this. There's no person

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00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: with a law degree or even with access to Google

656
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: and a baseline of curiosity argues the president does not

657
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: have a right to do The president of the right

658
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: to do this, and he did. The president can pardon

659
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: somebody under these circumstances, and that is a presidential power,

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00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, the same way the president signs signs a

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00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: bill to make it a law, and that's the president

662
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: and the president can veto and that's a presidential power.

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00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: The pardon power, which is a uh an off, well

664
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Speaker 1: awesome power in the sense of inspiring awe it is.

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00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: It is an incredibly potent tool that we give to

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00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: the president United States, and it has been, as we

667
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: will get into this in a few moments, incredibly abused

668
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: by recent Democrat presidents. But once again they're right. They're

669
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: right to do it, and they're right for the American

670
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: or and the right of the American people to judge

671
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: them for the pardons that they give. Yeah, and the

672
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: previous president extended the power of the pardon to just

673
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: be essentially a way of rewriting law. Right, So it

674
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: wasn't just I'm pardnering this individual and that individual. It's well,

675
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to suspend this law. Anyone convicted in this

676
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: law or in this way, we're gonna say, no longer

677
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: is um going to be held guilty, or no longer

678
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: it is going to be considered a criminal. But I'm

679
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 1: getting a bit ahead of myself. First, Trump came under

680
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: fire for this on Friday, Well because of the timing

681
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: of it. While it's it's happening during the hurricane. I

682
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna do it during the rally in

683
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: Phoenix earlier the week, and he didn't, obviously, And now

684
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: everyone's so focused on the timing of this. I don't

685
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of uh concern or care for

686
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: when Trump chooses to do this, just because he'd get

687
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism. It's not like if he waited

688
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: and or he did it suitor, that there wouldn't be

689
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: this well, you'd hear all the same criticisms of it.

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00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know how much it really changes the

691
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: game to have the president doing this on Friday, and uh,

692
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: people are saying it was a Friday dump. Okay, well maybe,

693
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: but he wanted to do it, and he did it.

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00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: He didn't have to do it. If it was if

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00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: he was so worried about the optics of it, he

696
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done it at all. So it doesn't to me.

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00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: The timing doesn't matter all that much. I don't see

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00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: it as major point of contention. And that's what came

699
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: up today during the press conference that Trump had. People

700
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: were asking him, first of all, he's he fully he says,

701
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: he fully stands by this, But this was just before

702
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: we came on area press conference. Trump says he stands

703
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: by it. Joe was very unfairly treated by the Obama administration,

704
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Speaker 1: especially right before an election, an election that he would

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Speaker 1: have won. So and he was elected many times. So, UM,

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00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: I stand by my pardner of Sheriff Joe. What are

707
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: he's saying here is that the Obama administration chose to

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00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: file criminal charges, criminal contempt chargers, or bring a criminal

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00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: contempt case. He's in the Department of Justice against Sheriff

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00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: Joe right before his election. He lost that election, the

711
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: election for sheriff. He's been in law enforcement for many decades.

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00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Let me see if I can

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00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: find the full count here. He was first elected sheriff

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00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: in America the county in two so he's been doing

715
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: this job for a very long time, and he has

716
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 1: over fifty years of law enforcement experience in total. Now

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00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: I know that some of the things that he has

718
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: he's done in the past, people felt like, was, you know,

719
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: show voting he was. It bothered people. It looked like

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00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: it was more for political public political consumption than it

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00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: was about law enforcement. Um, you know, I wouldn't have

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00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: made some of the choices that the sheriff may. But

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00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: then again, I'm not in law enforcement, and I honestly

724
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: couldn't really do law enforcement. Uh, it's just not my

725
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: not my thing. Um, I think I'm I'm too much

726
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: of a softie, I'd probably want to let too many

727
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: people off with a warning. So I respect those who

728
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: are able to draw the hard line and enforce the law.

729
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: But Sheriff Joe here was targeted by the oboministration with

730
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: criminal contempt. Now he could have gotten six more in

731
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: prison for this, and I see from National Review that

732
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: some of my my friends over there, the editorial board

733
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: took real issue with this. Now again they know that

734
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: he could. What Trump did is something Trump can do.

735
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: They just disagree with it. They think that it's that's

736
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: a bad precedents, that's a bad example. One of the

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Speaker 1: one of the objections that I see to the sheriff

738
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: show pardon is that they should have or Trump should

739
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: have let the process play out more. Well, the process

740
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: is the punishment. This guy should show up in court

741
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: and he's facing criminal penalties here, including up to six

742
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: months in print. Well, what if he had gotten I

743
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: don't think you would have gotten six months? What have

744
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: you gotten? You know, ninety days in prison for this?

745
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: And you're asking for what, probably for having his law

746
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: enforcement officers try and enforce the law as they saw it,

747
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: which included determining the immigration status of an individual. Which

748
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: is it's complicated. But the short version of this is

749
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 1: that in Arizona, the Obama administration at the federal level

750
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: more or less stepped in and said they didn't want

751
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: local authorities helping them enforced federal immigration law because the

752
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: Democratic Party is complicit in violation of immigration law. Democratic

753
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: Party is helping illegal aliens break the law in this country.

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00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: It benefits them, It benefits them to do so. They

755
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: wanted to happen. They encourage it to happen. They defend

756
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: sanctuary policies. They are promoting lawlessness because it gives the

757
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: Democrats raw political power. That's it. We can sit around

758
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: and talk about how all the Democrats are all about

759
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: just being in touch with people and we're a nation

760
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: of immigrants, and no, no, no no, trust me. Nancy Pelosi

761
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: doesn't care about poor people, period, and she doesn't care

762
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: about poor people who are immigrants unless she thinks they're

763
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: gonna vote for the Democratic Party. Trust me on this one.

764
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: So all of the grandstanding from the Obama administration in

765
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: the past on this was just electoral politics through the

766
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: prism of don't worry the federal government's gonna enforce immigration law.

767
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: We don't want state authorities, So we don't want local

768
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 1: government getting involved here. This is the federal government saying, hey,

769
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: if you have somebody who's violated federal immigration law, or

770
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: if you if you want to find that out, don't

771
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: because we don't need the help. Really, federal government doesn't

772
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: need the help. But it comes to enforcing the border,

773
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: forcing immigration law. Who believes that, what's the problem here?

774
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: Why can't they assist in immigration? And now this went

775
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: to court and and the and you know Arizona there

776
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: was the law. What is it? I think it was.

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00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: I forget that the designation for law. Looking up in

778
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: a second um is that uh law in Arizona having

779
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: to do with enforcing immigration, you know, trying to get

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00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: more aggressive on this. And the contempt charge against Sheriff

781
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: jour are Pio had to do with stopping people these

782
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: stops where they would try to ascertain immigration status. And

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00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: they're saying that he was profiling, that he was racially

784
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: discriminatory in these Well, profiling is interesting because when you're

785
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: near the US Mexico border, you are going to have

786
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: a preponderance of illegal immigration cases that involved Mexico and

787
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: Central America. We we can pretend like that's not the case,

788
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: but it's obviously the case. So the profiling issue becomes

789
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: very complicated very quickly. Are you profiling or are you

790
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: just coming across a disparity that exists because of geography,

791
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: not because of bigotry. But there was some degree all sides,

792
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 1: who are trying to be fair here in the sheriff

793
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: Joe case, there was some degree of complexity as to

794
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: whether he was complying with this court order to not

795
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: engage in profiling or not engage in discriminatory law enforcement practices.

796
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: And there and the judge that brought the contemporary and

797
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: I believe if he was denied, he's right to a

798
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: jury trial here. So the judge just got to pass

799
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: judgment on him. Not really, that's the way it's supposed

800
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: to work out. Everyone pretty sure the whole jury trial

801
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: thing for criminal charge is supposed to be your right

802
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: as a as a US citizen, as an American. But yeah,

803
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: he was denied that he was a judge, I think,

804
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: and I should check on this to a judge just

805
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: looked this. Judges was able to do a bench trial

806
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: for him. So and you know, found him guilty here

807
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: of contempt. And here we are now we're being told

808
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: that what Trump did was so bad. Okay, So on

809
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: the timing issue, there's there's a timing issue and a

810
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: propriety issue. Here here's what Trump said about the timing

811
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: of it. Well, a lot of people think it was

812
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: the right thing to do, jenn And actually, in the

813
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: middle of a hurricane, even though it was a Friday evening,

814
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: I assumed the ratings would be far higher than they

815
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: would be normally. You know, the hurricane was just starting. Uh,

816
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: And I put it out that I had pardoned as

817
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: we call, as we say, Sheriff Joe. He's done a

818
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: great job for the people of Arizona. He's very strong

819
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: on boarders, very strong on illegal immigration. He is loved

820
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: in Arizona. I thought he was treated unbelievably unfairly when

821
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: they came down with their big decision to go get

822
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: him right before the election voting started, as you know,

823
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: and he lost in a fairly close election. He would

824
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: have won the election, but they just hammered him. He's

825
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: saying that if he wanted to hide this, he wouldn't

826
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: do it during the hurricane coverage because so many more

827
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: people are paying attention to the news. I mean you know,

828
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: I guess you can say that it over it clearly

829
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: overshadows it, and so it's a way of how he

830
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: did it on a Friday. But again I don't really

831
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: he didn't have to do this, so he's choosing to

832
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: do it, and that he's choosing to do it in

833
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: this manner doesn't really change. I think the discussion about

834
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: whether or not it was Remember, it's not whether it

835
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: was legal. It's definitely legal. Is it wise? Is it? Just?

836
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: Does it set a good precedent? Uh? The other criticism

837
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: that this is somehow a this is well, what I mean,

838
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: the criticism that the timing is bad, I don't really buy. Oh,

839
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: that that the system should be allowed to play out, Well,

840
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: that just means you're going to let him, um, gonna

841
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 1: let him suffer more. And if you're going to pardon

842
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,479
Speaker 1: a guy, why not just pardon him right away? Because

843
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: I think he was awaiting sentencing still and he had appeals.

844
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: People say, oh, he had appeals. Oh, you're gonna make

845
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: somebody go through appeals so you can pardon them after

846
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: all that the process is the punishment. So I don't

847
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: like that. I don't like that line of argument at all.

848
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he should have exhausted all his appeals and

849
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: then get pardoned. Why Um. And then we get into

850
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: the politics of this, which is where this gets thick,

851
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: where this really all comes together, which is all it's

852
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: all about. What do you what do you think about

853
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Speaker 1: our pio and and trying to enforce immigration. That really determines,

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Speaker 1: for the most part, overwhelming the whether you like Trump's

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Speaker 1: pardon of him or not? And can the president or

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Speaker 1: should the president the president ken Ken's not the right word.

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Speaker 1: Should the president take it upon himself or herself in

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Speaker 1: the future to grant a pardon to use this executive

859
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Speaker 1: power because of making a political point, the desire to

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Speaker 1: show that one side is getting in this case persecuted

861
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Speaker 1: for trying to enforce the law or uh, this is

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Speaker 1: clearly a political decision or or has political ramifications. How

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Speaker 1: does that affect all of this? Um, Well, we know

864
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Speaker 1: the Democrats do this. Now people will say, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: look at what you know Barack Obama did with Chelsea Manning.

866
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Speaker 1: Pardoned him. I'm sorry, commuted him. Important distinction. Commutation just

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Speaker 1: means a lesser, lesser punishment in that case, let Chelsea

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Speaker 1: Manning out of prison. Pardon is like it never happened, right,

869
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Speaker 1: It's like you were never convicted and you and whatever

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Speaker 1: penalty you had set up, you're not going to serve,

871
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Speaker 1: and it vacates the conviction if you're there. So pardon

872
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: is like the president just wipes it away, clean slate

873
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Speaker 1: for you. And as Trump was quick to point out,

874
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Speaker 1: the Democrats have used this in the past for it's

875
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Speaker 1: really been for sale with Democrats. So you have the

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Speaker 1: Mark Rich pardon, infamous pardon where by the way, Attorney

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Speaker 1: General Eric Holder signed off on that when he was

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Speaker 1: a senior U S attorney under the Clinton administration. He

879
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Speaker 1: and he was directly involved with that whole process. So yeah,

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00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: that so under Clinton he's part of the Mark Rich

881
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: pardon fiasco, and then later on Obama makes some attorney

882
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Speaker 1: general gets rewarded for it. Mark Rich's wife was a

883
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Speaker 1: big dollar Democrat donor, March. Mark Rich defrauded people, stole

884
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Speaker 1: their money, fled to Switzerland, never faced the justice system,

885
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: never served the day in prison, day in jail, nothing,

886
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: and President Clint just wiped the whole thing away. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Trump pointed out some of the past pardons have been

888
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Speaker 1: President Clinton pardoned Mark Rich, who was charged with crimes

889
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Speaker 1: going back decades, including illegally buying oil from Iran while

890
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: it held fifty three American hostages. Wasn't allowed to do that,

891
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Speaker 1: selling to the enemies of the United States. He was

892
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Speaker 1: pardoned after his wife donated hundreds of thousands of dollars

893
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Speaker 1: to the Clintons. You have dangerous criminals. President Clinton pardon

894
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Speaker 1: Susan Rosenberg, a member of the Weathered underground charge as

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Speaker 1: part of a bank robbery that led to a guard

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Speaker 1: and two police officers being killed. Drug dealers. President Clinton

897
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: commuted the sentence of Carlos Vignally, a central player in

898
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Speaker 1: a cocaine ring that stretched from California to Minnesota. Criminal leaker.

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Speaker 1: President Obama commuted the sentence of Chelsea Manning. Now what

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Speaker 1: you're seeing here is Trump laying out that the other side, Democrats,

901
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: Clinton Obama, have pardoned people for all all kinds of reasons,

902
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Speaker 1: and they were making a political point or they were

903
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: just engaging dirty politics. But oftentimes that is you're making

904
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Speaker 1: a judgment call about a pardon, it's going to feel

905
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: it's going to look political. And if you want to

906
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Speaker 1: make the point that someone should not be serving prison

907
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Speaker 1: time for enforcing immigration law. Perhaps over zealously, perhaps not,

908
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: but that's the president's prerogative. So I don't understand why

909
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Speaker 1: there's such an outwiche from the right. I mean, the

910
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: Democrats are of course going to hate it, but why

911
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,959
Speaker 1: did conservatives hated I love that president. He supports law

912
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Speaker 1: enforcement and not very humble nice said publicly recently, pardon

913
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Speaker 1: or no pardon. I will be with him to the end,

914
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to have a news conference early next

915
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Speaker 1: week and can get to the bottom of this and

916
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Speaker 1: show the abuse of the judicial system and politics. I'm

917
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Speaker 1: not going down without trying to defend mysel There. We

918
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Speaker 1: have a sheriff, Joe R. Pio, I believe, on Sean

919
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: Hannity's program, talking about how he's gonna stay with President

920
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Speaker 1: Trump and he supports him and whether it's a pardoner

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Speaker 1: or not. And now we know that our Pio has

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Speaker 1: been pardoned. In fact, I mentioned a law in Arizona

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Speaker 1: law it's SB ten seventy, and it went all the

924
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Speaker 1: way up to the Supreme Court, and there was one

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Speaker 1: part of that was upheld, which is that Arizona State

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Speaker 1: police are allowed to investigate the immigration status of an

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Speaker 1: individual stop detained or arrested if there is a quote

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Speaker 1: reasonable suspicion that the individual is in the country illegally.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, there were some other parts of this that

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Speaker 1: other parts of SB. Ten seventy that were struck down

931
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Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court. You had Justice Kagan recused herself

932
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Speaker 1: and you had a majority opinion with Kennedy, Roberts, Ginsberg, Briar,

933
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Speaker 1: and Soda, Mayor so Yes and Scala, Thomas and Alito

934
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Speaker 1: concurred in part and dissent it in parts. So this

935
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Speaker 1: law made it all out the Supreme Court, and they

936
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Speaker 1: were saying that you can't have different states and enforcing

937
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Speaker 1: different immigration laws only up to the federal government. Isn't

938
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Speaker 1: that interesting? But you can have different states that refused

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Speaker 1: to enforce federal uh federal immigrational You can have sanctuary jurisdictions,

940
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Speaker 1: but you can't have places that are trying to help.

941
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: So you have places that refuse to help and Democrats

942
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Speaker 1: and your places that aren't allowed to help. It's only

943
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: the federal government can do anything on immigration laws. Even

944
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Speaker 1: though there's a federal law in the books right now

945
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Speaker 1: that says that you have you can ascertain the or

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00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: you can request the local law enforce and demand local

947
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Speaker 1: law enforcement pass along the immigration status of somebody in custody.

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Speaker 1: Uh Michelle in North Dakota. We got about a minute,

949
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Speaker 1: but I want to get you in what's up high

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Speaker 1: the area I have. I have a word or two

951
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: to say. Like I told your lady who answered the phone,

952
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Speaker 1: I'm a serious victim of illegal immigration marriage fraud. I

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Speaker 1: was never intended to know the things that I know.

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00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: I had to hire private investigators, and then when I

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Speaker 1: could no longer afford that, had to become my own

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Speaker 1: investigator and continued. And I know things that general people

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Speaker 1: absolutely do not know. This has been going on for

958
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Speaker 1: greater than fifty years. Just within my husband's family alone.

959
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Speaker 1: He's got grandparents who have duped people like me. They

960
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: don't put up a p s A for us people,

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Speaker 1: not at all. We don't know that it's immigration law

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Speaker 1: that they need to stay married greater than four years

963
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: and that they need to birth one child preferably to

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Speaker 1: Nobody knows that there are no p s A s.

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Speaker 1: And there is no help for people like us, none

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Speaker 1: at all. And therein lies the huge problem just exactly

967
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. The fact of the matter is, is

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Speaker 1: is there are people that truly believe it's not illegal.

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Speaker 1: You are now entering the Freedom Technical Operations Center. All

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00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: sensitive programs must be kept strictly. Need to know Team

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Speaker 1: Bucket is cleared and ready for the buck brief report.

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Speaker 1: North Koreia or North Korea launches missile over northern Japan.

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Speaker 1: Here are some of the details from the Independent in

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Speaker 1: the UK. North Korea has test fired a missile over

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Speaker 1: Japan in an unprecedented act that is likely to further

976
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Speaker 1: inflame tensions in the region. Japan's government has confirmed it

977
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: is the latest act of provocation by the communist state

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Speaker 1: since it fired missiles into the Sea of Japan three

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00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: days ago, following comments from President Donald Trump that he

980
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: would meet any threats from North Korea with fire and fury.

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Speaker 1: If initial reports proved correct and long range missile has

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Speaker 1: been flown over the Japanese mainland, this will be regarded

983
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: as a far more provocative act than flying shorter range

984
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Speaker 1: weapons into the sea. So you've heard of shot across

985
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Speaker 1: the battle before. I mean, this is a missile across

986
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: the mainland. Assuming this is true, this is a big deal. Um,

987
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: think about how we would react. I mean, I know

988
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: that this is far away. It is a major country

989
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: and a major US ally in Japan. But imagine for

990
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: a moment if a crazy UH nuclear autocracy tyranny like

991
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Speaker 1: North Korea fired any kind of missile over Let's just

992
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Speaker 1: say Hawaii for a second, and just you know, the

993
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: people of Hawaii. You could see the missile street. While

994
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: I get I don't know how fast these things go,

995
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: but you know, missile streaks across the air lands in

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00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: the sea after crossing Hawaiian airspace. We would have something

997
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: to say about that that would put people on edge

998
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: for very understandable reasons. And jyp hand has to be

999
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: looking at what's going on right now in North Korean

1000
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: wondering when when does it cross from provocation into outright

1001
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: hostility and UH and an act of not just intimidation

1002
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: but an act of war. These are not clearly defined lines.

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00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: These are politically malleable lines, meaning that the political sentiment

1004
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: of the moment can determine and the political leadership certainly

1005
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: can determine what the response and the reaction is to

1006
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: incidents like this. Now, the Trump administration has raised North

1007
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Speaker 1: Korea as a problem that requires an immediate and imminent response.

1008
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: I think it is fair to look at what was

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Speaker 1: done for eight years of the Obama administration and say

1010
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: not nearly enough was done. And the doctrine you can't

1011
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: make this up, or you don't have to make it up,

1012
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: because it's there for you. In Libya, which was an

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01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: intervention that led to a failed state and a jee

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Speaker 1: Hottest at least for a for a while, a gie

1015
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Speaker 1: Hottest takeover, and an Islamic state enclave on the coast

1016
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: of Libya, the phrase that we all remember the strategic

1017
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: overview of Libya was leading from behind under the administration,

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Speaker 1: and with North Korea, it is or was strategic patients.

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01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: I was once told by a very wise man that

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Speaker 1: strategy or strategic is kind of like hummus. You just

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Speaker 1: added to things to make it taste better than it

1022
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: otherwise would be. But it's not really all that meaningful. Um,

1023
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: and so patients in this case for the Obama administration,

1024
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: was just a fancy way of saying in action and

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Speaker 1: strategic was. I know, for a lot of your like hummus,

1026
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,479
Speaker 1: buck bad choice. How about peanut butter or ntella or something. Okay, fine,

1027
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: but same idea. You just added to it and it

1028
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: tastes better. Strategic. That's the case a lot of time.

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01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: Senior you you can turn on the TV, is the

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Speaker 1: senior White House Report, as opposed just the White House Reporter,

1031
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: the senior analyst for whatever I was supposed to just

1032
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Speaker 1: the analyst. Um, you know, Senior is a title that

1033
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: could also get much abuse. It depends on the circumstances,

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01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: but it can also be something that doesn't really have

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Speaker 1: all that much meaning. But strategic devil and all, and

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01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: sometimes tactical too. I mean I get people like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna I've got a I've got a

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01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: tactical mug. Why is it is it like better at

1039
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Speaker 1: innovating the enemy than a normal mug? I mean it

1040
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: maybe if it's camouflage, I guess, But I don't know

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Speaker 1: how a mug would necessarily be tactical, you see what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. But strategic patients was just a fancy way

1043
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: of saying not doing very much at all and allowing

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Speaker 1: the problem to fester and get worse. And that's what

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01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: happened in North Korea. And I think that there's now

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01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: a much greater focus from the public on understanding what

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01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: North Korean intentions maybe and to do that you have

1048
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Speaker 1: understand North Korean ideology and the situation of the North

1049
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Speaker 1: Korean state. I think very few Americans know, for example,

1050
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Speaker 1: or very few Americans have been told that North Korea

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Speaker 1: views the nineteen fifty four cessation of hostilities after the

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Speaker 1: Korean War as being In North Korea, the sessation of

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Speaker 1: hostilities is viewed as is talked about I'm sorry. Nineteen

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Speaker 1: fifty three, pardon me um is talked about as a

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Speaker 1: surrender by the United States, a surrender it has talked

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Speaker 1: about as a giant victory for the Kim regime. So

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Speaker 1: when we think about how North Koreans, and particularly the

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01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: military apparatus thinks of its current position, we have to

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Speaker 1: keep in mind that they think that they beat us

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Speaker 1: in nineteen well from three in the i In War.

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Speaker 1: They very much downplay the assistance of the Chinese in

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Speaker 1: that this is no North Korea. North Korean media the

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Speaker 1: official narrative inside the country, which is different from the

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Speaker 1: narrative outside the country. Of course, in fact, South Korea

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Speaker 1: also somewhat downplays the US role in their liberation from

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Speaker 1: North Korea, but that's perhaps another discussion. And we know

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Speaker 1: that there are some elements in South Korea that very

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Speaker 1: much want the that view the US presence there as

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Speaker 1: the problem with the US to leave and their noisy

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Speaker 1: protests about this sometimes. But the North Koreans believe that

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Speaker 1: they beat us in Nree and that since then we

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Speaker 1: talk about using the international community to UH punished North Korea,

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Speaker 1: to cut them off from the world. Meanwhile, they view

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Speaker 1: the particularly over the nuclear negotiations, they view it as

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Speaker 1: the US and the rest of the world paying tribute

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Speaker 1: to them. And when you think about it, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: do show up with food. We do show up with

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Speaker 1: stuff for them. In fact, there are it became acceptable

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Speaker 1: for a while to carry around United Nations aid bags,

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Speaker 1: the actual bags that the aid came in. You think, well,

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Speaker 1: how could a country like that allow How could the

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Speaker 1: the official uh, you know, state media, How could the

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Speaker 1: official state policy allow U N food bags to be

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Speaker 1: carried around for other things? Right to sort of reuse

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Speaker 1: reuse these bags, because doesn't it show that there are

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Speaker 1: a dependency of the you know, the international community. I know,

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Speaker 1: because the mentality is that the u N brings them stuff,

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Speaker 1: because the u N is in a sense paying tribute, right,

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Speaker 1: the the u N is bowing to the care regime. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: start to think about it in those terms. And and

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Speaker 1: also remember the UN plays a very much larger role

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Speaker 1: in in Korean sense of history because the Korean War

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Speaker 1: was a u N mission. We don't now we usually

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Speaker 1: think about the U N and bureaucrats and not doing

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Speaker 1: a lot and standing on the sidelines during genocide when

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Speaker 1: they're supposed to be intervening in nineteen the nineteen fifty UH,

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Speaker 1: the nineteen fifty war or the war that started it

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Speaker 1: was a u N based war UN mission of the

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Speaker 1: United States leading it as the principal force came the

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Speaker 1: eight to South Korea was a U N intervention. So

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Speaker 1: there's an entirely different narrative of history from inside of

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Speaker 1: North Korea that affects the way they see their future.

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Speaker 1: And they're aware now of South Korea's much greater material prosperity.

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Speaker 1: But North Koreans believe that they are a virtuous people

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Speaker 1: that are beset by evil Americans and everyone else puppet

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Speaker 1: regime in South Korea, and all that it takes is

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Speaker 1: military reunification of the Korean peninsula and then Koreans will

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Speaker 1: reach their true greatness. So the whole state is geared

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Speaker 1: towards this. They're not saying they're gonna make people prosperous

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Speaker 1: and rich and happy in North Korea. They're saying they're

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Speaker 1: gonna unify the Korean peninsula. This is North Korean, not

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Speaker 1: just propaganda. This is like the mission statement of the

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Speaker 1: Kim regime. They will unify the Korean Peninsula, and then

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Speaker 1: the Korean people will will achieve greatness, and the prosperity

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Speaker 1: of the South, of course, will be shared in the

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Speaker 1: North and everybody will be better off. But it only

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Speaker 1: comes through war. There is no Plan B that anyone

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Speaker 1: ever talks about. There there is no other option. And

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Speaker 1: I know we could say, well, we would never allow this,

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Speaker 1: and okay, that's the policy. Now. If North Korea was

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Speaker 1: able to with conventional munitions take South Korea quickly enough

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Speaker 1: and if the US did not have South Korea's back,

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Speaker 1: is there is there a future we could even conjure

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Speaker 1: we could imagine where the peninsula is unified under the

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Speaker 1: Kim regime. Probably not, but it's not entirely impossible. And

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Speaker 1: if they think it's possible, that's dangerous enough. All Welcome

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Speaker 1: back everyone. I know we've been talking a lot about

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Speaker 1: the storm down in Texas and how it's continuing. Plus

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Speaker 1: Antifa out in California and the violence at a protest there.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to just skip over what happened

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Speaker 1: at the White House on Friday. The news came in

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Speaker 1: late Friday, right after the show. I saw that our

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Speaker 1: friend Dr Sebastian Gorka had decided that it was time

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Speaker 1: to move on to some other pressing opportunities. Dr Gorka

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Speaker 1: joins us now. He is former deputy assistant to President

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Dr great to have you. Thanks for having me,

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Speaker 1: all right, Dr Worker, I mean, what happened, Well, look,

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Speaker 1: and it's very simple. I came into the administration as

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Speaker 1: a politically commissioned officer, a deputy assistant working directly to

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Speaker 1: the bann and the chief strategist. Now we came aboard

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Speaker 1: to make the Macca vision a reality, especially in the

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Speaker 1: field of national security. In recent months, other voices have

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Speaker 1: arted to be ascendant within the White House. And then

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Speaker 1: the speech. I was on vacation and I read that

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Speaker 1: the text of the President's speech in Afghanistan, and I

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Speaker 1: realized that there are other influences, other tendencies, and no

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Speaker 1: mention of radical Islam, no mention of radical Islam chosing

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Speaker 1: in that speech. So I decided there are certain limitations

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Speaker 1: to what I can do effectively inside the White House.

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Speaker 1: Those do not exist on the outside. I tended my

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Speaker 1: resignation with the General Kelly, the Chief of Staff, on Friday,

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Speaker 1: and gave my letter of resignation. The President reached out

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Speaker 1: to me that they are from Saturday, thank me for

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Speaker 1: my support, hope that I will support him on the outside,

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Speaker 1: and I have sent a message back to him that

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Speaker 1: is very much what I will be doing. Dr Gorka.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a gossip calumnist, and I respect that you

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Speaker 1: have obligations, not just of course secrecy obligations which I

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Speaker 1: know all to all myself, but also just professional ethical

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Speaker 1: ones to your former employer and those around him. But

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Speaker 1: on the issue of removing radical Islam from a speech, um,

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Speaker 1: can you tell us where that comes from within either

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Speaker 1: the White House of the National Security Complex. I mean,

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Speaker 1: who thinks that radical Islam should not be spoken of?

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Speaker 1: Because if they want to remove from the speech, I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's something that they should also then be

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Speaker 1: unwilling to make the case for removing it from a speech.

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Speaker 1: There shouldn't be something that happens in the shadows. I agree,

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Speaker 1: but I I appreciate your discretion. And the last thing

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Speaker 1: I think to do is to add to any of

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Speaker 1: the stories of palace intrigue. I've been the prompt of

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Speaker 1: enough of those stories in the last eight months, and

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Speaker 1: in ninety percent of the cases they're all focused anyway. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's it's just tendency. A lot of it has to

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Speaker 1: do with holdover individuals, people that the bureaucracy inherited. It's

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Speaker 1: very important that everybody understands the January twentieth transition was

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Speaker 1: a hostile takeover. The victory on the Empity eight was

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Speaker 1: an insurgent victory. This is a small band of merry

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Speaker 1: insurgents that took over the federal government. And there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who disagree with the president's vision,

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Speaker 1: despite the fact that they pick up their paycheck to

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Speaker 1: work for the executive. So no names, no pack drills,

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Speaker 1: but I think you understand the enormity of moving the

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Speaker 1: direction of the state away from the last eight years

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Speaker 1: of terrorism being the result of you know, polity, climate change,

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Speaker 1: you name it. We're speaking of Dr Sabashian Gorka, forming

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Speaker 1: Deputy Assistant to President Trump. He just left the White House,

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Speaker 1: resigned on Friday, and he's joining us now. Dr Gorka,

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Speaker 1: there has been a lot of talk since you mentioned

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Speaker 1: the Hostle takeover. There's been a lot of talk with

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Speaker 1: this administration about forget about those that you were working

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Speaker 1: day in and day out within the White House, but

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Speaker 1: of a deep state element that exists in the federal bureaucracy.

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Speaker 1: How much credibility should people give to those discussions and

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Speaker 1: how much of a concern is it for you now

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Speaker 1: going forward trying to help the president and and be

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Speaker 1: a part of his message from the outside. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not a huge fan of the phrase deep state. I

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Speaker 1: think the reality is is the permanent state of permanent bureaucracy. Um. Again,

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Speaker 1: it was a real eye opener to me to be

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Speaker 1: in a PCC meetings in Nascal Council meetings that lasted

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Speaker 1: for an hour and an hour and a half and

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Speaker 1: having to be the lone voice that at the end

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Speaker 1: would remind everybody that they're there to serve the mission

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Speaker 1: of the president. They're not there to carry on business

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Speaker 1: as usual. The American people decide, they choose a commander

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Speaker 1: in chief. As a result, it is beholden upon them

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Speaker 1: to follow the directives of the new commander in chief,

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Speaker 1: and in many cases they think that they know better,

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Speaker 1: and that's not how republican democracy works. And I think

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Speaker 1: that that's our biggest problem, those people who think they

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Speaker 1: know better than the newly empowered chief Chief Executive Dr. Gorka.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who listened to this

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Speaker 1: show who have been not just supportive of the president

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Speaker 1: from day one after he was sworn in, but long

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Speaker 1: before that, and they have seen the vision, they have

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Speaker 1: agreed with it, and they want to see its implementation.

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Speaker 1: But I can tell you based on what I hear

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Speaker 1: both on the show on the air as well as

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Speaker 1: offline and people are sending me messages and emails or

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Speaker 1: off air rather, is that there are concerns. What do

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Speaker 1: you say to people right now who are worried that,

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Speaker 1: as you put it, the MAGA agenda is hitting the rocks.

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't be white. The magrit gender isn't just a

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Speaker 1: function of who's inside the White House, who's a political

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Speaker 1: appoint see, who's running a specific policy package. It's a

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Speaker 1: much much bigger phenomena. Steve Bannon outside the West Wing

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Speaker 1: is actually far more powerful than he would have been

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Speaker 1: inside the West wing. So you know, the President assured

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Speaker 1: me that he will stay on his agenda. Nothing's changing

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Speaker 1: with regards to his commitment. We have to make sure

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Speaker 1: that those patriots on the inside, political points and otherwise,

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Speaker 1: and those people on the outside like myself and Steve Bannon,

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Speaker 1: do everything in our power to make the President's vision reality.

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Speaker 1: So don't worry. You know better than most, having been

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Speaker 1: inside the belly of the beast, that this is about

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Speaker 1: the long game. Yeah, it has to be. One has

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Speaker 1: to be patient or else, or else despair quickly takes over.

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Speaker 1: Dr Grger will let you go. I know you're very busy.

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of people want to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: But just one last thing. What's next for you? Exciting things.

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Speaker 1: We're going to create several initiatives that are going to

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Speaker 1: embody what you can call a Jacksonian vision of national

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Speaker 1: security in foreign policy, embodying a smart center. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to be having to choose between the isolationism of

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Speaker 1: of the Cato Institute types or the interventionism of the

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Speaker 1: neo conservatives. We are going to embody the mega national

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Speaker 1: security agenda with various initiatives on the outside that will

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Speaker 1: make sure the president has all the ammunition he needs

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Speaker 1: to keep this nation safe. Dr Smash and Gorka, hoping

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Speaker 1: you'll come back and tell us about them in due time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your service the country, and

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us on the show. I'd be

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Speaker 1: delighted any time. Thank you so much. Blessed he's back

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Speaker 1: with you now, because when it comes to the fight

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Speaker 1: for truth, the fuck never stops. While this was, while

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Speaker 1: that was making its way through all the news feeds,

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Speaker 1: and all of us were sending our thoughts, prayers and

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Speaker 1: assistance even because of the world we live in now.

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Speaker 1: You can send money, and you can you can do

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Speaker 1: something to help, as I've been talking to you about

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Speaker 1: here on the show. If you want to help, you

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Speaker 1: can help. Sending a little bit of money helps. And

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Speaker 1: those who are in the region and have been showing

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Speaker 1: up with any kind of uh watercraft everything from from

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Speaker 1: fishing boats to ski boats, to pontoon boats to kayaks,

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Speaker 1: do you name it, and people have been really helping out.

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Speaker 1: But while all that was going on of the weekend,

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Speaker 1: there were these stories about what happened at Berkeley over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, and there was there was a a right

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Speaker 1: wing protests, and this is another one of these times

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Speaker 1: where we're led to believe it's alt right, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know enough about the group to know much other

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Speaker 1: than that they say they're having a free speech gathering

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Speaker 1: and that they were from all the reports that I've read.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't there, but I was going through all the

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Speaker 1: feeds and scrolling through different journalists who are on the scene.

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Speaker 1: From everything I've read, there was no violence from the

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Speaker 1: free speech side. But from what I have seen, including

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Speaker 1: videos and we played a montage for you before, of

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Speaker 1: what was going on out there, there were people who

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Speaker 1: showed up as part of this antifa movement. And once again,

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Speaker 1: these individuals believe addressing in black from head to toe,

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Speaker 1: carrying weapons and beating people up for saying things that

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Speaker 1: they don't like is opposing fascism instead of in fact

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Speaker 1: embodying one of the early traits of schism, which is

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Speaker 1: suppression of speech under threat of force. Antifa has no

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Speaker 1: grasp of irony, it would seem, or at least no

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Speaker 1: grasp of history, and I'm sure that's true. By the way,

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Speaker 1: also noticing that more and more reporters are seeing that

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Speaker 1: this Antifa anti fascist group is just a rebranded version

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Speaker 1: of the Black Block anarchists of previous protests, stretching all

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Speaker 1: the way back to where the w t O was protested.

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Speaker 1: And by protested, I mean rioted by these Black Block

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01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: leftist stormtroopers, breaking windows, attacking cops, causing mayhem, causing real damage,

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Speaker 1: and causing violence. This is what they do. It's not new,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's very important as we discuss all this,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna keep pointing to Charlotte's fell and say, see,

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Speaker 1: this is necessary because of those racist, bigoted jerks in

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Speaker 1: Charlotte's Ville, and they are racist. There there were and

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Speaker 1: are racist big as a jerks. There were, There were

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01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 1: racist big as a jerks in Charlottesville, scummy losers. But

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01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: not everyone who wants to have a free speech protest

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01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: all across the country is carrying a swastika and yelling

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01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: sighil and blood and soil and all this other stuff.

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01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: That's in fact, not what we're talking about. It's not

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Speaker 1: what happened in Boston. All these anti fascists showed up,

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01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: including Black Block anarchists, under this new banner, this rebranding

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Speaker 1: of them as Antifa, and from what I've seen wasn't

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Speaker 1: the case in Berkeley either, your people who were just

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01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 1: wearing Trump hats who were being attacked on the street.

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Speaker 1: Last week I talked to you about some of the

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01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: assaults that have occurred, including somebody stabbed because he quote

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01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: had a fascist haircut, meaning just short on the sides,

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: long on top, which is actually a trendy haircut in

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Speaker 1: a lot of parts of the country. Mackaelmore Brad Pitt.

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01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: I've told you other people have had this haircut. This

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01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: is not I am a fascist, this is just a

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01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: trendy haircut. Uh. People stabbed, people attack people, paunch a

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01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: Trump protester, African American Trump pro Trump protester punched in

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Speaker 1: the face, blindsided by somebody just cause because he's saying

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01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: he's pro Trump. These acts of violence across the country

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Speaker 1: getting so much less attention. And I do want to

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Speaker 1: remind you all of the way things this is not

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Speaker 1: what about is and this is historical context. It's important

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01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: to keep in mind the way all of this was

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01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,879
Speaker 1: going in the past, the way that this was treated

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Speaker 1: by the media previously, as we look at what's happening

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Speaker 1: now and today. Because the Tea Party, if somebody so

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Speaker 1: much is blew their nose too hard at one of

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Speaker 1: these rallies. Uh, that we would be hearing about how

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Speaker 1: the Tea Party is out of control and you know,

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Speaker 1: there's all kinds of problems with them, and with Antifa,

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Speaker 1: you're seeing violence breaking out. I mean, I I posted

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. I just couldn't help myself a photo a

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Speaker 1: still shot of the video, because there's video out there,

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Speaker 1: and I think we have some of it up on

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Speaker 1: bux x and dot com and if we don't already,

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01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: we will video of these black block anarchists attacking people

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Speaker 1: who have done nothing to them. They are physically assaulting people,

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01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: and the police are there, and the police are not

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01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: intervening nearly fast enough that that the Washington Post was

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01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: publishing stories or publishing editorials. It was it was on

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Speaker 1: the opinion section, but editorial recently that said why the

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01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: left gave up on political violence? This is the the intelligentsia,

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01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: the American left hold this up as a talking point

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01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: while antifas punching people in the face, and while we

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01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:57,480
Speaker 1: are still recovering as a nation from the mass assassination

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01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: of US congressmen, a mainstream Bernie Sanders supporter right guy

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01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: was told everything seemed over by this guy, and then

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Speaker 1: he decided to kill a bunch of people who were

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Speaker 1: Republican conservative members of Congress. And then we have talking

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Speaker 1: heads and writers and journalists going on TV or anywhere

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Speaker 1: that they have a platform saying the left has given

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01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: up on violence. We are in dangerous times for discourse.

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Speaker 1: As I have been telling you, it's not just that

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Speaker 1: you can't punch people for saying things you don't like,

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Speaker 1: even if they're Nazis, and we're not even talking about Nazis,

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01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: but also the definition of what's a Nazi is being

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01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: expanded to include anyone that the left designates a Nazi.

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Speaker 1: It is similar in a sense to what you see

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01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: within the Islamic community called tuck fear touch fears. When

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01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: Muslims can declare that other Muslims are no longer in

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Speaker 1: fact Muslims because they are not pure in their beliefs

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01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,839
Speaker 1: and their collaborate raiders with infidels, with unbelievers, and therefore

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Speaker 1: can be attacked, can be targeted for murder the same

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Speaker 1: way as nonbelievers can. It's called and this is why

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Speaker 1: some people refer to jihadis like Al Qaeda as Tuch

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01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: fits well. Within the left, they aren't taking their own

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Speaker 1: people and pushing them out and saying that they're that,

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Speaker 1: although that may it may come to that point down

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Speaker 1: the line, but they're taking their fellow Americans and saying,

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Speaker 1: see that person, that person is sympathetic to or is

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Speaker 1: close to, is all th right, is somehow connected to Nazis.

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01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: Therefore they can be punched. Therefore they can be attacked,

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01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: and there's a moral obligation to do so to prevent

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Speaker 1: them from speaking. Media doesn't get all in a frenzy

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01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: about this. You'll notice they're not all that upset at all,

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01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: because most of the people you see reporting on Antifa

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Speaker 1: agree at some level with the sentiment that Antifa is

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Speaker 1: part of the resistance, as they call themselves, against a

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Speaker 1: dangerous and destructive Trump administration. A Trump administration that is

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Speaker 1: in fact so dangerous in the eyes of Antifa that

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Speaker 1: tactics that include violence and destruction of property, as we

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Speaker 1: saw at the inauguration. I should note hundreds of people

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Speaker 1: arrested in d C cars let on fire. That was

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Speaker 1: all Antifa. Trump hadn't even done anything yet. But Trump

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Speaker 1: is just the excuse leftism as embodied by or if

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Speaker 1: you want to call it, the uh militant liberalism, progressivism.

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Speaker 1: Leftism in this country as embodied by Antifa is not

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Speaker 1: about opposition to Trump. That's just the excuse. They existed

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Speaker 1: before Trump even came into office. Black Block anarchists were

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Speaker 1: tearing around New York City mac in when I was

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Speaker 1: covering them as part the Occupy Wall Street protests. I

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Speaker 1: have the photos, I have the videos. They were maniacs,

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Speaker 1: then their maniacs. Now they would attack people that didn't like.

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01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: Then they would attack people that didn't like. Now it

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Speaker 1: was uncomfortable being a journalist being near them because I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know this. They've threatened to attack journalists this weekend too.

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Speaker 1: They actually did attack a journalist, but they're threatening to

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Speaker 1: attack any journalists. They bloodied a journalists. There are photos

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01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 1: of this. You'd think that fellow journalists would be really

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01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: upset and outrage about this, but more important for most

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01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: of them at least to be part of the hashtag

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01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 1: resistance against Trump. They're too sympathetic to the espoused causes

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01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: of antifa to speak out about Antifa, and the whole

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01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 1: thing is a lie. I'm here to tell you anti

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01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 1: fas a lie. Doesn't. It has nothing to do with Trump. Really,

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01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,600
Speaker 1: Trump now is just the latest. He's the excuse. But

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01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: anti fag existed before, these tactics, these mentality existed before.

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Speaker 1: The difference is journalism and the establishment and the Democratic

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01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: Party are even more sympathetic to antifa now. They're even

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01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: more willing to turn a blind eye to black block

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01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 1: tactics and campuses have sympathies for the message that speech

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01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: that the left declares to be violence is in fact violence.

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01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: So that's the change this group has always been around.

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01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: They are not new. They're not a response to Trump.

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01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: That is a lie. They are just being given more

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01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: free reign now because of Trump. So keep that in

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01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: mind as a threatened journalists, attack people, create mobs on

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01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 1: the streets, and keep in mind as you see the

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Speaker 1: media covering them, because they're not just lying about anti

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01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 1: fuzz causes, lying about what anti fuzz doing. Even though

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01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: they've got all the food lines and stuff, that's still

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01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: it's more important that they're income equal. Correct, Okay, I

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01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: think they do a vake good job. Should we moder

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01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: ourselves more like apt as well? Has it become more

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01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: income equal? I think so? Yeah, I don't think so yeah,

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01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: the nomoally it will be nice, because it will be

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Speaker 1: it will be even full. I do think that was

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01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: the model after and then I do think that we

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01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: should look out what they're doing. I feel like that

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01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: would be a better plan if we all give a

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01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, um and become a little bit

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01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: more socialist. That's how we do it, you know. If

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01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: you've got to wait in line for stuff, we should

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01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: all wait in line together. Essentially, we all have less,

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01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: everybody has more. Uh. I can't think of it like that.

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01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: A lot like the rest of the world is just

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01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: a lot more dignified than us. As it fair to

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01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: say that economics reckon nic A model shouldn't be about stats,

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01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 1: but more about feelings and personal stuff. Right first, Yeah,

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01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be about stats. It should be about feelings.

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01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: That is our friend Ammi Horowitz, who is back with

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01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 1: a new video called Viva Venezuela, which focuses on liberals

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01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: love affair with socialism, including in a country in crisis

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01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: like Venezuela. He went around and interviewed hipsters here in

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01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: New York City. That's at least what's described here. I

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01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: don't know if there hipsters I'm taking his word for it,

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01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 1: but who wish America was more like Venezuela. The one

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01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: and only Ammi horror, it's everybody. I'm great to have you.

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01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure you back, thanks buck uh So. Yeah,

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01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: people now was that this is the way that you know,

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01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: if the Huffington Post got ahold of you, Ammi, they

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01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 1: would say, oh, it's so unfair. He's cherry picking. These

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01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: were the dumbest things. People said, well, what would you say?

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01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: So I would say I spoke with thirty people, thirty

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Speaker 1: people of the course the filming course today. Of those

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Speaker 1: thirty people, twenty one said we should model our economic

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01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: system more like Venezuela and less I could currently have.

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01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: And by the way you heard in the clip. But

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01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: just to underscore the point, it wasn't as if they

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01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: didn't know what's happening in Venezuela, because I explained to

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01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: them what was happening. I said, there is no they

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01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: have no ability to get to get basic necessity. There's

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01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: food lines for days, there's viols in the streets, but

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01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 1: they are more income equal because everybody has left to nothing.

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Speaker 1: After setting that up. Out of thirty still, so they

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Speaker 1: want to be more like Venezuela. And and by the

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Speaker 1: way of the nine who didn't say they want to

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Speaker 1: be like Venezuela, They said, I just don't know enough

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Speaker 1: about it. Not a single person I spoke to in

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01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: the in the East village of Manhattan said to me,

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01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: are you insane? Are you crazy? Not one person. This

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01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: is fascinating because you really have a couple of problems

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01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: colliding here. One that anyone who fancies himself for herself

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01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: even vaguely knowledgeable about what's going on in the world

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01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 1: not to understand that that Venezuela is in just a crisis,

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01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 1: an absolute death spiral as a country becoming a failed state.

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Speaker 1: That's obviously a part of this is but but you

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Speaker 1: even you know, and that would have been my first inclination.

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01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: Abb They're just there's so much ignorance about the world,

1483
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: even from people who think of themselves as worldly, right,

1484
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: that that's the big It's oh, I've got a passport,

1485
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, I went to a ruble last year, Like

1486
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 1: I know what's going on in the world. That doesn't

1487
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: out it's not that far from Venezuela. That's actually a

1488
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 1: very good point. That was the country that I just

1489
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: thought a verification because it sounds nice, but it is

1490
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: very close, very it's Southern Caribbean everyone. But the point

1491
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make is that people think of themselves

1492
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: as very worldly and don't actually know what's going on

1493
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 1: in the world. But you explain to them what's going

1494
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: on in Venezuela. But when you throw in that magic

1495
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: word equality, then all of a sudden that becomes the

1496
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: most important thing, because that this video gets the heart

1497
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: of what the left is about the left, and but

1498
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 1: it explains a lot, also explains love affair the left

1499
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 1: has with Islam and trying to protect Islam for denigration.

1500
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 1: And in the day, their ultimate value is not, uh,

1501
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: it's truly not a quality of opportunity because that by

1502
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 1: definition will have have and have nuts. It's not even

1503
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: egalitarian values that we all hold you in the West.

1504
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, the ultimate value of

1505
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: the left is equality, complete and totally equality. And you know,

1506
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 1: it's funny, there's there's there's not gonna. I'm gonna I

1507
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: know you don't know, you know, you know me and

1508
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't like being controversial, right, So I'm gonna I'm

1509
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 1: gonna say something very controversial here, you know, when you

1510
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 1: talk about um, the neo Nazis and all this kind

1511
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: of stuff. And if you want, if you ask me,

1512
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:16,560
Speaker 1: what is more dangerous to the fabric of our American society,

1513
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: of our American identity. Is it twenty thousand disgusting neo

1514
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: Nazis or is it the hard left which makes up

1515
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: millions of people in our body politics. I will tell

1516
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: you now, will tell it clearly and loudly, the greatest

1517
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 1: threat to our society is the hard left because these

1518
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: people and this is not and and again, while this

1519
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: is not a majority of young people, it is a

1520
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 1: significant minority. And they're certainly clustering around the coast. They

1521
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 1: are they do not want the US capitalist system. They

1522
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be socialist and uptifully that will lead to communism.

1523
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: But there's no question if you ask young people, all

1524
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: studies show it a plurality of millennials want socialism over capitalism.

1525
01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 1: And that's a real serious prompt for our society. Speaking

1526
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: to Ammy Horowitz about his new video Viva Venezuela, where

1527
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: can people see it? On me? You can go to

1528
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: Ammy horse dot com. You can go to my YouTube

1529
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: Bommy Horowitz. You can go to my Twitter, believe Tommy Horowitz. Um,

1530
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: you go to Foxes dot com. It's all over the place. Um.

1531
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: Noticing a pattern here, Ammy Horowitz. So there we go. Um,

1532
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 1: by the way, do you I feel like Antifa has

1533
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: got to be in your sights here for something that

1534
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 1: you might be tackling, hopefully metaphorically speaking next is that?

1535
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,759
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Man? Do you ruining my thing? Yeah? Listen,

1536
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 1: Antifa is I mean I've tangled those guys before. Uh yeah,

1537
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I actually metaphorically, I'm actually a

1538
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 1: little Yeah. You remember the occupied days. I keep telling

1539
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 1: everybody Black Block was running around like a bunch of maniacs.

1540
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 1: Then this is not new. No, this is not new that.

1541
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 1: This is just listen. The truth is it's even older

1542
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: than that. It's funny. I think our society is very interesting,

1543
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 1: how how cyclical our history is this the point of

1544
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 1: time in our story today when you look at all

1545
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: the technological disruption that we see that's really been affecting

1546
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 1: labor markets across the planet. And and that's a lot

1547
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 1: of what we see from both the antifall and left

1548
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 1: and also from the Trump movement is all coming coming

1549
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 1: from this. The truth is, if you look back into

1550
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,759
Speaker 1: turn of the century, not this century, last century, at

1551
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: the Industrial Revolution and the kind of job displacement had been,

1552
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: we had the same type of people, the same anti

1553
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 1: people that we had. We had communists, we had anarchists,

1554
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: we had we had anti technology people back then and

1555
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: and those people who all letn't loose, and it led

1556
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: to a very dark point in our history. And I

1557
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: have to tell you I'm seeing a lot of that

1558
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: same echo today as we did over a hundred years ago.

1559
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 1: And I hate to say if I think we're heading

1560
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 1: toward a very dark place if we don't get a

1561
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: handle of this thing now, Army Horrors, everybody check out

1562
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: his latest video. It is called Viva la Venezuela and

1563
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 1: you can go to Army horwords dot com to see more.

1564
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: Army Uh. Great to have you all, men, Stay safe

1565
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: and come back with your next project, whatever it may be.

1566
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, buddy, So team, there you have it.

1567
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: You know, this is somebody who also has seen what

1568
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: it's like to deal with the black block in the past,

1569
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 1: and but that that he's walking around and asking people

1570
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 1: about Venezuela and that they're so willing to excuse almost

1571
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: anything that's going on that country as long as the

1572
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 1: buzzword equality or a more a more equal economy is

1573
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 1: that phrases trotted out. That tells you so much about

1574
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,600
Speaker 1: what's going on right now with this movement of the

1575
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: American left, and what kids are learning in school and

1576
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 1: what people adults, college age people, what they're not learning.

1577
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:38,639
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't know what socialism is. They don't

1578
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: even understand the history. They don't understand the ideology. They

1579
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 1: just know equality, equality, equality, and that my friends can

1580
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: be dangerous. Team Buck is back with you now. And

1581
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 1: I saw this study. And you know, there are these

1582
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: medical studies that come out and you automatically latch out

1583
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 1: of them because they reinforce some notion you have of

1584
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 1: yourself or of other people. In other there's medical studies

1585
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:04,640
Speaker 1: that say everything right. Medical studies tell you milk is

1586
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 1: good for you, tells you milk is bad for you.

1587
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: It tells you that you know secondhand smoke will kill you.

1588
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: Second hand smoke is actually not that big a deal.

1589
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 1: I mean, there's all these different studies, and some of

1590
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 1: them get pretty out there in terms of what they're

1591
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: looking at. But this one comes courtesy of the Daily Mail,

1592
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 1: and it talks about a University of Rochester study which

1593
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 1: says that that's swearing. Well, actually a few things are

1594
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 1: linked to intelligence. Swearing, eating spicy breakfasts and lounging around

1595
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: the house naked. Now, I will tell you that that

1596
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 1: last one in particular surprise me. But two out of

1597
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 1: three ain't bad. I am somebody who enjoys in my

1598
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 1: private personal life for just when I'm not on air

1599
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: as a as a broadcast professional, salty language. I think

1600
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: salty language is necessary. I I don't use it in

1601
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 1: front of children. I don't use it in business settings

1602
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: or in front of people whom I am engaged in

1603
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 1: work with. But in terms of my private or social life,

1604
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 1: occasionally you gotta you gotta drop some verbal bombs here

1605
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:15,959
Speaker 1: and there if you want your point to come across

1606
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 1: to its fullest. Profanity has a place in language. That's

1607
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. According to this study, And a lot

1608
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 1: of you are like blank, yeah, buck, But according to

1609
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 1: this study, profanity usage is length to a level of intelligence.

1610
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 1: Eating a spicy breakfast. I will say that that one

1611
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: caught me somewhat by surprise, but I'm happy to say

1612
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: that among my favorite Among my favorite breakfast is something

1613
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 1: that I took from a little cafe up near me.

1614
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 1: They call it the Upstate Rather which I'll talk to

1615
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: you more about up State in a second. They call

1616
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 1: it the spicy Moo like Moo Cow, and it's scrambled

1617
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 1: eggs on a I believe that they do it on

1618
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 1: anylish muffin with hot sauce, and I have now taken

1619
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 1: this and elevated it to a breakfast a culinary art

1620
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 1: form of its own. But hot sauce on eggs in

1621
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 1: the morning is amazing and apparently, according to this study

1622
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 1: from University Rochester, means you're smart. So that's right. Gotta

1623
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 1: let that hot sauce do the talking for you. Sometimes

1624
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 1: it's a spicy and then the last thing lounging around naked. Now,

1625
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 1: to be fair, I live in New York City. If

1626
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 1: I were to spend time walking around san's clothing, uh,

1627
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:36,679
Speaker 1: it will be putting on a show for the neighbors

1628
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 1: that they don't want to see. So I'm I'm not

1629
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 1: somebody whoever spends any time walking around the I have

1630
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 1: many pairs of oversized champion shorts that that's really my

1631
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 1: go to or sweatpants. But I wear shorts or sweatpants

1632
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: around the house all the time. I'm not somebody who

1633
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 1: goes uh oh nacheral in the buff. I think it's

1634
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 1: also said but that if you are now somebody listening

1635
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 1: to this show and you enjoy cursing while you douse

1636
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 1: your eggs and hot sauce, totally naked on your couch

1637
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 1: while you watch, you know, Good Morning America or whatever

1638
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 1: it is you watch Fox and Friends, whatever show that

1639
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: you know you prefer on the morning. This study at Rochester,

1640
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 1: apparently a real scientific study, says that that is in

1641
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 1: fact linked with higher levels of intelligence. So if you're naked,

1642
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:30,320
Speaker 1: eating spicy stuff and swearing up a storm, you're smarty pants.

1643
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 1: Who knew? Right there you go? Sometimes you read some

1644
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 1: fun stuff here. Also, extroverts were more likely to drive

1645
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 1: their cars faster and gamble, but that's not a surprise

1646
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:44,879
Speaker 1: to anybody. Buck Sexton here with you now, team. I

1647
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 1: spend some time with family over the weekend, which was

1648
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 1: always great. I was at my parents place in upstate

1649
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 1: New York, which for real upstate New Yorkers they would

1650
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 1: just say that I was had essentially a far suburb

1651
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: of New York City, because two hours from New York

1652
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: is not really upstate. Uh, they would think that it

1653
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,600
Speaker 1: has to be close to the border with Canada, you know,

1654
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 1: once you get up there by the St. Lawrence River,

1655
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 1: and that's that's upstate. But my parents place has what

1656
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 1: all of you are I'm sure listening to or at

1657
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 1: least most of you are very familiar with grass and trees,

1658
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 1: places where animals live that do not involve either pigeons, rats,

1659
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: or squirrels, pretty much what you get here in New

1660
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 1: York City. So oh, we have upstate. Parents have. It's

1661
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: in the Hudson Valley as their place, and they have

1662
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff out there. Coyotes, black bears, my

1663
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 1: mom seeing black bears. I've seen the coyotes, foxes all

1664
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 1: over the place, wild turkeys everywhere, incredible birds. My mom

1665
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: saw a bald eagle land in our back field last

1666
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 1: week and feed on some carrion eagle similar freedom eating

1667
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:02,719
Speaker 1: dead things. Uh. And there was yeah, and there's also

1668
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 1: a lot of bluebirds because my dad has made it

1669
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: a special point to put up bluebird houses and to

1670
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 1: do everything in his power to make sure there's nice

1671
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 1: places for bluebirds to live. Black capped chicken ease, uh, swallows, goldfinches, amazing,

1672
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: amazing songbirds you have up in the Hudson Valley area.

1673
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,599
Speaker 1: And crows, which, for those of you who don't know,

1674
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: a group of crows is called a murder of crows.

1675
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 1: And they are fascinating animals with much greater capabilities to

1676
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 1: process information and share information amongst each other than I

1677
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 1: think most people would realize. Crows have facial recognition. They

1678
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 1: can tell different people. Uh. They've done studies about this,

1679
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 1: and I know it sounds crazy, but crows are very intelligent. Uh.

1680
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: And they also can I've seen videos of this. They

1681
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 1: can gang up in a murder or a murder of

1682
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 1: crows a pack and take on large raptors and push

1683
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 1: them out of their territory. So anyway, I was up

1684
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,759
Speaker 1: there for the weekend and decided that I would watch

1685
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 1: the Mayweather McGregor fight, which, as you know, Mayweather pretty

1686
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 1: handily won, although went ten out of twelve rounds. And

1687
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,679
Speaker 1: I was just reminded watching this because it was billed,

1688
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:24,679
Speaker 1: as you know, m M a multidisciplinary martial artists versus

1689
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Speaker 1: true boxing superstar undefeated with Mayweather, and I was thinking

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01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 1: about how growing up, martial arts was much more a

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01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 1: part of my youth then I think a lot of

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01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 1: people would ever expect. There was a period really in

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01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 1: the in the eighties and in the nineties when martial

1694
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 1: arts were really a fad in this country, and and

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01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 1: I know that that's it's still ongoing. There's a lot

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01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 1: of martial arts, but it's changed now. People people have

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01:40:55,680 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 1: a better understanding of what a real uh, of what

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01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 1: a real skill set is when it comes to both

1699
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: defending yourself and the sports that involve combatives, instead of

1700
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that we all used to see.

1701
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember watching movies and it became a

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01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 1: thing for a while that you would have these movies

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01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 1: with different styles of martial art as really the showcase

1704
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 1: for what the movie was all about. And you have

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01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: you had Steven Seagal, who made i Kido, Japanese martial

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01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 1: art a household name. Along with Steven Seagal, you had

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01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 1: a guy named Jeff Speakman in a movie that I'm

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01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 1: sure a couple of you've seen called The Perfect Weapon,

1709
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,799
Speaker 1: where he popularized kenpo, which is a style of karate.

1710
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 1: There was the Best of the Best, which was a

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01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 1: pretty cheesy but watchable movie about taekwondo and taekwondo competing

1712
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:56,640
Speaker 1: at the national level, and of course there were fights

1713
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 1: that were not on the not not in this sport

1714
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 1: side of taekwondo too, because it's a movie. Uh. And

1715
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 1: then you have Chuck Norris with his popularization of karate

1716
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 1: and martial arts and ninjitsu in some of his movies.

1717
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 1: There was Van Dam who was a well known martial

1718
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: artists best best movie was Blood Sport by far, but

1719
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: there was also Kickboxer, which is about his studying in

1720
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 1: Thailand under Mua Tai Kickboxing White Ti Kickboxing Master. And

1721
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: this is one of the one of the myths of

1722
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties was that you could study, usually

1723
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 1: with someone from the far East uh, an older gentleman

1724
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:40,600
Speaker 1: who spent a lot of time in contemplation and meditation,

1725
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 1: but when called upon an action could take on like

1726
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 1: five big, strong thugs all at once. Uh. Not not

1727
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 1: really the case in real life. I hate to break

1728
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 1: it to everyone. Unfortunately, doing lots of time of introspection

1729
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 1: and working on your breathing is great for stress relief,

1730
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:01,599
Speaker 1: but will not in fact win a bar fight for you.

1731
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:06,679
Speaker 1: But Vandam was well known for really a style of karate.

1732
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 1: He studied ballet for those who didn't know, And there

1733
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:13,839
Speaker 1: is the French martial art of Savat, which incorporates Western

1734
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 1: boxing and the kicks from ballet to form a kind

1735
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 1: of French kickboxing. It's really like it's like a yeah,

1736
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 1: it's a French kickboxing is what it is. Um which

1737
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: is pretty effective, I'm told by those who have studied

1738
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 1: it as a form of self defense. But when you're

1739
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 1: looking at what is effective versus what was what is

1740
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 1: affective today, what we see as effective versus what we

1741
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 1: were told grow from movies in the particularly eighties and

1742
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 1: nineties when I was growing up, there's quite a gulf

1743
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 1: we've gone from thinking that or or at least seeing,

1744
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,639
Speaker 1: whether you believe this or not, that fly kicks were

1745
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,719
Speaker 1: actually a really great way to go on the street

1746
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 1: to knowing that you pretty much never want to throw

1747
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 1: a fly kick, especially because if nothing else, not only

1748
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 1: are you going to miss by a mile and probably

1749
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:03,480
Speaker 1: make yourself really vulnerable, you might just rip a hamstring.

1750
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 1: So fly kicks are no good, despite what we've seen

1751
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:09,799
Speaker 1: in all the movies, unless you're a professional and martial

1752
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 1: art martial artist who's stretching for an hour a day

1753
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 1: and really knows what he's doing. But this is one

1754
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 1: of the changes that's occurred. Oh, the most interesting martial art,

1755
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 1: by the way, that I ever saw was Capauia, which

1756
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 1: I had a fascination with and about the eighth grade

1757
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 1: or right when I was starting high school. It was

1758
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 1: a Brazilian martial art that was developed by African slaves

1759
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:38,639
Speaker 1: bought too, brought to Brazil and they would they would

1760
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 1: train in Capauara because they weren't allowed to study any

1761
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, any form of self defense, and that

1762
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 1: was then a way of learning how to fight. And

1763
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 1: there were some uprisings and and later on it became

1764
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 1: associated with street thugs actually, who would carry a straight

1765
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: razor between their toes, and so it was outlawed in

1766
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 1: Brazil for a while, and then it came and back

1767
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties nineteen seventies, and believe it is

1768
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 1: believed that it made its way in some form of

1769
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:10,640
Speaker 1: the United States and was the basis for breakdancing at

1770
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 1: least that's the that's the urban legend, whether you believe

1771
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 1: it or not. But back to the different martial arts,

1772
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 1: So I would see all these movies, and you would

1773
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 1: be told that if you trained enough, you know, and

1774
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 1: you you learned the ways of the of the ancients,

1775
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 1: you'd be able to take on eight guys at once. Well,

1776
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 1: unfortunately reality intrudes into this and strength and speed and endurance.

1777
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 1: I have a whole lot more to do with who's

1778
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 1: going to win a fight, as well as the willingness

1779
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 1: to act, I mean, throwing the first punch, Unfortunately, on

1780
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 1: the street is often an indicator of who's going to

1781
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: come out on top, so to speak. So the willingness

1782
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: to use force, ort to go to force first. But also,

1783
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, this is it's just been a change in

1784
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 1: perception over time that I've had it. And I'm somebody

1785
01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 1: who dabbled a little bit here and there, mostly because

1786
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to be cool. Like my older brother, I'm

1787
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 1: somebody who dabbled in a bit of martial arts. He

1788
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:09,560
Speaker 1: studied wing chun for years. Wing chun is essentially kung fu,

1789
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 1: and it is the basis system that Bruce Lee learned

1790
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 1: before he developed j Kundo. So my older brother has

1791
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: been studying wing chung for years, but I wanted to,

1792
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, learn a little bit of this year and there.

1793
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 1: So I dabbled, I mean I'm and I mean dabbled

1794
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 1: in a bit of taekwondo some boxing growing up, which

1795
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 1: was good. Actually I did get into the ring with

1796
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 1: some people, and it's important to learn that you don't

1797
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 1: want to get punched in the face, uh, and to

1798
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: learn how to avoid that and if need be, how

1799
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:37,679
Speaker 1: to punch back. It's a good thing for kids to learn.

1800
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 1: I think wrestling as well. That if I was always

1801
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:41,760
Speaker 1: good at wrestling, and be honest with you, I was.

1802
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 1: I think because of having two brothers maybe was a

1803
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: big part of that, but I just had a natural

1804
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 1: instinct for wrestling, which came in handy and in a

1805
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 1: couple of scraps later on in life. Because it's very

1806
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 1: similar to jiu jitsu, which is grappling, and if you

1807
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 1: have a basis of wrestling, there's a lot that transfers

1808
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 1: over into jude jitsu and being able to grapple, especially

1809
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 1: in a fight where it's different, much more difficult to

1810
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,640
Speaker 1: connect with strikes than people have never been in a

1811
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 1: fight think it is. Being able to grapple and establish

1812
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 1: dominance on the ground is very important for reasons of

1813
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 1: self preservation and self defense. But I dabbled and all that.

1814
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 1: I did a little bit of kravmaga as I got older,

1815
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 1: and then even eventually as I had exposure to some

1816
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 1: folks from the Special Operations community had some edge weapons training,

1817
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 1: which is also eye opening because there's a bit of

1818
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:40,799
Speaker 1: anatomy that you come to learn when you're really studying

1819
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: edged weapons, and you realize you never want to be

1820
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 1: in a fight with somebody who has a knife, and

1821
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 1: you never want to have to use a knife on

1822
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 1: anybody else. It is very clinical. So I have been

1823
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:56,719
Speaker 1: somebody who grew up watching all these martial arts movies

1824
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,679
Speaker 1: and have just seen the transformation. And now there's such

1825
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 1: a great or public understanding and awareness of what's realistic

1826
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:06,719
Speaker 1: and what's not. And this idea that you're just gonna

1827
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: be a karate master and beat up ten guys. Sure

1828
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 1: in movies like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, that's very stylized,

1829
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 1: and I can accept that, and and more historical pieces

1830
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 1: about Samurais and such I can get. I can understand that.

1831
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 1: But you know this, the movies were for a while. Hey,

1832
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna take some college kid from like Pasadena, California,

1833
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 1: and he's gonna hang out with some guy from Asia

1834
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 1: who's going to train him to be a ninja who

1835
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 1: can beat up a lot of people. That's just not

1836
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 1: how it works in real life. And and really from

1837
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 1: a self defense perspective, uh well, m m A is

1838
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 1: a sport, but it's also those guys can defend themselves

1839
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 1: incredibly well and are really you know, our our weaponized hands,

1840
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:49,639
Speaker 1: feet and kneesh. So m m A is very effective.

1841
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 1: Boxing just learning how to throw and take a punch

1842
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 1: is a very effective means of learning a bit of

1843
01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 1: self defense. Uh krabl mcguy, I thought was pretty good,

1844
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 1: but I have to say that taekwondo. I even did

1845
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 1: some tai chi that was build initially a self defense,

1846
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: and let me tell you that was not going to

1847
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 1: defend me from squat. So there's a huge variation in

1848
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 1: capauara I learned. I took some classes. I learned to

1849
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,719
Speaker 1: uh stand on my head and for a while walk

1850
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 1: on my hands. But I'm not about to do a

1851
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:25,680
Speaker 1: back flip into a cart wheel into a spin kick

1852
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 1: anytime soon, not much, I can promise you. So some

1853
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 1: of these things are much more effective than others. And

1854
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: with Mayweather and McGregor, what you saw was that you

1855
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:38,919
Speaker 1: can have to combatants who are fighters. But the difference

1856
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: in the sport is that in boxing, obviously there's a

1857
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 1: limitation on what you can use, can't use knees, can't

1858
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 1: use kicks, and can't track tackle somebody to ground. It's

1859
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 1: a different skill set. And so even somebody as uh

1860
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: who does as much cross training as McGregor, was at

1861
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 1: such a disadvantage against Mayweather because in that realm, literally

1862
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 1: in that arena, um, that's that's what Mayweather has been

1863
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 1: doing his whole life. And I think it would have

1864
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 1: been a very different situation if you had those two

1865
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 1: guys with lightweight gloves or no gloves and just you know,

1866
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 1: fight and whoever gets knocked out or submits first is

1867
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 1: you know that that's how the fight ends. Um. But

1868
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 1: that's not what ha happened. It was a professional boxing match.

1869
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 1: There was a lot of clinching, a lot of uh,

1870
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:23,839
Speaker 1: point for point and it's people call it the sweet science,

1871
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:25,600
Speaker 1: and watching it, I kind of got an understanding of

1872
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,680
Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't watch much boxing as to why that

1873
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 1: is the case. But my my sense of martial arts

1874
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:36,560
Speaker 1: has transformed dramatically. I can tell you that, and I

1875
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 1: would much rather have you know. The bottom line is,

1876
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be the bar fight, you want Tim

1877
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 1: Kennedy with you, you don't want Mr Miyagi. Okay. That's

1878
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 1: that's all I'm gonna say. That's that's really what what

1879
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 1: I've learned from from life and seeing how this actually

1880
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 1: plays out. Um alright, Team as always, great to have

1881
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,480
Speaker 1: you here on the show. Thank you so much for

1882
01:50:56,479 --> 01:51:00,599
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