1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate you all being here with us. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Clay is out today. He is doing fancy things. That's 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Mara Lago Trump's Southern White House if you will, as 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: a Southern command for the Trump administration, and he'll be 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: back with us tomorrow. He sends you all his warmest regards, 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: of course, So it's just going to be me today, 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: which is interesting timing because Manufacturing Delusion is my book 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: and it came out yesterday and already, my friends, it 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: is rocketing up the charts because of all of you. 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: I am deeply gratified, grateful and humbled. But I need 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: those of you who are hearing this for the first time, 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: or have been busy or haven't had a chance yet 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: get your copy. I am in a head to head 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: struggle with anti Trump lunatic eachim who now used to 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: write history books now writes books about how Trump is 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: destroying the Republic. So yeah, we have to beat them, 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: have to beat the big lib offering this week, and 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: I need your help to do it. Otherwise the Smug 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: Morning Joe Table will be high fiving them for the 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: number one New York Times bestseller next week. We cannot 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: allow that. We cannot have it. I need you to 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: mount up get a copy of Manufacturing Delusion. It is, 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: as people are finding when I talk to them in 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: various interviews about the book, very topical. It is about 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: political madness. The Democrat Party, I would argue, has been 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: seized by political madness for years now. They are, in fact, 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: in the grips of continuous but shifting mass hysteria. Sometimes 29 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: it's climate change, sometimes it's BLMS, sometimes it's COVID, and 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: this is something. And obviously the transgender issue and the 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: transgender mass shootings that we've seen the last week bring 32 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: this to the forefront. It is time that we call 33 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: this what it is. It is massed illusion. And it 34 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: is only possible because there are tactics of mind control 35 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: that are being deployed against these individuals, and then en 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: mass they all come together and this is what ends 37 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: up happening. So this is why Manufacturing Delusion is such 38 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: an important book and I really need you to go 39 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: get a copy of it today. And I am going 40 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: to shamelessly plug it throughout the show because I wrote it, 41 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: I care about it. It matters. Also some cool CIA 42 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: stories in there, and stuff from the NYPD when I 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: was there. So things I've never written about or talked 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: about before, even if you've listened to me for fifteen years. 45 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: There are things in this book, some reminiscences that I 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: have that you will have never heard or you know, 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: I've never talked about before. And yeah, some stuff I 48 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: did in Rock which you may find really interesting. Some 49 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: stuff I did in Afghanistan. So go get your copy today. 50 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: All right, now, I said mass illusion in the grip 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: of mass illusion democrats, that is certainly the case for them, 52 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: and we get Mamdaniism already on full display. Now I 53 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: get that for a lot of you, there's going to 54 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: be this feeling of schadenfreude. You're going to feel like, 55 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: you know, New York voted for this, New York gets 56 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: what it deserves. This is obviously Clay's point of view 57 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: on this. And this is something that you think doesn't 58 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: concern you. Here's why I think it does. It concerns 59 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: all of us. In the same way that Venezuela is 60 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: a cautionary tale as a nation state for the rest 61 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: of the world. When you put social justice above actual justice, 62 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: and private property rights and capitalism and individual individual rights. 63 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: All this the situation in New York City is, unfortunately, 64 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: I think, going to be something of a lesson for 65 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: the rest of the country and what happens when you 66 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: put a totally unqualified individual in charge of America's premier city, 67 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: and what are the sorts of things that he does 68 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: as a result. This is not somebody with any history 69 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: of management experience, This is not somebody with any policy 70 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: expertise per se. He knows how to sound charming to 71 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: people while he tells them, while he tells the ignorant 72 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: and the resentful what they want to hear, and smiles 73 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: while he does it. And that was apparently enough enough 74 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: to become mayor of New York. Now, you might point 75 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: out that's more than Deblasio brought to the table, who 76 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: was just a Democrat machine thug. And it's more than 77 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: Eric Adams brought to the table, who tried to make 78 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: the city better but really failed. I think it was 79 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: at best treading water on most issues. He did say 80 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 1: the right thing on immigration, of course, the Democrats turned 81 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: on him because he did not want his city to 82 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: become a refugee camp, which is what was happening in 83 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: New York City. But Mamdani as we all warned that 84 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: this would be what starts to happen, and this is 85 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: just the early stages of this. He gave a press 86 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: conference where he announced that he is going to raise taxes. 87 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: You know what, I'll let you hear it from Kami 88 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: Mamdanni himself. This is called one play it. 89 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: A heart of this path is a property tax increase. 90 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: This would effectively be a tax on working in middle 91 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: class New Yorkers who have a median income of one 92 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two thousand dollars. The second path also 93 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: requires us to raid our reserves. It would mean with 94 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: drawing nine hundred and eighty million dollars from our city's 95 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: Rainy Day Fund in fiscal year twenty twenty six and 96 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty nine million dollars from the Retiree 97 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: Health Benefit Trust in fiscal year twenty twenty seven. These 98 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: are steps that have been taken before, but only in 99 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: moments of extraordinary external crisis. Mayor Bloomberg's response to the 100 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight financial collapse and Mayor Deblasio's response 101 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: to the enormous revenue shortfall caused by the pandemic. We 102 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: do not want to have to turn to such drastic 103 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: measures to balance our budget. 104 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to get to drastic measures. Hold on 105 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: a second, Hold on a second, Mam Donni, Mam Donnie 106 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: has proposed a preliminary budget of one hundred and twenty 107 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: seven billion dollars for New York City, one hundred and 108 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: twenty seven billion dollars. The entire state of Florida, in 109 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: which I live has a budget of one hundred and 110 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: seventeen billion dollars. So New York City eight point five 111 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: million people, Florida twenty one million people. And Mamdani wants 112 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: to spend more tax payer dollars on New York City 113 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: than my entire now home state is going to pay 114 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: for everything, everything in the every line it image in 115 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: its budget. And this is just completely insane. This is 116 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: completely nuts. And it put it in the context for 117 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: you of how nuts is this one hundred and twenty 118 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: seven billion dollar budget. You know what the budget was 119 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one high but in New York City 120 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: the budget was eighty eight billion dollars. We're talking about 121 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: roughly a fifty percent budget increase in five is called 122 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: six years. In six years, a fifty percent budget increase 123 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: for New York City, which was already a massive and 124 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: bloated budget. Now there are going to be many lessons. 125 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: I pulled the numbers here for you. In twenty twenty one, 126 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: it was eighty eight billion. In twenty two, it was 127 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: ninety eight billion. In twenty three, it was one hundred 128 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: and one billion. In twenty four. It was one hundred 129 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: and six billion. In twenty five. It was one hundred 130 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: and twelve billion. In twenty six, it was one hundred 131 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: and fifteen billion, one hundred and twenty. He wants to 132 00:07:54,760 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: jacket up twelve billion in one year, in one year 133 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: from where it's already been sky high. There's so much here. 134 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: My friends and I know we have a lot of 135 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: listeners in New York. We have fantastic WR radio listeners, 136 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: and many people listen on podcasts, and however they listen 137 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: to the show. And my family lives in Manhattan, still 138 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: half of my family, and there are unfortunately a lot 139 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: of us that sit around and just say, well, of course, 140 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: this is what's happening. We knew this was going to happen, 141 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: but it's still crazy to watch it. Unfold this way. 142 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: New York City's budget forty percent of it forty percent 143 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: is going to go to the Department of Education. New 144 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: York City's public school system is awful overall. There are 145 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: some exceptions, there are some elite schools, and the overall 146 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: New York City school system is awful. The overall spending 147 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: per pupil is above what a vast majority of private 148 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: schools across America in the same grade year would cost. 149 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I team pull for me what the per 150 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: pupil spending is going to be under this budget. I 151 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: can't do the math in my head, but I'm sure 152 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be in the thirty thousand dollars range, 153 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: maybe twenty five thousand dollars something like that, which is 154 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: just insane. Twenty six percent of this budget is going 155 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: to go to social services. A lot of that's just 156 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: kind of welfare stuff. So you're paying for a massive 157 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: education bureaucracy that fails and a welfare state. And that 158 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: is what you get for being in New York City. 159 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: That is why you have maybe second only, although with 160 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: this with the tax hike that he's talking about here, 161 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: it might be more. It's either this place or California, 162 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: and I think actually state in local New York City 163 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: is worse than any state in local burden you get 164 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: in California without taking property taxes into account, so I'd 165 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: have to do a side by comparison, But you're paying 166 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: absolutely egregious taxes in New York so that you can 167 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: have a failing education bureaucracy and a massive welfare state, 168 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: and a welfare state that, let's remember, was estimated to 169 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: be spending fourteen billion dollars a couple of years ago 170 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: on illegals on newly arrived illegals alone in the New 171 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: York City budget. There are so many lessons from this, 172 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: and so many things that we can take from this, 173 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: but a few that come to mind right away. It's 174 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: never enough money. Whatever the Mamdani's of the world, whatever 175 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: Kami Mamdani and his progressive left wing lunatic base, whatever 176 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: they want this year from the taxpayer to take. Remember, 177 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: they don't ask. They take this from you with the 178 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: force of the state. If you don't pay, they'll take 179 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: your business, they'll take your house, they'll take you to prison. 180 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: You have to pay this year whatever they want, and 181 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: then next year it will somehow be more because they 182 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: say so next year it's gonna be more, and sure enough, 183 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: it's a burden. Oh wow, it's gonna fall on on 184 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: middle class people too. Oh how many times must we 185 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: learn the lesson? How many times? But this is where 186 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: you get to the other part of it, which is 187 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: there also this kind of fiscal policy, this kind of spending, 188 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: this approach to government that Mamdani has, which is the 189 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: same for a lot of Democrats and a lot of 190 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: cities and even states. The state of California is run 191 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: with the ideology of New York City. It's the same thing. 192 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom and Mamdani really see things the same way. 193 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: They pander to the takers by scapegoating the makers. They 194 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: tell people who have resentment for whatever their financial situation is, 195 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: it's because of those rich fat cats who aren't paying enough. 196 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: The fat cats, meanwhile, are paying without the top one 197 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: percent of earners in New York City. The whole thing 198 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: is preposterous, Like, you lose fifty percent of the revenue. 199 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: One percent is paying fifty percent, but that's not enough. 200 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: And the failures of not just the failures that will 201 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: come from this tax policy, but the implementation failures that 202 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: you will see, meaning schools aren't going to get better, 203 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: streets aren't gonna get safer, The free bust thing is 204 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: never gonna happen. I mean, all these different things. It 205 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: will be blamed on the people who are paying the 206 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: taxes that are never enough and that will be wasted 207 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: by these communist fools. It's inevitable. It's inevitable. But remember, 208 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: communism is a religion. Leftist progressive political thought is a 209 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: religion replacement. It is in fact a civil or civic religion, 210 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: if you will. It is their view of themselves. They 211 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: will do things that make people poorer, that hurt the 212 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: city overall, because they say, this was also Obama. It's 213 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: the right thing to do. They have to pay more 214 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: in taxes because it's the right thing to do. If 215 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: there's less tex, if there's less money that comes into 216 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: the government coffers, if the flight of high earners hurts 217 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: the budget even more. Fine, it's the right thing to do, 218 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: they will say. Because it's about envy and resentment and 219 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: spreading the frustration of some people out and targeting others 220 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: with it. It's just neo Marxism, that's what this is. 221 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: It's neo Marxism. He's not gonna bring down the price 222 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: of anyone's apartment. The people who believe that are ignoramuses. 223 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: He's not going to bring down costs. He's gonna raise costs. 224 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: Just like we knew what they were gonna do in 225 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: Venezuela when the idiot government seized private property, seized factories, 226 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: set prices. Guess what they couldn't make washing machines at 227 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: half the price that they were being sold before the 228 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: government sees the washing machine factories. What a shock. The 229 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: lesson has not yet learned. They will never learn the 230 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: lesson though, because they don't care. They don't care. They 231 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: live in a delusion, which is why Manufacturing Delusion is 232 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: such an important book, and you need to go buy 233 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: your copy now, be armed with the arguments, understand their tactics. 234 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: Get your book today, my friends. Now take some of 235 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: your calls, get into all this. We got more on 236 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: Mamdanism Mamdaniism as well. So uh well, this is true. 237 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: They wrote this one for me. I go out of 238 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: my way to dress comfortably as I sit here in 239 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: a super soft and comfortable T shirt every day if possible. 240 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: One of the great things about my job, one of 241 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: the things I love about my life is that no 242 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: one forces me to wear a suit anymore. When I 243 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: was in the CIA, I had to show up to 244 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: the office in a suit. I wear suit to work 245 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: every day. Think about me in a suit. But I'm 246 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: all about comfort, and that's why I love Cozy Earth. 247 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: Their products are so comfortable, I mean all of them. Yeah, 248 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: the bedding is incredible, the blankets, the bubble blanket. Ginger 249 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: is kind of taking that over now. Speed and Ginger 250 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: love the bubble blanket. So does my wife. I never 251 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: get to use it now because Carrie always has me 252 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: wrap her and the baby and the dog in the 253 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: bubble blanket. But it's amazing. Cozy Earth has all this 254 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: great stuff. But if I'm dressing up a little bit, 255 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: Cozy Earth has their everyday pant and it looks like 256 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: business slacks, but it feels like athletic pants, you know. 257 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: It feels like something you could go work out. 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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton mic drops that 273 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: never sounded so good. 274 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: Find them on. 275 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: The free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 276 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Eight hundred 277 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: two A two two eight a two. Let's hear from 278 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: some New Yorkers or New York area folks about what 279 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: they think with this latest. I know people gonna say 280 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: I told you so, and we all told each other, 281 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: so this is not a surprise. This was going to happen. 282 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: But here is Mom, Donnie. If you want to talk 283 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: about this guy, he is like the quintessential student council 284 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: student council contender, you know, for school, Who's like, and 285 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to ban homework and no one's going to 286 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: have to show up on time and. 287 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna be able to just take you know, long 288 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: walks in the park in the middle of the day instead. 289 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: Of doing math homework. Okay, here is mom Donnie saying 290 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: a two percent tax on millionaires. That's all it would 291 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: take to make everything amazing for everyone. This is back 292 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: in November of last year. Play it. 293 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: I continue to think that having the top one percent 294 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: of New York City, or making more than a million 295 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: dollars a year, having them paid two percent more for 296 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: an economic agenda that would transform every New Yorker's life, 297 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: including their own, is something that is worthwhile. 298 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: How could anyone believe that this that this charlatan, which 299 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: is really I think the word for him. He's a charlatan, 300 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: he's smooth talking, he's full of bs. How could anyone 301 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: think that he will transform their life for the better. 302 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: How could anyone think that you just give this guy 303 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: more money and you will be in a place where 304 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you find yourself, you know, able, tough, 305 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: It just does not make any sense to me, my friends. 306 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: It does not make any sense why people believe this, 307 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: why p will think that somehow he is the guy. 308 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: So look, we'll continue to dive into this and more. 309 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: But look, Birch Gold, my friends, Birch Gold makes so 310 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: much sense, and owning gold is something that I want 311 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: you to consider for your four oh one K or 312 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: your IRA because it makes sense over the long term. 313 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: Birch Gold Group wants to help you transfer money into 314 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: your four oh one K or your IRA. Text my 315 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. Birch 316 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: Gold will send you a free info kit. Birch Gold Group, 317 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: my friends, this is who I trust for gold purchases. 318 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: They can help you get gold that you can hold 319 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: in your hand or keeping your safe, or transfer an 320 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: IRA or four oh one K into a goldback IRA 321 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: or four one K. Text my name Buck to ninety 322 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: eight ninety eight ninety eight today. That's text Buck to 323 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight, b U c K. 324 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We're gonna 325 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: get into your calls and some of your talkbacks coming off, 326 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: but also taking a look at where we're going later 327 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: on in the show. Want to remind you or want 328 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: to tell you that Congress and Ship Willy will be 329 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: with us. We're going to talk about the same act. 330 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about this partial government shutdown. Got 331 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: to get into the business of politics today a bit, 332 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: and we will certainly do that in some detail, because 333 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: once again the Democrats are up to what they do, 334 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: you know, the usual obstruction and misdirection, and they don't 335 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: have any Well, they can't be honest with the American 336 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: people about immigration enforcement because at the end of the day, 337 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party is an open borders party, and they 338 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: won't say that, but that is what they are. They 339 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: do not want people to be kicked out of the 340 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: country because the more people that are here, as we know, 341 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: who are illegal, the great and they tend to consolidate 342 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: in well, not all, but a lot of them are 343 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: in blue states, and they want more congressional representation, as 344 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: we know in the census, and they also want to 345 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: bring in people who will become either through amnesty or 346 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: through having children here who are then now the Supreme 347 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: Court's still looking at this issue, but having people here 348 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: who are anchor babies and then they're likely to be 349 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: raised in a household where they will view the Democrat 350 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: Party as their ally and friend because they are pro 351 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: illegal and their parents are illegals, etc. Democrats do not 352 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: want these laws to be enforced, but they do not 353 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: have the honesty with the electorate to say that, so 354 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: instead they just quibble with the tactics or the how 355 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: it's being done today. They don't want this to be done. 356 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: They oppose taking people off the streets, including people who 357 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: are public safety threats. I mean, that's the part of 358 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: this that has been so remarkable, I think, and that's 359 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 1: why the madness that we saw so much of in 360 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: Minneapolis where they were making this their big stand against 361 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: evil ice and the latest from the Trump administration. These 362 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: were targeted arrests of people that already went before a 363 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: judge have a deportation order. And the reason they went 364 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: before a judge and got the deportation order in so 365 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: many cases is because they did something really bad and 366 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: really illegal. They committed some crime in addition to their illegality, 367 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: so they can't even be in this country without breaking 368 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: additional laws, and we're not allowed to send them home. 369 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: And understand this too, they the Democrats abused the process 370 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: so much. They just they want to make it impossible 371 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: to actually send anyone home to their actual country. They 372 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: want to say that there's new evidentiary burdens, and there's 373 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, they create this endless amount of process. I'll 374 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: tell you. You know a friend of mine who worked in 375 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: the in the district attorney's office, very good friend of mine, 376 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: men years. We grew up together working district attorney's office, 377 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: and he told me want something that I just thought 378 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: was fascinating. It and really, you know, devious but clever 379 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: that the Brag administration was doing. Alvin Bragg in New 380 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: York City, from the guy the DA who brought charges 381 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: against Trump the most absurd charges imaginable. I mean, the 382 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: whole thing was, it's just preposterous, truly. But one of 383 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: the things they did was they would make these agreements 384 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: in process for the evidentiary burden. And this was because 385 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: of these far left like don don't put anyone in 386 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: prison groups that exist out there because prison is in 387 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: this country. The far left believes that prison is inherently racist, 388 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: that our justice system is racist, and therefore we really 389 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: just want to just have like no one go to 390 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: prison to the greatest degree possible, like almost nobody should 391 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: go to prison for anything. That's what the left, fundamentally, 392 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: the hard left on this issue. They don't just want 393 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: to abolish ice, they want to abolish prisons. They call 394 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: an abolition movement. This is real. Now, this is a 395 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: little more in the vanguard of the left. This isn't 396 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: something that you know you're gonna have like Chuck Schumer 397 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: coming out and saying, but they really do. At the 398 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 1: end of the day, they want to make it so 399 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: that there are very fe people will go to prison. 400 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: And so the way they did this in New York 401 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: City was they made the paperwork burden on eightya's assistant 402 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: district attorneys so high it would take so many hours 403 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: just to file the paperwork so that they could bring 404 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: charges against somebody for you know, assault with a deadly 405 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: weapon or whatever it is, that they would have to 406 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: drop a lot of cases. And this didn't understand, this 407 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: doesn't go through. It's not that that's not something that 408 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: was voted on in the State Assembly. And as I 409 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: talked about, no, no, they just DIA's office goes, all right, well, 410 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: now we have to basically fill these out in triplicate, 411 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: and it's going to take you. Instead of you know, 412 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: two hours, it'll take you six hours of filing this, 413 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: filing that, and going. So the manpower reality is that 414 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna have far fewer people prosecuted and far more 415 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: criminals unpunished. And that happened in New York City, and 416 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: that is happening in New York City under Alvin Bragg, 417 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: who just got reelected. In my dad, that's what they 418 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: want to do with immigration enforcement. But you see how 419 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: it's so dishonest. They want to say, oh, well, everyone 420 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: should just have process. But the process that they want 421 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: to have is if you happen to be one of 422 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: the people that ICE picks up, that ICE is prioritizing, 423 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: you got to go in front of a judge to fight. 424 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: Maybe you get an asylum hearing you say, oh, I 425 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: meant I want to claim defensive asylum. And then you 426 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: got to go in front of another judge and say 427 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: that ICE has treated you, and now you gotta go there. 428 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: No one gets sent home, no one gets sent back 429 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: to their actual country. That is the process that they're 430 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: trying to achieve. They're gonna lie to you about this. 431 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: I've been telling you for years that the whole asylum 432 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: things a scam. Isn't our asylum seekers if there are 433 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: asylum secrets. If hey, i'm here from you know, I'm 434 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: here from Colombia because I want to get a better 435 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: job and I want more money for my family. If 436 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: that's asylum, then we better get ready for about a 437 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: billion people to come to America because that's what we're 438 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: opening ourselves up to. That's not asylum. And also asylum 439 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: traditionally was a It's a pretty small number that we 440 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: take in an a given year. It's something fifty thousand, 441 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: thirty thousand, and it's for extreme cases, and it's just 442 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: us trying to be humanitarians. It is an act of 443 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: humanitarian charity by the American people that we even have 444 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: an asylum system, asylum process, and none of these people 445 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: who were coming in, who had been coming in for years, 446 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: are actually going to qualify for asylum the biggest way, 447 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: and I funnily enough, I had a long conversation in 448 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: the in the green room once of a TV channel 449 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: with Tom about this before he was running running ice 450 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: under Trump. I mean, the biggest thing of all that 451 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: you need to know is unless these individuals who came 452 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: in through Mexico and say that they want asylum here 453 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: unless they stopped in most likely Mexico, but even sometimes 454 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: they come from some other country on the way, maybe 455 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: they know traverse Panama or they come up through the 456 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: Darien Gap, and that unless they try to get asylum 457 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: in that country, they don't qual it. They're not allowed 458 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: to get asylum here. Because the point isn't I get 459 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: to pick. I want to be in America. That's immigration, 460 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: that's hey, we get to see if you're going to 461 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: benefit the American people. The point is, hey, we don't 462 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: want you to die or be tortured to death, or 463 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: your religion or your political beliefs or whatever it may be. 464 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: So we're going to take in some people just to 465 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: be nice, to save them because of the American people 466 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: are kind. If you didn't apply for asylum in some 467 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: other country that you were fleeing and you went through Mexico, 468 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: if you didn't apply in Mexico, you can't get it 469 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: here because you're not actually seeking safety or seeking America, 470 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: which is a different thing. And so this is why 471 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: when you oh my gosh, I had a three years. 472 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: They're part of the process. They're doing what they're supposed 473 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: to do. They're just waiting for their hearing. Like seventy 474 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: or eighty percent of these so called asylum seekers never 475 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: even show up for their hearing. So then what do 476 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: you do. Oh, well, then we got to send people 477 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: after them to arrest them and deport them. Oh it's terrible. 478 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: Look you see how the game is played. They want 479 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: the result of everyone stays, and they do not have 480 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: the honesty, They do not have the courage to tell 481 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: you that is what they want because the American people 482 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: aren't with them on that. And also that would be 483 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: an admission that our country is the sovereignty of this 484 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: nation is effectively gone, that we are the world's refugee camp, 485 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 1: soup kitchen welfare ward. That is what America has turned into, 486 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: and that is a country that is in the process 487 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: of dissolving. That's why this is so important, and that's 488 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: why I've been on Immigration has been for me, the 489 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: most important issue in America of the last decade by 490 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: far by far, and we are finally now having a 491 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: conversation around this rooted in reality. I was on the 492 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: front lines of this one, at least, debating and CNN 493 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: and these back when people actually used to like pay 494 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: attention to see and now CN ends it actually almost 495 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 1: feel I don't feel sorry for them, but if they 496 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: were nicer people over there, I could feel sorry for them. 497 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: Because the channel's become such a joke and no one watches. 498 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: It's a little sad. You want to take out a 499 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: tiny every time you see Jake Tapper on the TV screen, 500 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: you want to take out a tiny little violin. 501 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: You know. 502 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: It's so sad what has happened to that channel. But they, 503 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: of course deserve every bit of it, because they embrace dishonesty, 504 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: and they embraced the defamation not only of Donald Trump 505 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: and his supporters, but even of individuals that, as you remember, 506 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: CNN would target show up on the front lawn of 507 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: some woman and you said this on Facebook about Trump, 508 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: you realize Russian disinformation. So they've earned every bit of 509 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: the ignominious decline that they have suffered over there at CNN. 510 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: I have no issue with that whatsoever. But I remember 511 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: arguing with people about whether and this is real, about 512 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: whether walls work on the first Trump administration. That was 513 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: one of the debates that we were having. Just to 514 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: bring it all full circle, while now they're saying ice 515 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: officers need to show their faces and we need body 516 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: cameras on them, and we need it. I'm going to 517 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 1: be very clear, I'm pro body cameras for all law 518 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: enforcement all the time, to the degree that we can 519 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: do that. I mean, there's an expenditure and there's cost involved. 520 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: But I am one of the first people to say this. 521 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm not going to claim that I am the guy 522 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: who said it, but I'm one of the first people 523 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: who said body cameras effectively defeated the be BLM movement. 524 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: And now the free sharing of that footage that occurs 525 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: on x without the hand of leftist commis at Twitter 526 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: headquarters in San Francisco deciding, oh, you can't show that footage. 527 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's not allowed. Now that the body camera footage 528 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: can get out and be freely shared, yeah, BLM movement's 529 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: got a big problem BLM movements. And I would say 530 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: in this case, or rather in the cases in Minneapolis, 531 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: without the body camera footage that did get out in 532 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: those cases those instances, the situation would have been far 533 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: worse for the administration because they would have just made 534 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: up whatever narrative in the media they wanted. So I'm 535 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: pro body cameras. But note once again, the Democrats are 536 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: criticizing on process what they actually don't have the courage 537 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: to criticize on policy. They want to nitpick. They want 538 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: to say, oh, it's about this, or that they have 539 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: to do this a little differently, or whatever it may be, 540 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: just so they can make it impossible for deportations to 541 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: happen and for Trump to keep his promise to the base, 542 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: because locking down the border, that's something he was very 543 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: capable of doing and has already done. That ship has sailed. 544 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: They know that. And also, I might add, they won't 545 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: be able to have the same debate around that issue 546 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: that they've had in the past because there has been, 547 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: in my mind at least, a big shift in the 548 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: public's understanding of what is possible the border. I was 549 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: saying years ago, it's CNN. I would have an argument 550 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: of whether wall's work, and people would say things and 551 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: think themselves clever. I think even Nancy Pelosi said this 552 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: once on TV. But there are a bunch of Democrats 553 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: wh would say, you show me a ten foot wall, 554 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: I'll show you an eleven foot ladder. Now, I had 555 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: been at the border with border patrol doing ride alongs 556 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: where people had scaled defense and you know what happens. 557 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: They're slowed down, they it's clear what they're doing, and 558 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: then border patrol arrest them because it's not that they 559 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: work perfectly, but they help a whole heck of a lot. 560 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: It also slows people down in high traffic areas, usually 561 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: around cities where there's a border crossing place like al Paso, 562 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: for example. It slows them down so that you can 563 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: deploy those resources more effectively at the border. We don't 564 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: need as many people in this sector. We can put 565 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: them in because we have a wall, which frees up 566 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: manpower to make the arrest that we need to make 567 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: elsewhere along the border. So we're winning on this issue. 568 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: It's very important we're winning on this issue. The only 569 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: way that Democrats can win is to emotionalize it and 570 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: to honestly just deceive the public about what's really happening. 571 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: And this is why they're making this huge issue of 572 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: funding right now. Right now for the government. They're holding 573 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: up funding for the Coast Guard and for FEMA, and 574 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: there's somebody that's already been set aside for this, but 575 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: they have to come up with something because otherwise the 576 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: whole thing just becomes an admission that they've lied about everything 577 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: related to the border. They're wrong about everything, and the 578 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: American people are not with them, and that's a tough 579 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: thing to carry into into a midterm election. It really is. 580 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: We can only hope, all right. 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And in the meantime, I want 609 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: to take your your calls, your talkbacks and all of 610 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: that good stuff we have. Chris and Maine. Do we 611 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: still have mister Chris in Maine. Let's hear from mister 612 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: christ and Maine. 613 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: You're up, sir, urs on the immigration piece is you 614 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: could build as many walls, as big a wall as 615 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 3: you want, you can get as many ice agents as 616 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 3: you want. You can even start passing legislation as far 617 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 3: as the immigration is concerned. But until we change the 618 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 3: incentive until we take away the money, people are going 619 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 3: to continue to come. There's always the incentive for them 620 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: to come here. So all these reactive things that we're doing, 621 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 3: it's not going to stop the problem that we have. 622 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 3: We haven't been proactive. 623 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: I think you're correct and that that has to be 624 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: a part of the overall approach. I mean, stopping people 625 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: from coming in certainly helps. Deporting people who are here helps, 626 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: But to turn off the magnet that is that's a 627 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: fundamental issue of our immigration and that goes then to 628 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: workplace enforcements, which is a whole other part of this 629 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: that even a lot of Republicans get very squishy on 630 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: all of a sudden. But this idea that you can take, 631 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the H one B scam has been 632 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: exposed now after years of people saying it's only the 633 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 1: best and the brightest in the H one B program. 634 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: That's a lie. It's an end run. It allows people 635 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: to skip to the front of the line for permanent 636 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: status here while getting underpaid in their specific industry. We 637 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: all see the scam. There's a lot of scams that 638 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: are a run on immigration and people look, they hire 639 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: illegals and a lot of these factories and stuff, because 640 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: they can pay them below market wages and they can 641 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: assume that the government's going to make up the shortfall 642 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: by giving them welfare and all these other things. And 643 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: that's just not right. It's not right. It's actually against 644 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: the law. We don't even have to pass a law 645 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: that says don't do this. It's already against the law. 646 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: But people just don't want to enforce that law. Well, 647 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: we should either rescind that and live in the honest 648 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: world of we you know, we're open borders, or enforce 649 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: at workplaces as well. So more on that coming up.