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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to me naughty but Nicia. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Rob shoot here on It's Thursday, which means our dear

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Speaker 1: friend Mark Lupa joins us.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Loopy are you there? Loopy lewis here?

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Right, hey, Loopy. I haven't seen you in person for

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Speaker 2: so long.

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Speaker 1: We are well overdue for a boozy night of body nose.

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Speaker 3: I was hoping I when I see you out last night,

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Speaker 3: but you had other friends.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's be clear. Last night, Mark and I we

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Speaker 1: get invited to some fabulous events and we sort of

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Speaker 1: run in the same circles. There's about one hundred of

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Speaker 1: us in New York, so we always go to the

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Speaker 1: same parties. And a friend of ours, Damien, had an

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Speaker 1: event last night. I was not invited. At first, I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, how rude. Then I actually looked in

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Speaker 1: my invite and I saw it sitting there and I

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Speaker 1: hadn't responded. And the reason I didn't respond it was nice,

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Speaker 1: not exactly a night at a new club, a new bar,

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Speaker 1: a new cabaret. Ven you know, it was a meditation

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Speaker 3: It was a little bit of.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine how I would have upset that class.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the meditational type.

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Speaker 3: No, you were not were loud and loud?

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Speaker 1: I mean you would be the back horse in trouble.

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Speaker 1: So Damian, I hope you had a fabulous event. Next

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Speaker 1: time maybe I'll come. Okay, let's get into the show.

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Speaker 1: Great stories today. What time is it, my friends? It

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Speaker 1: is tea time. This story's Wildmark. So Jennifer Gardner, Ben's

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Speaker 1: ex wife. I like her a lot. She's encouraging Ben

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Speaker 1: to stick with it with j Lo, to work through

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Speaker 1: your marriage troubles. Now there's reporting him US Weekly that

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Speaker 1: wants nothing more than him to be happy. Now, my

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Speaker 1: sources are saying that is true. However, Jena doesn't want

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Speaker 1: the bad Penny back. So the reason he's supporting Jennifer

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Speaker 1: Lopez is that if Jennifer Lopez goes away, guess whose

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Speaker 1: problem bed becomes again hers. She's not his wife anymore.

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Speaker 1: She's put this disaster into a little box, put a

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Speaker 1: bow on it, and handed it to Jlo. It's your

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Speaker 1: kids together, so he's always going to be in her life,

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Speaker 1: and they do get a longish although he has said

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Speaker 1: some mean things about his ex wife, but she doesn't

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Speaker 1: want him back. And if he leaves Jelo, where's he

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Speaker 1: going to end up? Whose doorbells he get a ring,

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Speaker 1: two suitcases in his hands, It's going to be Jennifer Gardner.

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Speaker 1: So Jennifer's protecting herself here. It's a fascinating story.

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Speaker 2: What do you think.

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Speaker 3: All I can think about it is that image of

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Speaker 3: Jennifer Gardner bringing Ben to the Jack in the box

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Speaker 3: before he went to rehab. Yeah, it's like she became

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Speaker 3: his parent, and so when you become that, it's like

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Speaker 3: it's while she cares for him because he is the

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Speaker 3: father of their children. She's not trying to be this

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Speaker 3: like you know guardian. In a way, she has her

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Speaker 3: own life. She's moved on to a different partner, and

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Speaker 3: she's moved on in her life completely. And I feel like,

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Speaker 3: you know, it really is now j Lo. It's for

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Speaker 2: To you know, you bought it, you broke it. I

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Speaker 1: Problem that that's interesting what you said about being his mother.

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Speaker 1: Sources of mine who know Gardener. There's two Jennifers here,

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Speaker 1: so we have to be careful how we say their names.

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Speaker 1: So Jennifer Gardener, people that know her told me that's

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Speaker 1: why their marriage ended. She became his mom. They were

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Speaker 1: one another. He was a big baby, and she didn't

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Speaker 1: Now it's on Jennifer's hands, and Jennifer doesn't tolerate this

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Speaker 1: like Jennifer Gardener, like Jennifer Garden was, so I like

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Speaker 1: that she's encouraging him to stay. I think the reporting

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Speaker 1: in US Weekly is spot on. There is kindness there.

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Speaker 1: Ben gonna go? Matt Damon don't want him? Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine that? Jason Bourne, Hello, I'm here, Can I sleep.

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Speaker 2: On the couch? I don't wonder where is he going

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Speaker 1: His mother's in La too. That's not a good sign.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that Ben's mom has turned up in

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Speaker 1: They're waiting for the right moment to announce it. I'm

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Speaker 1: Loo's publicist when she first dated Ben. That relationship was

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Speaker 1: over for a good month before we announced it. We

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Speaker 1: Come on, if you moved out, it's over. You don't

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Speaker 1: out at the end. So when you first have trouble

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Speaker 1: that's the end. That's not the beginning, which brings us

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Speaker 1: to our whole question of the day. Jennifer Garner is

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Speaker 1: encouraging Ben to work things out. I bet she is

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Speaker 1: with Jennifer Lopez. Should Jennifer Garner get involved? This is tricky,

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Speaker 1: isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Your ex?

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Speaker 1: It is your ex, Butody also too, is the father

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Speaker 1: of your children. So I think if the kids weren't

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Gardner would have had a clean break, would have

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Speaker 2: Should she get involved? Yes or no? Hey?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Loopy, why are you aging on?

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Speaker 3: I got a good one for you, Rob. So Kelly

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Speaker 3: Osborne is dissing her former Fashion Police co host Julian

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Speaker 3: Oransik makes them what's going on here? So? Kelly Osborne

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Speaker 3: had some choice words for her former Fashion Police co host,

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Speaker 3: Julian Uran Sick during Tuesday's episode of for her family's

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Speaker 3: The Osbourne's podcast. She said, we don't need to give

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Speaker 3: her any effing thing, Osborne said of Rantick after her mom,

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Speaker 3: Sharon Osborne mentioned the entertainment reporter Rob. The conversationships when

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Speaker 3: Kelly's brother Jack Osborne and their father Ozzy Osbourne brought

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Speaker 3: up the controversy from twenty fifteen when Kelly was wrongly

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Speaker 2: That's right, I remember that, but.

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Speaker 3: In reality it was Rantic committed the remark saying the

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Speaker 3: Dune stars smelled like.

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Speaker 2: Oil and wheat.

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Speaker 1: Fortunate think a bad thing to say. And that was

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Speaker 1: before and Aa was a big star. So she picked

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Speaker 1: the wrong person to go after there. I've known Juliana

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Speaker 1: Ransick for twenty years. I really like her. I think

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Speaker 2: But why did she step away from this?

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Speaker 1: She was like one of the biggest entertainment reporters in

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Speaker 1: the world, her and Ryan Secrets. Remember when E News

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Speaker 1: was really powerful and they did all the red carpets

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Speaker 1: and then the fashion police.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about this one.

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Speaker 1: I did hit the phones, you know who I am,

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Speaker 1: and I spoke to some friends of Juliana and they

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Speaker 1: told me Kelly's just an angry girl. They said that

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Speaker 1: everyone she's worked with she fell out with. And they

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Speaker 1: said that she never really got the job because of

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Speaker 1: any talent. She got it because of who her family is.

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Speaker 1: And it's no surprise now that she's trashing her with

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Speaker 1: nobody cares about Kelly. I wouldn't go that far. Kelly

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Speaker 1: has made a name for herself now, she's definitely her

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Speaker 1: own celebrity. But this is not a good look, and

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Speaker 1: it all seems to be about that remark. I do

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Speaker 1: remember at the time Kelly sort of been blamed. But

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Speaker 1: if my recollection's write Mark, we all knew it was

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Speaker 1: Juliana that said this. We watched it, We saw the

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Speaker 1: a really bad hit for saying this stupid thing. So

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Speaker 1: Kelly was involved because she was around the table. But

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Speaker 1: let me say I thought Kelly was involved in the

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Speaker 2: She was there.

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Speaker 1: She didn't stop it, she laughed, she encouraged it. So

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Speaker 1: I think, Kelly, you're not completely innocent here. She didn't

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Speaker 1: That's racist? Or you shouldn't say that. She giggled. And

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Speaker 1: so is that Billy Bush thing? Is it called enabling?

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Speaker 1: I think that's the word for it.

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Speaker 3: Kelly had her own kind of mishap on the View

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Speaker 3: years ago, and she did when she mentioned Latino people

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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting that she's kind of shifting this

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Speaker 3: attention back onto Juliana, someone we haven't heard from in

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Speaker 3: a long while. And I think now Kelly has just

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Speaker 3: sick of of hearing from, and it's just become very negative.

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Speaker 1: It is, isn't it, Yea, If you're gonna be a

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Speaker 1: NEPO baby, be a positive one.

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Speaker 2: That's what I say.

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Speaker 1: Okay, moving along a lippery dirt is revealed what Kelly

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Speaker 1: Ruland said to the security guard she's scolded on the

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Speaker 1: red carpet at cart And So Kelly is at the

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Speaker 1: Calm Film Festival.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been?

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Speaker 1: Mark? I went twice and it's really fun and glamorous

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Speaker 1: and yachts and champagne. Have you ever been?

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Speaker 3: I'm dying to go, but I have not.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you would love it. It is glamorous. It's one

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Speaker 1: I went with Naomi Campbell and we stayed on a

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Speaker 1: yacht for a mark that life. Have no business living

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Speaker 1: this life well. In any case, Kelly's out there living

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Speaker 1: it up too, and she got into a fight, a

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Speaker 1: disagreement on the red carpet where she's scolded scolded a

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Speaker 1: security guard. It doesn't look good now. A lip reader

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Speaker 1: is telling our friend Nicki Gostin, I see you Nikia Looloolo.

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Speaker 1: At page six, she is saying Kelly said the following quote,

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Speaker 1: don't talk to me like that. Don't talk to me

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Speaker 1: like that. You're not my mother. I told you not

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Speaker 1: to talk to me like that. Now we don't know

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Speaker 1: specifically what happened on the carpet. There are some reports

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Speaker 1: that the security guard accidentally stepped on her train on

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Speaker 1: her dress, never a good thing. There's other reports that

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Speaker 1: the security guard was really rushing her along. There's a

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Speaker 1: you've been to a red carpet, Mark, I know you've

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Speaker 1: been to lots and worked lots of them.

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Speaker 1: Oh, big drama about the Elvis Presley estate, Graceland. It

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Speaker 1: It's the nicest of the day, which I've just teased Mark,

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Speaker 1: Trick is a code word we use on the show

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