1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,519 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: app Coming up later on Donald Trump made billions of 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: dollars today for doing doing absolutely nothing. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Just made billions of dollars. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to explain this first day of trading of 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: his new public company, Truth Social, the stock Well, I 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: don't know what it is this moment, but this morning 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: it was. It was skyrocketing and he's made. They thought 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: he was gonna make three billion dollars and couldn't be 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: five billion dollars. 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll talk about that. 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: Coming up now, we are going to talk to producer 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: Nicole Rittenmeyer. She has a four part docu series debuting 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: on Fox Nation, that is Fox's streaming service, and it's 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: called Menendez Brothers Victims or Villains and I'm in it 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: and it's a look back at the Menendez brother's case 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: from the early nineteen nineties. There was a para trials, 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: first one hung, second one. They were found guilty and 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: sentenced to life in prison over blowing the heads off 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: their parents back in nineteen eighty nine, when these two 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: guys were eighteen and twenty one years old and virtually 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: everybody agrees that they did it, but over time more 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: people warmed to the abuse excuse that Jose the dad, 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: sexually abused the boys so much that this was almost 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: a natural reaction. They were psychologically forced to retaliate with 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: these murders. Let's get to Nicole on Nicole, Hey, how 28 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: are you? 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: I'm great? How are you? 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: I am wonderful? 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: Tell us what the overall angle of this docu series is, 32 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: because you have a bit of a difficult job here 33 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: in that you know this thirty five years ago, and 34 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 2: obviously people's outlook has changed regarding sexual abuse, and there's 35 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 2: also a whole generation that are not really familiar with 36 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: the Menendez brothers. So this this really is a great 37 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: story on how much culturally the country has changed regarding 38 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: these kinds of relationships. 39 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: Honestly, that actually is the angle. When Fox came to 40 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 4: me and said, hey, you know I've worked with them 41 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 4: before and they said, hey, we walk from a Menendez 42 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: I was like, Honestly, my initial reaction was, what the 43 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 4: hell is there left to say? Because it has been 44 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 4: just done over and over and over. I mean, just 45 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 4: google Menendos Brothers documentary and you will see five in 46 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: the last year. So the challenge for me to kind 47 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 4: of keep it interesting for myself was what is the 48 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: fresh angle? And I think it was we sort of 49 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: took a step back and rather than pour over it 50 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 4: sort of piece. 51 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 3: Of evidence by piece of evidence, because, like you said, 52 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: we know who did it. 53 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 4: They went into the trial saying they did it, So 54 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 4: that didn't seem particularly interesting. It was more how the 55 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: perspective on it has shifted. Culture has changed completely around 56 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: this case, and that seemed like a more interesting story. 57 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: So that's the one we told. 58 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: What was there. 59 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: I guess there was some sympathy for the Menentdus brothers 60 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: because the first trial was hung, but the second trial 61 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: obviously was a guilty conviction, so it seemed to be 62 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: bubbling up a little bit. But now I almost get 63 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: the feeling that if they had the trial, they might 64 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: get off. 65 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really interesting you know, I'll be honest 66 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 4: with you, from from what. 67 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: We looked at. 68 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: And thanks again to you and to KFI for really 69 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: kind of the John Ken Show for sort of providing 70 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: a window into the way people really felt about that 71 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: case as it was going down. 72 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how much sympathy there was at the time. 73 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: To be honest, I think it was more there. 74 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: Was so much evidence offered in the first trial that 75 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 4: made that was overwhelming that they had been abused. Now, 76 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: whether or not you thought that was justification to kill your. 77 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: Parents was really the crux of it. 78 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 4: And that's why the jury kind of split down the middle. 79 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 4: Either either you believe that's that kind of abuse is 80 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: justification for murder, or yet know and that's why. 81 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: The jury hung. 82 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: The second trial was one where none of or other 83 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 4: than the boys' testimony and actually it was only Eric 84 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 4: who testified. In the second trial, there was no evidence. 85 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 4: The same judge did not allow evidence of the abuse, 86 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: and that's how you end up with a murder verdict. 87 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: I do think that, as you say, given the way 88 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 4: culture has shifted and values have shifted, and you know, 89 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 4: to be honest, we know a lot more about the 90 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: impact of trauma on children's brains. I don't know that 91 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 4: they would have gotten off. I don't know that they 92 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 4: you know, who knows what what defense their lawyers would 93 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: have would have gone for, but I certainly think they 94 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 4: would have gotten a manslaughter and not a murder voted. 95 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they didn't use that excuse right away. 96 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: I mean, didn't they first claim that their parents were 97 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: rubbed out in an organized crime. 98 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Attack. 99 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: That's right. 100 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: It wasn't until there was about three years between the 101 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 4: arrest and the and it went to trial the first time. 102 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: And I think there was about six months maybe nine, no, 103 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 4: six months between the murders and when they were arrested. 104 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 4: And originally, yeah, they were trying to tell people that, oh, 105 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 4: it was probably organized crime. 106 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: It wasn't, of. 107 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 4: Course, until the lawyers got involved and the psychiatrists got 108 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 4: involved that they actually didn't even divulge that they had 109 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: been abused for years. So it was a pretty closely 110 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 4: kept secret. 111 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's why a lot of people 112 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: at the time I just didn't buy into the abuse 113 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: excuse because it didn't come out immediately. It seemed like 114 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: they were turning to Plan B or Plan C, trying 115 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: to figure a way to get out of trouble. 116 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's exactly right. 117 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: So so to I almost said viewers, but you know, 118 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: to people sort of living through it at the time, 119 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: particularly in Los Angeles, it was sort of like, well, 120 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: where did this come from? One thing I think is 121 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: interesting is with the exception of like one or two 122 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: of something like thirty five family members. 123 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: Almost all of. 124 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 4: The Menendez family members, both Kitty and Kitty and h Side, 125 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 4: support the brothers and believe that they were abused. So 126 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 4: that seems, and many of them testified in the first trial. 127 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: How many people knew about the abuse at the time 128 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: in the family or among friends or acquaintances. Did the 129 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: Menendez brothers tell anybody anything? 130 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: They did? 131 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: They did? 132 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: In fact, in the first trial, two cousins testified. Diane, 133 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: her maid name was Vandermullen. I believe she testified and 134 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: said that Lyle had come to her when it was 135 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: when he was eight years old and said that his 136 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 4: father was touching him inappropriately. She went to Kitty and 137 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: nothing ever happened after that. And Eric's Eric and cousin 138 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 4: Andy Cano, who was about their age. Jose's sisters so 139 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: told him, testified at trial that Eric had told him 140 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: that his father was touching him when they were like 141 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: nine or ten, swore him to secrecy. So that did 142 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: come out in the first trial. One of the things 143 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 4: that is is sort of new evidence now. A letter 144 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: Eric wrote to Andy Kano about that was found recently 145 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: or within the last couple of years and has been 146 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: you know, his attorneys had brought it to the attention 147 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: of the judge. I think it was written six to 148 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: eight months before the murder was committed, and in it 149 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 4: Eric says to Andy, it's still happening. Dad's still coming 150 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: to my room at night. And that wasn't available at 151 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 4: the first or second trial. 152 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: Do we do we know why the judge didn't allow 153 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: this evidence in the second trial? 154 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: Oh, such a good question, Such a good question. 155 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 4: It looks sketchy, right, you know what. The argument, one 156 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 4: of the cases we make in this show, in the 157 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 4: third episode, is that there was overwhelming pressure on the 158 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: DA's office, go Garsetti at the time. They have this 159 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: just you know, well known to people who've lived in 160 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 4: Los Angeles for a long time. They had this unerring 161 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 4: string of losses starting way way early, you know, with 162 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 4: mc martin, which was at that time the biggest, most expensive, 163 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 4: longest running trial in American history, and going all the 164 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 4: way up to OJ. The OJ verdict came in between 165 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 4: the first and second trials, and not just that, but 166 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 4: the LA riots That was also a judge, Stanley Weisberg. 167 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 4: He was the one responsible for moving the venue to 168 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 4: Simmy Valley, which most people you know, argue that's why 169 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 4: they got the verdict they did, so they just had 170 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: this long line of losses. 171 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: So we make an argument. 172 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: That that was at least that probably put a sum 173 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: on the scale for why Weissberg in the second trial 174 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: after hearing all this evidence disallowed it in the second trial. 175 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 4: You know, you can who knows Wiseberg, you know who 176 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: didn't interview him, But it's a certainly circumstantially use. 177 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: Weisberg got so much crap for moving the Rodney King 178 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: trial to see me. Valley and Garcetti got a whole 179 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 2: lot of crap for the first hung jury and then 180 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: losing O Jay that. Yeah, I got a lot of 181 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: this stuff. You can't prove it's not written down anywhere, 182 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: but you could, you could. That's right, you get a 183 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: pretty good idea why it happened. Well, listen, thank you 184 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: very much for allowing me to be a part of this, 185 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: and I can't wait till watch of course. 186 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and thank you again for not just for participating, 187 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: but there's so much like contemporaneous KFI audience calling stuff 188 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: that really helps us paint a portrait of like what 189 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: it felt like to live through that in Los Angeles 190 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 4: at the time, So thank you. 191 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I still had all the tapes from back then, 192 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 2: and uh, I'm glad there was a lot of material 193 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: for you to use. All Right, one more time. It's 194 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: Fox Station. It's being streamed now. It's a four part 195 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: Docuseriies Menendez Brothers, Victims or Villains. It released yesterday, and 196 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: just get Fox Nation loved that up on your TV 197 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: the streaming service and go back in time to. 198 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: An issue that still isn't dead. Thanks Nicole, Sure, thanks John. 199 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: All Right, Nicole Rittenmeyer one of the producers. 200 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 201 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 5: six forty. 202 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: We're on from one until four and after four o'clock 203 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: you can hear this as a podcast, John Cobelt's show 204 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: on demand. Truth Social, that is Donald trumps social media 205 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: company after he got kicked off all the regular social 206 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: media companies, although I think they've allowed him back on. 207 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: He started truth Social, and sometimes it seems like he's 208 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: the only customer. He doesn't have a lot of followers 209 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: on truth Social, it's just seven million. He's got thirty 210 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: four million on Facebook, twenty four million on Instagram. Eighty 211 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: seven million on what used to be Twitter, but as 212 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: far as I know, he doesn't post on those sites 213 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: anymore after he got kicked off, so he uses truth 214 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: Social and there's very little. The company's lost millions and 215 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: millions of dollars, there's very little revenue coming in. So 216 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 2: here you have a company which is dwarfed by its competitors, 217 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: has very little revenue, has zero profits, has huge money losses. 218 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: It goes public and Trump's supporters start bidding up the stock, 219 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: in turn making Trump billions of dollars in paper net 220 00:12:53,880 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: worth because he owned sixty percent of the company. He 221 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: merged truth Social into an existing shell company and created 222 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: something called Trump Media and Technology Group on the Nasdaq 223 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: Stock Exchange. The stock is listed by his initials DJT, 224 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: and it went public this morning and it just blew 225 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: through the roof. Before the stock tracked down somewhat. It 226 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: rose as high as seventy nine dollars plus finished at 227 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: fifty seven ninety nine. At the moment, he's worth about 228 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: four billion dollars on paper just from his his share 229 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: of this stock. And supposedly he can't cash in the 230 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: stock and he can't borrow against it for at least 231 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: six months unless the board gives him a waiver. Now, 232 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: among the people on the board are one of his 233 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: and I think another former Trump government official. Forget exactly 234 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: what his what his job was, but he's you know, 235 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 2: he's got family and friends on the board, so it's 236 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: very possible they could let him sell some of the 237 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: stock and then easily cover all the legal bills and 238 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: fines and bonds that are being racked up. The thing is, 239 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: if you were analyzing this as a normal company, you 240 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: would say you would say this is absurd, because it 241 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: is absurd. The company's not worth anything. It's it's what 242 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: now what people call meme stocks, And if you don't 243 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: follow the stock market, you probably don't know what that is, 244 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: but it it's it's people who they gather together in 245 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: discussion groups online and they collectively decide to pick a 246 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: stock and drive the price up and keep bidding it up, 247 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: bidding it up. And these guys buy and sell, buy 248 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: and sell, I guess to each each other, props up 249 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: the stock price, and then they try to time a 250 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: cash They try to time a point where they can 251 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: cash in and make a lot of money. But it's 252 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:15,119 Speaker 2: artificially inflated. It's got nothing to do with the business aspect, 253 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: whether the company is profitable, whether it's likely to grow, 254 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: whether it has a product or service where there's a 255 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: major market for it. None of that the traditional normal 256 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: reasons you use to value a company. This is like 257 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: just creating something out of thin air. In fact, a 258 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: social media company really is just air. I mean there 259 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: is no product, there's no real useful service in it. 260 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: And it's not like anyone else except Trump could could 261 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: make a company like this go public and have such 262 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: a huge price attached to it. But the value is 263 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: because people are bidding up the price of a company 264 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: that has no value, and so far, for one day, 265 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: it's worked. If the stock price stays above seventeen fifty 266 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: for a certain period of time, they're going to issue 267 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: tens of millions of new shares and most of those 268 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: will go to Trump as well. Now again, Facebook and 269 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: Twitter and Instagram absolutely dwarf truth social and Trump media. 270 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: It's just a little little speck. But I guess his 271 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: supporters are going to buy and sell the shares at 272 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: inflated prices, maybe until he cashes out. If he cashes out, 273 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: the whole thing could collapse to nothing in the meantime, 274 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: because he apparently has some cash on him, but he 275 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: didn't want to spend it on the bond for that 276 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: civil judgment against in New York because he wants to 277 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: spend the money on his campaign. So I imagine we'll find 278 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: out shortly if the board, his friends and family will 279 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 2: let him sell some of it so he can finance 280 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: the campaign or finance his legal bills, and then see 281 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: what happens to the company. 282 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: I just. 283 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: I mean, how many people are selling little with Donald Trump? 284 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: They want to make him richer. They're willing to spend 285 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: their money to make him richer. It's just nuts. 286 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI A 287 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 5: six forty. 288 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: We're on from one until four and then after four 289 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: o'clock John cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app. 290 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: There have a series of stories about homes in distress 291 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: here in southern California. 292 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: Have you heard about the hoarder home in San Diego? 293 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: Channel eight, the CBS station in San Diego, has been 294 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: doing an investigation into a home that's owned by a 295 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: woman named Lisa Golden. And Lisa Golden is not mentally well. 296 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: She even admits she's got some issues and it's become 297 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: disgusting and dangerous, and neighbors have gone to court and 298 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: the city inspector went to Golden's home and found piles 299 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: of garbage four feet high, rotting food, all kinds of 300 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: clothes and random items and boxes. It smelled like mold 301 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: and rotting food. You could tell there are rats running around. 302 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: And he actually wrote this justin Welker. The city inspector 303 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: wrote this in his court report. Words cannot adequately describe 304 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: the condition of the master toilet. It was smeared with 305 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: brown filth, browned filthop that's his word for poop, must 306 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: be a legal term. And the stall floor is covered 307 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: in trap including a dozen used toilet paper rolls. Oh, 308 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: I bet you wouldn't flush on a pile of what 309 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: appeared to be crumpled up used toilet paper. In the 310 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 2: bathroom and master bedroom, the smell of rotting food and 311 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: mold was again present. In the backyard, dead palm fronds 312 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: were piled up and spread around the walkways and grounds, 313 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: and the pool was partially filled with green water, which 314 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: I think is a breeding ground for mosquitoes. Several large 315 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 2: plastic bags were perched on furniture walkways, covered with lumber logs, 316 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: dried vegetation, plastic containers, and three dead rats. They also 317 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: found in the backyard as well. They could not tell 318 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: if these sinks and toilets had running water in the 319 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: bathrooms because there was too much stuff blocking access to 320 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 2: the them. And I guess nobody wanted to touch it 321 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 2: and the they had. The neighbors been trying to get this, uh, 322 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: Lisa Golden to clean it for years, and she goes 323 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 2: to court and constantly gets either a continuance or she 324 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: appeals or just ignores them. 325 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: And these are million. 326 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 2: Dollar homes in a cul de Sac neighborhood and and 327 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: they're they're begging the judge to do something. But she 328 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: got another, she got another continuance, another delay till March 329 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 2: twenty ninth. The judge told Lisa Golden she has to 330 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: return with a note from her doctor confirming her mental 331 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: health problems. So you know what's scary is you could 332 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: you could make some money, live in a nice neighborhood 333 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: and you're next to a mental patient, and you try 334 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: to go to court or appeal to the city and 335 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: you can never get anywhere. 336 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 6: But you know, it doesn't make sense, you're even okay, 337 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 6: So let's just say she has this, you know, mental condition. 338 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 6: Why isn't the judge having somebody else come in and 339 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 6: clean it up? Why are you allowing this? Why do 340 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 6: the neighbors have to deal with this? 341 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 2: If it's a health hazard and a fire hazard exactly, 342 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: you know it's her mental condition is really irrelevant. 343 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: Doesn't right. 344 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 6: But if she can't, if she doesn't have the capacity 345 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 6: to clean up all this stuff, somebody else needs to. 346 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 7: But she's belligerent about it, thinks it's okay. Well, well yeah, 347 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 7: I'm just seeing the thing is normal human behavior, although 348 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 7: I'm starting to wonder, right, normal human behavior you walk 349 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 7: into a disgusting bathroom and it smells bad, and you 350 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 7: have rolls of used toilet paper and piles of used 351 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 7: toilet tissue right there, there's a there's a mechanism that 352 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 7: kicks in and you gag, you want to throw up, 353 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 7: you're you're you're so grossed out by it. If if 354 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 7: she doesn't have that reaction, then obviously she's mentally ill. 355 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 7: But then you look at everybody living in San Francisco 356 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 7: and putting up with it. 357 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 358 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: I guess people get used to anything, and I guess 359 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: she's I wouldn't. 360 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 6: I mean, maybe she can be used to it, but 361 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 6: the neighbors aren't, and it's just not fair. 362 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 5: No. 363 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 2: And then you have more million dollar homes who have 364 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: been red tagged up in Hollywood Hills because they had 365 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: a landslide on Flickerway in the hills and debris and 366 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: mud shifted and it's right on the edge of these 367 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: homes and they've been red tagged. One mansion is three 368 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: and a half million dollars and is built right along 369 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: the hill where they had the landslide. All three of 370 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: them are on Flicker Way. All three of them sold 371 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: for about three and a half million dollars. And there 372 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: was a there's that landslide in Sherman Oaks that made 373 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: news a couple of weeks ago. And then there's weird. 374 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 2: Debra and I were talking about Topanga Canyon drive up 375 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: to Malibu. Yeah, that thing. There's a landslide there and 376 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: it won't stop. I saw video just a couple of 377 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: days ago that the rocks and the dirt keep tumbling 378 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: down across the road. And this has created a traffic 379 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: jam all over the west side, which might not make 380 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: any sense, but there's a lot of people who take 381 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: the Pacific Coast Highway up from the west side, like 382 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: up from Venice and Santa Monica, and they head north 383 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 2: through Malibu. Then they make a right on Topanga Canyon 384 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: and they go back home over the hill. 385 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 4: You know. 386 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: They live in Calabasas or Hidden Hills or a thousand 387 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 2: Oaks or Woodland Hills. 388 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: That whole area. 389 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: And now all those people can't go north, so they 390 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: go to the east, and they are clogging the roads 391 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: all over the West Side, and they're cutting through my neighborhood. No, oh, 392 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 2: it's now I counted. I make a left turn off 393 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: Sunset every day, and I've got. 394 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: Less than a half mile to get to my house. 395 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: There were eighty cars lined up trying to get on Sunset. 396 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 6: I know that that place over there, that's ridiculous, that intersection, 397 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 6: eighty cars. 398 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: I'm passing it and there's cars parked on both sides 399 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: of the road, and I'm trying to squeeze my car 400 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: in between three rows of other cars, two parked lanes, 401 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: and then the oncoming lane. And I go down the 402 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: road and the road bends to the right, and it 403 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: keeps going on, and it goes on another block, and 404 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: it goes on another block, and I see more cars 405 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 2: piling in ready to join the. 406 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: It's like, I can't believe. I can't believe. 407 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: And this is supposed to be the cut through route 408 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: because Sunset Boulevard is at a complete standstill most afternoons. 409 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 6: Now, and you know we're getting more rain this weekend, 410 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 6: another atmospheric river. It's going to be a crazy weekend. 411 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: No, there's gonna be more landslides. Exactly. If they get 412 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: to the four h. 413 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: Five, you have to go north, and the four or 414 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 2: five is backed up going north from the west side 415 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: all the way into the valley where you are right, yeah, 416 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: and then they have to well like instead of cutting 417 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: through Topanga and getting home, so they go down Sunset, 418 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: they go north on the four or five, and then 419 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: they go to the west on the one oh one 420 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 2: and everything is jammed up. It backs it up all 421 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: the way to Burbank. As soon as I get on 422 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: the one thirty four. Sometimes it's jammed all because of 423 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: one road in Topanga. 424 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 425 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: And I noticed this when I moved to the west 426 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 2: side long time ago, that if one road in the 427 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: network gets blockaded for some reason. All the roads do, 428 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: and you could have a jam up from bell Air 429 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: to Culver City, from Malibu to Woodland Hills. It goes 430 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: on for many miles in all directions, all the side 431 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: street just one because there's so few roads. There's so 432 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: few roads that go through the mountains. 433 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 6: I was driving on Canaan, which is another one of 434 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 6: those roads to take you to the beach, and there 435 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 6: were a lot of rocks on the road. Now, not 436 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 6: like Topanga, so it's it's not obviously because I was 437 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 6: able to go. It's not closed, but there's there's rocks 438 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 6: tumbling down Canaan as well. 439 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty steady on Topanga. Oh yeah, and 440 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: they also have had it on pch More. 441 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 5: Coming up, you're listening to John Cobelts on demand from 442 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 5: KFI AM six forty. 443 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: Coming up after two o'clock, we'll talk about the bridge 444 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: collapsing in Baltimore, the Francis Scott Key Bridge getting hit 445 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: by a cargo ship. What did I say, two o'clock, 446 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: it's okay, coming up after three o'clock, Well it would 447 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 2: also be after two o'clock. 448 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: That's fair. 449 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, yes, coming up next segment after Debra's news, 450 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: whatever time that is. Let me, I want to play 451 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: this story here because this happened in New York City. 452 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: But it's the same stupid destructive philosophy, this progressive philosophy 453 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: about not putting criminals in prison and what this led 454 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: to in New York City as a NYPD officer being 455 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: shot and killed, and when you hear about the suspects 456 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: and I've got a companying story about there their backgrounds, 457 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: it's just going to make you make you crazy, and 458 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: it's you know, this is George Gascon's philosophy here, it's 459 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: Alvin Braggs philosophy in New York. This is from NBC 460 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 2: four in New York. Checkie Beckford's report, why did this 461 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: violent individual with the gun have no fear to shoot? 462 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: A New York City police off a sudden. 463 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 8: Question tonight, after a thirty one year old officer, Jonathan Diller, 464 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 8: was shot and killed on the job. 465 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: Can I say it any clearer? It is the good 466 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: guys against the. 467 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 8: Bad guys, And tonight Mayor Adams says the good guys. 468 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 8: Officers with the NYPD's Community Response Team came face to 469 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 8: face with the bad guys during a traffic stop in 470 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 8: far Rockaway for a vehicle parked illegally in a bus stop. 471 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 9: After approaching the car, the suspect inside the vehicle displayed 472 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 9: of firearm and pointed it towards the offices. Shots were 473 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 9: fired and one of all officers were struck. 474 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 8: Official say Officer Diller was struck in the torso the 475 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 8: officer's partner open fire, striking the shooter in the back hood. 476 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: No, I heard it again, a new he was moving. 477 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: He was in the video saying I'm hit, I'm hitting. 478 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 8: The shooting happened near Dion peters is Mott Avenue real 479 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 8: Estate office, where ironically, students with the NYPD Explorer program 480 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 8: who he mentors, were present. It was cats healthy run 481 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 8: to the back officials showing the gun used to shoot 482 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 8: the officer. 483 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 5: I want to perpetrate, as the driver of the car 484 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 5: did have a gun arrest back in April of twenty 485 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 5: twenty three and was out on the street. 486 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 8: The mayor says, this isn't about crime, It's about the 487 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 8: chance criminals have to commit crimes over and over again. 488 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: This is what you call not a crime problem. 489 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 10: The recided his problem, saying bad people doing bad things 490 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 10: to good people. Less than a year, he's back on 491 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 10: the streets with another guy, and. 492 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 8: Official say even after being shot, Officer Diller struggled with 493 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 8: the suspect to keep a hold of his gun after 494 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 8: it had fallen to the ground. Now, this happened right 495 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 8: in front of Councilwoman Salvina brooks powers office. No one 496 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 8: inside was hit again, No one else was injured at 497 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 8: any of this, except for, of course, that officer who's 498 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 8: tragically killed. And then the suspect, the thirty four year 499 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 8: old suspect who was wounded and is being treated tonight. 500 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 8: His condition is unknown. The driver also in police custody tonight, 501 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 8: unclear what charges he faces. 502 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: And in New York, like here in Los Angeles, they 503 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: passed laws. 504 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: There's no bail. 505 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: There are little to no prison sentences anymore, felonies or misdemeanors. 506 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: Misdemeanors become citation tickets. There's some such nonsense. And if 507 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: people do end up getting a sentence, they're released early. 508 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: And you have the same small group of deviants of 509 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: psychotics who commit crimes over and over again, and they 510 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: are psychotic, and there's no curing them. 511 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: It's not they had a bad childhood. 512 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: It's not racism, it's that they're psychotic and they should 513 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: be put in prison when you release them. 514 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: This is what they do, They kill cops. Listen to 515 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: the background. 516 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: This guy Rivera, who looks like a mental patient in 517 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: his mugshot. Everybody in that Queen's neighborhood knew these two 518 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: guys because Rivera was thirty four, his driver, Lindy Jones, 519 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: was forty one. They've been committing felonies for decades. Rivera 520 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: has been arrested to twenty one times, twenty one. He 521 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: once spent five years in prison for possession of a 522 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 2: controlled substance. Jones, the driver, had fourteen narcotics, assault and 523 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: domestic violence arrests fourteen. So between the two of them, 524 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: they've been arrested thirty five times. He even had an 525 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 2: attempted murder conviction in two thousand and three. There's no 526 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: explanation why these two guys were. 527 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: On the loose. 528 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: Now, this is a sickness and Adams also in his speech, 529 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: the Mayor of New York was saying, this is not 530 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: about bail or no bail. 531 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: Yes it is. It's about all of it. 532 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: It's about bail it's about not prosecuting. It's about plea bargaining. 533 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: It's about no felonies, its misdemeanors, it's probation. It's about 534 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: not putting people in prison, locking them up, and leaving 535 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: them there for a very long time, if not forever. 536 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: Either. 537 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: If you put them away, they can't hurt anybody. If 538 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: you let them out, they're going to hurt people because 539 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: they're psychotic. There's no fixing them. There's no rehab, there's 540 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: no you can't put them in a diversion program. That's 541 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: all a bunch of garbage. It's all garbage. These are sick, diseased, 542 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: violent psychopaths. Okay, So one of them is twenty one arrests, 543 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: the other one has fourteen. That's a total of thirty 544 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: five arrests. Last April Jones, the driver was charged with 545 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: second degree criminal possession of a weapon. He had unloaded 546 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: twenty five caliber handgun. Released on seventy five thousand dollars bail, 547 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: and he was supposed to appear ad a hearing on 548 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: Monday for a crime that he committed in. 549 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: April last year. 550 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: So these guys drive around loaded guns, committing crimes every day, 551 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: and when a finally confronts him. The cop gets shot dead, 552 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: and he lives behind a wife and a one year 553 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: old a one year old son, and he's only thirty 554 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 2: one years old. I don't understand we got we're so 555 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: like sick in this country. 556 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: We don't. 557 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: We don't side with good guys anymore. Two many people 558 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: in power side with the bad guys. They root for 559 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: the bad guys. They they don't care if the police 560 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: get murdered, and then they're complaining. It's like, well, you know, 561 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 2: recruitment is way down. Of course it's way down. Why 562 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 2: would you want to become a cop. And when they're 563 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: done killing cops, they're going to come for the rest 564 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: of us. Unbelievable, Absolutely unbelievable. 565 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: What a sick time we're living in. 566 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: More coming up, we'll talk about the bridge that came 567 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: down in Baltimore, Debor Mark live in the KFI twenty 568 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John 569 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the show live 570 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: on KFI Am six forty from one to four pm 571 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: every Monday through Friday, and of course anytime on demand 572 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app.