1 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Is continuing coverage of the twenty twenty six NFL Combine 2 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: by from Indianapolis on the Steelers Audio Network, presented by 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: First National Bank. Can your bank do that? Welcome to FNB. 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: Let's get started. 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Member FDIC Iron Workers Local Union number three. We don't 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: go to the office, We build it. Schneider Downs discover 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: the value of big thinking with a personal focus at 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Schneiderdowns dot Com your neighborhood Ford store. The Ford F 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: one fifty is the official truck of the Pittsburgh Steelers 10 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: and by US deal mine melted, made in the USA. 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: It's the Drive live on Radio Row at the twenty 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 4: twenty six NFL Scouting Combine. West Ruler Matt Williamson, and 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 4: we are leading off today with power hitter Barry Bonds. 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: Yeah right, Wayne Gretzky, the great one. Dan Brugler joins us. 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 4: If you've listened to our show for more than five seconds, 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: you've heard us reference Dane plenty throughout this draft process. 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: Of course, draft analyst for the athletic author of the Beast, 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: one of our favorite people to talk to here every 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 4: single year. 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: Dane, what's up man? Have you slept it all yet 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 3: this week, I. 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 5: See you got my pure hit points to introduce me. 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 5: Thank you to that. 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 6: Check out the Building of the Beast podcast as well. 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 6: How about that development. 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 5: It's been a lot of fun kind of take people 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 5: through the process of you know, the scouting process of 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 5: this during the season, into the draft process, all Star 30 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 5: season only combine. It's crazy how it's flying. I mean, 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 5: we're we're on our way. So yeah, it's good to 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 5: see you guys. 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 2: So we look at the quarterback aside. 34 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 6: I mean, it's almost a whole different conversation for this 35 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 6: team and it has been for five years. Wide receiver's 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 6: got to be a big thing to address here, especially 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 6: going to a McCarthy offense with three receivers on the field. 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 6: Not so tight end centric. But it looks like a 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,919 Speaker 6: really strong receiver draft through the first two days. 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think. 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 6: It'll be good options to twenty one without having to move? 42 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 6: And if you happen to go a different direction, would 43 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 6: you think you'd be happy with the Day two stuff 44 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 6: as well? 45 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: So you Dons have three third round. 46 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 5: Picks, well, and I had seventeen receivers in my top 47 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 5: one hundred. Yeah, and that's that reflects the depth I think, 48 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 5: even though I don't think this draft has a Molik 49 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 5: Neighbors or you know, like that clear guy at the 50 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 5: top that it's like, all right, this is a you 51 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 5: know you draft him top five, Yeah, exactly. I don't 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 5: think this draft necessarily has that, but the depth, yeah, 53 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 5: And it depends on what type of receiver you want. 54 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 5: You know, you want the X Okay, Denzel Boston, you know, 55 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 5: you like the way you play. You want more of 56 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 5: that slot player, want more of the Z. 57 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 6: You know, you wouldn't hesitate with Boston at twenty one, 58 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 6: and assuming he runs decent this week. 59 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 5: No, If I'm if I was looking for a big, 60 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 5: physical X guy that would give me some inside versatility 61 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 5: as a big slot yeah, I would be perfectly fine 62 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 5: with that. I tell you the player I'm interested in 63 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 5: with with Pittsburgh Jordan Tyson. Okay, I reported last night 64 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 5: he's not gonna work out here at the at the 65 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 5: combine your crush your fingers. You're able to see him 66 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 5: work out before the draft, but no guarantees. U. 67 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: There are some medicals, right, it's. 68 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 5: A hamstring that's bothered him during the season, and you know, still, 69 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 5: like I think if there's a game tomorrow. He could 70 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 5: probably gut it out, but it's like, Okay, do I 71 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 5: really want to strain and hurt it more when you know, 72 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 5: just to run a forty yard down that kind of thing. 73 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: Because I don't think he'll be a medical reject. 74 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 5: So that's the big question mark is the durability with him. 75 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 5: He had the knee as a freshman at Colorado. As 76 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 5: long as the knees, I'm more worried about the knee, 77 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 5: I guess, just making sure there's no long term worries 78 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 5: with the knee. The call. He had a collarbone last 79 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 5: year and I think that'll be fine. The hamstring is 80 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 5: more of a rest issue, you know. It's I think 81 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 5: he'll be fine long term. Hopefully the medical staffs they 82 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 5: you know that that this will be a big way 83 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 5: for him. And as he goes through the gauntlet and 84 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 5: every team looks at him physically. But now that he's 85 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 5: not gonna be able to work out here at the combine, 86 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 5: maybe for the draft, I don't know who knows. Does 87 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 5: they're a little bit of a discount sticker on him 88 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 5: now where before you because I think on a tape 89 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 5: he's a top twelve player in this draft. Okay, Now 90 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 5: it's like, okay, if I'm the Browns at twenty four 91 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 5: Steelers a you know twenty one, that all of a 92 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 5: sudden it's a lot more realistic that, hey, this could 93 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 5: be an option for us when we didn't think so. 94 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 5: Maybe just looking at the tape. 95 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: Kins Ward's position coach. 96 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 5: Too exactly exactly, And so that's something where it's it's 97 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 5: a fun story. But you also you know the way 98 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 5: he was coached, you know the way he was pushed. 99 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 5: You're not gonna get any better intel from a coaching 100 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 5: staff because sometimes you know, coaches can tell you what 101 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 5: you want to hear, but you feel like kinds of 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 5: words is gonna give it to you straight? 103 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? I bet. 104 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 4: How do you feel about those big three names at receiver, Tate, Lemon? 105 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 4: And of course, how like do you what you're pecking 106 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: order for those guys? And who do you think is 107 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 4: it is Tate the one one who's wide receiver one 108 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: at this point or is that still up in the air. 109 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: Are they in their own tier as well? 110 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? I think so? And for me, he is you know, 111 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 5: he's I love him as a z where I'm you 112 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 5: gonna see what he runs because you don't watch him 113 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 5: and say, oh, he's a burner. But he's got those 114 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 5: long strides where he eats up grass so fast and 115 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 5: so he gets on top of the defense and he's 116 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 5: a he's a big time player down the field, tracks 117 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 5: the ball well, really good and contested situations. I think 118 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 5: it was like twelve or fourteen this year, which is bananas. 119 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 5: He's one of the better sideline receivers that have evaluated, 120 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 5: not just this year but ever, which I think is 121 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: a very underrated trait. His ability to uh tiptoe along 122 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 5: the sideline that balance and then also so long that 123 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 5: he pulls throws back into play when they're out of bounds. 124 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 5: So the catch radius, the toughness at the catch point, 125 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 5: the ability to get vertical, and the steps he took 126 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 5: this year as a just to become a more proficient 127 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 5: route runner really impressed with and so he was really 128 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 5: productive for a team that he was never needed to 129 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 5: be the number one, you know, with the Meccha could 130 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 5: there last year and Jeremi Smith and then jeremih Smith 131 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 5: this past year. 132 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: So those ore High state guys been pretty productive in 133 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: the pros. 134 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 7: Not bad. 135 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 5: You can name a few, right and at this time 136 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 5: next year will be gushing about Jeremiah Smith and sure 137 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 5: how different he is. But yeah, I think Carnell Tate. 138 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 5: He coming into this year, I liked him. I saw 139 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 5: more as a borderline first second round guy. The way 140 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 5: he performed this year, he put himself in that top 141 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 5: fifteen mix for sure. 142 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 6: So lemon watching him, I think, boy, there's no way 143 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 6: he gets to twenty one. I mean, just a really 144 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 6: good football player, right, But we know how this process works. 145 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 6: I mean, sure we could leave this week and say 146 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 6: he's small and slow. 147 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 5: Ye, not for everybody. Yeah, that kind of thing. And 148 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 5: I think you just said something that I think is 149 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 5: the theme of this draft, at least the top half 150 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 5: of the draft is just drafted football players. Yeah, you know, 151 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 5: I think we get we can get so caught up 152 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 5: and you have a scouting background, you know, like it's 153 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 5: so easy to chase the high end traits and chase 154 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 5: the upside, and I get that, but this draft. 155 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: Premus position aren't as strong. Actually a yeah. 156 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 5: Safety running back, you're talking about two of the best 157 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 5: players in this draft with Caleb Downs and Jeremiah love 158 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 5: Sonny Styles is a top five player in this draft. 159 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 5: In my opinion, he's off ball linebacker. So yeah, I 160 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: think it's it's less about hitting those premium positions, chasing 161 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 5: the traits, and more about just draft of football players, 162 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 5: and Makaia Lemon kind of falls in that territory where 163 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 5: and I joke that his his rookie contract, one percent 164 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 5: of that should go to Almon Ross Saint Brown. Yeah, 165 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 5: because I think that really gives you a path of Hey, 166 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: this is how he's going to play. This is how 167 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 5: to win with a player like this. And maybe we're 168 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 5: not talking about him as a top fifteen pick without 169 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 5: if a Saint Brown just never existed. But he's not 170 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 5: a slot only player. But I think he's best in 171 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 5: the slots where you want him to use the middle 172 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: of the field, so strong through contact, his ability to 173 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 5: manipulate the coverage, and then after as well, he's so 174 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 5: efficient going from catcher to runner, so he can make 175 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 5: something happen with the racks. 176 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 6: So I don't think that's an exaggeration to pair him 177 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 6: to Saint Brown, at least stylistically. 178 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 5: Stylistically, I think it's spot on. Yeah, that's if you 179 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 5: want that type of player, you're gonna love Mackay Lemon 180 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 5: and it's it's always it's a fine needle to threat, right, 181 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: because there's one of those guys. And so you're really 182 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 5: gonna put every all your chips in on a guy 183 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 5: that's gonna turn out to be just like this one player. 184 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 5: So there is risk involved for sure, especially when we 185 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 5: get his verified numbers in terms of the size. And 186 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 5: I don't know if he's gonna run here. I know 187 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 5: he's gonna do position drills. I don't know if he's 188 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 5: gonna run. But you're not drafting him because he's faster 189 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 5: than everybody else. He is just tougher and better than 190 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 5: everybody else. And so yeah, I think I don't think 191 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 5: he's gonna get to where the Steelers are drafting somewhere 192 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 5: top sixteen, somewhere the top half a round one. I 193 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 5: think he's gonna go. 194 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 4: So the Steelers have what is it, five picks in 195 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 4: the top one hundred, They have four picks on day two. 196 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: So if it's not wide receiver at twenty one, is 197 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 4: there anybody in kind of that second wave, that second 198 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: crop that stands out to you at this. 199 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 5: Point at receiver? I mean, I like casey concepts you 200 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 5: own as kind of that next guy. You know, you 201 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 5: have to live with some of the drops, but he's explosive, 202 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 5: he gets open and he's another guy that you give 203 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 5: a little bit of space. He can go the distance 204 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 5: punt returner as well. So concept she own another guy 205 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 5: meager to see if he runs here because he's fast 206 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 5: on film, We'll see how that translates to the forty Boston. 207 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: Like we said, he's more of that prototypical X big 208 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 5: player can use his frame. Just not many six three 209 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 5: and a half receivers that size that can go make 210 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 5: a play and it doesn't matter if he's covered, he 211 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 5: can still go make a play. I think go more 212 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 5: Cooper juniors in that mix as well. Yeah, Fields, yeah 213 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 5: it Fields, He's he's another good football player. I don't know. 214 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 5: I can't get quite there in the first round with him. Yeah, 215 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 5: I second round, yeah, I think if you wait to 216 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 5: the second round, I think him. You know, it's it's 217 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 5: unfortunate Chris Bell had the a c L because he 218 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 5: was you know, it's just six three two twenty five 219 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 5: that have his explosiveness, his power. He's a guy it's 220 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: easy to get excited about. He's just the ACL really 221 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 5: clouds his future. But good football player. 222 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 6: So Elmore Conn spoke today and that's when what we 223 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 6: were talking about most over the course of the day, 224 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 6: and just reading between the tea leaves, I kind of 225 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 6: get the feeling that Ramsey, Jalen Ramsey could probably go 226 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 6: back to slot corner and not safety, thus creating a 227 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 6: pretty big need at a safety slash free safety spot 228 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 6: downs is going to be gone. But Toledo or Oregon, 229 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 6: would you consider one of those guys at twenty one? 230 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 6: Do you think they're worthy? Yeah, kind of lean in 231 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 6: that direction lately. 232 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 5: Well, it's funny because McNeil Warren from Toledo one of 233 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 5: my favorite players since I watched him in the summer 234 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 5: and you know, did a good story on him during 235 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 5: the year, and Jason Kandel, a head coach at Toledo, 236 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 5: found him. He was just shooting baskets in the in 237 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 5: the gym and oh really said, do you play football? 238 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 5: Like yeah? And next thing you know, he's got an offer. 239 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 5: So and he had offers to go transfer and go 240 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 5: up to the FBL or he was already FBS, but 241 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 5: go up to a big ten or bigger, bigger program, 242 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 5: and he stayed put. He was loyal to candle in 243 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 5: that coaching staff, and I think they it worked out 244 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 5: for him because he has a good chance to be 245 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 5: a somewhere in the top thirty five picks. But he 246 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 5: is a really long player. He can tackle, he can 247 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 5: go find the ball. Fimn, he has a chance to 248 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 5: really help himself this week. 249 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: What I thought. 250 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 5: He's a big time athlete, you know, back to his 251 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 5: Purdue days, playing single high and covering both sidelines. But 252 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 5: I think what you like about him is how versatile 253 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 5: he is as a safety. You want him to cover space, 254 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 5: he can do that. You want to be a nickel, 255 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 5: he can do that too. You know, you want him 256 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 5: to disguise coverages. I think you can be really creative 257 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 5: with him because he's a good athlete. He's a smart player, 258 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 5: and he's tough and you know, give a crap factor 259 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 5: is high. He really cares and so those are the 260 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 5: type of guys that I think you want to bet on, 261 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 5: and so, especially after what he does this week, Fianomn 262 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 5: and McNeil, I think both have a shot to go 263 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 5: top twenty five. 264 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 6: The other position I would ask you about in a 265 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 6: similar light is just a pure defensive tackle. 266 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: Could the dude from Florida. 267 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 4: Caleb Banks or one of these hunter Peter Woods. 268 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: Could they I. 269 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 6: Could see Woods having a big week. One of those 270 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 6: guys get in that mix of surefire first round mid 271 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 6: first round. 272 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 5: Caleb Banks, I'm very excited to see this week. I 273 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 5: talked to him last week just about kind of making 274 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 5: up for lost time because he coming into the year, 275 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 5: he had first and second round grades from scouts over 276 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 5: the summer and then had the foot injury, tried to 277 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 5: come back and came back for the third game of 278 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 5: the year, got hurt again, had to have a surgery. 279 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 5: Most guys are shutting it down at that point. Not him. 280 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 5: He came back for like the last two games of 281 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 5: the year, even though Florida was a bad team, which 282 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 5: I think really says something about him as a person 283 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 5: and a competitor. But you just don't find six six 284 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 5: three thirty five thirty five inch arms eleven in chance. 285 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 5: You don't find that guys that are disruptive, move well, 286 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 5: good athletes. Still, it plays a little high time, that's it. 287 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 5: And at that size you're going to be able to 288 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 5: The leverage is going to be an issue for you. 289 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 5: He's still learning how to work around that. But I 290 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 5: guys I think it was a twenty twenty four lsu TP. 291 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 5: I just keep calling back to and how dominant he 292 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 5: was at many points during that year. It's just the injuries. 293 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 5: You have to be comfortable with where he is durability wise, 294 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 5: but the traits, no doubt about it. Top ten traits. 295 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 5: It's just how much of a how much can you 296 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 5: stomach him? You know, be comfortable with where he is 297 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 5: with the durability. 298 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I think. 299 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: We'd be remiss if we didn't ask you about these quarterbacks. Obviously, 300 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 4: Mendoza number one, we know he's going to be. He's done, deal, 301 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: sign sealed, delivered at this point. But if someone like 302 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: ty Sampson's there at twenty one for the Steelers, is 303 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 4: that a real option? 304 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 5: Do you like him in that range? 305 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: Or you think there's someone else who could maybe usurp 306 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 4: him and become that QB two in this class. 307 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 5: I'd be surprised, just because because there's not a lot 308 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 5: of competitors for that, Like I like Garrett Nosmeyer, but 309 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 5: I just I think it'll be tough for him to 310 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 5: get up that high. Cole Payton's a fun player for Northcoto. 311 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 6: SI, so was gonna ask you about him, Yeah, I 312 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 6: wouldn't mind a third round flyer on Cole Payton. 313 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 5: It's he's in this tough spot because he It's funny 314 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 5: coming out of Nebraska in high school. He went to 315 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 5: North Goota State thinking I'm gonna play because they were 316 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 5: losing Trey Lance. So he goes to North Goota State 317 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 5: thinking he's gonna get on the field. But cam Miller's there, 318 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 5: who starts for four years, and then the Raiders drafted 319 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 5: him last year, so finally gets on the field as 320 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 5: a starter, and you know, talking to scouts over the 321 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 5: summer about him, they were thinking about him as a 322 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 5: tight end convert because he's a big, size kid and 323 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 5: a good athlete. Toughness is off the charts and so 324 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 5: but the tape he produced this year shows okay, he's 325 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 5: a quarterback, big lefty, but he needs more reps. But 326 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 5: he's not ready for NFL competition. So he's kind of 327 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 5: in that middle ground where you wish he had one 328 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 5: more year of eligibility, or you wish NFL had some 329 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 5: kind of a G league where he could go get 330 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 5: those values reps without you know, having to make him 331 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 5: your starter. So he's kind of in that middle ground, 332 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 5: which is tough, but yeah, he's really super intriguing. Tie. 333 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 5: Both these guys Cole Cole Payton thirteen starts, Ty Simpson 334 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 5: fifteen starts, and just going back to the last fifteen years, 335 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 5: the quarterbacks that had fifteen or fewer starts in college, 336 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 5: it's brutal Trubisky, Anthony Richardson, Dwayne Haskins. Yeah, and he 337 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 5: had like seventeen, Like it's just a few more, but 338 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 5: it to your still applies. Yeah, yeah, anything. I think 339 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 5: under twenty the best quarterback is Kyler Murray maybe, and 340 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 5: I mean he's had mediocre success at best, so it's 341 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 5: there's just no substitute for experience. But Tie's a little 342 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 5: different because he grew his dad is a twenty year 343 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 5: head coach at the FCS level. He got that quarterback 344 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 5: education since he was five, growing up on a college campus. 345 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: You know. 346 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 5: And there's a lot of things on tape to like 347 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 5: his his processing and the way he can navigate the pocket. 348 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 5: It's a lot of quarterback things, you know. It's not 349 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 5: just he's a big athlete who can throw the ball far. 350 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 5: He does a lot of quarterback specific things that will 351 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 5: translate to the NFL there's just a lot he hasn't seen, 352 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 5: you know, in terms of coverages, in terms of situational 353 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 5: things where you're gonna take your lumps, and it's just 354 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 5: a matter of do you believe he has the mental 355 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 5: toughness to take those mental lumps and come back and 356 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 5: be better because of it. And if you think he 357 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 5: has that in him, the intangible factor, where the competitive 358 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 5: toughness is ingrained in him, then yeah, I'd be fine 359 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 5: rolling the dice at that point. It's just there is. 360 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: A year behind Aaron Rodgers something like. 361 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 5: That's not the worst spot to be in for him. 362 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, last thing I got for you, Dan, Thanks so much. 363 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think the Steelers will go corner 364 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 6: in round one, but one of those four day two picks, 365 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 6: I could definitely see a corner. 366 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: You know. Is that a pretty rich area to go shopping? 367 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 5: I think so. I do think there's a drop off 368 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 5: after the third round, like once you get to day three. 369 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 5: I think it drops off pretty hard at or if 370 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 5: I wanted to come away from this draft of the corner, 371 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 5: I'm doing it somewhere in the first three rounds. Okay, 372 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 5: And you know, Chris Johnson from San Diego State. It's 373 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 5: one of my favorite corners in this draft. You know, 374 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 5: he's he's a young player, but really instinctive. The coverage 375 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 5: ability is outstanding. He's tough, first to run. I think d' 376 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 5: angelo Pond's you know, he's another one. He's an interesting 377 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 5: He's gonna have the discount sticker because of the size. 378 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 5: Some team's immediately gonna write him off under thirty inch 379 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 5: arms under five to nine. 380 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: But man could really blow up this week, right, there's. 381 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 5: A good chance he well for threes forty inch and avert. 382 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 5: You know, he's probably in the conversation at twenty one 383 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 5: if you want him, okay, just because the trace and 384 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 5: it's corners a stopwatch position, So if you show you 385 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 5: have that athleticism, yeah, they're a good chance you're going 386 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 5: to go. But corner is definitely a pretty decent group. 387 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 5: When you're talking about those top one hundred picks before. 388 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 3: We let you go. 389 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: Weird year for offensive tackles because because you've got the 390 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 4: two big names, but then a lot of the proctors 391 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 4: and the freelings and the low moves. Is there any 392 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 4: one of that kind of second wave, those mid to 393 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: back first round guys that you like that you think 394 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 4: is worth because we rarely see tackles drafted in that range, 395 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 4: and it feels like there could be three or four 396 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: this year. 397 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 6: It seems like Freeling in the Arizona State, dude whose 398 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 6: name I disribered, having a chance to really step up athletically, there's. 399 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 5: No question about it. And Freeling's a guy. It's fine. 400 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 5: My first monk I did this year was that Thanksgiving 401 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 5: and I've put Freely in there because I really like 402 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 5: the traits and the pushback I got, like, oh we 403 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 5: talking about we haven't seen this name before. Just wait 404 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 5: because teams are buzzing about him and. 405 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: The last month this season was a lot different than 406 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: the first two months of this season. 407 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 5: Well, and he's a young player. He's getting better and 408 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 5: better stacking those good games. If he went back to Georgia, 409 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: we're probably talking about him as a top ten pick 410 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 5: next year in a twenty twenty seven draft. So if 411 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 5: that's the case, could he go top ten this year? 412 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 5: I wouldn't rule it out. It's he He's has a 413 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 5: true left tackle skill set where Maliinoa Fino their right tackles, 414 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 5: even Maliinoa for some teams as a guard. So if 415 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 5: you're really looking for that left tackle skill set, then 416 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 5: that's what he gives you. I think, like you know, 417 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 5: like a Colton Miller when he's coming out of UCLA, 418 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 5: like he was like fifteen overall, like there's no questions 419 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 5: about him, but good player and so he's not. 420 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: Joel is a prospect at. 421 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 5: Right, but there's still a lot to like in a 422 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 5: path where you can see him becoming an NFL starter, 423 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 5: And so I see it similar with with Freeling and 424 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: Procter's a little more complicated, but man that the traits 425 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 5: and tools are outstanding. It's a huge Yeah, literally, I 426 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 5: mean it's no matter what listed at three sixty, we'll 427 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 5: see what he comes in at. Just a huge human. 428 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 5: But he's not overweight like he's he does look sloppy, No, 429 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 5: not at all, and so he's he's fascinating. It'll be 430 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 5: it'll be interesting. But I think your overall point is 431 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 5: is right that it's there's a lot of tackles in 432 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 5: that first round who could go at any point, and. 433 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: Like playoff teams might actually get tackles this year, which 434 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: is rare. 435 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 5: Well, and you know all thirty two teams need him, 436 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 5: right Yeah, Yeah, depth or starters, and so we're gonna 437 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 5: see those guys go pretty quickly. I'm go, you're talking 438 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 5: to the Browns guys six or twenty four they need 439 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 5: to tackle. You're gonna be sitting on the edge of 440 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 5: your seat hoping he falls a twenty four at Tackle's 441 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 5: gonna fall to twenty four if you don't take one 442 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 5: on six. 443 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: So it may need five offensive Well, yeah. 444 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 5: How many draftics they have because they need a lot 445 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 5: of help. 446 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 4: The great Dane Dane Brugler, the athletic. Thank you so 447 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: much for taking the time in the middle of a 448 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 4: big busy week here, and we'll be looking forward to 449 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 4: the beast here before too much longer. 450 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: Can't wait. Thanks guys, thank you. 451 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 4: Make sure you're checking out all his work. Thanks for 452 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 4: the time. We're gonna get to our first break here. 453 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 4: Matt and I will continue on Radio Row live in 454 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 4: Indianapolis at the Combine. It's the Drive Steelers Nation Radio 455 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 4: on the Steelers Audio Network. 456 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: This is live coverage of that twenty twenty six NFL 457 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: Combine on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers 458 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: Audio Network. 459 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 4: Back on Radio Row here, it's the Drive inside the 460 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: Indiana Convention Center, all part of our ongoing combine coverage 461 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: and our a list of guests can continues here. Kyle 462 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 4: Krabs locked on NFL scouting joining us. Kyle, thanks for 463 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 4: taking the time. How's it going so far this week? 464 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 7: It's good. Getting the feet wet. Yeah, I flew out 465 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 7: early with the winter storm that came through, so I 466 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 7: was getting cabin fever, just like ready for something to happen. 467 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 2: Okay, and then here we are, so we're good. Where's 468 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: home Philadelphia? Oh, wrong side of the state, but we'll 469 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: let's slide. 470 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 7: Burke's County originally Penn State grad So. 471 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 6: Okay, as long as you're not a Flyers fan, will 472 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 6: be all right, no, sir? Oh good, Okay, we're cool. 473 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 7: I did I actually do one semester at iup? 474 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: So I did you? Okay? 475 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 7: So Western Pa Education is where a fine institution. 476 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: Love it. 477 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 6: We had dayning on before. I'm probably going to ask 478 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 6: you a lot of the same questions. A lot of 479 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 6: it's going to center around wide receivers. Steelers are very 480 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 6: needy quarterback aside. I want to get to that. Are 481 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 6: you comfortable with twenty one? With these receivers situations? But 482 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 6: it seems like day two is really flush with them 483 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 6: as well. 484 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's kind of the seven on seven culture of 485 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 7: like young kids coming up through the game now, right, 486 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 7: is they get all this time on task and if 487 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 7: you're below North Carolina, you're outside year round doing seven 488 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 7: on seven stuff. So I think the byproduct of that 489 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 7: is you see these draft classes of wide receivers on 490 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 7: an annual basis where it's just deep, and I think 491 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 7: this year is another year that's like that. I think 492 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 7: the nice thing with Pittsburgh for where they're picking in 493 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 7: the first round is I'd be comfortable with any of 494 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 7: the wide receivers in this class. I don't know which 495 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 7: ones will make it down to twenty one. Yeah, but 496 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 7: you know, if you told me any of the perceived 497 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 7: top three guys with Jordan Tyson and Mackay Lemon and 498 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 7: Carnal Taate, you told me any one of those guys 499 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 7: was there, I think it's crazy. What's great value at 500 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 7: twenty one? Right? I think you get past that point. 501 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: I said, what about like Boston at twenty one? 502 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 7: I maybe a little early, but like I like Denzel Boston. 503 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 7: I think he can be like a nice X receiver 504 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 7: for somebody, and I love the physicality and the way 505 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 7: he tacks a ball in the air. So do you 506 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 7: want to play with twenty one? Can you get a 507 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 7: trade partner if you want to pick for need? And 508 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 7: that's always kind of slippery slope, So if you get 509 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 7: a no brainer in another spot, yeah, I think you 510 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 7: can come back in the second round. 511 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh obviously has a bunch of top one hard picks 512 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: this year. Yeah, three third in the top one hundred. 513 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 7: They've got that three coming for Dan Moore, and they're 514 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 7: they're well suited to to find value in one of 515 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 7: those spots. Do you have any day too favorite wide receivers? Man, 516 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 7: I don't know if he's gonna stay on day two, 517 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 7: but Armar Cooper from Indiana. 518 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 2: Is a lot right now? 519 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 7: Yes he does. And you know it was who was 520 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 7: it was? Tom mcshaye made a little bit of a 521 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 7: faster Jarvis Landry comparison. And I see the way that 522 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 7: he runs like I see Jarvis Landry there, So yeah, OK, 523 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 7: And just like his his the way that he moves, 524 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 7: he's he's fluid like Jarvis, and he's got good contact 525 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 7: bounce and he's a tough, tough player. I think he's 526 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 7: somebody that could really get a lot of gas because 527 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 7: a lot of the passing game at Indiana Sarrat was 528 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 7: the contested catch and back shoulder guy and they had 529 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 7: great chemist there and they spread the ball around pretty well. 530 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 7: I think Cooper has a chance to be with how 531 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 7: NFL offenses move their receivers around. Now, it's a little 532 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 7: bit less tight for a slot guy an outside guy. 533 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 7: There's a little bit more interchangeability there. I think he 534 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 7: could be a volume receiver at the NFL level. 535 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, he seems like I hate the term safe pick, 536 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 6: but it just seems like he translates quickly to the league. 537 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, and you think about Pittsburgh and kind of the 538 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 7: demeanor and the division and AFC North football, and he 539 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 7: kind of embodies some of that. So I think that 540 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 7: would be a really good fit if the stars aligned 541 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 7: from a pick perspective, And I don't think that's a 542 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 7: twenty one, but I don't know that he makes it 543 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 7: to the second round pick, so you might need the 544 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 7: stars to align for you in that regard. 545 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 6: So I don't think this applies to the Steelers, but 546 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 6: I'm kind of on the edge of my seat this 547 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 6: week to see who running back to and tight end 548 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 6: two might be. Do you think that's still to be 549 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 6: determined around the league and this week could go a 550 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 6: long way. 551 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: I think so. 552 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 7: I think the testing can really help. Where at running 553 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 7: back it's obviously Jeremi I Love, you know, his teammate 554 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 7: Price has a lot of fans, and I like the 555 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 7: way that he runs. I don't think he's super dynamic 556 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 7: as a player, but I think he's got good vision. 557 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 7: I think he runs hard, he's quick to get downhill. 558 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 7: I like Jonah Coleman from Washington as well. So I 559 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 7: think those are a couple of guys for me that 560 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 7: are in that conversation and if they. 561 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: Can from Nebraska sort of that mix too. 562 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 7: He's a good receiver, Yeah, he's a good receiver. He's 563 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 7: a good athlete. You seem in the open field when 564 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 7: he opens up his strides, how he can really go. 565 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 7: I think for me he's probably in that third round mix. 566 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 7: The question for running back to it almost reminds me 567 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 7: of was it fourteen or fifteen the Bishop Sankey year, 568 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 7: where it's like, oh yeah, when's anybody gonna get drafted? 569 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 7: And running back and like beyond Jeremiah Love, who mego 570 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 7: is early his top ten? It kind of feels like 571 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 7: that kind of class for me, where it could be 572 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 7: a wa There's not a lot of separation for those 573 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 7: guys and that might hurt them at that position. I 574 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 7: think it's tight end. It's it's a really intriguing class. Obviously. 575 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 7: Kenyon Sadik from from Oregon is the mark he named there, 576 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 7: and I think there's a lot of different skill sets, 577 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 7: so that might just come down to do you want 578 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 7: to why do you want a flex guy? Do you 579 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 7: want a guy like a Michael trig at a Baylor. 580 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 3: He's so intriguing to me. 581 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 7: He can play in the backfield or in the slot, 582 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 7: and he's got a ton and he's long right like 583 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 7: the catch rat. He's just really big there too, and 584 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 7: he's got these big, strong hands, a couple of these 585 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 7: outside of the body catches that he's had. If you're 586 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 7: just going off traits, I think that might be my 587 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 7: second favorite tight end in the class for the receiving 588 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 7: profile that he has. 589 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: Interesting. 590 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 5: I'm a big fan. 591 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 4: I know he's got some off the field stuff, but 592 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: just an absolutely dynamic, dynamic athlete. Let's talk some cornerbacks 593 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 4: with you here as well too. Some again interesting profiles 594 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: and types you've got someone like McCoy who was so 595 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 4: good two years ago but then didn't see the field 596 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 4: last year with injuries. Maybe not the nailed on top 597 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 4: six or seven pick in this group, but what feels 598 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 4: like in that middle of the first some really strong 599 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 4: candidates and we could see at some point, maybe around 600 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 4: pick tennis, a real run at that position. 601 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 7: Yeah. I think you think about Cincinnati and Miami at 602 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 7: ten and eleven as two teams, that corner makes a 603 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 7: ton of sense for both both teams. It's a question 604 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 7: of does does positional value drive any or dispositional scarcity 605 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 7: I should say drive any other It's a team not 606 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 7: confident that an offensive tackle is going to get back 607 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 7: to him in the top ten. If they pick in 608 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 7: the top ten the next time they come around, does 609 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 7: that create a domino effect where those guys might trickle 610 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 7: down into the teams a little bit. But McCoy is 611 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 7: super physically talented. I think he's the most physically talented 612 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 7: corner in the class. I think I like mansword Delane 613 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 7: a little more as far as the football intelligence than 614 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 7: which he plays the game with and how fast he 615 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 7: sees things. And I think he's a really clean player. 616 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 7: For run support and tackling. He's not an electric athlete 617 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 7: the way that I think Jermal McCoy has that like 618 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 7: raw physical ability. But I think the lane is the 619 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 7: one that I would feel most comfortable with being a 620 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 7: quality starter quickly in the NFL, because I mean with 621 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 7: McCoy in the misstime that he had this past year, 622 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 7: it is an extra kind of gap in the resume that. 623 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 7: That's what this whole process is about, right, is identifying 624 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 7: risks and why you might have more of a concern 625 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 7: for guy and what breaks those ties if guys are 626 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 7: in the same bucket. 627 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 6: Okay, So we just had Dane Brugler on too, and 628 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 6: we were asking him about corners and he kind of said, 629 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 6: I like the day two guys a. 630 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: Lot, but after that it looks like a big drop off. 631 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 6: If you're going to get one, probably need to use 632 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 6: one the top three round three round picks. 633 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: Do you agree with that too? 634 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's probably close to a dozen in 635 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 7: the top one hundred that you know. If you told 636 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 7: me Chris Johnson from San Diego State, it's a big 637 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 7: physical guy. I really thought Davison and Banosen from Ohio 638 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 7: State had a much better year this year than what 639 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 7: he did the previous year, cleaned up the penalties. 640 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: Think he's a Day two guy. 641 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 7: I think so. I mean he he runs, while he 642 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 7: was awesome at the Senior Bowl. As far as being 643 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 7: the it kind of reminded me of Tyreek Stevenson out 644 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 7: of University of Miami when he came in and was 645 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 7: super physical at the Senior Bowl that year and he 646 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 7: got himself drafted in the second round. Like, I don't 647 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 7: know that igban Osen will go in the second round, 648 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 7: but I think he's helped himself that plus the tape 649 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 7: being cleaner and a little bit more disciplined with his hands, 650 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 7: Okay that I would expect. His physical profile, his combativeness, 651 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 7: the way that disrupts, he disrupts routes, I could very 652 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 7: easily see him going in like late round two, early 653 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 7: round three. 654 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: Interesting a couple more minutes here with Kyle Krabs locked 655 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 4: on NFL scouting defensive tackle position that we're kind of 656 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 4: keeping an eye on. The Steelers did go there with 657 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: their first round pick last year and Derek Harmon, but 658 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: we saw them not too long ago go back to 659 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: back offensive tackles. I think it's certainly a possibility this year, 660 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: particularly with this group, because there's not the it doesn't 661 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 4: feel that there's certainly not the Mason Graham or you know, 662 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 4: someone who's who's going to go in the top ten 663 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 4: and around that range. Harmon was the fourth D defensive 664 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 4: tackle off the board last year. Could the Steelers have 665 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 4: their choice of DT one at pick twenty one? Woods, 666 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 4: you know, Lee Hunter, Caleb Banks. Do you think we 667 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: could really see the first twenty picks go by without 668 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 4: one of those true interior guys coming off the board. 669 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 7: I think I'd be surprised if any of them did 670 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 7: go in the top Bundy like that, you know. And 671 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 7: I know Peter Woods has such a nice foundation of 672 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 7: skills to. 673 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: Work with, and I know he should shine here, right. 674 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 7: I would imagine so. And I know he looked like 675 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 7: he trimmed down a little bit this year versus the 676 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 7: previous year, and they put him in some different alignments, 677 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 7: and that whole Clemson defense was kind of just a 678 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 7: hot mess this past year. So I get it. 679 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: It's hard to judge that Clemson. 680 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a really weird It's like that in Penn State. 681 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 7: You know, those are two programs that you see the 682 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 7: individual talents but the sum of the product was not 683 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 7: where it needed to be. But for Woods, I could 684 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 7: see him going in the top twenty, but I didn't 685 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,479 Speaker 7: think he had as strong of a season this year 686 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 7: as he. I was hoping to see the leap, like 687 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 7: he reminds me of another Clemson defense to tackle and 688 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 7: some of what he's physically capable of doing in Christian Wilkins, 689 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 7: who was a top fifteen draft choice for Miami in 690 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 7: twenty nineteen. But Christian was really good with the block 691 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 7: deconstruction stuff, and then he would just kind of get 692 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 7: caught with his pads high, and it took him a 693 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 7: couple of years in the NFL to keep the pad 694 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 7: level down to really make the leap in which he 695 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 7: got like a twenty seven million dollar year contracted free 696 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 7: agency and Peter I thought got stuck on blocks a 697 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 7: little bit more often this season, and I was surprised 698 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 7: to not see the leap there. So this event should 699 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 7: be a great opportunity for him to maybe show some 700 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 7: clarity as far as why that was when he sits 701 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 7: down and has the meetings with the teams and talks 702 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 7: about that, because he talked about Matt that that whole unit. 703 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 7: It just didn't pass the sniffs or what the chemistry 704 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 7: was versus the talent, and you know, teams are I'm 705 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 7: sure looking to compartmentalize that disassociation here in India. 706 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 6: Okay, last thing I got for you is kind of 707 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 6: off draft topic, But you're also dowed in with the 708 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 6: Miami Dolphins. 709 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, what would it take. 710 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 6: The Steelers to bring Menca back or could Wattle be 711 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 6: on the move? 712 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 7: I would be surprised if they move Wattle from everything 713 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 7: that I have heard, both publicly and privately, the Dolphins 714 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 7: really feel like he is a foundational building block of 715 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 7: the roster. I think it would take a godfather offer 716 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 7: for him to get pride away. I don't think they 717 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 7: have a great appetite to move him. And John R. Seldam, 718 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 7: the new general manager, his his background. He played wide 719 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 7: receiver in college, so like that, that's kind of a spot. Yeah, 720 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 7: So I think Wattle is probably in play for Miami 721 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 7: barring some kind of massive offer. And I think for Minca, 722 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 7: I thought he was great this year and I was surprised, 723 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 7: all yeah, and it's because they were willing to move 724 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 7: him down close to the line of scrimmage. And I 725 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 7: know that's always like a fine balance for Minco with Miami. 726 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 7: He didn't want to live on the second labe to Pittsburgh. 727 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 4: They play a lot of people do that in the wintertime, guys. 728 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: It's just vice versa. He wants to go play up north. 729 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: In the he did play closer to the line. He 730 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: was just a middle guy. 731 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, so they kind of had this juggling. I think 732 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 7: they were on their sixth nickel player by week eight 733 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 7: last year. So and it became a. 734 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 6: Guy I like to in the free agent market. Yeah, 735 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 6: no one knows who is around here, but he's a 736 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 6: good player. 737 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 7: Kako who's a very good player and inside outside corner. Now, 738 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 7: what's the recovery like from the acl that he had 739 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 7: the first weekend in training camp. That will probably dictate 740 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 7: whether or not he has a market at all. But 741 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 7: if you want somebody who can tackle, can play man coverage, 742 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 7: can disrupt her oute timing. Uh, he's gonna be twenty eight, 743 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 7: so he doesn't have like a long shelf life because 744 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 7: that age thirty for corners is such an unforgiving, you know, 745 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 7: age for a lot of guys. But he's a really 746 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 7: good player when he's healthy. 747 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: There's a couple of Dolphins on my eye on for 748 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: the Steelers, and he's one of them. 749 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, last one for you. 750 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 7: Uh. 751 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 4: John er Eric Sullivan at the podium earlier said, I 752 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: believe it was everything's on the table regarding Tua. 753 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 3: What do you think his future looks like here in 754 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 3: the next few months. 755 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, so I don't think he's back in Miami. I 756 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 7: think the Dolphins have kind of accepted the fact that 757 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 7: there's going to be sunk cost with this situation. They're 758 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 7: either going to designate him as a post June first 759 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 7: cut when the league year starts on March eleventh, or 760 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 7: I could see them potentially holding him on the roster 761 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 7: through the draft and into the summertime to see if 762 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 7: a team strikes out on a quarterback in the draft 763 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 7: in a creation injury or maybe there's an injury, and 764 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 7: maybe then you can get somebody to pay eight to 765 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 7: ten million dollars of the contract and the trade and 766 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 7: you eat the other forty four million of it. 767 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 6: You don't think it could be like an Austweiler deal 768 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 6: where it's like two and a third for a seventh. 769 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 7: I'd be just because John eRx Selvan's talked about how 770 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 7: the draft picks are like the lifeblood of franchise. 771 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: That's the more importantly. 772 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 7: He's already talked about they need to get two or 773 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 7: three more draft picks, so he's not selling it. I 774 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 7: would be stunned if they sent a premium pick out 775 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 7: just to offload the money because they're not going to 776 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 7: be active in free agency because their cap situation anyway. 777 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 6: But would make it cost four We can we can 778 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 6: talk about Okay, people call your people. 779 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm. 780 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 4: Gonna make him enough or he can't refuse. I mean, 781 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 4: you drop a Godfather reference. That's right in our wheelhouse. 782 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 4: We love it. Great stuff. Kyle Krabs locked on NFL Scouting. 783 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 4: Make sure you're checking out all his work there. Thanks 784 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 4: for taking the time in a busy week, of course, 785 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 4: great chat. 786 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 2: We enjoy enjoy the combine. It's a blast. 787 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 4: It is, certainly is. It can be a little warmer outside, 788 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 4: but we're just getting warmed up in here. It is 789 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 4: the Drive live on Radio Row inside the Indiana Convention Center, 790 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 4: West Ruler Matt Williamson, Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers 791 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: Audio Network. 792 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: This is live coverreach of that twenty twenty six NFL 793 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: combine on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers 794 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: audio network. 795 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 4: Rolling along here it is The Drive Live from Indianapolis, 796 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 4: the Indy five hundred ish edition of The Drive here 797 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 4: live on. 798 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 2: Radio Row Furious. 799 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 4: That's one thing we've done most of the things here 800 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 4: in our decade of time, and step in a week 801 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 4: here every February. And I know February is not necessarily 802 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 4: racing season in the North, but high would I would 803 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 4: like to get over to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway at 804 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 4: some point. 805 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 3: Check it out. 806 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 6: I bet it's Yeah. I'm an f I've become an 807 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 6: F one fan the last two years or so. I 808 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 6: don't know much about Indy, but I bet it's a blast. 809 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 6: One of our Bowl games when I was a pit though, 810 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 6: was at Charlotte and we went to the Charlotte Snide 811 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 6: Way and all the players, including myselves and the coaches 812 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 6: did three laps in the car. Yeah, that's cool. There 813 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 6: were a couple of linement that couldn't get in the window. 814 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure much. 815 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 3: Tighter than you think. 816 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 6: That's like being a professional driver doing three laps like 817 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 6: this is pretty cool. 818 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 5: Cool. 819 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely, It's shocking how steep those banks are too, I 820 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 6: believe it. 821 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, You're like, it'd be hard to walk up. 822 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, walk up, Like wow, that's one of those 823 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 4: things like it's I I don't sit around and watch 824 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 4: NASCAR F one or anything on TV, but I think 825 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 4: being there would be it would be so much fun. 826 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 4: We are here in Indianapolis all week. A little bit 827 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 4: of a shorter segment here as we had two great 828 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 4: guests and uh and and Dane Brugler and Kyle Krabs 829 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 4: to kick off our coverage here of the Drive live 830 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 4: from Radio Row. Matt just some some GM news of 831 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 4: the day, because it is a little funny the way 832 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 4: this whole process works. Today is by far the busiest 833 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 4: day on Radio Row. 834 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, GM day And yeah. 835 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 4: But the players aren't don't actually get on the fields 836 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 4: for workouts until Thursday, so we're still two days away. 837 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 4: I think they are well, and they do media. I 838 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 4: think it's a defensive line and linebackers. I want to say, 839 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 4: they do medical and media stuff today and tomorrow and 840 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 4: then yeah, no one is actually on the field, the 841 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 4: on field portion of this until Thursday. 842 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 2: But today is the busiest. 843 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 4: Gone pretty much and that half of this, That's where 844 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 4: I was going with this is you think it would 845 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 4: be crazier towards the back half of the week when 846 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 4: all the on field stuff is going on. 847 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 5: But it's the opposite. 848 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 4: It's crazier today because that's when all the gms and 849 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 4: the head coaches speak. 850 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's why everybody, including us come when we do, 851 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 6: you know, exactly. Gms don't want to be speaking while 852 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 6: they should be watching. 853 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: Drill exactly right, exactly right. 854 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 4: So with that, we will Omar Kahn, he spoke at 855 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 4: the podium earlier. He spoke to Matt and Rob on 856 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 4: S and R this morning. We will hear a little 857 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 4: bit from Omar Kahn in our three of this show, Matt. 858 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 4: But plenty of gms around the NFL speaking today with that. 859 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't caught up with any of it. I'm 860 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: sure there's some nuggets here and there. There is. 861 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 4: If one of those was what we just discussed with Kyle, 862 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 4: that the Dolphins saying everything's on the table with Tua, 863 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 4: that's one of those everything's on the table is pretty 864 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 4: non committal, you know, which makes me think that there's 865 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 4: a really good chance he's not back there. 866 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 5: I'd be sure here, Yeah. 867 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 6: And I thought that even before Kyle mentioned it. I 868 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 6: can't imagine him being part of the plan. 869 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 2: I agree with you on that new coaching staff, you know. 870 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 4: And speaking of speculation around a quarterback, according to the 871 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 4: Houston Texans Nick Cassaro, their GM, any trade talk regarding CJ. 872 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 4: Stroud is quote moronic and not something, not something that 873 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 4: they're considering. He's going to be playing quarterback for the 874 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 4: Houston Texans in twenty twenty six. We are not trading 875 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 4: that guy. 876 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 6: He's our quarterback, which also thinks makes me think. I mean, 877 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 6: he's in the Progerck Jones class where it's five year, 878 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 6: fifth year option time, but it's also but the quarterback 879 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 6: you usually just don't fifth year option them and then 880 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 6: become a lame duck after that. I think it's extension 881 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 6: time for Stroud. I understand how poorly he played. I 882 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 6: was a big believer and warned people, you know, before 883 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,439 Speaker 6: the Steelers Texans playoff game, this guy's a lot better 884 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 6: than he's given credit for. 885 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: And then he didn't play like that. 886 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 3: And at all aid some of the worst games of 887 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 3: his career. 888 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 6: Two back to back ones that mattered most. But I 889 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 6: think it's still pretty easy decision for them. 890 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you build around. 891 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 4: Him, even the you know, quote unquote risk of giving 892 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 4: him a long term extension feels like less of a 893 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 4: risk than let's go thoor number two option, right. 894 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 6: I mean the risk is you end up like the 895 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 6: Dolphins are with, you know, like they gave him an extension, 896 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 6: it didn't work out, and now you're really hamstrung. It's 897 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 6: hard to get out of. But you can also get 898 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 6: I don't like door number at all round, yeah, because 899 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 6: I think door number and door number one. Stroud is 900 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 6: better than he showed great. 901 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 2: I think he's a franchise quarterback, twelve of them around. 902 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 3: I'm with you on that. 903 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 5: He's still in his mid twenties. 904 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 4: He's still he's still got plenty of time to figure 905 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 4: it out. 906 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 2: And they never really give him a running game. 907 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 4: That would that would certainly help. More kind of quarterback 908 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 4: centric news here. A new Atlanta Falcons GM Ian Cunningham 909 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 4: informed Kirk Cousins and the media recently that the team 910 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 4: will release him on the first day of the new 911 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 4: league year, which will be March eleventh. 912 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 6: Okay, so it does me he can't come back on 913 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 6: March twelfth, absolutely right. It's a lot of contractual stuff. 914 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 4: But Kirk Cousins will at least seemingly oh, and he 915 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 4: added that they won't re sign him. 916 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 5: He said that is. 917 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 2: Thought he might come back in that same capacity. 918 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 4: And I guess, hey, you never know, and there's you know, yeah, 919 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 4: not everybody. Everything they say at the podium ends up, 920 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 4: you know. 921 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 3: One being sure, that's definitely party, you know. 922 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 4: That's just part of this this business and operation. But 923 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 4: he will be released, according to Ian Cunningham on March eleventh, 924 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 4: and won't be re signed. 925 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 6: Okay, I don't know that he will have much of 926 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 6: a market, but I couldn't see him in Minnesota, you know, 927 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 6: kind of chaperoning a McCarthy or something like that. That's 928 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 6: why I thought Atlanta might want to bring him back. 929 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 6: My hunches. They just want to dig into pendix and say, sinker. 930 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 5: Swim, sinker swim. 931 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 6: You know, that's why you're here. What I find interesting 932 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 6: and not great from a Falcons perspective, as many of 933 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 6: us criticize them, just to get cousins huge money, and 934 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 6: then you use the early first on a quarterback, and 935 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 6: the Falcons rebottle was, well, yeah, but no, we'll be 936 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,919 Speaker 6: set at quarterback for years to come. Well here we said, 937 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 6: we're not set a quarterback for years to come. 938 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 4: You know, it's a very difficult process to nail. Yeah, finding, procuring, 939 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 4: developing your franchise quarterback, and then finally Matt, oh, you 940 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 4: know what, Actually, we need to get to a break here. 941 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 4: We'll do a couple more of the news of the 942 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 4: day type things. When we return on the other side, 943 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 4: we'll continue to nab some guests. 944 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 5: We're gonna hear. 945 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 4: We're gonna catch up with our buddy Q Myers from 946 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 4: Locked On Raiders, get his thoughts on Patrick Graham and 947 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza. So plenty more to get to. One hour 948 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 4: in the books, two hours still to go here live 949 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 4: on Radio Row. It is a on location edition of 950 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 4: The Drive. We are inside the Indiana Convention Center, all 951 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 4: part of our ongoing coverage of the twenty twenty six 952 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 4: NFL scouting Combine. West Shuuler, Matt Williamson, Steelers Nation Radio 953 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 4: on the Steelers Audio Network