WEBVTT - How did the Sears catalog take over the world?

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, mango? What's that? Will? You will not believe

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<v Speaker 1>what I found when I was looking through this old

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<v Speaker 1>box of things from my childhood. So what's that? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna show it to you? Ready for this? What

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<v Speaker 1>is that? A calculator? Why that? It is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most coveted items in elementary school back in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>Were these a big deal in Delaware? Of course they were.

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<v Speaker 1>They definitely were in Alabama. And you know where I

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<v Speaker 1>got it? Where's that? The Sears catalog? Did you used

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<v Speaker 1>to look through the old Sears catalog? Yeah? I used

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<v Speaker 1>to thump through it. Oh man. It was so huge

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<v Speaker 1>for us. And for some reason, I never saw it

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<v Speaker 1>in my own house. I think my parents must have

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<v Speaker 1>just been good at making it disappears something. But at

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<v Speaker 1>mama's house, you know, a grandmother has to have this

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<v Speaker 1>on the coffee table. She always had it sitting out

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<v Speaker 1>and I would thumb through seriously every page of it,

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<v Speaker 1>circling things like remote control cars, ThunderCats figures. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>I got the light, right, so many awesome toys in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's really something so magical about it, all right? And

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<v Speaker 1>did you did you see my calculator. Watch I get

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<v Speaker 1>that on my face. Anyway, as the holidays are approaching,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about the old Sears catalog recently and

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<v Speaker 1>wondering how did it become such a big deal and

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the weirdest things ever offered in it?

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of weird, we talked about doing this topic

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<v Speaker 1>months ago and it's just so strange that, seriously, it

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<v Speaker 1>is just by accident that this ends up publishing on

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday. So anyway, that's what we'll be talking about today.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get started hei their podcast listeners, Welcome the part

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<v Speaker 1>time Genius. I'm Will Pearson and it's always I'm joined

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<v Speaker 1>by my good friend man guest and sitting on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the soundproof class man. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've noticed this, but Kristen has this fancy new

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<v Speaker 1>office chair out there. I think it's an executive chair.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like high back and everything. Wow. That's our friend

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<v Speaker 1>and producer Tristan McNeil. And on today's show, we're ushering

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<v Speaker 1>in the holiday shopping season with a fun look back

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<v Speaker 1>at the golden age of Sears. Now, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>no secret that the iconic American retailer has seen its

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<v Speaker 1>better days, and in fact, there's a good chance you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't stepped foot in a Sear store and quite some time,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe even never at all. But you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and thirty one years under the company's belt,

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<v Speaker 1>we thought, why focus on the negative exactly, So instead

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna explore the solid hundred years or so when

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<v Speaker 1>Sears was at the top of its game, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>cover some of the company's breakthrough ideas and not get

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of how a humble mail order service became

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<v Speaker 1>this massive retail giant. You know. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>mention upfront that today's episode works is kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>companion to the show we did on Amazon just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago. And it's not to say that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have listened to that one, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have to listen, you do. Okay, stop, now, go back

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to that one. But you know, they're all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of interesting parallels between the two companies. So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you are better off if you're up to date

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<v Speaker 1>on Amazon. Yeah, and and that's really one of the

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<v Speaker 1>great things about a company has long lived as Sears

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<v Speaker 1>like it takes on all this added historical value that

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<v Speaker 1>makes it way more interesting than like your typical retail

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<v Speaker 1>chan and so for younger companies, Series is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>this primer of what a business should and shouldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>in order to weather the ups and downs of the

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<v Speaker 1>American economy. But series is longevity also makes it useful

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<v Speaker 1>in other ways to like take the company's famous catalogs,

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<v Speaker 1>those at up being these great visual records of how

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<v Speaker 1>our society, styles and habits have changed over the last

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<v Speaker 1>century and a half. It was interesting reading up on

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<v Speaker 1>this something I had not thought about before. But often

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<v Speaker 1>producers will use Sears catalogs as references when they're working

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<v Speaker 1>on period films or Broadway shows. You know, they're also

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<v Speaker 1>a good way to find costumes or props that are

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<v Speaker 1>true to the era being depicted. And it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood either, you know, historians rely on the catalogs to

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<v Speaker 1>look back and kind of get an accurate timeline of

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<v Speaker 1>when certain products or styles first appeared. Yeah, that's pretty awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>and those catalogs are such a big part of the

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<v Speaker 1>series legacy. We should definitely talk more about them. But

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<v Speaker 1>first I want to go back to the pre catalog

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<v Speaker 1>days and get a sense of how series really got

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<v Speaker 1>to start, all right, So I'll set the scene here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's eighteen eighty six, and you've got a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two year old man named Richard Sears, and he's working

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<v Speaker 1>as a telegraph off operator and a station agent at

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<v Speaker 1>a railroad in Minnesota. It's kind of a boring job,

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<v Speaker 1>but the downtime allows Sears to start a side gig,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's selling lumber and coal just to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>supplement his income. Well, one day, a shipment of pocket

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<v Speaker 1>watches comes in, but the local jeweler refuses to sign

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<v Speaker 1>for it. It was pretty common in those days that

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<v Speaker 1>the companies would send these unsolicited merchandise to small town retailers.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd they'd act like it was this accidental shipment and

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<v Speaker 1>then say, you know, but you can have it at

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<v Speaker 1>this deeply discounted price. But he sends this opportunity for

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<v Speaker 1>this new side business. So Sears buys the unwanted watches

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<v Speaker 1>well below cost for himself. He then proceeds to sell

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<v Speaker 1>to other railroad workers up and down the line. Of

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<v Speaker 1>the next few months, he turned this fifty dollar investment

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<v Speaker 1>into a five thousand dollar profit. Yeah, it's an amazing story.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me pick it up here. He's emboldened by

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of result, right, So Sears decides to take

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<v Speaker 1>a stab at the American dream. He quits his job,

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<v Speaker 1>orders more watches, and then starts to R. W. Sears

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<v Speaker 1>Watch Company with in six months, then a year later

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<v Speaker 1>his business is booming. So he moved the company to

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago and he starts producing this mail order catalog. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>admittedly the series catalog starts small. It's less than a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pages, and it advertises nothing but watches. A hundred

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<v Speaker 1>pages of watches. Yeah, but but but then it also

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<v Speaker 1>guarantees something revolutionary. And that's the first ever unconditional money

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<v Speaker 1>back guarantee. So as many times you see that, like

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<v Speaker 1>on TV or whatever, this all started with Sears. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting. I mean, it's a great idea from a

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<v Speaker 1>marketing perspective, no question. And you know, it added a

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<v Speaker 1>nice sense of security to the prospect of these people

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of seeing it as sending strangers money through

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<v Speaker 1>the mail. And but but in practice, this revolutionary policy

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<v Speaker 1>turned into a huge headache for Sears. Happened pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was making thousands of dollars from watch

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<v Speaker 1>sales each month, but the cost of these refunds and

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<v Speaker 1>the replacements, it really started to eat into these profits.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was pretty smart about it. So what he

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<v Speaker 1>did next was he hired someone to repair the defective watches,

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<v Speaker 1>which would make it much cheaper than you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>for him to be able to honor this guarantee. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's when alvat Roebuck enters the picture. He's this

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<v Speaker 1>watchmaker and repairman who he quickly becomes Sears full blown partner,

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<v Speaker 1>and together they expanded the business to include all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of other products. So you've got jewelry than supporting goods,

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<v Speaker 1>quickly moves into clothing, bicycles, uh, you know, lots of

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<v Speaker 1>household products. You don't want to name every single one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. I could. So Actually at this point, was

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<v Speaker 1>it was Sears still all male order, or if they

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<v Speaker 1>already entered the physical store space as well. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>Sears actually didn't open a brick and mortar store until

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<v Speaker 1>for its first thirty years, it was strictly a catalog company,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a great business model for them because

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<v Speaker 1>nearly two thirds of the country's population lived in these

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<v Speaker 1>rural regions. This was back in the eighteen nineties, but

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<v Speaker 1>they decided to capitalize on this newly completed railroad system,

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<v Speaker 1>and through that, Sears and Roebuck were able to build

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<v Speaker 1>this loyal customer base in parts of the country that

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<v Speaker 1>had the most untapped market potential. Yeah. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest competition for oil order in those days came from

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<v Speaker 1>these general stores scattered through American small towns, and because

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<v Speaker 1>most of those were either under stocked or overpriced, it

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<v Speaker 1>really weren't that much of a threat. Well yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if anything, the general stores were the ones in danger.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I read that the store owners in some

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<v Speaker 1>towns started offering prizes to local kids who would bring

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<v Speaker 1>in copies of the Sears catalogs. And it wasn't that

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<v Speaker 1>the shopkeepers were interested in like studying the competition or

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<v Speaker 1>matching their prices. They just wanted to get all these

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<v Speaker 1>things and then have these huge public bonfires where they

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<v Speaker 1>would burn all the catalogs. That's pretty extreme, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean serious. Stated goal was to save consumers money by

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<v Speaker 1>cutting out the middleman, and those general stores were the middleman.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't series is only competition. They had already

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<v Speaker 1>come under attack from other mail order retailers like you

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<v Speaker 1>know Montgomery Ward. They had actually been selling city goods

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<v Speaker 1>to rural clients for about twenty plus years before Sears

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<v Speaker 1>got into the business. That's right, Montgomery Ward. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it has less of a presence today than Sears, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of easy to forget that they were actually

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<v Speaker 1>the first on this mail order scene. Yeah, and as

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<v Speaker 1>you'd expect, the companies were arrivals from the start, though,

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<v Speaker 1>Sears grew so rapidly that it started to outpace Montgomery

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<v Speaker 1>Award in the eighteen nineties. By nine hundred, Sears of

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<v Speaker 1>sales had reached ten million dollars versus Wards about nine

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars. I mean, the rivalry had grown unfriendly by

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<v Speaker 1>that point too. So you know, Sears supposedly made his

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<v Speaker 1>catalogs shorter and narrower so that they'd stick out from

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<v Speaker 1>the Ward catalogs. Like when customers would stack the catalogs

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<v Speaker 1>at home, the smaller series catalog would always end up

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<v Speaker 1>on top. Oh, it's pretty clever. I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how that worked, but that that makes sense, alright.

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<v Speaker 1>So so obviously, the railroad was a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>Sears success, as was the case for many American companies

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<v Speaker 1>of that era, but we should give a shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to the postal system, which you know, it gave mail

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<v Speaker 1>order companies a huge boost in eighteen ninety six, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when the Postal Service started guaranteeing mail to all

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<v Speaker 1>rural areas, so no matter where someone lived, they were

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to get their mail there, and so it made

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<v Speaker 1>it much easier for Sears and its competitors to get

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<v Speaker 1>their catalogs into these homes of even most out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way customers. Of course, the Postal Service didn't start

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<v Speaker 1>shipping packages until you know, a few years later in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirteen, so customers still had to go to their

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<v Speaker 1>nearest railroad station in order to pick up their orders.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, getting the catalogs at home at least

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<v Speaker 1>save them the trouble of having to go to these

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<v Speaker 1>distant post offices or higher private carriers just to bring

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<v Speaker 1>them their mail. Definitely, and I can't imagine having to

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<v Speaker 1>walk miles to a post office just to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>like what we think of his junk mail today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it is. It's interesting to think of it

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<v Speaker 1>that way now, But those catalogs we're we're not considered

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<v Speaker 1>junk mail at all in the nineteenth century. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they actually served a purpose not too dissimilar from how

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<v Speaker 1>we use the internet today. You know, you've had anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>at any time people could flip through the pages of

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<v Speaker 1>a catalog and learn about a new piece of technology

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<v Speaker 1>or some breakthrough product, and then they could buy it

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves if they wanted to. And in fact, that's

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<v Speaker 1>another way the postal system helped the mail order industry.

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<v Speaker 1>So they allowed Sears catalog to be shipped for just

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<v Speaker 1>one cent per pound because they were considered public aids

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<v Speaker 1>and the spread of knowledge. I know, I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds silly at first, like what could be crasser than

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<v Speaker 1>a company trying to pass off advertisements of some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of educational service, But I guess if you put yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in the shoes of someone living in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>Wyoming way back in the eighteen nineties, like a serious

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<v Speaker 1>catalog really would be this window to a world you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't otherwise see. And the catalogs were definitely meant to

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<v Speaker 1>advertise products and make money, but consumer education was in

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<v Speaker 1>the mix as well. Yeah, And you know, you sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>hear that Sears taught Americans how to shop, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>clearly some truth to that for millions of shoppers, this

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<v Speaker 1>year's catalog was kind of their first introduction to mail

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<v Speaker 1>order services, and for better or worse, the catalog also

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<v Speaker 1>played a role in the development of America's consumer culture. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds right to me, especially when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>how the catalog ballooned year after years more products were added.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in the early nineteen hundreds, the Sears catalog

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<v Speaker 1>was over five hundred pages, and at its peak in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifteen, the General Merchandise Catalog, it's swelled over twelve

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pages. Whoa nine year old will would have been

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<v Speaker 1>so jealous of that. Somebody paid so many circles. So

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<v Speaker 1>it included a hundred thousand items, weighed four pounds, and

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<v Speaker 1>brought the company over a hundred million dollars in annual sales.

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<v Speaker 1>Good lord, but so wait, you said that the catalog's

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<v Speaker 1>peak was in nineteen fifteen, so it started shrinking after

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<v Speaker 1>that was more than a hundred years ago. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>the nation had urbanized quite a bit by then, and

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<v Speaker 1>cars were becoming the rage, and suddenly rural consumers were

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<v Speaker 1>moving to cities where easy access to stores lessen their

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<v Speaker 1>need for mail order services, and Sears kept track with

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<v Speaker 1>the shifting market until nineteen twenty five, when it responded

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<v Speaker 1>by opening their first physical department stores. Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth mentioning that by by this point, Richard Sears

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<v Speaker 1>and Alva Roebuck we were out of the picture. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Roebuck had sold his interest in the company decades earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sears had retired back in nineteen o eight passed

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<v Speaker 1>away in nineteen fourteen. So rather than Sears himself, the

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<v Speaker 1>company's hugely successful for a into brick and mortar was

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<v Speaker 1>really overseen by General Robert E. Wood. Now, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a military man. That might seem like a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a random pick, but he'd actually been a procurement

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<v Speaker 1>officer back in the Panama can Now projects, so he

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<v Speaker 1>did have a lot of logistics background, another background that

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<v Speaker 1>really helped him think about how the company would grow.

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<v Speaker 1>There's actually a Storian here in Atlanta named Jerry Hancock,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was on an episode of Stuff You Missed

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<v Speaker 1>in History Class, which you guys should check out. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a really really interesting episode. But he talks about

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<v Speaker 1>woods contribution in this way. He says, basically, what Wood

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<v Speaker 1>did was he set up a territory system and divided

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<v Speaker 1>the nation into five territories. He supplied those five territories

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<v Speaker 1>by these ten distribution plants combined with retail stores. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you go you can still see the remnants of

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<v Speaker 1>these plants and how they fill orders with these huge conveyors,

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<v Speaker 1>these big spiraling shoots. Each floor would get a ticket

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever items, and they would have the merchandise divided

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<v Speaker 1>by floor and they would fill each order. And in

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom would be this massive mail room where all

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<v Speaker 1>the items would be collected and bundled together, and then

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<v Speaker 1>literally on the back of the building was a railroad.

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<v Speaker 1>They would put the items into the train and ship

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<v Speaker 1>them out. I mean, it's an amazing process and it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds so ahead of its time, but full disclosure. Will

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually work in one of Wood's old distribution

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<v Speaker 1>plans here in Atlanta, and nowadays it's this mixed use facility,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can still find traces of the building's industrial

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<v Speaker 1>past here and it's a great place to work, with

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<v Speaker 1>a great Raman restaurant downstairs. And so general, would we

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<v Speaker 1>salute you? Okay, So I know we're getting into sears

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<v Speaker 1>breaking bortar phase now, but if I'm honest, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really ready to leave the catalog behind just yet. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do you say we take a break and then

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<v Speaker 1>we can check out some of the craziest stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>ever grace the Sears catalog. Sounds like a plan to me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to part time genius and we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how Sears managed to build a retail empire on the

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<v Speaker 1>foundation of mail order catalogs. All right, Mango, So what's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the weirdest products you came across while rummaging

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<v Speaker 1>through your huge collection of old Sears catalogs? So this

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<v Speaker 1>might be cheating, but I actually found a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>these really outrageous medicines, you know, the quackery that was

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<v Speaker 1>all the rage in the nineteenth century America. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, if you preface something by saying this

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<v Speaker 1>might be cheating, it most definitely is cheating. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always game for some medical quackery. So so what did

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<v Speaker 1>you find out? So one of the absolute worst remedies

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<v Speaker 1>has to be this one offered in the Spring catalog.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Brown's Vegetable Cure for female weakness. Which can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine trying to market something like that today? I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine that would go over very well. No. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have no clue what was even in the stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>But Sears sold it in big bottles for sixty cents

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<v Speaker 1>of pop, and according to the writ up, they could

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<v Speaker 1>cure everything from mental cramps to back pain to really

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying stuff. So here's some of the quotes it cures.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote A dread from some impending evil, a craving for

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<v Speaker 1>unnatural food, and sparks before the eyes. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a craving for un natural food, you could just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have some of this. Brown's vegetable cure for

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<v Speaker 1>female weakness takes care of that. This is so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I not remember hearing about any epidemics of sparks before

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<v Speaker 1>the eyes. Such a strange thing. Yeah, so you might

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<v Speaker 1>be right. And the Atlas like fifty symptoms that supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>treats another terrible product. This is uh also aimed at

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<v Speaker 1>female customers. It was Dr Roses French arsenic complexion wafers.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Now, that just sounds made up. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to read it cause I couldn't remember, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wish it was. It is not made up. These

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<v Speaker 1>were toxic wafers that promised to rejuvenate quote even the

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<v Speaker 1>coarsest and most repulsive skin. And you knew they were

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<v Speaker 1>toxic too, because the very first words in the ad

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<v Speaker 1>coffee are quote perfectly harmless and big bold, not suspicious

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I like how they draw attention to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that these aren't your typical round of the mill

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<v Speaker 1>arsenic waivers, you know, like you might just find around

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<v Speaker 1>the corner. I mean these these are French arsenic wafers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can poison yourself in style here. Yeah. So the

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<v Speaker 1>ad tries to distract from the poison with all these

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<v Speaker 1>references to the magical effects of the wafers and how

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<v Speaker 1>users will experience quote the wizard's touch. Sears must have

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty confident because they recommended women start ordering them

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen boxes at a time, which would have been

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<v Speaker 1>twelve arsenic wave Wow. That is a lot of arsenic.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, you do have to remember it was

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<v Speaker 1>French arsenic, so I'm sure it was fine. So all right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>while women seem to have the line share of these

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<v Speaker 1>dubious remedies inflicted on them, men were also on the

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<v Speaker 1>receiving end of a few of these, at least, so

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<v Speaker 1>I found one example the fall of nineteen o two,

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<v Speaker 1>Sears catalog advertised this belt and it sent electrical currents

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<v Speaker 1>through a guy's growing in order to provide quote, the best,

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<v Speaker 1>most reliable, most harmless yet powerful cheapest cure possible. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's obviously a ton of qualifiers. But what was this

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to cure? Exactly? I mean, like whatever ailes you're growing,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. I mean, as usual with these medical ads,

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<v Speaker 1>the right up is short on details and super long

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<v Speaker 1>on this bizarre wording and these impossible claims, Like there

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<v Speaker 1>was this promise to cure a week or deranged nervous system.

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<v Speaker 1>So I found another It's called curtis Is Consumption Cure

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<v Speaker 1>or the Triple C, and it just straight up promises

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<v Speaker 1>to cure tuberculosis. Wow. You know, Sears is pretty lucky

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<v Speaker 1>that the FDC wasn't around back then, because I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine any of this stuff would have flown now. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the strangest part is. So, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the company, Richard Sears wrote just about every line of

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<v Speaker 1>coffee and the catalogs. But you're kidding, right, No, it's true. Alright, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there was this funny nineteen o two add for something

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<v Speaker 1>called a toilet mask, so I'm impressed by his copywriters skill.

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<v Speaker 1>So the acid cured rubber is said to be coated

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<v Speaker 1>with just healing agents. Wait, so is the assets supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to improve your complexion like the arsenic wafers. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>acid is supposed to burn off things like freckles and

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<v Speaker 1>liver spots. Sort of. I guess I don't know that

0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.760
<v Speaker 1>i'd call acid burns and improvement over freckles though. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so most of these are pretty disturbing products, so I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and mention another that kind of fits the bill. Apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>In the series, catalog offered a set of illustrated lecture

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<v Speaker 1>slides that depicted quote realistic views of the assassination of

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<v Speaker 1>President McKinley. Oh god. Yeah. Customers could relive the national

0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.320
<v Speaker 1>tragedy from the comfort of their living rooms using the

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<v Speaker 1>handy stereo opticon slide projector, which was also available through series.

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<v Speaker 1>That is horrible, I mean, I do feel I need

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<v Speaker 1>to point out the series also sold some pretty wholesome

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<v Speaker 1>things through the catalogs too, So, for example, the nineteen

0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.720
<v Speaker 1>thirties Sears advertised live baby chicks for sale. Each chick

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<v Speaker 1>costs ten cents and the company actually guarantee they'd be

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<v Speaker 1>delivered safe and alive or your money back. Well. I

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<v Speaker 1>like this positive direction you're heading in, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to drag us back into the mud because I have

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<v Speaker 1>to mention one of my favorite all time uses for

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<v Speaker 1>the series catalog, which is that they provided the nation's

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<v Speaker 1>toilet paper of choice in the late nineteenth century, so

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<v Speaker 1>that Sears was selling toilet paper by mail. No, the

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<v Speaker 1>catalogs themselves used to be the go to choice when

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<v Speaker 1>rural Americans had to you know, w yeah, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not. The paper pages of the catalog were

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<v Speaker 1>actually a big step up for most people. For those

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't have a lot of expendable paper on hand

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<v Speaker 1>in the late eighteen hundreds, corn cops were the next

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<v Speaker 1>best option, or maybe a muscle shell if you happen

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<v Speaker 1>to live near the coastline. I was trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out which of those sounds worse, But I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>even want to go down that path, so let's just

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<v Speaker 1>not talk about that exactly, Which is why people were

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<v Speaker 1>so happy when Sears started selling them giant free catalogs

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<v Speaker 1>twice a year. And supposedly we looked at this a

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<v Speaker 1>single catalog could meet the outhouse needs of a farm

0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:43.040
<v Speaker 1>family for an entire season, So you can imagine just

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<v Speaker 1>how upset folks were where the company switched from cushy,

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<v Speaker 1>absorbent newsprint to this unforgiving coded paper stalk. Apparently, Sears

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<v Speaker 1>got quite a few angry letters from customers who would

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<v Speaker 1>have gladly swapped the catalog's fancy color pictures for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>returned to the soft stuff. I love that people wrote

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<v Speaker 1>in letters about that. Well, we mentioned earlier that Sears

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<v Speaker 1>catalogs were something of a teaching tool in the early

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<v Speaker 1>days of the company. It kind of you know, served

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<v Speaker 1>as some of the public's first introduction to new technologies

0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 1>like the electric sewing machine, the disc graphophone, and the

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<v Speaker 1>baby gate. Even and cars were actually another thing I

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<v Speaker 1>was surprised to learn the catalog introduced to the public.

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<v Speaker 1>So the company offered a tiny car. It was called

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<v Speaker 1>um Sears Motor Buggy, and this was in the Fall

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<v Speaker 1>nine catalog. The Boddy. You could actually reach speeds of

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<v Speaker 1>up to twenty five miles per hour and it costs

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<v Speaker 1>just under four hundred dollars, which is about ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars today. Wow, that's pretty pricey for Sears. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I ever circled that one in the catalog. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of expensive, I know this is kind of jumping

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of it, but I saw this ad from Sears

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty one. It was for the very first

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<v Speaker 1>VCR model, and it cost one thousand, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five dollars. I mean, it's close to three thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars today. I know it's expensive, but how else were

0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>you gonna watch Ernest Goes to Jail? That's actually I

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<v Speaker 1>can remember. The first time I watched a movie on

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<v Speaker 1>a VCR was we actually rented the VCR. I think

0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:06.879
<v Speaker 1>it was from Blockbuster Videos so we could watch a

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<v Speaker 1>movie at home. Well, there's at least one item from

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<v Speaker 1>the early series catalogs that has only gone up in

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<v Speaker 1>value over the years, and I do want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we talk about it. But but first let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break. Okay, Mango, We've got one of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners on the line to play a quiz with

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<v Speaker 1>us today. Stephen is joining us from the state of Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to part time genius. Stephen. How's it going now?

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<v Speaker 1>You're the second person that we've spoken to this week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that works an overnight shift. Earlier in the week,

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<v Speaker 1>we spoke to a truck driver who picks up milk

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<v Speaker 1>from fifteen different Amish communities in the state of Maryland.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've been working the graveyard shift. So tell us

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about what you do. Well. I I

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<v Speaker 1>operate some five excess seeing c machines, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>largest in the world. Actually, um, and it's it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>awesome that you do a little of that, Mango, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you the five axes? Yeah, but mostly on the weekends. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's great. Well, we're gonna be We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>playing a quiz with you today. What quiz were you playing? Mango.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna play a game called real Sears Catalog item

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<v Speaker 1>or something we made up? All right, So Steve and

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to give you six quiz questions and

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to tell us whether it's a real

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<v Speaker 1>item we found that a Sears catalog or something we

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<v Speaker 1>made up. You're ready to play, all right? So the

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<v Speaker 1>first one is a mix at home after shave. It's

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<v Speaker 1>for people who love old spice but would prefer to

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<v Speaker 1>add some of their own spices. Was this a real

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Sears catalog item or something we made up? You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I believe that that was a real thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be pretty interesting. Actually, it wouldn't be pretty interesting.

0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:50.960
<v Speaker 1>But this one actually isn't true. They should have had it.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some far weirder things in there. That's okay, yea, yeah,

0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that's right. That's right, all right. Question number two, I

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<v Speaker 1>Love You Red twelve Bird Birdhouse. Was this something real

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<v Speaker 1>and a serious catalog or something we made up? M hmmm,

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely. It has a hint of mango in there.

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 1>But I think I might have actually seen that at

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<v Speaker 1>my grandma's neighbor's house, So I'm gonna go maybe real.

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:23.640
<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely right, He's right, it's uh, it's absolutely true.

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.719
<v Speaker 1>The ventilated cubicles were supposed to encourage a family of

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<v Speaker 1>Martin's to join your own. All right, Okay, he's coming back.

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Or one out of two. Still got plenty of time

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<v Speaker 1>for the big prize. Question number three, do it yourself

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<v Speaker 1>home delivery kit for mothers who don't want to bother

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>with a doctor until they need to. It's called a

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<v Speaker 1>do it yourself home delivery kit. Was this true or

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<v Speaker 1>something we made up? Uh? You know, uh, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>a little strange, but you know what, I think, you know,

0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:59.239
<v Speaker 1>i'd buy that. I think that's realistic enough like that

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you'd buy it. Yeah, it's true. I see that it's

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<v Speaker 1>true here mango. But what was what was in it?

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I know it actually came with rubber sheets, breastbinders, antiseptic soap,

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>and olive oil. And I think it came with gloves

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>as well, all stuff I keep in my backpack anyway,

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 1>So this is great. Alright, So Steven's two for three, alright,

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Question number four, castrating knives. Castrating knives as this true

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<v Speaker 1>or something we made up? You know, I kind of

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 1>don't want that to be true, but it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>might be, but we'll see. You know, I think as

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<v Speaker 1>long as it's not for humans, I think that's I

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 1>believe that. Yeah, it's true. So at the time, the

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Sears catalog also sold farming equipment as well as things

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 1>like baby chickens and donkeys, and the knives actually came

0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>with one, two or three blades. Just to be as

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 1>surprised as the listeners. Sometimes I like to come in

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>without having seen the quizzes before, and this is one

0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 1>of those. When I saw castrating knives. I was like,

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>all right, Mango, what kind of move? Alright, that's right,

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Stephen is three out of four. Let's see. The next

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 1>one is a bald Eagle to pay kit fun for

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>all ages, yarn assembly kit to make the most patriotic

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 1>of birds better looking? Was this actually in a Sears

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:21.880
<v Speaker 1>catalog or something we made up? You know? That's that?

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:29.679
<v Speaker 1>That sounds a little mango and he's got you figured out, man. Alright, alright,

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>last one for the big prize. Here walk and Whear

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>hair dryers. It's like drying your hair at a beauty salon,

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 1>except on the go. A walk and Whear hair dryers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true or something we made up. You know, I'm

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 1>not sure exactly how that would work, except well, I guess.

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean you could probably have a portable powered one.

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I believe that. Yeah, let go, Yes,

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>this is really true. It's true. Here. How does this work? Well,

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>it was only so mobile, so it had this beehive

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<v Speaker 1>it wearable hair dryer that came with an eight foot

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>extension courts you could walk eight feet if you're on

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the go. That's great. Yeah, it actually reminds me one

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 1>of our our neighbors used to have one of those

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>electric or plug in weed whackers. Except the problem was

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the edge of his yard was five ft

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.959
<v Speaker 1>beyond where it's stretched. So we would watch him like

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<v Speaker 1>get a running start with this thing and just like

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 1>run all the way to the end and get that

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>last five feet, then have to come back and plug

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>it in and then go do it again. It was

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 1>pretty great, all right. So yeah, uh yeah, so mango,

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 1>how did Stephen do today? Uh? Stephen did great. He

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<v Speaker 1>went five for six and as always, our guest wins

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<v Speaker 1>an official part time Genius Certificate of Genius along with

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<v Speaker 1>a part Time Genius T shirts. So congratulations Stephen. Alright, Stephen,

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>that was great. We're all wrapped up. Thanks again for

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>your patients and for joining us. Yeah anytime. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a great quiz man go you really got me good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun. Thanks. Enjoy your rest, take care all right,

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<v Speaker 1>bye bye you guys. Okay, well, so you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about this old timey Sears product that's proven

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 1>to be such a big investment. Well maybe unsurprisingly it's

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>actually real estate, or more specifically, their mail order houses,

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.639
<v Speaker 1>so Sears would actually send you a whole house. Uh,

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 1>that's got to be this expensive shipping proposition, right, Well,

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, not a whole house, but like all the

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>pieces you need to build a house. Yeah, I mean

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>it was nineteen o eight and the catalog included an

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 1>ad that said, a hundred dollar set of building plans

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 1>for free, let us be your architect without cost to you.

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>And so customers then right into request a free copy

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 1>of a book called the Book of Modern Homes. And

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>it was this separate catalog that listed the building materials

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>and the plans for I think it was for forty

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>four different house designs that ranged in ice from around

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred dollars to about four thousand dollars. Okay, so

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>then what happens like a pile of lumber and stuff

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>just shows up at your doorstep. Where wait, so if

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 1>customers were building houses, where were they sending these houses

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>to in the first place. Well, a few weeks after

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>an order was placed, you'd have two box cars full

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>of about thirty thousand house pieces that would show up

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>at the buyer's local train depot. Then the proud new

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>homeowner would have to haul these pieces to the build side,

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, using a horse and wagon or maybe a

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>flatbed truck. And so for that reason, most of these

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>surviving Sears homes that you'll find them located within just

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 1>a couple of miles of these old railroad lines. Oh

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense, But building a house seems like so

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>much work. And forget about trying to haul like thirty

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>thousand pieces of something up in mountain. Why do you

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>think all these houses are up abound? All right, So,

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>once all the pieces of the house were laid out,

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>it was time for the homeowner to crack open their

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>leather bound instruction book and figure out how the heck

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to put the thing together. And so there was a

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>lot to figure out, with each kit containing twenty two

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>islands of paint and varnish and and seven hundred and

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>fifty pounds of nails. Not only that, there was about

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand shingles there to use for the roof in siding,

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>all of this and these giant kids. So there's gonna

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>be one thick instruction book, right. Actually, I was trying

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to look into this because I would have thought the

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>same thing, And they were only seventy five pages. That's

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of toilet paper, that's not that's insane.

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>So I can barely build my own idea. But wait,

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>so you mentioned these surviving houses. How many of these

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>were built? Well? According to Sears, the company sold between

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>seventy and seventy five thousand mail order homes during the

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty two years that it offered them. And getting into

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the housing business in the early twentieth century proved to

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>be a really smart move for Sears, and the timing

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>couldn't have been any better. He had more and more

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.479
<v Speaker 1>Americans that were, you know, trying to ditch the family

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>farm in favor of this easier life in the suburbs,

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>and the Sears catalog homes were an affordable way to

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>make that switch. So you know, today they're buying us

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Sears homes isn't nearly that affordable because there's this whole

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>community of Sears home enthusiasts. They try to hunt these

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>down and catalog these housing relics, and all that interest

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>can actually drive the prices way up. But we saw

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>someone we were looking into this that we're close to

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>a million dollars for some of these larger models. You know,

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not just a history that they're paying for, because

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>these houses are really well built and and super durable.

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Because the timber they were using was this old growth

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>would from back then, which you don't see used a

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>whole lot now. In fact, you know, in fact, some

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>enthusiasts estimate that as many as seventy Sears catalog houses

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>are still standing today. That's crazy and I'm still blown

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>away that there's this like a house Hunters Sears edition.

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 1>But these people just drive around and look for Sears models.

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think they're a little more methodical about

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it than that, but but but more or less, yeah,

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's something the company actually encourages to The

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Seer's archive website even includes a running list of confirmed

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Sears house owners are willing to get in touch with

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>fellow enthusiasts, and that way they can share notes or

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe meet up for a tour, and of course give

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>each other heads up if somebody ever decides to sell

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>there's which I guess isn't that likely. It is cool

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that these d i y houses are still out there.

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, judging by the frequent Sears store closings and

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>the sale of its iconic house brands like Craftsman Tools,

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>it does feel like the company isn't long for the

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>world at this point. And it feels like these homes

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>that the company help people build are now kind of

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>this monument to its cultural impact. Yeah, I mean it

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>does make me wonder what else the company will leave behind,

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, besides this treasure trove of hilarious ads that

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>we talked about. Well, I know one thing that will

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>definitely be part of Sears legacy, and that's the NORAD

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Santa Tracker. You know how every year the news stations

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>report on Santa's progress as he makes his way from

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the North Pole to houses all over the world. Yeah,

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, what does that have to do with Sears. Well,

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>back in one of Sears department stores placed an ad

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>in a Colorado newspaper, and it encouraged kids to call

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Santa on his private line so that they could tell

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>them what they'd like for Christmas. But something apparently went

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>wrong along the way. I don't know whether the phone

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>number in the ad was misprinted or people simply mistyaled,

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>but at least one child wound up calling Santa and

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>getting the Continental Air Defense Command instead. And so the

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>officer on duty who answered his name was Colonel Harry Shoop.

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>He asked his staff to provide the collar and any

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>future ones with the latest updates on Santa's progress. And

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years later, Nora took over the duty

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and they've been reporting on Santa's yearly flight ever since.

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty incredible that they got this serious agency to

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>start a whole program devoted to tracking Santa Claus. I know,

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's one area where Sears has Amazon, that's true. Well,

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>speaking of Amazon, I do want to quickly go back

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>to the idea that Sears and Amazon are, you know,

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of like mirror images of one another. So both

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>companies rose the power by combining home delivery and an

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>emerging technology. For Sears it was railroads and for Amazon

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>it was the Internet. But you know, both companies started

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>with a single evergreen product of watches and books, and

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>then of course they expanded into these product ranges to

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>include everything under the sun. Well, there's also the fact

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 1>that Sears made the transition to brick and more or

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 1>retail after decades of success. Is this, you know, delivery

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>based company, And now we see Amazon starting to do

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. It's interesting to see the future of

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>retail starts almost resemble its past. Yeah, and you know,

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>if you think about Amazon, would probably be smart to

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on those similarities, because while the two

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>companies find themselves in drastically different situations today, it is

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>worth noting that Amazon is only in its twenties at

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>this point. Who knows where it will be a century

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>from now? Yeah, and who knows where series will be

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>for that matter? All right, Well, even if the company

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>is truly on its way out now, the market made

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>on American culture will be with us for a long

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>time to come, definitely. But for now, what do you say?

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>We've partake in another beloved cultural institution. And that's the

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>fact off? All right, let's do it, okay, So I'll

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>kick us off. In the the CIA was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find a good way to compensate Vietnamese spies that were

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<v Speaker 1>assisting them, and paper money really didn't do them any good,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they had to find another way. They then

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<v Speaker 1>discovered that they could pay them with items available from

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<v Speaker 1>the Sears catalog. I like that, So I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we need at least one fact about the Sears Tower

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. And I know it's called the Willis Tower now,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to join the fifty people who signed

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<v Speaker 1>a petition to try to have the name changed back

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<v Speaker 1>Now it may not be the tallest building in the

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<v Speaker 1>world anymore, but here's something you could still hang its

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>hat on the sky deck. Bathrooms at one three are

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<v Speaker 1>actually the longest trip up from ground level of any

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<v Speaker 1>other bathrooms in the Western Hemisphere. And that doesn't mean

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 1>they're the highest in elevation, just the farthest from wherever

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>the ground level is. That is pretty high up to

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>get to a bathroom. Hopefully there are bathrooms on other

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<v Speaker 1>floors before you get Now, that's it, alright. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things we didn't really talk about Sears selling on

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>its catalog was insurance. And I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>remember this, but Sears actually founded All State back Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't remember that, and they'd offer auto insurance deals

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<v Speaker 1>in the catalog. All the State is of course no

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<v Speaker 1>longer art of Sears. They've been completely independent from them

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<v Speaker 1>for I think it's a little over twenty years or

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<v Speaker 1>so now. So one of those something else that used

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the catalog that I don't think you'll

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>find serious selling anymore opium. Really, Yeah, you're right, I

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're selling that. Maybe that's gonna be their

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>turnaround plan. We'll see. Well, just because the Sears catalog

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<v Speaker 1>isn't what it used to be, there's obviously no shortage

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<v Speaker 1>of catalog mailing going on these days, as we all

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<v Speaker 1>experience at this time of year. So I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>it up to see how many catalogs are mailed, and

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>they'll be about eleven billion catalogs mailed out in the

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<v Speaker 1>US alone this year. That's crazy. So just last months

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<v Speaker 1>Heres announced to be bringing back the Wish Book this

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<v Speaker 1>holiday season. It hasn't been printed since two thousand eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a hundred twenty pager. It's only going

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<v Speaker 1>to a select number of loyal customers. But it's apparently

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<v Speaker 1>also available on the Sears app. Wait, what are you doing.

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the app store. I'm trying to download the

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Sears Sars had an app. I'm distracted. So I'm gonna

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