WEBVTT - What to Do With Your First Paycheck

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<v Speaker 1>LinkedIn News. First of all, I don't look at my

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<v Speaker 1>bank account. I don't need that negativity in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>After a long weekend, I'm like, okay, oh, absolutely, Monday mornings.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold hands, we're going to war. I'm gonna ask myself

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<v Speaker 1>how much ram and do I need to eat this

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<v Speaker 1>week to account for that. I walked by a department store,

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<v Speaker 1>so something said spoil yourself. You have one life, yolo

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<v Speaker 1>That yolo got me broke.

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<v Speaker 3>From LinkedIn News and I heard podcasts. This is Let's

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<v Speaker 3>Talk Offline, a show about what it takes to thrive

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<v Speaker 3>in the early years of your career without sacrificing your values,

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<v Speaker 3>sanity or sleep. I'm Gianna Prudenti, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamaie Jackson Gadson. The only thing better than that first

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<v Speaker 1>real job is that first real paycheck, honey making it

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<v Speaker 1>rain in the club on a Friday. But look, before

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<v Speaker 1>you do all that, I know you're asking yourselves some

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<v Speaker 1>real adult questions. What am I even supposed to do

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<v Speaker 1>with this money? I mean, should I buy that new

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<v Speaker 1>phone I've been looking at? Or should I be investing

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<v Speaker 1>my money? What is a four one K or an ira? Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>all them Letta's numbers and digits and whatever else is

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<v Speaker 1>really confusing for me. And I know that this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that they are not teaching you in school, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why it's really easy to feel kind of lost

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to money conversations.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I feel lost in this all so when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to personal finance, and that's why the basics are

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<v Speaker 3>so important. Understanding personal finance basics can really set you

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<v Speaker 3>up for long term success and make you feel confident

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<v Speaker 3>about managing your money. So today we're gonna be talking

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<v Speaker 3>all about personal finance and how you can come up

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<v Speaker 3>with a game plan to reach those financial goals.

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<v Speaker 4>Me too.

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<v Speaker 1>See, so I know talking about personal finance is probably

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<v Speaker 1>a little weird. You guys are probably like Jimmy Gianna,

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<v Speaker 1>we did not sign up for personal finance podcast, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But the truth of the matter is personal finance is

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<v Speaker 1>extremely important. At the end of the day, you are

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<v Speaker 1>going to go out and make your first big boy

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<v Speaker 1>or big girl paycheck, and you're gonna probably ask the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing I did, Can I spend all of this

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<v Speaker 1>on food? Your first paycheck and your money is going

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<v Speaker 1>to matter throughout your career. But I realized that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't even know where to start. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't even know how it plays into the long

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<v Speaker 1>term of your success, especially when you land that first

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<v Speaker 1>job and you don't even know what to do. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm super excited, y'all. We are excited because finance

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<v Speaker 1>expert Vivian two, who you probably know as your rich

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<v Speaker 1>bff online, is coming on to talk us all through it.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, Gianna, let me ask you. What trends have

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<v Speaker 1>you seen in your reporting about gen Z and their

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<v Speaker 1>relationship to money.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so all spirts acknowledge like when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>money management, there is privilege and being able to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>save and budget. Not everyone has that extra income to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to save and invest, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people are burdened with debt and living paycheck to paycheck.

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<v Speaker 3>But hopefully from this episode you're able to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>gain the tools and strategies to make better financial decisions

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<v Speaker 3>and work toward whatever financial goals you have, even if

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<v Speaker 3>it's just one small step. But I think when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to like gen Z and our relationship with money,

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<v Speaker 3>I saw a study from TransUnion that found that people

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<v Speaker 3>who are in their early twenties are earning less and

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<v Speaker 3>have more debt than millennials did our age, which, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm totally not here to pin the generations against each other,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's the reality of, you know, the moment, and

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<v Speaker 3>so it can really feel impossible for us to get

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<v Speaker 3>financially ahead or build any type of financial wealth in

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<v Speaker 3>today's economy. So we're just full of this financial angst

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of people I've been seeing this get

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<v Speaker 3>reported out are experiencing what we call money dysmorphia, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's having a flawed perception of your finances, so thinking

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<v Speaker 3>you have less than you actually do, and that can

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<v Speaker 3>impact you know, your spending habits. It can make you

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<v Speaker 3>moll over financial decisions more than you need to, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's very common. A report from Credit Karma showed that

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<v Speaker 3>forty three percent of gen z or suffer from money dysmorphia,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's compared to twenty nine percent of workers overall.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of that money dysmorphia is caused by

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<v Speaker 3>comparison on social media. I think, you know, social media

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<v Speaker 3>is great, but of course that's you know, a reason

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<v Speaker 3>why we fall victim to comparison is you see other

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<v Speaker 3>people the way that they're spending their money, and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not in that position, even if maybe you are.

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<v Speaker 3>All of this is to say that money management can

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<v Speaker 3>be very anxiety inducing because we don't learn anything personal

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<v Speaker 3>finance out all in school and suddenly you enter the workforce.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a four to one K What is that? Like?

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<v Speaker 3>You have a paycheck? Should you be saving? Should you

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<v Speaker 3>be budgeting? And I swear to God every time my

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<v Speaker 3>mom asked me like are you saving money? Like I

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<v Speaker 3>just booked trip and she's like, well, John, I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to make sure are you saving money? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>literally gonna throw up.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother does the exact same thing. She's like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a budget?

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<v Speaker 3>V A few weeks ago, I'm working midday, i get

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<v Speaker 3>an email from my mom with a budget template. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>or is this coming from I'm going to tell you mom,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're listening. I still have not looked at that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I you know, it just stresses me out to

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<v Speaker 3>get my finances in order. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people can probably relate to that, this idea of having

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<v Speaker 3>to sit down and look at how much is coming

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<v Speaker 3>in and coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a lot. First of all, I don't look

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<v Speaker 1>at my bank account. I don't need that negativity in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, after a long weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, oh absolutely, Monday morning, let's hold hands

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to this idea.

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<v Speaker 1>In it, I'm going to ask myself how much rom

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<v Speaker 1>and do I need to eat this week to account

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<v Speaker 1>for that? I walked by a department store, so something said,

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<v Speaker 1>spoil yourself. You have one life, Yolo. That yolo got

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<v Speaker 1>me broke. Uh huh. So, Gianna, I feel like you've

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<v Speaker 1>sort of I've talked a lot about how gen Z

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<v Speaker 1>feels about this, but like, what has your relationship been

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<v Speaker 1>like with money?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Good questions. I do have to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I'm in the hot seat. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>I always like grew up being kind of cautious about

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<v Speaker 3>spending money. Also, fun fact, my last name in Italian

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<v Speaker 3>means cautious. So it's just like literally does make sense? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know me so much?

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<v Speaker 1>Everything sense?

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<v Speaker 3>It was written in the stars. Why I couldn't choose

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<v Speaker 3>this life from myself?

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson doesn't mean anything except the son of jack I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, my mom grew up like my grandparents

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<v Speaker 3>came here from Italy and you know, they struggled to

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<v Speaker 3>make ends me and she grew up where my grandpa,

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<v Speaker 3>my no no, was very frugal with money, so I

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<v Speaker 3>think she kind of internalized that. And then when I

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<v Speaker 3>was growing up, she always told me siblings, like every

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<v Speaker 3>penny counts, every dollar count So I was always saving.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, you know, you never know what's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna happen when a rainy day, you know, hits. But now,

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<v Speaker 3>living on my own in the New York City area,

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<v Speaker 3>saving has been a struggle. Like once you so I,

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<v Speaker 3>for context, I lived at home for two years after graduation,

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<v Speaker 3>saved my money, and then you move out and suddenly

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, where did my paycheck go?

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, wow, this is what the adults we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's like the biggest like adulting one oh

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<v Speaker 3>one reality check. So now I'm balancing, you know, my

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<v Speaker 3>rent payments, my student loan, living expenses. And I acknowledge

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<v Speaker 3>that working in tech, you know, I make a good salary,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's still it's just expensive to live, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And my mom has always been the one who's really

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<v Speaker 3>helped me on my personal finance journey, Like she is

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<v Speaker 3>like a financial advisor. You know, on the side, she's

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<v Speaker 3>helped me, you know, figure out what investment funds I

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<v Speaker 3>should be in early on and moving some of my

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<v Speaker 3>money out of, you know, just my big account so

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<v Speaker 3>it's just not sitting there collecting to us. But I

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<v Speaker 3>know I can be doing a lot better with budgeting.

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying before, Like the idea of having to

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<v Speaker 3>sit down and understand how much is me in and

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<v Speaker 3>coming out of my bank account really makes me want

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<v Speaker 3>to peeuke. Like it's just I don't have a budget

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<v Speaker 3>and I probably need one, And I also want to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out like my financial goals. I'm at a point

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<v Speaker 3>right now where yeah, one day I would love to

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<v Speaker 3>have a house, but like I'm twenty five, so do

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<v Speaker 3>I start saving now? Like that seems like a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit far off. So I need all the help when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to just like getting my you know, budgeting

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<v Speaker 3>and financial goals in order.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean, first of all, give yourself credit.

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<v Speaker 1>You're having conversations and even asking yourself questions that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think a lot of people are asking themselves, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least are in a position to ask themselves. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned at the very beginning that some people don't

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<v Speaker 1>get the privilege of talking. When I was your age,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not making good money, so I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>articulate really what long term goals are. I knew that

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to make them, but I was like, the

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<v Speaker 1>money gotta come first.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I do. I definitely acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of privilege with working in tech because

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<v Speaker 3>I've been able to, you know, have some investments saving.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's I like to treat myself like

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<v Speaker 3>I knew too much, you know, so I need to

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<v Speaker 3>I need to scale back. And I really do credit

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<v Speaker 3>all to my mom, like she has really been the

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<v Speaker 3>one being like, you got to get it in order.

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<v Speaker 1>Those books on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I'm wondering for you, like your early paychecks,

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<v Speaker 3>what was Jammae Little Jamay spending her money on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, my experience with money, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>has been an interesting one. But my mom really was

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<v Speaker 1>one Like from the young age. She put me in

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<v Speaker 1>like financial literacy classes that were taught at my church,

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<v Speaker 1>which was really nice, awesome. Yeah. She used to sit

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<v Speaker 1>me down and as she would clean out her check books,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she would do her she literally would go

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<v Speaker 1>she could get down to the dime, her money in

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<v Speaker 1>her bank account, and like she would always constantly check

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure everything was aligned. She showed me how

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<v Speaker 1>she paid bills and all that stuff. So I did

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<v Speaker 1>get the opportunity at a young age to see sort

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<v Speaker 1>of what was be expected. But then I was like, dang,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do this now for yourself, for me. Like

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<v Speaker 1>now I I wholly understand why Beyonce said, ladies, leave

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<v Speaker 1>your man at home.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you guys hear parents were always stressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know why. When they came home they said,

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk to me for fifteen minutes, like, let me

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<v Speaker 1>just put some TV on. They the world sucks. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was blessed though that when I went

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<v Speaker 1>to college, I went on a full ride, so we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to worry financially about that. But I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been in a very ambitious person, so I still worked

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<v Speaker 1>all throughout college. I've always had jobs, so I always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted pocket money because one thing I don't like is

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<v Speaker 1>for people to tell me what to do with my money.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't tell me what to do here, right, good good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not like, you know, possibly gonna be telling people

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<v Speaker 1>like hey, stop doing this. But I always loved financial

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<v Speaker 1>autonomy and I always felt like powerful in that. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things, though, that we were talking about, was

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<v Speaker 1>that throughout my career, especially throughout most of my twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not make money enough to be able to save,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone invest and have some of these bigger conversations

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<v Speaker 1>that we're having. I was making enough money to get by,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why being a lancer, having a side hustle

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<v Speaker 1>is something that is so important to me and that

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<v Speaker 1>I will always talk about because it was those little

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<v Speaker 1>gigs of a two hundred and fifty dollars job or

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<v Speaker 1>a five hundred dollars cover feature that covered me and

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<v Speaker 1>made sure I kept my lights on, especially when I decided, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to move to the most expensive city in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, New York. But like I did not make

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<v Speaker 1>wise decisions financially as when you're younger, I still sometimes don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I really much so believe you still have to enjoy life.

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<v Speaker 1>But I now am at a place where I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be an adult. You know, yes, you can go

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<v Speaker 1>to the club or the ballers are there. You also

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<v Speaker 1>got to start building out long term strategy growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm growing up. I'm a city girl, but a responsible

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<v Speaker 1>financial city girl. You know, you want to build a home,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get married, you want to start a family,

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<v Speaker 1>these things really. Yeah, when I hear how much weddings cost,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, our friends just spent like six figures

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<v Speaker 1>on their wedding. It was beautiful. But yeah, so like

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<v Speaker 1>things are expensive. And so now I'm trying to go

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<v Speaker 1>into conversations with that in mind and really telling myself, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you chip off fifty dollars on your eating out fun,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean you're depriving yourself, but you can put

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<v Speaker 1>that money into something else. And so I think the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation is changing, and certainly my viewpoint.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it seems like both of us could do

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<v Speaker 3>a little better with money management. Yeah, I think. God,

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<v Speaker 3>we got an expert coming on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, tell me what to do, but don't want me

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<v Speaker 1>to give up. Oysters coming up. You really can never

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<v Speaker 1>have enough work besties. So we're bringing in finance expert

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<v Speaker 1>Vivian two aka your rich bff, to help us break

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<v Speaker 1>down what personal finance moves you should be making early

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<v Speaker 1>in your career. So I get it, y'all. Personal finance

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<v Speaker 1>can feel and sound super scary. I mean, honestly, my

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<v Speaker 1>armpits get sweaty just talking about money. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad things. It feels taboo, but the reality is

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<v Speaker 1>we got to start having these conversations. But we're not

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<v Speaker 1>just going to lean on me and Gianna this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to bring it a heavy hitter who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk to us all about the money on Gianna,

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<v Speaker 1>who do we have this week?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? First off, we need to count on how

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<v Speaker 3>many times Jamaze our bits get sweaty during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's essentially always sweaty. I am a.

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<v Speaker 3>Snoweaty girl, no problem, we all are, okay, So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so excited we're bringing on Vivian two. You guys definitely

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<v Speaker 3>know her as your rich bff on social media. She's

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<v Speaker 3>a former Wall Street trader who offers her community of

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<v Speaker 3>over seven million followers advice on how to manage their

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<v Speaker 3>money and better understand the financial landscape. She's also the

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<v Speaker 3>author of rich af The Winning Money Mindset that Will

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<v Speaker 3>Change Your Life, which gives readers tools on how to

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<v Speaker 3>develop their own finance strategies. Vivian, thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 3>joining us. Vivian, thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go in and start off with a question

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<v Speaker 1>that I think a lot of people, myself included, have,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what's a really common early career money mistake

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<v Speaker 1>that you see young people make.

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<v Speaker 5>I think one of the biggest ones is being happy

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<v Speaker 5>and comfortable with that inflation raise. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 5>dork invented that, but it is the worst thing ever.

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<v Speaker 5>It's when you get to the end of the year

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<v Speaker 5>and you don't ask for a raise yourself, and your

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<v Speaker 5>boss comes in smug and they're smiling, and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 5>I've got some great news for you, like we are

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<v Speaker 5>giving you an inflation raise for working so hard. It's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be two percent. What the hell does that

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<v Speaker 5>get you? Nothing? Okay, that means you are essentially making

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<v Speaker 5>the same amount this next year as you did this year,

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<v Speaker 5>because we all know inflation is roughly two to three percent,

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<v Speaker 5>So your life is getting more expensive. Even if you

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<v Speaker 5>do make that a little additional, you're spending it, and

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<v Speaker 5>you're spending it not on fun things. You're spending it

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<v Speaker 5>on things that like eggs at the grocery store. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think the first one is understanding what an actual

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<v Speaker 5>raise looks like. And knowing that you have to ask

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<v Speaker 5>for one every single year. I always get roasted on

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<v Speaker 5>the internet when I say this out loud, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>every single year you need to be asking for a

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<v Speaker 5>raise of somewhere between ten to fifteen percent, and people

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<v Speaker 5>are always so shell shocked by that number when in reality,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying you're going to get fifteen percent every

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<v Speaker 5>single year. But if you ask for ten to fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>and you end up getting eight, that is actually a

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<v Speaker 5>true raise. That means that your money is going to

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<v Speaker 5>do more for you because you're making more versus just

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<v Speaker 5>keeping up with inflation and your life doesn't actually get

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<v Speaker 5>any better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that a lot. Usually what I do

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<v Speaker 1>is I add my requests in my performance evaluation. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean it's always going to happen, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>there's something documented that says, this is the money I'm

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<v Speaker 1>asking for. Here is the proof of why I'm asking

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<v Speaker 1>for it, and hopefully we land somewhere so that we

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<v Speaker 1>can have a little bit more money in the bank.

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<v Speaker 3>Vivian, I want to ask you a question about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all the things savings and budgeting. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot of people's like first big girl jobs

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<v Speaker 3>are starting to get those paychecks and potentially have some

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<v Speaker 3>money to put aside and save. Before we get into that,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming that the first step to budgeting and saving

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of clarifying those financial goals. So how do

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<v Speaker 3>you determine, you know, what is a goal, is it feasible?

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<v Speaker 3>And then how do you make a plan to achieve them?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think all of our goals are really going

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<v Speaker 5>to differ, but I think it's all about setting up

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<v Speaker 5>that plan. What I like to do is when I

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<v Speaker 5>have a goal, I write out a goal at the

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<v Speaker 5>top of the piece of paper that I have in

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<v Speaker 5>front of me, and then I will say what is

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<v Speaker 5>the timeline for me to accomplish this? And then from

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<v Speaker 5>that timeline, I'll break it out into twenty five, fifty

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<v Speaker 5>and seventy five percent and then the one hundred. So

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<v Speaker 5>if the goal takes six months, I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 5>a check in around a month and a half in

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to do a check in at three, four

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<v Speaker 5>and a half and then six, And then I write

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<v Speaker 5>down who can actually help me accomplish this goal, what

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<v Speaker 5>I actually need to get this done, and then I

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<v Speaker 5>also write down what are my strengths and weaknesses that

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<v Speaker 5>are going to help and hurt me from achieving this. So,

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<v Speaker 5>for example, if my goal is to save two thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 5>one of the strengths is, hey, I have a really

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<v Speaker 5>good job and I get a really good salary. Weaknesses

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<v Speaker 5>can be when I see money in my bank account,

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<v Speaker 5>I use the money in my bank account, and I

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<v Speaker 5>get the little treat. I've got the drinks out with friends,

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<v Speaker 5>I got my nails done, I got the lashes done.

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<v Speaker 5>Suddenly I don't have that two thousand dollars saved, and

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<v Speaker 5>maybe that two thousand dollars was for a new laptop

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<v Speaker 5>so I could start a photography business on the side.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think knowing what your strengths and weaknesses are

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<v Speaker 5>is really helpful, and then also building systems to actually

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<v Speaker 5>prevent your weaknesses from derailing you. So in that case,

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes I can be very shortsighted. And if I want

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<v Speaker 5>to have a long term goal or a bigger picture goal,

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<v Speaker 5>what I like to do is so many of us

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<v Speaker 5>these days get paid via direct deposit, and if you're

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<v Speaker 5>a W two employee, you can typically go into your

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<v Speaker 5>workplace portal where you set it up initially when you

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<v Speaker 5>first started the job, instead of putting one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 5>into a checking account, you can put ninety percent or

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<v Speaker 5>ninety five percent and automatically set aside five to ten

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<v Speaker 5>percent into a high healed savings account where your money's

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<v Speaker 5>earning you more money. But also you don't see it,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not there. Just pretend it's not there, and that

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<v Speaker 5>way you won't spend it.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds really smart when it's at a site out

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<v Speaker 3>of mind, you don't spend it. But when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to like budgeting and saving best practices, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 3>something that like we obviously don't learn that in school.

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<v Speaker 3>And then to even start creating a budget, to even

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<v Speaker 3>start building a savings feels incredibly intimidating. So how do

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<v Speaker 3>you even start, Like, let's start with budgeting. How do

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<v Speaker 3>you even start to create a budget? What should you

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<v Speaker 3>be putting in as your different line items in the budget?

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<v Speaker 3>How much of your you know, paycheck do you put where?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you kind of go about that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think one of my favorite budgeting strategies, and

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<v Speaker 5>again a different strategy is going to work for different people,

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<v Speaker 5>But my favorite one, because it's so simple, is the

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<v Speaker 5>fifty to thirty twenty budgeting strategy. It just roughly says,

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<v Speaker 5>fifty percent of your take home pay goes towards needs,

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<v Speaker 5>So that's things like rent, groceries, basic transportation to get

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<v Speaker 5>you to and fro. Thirty percent goes towards wants, so

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<v Speaker 5>this is things like that dinner out, the nails, the

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<v Speaker 5>cute little dress. Twenty percent goes towards taking care of

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<v Speaker 5>future you. So that's saving, that's paying down your debt,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's investing. And this is just a jump off point,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think this is a really good format for

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<v Speaker 5>the beginning of your career. And the hope is that

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<v Speaker 5>over time, as you make more money, as you become

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<v Speaker 5>more financially stable, that fifty and thirty can actually become

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<v Speaker 5>smaller numbers, and that twenty rises and rises and rises,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, so that you are able to set aside

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<v Speaker 5>more and take care of yourself in the future more.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems like such a great first step.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I appreciate also that, like you're not telling

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<v Speaker 1>people just don't spend money on you, because that's so unrealistic.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be able to enjoy your money at

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<v Speaker 1>every age of your life. But you also need to

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<v Speaker 1>be thinking about tomorrow and hopefully that you won't have

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<v Speaker 1>to work until you're in your li like eighties. So Vivian.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that I'm always talking with my friends about

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<v Speaker 1>is how money is such a different conversation, particularly for

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<v Speaker 1>people of color. I know, like there are terms that

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<v Speaker 1>are thrown around, like the black tax, where we're evaluating

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<v Speaker 1>how the paycheck that I make is not just supporting me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's supporting my parents, it's supporting the aunts and uncles

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<v Speaker 1>who things happen to whatever. So what tips would you

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<v Speaker 1>recommend on budgeting or even enforcing those boundaries with the

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<v Speaker 1>people who you want to help, but maybe sometimes you can't.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this hits so close to home because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>similar to the Black tax, like there is the dutiful

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<v Speaker 5>Chinese Asian, you know, the daughter, like you have to

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<v Speaker 5>kind of take care of everybody back home. And I

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<v Speaker 5>have so many friends where when they get their bonus

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<v Speaker 5>at the end of the year, there's an expectation that

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<v Speaker 5>they're sending that bonus home because maybe they grew up,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, undersupported in an underprivileged neighborhood and like their

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<v Speaker 5>parents need that money to like fix the car or

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<v Speaker 5>like make sure that like the windows aren't like broke in.

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<v Speaker 5>And so my big tip is never ever lend money period,

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<v Speaker 5>you only gift because when I tell you Uncle Lester

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<v Speaker 5>whoever is going to borrow that, but you're never seeing

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<v Speaker 5>that shit again. No, that is going to cause severe resentment.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just going to make family relationships awkward, and you

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to do that. In the same way that

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<v Speaker 5>you are setting aside dollars for your needs and your wants,

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<v Speaker 5>you can actually build into part of either of those categories,

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<v Speaker 5>like gifting for your family. So if this is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to make sure that my parents and my

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<v Speaker 5>siblings or aunts and uncles can have a really wonderful

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<v Speaker 5>winter holiday, that can go into wants. If it's my

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<v Speaker 5>parents need this money to fix the car, my parents

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<v Speaker 5>need this money to help make sure that like my

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<v Speaker 5>little brother can afford textbooks and lunch. That can go

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<v Speaker 5>into needs. But again, you want to budget for this

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<v Speaker 5>and never ever ever loan money. Only gift.

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<v Speaker 1>And also it kind of makes you think give as

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<v Speaker 1>much as you're willing to lose.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly, And frankly, in the first few years of

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<v Speaker 5>your career, very few of us make enough to be

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<v Speaker 5>making a huge meaningful difference. Whereas if we can build

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<v Speaker 5>our own financial foundation in a couple of years, when

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<v Speaker 5>we become you know, a more of a VP level

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<v Speaker 5>or a senior level or even like junior management, you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to have a lot more disposable income to actually

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<v Speaker 5>throw to the people that really really matter to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about four oh one k's for a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a pivot. It can be super

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<v Speaker 3>confusing when setting that up, from like selecting you know

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<v Speaker 3>how much of your paycheck you're allocating towards your four

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<v Speaker 3>oh one K to what investment funds you're in. So

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<v Speaker 3>can you break down how you know to set up

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<v Speaker 3>a four one K and the different types, because I

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<v Speaker 3>know that's so confusing, like pre tax roth all the things.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, four oh one k's company sponsored employer sponsored retirement

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<v Speaker 5>plans are so awesome and it would be a shame

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<v Speaker 5>for the folks listening to miss out on this. So

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<v Speaker 5>what I always say is take the fifteen minutes. Whoever

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<v Speaker 5>their provider is, go ahead and log in and make

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<v Speaker 5>that account right away. Then find out through your company

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<v Speaker 5>handbook or through the HR benefits team. They typically you know,

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<v Speaker 5>talk to the crew of people who are being onboarded

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<v Speaker 5>what your company matches. If you can contribute and you

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<v Speaker 5>can afford to give up that amount every single month,

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<v Speaker 5>try to contribute as much as your company is willing

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<v Speaker 5>to match, because that is free money, and there are

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<v Speaker 5>very few instances in the finance space where you get

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<v Speaker 5>free money and there's no random, you know, scam happening.

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<v Speaker 5>So truly take advantage of that if you can. And

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<v Speaker 5>then once you get in there, this is the big

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<v Speaker 5>mistake people make. They're contributing those dollars and then they

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<v Speaker 5>don't do anything. They're like, yes, I'm done, I'm investing

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<v Speaker 5>in my foremu one kiit. No you are not. Those

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<v Speaker 5>dollars are sitting in something called cash reserves. Cash reserves

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<v Speaker 5>is the equivalent of you putting that money into a

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<v Speaker 5>savings account and you're not really actually investing. What you

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<v Speaker 5>then need to do is actually choose and pick investments. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>every single employer sponsor plan is going to be different.

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<v Speaker 5>Your employer is going to pick what investments are available

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<v Speaker 5>to you. But just as a broad strokes works for

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people works for most people, is most

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<v Speaker 5>employers will offer target date retirement funds, and essentially how

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<v Speaker 5>these work are their baskets of investments that are diversified

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<v Speaker 5>and risk appropriate based on how far away you are

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<v Speaker 5>from retirement. So what you do is you just choose

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<v Speaker 5>the retirement fund most closely associated to the year that

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<v Speaker 5>you would turn sixty, sixty five, or seventy, depending on

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<v Speaker 5>how aggressive you want to be. But this is just

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<v Speaker 5>a quick, easy way for you to buy one thing

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<v Speaker 5>and essentially be buying hundreds, if not thousands, of actual

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<v Speaker 5>individual assets.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you saying, like, the biggest mistake when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to form one keys that you can make is

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<v Speaker 3>not setting it up and not choosing your investments. So like,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you do decide to do is good. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like it could be overwhelming when there are so many options,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's just about like setting it up and investing

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere and then like assessing it as you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>go throughout your career.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, Vivian, we have a wonderful segment here called

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<v Speaker 1>Dear Work Investie, and I want to ask you a

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<v Speaker 1>question that we got this week from one of our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>We get to address the questions from people who listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the show, and this week's comes from Mikayla in

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 4>So a lot of my friends talk about investing, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm interested in getting started, but the idea of it

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<v Speaker 4>is completely overwhelming. I don't know where to begin because

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<v Speaker 4>there's so many options, and I'd prefer to be hands off.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the first step I should take? Are there any

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<v Speaker 4>specific funds or type of investments you would recommend?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Vivian, you literally just talked about this, But for

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<v Speaker 1>someone like Mikayla who doesn't even know like the first step,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you recommend?

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<v Speaker 5>I would say, you don't need to. You can just

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<v Speaker 5>invest the lazy way. So we're not in our parents'

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<v Speaker 5>generation anymore. And as with everything, technology rules my life,

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<v Speaker 5>and so why not let technology invest on your behalf

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<v Speaker 5>and for you? And so what I recommend is utilize

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<v Speaker 5>something called a robo advisor. If you do not have

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<v Speaker 5>the time to pick investments, you do not have the

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<v Speaker 5>time to be worried about all of this stuff, go

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<v Speaker 5>ahead and just search best robo advisors twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 5>and you're going to get a list from either like

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<v Speaker 5>nerd wallet or bank rate or something that'll show you

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of really great options. And what you can

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<v Speaker 5>then do is click in find one that you like

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<v Speaker 5>their user interface. You're going to take a quick quiz

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<v Speaker 5>about your money goals. So how much money do you have,

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<v Speaker 5>how much money do you make every year? Do you

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<v Speaker 5>have any debt? How many kids do you have? If

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<v Speaker 5>you have kids? Where would you eventually like to live?

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<v Speaker 5>When do you want to retire?

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<v Speaker 4>Da?

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<v Speaker 1>Da da da da.

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<v Speaker 5>Then this little technology machine goes through the room and

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<v Speaker 5>it spits out a diversified portfolio based on you, based

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<v Speaker 5>on your age, based on your risk tolerance, based on

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<v Speaker 5>all the things that are important to you. And then

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<v Speaker 5>they send you this questionnaire about every year or too.

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<v Speaker 5>And as you get older and you know, maybe you

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<v Speaker 5>make some more money, or maybe you have an issue

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<v Speaker 5>with you know, losing your job and you're making less money,

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<v Speaker 5>your entire financial picture will continue to change, but your

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<v Speaker 5>portfolio gets to change with you constantly. And it's just

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<v Speaker 5>a great way to get invested within forty five minutes

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<v Speaker 5>and not be stressed about the decisions you're making and

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<v Speaker 5>questioning am I doing the right thing? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I love that because it feels it makes you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're still doing something, like I'm still involved, but

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<v Speaker 1>also something else is doing a lot of the work

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Oh I like that a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>So is this service like investing on your behalf or

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<v Speaker 3>do you then have to go and like it's recommending this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this portfolio for you and then you investor

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<v Speaker 3>or is it doing it all for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's actually is your money?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it does it all for you? Oh amazing, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>love that way. So earlier in the in the show,

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<v Speaker 3>I talked about money dysmorphia. How does that impact money management?

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<v Speaker 3>And then what's your advice on addressing it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think so many of us have money dysmorphia because

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<v Speaker 5>so many of our relationships with money were dictated based

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<v Speaker 5>on our childhoods. You learn so many of your money

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<v Speaker 5>behaviors from your family, the people you grew up with,

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<v Speaker 5>and maybe they were dealing with something that is not

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<v Speaker 5>even relevant to your life now, but is something that

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<v Speaker 5>is still really, really hard and this impacts people of color,

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<v Speaker 5>immigrant children the hardest. I say that as someone who

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<v Speaker 5>has money dysmorphia, I am in a very different financial

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<v Speaker 5>position now than I was in my early twenties, and

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<v Speaker 5>that is a completely different financial position than my parents

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<v Speaker 5>have ever been in. You know, my parents were the immigrants,

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<v Speaker 5>like they came over I'm first gen and so they

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<v Speaker 5>were constantly worried about scrimping and saving and stuffing money

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<v Speaker 5>under the mattress because they always felt like the other

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<v Speaker 5>shoe was going to drop. You know. They were here

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<v Speaker 5>to survive. But I'm entitled. I was born here, I

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<v Speaker 5>have a blue passport. What are you going to do? Like,

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<v Speaker 5>I am here to thrive, not just survive. But it

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<v Speaker 5>takes a little bit of work on that part to

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<v Speaker 5>remember that, because sometimes, even now, knowing how comfort I

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<v Speaker 5>am in my finances, I'll look at something and belabor

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<v Speaker 5>a decision of should I get it, should I not?

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<v Speaker 5>For hours and then I'm like, on seventeen different websites

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<v Speaker 5>comparing prices seeing where I can do this, that I

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<v Speaker 5>wasted three hours of my time. And I think the

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<v Speaker 5>most valuable thing we need to remember is that, like, ultimately,

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<v Speaker 5>we do not need to let anybody else be the

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<v Speaker 5>main character in our life.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our story.

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<v Speaker 5>We hold the pen. And when it comes to money dysmorphia,

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<v Speaker 5>I think looking at the numbers, as scary as that

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<v Speaker 5>may be, sometimes is one of the most healing and

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<v Speaker 5>honest reflections of what your financial picture actually is versus

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<v Speaker 5>I think I'm doing really badly, or versus the opposite.

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<v Speaker 5>The flip side is like you think you're doing great

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<v Speaker 5>when in fact you've got four dollars and you're about

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<v Speaker 5>to overdraft. So it's just really important to look at

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<v Speaker 5>the numbers because you can lie to yourself, but the

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<v Speaker 5>numbers won't lie to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you saying that because I feel like so

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<v Speaker 3>many people around my age are scared to look at

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<v Speaker 3>their finances. Like, honestly, me included, like I earn a

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<v Speaker 3>good salary, but if you said Gianna gol and like

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<v Speaker 3>see how much is coming in and alley, it literally

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<v Speaker 3>makes me want to throw up. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>it's all about just like level setting with yourself, like

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<v Speaker 3>stop lying to yourself, and then you know it will

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<v Speaker 3>help you stop losing so much sanity over some decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, Vivian, this was so fun. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. If y'all are not following Vivian

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<v Speaker 1>by now, are you living under a rock? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have findance? But where can the people find you?

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<v Speaker 5>You? Guys can find me across all social media, whatever

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<v Speaker 5>is your favorite platform as your rich bff. I'm teaching

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<v Speaker 5>you all personal finance there as well as my book.

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<v Speaker 5>It's titled rich AF The Winning Money Mindset That'll Change

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<v Speaker 5>your life. But if you go to RICHAF dot me, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>I made the rl a manifestation, you can grab a copy.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that manifest That money y'all yet amazing. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you so much, Vivian. I love this conversation. I have

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<v Speaker 3>like a million more questions I can ask you, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's all we got for today.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you guys so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, lots of great tips from Vivian. That combo makes

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<v Speaker 3>me want to see how my four oh one k

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<v Speaker 3>is doing right now. Actually, I'm kind of scared. After

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<v Speaker 3>the break, every workplace has a apper. Is it you

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<v Speaker 3>that's next? Seriously, that was just not enough time with

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<v Speaker 3>a Vivian.

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<v Speaker 1>I my mind is blown. I have so many more questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was doing well until she started talking,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm like, Wow, there's a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>to be done.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the biggest things I'm taking away from our

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<v Speaker 3>conversation one being her fifty thirty twenty budgeting framework. Seems

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<v Speaker 3>like it easy first step. I can definitely do that,

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<v Speaker 3>but the way to get there is my second takeaway,

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<v Speaker 3>Look at your finances. I think it's time I need

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<v Speaker 3>to like audit myself and really just yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta, I gotta face the music.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think we have to see our finances as

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<v Speaker 1>our companions. It's time to spend some time with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Why right, So we have no money for that, no money,

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<v Speaker 1>no money for the wine. For me, I really loved

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<v Speaker 1>the tips that she shared, particularly for communities of color,

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<v Speaker 1>and the pressure that happens when you are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>support a lot of people. You can, but sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to enforce those boundaries and also know maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>can't give you too much now, but I can give

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<v Speaker 1>it to you later. Look at these things as gifts

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<v Speaker 1>and not loans.

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<v Speaker 5>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Another thing that I think was really resonant for

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<v Speaker 1>me was this idea of asking for the money even

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<v Speaker 1>if you know you're not going to get it, Even if,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, you're not in an annual review cycle where

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<v Speaker 1>their money is a flowing, you're not up for promotion.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so good to document and to ask for

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<v Speaker 1>the money because the inflation rate is not enough's high.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to add that I'm taking away from you

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<v Speaker 3>that putting it in your performance review brilliant thought about

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<v Speaker 3>doing that?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not add a little razzle dazzle up in there,

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<v Speaker 1>little season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've never asked for a raise, So we're gonna stop.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a conversation for another anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, so we are now going to toss it over

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<v Speaker 1>and to show the risk sipts. This is a segment

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<v Speaker 1>where we get to take a look at some of

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines and the workplace trends. Maybe Eve had some

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<v Speaker 1>office myths and see if there's any truth to them.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Gee, what are we talking about today?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? We're talking about gen z ors loving yapping

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<v Speaker 3>in the office. Do you know what that means? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you know what a yapper is?

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<v Speaker 1>I know what? My definition is? Someone who just talk

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot, right, Like it's just like yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, ramble, ramble nothing important.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not really like a new term, but gen Z

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's the whole thing with us. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>we're just rebranding. It all comes back fun title generation exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>If you guys remember our side Hustle episode with Janie

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<v Speaker 3>and she called herself a certified yapper, which I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I felt seen in that she woren't proudly yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and as you should. You know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok videos, a lot of articles out there about gen

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<v Speaker 3>Ze calling themselves certified yappers at work, and then there's

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<v Speaker 3>been a lot of reports like is that good in

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<v Speaker 3>the workplace? Right? So some people don't mind it, some

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<v Speaker 3>people are like, shut up. So I'm wondering, do you

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<v Speaker 3>consider yourself the apper? And does the yapping belong in

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<v Speaker 3>the workplace?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So before I answer, let's just put some clarity here.

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<v Speaker 1>So a yapper is someone who talks a lot. Are

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<v Speaker 1>they talking about something important or they're just talking just

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<v Speaker 1>to hear themselves talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I've definitely like called myself a yapper. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think like in the context of work, the way

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<v Speaker 3>that yapping is being portrayed now is like gen Z's

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<v Speaker 3>coming to work. You know, we've been socially isolated for

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<v Speaker 3>a minute, so we're coming in. We want to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's not the most important thing, perhaps, but we're

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<v Speaker 3>just we're just letting it, you know, flow got it

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<v Speaker 3>because we're kind of craving, you know, that connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of a thing of like you want the interaction

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<v Speaker 1>with people, so you'll just kind of talk just to yeah, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>No no. It reminds me like I hate no no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>No no a lot of like when people create small talk

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<v Speaker 1>just to do it. It makes me feel like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you want to talk about something valuable or important,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean I'm not saying like those are not,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I don't want to force conversation just because

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<v Speaker 1>you want interaction, but I also can understand why someone

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<v Speaker 1>would want to do that. That's why I have my

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<v Speaker 1>headphones at my desk that I put them on the

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<v Speaker 1>over the ear kind so you kind of miss them.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to yap to Jamay and she could

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<v Speaker 3>not hear me because they were noise canceling.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like consider myself a yap or honestly, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not ashamed. I do think I can yap, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's situational. Like if I'm at work and I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>at my desk and I'm in the zone, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>there's a time and place, is what I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 3>for yapping, right, Like if we're walking to get coffee,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I'm blabbling to you. Maybe we're like having a

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<v Speaker 3>offline you know, conversation. Fine, we're yapping, but like at

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<v Speaker 3>my desk, come up and dest bond me and start yapping.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. No, I'm overstimulated as is and now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm crashing.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I just want to size this for all

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<v Speaker 1>of you morning yappers.

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<v Speaker 3>Count your days. I'm a morning person, but don't talk

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<v Speaker 3>to me before I have my co do.

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<v Speaker 1>Not like the eight o'clockers who are like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you about everything that's happening in the

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<v Speaker 1>world and how I want to like solve for world hunger.

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<v Speaker 1>Save it for none, not even noon, not even noone,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm going to lunch, like please save it. Yeah no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the apping can be effective, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>even more effective is intentional networking, coming in with an

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<v Speaker 1>intention and setting the goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you just got to be mindful of other people

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<v Speaker 3>in their time, like people you know not always open

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<v Speaker 3>to the apping.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, Well I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to know if you all are certified yappers or if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are sort of a let me put my

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<v Speaker 1>headphones on. I'm gonna skip the app in more dap

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<v Speaker 1>for the tap like to may But anyway, guys, let

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<v Speaker 1>us know. We would love to know. And thank you

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