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Speaker 1: Duke is heading to its Elite eight for the third
Speaker 1: straight year thanks to an eighty seventy five victory over
Speaker 1: Saint John red Men Carlos Boos Cam Boozer started out slowly,
Speaker 1: but he had thirteen points and nine rebounds after half
Speaker 1: Foster suffer the fraction foot just twenty days ago was
Speaker 1: a game changer in the second half. Those guys let
Speaker 1: it go from the three point line. He came up
Speaker 1: to basically have eleven points on five or seven shooting
Speaker 1: after the half. Ah Man, we looked at it. I
Speaker 1: knew this game was gonna be good.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised with all the size, especially the big bodies
Speaker 1: that Saint Johnson Joe show, that they were able to
Speaker 1: out rebound them by thirteen edge of four Big East
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. They got some big bodies, and
Speaker 1: I thought they would do a better job on the
Speaker 1: glass than what they did against Duke. Give Duke credit.
Speaker 1: They hit some big shots down the stretch and they
Speaker 1: got because Saint John's had got out to a nice league,
Speaker 1: but Duke would not go away. They scratched and clawed
Speaker 1: and got and they end up pulling it out. Joe,
Speaker 1: what did you like about what you saw from the
Speaker 1: Blue Man? Just se gritting toughness that they played with. Okay, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: I thought, I.
Speaker 3: Thought Saint John's had some guys too, you know that
Speaker 3: that could tame Boozer whish they did in that first half,
Speaker 3: and I just thought in the second half, you know,
Speaker 3: he just kind of put his head down and started
Speaker 3: making plays. And that's what that's what great players do.
Speaker 3: That's why he will be a lottery pick in this
Speaker 3: upcoming draft. He gonna be a top I believe it
Speaker 3: will be at least the top three pick. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you'll go number one.
Speaker 1: You know, you hear the speculation, the barb you got Peterson,
Speaker 1: but he ain't getting passed ain't gonna.
Speaker 2: Get passed through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's been a winner his whole life, you know,
Speaker 3: from from since I've even known about him in high
Speaker 3: school through au all the way to do.
Speaker 2: Uh, he's a winner, bro.
Speaker 3: But I don't see them going too much farther because
Speaker 3: I feel like, uh, you know, Evans had a great game.
Speaker 2: He made some tough shots, he made some big shots.
Speaker 3: But oo, it's like nobody else, everybody else was just
Speaker 3: kind of out there, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 3: I thought Saint John's got off to a great start.
Speaker 3: You know that that I thought. I said, you know what,
Speaker 3: I like how Saint John's played because they pick up
Speaker 3: full court. You know, they weigh you down. I said,
Speaker 3: if they can sustain this, they may be all right,
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day. Saint John's got
Speaker 3: big guys. That's juniors and seniors versus versus Duke, who
Speaker 3: are relying on a freshman, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I thought that would come to play too. But
Speaker 3: obviously Duke answered the bell. They got back in the
Speaker 3: game and was able to, you know, pretty much take
Speaker 3: take advantage of it. But all in all, men, I
Speaker 3: thought it was a great game. I thought Saint Johns
Speaker 3: could have done more, though, you know, they got guys
Speaker 3: who was just I don't know.
Speaker 2: Edgefort had to be better. He was six or seventeen.
Speaker 1: He was big East player to year, defensive guy, big
Speaker 1: body guys, Hopkins. They got, Like I said, I thought
Speaker 1: they would have guys that can match up at least. Look,
Speaker 1: Booze is gonna get his points. He's a big, big kid,
Speaker 1: big strong body as an NBA body, and he happens
Speaker 1: to be a freshman in college. You look at his
Speaker 1: dad and you see how his dad played the game
Speaker 1: of basketball. You look at his dad built, so you're
Speaker 1: not surprised that he has that type of a body.
Speaker 1: But I was just looking and I agree with you, Joe,
Speaker 1: when you look at these guys Saint John's have juniors
Speaker 1: and seniors, and they got grown in bodies, and I
Speaker 1: thought they would do a better job of keeping him
Speaker 1: off the glass. And that's where they started getting hurt
Speaker 1: because when Duke misshot, they would get the rebound, and
Speaker 1: they would miss a shot again and they would.
Speaker 2: Get the rebound.
Speaker 1: At some point in time, that's gonna come back to
Speaker 1: bite you because I think one time the school with
Speaker 1: fifty four forty five and I was like, Okay, Saint
Speaker 1: John's gets some separation. But you look back up in
Speaker 1: the next day, you know it's a three poot call
Speaker 1: game because Duke was relentless on the glass.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe, I was gonna say say the same thing.
Speaker 5: Obviously, despite Saint John's size, the second chance points that
Speaker 5: Duke was able to get. Obviously they did very well
Speaker 5: guardan Booze in the first half, but Unkle, it all
Speaker 5: comes down to who wants more. Yeah, you know, being
Speaker 5: able to will what it is you want to do,
Speaker 5: whether whether it's getting second chance points, whether it's where
Speaker 5: it's crashing the boards and and allowing your team another possession,
Speaker 5: you know, on the ball. I mean Duke did that
Speaker 5: first half. Obviously s John played well, but second half.
Speaker 4: I mean it was due. It was Duke all day. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna get in trouble.
Speaker 5: Obviously, once you get down into lead eight offensively only
Speaker 5: having two players that were efficient from the field and
Speaker 5: and Boozer and goddamn Evans, you're gonna need more.
Speaker 4: You're gonna need more your players to come in.
Speaker 5: And contribute, you know, you know, to those game, because
Speaker 5: it's not gonna be as easy as it was you
Speaker 5: got in the second half when you play better team.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I agree with you. Oh Joe, I'll think
Speaker 3: about this, you know, edge of four. The the reason
Speaker 3: why you know we have uh game changes, game managers
Speaker 3: and people who can control the game is because when
Speaker 3: you look at Boozer, you know he started he hey
Speaker 3: look he wasn't getting it on the block. What do
Speaker 3: he started doing? He started bringing up the court, he
Speaker 3: started playing point guard.
Speaker 2: He was at the top of the key.
Speaker 3: He was getting a pick and roll that you four
Speaker 3: can't do that, you know what I mean, that's not
Speaker 3: his game.
Speaker 2: So this is what I'm saying, game changer. It just
Speaker 2: being a freshman, Like we.
Speaker 3: Were just saying, he's gonna be a He's gonna be
Speaker 3: a top three pick and if he can wield them,
Speaker 3: you know, continue to keep willing them to the next round.
Speaker 3: Dude got a chance, man, because these are some dogs.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: He ain't play against no, no, no backyard boys over there.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, he played
Speaker 2: against the dogs, the guys.
Speaker 1: I think the difference in the ball game was Evans
Speaker 1: because every time if Saint John's made a run that
Speaker 1: would get a lead, Evans.
Speaker 2: Would come down a three.
Speaker 1: They would do something else that Evans would do, would
Speaker 1: make another spectacular play. He was a difference like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Booze did what he did. Boo's got that AD one
Speaker 1: and that was a phenomenal player and his daddy they're
Speaker 1: paying the yeah and bo going crazy. But it was
Speaker 1: Evans because they took they took the lead back Joe
Speaker 1: by two and here come and come Isaiah everth come
Speaker 1: back bang of DP three would have got in his face.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That that that that showed That shows me something there
Speaker 1: because I felt that they if Saint John's could have
Speaker 1: got to stop there, maybe like okay, now we go
Speaker 1: down and get another get another basket, and now we
Speaker 1: got to you know, okay, you needed three the times
Speaker 1: but he didn't waste any time. I mean, he came
Speaker 1: back and he pulled it. He let it go bang
Speaker 1: right in his right in his eyes. And then it
Speaker 1: was back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
Speaker 1: You get uh, and you're like, Caleb Foster hit the
Speaker 1: you know him, step back.
Speaker 2: It's just Duke.
Speaker 1: When Duke absolutely had the habit, the guys that they
Speaker 1: count on, they came through. And that's the mark of
Speaker 1: a good team. When you absolutely gotta have something. Can
Speaker 1: your guys come through and make a play When they
Speaker 1: needed a rebound booth, look got it. When they needed
Speaker 1: a big shot, their guys hit it. Saint John's didn't
Speaker 1: get that. And like you said, I'm looking at these
Speaker 1: big guys, I'm like, okay, yeah, he hey.
Speaker 2: Duke.
Speaker 1: You know Duke coming to coming to play with eighteen
Speaker 1: year olds, Saint John's comes showing up between one year olds.
Speaker 1: There's a difference between the two. And I was just like, damn,
Speaker 1: I am shocked. If somebody would have told me that
Speaker 1: Duke would out rebound Saint John's by thirteen, given what
Speaker 1: they have insides, wise, maturity, I wouldn't have believed that Joe.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't there's not a chance in there that I
Speaker 3: wouldn't either because coach by Rick Patino. You know, his
Speaker 3: teams are always gritty, tough. They they pick up full
Speaker 3: court and uh they played pressure defense. Even when you
Speaker 3: remember back in the days when he was coaching the
Speaker 3: Kentucky teams, you know you you weren't going in uh
Speaker 3: in Kentucky Arena as a ruugh arena.
Speaker 2: You weren't going to no none of that. Ain't getting
Speaker 2: no win.
Speaker 3: But back to the Evans kid for Duke, you know,
Speaker 3: he got a chance to be a lot of the pick,
Speaker 3: you know, this year. So if I'm him, I want
Speaker 3: to continue this pace. I want to continue my trajectory
Speaker 3: as far as being a lottery pick. And and this
Speaker 3: year is NBA Draft, so I think you'll get good
Speaker 3: money from him, you know, with Douke, But they gonna
Speaker 3: need more than just them two guys to continue. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is I mean, eighty points ain't bad though, you
Speaker 3: know in college, you know we think about it, but
Speaker 3: Arizona hung one hundred and something on us, So I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: Damn, man, come on, man, gotta be a good one.
Speaker 1: They got yukon. Next we're gonna talk about Yukon. Here,
Speaker 1: that's another green team. Two teams that get after you,
Speaker 1: that to pick you up.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: The difference you see, Shy is kind of like more
Speaker 1: laid back. Dan Hurley is up. Yeah he uh he
Speaker 1: reminds that guy that Bobby Knight, that that that is
Speaker 1: that guy up and and and and right there Coach
Speaker 1: Richards at the marketsall sharks come a little bit more calm,
Speaker 1: he got you know, he got a little he got
Speaker 1: he got a Yukon Garro. Excuse me, girro.
Speaker 2: You know he.
Speaker 1: The brother dad heard him like, and you really about that?
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, calm down, damn hey, it's a time out.
Speaker 2: Why you up yelling? It's a timeout.
Speaker 1: They coming to the bus. But he's really intense. But
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a great matchup. I mean you talk
Speaker 1: about you know, uh, just a year year, two years ago,
Speaker 1: Yukon went back to back, two blue bloods. Uh, two
Speaker 1: teams that know what it's like to win championships, that
Speaker 1: has that pedigree, and you go there, you understand what's
Speaker 1: expected of you.
Speaker 2: The standard is the standard.
Speaker 1: The standard was set thirty years before you arrived, before
Speaker 1: you were even scorn The standard at Yukon is the
Speaker 1: standard of Yukon.
Speaker 2: The standard that duke is the standard of that duke.
Speaker 1: And they were led to programs were, you know, put
Speaker 1: on the map by Hall of Fame coaches, coach K
Speaker 1: and then what's the guy you at Yukon, what's his coach?
Speaker 2: What's the coach name that you can the old coach? Uh?
Speaker 2: I know he's talking about I can't think of his name.
Speaker 1: Some cal Hon, Yeah, Jim Calhoun, Yeah, Jim Calhoun, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jim Calhoun. All the great players we know, all the
Speaker 1: great players that came through, all the great players that
Speaker 1: came through Yukon.
Speaker 2: And this is just a we just continue this feline.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be that's gonna be some kind of
Speaker 1: that's what they play Saturday, so that's gonna be no.
Speaker 3: Sunday. Oh, that's gonna be something. Man, That's that's gonna be.
Speaker 3: Is getting good now, it's getting good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yukon. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Now I'm trying to say, we're just gonna just slide
Speaker 3: by Saint John, because that's who you had winning.
Speaker 2: We smoking on that Saint John's back to night they
Speaker 2: were you had said, John's going to know you.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, my team went out yesterday. We talking about
Speaker 3: your team that you had picked.
Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about y'all sitting that argon.
Speaker 4: Guess who didn't have him winning? Guess who didn't have
Speaker 4: him winning?
Speaker 1: Your mask gotta be out the market.
Speaker 2: You're smoking on that Saint John's back to night.
Speaker 4: I got this little Saint John pack Ma.
Speaker 2: You know, look at you. You see how y'all do
Speaker 2: see yo, I wasn't doing on ThisDay.
Speaker 3: Man, y'all look y'all already had before we got online.
Speaker 2: It was already a real already for her.
Speaker 1: Come on man, over time over there. I didn't have
Speaker 1: nothing to do with that, Joe. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see y'all over company, But I ain't charge on man,
Speaker 1: Yes you are. If a shoe man functions, you don't
Speaker 1: get mad. You don't get mad at them, feel Knight,
Speaker 1: You get mad at you, saying I got why you
Speaker 1: mad cause you just thank the graphics team. You think, Bailey,
Speaker 1: you think this would that was? And now you're talking
Speaker 1: about me.
Speaker 3: Hey, look, I know who I know who are I
Speaker 3: know the infrastructure now, I know who are working inside.
Speaker 2: I know who up there? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I seen the names on there to day.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Bailey, ain't none of you're working overtime though,
Speaker 1: How y'all come out with a reel already gained just
Speaker 1: a over two minutes ago. I mean, I mean they
Speaker 1: had plenty of time to work on it. They saw
Speaker 1: y'all die by twenty with fifteen minutes ago. All right,
Speaker 1: you gave a plenty You gave a plenty of time
Speaker 1: to work on it.
Speaker 2: You can't beat Michigan State.
Speaker 1: To hang on to beat Michigan State, Tyres Reed Junior
Speaker 1: scored twenty points, Alex Caravan has seventeen. Both made pressure
Speaker 1: pack free throws in the final minutes to help Yukon
Speaker 1: hold off Michigan State. I thought this game was gonna
Speaker 1: be a blowout early again Michigan credit credit Michigan State
Speaker 1: credit because they were down fifteen seventeen points early and
Speaker 1: they thought it more than that, clawed their way back in,
Speaker 1: made it respectable. I half, all you got to do
Speaker 1: is let's let's let's stay, let's go into the half.
Speaker 1: We can't be down. Let's not be died by more
Speaker 1: than five. If we could make it the ball can
Speaker 1: we got twenty minutes to do something? Give Michigan State credit.
Speaker 1: But yu Can thirty two and five back to back
Speaker 1: national championship ten years ago, and it seemed to be
Speaker 1: there on the way. Hey, they're a good team found ways.
Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna need They're gonna need They're
Speaker 1: gonna need more. Yes, they're gonna need more. Their bitch
Speaker 1: only gave them seven, only gave them eight points. They
Speaker 1: gonna need those guys gonna happen. Well, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: Michigan State like them low scoring games. They ain't thet
Speaker 1: They ain't trying to play up in the eighties and
Speaker 1: the nineties.
Speaker 3: They ain't what Michigan State do. You know, they they
Speaker 3: don't even have them type of players.
Speaker 2: And I talk about game changers and game managers.
Speaker 3: Uh. I thought Michigan State they play well as a team.
Speaker 3: So does Yukon uncle oho. I think Yukon't just got
Speaker 3: you know, they got some guys who can really take
Speaker 3: over and really be, you know, a game change. They
Speaker 3: continue to take you, you know, farther than the tournament.
Speaker 3: Not only that, you know, they they tough, gritty, play aggressive,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I know we're playing
Speaker 3: everybody think basketball is just this for this game and
Speaker 3: you don't get to man, listen, you can't out that
Speaker 3: playing bro. They competing, they competing, they touching you.
Speaker 5: Hey, hey uncle, you know I I think they let
Speaker 5: them play a little bit more in college than what
Speaker 5: they do they do they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, damn, they ain't gonna lie. I like that.
Speaker 2: I like because even when you see.
Speaker 3: The vert catti vert catally, I can't even say the
Speaker 3: word the vertical challenge, when guys are straight.
Speaker 2: Up verta caliy uh, yeah, you know they don't call that.
Speaker 3: It don't matter how hard you run into a dude,
Speaker 3: long as he don't come over you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think. I think you're right.
Speaker 3: I think they're a lot more aggressive in college than
Speaker 3: the pros and the pros because you know, guys gonna
Speaker 3: be flaking and flopping and they they trying to sell
Speaker 3: a call college. You don't really get that. You know,
Speaker 3: you don't really get that in college, guys they competing.
Speaker 1: The guys don't stay long enough and built up that
Speaker 1: kind of credit.
Speaker 2: You don't get a Crustian Latner.
Speaker 1: You're not getting again Duncan, You're not getting Bobby Hurler
Speaker 1: and Grant Hills guys that are played and officials know
Speaker 1: them since the freshman, sophomore, junior. Here they are seniors playing.
Speaker 1: You don't get that anymore, Joe. So these guys here,
Speaker 1: they get good at them. Ain't no saying, but hey,
Speaker 1: I appreciate, I appreciate the hospitality. It was great being
Speaker 1: on campus for six months.
Speaker 2: But I'm out of here.
Speaker 1: So those days, so you're not gonna get a player
Speaker 1: that if he's really good, he wanted done.
Speaker 2: It ain't.
Speaker 1: If he's halfway good, he's wanting done. You're never gonna
Speaker 1: get another Tim Duncan. You're never gonna get another Kenyon Martin.
Speaker 1: Those days are over. Guys that stayed four years are senior.
Speaker 1: Kenyon Martin was the last senior to go number one overall.
Speaker 1: That was in two thousand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: they ain't.
Speaker 2: That was that was a quarter of CRIC goal.
Speaker 1: I don't believe you'll ever see it again because the
Speaker 1: guys are like, there's too much money at the next
Speaker 1: destination for me to.
Speaker 4: State exactly, and you know what I think it's gonna
Speaker 4: come down to.
Speaker 5: So obviously that I think, obviously look at Duke, you
Speaker 5: look at Yukon, you look at what Caravan and read
Speaker 5: you were able to do, Yeah, and dominating and controlling
Speaker 5: the game being the ones who are going to score
Speaker 5: the points. You look at Duke, they had two players
Speaker 5: I think are gonna come down to what other players
Speaker 5: are gonna contribute, not just on the bench. I'm talking
Speaker 5: about that starting five. You got people that got that
Speaker 5: gonna be able to will themselves and score points who
Speaker 5: you want to. Then you have three that are somewhat
Speaker 5: just decoration on the court. I don't I don't mean
Speaker 5: that in a disrespectful way, but I'm just saying there's
Speaker 5: really no contribution on the point side. They contribute in
Speaker 5: other areas, but I think as far as points scoring,
Speaker 5: someone else is gonna have to step up, And obviously
Speaker 5: the bench. I think the bench is gonna be very
Speaker 5: important for Duke and Yukon and who's able to come
Speaker 5: off the bench and contribute in those times, in those
Speaker 5: pursure situations to kind of not ease the pain, but
Speaker 5: make the game a little easier, to take some of
Speaker 5: the pressure off the starters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well you can't.
Speaker 3: They really They gonna take a collective team effort to
Speaker 3: really beat you.
Speaker 2: Oho.
Speaker 3: You know, they ain't really just gonna rely on one
Speaker 3: guy like this, even though Red had a ell for game,
Speaker 3: but they got other guys who can who can step
Speaker 3: up and have big games as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing.
Speaker 1: That concerns me about Yukon is they got out rebounded
Speaker 1: by nine and Mission in Michigan State is not a
Speaker 1: big team. They Michigan, but so just but just think
Speaker 1: about how Duke hit the glass with Booze and the
Speaker 1: big kid, the other kid.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a lottery peat.
Speaker 1: But this is if you let them get the glass
Speaker 1: like that, if you got that rebounding, you get that
Speaker 1: right abound about fifteen because Duke one thing they do,
Speaker 1: they hit the glass.
Speaker 2: Boozs are gonna get those rebounds. I mean, we talked
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: He's twenty two and ten, that's where he was to night,
Speaker 1: twenty two and ten, and I like the fact that
Speaker 1: of the matter is that he doesn't press. I love
Speaker 1: Booze because he doesn't press. He's like, Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: worry about I got the whole another half. Ain't no
Speaker 1: sense of me taking these willing nilly shots. I ain't
Speaker 1: finish jack up threes. I ain't finish shooting no fall
Speaker 1: away jumpers. I'm gonna let it come. You watch it.
Speaker 1: He'll get easy baskets, he'll get a lay up, he'll
Speaker 1: get a put back, and next day, you know, he's
Speaker 1: a rhythm. He's getting to the free throw line. He's
Speaker 1: in a rhythm. You call got u. Car's gonna definitely
Speaker 1: have to play better than what they played today, and
Speaker 1: I expect him too. I beg dan Early is gonna look, guys, hey,
Speaker 1: we gotta we have. We won surviving advance, we won
Speaker 1: the ball game. But in order for us to go
Speaker 1: to the final four, we're gonna have to beat the
Speaker 1: number one overall. See, a team that by many thought
Speaker 1: would was picked and winning at the beginning of the season,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to play one of our best
Speaker 1: games of the year in order.
Speaker 2: To I agree.
Speaker 3: But but but remember what we was talking about, the experience.
Speaker 3: They ain't got nothing but juniors and sings. Okay, you
Speaker 3: know they got some guys who would experience. So that
Speaker 3: experience against that freshman talent that Duke has, I think
Speaker 3: it can help. I think it can help you con
Speaker 3: and you know in a different way like it can
Speaker 3: help it, I think it can help them propel and
Speaker 3: win the game, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I can see them beating Dupe, but I can too.
Speaker 1: But but what concerns me is that for those guys
Speaker 1: to be pressure and to be in that situation, I
Speaker 1: thought they handled the pressure well. I thought Duke guards
Speaker 1: handled the pressure well, because we know Michigan, we know
Speaker 1: Izzo teams like the pressure, you like not to get
Speaker 1: up into you. And I thought they did a great
Speaker 1: job of handling that. So they weren't our other moment.
Speaker 1: They weren't all like, damn, I just left high school.
Speaker 1: So much I'm doing out here. There's like, hey, yeah
Speaker 1: you do. And I think it has a lot to
Speaker 1: do with the expectations you go to do. You know
Speaker 1: what expectations are, you know the you know you uh
Speaker 1: And you see guys, I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 1: many these guys were there in the summer.
Speaker 2: And you see the guys come back.
Speaker 1: You see Zion, and you see all these other guys
Speaker 1: come back, and R J. Barrett and and Tatum and
Speaker 1: this one and that one in Ingram and this one
Speaker 1: and they come back and hey, don't you mess this up?
Speaker 1: Dawkins and America and Danny Ferry they started this and
Speaker 1: later and Chris here and Christian Ladner and all these guys,
Speaker 1: they continue this and so forth and so on. So
Speaker 1: don't y'all mess this up? Don't I agree? I agree,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good one. Who you got? Who
Speaker 1: you got y'all brackets all messed up? We got Joe?
Speaker 4: So can you come?
Speaker 3: I just can't pick Duke. You say you can't pick Duke?
Speaker 3: Why you just gotta be a b D anybody?
Speaker 4: But I forgot. I forgot how we got jo Jo?
Speaker 2: Who? They play? Duke play? Who again? You calling? I'm
Speaker 2: talking about? Oh? They play? You come? Yeah? I think
Speaker 2: I'm I think I'm gonna go. You come. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go. You come.
Speaker 3: Because the experience that they have, and I just feel like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know Bull's gonna give you twenty and ten. I
Speaker 3: don't know if Evan's gonna continue to play at that
Speaker 3: level he played at today.
Speaker 2: He shot the lights out of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah No, I mean, hey, hey, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you'll have another out of body experience
Speaker 1: like that Joe and Ojo. But he shot the lights
Speaker 1: out of the ball to they know he doesn't play
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have this game. They're not advanced, Joe.
Speaker 1: They're not advancing. If he doesn't play like he plays today,
Speaker 1: they're not.
Speaker 3: And that's why I said that, And that's why if
Speaker 3: I'm him, if I'm the Evans kid, I'm thinking to myself, Man, listen,
Speaker 3: my draft my draft stock can continue to rise if
Speaker 3: I just continue to keep playing you know, great basketball.
Speaker 3: He gonna have to he's gonna have to give him
Speaker 3: twenty He's gonna have to give him twenty plus a
Speaker 3: game too. Now, I know we're putting a lot on Booze,
Speaker 3: but but Evans, you know, he didn't been there. He'd
Speaker 3: been playing on this big stage. Boob's been playing on
Speaker 3: this big stage since he been playing high school.
Speaker 1: And you yeah, yeah, they are messing to it. You know,
Speaker 1: when your dad is who you're you live. First of all,
Speaker 1: if you play a sport that your dad played, you
Speaker 1: already know what the expectations are.
Speaker 4: You got to deal with the comparisons that you got.
Speaker 2: I know it's messed up.
Speaker 3: It's messed up too, because I don't know about y'all,
Speaker 3: but me as a father, it's like, you know, with
Speaker 3: my son playing basketball, you know what I mean, it's
Speaker 3: like I can't. Really, it's hard for me to really
Speaker 3: get on him like I really want to, because they're like, man,
Speaker 3: he ain't you, he ain't. I'm like, Bro, I'm giving
Speaker 3: you the game. I'm telling you how to beat these
Speaker 3: suckers out here. Man, I'll tell you I got the blueprint.
Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 1: It's easy for somebody else to coach your son. I
Speaker 1: was trying to, Hey, I just let you know what. Hey,
Speaker 1: listen to them. I mean, forget the fact that they
Speaker 1: I was on Super Bowl winning teams. I was a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. I was All Pro catching the football. But
Speaker 1: you know what listened to the guy that that played
Speaker 1: didn't go farther.
Speaker 2: Now, that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. You're right. So,
Speaker 2: but you know.
Speaker 1: As a if you were a professional athlete and your
Speaker 1: son plays the sport that you played, see if he
Speaker 1: plays a different sport, they're like, Okay, his dad was
Speaker 1: a basketball player, football player, or his dad was a
Speaker 1: football player, he a basketball player, or he a baseball player.
Speaker 1: But when you played that same sport, the expectations, whether
Speaker 1: it's fair or unfair, people automatically. But Bro, that's the
Speaker 1: jeans I mean.
Speaker 4: That, yeah, always, and.
Speaker 1: It is and it is what it is. And now
Speaker 1: you know, talking talking to Griffy Jr. And Griffy Jr.
Speaker 1: Like it was just hard to watch his son play,
Speaker 1: he said, because he would go there and be sitting
Speaker 1: in the stands and and people say he ain't nothing
Speaker 1: like you and Griffy and juniors, and Griffy say, well
Speaker 1: tell me five.
Speaker 2: It's so it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Griffy says that when his dad would come see him play,
Speaker 1: he couldn't do nothing. He said, his dad would have
Speaker 1: to sneak up in the r V and just watch
Speaker 1: from a distance. He wouldn't know his dad was there,
Speaker 1: he said, But when his mom come, say, his dad
Speaker 1: would call.
Speaker 2: His mom said, what that boy do? Uh? He I
Speaker 2: think he was like three for four two home when
Speaker 2: I was there. Yeah, because because he said he that
Speaker 2: when I was there.
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's like, I mean, just imagine your
Speaker 1: Peyton Manny dadd It was Archie number two pick in
Speaker 1: the draft. You know, the expectations are, oh, Joe yo,
Speaker 1: my kid, your kid, My my son just said, I
Speaker 1: don't want it. I don't want I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that. My dad played, I got my uncle. I
Speaker 1: don't want nothing, no part of that.
Speaker 3: Why I think it's so hard to duplicate though, Like,
Speaker 3: that's why I respect Joe.
Speaker 2: You didn't have. You didn't have.
Speaker 1: Just imagine if your dad played in the NBA. See
Speaker 1: you got, you got to smooth right along, Like, damn, man,
Speaker 1: Joe really good. There was no comparison. Automatically, I had
Speaker 1: to get compared to my my brother, three year old
Speaker 1: of me.
Speaker 2: He's a senior.
Speaker 1: I'm a freshman. So the comparisons are there. I'm like,
Speaker 1: but damn, he my brother, not my dad. I know
Speaker 1: we got, I know we got. We got the same
Speaker 1: mass dad, the same parents.
Speaker 2: But damn.
Speaker 1: But I embraced that. It's hard to live up to
Speaker 1: that expect those that others put on you. You might
Speaker 1: not like, hey, I'm just going along.
Speaker 5: I'm just like, hey, yeah, you know Joe, Joe Andunk.
Speaker 5: That's how I think it was with my son. Obviously,
Speaker 5: my son Joe played Arizona State. He played receiver out
Speaker 5: there in Arizona State, played a Venice High school. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and obviously with the Arizona Stapers with Jadon Dan before
Speaker 5: Jaden's transferred over to the God damn l s U.
Speaker 4: Really I didn't. I didn't understand the pressures and the comparisons,
Speaker 4: you know, to it.
Speaker 5: But I think my son got to a point where
Speaker 5: I think he was somewhat fed up with it. I
Speaker 5: think he in a sense, he he kind of played
Speaker 5: football because I did it. I think I don't think
Speaker 5: it was really his first he was really his first love.
Speaker 5: That's not what I think he did just because I
Speaker 5: did it. I think the comparisons to him, I don't
Speaker 5: know if it got to him a little bit, But
Speaker 5: I don't think he loved the game the way I did.
Speaker 5: You know, maybe his aspiration, his dreams, maybe it wasn't
Speaker 5: to play in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You know, he had a he had a nice you.
Speaker 1: He didn't have the same stimuli that you had. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a whole that's a whole different ball. And that's
Speaker 1: what I tell people, my son stimuli. My son got
Speaker 1: to come in and hit the garage on the three
Speaker 1: co garage in the ten thousand bus. Shanna didn't have
Speaker 1: no garage. Shanna have send the block plaws, I mean,
Speaker 1: send the block home.
Speaker 5: To different You gotta really want it, you gotta really
Speaker 5: want the gotta be something that you really love to do,
Speaker 5: you know. And I don't think he really really loved
Speaker 5: the game like that. And and I'm one, and Joe,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't. I don't push my kids to
Speaker 5: do nothing. I support you. But if it's not what
Speaker 5: you want to do, whatever endeavors you endeavors it is
Speaker 5: that you you that that that attract you.
Speaker 4: And interests you, I'm all for it. I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: My youngest son, Save he different mentally, He different. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he's a dog and he actually wants it. Ain't got
Speaker 5: nothing to do with me, and he's gonna care nothing
Speaker 5: but no comparisons because he talking trash to me already
Speaker 5: as a sophomore high school, talk about I'm bigger than you.
Speaker 2: He a receiver.
Speaker 4: Joe, Yeah, man, Dad, I'm better than what you mean,
Speaker 4: you better than me? Well you better check you better
Speaker 4: check you too, who you're talking to. He's either a
Speaker 4: different kind of animal.
Speaker 5: So I can see him already, you know, playing on Sunday,
Speaker 5: and just because of his mentality, you know you want it,
Speaker 5: you want it.
Speaker 2: It's really simple.
Speaker 1: Oh you out the same way I tell him, I
Speaker 1: can't want something more for you than you want them
Speaker 1: for yourself. I'm not gonna push you in any direction,
Speaker 1: but all I ask don't waste my time money. If
Speaker 1: you want to do this, if you need a coach,
Speaker 1: if you need whatever you need, I will get you
Speaker 1: whatever you need to help you be the absolute best
Speaker 1: you can be in what you want to do. But
Speaker 1: don't waste my time and money. If that's not what
Speaker 1: you want to do. Don't do it because your mom
Speaker 1: wanted to do don't do it because your friends do it.
Speaker 1: Do it because you want to do it. And if
Speaker 1: you want to do it, I'm gonna move heaven and
Speaker 1: earth to try to make sure you get the best.
Speaker 2: So you can agree. I agree.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's that. That's that's all I asked. Don't
Speaker 1: waste my time and don't waste my mind. If you
Speaker 1: want to be you want to be an astronaut. Hell,
Speaker 1: if I got a call Neil Tyson and the grog,
Speaker 1: hey bro, check this out, my son.
Speaker 2: Say I don't do it.
Speaker 1: I'm just said Joe I would do. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: whatever I can. But if that's not what you want
Speaker 1: to do, and it's it's it's hard growing up in
Speaker 1: the shadows because there's a separation between you and your
Speaker 1: your your kids. But just think of me and my
Speaker 1: brother every everything. Broy, you ain't good at your brother,
Speaker 1: your brother? Oh, man, your brother been gone. Oh your
Speaker 1: brother did that? Your brother did man?
Speaker 2: Man? Your brother ran ten five? Man, you ain't running.
Speaker 4: But ten nine? What damn? That's still pretty fad.
Speaker 1: So but it didn't never bother me. See, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't live in my brother other shadow. I embraced it.
Speaker 1: So when they told me, ah, you ain't as good
Speaker 1: as your brother, I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show you.
Speaker 1: Now as a high schooler, I could have been better
Speaker 1: had I applied myself. I was just so much mortality
Speaker 1: to everybody else. So, Joe, I ain't do no work
Speaker 1: in lifting weights. For what I lift them tobacco racks,
Speaker 1: I lift them bells of hey, I lifted watermelons and
Speaker 1: bushel the corn and onions. That's when I lifted to
Speaker 1: get their body. Once I got to college and I
Speaker 1: started lifting weights, and I saw my body change. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my, oh, Joe, I went from like one eighty
Speaker 1: to two on five. So when we stopped playing football
Speaker 1: in November and by the time we had spring practice.
Speaker 2: I was two on bods. What yeah, man, my brother came.
Speaker 1: When my brother came and saw me, he said, man,
Speaker 1: what they feed you in Savada State. I say, they
Speaker 1: don't feed us in a better state on the South Carolina.
Speaker 1: That's for damn sure. Then he came back my junior year.
Speaker 1: Now I'm like two twenty.
Speaker 4: God from twenty.
Speaker 2: Lifted, you know, he told me.
Speaker 1: He told me my junior year, he said, you gonna
Speaker 1: lift because I want to be I say, I want
Speaker 1: to be a member.
Speaker 2: Of four six club.
Speaker 1: He said four six What I said, No, I want
Speaker 1: to been four hundred pounds the squad six hundred. He said,
Speaker 1: you gonna lift yourself into a three point stance.
Speaker 2: I've been damn o Joe.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: He told me about junior a college. He said, you
Speaker 1: will lift yourself into a three points game.
Speaker 5: That's crazy. He was part of the four six club.
Speaker 5: Damn No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just squat thought I was. I could bitch four hundred.
Speaker 1: I could never squat six.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I was part of the three sixth club.
Speaker 5: Then when I was at when when in Cincinnati three
Speaker 5: sixth club, you know, when I was a Cincinnati I
Speaker 5: was still I was.
Speaker 4: I was thin framed, Joe.
Speaker 5: I mean the big the biggest I got in Cincinnaty,
Speaker 5: probably about about one ninety.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could been through fifteen.
Speaker 5: I will work out with the linebacker some time, and
Speaker 5: I work out with the office of Lineman. When it
Speaker 5: came to doing the little body work on I think
Speaker 5: what Fridays did the little body Yeah my Friday, Joe.
Speaker 1: No, I couldn't leg cut. You're supposed to cut legs
Speaker 1: out on Thursday. You don't do no legs after that.
Speaker 1: You don't want your legs heavy. Your legs wouldn't be
Speaker 1: heavy you you did later.
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, I can't remember the schedule.
Speaker 5: If I used to work with the linean Joe, you
Speaker 5: know I squated by six fifty six seventies.
Speaker 1: Joe, Damn yeah, Joe, yeah, yeah, no lying if if
Speaker 1: it was noted, he squat six seventy seven hundred, he
Speaker 1: is he won the strongest man ever.
Speaker 4: On the Strongest Man. I might be one of the
Speaker 4: strongest men that ever played in the NFL. Yes, nobody either.
Speaker 1: I don't know about is so small, so you never know, man, Listen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do know I look at the legs first of all.
Speaker 1: Your He'll say, wide enough to hold that kind of weight.
Speaker 1: You look at guys that squat a lot of weight.
Speaker 1: But hey, hold on, I got hit like a fat person.
Speaker 1: What you're talking about?
Speaker 4: Man, Come on, dude, ain't gonna I'm gonna show it
Speaker 4: to you right now because that's inappropriate.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I might give you. I might give you.
Speaker 2: I might give you four fifty with the squats a spot.
Speaker 2: I might give you. I might give you four fifty
Speaker 2: four seventy five with a single ply or double ply.
Speaker 1: Suit, but just just just with just a mail Yeah,
Speaker 1: matter of fact, maybe maybe with a suit.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm not sleeping. I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 5: Joe hows I post my videos, you know, doing one
Speaker 5: twenty one fifties on the Dumbells.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
Speaker 5: When I get back to Miami on Sunday, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: make sure Monday gym session I'm gonna do.
Speaker 4: Legs, which is normally the upper body day.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make sure I put full seventy five or
Speaker 5: five hundred on the rack and do one rep.
Speaker 4: So when we get on the.
Speaker 3: Show where you're gonna do it one squad, I do
Speaker 3: I do, I do too, I do all right, I
Speaker 3: do twos.
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna do no it do no barbell squad,
Speaker 2: not with no.
Speaker 4: I'm regular squad.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, don't care no herny that man.
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 2: Joe. Hey, you be walking around, you need like mine.
Speaker 4: I don't get hurt, Joe. I won't never get hurt Joe.
Speaker 3: So you boom you booby you booby Johnson on Friday
Speaker 3: night flight.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if that said, Joe, I don't
Speaker 5: goben good to me, especially when it comes to injury.
Speaker 4: Joe, I ain't really have sustain nothing.
Speaker 1: Well, don't get in ah, don't, don't be trying to squat. No, Hey,
Speaker 1: your squad, your heavy squad days, go in there, do
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Keep your five strong, keep your glues
Speaker 1: because hey, the more leg most of you have to eat,
Speaker 1: the longer you it's prove it long you gonna probably live.
Speaker 1: So take care of your leg, your bottom half. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be fired. You'll need the squads.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to show you on trying to show you.
Speaker 2: Don't you get up under the machine. I think they
Speaker 2: got belt squats, they got pendulum squats.
Speaker 1: Uh, they got other squad appleplatices that you don't need
Speaker 1: to put that bar bell on your damn back. You
Speaker 1: do dumb bell squats.
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to show you that I can do it,
Speaker 5: that's all. You'll never believe me unless you unless you
Speaker 5: have visual evidence. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: No, I ain't gonna believe you did. And y'all got
Speaker 1: fake weight. We got too many people not doing fake weight.
Speaker 4: Where I gonna get fake weight from?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Easy?
Speaker 1: Michigan beat Alabama. The Wolverines had to boast overall play
Speaker 1: on the floor. Yet Yaksel linden Board, who did it
Speaker 1: all tonight? Finishing your three shot? Uh three assists shot
Speaker 1: for triple double. He had twenty three points twelve rebounds.
Speaker 1: Michigan was the more efficient than Alabama from three point range,
Speaker 1: connecting on thirteen or twenty seven attempts.
Speaker 2: Alabama. Hey, Alabama held on this look that could uh
Speaker 2: feel y'all? JR. LeBaron Fiel y'all did he was? Hey,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Game change. You need guys who can get to get
Speaker 3: get to that chicken ojoe, who can get to that
Speaker 3: who got a bag?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 3: Man we need ive you a score. Yeah, perfectly, we
Speaker 3: need you to We need you to get some buckets.
Speaker 3: The rest of us we can do the dirty word.
Speaker 3: One boat got to come with it. He needed one
Speaker 3: more guy because Michigan had too many guys. They got
Speaker 3: thirty three points, they missing twenty, so he needed what
Speaker 3: he needed another time. You know, they missing twenty points
Speaker 3: a game, you know. Oh yeah, yeah, I forgot.
Speaker 4: I mean, he hurt.
Speaker 2: Your guy tried to be cross.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if they had him, they definitely they probably
Speaker 3: would have really had a chance.
Speaker 2: They definitely had a chance. Yeah, but I ain't no,
Speaker 2: I ain't no feel y'all was not that nice. You know.
Speaker 2: You you see Clinton, you saw I see highlights of him.
Speaker 4: And stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Now he could Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a chance to watch Alabama play a
Speaker 3: few times because they in the SEC, obviously playing against
Speaker 3: my razor Backs. So they got some guys who can
Speaker 3: go who you know, and they got some some tough,
Speaker 3: gritty guys too.
Speaker 2: They got some tough gritty guys, so they they they're
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: You know, people look at Alabama and people just think
Speaker 1: Alabama football. But Alabama used to have back what you're
Speaker 1: talking about I mean you know they had or Wellreewell.
Speaker 4: With Alabama.
Speaker 2: Of them they had with Alabama.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that and they had Gerald Wallace I played with
Speaker 1: before and then that was before your time. They had
Speaker 1: Bodily hurt. They had Enos Wattley. Oh they had him.
Speaker 2: Guy, they have some dogs and some boy raised down
Speaker 2: down deep in the South and mac a prid to
Speaker 2: him getting hurt, and Tonio.
Speaker 1: Mcdie, I'm playing mcdion, I'm talking about you talking about sixteen.
Speaker 2: And can leave the building.
Speaker 3: He was like that old Joe I'm talking about like
Speaker 3: that headtown. That boy, that boy gonna fly. That boy
Speaker 3: gonna fly before we hurt that knee. Oh he was
Speaker 3: he because I was in I was in Denver when
Speaker 3: he got yeah, yeah, yeah, I was at uh. Brian
Speaker 3: Steals came there, Lafonse o'della's.
Speaker 1: I was there when Jalen Rose got there, all of them,
Speaker 1: the Ken Bab mctumble, all of them, Rodney Rogers, melow
Speaker 1: so so hey, mcdiah's.
Speaker 2: Oh Lord, have mercy man. Before he hurt that knee,
Speaker 2: he was something to deal with. He want nothing to
Speaker 2: play with, Yo, Joe. He was like that.
Speaker 3: But Obama has some sad yeah, they normally keep They
Speaker 3: normally keep some hoopers. So they they basketball team. Really
Speaker 3: they may not obviously, you know, we know what the
Speaker 3: football side with the football program does basketball wise, they
Speaker 3: rarely ever slouches.
Speaker 2: Now they normally keep some some pretty good guys over there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 4: I think Alabama football that overshadowed. They so got the.
Speaker 2: It does it does.
Speaker 1: It's just like Michigan football. Michigan has some players, come back,
Speaker 1: players come out. Don't sleep on Michigan Bathroot. Yeah, Michigan
Speaker 1: that's a football school.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean people just talk about the Fab five, but
Speaker 1: a man, when they had Glenn Rice and Meals and
Speaker 1: all those guys.
Speaker 2: They yeah, now they have some guys. They have some guys,
Speaker 2: hey speak.
Speaker 1: But the number one seed so far other than Florida advanced,
Speaker 1: who is Michigan play next?
Speaker 2: Hey? You see you see tenant over? Oh they played Tennessee.
Speaker 3: You see Michigan got a lot of juniors and seniors
Speaker 3: too are Yeah. Hey, they they got experienced that they
Speaker 3: that they are banking on. But they got guys playing well.
Speaker 3: The one thing that I noticed about their bigs man,
Speaker 3: they can pass. I'm gonna tell y'all something man in
Speaker 3: today's game. Yeah, you got any young hoopers is out
Speaker 3: there listening, chat y'all, y'all hear me out man having
Speaker 3: a great i Q for the game, knowing how to pass,
Speaker 3: knowing how to play the right way. That'll get you
Speaker 3: a long way, bro, Michigan got some guys on Dolgi.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about them back dough passes. When you got
Speaker 3: them guys playing over aggressive, Yeah, sitting picking rolls for
Speaker 3: you bigs, and they can play make They take a
Speaker 3: lot of pressure off your guards for guys who really
Speaker 3: can't get by the man like that, right, right, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You got different ways to
Speaker 3: get open, to exploit the game and manipulate it in
Speaker 3: so many different ways when you're big as versatile like that.
Speaker 2: That's why Yoki is so special.
Speaker 1: Man. Look at Yoki. Yeah, oh you see what they have?
Speaker 1: He you saw now what he had thirty three? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well thirty three, fourteen to twelve. Yo, Hey, he playing
Speaker 1: in our face right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I know that, right, that man playing in our face.
Speaker 3: Yeah we hey, y'all'll think he don't hear the chatters
Speaker 3: about who should be MVP.
Speaker 2: He always gonna be in it. But the man is
Speaker 2: a triple dub for sure. I think you know what
Speaker 2: it is. Joe, give me a guy that has that.
Speaker 1: Have IQ be a football, basketball, baseball, because a lot
Speaker 1: of times, oh yo, we played with guys dude robotic.
Speaker 1: You say, hey, bro, this right ten to twelve. Well,
Speaker 1: the guys standing right there, you go run behind dumb. Dumb,
Speaker 1: don't run behind him. The quarterback ain't gonna throw you
Speaker 1: the damn ball. You run behind the dB, cut in
Speaker 1: front of him. Man, you know what I saw, bro, Hey,
Speaker 1: IQ making he boy son. I hate to tell you this,
Speaker 1: but if dynamite brains.
Speaker 2: Come on.
Speaker 5: And Joe, the better the IQ, especially when it comes
Speaker 5: to the game of football. Obviously, I'm sure basketball is
Speaker 5: the same way where you can see what's gonna happen
Speaker 5: before it happens, or knowing what's going to happen actually
Speaker 5: before it happens, to be two steps ahead of everybody
Speaker 5: else at times. At times I could I could just
Speaker 5: speak from me playing receiver.
Speaker 2: Joke.
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm always two or three steps ahead of the
Speaker 5: person in front of me, two and three ahead of
Speaker 5: the safety because I understand what you have to do
Speaker 5: and I know where you're gonna be so understanding how
Speaker 5: to manipulate what's in front of me and give the
Speaker 5: illusion that I'm doing something that I'm really not gonna
Speaker 5: do so I can get the spot I need to
Speaker 5: get to.
Speaker 4: As fans, Hell, I understand it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I think, Yes, I think you may. I think you
Speaker 3: may even have to have that in basketball more than
Speaker 3: you do in football, especially if you got the ball
Speaker 3: and because well, because the floor if things happen with
Speaker 3: understand floor spacing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest key, specially the young guys
Speaker 2: who really don't know how to play the game.
Speaker 3: You know, they don't understand floor spacing and getting deep corner,
Speaker 3: getting out your man way. You know, you got a
Speaker 3: guy operating, you're standing right next to him.
Speaker 2: Cut. You know, you have a lot of these kids
Speaker 2: gotta learned because they're all.
Speaker 3: Growing up with the ball in their hand, and when
Speaker 3: they don't have it in their hand, they just look
Speaker 3: like statues out there.
Speaker 2: They don't know what they happen to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, Uncle Joe, you know what they
Speaker 5: always say when it comes to sports, the game, especially
Speaker 5: once you get to the highest level, the game is
Speaker 5: ninety it's only ten percent physical middle. Because so now
Speaker 5: it all comes to how much you know up here?
Speaker 5: How can you see the game and see things before
Speaker 5: they actually happen, or having a plan if playing they
Speaker 5: don't go right? How fast can you can you can
Speaker 5: you reenact what happened with plan B?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Being able to the fly?
Speaker 2: Ye?
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's.
Speaker 1: That's what makes me so upset. Ojo is that? And
Speaker 1: we talk about this all the time. I said, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: he got help to the inside. Why would he get
Speaker 1: beat outside when he knows he got help inside? If
Speaker 1: you got help outside, why would you get beat inside?
Speaker 2: That's what kills me.
Speaker 1: You see the guy you see that safety coming down.
Speaker 1: If you see the safety coming down, what do you
Speaker 1: think the man on top of your head gonna do?
Speaker 1: He going inside the safety's coming down because.
Speaker 2: Now he has outside contained? Bro, how you get beat
Speaker 2: on that man? I ain't what you mean? You didn't know?
Speaker 2: Did you watch film? They didn't onna film ten times?
Speaker 2: But every time?
Speaker 1: But kill me your phone right quick. Let me see
Speaker 1: how many phone numbers you got in the last the
Speaker 1: last last five days.
Speaker 2: You got that on him? Now?
Speaker 1: But you don't rememb any damn play man, see that, Joe, Joe.
Speaker 1: That's why I couldn't coach man. It drove me crazy
Speaker 1: that we go over stuff and they show up on film.
Speaker 1: They're gonna give you this look. It's just like spags.
Speaker 1: We already know if fag get you, if if if
Speaker 1: Fags feel.
Speaker 2: Threatened, he's coming with me.
Speaker 4: You know that is coming.
Speaker 1: Why is it in a situation that we've gone over
Speaker 1: and over and over and over you.
Speaker 2: At it out. I know I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 2: Boy man. You know it's sharp. It ain't okay, It
Speaker 2: is not okay. Stop telling it ain't Yeah, damn like bro,
Speaker 2: how and you mean to tell me? So? Let me
Speaker 2: get this straight.
Speaker 1: You can't remember one damn play but you quickly tell
Speaker 1: me I got thirteen.
Speaker 2: S A T. I gotta, I gotta, I got a
Speaker 2: thirty on this a C T.
Speaker 1: I can't tell who took me ten for you? Your
Speaker 1: sat must have been just shaped? What what if this
Speaker 1: is a square, a rectangle, a circle? Because I ain't
Speaker 1: nowhere in hell you can't remember this, but you got
Speaker 1: a four thirteen, fourteen hundred.
Speaker 2: There sayt shit. That's that's why I just I just
Speaker 2: don't have the patience. I just I don't. I try.
Speaker 1: I just don't because if I can get it, and
Speaker 1: I know when I got there, I didn't know nothing.
Speaker 1: I ain't know nothing about no over, no wonder, I
Speaker 1: didn't know but no coverage. That ain't no no two.
Speaker 1: I ain't no no one. I ain't no no six,
Speaker 1: ain't no quarters, ain't no seven, I ain't no eight,
Speaker 1: I ain't no nothing. And for me to pick it
Speaker 1: up and to be able to do flourish, ain't it?
Speaker 2: Lord have mercy? I get mad every time I think
Speaker 2: about somebody that helped up of coverage.
Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, Joe, ain't had no choice but to get it. Joe,
Speaker 4: I had no choice.
Speaker 2: Ain't none of us had a choice.
Speaker 4: Joey I talked to too. I talked too much ship
Speaker 4: not to get it.
Speaker 2: Joe, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I had to be on top of the game.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, because if you don't talk people out
Speaker 1: there game you you talking? You worried about me, You
Speaker 1: got the flat here, you carried me up the scene?
Speaker 1: Yeah nothing today, your black hass want to be in
Speaker 1: the flat?
Speaker 2: Why you worried about me?
Speaker 1: The scene? But you They would rather, they would rather
Speaker 1: shut you down on your blowing assignment, saying you ain't
Speaker 1: catching no pasts as opposed you got the flat you
Speaker 1: got them. Yeah, I just man, I been thinking about stuff.
Speaker 1: Had Lord have mercy, I said, Lord, you could have.
Speaker 1: I said, I wouldn't mind Lord if you took a
Speaker 1: little bit of the talent and gave me more, because.
Speaker 2: He gave me all talent. No patience.
Speaker 4: You know, I can see you.
Speaker 5: I can still see you coaching for some reason, even
Speaker 5: though a Joe, even though he say I don't have
Speaker 5: the patience for it, but I understand that what he
Speaker 5: could do, especially with his structure, discipline, when the plan
Speaker 5: whatever sport it may be, whether it's football, whether it's basketball.
Speaker 5: But being that he knows both really well, I can
Speaker 5: see coach, specially at the highest level.
Speaker 4: You get somebody like that in the building, Man, stop.
Speaker 1: Playing because it's hard, Oh Joe. I mean it's hard
Speaker 1: to develop this level of discipline if you're not already disciplined. No,
Speaker 1: that's what you got, That's what that's got. I mean
Speaker 1: you're like, I mean, it's just like it's obsessive. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's a I don't know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I want somebody as disciplined as I was, Joe, because
Speaker 1: it ain't healthy. And the thing is is that it
Speaker 1: drives you crazy. Because everything my grandfather had to be right,
Speaker 1: and so I always try to do everything because there
Speaker 1: ain't no if he didn't like if you, it wasn't
Speaker 1: no good job I be. I remember he told me
Speaker 1: and my brother what he gave us. He gave told
Speaker 1: me of my brother to watch the truck. He gave
Speaker 1: us a dollar. No, he gave us two dollars. Gave
Speaker 1: us like three fifty. I got a dollar because I
Speaker 1: just watched them. Tis my brother was in charge of
Speaker 1: watching the truck. The body, dried it out, and do
Speaker 1: all that other stuff.
Speaker 2: We will go in the house. We run the cows. Papa, Papa.
Speaker 2: We done. He come out there and look at it.
Speaker 2: He looked at me. He's being spike and standing side
Speaker 2: by side. He looked at the truck. He looked at
Speaker 2: me and spaking. He looked at the truck, He looked
Speaker 2: at job. He said, uh, anything is better than nothing.
Speaker 2: But you two fellas real close to I looked. I
Speaker 2: looked at it.
Speaker 1: I loved with that, though I thought we should have
Speaker 1: got you. Oh, Joe, I thought we should have got
Speaker 1: Hey that y'all ain't Hey, you know what I need you?
Speaker 1: I need my brothers. My sister don't like when we
Speaker 1: tell the story. But that joke was hard.
Speaker 2: He was hard.
Speaker 1: There was there was there was, There was no excuses.
Speaker 1: He didn't he didn't tolerate excuses.
Speaker 2: He did not damn either get it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, and I remember I've been spaking, smaking,
Speaker 1: he being smaking walking up he late, we're real close.
Speaker 2: To me what he said? So hey, hey, listen what
Speaker 2: he said? So I could I couldn't. I couldn't. I
Speaker 2: couldn't do it. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: It took a lot because you know, when you have kids,
Speaker 1: you have to develop a certain I'm talking about patience
Speaker 1: to agree because like like wet in the bed. They
Speaker 1: gave you to you about two years old, maybe two
Speaker 1: and a half. Three, boy, if you was four years old,
Speaker 1: let alone five six, they teasing, teasing boy, bartiy Porter
Speaker 1: shut down on your ass? May Porter go shut down
Speaker 1: on your ass? Oh hey, don't know, like somebody like
Speaker 1: you know, kids have problem? Uh where they you know,
Speaker 1: they wet the bed. It's a lot of things like
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff like you had, but they
Speaker 1: beat that, they did all that, you all all those
Speaker 1: that what kids have now? Time about you know, he
Speaker 1: got a he got you know, hey listen, hey.
Speaker 4: Joe, Joe. Back in them days, you know it wasn't
Speaker 4: no ad a d.
Speaker 2: You were just stupid. That's it you you you stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they tell your ass. Guess what they tell your
Speaker 1: ass up And all of a sudden you're like, damn,
Speaker 1: I could do this homework so good? Four plus four
Speaker 1: ain't times for thirty two? Oh, I could do my
Speaker 1: homework boy with bardiy man. Shut down on your ass.
Speaker 2: I can read like boy, you know, a whipping saw,
Speaker 2: everything in the.
Speaker 4: Sud everything you got them? Hey you ain't Hey, where
Speaker 4: am I?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell this story? Were gonna go.
Speaker 1: My granny used to have a saying that like my
Speaker 1: aunt's would come in the house and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't speak because my grandfather was bigger that you
Speaker 1: couldn't walk in this house speak. But you know how
Speaker 1: they I mean they teenage girls, you know, they might
Speaker 1: be on this cycle or whatever, and they walk in
Speaker 1: the house and then and it wouldn't say anything to him.
Speaker 1: My grandfather said, is there's something on your mind?
Speaker 2: You want to know? No, sir, but.
Speaker 1: Hey, and look at yae. I'm telling you, y'all didn't
Speaker 1: give my brother boy didn't play that. All that coming
Speaker 1: in the house and all that sucking your teeth and
Speaker 1: slamming doors. Now when you walk into the house, it's yes, sir,
Speaker 1: it's hey, uh, good good morning, good morning, good afternoon,
Speaker 1: good night.
Speaker 2: Blow ever case. But don't you walk in the man houses?
Speaker 2: What hey?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Hey, y'all.
Speaker 3: When I was in elementary, bro were still still getting paddles.
Speaker 3: You get paddled, Yeah, we have, we had. I was
Speaker 3: in high school, you could get paddle. I know when
Speaker 3: I was in elementary, you can get a paddle. I
Speaker 3: went it off at one time, Miss Goshen, but she
Speaker 3: gave me. She hit me three times with that paddle.
Speaker 2: Joke. One time. One time, that's all it took. Three times.
Speaker 2: She hit me three times with that paddle. Boy, Hey,
Speaker 2: he never again? Three boy? Did y'all got up live? Man?
Speaker 1: I remember my homeboy told the teacher her breath thako deserved.
Speaker 2: I ain't her brother.
Speaker 5: Hold on hold on now, so he got thirty five
Speaker 5: lists for the teacher. I know he got something when
Speaker 5: he got home.
Speaker 2: Nah, they hey, I was I was just surprised. He
Speaker 2: he he lasted long as school.
Speaker 1: But as long as skip you in the military, you know,
Speaker 1: skipping and he skipped the military got you.
Speaker 2: No, I mean once you get to a certain age.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't really expect.
Speaker 1: I mean if a guy missing fifteen twenty thirty days
Speaker 1: and the second, third, fourth and fifth grade, as soon
Speaker 1: as you get big enough, yeah, I mean we rolled,
Speaker 1: we ride by, they rolling dice. So I like, he
Speaker 1: ain't they ain't come if you rolling dice and say
Speaker 1: the thirty in the morning, what's the chance you coming
Speaker 1: to school?
Speaker 2: Joe, what's the chance on it? Ain't? It ain't none.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait the boy huss up there it is tennes
Speaker 1: CP Iowa State seventy six sixty two. The Balls pulled
Speaker 1: away in the second half because of the superior size, physicality, toughness,
Speaker 1: as our State seemed to crack without start forward Josh Jefferson,
Speaker 1: Rick Barnes and the Balls are back to their third
Speaker 1: consecutive Eligue eight will have a chance to reach the
Speaker 1: Final four for the first time in team Wow history. Wow,
Speaker 1: I am happy. For Tennessee SEC Blood another team. Yep,
Speaker 1: they got some young guys. They got the freshman that
Speaker 1: Mint who will be a lot of repick this year, Ojo.
Speaker 1: But the rest of these guys are juniors, seniors, they
Speaker 1: got to I think they got another freshman or two
Speaker 1: coming off the bench. But for the most part they
Speaker 1: got They got the upperclassmen doing the dirty work while
Speaker 1: the young guys you know, doing all the scoring.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And this was surprising to me. It was surprising because
Speaker 3: I will led by two guards as a senior. You know,
Speaker 3: obviously I thought both of them played well. But Tennessee
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 2: Bro. They they brewed, They got some bruises under their basket. Man,
Speaker 2: they got out. They rebounding. I will stayed by twenty one.
Speaker 1: You get out rebounded by that, you I'm surprised to
Speaker 1: score one more lopsided to think about it, if you
Speaker 1: get out rebounded by twenty one.
Speaker 2: They had sixteen offensive reals s the one percent from
Speaker 2: the field, So I mean, got some good matchups. So
Speaker 2: I guess it's Michigan and Tennessee this now. Hey, we're here, now,
Speaker 2: we're here now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you should see you should see who when
Speaker 5: it comes down to them brackets.
Speaker 4: You know who in first now right?
Speaker 2: Who you got? Who you got? Winning? Oho?
Speaker 4: You know who in first right now right?
Speaker 2: Who he got? Oh yo oh oh.
Speaker 5: First right, y'all making all them joke talk about I'm
Speaker 5: picking mascots.
Speaker 2: And here you did? You are you did? Listen?
Speaker 5: Listen, listen who is in first right now? And let
Speaker 5: me tell you gonna win the whole the marsh madness bracket?
Speaker 2: Who gonna win it? What do you mean?
Speaker 4: Who gonna win? I was pulling up the red in
Speaker 4: the beginning. Huh, come on, now.
Speaker 2: Who you picked? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yah, yeah, held on and he still got my feet up.
Speaker 1: He still got Duke in it. He still got aarons
Speaker 1: On in it. He got Michigan, but he had Virginia
Speaker 1: to beat Michigan. His bottom half bracket gone, his busted.
Speaker 1: The South bracket is busted. But he still got Duke. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's still He got Duke in Arizona in the championship
Speaker 1: to play for the national championship. He got Arizona to
Speaker 1: win it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Arizona looked good. I ain't gonna lie to toe you.
Speaker 2: I beat which woman? Which woman? To say?
Speaker 3: Joe, But you only picked them because you just looked
Speaker 3: at a wildcat versus a hog.
Speaker 2: That's what I know. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I ain't got nothing, Joe ain't got nothing to do
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is men. You don't even know nothing. You
Speaker 2: don't know nothing about these team.
Speaker 3: You know the mascot, and you're like, that's what I'm
Speaker 3: going with, and it's it's worked out well for you.
Speaker 2: I ain't hating on you. I'm just saying, yeah, I
Speaker 2: feel I feel, but I see you know what.
Speaker 1: Next year, I got to take this thing. I gotta
Speaker 1: put some more time in it. Brother watching basketball, because.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, these boys out here getting down.
Speaker 1: I will take a look almost instead of spending ten minutes,
Speaker 1: thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: Huh. Okay, Okay, I say it's still five minutes five,
Speaker 2: but that's okay. I will get it