1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,640 Speaker 1: What's happened? 2 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome into a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access, 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: a no practice day off, well for the players of them, 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: for them, but not for myself, John Harris or for 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: the Voice of Texans, Mark vandam Mare. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: We keep you rolling. 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: We are going at all times, and we'll have a 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: little bit of McClain reloaded. Andrew Beck I talked to 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: on Tuesday. 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: He just wanted to talk to us. 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: My first time talking to him, caught and ice passing 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: that two minute situation. 13 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: I did very good on the mic too. I like 14 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: I like guys that can be good on the mic, 15 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: very comfortable. So we have Andrew Beck. And if you 16 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: missed it this morning, I did linebacker's position breakdown. 17 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you missed it, I did defensive backs the 18 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 1: other day. 19 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: So you definite want to hear that because there's a 20 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: lot of defensive backs in this camp. And I don't 21 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: even know that I should say this, dotcoum would they're 22 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: healthy right now? They're healthy right now? 23 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Be at you. We're very very mad at me going 24 00:00:59,120 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: against it. 25 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: But I prefaced it with right now, so I didn't say, oh, 26 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: they're gonna be healthy. It's just they're healthy right now, 27 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: and that's always a good thing. So we had a 28 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: lot of defensive cks to break down, so it'd be 29 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: a little bit later in the show. 30 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: But Mark, we saw this around. 31 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: Lunchtime today that the NFL is considering adopting the XFL's 32 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: kickoff style as a possible replacement for the kickoff format. Now, 33 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: I know it looks a little bit, it looks wacky 34 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: in some sense. Now, if you remember, the rule they 35 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: put in this year was that if you as a 36 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: returner were outside of the end zone, you were in 37 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: the end zone, you were in the field of play, 38 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: and you caught the ball way, the fair catch ball 39 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: will go to twenty five. 40 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: That's the rule the colleges have. Now we've talked to 41 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: a few returners. 42 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: We talked to Steven Simsy's like, uh, no way, I'm 43 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: returning that thing. 44 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: If I get a chance, I'm returning that thing. 45 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: So there have been changes to the kickoff year after 46 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: year after year. Now it's a consideration of this one. 47 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: I have thoughts, but I want to get your gut 48 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: reaction to it. Mark, If the NFL actually did adopt 49 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: the XFL style, Now, if you don't know what it 50 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: is the players. The kicker is at the thirty yard line. 51 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: The players are set up at the thirty and the 52 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 2: thirty five. There's only five yards in between. So there's 53 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: a kicker way back kicking from where he normally would 54 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: nobody around him, nobody around him, ten guys at the 55 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: thirty five that are covering to kick. 56 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: The receiving thirty five other end of the field. 57 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: The other end of the field, and that at the 58 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: receiving thirty is the receiving team. So it's one guy kicker, 59 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: ten ten one. So it's got some symmetry to it 60 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: from that perspective. Now, I've seen the XFL do some 61 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: really different things. There are some teams that treat this 62 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: almost like an offensive play, like they're running different blocking schemes. 63 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: They should to treat it like another just offensive. 64 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: So it's not just Okay, these ten are gonna whang, 65 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: you know, ten gladiators going against ten gladiators. There's some 66 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: actual different things that they're doing with this return, which 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: makes it kind of exciting. I don't know if the 68 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: NFL wants to have more returns, I don't know, but 69 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: this could be a way to do it, do it safely. 70 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 71 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: I've always kind of liked this XFL thing, and it 72 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: wasn't until I actually saw it at saw it in 73 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: you know, in games. I thought, oh, I kind of 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: like this because I think there's some things you can 75 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: do strategically and. 76 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: Run it almost like an offensive play. 77 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: You know, you can pull guys around and do some 78 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: different things that would be kind of fun. You've got 79 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: reaction to the x of the NFL potentially adopting this. 80 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: I got reaction is do it. 81 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: Do it absolutely, because right now you have the fair 82 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: catch role, which is terrible. It's awful. It's got to 83 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: go away. It's a terrible way to play football. It's 84 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: not really football when you have a fair cash possibility 85 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: at to say, the ten fifteen yard line. I got 86 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: a kickoff and then you get to advance the ball 87 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: to the twenty five yard line. I'd be fine with 88 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: the fair catch, Johnny, if you get the ball where 89 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: you fair caught it. Okay, that's that's all right, that's 90 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: all right, But no one would do it not I'm 91 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: okay with that though. You can't advance the ball after 92 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 3: a fair catch. 93 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: That stinks. 94 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: So to me, Look, you can't do it on a. 95 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: Punt, right, correct, You can't, all right make a fair catch. 96 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: That's right. 97 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: If I'm at the fifty and I'm punting to you, 98 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: what am I trying to do? 99 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: Pin you deep? Right? 100 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: Imagine if you could bring it out to the twenty 101 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: or the twenty five, catch it at the one yard, yeah, 102 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 3: catch it at. 103 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: The one you're right up to twenty. 104 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: Well, that's stupid, So therefore this is stupid too. 105 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 3: And then people say, well, it enables you to keep 106 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: the kickoff mark because we don't want to abolish the kickoff. 107 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: But enter XFL rule, which is not as pretty. 108 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: As full blown NFL kickoff. 109 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: You return the ball football, but it's better than the 110 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: fair catch thing, and it's better than not having a kickoff. 111 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: I just feel like you have to have a kickoff. 112 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: What are we going to say? 113 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 4: What time the game starts? 114 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: Right? 115 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: How are we going to say it? 116 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 117 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: What times kick off? I mean what times first snap? 118 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 3: It doesn't sound as good our first snap, PM, No, 119 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: it doesn't sound good. You need kickoff. We've grown up 120 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: this way. We need the kickoff. Now, those of you 121 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: saying listening and saying you're really going to adopt an 122 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: XFL rule, the NFL has a history of adopted. 123 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: Rules from these other leagues. 124 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: They got the red flag challenge from the USFL, which 125 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: used it in the first incarnation in the early eighties. 126 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: They got the two point conversion back obviously college but ages. 127 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: Ago, the NFL used it. 128 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: The AFL used it, but the NFL got it back 129 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: because the XFL, I mean, the USFL was using it 130 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: in the early days and it was cool and they 131 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: finally got it back. So there is history and precedent 132 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: of being influenced by these leagues. 133 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: Go ahead and do it. 134 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I don't get that whole thing of, well, 135 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: this other league does it, so you know we're in 136 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: the NFL. 137 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: We can't do it if we didn't come up with rule. 138 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 2: They've been doing it for a long time, like you said, 139 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: And I watched his kickoff and I've been on kickoff 140 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: team before. 141 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: Many many many years ago. 142 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: This is before we need to kickoff stuff, and this 143 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: is back in the nineties, and it's a scary proposition. 144 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: I'll say that you're flying down on kickoff and you're like, 145 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go down and hammer this returner or whatever, 146 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: and the full scale collisions that you can have and 147 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: I was the contained guy, so it wasn't as if 148 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: I was the wedgebuster. But I remember we were playing 149 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: Dartmouth and I was I essentially would swap positions, so 150 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 2: I was the number two guy, so I would swap 151 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: with the outside guy. And the outside guy that I 152 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 2: swapped with, he was going straight to the ball and 153 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: Stephan Ford or he hit this kid from Dartmouth, and 154 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: I mean it was like from me to. 155 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: You away and I'm like, oh my god. 156 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: I mean I heard that hit as I was making 157 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: the tackle on the kickoff and everybody was freaking out. 158 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: Was like, oh, they're happy that made the tackle. No, no, no, 159 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: they were happy because that dude from Dartmouth. 160 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: Got blown up. And I heard it as I'm making 161 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: the tackle. It was like, it's too much. It's shaw 162 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: rattling at that point. 163 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: So if you can get the exit, then with five 164 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: yards difference, you're still gonna get some hits. 165 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: Oh you get It's still gonna be physical, right, But 166 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: I do think there can be some I think there 167 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: could be some strategy to it. 168 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you gave that the Frank Ross and said okay, 169 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: drop some strategy to this, I think you could have 170 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: some strategic returns, so you still have the strategic angle 171 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: of the return and the return game involved in the game, 172 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: but you've made it safer. 173 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: So they're at the thirty and the thirty five right 174 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: the brigade, you're almost always guaranteed to have a return 175 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: past the thirty in this deal. I don't know what 176 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: the analytics are, the analytics the stats on the special 177 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: teams for the USFL YE or the XFL. Rather, boy, 178 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: I'm getting these two flipped. But they both exist now 179 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: at the same time in real time at spring football. 180 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: But I think it should be at the twenty five 181 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: and the thirty. I could make a case for that. 182 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: Move it back a little bit, Yeah, move it back 183 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: a little bit. I could see that five yard zone, 184 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: or maybe even a three yard zone, but a five 185 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: yard zone. 186 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: Make it like that. 187 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: They're not allowed to move until the receiver the kick 188 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: return man, catches the football. They can't start blocking before that. 189 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: I think you're right, because I mean, you just think 190 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: of some of the quarterbacks that are in this league. 191 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: If there's something at thirty or thirty five, it's one 192 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: throw over the middle, they're kicking a field goal exactly. 193 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: That's terrible. 194 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: Imagine late in the game, right, Oh, we get to 195 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: kick off to Patrick Mahomes now and he's gonna get 196 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: the ball at the thirty five, and he's one throw 197 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: to Kelsey away from kicking a game winning field goal. 198 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: And obviously you can't kick it out of bounds. 199 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 4: No, can't do it. Can kick it in the end zone. 200 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you're kicking the end zone. It's 201 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: a touch back, or you go back to the twenty five. 202 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: So you're back, you know, kind of the square one 203 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: at that point. 204 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: But they're kicking from the thirty right, kick from the 205 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: thirty five and make it the. 206 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: Twenty five and the thirty as far as where they line. 207 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: Up, and just hit a high pooch mortar kick. See 208 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: what that does. 209 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: And if you can't move until he catches it, until 210 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: the returner catches it, then boy, and it gets. 211 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: I understand why they're looking at it. 212 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: Probably right. 213 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: Moving it back to the twenty five thirty is probably right. 214 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: I think the fair catch rule is outrageous. It's out 215 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: that ageous. 216 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: Are adopt that. I didn't like that they adopted this. 217 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: I mean I get the whole you know, not wanting 218 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: to you know, kind of reducing the return in some sense. 219 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: But I think you can bring the return back. I 220 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: think the XFL showed you can bring the return back 221 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: and keep it safe. 222 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: Yes, keep it safe or as safe as possible now 223 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 3: and keep it in the game. 224 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: Let me know when the punt is safe, because the 225 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: punt is just as dangerous. 226 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but at least you have to wait till you 227 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 3: till the guy has possession, right. 228 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, before you hit him, So you gotta you're right there. 229 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: There aren't as many full scale especially because you're taking 230 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: You've taken out the peelback blocks. You've taken that out, 231 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: So from that standpoint, you're probably probably in a little 232 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 2: bit better shape. Who's in good shape right now is 233 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: Houston Astros. Mark and I start our converse with the 234 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: general talking about what the Astros did yesterday, and man 235 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: was it sexy. 236 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: The Verlander return. 237 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: Great days in Houston sports where people return, Well, this 238 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 3: is certainly one of them, and maybe the all timer 239 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: if they can get the results they're looking for. But 240 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: we're thinking about Tamiko and some of the other players 241 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: who've come back here. But having Verlander come back for 242 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: the Astros such a huge story in such a big 243 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: boost for their cause. 244 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 5: General, Yeah, everybody's so fat fired up. It reminds me 245 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 5: of when the Texans drafted Stroudman, when Nick Cassario traded 246 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 5: up to get Will Anderson Jr. And the fans at 247 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 5: Miller Outdoor Theater went crazy. Of course they went crazy. 248 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 5: Yesterday admitted made partament from Baldez. So I was a 249 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 5: no hitter and I was thinking in it on a 250 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 5: situation that did not involve playoff, playoff game or playoff clincher. 251 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 5: I've never seen a day euston sports not to day 252 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 5: you had two such cataclasingly convinced in the same day. 253 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 5: Hopefully it'll pay off to the Astros. Hopefully what Texans 254 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 5: have done with hiring Da Makeo and drafting Stroud and 255 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 5: Anderson will pay off the way they wanted to. 256 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: General, I think you're right still, but where does the 257 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: Mike Scott pitching a no hitter clinching the an NL 258 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 2: West at that time in eighty six, Where does that stand? 259 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: Because I think with these the thing about today or yesterday, 260 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: you had a trade and you had a no hitter, 261 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: so you kind of you needed two things. You had 262 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: a no hitter and you clinched the Vision. I still 263 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: say yesterday was probably the better day. But what do 264 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: you say about eighty six Mike Scott throwing that no 265 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: hitter to clinch the Vision? 266 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 5: John, I'm not talking about anything playoff related, because playoffs 267 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 5: always bigger, and Mike Scott clinch in the playoffs with 268 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 5: a no hitter was the greatest regular season moment an astro. 269 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 5: It's history. You know, everybody in the city celebrated. We 270 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 5: were just mesmerized. They weren't supposed to win. I think 271 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 5: it was uh Tom Seaver said they're gonna They're gonna 272 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 5: collapse like a balloon. Can't remember the exact term. And 273 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 5: then to win it the way Mike Scott wanted it was, 274 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 5: it was extraordinary. 275 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely general. 276 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: What did you see yesterday that you liked and what 277 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: did you see that needs work with the Houston Texans. 278 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: In day six of training camp. 279 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 5: Nico Collins looked good. He made it, I mean made 280 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 5: a long catch kind of catch as he made last 281 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 5: year in training camp, and everybody gets so pumped up 282 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 5: about him, and then he got hurt again and so 283 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 5: he needs to stay healthy. A very very important season 284 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 5: for Collins because he's shown he can make big plays. 285 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 5: He's got great size, leaping ability, speed. He just needs 286 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 5: to stay healthy. And the defense is ahead of the offense. 287 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 5: I think anytime you put in a new offense with 288 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,359 Speaker 5: a first time play caller like Bobby Slowe, and especially 289 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 5: because it's such a huge change from what you were doing, 290 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 5: blocking schemes and running the way you want everything, and 291 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 5: I think the defense would just be ahead Mentally. You 292 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 5: guys know, when you're confident and comfortable with what you're doing, 293 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 5: you're gonna play faster. You know, watching Christian Harris fly 294 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 5: around out there after this time last year he was hurt. 295 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 5: That bows very well Toatoa and Harris. I think at 296 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 5: some point it'll be starting together. And I think they're 297 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 5: gonna they're fast. They're both a little under two thirty, 298 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 5: I guess, and so I can't wait to see those 299 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 5: two guys get together. But I am really really pumped 300 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 5: about watching the young guys, especially all those guys that 301 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 5: can sell in the midg riots as defense, because they 302 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 5: are indeed young, fast, they can cover, they can get 303 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 5: to the ball in it. 304 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of people that don't 305 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: like talking about rookies at that point. At this point, 306 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: but we do. I feel like when I write my 307 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: Harris hits, I feel like I am writing more about 308 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: rookies than I'm writing about any other group on this 309 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: particular field. What have you seen from this rookie class 310 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: or what should I say? What do you think about 311 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: the volume of rookie players that have made big plays 312 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: or done good things in this camp thus far? 313 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 5: Now, people are so excited about this rookie glass starting 314 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 5: with Stroud and Anderson, the way Nick Cassario traded up 315 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: to yet Anderson and the eyes right a defensive prospect 316 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 5: in the draft and a lot of experts had him 317 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 5: as a number one overall prospect over Bryce Young and 318 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 5: seeing them and then Tank Dale. I'm writing a column 319 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 5: for sports Radio six ten dot com on Tankdale and 320 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 5: what he can bring to the offense. Dana Holguson was 321 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 5: out there yesterday and I interviewed him after practice about 322 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 5: what he thinks about Tank. Of course, he loves the 323 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 5: guy and it's such he said, it's such a great 324 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: fit because Tank loves Houston and everybody loves Tank. It 325 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 5: goes beyond football, he said, He's his personality is in 326 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 5: faxious and I can't wait to see him in the 327 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: joint practices and the preseason games. Don't know if Frank 328 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 5: Ross is going to use him on returns. He'll get 329 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 5: some chances. Frank could feel more comfortable going with Desmond 330 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 5: King again, but he's got such big play capability. Want 331 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: to see how long it takes two Struggs to start 332 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 5: at center. You know, they traded back into the second 333 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 5: round for a reason. They like him. It's going to 334 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 5: be a lot of rookies kept on this team. There's 335 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 5: going to be tougher cuts to me any time since 336 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 5: Nick Casario got here. I think there's gonna be tough 337 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 5: cuts in the offensive line. You know, Charlie Hack he's out, 338 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 5: he's on pup. Will you have to start the season 339 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 5: on pup? Who's gonna be the third offensive tackle? They 340 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 5: got a lot of guys can play center and guard, 341 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 5: and then I think linebacker is gonna be tough. Veteran's 342 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 5: gonna get cut. Can't wait to see when they make 343 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 5: that cut all at one time again, which I like 344 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: better than doing it. It is all and once, isn't it. 345 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 5: Aren't they making the cuts at the same time. I 346 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 5: believe they are, and they're gonna have some difficult decisions 347 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 5: to make, and that's good. And some of the guys 348 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 5: they cut are gonna end up with other teams. 349 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, after the last week of the preseason games, it'll 350 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: be August twenty seventh when the Texans conclude their preseason 351 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: against the Saints on the road. And by the way, general, 352 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: the Saints have changed their practice schedule because of extreme heat. 353 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: They're going to go inside for some of it, move 354 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 3: it around, and extreme heat. Today in New Orleans the 355 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: high is ninety seven today, ninety five, Tomorrow, ninety eight, Friday, 356 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 3: ninety eight Saturday. Now in New Orleans they get more humidity, Johnny, 357 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: that's true. They are farther east, more humidity. I always 358 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: say this about Miami as well, more humidity. It's hard 359 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: to believe, but it does exist. But when you ratchet 360 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 3: up the heat and humidity here, it's special. So your 361 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: thoughts on that, because this factor is into the Texans, 362 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: who in a couple of weeks are going to be 363 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: practicing against the New Orleans Saints. 364 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: Well, three weeks on the road. 365 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 5: Well they're probably at ten o'clock. And so as you 366 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 5: guys know from watching the Texans, they stretch, they warm up, 367 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 5: it's thirty minutes before or forty five before they get serious, 368 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 5: So why are they not practicdent at eight in the morning? 369 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 5: Texans went eight last year. I can't remember what to 370 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 5: did with David Kelly, but last year it was eight 371 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 5: o'clock with Levy's nine o'clock with Jamaiko. 372 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: You know. 373 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 5: I like the timing. I like the way they're doing it, 374 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 5: but I think the Saints should have just moved up practice. 375 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish the Texas would move up practice. 376 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: I think Drew Dlerty texted us at some point and 377 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: was like he was walking out there. 378 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: I think it was like seven thirty or so. He's like, 379 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: why are we not practicing? Now? 380 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: Well, that was yesterday though there was cloud cover. But 381 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: some days when there's no cloud cover, the sun's out, 382 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: there's no wind. I think it's almost hotter or worse 383 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: until the wind picks up at about nine nine thirty. 384 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: That's my take and I'm sticking to it. 385 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, stick to it, Okay, General, what's been the what's 386 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: been the best position group thus far at camp? And 387 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: which position group do you think, as they would say, 388 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: needs a little bit of improvement. 389 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 5: It's hard to tell about the lineman of course, because 390 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 5: they can't go all out not but you know what 391 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 5: out of people, they can't knock the snot out of 392 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 5: the running backs and stuff like that. So I think 393 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 5: the secondary, to me, the position that would be a 394 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 5: huge surprise if their changes is safety. They got two starters, 395 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 5: they got two backups, they got talent at corner and 396 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 5: with a lot of veterans coming back, so I don't 397 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 5: see a lot of competition there. I think in the 398 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 5: defensive line, we know the top four ends are going 399 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 5: to be Will Anderson Junior, Jerry Hughes, John Grenard, and 400 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 5: Dylan Norton. They're not doing anything with a fourth round pick, 401 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 5: so there's a four ends not all going to be active, 402 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 5: but so figuring out who's going to play next to 403 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 5: Malik Collins. You know, Hasaan Ridgeway was brought here because 404 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 5: he's good against the run. Demiko had him, Demiko likes it. 405 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 5: Shelon Rankins was brought here because he's good against the run, 406 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 5: but he's behind because he missed off season program on 407 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 5: purpose and then because he was on the non football 408 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 5: injury early camp. But he's he should be really good 409 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 5: against the run. So I think defensive tackle top I'm 410 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 5: a s Bok of the fourth Roy Lopez. There's a 411 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 5: lot of guys there who are going to compete, and 412 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 5: it's I'm guessing all that will be about the run 413 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 5: because they don't need those guys to be pass rushers 414 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 5: and linebacker. I think linebacker is going to be good. 415 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 5: The position needs help the most. John is tight ends. 416 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 5: They got Dalton Schultzer and I don't know what the 417 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: heggs the matter with teag inc Toriano. He's a hurt 418 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 5: been hurt obviously, you had some kind of surgery and 419 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 5: the offseason Brevin Jordan's in danger not making his team. 420 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 5: They're signing guys off the street right now. Tight End 421 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 5: is a position that needs the most help. 422 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: Colts are having air issues with that as well. Texans 423 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: signed Dalton Keene, by the way, so another Dalton on 424 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 3: the team. Can't have enough Dalton's on your team. So 425 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 3: let's do this. We talk to you and John Harris 426 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: asked a question about whether Jonathan Taylor would be in 427 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: uniform when the Texas played the Colts September seventeenth. 428 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 4: Let me word this another way. 429 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 3: When you google Jonathan Taylor, it's nothing but tree stories 430 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 3: popping up, and I got to imagine a lot of 431 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 3: this is because writers know that if you write about 432 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor and trade its clickbait. 433 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 4: But what do you think here? Is there any fire 434 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: to this smoke? 435 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: General? As the days progress. 436 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 5: I saw a story today, Chiefs might be interested, Well, 437 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 5: everybody might be interested. Now the fact is you're gonna 438 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 5: have the same problem. He wants a new contract. Reports 439 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 5: all that he wants sixteen million a year like Christian 440 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: McCaffery got. Also, he's coming off an injury that cost 441 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 5: him a lot of games, and the next team that 442 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 5: acquires him can franchise him twice if it doesn't work out. 443 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 5: So you're just in eriting a problem now. He makes 444 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 5: I think he makes like for me in this share. 445 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 5: If you popped up and gave him a deal for 446 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 5: ten for one year, I'm sure he like you opinion franchising. 447 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 5: So I'm thinking he's going to do everything he can 448 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 5: to get traded. But I'm gonna say still there for 449 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 5: the second game because they have nobody who and take 450 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 5: his place, And unless they could do a back for 451 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 5: a back trade, that would is the only way it 452 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 5: would make sense. As we talked about yesterday. It is 453 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 5: a text book case of how you do not handle 454 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 5: a disgruntled player. 455 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a mess in Indianapolis, and I hope 456 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: it continues that way and Jonathan Taylor does get shipped out, 457 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: that would help. Then again, if he's there week two, 458 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: gotta put your big boy pants on and go shut 459 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 2: him down. Haven't done it in the five matchups that 460 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 2: you've seen him twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, for 461 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: only one time, have not shut him down. It's time 462 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: to do that if he is indeed with the Colts 463 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: this fall all right, Each and every morning at nine 464 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 2: o'clock during Texas Training Camp Live, I break down a position. 465 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: A couple days ago, I did defensive backs. It's the 466 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: biggest group. It took me a while, but you'll get 467 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 2: something out of it. Next right here in Texas All Access, 468 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: each and every day on Sports Radio six ten in 469 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: the Odyssey app during Texans Training Camp Live, your host 470 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 2: John Harris Football and it's a sideline reporter breakdown each 471 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: every position, straight off the dome. 472 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: Give me the player, I give you the thoughts. 473 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: The day I did defensive backs, it's pretty good and 474 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: pretty thorough. 475 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: Take a listen, let's break down the defensive backs with 476 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: John Harris off the top of his head, no notes, 477 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 3: This is Johnny on the fly, and I will read 478 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 3: you the names, and you tell me what you think. 479 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go in an order of I think. 480 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go in order of numbers, and there's no 481 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: lower number than zero. Well, we could go negative, but 482 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: they don't have those in the NFL on the jerseys. 483 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: So zero would be des King's new number in his 484 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: seventh year now former All Pro as a return guy, 485 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: the corner nickel. 486 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: He can do a lot for. 487 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: You, just does everything, and he's just such a good 488 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: football player. 489 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: I thought about this the other day. 490 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 2: You see guys in their careers, you have ten twelve 491 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: year careers, and you know, the first three or four 492 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: years it's it's kind of good, and then there's maybe 493 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of fallof and but then you see 494 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 2: kind of this resurgence and whether it's just understanding of 495 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: the game a little bit more, just you're in the 496 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: right spot right time, that kind of thing. I think 497 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: all that's playing into dead is because the last couple 498 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 2: of years before he got here, you know, the Titans 499 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: and Chargers, at the end, it was just yeah, But 500 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: then he comes here and he's really kind of find 501 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: a role, and that is play outside, play, inside, play safety. 502 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: They need him to return punts. 503 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: He's gotten better even I think in this defense he 504 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: is always around the football. 505 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: And where he can play, what he can do. 506 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 2: I'm really curious to see how much they use him 507 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: in a blitz game because I think he's a really 508 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: good blitzer, very savvy, and I think that's gonna help Desmond. 509 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: King's the kind of guy you've got to have on 510 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: the field. And if you play a lot of nickel, 511 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 2: which you kind of a four towo five anyways for 512 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 2: the most part. I mean, if you want to get 513 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: technically or no longer than four, you know, you talk 514 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: about a four man surface because you're really not a 515 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: four to three anymore. 516 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: It's really a four to five to be honest. 517 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: They played a lot of bass yesterday in pads, but 518 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: that's gonna get a lot of time on the field 519 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: at nickel that that should be an official starting position. 520 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: I think he is tremendous stepisodes well. 521 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: Most teams when they release the depth charts now have 522 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: a nickel position listed, and sometimes they still have three 523 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: linebackers at a four to three situation, so you'll have. 524 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: Twelve starters if you will whatever. 525 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: All right, ten year veteran was acquired in the offseason 526 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: former Demico Ryan's pupil in San Francisco, part of his 527 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: defense there. I know Dimico coach linebackers, but he was 528 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: eventually the coordinator for the last couple of years, and 529 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: Jimmy Ward was a big part of that defense obviously, 530 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 3: and that was a big part of this defense ten years. 531 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: You would not be able to figure that out. Watching him. 532 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 2: The way he moves, how smooth he is, how explosive 533 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: he is for a ten year vet is mind blowing. 534 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: I mentioned this before one in five, five and one. 535 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: At those two safety spots, they're absolutely massive and they 536 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: play very very well together and off of one another. 537 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: I think Warden Peacher are gonna be as fun to 538 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: watch as any safety combination we've had here. 539 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: Mark Well, I love that Taviier Thomas is still on 540 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: this team. Fifth year at a fairist state and he 541 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 3: and des king from Detroit, Michigan. I can't wait till 542 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 3: leave Mo Taylor on He's gonna be out here at 543 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: camp on Friday because he's also a Detroit guy. 544 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: But top two years ago, voted. 545 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: Or whatever Pro Football Focus whatever this is worth said 546 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: he was one of the best nickel corners in the league. 547 00:25:59,240 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: What do you think of Tavier? 548 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, a lot like Dez, a lot like his 549 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: buddy from Detroit. 550 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: Play played a little bit differently. 551 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: I think I think Tabs a little bit bigger, and 552 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: I think Dez is probably a little bit more natural 553 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: cover guy. But I've always found this seemingly about guys 554 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: from Detroit. 555 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: There's something about the way they play. 556 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: Mark they just understand ball, like they're playing it all 557 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: the time, Like they just understand. 558 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: It's like a lot of kids when they grow. 559 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: Up in South Florida and they play, they're playing for 560 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 2: the time they'refore they were in pads and you know, 561 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: walking out of the womb. 562 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: Seemingly, that's the way Tab is. 563 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: He just knows ball, and he's a tremendous special teams 564 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 2: player and unselfish. So if it's nickel, if it's safety, 565 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: if it's special teams, he impacts his team. 566 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: In a lot of different ways, and he'll find a 567 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: way to do it every game. 568 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: You spend some time on him in the first hour. 569 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: Jalen Petrie second year, it's the truth. 570 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's gonna be a foundation piece alongside 571 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: Will Anderson for a long time in his defense, and 572 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: he's gotten better his recognition skills, his instincts, whether he's 573 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 2: playing back or down. I mean, he's I just I 574 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: can't say enough good things about Jalen Petrie. 575 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: You know who else can do that? Baylor people. 576 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: I went to our Big twelve media days and I said, 577 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: I'm with the Tech. I got Texans out of my mouth. 578 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, oh, we love Jalen everybody. 579 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: It's like Dave Randa. I mean you could just see 580 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: his eyes light up. 581 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: And you know a lot of times college coaches, you 582 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: know they have a four player and I'm like, no, 583 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: I don't really want to talk. 584 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: About that guy or whatever. Then maybe didn't end right 585 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: or whatever. He could he would have talked to me 586 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: for twenty five minutes about Jayalen. He was. He was tremendous. 587 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 2: So that's the kind of gravitas he he has at 588 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: Baylor and also here in his hometown. 589 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: Does Shaq Griffin qualify as a sneaky hot offseason act? 590 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: Absolute? 591 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I don't know how Nick pull that off. 592 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: But man, you watch him ball. He's been all over 593 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: the place breaking up passes. And my new saying has been, 594 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 2: when you think you have enough, you need just a 595 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: little bit more. And going into the off season, now 596 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: you got stinging, you got Nelson. You know, I think 597 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: we got enough there? No, no, no, you go and get more. 598 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: You go and get Shack Griffin, You bring him in, 599 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: and now you've got a three man rotation there at 600 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 2: corner went winning if you need it, with Shaq Griffin, 601 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 2: Steven Nelson and Derek Stingley. I think Shak has been 602 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: on his game. He's got to stay healthy. Every game 603 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 2: that he's been healthy for in the league. He started 604 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: in the league, he started last year. He got an 605 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: injury in Jacksonville. They kind of moved on to Trey 606 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: Herndon and Tyson Campbell and that allowed him to be available. 607 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: I was I was shocked he was not picked up. 608 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: Good long, good size, long, wiry, tough. 609 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: I like Shack. I love the fact he's here. 610 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 3: All right, you mentioned him. We know he doesn't like vests. 611 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: He's a farmer. Steven Nelson, I think he's been as 612 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 3: good out here as anybody. He has competed. 613 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 2: I see him all the time, just working on little things, 614 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: just a little steps. You know, they'll be doing a 615 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: walk through drill over here and for a corner and 616 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: a walk through drill. Like say, the call is a 617 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: blitz and it's man coverage, and you're like and then 618 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: walk through. You're just like, all right, I know I 619 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: got him, all right, whatever, you know. 620 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: I got cat coverage. You got that cat, I got 621 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: that cat. Well, okay, I got this guy. 622 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: I watched him and the ball snapped and he's working 623 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: on his feet, you know, like he's kind of using it. 624 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: He's mimicking things. 625 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: So instead of standing there and just kind of you know, 626 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: looking at the helicopter's going by, he's like focused. 627 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: On those things. 628 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: I thought he had a great year last year. I 629 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: feel like he was, you know, wildly underrated. You know, 630 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: the whole contract stuff this offseason. I mean, look, he 631 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: serves money. The guy's played well, but you know, you 632 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: gotta take you for what it is. He's thirty years old. 633 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: If he continues to play this well, he's gonna get 634 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: a contract from somewhere and hopefully he continues to do that. 635 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: But he's been good out here. As good out here 636 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 3: as anybody's been. We heard his interview yesterday. Eric Murray 637 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: eighth year out of Minnesota. Got him from the Cleveland 638 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: Browns COVID year and he's gonna make this team. 639 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: I think expectations. 640 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: Changed obviously for Eric, Like you know, he got a 641 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: lot of money when he first got here, so it 642 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: was like, oh, he must Eric's kind of found that 643 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: good role. You know, he's got he gets good safety reps. 644 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: He's actual in special teams. He has always been a 645 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: cover guy because that was his you know, he's a 646 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: corner in college at Minnesota. But I think he's the 647 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: type of guy you have to have around because the 648 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: way that Ward and Petrie play, those guys are gonna 649 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: be banged up a little bit or they're gonna need 650 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: a rest at some point. You know last year that happened. 651 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: Jalen didn't play every single play last year because you 652 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: could go to Eric Murray, you could go to m J. Stewart, 653 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: and that's safe Jalen, So he can end up playing 654 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: seventeen games. 655 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: Reinforcements are here, all. 656 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: Right, Let's get to the next guy here, graylen Arnold. 657 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: I'll get to Stingley in a moment grayl and Arnold 658 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 3: because another safety who can play special teams. 659 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, general sick of Bears. 660 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: I loved I've always been a fan of Grayling, all 661 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: way back to his days at Baylor. 662 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: And you know, a little bit shorter. 663 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: He's probably five ten, maybe he shade under five to ten, 664 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: five to nine, but can run smart. 665 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: He's a Baylor Bears, so you gotta love him. But 666 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: I love him with special teams. Last year he was 667 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: he got. 668 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: Hurt at the kind of the beginning of camp, right 669 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season, and that kind of 670 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: kind of shortcut his momentum because he really didn't get 671 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: much time in the preseason games if I remember correctly. 672 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: So if he's healthy and now he's at safety, in safety, 673 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: I think only so, I think that helps him. He 674 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: gives it a chance for his instincts, his ball skills 675 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: really to kind of come into play. I think Grayland's 676 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: a sneaky hot guy to watch on this roster. 677 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: All right, second year out of LSU. Derek Stingley Junior 678 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: pick six yesterday. What about his progress? 679 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's what it is. 680 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: It's progress, and I think Firs staying as it's just 681 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: easy to say this, but he needs time. 682 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: He just needs time on a field. He needs reps. 683 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: That's where the back half of last year wasn't wasn't great. 684 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: He could have used those reps in every situation because 685 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: you think about the receivers he would have faced. 686 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: He may have locked up on Kelsey at some point 687 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. 688 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: You know, he would have locked up on Noah Brown 689 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: or Ceedee Lamb with the Dallas Cowboys. You know, all 690 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: those reps that you dn't have missing out on are 691 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: just it's hard to make up for that. So you 692 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: gotta be out of practice every day. You gotta be 693 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: healthy every single day and stack these days together. And 694 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: you're going against a variety of receivers big Nico, Noah Brown, 695 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: a little bit bigger, thicker, I mean, tanked Dell, smaller, quicker, shiftier, 696 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: Xavier Hutchinson, kind of a combination all the above. So 697 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: you've seen a variety of receivers. I think that's gonna 698 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: help him down the road. And he's getting comfortable in 699 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: this defense. But I think for him just making a 700 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: few plays kind of getting that confidence back. I don't 701 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: think Sting ever lacks for confidence, but there's difference in having, 702 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: you know, your confidence waning being you know, confident all 703 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: the time. I think he's pretty confident all the time. 704 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: But your confidence can take a hit. I think it 705 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: did a little bit last year, but I think he 706 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: bounces back. I think this is the year that people 707 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: are expecting for him to have. 708 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 3: All right, He's been the personal protector, really reliable reserve 709 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: player at safety. M J. 710 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: Stewart loves playing football. 711 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: When I interviewed him last week, that was I said, man, 712 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: why do you why and why do you take such 713 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: pride and specialties? Man, A lot of guys just take 714 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: that period off or just kind of you know, out 715 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: picking flowers or whatever, and you like, that's you. 716 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: He's like, I love playing balls. I mean that's thinking 717 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: of the six year old and keyball. Yep. But that's 718 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: what he does. 719 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: He takes pride in playing special teams and doing whatever 720 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: he can. And what do you do In the last 721 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: half of last year in the game at Dallas he 722 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: tips that pass that Treymont intercepts. You know, he made 723 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: plays for this defense as he got more comfortable, and 724 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: I think that's what the same role he'll be in 725 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: this year. 726 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: And then almost say that he's happy without. 727 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: I mean, he'd love to start and play every single play, 728 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: but he knows, he knows who his role is and 729 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: he's gonna go do it the best that he can 730 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: to make this team number one in special teams again 731 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: and make defense that much better when he comes into 732 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: game next to Petrio or Jimmy Ward. 733 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: We saw this guy break up a pass on a 734 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: fade route in the end zone that Stroud through a 735 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 3: very nice throw, but he made a good play. 736 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 4: That's Kadar Holeman, who we like as a reserve. 737 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. 738 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, corner. You can't have enough depth, and he's 739 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: got size strength. He's got a big chip on his 740 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: shoulder from New Jersey and he's talked about that it 741 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: was a walk on when he got to college. 742 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: I think you see that in his game. I mean 743 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: that fade rut you're talking about. 744 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: CJ tried to throwing up to Xavier Hutchinson and Zaber 745 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: did a great job. 746 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: Going up and getting it. 747 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: But Holman's technique I'm playing at was perfect, and coaches 748 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: came over like, hey man, it was great, it was great. 749 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: It was just you know, you. 750 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: Don't get an opportunity too often to make a play 751 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: on a fade like that, because in practice sometimes hard 752 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: to imitate and mimic. And I don't think they've worked 753 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: on that down on a goal line in one on ones. 754 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: So Kadar's out there just using the technique he's been 755 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: taught over the years and then. 756 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: Applied it perfectly. It made a play. 757 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: So big physical guy gonna get a lot of reps 758 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: in these joint practice. Is gonna get a lot of 759 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: reps for the preseason. And he's played some. He played 760 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: with the Packers. He made an impact as a rookie 761 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: in the second year guys, So he's got playing experience. 762 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: If it's got it, if you got to go to him, 763 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: because the corners are banged up, I feel very confident 764 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: he can step in and do some things, all right. 765 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 3: Rookie seventh round draft choice Brandon Hill from pitt fun 766 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: to watch in college? 767 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: Is he fun to watch out here? 768 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been fun to watch. He was not in 769 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 2: pads yesterday. I don't know, a little dinged up or 770 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: whatever it might be. But I just you know, for rookies, 771 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: I hate that. You know, Jared Patterson's go through that 772 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: in the offensive line. But you know, you know he 773 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 2: missed a day. It feels like as a rookie he 774 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 2: missed for five days, and I know he wants to 775 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: get back. You know, the one thing I took out 776 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 2: of our conversation with Brandon is how much he loves ball. 777 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: He loves to hit, you know when he put the 778 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 2: pads on. You know, the guy's from the Popka floor. 779 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: I mean, those guys, they live for ball down and 780 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 2: that's hate in that city in particular. So I know 781 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: he hates not being available to be able to go 782 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: through practice, but hitter, physical, do whatever he's got to 783 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: for the team. Great team guy, patn Er, he loved 784 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: him at pitt So I think we'll love him in 785 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: due time here. I just hope that he's not set 786 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 2: back for a long time with all. 787 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: Right, we'll get through these next few guys quick. Dangelo Ross, 788 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 3: you and I interviewed him mini camp. 789 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, guy that like chip on his shoulder, just wants 790 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: to be around playing ball. Not the biggest guy in 791 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: the world, but he can move and he can make 792 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: a play in a ball. 793 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: His competitive ball skills are top notch. 794 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 3: Kobe Francis with the Francis On the back of the jersey. 795 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 3: They have names on the jerseys here at camp and 796 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: the number thirty eight. From a distance, I keep. 797 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 4: Seeing Vegas like PD Kobe Francis. 798 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: You know he's athletic. 799 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 2: He's probably a shade more athletic than Pete Fagans was. 800 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 2: Size good, size, can run. Just needs a lot more 801 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 2: reps and with the joint practices in the preseason games, 802 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 2: he's gonna get a lot of reps because Sting, Nelson 803 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: and Griffin probably not gonna get a ton. So that 804 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: means Dangelo Ross and Kobe Francis, Darius Phillips, this guy's 805 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 2: can all get reps in those games. That's all gonna help. 806 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 2: Whether they're here they're putting on film for some other team. 807 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, these guys are a third and fourth quarter preseason 808 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: game guys. Not that that's a bad thing. You can 809 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 3: make the team still. Tyreek g Lespie. 810 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 2: Hitter, special teams guy. When he was at Missouri, man 811 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: there was not a different color jersey. I didn't see 812 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: him hit, learned in safety, but special teams that's his 813 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: that's his bag, if you will. 814 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 4: Darius Phillips, he's been around for a while. 815 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: He's been around for a while, and he showed it 816 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: the other day. Man. 817 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: He made a couple of great plays. He broke on 818 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: what was a potential pick six, he's dropped it. But 819 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 2: he had another breakup on a throw that was in 820 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: front of him where he had to transitionally break forward 821 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: on it and made a play. Darius Phillips been the 822 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: signings kind of off the radar of this offseason. Kind 823 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: of Darius Phillips, you know, was one of those guys 824 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 2: off the radar, like, man. 825 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: Wait, it's a good pickup. There's a really good pickup. 826 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: The ones that came in not right when the league 827 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: year started, but maybe a little bit later. Man, really 828 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 1: good pickups. 829 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: I think Darius Phllips is definitely a guy that compets 830 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 2: to that spot there is I have fun doing that 831 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 2: every single day. I all said fun talking to Andrew Beck. 832 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: He's next right here in Texans All Access. We all 833 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 2: follow a segment this edition of Texans All Access News 834 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 2: for the Texans. They have now signed two tight ends, 835 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: Dalton Keene formerly of the New England Patriots and Virginia Tech. 836 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: And they just signed Nick Vennett, former Ohio State Buckeye 837 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: tight end. He's a little bit more of the inline blocker, 838 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 2: but he still catches football. Keene is a little bit 839 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 2: more of your athletic move tight ends. So Keen and 840 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: Nick Vennett added to the tight ends roster. Now the 841 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 2: guy that's kind of the tight ended roster, kind of 842 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 2: the fullback roster, it's Andrew Beck. 843 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: I talked to him after practice yesterday. I mean, Andrew, I've. 844 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: Been asking everybody, it feels oppressive. Last fifteen minutes of practice. 845 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: It felt terrible. How you're making it through. 846 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 6: It's definitely testing the mental toughness. It's something you got 847 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 6: a building camp. I mean you know that. So it's, 848 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 6: you know, an added element. There's always gonna be adversity. 849 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 6: Now we just get to deal with the hate a 850 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 6: little bit too. 851 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. 852 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna ask you a really weird question, but 853 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: I want your most honest answer. 854 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: What position you play? 855 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 6: Yes, it depends on down distance of what coach Slow says. 856 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 6: And I think that's some of the things that makes 857 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 6: this offense fun. I mean, you've seen it looking at 858 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 6: what the Niner's been doing in the past couple of 859 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 6: years and the other coaches that we've pulled from different places. 860 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 6: That's what, like I said, makes this offense goes. We 861 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 6: can throw a bunch of different guys in a bunch 862 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 6: of different spots, and we're smart than to figure it out, 863 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 6: and they're good enough coaches to get. 864 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: Us in the right spot. Was that what made this 865 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: place attractive to you? 866 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you played college ball in the state, 867 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: But was it that that kind of made this attractive. 868 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: To you, that your versatility could be seen as a 869 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: relase that. Yeah. 870 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 6: Absolutely, the opportunity to do a bunch of things. You know, 871 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 6: that's what keeps guys around in this league for a 872 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 6: long comments. The more you can do. You know, you 873 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 6: can't wait to do this for a couple of years 874 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 6: and then go trying long snap. 875 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: For even longer. You know, it's all about the more 876 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: you can do. 877 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 6: And absolutely like to your point, it's what makes this 878 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 6: place attractive, and it's what it's gonna get a lot 879 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 6: of great players to want to be Houston Texans. 880 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: And that's what we want. Is John Weeks know about 881 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: your plan? 882 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 6: You know what I will say, Weeks has been nothing 883 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 6: but supportive of my plan because I have told him 884 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 6: it doesn't go into effect until he's done. 885 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 1: He's lost I just work here. Your your group. 886 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: Obviously some of that. You know, you're in the tight 887 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 2: end group. You're kind of the running back group too, 888 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: with the fullbacks, et cetera. You've had a few of 889 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 2: you kind of going down, so you're getting a lot 890 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 2: of different reps, you know, but some guys are getting 891 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 2: a look because they kind of opening things up for 892 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 2: you that you're getting a few more looks, maybe because 893 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: there aren't as many guys there. 894 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 6: It's, you know, part of camp is plugging in when 895 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 6: guys go down. That's the nature of it. I think 896 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 6: the big benefit for me anyways is it's not necessarily 897 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 6: things that I'll be doing in this season, but the 898 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 6: greater understanding we can get to the offense if I 899 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 6: can go out here and run it, you know, tight end, 900 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 6: or he can plug me in where a receiver's supposed 901 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 6: to be. He's not gonna ask me to do that 902 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 6: stuff on Sunday. We're gonna go out there and win games. 903 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 6: But at least I'll know conceptually where everybody's gonna be, 904 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 6: and all that's gonna do is help the guys on 905 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 6: the field. 906 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: How do you think it's going though? Far Andrew? 907 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 2: You know, the offense. I know today probably wasn't the 908 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: best day. I mean, obviously gets hotted near the end 909 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: and it gets kind of tough on both sides for execution, 910 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 2: but just overall everybody learning the offense, mental errors. 911 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 1: How's that kind of going? You think? For the overall 912 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: the offense. 913 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 6: I think we were right on part with where we 914 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 6: need to be. You know, there hasn't been any mistakes 915 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 6: or we've just thrown our hands up and we're like, 916 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 6: all right, don't know how we're gonna get that fixed. 917 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 6: You know, it's all been things that we kind of 918 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 6: expected and things that are absolutely coachable, and the coach 919 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 6: of the staff's done an incredible job, and you know, 920 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 6: I think the players have responded really well. We had 921 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 6: a couple of things from yesterday the first day and 922 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 6: pads that we had to come out here and correct today, 923 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 6: and I think we got a number of them taken 924 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 6: care of, which is always always exactly what you want 925 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 6: to see, and I think the staff is pretty excited 926 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 6: about that. So there'll be things from today's so we 927 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 6: can digest on the off day and then and work 928 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 6: on whenever our next practice day is whatever day like that. 929 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad you brought that up, because an off day, 930 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 2: I know there's a football player you want't stay in 931 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 2: a rhythm, but you need that rest. 932 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: Your body needs to rest. So ay, how good is 933 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: the off day? 934 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 2: And b what is it that you want to get 935 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: accomplished on the off day and not just sitting around 936 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 2: watching cartoons to eat cereal? 937 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: What is it you want to get done on that 938 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: off day? Right? 939 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 6: So I guess your first point. You know, I think 940 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 6: off days have become critical for us. You know it 941 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 6: gives guys the opportunity to push that step harder in 942 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 6: our three practice blocks because you know that that there's 943 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 6: quote a light at the end of the tunnel. 944 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 1: You know you can. 945 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 6: I can push as hard as I can today because 946 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 6: I know tomorrow I have the ability to come in 947 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 6: get my body right. And for me, and I know 948 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 6: a lot of guys, you know, it's it's like you said, 949 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 6: it's not just sitting on the couch anymore. It's you 950 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 6: got to come in and do everything you can to 951 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 6: get your body feeling like it's the first day of 952 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 6: camp again. And on top of that, every day is 953 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 6: like a cumulative final, right, So we install and then 954 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 6: you're tested on it, and it keeps building and keeps building. 955 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 6: So off days are a nice day to take a breath. 956 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 6: We're not getting an install that day. Go back and 957 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 6: make sure you have every single thing ironed out, and 958 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 6: then preview what's coming. And I think we've we've done 959 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 6: a good job of the veterans showing the younger guys. Hey, 960 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 6: exactly your point. You can't just sit around, you know, 961 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 6: you guys have to use this day because it's it's 962 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 6: not gonna slow down. 963 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: We're not gonna take a break. Andrew, I appreciate you time, man, 964 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Yeah, absolutely, thank you so much. 965 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 2: Fun guy to interview, fun player to watch. Ton of versatility. 966 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: And I know that could be a bad word people 967 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 2: used to hear, oh the v word versatility, Yet it's 968 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 2: not a bad thing when a guy is good at 969 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 2: multiple things. We used to use that word, and by say, 970 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 2: we use that word loosely, but that word was used 971 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 2: a lot to describe people that played other positions but 972 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: weren't good at them. And so that's not what versatility 973 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 2: actually is. Andrew Beck is versatility and that is a 974 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 2: good thing. And unfortunately it's a bad thing that we 975 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 2: got in the show right here, but a big thanks 976 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: to Andrew Beck, to John McClain, to Mark vandermir to 977 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 2: everybody out there. Listen, you guys are the best. We'll 978 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 2: see tomorrow eight am. Texas Training Camp Live, eight point 979 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: thirty GMNT Cassario on with us too, Tune in. 980 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: We'll see then, everybody, and as always, go Texans.