1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:21,548 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,028 --> 00:00:24,828 Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper. 4 00:00:26,268 --> 00:00:29,148 Speaker 3: Well, Merry Christmas to you, and how about we start 5 00:00:29,228 --> 00:00:33,068 Speaker 3: week seventeen with a present from Santa Claus. Yes, hopefully 6 00:00:33,108 --> 00:00:35,388 Speaker 3: you got some wonderful gifts under your tree and in 7 00:00:35,428 --> 00:00:39,868 Speaker 3: your stockings. But we also have three games on the slate, Sherry, Isaac, 8 00:00:39,948 --> 00:00:40,188 Speaker 3: Mike G. 9 00:00:40,388 --> 00:00:42,628 Speaker 4: Kyle Brant here with you. It's going to be an 10 00:00:42,668 --> 00:00:43,468 Speaker 4: incredible day. 11 00:00:43,548 --> 00:00:45,708 Speaker 3: I hope everyone gets to spend some time with family, 12 00:00:45,788 --> 00:00:49,148 Speaker 3: friends and loved ones, and of course getting to watch 13 00:00:49,188 --> 00:00:52,628 Speaker 3: some football. Kyle, It's just we We couldn't have picked 14 00:00:52,708 --> 00:00:55,068 Speaker 3: or had a better day to just start Christmas. 15 00:00:55,308 --> 00:00:58,228 Speaker 5: Hell know, it's wonderful time. Mike, garyl follow We had 16 00:00:58,228 --> 00:01:00,228 Speaker 5: a little cameo by one of your daughters today. How 17 00:01:00,308 --> 00:01:02,468 Speaker 5: we do on How's Light? How's Christmas? Talk to us? 18 00:01:02,668 --> 00:01:05,028 Speaker 6: The egg nug hit a little hard last night, so 19 00:01:05,468 --> 00:01:06,708 Speaker 6: just don't expect. 20 00:01:06,988 --> 00:01:08,468 Speaker 2: Don't expect any witty banner. 21 00:01:08,508 --> 00:01:12,388 Speaker 6: I do appreciate the world's easiest game of Where's Waldo? 22 00:01:12,468 --> 00:01:14,908 Speaker 2: Ever, though again there is I. 23 00:01:14,868 --> 00:01:16,748 Speaker 5: Got them, Isaac, How's life, buddy? 24 00:01:16,788 --> 00:01:18,668 Speaker 7: My Christmas It's unbelievable. 25 00:01:18,748 --> 00:01:21,228 Speaker 8: I even broke out this Notre Dame jersey had to 26 00:01:21,268 --> 00:01:23,988 Speaker 8: take off the plastic wrap off. This has not been 27 00:01:24,028 --> 00:01:26,988 Speaker 8: opened since my senior year. Got to rep the Notre 28 00:01:27,068 --> 00:01:29,868 Speaker 8: Dame Boys. And it's Christmas time, so got to rep 29 00:01:29,868 --> 00:01:31,028 Speaker 8: the great Christmas background. 30 00:01:31,028 --> 00:01:32,348 Speaker 7: Shout out to my in laws for that. 31 00:01:32,708 --> 00:01:35,548 Speaker 3: It looks beautiful, It's perfect those points set as we 32 00:01:35,668 --> 00:01:38,948 Speaker 3: have gifts. Where's Waldo slash Candy Canes, Mike Chie. We're 33 00:01:38,948 --> 00:01:40,868 Speaker 3: going to make this easy for you. You can just sit 34 00:01:40,948 --> 00:01:43,748 Speaker 3: on the couch and watch football because we have three 35 00:01:43,828 --> 00:01:47,548 Speaker 3: games coming your way today. First too on Netflix, that's 36 00:01:47,588 --> 00:01:51,588 Speaker 3: Commanders at Cowboys. Then you have Lines at Vikings and 37 00:01:51,668 --> 00:01:52,108 Speaker 3: you might be. 38 00:01:52,068 --> 00:01:55,828 Speaker 4: Thinking, where's Jamie, where's Mantai? Where's Seth freaking Rollins. 39 00:01:55,908 --> 00:01:58,228 Speaker 3: They are there in Minnesota hanging out. 40 00:01:58,388 --> 00:02:00,828 Speaker 4: Then you have the final game on Amazon Prime and. 41 00:02:00,748 --> 00:02:04,988 Speaker 3: That's where the Chiefs host the Broncos. But there is 42 00:02:05,068 --> 00:02:07,228 Speaker 3: some injury news we need to get to. It's not 43 00:02:07,388 --> 00:02:10,588 Speaker 3: just all you know, tinsel and Christmas presence. There might 44 00:02:10,628 --> 00:02:13,428 Speaker 3: be some hole in the stockings of some of these players. 45 00:02:13,468 --> 00:02:16,588 Speaker 3: And the news that RNFL network insider Ian Rappaport is 46 00:02:16,588 --> 00:02:19,588 Speaker 3: bringing to us. Good morning and Merry Christmas to you. 47 00:02:19,708 --> 00:02:22,468 Speaker 3: Is it gifts you're delivering or lumps of coal? 48 00:02:23,108 --> 00:02:23,388 Speaker 5: Uh? 49 00:02:23,428 --> 00:02:25,948 Speaker 9: You know that time of the year, mostly lumps of coal. 50 00:02:25,988 --> 00:02:28,028 Speaker 9: Mery Christmas to you guys as well. I want to 51 00:02:28,028 --> 00:02:30,668 Speaker 9: get to some of the injuries for today's games, not 52 00:02:30,748 --> 00:02:33,028 Speaker 9: all bad news. We'll start with Amanroz Saint Brown, the 53 00:02:33,028 --> 00:02:35,988 Speaker 9: star receiver for the Detroit Lions, who, as we learned 54 00:02:36,028 --> 00:02:39,068 Speaker 9: earlier in the season, basically never misses a game if 55 00:02:39,108 --> 00:02:41,188 Speaker 9: he could possibly walk, that's the situation he is. And 56 00:02:41,228 --> 00:02:43,628 Speaker 9: now he's been on the injury report limited this week 57 00:02:43,668 --> 00:02:46,588 Speaker 9: with a knee injury described more as irritation than anything 58 00:02:46,588 --> 00:02:49,668 Speaker 9: else by coach Dan Campbell. And when Amen Roz talked 59 00:02:49,708 --> 00:02:52,388 Speaker 9: to reporters in the locker room, what he has said 60 00:02:52,468 --> 00:02:55,188 Speaker 9: is basically what's going to happen, was that he expects 61 00:02:55,188 --> 00:02:57,588 Speaker 9: to be out there on the field. I would expect 62 00:02:57,588 --> 00:03:00,428 Speaker 9: to see a full go Amanroz Saint Brown against the 63 00:03:00,468 --> 00:03:04,268 Speaker 9: Minnesota Vikings today as the Lions hang on to their 64 00:03:04,388 --> 00:03:07,348 Speaker 9: playoff hopes, needing a win to do it. Mention, the 65 00:03:07,388 --> 00:03:10,468 Speaker 9: Washington Commanders also played today. They're going to be starting 66 00:03:10,908 --> 00:03:14,228 Speaker 9: not Jayden Daniels to starting quarterback, not Marcus Murriota, their 67 00:03:14,228 --> 00:03:16,508 Speaker 9: backup quarterback has played really well at times this year. 68 00:03:16,908 --> 00:03:20,868 Speaker 9: Josh Johnson their third string quarterback the off travel Josh 69 00:03:20,948 --> 00:03:24,508 Speaker 9: Johnson been on basically sixteen teams or something like that 70 00:03:24,548 --> 00:03:28,348 Speaker 9: in the NFL. Long tenured veteran. He makes a rare 71 00:03:28,428 --> 00:03:31,068 Speaker 9: start with Marcus Mariota banged up with a hand and 72 00:03:31,188 --> 00:03:34,388 Speaker 9: a quad injury. Jeff Drisco signed off the Arizona Cardinals 73 00:03:34,388 --> 00:03:37,308 Speaker 9: practice squad. He is going to be the backup quarterback. 74 00:03:37,348 --> 00:03:39,428 Speaker 9: So a little bit of a mass unit for the 75 00:03:39,548 --> 00:03:43,028 Speaker 9: Washington Commanders today and then for the Kansas City Chiefs 76 00:03:43,068 --> 00:03:45,748 Speaker 9: playing in the late game the Amazon game, they are 77 00:03:45,788 --> 00:03:47,388 Speaker 9: also a little bit of a mass unit. But they 78 00:03:47,388 --> 00:03:50,788 Speaker 9: did yesterday has put several of their key players, several 79 00:03:50,788 --> 00:03:54,268 Speaker 9: of their stars in injury reserve, including Rashi Rice. Really 80 00:03:54,348 --> 00:03:56,788 Speaker 9: was a bounce back season for Rice. Started off with 81 00:03:56,828 --> 00:04:00,148 Speaker 9: the knee injury, came back strong, re established himself as 82 00:04:00,228 --> 00:04:04,068 Speaker 9: a star in the NFL after the suspension. Now placed 83 00:04:04,108 --> 00:04:06,468 Speaker 9: on reserve with a concussion. And that was not all 84 00:04:06,508 --> 00:04:10,028 Speaker 9: Trend McDuffie. They're really good corner also on ir Taekwon 85 00:04:10,108 --> 00:04:14,028 Speaker 9: Thord and the receiver also on ir So, don't feel 86 00:04:14,028 --> 00:04:15,588 Speaker 9: bad if you have to look at a roster to 87 00:04:15,588 --> 00:04:17,868 Speaker 9: figure out who's playing for the Kennessey Chiefs today. 88 00:04:17,948 --> 00:04:20,628 Speaker 3: Man Prickley looking forward to Rashi Rice being back, but 89 00:04:20,668 --> 00:04:23,188 Speaker 3: certainly we know this Chiefs team is banged up as 90 00:04:23,188 --> 00:04:23,428 Speaker 3: it is. 91 00:04:23,468 --> 00:04:25,588 Speaker 4: Ian. We appreciate you, thank you so much. 92 00:04:25,628 --> 00:04:28,748 Speaker 3: Now, the Chief's defense, they have entered last week's game 93 00:04:28,868 --> 00:04:32,908 Speaker 3: as the NFL's stingiest eighth thin yards allowed, the Titans 94 00:04:32,988 --> 00:04:35,148 Speaker 3: rolling up a season high three hundred and seventy seven 95 00:04:35,228 --> 00:04:39,188 Speaker 3: yards of offense against them. So the fact that you know, 96 00:04:39,268 --> 00:04:42,428 Speaker 3: Chris Jones, one of these stalwart anchors on their defense, 97 00:04:42,588 --> 00:04:45,628 Speaker 3: just is still not happy with we didn't do a. 98 00:04:45,548 --> 00:04:47,388 Speaker 10: Really good job of stopping to run as we did 99 00:04:47,428 --> 00:04:49,788 Speaker 10: in the previous week. So we can hone in on it. 100 00:04:49,908 --> 00:04:53,628 Speaker 10: Coming up with dimmer Broco's division opponent, it's gonna be tough. 101 00:04:53,628 --> 00:04:55,548 Speaker 10: They like to run the ball, they like to play physical. 102 00:04:55,628 --> 00:04:57,708 Speaker 10: So this week going into film and we got up 103 00:04:57,708 --> 00:04:58,508 Speaker 10: out physicality. 104 00:04:58,788 --> 00:05:00,268 Speaker 6: Is this one of those situations where you're happy to 105 00:05:00,308 --> 00:05:01,788 Speaker 6: have a Thursday night game so you can get back 106 00:05:01,828 --> 00:05:03,308 Speaker 6: out there and get the bad taste out of your mouth. 107 00:05:03,348 --> 00:05:05,148 Speaker 11: I think that's a good, good way of putting it, 108 00:05:05,228 --> 00:05:10,148 Speaker 11: I definitely think, you know, it's it's better in this case. 109 00:05:10,348 --> 00:05:11,828 Speaker 11: You know, I always like to get to the game 110 00:05:11,868 --> 00:05:14,188 Speaker 11: as fast as possible after a game like that, and 111 00:05:14,308 --> 00:05:17,188 Speaker 11: so playing on Thursday, will you allow us to move 112 00:05:17,228 --> 00:05:21,068 Speaker 11: on and get to Thursday and allow us to you know, 113 00:05:21,468 --> 00:05:22,428 Speaker 11: get it back on track. 114 00:05:23,668 --> 00:05:25,508 Speaker 3: And they have that short week too, and just not 115 00:05:25,548 --> 00:05:27,988 Speaker 3: the fact that they need to flush that loss. So 116 00:05:28,068 --> 00:05:30,188 Speaker 3: the Broncos still have all that they want right in 117 00:05:30,188 --> 00:05:32,748 Speaker 3: front of them. They control their own destiny as they 118 00:05:32,788 --> 00:05:35,548 Speaker 3: head into Arrowhead tonight against as we heard from Ian, 119 00:05:35,708 --> 00:05:37,468 Speaker 3: you might need to look at a roster because they 120 00:05:37,508 --> 00:05:38,988 Speaker 3: have a banged up team on. 121 00:05:38,988 --> 00:05:40,188 Speaker 4: Both sides of the ball. 122 00:05:40,508 --> 00:05:42,788 Speaker 3: Isaac, I want to start with you, what is catching 123 00:05:42,788 --> 00:05:45,268 Speaker 3: your eye for this Broncos team and what else are 124 00:05:45,268 --> 00:05:48,268 Speaker 3: you looking to see that will reassure you as they 125 00:05:48,308 --> 00:05:49,668 Speaker 3: make their playoff bush. 126 00:05:49,788 --> 00:05:49,988 Speaker 7: Yeah. 127 00:05:49,988 --> 00:05:52,228 Speaker 8: Well, first off, I think the question that was asked 128 00:05:52,228 --> 00:05:56,068 Speaker 8: the bow next about the quick turnaround game Thursday, a 129 00:05:56,148 --> 00:05:58,628 Speaker 8: shorter week after a loss. That's such a good question 130 00:05:58,708 --> 00:06:00,988 Speaker 8: because that's exactly what they're thinking about immediately when they 131 00:06:01,028 --> 00:06:03,708 Speaker 8: went in that locker room. I guarantee you, just like 132 00:06:03,748 --> 00:06:06,108 Speaker 8: I did as a player. You cannot wait to get 133 00:06:06,148 --> 00:06:07,908 Speaker 8: back out if you lose and don't play like you 134 00:06:07,948 --> 00:06:10,508 Speaker 8: want to. But to answer your question, what am I 135 00:06:10,548 --> 00:06:12,948 Speaker 8: looking for, I'm looking for a team that's going to 136 00:06:12,988 --> 00:06:16,148 Speaker 8: eliminate self inflicted wounds. We know who bo Nicks is 137 00:06:16,148 --> 00:06:18,108 Speaker 8: going to be, we know who Sean Payton's going to be. 138 00:06:18,188 --> 00:06:20,508 Speaker 8: We know this is the best D line ever. I 139 00:06:20,548 --> 00:06:22,988 Speaker 8: mean it s the line's incredible. What we don't need 140 00:06:23,028 --> 00:06:26,588 Speaker 8: to have is misstackles. They had nine miss tackles last game. 141 00:06:26,908 --> 00:06:30,388 Speaker 8: Over one hundred yards worth of offense off of those 142 00:06:30,428 --> 00:06:33,828 Speaker 8: misplay or mistackles that the Jags had. 143 00:06:34,188 --> 00:06:35,668 Speaker 7: So you just don't want to have that. 144 00:06:35,708 --> 00:06:39,348 Speaker 8: You don't want turnovers, you don't want a bunch of penalties, 145 00:06:39,428 --> 00:06:41,028 Speaker 8: you don't want miss tackles. You want to be able 146 00:06:41,028 --> 00:06:43,788 Speaker 8: to play a clean brand of football going into the playoffs. 147 00:06:43,908 --> 00:06:45,508 Speaker 7: And that's exactly what they're going to need to do. 148 00:06:45,588 --> 00:06:46,188 Speaker 7: It needs to be. 149 00:06:46,188 --> 00:06:50,268 Speaker 8: Complimentary football all around, clean, do what you need to do, 150 00:06:50,708 --> 00:06:53,748 Speaker 8: make your don't mistackles. That's all we need and this 151 00:06:53,828 --> 00:06:56,028 Speaker 8: team's going to be completely fine moving forward. 152 00:06:56,068 --> 00:06:57,988 Speaker 7: I mean, best team in the NFL right now. 153 00:06:57,908 --> 00:07:01,028 Speaker 6: The Broncos right now, Isaac are tenth in the NFL 154 00:07:01,188 --> 00:07:04,388 Speaker 6: in offense, they are starting to move up the rankings there. 155 00:07:04,508 --> 00:07:06,588 Speaker 6: They have had over the last couple of games four 156 00:07:06,668 --> 00:07:09,068 Speaker 6: forty five, three ninety one, three fifty six, four to two. 157 00:07:09,188 --> 00:07:11,988 Speaker 6: They were lower ranked before the last couple of weeks. 158 00:07:11,988 --> 00:07:14,188 Speaker 6: And I remember looking at this Broncos team and I'm saying, 159 00:07:14,468 --> 00:07:16,828 Speaker 6: why doesn't this feel like a Sean Payton team to me? 160 00:07:16,828 --> 00:07:18,388 Speaker 2: And I went back and looked at the rankings. 161 00:07:18,588 --> 00:07:20,788 Speaker 6: When Sean Payton was the head coach of the Saints, 162 00:07:20,828 --> 00:07:24,548 Speaker 6: it was a top ten offense every single year from 163 00:07:24,588 --> 00:07:26,948 Speaker 6: the time he took over the Saints up until the 164 00:07:26,988 --> 00:07:29,188 Speaker 6: last two years when it was like all of a sudden, yeah, 165 00:07:29,228 --> 00:07:31,388 Speaker 6: maybe the things have run its course in New Orleans 166 00:07:31,428 --> 00:07:34,748 Speaker 6: and he wound up leaving there. So what is missing 167 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:36,468 Speaker 6: from this offense? And I look at it and I 168 00:07:36,508 --> 00:07:39,068 Speaker 6: watched every single game, and the guy that I can't 169 00:07:39,108 --> 00:07:41,908 Speaker 6: figure out why he doesn't have a bigger role is 170 00:07:41,908 --> 00:07:44,548 Speaker 6: Evan Ingram, a guy who was released by the Jaguars 171 00:07:44,628 --> 00:07:47,348 Speaker 6: this offseason. And then there was a bitding war between 172 00:07:47,428 --> 00:07:49,788 Speaker 6: the Broncos and the Chargers of divisional rivalry in the 173 00:07:49,828 --> 00:07:52,228 Speaker 6: offseason to see who would land him, and the Broncos 174 00:07:52,268 --> 00:07:54,468 Speaker 6: sent him in to a two year, twenty three million 175 00:07:54,468 --> 00:07:58,388 Speaker 6: dollar deal, So he is making the twelfth highest number 176 00:07:58,628 --> 00:08:00,908 Speaker 6: at the tight end position, and a lot of times 177 00:08:00,908 --> 00:08:03,148 Speaker 6: I watch the game some of that stuff just some 178 00:08:03,228 --> 00:08:06,428 Speaker 6: short sitting down, some quick counts. Now, last week he 179 00:08:06,508 --> 00:08:08,708 Speaker 6: did have a thirty three yard catch when he was 180 00:08:08,748 --> 00:08:09,468 Speaker 6: asked to run. 181 00:08:09,308 --> 00:08:11,468 Speaker 2: Down the field. There was also a play that he 182 00:08:11,508 --> 00:08:12,828 Speaker 2: had against the Washington. 183 00:08:12,508 --> 00:08:14,628 Speaker 6: Commanders earlier in the season where I was like, Yeah, 184 00:08:14,708 --> 00:08:17,228 Speaker 6: that's still the Evan Ingram. I remember being drafted by 185 00:08:17,228 --> 00:08:19,028 Speaker 6: the Giants in the way that he was explosive for 186 00:08:19,108 --> 00:08:20,588 Speaker 6: the Jaguars at times as well. 187 00:08:21,108 --> 00:08:22,548 Speaker 2: I think that's the missing piece. 188 00:08:22,588 --> 00:08:25,028 Speaker 6: If they can unlock him and get him going and 189 00:08:25,068 --> 00:08:27,348 Speaker 6: add a little bit more explosiveness to this offense, then 190 00:08:27,388 --> 00:08:29,868 Speaker 6: I'll say, Okay, now they're starting to pass the eye 191 00:08:29,868 --> 00:08:32,348 Speaker 6: test a little bit more and make them that much dangerous. 192 00:08:32,348 --> 00:08:33,868 Speaker 6: Evan Ingram, that's the guy I want to see go 193 00:08:33,948 --> 00:08:34,348 Speaker 6: off tonight. 194 00:08:34,388 --> 00:08:37,668 Speaker 5: Go. I hear that, and I believe me, Isaac. There 195 00:08:37,668 --> 00:08:40,388 Speaker 5: were some some people down in Duval County, Florida who 196 00:08:40,468 --> 00:08:42,828 Speaker 5: just screamed about you, saying the Broncos are the best 197 00:08:42,868 --> 00:08:45,708 Speaker 5: team in the NFL because the Jaguars just smacked the 198 00:08:45,708 --> 00:08:48,708 Speaker 5: Broncos in Denver. But that's what we do with Jacksonville. 199 00:08:48,708 --> 00:08:51,588 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, guys, like we should be better, but do 200 00:08:51,668 --> 00:08:53,708 Speaker 5: it again and probably have to do it another time 201 00:08:53,828 --> 00:08:56,948 Speaker 5: because Denver does look very good that last week aside, 202 00:08:56,988 --> 00:08:59,148 Speaker 5: and I'm just going to see Sean Payton today. It's 203 00:08:59,188 --> 00:09:01,188 Speaker 5: kind of a fun atmosphere to have a Sean Payton 204 00:09:01,268 --> 00:09:04,428 Speaker 5: day where last week he comes out small market, a 205 00:09:04,508 --> 00:09:06,548 Speaker 5: small market that. As I've said, it's about the two 206 00:09:06,588 --> 00:09:09,108 Speaker 5: thousandth time that Sean Payton has said something that people 207 00:09:09,148 --> 00:09:11,748 Speaker 5: don't like. He could not care less, but he does 208 00:09:11,788 --> 00:09:15,588 Speaker 5: go out and lose. I'll tell you what though, Sean Payton, 209 00:09:15,668 --> 00:09:19,188 Speaker 5: the mission which I've been showing up in Denver, it's done. 210 00:09:19,308 --> 00:09:21,428 Speaker 5: I mean, we're here, guys. This is what Sean Payton 211 00:09:21,468 --> 00:09:23,828 Speaker 5: was brought in to do. He's if he's wins the 212 00:09:23,868 --> 00:09:26,988 Speaker 5: chigast the Zombie Chiefs today, it'll be a sweep of 213 00:09:27,068 --> 00:09:29,868 Speaker 5: the Chiefs. It'll be a division title, it may be 214 00:09:30,028 --> 00:09:33,428 Speaker 5: a conference title. It's all working. And who does he 215 00:09:33,508 --> 00:09:36,628 Speaker 5: do it against? His old buddy Andy Reid, Andy Read 216 00:09:36,628 --> 00:09:39,108 Speaker 5: and Sean Payton go way back watch that today. Watch 217 00:09:39,148 --> 00:09:41,148 Speaker 5: the interaction between the two of them. It's kind of 218 00:09:41,188 --> 00:09:42,828 Speaker 5: sad to talk about Andy Reid. I thought it was 219 00:09:42,868 --> 00:09:45,188 Speaker 5: even sad playing that sound of Chris Jones, because again 220 00:09:45,228 --> 00:09:47,468 Speaker 5: they're the Zombie Chiefs and normally right now they're storming 221 00:09:47,468 --> 00:09:49,948 Speaker 5: towards the playoffs. But let's just inject a little bit 222 00:09:49,948 --> 00:09:53,468 Speaker 5: of Christmas cheer. It's still Andy. He's still jolly in 223 00:09:53,468 --> 00:09:55,868 Speaker 5: his own way, in his heart, if not outwardly. And 224 00:09:55,948 --> 00:10:07,028 Speaker 5: let's just remember some Andy, of Christmas is past. 225 00:10:08,268 --> 00:10:11,508 Speaker 12: How do you due you for the present? You can 226 00:10:11,588 --> 00:10:18,548 Speaker 12: home field of that. We'll get to the schedule taking 227 00:10:18,588 --> 00:10:19,548 Speaker 12: me up. I'm about dying. 228 00:10:21,308 --> 00:10:23,388 Speaker 5: I mean, that's gotta be like the most depressing clip 229 00:10:23,388 --> 00:10:26,748 Speaker 5: I could have possibly played. As I was playing, I 230 00:10:26,788 --> 00:10:29,988 Speaker 5: was thinking I shouldn't have played that. That is utterly depressing. 231 00:10:30,188 --> 00:10:32,788 Speaker 5: But Andy will be out there and he'll be doing 232 00:10:32,828 --> 00:10:34,388 Speaker 5: every single thing he can get out of his own 233 00:10:34,388 --> 00:10:35,988 Speaker 5: bag of tricks to try to beat his old buddy 234 00:10:36,028 --> 00:10:38,748 Speaker 5: Sean Payton. They have a swap roles here. A couple 235 00:10:38,788 --> 00:10:40,748 Speaker 5: of years ago, Sean Payton was an open feud with 236 00:10:40,788 --> 00:10:43,988 Speaker 5: his quarterback Russell Wilson, and the Broncos were doing nothing. Now, 237 00:10:44,028 --> 00:10:45,828 Speaker 5: Sean payn has staying on top of the AFC, and 238 00:10:45,828 --> 00:10:47,668 Speaker 5: Andy Reid is like, what the hell's going on here? 239 00:10:47,708 --> 00:10:50,028 Speaker 5: PASSI cheezburger, but I'll be Washington, Kyle. 240 00:10:50,068 --> 00:10:53,228 Speaker 7: You just gave every single Chiefs fan a bag of cold. 241 00:10:53,308 --> 00:10:55,228 Speaker 8: You know, we got to keep it into Christmas references. 242 00:10:55,268 --> 00:10:57,748 Speaker 8: That was that was awful and great, But real quick, 243 00:10:57,828 --> 00:11:01,108 Speaker 8: just on this Denver team, like you mentioned this, Isaac's 244 00:11:01,148 --> 00:11:03,628 Speaker 8: calling Denver the best team in football. The reason the 245 00:11:03,668 --> 00:11:05,908 Speaker 8: best team in football because they just lost and we're 246 00:11:05,948 --> 00:11:07,868 Speaker 8: sitting around talking about how they can get better, and 247 00:11:07,868 --> 00:11:12,748 Speaker 8: we're like, pass the ball to Evan Ingram Moore, miss tackles. 248 00:11:12,788 --> 00:11:16,508 Speaker 7: It's not like these huge Sure, everybody needs. 249 00:11:16,268 --> 00:11:19,508 Speaker 8: To panic issues, right, and the Jaguars are going to 250 00:11:19,548 --> 00:11:22,788 Speaker 8: have to continue to prove themselves. But all year the 251 00:11:22,868 --> 00:11:25,588 Speaker 8: Broncos have just played so well. In the mark of 252 00:11:25,628 --> 00:11:27,908 Speaker 8: a great team is always a defense, and their defense 253 00:11:28,028 --> 00:11:31,828 Speaker 8: is so impressive. So it's like, when this is on 254 00:11:31,868 --> 00:11:34,108 Speaker 8: the script, we're having a fine things to talk about 255 00:11:34,148 --> 00:11:35,628 Speaker 8: because they're so complete this. 256 00:11:35,628 --> 00:11:36,748 Speaker 7: Year and it was a good loss. 257 00:11:36,788 --> 00:11:38,308 Speaker 8: Honestly, at this point in the year, is a good 258 00:11:38,348 --> 00:11:40,588 Speaker 8: loss for them to really make a playoff run. 259 00:11:40,908 --> 00:11:42,228 Speaker 4: I think you make a really great point there. 260 00:11:42,228 --> 00:11:44,828 Speaker 3: I think it's almost like we're nitpicking things to find, 261 00:11:44,988 --> 00:11:48,868 Speaker 3: like find the perfection of the day for Broncos. But 262 00:11:48,908 --> 00:11:51,988 Speaker 3: Mike g is our Thursday night football cadence guy. The 263 00:11:52,028 --> 00:11:54,268 Speaker 3: fact that they can do this quick turnaround, have this 264 00:11:54,388 --> 00:11:58,148 Speaker 3: primetime game on a Christmas Day, how does this experience 265 00:11:58,428 --> 00:12:00,868 Speaker 3: help them that they do have so much of their 266 00:12:00,868 --> 00:12:03,828 Speaker 3: own destiny in their own control to make this playoff push. 267 00:12:03,988 --> 00:12:05,588 Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to get back out there, just like 268 00:12:05,668 --> 00:12:07,548 Speaker 6: you heard Bownecks talk about it. Who's asked about it 269 00:12:07,548 --> 00:12:10,188 Speaker 6: and said, yeah, that's absolutely the case here And look 270 00:12:10,468 --> 00:12:12,828 Speaker 6: are we nitpicking, yes, but that's what we do. Especially 271 00:12:12,868 --> 00:12:14,428 Speaker 6: when you get to this time of the year. The 272 00:12:14,508 --> 00:12:17,068 Speaker 6: question is not what the Broncos need to do to 273 00:12:17,108 --> 00:12:19,948 Speaker 6: beat the six and nine Chiefs. The Broncos are likely 274 00:12:19,988 --> 00:12:22,148 Speaker 6: going to beat the six and nine Chiefs, which are 275 00:12:22,188 --> 00:12:24,388 Speaker 6: not the Chiefs that we remember, obviously for a variety 276 00:12:24,388 --> 00:12:25,988 Speaker 6: of reasons. The question is what do you want to 277 00:12:26,028 --> 00:12:28,308 Speaker 6: see from them? Because now we're getting to the point 278 00:12:28,308 --> 00:12:30,588 Speaker 6: where they're going to be playing other teams that are 279 00:12:30,628 --> 00:12:32,868 Speaker 6: double digit teams. They're gonna be playing teams like the 280 00:12:32,948 --> 00:12:36,188 Speaker 6: Jaguars that aren't afraid to come in into their stadium 281 00:12:36,388 --> 00:12:38,388 Speaker 6: and play well as they did. They're gonna be playing 282 00:12:38,468 --> 00:12:40,508 Speaker 6: other teams in the AFC, such as Josh Allen and 283 00:12:40,548 --> 00:12:42,948 Speaker 6: the Buffalo Bills, who have a great running game. So yeah, 284 00:12:42,988 --> 00:12:45,548 Speaker 6: are we nitpicking? But it's nick picking time of the year. 285 00:12:45,588 --> 00:12:47,788 Speaker 6: It is almost the playoff time of the year. It's 286 00:12:47,828 --> 00:12:49,988 Speaker 6: time to go, Broncos. It's time to take that next step. 287 00:12:50,268 --> 00:12:51,148 Speaker 4: All right, we're going to go. 288 00:12:51,388 --> 00:12:53,908 Speaker 3: Let's see what other matchups that are keeping our attention. 289 00:12:54,028 --> 00:12:56,348 Speaker 3: We have the two other games today, Dallas at Washington, 290 00:12:56,588 --> 00:13:00,348 Speaker 3: Detroit at Minnesota. Quickly, Mike g which one is grabbing 291 00:13:00,388 --> 00:13:02,268 Speaker 3: your attention? What are you looking for in those other two? 292 00:13:02,628 --> 00:13:05,548 Speaker 6: All right, I'm looking for this Lions team to rush 293 00:13:05,588 --> 00:13:09,788 Speaker 6: for more than fifteen yards. I mean, when we came 294 00:13:09,788 --> 00:13:12,668 Speaker 6: into this season, we said, okay, they lost both coordinators. 295 00:13:12,668 --> 00:13:14,468 Speaker 2: Oh boy, the Lions are in trouble. And then they 296 00:13:14,508 --> 00:13:16,308 Speaker 2: go down week one and then it bounce back. 297 00:13:16,348 --> 00:13:19,708 Speaker 6: It scored fifty two against the Chicago Bears, and then 298 00:13:19,868 --> 00:13:21,388 Speaker 6: it was kind of up and down and up and 299 00:13:21,428 --> 00:13:26,228 Speaker 6: down and up and down there. But fifteen yards rushing. 300 00:13:27,028 --> 00:13:29,308 Speaker 6: This is not the Lions. I don't care who you're 301 00:13:29,348 --> 00:13:31,788 Speaker 6: playing against it was in your building in a game 302 00:13:31,828 --> 00:13:35,148 Speaker 6: you absolutely had to win. The previous low, by the way, 303 00:13:35,228 --> 00:13:37,868 Speaker 6: and the Dan Campbell era was thirty six for the 304 00:13:37,908 --> 00:13:40,548 Speaker 6: twenty twenty one team. The twenty twenty five team is 305 00:13:40,548 --> 00:13:43,908 Speaker 6: supposed to be a lot better. Look at that number 306 00:13:43,948 --> 00:13:48,228 Speaker 6: two thirty to fifteen, Like, this is a look in 307 00:13:48,268 --> 00:13:50,628 Speaker 6: the mirror. We are supposed to be the Lions. We're 308 00:13:50,668 --> 00:13:53,548 Speaker 6: supposed to be a Dan tumble. I understand that, I 309 00:13:53,628 --> 00:13:56,068 Speaker 6: get that right, But then remember Dan Campbell took over 310 00:13:56,148 --> 00:13:58,348 Speaker 6: play calling, and it's like, oh, the Lions offense is back. 311 00:13:59,068 --> 00:14:02,148 Speaker 6: I mean, give me fifty one, don't give me fifteen. 312 00:14:02,628 --> 00:14:03,148 Speaker 7: Mike Gee. 313 00:14:03,148 --> 00:14:05,668 Speaker 8: I think if you we're running the ball behind the 314 00:14:05,708 --> 00:14:08,428 Speaker 8: best O line in the NFL, whoever that is, you 315 00:14:08,468 --> 00:14:11,268 Speaker 8: could get fifteen yards, probably in the first quarter. Yeah, 316 00:14:11,308 --> 00:14:13,748 Speaker 8: so I fully agree with you. I want to tell 317 00:14:13,788 --> 00:14:15,948 Speaker 8: a very quick story here. When I signed with the 318 00:14:16,028 --> 00:14:18,308 Speaker 8: Raiders at the very end of the twenty twenty three 319 00:14:18,348 --> 00:14:20,588 Speaker 8: season two weeks left. I got there and they were 320 00:14:20,628 --> 00:14:25,028 Speaker 8: still a playoff potential. But when I felt the energy 321 00:14:25,028 --> 00:14:28,668 Speaker 8: from that locker room, nobody cared about making some playoffs. 322 00:14:28,668 --> 00:14:31,708 Speaker 8: Everybody was planning for the offseason. The culture was not there. 323 00:14:31,828 --> 00:14:34,268 Speaker 8: My question for this Lions team, because I agree with you, 324 00:14:34,348 --> 00:14:36,668 Speaker 8: Mike g I want to see who are they like. 325 00:14:36,788 --> 00:14:38,988 Speaker 7: Is this culture real? Was this culture just. 326 00:14:39,428 --> 00:14:43,708 Speaker 8: Based off of Ben Johnson's phenomenal offense and then winning games, 327 00:14:43,908 --> 00:14:46,028 Speaker 8: or is this culture of biting the knee caps and 328 00:14:46,108 --> 00:14:49,348 Speaker 8: Dan Campbell actually there? Because if it is, they should 329 00:14:49,388 --> 00:14:52,148 Speaker 8: go dominate the Vikings. They should win their final game, 330 00:14:52,348 --> 00:14:53,788 Speaker 8: and then maybe they make it. 331 00:14:53,748 --> 00:14:54,388 Speaker 7: To the playoffs. 332 00:14:54,428 --> 00:14:56,948 Speaker 8: But right now, my biggest question that I'm excited to 333 00:14:56,988 --> 00:15:01,068 Speaker 8: find out today are the Detroit Lions culturally where they 334 00:15:01,068 --> 00:15:02,508 Speaker 8: need to be to get better. 335 00:15:02,748 --> 00:15:05,388 Speaker 5: It's a fair question. And if Theans lose or if 336 00:15:05,388 --> 00:15:07,388 Speaker 5: they lose out they don't make the playoffs, the post 337 00:15:07,388 --> 00:15:11,548 Speaker 5: mortem on their season will be the coordinators and fair unfair. 338 00:15:11,668 --> 00:15:14,508 Speaker 5: It's you can ask that if they finish eight to 339 00:15:14,668 --> 00:15:16,908 Speaker 5: nine or nine to eight or whatever it is, that's 340 00:15:16,988 --> 00:15:19,268 Speaker 5: we talked about the offseason, and then the line's offense 341 00:15:19,348 --> 00:15:20,868 Speaker 5: was not as good in spots this year. That is 342 00:15:20,908 --> 00:15:22,308 Speaker 5: just fair. That's how it works, and I know Dan 343 00:15:22,348 --> 00:15:25,348 Speaker 5: Campbell knows that's coming. I'm looking forward to watching George 344 00:15:25,348 --> 00:15:29,068 Speaker 5: Pickens play football on my television today for a million reasons. One, 345 00:15:29,108 --> 00:15:31,708 Speaker 5: it's George Pickens. I'm always looking forward to it. Two 346 00:15:32,348 --> 00:15:35,228 Speaker 5: last week he was outstanding. We didn't talk about it 347 00:15:35,308 --> 00:15:37,188 Speaker 5: that much because the Cowboys are out of it. But 348 00:15:37,228 --> 00:15:39,948 Speaker 5: if you were watching the Cowboys game today against the Commanders, 349 00:15:39,988 --> 00:15:43,988 Speaker 5: watch Pickens another little subplot. And sometimes Christmases are about 350 00:15:44,028 --> 00:15:47,348 Speaker 5: the ghost of Christmas past. Do you guys remember last 351 00:15:47,428 --> 00:15:50,988 Speaker 5: year the Cowboys played on Christmas and Pickens showed up 352 00:15:51,068 --> 00:15:53,788 Speaker 5: late to the game. Now, I don't mean he showed 353 00:15:53,828 --> 00:15:56,548 Speaker 5: up in the second quarterback, but he showed up like 354 00:15:56,788 --> 00:15:59,548 Speaker 5: way way later than you're supposed to show up, and 355 00:15:59,588 --> 00:16:01,828 Speaker 5: it was a big to do and people were doing 356 00:16:01,828 --> 00:16:04,308 Speaker 5: a nine. And why is Pickings are late? I don't 357 00:16:04,308 --> 00:16:06,868 Speaker 5: know if there's any apathy that's crept in for Pickings 358 00:16:06,868 --> 00:16:09,108 Speaker 5: at all with a six eight and one record, But 359 00:16:09,348 --> 00:16:11,828 Speaker 5: if they're on time, let's be locked in because he 360 00:16:11,868 --> 00:16:13,468 Speaker 5: has been one of the best players in the NFL 361 00:16:13,508 --> 00:16:16,828 Speaker 5: this year, always entertaining early later otherwise. So keep your 362 00:16:16,828 --> 00:16:18,468 Speaker 5: eye on him right now. And Mike g and the 363 00:16:18,508 --> 00:16:21,028 Speaker 5: Insider taxes, well, it's still not at the stadium. I 364 00:16:21,068 --> 00:16:21,868 Speaker 5: can't wait to see that. 365 00:16:22,468 --> 00:16:26,628 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what though, if the Lions 366 00:16:26,708 --> 00:16:28,268 Speaker 6: running backs don't show up on time? 367 00:16:28,868 --> 00:16:29,828 Speaker 2: Do I get put? 368 00:16:29,868 --> 00:16:34,228 Speaker 6: I mean, I gotta go back to Isaacs. This is 369 00:16:34,228 --> 00:16:35,788 Speaker 6: the kind of stuff that you sit there with your 370 00:16:35,828 --> 00:16:37,708 Speaker 6: idiot friends. I remember we went to a baseball game 371 00:16:37,708 --> 00:16:40,268 Speaker 6: one time and my buddies like, I could play third 372 00:16:40,308 --> 00:16:42,828 Speaker 6: base for three innings, and we're like, you can't play 373 00:16:42,908 --> 00:16:46,068 Speaker 6: third base in a major league baseball game. So for 374 00:16:46,108 --> 00:16:48,148 Speaker 6: Isaac to say that I could rush for fifteen. 375 00:16:47,868 --> 00:16:49,708 Speaker 2: Yards, that's the kind of stuff that we would argue, like, 376 00:16:49,828 --> 00:16:52,148 Speaker 2: if I get good, which offensive line? And am I 377 00:16:52,228 --> 00:16:54,308 Speaker 2: running behind? Which defense? Am I going? Again? 378 00:16:54,348 --> 00:16:57,188 Speaker 6: Could I get fifteen yards in an NFL game? 379 00:16:57,268 --> 00:16:57,708 Speaker 2: Isaac? 380 00:16:57,908 --> 00:17:00,548 Speaker 6: For you, a former NFL player, to say that I 381 00:17:00,588 --> 00:17:01,868 Speaker 6: think I can, I'm down. 382 00:17:01,948 --> 00:17:02,268 Speaker 5: Let's go. 383 00:17:02,828 --> 00:17:04,788 Speaker 4: You got the what you need. 384 00:17:05,068 --> 00:17:08,268 Speaker 5: Listen, these things always come down to this, Mike. If 385 00:17:08,268 --> 00:17:10,748 Speaker 5: you were given enough carries in a vacuum, yes you 386 00:17:10,748 --> 00:17:13,828 Speaker 5: could get fifteen. What you're not accounting for is the 387 00:17:13,908 --> 00:17:15,908 Speaker 5: first carry getting injured. 388 00:17:15,708 --> 00:17:20,188 Speaker 6: And only get one hands fifteen big right off the bed. 389 00:17:20,388 --> 00:17:22,948 Speaker 5: You're not going outside, Mike, So I assume you're going 390 00:17:22,948 --> 00:17:25,188 Speaker 5: off the middle. That's where the bad boys are. You 391 00:17:25,188 --> 00:17:25,988 Speaker 5: don't off there? 392 00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:28,268 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 393 00:17:28,508 --> 00:17:30,908 Speaker 3: Yeah, he also said that Eggnog was hitting a little 394 00:17:30,908 --> 00:17:34,308 Speaker 3: hard this morning, so, uh, we'll give you a break 395 00:17:34,308 --> 00:17:38,388 Speaker 3: on that one. I'm in the protocol, questionable, Mike ge 396 00:17:38,628 --> 00:17:42,668 Speaker 3: running back. Now there are the Packers head coach Matt Lafour. 397 00:17:42,748 --> 00:17:44,908 Speaker 3: He has a tall task ahead of him taking on 398 00:17:44,948 --> 00:17:47,588 Speaker 3: this Ravens defense, and it you know, in the spirit 399 00:17:47,628 --> 00:17:50,668 Speaker 3: of the holiday season. Yesterday he was asked and said 400 00:17:50,708 --> 00:17:53,268 Speaker 3: what he expects under the Christmas tree for him listen 401 00:17:53,308 --> 00:17:53,548 Speaker 3: to this. 402 00:17:55,068 --> 00:17:57,308 Speaker 13: I'm sure we'll be getting up early in my house 403 00:17:57,468 --> 00:18:01,828 Speaker 13: and uh over to the presence, and about the minute 404 00:18:01,868 --> 00:18:05,908 Speaker 13: we're done doing that, we'll be back at the office. 405 00:18:06,228 --> 00:18:07,748 Speaker 5: So I don't think I don't. 406 00:18:08,028 --> 00:18:09,588 Speaker 13: I don't think my wife thought I was a good 407 00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:11,948 Speaker 13: boy this year, so I don't think she got me anything. 408 00:18:13,348 --> 00:18:15,388 Speaker 13: I was on the naughty list. 409 00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:19,028 Speaker 4: Ooh, naughty list. I mean maybe because he usually wins 410 00:18:19,068 --> 00:18:21,508 Speaker 4: in December. Guys, what we see from Green Bay. But 411 00:18:21,788 --> 00:18:24,468 Speaker 4: you know, Brien Lafloor, Miss Lafloor, we see you there. 412 00:18:24,948 --> 00:18:27,148 Speaker 3: We're going to really dig into this race. Mike Gee, 413 00:18:27,148 --> 00:18:28,188 Speaker 3: why does that make you laugh? 414 00:18:28,748 --> 00:18:29,708 Speaker 2: Well? Can I? 415 00:18:29,788 --> 00:18:29,948 Speaker 5: Yeah? 416 00:18:30,588 --> 00:18:33,668 Speaker 6: Right off the bat here, Because NFL coaching wives are 417 00:18:33,708 --> 00:18:37,548 Speaker 6: the unsung heroes. Of the league because of what they 418 00:18:37,588 --> 00:18:39,628 Speaker 6: have to deal with, the fact that these guys are 419 00:18:39,908 --> 00:18:42,228 Speaker 6: at times sleeping in the office as much time. I mean, 420 00:18:42,268 --> 00:18:45,068 Speaker 6: like a lot of kids, a lot of NFL coaching 421 00:18:45,148 --> 00:18:47,788 Speaker 6: kids today are having amazing Christmases and. 422 00:18:47,748 --> 00:18:48,708 Speaker 2: It's because of Mom. 423 00:18:49,028 --> 00:18:50,628 Speaker 6: It's because of what she was able to do and 424 00:18:50,668 --> 00:18:52,708 Speaker 6: what she was able to get done. So I don't 425 00:18:52,788 --> 00:18:54,948 Speaker 6: know what you can do on top of everything you 426 00:18:55,108 --> 00:18:57,348 Speaker 6: throw on top of her to get on the naughty list. 427 00:18:57,428 --> 00:19:00,508 Speaker 6: Matt Lafloor, So I heard that, I'm thinking, what are 428 00:19:00,508 --> 00:19:01,388 Speaker 6: we not hearing here? 429 00:19:01,428 --> 00:19:01,988 Speaker 2: But whatever? 430 00:19:02,868 --> 00:19:06,548 Speaker 3: Yeah, between the a little bit, but looking at miss 431 00:19:06,668 --> 00:19:09,068 Speaker 3: Ravens Packer game, get us started here? 432 00:19:09,108 --> 00:19:10,388 Speaker 4: What do we feel like you need to see? 433 00:19:10,428 --> 00:19:12,788 Speaker 3: Mike g When it comes to just the football part 434 00:19:12,788 --> 00:19:14,548 Speaker 3: of this, we're going to leave that home part for 435 00:19:14,628 --> 00:19:15,228 Speaker 3: a different day. 436 00:19:15,468 --> 00:19:17,908 Speaker 6: I want to see Jordan Love on the nicest I 437 00:19:17,908 --> 00:19:19,948 Speaker 6: want to see him get through concussion protocol. I want 438 00:19:19,988 --> 00:19:22,228 Speaker 6: to see him play and I have enjoyed watching him 439 00:19:22,228 --> 00:19:23,588 Speaker 6: play this year. I think he does a great job 440 00:19:23,628 --> 00:19:28,628 Speaker 6: of playing the quarterback position. And Pro Bowl snubs, You've 441 00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:29,908 Speaker 6: got them every single year. 442 00:19:30,188 --> 00:19:32,268 Speaker 2: Does Jordan Love have a case? I think he does. 443 00:19:32,468 --> 00:19:34,068 Speaker 6: You know you look at his numbers this year, He's 444 00:19:34,068 --> 00:19:36,708 Speaker 6: thrown half the interceptions. I believe that Sam Darnold has 445 00:19:36,748 --> 00:19:40,708 Speaker 6: had his numbers this year thirty three eighty one, eight 446 00:19:40,828 --> 00:19:43,428 Speaker 6: fewer yards that he had in fifteen games last year, 447 00:19:44,228 --> 00:19:47,668 Speaker 6: and the interceptions cut from eleven to six, twenty three 448 00:19:47,708 --> 00:19:50,108 Speaker 6: touchdowns to the same twenty five that he had last year. 449 00:19:50,148 --> 00:19:52,628 Speaker 2: And I just think he's played phenomenal football. 450 00:19:52,708 --> 00:19:55,348 Speaker 6: That fifteen games also includes him leaving early the other game, 451 00:19:55,428 --> 00:19:58,188 Speaker 6: so he potentially could have put up even better numbers. 452 00:19:58,228 --> 00:20:00,428 Speaker 6: So I want Jordan Love to get through the protocol. 453 00:20:00,428 --> 00:20:01,868 Speaker 6: I want to see him out there on the field. 454 00:20:01,908 --> 00:20:03,508 Speaker 6: I don't think we're going to see Lamar Jackson. You 455 00:20:03,548 --> 00:20:06,028 Speaker 6: heard what Ian said. So let's get Jordan Love out there. 456 00:20:06,068 --> 00:20:07,548 Speaker 6: Let's see the Packers at full strength. 457 00:20:07,988 --> 00:20:10,948 Speaker 7: Mike g real quick, because you brought up moms. 458 00:20:10,948 --> 00:20:12,468 Speaker 8: I have to get my mom a shout out because 459 00:20:12,508 --> 00:20:15,068 Speaker 8: I know she's watching the show Gina in Minnesota. 460 00:20:15,268 --> 00:20:17,468 Speaker 7: My mom, who I love? I miss him? 461 00:20:18,068 --> 00:20:20,228 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know it's all that matters, right, moms and 462 00:20:20,268 --> 00:20:21,268 Speaker 8: the wives of the NFL. 463 00:20:21,348 --> 00:20:23,268 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about moms more and how important they 464 00:20:23,308 --> 00:20:24,028 Speaker 3: are to their families. 465 00:20:24,068 --> 00:20:24,788 Speaker 4: I'm here for this. 466 00:20:25,308 --> 00:20:28,988 Speaker 7: Literally, but people that I want to see in this game. 467 00:20:29,068 --> 00:20:31,828 Speaker 8: Not to quickly change the subject, mom, but people that 468 00:20:31,868 --> 00:20:34,308 Speaker 8: I want to see. I'm obviously going to talk about 469 00:20:34,388 --> 00:20:36,268 Speaker 8: all the Notre Dame guys that are playing on this 470 00:20:36,388 --> 00:20:40,108 Speaker 8: Baltimore Ravens team. There are big difference makers. This isn't 471 00:20:40,188 --> 00:20:42,668 Speaker 8: like a hoorah. I've got Notre Dame stuff in the background, 472 00:20:42,748 --> 00:20:45,828 Speaker 8: so I'm going to talk about it. Ronnie Stanley, Alohi Gilman, 473 00:20:46,268 --> 00:20:50,148 Speaker 8: and the great number fourteen best safety in football right now. 474 00:20:50,148 --> 00:20:53,468 Speaker 8: In my opinion, these guys are big difference makers in 475 00:20:53,508 --> 00:20:57,468 Speaker 8: this game. Of course, the safeties. With a quarterback that's 476 00:20:57,508 --> 00:21:00,508 Speaker 8: not going to be Jordan Love potentially, it's gonna matter 477 00:21:00,548 --> 00:21:02,788 Speaker 8: what type of looks they have defensively what they can do. 478 00:21:03,028 --> 00:21:03,908 Speaker 7: And then Ronnie. 479 00:21:03,668 --> 00:21:06,708 Speaker 8: Stanley's huge for this too because we may not see 480 00:21:06,748 --> 00:21:09,668 Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson. They're running games got to be huge. With 481 00:21:09,708 --> 00:21:11,468 Speaker 8: Derrick Henry, we've had a lot of issues with that 482 00:21:11,628 --> 00:21:13,868 Speaker 8: and the pull wasn't all. We want Dereck Henry to 483 00:21:13,908 --> 00:21:16,028 Speaker 8: have wide open lanes to run the ball. So Notre 484 00:21:16,148 --> 00:21:19,108 Speaker 8: Dame guys are no doubt gonna be the biggest piece 485 00:21:19,108 --> 00:21:19,748 Speaker 8: of this game. 486 00:21:20,348 --> 00:21:23,668 Speaker 5: Okay, you can talk Notre Dame. I'll talk to Alabama 487 00:21:23,708 --> 00:21:26,508 Speaker 5: because they actually made the college football Playoff. Derek, we're 488 00:21:26,548 --> 00:21:33,188 Speaker 5: doing that. I mean, that's true, they did make it. 489 00:21:33,268 --> 00:21:36,748 Speaker 5: And Derrick Henry. I think today is an important day 490 00:21:36,748 --> 00:21:38,908 Speaker 5: of Derrick Henry. Why the end of the season, the 491 00:21:38,908 --> 00:21:41,828 Speaker 5: team's not very good, they're seven and eight. There is 492 00:21:41,828 --> 00:21:45,028 Speaker 5: the script that's already written for them where Lamar his 493 00:21:45,148 --> 00:21:47,668 Speaker 5: body or whatever is going on with Lamar let them 494 00:21:47,708 --> 00:21:49,908 Speaker 5: down and the Ravens just kind of lose out and 495 00:21:49,908 --> 00:21:53,428 Speaker 5: go quietly into this into the sunset. Or what if 496 00:21:53,428 --> 00:21:56,468 Speaker 5: Derek Henry just goes ballistic? What if he just goes 497 00:21:56,588 --> 00:22:00,268 Speaker 5: absolutely not cin Lambo Field today and as a special day, Guys, 498 00:22:00,308 --> 00:22:02,028 Speaker 5: I don't know if you've noticed, is Derek Henry's thirty 499 00:22:02,068 --> 00:22:05,868 Speaker 5: one is casually dropping one hundred yards this season, a 500 00:22:05,948 --> 00:22:09,548 Speaker 5: dozen touchdowns, five yards of carry. He is doing everything 501 00:22:09,588 --> 00:22:12,308 Speaker 5: he has always done, albeit on a team that has 502 00:22:12,388 --> 00:22:15,628 Speaker 5: just really continued to underwhelm. I just wonder if there's 503 00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:17,468 Speaker 5: any way he could carry this team. I think Derek 504 00:22:17,468 --> 00:22:19,188 Speaker 5: Henry is a Hall of Famer. I do. I think 505 00:22:19,188 --> 00:22:20,348 Speaker 5: when this is all done, I think he's going to 506 00:22:20,388 --> 00:22:22,628 Speaker 5: get in. This is the kind of days where if 507 00:22:22,628 --> 00:22:25,388 Speaker 5: you go absolutely nuts on Christmas Day and you win 508 00:22:25,428 --> 00:22:28,388 Speaker 5: in lambeau Field and you keep that Ravens heartbeat alive, 509 00:22:28,908 --> 00:22:31,348 Speaker 5: that's how you go and become a first ballot guy someday. 510 00:22:31,428 --> 00:22:33,908 Speaker 5: I mean it's this is a chance to be legendaries. 511 00:22:33,908 --> 00:22:36,188 Speaker 5: He's out there with his usual backup quarterback like he 512 00:22:36,268 --> 00:22:39,028 Speaker 5: has all year against the Packers who are really playing 513 00:22:39,068 --> 00:22:41,188 Speaker 5: for a lot. Derek Henry, have a day, give us 514 00:22:41,228 --> 00:22:43,308 Speaker 5: one of those specials. Give us another ninety nine yard run, 515 00:22:43,508 --> 00:22:45,628 Speaker 5: give us another two hundred yard day. Just give us 516 00:22:45,628 --> 00:22:48,108 Speaker 5: an absolute show, because it's going to have to come 517 00:22:48,108 --> 00:22:50,148 Speaker 5: from you. And this guy's never afraid of the work. 518 00:22:50,148 --> 00:22:52,228 Speaker 5: I'm looking for a huge day number twenty two today. 519 00:22:52,428 --> 00:22:53,788 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe Mike Gen you can speak to this. 520 00:22:53,868 --> 00:22:56,068 Speaker 3: That's why the Ravens got a guy like Dereck Henry 521 00:22:56,108 --> 00:22:57,348 Speaker 3: to put games away late. 522 00:22:57,748 --> 00:22:59,788 Speaker 4: Just run the ball. Kyle Well, we had him on 523 00:22:59,988 --> 00:23:02,148 Speaker 4: was It literarlier this week. He said he's after. 524 00:23:01,988 --> 00:23:05,548 Speaker 3: Another angry receptor, so something we need to be certainly 525 00:23:05,588 --> 00:23:07,308 Speaker 3: on the lookout for as he takes on this Green 526 00:23:07,348 --> 00:23:12,188 Speaker 3: Bay team Christmas edition of Throwdown Thursday. So as we 527 00:23:12,228 --> 00:23:15,428 Speaker 3: tell the baby gentle hands in this throwdown. We're going 528 00:23:15,508 --> 00:23:18,708 Speaker 3: to start question number one. Who has been the greatest 529 00:23:18,748 --> 00:23:22,468 Speaker 3: gift to Sean Payton this season? Is it bon Nicks 530 00:23:22,548 --> 00:23:25,268 Speaker 3: wrapped up in beautiful wrapping paper or is it the 531 00:23:25,428 --> 00:23:29,588 Speaker 3: Denver defense that is the gift to head coach Sean Payton? 532 00:23:29,708 --> 00:23:30,668 Speaker 4: Isaac, what do you think? 533 00:23:30,868 --> 00:23:31,108 Speaker 7: Yeah? 534 00:23:31,148 --> 00:23:34,068 Speaker 8: I think this is a definite defense thing. And I 535 00:23:34,148 --> 00:23:36,788 Speaker 8: played defensive end in the NFL, so it checks out 536 00:23:36,788 --> 00:23:38,788 Speaker 8: that I would say this. But I remember playing with 537 00:23:38,828 --> 00:23:41,068 Speaker 8: Melvin Ingram, and Melvin Ingram was a guy who would 538 00:23:41,108 --> 00:23:42,348 Speaker 8: come in the locker room when we were at the 539 00:23:42,428 --> 00:23:43,908 Speaker 8: Chargers at halftime and. 540 00:23:43,868 --> 00:23:46,308 Speaker 7: Be like, if they don't score, they don't win. It's 541 00:23:46,348 --> 00:23:47,508 Speaker 7: the simplest. 542 00:23:47,028 --> 00:23:51,348 Speaker 8: Concept in football, and this defense is giving them opportunities 543 00:23:51,388 --> 00:23:55,068 Speaker 8: to win. It's complementary football. The better the defense plays, 544 00:23:55,068 --> 00:23:58,188 Speaker 8: the better Bonnicks can play. If you're seeing highlights right now, 545 00:23:58,268 --> 00:24:02,108 Speaker 8: this d line absolutely dominating and it dominated all year. 546 00:24:02,148 --> 00:24:04,628 Speaker 8: I mean they're coming out of games with six Evan, 547 00:24:04,708 --> 00:24:07,148 Speaker 8: I'll throw in the six seven reference six to seven sacks. 548 00:24:07,348 --> 00:24:08,348 Speaker 7: That's not normal. 549 00:24:08,588 --> 00:24:12,108 Speaker 8: Also, when you look at them categorically, they're top five 550 00:24:12,468 --> 00:24:15,868 Speaker 8: in pretty much every defensive category. So again, these are 551 00:24:15,948 --> 00:24:19,348 Speaker 8: difference makers. When it comes to playoff teams. Every great 552 00:24:19,388 --> 00:24:21,948 Speaker 8: coach says, when it comes to playoffs, pack your defense 553 00:24:21,988 --> 00:24:24,508 Speaker 8: and pack your special teams. And that's what they're gonna 554 00:24:24,508 --> 00:24:26,468 Speaker 8: It's what they're gonna continue to do. Their defense has 555 00:24:26,508 --> 00:24:28,028 Speaker 8: been top tier all year. 556 00:24:28,588 --> 00:24:30,308 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the defense for me. 557 00:24:30,468 --> 00:24:32,428 Speaker 6: And you could sit here and say, oh, Patrick's air ten, 558 00:24:32,868 --> 00:24:36,668 Speaker 6: Nick Benito, these guys up front, Zach Allen, I'm gonna 559 00:24:36,668 --> 00:24:42,028 Speaker 6: go Riley Moss and Riley Moss is abstract art. Basically, 560 00:24:42,068 --> 00:24:44,868 Speaker 6: you look at it and everybody sees something different. Mark 561 00:24:44,908 --> 00:24:48,628 Speaker 6: Riley Moss is the cornerback opposite Patrick Sir Tan, which 562 00:24:48,668 --> 00:24:51,428 Speaker 6: means he is going to see the football come towards 563 00:24:51,468 --> 00:24:54,268 Speaker 6: the guys that he is covering more often than a 564 00:24:54,268 --> 00:24:56,108 Speaker 6: lot of other cornerbacks. 565 00:24:55,468 --> 00:24:58,148 Speaker 2: In the league. Is nobody wants to throw too often 566 00:24:58,228 --> 00:24:59,348 Speaker 2: the ten side. 567 00:24:59,508 --> 00:25:03,828 Speaker 6: And uh, there's been a lot of this, well I 568 00:25:03,868 --> 00:25:05,908 Speaker 6: was looking for break up. Well there's an interception off 569 00:25:05,908 --> 00:25:08,788 Speaker 6: with deflection. There's also been a lot of penalties as well. 570 00:25:09,188 --> 00:25:10,988 Speaker 6: You got to take the good with the bad, and 571 00:25:11,028 --> 00:25:13,828 Speaker 6: you gotta love the fact that despite that and despite 572 00:25:13,828 --> 00:25:15,708 Speaker 6: what some people say when they go, hey, this guy's 573 00:25:15,748 --> 00:25:18,748 Speaker 6: the most penalized guy, and you know he's struggling because 574 00:25:19,268 --> 00:25:21,268 Speaker 6: look at how many times they're throwing his way or whatever. 575 00:25:21,668 --> 00:25:24,468 Speaker 6: Riley Moss is in there competing and he hasn't budged, 576 00:25:24,508 --> 00:25:26,668 Speaker 6: and he hasn't back down, and he continues to do it. 577 00:25:26,908 --> 00:25:30,188 Speaker 6: I love Riley Moss's competitiveness. I think in the future 578 00:25:30,228 --> 00:25:33,028 Speaker 6: he's gonna get his own big contract Kyle, and I 579 00:25:33,068 --> 00:25:34,348 Speaker 6: love the fact that he hasn't back down. 580 00:25:34,388 --> 00:25:35,348 Speaker 2: He hasn't waivered at all. 581 00:25:35,628 --> 00:25:38,148 Speaker 5: I like Moss a lot too, obviously, I like the defense. 582 00:25:38,388 --> 00:25:40,388 Speaker 5: But Nicks is everything they could have wanted him to be. 583 00:25:40,508 --> 00:25:42,388 Speaker 5: He's far from perfect. He still has a lot of 584 00:25:42,428 --> 00:25:45,228 Speaker 5: growing to do, but bon Nicks is working and it 585 00:25:45,268 --> 00:25:47,828 Speaker 5: maybe shouldn't have happened like this. Let's just remember the 586 00:25:47,828 --> 00:25:50,988 Speaker 5: origin story of bon Nicks. Sean Payton shows up and 587 00:25:51,028 --> 00:25:56,988 Speaker 5: there is a messy, awkward, really unsavory relationship with Russell 588 00:25:56,988 --> 00:25:59,628 Speaker 5: Wilson in which he is benched and sat down and 589 00:25:59,668 --> 00:26:01,468 Speaker 5: just it's one of the worst stories going on in 590 00:26:01,508 --> 00:26:03,548 Speaker 5: football that year. So they go and they're going to 591 00:26:03,628 --> 00:26:06,548 Speaker 5: draft a quarterback. Sean Payton's like, yeah, we'll take the 592 00:26:06,788 --> 00:26:10,268 Speaker 5: sixth quarterback in the first round. The sixth We'll take 593 00:26:10,308 --> 00:26:13,228 Speaker 5: our sixth choice, and that's how I'm going to launch 594 00:26:13,308 --> 00:26:16,188 Speaker 5: this next era of my career with QB six in 595 00:26:16,268 --> 00:26:18,428 Speaker 5: the draft. And he said, no, this is the guy 596 00:26:18,468 --> 00:26:20,268 Speaker 5: we wanted, and we're like, yeah, sure it was. You 597 00:26:20,348 --> 00:26:21,788 Speaker 5: just liked them all and you were six in line. No, 598 00:26:21,948 --> 00:26:23,948 Speaker 5: this is the one we wanted. And it's worked, and 599 00:26:23,988 --> 00:26:26,188 Speaker 5: it's really worked, and it's worked better than some of 600 00:26:26,228 --> 00:26:28,308 Speaker 5: those quarterbacks that were drafted in front of him. I 601 00:26:28,348 --> 00:26:30,108 Speaker 5: don't need to mention their names. You know who they are. 602 00:26:30,268 --> 00:26:32,268 Speaker 5: Sean Payton knew his guy, got his guy has his 603 00:26:32,348 --> 00:26:35,468 Speaker 5: defense and boon Nicks. That's fun about bon Nicks and 604 00:26:35,468 --> 00:26:37,548 Speaker 5: the Broncos is there's a feeling that the best could 605 00:26:37,548 --> 00:26:39,748 Speaker 5: be yet to come, just like there kind of is 606 00:26:39,788 --> 00:26:41,988 Speaker 5: with Caleb and some of these other younger guys. Some 607 00:26:42,028 --> 00:26:43,948 Speaker 5: of these guys in the playoffs this year, we already 608 00:26:43,988 --> 00:26:46,468 Speaker 5: know what they got, but Nicks maybe can uncorcent but 609 00:26:46,508 --> 00:26:49,188 Speaker 5: we haven't seen yet. It's exciting, it's intoxicating, and he 610 00:26:49,268 --> 00:26:51,188 Speaker 5: really has them exactly where he always thought they would 611 00:26:51,188 --> 00:26:51,548 Speaker 5: take him. 612 00:26:51,708 --> 00:26:54,388 Speaker 3: And that's Peyton plus Knicks plus defense. Really the gift 613 00:26:54,468 --> 00:26:57,188 Speaker 3: for all the above for Broncos fans as they look 614 00:26:57,268 --> 00:26:59,748 Speaker 3: to clinch the AFC West for the first time since 615 00:26:59,788 --> 00:27:02,828 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. We don't need to remind Broncos fans how 616 00:27:02,908 --> 00:27:05,708 Speaker 3: that ended up for them super Bowl Parade. May I 617 00:27:05,748 --> 00:27:08,188 Speaker 3: remind you now, Ben Johnson, Kyle you kind of mentioned 618 00:27:08,228 --> 00:27:11,188 Speaker 3: they're Chicago Bears, but they are taking on Kyle Shanahan 619 00:27:11,308 --> 00:27:13,828 Speaker 3: and the forty nine ers in this big NFC matchup. 620 00:27:14,068 --> 00:27:17,148 Speaker 3: We want to listen to Coach Johnson first talking about 621 00:27:17,148 --> 00:27:18,788 Speaker 3: his coaching peers listen to this. 622 00:27:19,948 --> 00:27:22,948 Speaker 14: Each year, you know this, the Shanahan offense looks a 623 00:27:22,988 --> 00:27:27,188 Speaker 14: little bit different. It's got some different wrinkles. As defenses change, 624 00:27:27,548 --> 00:27:30,548 Speaker 14: He's been changing as well, and I think that's enabled 625 00:27:30,588 --> 00:27:34,508 Speaker 14: him to stay on the forefront of some of these concepts. 626 00:27:34,548 --> 00:27:36,548 Speaker 14: And so I think he does a great job, as 627 00:27:36,588 --> 00:27:38,308 Speaker 14: good of a job as anybody in the NFL of 628 00:27:38,348 --> 00:27:40,988 Speaker 14: putting his guys in a great spot to be successful. 629 00:27:41,268 --> 00:27:43,828 Speaker 14: And you know it certainly shows up there on third 630 00:27:43,868 --> 00:27:45,268 Speaker 14: down and in the red zone. 631 00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:49,068 Speaker 3: Coach, they're talking about success, I think we could use 632 00:27:49,108 --> 00:27:51,388 Speaker 3: that word for both of those. But for topic two, 633 00:27:51,668 --> 00:27:54,508 Speaker 3: who do you think whose season isn't a better resume? 634 00:27:54,588 --> 00:27:56,668 Speaker 4: A better resume for coach of the year. 635 00:27:57,188 --> 00:27:59,828 Speaker 3: Is it Ben Johnson what he's doing in Chicago, or 636 00:27:59,908 --> 00:28:02,508 Speaker 3: is it Kyle Shanahan Isaac what he's doing there in 637 00:28:02,548 --> 00:28:03,228 Speaker 3: San Francisco. 638 00:28:03,988 --> 00:28:04,748 Speaker 7: Yeah, I love it. 639 00:28:04,788 --> 00:28:07,588 Speaker 8: Look, Kyle, I'm gonna make you happy here because I'm 640 00:28:07,668 --> 00:28:10,748 Speaker 8: fully converted into a Bears guy. Like, any time I 641 00:28:10,748 --> 00:28:13,228 Speaker 8: can talk positively about Ben Johnson, I'm going to so 642 00:28:13,508 --> 00:28:14,068 Speaker 8: no doubt. 643 00:28:14,108 --> 00:28:17,028 Speaker 7: My answer here is Ben Johnson. And this was fun 644 00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:17,268 Speaker 7: for me. 645 00:28:17,308 --> 00:28:19,108 Speaker 8: I went back and I wanted to watch the first 646 00:28:19,108 --> 00:28:21,388 Speaker 8: press conference he had for the Bears, just to really 647 00:28:21,588 --> 00:28:24,148 Speaker 8: evaluate where they are now and what his thought process 648 00:28:24,268 --> 00:28:27,108 Speaker 8: was going in. I watched his press conference for like 649 00:28:27,308 --> 00:28:29,308 Speaker 8: fifteen minutes, and the guy who was just sitting there 650 00:28:29,308 --> 00:28:31,508 Speaker 8: giving things right, I want to thank my family, I 651 00:28:31,508 --> 00:28:33,348 Speaker 8: want to thank the Lions organization. I want to thank 652 00:28:33,388 --> 00:28:36,988 Speaker 8: the Bears organization. What that showed me is that's who 653 00:28:37,028 --> 00:28:39,828 Speaker 8: he is, right. He is a genuinely good guy, and 654 00:28:39,868 --> 00:28:42,308 Speaker 8: that's the type of energy that he brings. It causes 655 00:28:42,348 --> 00:28:44,828 Speaker 8: an environment where his team buys into him. You can't 656 00:28:44,868 --> 00:28:47,788 Speaker 8: instill a culture, a winning culture as fast as he 657 00:28:47,908 --> 00:28:51,508 Speaker 8: has unless teams or unless your team is brought into you. Now, 658 00:28:51,868 --> 00:28:54,628 Speaker 8: the other stuff, the stats that's obvious, right. We know 659 00:28:54,708 --> 00:28:57,028 Speaker 8: that they were much better football team, a much better 660 00:28:57,068 --> 00:28:58,788 Speaker 8: offense than they've been in the past. But what I 661 00:28:58,868 --> 00:29:00,948 Speaker 8: like about him is how quickly he's been able to 662 00:29:01,028 --> 00:29:03,548 Speaker 8: change the culture. The Bears have not had a winning 663 00:29:03,588 --> 00:29:08,548 Speaker 8: culture years, in fact, very much a losing culture for years, 664 00:29:08,748 --> 00:29:12,108 Speaker 8: and then he came in and completely switched everything. Mike, 665 00:29:12,148 --> 00:29:13,748 Speaker 8: I want to know what you think about this, hopefully, 666 00:29:13,868 --> 00:29:15,948 Speaker 8: say Ben Johnson, No, because we should always talking about man. 667 00:29:17,548 --> 00:29:19,188 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you don't. You don't want to know, and 668 00:29:19,188 --> 00:29:19,868 Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. 669 00:29:19,908 --> 00:29:22,588 Speaker 6: Because when you're on this program, you got to speak 670 00:29:22,628 --> 00:29:25,108 Speaker 6: passionately about a lot of things, and sometimes you kind 671 00:29:25,108 --> 00:29:27,108 Speaker 6: of sort of manufacture it. There's no man, I have 672 00:29:27,188 --> 00:29:29,868 Speaker 6: got Coach of the Year takes. I feel extremely passionate 673 00:29:29,908 --> 00:29:34,388 Speaker 6: about this one. Oh some of the Okay, so a 674 00:29:34,388 --> 00:29:37,268 Speaker 6: lot of times we lean toward the guys that are 675 00:29:37,308 --> 00:29:40,868 Speaker 6: working with nothing or working with a team that hasn't 676 00:29:40,908 --> 00:29:44,468 Speaker 6: been successful, and the problem is guys that do a 677 00:29:44,468 --> 00:29:46,788 Speaker 6: great job for teams that have been get penalized. Do 678 00:29:46,788 --> 00:29:49,228 Speaker 6: you know how many times Andy Reid arguably one of 679 00:29:49,268 --> 00:29:52,788 Speaker 6: the greatest coaches of our generation, not arguably one of, 680 00:29:52,868 --> 00:29:56,148 Speaker 6: but arguably the best one time. Two thousand and two 681 00:29:56,188 --> 00:29:58,348 Speaker 6: is the last time that Andy Reid won the AP 682 00:29:58,548 --> 00:30:01,068 Speaker 6: Coach of the Year. Something's off here, right, So I'm 683 00:30:01,148 --> 00:30:03,668 Speaker 6: leaning towards Kyle Shanahan here, and I understand that Ben 684 00:30:03,788 --> 00:30:06,628 Speaker 6: Johnson is building something there and he's creating. 685 00:30:06,348 --> 00:30:07,468 Speaker 2: A culture and all this stuff. 686 00:30:07,668 --> 00:30:10,068 Speaker 6: Kyle Shanahan did not have a starting quarterback for an 687 00:30:10,108 --> 00:30:13,708 Speaker 6: extended period a couple of extended periods this year. His 688 00:30:13,948 --> 00:30:18,388 Speaker 6: two best defensive players, we're talking all Pro caliber players 689 00:30:18,788 --> 00:30:20,908 Speaker 6: unavailable to him for most of the season. Here we'll 690 00:30:20,908 --> 00:30:22,908 Speaker 6: say about Fred Waner if he can make his way back. 691 00:30:23,268 --> 00:30:26,828 Speaker 6: His alleged number one wide receiver hadn't been in the 692 00:30:26,868 --> 00:30:28,308 Speaker 6: building for a month. 693 00:30:28,108 --> 00:30:31,868 Speaker 2: Before they put him on the left squad list. I 694 00:30:32,028 --> 00:30:34,188 Speaker 2: just like, how do you not look at the. 695 00:30:34,188 --> 00:30:37,108 Speaker 6: Job that Kyle Shanahan has done in a division that 696 00:30:37,228 --> 00:30:40,508 Speaker 6: is incredibly competitive, and he's got a path. 697 00:30:40,268 --> 00:30:43,908 Speaker 2: To the number one seed Right now? To me, I've 698 00:30:43,908 --> 00:30:44,788 Speaker 2: got to vote. 699 00:30:44,548 --> 00:30:47,788 Speaker 6: And right now it's going to Kyle Shanahan, and really 700 00:30:47,868 --> 00:30:49,828 Speaker 6: like he should give a piece to Robert Sala as 701 00:30:49,828 --> 00:30:51,988 Speaker 6: well for what he has done with an incredibly young. 702 00:30:51,828 --> 00:30:56,348 Speaker 5: Defense, solid against some sort of assistant of the year too. 703 00:30:56,388 --> 00:30:58,028 Speaker 5: I don't know if Philip Rivers just shredded that the 704 00:30:58,028 --> 00:30:59,388 Speaker 5: other night, who was a forty four year old guy 705 00:30:59,388 --> 00:31:05,068 Speaker 5: who's never played from phil guys. I'm like you, I 706 00:31:05,108 --> 00:31:08,068 Speaker 5: am uncharacteristically excited for Coach of the Year because it's 707 00:31:08,068 --> 00:31:10,988 Speaker 5: the best year I can remember. Here's why. Any other 708 00:31:11,068 --> 00:31:13,388 Speaker 5: year it's Mike Frables and we don't even have a 709 00:31:13,388 --> 00:31:16,428 Speaker 5: segment about it. It's set, it's done. Any other year 710 00:31:16,468 --> 00:31:19,028 Speaker 5: it's Ben Johnson's. We don't need to discuss it. Any 711 00:31:19,068 --> 00:31:22,868 Speaker 5: other year it's Liam Cohen's. Obviously, it's Liam Cohen who's 712 00:31:22,908 --> 00:31:26,108 Speaker 5: doing all of this and winning and beating the Chiefs 713 00:31:26,228 --> 00:31:29,108 Speaker 5: and beating the Broncos without their entire plan. For this year, 714 00:31:29,108 --> 00:31:31,228 Speaker 5: who was Travis Hunter who got hurt? Any other year 715 00:31:31,268 --> 00:31:34,468 Speaker 5: it's Dave Canalis. Any other year it's Mike McDonald. There's 716 00:31:34,548 --> 00:31:37,668 Speaker 5: so many candidates, and yet Mike Gerfolo. I agree with you. 717 00:31:37,708 --> 00:31:39,628 Speaker 5: I think it's so cool Kyle Shanahan has done. If 718 00:31:39,628 --> 00:31:43,468 Speaker 5: we can just break the archetype of taking over a 719 00:31:43,508 --> 00:31:46,068 Speaker 5: really terrible team and taking them from two wins to 720 00:31:46,148 --> 00:31:48,508 Speaker 5: eleven or something, which is awesome. I haven't don't have 721 00:31:48,548 --> 00:31:50,628 Speaker 5: any problem with that. Most Coach of the Years follow 722 00:31:50,708 --> 00:31:53,108 Speaker 5: that this Coach of the Year this year probably will. 723 00:31:53,588 --> 00:31:55,948 Speaker 5: Mike and I both have votes for this award. I 724 00:31:56,028 --> 00:31:58,788 Speaker 5: don't know who I'm voting for, but there's a huge 725 00:31:58,908 --> 00:32:01,548 Speaker 5: part of me that wants to vote for Kyle because 726 00:32:01,588 --> 00:32:03,748 Speaker 5: it's different, and this is a guy who has been 727 00:32:03,748 --> 00:32:05,748 Speaker 5: to two Super as head coach, and I think this 728 00:32:05,788 --> 00:32:08,588 Speaker 5: is his best coaching of his career. So I got 729 00:32:08,668 --> 00:32:10,108 Speaker 5: my vote. I'm not telling you who I'm going to 730 00:32:10,148 --> 00:32:11,348 Speaker 5: give it to because I don't know yet, but I 731 00:32:11,348 --> 00:32:13,228 Speaker 5: wouldice to give it to Kyle Shanahan. 732 00:32:13,588 --> 00:32:15,428 Speaker 6: Kyle, it's a tough one. And I say this all 733 00:32:15,468 --> 00:32:19,668 Speaker 6: the time. Uh, the thirty second best, Uh, the worst 734 00:32:19,668 --> 00:32:22,028 Speaker 6: coach in the NFL is still the thirty second best 735 00:32:22,068 --> 00:32:24,188 Speaker 6: in the world at what he does. I mean college 736 00:32:24,188 --> 00:32:26,308 Speaker 6: and guys that are you get what I'm saying. It's 737 00:32:26,308 --> 00:32:28,588 Speaker 6: a really hard job and there are a lot of 738 00:32:28,588 --> 00:32:30,508 Speaker 6: guys every year that are deserving of it, and you 739 00:32:30,548 --> 00:32:34,148 Speaker 6: should never vote with the future in mind. But I 740 00:32:34,188 --> 00:32:37,388 Speaker 6: feel like we get some award winners here in this 741 00:32:37,468 --> 00:32:39,948 Speaker 6: category that wind up getting fired or maybe aren't as 742 00:32:39,948 --> 00:32:42,708 Speaker 6: successful because we wind up leaning towards the oh the 743 00:32:42,828 --> 00:32:45,748 Speaker 6: two to ten instead of, Hey, Kyle Shanahan's a guy 744 00:32:45,788 --> 00:32:47,508 Speaker 6: that's done it for a long time, and it's gonna 745 00:32:47,508 --> 00:32:48,868 Speaker 6: do it for a long time as well. 746 00:32:49,468 --> 00:32:52,108 Speaker 3: Yes, a couple of weeks ago, right, Kyle, maybe two 747 00:32:52,188 --> 00:32:54,708 Speaker 3: wish months ago, you thought Kyle Shanahan was screaming into 748 00:32:54,748 --> 00:32:58,148 Speaker 3: his pillow because he had so many injuries. It's almost 749 00:32:58,228 --> 00:33:01,508 Speaker 3: like San Francisco is quietly eleven and four, if that 750 00:33:01,668 --> 00:33:04,108 Speaker 3: makes any sense. Can't wait to see how well, if 751 00:33:04,108 --> 00:33:06,308 Speaker 3: you guys can let us know maybe someday, how you 752 00:33:06,388 --> 00:33:08,908 Speaker 3: vote for that one. Now for our third topic for 753 00:33:08,988 --> 00:33:12,748 Speaker 3: Throwdown Festive, the most important question we're going to ask 754 00:33:12,748 --> 00:33:14,188 Speaker 3: to you all day. 755 00:33:14,388 --> 00:33:17,348 Speaker 4: Are you ready? Who is a better Christmas performer? 756 00:33:18,068 --> 00:33:23,228 Speaker 3: Is it Kelly Clarkson or is it Mariah Carey? Again, 757 00:33:23,268 --> 00:33:25,828 Speaker 3: the most important question we will ask here today. 758 00:33:26,268 --> 00:33:28,108 Speaker 8: I don't know why Bruce Springsteen's out on here. I'm 759 00:33:28,108 --> 00:33:29,228 Speaker 8: not going to make it a huge deal. I had 760 00:33:29,228 --> 00:33:30,628 Speaker 8: one of the best intros to. 761 00:33:30,628 --> 00:33:32,668 Speaker 7: His song of Literal all time. 762 00:33:33,028 --> 00:33:35,548 Speaker 8: But because I'm given the options that I have, I'm 763 00:33:35,548 --> 00:33:37,868 Speaker 8: gonna go with Mariah Carey. I mean, it's just it's 764 00:33:37,908 --> 00:33:40,228 Speaker 8: simply what you were raised with, what you heard for 765 00:33:40,468 --> 00:33:43,268 Speaker 8: Mariah has one of the best Christmas albums of all time. 766 00:33:44,188 --> 00:33:47,028 Speaker 8: I have no regrets in that answer. Mike G I mean, 767 00:33:47,068 --> 00:33:48,828 Speaker 8: what are you going to say? Are you a Kelly guy? 768 00:33:49,068 --> 00:33:51,948 Speaker 6: I respect Kelly, I appreciate what she's doing, and I 769 00:33:51,988 --> 00:33:55,308 Speaker 6: say what she's doing because it almost feels like Kelly 770 00:33:55,308 --> 00:33:56,828 Speaker 6: Clarkson is Patrick Mahomes. 771 00:33:56,828 --> 00:33:58,148 Speaker 2: He's starting to stack some rings. 772 00:33:58,148 --> 00:34:01,628 Speaker 6: But Mariah Carey is Tom Brady And will Kelly ever 773 00:34:01,828 --> 00:34:04,468 Speaker 6: catch Mariah like the Hey is in the barn and 774 00:34:04,508 --> 00:34:07,348 Speaker 6: from Mariah, Kelly's got to continue to make it happen here. 775 00:34:07,668 --> 00:34:09,668 Speaker 2: I'm going Mariah here, She's our Tom Brady. 776 00:34:09,748 --> 00:34:12,828 Speaker 5: Well, listen, you try to answer this question with full 777 00:34:12,868 --> 00:34:16,948 Speaker 5: respect for both women who are both legends. I feel like, really, 778 00:34:17,668 --> 00:34:20,668 Speaker 5: Whitney Houston was kind of the MJ, and then I 779 00:34:20,748 --> 00:34:25,428 Speaker 5: feel like maybe Mariah Carey is Kobe. I'm not sure 780 00:34:25,428 --> 00:34:27,428 Speaker 5: who Kelly Clarkson would be, but I can tell you this, 781 00:34:27,548 --> 00:34:29,748 Speaker 5: and I'm gonna say with my chest, I'll tell you 782 00:34:29,828 --> 00:34:32,788 Speaker 5: Key Clarkson is. She's my girl. That is always my 783 00:34:32,908 --> 00:34:37,068 Speaker 5: best season, non Christmas season. I'll tell you why. Super 784 00:34:37,188 --> 00:34:39,708 Speaker 5: up tempo, a little bit of a rock and roll edge. 785 00:34:39,788 --> 00:34:42,468 Speaker 5: Listen to her Run Run, Rudolph. It's awesome from start 786 00:34:42,508 --> 00:34:45,708 Speaker 5: to finish. Listen to her Underneath the Tree. In my opinion, 787 00:34:45,788 --> 00:34:48,668 Speaker 5: Underneath the Tree has taken over. All I Want for 788 00:34:48,748 --> 00:34:51,388 Speaker 5: Christmas is you as the number one Christmas jam. All 789 00:34:51,428 --> 00:34:54,068 Speaker 5: I Want for Christmas legendary song, Hang the Banner and 790 00:34:54,108 --> 00:34:56,988 Speaker 5: the Rafters, first ballot, Hall of Famer. I think a 791 00:34:56,988 --> 00:34:58,388 Speaker 5: little of us got to a point where it was 792 00:34:58,388 --> 00:35:00,268 Speaker 5: almost kind of like a joke. It's like, it's farce 793 00:35:00,348 --> 00:35:03,148 Speaker 5: this song. We've heard it too much. Kelly can sing, 794 00:35:03,268 --> 00:35:05,788 Speaker 5: she can rock, she can host. She's amazing. I've says 795 00:35:05,788 --> 00:35:08,708 Speaker 5: a thousand times. I got to meet Kelly clarkson NFL Honors. 796 00:35:08,948 --> 00:35:10,468 Speaker 5: She was like, Hey, you're the one was talking about 797 00:35:10,468 --> 00:35:11,988 Speaker 5: me on the morning show. I was like, and Dann right, 798 00:35:12,068 --> 00:35:18,428 Speaker 5: I was Kelly. I again, of course we all love Mariah. 799 00:35:18,508 --> 00:35:21,588 Speaker 5: Mariah is going on to God's gifts to singing. I 800 00:35:21,668 --> 00:35:24,348 Speaker 5: go Kelly, always Kelly, It's always wow. 801 00:35:24,508 --> 00:35:26,588 Speaker 3: I was almost waiting for the butt that you were 802 00:35:26,588 --> 00:35:28,428 Speaker 3: going to say, Mariah. I mean, All I Want for 803 00:35:28,508 --> 00:35:31,468 Speaker 3: Christmas came out in ninety four, which I know is 804 00:35:31,468 --> 00:35:31,988 Speaker 3: is your year. 805 00:35:32,068 --> 00:35:32,308 Speaker 2: Kyle. 806 00:35:32,388 --> 00:35:33,668 Speaker 4: I was uncertain. 807 00:35:34,508 --> 00:35:35,828 Speaker 5: I love All I Want for Christmas. 808 00:35:35,908 --> 00:35:36,068 Speaker 7: Is you. 809 00:35:36,748 --> 00:35:42,148 Speaker 5: It's I think we've got enough reps on that one. Guys. Yeah, yeah, 810 00:35:43,308 --> 00:35:44,348 Speaker 5: we're good for a while. 811 00:35:45,148 --> 00:35:47,108 Speaker 3: Oh man, all right, we need to get one more 812 00:35:47,108 --> 00:35:51,548 Speaker 3: opinion on this. NFL networker network insider Ian rapaport Ian. 813 00:35:52,148 --> 00:35:54,108 Speaker 3: I know we need to talk about quarterbacks, but these 814 00:35:54,148 --> 00:35:56,628 Speaker 3: are like quarterbacks of Christmas the Christmas songs. 815 00:35:56,948 --> 00:35:59,068 Speaker 4: Are you a Kelly guy or you Mariah? 816 00:35:59,108 --> 00:35:59,308 Speaker 2: Yeah? 817 00:35:59,428 --> 00:36:02,588 Speaker 9: First, I'm all Mariah all the time. Kelly Carson is 818 00:36:02,628 --> 00:36:03,108 Speaker 9: a great job. 819 00:36:03,148 --> 00:36:03,788 Speaker 2: I'm all Mariah. 820 00:36:03,788 --> 00:36:05,508 Speaker 9: I'll tell you the crazy thing about Mariah, and it 821 00:36:05,548 --> 00:36:07,828 Speaker 9: really doesn't have anything to do with Christmas, although I 822 00:36:07,868 --> 00:36:11,308 Speaker 9: know that was the question. She is famous and amazing 823 00:36:11,748 --> 00:36:15,228 Speaker 9: for two things which are sort of ancillary and also 824 00:36:15,468 --> 00:36:17,588 Speaker 9: sort of related to what you're talking about. Like obviously 825 00:36:17,628 --> 00:36:19,628 Speaker 9: she had plenty of hits in her real life. The 826 00:36:19,668 --> 00:36:22,908 Speaker 9: Christmas stuff is great, Yeah, greatest cover of all time 827 00:36:23,268 --> 00:36:26,268 Speaker 9: with I'll Be There, Absolutely, the greatest cover of all 828 00:36:26,268 --> 00:36:28,948 Speaker 9: time Killed, and then greatest remix of all time of 829 00:36:29,028 --> 00:36:30,188 Speaker 9: Fantasy with ODB. 830 00:36:30,508 --> 00:36:31,308 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my. 831 00:36:31,308 --> 00:36:34,348 Speaker 9: Owner the video was shot. I mean it's it's like 832 00:36:34,468 --> 00:36:37,228 Speaker 9: her main stuff is great, and then all the stuff 833 00:36:37,228 --> 00:36:39,428 Speaker 9: she kind of does on the side to add to 834 00:36:39,468 --> 00:36:41,868 Speaker 9: it are just the greatest of all time. I am 835 00:36:41,988 --> 00:36:46,228 Speaker 9: tea Mariah maybe the greatest singing voice in the history 836 00:36:46,268 --> 00:36:49,628 Speaker 9: of the world. I'm sure Kelly Clarkson is great, probably 837 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:51,228 Speaker 9: more like I could run into her on a red 838 00:36:51,228 --> 00:36:54,708 Speaker 9: carpet than Mariah. But I am full tea Mariah for 839 00:36:54,908 --> 00:36:55,748 Speaker 9: her entire. 840 00:36:55,588 --> 00:36:57,308 Speaker 3: Kind of don't tell yourself, sir, you never know you 841 00:36:57,388 --> 00:36:58,308 Speaker 3: might meet Mariah too. 842 00:36:58,948 --> 00:37:02,668 Speaker 5: Yes, well he did. Ian. I am so relieved because 843 00:37:02,708 --> 00:37:04,748 Speaker 5: I thought that the share is gonna t you up. 844 00:37:04,988 --> 00:37:06,508 Speaker 5: Is it Mariah or is it Kelly? 845 00:37:06,668 --> 00:37:06,788 Speaker 7: Right? 846 00:37:06,828 --> 00:37:08,308 Speaker 5: And I think they're gonna come and be like all 847 00:37:08,348 --> 00:37:10,908 Speaker 5: I listened to is Christmas in Hollis, So I thought 848 00:37:10,908 --> 00:37:14,388 Speaker 5: you were gonna go for that, which I I do 849 00:37:14,548 --> 00:37:18,188 Speaker 5: like that song. What's in the news? 850 00:37:18,268 --> 00:37:19,788 Speaker 4: Yeah, get us some actual quarterbacks? 851 00:37:20,148 --> 00:37:22,108 Speaker 9: All right, all right, alright, we'll get to the news 852 00:37:22,108 --> 00:37:24,908 Speaker 9: a little bit. We'll start with Lamar Jackson. Time will 853 00:37:24,908 --> 00:37:27,428 Speaker 9: tell if he ends up having a good Christmas on 854 00:37:27,588 --> 00:37:30,948 Speaker 9: the football field on Saturday, that is, when the Baltimore 855 00:37:31,028 --> 00:37:33,308 Speaker 9: Ravens played the Green Bay Packers, and I think it's 856 00:37:33,348 --> 00:37:36,348 Speaker 9: fair to say Lamar status is in doubt for that game. 857 00:37:36,388 --> 00:37:38,708 Speaker 9: He has not yet practiced this week dealing with a 858 00:37:38,788 --> 00:37:42,348 Speaker 9: serious back contusion, the kind of thing where you sort 859 00:37:42,388 --> 00:37:44,188 Speaker 9: of thought, maybe, all right, well, he was knocked out 860 00:37:44,228 --> 00:37:46,348 Speaker 9: of the last game against the New England Patriots, but 861 00:37:46,548 --> 00:37:48,428 Speaker 9: probably able to get on the practice field this week. 862 00:37:48,468 --> 00:37:51,548 Speaker 9: It has not happened yet, and if it hasn't happened yet, 863 00:37:51,588 --> 00:37:53,748 Speaker 9: hard to imagine it happens later today. But we will 864 00:37:53,788 --> 00:37:56,668 Speaker 9: hold out and see whether or not the former MVP 865 00:37:56,908 --> 00:37:59,068 Speaker 9: is on the field. If he cannot go, Tyler Snoop 866 00:37:59,148 --> 00:38:03,668 Speaker 9: Unley will be the starting quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens. Meanwhile, 867 00:38:03,708 --> 00:38:07,428 Speaker 9: Pittsburgh Steelers got some good news yesterday. Their star EDG TJ. 868 00:38:07,628 --> 00:38:10,388 Speaker 9: Watt was back on the practice field for the first 869 00:38:10,388 --> 00:38:13,708 Speaker 9: time in two weeks. He is dealing with the after 870 00:38:13,788 --> 00:38:17,228 Speaker 9: effects of having surgery on a partially collapse young long 871 00:38:17,668 --> 00:38:22,108 Speaker 9: following a dry kneedling session in the Steelers facility. If 872 00:38:22,148 --> 00:38:24,428 Speaker 9: he can bounce back today, then I would say he 873 00:38:24,468 --> 00:38:25,908 Speaker 9: should be good to go for the game. And this 874 00:38:25,988 --> 00:38:28,108 Speaker 9: really isn't a football thing. It's really more of a 875 00:38:28,388 --> 00:38:30,388 Speaker 9: he hasn't done anything for two weeks, how does his 876 00:38:30,428 --> 00:38:32,748 Speaker 9: body bounce back kind of thing? But the fact that 877 00:38:32,788 --> 00:38:35,948 Speaker 9: he is practicing is at least a good sign not 878 00:38:36,148 --> 00:38:39,548 Speaker 9: practicing for the Las Vegas Raiders, as Brock Bowers, their 879 00:38:40,268 --> 00:38:42,108 Speaker 9: star tight end not going to practice for the rest 880 00:38:42,108 --> 00:38:44,868 Speaker 9: of the season because he was placed on injured reserve 881 00:38:45,308 --> 00:38:48,748 Speaker 9: with a knee injury. That you know, he's battled all season, 882 00:38:49,188 --> 00:38:50,948 Speaker 9: and I think it's safe to say for the Las 883 00:38:51,068 --> 00:38:53,988 Speaker 9: Vegas Raiders, there are several things that go into this 884 00:38:54,068 --> 00:38:57,148 Speaker 9: decision to make sure that their star player is fully 885 00:38:57,188 --> 00:39:02,588 Speaker 9: healthy for twenty twenty six. Totally unrelated, totally unrelated. They're 886 00:39:02,628 --> 00:39:05,188 Speaker 9: in a battle for the number one overall pick this 887 00:39:05,308 --> 00:39:07,708 Speaker 9: Sunday against the New York Giants. If they lose, they 888 00:39:07,708 --> 00:39:12,508 Speaker 9: almost certainly get it. Again, these things are unrelated, but 889 00:39:12,588 --> 00:39:14,348 Speaker 9: they're not going to have their best player on the 890 00:39:14,388 --> 00:39:15,068 Speaker 9: field Sunday. 891 00:39:15,468 --> 00:39:17,868 Speaker 3: As we always look to the playoffs, there are further 892 00:39:17,908 --> 00:39:19,708 Speaker 3: things down in the calendar to look at, like draft 893 00:39:19,748 --> 00:39:22,108 Speaker 3: position and go back to Mariah. 894 00:39:22,228 --> 00:39:26,268 Speaker 4: You know, Mariah, you're on fire and that's you. You're 895 00:39:26,308 --> 00:39:28,388 Speaker 4: on fire today. We appreciate it. Merry Christmas to you, 896 00:39:28,428 --> 00:39:28,788 Speaker 4: my friend.