Speaker 1: Welcoup to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most
Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with
Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable
Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about high
Speaker 1: rain drops.
Speaker 2: Let's have a real conversation.
Speaker 1: Does that Claude and I do not prep what we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about?
Speaker 2: We do?
Speaker 1: We Actually, I literally have no idea what're they're about
Speaker 1: to say? So let's bring on the one the only
Speaker 1: dustin Raw.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah. I've been waiting for tonight.
Speaker 4: When I tell you I've been with I feel like
Speaker 4: Jennifer Lopez waiting for tonight. Oh okay, I've been waiting.
Speaker 4: God damn it. What's up?
Speaker 3: Blows you doing?
Speaker 2: You who needs no introduction? Apparently I'm so jealous.
Speaker 5: Everyone's getting so accept me, Carlos. You look like even
Speaker 5: one out all weekend. I look at that happy smile,
Speaker 5: so happy. I love it. I love it. Hey, I
Speaker 5: miss y'all, this is gonna be a great show.
Speaker 1: I am Wow, ladies, gentlemen, gays and bays. The moment
Speaker 1: you've all been waiting for. We are now going to
Speaker 1: get into the most explosive, highly anticipated episode, the most
Speaker 1: controversial episode probably in the history of the Real Housewives
Speaker 1: of Atlanta. This episode I watch with baited breath, and
Speaker 1: I watched it twice because I really the thing is
Speaker 1: that I watched it the first time and I was
Speaker 1: like watching it as like you know, Peyton, like what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen because we already know what happened. Then I
Speaker 1: watched it again to make sure that I was able
Speaker 1: to understand everything, and I did. So I want to
Speaker 1: get into it before we get into the moment that
Speaker 1: happened between Kenya and and brit and everything.
Speaker 2: That went down at Kenya. More hair Spa.
Speaker 1: I want to get into more Hairy Care, LaToya, Hobbs, all,
Speaker 1: the team twirl is the is in the chat. I
Speaker 1: love you guys, Okay, So look, I do want to
Speaker 1: first start off Claudia and Dustin. Kelly, I love you Kelly, Kelly.
Speaker 1: You are raining as my number one favorite newbie. But Kelly,
Speaker 1: baby doll. Angela Oakley is coming for your spot, and
Speaker 1: I'm just being Kelly. I love you, but I got
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Angela is coming for your spot, Kelly. Sorry,
Speaker 1: we'll see she surpasses you. But as of Doc Kelly,
Speaker 1: you are still Carlos.
Speaker 2: King's number one favorite newbie.
Speaker 1: Angela Oakley scenes when it comes to her daughter and Claudia,
Speaker 1: Dustin would love you to take take it from here.
Speaker 2: I just want to say that.
Speaker 1: I think Angela Oakley is such a natural and to
Speaker 1: see her talk to her daughter and to discuss things
Speaker 1: about going on in their dynamic, she is giving us
Speaker 1: great personal story and I am here for all of it.
Speaker 1: So get into Angela. Okay, Claudia and y'all agree with me,
Speaker 1: disagree with me. What are your thoughts on her?
Speaker 5: I think she's a great cast member being part of
Speaker 5: this group. I don't see her like leading her own show,
Speaker 5: but I see her as being a stand up star
Speaker 5: in an ensemble cast because she's not Rah rah rah.
Speaker 5: She's not there, but she's subtle about it. And like
Speaker 5: Dustin was saying, just now, we want to see real
Speaker 5: life stuff, and she plays right into that. And I
Speaker 5: don't think she's playing. That's why it's good. You could
Speaker 5: tell Charles kind of doesn't play ball with her sometimes
Speaker 5: and kind of throws her off. That's real. Sometimes in
Speaker 5: relationship you want your guy to be all fawning a
Speaker 5: little you. And he made the you know, not help
Speaker 5: when her gets up out of the truck or load
Speaker 5: the stuff up. He'll do stuff like that. But guess
Speaker 5: what real relationships are like that. And then we got
Speaker 5: the conversation with her daughter, and she didn't know that
Speaker 5: her daughter got married. It seemed like the cameras weren't
Speaker 5: even really there. The way her taught her daughter did
Speaker 5: not come off as performative. Her daughter came off like
Speaker 5: they were caught on camera, not like they were playing
Speaker 5: for camera. And I really liked, right, didn't it feel
Speaker 5: very very real? And you're like, damn, like y'all talk
Speaker 5: about some real shit. I like you doesn't get so
Speaker 5: sick and tired. And this is what kind of irritated
Speaker 5: me when I was in reality TV. Everybody acts like
Speaker 5: their life is always on ten. It's always a designer bag,
Speaker 5: it's always a har mess, it's always a top notch event,
Speaker 5: it's always Bentley's and rolls voices, and it's not some
Speaker 5: days it's real life stuff where you're mad you're Maddia
Speaker 5: daughter because she didn't tell you. Sometimes you think her
Speaker 5: daughter should share with your mom, her mom. That is
Speaker 5: what makes the average person who does not live like
Speaker 5: affluent like that want to rock with y'all and want
Speaker 5: to care about your People are not going to relate.
Speaker 5: And I would tell people on some other reality shows
Speaker 5: I worked on, stop you're playing above the heads of
Speaker 5: your viewers, Like, you can't assume everyone like that, that's
Speaker 5: unrelatable something of that stuff. But that family stuff is
Speaker 5: relable to everyone, no matter what income level you're on, Like,
Speaker 5: we can relate to that, and I liked it. I
Speaker 5: was here for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking further to the relatability piece that I think
Speaker 4: is Angela's superpower, right, they said, yeah, she is married
Speaker 4: to Charles Oakley, and if you're a person of a
Speaker 4: certain age, you know who the fuck Charles Oakley is,
Speaker 4: And if you know anything about sports, you do, so
Speaker 4: you know what that means for her to be his wife.
Speaker 4: And there are she has the quirks that make housewives
Speaker 4: memorable and that make us like certain housewives. Prime example,
Speaker 4: it's the little shit she does. She was washing her
Speaker 4: face and that scene in the bathroom, washing her face
Speaker 4: using a little pad or something, and she had her
Speaker 4: hair pulled back in a ponytail, like black woman. I
Speaker 4: got a mother, and my parents been married fifty five years,
Speaker 4: so I've seen my mother do this for a long time,
Speaker 4: pull her her hair back in that ponytail to wash
Speaker 4: her face and call my daddy while she's in the mirror.
Speaker 4: And it was something about the way Angela called Charles's
Speaker 4: name twice when she was washing her face. She said Charles,
Speaker 4: then she said Charles. She called him like that, the
Speaker 4: way she said Charles that second time. That's the kind
Speaker 4: of shit that endears us to a housewife. It's very natural,
Speaker 4: it's very real, it's very relatable, and I'm enjoying her.
Speaker 4: I'm enjoying this season overall. But yes, I agree with
Speaker 4: you that Kelly is a great, great force to be
Speaker 4: wrecking with on this cast. She is the stuff housewives
Speaker 4: are made of. And Angela Oakley is a very nice
Speaker 4: surprise for me as a viewer of this show. I'm
Speaker 4: thoroughly enjoying the two of them.
Speaker 5: Kelly was is fun and at one point I thought
Speaker 5: she was gonna be not fake. But like at first
Speaker 5: she sat down with Kenya and them with the other girls,
Speaker 5: and then when she went with her with Britt, she
Speaker 5: definitely showed her like loyalty to Britt, Like how she
Speaker 5: walked out of the event, and that's hard to do
Speaker 5: because you're knew you kind of want to you kind
Speaker 5: of got in with it. The olgi's like you, and
Speaker 5: like it showed that she has some about her. She's
Speaker 5: not a big stand on what she believes. She's not
Speaker 5: kind of going with the flow. She's not flippity floppity.
Speaker 5: She's kind of standing on something. And you know, I
Speaker 5: did like that about her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, she's short so she'd be looking up,
Speaker 4: but she know where she's.
Speaker 3: Going and I like that about her. I liked that
Speaker 3: about Kelly.
Speaker 4: That Kelly she's a good addition to this cast. So
Speaker 4: let's shoot the ship, right, since we got to talk
Speaker 4: about it, let's talk about it. I I like Bret sorry,
Speaker 4: and I feel like me liking.
Speaker 2: You have to apologize for that.
Speaker 4: I feel like me liking Kenya and wanting Kenya to
Speaker 4: still be a part of this cast, and me feeling
Speaker 4: like it was wrong that Kenya was released from the
Speaker 4: filming schedule.
Speaker 3: Me not agreeing with that does not mean.
Speaker 4: That I have to not appreciate what I think feel
Speaker 4: Britt Edie brings to this cast.
Speaker 3: So that's where let's.
Speaker 2: Get into it. Let's let's let's have real conversation.
Speaker 1: One thing about all of us is we're very honest,
Speaker 1: and we don't say the things that are popular for
Speaker 1: the court of public opinion to approve us.
Speaker 2: Right, we say what's real.
Speaker 1: And and one thing about all three of us, y'all, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all will catch on later that we're right, right, I said,
Speaker 1: I said day one. I like Britt, I like Kelly,
Speaker 1: I like Angela, I like all the new girls.
Speaker 2: I've known Shemir for years. I've always loved her.
Speaker 1: The thing with Britt is this, and I do like Britt,
Speaker 1: and I still like Britt, and I want to have
Speaker 1: real conversation. You can like somebody and it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you dislike the other person, and vice versa. So that's
Speaker 1: what it is. I think Britt is a great housewife.
Speaker 1: Now with that being said, let's get into the first
Speaker 1: scene with Britt, Shemiah, and Angela. I'm going to be
Speaker 1: honest how I felt. I felt Britt was performative in
Speaker 1: that scene. To me come across authentic.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't think. I didn't think the.
Speaker 1: I have been doing reality television for twenty years. Okay,
Speaker 1: put some respect on my name. I know what the
Speaker 1: fuck I'll be talking about. Y'all don't have to agree
Speaker 1: with me, and that's fine. I think it's fun with y'all.
Speaker 1: Don't because I ain't losing those sleep And if you
Speaker 1: and if you are a critical thinker, you would maybe
Speaker 1: sometimes be like he knows a little bit more than
Speaker 1: the average Joe.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: When I watched that scene between Shamiyah, Angela and Britt,
Speaker 1: and I like Britt and I and I think Britt's
Speaker 1: a great housewife. Again, it came across performative where I
Speaker 1: think Britt came into the scene feeling like she had
Speaker 1: to be apologetic. I believe because I've been doing I
Speaker 1: know how this should works. I believe some phone calls
Speaker 1: were made and Britt was They were like, girl, you boom.
Speaker 1: I did, but girl ain't a good look, and I
Speaker 1: think she had to Well, I don't want whatever I
Speaker 1: felt like Britt was trying to do damage control on
Speaker 1: the comment that she made right and I didn't buy it.
Speaker 1: I didn't buy it. I didn't buy it in that scene.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't did.
Speaker 1: I felt nothing and the work of Winnie Houston, I
Speaker 1: have nothing. I had nothing to feel. People Bryson fell
Speaker 1: the fire, I felt nothing. You know, changing faces stroked
Speaker 1: me up, struck me down. I wasn't stroked. I felt nothing.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel anything, and I did. I agree with you.
Speaker 5: I thought it was very fake and to me, it
Speaker 5: made me feel like she's not right for the show. Actually, okay,
Speaker 5: like we just praised Kelly for standing on business. If
Speaker 5: that's what you felt, then stand on that ship. Yeah
Speaker 5: I should have said that about a gun. I'm not
Speaker 5: sorry that I checked her because I don't like her.
Speaker 5: It's very obvious she is not like Kenya. Since day one,
Speaker 5: it's very obvious that she has been looking for a
Speaker 5: reason to go off, and at that dinner where Kenya
Speaker 5: gave her a hug and patter, which is not that
Speaker 5: big of a deal, gave her her excuse to be mad,
Speaker 5: be big mad. She got the phone calls because let
Speaker 5: me tell you this, well, not tell you this, because
Speaker 5: y'all know this. This is episode four, right, four or
Speaker 5: five five five, So this may have been shot pretty
Speaker 5: early on where you don't really know if you're solidified, right,
Speaker 5: because you don't really know. They film you, you're a
Speaker 5: new girl, you film, and then later on through filming,
Speaker 5: maybe she was still it wasn't all the way locked in, right, Carlos,
Speaker 5: Like you can be filming and then it's not locked in.
Speaker 5: So maybe it was like she was testing you want
Speaker 5: to be kept around here, play the game? Because it
Speaker 5: felt how were you so crunked for four episodes and
Speaker 5: all of a sudden it all like I've never seen
Speaker 5: anyone change their stances. We just talked to Heavenly, what
Speaker 5: twelve years they're still doing this same shit. You think
Speaker 5: someone in four episodes is really gonna have a change
Speaker 5: of heart. No, I think that was job security, which
Speaker 5: I get it, Britt. I'm not even like coming for
Speaker 5: you on that. I understand it's a great opportunity. You
Speaker 5: probably want to be on this for a long time.
Speaker 5: You got on. I get why you would do it,
Speaker 5: but it definitely felt like like fake, like I'm gonna
Speaker 5: say what I gotta say just to get through this,
Speaker 5: but I don't feel it.
Speaker 3: She could have been slicker about it. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: If you're gonna be performative, put on a show, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying that, And she did not do that.
Speaker 4: I think the body posturing while she was talking, when
Speaker 4: she was doing like this and saying I didn't I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, all of that shit, it was just it
Speaker 4: did not come off as genuine. I agree, And I
Speaker 4: feel like, so let's talk about what we were robbed of, right.
Speaker 4: I feel like, with Kenya making an exit this early
Speaker 4: in the season, we were robbed of an interesting ass.
Speaker 5: For you.
Speaker 4: Y'all want drama, y'all want fireworks, Let Britt and Kenya
Speaker 4: go at it for the whole damn season. I feel
Speaker 4: like we were robbed of that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I feel like brit as a newbie with a unique
Speaker 4: vocal tone, fashion sense, and enough balls to get into
Speaker 4: a verbal back and forth with somebody. She had the
Speaker 4: makings of a likable villain very early on in the season,
Speaker 4: and I think she just played her cards wrong. She
Speaker 4: came in way too high at the bank and she
Speaker 4: was starting shit with Kenya, and she actually gave Kenya
Speaker 4: an opportunity to be clean and look good. She gave
Speaker 4: Kenya an opportunity to ignore her, not feed into her antics,
Speaker 4: turn her back on her, and let her spiral out
Speaker 4: of control, which is exactly what happened when she became
Speaker 4: Yosemite brit and she started twirling them guns verbally, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, with her mouth and talking about
Speaker 4: pistols and shit. Kenya made her spiral by ignoring her,
Speaker 4: and that was disappointing to me. I'm like, damn, you
Speaker 4: a speaking to Whitney Houston. Didn't we almost have it all?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We almost had a good
Speaker 4: new motherfucker on the show. Who really could, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, be a beautiful and we just arrived
Speaker 4: at that, and I think it's going way too far.
Speaker 4: I think she was way out of line for talking
Speaker 4: about pistols. Kenya was way out of the line for
Speaker 4: showing the picture of her allegedly sucking dick. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: You can't do that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's it's just not.
Speaker 5: They were both dead ass wrong, and I know you
Speaker 5: expect me to sit up hear and just defend Kenya
Speaker 5: to that. I don't. I've never been like that. No,
Speaker 5: it was definitely wrong. It went too far, and it
Speaker 5: took a beautiful moment, like the way it was being
Speaker 5: set up and that event. How beautiful was Kenya with
Speaker 5: that banging dress?
Speaker 1: You were there, I was there, but that so I
Speaker 1: want I want to ask you this. That's fine, Claudia,
Speaker 1: Claudia if their defense, Claudia.
Speaker 5: I left, I left before that happened.
Speaker 2: I just off teeth. I do want to ask you this.
Speaker 1: You actually were president for Kenya Moore's hairspot grand opening, right,
Speaker 1: the celebration of this amazing brick and mortar that.
Speaker 2: She was able to do on her own, which is.
Speaker 3: A huge feet beautiful.
Speaker 2: You were there.
Speaker 1: Can you explain to us the temperature in the room
Speaker 1: while you were there, because obviously you're not on the show,
Speaker 1: so you don't know, like what the dynamics of everybody.
Speaker 1: But was the tension in the earth thick? Did you
Speaker 1: feel like something weird was going on or what? What
Speaker 1: did you see? Now my hindsight, you're like, oh, I
Speaker 1: now see why that was the crazy thing.
Speaker 5: There was no clues, there was no indication, it was
Speaker 5: none of that Kenya was pleasant. I didn't think that
Speaker 5: she was like wait for the next ten minutes, like
Speaker 5: stick around something, gave no hints, nothing, I mean, it
Speaker 5: was like all good vibes like I you know, I
Speaker 5: did not see it coming. I did not taken pictures
Speaker 5: like by the beautiful flower wall. It was none of that.
Speaker 5: So I'm just like when Kenya not let on at
Speaker 5: all at all, at all.
Speaker 4: I wasn't even there, and I feel the same way.
Speaker 4: It's so crazy because and I know I can't be
Speaker 4: the only person that feels like this, but it's like
Speaker 4: we know what happened, but we still don't know what happened.
Speaker 4: It still doesn't make sense to me, Like none of
Speaker 4: their few doesn't make sense. I just feel like we
Speaker 4: arrived at a conclusion.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: There was no there was no story built to introduce
Speaker 4: them as.
Speaker 3: Rival.
Speaker 4: There's just nothing. I just feel like they had a
Speaker 4: bad night and the next thing we know, it's dick
Speaker 4: sucking posters. So it just all I don't I just
Speaker 4: feel confused.
Speaker 3: About the whole situation.
Speaker 1: I think Porscha clocked it for listen. For me, I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: so we watched the scene where it was Porscha, Kelly
Speaker 1: and Kenya, and they were there to support Kenya as
Speaker 1: she was testing models for her events. When they started
Speaker 1: recapping what was happening with the night before with Angela
Speaker 1: Oakley's event, Brit saying the pistol thing, all those things.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people miss Porscha's point, and
Speaker 1: I want to address it because I felt like Porscha
Speaker 1: clocked it and I don't think people really clocked it
Speaker 1: the way Porsche did. And the moment Portia said this,
Speaker 1: I was like, finally somebody said it, and I'm paraphrase
Speaker 1: what Portia said, So please watch the show. But Porsche
Speaker 1: pretty much intimated that. Look, Brient watched the show. Brent
Speaker 1: knows who Kenya Moore is. Kenya Moore is one of
Speaker 1: the most iconic, legendary reality starts in the history of
Speaker 1: the world. Right, And it's okay to have preconceived notions
Speaker 1: going into the show. And the reason why I said
Speaker 1: it's okay, and hear me out when I say this,
Speaker 1: it's hard to walk into a show that you've watched
Speaker 1: without having it and anybody who says that if you
Speaker 1: haven't watched it, that's one thing Brit coming into this show.
Speaker 1: She clearly knew who Kenya Moore was, and we all
Speaker 1: have seen Kenya Moore clips Portia clocked it where she's like,
Speaker 1: I think Brit was like, I know what Kenya gives
Speaker 1: and that's not about to be me. And that's why
Speaker 1: I was saying last week, Brit Britt. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: I felt like Brett did not want to be the
Speaker 1: girl that Kenyamore read.
Speaker 2: Right, and she wanted to make that very clear.
Speaker 1: Kenya Moore clocked it last week, and that's why she said,
Speaker 1: you want a moment, because the reason why you're confused, Dustine,
Speaker 1: the reason why Claudia is confused, the reason why the
Speaker 1: six thousand people in this room are confused, and the
Speaker 1: reason why some of the audience is confused is because
Speaker 1: it went from zero to sixty in a matter of
Speaker 1: two seconds. And then Claudia clocked it earlier, which is
Speaker 1: like to be on a ten and to go down
Speaker 1: to a zero. I know how this works. And sometimes
Speaker 1: Claudia am I lying when when some of these girls
Speaker 1: are on the ten, it takes a week to get
Speaker 1: down to an eight and and and I think that's
Speaker 1: why it was hard for people to digest it, and
Speaker 1: I think that's the reason why we're so confused. But
Speaker 1: I think Portia clocked it, and I wanted to say that,
Speaker 1: and look, I think Kenya, in my opinion, I think
Speaker 1: Kenya knew that. Okay, this girl wants to establish her
Speaker 1: position on this show.
Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with that, right, Claudia.
Speaker 1: Is right in some cases, not all, butun in some
Speaker 1: you are kind of auditioning for a few months.
Speaker 2: Kenya Moore has said it publicly that she was.
Speaker 1: Season five, she was on the she was she was
Speaker 1: filming without being a housewife, and she was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now look, if y'all want me cold, I don't about
Speaker 1: it here. So I think you guys have to look
Speaker 1: at things like that. And that's why I want to
Speaker 1: least give brit some grace too, in terms of you
Speaker 1: have this big opportunity and you want to be able
Speaker 1: to solidify your position.
Speaker 5: But that was like such a trash way of doing it.
Speaker 5: Like you know what, I don't like. I don't like
Speaker 5: false confidence because leading up to that, you that bitch,
Speaker 5: you got the husband, you got this, you the baddie
Speaker 5: that's been doing videos since your high school, you got
Speaker 5: this that and the third, if you have confidence in
Speaker 5: yourself and you know you're dope, right, you shouldn't have
Speaker 5: to do all of that. You shouldn't have to like
Speaker 5: fight with this girl like that. Like Kenya, listen, Keny
Speaker 5: can be a lot of things, and she can run
Speaker 5: people the wrong way, and she can talk herself, and
Speaker 5: she can easily get under your skin. You know why.
Speaker 5: She's very smart and she's very patient, and she usually
Speaker 5: doesn't make these kind of miscalculations. That's why I'm actually
Speaker 5: kind of shocked that she did this. So it's like
Speaker 5: maybe she felt like, you know, amongst the new girls,
Speaker 5: like damn, I'm with the new batch of girls, but
Speaker 5: they just as bad, if not more, like and bad
Speaker 5: meaning good, you know what I mean. So let me
Speaker 5: just go, let me just go tip a tap with
Speaker 5: the queen. Maybe she thought she was like, you know,
Speaker 5: you know, people think that I came for Nani and
Speaker 5: that was what got me on, and I really didn't.
Speaker 5: It truly was in the moment, and that was an
Speaker 5: organic moment, and it going there with a preconceived notion
Speaker 5: or an agenda. It definitely felt from early on that
Speaker 5: she had an agenda, and that's what makes a whack.
Speaker 5: Going in with an agenda to me is just as
Speaker 5: whack is having a pre rehearsed read that is like,
Speaker 5: that is whack. That's like I'm gonna wait for the
Speaker 5: right moment to drop this, this, this, this, this, No,
Speaker 5: if you really are that bitch, that girl, you should
Speaker 5: be that confident that I'm smart, I'm quick, and i
Speaker 5: know how to clock shit and I'll be able to
Speaker 5: respond appropriately with the right amount of force in the moment,
Speaker 5: and that's what makes you a good housewife. Now you
Speaker 5: look unhinged. Now, you we don't even feel like I mean, yeah,
Speaker 5: it was fucked up what happened with Kenya, what Kenya
Speaker 5: did to brit but we I just don't really felt
Speaker 5: bad for either one of them now because they both
Speaker 5: kind of did some shit that was like too far.
Speaker 4: They did, And you're one hundred percent right about Britt
Speaker 4: just doing things for the sake of doing them, and
Speaker 4: it actually her behavior at the dinner at the bank
Speaker 4: contradicted what she expressed to Angela when they went for
Speaker 4: that walk, and she told her that, you know, I
Speaker 4: feel a certain energy from Kenya and basically, if she
Speaker 4: fuck with me again, I'm on her ass right. You
Speaker 4: can feel that way, but it doesn't mean you have
Speaker 4: to seek or pursue or look for an argument or
Speaker 4: a confrontation. You just wait until, hopefully it doesn't ever
Speaker 4: present itself. But you wait until someone has, you know,
Speaker 4: offended you in that way and you checked their ass.
Speaker 4: Kenya had done nothing to her, She said nothing offensive
Speaker 4: to her at that dinner. She was actually very pleasant
Speaker 4: with her, and so BRIT's behavior did appear unhensed and
Speaker 4: out of place and motivated by a desire to not
Speaker 4: get punked.
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna get me. I ain't gonna be the one,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: It felt like that, and that's never entertaining. When you
Speaker 4: could have just sat there, been cool with all these ladies.
Speaker 4: Look beautiful, she's gorgeous. She could have just looked beautiful.
Speaker 4: And if Kenya decided did present that energy, then it
Speaker 4: would have made sense to the viewers for her to
Speaker 4: meet her at that level and let the chips fall
Speaker 4: where they may. But Britt was on one, she was
Speaker 4: turned up, and unfortunately this is where it ended. I
Speaker 4: don't think Kenya should have been suspended. I don't think
Speaker 4: what she did warranted being removed from the cast. Now,
Speaker 4: I wasn't sucking dick on the posters, so maybe it's
Speaker 4: not up to me, you know what I'm saying to
Speaker 4: say that, But I don't feel like what she did.
Speaker 3: We didn't see the picture as viewers.
Speaker 4: The people that were there saw it, So I'm sure
Speaker 4: that was terrible for her, and I can't speak to
Speaker 4: what that means to her. But as far as the
Speaker 4: shit that these women have done to each other on
Speaker 4: this show up until now, a lot of other terrible
Speaker 4: things have happened and we haven't seen people lose their
Speaker 4: jobs over it. So I felt like that was a
Speaker 4: little misaligned. And I hope to see Kenya hopefully at
Speaker 4: the reunion and back on the cast next season so
Speaker 4: we can watch the story forward unplayed. Don't get to
Speaker 4: see what happened, We don't get to see them figure
Speaker 4: it out. We didn't get to see either one of
Speaker 4: them be accountable for their actions for real, for real.
Speaker 4: So hopefully we get to see Kenya at the reunion
Speaker 4: and we get to watch their story play out fully
Speaker 4: next season. That's my hope.
Speaker 5: Can I give advice to anyone that wants to do television?
Speaker 5: I know I'm not like I was a one season person,
Speaker 5: but I don't care about that. I know television, and
Speaker 5: I know human nature, and I know I'm intelligent. No
Speaker 5: housewife has ever become iconic from anything physical or threatening someone.
Speaker 5: You are iconic when you have some measure of restraint,
Speaker 5: when you murder with your words, by looking fabulous, not
Speaker 5: cussing someone out and being rah rah and go and
Speaker 5: going low. When you can look gorgeous, wealthy, affluent, classy,
Speaker 5: but say some shit that gets to your soul and
Speaker 5: gets you together, those are iconic. Or when you're fun,
Speaker 5: like we're still saying leaks the ghetto, like we still
Speaker 5: saying that, we still talk about white refrigerators, we still
Speaker 5: talk about a lot of the other reason that people
Speaker 5: have said, like who said that or whatever? Like you
Speaker 5: know all those things, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 5: because those were like those are memorable moments. We don't
Speaker 5: talk about horse or dragon Can you buy her hair?
Speaker 5: Because that was violent. That was a dark spot in
Speaker 5: the history of house spots. We're not gonna talk about
Speaker 5: Britney much longer after this, after we get through the season,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a dark spot on the history of
Speaker 5: the franchise. It's going to be the cute moments that
Speaker 5: we can repeat amongst our friends in our group chats.
Speaker 5: That's what makes you an iconic housewife. We want to
Speaker 5: have fun and be able to repeat some of your lines.
Speaker 5: Ain't no one want to repeat where's my pistol? Wear
Speaker 5: my whips? And no one's gonna want to repeat putting
Speaker 5: someone's dick sucking pitches on the poster either, So I'm
Speaker 5: gonna keep it fair. I wish they would get back
Speaker 5: to knowing, like the things that are memorable are when
Speaker 5: they have they lasted upon you, but they also exercise
Speaker 5: some restraint when you know, a bitch could whoop you ass,
Speaker 5: but she whipped your ass with her words.
Speaker 4: I also didn't understand how somebody got to if somebody
Speaker 4: said they're gonna shoot you, wouldn't posting pictures of them
Speaker 4: sucking dick make them want to shoot you some more?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I don't. I just don't
Speaker 4: understand how that was. That was the defense move, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just think it was. It just didn't make sense
Speaker 3: to me, And I.
Speaker 2: Mean, listen, it's the reason why.
Speaker 1: As I was watching the episode and I wanted to
Speaker 1: watch it twice.
Speaker 2: And you know, when the when the event.
Speaker 1: Started, you're seeing like the spotous, gorgeous, right beautiful, and
Speaker 1: it looks beautiful.
Speaker 2: And one of the things that.
Speaker 1: I even took like, wow, this is great is the
Speaker 1: fact that everybody did show up to support her, because
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of those things don't happen. So
Speaker 1: we see Kelly and Britt arrive together. I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: by saying this, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Finish it later.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Kelly was the MVP in this episode
Speaker 1: code because that's the type of friend you want, you know,
Speaker 1: like like Kelly, it's some listen the movie, there's something
Speaker 1: about Mary.
Speaker 2: There is something.
Speaker 1: About Kelly where I just feel like she's so natural
Speaker 1: and everything Kelly has done so far this season as
Speaker 1: a human being when it comes to my friends, I
Speaker 1: would have done the same thing in terms of like
Speaker 1: having their back and being supportive when you felt like
Speaker 1: your friend was being was being read, whatever the case
Speaker 1: may be.
Speaker 2: So anyway, have to.
Speaker 1: Say, looking at Kingya's event, a lot of the comments
Speaker 1: are saying this that it's a shame that it happened
Speaker 1: at her event due to the celebratory nature of what
Speaker 1: the accomplishment means. You've said it, Claudia said it, I've
Speaker 1: said it. There's nobody saying what Kenya did was right.
Speaker 1: We all collectively have said it last week, and we'll
Speaker 1: say it again this week, and I'll say it. What
Speaker 1: Kenya did was not okay. It was wrong. It was
Speaker 1: unfortunate right. Two wrongs do not make a right. I
Speaker 1: said what brit said is wrong. What Kenya did is wrong.
Speaker 1: Two wrongs do not make a right. I wish Kenya
Speaker 1: would have given her a read that would have, like
Speaker 1: Claudia said, solidified the force multiplier that she is right
Speaker 1: in a perfect world. I think that should have taken place.
Speaker 1: Kenya Moore herself has said on tammeron Hall that.
Speaker 2: She was wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't see why people listen if the person who
Speaker 1: did it is saying I was wrong and I should
Speaker 1: have done something better. I don't think it's I don't
Speaker 1: think it's bad for anyone else to be like, we
Speaker 1: agree with you. It was a bad thing to do.
Speaker 1: Based on what occurred and based on what led up
Speaker 1: to it, it's evident that when it comes to King's
Speaker 1: placed on the show, she is somebody that is irreplaceable.
Speaker 1: When it comes to what the network decided to do.
Speaker 1: I tell people this all the time. No one believes
Speaker 1: me because it is what it is. The dismissal of
Speaker 1: anybody is at the hands of the network. We don't
Speaker 1: have Carlos King producers, production companies, We don't have a
Speaker 1: say on the power to hi or fire anybody. Everything
Speaker 1: is at the hands We can give our opinion with anything,
Speaker 1: right Claudia. I've said this story before. I fought for Clauda.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want her in the name.
Speaker 1: Ultimately, it's not my decision, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But I can have a point of view because I'm
Speaker 1: respected in this game. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the network and they said it on the title card.
Speaker 1: They and it's say the production company and a name producers.
Speaker 1: It says the network decided to not move forward with
Speaker 1: continuing the filming with Kenya.
Speaker 2: It was their decision.
Speaker 1: I don't have a say in it. That's how the
Speaker 1: business does work, and you guys are seeing that again
Speaker 1: what I say is true. But anyways, when it comes
Speaker 1: to but I want to ask the two of you this,
Speaker 1: when it comes to Kenya's actions, Listen let's have a
Speaker 1: real conversation. Based on what I've seen on social media,
Speaker 1: it is split think she deserved to be removed of
Speaker 1: her duties. There's fifty percent who believed she shouldn't have been.
Speaker 1: Where do the two of you lie within that? Do
Speaker 1: you think that should have been the case?
Speaker 5: Thank you, sweethearts. Do I think she had been she'd
Speaker 5: been taken off?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 5: I don't because this is what I'm gonna say about
Speaker 5: Kenya when I look at her history on the franchise,
Speaker 5: Kenya has been at the receiving end of a lot
Speaker 5: of foul shit that other people were kicked off for.
Speaker 5: Kenya has every right to be a little paranoid about
Speaker 5: threats of violence when she was beat up on the
Speaker 5: show and no one really did nothing, And you know,
Speaker 5: I know people are watching tonight, and I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: that's what I think. Like if I it's much like
Speaker 5: I feel like Mimi feels like she's like, when am
Speaker 5: I gonna win on this show? When am I going
Speaker 5: to get the edit? When am I going to get
Speaker 5: the protection? When am I when is it going to
Speaker 5: be like protect Kenya? So she's had a deal with
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff that has come to lean on
Speaker 5: her doorstep and deal with it and play good and
Speaker 5: still play along with everybody else. And she did, and
Speaker 5: she did. Now you can make it argument and say
Speaker 5: she deserves some of that smoke for her mouth. I
Speaker 5: said earlier, it should never resort to violence on This
Speaker 5: is the Housewives. It is not really love and hip hop,
Speaker 5: This is not Zeus. So you should be able to
Speaker 5: have a talk the biggest shit on the show and
Speaker 5: not get you asked beat on the show, and not
Speaker 5: have someone threatened you with a weapon. So I will
Speaker 5: say she's been on the receiving end and she's had
Speaker 5: to deal with a lot. Now, if you don't like her,
Speaker 5: you're gonna say, well, it's a bit deserved it because
Speaker 5: she runs her mouth. If you do have some kind
Speaker 5: of grace or you can say, think of things like
Speaker 5: and take it, take it personal feelings out out of it.
Speaker 5: You could say, you know what, I could see how
Speaker 5: she might snap eventually, Keenya has been dragged and embarrassed
Speaker 5: in a in a gown in a reunion in front
Speaker 5: of millions of people, and how to keep quiet about
Speaker 5: it for a very long time. So with that thing said,
Speaker 5: I could see why she would overreact to a talk
Speaker 5: of a gun, threats of a gun, all that kind
Speaker 5: of stuff. I can see how that would be. Doesn't
Speaker 5: make it right, no one, No, the I hate for
Speaker 5: her that is brilliant and smart as calculating how she is.
Speaker 5: That she let a newbie get her jammed up where
Speaker 5: she lost her position and the newbie still on the show.
Speaker 5: That's the tragic the end, that that that opening in
Speaker 5: her salon was so beautiful and now it's forever marred
Speaker 5: with that night and it's not going to help your business.
Speaker 5: Like I felt when when Brittany came up to her,
Speaker 5: even if the apology to me was kind of fake, right,
Speaker 5: it was like scrambling grasping for straw at straw to
Speaker 5: keep her job. I thought for a moment like, damn, Ken,
Speaker 5: you could go that was the moment. You could go
Speaker 5: left right now and say you know what, let me
Speaker 5: abort my plan, or let me go right and just
Speaker 5: stay fucking and do it anyways. And when she stuck
Speaker 5: with it, I'm like, damn it. I would rather have
Speaker 5: seen her, like Carlos said, get her together verbally. It
Speaker 5: would have been such an iconic season with those two
Speaker 5: going back and forth. If no more gun threats were made,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, it would have been we
Speaker 5: got deprived, we lost seeing an epic battle, and Brittany
Speaker 5: would have been elevated to not Kenya's level, but she
Speaker 5: would have been elevated. And I think now she kind
Speaker 5: of goes down, no pun intended, no pun intended, but
Speaker 5: her value goes down on the show.
Speaker 2: Chow, we are just getting started.
Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 4: I thought that, okay, So I think a couple of
Speaker 4: things happened right. Number one, britt was absolutely doing damage control,
Speaker 4: and that's why those apologies, the conversation in Smia's home,
Speaker 4: none of that, you know, read as believable to me,
Speaker 4: even some of the way that she was speaking with
Speaker 4: Kelly when they were in that sprinter ride, which I
Speaker 4: loved the fact that Kelly picked her up in that
Speaker 4: sprinter and they had champagne. We're getting back to the
Speaker 4: things that make Real Housewives of Atlanta feel like real
Speaker 4: Housewives of Atlanta. But I didn't believe Bridg's disposition the
Speaker 4: car either. To me, she was obviously playing to trying
Speaker 4: to create a certain perception of herself and trying to
Speaker 4: appear remorseful, you know what I mean, But it just
Speaker 4: wasn't authentic. I also think this. I keep hearing a
Speaker 4: conversation about the fact that people feel like Kenya may
Speaker 4: have missed opportunity to make the focus of the night
Speaker 4: her salon and the opening of it. I think that
Speaker 4: Kenya was trying to do just that by pulling that
Speaker 4: stunt at the opening of her hairspot. I think she
Speaker 4: presumed and assumed that that was going to be an
Speaker 4: iconic Housewives of of Atlanta moment that would be for
Speaker 4: remembered forever when she got britz ass. But it backfired
Speaker 4: in the worst possible way. It took the focus completely
Speaker 4: off of her salon and on the stupid shit that
Speaker 4: she did in response to Britz Antics.
Speaker 3: And it was just sad to see. I like both
Speaker 3: of these ladies.
Speaker 4: Kenya Moore is, without a doubt, a big part and
Speaker 4: a big reason that we and watch and talk about
Speaker 4: this show to this day. She came on that show
Speaker 4: in season five and changed it forever. We can't argue
Speaker 4: about that. I didn't want to see her go out
Speaker 4: this way.
Speaker 3: My hope. We can't do nothing we can't go back and.
Speaker 4: Put her in the damn episodes, right, So my hope
Speaker 4: is that listen her and Bravo the powers that we
Speaker 4: can have some sort of converse sation. She can end
Speaker 4: up at the reunion and back on the cast, receiving
Speaker 4: season seventeen, so we can see this story play out.
Speaker 4: But to me, it's not helping matters when you're doing
Speaker 4: things like reposting an Ai picture of you with tape
Speaker 4: over your mouth that says justice for Kenya. That's not helping.
Speaker 4: That's not helping. You've been in the business too long, Kenya.
Speaker 4: You know how this works. Get like Nini said, get
Speaker 4: your team to help you out. Get the people on
Speaker 4: the phone that need to be on the phone to
Speaker 4: have a proper negotiation and a proper conversation with the
Speaker 4: powers that be to bring you back to this cast
Speaker 4: where you belong. Because I feel the absence of her
Speaker 4: in these episodes. I feel the absence of her confessional scenes.
Speaker 4: I feel the absence of scenes of her daughter, beautiful daughter,
Speaker 4: running around that house. We haven't seen the pools she
Speaker 4: put in our house. We ain't seen shit, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I can feel the void of her
Speaker 4: participation in the show, and it sucks. I wanted to
Speaker 4: see her and Porschau be friends. I wanted to see that.
Speaker 1: To pick it back off of that, when I saw
Speaker 1: her in port with Kelly, you know film as they
Speaker 1: were testing out the models. I love that scene the most.
Speaker 1: Their friendship there, They're the beginning of their friendship. That
Speaker 1: seemed to be so natural and they and I think
Speaker 1: they both understood, like how magical that the two women
Speaker 1: who came in season five are not the anchors of
Speaker 1: this show. Like that's something, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like like, if you look at sports, hey, Claudia, if
Speaker 1: you look at sports, it's sort of like the rookies
Speaker 1: having an opportunity to be in the starting five and
Speaker 1: leading the team, like and and I felt that those
Speaker 1: two women understood that assignment and was like, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get along as long as we can because we know
Speaker 1: how this works.
Speaker 2: But I agree with you. I was looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: I do want to ask the two of you this
Speaker 1: when before I get to that, I at least want
Speaker 1: to have I want to lighten the mood a little bit.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about my favorite RuPaul drag Race moment
Speaker 1: that Kenya gave with yeah the dust, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: let me light up the mood up a little bit.
Speaker 1: I rewound that five times because I felt like Kenya
Speaker 1: was troiling her bathroom and it was like it was
Speaker 1: to me, it was it was so housewife like, noted.
Speaker 1: It was just like I mean coded, it was housewife
Speaker 1: codd what she did with the with the dust, Like
Speaker 1: I love that. I love the quote of Megan Thiss Stallion.
Speaker 1: I'm that bitch still that bitch, will forever be that bitch,
Speaker 1: Like I wish it was like just that because to me,
Speaker 1: it made me laugh and it just made me love
Speaker 1: her even more.
Speaker 5: And that's why she k like that's the kind of
Speaker 5: stuff that we missed about the Housewives, Like more of that,
Speaker 5: less of this ghetto shit that has been happening. And
Speaker 5: I want to say this about the friendship between Porscha
Speaker 5: and Kenya. See that feels real because it took years
Speaker 5: to get here, you know, basically, Britt try to force
Speaker 5: that like moment, like try to get the whole you know,
Speaker 5: one eighty in one episode. No, like there's been like
Speaker 5: I remember being at Kenya's baby shower and Porscha was
Speaker 5: there and we took a picture of all of us
Speaker 5: and I was like, damn, okay, that was the beginning.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't like great, great, but it was better
Speaker 5: and over the years. That is a real relationship. That's
Speaker 5: what makes reality shows good. When you have people that
Speaker 5: like you can show an evolution. They were at this point,
Speaker 5: they got to this point, and then they're slowly getting back.
Speaker 5: That's what happens in real life. And real life, you
Speaker 5: don't go to one lunch with someone and in your
Speaker 5: back best friends again because it's cameras on you, or
Speaker 5: because you want Andy Cohen to keep you on the series,
Speaker 5: Like get the fuck out of here with that, Like
Speaker 5: that was fake and she should have known better. And
Speaker 5: and really, if she really wanted to apologize to Kenya,
Speaker 5: I mean, she could have like told her purduce. She
Speaker 5: could have said, hey, let me let me call her
Speaker 5: and be like, listen, before we go on camera, I
Speaker 5: want you know that this is real and I'm not
Speaker 5: doing it from a moment because Keny's gonna clock that
Speaker 5: right away. Keny's gonna clock that you're trying to have
Speaker 5: this fake mama with me. It ain't real. I probably
Speaker 5: haven't heard from you since the gun thing, you probably
Speaker 5: did not try to reach out at all. So you're
Speaker 5: gonna do this at my event, so I can see
Speaker 5: why can you be like f that because I already
Speaker 5: got something for you now saying it was right because
Speaker 5: it still wasn't. But you got to just think about like,
Speaker 5: she knows the game, she's been there for a long time,
Speaker 5: and Britt, I don't know who gave her the advice
Speaker 5: that that would be a good idea. But if you
Speaker 5: pissed some one off and the first time they see
Speaker 5: it was on camera, they know you're just trying to
Speaker 5: control the scene. You're trying to get the scene, trying
Speaker 5: to get that moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it does.
Speaker 4: It makes no I'm not even gonna offer no commentary
Speaker 4: on the antics of it all.
Speaker 3: I'll just say feel fake.
Speaker 5: It's like your man just cheat on you. But it
Speaker 5: comes home with like some flowers and you're like, no,
Speaker 5: it's gonna take some more than that.
Speaker 3: And that's what I mean. We were robbed of all
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 4: We ain't seen none of that, no kind of We
Speaker 4: didn't see them talk through anything or work through anything,
Speaker 4: and it just feels very interrupted. As a viewer, right,
Speaker 4: it feels very like our viewering experience has been disrupted
Speaker 4: by Kenya's exit, as opposed to it making sense as
Speaker 4: to why she's off the show. Even with the view
Speaker 4: into the salon escapade that we saw, and even with
Speaker 4: the apology tour that britt attempted to start, it still
Speaker 4: feels incomplete. So again, we can't do nothing about the past.
Speaker 4: The show's in the can already and being there currently.
Speaker 4: I just hope that they bring Kenya to this reunion
Speaker 4: on the stage with the ladies in person, face to face,
Speaker 4: so that we can see this group of women talk
Speaker 4: that moment out. I really hope we get to see that.
Speaker 4: And I want Kenya back on the show. And what
Speaker 4: I want Kenya back on the cast full time.
Speaker 5: I do Brittany should Brittany should have not done that
Speaker 5: at Kenya's event, just like Kenya should have not done
Speaker 5: that at Hurry been sabotaging herself. But britt you should
Speaker 5: have reached out to her and had a one on
Speaker 5: one lunch if you may be supervised with Angela or
Speaker 5: someone that you trust and as a mediator, but that
Speaker 5: would show that listen, I really or again a side
Speaker 5: phone conversation I really mean this. I'm really sorry. I
Speaker 5: don't want to make this look like just a scene,
Speaker 5: just something where she could you know, she'd be able
Speaker 5: to tell she since here. But once she got to
Speaker 5: her event, Keny was paying her desk, she was like whatever,
Speaker 5: ignored the hell out of her because she had a
Speaker 5: mindset that she's about to ruin this girl. And then
Speaker 5: that's what happened at ruining herself unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and that's the thing.
Speaker 1: So and I want to get into that, because what
Speaker 1: no one is talking about that we will is the
Speaker 1: fact that not thinking all spiritual all Mother Night Live.
Speaker 1: But y'all know me, but God is in everything. And
Speaker 1: I was listen, and I'm being very honest, I say this,
Speaker 1: thank God Britt wasn't there. And I do mean that,
Speaker 1: the fact that she decided to leave based on Kenya
Speaker 1: paying her dust. I was happy that Brent was not
Speaker 1: subjected to seeing that, because I would not have wanted
Speaker 1: that for her, for you know, to deal with with
Speaker 1: seeing that.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm happy.
Speaker 1: I'm happy she wasn't able to see it herself. And
Speaker 1: and and again I'm I'm grateful and thankful that Brent
Speaker 1: had the sense to be like she's paying me dust
Speaker 1: let me leave, right. So I wanted to address that,
Speaker 1: because God forbid, she was there. I think I think
Speaker 1: this would be I'll just say this, This probably would
Speaker 1: have been a very different conversation. And I'll now now
Speaker 1: the other ladies were there, and I want to talk
Speaker 1: about this with you, guys.
Speaker 2: I want a friend like Kelly.
Speaker 1: I want a friend who was a friend to my
Speaker 1: faith and behind my back, you know, And I want
Speaker 1: I want, I want to really focus on the decision
Speaker 1: that Kelly made. Kelly has no issues with Kenya. Kelly
Speaker 1: was even there while Kenya was auditioning folks. Kelly saw
Speaker 1: one poster board and she said, I'm out. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not doing this. I will I'm not doing this.
Speaker 1: This is my girl. We came here together. You want
Speaker 1: a friend like Kelly. Now, unfortunately Kelly and are friends today,
Speaker 1: which we'll see what happens with that. But you want
Speaker 1: a friend like Kelly who did that so she left.
Speaker 2: The other ladies were watching what was going on.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the ladies reaction to it,
Speaker 1: because I know all well, I don't know all those girls.
Speaker 1: I know Portia and Cynthia so let me just be
Speaker 1: And yeah, I know those two.
Speaker 2: I know Porscha and Cynthia.
Speaker 1: Well, and I could tell that in their minds they
Speaker 1: were like, what is what is? What is this about
Speaker 1: to be? And Clauda, you weren't there at that moment.
Speaker 1: But when it came to the ladies' reactions, they all
Speaker 1: decided to leave and Cynthia stayed back. And I want
Speaker 1: to get into Cynthia because she's not only a friend
Speaker 1: of mine, she's the friends of y'all two. Cynthia was
Speaker 1: the only person who came up to Kenyon said baby,
Speaker 1: that ain't.
Speaker 2: It like You're better than this? I love you.
Speaker 1: I'll clark you tomorrow. But what did y'all think about
Speaker 1: the girl's reactions to this?
Speaker 5: They were right, they were right. You know, it's good
Speaker 5: to have friends that are ride to die, but are
Speaker 5: they really your friend if they don't tell you when
Speaker 5: you're wrong? You know what I mean? And I it
Speaker 5: wasn't a good look for Kenya and we know she
Speaker 5: can do so much better. I will say on a
Speaker 5: technical part of this, as far as the whole revenge point,
Speaker 5: is it true that those images were images that were
Speaker 5: already online on a movie that Britt made. Is that true?
Speaker 1: That's all a last I'll be honest with you. I
Speaker 1: don't know, and I've been very honest. I am a journalist,
Speaker 1: Hey Portsche, I am a journalist. I am not spending
Speaker 1: my time looking for I don't know. I think at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, what's wrong is wrong. But
Speaker 1: I don't Carlos King, I have no idea.
Speaker 5: I always want to think about what was in someone's mind.
Speaker 5: Because Kenye's smart, right, so for to like just find
Speaker 5: some pitches that were private to post some I don't
Speaker 5: think she'd be dumb enough to do that. I think
Speaker 5: they from what I've been hearing, I could be wrong.
Speaker 5: Those were images that were on the Internet already and
Speaker 5: she blew them up. And I'm thinking that's why maybe
Speaker 5: she thought, well, they're already out there. I'm not really
Speaker 5: committing that crime. But it's not being viewed like that.
Speaker 5: It's being viewed as it is revenge porn.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. I think.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where there's so many definitions.
Speaker 1: I'm not a lawyer.
Speaker 2: I don't have squire behind my last name.
Speaker 1: There's things that we all are discovering.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, that's illegal. That's legal.
Speaker 1: I I'm just saying I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: the definition, but I do want to say this. I
Speaker 1: always go back to what we saw. Yeah, the network
Speaker 1: did not say the RP word in terms of her dismissal.
Speaker 1: They didn't say that, right, The network, from my understanding,
Speaker 1: as of today at eight fifty one Eastern Stentar time,
Speaker 1: have not used that words as a cost for her dismissal.
Speaker 1: So that's that's And I'm not saying it is it.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it Isn't it. All I'm saying is
Speaker 1: based on what we saw as viewers, those words have
Speaker 1: not been used.
Speaker 5: Would it make a difference to it? Does it make
Speaker 5: a difference And I'm asking you to your opinion on this.
Speaker 5: If these are images that britt already had online as
Speaker 5: a cam girl, like if she was doing web that
Speaker 5: web point stuff and they were out there and ken
Speaker 5: you made copiism to embarrass her, is that that's not
Speaker 5: revenge point? Is that revenge porn? Do y'all know?
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't know the law.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm unclear with the law.
Speaker 4: And I actually don't even think that it was necessarily
Speaker 4: the issue. I think that whether it classified underneath that,
Speaker 4: underneath that, or a lot right, I think the issue
Speaker 4: is more so the violation of whatever code of conduct
Speaker 4: exists when it comes to nudity, shit like that, whatever.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Her behavior violated some sort of code of conduct and
Speaker 4: they chose and like they said, they used. Speaking of
Speaker 4: the language used, they said, due to Kenya's behavior.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the thing is this, and we all said this earlier.
Speaker 1: Wrong is wrong, right, regardless of the definition of word was.
Speaker 2: I think wrong is wrong.
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, to show
Speaker 1: it is just wrong. And again it's something that Kenya
Speaker 1: has admitted to it being wrong. But to answer your
Speaker 1: question was the valid question. I don't know the definition
Speaker 1: of what was going on, but wrong is wrong and
Speaker 1: that's that. But I do want to say this part
Speaker 1: about it too. Cynthia Belly is getting dragged on social media,
Speaker 1: and I do want to address that you two are
Speaker 1: friends with her.
Speaker 2: I'm friends with her as well.
Speaker 1: There is a discourse happening on social media as relates
Speaker 1: to Cynthia Bailey's comments, not only on the show, but
Speaker 1: what she has said in a recent interview, Kenya Moore
Speaker 1: and synth and Belly have not.
Speaker 2: Spoken since the incident.
Speaker 1: They have not spoken, and that's what Cynthia Bailly has said.
Speaker 1: Cynthia in some cases being called a good friend that
Speaker 1: a good friend tells you to your face, like girl,
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 2: This ain't it. Some people are saying Syntha's a flip flopper.
Speaker 1: They're they're they're using clips of Ninnis saying Cynthia blows
Speaker 1: with the wind, blows right. These are things people are
Speaker 1: saying online as two people who know synth and Billy
Speaker 1: very well, like I do.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: Do you think Cynthia Belly handled this the way as
Speaker 1: a friend that you would want her to.
Speaker 4: I was at Watch What Happens Live with Cynthia when
Speaker 4: she taped that episode. I heard everything she said about
Speaker 4: her current state of her friendship with Kenya. Cynthia expressed
Speaker 4: how much love she had for Kenya. She did make
Speaker 4: note of the fact that they haven't spoken since the incident,
Speaker 4: even though she has reached out several times to Kenya,
Speaker 4: and she also respected Kenya's space with that she got
Speaker 4: her grace. She said, Listen, Kenya's got a lot going on,
Speaker 4: and I understand that she maybe needs some space right now.
Speaker 4: She knows I love her and I'm here whenever she
Speaker 4: wants to talk. So she didn't go on television saying
Speaker 4: I ain't talked to Kenya. I don't fuck with Kenya,
Speaker 4: that I was fucked up what she did. No, she
Speaker 4: was a Cynthia. We've always seen her be all that shit.
Speaker 4: That conversation that people are having about Cynthia flip flopping again.
Speaker 3: You can't start a story in the middle.
Speaker 4: Let's not go back into the Housewives cannon and see
Speaker 4: all the times that Kenya tried to embarrass Cynthia on television,
Speaker 4: rolling the car window up in her face and shit,
Speaker 4: when Cynthia was trying to talk to her in that
Speaker 4: parking lot, antagonizing her and going way too far, cracking jokes.
Speaker 4: When they did dinner in the sky and she was
Speaker 4: questioning Cynthia Badger and heard them questions about her wine knowledge.
Speaker 4: When she was opening up the Bailey the wine cellar,
Speaker 4: the Bailey wine cellar. Let's not forget when Kenya almost
Speaker 4: spilled the beans and then played coy, did I do
Speaker 4: that and put her finger in the corner of her
Speaker 4: mouth when she alluded to and hinted at Cynthia's ex
Speaker 4: husband Mike proposing to her on camera. This is not
Speaker 4: a situation where Cynthia is just not being a good
Speaker 4: friend to Kenya. She was a great friend to Kenya.
Speaker 4: She kept it real in her face and told her
Speaker 4: in the moment, I love you. That was fucked up.
Speaker 4: I got your back, and I'm gonna talk to you later.
Speaker 4: She has never trashed Kenya behind this. She said she
Speaker 4: thought Kenya was above that and if that equates to
Speaker 4: a bad friend and some people, then so be it.
Speaker 4: But it don't equate to being a bad friend to me.
Speaker 4: And I'm biased as fuck because I love Cynthia in
Speaker 4: real life, So I'm not gonna you know, make no,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be clear about that. I'm on Cynthia's side.
Speaker 4: It's personal for me because I know she's a good person,
Speaker 4: she's a good friend. So I'm not even gonna play
Speaker 4: them games. It is what it is like. I love
Speaker 4: that's my friend. I do the same for any of
Speaker 4: my friends.
Speaker 2: So Dustin is so Detroit. I love him.
Speaker 1: Listen, Claudia, because a lot of people don't say it.
Speaker 1: I love it, dust is like, and at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, she's my friend, and I stay by
Speaker 1: like I love that dust it is. I will say
Speaker 1: this in real life, Dustin is a great friend, and
Speaker 1: you would want a friend like Dustin. Dustin rise for
Speaker 1: his friend. And Dustin will also tell you like that,
Speaker 1: ain't it that? Ain't it?
Speaker 2: So we'll go ahead.
Speaker 5: Claudia, I kind of don't really know. I feel like
Speaker 5: they've been off since they did Ultimate Girls Trip and
Speaker 5: I heard a little bit from Cynthia a little bit
Speaker 5: of Kenya, and I just don't know where it started.
Speaker 5: Because depending on who you talk to, you're gonna get
Speaker 5: a kind of a slightly different version of events, right
Speaker 5: and so, and that's another show I didn't watch. I'm
Speaker 5: just going by my personal conversations with them, like they've
Speaker 5: been off for a while. You know, It's like, depending
Speaker 5: on whose perspective is from, you can say that's wrong.
Speaker 5: You're you know, when you're talking to your friend and
Speaker 5: they tell you what someone did to them and you're like, man,
Speaker 5: fuck that bitch, Like, yeah, they they did your dirty.
Speaker 5: But then you talk to the other person and they
Speaker 5: tell you, well, this is what I felt went wrong.
Speaker 5: So it's like, damn, So I really don't know, but
Speaker 5: I do like, no matter what if if Cynthia really
Speaker 5: feels this way about Kenya or not publicly, she's she
Speaker 5: is like presenting like you know, it's like she's not
Speaker 5: trying to like throw her on the bus, like she's like,
Speaker 5: I don't like it, but she still said she did
Speaker 5: still still speak some positivity into Kenya, and I don't
Speaker 5: think they've been in a positive place for a long time,
Speaker 5: is what I'm saying. So it's like I respect people
Speaker 5: that listen. Y'all know we ain't been cool for years,
Speaker 5: for real, for real, for real, but we're not giving
Speaker 5: that to all y'all. We can have when we're right,
Speaker 5: you can talk. And I don't know why or if
Speaker 5: you know Kenya has been avoiding Cynthia's calls or what
Speaker 5: that's about and why, I am curious to know that,
Speaker 5: but I do believe that as it all goes back
Speaker 5: to Ultimate Girls Trip, I think their friendship to me
Speaker 5: was repiably damaged on that show and it's never gonna
Speaker 5: be the same as it was before. And I think
Speaker 5: Cynthia is keeping a cue And still you know Cynthia's
Speaker 5: is still gonna, you know, say positive things, especially on
Speaker 5: the show to her, But I do I did catch
Speaker 5: when that online. It's like they you know, they're trying
Speaker 5: to throw it, make it like that Cynthia flip flop.
Speaker 5: She's not really having her friend's back. You can have
Speaker 5: your friends back and still tell them they're wrong. That
Speaker 5: is definitely possible. It's hard, but it is definitely, you know.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I hate it because they were like
Speaker 5: when I was around them before, they were so like
Speaker 5: they really did fuck with each other. But I think
Speaker 5: I think too much has happened between them since.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do think it's I did watch AUTI
Speaker 1: Mcgirl's Trip. It was the first installment of it, and
Speaker 1: their friendship was tested, and they even said it it
Speaker 1: was tested during that time, and I don't think things
Speaker 1: were the same with that.
Speaker 2: But before I let you guys go, I.
Speaker 1: Do want to read Kenya Moore's final statement and to
Speaker 1: get her thoughts on this. So Kenya posted this on
Speaker 1: our Instagram with the montage video of her at her hairspot.
Speaker 1: Kenya said, I quote, you have been my besties for
Speaker 1: the last twelve years and I love and appreciate you
Speaker 1: so much. Last year, you cried with me when all
Speaker 1: of my hard work from the salon was cut by
Speaker 1: production and none of it was shown.
Speaker 2: I want to thank all.
Speaker 1: Of my friends who showed up for me and who
Speaker 1: support me on a regular basis, who loved me down.
Speaker 1: Miss Lawrence, thank you for gracing us with your presence.
Speaker 1: You're a star. I'll hope to turn our segment to
Speaker 1: a TV show. God willing. She thanked her event planner
Speaker 1: Events by Monet. She thanked the gorgeous models. She also
Speaker 1: said to the cast of Real Housepots of Atlanta Season sixteen,
Speaker 1: I wish you all an incredible season. To my friends
Speaker 1: and family, thanks for loving me, flaws and awe. Thank
Speaker 1: you to all the studying women who have patronized Kenya
Speaker 1: moore hairspot. I love making you look beautiful. Love and
Speaker 1: blessings to all of you.
Speaker 3: That's good. That's good.
Speaker 4: I like the piece that she added in about wishing
Speaker 4: to cast a successful season. You know, that's the kind
Speaker 4: of energy you want to see from Kenya again. I'm
Speaker 4: a person who think is fucked up that she was released.
Speaker 4: I think she deserves to be there and needs to
Speaker 4: be there to complete the story. So I don't think
Speaker 4: she deserves to be released from the series, and I
Speaker 4: wanted to see her make her way back, hopefully that's
Speaker 4: my hope.
Speaker 5: I think this statement sounds like someone that knows she's
Speaker 5: never coming back. Honestly, that's what that sounds like. That
Speaker 5: she sounds to me defeated. It sounds like I'm trying
Speaker 5: to put on a strong front like okay, but you know,
Speaker 5: I wish all the best, like the link. The language,
Speaker 5: to me like it sounds like a goodbye, like a
Speaker 5: final goodbye. That doesn't sound like, you know, Kenya leaves
Speaker 5: little breck harms like you know, you never know. There's
Speaker 5: none of that in the statement. It does feel like
Speaker 5: it's a rap forever. And but Kenya does have the
Speaker 5: personality to do something else on her own, another show
Speaker 5: on her own. I hope she does do that. But
Speaker 5: it does sound like it's we're not getting her back,
Speaker 5: and I do feel like, you know, we're gonna be disappointed.
Speaker 5: I'll be I will, I will eat my words if
Speaker 5: I'm wrong, you know, But I do feel like this
Speaker 5: is a good vibe, and I don't It is kind
Speaker 5: of like weird to me that the one that talked
Speaker 5: about the gun didn't really get held accountable. Yes, Kenya
Speaker 5: should have been held accountable, but one side of accountability
Speaker 5: is not really accountability, is favoritism.
Speaker 4: Do you think it feel final because it was her
Speaker 4: last episode this season?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 4: Because I sense the I sensed the final nature of
Speaker 4: the tone of the message. But in my mind it
Speaker 4: maybe you can help me with how I'm looking at this,
Speaker 4: but I don't. It didn't feel like I'm not on
Speaker 4: this show. Maybe the for twelve seasons part or whatever,
Speaker 4: but I just felt like that was a message to
Speaker 4: close off her participation in this season. But you're saying
Speaker 4: you feel like it means she's done with the show forever.
Speaker 4: That's the feeling you got.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I just my opinion. I'm wrong once
Speaker 5: or twice a year, so you know, I'm just say
Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, but I feel like twice
Speaker 5: a year it does feel like again, I just think
Speaker 5: it's bad, a bad message to like put out there
Speaker 5: from production, Like certain things, the things that seem to
Speaker 5: not get people suspended or fired gets allowed. That to
Speaker 5: me is scarier. Yeah, I can take that how you
Speaker 5: want to, but you know, not to take away I
Speaker 5: know some people like you're defending her. I'm not defending Kenya.
Speaker 5: I've said it multiple times. Is wrong. She ruined her
Speaker 5: own moment. It hurt herself. Why make your moment about
Speaker 5: your salon about this bitch so you didn't even know her.
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying bitch like I'm palling bitch. I'm
Speaker 5: just saying how we talk sometimes. You know, it took
Speaker 5: away from your moment, like if I'm getting an award
Speaker 5: for something, I'm not going to give someone that I
Speaker 5: don't like my moment when it should all be about
Speaker 5: celebrating me. And I think that was a huge miscalculation,
Speaker 5: like y'all, Like y'all said, she probably thought that was
Speaker 5: gonna jump off the salon and make oh this is
Speaker 5: what I happened, that epic scene happened, and it didn't
Speaker 5: work out like that for and I think I do
Speaker 5: think it was a miscalculation. Think it was wrong, It
Speaker 5: wasn't good, and Kenya, it's smarter than that. That's why
Speaker 5: I'm still surprised that she did this. She could have
Speaker 5: done this so many other ways, but hey, we don't know.
Speaker 5: And we also and the reason why I brought up
Speaker 5: her other issues on the show, like her being attacked
Speaker 5: and all the other things and stuff she had to
Speaker 5: live with for years. You hiring men to be on
Speaker 5: the show. She's been humiliated for many, many years on
Speaker 5: the show. Okay, So I guess that's why sometimes I
Speaker 5: give it a little bit like I'm not making excuses.
Speaker 5: I just like to get into people's mind, like what
Speaker 5: would make someone or how would this make me feel
Speaker 5: if I was that person? So you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 5: and please don't mistaken that for me making excuses for people.
Speaker 5: I just am into the psychology of why people do
Speaker 5: and what headspace they are in to make them do
Speaker 5: these things. It's easy to sit on our couches eating
Speaker 5: out popcorn. Never in these situations say well she should
Speaker 5: have done this, and well you haven't been there where
Speaker 5: you talk. You be vulnerable. A bunch of mother people
Speaker 5: clown you for that. You be vulnerable your love life.
Speaker 5: You marry this guy, you get clown for that. You
Speaker 5: get punished by the network for not sharing your marriage.
Speaker 5: You get physically assaulted on a stage, they don't suspend
Speaker 5: the other girl, and you get clown and you get
Speaker 5: to ask beat on TV, like many, many, many, things
Speaker 5: over many many years, she's had to eat, right, Does
Speaker 5: that justifyer doing this someone else? No, But I'm trying
Speaker 5: to get her mindset.
Speaker 4: Of course, she says, somebody else eating on these posters.
Speaker 4: She said, somebody else is gonna be eating on these posters.
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking that she snapped. Did she say, you
Speaker 5: know what, that's it? I don't know, but I'm trying
Speaker 5: to get into the headspace the networks dig. What're you saying?
Speaker 3: She was like, I'm tired of having to set the
Speaker 3: networks dig. Then it hit her like, right.
Speaker 5: She had to that wasn't in the moment. Things She
Speaker 5: had to find those pictures, get an investigative print those
Speaker 5: pictures up, pick the size of the poster board, the thickness,
Speaker 5: all those things, and present them. And then she still
Speaker 5: had many chances to get off the off ramp to
Speaker 5: a board mission and she didn't. So I want to know.
Speaker 5: I'm curious as to the mindset of what made her
Speaker 5: finally say that's it. I'm going to go to this
Speaker 5: level and be extreme.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the reason why I listen.
Speaker 1: I don't know what Kenya Plans are doing in terms
Speaker 1: of doing interviews or anything. After this, but I will
Speaker 1: implore people to watch her Tameron Hall interview because she
Speaker 1: did talk about a lot of this to Claudia. And
Speaker 1: I think the other thing too, is it was at
Speaker 1: that at the moment of her Tamra Hall interview, it
Speaker 1: was it was still fresh.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many months afterwards.
Speaker 1: It was a few months afterwards, but it was still
Speaker 1: fresh for her, And I think that's why you should
Speaker 1: watch it. Not you, but like people should watch it
Speaker 1: because it will give you some ideas of how she feels.
Speaker 1: But look, I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: Kenya Moore is meant to be on somebody's television screen,
Speaker 1: whether it's continue on with the show or or doing
Speaker 1: other things. This is not the last you'll see of
Speaker 1: Kenya more.
Speaker 5: Are you gonna interview her again? Like since like after.
Speaker 4: This, she needs to come on here with us, so
Speaker 4: to bring her ass on next Monday.
Speaker 5: The interview you're not telling us and that's gonna be
Speaker 5: the one you drop next Monday.
Speaker 1: Oh, first of all, I'm dropping one to I'm dropping
Speaker 1: an interview tomorrow any more.
Speaker 5: Haircare. He's not answering Dustin. You see that.
Speaker 1: You guys are so funny anyways, Claudia, dust is anything
Speaker 1: else you want to talk about your fans in terms
Speaker 1: of supporting you stuff you have going on?
Speaker 5: Did you interview Kenya?
Speaker 2: No, I have not.
Speaker 5: Will you can we get that? I think you would
Speaker 5: be You'd be great for that.
Speaker 2: You're well listen.
Speaker 1: I love you more than you know, and that's very
Speaker 1: scaroty you to say.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 3: We'll see you for part two of your interview with her.
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