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Speaker 1: Welcoup to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,

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Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with

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Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable

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Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about high

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Speaker 1: rain drops.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a real conversation.

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Speaker 1: Does that Claude and I do not prep what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about?

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Speaker 2: We do?

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Speaker 1: We Actually, I literally have no idea what're they're about

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Speaker 1: to say? So let's bring on the one the only

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Speaker 1: dustin Raw.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah. I've been waiting for tonight.

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Speaker 4: When I tell you I've been with I feel like

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Speaker 4: Jennifer Lopez waiting for tonight. Oh okay, I've been waiting.

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Speaker 4: God damn it. What's up?

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Speaker 3: Blows you doing?

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Speaker 2: You who needs no introduction? Apparently I'm so jealous.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's getting so accept me, Carlos. You look like even

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Speaker 5: one out all weekend. I look at that happy smile,

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Speaker 5: so happy. I love it. I love it. Hey, I

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Speaker 5: miss y'all, this is gonna be a great show.

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Speaker 1: I am Wow, ladies, gentlemen, gays and bays. The moment

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Speaker 1: you've all been waiting for. We are now going to

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Speaker 1: get into the most explosive, highly anticipated episode, the most

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Speaker 1: controversial episode probably in the history of the Real Housewives

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Speaker 1: of Atlanta. This episode I watch with baited breath, and

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Speaker 1: I watched it twice because I really the thing is

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Speaker 1: that I watched it the first time and I was

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Speaker 1: like watching it as like you know, Peyton, like what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen because we already know what happened. Then I

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Speaker 1: watched it again to make sure that I was able

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Speaker 1: to understand everything, and I did. So I want to

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Speaker 1: get into it before we get into the moment that

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Speaker 1: happened between Kenya and and brit and everything.

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Speaker 2: That went down at Kenya. More hair Spa.

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Speaker 1: I want to get into more Hairy Care, LaToya, Hobbs, all,

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Speaker 1: the team twirl is the is in the chat. I

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Speaker 1: love you guys, Okay, So look, I do want to

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Speaker 1: first start off Claudia and Dustin. Kelly, I love you Kelly, Kelly.

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Speaker 1: You are raining as my number one favorite newbie. But Kelly,

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Speaker 1: baby doll. Angela Oakley is coming for your spot, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just being Kelly. I love you, but I got

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Angela is coming for your spot, Kelly. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: we'll see she surpasses you. But as of Doc Kelly,

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Speaker 1: you are still Carlos.

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Speaker 2: King's number one favorite newbie.

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Speaker 1: Angela Oakley scenes when it comes to her daughter and Claudia,

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Speaker 1: Dustin would love you to take take it from here.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say that.

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Speaker 1: I think Angela Oakley is such a natural and to

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Speaker 1: see her talk to her daughter and to discuss things

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Speaker 1: about going on in their dynamic, she is giving us

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Speaker 1: great personal story and I am here for all of it.

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Speaker 1: So get into Angela. Okay, Claudia and y'all agree with me,

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Speaker 1: disagree with me. What are your thoughts on her?

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Speaker 5: I think she's a great cast member being part of

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Speaker 5: this group. I don't see her like leading her own show,

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Speaker 5: but I see her as being a stand up star

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Speaker 5: in an ensemble cast because she's not Rah rah rah.

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Speaker 5: She's not there, but she's subtle about it. And like

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Speaker 5: Dustin was saying, just now, we want to see real

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Speaker 5: life stuff, and she plays right into that. And I

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Speaker 5: don't think she's playing. That's why it's good. You could

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Speaker 5: tell Charles kind of doesn't play ball with her sometimes

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Speaker 5: and kind of throws her off. That's real. Sometimes in

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Speaker 5: relationship you want your guy to be all fawning a

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Speaker 5: little you. And he made the you know, not help

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Speaker 5: the stuff up. He'll do stuff like that. But guess

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Speaker 5: what real relationships are like that. And then we got

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Speaker 5: the conversation with her daughter, and she didn't know that

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Speaker 5: even really there. The way her taught her daughter did

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Speaker 5: for camera. And I really liked, right, didn't it feel

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Speaker 5: about some real shit. I like you doesn't get so

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Speaker 5: sick and tired. And this is what kind of irritated

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Speaker 5: me when I was in reality TV. Everybody acts like

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Speaker 5: their life is always on ten. It's always a designer bag,

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Speaker 5: days it's real life stuff where you're mad you're Maddia

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Speaker 5: daughter because she didn't tell you. Sometimes you think her

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Speaker 5: daughter should share with your mom, her mom. That is

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Speaker 5: what makes the average person who does not live like

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Speaker 5: And I would tell people on some other reality shows

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Speaker 5: your viewers, Like, you can't assume everyone like that, that's

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Speaker 5: unrelatable something of that stuff. But that family stuff is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking further to the relatability piece that I think

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Speaker 4: is Angela's superpower, right, they said, yeah, she is married

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Speaker 4: And if you know anything about sports, you do, so

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Speaker 4: And there are she has the quirks that make housewives

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Speaker 4: memorable and that make us like certain housewives. Prime example,

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Speaker 4: it's the little shit she does. She was washing her

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Speaker 4: using a little pad or something, and she had her

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Speaker 4: hair pulled back in a ponytail, like black woman. I

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Speaker 4: got a mother, and my parents been married fifty five years,

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Speaker 4: so I've seen my mother do this for a long time,

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Speaker 4: And it was something about the way Angela called Charles's

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Speaker 4: then she said Charles. She called him like that, the

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Speaker 4: way she said Charles that second time. That's the kind

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Speaker 4: it's very real, it's very relatable, and I'm enjoying her.

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Speaker 4: I'm enjoying this season overall. But yes, I agree with

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Speaker 4: you that Kelly is a great, great force to be

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Speaker 4: are made of. And Angela Oakley is a very nice

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Speaker 5: Kelly was is fun and at one point I thought

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Speaker 5: definitely showed her like loyalty to Britt, Like how she

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Speaker 5: because you're knew you kind of want to you kind

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Speaker 5: of got in with it. The olgi's like you, and

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Speaker 5: like it showed that she has some about her. She's

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Speaker 5: not a big stand on what she believes. She's not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, she's short so she'd be looking up,

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Speaker 4: but she know where she's.

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Speaker 3: Going and I like that about her. I liked that

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Speaker 3: about Kelly.

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Speaker 4: That Kelly she's a good addition to this cast. So

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Speaker 4: let's shoot the ship, right, since we got to talk

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Speaker 4: about it, let's talk about it. I I like Bret sorry,

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Speaker 4: and I feel like me liking.

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Speaker 2: You have to apologize for that.

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Speaker 4: I feel like me liking Kenya and wanting Kenya to

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Speaker 4: still be a part of this cast, and me feeling

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Speaker 4: like it was wrong that Kenya was released from the

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Speaker 3: Me not agreeing with that does not mean.

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Speaker 4: That I have to not appreciate what I think feel

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Speaker 4: Britt Edie brings to this cast.

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Speaker 3: So that's where let's.

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Speaker 2: Get into it. Let's let's let's have real conversation.

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Speaker 1: One thing about all of us is we're very honest,

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Speaker 1: and we don't say the things that are popular for

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Speaker 1: the court of public opinion to approve us.

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Speaker 2: Right, we say what's real.

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Speaker 1: And and one thing about all three of us, y'all, y'all, y'all,

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Speaker 1: y'all will catch on later that we're right, right, I said,

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Speaker 1: I said day one. I like Britt, I like Kelly,

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Speaker 1: I like Angela, I like all the new girls.

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Speaker 2: I've known Shemir for years. I've always loved her.

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Speaker 1: The thing with Britt is this, and I do like Britt,

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Speaker 1: what it is. I think Britt is a great housewife.

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Speaker 1: Now with that being said, let's get into the first

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Speaker 1: scene with Britt, Shemiah, and Angela. I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: honest how I felt. I felt Britt was performative in

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Speaker 1: I have been doing reality television for twenty years. Okay,

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Speaker 1: fuck I'll be talking about. Y'all don't have to agree

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Speaker 1: Don't because I ain't losing those sleep And if you

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: When I watched that scene between Shamiyah, Angela and Britt,

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Speaker 1: a great housewife. Again, it came across performative where I

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Speaker 1: to be apologetic. I believe because I've been doing I

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Speaker 1: know how this should works. I believe some phone calls

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Speaker 1: I did, but girl ain't a good look, and I

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Speaker 1: think she had to Well, I don't want whatever I

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Speaker 1: I didn't buy it. I didn't buy it in that scene.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't did.

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Speaker 1: I felt nothing and the work of Winnie Houston, I

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Speaker 1: have nothing. I had nothing to feel. People Bryson fell

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Speaker 1: the fire, I felt nothing. You know, changing faces stroked

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Speaker 1: me up, struck me down. I wasn't stroked. I felt nothing.

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Speaker 1: I didn't feel anything, and I did. I agree with you.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was very fake and to me, it

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Speaker 5: made me feel like she's not right for the show. Actually, okay,

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Speaker 5: like we just praised Kelly for standing on business. If

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Speaker 5: that's what you felt, then stand on that ship. Yeah

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Speaker 5: I should have said that about a gun. I'm not

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Speaker 5: sorry that I checked her because I don't like her.

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Speaker 5: It's very obvious she is not like Kenya. Since day one,

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Speaker 5: it's very obvious that she has been looking for a

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Speaker 5: reason to go off, and at that dinner where Kenya

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Speaker 5: gave her a hug and patter, which is not that

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Speaker 3: She could have been slicker about it. You know what

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Speaker 5: For you.

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Speaker 4: Y'all want drama, y'all want fireworks, Let Britt and Kenya

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We almost had a good

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Speaker 3: It's it's just not.

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Speaker 5: it was definitely wrong. It went too far, and it

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Speaker 1: You were there, I was there, but that so I

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Speaker 5: I left, I left before that happened.

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Speaker 2: I just off teeth. I do want to ask you this.

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Speaker 1: You actually were president for Kenya Moore's hairspot grand opening, right,

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Speaker 5: There was no clues, there was no indication, it was

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Speaker 5: none of that Kenya was pleasant. I didn't think that

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Speaker 4: I wasn't even there, and I feel the same way.

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Speaker 4: It still doesn't make sense to me, Like none of

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: There was no there was no story built to introduce

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Speaker 4: There's just nothing. I just feel like they had a

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Speaker 3: About the whole situation.

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Speaker 1: I think Porscha clocked it for listen. For me, I thought, okay,

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Speaker 1: so we watched the scene where it was Porscha, Kelly

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Speaker 1: the world. Right, And it's okay to have preconceived notions

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Speaker 1: I think Brit was like, I know what Kenya gives

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Speaker 2: Right, and she wanted to make that very clear.

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Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with that, right, Claudia.

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Speaker 5: it was fucked up what happened with Kenya, what Kenya

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Speaker 4: just doing things for the sake of doing them, and

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00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 4: it actually her behavior at the dinner at the bank

433
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 4: contradicted what she expressed to Angela when they went for

434
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 4: that walk, and she told her that, you know, I

435
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 4: feel a certain energy from Kenya and basically, if she

436
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,719
Speaker 4: fuck with me again, I'm on her ass right. You

437
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 4: can feel that way, but it doesn't mean you have

438
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 4: to seek or pursue or look for an argument or

439
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 4: a confrontation. You just wait until, hopefully it doesn't ever

440
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 4: present itself. But you wait until someone has, you know,

441
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 4: offended you in that way and you checked their ass.

442
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 4: Kenya had done nothing to her, She said nothing offensive

443
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 4: to her at that dinner. She was actually very pleasant

444
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: with her, and so BRIT's behavior did appear unhensed and

445
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 4: out of place and motivated by a desire to not

446
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 4: get punked.

447
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna get me. I ain't gonna be the one,

448
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: you know.

449
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 4: It felt like that, and that's never entertaining. When you

450
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 4: could have just sat there, been cool with all these ladies.

451
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 4: Look beautiful, she's gorgeous. She could have just looked beautiful.

452
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 4: And if Kenya decided did present that energy, then it

453
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 4: would have made sense to the viewers for her to

454
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 4: meet her at that level and let the chips fall

455
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 4: where they may. But Britt was on one, she was

456
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 4: turned up, and unfortunately this is where it ended. I

457
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 4: don't think Kenya should have been suspended. I don't think

458
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 4: what she did warranted being removed from the cast. Now,

459
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 4: I wasn't sucking dick on the posters, so maybe it's

460
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 4: not up to me, you know what I'm saying to

461
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 4: say that, But I don't feel like what she did.

462
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: We didn't see the picture as viewers.

463
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 4: The people that were there saw it, So I'm sure

464
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 4: that was terrible for her, and I can't speak to

465
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 4: what that means to her. But as far as the

466
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 4: shit that these women have done to each other on

467
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 4: this show up until now, a lot of other terrible

468
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 4: things have happened and we haven't seen people lose their

469
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 4: jobs over it. So I felt like that was a

470
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 4: little misaligned. And I hope to see Kenya hopefully at

471
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 4: the reunion and back on the cast next season so

472
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 4: we can watch the story forward unplayed. Don't get to

473
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 4: see what happened, We don't get to see them figure

474
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: it out. We didn't get to see either one of

475
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: them be accountable for their actions for real, for real.

476
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 4: So hopefully we get to see Kenya at the reunion

477
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 4: and we get to watch their story play out fully

478
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: next season. That's my hope.

479
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 5: Can I give advice to anyone that wants to do television?

480
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 5: I know I'm not like I was a one season person,

481
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 5: but I don't care about that. I know television, and

482
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 5: I know human nature, and I know I'm intelligent. No

483
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 5: housewife has ever become iconic from anything physical or threatening someone.

484
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 5: You are iconic when you have some measure of restraint,

485
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 5: when you murder with your words, by looking fabulous, not

486
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 5: cussing someone out and being rah rah and go and

487
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 5: going low. When you can look gorgeous, wealthy, affluent, classy,

488
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 5: but say some shit that gets to your soul and

489
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 5: gets you together, those are iconic. Or when you're fun,

490
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 5: like we're still saying leaks the ghetto, like we still

491
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 5: saying that, we still talk about white refrigerators, we still

492
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 5: talk about a lot of the other reason that people

493
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 5: have said, like who said that or whatever? Like you

494
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 5: know all those things, you know what I mean, Like

495
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 5: because those were like those are memorable moments. We don't

496
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 5: talk about horse or dragon Can you buy her hair?

497
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 5: Because that was violent. That was a dark spot in

498
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 5: the history of house spots. We're not gonna talk about

499
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 5: Britney much longer after this, after we get through the season,

500
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a dark spot on the history of

501
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 5: the franchise. It's going to be the cute moments that

502
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 5: we can repeat amongst our friends in our group chats.

503
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 5: That's what makes you an iconic housewife. We want to

504
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 5: have fun and be able to repeat some of your lines.

505
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 5: Ain't no one want to repeat where's my pistol? Wear

506
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 5: my whips? And no one's gonna want to repeat putting

507
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 5: someone's dick sucking pitches on the poster either, So I'm

508
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 5: gonna keep it fair. I wish they would get back

509
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 5: to knowing, like the things that are memorable are when

510
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 5: they have they lasted upon you, but they also exercise

511
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 5: some restraint when you know, a bitch could whoop you ass,

512
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 5: but she whipped your ass with her words.

513
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: I also didn't understand how somebody got to if somebody

514
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 4: said they're gonna shoot you, wouldn't posting pictures of them

515
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: sucking dick make them want to shoot you some more?

516
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I don't. I just don't

517
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 4: understand how that was. That was the defense move, you

518
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I just I don't know.

519
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 3: I just think it was. It just didn't make sense

520
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: to me, And I.

521
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: Mean, listen, it's the reason why.

522
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: As I was watching the episode and I wanted to

523
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: watch it twice.

524
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 2: And you know, when the when the event.

525
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: Started, you're seeing like the spotous, gorgeous, right beautiful, and

526
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: it looks beautiful.

527
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: And one of the things that.

528
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: I even took like, wow, this is great is the

529
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: fact that everybody did show up to support her, because

530
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of those things don't happen. So

531
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: we see Kelly and Britt arrive together. I'm gonna start

532
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: by saying this, I'm gonna.

533
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: Finish it later.

534
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Kelly was the MVP in this episode

535
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: code because that's the type of friend you want, you know,

536
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: like like Kelly, it's some listen the movie, there's something

537
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: about Mary.

538
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: There is something.

539
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: About Kelly where I just feel like she's so natural

540
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: and everything Kelly has done so far this season as

541
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: a human being when it comes to my friends, I

542
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,719
Speaker 1: would have done the same thing in terms of like

543
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: having their back and being supportive when you felt like

544
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: your friend was being was being read, whatever the case

545
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: may be.

546
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: So anyway, have to.

547
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: Say, looking at Kingya's event, a lot of the comments

548
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: are saying this that it's a shame that it happened

549
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: at her event due to the celebratory nature of what

550
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: the accomplishment means. You've said it, Claudia said it, I've

551
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: said it. There's nobody saying what Kenya did was right.

552
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: We all collectively have said it last week, and we'll

553
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: say it again this week, and I'll say it. What

554
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: Kenya did was not okay. It was wrong. It was

555
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: unfortunate right. Two wrongs do not make a right. I

556
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: said what brit said is wrong. What Kenya did is wrong.

557
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: Two wrongs do not make a right. I wish Kenya

558
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: would have given her a read that would have, like

559
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: Claudia said, solidified the force multiplier that she is right

560
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: in a perfect world. I think that should have taken place.

561
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: Kenya Moore herself has said on tammeron Hall that.

562
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: She was wrong.

563
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: I don't see why people listen if the person who

564
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: did it is saying I was wrong and I should

565
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: have done something better. I don't think it's I don't

566
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: think it's bad for anyone else to be like, we

567
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: agree with you. It was a bad thing to do.

568
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: Based on what occurred and based on what led up

569
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: to it, it's evident that when it comes to King's

570
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: placed on the show, she is somebody that is irreplaceable.

571
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: When it comes to what the network decided to do.

572
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: I tell people this all the time. No one believes

573
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: me because it is what it is. The dismissal of

574
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: anybody is at the hands of the network. We don't

575
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: have Carlos King producers, production companies, We don't have a

576
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: say on the power to hi or fire anybody. Everything

577
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: is at the hands We can give our opinion with anything,

578
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: right Claudia. I've said this story before. I fought for Clauda.

579
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want her in the name.

580
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: Ultimately, it's not my decision, do you know what I mean?

581
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: But I can have a point of view because I'm

582
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: respected in this game. But at the end of the day,

583
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: the network and they said it on the title card.

584
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: They and it's say the production company and a name producers.

585
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: It says the network decided to not move forward with

586
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: continuing the filming with Kenya.

587
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: It was their decision.

588
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't have a say in it. That's how the

589
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: business does work, and you guys are seeing that again

590
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: what I say is true. But anyways, when it comes

591
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: to but I want to ask the two of you this,

592
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to Kenya's actions, Listen let's have a

593
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: real conversation. Based on what I've seen on social media,

594
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: it is split think she deserved to be removed of

595
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: her duties. There's fifty percent who believed she shouldn't have been.

596
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: Where do the two of you lie within that? Do

597
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: you think that should have been the case?

598
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 5: Thank you, sweethearts. Do I think she had been she'd

599
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 5: been taken off?

600
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: Now?

601
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 5: I don't because this is what I'm gonna say about

602
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 5: Kenya when I look at her history on the franchise,

603
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 5: Kenya has been at the receiving end of a lot

604
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 5: of foul shit that other people were kicked off for.

605
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 5: Kenya has every right to be a little paranoid about

606
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 5: threats of violence when she was beat up on the

607
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: show and no one really did nothing, And you know,

608
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 5: I know people are watching tonight, and I'm just gonna

609
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 5: that's what I think. Like if I it's much like

610
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 5: I feel like Mimi feels like she's like, when am

611
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 5: I gonna win on this show? When am I going

612
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 5: to get the edit? When am I going to get

613
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 5: the protection? When am I when is it going to

614
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 5: be like protect Kenya? So she's had a deal with

615
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff that has come to lean on

616
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 5: her doorstep and deal with it and play good and

617
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 5: still play along with everybody else. And she did, and

618
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 5: she did. Now you can make it argument and say

619
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 5: she deserves some of that smoke for her mouth. I

620
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 5: said earlier, it should never resort to violence on This

621
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 5: is the Housewives. It is not really love and hip hop,

622
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 5: This is not Zeus. So you should be able to

623
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 5: have a talk the biggest shit on the show and

624
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 5: not get you asked beat on the show, and not

625
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 5: have someone threatened you with a weapon. So I will

626
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 5: say she's been on the receiving end and she's had

627
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 5: to deal with a lot. Now, if you don't like her,

628
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 5: you're gonna say, well, it's a bit deserved it because

629
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 5: she runs her mouth. If you do have some kind

630
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 5: of grace or you can say, think of things like

631
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 5: and take it, take it personal feelings out out of it.

632
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 5: You could say, you know what, I could see how

633
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 5: she might snap eventually, Keenya has been dragged and embarrassed

634
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 5: in a in a gown in a reunion in front

635
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 5: of millions of people, and how to keep quiet about

636
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 5: it for a very long time. So with that thing said,

637
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 5: I could see why she would overreact to a talk

638
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 5: of a gun, threats of a gun, all that kind

639
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 5: of stuff. I can see how that would be. Doesn't

640
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 5: make it right, no one, No, the I hate for

641
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 5: her that is brilliant and smart as calculating how she is.

642
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 5: That she let a newbie get her jammed up where

643
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 5: she lost her position and the newbie still on the show.

644
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 5: That's the tragic the end, that that that opening in

645
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 5: her salon was so beautiful and now it's forever marred

646
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 5: with that night and it's not going to help your business.

647
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 5: Like I felt when when Brittany came up to her,

648
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: even if the apology to me was kind of fake, right,

649
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 5: it was like scrambling grasping for straw at straw to

650
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 5: keep her job. I thought for a moment like, damn, Ken,

651
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 5: you could go that was the moment. You could go

652
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 5: left right now and say you know what, let me

653
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 5: abort my plan, or let me go right and just

654
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 5: stay fucking and do it anyways. And when she stuck

655
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 5: with it, I'm like, damn it. I would rather have

656
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 5: seen her, like Carlos said, get her together verbally. It

657
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 5: would have been such an iconic season with those two

658
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 5: going back and forth. If no more gun threats were made,

659
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, it would have been we

660
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 5: got deprived, we lost seeing an epic battle, and Brittany

661
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 5: would have been elevated to not Kenya's level, but she

662
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 5: would have been elevated. And I think now she kind

663
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 5: of goes down, no pun intended, no pun intended, but

664
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 5: her value goes down on the show.

665
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: Chow, we are just getting started.

666
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

667
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.

668
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 4: I thought that, okay, So I think a couple of

669
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 4: things happened right. Number one, britt was absolutely doing damage control,

670
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: and that's why those apologies, the conversation in Smia's home,

671
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 4: none of that, you know, read as believable to me,

672
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 4: even some of the way that she was speaking with

673
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: Kelly when they were in that sprinter ride, which I

674
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 4: loved the fact that Kelly picked her up in that

675
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 4: sprinter and they had champagne. We're getting back to the

676
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 4: things that make Real Housewives of Atlanta feel like real

677
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 4: Housewives of Atlanta. But I didn't believe Bridg's disposition the

678
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: car either. To me, she was obviously playing to trying

679
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: to create a certain perception of herself and trying to

680
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: appear remorseful, you know what I mean, But it just

681
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: wasn't authentic. I also think this. I keep hearing a

682
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 4: conversation about the fact that people feel like Kenya may

683
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: have missed opportunity to make the focus of the night

684
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 4: her salon and the opening of it. I think that

685
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 4: Kenya was trying to do just that by pulling that

686
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 4: stunt at the opening of her hairspot. I think she

687
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: presumed and assumed that that was going to be an

688
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 4: iconic Housewives of of Atlanta moment that would be for

689
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: remembered forever when she got britz ass. But it backfired

690
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 4: in the worst possible way. It took the focus completely

691
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: off of her salon and on the stupid shit that

692
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 4: she did in response to Britz Antics.

693
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 3: And it was just sad to see. I like both

694
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: of these ladies.

695
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 4: Kenya Moore is, without a doubt, a big part and

696
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 4: a big reason that we and watch and talk about

697
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: this show to this day. She came on that show

698
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 4: in season five and changed it forever. We can't argue

699
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 4: about that. I didn't want to see her go out

700
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 4: this way.

701
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: My hope. We can't do nothing we can't go back and.

702
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 4: Put her in the damn episodes, right, So my hope

703
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 4: is that listen her and Bravo the powers that we

704
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 4: can have some sort of converse sation. She can end

705
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 4: up at the reunion and back on the cast, receiving

706
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 4: season seventeen, so we can see this story play out.

707
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: But to me, it's not helping matters when you're doing

708
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 4: things like reposting an Ai picture of you with tape

709
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: over your mouth that says justice for Kenya. That's not helping.

710
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 4: That's not helping. You've been in the business too long, Kenya.

711
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 4: You know how this works. Get like Nini said, get

712
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 4: your team to help you out. Get the people on

713
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: the phone that need to be on the phone to

714
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 4: have a proper negotiation and a proper conversation with the

715
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 4: powers that be to bring you back to this cast

716
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 4: where you belong. Because I feel the absence of her

717
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: in these episodes. I feel the absence of her confessional scenes.

718
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 4: I feel the absence of scenes of her daughter, beautiful daughter,

719
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: running around that house. We haven't seen the pools she

720
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 4: put in our house. We ain't seen shit, you know

721
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I can feel the void of her

722
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: participation in the show, and it sucks. I wanted to

723
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 4: see her and Porschau be friends. I wanted to see that.

724
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: To pick it back off of that, when I saw

725
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: her in port with Kelly, you know film as they

726
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: were testing out the models. I love that scene the most.

727
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: Their friendship there, They're the beginning of their friendship. That

728
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: seemed to be so natural and they and I think

729
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: they both understood, like how magical that the two women

730
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: who came in season five are not the anchors of

731
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: this show. Like that's something, you know what I'm saying,

732
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: Like like, if you look at sports, hey, Claudia, if

733
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: you look at sports, it's sort of like the rookies

734
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: having an opportunity to be in the starting five and

735
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: leading the team, like and and I felt that those

736
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: two women understood that assignment and was like, we're gonna

737
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: get along as long as we can because we know

738
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: how this works.

739
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: But I agree with you. I was looking forward to that.

740
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: I do want to ask the two of you this

741
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: when before I get to that, I at least want

742
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: to have I want to lighten the mood a little bit.

743
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: Can we talk about my favorite RuPaul drag Race moment

744
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: that Kenya gave with yeah the dust, I mean, look,

745
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: let me light up the mood up a little bit.

746
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: I rewound that five times because I felt like Kenya

747
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: was troiling her bathroom and it was like it was

748
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: to me, it was it was so housewife like, noted.

749
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: It was just like I mean coded, it was housewife

750
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: codd what she did with the with the dust, Like

751
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: I love that. I love the quote of Megan Thiss Stallion.

752
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm that bitch still that bitch, will forever be that bitch,

753
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: Like I wish it was like just that because to me,

754
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: it made me laugh and it just made me love

755
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: her even more.

756
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 5: And that's why she k like that's the kind of

757
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 5: stuff that we missed about the Housewives, Like more of that,

758
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 5: less of this ghetto shit that has been happening. And

759
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 5: I want to say this about the friendship between Porscha

760
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 5: and Kenya. See that feels real because it took years

761
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 5: to get here, you know, basically, Britt try to force

762
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 5: that like moment, like try to get the whole you know,

763
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 5: one eighty in one episode. No, like there's been like

764
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 5: I remember being at Kenya's baby shower and Porscha was

765
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 5: there and we took a picture of all of us

766
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 5: and I was like, damn, okay, that was the beginning.

767
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 5: And it wasn't like great, great, but it was better

768
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 5: and over the years. That is a real relationship. That's

769
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 5: what makes reality shows good. When you have people that

770
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 5: like you can show an evolution. They were at this point,

771
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 5: they got to this point, and then they're slowly getting back.

772
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 5: That's what happens in real life. And real life, you

773
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 5: don't go to one lunch with someone and in your

774
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 5: back best friends again because it's cameras on you, or

775
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 5: because you want Andy Cohen to keep you on the series,

776
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 5: Like get the fuck out of here with that, Like

777
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 5: that was fake and she should have known better. And

778
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 5: and really, if she really wanted to apologize to Kenya,

779
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 5: I mean, she could have like told her purduce. She

780
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 5: could have said, hey, let me let me call her

781
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 5: and be like, listen, before we go on camera, I

782
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 5: want you know that this is real and I'm not

783
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: doing it from a moment because Keny's gonna clock that

784
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 5: right away. Keny's gonna clock that you're trying to have

785
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 5: this fake mama with me. It ain't real. I probably

786
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 5: haven't heard from you since the gun thing, you probably

787
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 5: did not try to reach out at all. So you're

788
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 5: gonna do this at my event, so I can see

789
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 5: why can you be like f that because I already

790
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 5: got something for you now saying it was right because

791
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 5: it still wasn't. But you got to just think about like,

792
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 5: she knows the game, she's been there for a long time,

793
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 5: and Britt, I don't know who gave her the advice

794
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 5: that that would be a good idea. But if you

795
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 5: pissed some one off and the first time they see

796
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 5: it was on camera, they know you're just trying to

797
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 5: control the scene. You're trying to get the scene, trying

798
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 5: to get that moment.

799
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it does.

800
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: It makes no I'm not even gonna offer no commentary

801
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 4: on the antics of it all.

802
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: I'll just say feel fake.

803
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 5: It's like your man just cheat on you. But it

804
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 5: comes home with like some flowers and you're like, no,

805
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 5: it's gonna take some more than that.

806
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: And that's what I mean. We were robbed of all

807
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: of that.

808
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: We ain't seen none of that, no kind of We

809
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 4: didn't see them talk through anything or work through anything,

810
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: and it just feels very interrupted. As a viewer, right,

811
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 4: it feels very like our viewering experience has been disrupted

812
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 4: by Kenya's exit, as opposed to it making sense as

813
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: to why she's off the show. Even with the view

814
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 4: into the salon escapade that we saw, and even with

815
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 4: the apology tour that britt attempted to start, it still

816
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 4: feels incomplete. So again, we can't do nothing about the past.

817
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 4: The show's in the can already and being there currently.

818
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: I just hope that they bring Kenya to this reunion

819
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: on the stage with the ladies in person, face to face,

820
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 4: so that we can see this group of women talk

821
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: that moment out. I really hope we get to see that.

822
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 4: And I want Kenya back on the show. And what

823
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 4: I want Kenya back on the cast full time.

824
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 5: I do Brittany should Brittany should have not done that

825
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 5: at Kenya's event, just like Kenya should have not done

826
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: that at Hurry been sabotaging herself. But britt you should

827
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 5: have reached out to her and had a one on

828
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 5: one lunch if you may be supervised with Angela or

829
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 5: someone that you trust and as a mediator, but that

830
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 5: would show that listen, I really or again a side

831
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 5: phone conversation I really mean this. I'm really sorry. I

832
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 5: don't want to make this look like just a scene,

833
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 5: just something where she could you know, she'd be able

834
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 5: to tell she since here. But once she got to

835
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 5: her event, Keny was paying her desk, she was like whatever,

836
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 5: ignored the hell out of her because she had a

837
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: mindset that she's about to ruin this girl. And then

838
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 5: that's what happened at ruining herself unfortunately.

839
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and that's the thing.

840
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: So and I want to get into that, because what

841
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: no one is talking about that we will is the

842
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: fact that not thinking all spiritual all Mother Night Live.

843
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: But y'all know me, but God is in everything. And

844
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: I was listen, and I'm being very honest, I say this,

845
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: thank God Britt wasn't there. And I do mean that,

846
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: the fact that she decided to leave based on Kenya

847
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: paying her dust. I was happy that Brent was not

848
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: subjected to seeing that, because I would not have wanted

849
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: that for her, for you know, to deal with with

850
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: seeing that.

851
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: You know, I'm happy.

852
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: I'm happy she wasn't able to see it herself. And

853
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: and and again I'm I'm grateful and thankful that Brent

854
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: had the sense to be like she's paying me dust

855
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: let me leave, right. So I wanted to address that,

856
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: because God forbid, she was there. I think I think

857
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: this would be I'll just say this, This probably would

858
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: have been a very different conversation. And I'll now now

859
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: the other ladies were there, and I want to talk

860
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: about this with you, guys.

861
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: I want a friend like Kelly.

862
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: I want a friend who was a friend to my

863
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: faith and behind my back, you know, And I want

864
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: I want, I want to really focus on the decision

865
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: that Kelly made. Kelly has no issues with Kenya. Kelly

866
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: was even there while Kenya was auditioning folks. Kelly saw

867
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: one poster board and she said, I'm out. I'm I'm

868
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: not I'm not doing this. I will I'm not doing this.

869
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: This is my girl. We came here together. You want

870
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: a friend like Kelly. Now, unfortunately Kelly and are friends today,

871
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: which we'll see what happens with that. But you want

872
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: a friend like Kelly who did that so she left.

873
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: The other ladies were watching what was going on.

874
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the ladies reaction to it,

875
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: because I know all well, I don't know all those girls.

876
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: I know Portia and Cynthia so let me just be

877
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: And yeah, I know those two.

878
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: I know Porscha and Cynthia.

879
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: Well, and I could tell that in their minds they

880
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: were like, what is what is? What is this about

881
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: to be? And Clauda, you weren't there at that moment.

882
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: But when it came to the ladies' reactions, they all

883
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: decided to leave and Cynthia stayed back. And I want

884
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: to get into Cynthia because she's not only a friend

885
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: of mine, she's the friends of y'all two. Cynthia was

886
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: the only person who came up to Kenyon said baby,

887
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: that ain't.

888
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: It like You're better than this? I love you.

889
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: I'll clark you tomorrow. But what did y'all think about

890
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: the girl's reactions to this?

891
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 5: They were right, they were right. You know, it's good

892
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 5: to have friends that are ride to die, but are

893
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 5: they really your friend if they don't tell you when

894
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 5: you're wrong? You know what I mean? And I it

895
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 5: wasn't a good look for Kenya and we know she

896
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 5: can do so much better. I will say on a

897
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 5: technical part of this, as far as the whole revenge point,

898
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 5: is it true that those images were images that were

899
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 5: already online on a movie that Britt made. Is that true?

900
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: That's all a last I'll be honest with you. I

901
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: don't know, and I've been very honest. I am a journalist,

902
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: Hey Portsche, I am a journalist. I am not spending

903
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: my time looking for I don't know. I think at

904
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: the end of the day, what's wrong is wrong. But

905
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't Carlos King, I have no idea.

906
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 5: I always want to think about what was in someone's mind.

907
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 5: Because Kenye's smart, right, so for to like just find

908
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 5: some pitches that were private to post some I don't

909
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 5: think she'd be dumb enough to do that. I think

910
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 5: they from what I've been hearing, I could be wrong.

911
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 5: Those were images that were on the Internet already and

912
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 5: she blew them up. And I'm thinking that's why maybe

913
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 5: she thought, well, they're already out there. I'm not really

914
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 5: committing that crime. But it's not being viewed like that.

915
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: It's being viewed as it is revenge porn.

916
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. I think.

917
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where there's so many definitions.

918
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm not a lawyer.

919
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: I don't have squire behind my last name.

920
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: There's things that we all are discovering.

921
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, that's illegal. That's legal.

922
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: I I'm just saying I don't know. I don't know

923
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: the definition, but I do want to say this. I

924
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: always go back to what we saw. Yeah, the network

925
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: did not say the RP word in terms of her dismissal.

926
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: They didn't say that, right, The network, from my understanding,

927
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: as of today at eight fifty one Eastern Stentar time,

928
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: have not used that words as a cost for her dismissal.

929
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: So that's that's And I'm not saying it is it.

930
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it Isn't it. All I'm saying is

931
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: based on what we saw as viewers, those words have

932
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: not been used.

933
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 5: Would it make a difference to it? Does it make

934
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 5: a difference And I'm asking you to your opinion on this.

935
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 5: If these are images that britt already had online as

936
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 5: a cam girl, like if she was doing web that

937
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 5: web point stuff and they were out there and ken

938
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 5: you made copiism to embarrass her, is that that's not

939
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 5: revenge point? Is that revenge porn? Do y'all know?

940
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't know the law.

941
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm unclear with the law.

942
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 4: And I actually don't even think that it was necessarily

943
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 4: the issue. I think that whether it classified underneath that,

944
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: underneath that, or a lot right, I think the issue

945
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: is more so the violation of whatever code of conduct

946
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: exists when it comes to nudity, shit like that, whatever.

947
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: You know.

948
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 4: Her behavior violated some sort of code of conduct and

949
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 4: they chose and like they said, they used. Speaking of

950
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 4: the language used, they said, due to Kenya's behavior.

951
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

952
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say because at the end of the day,

953
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: the thing is this, and we all said this earlier.

954
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: Wrong is wrong, right, regardless of the definition of word was.

955
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: I think wrong is wrong.

956
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, to show

957
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: it is just wrong. And again it's something that Kenya

958
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: has admitted to it being wrong. But to answer your

959
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: question was the valid question. I don't know the definition

960
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: of what was going on, but wrong is wrong and

961
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: that's that. But I do want to say this part

962
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: about it too. Cynthia Belly is getting dragged on social media,

963
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: and I do want to address that you two are

964
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: friends with her.

965
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: I'm friends with her as well.

966
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: There is a discourse happening on social media as relates

967
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: to Cynthia Bailey's comments, not only on the show, but

968
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: what she has said in a recent interview, Kenya Moore

969
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: and synth and Belly have not.

970
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: Spoken since the incident.

971
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: They have not spoken, and that's what Cynthia Bailly has said.

972
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: Cynthia in some cases being called a good friend that

973
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: a good friend tells you to your face, like girl,

974
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: I love you.

975
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 2: This ain't it. Some people are saying Syntha's a flip flopper.

976
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: They're they're they're using clips of Ninnis saying Cynthia blows

977
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: with the wind, blows right. These are things people are

978
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: saying online as two people who know synth and Billy

979
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: very well, like I do.

980
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that?

981
00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: Do you think Cynthia Belly handled this the way as

982
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: a friend that you would want her to.

983
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 4: I was at Watch What Happens Live with Cynthia when

984
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 4: she taped that episode. I heard everything she said about

985
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: her current state of her friendship with Kenya. Cynthia expressed

986
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: how much love she had for Kenya. She did make

987
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 4: note of the fact that they haven't spoken since the incident,

988
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 4: even though she has reached out several times to Kenya,

989
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 4: and she also respected Kenya's space with that she got

990
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 4: her grace. She said, Listen, Kenya's got a lot going on,

991
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: and I understand that she maybe needs some space right now.

992
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 4: She knows I love her and I'm here whenever she

993
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 4: wants to talk. So she didn't go on television saying

994
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: I ain't talked to Kenya. I don't fuck with Kenya,

995
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 4: that I was fucked up what she did. No, she

996
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 4: was a Cynthia. We've always seen her be all that shit.

997
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 4: That conversation that people are having about Cynthia flip flopping again.

998
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 3: You can't start a story in the middle.

999
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: Let's not go back into the Housewives cannon and see

1000
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 4: all the times that Kenya tried to embarrass Cynthia on television,

1001
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 4: rolling the car window up in her face and shit,

1002
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 4: when Cynthia was trying to talk to her in that

1003
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 4: parking lot, antagonizing her and going way too far, cracking jokes.

1004
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 4: When they did dinner in the sky and she was

1005
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 4: questioning Cynthia Badger and heard them questions about her wine knowledge.

1006
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 4: When she was opening up the Bailey the wine cellar,

1007
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: the Bailey wine cellar. Let's not forget when Kenya almost

1008
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 4: spilled the beans and then played coy, did I do

1009
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 4: that and put her finger in the corner of her

1010
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: mouth when she alluded to and hinted at Cynthia's ex

1011
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 4: husband Mike proposing to her on camera. This is not

1012
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 4: a situation where Cynthia is just not being a good

1013
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 4: friend to Kenya. She was a great friend to Kenya.

1014
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 4: She kept it real in her face and told her

1015
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: in the moment, I love you. That was fucked up.

1016
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,479
Speaker 4: I got your back, and I'm gonna talk to you later.

1017
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 4: She has never trashed Kenya behind this. She said she

1018
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 4: thought Kenya was above that and if that equates to

1019
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 4: a bad friend and some people, then so be it.

1020
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: But it don't equate to being a bad friend to me.

1021
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 4: And I'm biased as fuck because I love Cynthia in

1022
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 4: real life, So I'm not gonna you know, make no,

1023
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be clear about that. I'm on Cynthia's side.

1024
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 4: It's personal for me because I know she's a good person,

1025
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 4: she's a good friend. So I'm not even gonna play

1026
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 4: them games. It is what it is like. I love

1027
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 4: that's my friend. I do the same for any of

1028
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 4: my friends.

1029
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: So Dustin is so Detroit. I love him.

1030
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: Listen, Claudia, because a lot of people don't say it.

1031
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: I love it, dust is like, and at the end

1032
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: of the day, she's my friend, and I stay by

1033
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: like I love that dust it is. I will say

1034
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: this in real life, Dustin is a great friend, and

1035
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: you would want a friend like Dustin. Dustin rise for

1036
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: his friend. And Dustin will also tell you like that,

1037
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: ain't it that? Ain't it?

1038
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: So we'll go ahead.

1039
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 5: Claudia, I kind of don't really know. I feel like

1040
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 5: they've been off since they did Ultimate Girls Trip and

1041
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 5: I heard a little bit from Cynthia a little bit

1042
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 5: of Kenya, and I just don't know where it started.

1043
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 5: Because depending on who you talk to, you're gonna get

1044
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 5: a kind of a slightly different version of events, right

1045
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 5: and so, and that's another show I didn't watch. I'm

1046
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 5: just going by my personal conversations with them, like they've

1047
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 5: been off for a while. You know, It's like, depending

1048
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 5: on whose perspective is from, you can say that's wrong.

1049
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 5: You're you know, when you're talking to your friend and

1050
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 5: they tell you what someone did to them and you're like, man,

1051
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 5: fuck that bitch, Like, yeah, they they did your dirty.

1052
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 5: But then you talk to the other person and they

1053
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 5: tell you, well, this is what I felt went wrong.

1054
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 5: So it's like, damn, So I really don't know, but

1055
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 5: I do like, no matter what if if Cynthia really

1056
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 5: feels this way about Kenya or not publicly, she's she

1057
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 5: is like presenting like you know, it's like she's not

1058
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 5: trying to like throw her on the bus, like she's like,

1059
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 5: I don't like it, but she still said she did

1060
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 5: still still speak some positivity into Kenya, and I don't

1061
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 5: think they've been in a positive place for a long time,

1062
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 5: is what I'm saying. So it's like I respect people

1063
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 5: that listen. Y'all know we ain't been cool for years,

1064
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 5: for real, for real, for real, but we're not giving

1065
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 5: that to all y'all. We can have when we're right,

1066
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 5: you can talk. And I don't know why or if

1067
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 5: you know Kenya has been avoiding Cynthia's calls or what

1068
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 5: that's about and why, I am curious to know that,

1069
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 5: but I do believe that as it all goes back

1070
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 5: to Ultimate Girls Trip, I think their friendship to me

1071
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 5: was repiably damaged on that show and it's never gonna

1072
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 5: be the same as it was before. And I think

1073
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 5: Cynthia is keeping a cue And still you know Cynthia's

1074
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 5: is still gonna, you know, say positive things, especially on

1075
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 5: the show to her, But I do I did catch

1076
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 5: when that online. It's like they you know, they're trying

1077
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 5: to throw it, make it like that Cynthia flip flop.

1078
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 5: She's not really having her friend's back. You can have

1079
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 5: your friends back and still tell them they're wrong. That

1080
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 5: is definitely possible. It's hard, but it is definitely, you know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I hate it because they were like

1082
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 5: when I was around them before, they were so like

1083
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 5: they really did fuck with each other. But I think

1084
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 5: I think too much has happened between them since.

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00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do think it's I did watch AUTI

1086
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: Mcgirl's Trip. It was the first installment of it, and

1087
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: their friendship was tested, and they even said it it

1088
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: was tested during that time, and I don't think things

1089
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: were the same with that.

1090
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: But before I let you guys go, I.

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Speaker 1: Do want to read Kenya Moore's final statement and to

1092
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: get her thoughts on this. So Kenya posted this on

1093
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: our Instagram with the montage video of her at her hairspot.

1094
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: Kenya said, I quote, you have been my besties for

1095
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: the last twelve years and I love and appreciate you

1096
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: so much. Last year, you cried with me when all

1097
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: of my hard work from the salon was cut by

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00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: production and none of it was shown.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank all.

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00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: Of my friends who showed up for me and who

1101
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: support me on a regular basis, who loved me down.

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00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: Miss Lawrence, thank you for gracing us with your presence.

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00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: You're a star. I'll hope to turn our segment to

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Speaker 1: a TV show. God willing. She thanked her event planner

1105
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: Events by Monet. She thanked the gorgeous models. She also

1106
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: said to the cast of Real Housepots of Atlanta Season sixteen,

1107
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: I wish you all an incredible season. To my friends

1108
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: and family, thanks for loving me, flaws and awe. Thank

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00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: you to all the studying women who have patronized Kenya

1110
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: moore hairspot. I love making you look beautiful. Love and

1111
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: blessings to all of you.

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Speaker 3: That's good. That's good.

1113
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 4: I like the piece that she added in about wishing

1114
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 4: to cast a successful season. You know, that's the kind

1115
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 4: of energy you want to see from Kenya again. I'm

1116
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 4: a person who think is fucked up that she was released.

1117
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 4: I think she deserves to be there and needs to

1118
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 4: be there to complete the story. So I don't think

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00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 4: she deserves to be released from the series, and I

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00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 4: wanted to see her make her way back, hopefully that's

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00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 4: my hope.

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00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 5: I think this statement sounds like someone that knows she's

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00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 5: never coming back. Honestly, that's what that sounds like. That

1124
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 5: she sounds to me defeated. It sounds like I'm trying

1125
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 5: to put on a strong front like okay, but you know,

1126
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 5: I wish all the best, like the link. The language,

1127
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 5: to me like it sounds like a goodbye, like a

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00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 5: final goodbye. That doesn't sound like, you know, Kenya leaves

1129
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 5: little breck harms like you know, you never know. There's

1130
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 5: none of that in the statement. It does feel like

1131
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 5: it's a rap forever. And but Kenya does have the

1132
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 5: personality to do something else on her own, another show

1133
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 5: on her own. I hope she does do that. But

1134
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 5: it does sound like it's we're not getting her back,

1135
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 5: and I do feel like, you know, we're gonna be disappointed.

1136
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 5: I'll be I will, I will eat my words if

1137
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,439
Speaker 5: I'm wrong, you know, But I do feel like this

1138
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 5: is a good vibe, and I don't It is kind

1139
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 5: of like weird to me that the one that talked

1140
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 5: about the gun didn't really get held accountable. Yes, Kenya

1141
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 5: should have been held accountable, but one side of accountability

1142
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 5: is not really accountability, is favoritism.

1143
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: Do you think it feel final because it was her

1144
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 4: last episode this season?

1145
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 3: Though?

1146
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 4: Because I sense the I sensed the final nature of

1147
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 4: the tone of the message. But in my mind it

1148
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 4: maybe you can help me with how I'm looking at this,

1149
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 4: but I don't. It didn't feel like I'm not on

1150
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 4: this show. Maybe the for twelve seasons part or whatever,

1151
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 4: but I just felt like that was a message to

1152
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 4: close off her participation in this season. But you're saying

1153
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 4: you feel like it means she's done with the show forever.

1154
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 4: That's the feeling you got.

1155
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I just my opinion. I'm wrong once

1156
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 5: or twice a year, so you know, I'm just say

1157
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, but I feel like twice

1158
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 5: a year it does feel like again, I just think

1159
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:37,479
Speaker 5: it's bad, a bad message to like put out there

1160
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 5: from production, Like certain things, the things that seem to

1161
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 5: not get people suspended or fired gets allowed. That to

1162
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 5: me is scarier. Yeah, I can take that how you

1163
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 5: want to, but you know, not to take away I

1164
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 5: know some people like you're defending her. I'm not defending Kenya.

1165
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 5: I've said it multiple times. Is wrong. She ruined her

1166
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 5: own moment. It hurt herself. Why make your moment about

1167
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 5: your salon about this bitch so you didn't even know her.

1168
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying bitch like I'm palling bitch. I'm

1169
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 5: just saying how we talk sometimes. You know, it took

1170
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 5: away from your moment, like if I'm getting an award

1171
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 5: for something, I'm not going to give someone that I

1172
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 5: don't like my moment when it should all be about

1173
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 5: celebrating me. And I think that was a huge miscalculation,

1174
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 5: like y'all, Like y'all said, she probably thought that was

1175
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 5: gonna jump off the salon and make oh this is

1176
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 5: what I happened, that epic scene happened, and it didn't

1177
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 5: work out like that for and I think I do

1178
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 5: think it was a miscalculation. Think it was wrong, It

1179
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 5: wasn't good, and Kenya, it's smarter than that. That's why

1180
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 5: I'm still surprised that she did this. She could have

1181
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 5: done this so many other ways, but hey, we don't know.

1182
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 5: And we also and the reason why I brought up

1183
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 5: her other issues on the show, like her being attacked

1184
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 5: and all the other things and stuff she had to

1185
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 5: live with for years. You hiring men to be on

1186
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 5: the show. She's been humiliated for many, many years on

1187
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 5: the show. Okay, So I guess that's why sometimes I

1188
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 5: give it a little bit like I'm not making excuses.

1189
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 5: I just like to get into people's mind, like what

1190
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 5: would make someone or how would this make me feel

1191
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 5: if I was that person? So you know what I'm saying, like,

1192
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 5: and please don't mistaken that for me making excuses for people.

1193
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 5: I just am into the psychology of why people do

1194
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 5: and what headspace they are in to make them do

1195
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,439
Speaker 5: these things. It's easy to sit on our couches eating

1196
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 5: out popcorn. Never in these situations say well she should

1197
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 5: have done this, and well you haven't been there where

1198
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 5: you talk. You be vulnerable. A bunch of mother people

1199
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 5: clown you for that. You be vulnerable your love life.

1200
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 5: You marry this guy, you get clown for that. You

1201
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 5: get punished by the network for not sharing your marriage.

1202
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 5: You get physically assaulted on a stage, they don't suspend

1203
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 5: the other girl, and you get clown and you get

1204
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 5: to ask beat on TV, like many, many, many, things

1205
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 5: over many many years, she's had to eat, right, Does

1206
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,479
Speaker 5: that justifyer doing this someone else? No, But I'm trying

1207
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 5: to get her mindset.

1208
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 4: Of course, she says, somebody else eating on these posters.

1209
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 4: She said, somebody else is gonna be eating on these posters.

1210
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking that she snapped. Did she say, you

1211
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 5: know what, that's it? I don't know, but I'm trying

1212
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 5: to get into the headspace the networks dig. What're you saying?

1213
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: She was like, I'm tired of having to set the

1214
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 3: networks dig. Then it hit her like, right.

1215
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 5: She had to that wasn't in the moment. Things She

1216
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 5: had to find those pictures, get an investigative print those

1217
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 5: pictures up, pick the size of the poster board, the thickness,

1218
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 5: all those things, and present them. And then she still

1219
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 5: had many chances to get off the off ramp to

1220
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 5: a board mission and she didn't. So I want to know.

1221
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 5: I'm curious as to the mindset of what made her

1222
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 5: finally say that's it. I'm going to go to this

1223
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 5: level and be extreme.

1224
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the reason why I listen.

1225
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what Kenya Plans are doing in terms

1226
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: of doing interviews or anything. After this, but I will

1227
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: implore people to watch her Tameron Hall interview because she

1228
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: did talk about a lot of this to Claudia. And

1229
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: I think the other thing too, is it was at

1230
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: that at the moment of her Tamra Hall interview, it

1231
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: was it was still fresh.

1232
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: I don't know how many months afterwards.

1233
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: It was a few months afterwards, but it was still

1234
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: fresh for her, And I think that's why you should

1235
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: watch it. Not you, but like people should watch it

1236
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: because it will give you some ideas of how she feels.

1237
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 1: But look, I think at the end of the day,

1238
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: Kenya Moore is meant to be on somebody's television screen,

1239
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,439
Speaker 1: whether it's continue on with the show or or doing

1240
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: other things. This is not the last you'll see of

1241
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: Kenya more.

1242
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 5: Are you gonna interview her again? Like since like after.

1243
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 4: This, she needs to come on here with us, so

1244
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 4: to bring her ass on next Monday.

1245
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 5: The interview you're not telling us and that's gonna be

1246
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 5: the one you drop next Monday.

1247
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: Oh, first of all, I'm dropping one to I'm dropping

1248
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: an interview tomorrow any more.

1249
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 5: Haircare. He's not answering Dustin. You see that.

1250
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: You guys are so funny anyways, Claudia, dust is anything

1251
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: else you want to talk about your fans in terms

1252
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: of supporting you stuff you have going on?

1253
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 5: Did you interview Kenya?

1254
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 2: No, I have not.

1255
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 5: Will you can we get that? I think you would

1256
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 5: be You'd be great for that.

1257
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: You're well listen.

1258
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: I love you more than you know, and that's very

1259
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: scaroty you to say.

1260
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thank you.

1261
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 3: We'll see you for part two of your interview with her.

1262
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, just catch the friends on podcast every Wednesday,

1263
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 4: Everywhere Podcasts or her. Catch me and my baby Evanie

1264
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 4: k Williams on Holding Court with edmie k Williams on

1265
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 4: Wednesdays and Fridays. Now we drop two times a week

1266
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 4: and go see my sister Claudia Jordan and games people

1267
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 4: play her killing it in And you look really good

1268
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 4: on your press run too, Claudia, you did, really did.

1269
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 5: I got ten pounds, so thank you very much. Catch

1270
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 5: me on Wednesdays on accidentally informed. I'm so sad I

1271
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 5: didn't shout out the podcast last week. I was just

1272
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 5: thinking about the play and everything Erica. We love Erica.

1273
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 5: We all gotta hang out that, we gotta do this.

1274
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 5: Maybe when we all go go see Carlos. We can

1275
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 5: double date when we go see Callos in that one city.

1276
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 5: The city, but you know who you are if you're watching.

1277
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 5: But yeah, check out the show. We all text you tickets,

1278
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 5: yes and uh yeah, the accidentally informed on Wednesdays. Please

1279
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 5: we gotta run that. We're just starting out for to

1280
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 5: run those numbers up and games women play. We are

1281
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 5: in Detroit this weekend, and we are in Columbus, Ohio

1282
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 5: on Sunday, and then we'll be in Atlanta soon. So yeah,

1283
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 5: thank you so.

1284
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: Much, Thank you for listening to Reality with the King.

1285
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: New episodes drop on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Share, comment, follow,

1286
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,919
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Speaker 2: Wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Visit Reality withthe King dot com and be sure to

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Speaker 1: follow me at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram, Twitter,

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Speaker 1: TikTok and yes baby, my YouTube channel where you could

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Speaker 1: get all of my visuals, baby, my expressions. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: don't forget Tweet me your thoughts and hot takes about

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Speaker 1: with the King is a production of Kingdom Rain Entertainment,

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Speaker 1: an executive produced by me Carlos King

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Speaker 2: Kingdom Rain Entertainment Baby