1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: The biggest moment had a legendary career, Fell defeats Father Time. 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Put another log fi, nobody here is getting time. Welcome 3 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: to the fire pit with Matt Channella. What a blur, 4 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: a dream, a Hollywood script, complete with the hero and 5 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: the villain. It was golf's Roman Colosseum. But the one 6 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: with the thumbs wasn't the assembled masses. It was Phil Nicholson. 7 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: Phil Nicholson arriving till Land Golf Resort and gets in 8 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: his coach thinks what I read about to take a 9 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: close to be? Were those these twenty seven teams would 10 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: be such a special for those two. Nicholson hadn't had 11 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: a top twenty since August, and yet started the day 12 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: in the final pairing. My gracious, that was his fifty 13 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: ft bunker shot at the fifth for birdie and he's 14 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: gonna like this smoked. And that was his sixty six 15 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: yard t shot in the par five, which all but 16 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: sealed the wind. Biggest moment of the legendary career. Fell 17 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: defeats Father Time his sixth major championship, and we're all 18 00:01:54,800 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: left in disbelief, looking fit, walking slowly, wearing sunglasses, chewing gum, smirking, 19 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: smiling and engaging throughout the Hall of Famer, made history 20 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: as the oldest on the longest hoist. Now want to 21 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: make a trophy for the second time in your career, 22 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson. You have earned it. Jim. It's gonna take 23 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: some time for a lot of people to have this 24 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: one sink in. Well, it has sunk in by now. 25 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: Phil's career and legacy gets a turbo boost into the 26 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: top ten of all time. 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Go to links sol dot 46 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: com and use promo code fire Pit discount on your 47 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: next purchase. So it was Sunday night, and like the 48 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: rest of you, the fire Pit Collective was trying to 49 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: process the situation social media, ESPN and Golf Channel. We're 50 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: all having a victory lap while we were chasing down 51 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: Alan Schipnuk our man on the ground who had just 52 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: filed his game story for golf Digest dot com. Las Verscias, 53 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: the newest member of the collective whose backstory was just 54 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: published on our website, joined us at this pit for 55 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: a recap of what took place at Keya was ocean 56 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: course plane of the p g A Championship. What was 57 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: it like to be there? It was electric, you know, 58 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: it was just a phenomenal atmosphere. I think, without a doubt, 59 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: these are the best crowds of the covid Era at 60 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: a golf tournament, and there was a feeling in the 61 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: air like everyone was just almost a giddy just to 62 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: beat a sporting event around people, a big time events. 63 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: I mean, golf missed this atmosphere. The last four majors 64 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: either had no or limited fans and it was just flat. 65 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: And the crowds brought so much energy, even starting on Thursday, 66 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: and then it just built and built. With Phil as 67 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: we all know, he's the people's favorite, he has been 68 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: for a long time. And then he had you know, 69 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: the Brooks pairing was perfect because Brooks wants to be 70 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: this anti hero and he wants to be the bad guy. 71 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: And he struts up to the first he like a 72 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: big swinging dick and he's just he's you could feel 73 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: that that energy, whereas Phil he looked jumpy, he looked tense. 74 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: You know, he's working that gum and he's hiding buying 75 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: the sunglasses and uh. And of course the first hole, 76 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's the worst case scenario. Film makes a 77 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: soft bogey. Brooks berries the birdie put two shot, swing 78 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: fills out of the lead. It's like here we go. 79 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: And then I mean the first the first five holes 80 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: were an opera, you know, with the filmmaking mistakes. Looked 81 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: like he's gonna play himself out of it. Jars that 82 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: incredible sandshot in the fifth hole to get back in 83 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: the fight, Brooks looks rattled. It just there was no 84 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: easing into this as a spectator. He just these guys 85 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: hit the ground and going a thousand miles an hour 86 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: and it was just relentless action and everyone sort of 87 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: fell away and it looked like it's gonna be a 88 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: coronation for Phil. Then it got tense again and he 89 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: started making bogies and just as you said it was 90 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: there was there was never a sense you could really exhale. 91 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: You know, he kind of had the bag on eighteen 92 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: until all of a sudden he got you know, in 93 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: the middle of a you know, it was like the 94 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: running of the bulls at Pamplona, and it was you know, 95 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: getting jostled around and that dude comes in for selfie. 96 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: He throws them off. Like it was just up until 97 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: Phil stroked out birdie on the pl you never knew 98 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: what was gonna happen. Like I was, I was waiting 99 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: for a you know, TV Tower to fall over jungle 100 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: Bird from Olympic to show up like it was just 101 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: a sense of anarchy out there was delicious and it 102 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: was fun and it was emotional, and it was just 103 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: just an unforgettable tournament. The crowds, in fact breached security, 104 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: leaving Kepta claiming his bad knee got quote dinged. It 105 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: was bad enough for Seth Wat, the p G as CEO, 106 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: to issue an apology to the players, and it had 107 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: to be Phil, Like who better too, Who better to 108 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: bring back the masses to golf than, as you put it, 109 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: at the people's champion. You know, if Dustin Johnson was 110 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: the perfect champion for a patron less Augusta. Frankly, Phil 111 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: Nicholson kind of had to be the guy to bring 112 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: back the masses of fans and like almost this ticker 113 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: tape like scene kind of coming behind him up on 114 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: eighteen you included Alan, but like very symbolic that he 115 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: was carrying that crowd with him. A million thumbs up 116 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: after a million more thumbs thumbs up, and it felt 117 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: like watching from home, Um, every heart in South Carolina 118 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: was beating for him, pulling for him to pull this off, 119 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: to the point where if he did hit something into 120 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: a crowd, you kind of half expected it to get 121 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: thrown out into a good position, which I'm not so 122 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: shure didn't happen at one point. But it was incredible 123 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: and also so poetic that it was Phil Nicholson kind 124 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: of playing unlike Phil Nicholson that we know, you know, 125 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean that was yeah, that was that was part 126 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: of the emotion that was baked into it. It's just 127 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: it's the most stressful golf course imaginable. I mean, it's 128 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: just visually intimidating. There there are trap doors and bananappeals everywhere. Yeah, 129 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, with that that swing that film made on 130 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: Saturday kind of just flipped the tournament. You know, he 131 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: was cruising and all of a sudden that was the 132 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: dreaded big miss that he brought everyone back into it. 133 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: And you know he fought hard coming home to to 134 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: hang in there and avoid any bogies, but you know, 135 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: made of some loose swings after that. You could see 136 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: that zapped his confidence and it just let it just 137 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: there was this dread that was inside of a golf 138 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: fan because, as he alluded to math, just you know, 139 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Phil has always been a high wire act. Even the 140 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: best of times, and uh, you know he did. He 141 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: was definitely performing without a net out there on the 142 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: Ocean Course because every every bad swing, you know, trouble 143 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: just lurked. And that just added to the to the 144 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: tension of the whole thing. You know, Harding Park, you 145 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: can hit foul balls and you're still in play. Augusta National, 146 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: you can, you can, you can play your misses wingfoot say, 147 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: and you go, You're gonna get down the list of 148 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: championship courses that there's a penalty for missing the ferry, 149 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: but it's not you know, near death experience like at 150 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: the Ocean Course. So that Phil pulled it out on 151 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: this venue of all venues, just added to the drama 152 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: and the sense of disbelief. Crazy to think that. On 153 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: May eleven, Phil tweeted, quote, I've failed many times in 154 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: my life and career, and because of this, I've learned 155 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: a lot. Instead of feeling defeated, countless times, I've used 156 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: it as fuel to drive me to work harder. So today, 157 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: join me in accepting our failures. Let's use them to 158 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: motivate us to work even harder. End quote. That tweet 159 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: was less than two weeks before this win and three 160 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: weeks before his next birthday. Yeah, to do it at 161 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: age fifty, Like, I can't think of another analogy in 162 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: sports where somebody's pulled something like this off. And I've 163 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: been trying to come up with something, and this is 164 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: pretty surreal. I mean, it's it's hard to imagine that 165 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: Phil Nicholson has been at the front ranks of the 166 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: sport for thirty years straight, if not longer. I mean 167 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: even when you go back to his Amazur career's thirty 168 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: five years. He's win USG events, he's winning in c 169 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: l as, he's winning on the PGA Tours and undergraduate 170 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: and everything that's followed. I mean, for sure there was 171 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: a little dip in form two thousand seventeen and two 172 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty, but he was, you know, if he 173 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: had a couple of top three finishes in the lot 174 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: a year and a half, you know, w g C 175 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: in Memphis and at Pebble Beach, and in some ways 176 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: he's bigger than ever with this how he's embraced social 177 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: media and become kind of this goofball, like the corny 178 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: dad jokes, and he's just he's never gone away. And 179 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: you know it's I think The only thing that's comfortable 180 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: is maybe Tom Brady, who's he's not gonna be doing 181 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: it at fifty, but as long as he's lasted um 182 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: in obviously a sport that's more physically demanding than golf. 183 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: But the longevity of Phil is truly incredible. I mean 184 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: Jack Nicholas obviously had the greatest career of all time, 185 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: but you know, he was basically had a quarter century 186 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: and then he faded away. I mean, Phil's outlasted Jack 187 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: from just the standpoint of start to finish. When when 188 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: you're a relevant contender, it's mind boggling. And he's not 189 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: done yet. I mean, now he's probably played his way 190 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: under the Ryder Cup. He's uh, you know, he's he's 191 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: going to Torrey Pines for the US so Open to 192 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: try and get that a loosive national championship on the 193 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: course he grew up on in his hometown. He's always 194 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna be dangerous at Augusta. Like it just keeps going, 195 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: Like just when you thought that we were done with Phil, 196 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: Like you've got five more years of fill in front 197 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: of us, and I don't thin anybody's could play. And 198 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: he brings so much energy and star power to the 199 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: whole thing. To me, he's and he's become the top 200 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, top ten greatest golfers of all time. And 201 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: it came out of it was out of nowhere. Yeah, 202 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: I mean that that's the amazing thing is he hadn't 203 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: even contended the Major since two thousand and sixteen when 204 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: he lost the duel in the in the fog. Then 205 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: your extensive. But you know this this felt a lot 206 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: like the two thousand and nineteen Masters, where everything fell 207 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: into place, you know, and the right guy won. After 208 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: after Tom Watson had his you know, had his heart 209 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: crushed at Turnberry, you had to question how benevolent the 210 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: golf guard gods really are. But just as Tiger in 211 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, Phil, today, all the contenders retreated. I mean, 212 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: no one ever made a run. It feel it just 213 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: like Noer made run a Tiger and gave him space 214 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: to kind of treadwater and to go backwards and forwards. 215 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: And I mean, really, the last twenty seven holes of 216 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: this golf tournament fills just hanging on and in some ways, 217 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, you need an element of luck to win 218 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: these things, and you got lucky that Brooks didn't have 219 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: his best stuff that Louis, you know, shrink from the 220 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: moment that you know, nobody, nobody on the leaderboard did 221 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: anything of note. I mean son m was at four 222 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: under and he disappeared. Uh Patrick Cantlahannah run, He fell 223 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: back like all these guys who could have spoiled the 224 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: party just went away and it was just really as 225 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: the sense that it was meant to be. And I 226 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: mean apart from Watson, which was heartbreaking. Like we'll remember, 227 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: I think it was two thousand and eight that Greg 228 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: Norman almost won the British Up but also though had 229 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: the fifty four the lead and then couldn't really control 230 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: of this golf ball and I think Harrington came snuck 231 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: up and winted on him, which you know, Harrington played 232 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: great this week too, which was great to see. But 233 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: um man, he was in control of that golf ball 234 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: all throughout the day and it was it was something 235 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: to watch. Tom Watson tweeted at Nicholson quote, congrats Phil 236 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: you old man, well done. The fact is that old 237 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: dog had new tricks. In two thousand six he panicked 238 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: and rushed his way to a collapse at Wingfoot. The 239 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: film we saw on this past Sunday slow, and he 240 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: savored every step. Don't you feel like just his whole 241 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: gate and the whole flow of how the day on 242 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: unraveled was so unfeeled, Like, yeah, I was. I was 243 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: standing out in the eighth fairway at Wingfoot, and I 244 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: never forget the way Phil and Bones marched up to 245 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: find that errand drive and how quickly they played the 246 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: second shot, and they felt like this momentum and just 247 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: things were happening and they were powerless to stop it. 248 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: And it's really vivid in my in my in my 249 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: mind's eye. And as you said, you know Phil doing 250 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: his visualization. You know, we talked so much about he 251 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: had to see the shot, and that was part of 252 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: his problem Saturday. You know, late afternoons he lost that 253 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: that clarity and he would just stand there and there 254 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: was a stillness about him and meditative quality. And I 255 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: think that helped his his breathing, it helped us bio rhythms, 256 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: and it certainly helped him execute the shots. And you know, 257 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: they were playing slower, They were a hole behind a 258 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: lot of the time. But I think Phil's crafty enough 259 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: to know there was no chance in hell they were 260 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: gonna get the slow slow play penalty. It just was 261 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. There could have been three holes mine PJ. 262 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: America is not going to ruin the storybook ending by 263 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: giving it Phil Nicholson a slow play penalty, like and 264 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: that that's a crafty move, you know, like Brooks. Brooks 265 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: is a fast player and he's Auntie out there and 266 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: Phil just took a sweet time. I mean, we all 267 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: can agree that that slow play in general is kind 268 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: of a scourge of the game. But in this scenario, 269 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: Phil was going to do his thing and nothing was 270 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: gonna stop him. And it was kind of like a 271 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: picture out there controlling the pace of the game, walking 272 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: around the mound and um, you know, working the red 273 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: of the rosin bag and all that. And I Phil 274 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: have that that sense of like I'm going to control 275 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: this whole thing. I'm gonna slow it down until I'm 276 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: ready to go. And I'm sure Joe Brooks a little crazy, 277 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: but Phil don't care. I mean, he did what he 278 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: had to do. It could be the evolution of Phil, right, 279 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: like we we see people and we see the great evolved. 280 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: Whether you're talking about Jordan's developing the step followay jumper 281 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: late in his career to kind of extend, you know, 282 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: to to take some burden off of his body and 283 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: the beatings he would get. He develops the follow way jumper. Right. 284 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: So now Phil employees um meditation, right, and you see 285 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: him using some of these principles and the breathing before 286 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: he hits putts and the pace with which he walks 287 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: like he's not gonna go into He's too smart to 288 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: go into this and be like, all right, Brooks Kepca, 289 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: let's go Hagler Herns meet in the middle of the 290 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: ring and slug it out. Why would he do that 291 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: with the maybe the biggest puncher in the game. How 292 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: about I'm gonna play my game here, control the golf ball. 293 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to play a very cerebral round around this 294 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: golf course and at a certain cadence and not make 295 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: it into some kind of you know, slug best with Brooks. 296 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: And he did what he had to do, and it 297 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: was beautiful to watch. And he's probably fitter than he's 298 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: been in five years. He's mentally fitter than maybe he's 299 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: ever been in his life. He's probably at a place 300 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: of peace internally where like to your point, Matt earlier, 301 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: are we looking at one of the top ten players 302 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: of all time. I mean, he's not done writing this story. 303 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: I think there's more to come and and I think 304 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: he's also going to inspire other people to do things 305 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: differently in their careers and in their lives. Like I 306 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: loved that moment when you know Herring he's walking to 307 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: the scores tent and players are walking up to congratulate him, 308 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: and John Ron Bram says, I'm so proud of you 309 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: and you know, a way to go, Phil, And it's 310 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: it's the younger players, And all of a sudden he 311 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: has this moment with Patrick Harrington, two guys that have 312 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: been through a lot, you know, and and and won 313 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: a lot of titles, a lot of majors, And I 314 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: would have loved to have heard the words they shared 315 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: right there. Um. I think this is a really important 316 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: win in the history of the game, not just for 317 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: Phil but for our generation of players that you know, 318 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: I mean Streelman out there trying to get things done 319 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: and it was great to watch and I'm excited for him. Well, 320 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: to go back to your analogy of the Jordan the 321 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: fadeaway jumper, the differences, like Phil is now ding the 322 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Gulf equivalent of a three sixty dunk in traffic. The 323 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: way he's added length and explosiveness to his game, I mean, 324 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: it seemed a little silly his obsession with the long 325 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: ball the last few years, but all of a sudden 326 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: he comes to the Ocean Course, which is the longest 327 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: Major Championship venue ever, and he overpowered it in a 328 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: lot of place. Is I mean, look at the sixteenth 329 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: hole today, which was really do or diet for Phil. 330 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: You know, its leads down to two. He's coming off 331 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: some bogies and he matches a three D sixty six 332 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: yard drive which is the longest of the day on 333 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: that whole sets him up for the birdie that really 334 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: slammed the door. And so uh, he's as you know, 335 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: as you point out lads, that he does have this 336 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: this mental game that seems like like a new bag 337 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: of tricks for him. And he talked about how swing 338 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: is more solid and repeatable than it's ever been. Work 339 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: with Andrew gets in. But this explosiveness that Phil has 340 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: added after turning fifty, I mean it's aspirational, like you 341 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: know the I mean Matt Janelle has turned fifty this year, 342 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: Like it's you know, it's not too far behind for 343 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: the rest of us. Like, how cool is it to 344 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: think that you know, your best could be in front 345 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: of you at anything. Feels always been long, feels always 346 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: been long. Yeah, no doubt, I mean that was for sure. 347 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: But he he was starting to lose that. I mean, 348 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: he was becoming the middle of the pack three or 349 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: four years ago and now he's back to being long 350 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: fifty years old. I mean, it's it's an it's an 351 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: incredible achievement. And you know, he had a funny line 352 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: and talking about you know what great physical shape he's 353 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: in is like someone asked, you know, what did you 354 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: have to do? What do you have to sacrifice? He said, food. 355 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: The guy is a prolific eater. There's a lot of 356 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: stories out there, and you know, Tiger used to love 357 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: to make fun of Phil's body, and I've heard some 358 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: some classic tales of how much the guy could eat, 359 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, ten in and out burgers at the time 360 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And it's a real sacrifice that 361 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: that he's made mind, body and soul to put him 362 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: in position to win this golf tournament. You have to 363 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: tip your cap to a guy who he's got all 364 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: the money he's ever gonna need. Presumably he's already the 365 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. But to pay that price and to 366 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: sacrifice and give up so much, I mean, it's it's 367 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: damn impressive. Justin Thomas tweeted, quote, Golf's insane. It's just 368 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: hitting me. The golf ball has no recollection of how 369 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: old you are, and players can compete at any age. 370 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: You just have to work and be willing to sacrifice 371 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: things others aren't. One day it's great, the next day 372 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: it's awful. What a sport I decided to play. I'm 373 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: just as inspired by his drive to stay relevant as 374 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: I am his you know, his success, I mean his 375 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: I just think that he is so accustomed to be 376 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: This is, you know, decades now of being in the spotlight. 377 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 1: And Phil is you know not some guys are not 378 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: good at being in the spotlight, Like Tiger Woods is 379 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: not good at being in spotlight. Uh, Phil is very 380 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: good at being you know, Jack wasn't great at being 381 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: in spotlight, certainly not early on. Um and Phil, Arnie, 382 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali, these guys they they they they they live 383 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: for it, and I think that's a big that's a 384 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: big motivating factor to fill to do what he needs 385 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: to do so that he's not just another name you 386 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: know that starts a tournament. He's a guy who's you know, 387 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: in contention at the end of the tournament. And uh. 388 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: He lives for the you know, the camaraderie, the banter, 389 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: the competition, you know, the fight, and it most often 390 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: brings out the best in him. And he got he 391 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: got close, has gotten close a couple of times. And 392 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: he said, you know that some good golf was coming. 393 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: And as we know, if for four days on any 394 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: given week, a guy can you know, a guy can 395 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: win a golf tournament. It's just that he's done it 396 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: a lot more than most. And uh, and he did 397 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: it again this week at one of the longest, at 398 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: the longest, at one of the toughest, in bad conditions 399 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: against one of the you know, one of the true 400 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: villains of the modern game. At a crowd coming out 401 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: of COVID, it was, I mean, this is this is insanity. Yeah, well, 402 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: you get you've got on something math that's important about 403 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: Phil and behind the seventy second agree. I'm stand next 404 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: to John rom and it feels looking over this putt 405 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: for Birdie, he really doesn't need. Obviously he's got a 406 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 1: two stroke lead, and Rob says, if I know one 407 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: thing about Phil, he really wants to make this putt. 408 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: And it was just a cute little moment that that 409 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: was also instructive. I mean, Phil is a showman and 410 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: he thrives off the energy of the crowd and he 411 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: loves the bright lights. And that's part of what's kept 412 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: in going. You know, as you said, for Tiger, all 413 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: that was a burden. You know, Tiger would have loved 414 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: to have played in a vacuum, whereas it feels the opposite. 415 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: He he's energized and he he really is a ham 416 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: and obviously it's hurt him a few times. He's taken 417 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: on some crazy shots and and they've they've blown up. 418 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: But I think that's what keeps him engaged is and 419 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: he just wants to show off. He wants to do 420 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: things to make people go wow. And that's part of 421 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: it gets about of Bed, that's what keeps coming back 422 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: year after year, and all these guys who burn out 423 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: and fade away, and I like, take take King Louis right, 424 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: who's we all know is it has this incredible golf game, 425 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: but he doesn't want that smoke. I think the last 426 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: thing he wants to do is win a major championship 427 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: with all the hassle and all the attention, and you know, saying, 428 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: like Freddie Couples, there's a million guys who have his 429 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: as much physical talent as Phil, but they don't live 430 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: for it like he does, and that that's really a 431 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: defining factor in in a sport where you have no 432 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: teammates and you cannot hide and you're all alone between 433 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: the ropes and uh, you know Phil, just the way 434 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I was out there four days falling and 435 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: you know I would falling Tiger for a million majors 436 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: when the crowd was in such a frenzy, but Tiger 437 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: diminished it because he had that thousand yards stare. He 438 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: didn't interact with the fans and he didn't engage with them, 439 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: and that that kind of mellowed things out. But Phil smiling, 440 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: he's laughing, he's the thumbs up. People are making comments, 441 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: and he's kind of given a little a little nod, 442 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: you know, the bro nod and um, and that just 443 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: winds him up more because they feel seen and heard 444 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: and validated. But that's a choice that Phil makes, like 445 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: he wants to keep it going. He needs that connection. 446 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: It's almost a visceral for him, and almost every other 447 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: player you can think of is the opposite. They don't 448 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: want their space invaded. They'd rather play in a bubble. 449 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: And it gives Phil a huge advantage coming down the 450 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: stretch of these tournaments when uh, you know, everyone's overserved 451 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: and sun baked and and the energy is getting a 452 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: little frenetic. But he can handle it and he can 453 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: channel it, and I think other guys it puts him 454 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: out of the comfort zone. But Watson tweeted, Yep, you're 455 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: still the best lefty in the game. Congrats. You two 456 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: grew up here. Do you remember him from his kids. 457 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: I didn't hear about feel until he got to college, 458 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: and I remember John Garretty wrote him up in Sports Illustrated, 459 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: and that was way before I was part of the magazine, 460 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: and in fact I was. I was talking to Aaron 461 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: Oberholzer about Phil and he said, yeah, you know, I 462 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: heard this little buzz about this guy, and I drove 463 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: to to Stanford to watch him play a tournament and 464 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: because I was just curious, and you know you it 465 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: was just driving range talk like that's all that existed 466 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: back then. You know, it's hard to imagine a life 467 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: before the Internet, but you know, it feels old enough 468 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: that he bringed that gap. And so he whereas you know, Tiger, 469 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: he won his first US Amateur the same year the 470 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: Golf Channel launched, and so Tiger has been exhaustively covered 471 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: his entire life. But Phil got to ease into it 472 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, all through junior golf and 473 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: even the start of his college career. And so there's 474 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: a little fundamental difference. And h and how they the 475 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: relationship they had with the Spotlight. But yeah, I didn't 476 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: know about Phil until you got the Arizona State. But 477 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: had you heard any rumblings, Matt, No, I mean I'm 478 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: much the same I you know, I covered my sports 479 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: through Sports Illustrated and ESPN, you know, uh and uh, 480 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: you know, in college I definitely knew. I mean, you know, 481 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: I was Fred Couple's guy. I was Ashworth guy. I 482 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: was you know, and I remember, you know, I remember 483 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: Phil with the collars up, and I remember him, you know, 484 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: being a you know, a notable sports figure before I 485 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: got to Sports Illustrated, which was and then once I 486 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: got to Sports Illustrated, it was. You know, I got 487 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: really hyper focused on the game of golf and started 488 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: as the photo editor the same week that Tiger started 489 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: as a pro. And so I mean that ninety six 490 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: I started, you know, learning a lot, you know, very 491 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: quickly about Phil and all that was happening. But I 492 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: just I just think that, um, I just think this 493 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: is crazy. This has been such a gift. I think, 494 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, Beach, I said, what did we possibly you know, 495 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: do to deserve Tiger in a at Augusta and Phil 496 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: now winning another major? And you know, for me and 497 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: my generation to think that we got to witness uh, 498 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: not only Tiger but Phil and this this idea of 499 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Tiger and Phil. I mean Phil early on became the 500 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: anti Tiger. Tiger was cheap, Phil over tipped. Tiger wouldn't 501 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 1: talk to the press. Phil would give give him an 502 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: hour and a half. You know, uh this, you know, 503 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: Tiger shot away from the media. Phil embraced it. Tiger 504 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: was right, he Phil was lefty. I mean, the whole 505 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: thing was has been genius. This has been a it 506 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: just seemingly master plan by a guy who, uh is 507 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: is so aware of everything was you know, He's become 508 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: a cartoon character quite frankly, so today it really felt 509 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: like we were watching like a Marvel comics come to life. 510 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 1: I mean, this was like, oh my god, it's like 511 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: Iron Man. I mean, he's he's flying around and doing things, 512 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, in a suit. It was I was like, 513 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I still right now, I can't believe that 514 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: this actually happened. Tiger Woods tweeted, truly inspirational to see 515 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: Phil do it again at fifty years of age. Congrats 516 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: six exclamation points. My little guys too young to really 517 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: process what took place because he's for But how many 518 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: kids talk about grow the game and we can talk 519 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: blue in our face about first Tea and p G, 520 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: junior leagues and youth on course and you know, drive 521 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: Chip and Pott. But you know, at the end of 522 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: the day, now, the two greatest growth game initiatives in 523 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: my generation are Tiger Woods and Phil Nicholson. And Phil 524 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: just put another supercharge into a game that's already flying 525 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: on high. Yeah. Well, when you when you talk about 526 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 1: the Tiger Phil duo, an important distinction is, you know, 527 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: Tiger's introvert and fills an extrovert and a lot of 528 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: flows from that, and Tiger felt like all he had 529 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: to give the fans was his best and that's all 530 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: he owed them. And and Phil has always taken it. 531 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: You know. Arnold Palmer was his role model that you 532 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: have to give something back and you have to um, 533 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: you know that you are working for the fans, and 534 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: so what when there's there's a story from early in 535 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: his career where Phil sign autographs and his his PR 536 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: guy Um t r Hinman, who was then just a reporter, 537 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: is like, um, He's like, Phil, what are you doing? Man, 538 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: Like get out of the rain. You know. I was like, Hey, 539 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm working here. You know that. That's how he looked 540 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: at it, like he was going to give his hour 541 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: a day to sign autographs. And there's some people may 542 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: think it's phony or calculated, but the bob line is, 543 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: you know he was giving people what they crave that 544 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: you could never get from Tiger, that just that little 545 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: bit of of something and um, so yeah, I mean 546 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: you could really feel it today like Tiger will always 547 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: be revered, but Phil is beloved, and it's just different. 548 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: There's just there's just a fundamental difference between the two 549 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: of them, and um, there was just a sense of 550 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: joy out there, you know, what the Masters with the 551 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: Tiger one of nineteen was was Catharsis like kind of 552 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: people needed it. We needed to put a bow on 553 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: everything that Tiger had been through, from the sex scandal 554 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: to the d U I UM and they just there 555 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: needed to be complete that ark and I think there 556 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: was a sense of relief that he did it. And 557 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: with Phil it was it was just it was giddiness 558 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: and they just they just inspired different emotions and that's okay. 559 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean there are different characters and that they give 560 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: us different things, but you could feel a love that 561 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: that surrounds Phil and it was palpable. Ian Poulter tweeted 562 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: major respect age is just a number. I remember being 563 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: about fourteen the first time I heard his name. There 564 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: was a playoff to go to what was then called 565 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: the Optimist Junior World Tournament, and it was that Rich 566 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: Acres golf course right by it's literally under like one 567 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: of the runways at Minneapolis Airport now. But the kid 568 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: that one said to a kid that lost, like, um, yeah, 569 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: there's there's this kid there named Phil Nicholson. He's really good. 570 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: And then there's the South African kid that's built like 571 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: a dad. Like those two guys kind of kick everybody's ass. 572 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: And of course it was Phil and Ernie else and 573 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: so I remember kind of this, you know, and you 574 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: would see, you know, things in the newspaper about the 575 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: junior world. And then I remember him in college and 576 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: I remember him winning, you know, and and it was 577 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: just amazing to me. And he then kind of became 578 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: the showman like loved himself, loved being Phil, loved the 579 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: pop collar, the frat boy hair, the Jick Janis bag 580 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: was sweet, I will say that. Um, then he kind 581 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: of fulfilled, you know. Then you had heartbreak Phil Right, 582 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: Payne Stewart makes the ft or at Pinehurst, David Tom's Jars, 583 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: a hole in one at Atlanta Athletic Club, denying Phil 584 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: of these titles that everyone wanted him to win even 585 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: back then. You know. Then we get to that run 586 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: of Winds kind of in the early two thousands, and Matt, 587 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I think he knew he 588 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: was gonna win when he woke up today. I think 589 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: he knew he was gonna win. I sensed that he 590 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: had to fight that battle to keep down the hero 591 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: Phil and let the thinking Phil, the breathing fill the 592 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 1: meditative Phil step forward today in those conditions and get 593 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: it done. I think he knew he could do that, 594 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: and I think he knew he was gonna win. Well, 595 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: it's possible, I think. I think the other thing is 596 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: is I think these tools he worked on to his credit, 597 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: physical shape, mental shape, you know, going through a routine, 598 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: because it was very different than than what we've seen 599 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: of his past. This was a different This is a 600 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: different guy today and and you've got to give him 601 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for you know, the self evolution 602 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: and to get him to a place where he could 603 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: do what he did today. Even those sunglasses he's wearing, 604 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: and I use this line in my story, but it's 605 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 1: a little bit like you know, hiding behind the tinted 606 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: windows of a limbousine, like there's it just creates a 607 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: barrier between him and the fans. And even though as 608 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about earlier, there's that connection, I think it 609 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: just gave him a little shield where it helped them focus. 610 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: And you know, the tools that you're talking about run 611 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: really deep. I mean, people don't know this about Phil 612 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: but he's really into numerology and astrology. And I think, 613 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: as you saying, like he he felt it was in 614 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: the stars for him to do this at some point, 615 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: I think that that was sort of his guiding light 616 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: and in some ways like he felt it had to happen, 617 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: that there was an element of destiny and and he 618 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: fulfilled it. Here. Fantastic golf this week in Tiua. It's 619 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: played great. He didn't make any dumb mistakes, which is, 620 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, the whole key of winning a major championship. 621 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: You played the golf person dangerous as it is, he 622 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: played it very very well. My congratulations to you. And 623 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's something something, sir, strikes me that fifty 624 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: years old was older than forty six. Well done, my friend. 625 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: Let's go many more. Good luck. You know, Jack Nicholas 626 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, Walter Hagen has eleven majors. Hogan has nine majors, 627 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: Gary Player has nine majors, Watson has eight, Palmer has seven, 628 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: Snead has seven, sarahsn has seven, Bobby Jones has seven, 629 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 1: Harry Vardon has seven, followed Ope, Michelson and Trevino have six. 630 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, so top ten players of all time for me. 631 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: You know, God love Harry. Harry Vardon awesome, but feels 632 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: above that. I think feels above Follodo now feels above 633 00:37:54,200 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: Lee Trevino. So I mean, now you're Sarazan, Sneed, Palmer, Watson, Player, Ogan, Hagen, Woods, Nicholas. 634 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: I mean now for me that he's in the top ten, 635 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: Now that's where he that's where he is, that's uh, 636 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: you know, that's where he belonged. Yeah, and tollas his point, 637 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: I mean, Walter Hagen can't taking anything away from that guy. 638 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: What a character or what a player. But you know, 639 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: did you do it for thirty years against stock competition, 640 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: against athletes that were fully optimized from Bobby Jones? Is awesome? Great? 641 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: You know, uh retired at a young age. You know, 642 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: could have done more. But this is the this is 643 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: the modern era of sports golf. I mean, you know, 644 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: first Tiger Woods and over the way Bernie Els and 645 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: Fred Couples and Davis Love and Colin you know, I 646 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: mean multiple tours global, you know Seene, I mean, to 647 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: give me a break, he's in. It might be in 648 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: the top five, but like and then you know, then 649 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: like the heartbreak, right like Payne Stewart at Pinehurst, David Toms, 650 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: like the close six second places in US Open, six 651 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: second place, you know that's That's one thing that we 652 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: don't give Nicholas enough credit for that, the number of 653 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: second place finishes he has. But Phil man, you know, 654 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: and I think maybe that is what has endeared him 655 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: so much to people. He's the beautiful loser, right and 656 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: and but he's also the winner. He's the loser and 657 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: the winner does both rights. He's everything we love in 658 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: this country, right. He's the guy that comes so close 659 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: and then finally makes it. And he's a showman, right. 660 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: He's not a robot. He's not the soulless assassin that 661 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: is coming to take you out. He is a sportsman. 662 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: He is a showman. He is the people's champion. He 663 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: is the most gregarious athlete that this sport has seen 664 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: since Arnold Palmer. I would say, oh, by the way 665 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: he's played, He's played on every team event going back 666 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: to how far out, and he might he might be 667 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: a part of this Ryder Cup at Whistling Straights. I 668 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: asked you Stricker that on Friday, you know, is Phil 669 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: you know in under consideration Now he's like, oh jeez, 670 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, because I mean, how much weight can 671 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: you put on one week out of five years? But 672 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: as the point Sterricker made is that the Ocean course 673 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: has plays very similar to Whistling Straits and that this 674 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: one week carries a lot of weight and if you 675 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: want guys who can you can handle the heat. I mean, 676 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: of course, the contradiction with Philly. He doesn't have a 677 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: great Ryder Cup record, but he's the heart and soul 678 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: of the American side in a lot of ways. I 679 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: think I don't think Sez Trick has the stones and 680 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: not to pick um. Hopefully he'll use him judiciously, and 681 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, it's I mean, I don't I don't 682 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 1: know how we wrapped this up other than to say 683 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 1: that what a great champion and we are lucky to 684 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: be golf fans and chroniclers during the mix sneer because 685 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 1: he made it fun. He just made it fun with 686 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: more than anything. You brought a certain levity to it. 687 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: And you you know, as Lass was saying, the rarest 688 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: commodity in sports as class, and Phil in victory defeat 689 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: as exuded class. And he's just been He's livens up 690 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: every room he's in and I'm grateful to have had 691 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: him through the thick and the theme of the Tiger, 692 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: and he's still going. I mean, he's just a live wire. 693 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,919 Speaker 1: He's just fun. Uh. That's that's how I think about Phil. 694 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady tweeted, that's my quarterback. LF. Gee, let's fucking 695 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: go to which Phil tweeted, we have some unfinished business. 696 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 1: Let's get another match and find a pair to give 697 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: a beat down before we get to final thoughts on 698 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,240 Speaker 1: the impact a win like this could have on something 699 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: like the Premier Golf League and or the Super Golf League. 700 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you for listening and 701 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: show some appreciation for our partners at part points who 702 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 1: have developed an app that changes the way we score 703 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: the game. Here's Alan Schipluck on why this app has 704 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: piqued our interest. I mean, when you think about the 705 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: game as long as it's been around, the best thing 706 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: you could come up with as an alternate scoring system 707 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: with a stable for and that's it. I just you know, 708 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: when basketball you can play horse, you can yeah, you 709 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: have three pointers, you have two pointers, you have one pointers, 710 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: like yeah. Like the golf is so static. There's just 711 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: not a lot of different ways to compete. So I 712 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: love the idea of just introducing a new format because 713 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: they're so rare in this sport, download part points and 714 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: go make par It's a good time to be getting old. 715 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: Is it a good time for the Is this? Is 716 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: this a good thing for the PGLZ Now? I think 717 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: this drives a stake through its heart because, like Lee 718 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: Westwood said, yeah, I would do it. You know, I'm 719 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: forty years old and they're gonna offer me this money. 720 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't make the money anymore realistic. Phil 721 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: just earn himself another quarter billion dollars, you know, with 722 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: all the endorsements and all the ancillary income, like he 723 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: needs Saudi Arabia and and that whole scene less than 724 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: he did two days ago. Like he's gonna make so 725 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: much money off this win, endorsements and everything else. It's like, 726 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: does he want to have to spend twelve or fourteen 727 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 1: weeks a year in the Middle East? Nah? He's good. 728 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, um, I think his you know, his, he 729 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 1: just cemented his place in the marketplace for you know, 730 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: until he until he takes his last breath. So I 731 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: think feels good.