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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite things about the Super Bowl is

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Speaker 3: I go on Twitter as the halftime thing and I

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Speaker 3: get fifty like visceral hatred and fifty visceral.

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Speaker 1: That's the greatest thing I've ever seen. Right away, I

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Speaker 1: literally could not care. Andy hard Love Katie Perry. I

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Speaker 1: thought that was terrible.

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Speaker 2: I don't like, but you don't have to.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know about that. That took a turn.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to play, just because his name allows you

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Speaker 2: to be both happy in that.

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Speaker 1: So if he has a good game, eften chism.

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Speaker 2: If he has a bad game, eften chism.

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Speaker 1: Right, it works both ways, brilliance or friend. I will

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Speaker 1: take the Colts, but I will take the seven. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot of points. You'll take the seven?

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Speaker 2: How big is your unit?

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Speaker 2: the Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Here at Jillette Stadium, and let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: For and two babies set them up. We'll just knock

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Speaker 2: him down. Just bring them on, just bring them on

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Speaker 2: in a row. Yeah, it's three in a row, going

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Speaker 2: on the road for hopefully three in a row on

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Speaker 2: the road to Tennessee. But a lot to digest from

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Speaker 2: the Saints game. Drake May continues to just I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, just show us, show us what he can do

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Speaker 1: in a good way.

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Speaker 2: It's it's amazing the leap that he's had since last year.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, amazed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, probably maybe we'd have used it every week

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Speaker 2: any day. No, it's good, it's good stuff. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I think the best thing that I like coming out

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Speaker 2: of this game, and again it's it's Evan, it's Paul,

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Speaker 2: it's me, it's Deuce, Matt and Alex in the booth.

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Speaker 2: The thing that I like best coming out of the

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Speaker 2: game Sunday was the maturity of the team one overcoming

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Speaker 2: some questions, I'll be nice, questionable officiating and not letting

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Speaker 2: it affect them, not letting penalties derail drives for example.

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Speaker 2: You know other editions of the Patriots that would have

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Speaker 2: that's it. They would never recover. And then after the game,

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Speaker 2: the mood wasn't like woo, it was no, we left

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Speaker 2: a lot on that field and we need to be better.

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Speaker 2: And to me, that's showing maturity of it. They want more,

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Speaker 2: they want more.

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Speaker 3: I agree with That was the number one thing that

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Speaker 3: impressed me was the performance. I feel like they played

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Speaker 3: think that's great that they think that they're capable of it.

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Speaker 3: But I think they all the things that people worried

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Speaker 3: abutt really didn't manifest, like are they going to be

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Speaker 1: They're going to come out flat.

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Speaker 3: They gave up the bomb on the first play, Okay,

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Speaker 3: so I do recognize that. But then they immediately regathered

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Speaker 3: themselves and come up with a red zone stop, something

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Speaker 3: that hasn't really happened a lot this year. The red

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Speaker 3: zone defense has been a problem. It wasn't a problem

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Speaker 3: on Sunday offensively, I mean, come on, you come out

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Speaker 3: and score touchdowns on three your first four drives of

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Speaker 3: the game. YEP, didn't finish as well as they would

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Speaker 3: have liked, but I just thought they were approaching it.

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Speaker 3: They were not flat, and even the freaking come out flat.

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Speaker 3: They came out ready to play.

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Speaker 2: Even that first play. It wasn't because they were flats,

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Speaker 3: I think that was a little bit of a an

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Speaker 3: you know. I thought overall, the Patriots played a really,

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it's all about may I mean that For me,

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Speaker 4: But we've been talking about it for what five years now,

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Speaker 4: trying to get this quarterback, and I'm just amazed by

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Speaker 2: But you bring up a good point, because there was

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Speaker 2: I mean otherwise, and I'm just talking about the offense

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Speaker 4: first time I saw Diggs and I was like, there's

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Speaker 4: saw little subtle hints that it might be coming, but

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Speaker 4: it didn't necessarily translate to you know, perfect consistency throughout

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Speaker 1: And those things are starting to go away.

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Speaker 4: Now he seems like he's buying time, he's stepping up

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Speaker 1: So, you know, the the I mean, the.

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Speaker 4: Sky's the limit for this kid right now. He just

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Speaker 2: Can you say about Kaishan Boody. I mean, everything that

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Speaker 1: He's he's I mean, he's really.

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Speaker 2: He's talk about consistency this year, he's been mister consistent.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been really good. I think really the main

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Speaker 5: it's at an elite level right now. Like there's just

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Speaker 5: not very many instances on tape where he's throwing the

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, when you have a quarterback

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Speaker 5: the structure and the concepts of the offense to get

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Speaker 5: it's really fun to watch. It's it's great to see it.

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Speaker 5: It's fun to watch. His tape is basically flawless. Like

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Speaker 5: the last three weeks, it's very hard to find things

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Speaker 5: He's not putting the ball in harm's way as much.

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Speaker 5: His ball security in the pocket is significantly improved. He's

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Speaker 5: So this is an elite level quarterback play. He's playing

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Speaker 5: know last week, we got some calls about MVP, and

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Speaker 5: you know those types of discussions.

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Speaker 1: You're going to continue to get him.

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Speaker 5: He is in the conversation. It's six weeks into the season.

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Speaker 5: It's really early still, but MVP, All Pro, Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: We'll see if he can continue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's week six, so you know, we

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Speaker 1: But we got to show to do today. And right

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Speaker 1: now he's an MVP guy.

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Speaker 2: Right now, he's playing at that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm with Evan.

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Speaker 3: I just off season everybody, all anybody ever wants to

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Speaker 1: How do you how do they look? What do you?

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Speaker 3: And I always said the same thing, and out of

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Speaker 3: seven eight wins, you know they'll be improved. They've they've

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Speaker 3: with my caveat unless Drake may does X and we've

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Speaker 3: The Buffalo game was incredible, right, some of the individual

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Speaker 3: This game, to me was far more impressive because the

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Speaker 3: why did you run to the right there. All you

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Speaker 3: there was pressure in the pocket. It wasn't like the

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Speaker 3: pass protection is flawless, But he's just navigating around. He's

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Speaker 3: making throws down field while guys are tugging on his shirt.

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Speaker 3: He's sliding subtly one way or the other, keeping his

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Speaker 3: and not like Kevin said, there's no real I think

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Speaker 3: he might have had a turnover where they play. It

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Speaker 3: might have been his quarterback sneak that he fumbled on. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that he ends up like just landing on the ball.

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Speaker 1: That I mean.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they record for these but coctametric sites,

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Speaker 3: but I don't see anything resembling a turnover for a

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Speaker 3: while now, and that's the secret sauce. When May doesn't

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Speaker 3: turn the ball over, they win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing.

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Speaker 3: And he's responsible for them winning, like he's putting the

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean there's turnover where they play rate

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Speaker 1: Like Pop Douglas.

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Speaker 3: The first touchdown was a play action a little bit boom.

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Speaker 3: That was unbelievable coverage. You must have had a fun

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Speaker 2: Designed, you know, like getting that leverage and you know,

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Speaker 5: you keep doing against him, they they're making them pay

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Speaker 5: Well, this is my point, is that they're putting eight

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Speaker 1: And that's the chess match.

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Speaker 5: Once that starts to happen, now there's more rooms.

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Speaker 2: So you think the running woes is because of eight

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Speaker 5: I think it's a big part of it. Now, there's

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Speaker 5: definitely other elements to it. It's not the only thing,

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Speaker 5: the Patriots is that they don't have the talent on

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Speaker 5: you can put your corners on islands, and the Patriots

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Speaker 1: Beat your coverage.

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Speaker 5: And through six weeks they are third in the league

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Speaker 1: At an elite level.

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Speaker 5: So at some point the adjustment has to come back

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Speaker 5: the other way and the Patriots are going to be

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Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you because I know sometimes the

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Speaker 1: Lot of you know, did you see that, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Did you feel like that was a conscious choice to

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Speaker 1: We're going to play a lot of Cover one to

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Speaker 5: you know, Matt Collins, and they don't think the Patriots

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Speaker 1: And that's that's why.

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Speaker 5: still not run the ball at that point? Yeah, let's see,

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Speaker 5: because right now that it's that's the blueprint and the

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Speaker 3: And that's one of the things when we talked about

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: The only game that they really didn't look good offensively

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: The other five games, I think they've they've been pretty Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sorry x's thank you, And you're starting to see some

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Speaker 3: And you got you got three, you know, three passes

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Speaker 5: Three touchdowns, the three touchdowns, Like that's like that's directly

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Speaker 2: The trip to the end zone where they got down

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Speaker 1: That was a wastee. That's got to be a touchdown

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're rush offense. Like I said, there's multiple reasons

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Speaker 1: And I who haven't fun.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want to get to because, like you know,

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Speaker 2: Like it's almost like a relief. Okay, it's just a

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Speaker 5: You know, there's some culprits of that, you know, in

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Speaker 5: In this game, they went backwards six times, they had

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Speaker 1: Runs, and they had a lot of guys in the backfield.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's a season high. It was not

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Speaker 5: that they're going to have to clean up. But you know,

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Speaker 5: like they're only going to win four games because they

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Speaker 2: Like you'd rather have the problem now be running rather

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: They're four and two, so like they're not losing games

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Speaker 5: because of this necessarily, But the run blocking is an issue.

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Speaker 5: So you know, you just can't you can't have those

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: And then I also think I truly believe that Remandre's mind,

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think there's probably a little too to that.

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Speaker 3: because there was you know, I'm not suggesting that you

442
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Speaker 3: were one of these guys, but there was this notion

443
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Speaker 3: that it's the blocking's fine, it's all on the backs,

444
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 3: like you know, the EPA is. You know this, and

445
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,639
Speaker 3: I know Henderson in particular, I think has a negative EPA,

446
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 3: one of the worst in the league. There have been opportunities,

447
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Speaker 3: I think individually with big plays like they might have

448
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Speaker 3: like a twelve yard run where it's there and a

449
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Speaker 3: guy's missing a cut or not seeing it right and

450
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Speaker 3: not maximizing a big play, and I know that can

451
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Speaker 3: skew the numbers. I don't think there's been a ton

452
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Speaker 3: of that. I think there's been a lot. Now, this

453
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Speaker 3: might have been the worst game to Evans point. He

454
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Speaker 3: has the numbers, so I'm going to trust him. Where

455
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Speaker 3: they have the atration, like.

456
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Speaker 5: Yeaheen yards before contact for the entire game.

457
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Speaker 3: You go on that that goal line, you know, sequence again,

458
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Speaker 3: so it's first and goal from the two. Right, you

459
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Speaker 3: got a one yard run, maybe even inside the one,

460
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Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that, and a goal line, good tough run.

461
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Speaker 3: The next one you lose three yards and they had

462
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Speaker 3: no shot, They had no chance on that. It was

463
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Speaker 3: one of those I think, you know, like if you

464
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Speaker 3: go back and look, I think we were talking about

465
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Speaker 3: Godja like pointing like he's.

466
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Speaker 1: Like Wilson find up off the line like you could.

467
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're tipping it.

468
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Speaker 3: You know, the inexperience that picked you know that tipping

469
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Speaker 3: the power or whatever the play is going to be.

470
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Speaker 3: I don't want to get too much in ex of those,

471
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Speaker 3: that's not my thing. But like it just looks like

472
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Speaker 3: they know what's coming. Yeah, and that's not the running

473
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Speaker 3: back's fault. I know he's he probably is trading on

474
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Speaker 3: old the ball. But no, no, this was this was like

475
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Speaker 3: a narrative last week that suddenly developed.

476
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Speaker 5: Because the metrics are you know, back that up for

477
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Speaker 5: the first five weeks of the season. Your eyes don't, okay,

478
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Speaker 5: but I'm just I'm not telling you that the run

479
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 5: blocking was fantastic. I'm telling you I said definitely wasn't

480
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 5: on that ye're blocking about the first five weeks of

481
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Speaker 5: the season. And still like the Patriots right now are

482
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Speaker 5: thirty second in the league and yards after contact generated

483
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Speaker 5: by their running backs, so the worst tackle breaking running

484
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Speaker 5: back group in the league.

485
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Speaker 3: It's not a very explosive, so they don't break. Henderson

486
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Speaker 3: has been running right into tacklers. I mean, I think

487
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Speaker 3: that's active, they don't.

488
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Speaker 5: Break any tackles, they don't add any yards onto the blocking.

489
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Speaker 5: So in this game, I'm not this game was separate

490
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Speaker 5: like this gamestand what you're saying. The first five weeks

491
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Speaker 5: of the season, I think they should have been the

492
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Speaker 5: twentieth best run blocking running team instead of the thirty second.

493
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Speaker 5: So I can live with that, right, they were talking

494
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Speaker 5: about and what we deal with this, like you know, oh,

495
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Speaker 5: this yard is all over the field, just the running

496
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Speaker 5: backs of the problem.

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Speaker 1: You got to get rid of Stevenson.

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Speaker 5: It's like the running backs are a problem, to be clear,

499
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Speaker 5: a problem, not the problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, but the right they just explained it perfectly.

501
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Speaker 5: I think they need more from the running game, and

502
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 5: they need more from the running backs. Like I get it,

503
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 5: he's fumbled the ball three times, he fumbled it seven

504
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 5: times last year. It's in his head. And I totally

505
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 5: understand that with Ramandre Stevenson. But you know, they they

506
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 5: can't really get away with this, like they just don't

507
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 5: have enough production on the ground and they don't break

508
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Speaker 5: any tackles. So like when you look at the great

509
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Speaker 5: running backs, are the guys that are adding yards to

510
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Speaker 5: what's blocked because.

511
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Speaker 1: Barkley, like Christian McCaffrey.

512
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Speaker 5: Those guys are breaking tackles, they're making guys miss, they're

513
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Speaker 5: seeing cutback lanes and setting up blocks to make blocks

514
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 5: better to ten. Yeah, and they just don't get that

515
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Speaker 5: out of their backs. But you know, the other thing

516
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Speaker 5: that I think really stood out to me in this

517
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Speaker 5: one was just a little bit with the rookies, Like

518
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Speaker 5: I just I didn't really think either rookie run blocked

519
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Speaker 5: particularly well. I think in particular, you know, Jared Wilson

520
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 5: was rough. Uh, And so I think that there's room

521
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Speaker 5: to grow for both of those guys significantly. And you know,

522
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Speaker 5: well it's just like, yeah, I think there's room to girl.

523
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

524
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Speaker 4: I mean I've noticed these games over my career now

525
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Speaker 4: of like like there's certain games where it's like a

526
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Speaker 4: pot pourri of whose turn is it to make a

527
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 4: mistake this time? You know, and it's like it's never

528
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: just one thing that you point to and you're like, man,

529
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Speaker 4: just you know the left tackle, Like it was like

530
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 4: one of those games where it's like and now you're

531
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Speaker 4: going to screw up, and now this guy who hasn't

532
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 4: screwed up, he's going to screw up. You know, like

533
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Speaker 4: I've seen those games before and that's why I have

534
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Speaker 4: a little bit of hope along with like not breaking

535
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 4: tackles like that feeds into me to the verable thing

536
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Speaker 4: of stop worrying about fumbling, Like you got to just

537
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 4: try to get away from guys. You can't just the

538
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 4: second somebody's going to hit you and crumble. You know,

539
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Speaker 4: hopefully they get some confidence maybe like they do start.

540
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Speaker 3: An example of that where I would say Evans analysis

541
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Speaker 3: is is on with the third and seven.

542
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Speaker 1: Draw that we all hated.

543
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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the first half of the one drive in

544
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: the first half that resulted in no points third and

545
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: seven draw, Like there's not a lot of contact there,

546
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Speaker 3: and like Stevenson just goes down.

547
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, but.

548
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 5: Like you know, stay on your feet. But yeah, it

549
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Speaker 5: just it's tough to watch their run game at times

550
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 5: because if it's situationally good, then I think you can

551
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 5: get away with it. If they're good in short yardage,

552
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 5: if they're good on the goal line, like those types

553
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Speaker 5: of things.

554
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Speaker 3: The second iteration of the dynasty basically was that it

555
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: was a Brady heavy offense, but when it was formulted offense,

556
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Speaker 3: they could grind out first downs when it's goal to

557
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 3: goal situations, they could run it in with Garrett Blunt

558
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: and those kinds of guys. You know, now, situationally it's

559
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 3: all on May like you're third and eleven because you

560
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Speaker 3: can't run the ball at all at the end of

561
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Speaker 3: the game. Well, now, fortunately May's played at such a

562
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Speaker 3: high level it hasn't mattered.

563
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Speaker 2: So it's as Evan said, it's first world problems. And

564
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Speaker 2: you know that's a developing story the run game. But

565
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Speaker 2: right now the big story is Drake may Uh is

566
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: amazing as we started the thing. And the other development

567
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: is Efton Chisholm returning kicks.

568
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Speaker 1: He's just one make a step away.

569
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Speaker 2: He's one step away from getting in there.

570
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Speaker 1: He got two snaps on offense, both kneel downs. He

571
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Speaker 1: want him there on.

572
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 4: Those neil downs just so no one could we need it,

573
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Speaker 4: just so no one could say we're going to see

574
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Speaker 4: him on offense.

575
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Speaker 1: Yes, they say, what you did?

576
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Speaker 2: And I think he looked adequate returning kicks he got

577
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: up there.

578
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 5: You know, it's a Rabel's talked a lot about wanting

579
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 5: that play to be like a weapon for them. Without Henderson,

580
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 5: it's not going to be a weapon. Like if they

581
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 5: don't have Henderson and Gibson back there. Gibson Gibson's hurt,

582
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 5: so obviously he's not going to be back there.

583
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: Now.

584
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Speaker 5: It's more like, can we get the thirty yard line

585
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 5: and not turn it over? And I guess that's just

586
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 5: the world that they're gonna have, not.

587
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: Turning it over. Yeah, yeah, fifteen fouls all right, and

588
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: we did hit seventeen foul walls.

589
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: Good stuff, good stuff, all right?

590
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Speaker 8: Anything else before we turn over to talk about the

591
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 8: defense a little bit because I, you know, Ivan after

592
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 8: further review and you know, and I and it's uh

593
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 8: interesting to me.

594
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Speaker 4: Because you know, we said Spencer Ratler completes a lot

595
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Speaker 4: of passes, and you know, really, my my impression was,

596
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Speaker 4: I I started things off with giving Spencer Ratler some credit.

597
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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I didn't the pressure numbers were weird.

598
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Speaker 4: I mean, by what next Gen said, this was like

599
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Speaker 4: the best Patriots pressure game of the whole season, which,

600
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Speaker 4: you know, to Paul's eyeball test, didn't really totally jive

601
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 4: with me. But I do think that Spencer Ratler did

602
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 4: a good job of navigating quickly and getting the ball

603
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Speaker 4: out quickly, and you know, My impression, and Evan wrote

604
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Speaker 4: about it too, is you know, it seemed like we're

605
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 4: going to give some cushion. We're not going to get

606
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 4: beat over the top by these fast guys, and we're

607
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 4: just gonna come up and see if Spencer Ratler can

608
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 4: continually execute and complete passes and not make mistakes. And

609
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Speaker 4: I kind of think he did, you know, and it's

610
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 4: it's they completed a lot, and you know what, for

611
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: me watching the tape, it's just frustrating because it's.

612
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Speaker 1: Like, you know, what do you do? Do you do

613
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: you press them more? Do you try to live the sword,

614
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: die by the sword and be.

615
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 4: Willing to give up some big plays but try to

616
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: take away the But it seemed right off the bat

617
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: they wanted.

618
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: To blitz him pressures that he's been doing this. This

619
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 2: wasn't like an outlier for him. His completion even.

620
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: Better than it's been.

621
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Speaker 3: But I agree with Mike. I was expecting a lot

622
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 3: of little dump offs and checkdowns.

623
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: I was.

624
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: I'm with Mike. I was impressed with Rattler in this game.

625
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: I thought he played well. I thought he got the

626
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: ball down the field. But Patriots had three plays. I mean,

627
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, four players of twenty one or more yards.

628
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: The Saints had three. Yeah, let me ask you question.

629
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Speaker 1: I was surprised by that.

630
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 5: I thought it was going to be checked down city

631
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 5: without when I saw his completion percentage in the yards

632
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 5: Chrysal Lovey was averaging like seven yards of catch.

633
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: He was in this game. He averaged sixteen in this game,

634
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: and he dropped three passes. He might have averaged way

635
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: more than that. For next Gen, he held the ball.

636
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 5: What constitutes the pressure, So next Gen and Pro Football

637
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 5: Focus do it differently. So next Gen is the tracking data.

638
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 5: They use the chips and the pads for proximity to

639
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 5: the quarterback. Which is why I don't really love it,

640
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 5: because because like you have if you're on the other

641
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 5: side of the offensive lineman but you're getting you know,

642
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 5: walked back.

643
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like exactly right. So it's not as good.

644
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 5: Pro Football Focus, uh watches the tape and grades the

645
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 5: tape and sees if guys are winning, you know, be

646
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 5: winning their blocks. I thought that the Patriots defensive line

647
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 5: was pretty good in this game, and I thought that

648
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 5: there was you know, this is where we get into

649
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 5: the conversation of like what is a impactful pressure and

650
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 5: what's just like a drive by. Yeah, And I think

651
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 5: that that's where the conversation is with the coverage, is

652
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 5: like it's hard to get legitimate pressure on a quarterback

653
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 5: when he's getting the ball out in two point six

654
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 5: seconds because there's open receivers for him to throw the

655
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 5: ball to down the field. So like if you have

656
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 5: you know, Christian Barmer is winning, you know inside, but

657
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 5: Chris a Lave is wide open in a slant window

658
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 5: right behind him, It's like, yeah, that's a hurry. But

659
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 5: like it did rather really feel that pressure or not?

660
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 5: And I thought that was the case in a lot

661
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 5: of these games. Is I think like the defensive line

662
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 5: looks like it's primed to like kind of take over

663
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 5: some of these games, and they just week and they

664
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 5: just can't cover for long enough in the back end.

665
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: So in order to play that complimentary type of defense,

666
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: does the you know, does the coverage need to press

667
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: down a little bit more and not give so much

668
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: of a cushion.

669
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 5: I was so they did against Buffalo that the plan

670
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 5: against Buffalo is to play man to man, impress the

671
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 5: receivers and challenge the receivers to beat them, and and

672
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 5: the Patriots defense won more rounds than they lost against

673
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 5: the Bills. In this game, they played like seventy percent

674
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 5: zone coverage. Everything was in front of them. My guess

675
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 5: is that first play to a Lave kind of spooked

676
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 5: them a little bit and said, you know, maybe there's

677
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 5: more speed on the field. And you know, she heeds

678
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 5: extremely fast. A Lave is a good downfield route runner,

679
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 5: so that I think they backed off a little bit

680
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 5: this game. And I know I was getting it during

681
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 5: the game, like, is it are they really giving him

682
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 5: that much cushion because it looks like on TV that

683
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 5: they are, and the numbers in the film bared that out.

684
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 5: You know, they were giving them quite a bit of

685
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: off coverage and cushion on the outside, And just like

686
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 5: Deuce was saying, they kind of were just making Ratler

687
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 5: dice him up.

688
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I, like I said, I don't want to

689
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: take that away from Rattler. I thought he threw the

690
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: ball pretty well. I think he actually threw the ball

691
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: better than his numbers would indicate. I thought he was

692
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 3: let down a couple of times by a Lave. I mean,

693
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: one of the biggest plays of the game was was

694
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: Chucky Trees, you know, forcing that fumble that they didn't

695
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: call a fumble because for some reason, the officials just

696
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: decided not to watch the game this week. And this

697
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: is not a Patriots or Saints thing. There were a

698
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: number of questionable calls in the game period, all over the.

699
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: Place, mostly on the Patriots.

700
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: See the ball that Charles Woods knocks out of a

701
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: lobby that was a third and seventeen and that's going

702
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: to be twenty yards and he had I mean, it

703
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: was a great, great catch by a lave, but it

704
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: was a catch in a bumble. It should have been

705
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: but that that's one of those underrated plays that that

706
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: forces a punt because he knocks the ball out and

707
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: they call it incomplete.

708
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: There was a play on the on this. I think

709
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: there was a little.

710
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: Double move that he had on Carlton Davis where Davis

711
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: had a tug them. Like, I was impressed with the Saints'

712
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: ability to get the ball downfield in this game, which

713
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: I didn't really anticipate was going to be a problem

714
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: at all. And I think Evan's right the first play

715
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: may have kind of spooked them from that point on.

716
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 3: And you know, I give the Patriots defense a lot

717
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: of credit for two things one. The red zone defense

718
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: has been an issue for most of the season. It

719
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: was excellent in this game. They came up with a

720
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: number of stops and forced field goals and I'm not

721
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: you know, maybe some of them weren't technically in the

722
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: red zone, but they were red zone adjacent. Now I

723
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: think they had at least I think they had at

724
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: least three that were in the red zone that they

725
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: came they forced field goals on. And the other thing

726
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: is this is now becoming a pattern. They did it

727
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: against Miami, they did it to a lesser extent against Buffalo,

728
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: forcing the field goal to tie rather than the touchdown

729
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: to go ahead. And then in this game when they

730
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: had to come up with plays defensively, they were able

731
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: to do it. Now they got a little fortunate in

732
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: this one that Lobby drops a second down pass that

733
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: somehow Adam AlCH Archoletta said he was not quite able

734
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: to get his hands on, even though it hit him.

735
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: In both hands.

736
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: But they got that stop. The previous play a good

737
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: punch out by Christian Ellis on a play in Patriots territory.

738
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: The Saints are moving on that Juwan Johnson pass. Nice

739
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: punch out there, so situational. I think the Patriots defense

740
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: has been pretty good. And we might look at the

741
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: numbers and say, well, you know, it seems like the

742
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: other teams moving they are, but when it counts, the

743
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: Patriots are making the plays.

744
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: And you mentioned situationally, isn't it nice to have a

745
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: coach who you know, knows the situation and you know

746
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: can throw a red flag in this type of situation?

747
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: That is key.

748
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: I mean that late challenge was that ended the game?

749
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: That ended the game?

750
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: The game anyway, argument with Joe Murray and the postgame

751
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: show about that, all right, what was the what was

752
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: the argument?

753
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: Well, Joe said, you know, what do you think of

754
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: that play? It effectively ended you know what, it basically

755
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: ended the game? Was how big was that play? And

756
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: he was the protector was like, well, I don't know, I.

757
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 4: Mean they you know it was then then he's laid

758
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: off like what it would have been when they would

759
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: have gotten the ball back with like forty seconds.

760
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: I mean, the game was over the way, but it

761
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: officially allowed them to just take mews in the clock

762
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: was going to run out.

763
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, last couple of years of games never any credit,

764
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 5: but a couple of couple I didn't take.

765
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: I talk about better, but I was going to say

766
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Mark thought Marcus Jones was excellent again in this game,

767
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: really two straight games. Excellent as a defensive running back

768
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: all over the proving, I mean, blitzing, covering guys, three

769
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: big third down plays I think he was involved in

770
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: for stops.

771
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: And Christianell has showing a little bit too. I mean

772
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 4: not not just the you know, the the force fumble,

773
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: but you know, getting hands on the ball like you know, around.

774
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: Several ties here. I actually thought he made two good plays.

775
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 5: I thought you were you were on a good track,

776
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: Marcus Jes right.

777
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: Stick with Marcus Jones. Yeah about the finger way, he

778
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: made a couple of plays.

779
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 5: He did get it and he did make a couple

780
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 5: of plays.

781
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: I'll give him. Marcus Jones, Oh is your guy? I

782
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: was pretty good?

783
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 9: He is.

784
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: I thought Farmer had a couple of reps. Yeah, Farmer.

785
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 5: They've been grading. I mean the run defense has been great.

786
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 5: This is it's a weird defense because the numbers, uh

787
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 5: you know, yards, efficiency metrics, you know, passer rating allowed,

788
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 5: like they're not good. And then they're only giving up

789
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 5: twenty points a game, which is seventh in the league.

790
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 5: So they're the seventh ranked scoring defense in the NFL,

791
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 5: but they're twenty fifth and passer rating allowed, Like those

792
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 5: things don't normally go what it is.

793
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 4: It's like Pauls thing like Paul said about like the

794
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: Patriots could situationally just run the ball when they needed to.

795
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: It's almost like the defense is kind of like that.

796
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: I feel like too, where when they need to get

797
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: the stop or they need to get you know.

798
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 5: They make it second halves too, like they've they've done

799
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 5: a nice job of adjusting three points in the second half. Yeah,

800
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 5: and they really got rather back down to earth in

801
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 5: the second half of this game statistically too. But they

802
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 5: came out in the first quarter and they have the

803
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 5: Saints were averaging like nine yards of play. You know,

804
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 5: they were just going right down the field on them.

805
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 5: And then they tightened up in the red zone. They

806
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 5: forced field goals and they keep the scoring down. But yeah,

807
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 5: you know, they're they're not good in terms of their

808
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 5: past defense, Like statistically it's not good, but then you

809
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 5: look up and they only have nineteen points. So it's

810
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 5: I don't know, I never know what to make of

811
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 5: defense is like that.

812
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: This one was the big football math game, like they

813
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 3: just kept forcing field goals and the Patriots got touchdowns

814
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: and that was the difference.

815
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: This was a sinky part of me. That's like, you know, wondering, pondering.

816
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 4: We've seen some Patriots defenses in the past that would

817
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 4: just absolutely dominate the crappy teams and the meaningless downs,

818
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 4: and then you know when they get into a tough

819
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 4: game I'm talking about twenty nineteen where they really need

820
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 4: to have it, like they can't do it. You know,

821
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 4: is this defense maybe not the opposite, but a weird,

822
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: demented version of that where it's.

823
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: Like they know when they played a tough teams, right,

824
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: I mean, they passed the first.

825
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 4: And that's why I don't really want to like, you know,

826
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 4: stake my flag and it's just yet. But it's almost

827
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: like I feel great, like third and seven end of

828
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 4: the game, like they need to have it.

829
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: I feel great about the Patriots defense.

830
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 4: Whereas you know, third and five middle of the game,

831
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: like I don't they're probably gonna get that.

832
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: I'd be happy if it was third and five at

833
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: the beginning of the game. They don't get it down.

834
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: That's these games, you know, what you want to know

835
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: one of Mike's big thumbs down was after this game

836
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: second down defense, but that was.

837
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 4: Kind of like it was a weird and then looking

838
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: back on it, it was also connected to the first

839
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 4: down defense.

840
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: The first and second down. Like their run defense is good,

841
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: they're getting to the field on third down.

842
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 5: But you know, they don't start well on defense. And

843
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 5: if you want to point, you can point to any

844
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 5: one thing you know, is a game plan?

845
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 7: Is it?

846
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 5: You know, getting getting guys ready to play, which I

847
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 5: think is cliche and corny, but like whatever it is

848
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 5: that is making struggled, They've basically struggled in the first

849
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 5: quarter defensively of every single game.

850
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: I agree.

851
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 3: I think the other team has had a better plan

852
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 3: to start the game. And now give the Patriots staff

853
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: a lot of credit. I think, like Evan said, they've

854
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: adjusted and they've it's definitely been better as the game

855
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 3: has gone on.

856
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 5: These defenses remind me a little bit of the Patricia defenses.

857
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 5: And I know I'm going to say that and people

858
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 5: are going to freak out, but like the ben.

859
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: Don't break and like the you know defenses like that, yeah,

860
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: se And that's what it reminds me of them. Not

861
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: a little Russian three.

862
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: If you can tell me that they'll continue to be

863
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: good situationally like they have been, then I think this

864
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 3: is really good defense in the modern.

865
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: And right, that's right, That's kind of what I was

866
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: getting at.

867
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: That's that's why, to Devin's point, they're sitting at twenty

868
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: points allowed in top what the seventh seventh time, because

869
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: they're able to make the plays and the key downs.

870
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: I think the days of a defense just going out

871
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: there and two thousand Baltimore Ravens and you know, throwing their.

872
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis on the field dominating.

873
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: I don't think you see a lot of teams do

874
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: that stuff anymore, not against good offense in anyway.

875
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 4: Seattle, I watched a little that Seattle game against Jacksonville

876
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 4: and they have a very good defense.

877
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: So that's one defense that I jumps off the field consistently,

878
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: just all over the place.

879
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 5: It would just be nice to see it better some

880
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 5: one start, like start hot one one week.

881
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: But I think we want to get a lot were

882
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: trying to do. We're going to get a lot of

883
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: things that were looking I mean it's not Wednesday yet.

884
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to move ahead, but I think you

885
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: can get waiting for it tomorrow.

886
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: But I think against the Saints they wanted to start

887
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: fast on defense and then they got.

888
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: Burned butts getting into this game offensive twenty third down there.

889
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's just the defense thing is kind of breaking

890
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 5: my brain a little bit because, like all the metrics

891
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 5: suggests they should be a bad defense, but they're not

892
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 5: giving up a ton of points. And like I said,

893
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 5: it reminds me a lot of those Patricia Belichick defenses

894
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 5: that just were good situationally and good when it counted

895
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 5: and you know, made plays, but like they have some

896
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 5: issues and.

897
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: It's not like forcing a ton of turnovers and that's

898
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: keeping points off the board. You know, I mean turn

899
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: over here or there. You know the Buffalo game, that

900
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: was a big part of the game, but it wasn't

901
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: a big part of this game.

902
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: You know, who else I like to have in this

903
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 4: one was Woodson, Like I just you know, I just

904
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 4: seeing the contrast of him and Kyle Dugger and Craig.

905
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: Woodson seems like a natural free safety who sees the

906
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: game from that position. He knows how to come down

907
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 4: and navigate traffic and get to guys, and you know,

908
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 4: nothing against Kyle Dugger. I think he's a little bit

909
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 4: more suited to play in the old style and play

910
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: in the box. But you know, just you could see

911
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 4: some of the recognition stuff with Craig Woodson where it

912
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: clicks and he's got a path to the ball and

913
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 4: he goes and he's a sound tackler, and you know,

914
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 4: Dougger sometimes still seems like he's kind of lost in

915
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: space a little bit, you know, get running into guys

916
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 4: that kind of thing. But I think it's hard to

917
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: tell for me, like watching the game on TV, to

918
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: really evaluate a free safety, especially because most of the

919
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 4: time Woodson's out of the frame when we're watching him.

920
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 4: But there's one guy when I go back and watch,

921
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: it's just he's he's smooth, you know, the kind of

922
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 4: like Darron Harmon a little bit, you know, just looks

923
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: comfortable on the back end, reads the play well, comes down,

924
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 4: makes happen.

925
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

926
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 5: I thought last week he was sort of flashing a

927
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 5: little bit more in the game against Buffalo. I really

928
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 5: like his play speed. I think he plays fast and

929
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 5: I think he plays hard. Now sometimes they got to

930
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 5: get him pointed in the right direction, and like any rookie,

931
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 5: you know that that's really the main thing. But in

932
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 5: this game, I think he had three or four run stuffs,

933
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 5: He had a pressure on a blitz, stayed over the

934
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 5: top of a couple vertical routes as deep help. But

935
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 5: I thought this was his best game, and he looks

936
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 5: like he's starting to understand his role in the big

937
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 5: picture and now all that kind of stuff a lot more.

938
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 5: So I'm encouraged by him. But they're still getting you know,

939
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 5: they still have issues in between the numbers in the

940
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 5: middle of the field. Like you know, defending passes through

941
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 5: the middle of the field is still the weakest part

942
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 5: of the defense. Like I know that Davis Gonzo gave

943
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 5: up a few in this game, but they're really not

944
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 5: getting torch too bad most weeks, you know, like they're

945
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 5: one catch or two catches a game for both those guys.

946
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 5: It's those inbreaking routes through the middle of the field

947
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 5: that I are killing them.

948
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: I just you know, one more point I want to

949
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: make about it.

950
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 4: Watching this defense now, so much talk about the safeties

951
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: and how they're going to use them, and you know,

952
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: it is definitely way different, but they still use these

953
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 4: guys blitzing, dropping coming up on the line covering.

954
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they do everything.

955
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 4: It's it just seems like it's going to be a

956
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 4: really key position for them to figure out going forward,

957
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 4: but also just such a critical one that these guys

958
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 4: could really make a difference in this team, especially if

959
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: you know Woodson elevates it to another level here, you know,

960
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 4: as he continues to progress.

961
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: All right.

962
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: Eight five to five Pats five hundred is the hotline

963
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: podcasts at Patriots dot com. It's the way to email us.

964
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: I see a lot of emails coming in. The phones

965
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: are are jacked up, So let's let's get to see

966
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: what you have to say about this edition of the Patriots.

967
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: Todd's in North Carolina. What's up Todd?

968
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 10: Hey guys, what in a wonderful time to have a show.

969
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 10: So that's going to lead into my three points, and

970
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 10: I will take your answers off the air. Number One,

971
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 10: I think everyone's going to be giving us their best shot.

972
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 10: They do not want to see the Patriots back being relevant.

973
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 10: Number I think the sneaky need is not running back.

974
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 10: But I think we need to figure out our linebackers.

975
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 10: I don't know if we have to get somebody in

976
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 10: or change what we were doing, but that feels like

977
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 10: the big And finally, what did the Pats have to

978
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 10: do till we till we get back to twelve hours

979
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 10: of programming each week instead of the eightish we got

980
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 10: right now? And that's guys, what does.

981
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: He mean by that twelve hours of program instead of eight?

982
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway.

983
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 5: Linebackers, Yeah, I think Chrispolane has sort of settled down

984
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 5: and his run his run defense is really really good

985
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 5: and he's doing what he's supposed to do. There they

986
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 5: don't cover particularly well, and that's still a problem for

987
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 5: the group as a whole. So yeah, I mean next year,

988
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 5: a guy next to Splaine who can really cover and

989
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 5: and you know play in the past game and that

990
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 5: sort of thing I think is at the top of

991
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 5: the list to maybe upgrade that Ellis Jack Gibbons spot.

992
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 5: They played a lot more bass the last couple of

993
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 5: weeks too, so they've had, you know, three true linebackers.

994
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 5: With Tavai coming back, they've done a little bit more

995
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 5: of that. Uh So I could see them wanting to

996
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 5: We've been talking about it for what five years that

997
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 5: they need a linebacker that can cover.

998
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: So they still need that.

999
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 5: That's still need.

1000
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: Christians in LA. What's up, Christian?

1001
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 11: You know what souff we are in? Can you guys

1002
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 11: stay with me? First place in the division?

1003
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's week six, but just to.

1004
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 11: See the Patriots first place of division means something to

1005
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 11: us fans that have been flogging around for the last

1006
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 11: five years waiting for something good to happen. I'm gonna

1007
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 11: take it.

1008
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: I agree, this is the best.

1009
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 11: This is the best that we've been in five years.

1010
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 11: I love that we're play quick point on on the

1011
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 11: guys and how they're how they're playing. I think they've

1012
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 11: bought in the Vaible system, and I absolutely think that

1013
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 11: we can come out of this October seven and two.

1014
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 11: I'll take it off the air. Good to be a

1015
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 11: pass fan.

1016
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: Guys, huh okay. I do this little trick.

1017
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: I always look at how many they have left into

1018
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: They have eleven games left. They're four and two, So

1019
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: if they go like five hundred with the eleven, let's

1020
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 2: say six and five, that's ten wins.

1021
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, that's so like. But how many

1022
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: games in October do they have left?

1023
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 5: I think three? Right is the Atlanta game technically in October.

1024
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: So they could come out with Tennessee seven and two,

1025
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: Cleveland five, or anything in between. Yeah.

1026
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at the schedule, a lot

1027
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: of these games that early on we owe Giants.

1028
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: That's a win.

1029
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: Giants are playing better, Cleveland could be a tough out,

1030
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: Atlanta's playing better.

1031
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: The schedule is good.

1032
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like their quarterback is just developing. So I think

1033
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 3: people think the Patriots.

1034
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Will win that game.

1035
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 5: But they have a lot of talent, but they have

1036
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 5: absolutely you know lasts, So a.

1037
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: Lot of these games that you thought were pushover as folks,

1038
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: they're not. They're not. So let's not get ahead of ourselves.

1039
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: I do think this one is.

1040
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be cland I do not

1041
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: think is going to be a push I disagree.

1042
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't see how Cleveland's offense is going

1043
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 5: to score.

1044
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: That's probably why the Pictures win. They go, but they

1045
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: get into rock fights with teams.

1046
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 3: I think, like you look at the games they just

1047
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: they just played at Pittsburgh and it was kind of

1048
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: one of those kinds of games and I think Rogers

1049
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: had his best game of the year, and and you

1050
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 3: know they kind of put it away late.

1051
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: With a touchdown against the Jets.

1052
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: Well, I just let's not get ahead over our skis

1053
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: here what I mean, now, these these teams can be

1054
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: tougher than you think of. The Jets look pretty bad though,

1055
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: but okay, so no, that's a good point. Jets in

1056
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: Miami look really bad right now. But in any season

1057
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: it was tough to run the table in your own division.

1058
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 3: I would rarely even that. Like, Miami looks really bad.

1059
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 3: Miami had to leave with thirty seconds left in the

1060
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: last two games. That's right, right, So yeah, you might

1061
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: win the.

1062
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 5: Game, but I don't think you're gonna win it forty

1063
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 5: eight to nothing the way you think they're gonna win it.

1064
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 7: Right.

1065
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: You know when I say you, I mean the Royal.

1066
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 12: I know what you you?

1067
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you people.

1068
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think anybody's picking them to win thirty

1069
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 5: eight to nothing.

1070
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: But like.

1071
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 5: The Titans and the Browns are two games that are

1072
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 5: easily should be winning.

1073
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: The Titans, I don't see any possible way they lose.

1074
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that.

1075
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: The Browns, I would give them like a ninety plus

1076
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: percent chance to win. I do respect the Browns defense

1077
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: and the ability of a guy like Miles Garrett to

1078
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: cause problems in a game and keep it close, and

1079
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: if it's close, you never know. But I would think

1080
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: the Patriot should win those two games. They'll be favored,

1081
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: no doubt they're going to be favored.

1082
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, thous about. I mean, they're probably going to be

1083
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: favored against the.

1084
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 5: Feltons too, once they get through the Browns and the Titans.

1085
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 5: Like the schedule does have hard you know, like I

1086
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 5: could easily see them going two and two in the

1087
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 5: next four Yeah, easily.

1088
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1089
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 5: But if even if they are two and two, and

1090
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 5: then that's great.

1091
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: If you go six and five or five and six,

1092
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: that's nine or ten wins you finish the season, and.

1093
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: If you win ten, you're gonna be in the playoffs

1094
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: most likely. Yeah. Uh, let's go to Seattle. Will go

1095
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: to Anthony. What's up Anthony?

1096
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 6: Hey, it was up my people. Hey, Hey, how's my

1097
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 6: connection today?

1098
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: Sweet? Good?

1099
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 13: Okay, good good.

1100
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 6: I'm sorry I have my headphones on last time and

1101
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 6: I was in the gym and anyway, hey, uh, I

1102
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 6: love that Atlanta followed our blueprint by just giving the

1103
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 6: bill as a healthy dose of a guy.

1104
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: Named Drake, right, Drake London had a good game there.

1105
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, I'll be quick today. Man, it's dude, it's

1106
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 6: fun being a Patriots fan.

1107
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: Again, I'm sorry, was it fun? Finally a camera.

1108
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, everything changes, like with the quarterback

1109
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 6: and the quarterback play and the level.

1110
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 13: He's playing at.

1111
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 6: I'm trying to just kind of hold surf because we're

1112
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 6: only six games into this season. But man, it's like

1113
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 6: the feeling I have when watching that game, and then

1114
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 6: like I'm listening to the post game show and some

1115
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 6: of the things you guys brought up, like.

1116
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 13: You know, uh, the uh what is it?

1117
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 6: The back the passing he talked, he pitched back to uh,

1118
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 6: Treyvon Henderson, and you know, Paul's like, I mean, I'm

1119
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 6: a little worried about that, and I'm just thinking it's fine,

1120
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 6: you know. And then like and like the when we

1121
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 6: didn't score, when we got down to the one yard

1122
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 6: line and didn't score, Like in my like, as I

1123
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 6: was watching the game, my feeling was like, oh man,

1124
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 6: but then it was like, it's fine, we'll get Like

1125
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 6: I didn't think those are the last points of the game.

1126
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 6: It's just everything's like fine and good now. And it's

1127
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 6: but Paul, I do understand what you what you mean, Yeah,

1128
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 6: we don't want those turn into into like bad plays.

1129
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 6: But I do feel like our margin for error or

1130
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 6: our path is broken it down. It has increased substantially

1131
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 6: with the emergence of our quarterback and our ability to score.

1132
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 6: So I don't know, man' it's it's a good time

1133
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 6: right now, go.

1134
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 1: Ahead, thanks Anthony, it is it's good times right now. Yeah,

1135
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: good times.

1136
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 10: I know.

1137
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 5: I think what you already asked him, if that was

1138
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 5: a no, no, yes.

1139
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Bro Henderson.

1140
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 5: I don't know if he got lucky or if he

1141
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 5: saw it, but like there's no flat like they they

1142
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 5: bust the coverage and they don't have a flat defender

1143
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 5: on that side.

1144
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: I think he got lucky.

1145
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: I just don't think those are things that the coaches

1146
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 3: would want to see on a consistent basis. And that's

1147
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 3: three times they've seen him in the last four weeks.

1148
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 5: Sure, I just if he is already seeing the field

1149
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 5: so well that he's recognizing that there's nobody out there

1150
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 5: with Henderson like, then that's like next level.

1151
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 10: You know.

1152
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 5: If that was the case, then I would agree with

1153
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 5: you that he's standing there in the post skeptical, and

1154
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 5: you know, he's looking down the field and you can

1155
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 5: see the coverage is tilted a certain way, and like

1156
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 5: there's just nobody out there with Henderson, so like he

1157
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 5: even though he flips it, and I know when people

1158
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 5: see that, I get why you're like, what is he doing.

1159
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: Well to me? But there's no threat of it being

1160
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: flipped it to him?

1161
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: I would say, fine, he flipped it up in the

1162
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 3: air and it just kind of floated, like even if

1163
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: there's someone like I just don't know how you know

1164
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: that there's no one that Like like the one the

1165
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: previous week against two Diggs, there was a guy there.

1166
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: If he've thrown the the same way and it floated,

1167
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 3: that guy may have turned around and been able to

1168
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: make a play on it.

1169
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: Like that's what I would worry about.

1170
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: And again, very similar to what he did against Pittsburgh,

1171
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: gonna cost him the game, Like they're going in to

1172
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 3: win the game and he fumbles trying to do one.

1173
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: Of those plays.

1174
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: So that's that's all, Like, but this is the different

1175
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 3: The best part about this whole thing is you can

1176
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: treat this team like that again, like you're starting to

1177
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: talk about these little individual plays like you know, like

1178
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: that was really good. He ended up making a nine

1179
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 3: yard playout of nothing and you end up winning a game,

1180
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: that's great, but you know you might be careful with that.

1181
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: Whereas we used to be like, well, you know with

1182
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: four and thirteen. At least that was a fun play.

1183
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 3: You know, they made a play Like, no, you're starting

1184
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: to talk about playoffs and you know, matchups and different

1185
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 3: things down the road.

1186
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 5: You just wonder if he needs it right, Like, yeah,

1187
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 5: he's so good that like they'll just make it up

1188
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 5: on the next play that they didn't hit right to

1189
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 5: check that out.

1190
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: Right, you know, drives don't stall because of one false start,

1191
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: which was happening over the last two years consistently.

1192
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's fair.

1193
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 5: I think the play in Pittsburgh, to me, is a

1194
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 5: little bit different because he held the ball for so long.

1195
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 5: Like these two plays, they wasn't the ball was not

1196
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 5: you know that it was like one of those like

1197
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 5: extended like four and a half second dropbacks. These ones

1198
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 5: are happening faster. But I think that that's part of

1199
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 5: his game, is he's kind of this trick shot guy

1200
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 5: and like we're just gonna if it works.

1201
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 7: You know.

1202
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 5: I was watching the game, you know, the Bills game

1203
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 5: last night with with just and some of the things

1204
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 5: that Josh Allen does that usually works are just suddenly

1205
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 5: are just not working as much the last couple of weeks,

1206
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 5: like he had similar play where he rolled to his

1207
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 5: left and he tried to flip it out. I think

1208
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 5: it was to James Cook and it didn't get there.

1209
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 2: It's tough when the windows, you know, closing, it's tough

1210
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 2: to get those plays.

1211
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 5: I've seen him do stuff like that a thousand times,

1212
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 5: and now all of a sudden, like things aren't going

1213
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 5: their way, and he's like.

1214
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: That's what.

1215
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 3: But these are things that Mahomes and Allen were criticized

1216
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 3: for initially until they work more often than not. And

1217
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: when May establishes that they work more often than not,

1218
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: people won't talk about it as much. And when he

1219
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: makes a mistake in one of those spots, you'll say,

1220
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: you got to take that mistake because he just made

1221
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 3: a hundred great plays doing that, and that's the one

1222
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: that was a mistake. Do you know what I'm saying

1223
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: Right now, we're just sort of learning. It's not something

1224
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 3: I agree with everan one thousand percent. It's not something

1225
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: I would criticize.

1226
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: Now.

1227
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 3: These are just things that you file away, you know,

1228
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: against Washington in the preseason when everybody yelled at us

1229
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: from making such a big deal out of a preseason game.

1230
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 3: It was a fumble, holding the ball too long, trying

1231
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: to make a play when it wasn't there. Against Pittsburgh,

1232
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: same thing, holding the ball too long, trying to make

1233
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: a play. Now you're starting to see when he holds

1234
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 3: the ball or tries to improv and.

1235
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: He is making plays. So you see the positive side

1236
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: of it.

1237
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: As long as that ledger ends up being more positives,

1238
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 3: like a lot more positives. The way Mahomes and Allen

1239
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,479
Speaker 3: have done their whole career. Brett frev did that trap

1240
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: all the time.

1241
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 5: He's gotten so much better at the ball, security in

1242
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 5: the pocket. He's got two hands on the ball a

1243
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 5: lot now and he's keeping it tucked in so like

1244
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 5: before the ball he'd be holding it out and like

1245
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 5: the defensers, the defenders are just coming for the ball.

1246
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: His clock is better and we're.

1247
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 5: Keeping it tighter and he's not giving them those opportunities.

1248
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: Dylan's in Nashville.

1249
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: What's up, Dylan, Hey, how's it going good?

1250
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 14: So the first time, medium time, the thing I want

1251
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 14: to ask you is I love we're talking about small

1252
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 14: ball What are the little things that you guys think

1253
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 14: we could improve on, because you know, back when you're

1254
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 14: a super Bowl team, we focused on the little things.

1255
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 14: What are those, like top two or three things that

1256
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 14: you guys want to think about. Thank you very much

1257
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 14: for having me on.

1258
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, I still little thing.

1259
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: I think there's big things that they still have to

1260
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't know about little things.

1261
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 5: They need to run the ball better, yeah, they needs

1262
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 5: a big thing. You need to run the ball better, defense,

1263
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 5: defend the pass better. They're not really defending the past

1264
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 5: very well on defense, and I think that one of

1265
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 5: the things defensively that just sticks out to me in

1266
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 5: terms of that is like I kind of feel like

1267
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 5: they don't have an identity of how they want to

1268
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 5: cover teams right now, and they're not really like they're

1269
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 5: not having Gonzo travel and they're not like, really, they

1270
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 5: told us that they wanted to play cat coverage, right,

1271
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 5: they wanted Gonzo and they wanted Carlon Davis and they

1272
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 5: were gonna play man to man and like outside the

1273
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 5: Bills game, that really hasn't come to fruition now. Gonzo

1274
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 5: hasn't been one hundred percent healthy, right, And maybe that's

1275
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 5: why but like in order, that's the only way I

1276
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 5: can really see the past defense improving substantially is if

1277
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know if he's going to play

1278
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 5: on Sunday, But they say to Gonzo like you got Ridley,

1279
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 5: you know, like you got Drake London, you have and

1280
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 5: he's everywhere traveling with those receivers at one hundred percent

1281
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 5: because right now they're kind of just playing sides and

1282
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 5: just taking whoever.

1283
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: Knows his team yet or is he still learning you

1284
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: know who's and I'm talking the defense, like who are

1285
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: my guys in certain situations?

1286
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I would put him slightly behind

1287
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 4: what a normal coach who's been around for a couple

1288
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 4: of years might know of his team. I think there's

1289
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 4: still a little bit of a learning curve with some

1290
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: of the new faces and maybe some of the guys

1291
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 4: that he inherited.

1292
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: But for the most part, I mean, I think you

1293
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: should have a pretty good idea.

1294
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I think this identity is starting starting to

1295
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 4: come out to us at least, so I would imagine

1296
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 4: it has for him too.

1297
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 5: I just look at, you know, week to week, Like

1298
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 5: last week they played a lot of man in Buffalo,

1299
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 5: and it mostly worked and it was, you know, a

1300
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 5: good defensive game this week. They then all of a sudden,

1301
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 5: they're playing a ton of zone and it's like, I

1302
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 5: get wanting to be game plan and I get that

1303
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 5: you want to change it up. I just I wonder

1304
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 5: if they're not personnel wise, they might not be fully

1305
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 5: there yet. They just like week to week, you know

1306
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 5: Belichick's style, we're going to be We're going to be different.

1307
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 5: So in this game, they came out with a lot

1308
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 5: of zone blitzing, and to Rattler's credit, he beat them.

1309
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 5: He beat him with it, and so I just wonder

1310
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 5: if they maybe could kind of simplify on defense where

1311
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 5: they just say this is what we do.

1312
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, Eldrid's in North Carolina.

1313
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Speaker 1: Hey Aldred, Hey fellas.

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Speaker 13: How y'all doing? Who hey? Questions? I know, we keep

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00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 13: talking about the running game, and I keep standing the

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00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 13: coverage with the linebackers and the safeties. But I looked

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00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 13: at the game again yesterday. I still say eighty percent

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00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 13: of that is the line because I still see a

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00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 13: lot of black Jerry's coming through and they run into

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Speaker 13: the wall. But then again New Orleans kept doing that

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00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 13: damn excuse me, run blitz and they're telling you to

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Speaker 13: get their linebacker or corner shooting the gap. So I

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00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 13: don't know maybe that's the issue or not, and I

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Speaker 13: take it off the air. Thank you, you have a

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Speaker 13: good one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Eldrid.

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Speaker 5: They've seen a lot of like post snap movement from

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00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 5: defenses in the run game, like they're gap penetrating, their stunting,

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00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 5: they're run blitzing like things like that really early on

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00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 5: the season, like Vegas kind of brought it out week

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Speaker 5: one and it's sort of been the book on what

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00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 5: they do and it has worked. But you know, the

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Speaker 5: downside of that for the defense is that may Is

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00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 5: is killing them through the air. So it's like if

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Speaker 5: they're going to keep doing this and they're going to

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Speaker 5: keep being aggressive upfront against the run, and then they're

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00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 5: just gonna throw it over the top.

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Speaker 4: So it's now much you do if you're Tennessee, like

1339
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: this week, you don't really have much to work with.

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Speaker 4: You know, you got Jeffrey Simmons. Do you just say

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00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 4: we're not gonna let Drake maybe this this week? This

1342
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 4: is the week that reminder Stevenson a Travian Henderson suddenly

1343
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 4: find their stride and get good, then we'll lose that way.

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Speaker 1: But let's play deep.

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00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 4: Let's not let you know, and also force may to

1346
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: read through the coverage, take the undernout underneath stuff, and

1347
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 4: that that might be their best option to try to

1348
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Speaker 4: figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Thanks James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan of the world.

1350
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: Rights and when Fred is wearing a cricket sweater, I

1351
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: know we're fully back.

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Speaker 1: It's FG. It's tennis. He's got two sets with boardguard later.

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Speaker 1: This in it right now? I like it.

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Speaker 4: I like it right closed the stir on one of

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Speaker 4: our closes. Staying overalls, you look like you had been

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Speaker 4: clamming or oystering or sorry.

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Speaker 1: I missed it. I was still in my car. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like overalls.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to wear a belt, I just don't.

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Speaker 5: You don't strike me as an overalls guy said like

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Speaker 5: you wear him.

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Speaker 1: At home A lot I do. I got a piece

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Speaker 1: of straw in his mouth. The talk of the was

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Speaker 1: the talk of the office. Was it the top of

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Speaker 1: the Absolutely it's not. It's not the first suns like

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Speaker 1: whatever I wear like people talk about, Well, you have

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Speaker 1: made a bit of a transformation. Have I a fashion train?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 1: The cardigans you brought, you brought. The cardigans are very versatile.

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Speaker 1: It's a new thing for you.

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Speaker 5: could get a little heat in this building?

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Speaker 1: But it is cold. I agree with you, No I do.

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Speaker 2: I used to wear cardigans in college and I got

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Speaker 2: made fun of.

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Speaker 1: Really Oh yeah yeah, yep, not anymore tho.

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Speaker 7: How are you good? Good? Mike Good?

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Speaker 15: Still having trouble running the football?

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Speaker 5: I was wondering if, in terms of Remandre, maybe he's

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01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 5: focusing a little too much on protecting the football.

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Speaker 7: Probably everybody is. I wouldn't say that it's just Remandre.

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Speaker 17: I think that that's something that probably both backs that

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Speaker 17: that played yesterday and they carried the ball yesterday probably

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Speaker 17: are focused on.

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Speaker 7: And you know, I think there's a balance there. We've

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Speaker 7: talked about that.

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Speaker 17: I know, when we don't turn it over, we've won

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Speaker 17: those three games, So there's there's certainly a balance there.

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Speaker 7: And we have to.

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Speaker 17: To give him a good play and we have to

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01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 17: block and execute that to block support, and then we

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01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 17: we have to we have to run and make people

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Speaker 17: miss and break tackles. So well, we'll work hard at that,

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01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 17: but in the same sense, I'm proud of the improvements

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01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 17: that we've made protecting our our quarterback and protecting Drake,

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Speaker 17: and we'll just have to continue to strike a good

1443
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Speaker 17: balance there with running the football.

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Speaker 18: Mike says a video view in the locker room after

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Speaker 18: the game. Why is it so important for you to

1446
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 18: harp one too?

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Speaker 7: Your players to join? They put a lot into it.

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01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 7: You know, we try to coach them throughout the week.

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01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 7: We we coach them. You know, we believe in some things,

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Speaker 7: and we want to coach.

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Speaker 17: And practice our identity through the week and in meetings

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01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 17: and lock in and get the details and things that

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Speaker 17: we feel like are going to help us win a

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Speaker 17: football game. And then you know, they're the ones that

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Speaker 17: go out and perform and execute, and I'm them to

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Speaker 17: embrace that.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 17: We just it's a tough league to win in, and

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01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 17: tough league too to win consistently and on the road,

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Speaker 17: and the numbers and for the history will tell you that.

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Speaker 7: You know, this league is designed to to be.

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Speaker 17: It used to be an eight and eight league and

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01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 17: now it's a nine or eight or eight nine league,

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Speaker 17: and that's that's how the systems set up, and so

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01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 17: we have to do things through the course of the

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01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 17: game and the season that that that skewed that and

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Speaker 17: to move those numbers in our favor. And I think

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Speaker 17: that there's a good balance that can be had from

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Speaker 17: these guys still knowing that they can they can play

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Speaker 17: better and they can do some things. But you know,

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Speaker 17: we hammered two footballs out yesterday defensively, and not that

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Speaker 17: we weren't hammering before, but a couple of them rolled

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Speaker 17: out of bounds. A couple of them didn't come out yesterday.

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Speaker 17: They came out. You know, we were able to recover

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Speaker 17: the one, actually both of them. But you know, feel

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Speaker 17: bad for Charles. I know he wanted to fumble cause

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Speaker 17: fumble there and didn't end up challenging it just because

1478
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Speaker 17: of the the risk reward I felt that was involved.

1479
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Speaker 17: So you know, there's good stuff and then you know,

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Speaker 17: just want them to be able to embrace that and

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Speaker 17: then enjoy that and then understand that there's another challenge

1482
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Speaker 17: on the road here this week.

1483
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Speaker 7: Again.

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Speaker 17: Leave you up and scored its first touchdown during a

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Speaker 17: two minute situation last last night.

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Speaker 7: I'm wondering, how have.

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Speaker 1: You seen the group grow in those situations and would

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Speaker 1: allowed them to.

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Speaker 7: Finally reached out of mind.

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Speaker 17: Uh you know, I mean we've had you know, we

1491
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Speaker 17: had the one at the end of the Pittsburgh game.

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Speaker 17: They might have gone on to score against Vegas, but

1493
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Speaker 17: you know, opted for the field goal, you know, to

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Speaker 17: try to flip it. So situationally, maybe that cause for

1495
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,959
Speaker 17: you know, us not scoring touchdowns. You know, we didn't

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Speaker 17: convert the end of the game against but to be

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Speaker 17: able to possess it there all the way through and

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Speaker 17: really give our guys the last touch, you know, that's

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Speaker 17: that's been something that's important, you know, when you got

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Speaker 17: a good offense on the other side, which there is

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Speaker 17: every week, you know, making sure that they don't get

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Speaker 17: the ball back, and you know, just being able to

1503
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 17: understand when they may pressure, you know, when when we

1504
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 17: need to get out of bounds, controlling the clock, really

1505
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 17: getting into that drive, that two minute drive and you

1506
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 17: sacks kill.

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Speaker 7: Two minutes and uh you know, so we were able

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Speaker 7: to get the first first.

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Speaker 17: Down and I felt like that gave us a flow

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Speaker 17: and a rhythm to to that you know, particular drive

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01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 17: there at the end of the half, Like what what.

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Speaker 19: Advantages are you getting when you have this plane to

1513
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 19: buy giving this tree what we feel, you know, I

1514
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 19: think it just gives us a little bit more flexibility

1515
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 19: to to be in different fronts and to do, uh,

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Speaker 19: you know, some different things and be able to use

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Speaker 19: everybody and take some snaps off of some other guys.

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Speaker 1: Coach, which one of the passing appearance calls on Diggs.

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Speaker 7: Drove me more crazy. Oh no, those don't. I don't

1520
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 7: don't drive me crazy.

1521
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Speaker 17: You know, we just have to be able to deal

1522
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 17: with whatever situation is presented to us, whether we agree

1523
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 17: with it or disagree with it.

1524
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 7: I've learned that it's not going to change.

1525
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 17: So frustrated and disappointed for the players there that had

1526
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 17: some really explosive gains taken away by by judgment, you know,

1527
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 17: probably poor judgment, but that's it's all part of it.

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01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 17: And so I like the resolve for us to know

1529
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 17: ability for us to play through some of those, however

1530
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 17: difficult that it may be.

1531
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: My I guess they took a long time before you

1532
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:56,479
Speaker 1: had to punt.

1533
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 4: When you did, Rice, you know, your own head and

1534
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 4: shooting back there kicks off a good Funds kind of

1535
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:04,439
Speaker 4: flips the field.

1536
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 7: They have flipped the field there.

1537
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 4: His performance and his leadership in that way too Muchie specially, Yeah.

1538
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 17: I think you know, just you look at the operation

1539
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 17: on the field goal and being able to calm everything

1540
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 17: down and be able to handle the the snap and

1541
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 17: just the you know, good placement ball placement for Andy,

1542
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 17: you know, I do.

1543
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 7: You know, Bryce's really kind.

1544
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 17: Of helps out in all regards and special teams and

1545
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 17: he's done a nice job just you know, whether that's

1546
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 17: helping on kickoff or turn or kickoff or you know,

1547
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 17: just helping it practice right, some of the things that

1548
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 17: you guys may or may not see, but it was

1549
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 17: good for him. He's you know, done a nice job

1550
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 17: for us and hopefully we don't have to use him

1551
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 17: as much. But you know, certainly came off with a

1552
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 17: big kick there to be able to flip the field

1553
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 17: and you know the one we probably don't want down

1554
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 17: the middle of the field and he knows that so

1555
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 17: but to be able to flip the field and those

1556
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 17: situations are huge and Bryce has done a nice job

1557
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 17: on a nine yards.

1558
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: Flipping from Brake to Trevion?

1559
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 10: Is that a no, no?

1560
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 7: Yes?

1561
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 8: Play?

1562
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 19: Is that a balance being a playmaker and being safe?

1563
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: Like, how do you how is a coach?

1564
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 7: To your view, the decision there and pitch the ball.

1565
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: Obviously a successful that.

1566
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 17: We get, you know, we put you know, we have

1567
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 17: a lot of trust and faith and certainly Drake and

1568
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 17: and anybody else that would have the football, we have

1569
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 17: to be able to give them the liberty to go

1570
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 17: play the game and understand and not put it in

1571
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 17: in danger, but also try to try to make some

1572
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 17: positive plays and some of those things that go off script.

1573
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 17: You see, you know, Drake able to run down to

1574
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 17: the one yard line or scrambling out there to the

1575
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 17: left and and throwing the ball and using the rules

1576
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 17: to to our advantage and you know, taking it in

1577
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 17: completion as opposed to uh, you know, a hit or

1578
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 17: a sack.

1579
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 18: With the running game kind of get back to Karen's question,

1580
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 18: do you think you guys could benefit from from more

1581
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 18: variety in the right I'm just thinking of those last

1582
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,560
Speaker 18: few handoffs towards the end of the game. You just

1583
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 18: seem sort of direct runs straight downhill.

1584
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 17: Yeah, man, I think that when you talk about five minutes,

1585
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 17: I mean you want to be protective of pressures and

1586
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 17: things like that.

1587
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of variety in our run game.

1588
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 17: Throughout the season, and to look at one specific play

1589
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 17: and one you know, specific situation probably isn't isn't fair,

1590
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 17: but you know, you're free to do whatever you want.

1591
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 17: I just you know, you want to make sure that

1592
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 17: in those situations that you're trying to get the ball downhill,

1593
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 17: you're not trying to run sideways and create a holding

1594
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 17: penalty you know that would stop the clock, lose yardage,

1595
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 17: all those things in five minute now we're trying to

1596
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 17: be good with but also gain a first down to

1597
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 17: to win the game.

1598
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 7: So we'll keep working.

1599
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 17: We've had some some you know, good runs and we've

1600
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 17: had some had some some pitiful ones too, and so

1601
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,440
Speaker 17: we just have to make sure that there is a consistency,

1602
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 17: you know that we're coaching the details, that we're coaching

1603
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 17: the demeanor and understand that it's gonna going to be

1604
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 17: some some dirty runs in there and that we're going

1605
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 17: to have to make a guy miss or break a tackle,

1606
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 17: things that we've done throughout the season and be able

1607
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,799
Speaker 17: to do all those while taking care of the football

1608
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 17: and trying to move the line of scrimmage. So you know,

1609
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 17: probably wished we probably had some more production in a

1610
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 17: run game there at the end, we got the one

1611
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 17: first down and then we're able to throw for the

1612
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 17: second one.

1613
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: Coach, it's tight this week.

1614
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 7: What are your thoughts on going back there?

1615
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 17: And I mean just this is going to be probably

1616
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 17: a lot to be said about this, and I think

1617
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 17: would file under the category of, you know, is it

1618
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 17: interesting or important? And I would probably say this would

1619
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 17: be very interesting, but in the end not very important

1620
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 17: to our preparation or what we.

1621
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 7: Need to continue to try to do to them prove

1622
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 7: as a team.

1623
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 17: But having spent you know, six years there or seven

1624
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 17: years there, I mean, it's uh, you know, I think

1625
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 17: it'll be It'll be nice to see some some people

1626
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 17: that I haven't seen it in a few years that

1627
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 17: helped us win, players and staff. But uh, you know,

1628
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 17: we've got a huge job here to do, uh as

1629
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 17: we prepare for him.

1630
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:32,839
Speaker 1: And now great moments in history.

1631
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 2: I know he's a friend of the show, but the

1632
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 2: pre and post game shows have become largely about soothing

1633
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 2: or feeding Hardy's ego, and he offers little actual information

1634
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 2: about the team or the game.

1635
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,480
Speaker 1: It's so frustrated, Wow.

1636
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 9: We should bring this that's entirely inaccurate Hardy to I

1637
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 9: don't know if I think if anything in this room,

1638
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 9: I think if anything, he's got inferior complex.

1639
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I would agree.

1640
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, you know he he's a very busy guy.

1641
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 2: He's got ninety eight point five. Then he does serious

1642
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 2: he's got the music show, you know.

1643
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: So he's got golf. Yeah, the golf show that he

1644
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: does show.

1645
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 2: But he gets free stuff for that, So I'm a

1646
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 2: little jealous he.

1647
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: Gets those clubs he took care of. Yes, I did

1648
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: custom P HG clubs. He gave you clubs. No, he

1649
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 1: got those he got free and I got his leftover.

1650
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: Oh did you? He said he gave me a set

1651
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: of irons?

1652
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 2: Nice?

1653
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: What kind?

1654
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1655
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: I didn't look at him yet.

1656
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 2: You don't even look at him.

1657
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 5: No, we just the other night when we were leave,

1658
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 5: when he put him in my trunk, So you're not

1659
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 5: even curious to what they are.

1660
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: No, I'll look at him when I get a chance.

1661
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: I would want to know what kind of clubs I

1662
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,879
Speaker 2: got some new clubs got, don't you excited?

1663
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 5: Plase I've been working on the set.

1664
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: Of irons just rolling around in the back of his car.

1665
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: Right they're in a bag. I'd want to know, Like

1666
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: the Calloways and they expect that from him, not you.

1667
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 5: I expect you know, like I'd be excited to get

1668
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 5: a new set of eye Mike, how's your putting?

1669
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: That's another great moment underrated line.

1670
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: All right back here and Patriots Unfiltered eight five five

1671
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 2: Pass five hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot

1672
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 2: com is the email address. And this one's interesting. This

1673
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: goes to Matt Corrals. By the way, Aspen writes in

1674
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 2: from reading or is he reading from Aspen? I don't know,

1675
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 2: but he's a humble request to update the commentary highlights

1676
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 2: for the opening of the postgame show. It's time to

1677
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 2: celebrate Drake May's excellence and embrace that he's the future

1678
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 2: of the franchise. There should be plenty of calls that

1679
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 2: would be great to use from the past two games

1680
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: for his purpose. And here's hoping he just keeps adding

1681
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 2: more incredible plays. Yeah, we need to update all that stuff, right, I.

1682
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 16: Mean, if a fifty yard pass is better than a

1683
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 16: Super Bowl call, sure, well, no.

1684
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: I get his point, Matt, you don't have to be

1685
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: so defensive. Let's get some of the you know, the

1686
01:13:59,040 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: the more recent.

1687
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: Stuff in the new ones made this week. I promise.

1688
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a lot, you know, a lot of

1689
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 2: good stuff, now.

1690
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: Do we?

1691
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 7: Well?

1692
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: What is wrong with you people? To celebrate?

1693
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: Somebody's got a red ass over here? We got a

1694
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 2: bunch of Sean mcdermot's going on, all.

1695
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: Right, I get it. Long Way to Go, six, Long

1696
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: Way to Go.

1697
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 2: Listen Travis and Watertown, Connecticut. While the second half wasn't pretty,

1698
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm glad we take the win. I don't get a

1699
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: chance to listen live, but I do tend to wait

1700
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: until Mondays to listen to the picks segment. I love it,

1701
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: by the way, and it's very entertaining to listen to

1702
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: your picks and reasoning when I already know the outcomes

1703
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 2: of the game. The two best parts of hearing Mike

1704
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: pick wrong, knowing he's in last place in the picks

1705
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: and sneaky negative and the others listening to Fred's confident

1706
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 2: folks and knowing that whatever comes out will be utter nonsense.

1707
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: This week especially was fun, with the Jets losing by

1708
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 2: two and Fred being the only one to take the points, claiming, folks,

1709
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 2: this is why I'm leading in the picks, and then

1710
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 2: again calling the Panthers Cowboys upset even if.

1711
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: It was a hate pick. I did better than the

1712
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: up this week, but it's still a struggle for me

1713
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 1: in the points. It really is.

1714
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 3: This is a guy who really listens well and understands

1715
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: because he's right. Like I would love to sit here

1716
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 3: and tell you, Wow, you nailed, but I'm not going

1717
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 3: to do it because I know why you took it.

1718
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I love seeing.

1719
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 2: I love but my energy affects the games. I put

1720
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 2: it out there in the universe and its.

1721
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: A lot of good parody in the league. This year,

1722
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: it's a horrible year. I agree, Why is it horrible?

1723
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, it's not horrible, but there's just

1724
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: there's no great team.

1725
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 2: There's a lot of really bad teams, but there's no

1726
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: great Yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah, you're right. It's not

1727
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 2: necessarily bad. But I don't like pass I think it.

1728
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 2: I think the league's going through a little bit of

1729
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 2: a transition, and I think this is the greatness in

1730
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 2: the league. Seeing like a snake's shedded skin here with

1731
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 2: the league, you know, I hope so, and you have

1732
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 2: to shed the skin to get bigger.

1733
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 4: I just can't shake the feeling that a Buffalo or

1734
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 4: Kansas City or Detroit or Philadelphia are suddenly gonna start

1735
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 4: to kick in and get interested in December and play

1736
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 4: their best ball right down and we're going to be

1737
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 4: right back in another you know, Kansas City, Philadelphia and.

1738
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 5: Those cities offense is playing really well.

1739
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 3: It's three weeks in a row, so since where they

1740
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 3: got back, the offense looks totally different. And now they're

1741
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 3: going to get Rice back for the next game. But

1742
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 3: I agree with Mike. Some of those the better teams,

1743
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 3: the ones that have been good, you know for a while,

1744
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: they almost it's not like they don't want to, but

1745
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 3: it's almost.

1746
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,839
Speaker 1: They wake me up. The intention.

1747
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 3: The intention is to build and play your best at

1748
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 3: the end, whereas some other teams, and I'm not suggesting

1749
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 3: the Patriots are one of these, because I think the

1750
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 3: Patriots are building. But some other teams, you know, shoot

1751
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 3: out of the gate and they played there. You know,

1752
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 3: like Miami under McDaniel has played really well offensively at

1753
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 3: the beginning of seasons and they Pete are out. You know,

1754
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 3: they're not good this year at all, But that that

1755
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 3: happens around the league this year, I just don't see.

1756
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the ones that Mike.

1757
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 3: Said are probably the candidates Detroit and Philadelphia or as

1758
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 3: talented as anyone, and maybe Green Bays in that mix,

1759
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 3: but they lack of consistency would worry me, you know,

1760
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 3: in Kansas City and Buffalo will be there at the end.

1761
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 2: In three years, you know, we could be talking about

1762
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: Drake May being one of the best quarterbacks in the league,

1763
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 2: and I think Jackson.

1764
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: Darry will be and Jackson intends if we're allowed.

1765
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 2: Right, and Jackson Dark, you know, being the toast of

1766
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,879
Speaker 2: New York, and Michael Pennix, you know, being a good quarterback.

1767
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 2: And if that's all true, you've got new teams take.

1768
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 1: It bigger.

1769
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 5: In five years. How are we going to look back

1770
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 5: at that draft class? Yeah, a lot of good quarterbacks.

1771
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: The Drake May draft closse. Yeah no, but yeah, I mean.

1772
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 5: I know, I know he cried and everybody doesn't like him.

1773
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 5: But Caleb Williams continues to look better every week.

1774
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not saying he's there yet. He's not

1775
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: where Drake May.

1776
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 7: Is right now.

1777
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 5: Jadon Daniels is already, Jayden Daniels is pretty good, Drake

1778
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 5: May is pretty good.

1779
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. We haven't seen it at all. Pennix still learning.

1780
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 3: I thought he made some really good plays last night,

1781
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 3: some really bad plays last night. Bow Nicks looks like

1782
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 3: the ultimate game manager to me. But with that defense,

1783
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: that's good enough. He's going to be in the playoffs

1784
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 3: more than likely. Wasn't the guy that the Saints played

1785
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 3: in that class, Spencer. I mean, all of a sudden,

1786
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 3: he looked alright to me. Maybe he's their guy.

1787
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's that's a pretty good draft class.

1788
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 5: The quarterbacks, Yeah, I mean bow Knick's probably the like

1789
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 5: least physically gifted, but like he kind of was playing

1790
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 5: like a little bit like an Alex right now.

1791
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 2: And I know you have some of this, you know,

1792
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 2: early success for these quarterbacks to you know, your tight

1793
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:09,719
Speaker 2: pants coaching on offense and having systems that are quarterback friendly.

1794
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 5: I would, you know, it's too early to victory lap,

1795
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 5: but you know, Ben Johnson looking looking pretty good right

1796
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 5: now in Chicago as well, and Haskalb playing good football.

1797
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 5: I think that was just in particular, that was a

1798
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 5: really good class, and we knew it at the time

1799
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 5: that it was a really good class. You know, I

1800
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 5: look at where they were all drafted. You know, five

1801
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 5: of those guys were drafted in the top fifteen of

1802
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 5: that first round, so I think everybody was pretty well

1803
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 5: aware that six of them really that it was a

1804
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 5: good class coming out, and so far it's you know,

1805
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 5: you have two different ways it could go.

1806
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: Could go like the Mac.

1807
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 5: Jones class where Jones and fields and you know, Trevor

1808
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 5: Lawrence and that didn't go as well as Zach Wilson.

1809
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: But this one looks like it's been the He.

1810
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 3: Going to say the last time that we had one

1811
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 3: of those classes, they all kind of started. I mean,

1812
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence is another one that's decent.

1813
01:19:59,040 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, tread and water.

1814
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: Franklin and Baltimore writes in just some interesting stats to

1815
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: show how sneaky good Booty has been this year. Out

1816
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 2: of Booty's eighteen catches, sixteen of them are for first downs,

1817
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 2: and for the math nerds, that's nearly ninety percent. Boody

1818
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: currently ranks in the top ten in terms of yards

1819
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: per reception at sixteen point seven.

1820
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: That also leads the team.

1821
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 2: He has six big plays according to ESPN's tracking Big

1822
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: stat which to me brings up an interesting conversation. How

1823
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 2: are we defining a big play wide receiver? Or a

1824
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: player that gets chunk plays? Is it purely speed yack

1825
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: versatility as an inside outside threat, Because all I know

1826
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: is that whenever the team needs that chunk play, it's

1827
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 2: Booty that who's done it consistently more than anyone else.

1828
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 1: And this dates back to last year. All Right, I

1829
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: like Booty. I like him.

1830
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 2: Uh oh uh oh, but this is what he does.

1831
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 2: He's sick and tired of twenty plus catches. So no,

1832
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: his whole thing is like, this is a no time going.

1833
01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 1: This is what he runs down the field and he'll

1834
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: make down the field.

1835
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 2: So yes, that's a terrible thing. Are going to go

1836
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 2: for first downs? But like, look, god forbid you run

1837
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 2: down the field to make catches.

1838
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 4: In another world there might be a guy who could

1839
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 4: run down the field, make a catch, and then make

1840
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 4: a move and then get to the end zone.

1841
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: The boy.

1842
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 3: See, I'm okay with the amount of yards he gets

1843
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 3: on the catches. Everything that that emailer said is right.

1844
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 3: He has made chunk plays. Can I get more than

1845
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 3: eighteen of them before I say, like, he's one of

1846
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 3: the premiere big play receivers in football. Oh, I don't

1847
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 3: know if that's all that? Like every time he's been

1848
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 3: targeted this year, He's done the job. He's been outstanding

1849
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 3: in the role that he's been given. I don't have

1850
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 3: anything even taking it full circle, like the maturity that

1851
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 3: he has shown and the growth that he has shown

1852
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 3: from year one to year three, now I think has

1853
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 3: been off the charts. I don't have anything negative to

1854
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 3: say about Kayshawn Booty. But when we're going to start to.

1855
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 5: Say, like what classifies as a big play receiver more

1856
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 5: than eighteen catches?

1857
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 2: So then why can we get excited about make Drake

1858
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,879
Speaker 2: May Booty's ascension.

1859
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 3: You think Drake May is like low in the league

1860
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 3: in terms of like a number of attempts or yards, No, well.

1861
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 5: Kayshaun Booty would be. But Jan Boody's average is what

1862
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 5: it is because he doesn't have a lot of catch ups.

1863
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 2: But the point is he doesn't have a lot of

1864
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 2: drops either.

1865
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,600
Speaker 1: No, no, no, He's again, I don't have anything. I

1866
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: don't have anything negative to say about Kayshan bud him.

1867
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 5: You can get as excited as you want. I'm excited

1868
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 5: about him. I think he's just shown tremendous.

1869
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 2: You're you're like, wait and see with Kaishan Boy not wait.

1870
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 3: And see, I don't think that he'll ever be that

1871
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 3: what he is asked to do. He's been doing exceptionally

1872
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 3: high level. Yes, cat like eighty passes and does that

1873
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 3: like that's what a big play receiver, you know, Like, okay, that's.

1874
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 5: A complimentary receiver. Yes, yeah, And they you know, he's

1875
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 5: playing the X spot. I don't know if that's naturally

1876
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 5: his position, and he's playing outside a lot, and typically

1877
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:04,480
Speaker 5: in a Josh Daniel's offense, that's kind of a forgotten sacrificial, sacrificial.

1878
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: It's kind of sacrificial.

1879
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,839
Speaker 5: You're just gonna run wind sprints and you're gonna stretch

1880
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 5: coverage and clear out and do that type of thing.

1881
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 5: But when you have a quarterback like Drake that's so

1882
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 5: good at throwing outside the numbers, that that role is

1883
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 5: going to be amplified, maybe a little bit more than

1884
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 5: it would be in a different offense with a different quarterback.

1885
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 1: And so Booty is getting those targets.

1886
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,560
Speaker 5: And to his credit, you know, he's he had a

1887
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 5: lot of one on ones in this game against New

1888
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 5: Orleans and he won them. He won them in big spots.

1889
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: I like Booty. I all like Booty. I actually think, Yeah,

1890
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 1: I think I think he's that as a very we

1891
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: all like I didn't catch it. I didn't catch it

1892
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: the first I'm not gonna lie. It works both ways

1893
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: for me, It's fine. Yeah.

1894
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 3: The the development of of Booty has been I think

1895
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 3: a huge part of the offense this.

1896
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1897
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 5: I just like when you talk about this is like

1898
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 5: Chris Hogan used to be very high up in the

1899
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 5: yards per catch.

1900
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing with your yards per catch.

1901
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 3: When you only catch downfield passes but you don't catch

1902
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 3: a lot of them, your yards per catch is really high.

1903
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1904
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 3: I know, Like it's like if you catch a hundred

1905
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 3: balls and you're ad sixteen point seven yards per catch.

1906
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: Now you're talking big play receiver. Yeah, I think.

1907
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 4: I gotta say I think Keisham Bouti is outstanding contested catches,

1908
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 4: and not for a guy who's not that big.

1909
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: But he comes down consistently the whole time here with catches.

1910
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: You're like, how did he come down with that one?

1911
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean one of them last week.

1912
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 5: I mean the contact is really and he's gotten stronger

1913
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,719
Speaker 5: and better at that as his career has.

1914
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: Loved listening to him talk. Now it doesn't even sound

1915
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 1: like the same.

1916
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 5: Kid that we had two years or two years ago,

1917
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 5: one year, like last year. He's throwing growing up right

1918
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 5: before our eyes.

1919
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 3: Like him talking about like you know, the adversity he

1920
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 3: faced early on, and like you know, at one point

1921
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 3: he felt like he was going to be a first

1922
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 3: round pick. And I think the self awareness that he's

1923
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 3: displayed the development of booty has been a huge part

1924
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 3: of their offense.

1925
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard me feel on the

1926
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 4: postgame show, make this point. I'll make it again real quick,

1927
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 4: but you know, just to go from his first play

1928
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 4: as a pro, his first game.

1929
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: Is a pro, but he didn't get his feet down

1930
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 1: in bounds. Remember that.

1931
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 4: And then it was like, oh, he's on the outs,

1932
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 4: and now you have a guy that you know is

1933
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 4: going to get his feet down and stay in bounced

1934
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 4: or make those tough catches.

1935
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: So I just I thought that was a wonderful way

1936
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: to illustrate his career. Arc. I mean, it's really impressive.

1937
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 4: You got to give him a ton of credit for

1938
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 4: what what you know, all the ups and downs that

1939
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 4: he's fought through two years ago, last year to arrive.

1940
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 1: At this point. It's pretty special.

1941
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 5: If you have a guy like Diggs who can be

1942
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 5: the volume guy, and then Booty is kind of when

1943
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 5: the ball finds him and when the coverage dictates that

1944
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 5: this is where the ball is going to go, he

1945
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 5: steps up and catches eighteen of his twenty three targets

1946
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 5: so far this year, He's been exactly what they needed

1947
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 5: him to be, really solid in.

1948
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 3: Two plays again on the sideline late in games back

1949
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 3: to back weeks, showing the awareness to get down. Although

1950
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,799
Speaker 3: this this one that that they ended up getting overturned.

1951
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 3: I don't really understand the rule.

1952
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't. Someone is going to need to explain the

1953
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: rule to me.

1954
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 5: I can talk to Stretch about it later.

1955
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 3: Like he gets, he comes down, he lands, he has

1956
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 3: two feet down and he gets knocked out of bounds,

1957
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 3: and they said that he was down inbounds Like I don't.

1958
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: Well, he must other something other than his feet must

1959
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 2: have touched in bounds, right, Nope, you sure not that

1960
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 2: I saw.

1961
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 1: We have to I have to see the play again.

1962
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 3: Because maybe I miss misremembering, as Roger Clemons once famously said, yeah.

1963
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 5: He also had a play earlier on the Driver he

1964
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 5: ran an out and he's stayed in bounce on the

1965
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 5: out too, and made New Orleans burn a time out,

1966
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 5: and so he's situationally, well, yeah, that one, I know,

1967
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,879
Speaker 5: it has been like kind of off the charts, like football.

1968
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: I you, yeah, the one in Buffalo. One in Buffalo

1969
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: was exceptional.

1970
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 5: I asked him about it after the game and I

1971
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 5: was like, you meant to do that, right, and he

1972
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, you know, got to know the clock,

1973
01:26:58,240 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 5: got to know the situation.

1974
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: That was yeah. Huge. Yeah.

1975
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a difference between winning a losing play the

1976
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 3: one in Buffalo, because I'm telling you, if they had

1977
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 3: to kick the field goal and there's a minute left,

1978
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 3: you're at least going overtime.

1979
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

1980
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 2: Cody writes in I know this was mentioned in the

1981
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 2: post game a little bit, but shout out to Pop Douglas.

1982
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 2: After a really shaky start and getting some media flack,

1983
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,759
Speaker 2: he maintained his high energy, made multiple high effort plays

1984
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 2: blocking for his teammates, and finally the ball went back

1985
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: his way on Sunday and he made some huge plays.

1986
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: I think this also speaks to the culture change we've

1987
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 2: been seeing. The attitude from the wide receiver room the

1988
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 2: last few years was a little shaky, so it's great

1989
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 2: to see guys like Pop continuing to grind through some

1990
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 2: struggles and when the ball found him again capitalize awesome stuff.

1991
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I give I guess Co signed all around.

1992
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 4: It takes a lot of credit. I give Holland some

1993
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 4: credit to just for that room. We talked about it

1994
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 4: last year just they were, you know, an immature group

1995
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 4: and didn't really have a leader or an anchor. And

1996
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 4: you see from you know, even the stupid pregame speeches

1997
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 4: that Diggs has really put his stamp on this room

1998
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 4: and in this team, and and you're seeing now guys.

1999
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 4: I just hope they can continue to.

2000
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: Spread it around a little bit.

2001
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 4: It's not like you either get six catches or no catches, Like,

2002
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 4: can we find a happy medium with some of these

2003
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 4: guys and you know, keep everybody getting fed every week

2004
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 4: and keep everybody engaged and not ride that roller coaster

2005
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 4: quite as much.

2006
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 5: But the one thing that really like all around them

2007
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 5: when they transition down the field, like whether it's a

2008
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 5: pass or Drake may scramble. Guys transitioning into blockers has

2009
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 5: been contagious. It's happened multiple times for like a month

2010
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 5: now that when you watch Drake Meygan on the other

2011
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 5: line of a scrimmage. On the other side of the

2012
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, you see five eligible receivers down the

2013
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 5: field turn into blockers.

2014
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: You know, the flip to Henderson. Pop Douglas throws a block.

2015
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 5: As soon as Drake May throws the ball, he blocks

2016
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 5: his guy and helps Henderson get the corner and get

2017
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 5: the edge of Mandre like sprinting downfield on the one

2018
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 5: that didn't count and clock it the goal line. Yeah,

2019
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 5: you know, to get Pop Douglas into the end zone.

2020
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,719
Speaker 5: Like they're the blocking after the play is kind of complete.

2021
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 5: It's really become infectious and they're they're all doing it now.

2022
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: Evan.

2023
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: I like your brunt three quarters. Thank you for wearing

2024
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 2: I'm wearing my brunt boots. No nothing, I love them.

2025
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to. They're very comfortable, Mike. How

2026
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: comfortable are they?

2027
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 2: They're cushiony, Yeah, cushiony that you can wear them all day.

2028
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 1: Let's see.

2029
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 2: I'm looking for I thought we had a new Bob's read.

2030
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,719
Speaker 2: I want to tell people the exciting news about Bob's.

2031
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 2: Oh here it is, Oh high Mark. Uh are you

2032
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 2: planning your next Sunday watch party? Save big on your

2033
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 2: dream wreck room. When you bundle and save with Bob's

2034
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 2: Discount Furniture, you can bundle Bob's stylish Brian sofa and

2035
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 2: love seat together and save one hundred and seventy nine dollars.

2036
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 2: That means you can score a comfy bob Apede living

2037
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 2: room set with trendy accent pillows in three stylish colors

2038
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 2: and save major money. Now that's a winning combo, and

2039
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 2: so stop in stock up for lesson Bob's Discount Furniture,

2040
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 2: the official furniture store of the New England Patriots. So big,

2041
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 2: big news from Bob's, Bobby's, Bobby's. How was the Bob's

2042
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 2: Discount Furniture studio in the preseason?

2043
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 1: Paul Company, they take it, Mike be able to talk

2044
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 1: about it? Filled in. Yeah, a little cold in there,

2045
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 1: but it was cold. They got to keep those studios

2046
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 1: cold because of the lights. We go heavy on the

2047
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 1: waters too, I think, Yeah, a lot of to get

2048
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: my makeup done. That was exciting. Oh stop, pancake on,

2049
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a big stop.

2050
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 2: Let's see, Kyle says. What's holding Drake back from winning

2051
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,560
Speaker 2: m v P this year? Does NFL media account for

2052
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 2: things like strength of schedule or is it solely hustle

2053
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 2: results and wins.

2054
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 1: Nothing would be holding him, I would anything hold him back?

2055
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean in some ways I feel like the

2056
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 4: lack of running game amplifies his candidacy.

2057
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the.

2058
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 5: Big reason why if you extrapolate everything from what you

2059
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 5: have right now, like through the end of the season,

2060
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 5: I think it'd be hard to look at a guy

2061
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 5: like Baker Mayfield and say that that's not like an

2062
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 5: MVP season. But it's six games, right, So, like, does

2063
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 5: anybody think Baker Mayfield is going to win the MVP

2064
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 5: right now?

2065
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean I don't should.

2066
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:37,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's been a player more valuable

2067
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 3: to his team than Mayfield has been.

2068
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 5: And I think the MVP award would be better with him,

2069
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 5: But Drake may I don't know how many you want

2070
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 5: to put it is there are the three guys that

2071
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 5: are any more deserving than Drake may I'd be hard

2072
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 5: pressed to come up with with them. I have a

2073
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 5: this is a running theory of mine. So in the NBA,

2074
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 5: they have a Most Improved Player award, not comeback player.

2075
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 5: A comeback player is supposed to be an injury right,

2076
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 5: like you had an ACL and then he came back

2077
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 5: and you played well. So they have a Most Improved

2078
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 5: Player award in the NBA, and I think that comeback

2079
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 5: player there's a lot of votes that end up going

2080
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 5: to a player that's really the most improved player, but

2081
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 5: it ends up kind of getting like, so I think

2082
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 5: that the NFL should have also have a most improved

2083
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 5: Player running for that, right, So like, maybe he's not

2084
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 5: winning MVP yet, but he might be the most improved

2085
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 5: player in the league from last year to this year.

2086
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 5: And then that's like I'm not making an award just

2087
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 5: to give it to Drake, Like I've already had this idea, yeah,

2088
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 5: for a while now, because I think what happens, Like

2089
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,719
Speaker 5: it kind of came up with the Joe Flacco DeMar

2090
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 5: Hamlin come back Player of the Year, Right, Joe Flacco

2091
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 5: came back from being bad, Like Joe Flacker didn't come

2092
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,640
Speaker 5: back from a major injury where he didn't play. He

2093
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 5: came back from not being good of being good again.

2094
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 5: And so I just wonder if maybe there's like a

2095
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 5: different award and then that way, like that.

2096
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 1: Most improved right, yeah, the major award, Yeah, yeah.

2097
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 5: Now we have an offensive line award, So we already

2098
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 5: got year.

2099
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 1: That's that goes hard so doesn't so does it?

2100
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 2: Not to get into too much of a rabbit hole,

2101
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:21,440
Speaker 2: But does the most improved.

2102
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 1: Player have to be a young player?

2103
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 5: No, not necessarily. I don't think there's an age on.

2104
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 2: It, because like, let's just say you were good and

2105
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 2: then you weren't good for a couple of years and

2106
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you got good again. Show

2107
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 2: is that improvement?

2108
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 5: Is that like a bounce back or well I think

2109
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 5: it's improvement. And again, like that player would be nominated

2110
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 5: for comeback Player of the Year, right right, which doesn't

2111
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 5: make any sense, Like that's not what.

2112
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying.

2113
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm wondering if it would always be

2114
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 2: a young player that would get the.

2115
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:55,839
Speaker 1: Most bounce back player of the year, most just most comeback.

2116
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 2: But this is the same about breakout Player of the Year.

2117
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 5: Sure, right, if you want to call it that, that's

2118
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 5: kind of the same. Fourth But I feel like the

2119
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 5: other issue is like did we have we see this

2120
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 5: with Coach of the Year.

2121
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 1: Know how much I hate the comeback play? You don't

2122
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 1: like because this is it right here?

2123
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but breakout player that could go like any time, like, oh,

2124
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 2: your fifth year, all of a sudden he broke out.

2125
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 2: Do you think Drake's more improved or more breakout this

2126
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 2: year though both? I mean it's hard to say which

2127
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 2: is which.

2128
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 5: I just think the comeback player the air war just

2129
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 5: has too much gray area of what what is coming

2130
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 5: back from? Yeah, to me, it has to be like injury, right,

2131
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 5: Like you had a season ending.

2132
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 2: Injury unless you were like in jail and came back.

2133
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 5: To me, you know, if he has like a thousand

2134
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 5: yard plus season like Stefan Diggs, could be nominated for

2135
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 5: Comeback Player in the year, right right, But like I

2136
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 5: wouldn't give Comeback Player the Year to Drake, Like that

2137
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 5: would make.

2138
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: No sense, right right right?

2139
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 2: You could break out sponsored by Cleariso.

2140
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, bad thing. I want to clear up the

2141
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 1: breakout so they eliminate the break out.

2142
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 2: Jeffrey and Canada. If we had held on to the

2143
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 2: ball against Pittsburgh, we'd be number one seed in the AFC.

2144
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 1: Right now, that's crazy.

2145
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 2: That said, I think the Pittsburgh game might end up

2146
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 2: being the best thing that happened to this team. They

2147
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 2: learned that if we play well, we belong on the

2148
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 2: field with anyone. Should the Patriots go all in right

2149
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 2: now and trade for a good receiver and a veteran

2150
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 2: running back both, He says, Drake May's on a rookie contract.

2151
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 2: We could be pushing to be a legit contender right now.

2152
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: To me, they kind of have a buyer feel to them,

2153
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 1: or they should have a buyer.

2154
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 4: They got some real talented receiver, they have some you know,

2155
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 4: cap space to work with, and this is the sweet

2156
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:41,520
Speaker 4: spot where you know it's time to be aggressive.

2157
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 1: They have some talent needs at some spots. So what

2158
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: would you give up for a running back?

2159
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 10: Yeah?

2160
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: Right now? Give up a third round. I was like thinking,

2161
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 1: third is the highest I think i'd get. I mean

2162
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:53,679
Speaker 1: for a legit guy.

2163
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,719
Speaker 5: Because we're going to be picking the last paper.

2164
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 2: I might do seconds, I might do second.

2165
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, running back. I don't even want to use a

2166
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 3: second round pick on a running back out of the draft.

2167
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 5: I know I would say a third, but maybe a

2168
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:07,919
Speaker 5: little bit of hot take, Like, I don't I wouldn't

2169
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 5: necessarily say receiver is.

2170
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 1: Now if it's a J. Brown, like that's a different story.

2171
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 5: But like just adding another receiver just to add another receiver,

2172
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 5: I don't think they necessarily. I would rather trade for

2173
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 5: running back, maybe another impact player.

2174
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 2: I know he's older, but just think about what Henry

2175
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 2: would be on this team. All of a sudden, now

2176
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 2: you do have to respect the run, and that makes

2177
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Speaker 2: the entire offense.

2178
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 1: They respect the run anymore than they're doing.

2179
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 5: But now, well, now you might be able to run

2180
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 5: into might be able to do it even though they're

2181
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 5: putting eight in the box.

2182
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 7: Right.

2183
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 1: The problem is he makes the whole offense.

2184
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 5: They can't run against the stack box. They're they're not

2185
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 5: good at it. If you have a back that can

2186
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 5: break tackles and that sort of thing, then maybe you

2187
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 5: can run against seven and eight man box.

2188
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: Maybe in theory.

2189
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 2: Not interested, Okay, I mean Barton Poland.

2190
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 1: I know that's saying Mike would be interested. I would

2191
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: be good for me on the show.

2192
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 5: I think Derek Mike would never come back from the

2193
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 5: locker I first I first felt from the locker room.

2194
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 5: I'm not a running you know, I'm not a running

2195
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 5: backs guy. But I just look at their office. I

2196
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 5: think it's the most deficient part of their.

2197
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 1: They need somebody.

2198
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 3: I mean, if it was Derek Henry, I certainly wouldn't

2199
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 3: sit here and say what a terrible move.

2200
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: They need they need help.

2201
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 2: We have two guys go to Tennessee and he comes

2202
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 2: back with us save money on the flight.

2203
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 1: He plays for Baltimore. So oh, that's right, he's not

2204
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 1: with Tennessee anymore. I forgot.

2205
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 2: We played bald That's too late, though, we can't wait

2206
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:38,679
Speaker 2: that long.

2207
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 5: After the dead yells the Jets that Jets would never

2208
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 5: do that in the Division.

2209
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 1: Jets would never do that. I agree with Fred. He's

2210
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 1: in a contract here already, but he missed this whole

2211
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 1: first year.

2212
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I think I don't see the Jets trading

2213
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 5: him in the division.

2214
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 1: The Bell getting some time on Good Morning Football Barton Poland.

2215
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 2: I know that's saying that some thing was the best

2216
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 2: the worst of all time is almost always overreacting, but

2217
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 2: this really was one of the worst refereeing performances in

2218
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 2: league history, and I don't think I'm exaggerating. If someone

2219
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,680
Speaker 2: finds me ten worst referee games ever, I'll buy him

2220
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 2: a beer. The crew gut based accepted the crew gut

2221
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 2: basically every single call wrong, small ones, big ones, phantom

2222
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 2: run ones, even the calls they got right, they got wrong.

2223
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 1: Fire them all to the sun.

2224
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 4: I ask what it was on the late flag where

2225
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 4: we didn't even see it thrown on TV. I never

2226
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 4: even saw it thrown.

2227
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 3: That was the I will say, the single individual worst

2228
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 3: call I've ever seen to wipe out the second touchdown.

2229
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like that. And then later that

2230
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 3: night I kind of saw the same thing. The offense

2231
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 3: for the Detroit Lions is on the bench celebrating and

2232
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 3: you know, helmets off and.

2233
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 2: Flag like.

2234
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't know what going on in

2235
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:58,759
Speaker 1: that league. I don't understand it. I just sky judge.

2236
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:03,719
Speaker 2: But even the report after I makes no sense.

2237
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 5: They need somebody that the ball's not in the air,

2238
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 5: it's not past interference. They need a sky judge. I

2239
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 5: need somebody that's up top that is reviewing all these

2240
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 5: calls and is saying either guys, I agree, pick up

2241
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 5: the flag or whatever. And I know they have the

2242
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 5: expedited replay now, but that's more for like turnovers and

2243
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 5: in bounds, out of bounds spotting the ball. It's not

2244
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 5: for judgment calls like pass interference. The judgment calls of

2245
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 5: just they need to do a better job of judging

2246
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 5: the judgment calls, and it happens so fast that they're

2247
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 5: just getting a lot of these wrong.

2248
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 1: Like the digs.

2249
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 5: One he puts his hand on the.

2250
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 2: Guy's supposed to look for the extended arm.

2251
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't have. I don't have it. He just I

2252
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 1: don't have a huge. I don't have that one.

2253
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 3: Other than the the ramifications, you have no problem with

2254
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 3: that one, I didn't say I had no problem with

2255
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 3: I sai, I didn't have a huge. I've seen that

2256
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 3: call many times. I've never seen I've never ever seen

2257
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 3: somewhere between five and ten yards downfield a receiver of

2258
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 3: a defen it back locked up to wipe out a

2259
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 3: fifty yard pass. I've never seen that in all the

2260
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 3: years I've ever watched football. I've seen guys get an

2261
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 3: advantage with the arm coming out. Yeah, they flip a coin.

2262
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 3: Some days it's it's a penalty something. Booty kind of

2263
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 3: does it in the end zone in his touchdown.

2264
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 1: No call on that one. Yeah, I've seen that called.

2265
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 1: I've seen it not called.

2266
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 3: I've never seen the first Stefon Diggs offensive pass interference

2267
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 3: called in all my years.

2268
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: Well, that's the single worst call I've ever seen.

2269
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 3: And to Mike's point, the fact that it seemingly came

2270
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 3: after Drake May was already on the bench and the

2271
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 3: team is on the field.

2272
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 2: Well, he had a process it pull like I I

2273
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:43,560
Speaker 2: that was I don't really understand. It's got to be

2274
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 2: some accountability.

2275
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: I didn't see the pool report. I'm interested, Oh you

2276
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 1: got to read this one.

2277
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 3: Who couldn't have been any worse than the Pool report

2278
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 3: that I did read on that Jared Goff play like

2279
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 3: and I understand, like the technicality, this is what I

2280
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 3: was talking about last week. The game is over officiated

2281
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 3: and it's too complicated. They want a trick play with

2282
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 3: the quarterback from under center of the Lions. And it

2283
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 3: kind of didn't fool Kansas City. I mean, I'm on

2284
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,640
Speaker 3: Saint Brown created the touchdown with a great block, like

2285
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 3: there was a guy out there to make the play,

2286
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 3: Like what is the whole thing about? Like you can't

2287
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 3: come out? He's in motion, Like everybody sees his in motion.

2288
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 3: Everybody knows he's an eligible receiver. Why does he then

2289
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 3: have to stop for a second?

2290
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 2: And so just don't want him to give a running

2291
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 2: start too much of an advantage, I guess, But he's

2292
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 2: like you I see that all the time now, guys

2293
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 2: going in motion and they never stop and they don't

2294
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 2: call it, and then.

2295
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes they do. They just storing in motion is not

2296
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:40,799
Speaker 1: a penalty.

2297
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 5: But when you turn toward the line, Oh that's going

2298
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 5: up field, that's an illegal shift.

2299
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 3: That's different. He wasn't going up Sometimes they don't call it,

2300
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 3: not anymore. It's called almost every time.

2301
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 1: Now. I was watch hicking on things that they call

2302
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: every single time. Mimi.

2303
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 2: I was watching it on Sunday.

2304
01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 5: It was like, oh my god, he just he's that

2305
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 5: needs to be a pay I got called because he

2306
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 5: didn't stop.

2307
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about our game.

2308
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about Jared Goff as the quarterback. He

2309
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 3: goes under center and he becomes the traditional quarterback even

2310
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 3: though he didn't put his hands underneath right, because he

2311
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 3: did that, he's not allowed to go in motion without stopping.

2312
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 1: Like why is that a rule? Like it's so over complicated.

2313
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 3: And you know again, I watched the Bears last night

2314
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 3: lose a touchdown because they deemed that the tackles lined

2315
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 3: up too far back. And then they go to the

2316
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 3: replay and the rules experts say, is, I don't know

2317
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 3: what they're looking at? There is helmet is is even

2318
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 3: with the centers behind. I don't there's not what I

2319
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 3: would have called, like, how many times did they take

2320
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 3: away these big plays?

2321
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it happened on the one before, you know,

2322
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:47,959
Speaker 5: to Diggs they call an a legal shift on Remandre

2323
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 5: on third down that had absolutely nothing nothing, and it

2324
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 5: wipes out a first down. Then then the Patriots false

2325
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 5: start and get into like third and twelve or something seventeen,

2326
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 5: and the bomb to Diggs gets wiped out by and

2327
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 5: then finally he throws incomplete again to Inference, but he

2328
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 5: easily could have been in afference. It was just a

2329
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 5: comedy of just ridiculousness, like the illegal shift on Remandri

2330
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 5: I like, okay, maybe he like kind of like moved in.

2331
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: His a little one telling me.

2332
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 3: I was like, I read it the same way you did.

2333
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,599
Speaker 3: They called it on Stevenson for kind of not setting

2334
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 3: and which constituted two guys in motion, which I hate,

2335
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 3: but whatever. Someone told me today that it was actually

2336
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 3: called on Digs for going upfield.

2337
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 1: It's in it's in the book. It's in the book,

2338
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 1: says Stevenson.

2339
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't know if you know if they

2340
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 5: but on that one drive, there's three calls that impacted

2341
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 5: the possession.

2342
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 3: Like we had some calls that were sort of like

2343
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 3: you know, unfortunately, they just couldn't they couldn't quite finish

2344
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 3: the game. Off they got sloppy in the second I

2345
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I might. I know, I worked with

2346
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 3: Patriots dot Com. I'm going to cut him some slack.

2347
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 3: I think the offense was perfectly fine in the second

2348
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 3: half except for stuff like that, like they weren't going

2349
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 3: to get stopped on that drive if not for the help.

2350
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 3: And again I'm not just saying it was one side

2351
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 3: because it wasn't. Like you know, someone said to me,

2352
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 3: Someone said to me like, this is these kinds of

2353
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,639
Speaker 3: games lead you to believe that the games are fixed.

2354
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 3: I go, yeah, well, who's it fixed for? Like they're

2355
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 3: just flipping coins the whole day. It's unbelievable.

2356
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 5: How how like, I don't know, because if he hits

2357
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 5: the you know, the one, the digs are and field

2358
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 5: goal range just automatically on the throat to dick absolutely

2359
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 5: and if they called the one the next play on

2360
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 5: Holland right now, it's you know, But I also think

2361
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 5: there was probably you know, there was a Marcus Jones

2362
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 5: kind of tug of the arm on the alave one

2363
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 5: that could have been Again, I don't want to see calls.

2364
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 1: I just want to see the guys make place.

2365
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 5: Like I get it, it's moving fast. Diggs does put

2366
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 5: his hand out on the guy.

2367
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 1: The illegals that one.

2368
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 5: I can understand the illegal shift penalty on Remandre, Like

2369
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 5: we have to have a understanding of does this impact

2370
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:11,639
Speaker 5: the play or not? Like is this is him moving

2371
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 5: two inches from his left to his right? Is that

2372
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 5: the difference between this play working and this play not work.

2373
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,639
Speaker 1: I don't understand why it's a rule, but was fooling right?

2374
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 5: It's not there's no advantage that he is gaining from

2375
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 5: being able to do that. He didn't probably even do

2376
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 5: it on purpose. So like these we see this every

2377
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 5: you know, Paul's right, Like you know Lineman is an

2378
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:36,839
Speaker 5: inch you know back too far back into the backfield,

2379
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 5: or this motion is illegal because of X, Y and

2380
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 5: Z if there's no clear advantage that's being presented to

2381
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 5: the offense or the defense because it's something I don't

2382
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 5: know why.

2383
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 2: They're getting So what about like hockey, you have a

2384
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 2: delayed call and sometimes you just blow it off because

2385
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 2: it really doesn't impact, Like icing or something like that.

2386
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:57,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what do they have delayed calls in

2387
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 2: hockey for everything? But like, but what if you have

2388
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 2: like a flag that comes out that it's a delayed call.

2389
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 2: So if this ends up impacting the play, it's gonna

2390
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 2: be a penalty. So I don't think you can say that.

2391
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 1: No, I don't think you can do that.

2392
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:16,639
Speaker 3: Now. I would say, to Evans's point about the sky judge, Guy, judge,

2393
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 3: can you just have some common sense on the play?

2394
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 1: To Douglas ask the dude at the bar, So can't

2395
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 1: the sky.

2396
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 3: Judge just say, we're really gonna call this play seven

2397
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 3: yards downfield with two guys sort of jostling one another. Right,

2398
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 3: no problem, there is no flag on the play, right,

2399
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,719
Speaker 3: pick it up. Results of the play is a touchdown hockey.

2400
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 3: We would have another paragraph to say after that, but

2401
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 3: it's pretty simple.

2402
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 2: Ivans in California, what's up?

2403
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 1: Ivan?

2404
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 2: Hey?

2405
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:48,799
Speaker 20: Happy first place Tuesday.

2406
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 2: Guys.

2407
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 20: There we go, We enjoy it. I know you guys,

2408
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 20: you were touching on some of the things I wanted

2409
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 20: to bring up, But I just say number one. Uh,

2410
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,600
Speaker 20: doesn't make me a homer to say that that was

2411
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 20: the most egregious terrible day of flags throwing I've ever

2412
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 20: seen in my life. And the thing it sucks is

2413
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,680
Speaker 20: that it takes a little bit of the joy out

2414
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 20: of watching the game, you know what I mean. And

2415
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:16,360
Speaker 20: I hope somehow, some way, somebody at the headquarters says,

2416
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,600
Speaker 20: figures out a way to make, you know, the entertainment

2417
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 20: value a little bit higher instead of having to be

2418
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 20: talking about this stuff, you know what I mean.

2419
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know the league is really promoting flag

2420
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 2: football these days.

2421
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point, because that's what it looks like.

2422
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:32,600
Speaker 3: There's twenty five penalties every game, every game, right, And

2423
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think it last night, I

2424
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 3: trying to check out, like I can't watch the games anymore.

2425
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 3: It's it's really hard when every big play gets wiped out.

2426
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, crazy, it really is. It's like every good play,

2427
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,799
Speaker 20: you're like, okay, hold on a second, is there flag?

2428
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 10: Oh no?

2429
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,560
Speaker 20: And then it's just I just hope they fixed it.

2430
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 20: But with that said, I know you guys have been

2431
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 20: harping out that. I got a question for you. As

2432
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 20: far as the running backs. I mean, I know Henry

2433
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,640
Speaker 20: was thrown out there, and maybe Baltimore, both South and

2434
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 20: maybe they're willing to. But if not Henry, who else

2435
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 20: do you think we could we could target? Because that

2436
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 20: absolutely has become the number one the number one need

2437
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 20: what that'll take it off line?

2438
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 3: I think it's hard because a lot of teams need

2439
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 3: running backs. Yeah, there's such attrition at that position.

2440
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 2: What if there was a real, you know, one of

2441
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 2: the best guards available, what would you give.

2442
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:27,560
Speaker 7: Up for that?

2443
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 1: Why would the one of the best guards be available.

2444
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 2: For the same reason that Breess Hall might be available

2445
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 2: because the team stakes.

2446
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, Brireee Hall is one of the best

2447
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,559
Speaker 1: running backs whatever.

2448
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 7: You know what?

2449
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 1: And I don't even know that.

2450
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 2: You say, why why would anyone be available because they

2451
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 2: want to get.

2452
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 1: Rid of or to your point, I don't even know

2453
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 1: that Breess Hall is available.

2454
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm but like, why would and why would Derrick Henry

2455
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 2: be available?

2456
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,719
Speaker 5: Well, because Baltimore is one in five exactly, so maybe

2457
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:57,640
Speaker 5: the team is also in.

2458
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 1: The last year of his deal. If he's one of

2459
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 1: the best guards in football, like he's part of my future.

2460
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if that's the difference, but maybe

2461
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 2: he's an older guy, but he's still one of the best.

2462
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 1: I know what you're getting I don't know. I wouldn't

2463
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 1: be interested in acquiring a guy. Yeah, I wouldn't be

2464
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 1: interested in acquiring Okay, just say that I'm going to

2465
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:18,080
Speaker 1: make moves. It's going to be like to impact my teams.

2466
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 5: Like what if Joe Toney was available for some reason

2467
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 5: he was Oh he was available and you weren't.

2468
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm you know what I'm saying, Like, there's

2469
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 2: other places besides running back could upgrade that would help

2470
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:30,480
Speaker 2: the running.

2471
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 1: Get point in your Joe Tony retort. It was an

2472
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 1: excellent one friend. Okay, No, I'm saying.

2473
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 5: I was wrong, right, Joe tuning things?

2474
01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 1: Okay, I was wrong. Who's wrong? Who's a little running

2475
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 1: back for the Chargers? You see this guy? But now yeah, yeah, yeah,

2476
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:48,759
Speaker 1: he's like with running back My point?

2477
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 7: Right?

2478
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: You said teams looking, I mean they're probably looking too. Well,

2479
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: that's what's amazing. He's like a little Danny woodhead out there,

2480
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 1: like Rico.

2481
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,680
Speaker 5: Dowell is having like two hundred yards from scrimmage and

2482
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:00,599
Speaker 5: the Patriots can't find a running fact they can break

2483
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 5: a tackle like it just it makes no like it's

2484
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,600
Speaker 5: not a Paul and I are usually lockstep on the

2485
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 5: running backs like they're a dime a dozen't and the

2486
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:09,639
Speaker 5: Patriots don't have a dime right now.

2487
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 2: Like I just.

2488
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:15,080
Speaker 1: It's like crazy, But but like I don't.

2489
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 2: Know, maybe with the Chargers it's the opposite. Teams are

2490
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 2: giving for a bird a lot of respect and they're

2491
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 2: not loading the box and that makes it easier for

2492
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 2: the running back.

2493
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2494
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 5: I would definitely be more concerned if you know, they

2495
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 5: go into next week in Tennessee, and Tennessee just says

2496
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 5: we're just going to play quarters in two high safeties

2497
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 5: and we're gonna let's see. Maybe if they can't they.

2498
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 1: Still can't run it, well we got problem.

2499
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 5: But if they can, what do you say that it's chess, Matt,

2500
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 5: it's fixed, that's it.

2501
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 1: Then well then I would just I want to know

2502
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 1: what point total is at the end.

2503
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chester's in Portland?

2504
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 1: What's up? Chester?

2505
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,640
Speaker 12: How the field fellas? It feels good Born too and

2506
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 12: a top the a scas man, I'm loving it. Got

2507
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 12: to keep this momentum rolling because this team is coming

2508
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 12: of age big time right in front of our eyes.

2509
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:07,360
Speaker 12: By the way, Freddy Scalavino just called said he wants

2510
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 12: his sweater. The FBI is reporting that there's a Whitey

2511
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 12: Bowser siding and the Patriots Dunfilter Studio aka Paul Perilla

2512
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:18,560
Speaker 12: with his shamrock.

2513
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 13: Good stuff. Man.

2514
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:24,599
Speaker 12: I just gotta say it's it's really good to see

2515
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 12: the Pats beat a team that they're supposed to beat,

2516
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 12: even though those horrible officials almost derailed the momentum and

2517
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 12: efforts there at one point. But Drake May that long

2518
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 12: ball looks so beautiful, man. I mean, I think all

2519
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:38,559
Speaker 12: of us were on our feet on both of those throws,

2520
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 12: including the one.

2521
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 13: Polt that was called back.

2522
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 12: But what a long ball he throws.

2523
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 13: It is so pretty, you know.

2524
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 12: One concerned to know, you know, we'll talk about the

2525
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 12: running game today. We got worked in the trenches on

2526
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 12: both sides this last game, and I think you guys

2527
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 12: need to kind of elaborate on what's going on there

2528
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:57,679
Speaker 12: because I think we don't we need to really improve

2529
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 12: in the trenches. I'm concerned that this may be at

2530
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 12: you know, a long term thing that might might hurt us,

2531
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 12: you know, down the road when we get against more

2532
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 12: more persistent pass rushes.

2533
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 1: And so on.

2534
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 12: Uh, Big Mike, you know, I think elderd mentioned in

2535
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,640
Speaker 12: the post game, but Big Mike really struggled there with

2536
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 12: some of the pass rush, and I think these running

2537
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 12: backs just aren't getting much of an ability to get

2538
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 12: to that second effort. You know, it's time to turn

2539
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 12: the page quickly because I feel like Tennessee again is

2540
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 12: one of those where the guard can go down a

2541
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 12: little bit. Gotta, you know, continue to front load these wins.

2542
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 13: We gotta front load.

2543
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 12: And continue to build these wins early and often and

2544
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 12: get a cushion because to me, the biggest award I

2545
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:40,360
Speaker 12: went with Drake way may win is AFC East Champion.

2546
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:40,759
Speaker 13: Baby.

2547
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 12: That's where we need to start looking trying to soak

2548
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 12: up some excitement for some continue winning here, guys with

2549
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,080
Speaker 12: some positive product progress. Shout out to the PFW Elite

2550
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 12: and the whack pack, the best fans out there by apparel,

2551
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 12: op and out.

2552
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 7: Baby.

2553
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:59,799
Speaker 2: All right, I forgot about them, Yeah right, scriber bash

2554
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 2: like elite members, they sort of separated.

2555
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 1: They call themselves elite.

2556
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 5: Big Mike was fine in past protection Remember the fights

2557
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 5: among the elites.

2558
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember they had not elite.

2559
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had Colorado Pats fan says, booties need touchdown

2560
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:15,719
Speaker 2: in bounds.

2561
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 1: Okay on the play, Okay, yeah.

2562
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,480
Speaker 5: On the table. You can see Rabel on the sideline

2563
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 5: going like this, and like then he like they stopped

2564
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 5: the clock and he like looks at the ref flake.

2565
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:28,640
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

2566
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 1: Like he was right there on it.

2567
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 3: And I actually that I worried about it and it

2568
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 3: turned out like it wasn't. But like if you if

2569
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 3: you watch it in super slow mo from the front,

2570
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 3: he sort of catches it like up around his chest

2571
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:46,640
Speaker 3: and the ball kind of slides down to his mid

2572
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 3: section as he's falling back and his butt lands out

2573
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 3: a bounds. Yeah, And I was like, oh, I don't

2574
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 3: know about this challenge because the whole play is now

2575
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 3: under review when you challenge, and I was afraid they're

2576
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 3: going to, like especially I said this to my's not catch,

2577
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,640
Speaker 3: but the way this game has been officiated, you know,

2578
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 3: like who knows what's going to come out of this.

2579
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:11,639
Speaker 3: And I was like, could they rule that he didn't

2580
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 3: have full control when his feet came down and then

2581
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 3: he didn't gain full control until he landed out of bounds. Yeah,

2582
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 3: That's what I was worried about at the time.

2583
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 1: Now I don't think that was the case, but.

2584
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 5: I mean when they overturned it was a fumble. But

2585
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:28,679
Speaker 5: when they overturned the Alice punch out, I was surprised

2586
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 5: just because they overturned it like that was.

2587
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 1: Hard to see. That was hard to see.

2588
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 3: The black uniform made it hard, but you could clearly

2589
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 3: see on the punch out the wall moved. Yeah, But

2590
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 3: the question was does he have control of it when

2591
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 3: he hits the ground or not? Yeah, And it was

2592
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 3: kind of hard to tell, But I thought that was

2593
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 3: a fumble all the way.

2594
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 5: I do agree with the caller about the offensive line

2595
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 5: in general, though I do worry a little bit that

2596
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 5: it's a kind of a house of cards, like they've

2597
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 5: they've grated out really well in all the past. Production

2598
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 5: metrics like much much better than last year. But there's

2599
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 5: just these little kind of bubbling things under the surface

2600
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 5: where I'm like, they're kind of holding this together right now,

2601
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 5: but is this going to kind of kind of crack?

2602
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:18,000
Speaker 3: It might be the best example of May's growth is

2603
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 3: I think a lot of these plays, same amount of

2604
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 3: pressure last year would have resulted in different outcomes than

2605
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:27,800
Speaker 3: they have this year. He's been so good at I

2606
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:31,320
Speaker 3: think navigating the pocket and moving around, avoiding sacks to

2607
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:34,800
Speaker 3: evans point, protecting the ball when he's doing it. I

2608
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:38,600
Speaker 3: think that's an underrated part of his development, his ability

2609
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 3: in the pocket, whether like it was against Buffalo where

2610
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 3: he's leaving the pocket or this week were we're just

2611
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 3: moving around the pocket.

2612
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 1: Last year, a lot of those.

2613
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 3: Plays were just like over when he got the when

2614
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 3: you got that kind of pressure, like he's either throwing

2615
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 3: it away or getting sacked.

2616
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think you know what you're You're

2617
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 5: going to kind of be on this roller coaster with

2618
01:55:56,240 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 5: the rookies on the left side. Like Bradbury's been solid

2619
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 5: in pass protection and really kind of all around. But

2620
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 5: like is that going to last? Like he wasn't very

2621
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 5: good last year in Minnesota, So does that go the

2622
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 5: whole season? Moses been healthy, like, you know, does he

2623
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 5: stay healthy? It just if there's some of these small

2624
01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 5: sea concerns of like bubbling.

2625
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 1: Up under the surface.

2626
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 5: You know, I still can't run the ball, like the

2627
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 5: offensive line is a little Yeah, it's still a little

2628
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 5: bit of a question mark.

2629
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 2: Barton Poland also says about the booty play, the clock

2630
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 2: doesn't stop if the player goes out of bounds backwards.

2631
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:38,080
Speaker 2: I remember a team On's losing a game because of

2632
01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:40,720
Speaker 2: a great job of recognizing it by Rabel and once

2633
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 2: again a horrible job by the crew.

2634
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 3: He didn't go out of bounce backwards, but if he was,

2635
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 3: if something hit in bounds first, then that's why the

2636
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 3: clock should have continued to run.

2637
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, yeah.

2638
01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 3: Like in other words, if nobody from the Saints touched him,

2639
01:56:57,960 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 3: does he go out of bounds?

2640
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:02,360
Speaker 1: I think yes.

2641
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 3: I think he was falling back out of bounds. But

2642
01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 3: if his knee hit in bounds and no one touched him,

2643
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 3: it's still going to be stopping the clock because he

2644
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 3: went out of bounds without getting touched.

2645
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 1: But that's where the difference would be. Yep, Okay, But

2646
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 1: it was a good awareness challenge.

2647
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:27,280
Speaker 3: Back to back weeks for Booty, huge plays, keeping the

2648
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 3: clock running.

2649
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 2: All right, listen, we're going to have back to back

2650
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 2: show in fact, three in a row this week, like

2651
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 2: we do every week during the season, So we'll be

2652
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 2: back tomorrow at noon. Turn the page. We'll start to

2653
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 2: look at these Tennessee Titans with their new head coach.

2654
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 2: Do they get the new head coach bump?

2655
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 5: They also have a new offensive line coach, which is

2656
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 5: not would you quit with.

2657
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:48,640
Speaker 1: Your son, Paul? If we can if Will got fired

2658
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 1: and you were on his staff, would you go out

2659
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 1: to sure sneaky big thing. I thought he was the

2660
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:55,640
Speaker 1: problem to guy, I would I.

2661
01:57:55,600 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 3: Would definitely, I would definitely quit if twenty.

2662
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 1: Twomorrow morning, how's part? What does Barth think about all this?

2663
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 1: How was he, you know, dealing with this?

2664
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 5: So I think there's nobody on the planet that's more

2665
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 5: excited that the Bills are kind of I mean, he

2666
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 5: has been predicting it for six straight years, so he

2667
01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 5: might finally be onto something today that Josh Allen will

2668
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 5: win a super Bowl, but it will be with a

2669
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 5: different team.

2670
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:23,160
Speaker 1: He won't be with the Bills.

2671
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, that's a little bit of

2672
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 3: a departure because he thinks Josh Allen stinks.

2673
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 5: I was like, let's calm down, all right, they're they're

2674
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:29,880
Speaker 5: four and two. They're not two and four.

2675
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,800
Speaker 1: All right. There, they had a couple of bad weeks.

2676
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 1: How differently you can look at a FOURD. You're chiefs

2677
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:38,080
Speaker 1: still looking better. Their offense has been better the last

2678
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 1: three weeks. Yeah. Notice why I say you're chiefs. He

2679
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 1: isn't saying I don't know why they're my chiefs, But

2680
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 1: you root I don't have teams. You know who you

2681
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:46,960
Speaker 1: root for them because fans don't. I'll tell you who

2682
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 1: I want them to lose. You want them.

2683
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 3: There's one team in the league outside of New England

2684
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 3: that I go to root for on a regular basis,

2685
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 3: and that's the ROMs.

2686
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 1: The ROMs. Yeah, I like.

2687
01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 3: I've always liked Matthew Stafford and I just like the

2688
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:01,120
Speaker 3: program that they built and the fact that they did

2689
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:03,400
Speaker 3: it without doing it the way everybody says you have to.

2690
01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 1: I kind of like that.

2691
01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 5: They again, they loaded up, they loaded up, and now

2692
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 5: they've drafted really well, They've done a lot of different things.

2693
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:13,520
Speaker 1: Well. I like the way the Rams have put it.

2694
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 2: Again, he's rooting for something just to prove fans wrong.

2695
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 1: It always doesn't matter.

2696
01:59:17,640 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 2: Well, just to prove fans that's what.

2697
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 1: You want to go with, that's it. I like the

2698
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 1: way that they've gone about business.

2699
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 7: Right.

2700
01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 1: Everybody says, you can't, you can't do it that way.

2701
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:30,040
Speaker 1: You can't sustain it, you can't sustain it. It's the

2702
01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:34,440
Speaker 1: brainwashing from here. What round did they get Pooka in? Seventh?

2703
01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:35,040
Speaker 5: Fifth?

2704
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 1: Fifth, fourth or fifth?

2705
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we will see you tomorrow. Hey, this

2706
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:44,320
Speaker 2: is Alex.

2707
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:45,560
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2708
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:47,120
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2709
01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:49,840
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2710
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:51,000
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2711
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:53,640
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2712
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:56,240
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2713
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:57,520
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2714
01:59:57,800 --> 01:59:58,280
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