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Speaker 1: Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife.

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Speaker 1: She couldn't. She cleaned and cared for her children and

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Speaker 1: the man of the house, and of course she didn't

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Speaker 1: talk back. She was both obedient and soft by nature.

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Speaker 1: She was a good woman who always made good choices.

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Speaker 2: That ship, we're good Mom's bad choices.

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Speaker 3: You single mom who said fuck the patriarchy, shared all

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Speaker 3: their bad choices.

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Speaker 2: And sound out they were so bad.

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Speaker 3: After all, we're experts, overshares and your new besties.

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Speaker 2: Sit back and enjoy the ride.

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Speaker 4: I can.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to good Mom's bad choices. I'm Nila, and

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Speaker 3: I'm Erica, and it's Wednesday, bitches.

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Speaker 2: Happy motherfucking hot day.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Is that Mace? Is that Eminem? We're welcome back? Is

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Speaker 2: it Eminem? Oh it's Mace. Look at the rats. I know,

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Speaker 2: I know the raps, the raps.

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Speaker 3: I have Mace's CD from Tower Records, right here on

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Speaker 3: Little in Ventura Records.

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Speaker 2: Yes I do. Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: It used to be like an event to go get

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Speaker 3: the new album and right here on the and then

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Speaker 3: you listen like get the little sample.

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Speaker 2: I was devastated when records closed specifically the one in Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: because that was like a real iconic staple on Sunset.

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Speaker 2: I forgot about the one in uh the gallery. Don't

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Speaker 2: the CD stool got my ears pierced there, damn Anyway,

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Speaker 2: you guys, I'm just gonna get into it. Might as well. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we have a special guest today. He is a former

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Speaker 2: guest of the show and a staple in my life.

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Speaker 2: Half of your makings. We have my daddy on the show,

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Speaker 2: my real dad, not like my daddy, my dad dad,

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Speaker 2: football Hall of Famer podcaster Eric Dickerson, Father, Eric Dickerson,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Eric.

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Speaker 2: I think I've never called you that.

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Speaker 5: No, thank you, thank you, thank you for happening.

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Speaker 2: I was listening to our past episode with him, and

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Speaker 2: you introduced him as an All Star All Star Players

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Speaker 2: football player.

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Speaker 3: I got it right this time, I got I said,

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Speaker 3: Hall of Famer football player, right, yeah, okay, because all

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Speaker 3: starts the basketball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay. Welcome back, Dad, back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for coming.

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Speaker 3: I know he's the All Star of those motherfucking ribs.

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Speaker 2: A star. What are you barbecue?

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Speaker 5: I have been barbecued him months, but anytime I.

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Speaker 2: Want, I need that recipe past.

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Speaker 5: One minute, you eat meat in the next thing you.

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Speaker 2: This is her story. She's a flexitarian.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly.

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Speaker 2: You don't know what the balance because I want to

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Speaker 2: live alone. She goes extreme.

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Speaker 3: She'll go from the vegan to pork right exactly.

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Speaker 2: Currently, I'm a vegetarian.

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Speaker 3: No fish, you say, okay, we'll take her portion of ribs.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show, Dad. A lot has happened

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Speaker 2: since then. When the last time we were you were

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Speaker 2: on the show seven years ago. I think the Rams

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Speaker 2: had just come to La. Yeah, and I was a

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Speaker 2: year and a half out of my relationship, which seems

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Speaker 2: crazy because it seems like I've been out of that

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Speaker 2: relationship for twenty years.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like it was seven years ago that

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Speaker 3: you came on the show.

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Speaker 5: But I know. I told Eric, I thought it was

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Speaker 5: four three or four years.

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Speaker 2: It was like very early in the podcast. It was

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Speaker 2: like twenty nineteen, March twenty nineteen or it was in

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Speaker 2: the dining room. Yeah, the dining room. I was in

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Speaker 2: the I was in the interview because leave us alone,

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Speaker 2: and she had headphones on him. I was like holding her.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot of our early episodes, how are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: How's it going today? Dad?

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Speaker 5: This is going good? My dear, you look good. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I'm old, but you're not old. Yeah, I mean I am.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, yeah, in your thirties to me's husband

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Speaker 5: say he's thirty five. My gosh, that's thirty years ago

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Speaker 5: for me. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're old, I want to age like

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Speaker 2: you and my mom, because you and my mom looked

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Speaker 2: pretty fucking good for like you consider old hopefully.

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Speaker 3: You know, you got your jewels on, you got your

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Speaker 5: So you know, like this old man is what it is?

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Speaker 2: As you get older?

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Speaker 3: Do you think you get like do women get more

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Speaker 3: bold or does it die off? Because you know you're

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Speaker 3: you're an older football player. So I just want to

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Speaker 3: know what is like the trajectory of the groupies as

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Speaker 3: you get older, they get tired.

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Speaker 5: Great, great question. You know I'm not a guy that's

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Speaker 5: out there anymore. I mean I used to go to

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Speaker 5: didn't we want to go went to dinner at six

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Speaker 5: at like eight thirty nine o'clock and I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 5: I'm out of here. Like ten thirty, I said, I

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Speaker 5: can't do that no more. And you know, the young girls,

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Speaker 5: they still come up, some of them. I'm just what

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Speaker 5: am I going to do? I don't get your number.

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Speaker 5: I mean they take give me a how to give

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Speaker 5: a girl my eyes? I have no clue. So you

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Speaker 5: know that's just I'm I'm past that stage.

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Speaker 3: At what point did you think you got to this point?

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Speaker 3: Because I feel like a lot of men they really

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Speaker 3: hang on, like obviously you're in a long term relationship,

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Speaker 3: but I'm some of your colleagues who haven't been, who

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Speaker 3: they'll go with they'll go to the to the wheels

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Speaker 3: fall off.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, some some do go to the wheels fall off.

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Speaker 5: I mean I think I got there probably in my

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Speaker 5: was going I mean I wouldn't a heavy drinker, but

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Speaker 5: I didn't do drugs. But the clubs is my thing.

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Speaker 5: Clubs and strip clubs and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: I was doing all that kind of stuff. I won't forget.

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Speaker 5: I think I was in Miami and I was maybe

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Speaker 5: thirty nine or forty years old, and they said, Okay,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna go to We're gonna go to dinner or

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Speaker 5: I'm like, what the hell. I'm like, okay, I said, well,

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Speaker 5: and it was about eleven forty five. I'm like, it's

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Speaker 5: go to no club. I take her say, man, I'm

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Speaker 5: not going. I just I can't do it. That's when

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, it was old for me, and

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Speaker 5: you know, do I miss that life? Not even not

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Speaker 2: I think that. I think that drugs have to be

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Speaker 3: Eleven forty nine or vacation, like, you have to be

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Speaker 5: Not at sixty years old, not in Miami six years old.

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Speaker 5: I'm not you know, some guys, I mean, I got friends.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I just don't understand it. But like I said,

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Speaker 5: that's just that's not my life.

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Speaker 2: They're tired.

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Speaker 5: They look tired. Yeah, but you know they can do that.

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Speaker 5: I can.

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Speaker 2: I see some of your friends. I could. I could

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Speaker 2: see that some of them still be outside in these

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Speaker 5: First of all, I'm gonna take it as much. Here

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Speaker 5: a man who always had that look in his eye.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's just how it worked. He's a man,

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Speaker 5: you know, and that's just that, that's that animal instinct

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Speaker 5: and you might not do nothing, but he gonna look

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Speaker 5: like damn like that. Wow. I mean, it's just it's

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Speaker 2: The other day, we were driving and she came there

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Speaker 2: was like, it's okay. He was like, no, you were looking.

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Speaker 2: I was like, babe, I didn't even bring this up,

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Speaker 5: It was him. Trust I know.

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Speaker 2: I'm on our last episode. You said that eighty percent

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Speaker 2: of men are unfaithful. Is this still a fact?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, most men. I mean, look, you can find

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Speaker 5: you can find a good man. Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's some good men out there that that

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Speaker 5: don't cheat. And I'm not saying I don't. I don't

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Speaker 5: condone that. I'm saying it's right by no means. But men,

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Speaker 5: we are hunters by nature. I mean, and that's just

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Speaker 5: the facts. I mean. You know, you'd like to believe,

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Speaker 5: or like, want your man to be with one woman

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Speaker 5: this whole life, and women shea way smarter than we do.

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Speaker 5: Y'all cheat too, and but y'all smarter. Boy. The man

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Speaker 5: go ahead and you come back with lipstick on his collar,

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Speaker 5: you know, stuff on its pay like damn well, and women,

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Speaker 5: you be screwing the neighbor. And two years later said

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Speaker 5: I'm leaving what I'm leaving the neighbor. What how long

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Speaker 5: that's been going on? I mean, because y'all, y'all calculated

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Speaker 5: That's that's our problem, you know. So yes, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying all men sheat by no means. And

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Speaker 5: like I said, I said, I don't condone it. But

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Speaker 5: you know, the thing is, for a man, it's hard

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Speaker 5: to say, no, it just is. I mean, if you could,

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Speaker 5: you could, you could be a faithful man, really faithful.

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Speaker 2: It's not hard to say, say, I just see.

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Speaker 5: The thing is, you're not you're a woman. You're a woman.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I just don't believe that men don't have

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Speaker 2: any self control. That's that's the myth that men all

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Speaker 2: other men so that they don't have to have it.

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Speaker 5: It's not a myth. It's not a myth. Because I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna tell you something.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I really I know that men are visual creatures,

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Speaker 2: and they supposedly think about sex more than women, and

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Speaker 2: you know, they require a lot less to go into

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Speaker 2: that sort of action than women do. But I also

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Speaker 2: think that there's this narrative that you're saying that I

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Speaker 2: think men pass on to other men. And then they're like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: The boys will be boys, you know. You you can

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Speaker 5: take a little kid, a little boy, say he's six

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Speaker 5: And what I mean saying that, that's like saying every

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Speaker 5: That's not life is I mean, you know who you

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Speaker 5: You got a boyfriend, and you got a boyfriend at home.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's what I'm saying. I know the things

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I want to believe that

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Speaker 5: Have more self you know, some I hope some women

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Speaker 2: There's a I think there's definitely more women than maybe

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Speaker 3: Let's be the male horse female horse. You got to

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Speaker 5: Man can't man really, man can't be a hole, he's

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Speaker 5: just he'd just be horrish.

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Speaker 2: A man can't be a hole.

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Speaker 5: He could be horrish. I mean, okay, let's see.

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Speaker 5: me say this, mis put like this here. Okay, let's

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Speaker 5: He ain't no but a big old hole. You know

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Speaker 5: I would navi date him. Next thing you see? Oh

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Speaker 5: You know I like him? Okay, Now let's take a woman.

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Speaker 5: You see a woman, she good looking? Yeah, man, you

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Speaker 5: know everybody hitting that, I'm gonna hit it, but I

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Speaker 5: I ain't trying to marry her. But somebody would, but

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Speaker 5: And I can say this has happened. When a girl

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Speaker 5: That's what I told her, don't fall in love because

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Speaker 3: I think there's there are women you're right there, like

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Speaker 3: But there's like an essence of a real whore, Like

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Speaker 3: That is like a way in which you carry yourself.

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Speaker 5: You got me. You said it right, because I give

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Speaker 5: pretty nice halfstyle. I say, that's a stripper. I can tell,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 5: it's a stripple, you know, I said, I don't. It's

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Speaker 2: You could take them out the club. But you can

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Speaker 5: You can see. You can tell she had just walked in.

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Speaker 5: But she didn't make nothing.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, she said she had nice hair.

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Speaker 5: It just looks like I want to take my clothes off.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to turn the hole into a housewife.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm be honest with you, and it's just

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Speaker 5: he said, how you doing? She pulls off. I'll never

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Speaker 2: Come on that stuff you like not eighty years old.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just so. I mean, you know, no one,

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Speaker 5: You know, he has he has something he's trying to accomplish,

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Speaker 5: You always fay, you make a good a good family man.

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Speaker 5: Let's just say said, most men that make a whole

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Speaker 5: And like I said again, I'm not saying it's right

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Speaker 5: Men ain't changed this. This has been going on since

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Speaker 5: gonna pick one, all of them. All men won't but

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Speaker 2: And this is why my daddy never had no remorse

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Speaker 2: for me. When I be like, you cheated on me,

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Speaker 2: he'd be like, oh, that's.

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Speaker 5: Should I sayd He be.

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Speaker 2: Like what now, Like okay, well, I'm sorry up.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and you know, you know check it out.

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Speaker 5: You you you you're women. Y'all want that bad boy

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Speaker 5: you do it, and it's be honest. You want that

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Speaker 5: bad boy. You don't want that guy that that's the

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Speaker 5: good old guy that you know, just a good he's

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Speaker 5: not long ago, and I said, how's going. She said, Oh,

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Speaker 5: I just can't take it. I'm like, I'm like, what's

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Speaker 5: wrong with that? I said, you know what, you need

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Speaker 5: a real nigga, don't you. She said yeah. I said see,

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Speaker 5: I said, Now he'll say, oh she's older. That's what

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00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 5: I'm trying to say. Y'all want that, y'all, y'all want

432
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 5: that bad boy and a good boy, a good guy

433
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 5: and one. And I mean, don't get me, it can

434
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,920
Speaker 5: happen like that. But most real males.

435
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 2: What what are you?

436
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 5: I mean? I was I was at Apple, I was

437
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 5: that guy. I used to be that guy, a real nigga.

438
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 2: But write no poetry, write no poetry.

439
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,439
Speaker 5: I ain't got nobody write no poetry, no poetry.

440
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 1: You know what.

441
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,440
Speaker 5: Let me tell you something. I had a rap game

442
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 5: back in the day. You know, I could I could

443
00:19:59,480 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 5: rap back.

444
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 2: You know, we might have to run my dad's rap

445
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,479
Speaker 2: moment at the end of this episode. We may have

446
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 2: to we might have to run that music. But what's

447
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 2: your what's your line?

448
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 5: Like?

449
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 2: Would you say to Rihann like, what's up? Baby? Like

450
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 2: what you're spending over there?

451
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 5: I don't remember? But how you doing? I'm good? I'm like,

452
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 5: what's your name? My name is Ran? I said, my

453
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 5: name is Eric.

454
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, stop, I know I don't want I

455
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: don't need to be here for this. You picked the

456
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 2: smooth boys. He thinks I was already enough at dinner.

457
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 3: You know, this brings us, I think to our bad

458
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 3: choice of the week because I have some questions, because

459
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 3: do you bitches really just want a bad boy?

460
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 2: Can we settle with a good guy?

461
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 4: Like?

462
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 2: Is that our problem? Because I think I don't know.

463
00:20:59,359 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 1: Mom?

464
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 4: But Mom so good?

465
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 2: So should I read this bad choice? To read it?

466
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 2: Do you, daddy? Do you have any bad choices of

467
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: the week?

468
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 5: The weeks? Yes started days two and I ain't got

469
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 5: no bad jo, no bad choice.

470
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let me.

471
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 5: Know I was younger yet I'd be a man bad choices.

472
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,959
Speaker 2: Okay, Dear Erica and Jamila. First of all, thank you.

473
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: I've listened to your podcast and loved you both over

474
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 2: the past few years. Honestly, your episodes bring me joy, validation,

475
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 2: and laughs. I'm a full stay at home mom creating

476
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 2: my own business on the side, so all the joy

477
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: you bring is so needed and appreciated, and I relate

478
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 2: to you both so much. Being the spiritual thirty seven

479
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: year old we'd smoking black mama that I am. I

480
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 2: have two small kids under five and a white man,

481
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 2: so there's that. In fact, my relationship is what led

482
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 2: me to the bad choice of the week. I text

483
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: an X then met up with him the next day.

484
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: Nothing happened physically between us. We just chatted and smoked

485
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 2: together like we always do. We always used to. We

486
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: were always good friends, and it was so nice to

487
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: have that moment again. My life has just become cooking

488
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 2: and cleaning and putting everyone else first for the past

489
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: five years, and I've been feeling so depleted. I feel

490
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 2: so understimulated in my current relationship. I'm such a deep

491
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: thinker and love connecting through conversation. I want to feel

492
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: like my man can teach me something and I just

493
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 2: don't want and I just don't have that with my

494
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: current partner. We haven't had sex in nearly a year

495
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: and a half, and I've been telling him for a

496
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: long time how unhappy I am. I text my ex

497
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 2: because I've missed him as a friend and the deep,

498
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: interesting conversations we used to have. I've just felt so

499
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: done in my current relationship. I had a dumb moment

500
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 2: of impulse that I was aware of and still said

501
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: fuck it. It's feeling more and more like a bad

502
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: choice because since seeing him, I've been reminded of how

503
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 2: seen and sexy I felt with him in my life.

504
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 2: It's like since last week, I've gotten a part of

505
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 2: myself back that feels positive and inspired again. However, that's

506
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: making me want to see him again, and the thought

507
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: of being sexual has crossed my mind.

508
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 5: Now.

509
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: I feel so trapped in my relationship. Financially, he couldn't

510
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: afford to live separate from us and his family are

511
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 2: far away. Plus he said he won't leave living with

512
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 2: his kids. Girl, Sometimes I am to you, buddy right.

513
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 2: In the past, I've suggested we open up the relationship,

514
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: but he won't have it. I'm just feeling like, what

515
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: the fuck did I do? And it was probably a

516
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: bad choice. I don't want to have an affair and

517
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: cheat on him, or would you consider it cheating. Would

518
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: love to hear your thoughts if you get a chance,

519
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: Love you a whole lot, Anonymous.

520
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: You didn't hear this from me, But if you ain't

521
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 3: got no dick in a year and a half and

522
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 3: the dick right laying right next to you, and you

523
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: told the nigger, hey, what's up with that dick?

524
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 5: Right boy?

525
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: Three times five times, you might be well.

526
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: Within your rights to go get that oother dick that's

527
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: on the table. Also to the men, to the men,

528
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: once your woman has a baby, do not just look

529
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: at her as a milk cow and a maid and

530
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 3: a chef, because that's the easiest way for a bitch

531
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 3: to get bored.

532
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: Don't want another niggas here.

533
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 3: She's going to be contemplating doing some other shit because

534
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: women need to feel seen outside of motherhood. So if

535
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: you think she's happy over there and you ain't sucked

536
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 3: on a titty or put it in in a year

537
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 3: and a half, your tripping.

538
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. I mean I can relate

539
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: to this story because when I was in my relationship.

540
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: I felt super unseen and bored and unsexual. It was

541
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 2: my fault though I was not. I didn't want to

542
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: give nothing to him because I was like, nah, no thanks,

543
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: I don't trust you and I'm not into it. And

544
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: I remember, I knew I sought out somebody just like

545
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,479
Speaker 2: her who I knew. I knew I could get easily.

546
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: I knew would be just enthralled just the fact that

547
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: I'm in his presence. And I went and I felt

548
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: good until I didn't feel good. That's another story. I

549
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: recall the story, but I understand like that feeling of

550
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: like excitement after having an experience like that, where you

551
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: go home and you're like, damn, this is not what

552
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 2: I signed up for. So in my opinion, I'm never

553
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: gonna advocate for cheating, but do what feels good to you.

554
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: But if you cheat, it's the beginning of the end. Yeah,

555
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 3: if you cheat, just know it's probably the beginning of

556
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: the end. I don't know how long you can't that

557
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 3: you can't.

558
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: You can't sheat that feeling. You can't undo that feeling

559
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: that you're gonna get and on.

560
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: Board your relationship now that you've peeked out and saw

561
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: that it could be something else.

562
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: You're gonna go home and be fun, or maybe you

563
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: need to threaten him a little bit and tell him

564
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: what happened.

565
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: You're gonna get the bitch beat.

566
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like I've got a little you gotta

567
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: make up a lie.

568
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: Like you saw somebody at a store not your ex,

569
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 3: and they were trying to hit on you, and you

570
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: were like, oh damn, I still got it. Don't say

571
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: you went and had dinner with your ex. Don't listen

572
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: to Erica. Okay, we cannot be liable for that.

573
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: I'm about transparency. Take it to the grave, daddy. What

574
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: what's your what's your advice?

575
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna tell you one thing. A man, especially,

576
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, an alpha male.

577
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: He might be cheating on you already. Sorry, yeah, that's

578
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: what my thought.

579
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 5: He's sexual. I mean, you want you want some of that?

580
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 5: I mean, and if you ain't getting it at home,

581
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 5: not saying every guy you getting it somewhere. I mean.

582
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 5: So I'm not saying I don't know this guy. I mean,

583
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 5: but nine times out of ten, if you ain't having it,

584
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 5: I mean, and most men they'll leave a woman like hey,

585
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 5: I've told a girl before, I ain't got to get showed.

586
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 5: You know what. You can hold it hostage, but I'm

587
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 5: gonna give me some, you know, and they got to

588
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 5: be yours, but I'm gonna give me some. I mean,

589
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 5: so I don't say that, well a woman. Let me

590
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 5: tell you something. When a woman goes and cheats, given

591
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 5: than a man. And I say that for a couple

592
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 5: of reasons, because a woman is a receiver. A woman,

593
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 5: excused my mouth, is laying on her back, lord, but

594
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 5: it is what it is. You can't get around it.

595
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 5: A woman's laying on her back necessarily, all right. She's

596
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 5: on her knees. She's on her knees.

597
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: You could be you could be sitting on top.

598
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 5: Mom standing, you could be on top of you, but

599
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 5: you still you're still getting something inserted in you. And

600
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 5: a man can always he can wipe you off, but

601
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 5: you can never wipe a man out of you. I mean,

602
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 5: that's just that's a fact. I mean. And for a

603
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 5: woman to cheat, like I said, women y'all cheat smarter

604
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 5: than we do. Y'all do it. And when you cheat,

605
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 5: you've thought about it a long time, really thought about it.

606
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 5: Most women a good woman's gonna think about it before

607
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 5: she just goes and goes and acts on that. And

608
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 5: like you said, when you married and you go cheat,

609
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 5: pretty much that relationship is pretty much you know, could

610
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: be as fractured. It's done. Okay, Now you don't cheat

611
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 5: it with this guy. Is this the guy you're gonna

612
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 5: be with? Is that? If he is, he's got to

613
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 5: wipe it home, because man gonna tell you what you

614
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 5: want to hear. Oh baby, I'm so unhappy at home.

615
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 5: You know, I don't have sex at home. I ain't

616
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 5: getting nothing home. And then really he might be fucking

617
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 5: the hell out of his wife, but you don't know that,

618
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 5: you know. So he's gonna he gonna tell you what

619
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 5: you want to hear. That's that's how men operate. That

620
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 5: ain't changed at all. Young men and older men. They

621
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 5: gonna tell you what you want to hear. So, like

622
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 5: I said, when a woman goes and che she has

623
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 5: to make the sure that this is what she wants

624
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 5: to do and what comes along with it. I mean,

625
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 5: because if the man leaves, Now, when you buy yourself,

626
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 5: but vice versa, I mean that goes, that goes for

627
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: man too, That goes both ways because you got a

628
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 5: good woman and she leaves. Now you lost a good woman.

629
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 5: And now I got to go out here and try

630
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: to mess around these holes you're doing to say, you're

631
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 5: doing the same thing.

632
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: Wait, what'd you say?

633
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: What was the story you said before we started about

634
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 3: your friend who you read something and she was born?

635
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I saw. I listened to his own TikTok,

636
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 5: lady said. She said, let me tell you something. I

637
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 5: listen to his damn friends of yours. She said, I'm

638
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 5: gonna tell you I had. She's just just some like this, lady.

639
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 5: I had a husband, good husband, good husband. You know,

640
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 5: we wasn't in love like that no more. You know

641
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: the sex one. You know, it was just all right.

642
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 5: And my friends be going out and having drinks. And

643
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 5: you need to get rid of him, to go and

644
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 5: divorce him. She said, what do my dumb ass do.

645
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 5: I listen to him, I go get divorced. She said,

646
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 5: we were cool. She said, what does he do? Go

647
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 5: buy him a brand new house, got him a nice wife.

648
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 5: He said, you know what's happening to me? He said,

649
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 5: These niggas out there jumping him and down on me.

650
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 5: Now I ain't got nobody, you know, going from bed

651
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 5: to bed. That is that what you want? Because let

652
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 5: me tell you something, when you and your when your

653
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: twenties and maybe your thirties, doing that kind of stuff,

654
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 5: your the early thirties. But now I say you thirty five,

655
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 5: forty years old, forty two, you use goods, you ain't

656
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 5: finna get no good man, You ain't finna get.

657
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: Bad forty two. Damn, I'm mirroring there.

658
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 5: Listen, listen, but listen what I'm saying. I'm not finished.

659
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 5: You've got You've got, you've got two or three kids,

660
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 5: but sometimes two or three daddies. That's the that's the difference.

661
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 5: You think a good you think a good quality man

662
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 5: wants a woman with two or three kids.

663
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: Maybe, just so you know, father, this podcast has a

664
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: lot of moms saying that perhaps that story right now,

665
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: and I think it's Valentine and I'm here to tell you, hey, hey, hey,

666
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: you bitch, listen. Don't listen to him. He don't know.

667
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: Don't listen to him.

668
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: Plenty of bitches five men with two three kids. Plenty

669
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: bitches get married with two three kids.

670
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 5: You know what? I agree with that, Jamila, that's true.

671
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 5: But how rare is that that's a rarity that doesn't

672
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 5: happen every day. I mean, that just doesn't. That's like,

673
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 5: that's like a woman dating a guy with no legs.

674
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 5: It's a rarity that he gets a beautiful white a

675
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 5: woman that that happens.

676
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: I don't think it's as rare as you think. Maybe

677
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: it's just rare to your circle.

678
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 5: No it's not. It's rare to a good quality man,

679
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 5: or a good quality that.

680
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: Same quality man might also have two to three kids.

681
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 5: Okay, now, now that's what I was gonna say. Do

682
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,719
Speaker 5: you think do you think a hot woman.

683
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: You know, like Kevin Samiel's right?

684
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: Now, Hey, I'm just saying what I'm saying. I mean,

685
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 5: you know, you know I'm not you know what I'm

686
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 5: talking from from from from man experience. I'm not talking

687
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 5: about why somebody told me. I'm telling what I know.

688
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 5: I mean, even though a high valued woman woman this

689
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 5: guy got it going on, got her own house, her

690
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 5: own job, making her own money. You know, she she'd

691
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 5: like you. But you got four different four baby mamas.

692
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 5: I'm doing it, thank you. What would you do you like?

693
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm not saying baby mom, I'm saying, like, even okay,

694
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: whether you have, However many.

695
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 5: I'm putting on a man chap. I'm saying, a man,

696
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 5: I'm let me ask your question, would you was you

697
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 5: rather the man with no kids or even one kid,

698
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 5: but posted a man with three? How about that with

699
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 5: no kids? A post a man with three kids. You go,

700
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 5: that's the difference. That's what I'm saying.

701
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

702
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong with a woman having children. I'm not

703
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 5: saying that nothing at all. It's good women out there

704
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 5: with keep don't take this wrong. It's some really good

705
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 5: women out there that have two kids, sometimes three kids.

706
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 5: But men, good quality men, you know, they want that

707
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 5: new product, they want that new one.

708
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: This is I'm not saying that this is not true,

709
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: but I do think that it is true because society

710
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: has built this, this programming that says that if women

711
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: have multiple children and they move up out of a relationship,

712
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: whether we're standing when they were getting that dick, if

713
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: they're on their knees or on their back, they society

714
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: tells us and tells men that women are less valuable

715
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: after they've had kids, whereas men, Hella, men have two

716
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: three kids with two three fucking baby mamas, and they

717
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: marry when they fucking fifty and nobody.

718
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: Wants they washed out bass anymore.

719
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 5: But you don't.

720
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: That's a social construct. I do believe, as there's women

721
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: out there listening, I think a part of it has

722
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: to be your mindset. If you believe that no one's

723
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 3: gonna want you, that's what's gonna happen. But if you speak,

724
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: and if you feel, and if you're confident, and also

725
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: don't wait on these niggas, like if you're not happy,

726
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: that's one thing, but don't don't leave a relationship in

727
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: hopes that you're gonna come get swooped up by Superman,

728
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: like you know, like you, I don't think anybody, man

729
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: or female, should be their whole life's obsession should be

730
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: necessarily partnership. I agree, And I think when you let

731
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: that go and you accept you're the shit with or

732
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: without a nigga or a bitch, with or with the

733
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: two baby daddies or four baby daddies or whatever amount

734
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: of kids you have accumulated. Because life be life, and

735
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: if you know you're valuable, then you'll attract what's valuable.

736
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: But if you think that there's no one out here

737
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: and you're not valuable and you believe the lie and

738
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: you eat the fucking pill, then you're not gonna find nobody.

739
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 5: Oh, I'll say this to you. I'll say this when

740
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 5: I was in my twenties, say, in my twenties playing football,

741
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 5: and I met girls that had kids, and I met

742
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 5: girls who didn't have kids, and I and I'm sure

743
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 5: this has not changed, stealed the girls with the kids nice.

744
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I think a two girl, really nice girl,

745
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 5: would have kids. I knew I wouldn't. That wouldn't going

746
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 5: no well with me. For a fact. The girl they

747
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 5: didn't have a kid, that had a that had a

748
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 5: chance for sure. I mean, it's nothing against the one.

749
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 2: Because this point, did you have a kid?

750
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 5: I had no kids. I didn't have air, he says

751
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 5: to my twin, I didn't have no kids.

752
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: I mean, which is fair if you don't have kids

753
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: and they don't have kids, and you want to experience

754
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: that for the first time with somebody, that's a valid

755
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: that's what I'm not dating.

756
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that this narrative is true because

757
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: I've experienced it on the other I've been on the

758
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: other side of that where a man literally told me

759
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: he's not going to date me because I'm over thirty.

760
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: I think I was like thirty three or something. I'm

761
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: like over thirty one or something, and I have a kid,

762
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: and I couldn't he said it to me. I was like,

763
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I was like, why are you happened?

764
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: But why do you keep going out to dinner with me?

765
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm great, right, I'm grateful that he did

766
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: because you know, he didn't waste my time, you know,

767
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: but nice with a nice white woman. Yeah. Yeah.

768
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 5: But the problem is is that, Okay, let's say I

769
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 5: do date to say I date the girl with the kids.

770
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 5: Say I do date a girl with two kids, and

771
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 5: we together and we have a nice relationship going we

772
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 5: break up, all right, I have no offic and I've

773
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 5: loved those kids. Now my bond with the kid, these

774
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 5: my mama, These my kids. You can't tell me to do

775
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 5: my kids. But I love I don't want you to

776
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 5: see my kids no more. That's something. Then you tell me.

777
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: A fact that all that's all.

778
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 5: That's a fact. All that comes into the factor when

779
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 5: you when you're talking about dating somebody, even a woman

780
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 5: dating a man with a kid, it's the same thing

781
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 5: because women are motherly. They meet a little girl, you

782
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 5: got a little boy, and like, oh, I just love

783
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 5: your little boy live and all of a sudden you

784
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 5: break up with the girl. But she wants to see them.

785
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 5: She wants to see the little boy. Little girl. Now

786
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 5: you got a new girlfriend. I don't want that to

787
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 5: be seeing me. That ain't coming over here, you know.

788
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm still friends with two of your axes

789
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: from childhood. She one I ain't. I don't even know

790
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: if you're talking to them no more.

791
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, which one? Uh?

792
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: The only black woman I've ever saw you date?

793
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 5: Know?

794
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: Two? Well two of actually three only seen your day

795
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: two black women me physically with my own eyes.

796
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 5: I did a lot of women, tell you.

797
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's what I'm saying. But I'm just saying

798
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: the two that I know of, and then your your

799
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: ex fiance. Yeah, those those three, those are three ones

800
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: that I say that Holly.

801
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 5: Holly, I did. I did it, Holly for a long time,

802
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 5: I did it. You didn't know when I did. I

803
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 5: did Monique, I did a girl name run, I mean

804
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 5: I did. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

805
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Monique, Holly and Sarah.

806
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I dated I dated. I did just I had

807
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 5: the spectrum. I mean I didn't. I wouldn't expect I did.

808
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 5: I didn't go look look like, oh she got to

809
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 5: be white, blonde, blue. I mean that I'm not in

810
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 5: I never really into the blonde thing. But you know

811
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 5: when I hit it, Yeah, if you're good looking, I like,

812
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes the dark hair. You know, my my girl,

813
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 5: now she got red hair. I mean I was never

814
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 5: in the red hair. But you know, good person, I'm beautiful.

815
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 5: I mean, so it's not what you might set out

816
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 5: to date an Asian girl and wind up with a

817
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 5: black woman.

818
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: That you may set out to date a woman who

819
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: has no kids. And then I say that all to

820
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: say is that, like, yeah, it is true that like

821
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: those women developed a relationship with me, and it was

822
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 2: heartbreaking for them on the other side of that, not

823
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: being a man in dating a woman with children, but

824
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: as a woman dating a man with children, for them

825
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: to now be like, oh, I guess I can't be

826
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: in this person's life anymore, you know, And so and.

827
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 5: Holly still talks to see how to still talks about.

828
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: You your best friends to this stay, I think to

829
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: like just going back to this question, this this bad

830
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: choice before we move on. I think that, like so often,

831
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: will number to go back to this question and to

832
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: what you said about this TikTok. People getting advice from

833
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: people that are not in relationships that I haven't been

834
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: in relationships that I have never really been in healthy relationships,

835
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: I think is rarely can be dangerous and something that

836
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: I thought about recently too, like asking people for asking

837
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: advice from friends who I haven't seen in healthy relationships,

838
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: or like the other day I needed advice, I was like,

839
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: who do I call? I called my married friend. I

840
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: was like, one who's been married for a long time,

841
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: that is a seasoned parent. I was like, I need

842
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 2: to ask her because she's been through this before. I'm

843
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: not going to ask somebody who like, is new in

844
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: a relationship and and maybe is just in a season

845
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: of finally feeling safe in her relationship. And then secondly,

846
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 2: I think a lot of relationships end because we as

847
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 2: men and women haven't been taught how to communicate. We

848
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: haven't been taught how to really communicate our needs. We

849
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: think that we're communicating our needs, but we're not speaking

850
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: the language of our partner, or we're not putting into

851
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: practice the things we say we're going to change, Like

852
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: we'd be like, oh yeah, yea, yeah, okay, we're gonna try,

853
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna do that, and then we don't. So then

854
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: now we're back washing dishes, we're back feeding the kids,

855
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: and he's back not fucking his girl. You know. Like

856
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: I think that there's like a like a commitment beyond

857
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: just that we're married, like the commitment of like there

858
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: will be seasons where there might be a five year

859
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: stint where like we are not happy, but do we

860
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: need to leave each other or is there space for

861
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: us to figure something like figure it out. But a

862
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: lot of times people don't figure it out because they

863
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: don't have the tools. They don't have the like they

864
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: don't know what to do or what to say. And

865
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 2: so then that relationship is over and now you're out

866
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: in a new relationship and your husband is now buying

867
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: a house for a new wife and is happily married.

868
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean think about it is when you got

869
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 5: you need a certain age. It's like a fifty five

870
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 5: or sixty ye old woman trying to get out there

871
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: and date. It's it's difficult. I mean, you can you can,

872
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 5: you can say what you want to say, because an

873
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 5: older man can get younger women and that's just acceptable.

874
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 5: If you saw you not every older man, but but

875
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 5: a lot of older men can. If you see a

876
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 5: if you see a seventy five year old woman with

877
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 5: a thirty five year old you're like, damn, what that

878
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 5: looks stupid? Look crazy? I mean it really would.

879
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 2: I see a seventy five year old man.

880
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 5: But an older man with a young woman, it might

881
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 5: look crazy, but you know the deal. Now that you

882
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 5: know the deal, I mean, and that's just that's fine.

883
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 5: I mean you might not want to believe it or

884
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 5: say it's right or whatever, but that's just just how

885
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 5: that's how the world is. And it's always been like that.

886
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, men, an older man can get

887
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 5: a younger woman. I mean, and it's not a lot

888
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 5: of You say you got an older man and he's say,

889
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 5: like me, all right, I'm fifteen years old. In penny,

890
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 5: I'm fifteen years old than her. I mean, and I'm

891
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 5: just in good shape as she is. I mean, she's

892
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 5: in great shape. I mean. But now you say you

893
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 5: got a woman that's say sixty five, and she got

894
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 5: a thirty five year old, that's gonna look really odd.

895
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 5: It really. I mean, you can say what you want

896
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 5: to say, but you know, even women gonna say, what

897
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 5: is that old man doing with that young woman? Man

898
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 5: that don't do that young man? Women say it. I mean, so.

899
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: Maybe that young that older woman got some money.

900
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's where it comes down on the other side.

901
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 5: But not always, but a lot most of the time.

902
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 5: That's it. That is it. Women. Women, women, they want

903
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 5: security and a lot of young men don't know how

904
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 5: to treat a woman. First. When a young guy, like

905
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 5: a young and not twenty twenty one year old, let's

906
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 5: go to McDonald let's go to In and Out like what, well,

907
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 5: an older man, let's say you twenty one and you

908
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 5: got a man that's say thirty two years old, and

909
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 5: he said, hey, we're gonna I'm gonna you know, I'm

910
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 5: gonna take you to Hawaii this weekend. What I've never

911
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 5: been to. My god, you know, all of a sudden,

912
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 5: this guy is doing like I've never had this because

913
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 5: he's he knows how I'm gonna take you to Martin's.

914
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 5: I'm not taking you to In and Out. I'm not

915
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 5: taking you to the Steak and Shape. You know, I'm

916
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 5: taking you to to Larcen's. You know, I'm gonna take

917
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 5: you to a place on the beach. That is the

918
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 5: difference between an older man with some class and a

919
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 5: young and it's nothing wrong, but cause you're young. You

920
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 5: know allis was young. I mean I didn't know how

921
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 5: to tip. Ain't no dan, he's supposed to tip people.

922
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 5: I didn't know that. It's just you learn when you

923
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 5: get older. You and women. A woman they like that

924
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 5: by wow, he just oh he makes me feel so safe,

925
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: you know, I just I just love that about him. Well,

926
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 5: you got this this nigger over here. You're talking about

927
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 5: taking me the damn dock in the box, you know, like, oh,

928
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 5: damn jacking the box time I want to go out

929
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 5: to eat the dinner. That's the difference.

930
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: As a young woman who really appreciated all the old

931
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: men that I dated and took me to the more

932
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: insign not to McDonald's. I will say, the old men

933
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 3: really know how to love on you. They really know

934
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: how to talk you up and tell you nice things,

935
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: and they will take you out. But I think in

936
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: this conversation where we're lacking, it's like there may be

937
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 3: a five year sent in your marriage or relationship that's

938
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: boring or you're going through shit and you have to

939
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: pour back into it. But I always ask him these instances,

940
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: like this question, was he boring in the beginning? Like

941
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 3: bitches settle you early, so like if it's not what

942
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: you wanted to be at thirty or twenty five, don't

943
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: wait till you're fifty five to.

944
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: Get up out the motherfucker.

945
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: Like if the nigga's that fucking you, if he wasn't

946
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: fucking you the first year, why did we stay? I

947
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: think this is the more important question, Like it's not

948
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 3: about like people will be bored.

949
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: I always ask.

950
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 3: Even with men, like oh my wife, they'll give me.

951
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 3: This is obviously someone specific. He told me it's recently

952
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: with that, And I was like, well, did she ever

953
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: fuck you? Like he's like yeah at the beginning, But

954
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, so what happened? There was something that happened.

955
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 3: Did you stop fucking her because she became the mother

956
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: of all these children? Like if the nigga never had

957
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: any intellect and never really like aroused your mind, why

958
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: are you surprised now? Of course you are looking the

959
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: other way because.

960
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: You're not being aroused. You settled, don't settle.

961
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: In the beginning, and then ten years from now be like,

962
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: damn should I go, Like, don't waste people's time.

963
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: Well, I think that people too are like like, if

964
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: you're young, when you start dating someone, your interests might

965
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 2: be might have been aligned at that time. Yeah, you

966
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean, and then you evolve as a

967
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: person and you realize that you need other types of

968
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: stimulation Like that also happens. It's like there's so many

969
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: there's so many different layers to why and how.

970
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: I also don't think anyone should get married or really

971
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: be in a relationship before thirty, Like, no one should

972
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: be married or really be a relationship before thirty because

973
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: who the fuck are you before thirty? Like maybe thirty

974
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: five for real?

975
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: For real. Well, my dad always told me he would

976
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: never be married ever my whole life. He said that

977
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: all the time, Like not my thing.

978
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 5: I mean, I just I mean, I'm not saying ever.

979
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 2: Since Judy Tillman broke his heart broke my home seventh grade,

980
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: back when the story Judy was waiting by the phone

981
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: for Judy to call.

982
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: Can we talk about this because this is the thing

983
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: with men. I see this all the time. Men can't

984
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 3: get over the first man can't get over the first heartbreak.

985
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: They can't get over seeing the auntie or the grandma

986
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 3: cheat Like they can't see no, like if you've seen

987
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: ho shit or what you perceive is hoo shit as

988
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: a as a young adult, or you got your heart broken.

989
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: In high school.

990
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: They don't think bitches are hosts forever, Like, don't let

991
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: the bitch in the seventh grade cheat on him. He's like,

992
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: bitches his home since till her fifty. I see this

993
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: all the time. I'm like, my nigga, she was also

994
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 3: in seventh grade. Her hormones were raging, Like, what the fuck.

995
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: Are you talking about? I see this. I just have

996
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: a data guy who's like, yeah, my aunt cheated on

997
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: her man. You don't know what that man did to her.

998
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: Live You're fucking leave your aunt out of this. My

999
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: excell and his daddy is the woman of the night.

1000
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: It's literally, men have this one. This is the problem

1001
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: with the patriarchy.

1002
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: The problem with the patriarchy is they feed you this

1003
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: bullshit about women being hose and laying on their back

1004
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: and you not a hope, but she a hoe and

1005
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: you she can't have kids, but you can have kids

1006
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: and then you see that one thing that you think

1007
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 3: is whole shit when you're in the tenth grade, and

1008
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: you can never recover from it, because to men, the

1009
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: worst thing you can have is a whole. Even though

1010
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 3: they all love hose, it's very confusing. I love the hose,

1011
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: but they won't marry them.

1012
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 5: But you say you love the hose, but you don't

1013
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 5: marry that's if that's it.

1014
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: But then they cheat on their wives with the hose.

1015
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: So it's just it's just this weird cycle.

1016
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 5: But I think, but that don't mean the one you

1017
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 5: cheating as a hoe. I mean because he cheated with you,

1018
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 5: that she might not, she might have done this before.

1019
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 5: I mean, hoe is different to me. The hose is

1020
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 5: you know, a hoe doing something you're paying or you know,

1021
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, I know the difference. I mean,

1022
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 5: I guess I've been out there. Man, I've seen them too.

1023
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 5: I've seen them lot. Trust me and my playing pro

1024
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 5: football doing the things I've done. I mean, I've done

1025
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 5: nothing like I'm really like, oh, I'm a shaming I

1026
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 5: did that? No, I mean, but I know how men think.

1027
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 5: I mean, men don't want they don't want no girl

1028
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 5: that everybody's ran through. I'm sorry women, think if you,

1029
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 5: if you tell it people, I will never forget. I

1030
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 5: want to play. Get this girl, I want to play.

1031
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 5: We're going to we're going through one of the vegas

1032
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 5: some kind of way that the topic came up of sex.

1033
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 5: And she was twenty two years old. We'll never forget this.

1034
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 5: And I don't know how I say. I said, how many?

1035
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 5: How many guys you've been with? I'm just I don't know.

1036
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 5: I don't know how to how we have it? How

1037
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 5: was worded? And she said she was twenty two. She

1038
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 5: said she been able to with forty men. My mind went, funny, man,

1039
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: if I could have had the thing over my head,

1040
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 5: I'm like, fudy, I'm like, that's so at that point,

1041
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 5: I hadn't had funny women. I don't think. I'm like

1042
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 5: if I did, so what I'm like, I swear, I'm like, oh,

1043
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 5: hell no, I can't get rid of this a whole hell.

1044
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what I'm saying. I see girls say

1045
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 5: I've been with one hundred and fifty guys.

1046
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: Got say, what that's the problem? How is relative? Is

1047
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 2: it twenty? Is it one? Who? Like I needed? Where's

1048
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 2: the wizard holekeeper that says your age.

1049
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: There a whole calculator dot com.

1050
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: We might need to make that.

1051
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what man. Men may take. They may

1052
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 5: take the number eight, they may take the number ten,

1053
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 5: guys eight, whatever, but they ain't They're not going to

1054
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 5: go No. Thirty forty fifty. I mean think about that.

1055
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 5: You think about what I just said. You're a woman.

1056
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 5: How about we line up fifty guys outside. You've been

1057
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 5: fifty men and let all fifty of them come in

1058
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 5: at one time.

1059
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 2: That's not reality, reality how it happens.

1060
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 5: But reality is you. You're twenty some years old, you

1061
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 5: have fucked forty men, and you think that all right,

1062
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 5: you walk into a room.

1063
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: Well, I also, okay, this is just like the I

1064
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: have to put on my like you know, like my

1065
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: feminist and protecting a woman.

1066
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 5: How I got you. I'm a man, I'm protect me.

1067
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: Like a lot of times the women that have who

1068
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: are sharing their bodies in this way, it's for like,

1069
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: it's because there's something that's happened. It's not just because

1070
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: they just like fucking. It's there's a dissociation that's happening.

1071
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: There's a numbing that's happening. There's a there's something that

1072
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 2: they're trying to fill, not just their whole, like something else,

1073
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: you know, and and it's it's not it's typically not

1074
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: just black and white, like she woke up and was

1075
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 2: birthed a hoe, you know, like and a lot of times,

1076
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: guess whose fault it was, daddy's a sometimes it is, Yes,

1077
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: it was daddy's fault, and it was a man's fault

1078
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: as to why where she felt unprotected And now this

1079
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: is how she shares herself. So it's not always just oh,

1080
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: she's just a hoe that hole over there, like, No,

1081
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: there's things that have happened, and we have to have

1082
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: more empathy and sympathy for this person. And I do

1083
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: believe that a whole can turn into a housewife.

1084
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 5: I don't They can turn into a housewife. You can

1085
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 5: turn to, but you're not gonna take a real hole

1086
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 5: that's like for like for the streets. And turns out

1087
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 5: she can do that. It can happen. But I'm gonna

1088
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 5: tell you that that stigma is going to follow her

1089
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 5: for the rest of her life. And nobody may know it,

1090
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 5: but the guys who saw her and knew her back then,

1091
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 5: And I could be eighty five years old. Boy, that

1092
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 5: was like my Grandfa said, that was a big old

1093
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 5: hole over there. You know so and so is.

1094
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 3: Now they got cameras and videos. Tell the kids get

1095
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: the fuck off those cameras, these cameras.

1096
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 5: Because when I did stuff, it was no cameras and video.

1097
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 5: You can say, man, you should have been the you

1098
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 5: should have saw it. But now you go back, you

1099
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 5: can pull it up. You know, look at you. That's

1100
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 5: your grandma, man, look at her to this what she

1101
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 5: look at little man, that's your grandma. Man, Look at

1102
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 5: your grandma was fine when she was young. I mean

1103
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 5: that's the problem. All this stuff. You can see it

1104
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 5: now back in the day, you have to just imagine it.

1105
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 5: So hey, like I said me, I'm just a real nigga.

1106
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 5: So still young, but I mean I'm old, but I'm

1107
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 5: still still real nigga. I'm still that same guy.

1108
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: You do have a point.

1109
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: A lot of times, the non present daddies are are

1110
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 3: are breeding women who have abandonment issues and are seeking

1111
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 3: love and validation through their pussy because of lack of

1112
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: guidance because they don't have they don't know, they don't

1113
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 3: have the tools. They're just filling a void because they're

1114
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: wanting something emotional to be filled, but they're filling it

1115
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: with physicality. And as a father of two daughters, one

1116
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: of which, did you feel like you've experienced that at

1117
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: all in high school because of that that beginning rough

1118
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: patch with your father's relationship. Do you feel like in

1119
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: that in your high school or college years that you

1120
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 3: found validation?

1121
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 2: And of course I've talked about it. I've talked about

1122
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: my promiscuity and my I had sex early, like I,

1123
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: I lost my virginity when I was thirteen.

1124
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 3: Did you think that that like, I mean, I understand too,

1125
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: because me too. But did you feel like that was

1126
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: replacing something or like filling that void like that male

1127
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 3: that male attention you know always.

1128
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: Like I don't. I don't think that I realized then,

1129
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: but now as an adult looking back on that, Yes,

1130
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: that's why I said. That's why I'm saying I have

1131
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: to put that hat on because as someone whose father

1132
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: wasn't around much when I was a child, and I

1133
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: didn't have male guidance. Besides, the male that was in

1134
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: my household didn't take on that role of father with me.

1135
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't know anything about men. I just

1136
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: knew that men paid attention to me, or boys paid

1137
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: attention to me. I always got attention from boys. I

1138
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do with that. There was no

1139
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: one saying like, don't do that. And I was like, well,

1140
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: I'm not this. This feeling is unfamiliar and it feels good.

1141
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go. I'm gonna lead. I'm gonna

1142
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 2: go with that. And I remember I remember in high

1143
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: school someone calling me a hope and I've been like

1144
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 2: and being like, oh shit, am I hope? Really? Huh?

1145
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: I mean obviously, like these are things that boys say

1146
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: to girls, no matter what you can with one guy.

1147
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: Everybody know what I mean. But we know as women,

1148
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: as young girls, we know what that word does to us.

1149
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: We know what that means to us, especially at that

1150
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: age when our reputation is just beginning and we feel like,

1151
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 2: oh my god, I can I delete my wholes? Like

1152
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: oh shit, Like I actually I didn't know that was

1153
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: your friend from the you know, the high school down

1154
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: the way, you know, And now I'm a hoe because

1155
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 2: I slept at you and I slept at you, and

1156
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm a hoe now, you know. And

1157
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: you know I think that I've had to have a

1158
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: journey of like how I experience men in my life.

1159
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 2: And it didn't just end in high school like it

1160
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: ended in probably when we began this show and we

1161
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: started talking about our dating life, and we were very

1162
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: open about having casual sex and dating and being like

1163
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: I don't like kind of being like a nigga, Like

1164
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: I don't really give a fuck about that man. I'm

1165
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: about to go have fun and whatever, Like I'm dating

1166
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: five people at one time, and whoever is gonna be

1167
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: the man that's for me is gonna be the man

1168
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 2: for me. But I've had to come into my own

1169
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 2: realization and my own self respect around how I share

1170
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: my body. Now do I like? Have people called me

1171
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: a hoe for talking? I've been called a hole in

1172
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: so many different ways talking about sex on the internet.

1173
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 2: I've been did not people have stopped dating me because

1174
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: of how I talk about my sex life on the internet.

1175
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: So that's why I think that word is relative. And

1176
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: as your daughter as someone who has been called that,

1177
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: and I don't identify as necessarily like, I don't. I

1178
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: don't take on that energy because I don't. I don't

1179
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: view hoe as like I know that there's like levels

1180
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: levels to.

1181
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 5: This, ship, levels to this I'm saying levels, But I.

1182
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: Think that like a lot oftentimes women that are experiencing

1183
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: exploring their freedom and their and their sexuality in similar

1184
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: ways that men do. Oftentimes, Yeah, we're labeled a hoe

1185
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: and we're trying to figure it out, just like y'all

1186
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 2: are trying to figure it out. And we're not given

1187
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: the same amount of grades, so we're not given him

1188
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 2: out of that forgiveness and we have now we wear

1189
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: this hoe jacket no matter where we go. You know,

1190
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: that nigga from fifty years ago is on the porch

1191
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: and he's calling me a hoe when I've probably like

1192
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: a haven't slept with anybody in thirty years or maybe

1193
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 2: been married for forty years, but somehow that has still

1194
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: is still carrying on with me because this person knew

1195
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: me in high school and I slept with a few

1196
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: of his homies. You know. Like, I just think that

1197
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: it's we have to give each other more grace and forgiveness.

1198
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: And like Dad, I know you come from a certain

1199
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: time I do, and you know you feel how you

1200
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 2: feel and that's and that's fair. I just think that, Yeah,

1201
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 2: like as some as as a now as a mother

1202
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: who is who has a daughter, and I think about,

1203
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: you know, irie she's turning eleven and entering into this

1204
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 2: space of starting to like boys and her friends starting

1205
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: to like boys, and just like you know, again like

1206
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: not wanting to repeat history because you know, I am

1207
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 2: a single mom in some capacity, and her dad is aroundish,

1208
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: you know, more so than I would say maybe you

1209
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: were at that age for me. But I don't know

1210
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: the type of conversations that he's having with her about boys,

1211
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: probably none at all. I don't know what kind of

1212
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: like how she views him and how that's going to

1213
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: uh like reflect how what kind of boys or men

1214
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 2: that she chooses. I know, for me, I've historically chosen

1215
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: men that are very alpha like you, that are very

1216
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: like that people have high regard for, that kind of

1217
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: like people are scared of sometimes, you know, like I

1218
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: generally like the man who I'm talking about essentially not

1219
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: all the time, but yes, yes, and and that has

1220
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 2: not served me well.

1221
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 3: If you were gonna give a young lady advice who's

1222
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: listening right now, who may be at the beginning of

1223
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 3: the twenties journey, the beginning of the whole journey, because

1224
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: it's usually starts around sixteen if for me or like,

1225
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 3: and you know, it took us all these years to

1226
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 3: talk literally out loud in public and to each other

1227
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: to kind of come to the conclusion that, you know,

1228
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 3: like we've gone extreme, like been mannished and said, fuck y'all,

1229
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do what you do and I'm gonna do that,

1230
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: and like we've come to this other you know, like.

1231
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: Would we say hope first, heal later, heal first, hold later.

1232
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 3: That's our motto, heal first, hold later, whereas we hold

1233
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: first and we healed later. But what advice would you

1234
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 3: give to a young woman who's maybe listening, who maybe

1235
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 3: doesn't have her father in her life or has that

1236
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 3: attention and maybe hasn't equated that that yet to avoid

1237
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 3: ten years of hotem?

1238
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 5: Me?

1239
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, what advice would I give to a young woman

1240
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: who who doesn't have a father in her life and

1241
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: needs to avoid the hotem yeah.

1242
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: Or maybe or hasn't gone through the full journey yet.

1243
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: Like if you could give advice that wouldn't have to

1244
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: take two elves to fifteen years to get to the

1245
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 3: point where we've figured out that we should have healed

1246
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: first and hold later and probably not hold first and

1247
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 3: healed later.

1248
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 2: What would you say? You don't you know why I can't.

1249
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: I could give advice, but I also know that girls

1250
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: that age don't fucking listen, you know, Like I could.

1251
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 6: Say, like love yourself, like maybe if you can go

1252
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 6: see the college counselor you know, like or just like

1253
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 6: look at yourself and your body and masturbate for you.

1254
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 6: Like I can say all those things, and you should

1255
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 6: maybe do those things. But ultimately, like you know, maybe

1256
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 6: this conversation is helpful, but ultimately, like they're gonna your

1257
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 6: girls that age, there was nothing, absolutely nothing that you

1258
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 6: could have told me.

1259
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: I thought I was grown at sixteen. Yeah, And I

1260
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: know I know you felt the same way too. Yeah.

1261
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: And I was just talking to my dad about my

1262
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: sister and saying, like, when you're at a certain age,

1263
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: like there's really like there's a I feel like there

1264
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 2: comes a time in every young woman's life where she

1265
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: rebels against her parents, and sometimes it happens later and

1266
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: sometimes it happens earlier. For me, it was my teens,

1267
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: Like I was like, you can't tell me shit, mom,

1268
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you no. And that went on for a while,

1269
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: you know, so like I could sit here and put

1270
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: my aunts he had on, but ultimately, like you're you

1271
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: have to figure your shit out. You have to figure

1272
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: it out. And ultimately, like sometimes it might take that

1273
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: boy calling you a hoe for you to be like,

1274
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: oh shit, wait what am I doing? Hold on? But

1275
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: what does it din't feel good? You know, you have

1276
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: to know what feels good to you? Does it feel

1277
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,439
Speaker 2: good to you? Do you feel good after you leave?

1278
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: Do you feel good after you've had that that interaction?

1279
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: Because I know for me, when I was younger and

1280
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: I was exploring sex and stuff, like generally I didn't.

1281
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: I didn't feel good afterwards. I felt sad because he

1282
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: didn't call me, or like he didn't text me enough,

1283
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: or like now he's flirting with my friend, you know,

1284
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: and so you know, so like go with how you feel.

1285
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: If it doesn't feel good, then fucking stop. How about that?

1286
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 2: Because I didn't all the time. I was like, all right,

1287
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 2: well let me try again, like actually love me like

1288
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: me please? Well that's it. I think that's that's what

1289
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: a lot of us do.

1290
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, what we've kind of programmed to do

1291
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 3: is like convince convince someone to love me, or like

1292
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: maybe like there's a level of like I'm going to

1293
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 3: make you see my worth versus having the worth and

1294
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: saying fuck that. You know that didn't feel good, But

1295
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you're absolutely right, because probably nobody could

1296
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: have told me shit.

1297
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure many people try to tell me shit and

1298
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: I was like fuck you.

1299
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 3: So it is like a trial and error that you

1300
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: have to go through on your own. I do feel

1301
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,919
Speaker 3: like this younger generation is like more deep, and they're

1302
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 3: more like I'm want to breathe and stuff effect, and

1303
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: then I'm a masturbate because I know those words from

1304
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 3: the Internet.

1305
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: So like maybe we're just we're just in the we

1306
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: have a lot more information. Yeah, we didn't have We

1307
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: didn't we had our friends giving us advice. Horrible, we

1308
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: had fourteen year olds telling us advice.

1309
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 3: I was I was reading the coldest winter ever and

1310
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: wanting to do home shit.

1311
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: Now I can look out a carousel and be like, oh, yeah,

1312
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: that's smart. I shouldn't do that. Yep, Nope, we shouldn't

1313
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 2: do that. I can look at a TikTok and be like,

1314
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: oh damn, that's a horror story. I really don't want

1315
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: to do that. Whereas before, like you didn't. We didn't

1316
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: have those. So I think luckily like our kids and

1317
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: the kids you know younger than them have it's like

1318
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: a double edged sword. It's like they have two much information,

1319
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: but then they have a lot of information where they

1320
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: can actually decide and what they want in a more

1321
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 2: clear way when it comes to that. So, yeah, that's

1322
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 2: my advice.

1323
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 5: Okay, well I'll say this much here. You're right, I

1324
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 5: was not around a lot because of me and your

1325
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 5: mother's just me and your mother's situation, and that was

1326
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 5: a lot of it was for me on me, you know,

1327
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 5: just my immaturity as a as a young man, an athlete,

1328
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 5: you know, doing that, and you know I didn't I

1329
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 5: didn't see the responsibility factor. And then I won't forget

1330
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,959
Speaker 5: my mother. Byola, your grandmother told me, she said, she said,

1331
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 5: that's not that baby's fault. I said, that's you and

1332
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 5: man's fault. She didn't ask to be here, you know,

1333
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 5: but you couldn't tell me that. I mean, and I've

1334
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 5: told young guys just before. I said, man, look, I

1335
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 5: know you you hate the mom and all that kind

1336
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 5: of stuff, but it'll come a time where you regret

1337
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 5: not spending time with your daughter. I said, oh, your son,

1338
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 5: I said, it just it just happens. I say, all

1339
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 5: of a sudden, it's if you if you're a real

1340
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 5: human being and want to be a good person, I say,

1341
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 5: you will have a lot of regrets. And I have

1342
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 5: a lot. I have a lot of regrets with that,

1343
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 5: but I have you know, I can't. I can't do

1344
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 5: it over and don't do over us. I like to

1345
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 5: do is apologize for for me not being there at

1346
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 5: those in those in those crucial times. And yeah, you

1347
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 5: you did need a dad, you did need a role model.

1348
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 5: And I think a lot of these girls they don't

1349
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 5: have that, but some of them, you know, some of

1350
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 5: them do have that, and they still do do the

1351
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 5: things they do. It's like it's like the preacher's daughter,

1352
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 5: the preacher's son. You know, they usually the wildest ones.

1353
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: That's because they're repressed, but still they got a moment

1354
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 2: that they still got a mom and dad.

1355
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 5: So you can use that excuse. They can use that excuse.

1356
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 5: I well, you know, I'm impressed or you know, my

1357
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 5: dad held me back, you know, but it is what

1358
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 5: it is. But I still say the same thing. You know,

1359
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 5: as a as a woman, you know your your body

1360
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 5: has value to a man. You want a woman that

1361
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 5: that hasn't been used up. I mean, look, when you're young,

1362
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 5: we do a lot of things, all of us, you know,

1363
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 5: and I'm not you know, women being I mean I

1364
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 5: get it, but you can't keep doing the same thing

1365
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 5: when you get twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine the

1366
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 5: level of responsibility. But you still have women doing that,

1367
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 5: especially today, because you see it on the internet. I

1368
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 5: mean things they probably did it back then, but we

1369
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 5: didn't see it. You know, you see it. It's certain

1370
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 5: things you can't unsee. It's things that I'm sure some

1371
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 5: girls have done on these podcast on these on these

1372
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 5: Twitter and all that kind of stuff that now they

1373
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 5: have kids and they're like, wow, I wish I wouldn't

1374
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 5: have did that. I wish I want to post it

1375
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 5: myself doing that because my kids, my kids friends see that.

1376
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 5: You know, little boys see that, other little girls see that,

1377
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 5: other parents see that. And like, you're not trying to

1378
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 5: get admission from anyone else, but you got to feel

1379
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 5: good about something you do. And that's what it comes

1380
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 5: down to. Do I feel good about myself. I mean,

1381
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 5: it's I can tell you from even the man, you know,

1382
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 5: we do stuff you sleep with a girl like, man,

1383
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 5: what the hell was I doing that for my I mean,

1384
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 5: just we have regrets too, but we're men. I mean,

1385
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 5: and I'll say it again, I mean, I mean to

1386
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 5: be disrespectful. We can wipe y'all off. You can't wipe

1387
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 5: us off.

1388
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:05,479
Speaker 2: You can't.

1389
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,959
Speaker 5: I mean, I've seen It's funny because we were talking

1390
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 5: about now then I saw it. I saw it on

1391
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 5: the internet where you can have a guy that's just

1392
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 5: dated a girl, say dated, she dated a couple of

1393
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 5: guys and it was one guy she she was within

1394
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 5: ten years. She was that number ten years and she

1395
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 5: but she married Tom over here. But damn, that baby

1396
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 5: looked just like Bill, you know, even though it's his baby,

1397
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 5: but she looked just like him because his DNA is

1398
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 5: still in her. That that's that's one of the things.

1399
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 5: I mean. So you have to think about all that

1400
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 5: kind of stuff, and I know that's that's deep. But

1401
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 5: you a young kid, a young girl, a young boy,

1402
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 5: you're not thinking about all that kind of that's not

1403
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 5: stuff you're thinking about the moment. Man, Man, I want

1404
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 5: to do this. I want to get a girl like,

1405
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 5: oh yes, I'm liking this here you know, he's paying

1406
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 5: me some attention. That's what you want. But you know,

1407
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 5: like I always say, you know, things have consequences. They do.

1408
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 5: They have consequences for all of us men too, me.

1409
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 5: You know, any you used to do certain things you

1410
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 5: has a consequence. It's like it's like grabbing a woman

1411
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 5: on the ass. You grab on the ass, you slap

1412
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 5: in the face. What you think gonna happen, you know,

1413
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 5: or she put us up choice, but you think it's

1414
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 5: gonna happen. Those are the kind of things you have

1415
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 5: to It's consequences. But you know, and I'm always saying

1416
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 5: this here, I love women. I think there's nothing more

1417
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 5: beautiful than a woman, a good especially a good looking woman.

1418
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 5: You know, I ain't gonna lie. I'm there's still life,

1419
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 5: still got good looking women. None more beauty than a

1420
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 5: woman's body. I mean, I think it's just it's the

1421
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 5: most fabulous thing ever. And her virtue of being an

1422
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 5: effeminine woman, not a woman that's talking about I'm a

1423
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 5: boss bitch man, a bitch booby by yourself. You know,

1424
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 5: give me a woman, Give me a woman, you know,

1425
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 5: a real woman that that that wants to help and

1426
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 5: be you know, be with her man and do do

1427
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 5: right by her man and vice versa. Don't get me wrong.

1428
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 5: Like I said, I say this to both of y'all, man, men,

1429
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 5: it's not it's not that we the men that cheat.

1430
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 5: It's not that we go out planning that she. Some

1431
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 5: guys do. But good man, you're not. Man. I'm go

1432
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 5: winding up and get me something tonight. I can't know.

1433
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's just like talking on this bitch. I got

1434
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 5: a good room at home, and you know it. You know,

1435
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 5: you know you love everything about your woman, but you

1436
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 5: still go get up and like I say, at that moment,

1437
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 5: he knew he fucked up, and it happens.

1438
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well thank you for sharing that.

1439
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 5: Dad. You're welcome. You know. I love you more than anything.

1440
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 2: I love you.

1441
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 5: I love you, I love you.

1442
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: I love you too. And I'm proud of you person.

1443
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: And I'm proud of our relationship. I'm proud of how

1444
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: far we've come in our relationship. And and I forgiven you.

1445
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 2: I forgave you a long time ago. You know, I

1446
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: talked about this on our last episode when you came

1447
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: and you know, you shared with me like you fucked up.

1448
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 5: I did.

1449
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: I mean and and and but but that was just

1450
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 2: the beginning. And it's taken time, and it's taken years

1451
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 2: for that too, for me to accept that, believe that

1452
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 2: and release it, you know, and some of that has

1453
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 2: been like through us. I mean, like two years ago,

1454
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 2: Sylvia shout out to Sylvia Costa Rica. She told me

1455
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 2: that I needed to tell my dad to my dad

1456
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: needed to take me on a trip and plan the

1457
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: whole thing, and then I needed to be his like

1458
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 2: like his his little girl, Like he needed to click

1459
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 2: the location, he needed to like set up the dinners,

1460
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: he needed to set up the activities, and I just

1461
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: show up. And so I remember I called my dad

1462
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 2: about this and I was like so nervous to ask

1463
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: him and be like, Dad, so the switch and told

1464
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 2: me that I need to be your little baby and

1465
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: you need to like set up this this weekend for us,

1466
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 2: and like you didn't hesitate at all. You were like, okay,

1467
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 2: no problem, and we did it. And I remember feeling

1468
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 2: really nervous to do it, even though like, of course

1469
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: we've spent time together, but we hadn't like spent a

1470
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: week and alone together in a long time like that.

1471
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: And I was going to say we should do that

1472
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 2: against him.

1473
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 5: Yea, the same thing, we do it again.

1474
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I appreciate the effort that you've made in

1475
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: wanting to mend and repair our relationship because it is

1476
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: it is important. It is important for a woman and

1477
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 2: a young woman to have a relationship with her father,

1478
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: especially if he especially if he's open and willing, and

1479
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: it's not always going to be perfect and it's not perfect,

1480
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 2: and that's okay, and you know, but it's been extremely

1481
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: healing for me because there were because when I was

1482
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 2: a teenager, I was having a hard time. I was

1483
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: having a hard time with boys, I was having a

1484
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: hard time with men, and I was alone in it,

1485
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: and I was hiding a lot, hiding from my mom

1486
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: because I was embarrassed and ashamed and like she couldn't

1487
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 2: even fathom that I was having sex, you know, And

1488
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: I was seeking advice from my peers, and I was

1489
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 2: looking to I can't even say like media because now

1490
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: it's like I feel like it's it's so different now

1491
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 2: because there is there's definitely like an in some cases,

1492
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: like I don't want to say an agenda, but like

1493
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 2: there is like we've women who have felt unempowered, have

1494
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 2: taken their power back by championing ho shit in ways

1495
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: and championing because that is like the only way that

1496
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,440
Speaker 2: they could take that power back. And it's been beneficial

1497
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: in ways, but it's also been very harmful in ways,

1498
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 2: especially for women that like don't have any way out

1499
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 2: of like finding the positive in it, and now it's

1500
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 2: just a dark hole of like negativity. I'm gonna get

1501
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 2: that niggas money. Fuck these niggas, Fuck all of them.

1502
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get as many as I can, you know.

1503
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 2: And it's like, but you're actually doing harm to yourself.

1504
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 2: But I'm grateful that you've always been a place where

1505
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 2: I can come to you and talk to you about

1506
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,799
Speaker 2: anything like I've I've I've shared more with you probably

1507
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: than I have with my mom at times, because you're

1508
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 2: not judgmental. And I know if you go back and

1509
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 2: tell her because now I'm now I'm a parent, Now

1510
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm a parent, and I'm like, if I read told

1511
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: me some crazy shit, would I told her dad? I'm like,

1512
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe maybe not if you can handle it.

1513
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: But that has been really important to me. And also,

1514
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 2: like the relationship that you and my mom have has

1515
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: been really important to me because I never thought that

1516
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: I would see the day that you and my mom

1517
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: would be friends. My dad came to Thanksgiving this this year,

1518
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: to my mom's house by himself, just to come hang

1519
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 2: out with us, and that is like, I'm little Erica

1520
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 2: could have never fucking imagined that ever. And so like

1521
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: for the women that are listening that are in like

1522
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 2: really difficult challenging co parenting relationships or relationships with having

1523
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: a really challenging relationships with their father, like there is hope,

1524
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: there is space for that, and sometimes you won't get that.

1525
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just not possible. But I appreci She hate you, duddy,

1526
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 2: and I love you so much, and I think that

1527
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: you are a great father, even though I know sometimes

1528
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 2: you feel like you're are right.

1529
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 5: I do the best I can like that, but yeah.

1530
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: But you're the you are the best father for me.

1531
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: Like I chose you, You chose me, and I wouldn't want

1532
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 2: any other day.

1533
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 5: Well, thanks deal. I feel the same way. I mean,

1534
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 5: you know, one thing is glad. I'm glad that me

1535
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 5: and your mother had a relationship now because I can

1536
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 5: tell you it was bad. And I tell guys this

1537
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 5: all the time. I said, man, I'm saying, I'm just

1538
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 5: gonna be honest with you. I hate it, hated hated well.

1539
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 2: You in the plast podcast because I went to listen

1540
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 2: to it today. You said you had an unnatural hatred

1541
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: for my mother.

1542
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 5: I did, and you know, thinking about it, Eric, when

1543
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 5: you get older, I feel bad about that now. I

1544
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 5: really do. It's almost embarrassing to say it, because I

1545
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 5: Rihan was you know, she wasn't perfect, but you know,

1546
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 5: she was trying to be the best mom that she

1547
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 5: could be. And I understand that now. And a lot

1548
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 5: of times women do that. You know, they last shout

1549
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 5: at the man because they angry at the man because

1550
01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 5: you know, they left or whatever they want to be

1551
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 5: with them. And man, it was just I was young.

1552
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: You know, why do you think you had such this

1553
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 2: unnatural hate? Like what is it? Where was it rooted in?

1554
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: Because you decided to leave? And like, what was it?

1555
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 2: The lack of contry? Like was it that she was

1556
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: demanding things of you?

1557
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 5: In some parts yes and in some parts no. It

1558
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 5: was just it was you cannot explain being immature me

1559
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 5: And we're immature. We're immature beings, don't We don't see

1560
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 5: things the way women see, things were selfish. Men are

1561
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 5: very selfish's about us, especially when you're young or young.

1562
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 5: And I was country being in California, and if I

1563
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 5: forget my mother told me when I came out there,

1564
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 5: don't go out there and get one of them girls

1565
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 5: pregnant out there. And I'm like, oh, not going, that's

1566
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 5: what I did. What did I do? She said, don't do?

1567
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 5: And I can't put I can't put my finger on

1568
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 5: and just say this is the reason. But it was

1569
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 5: just a plethora of things. And you know, I was

1570
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 5: going to court all the time, suing me, and I mean,

1571
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 5: and I'm just it just made it almost goes back

1572
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 5: to the Judy Tillman thing where here we go where

1573
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 5: a girl is aft, you know, done me wrong, and

1574
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 5: I just cannot get over it. And you know, and

1575
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I gotta say for myself, you know,

1576
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 5: I'm glad I'm putting that that person. But when I

1577
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 5: didn't like you, I hated you, I wouldn't let it go.

1578
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 5: If I had a chance to get you back, I'm

1579
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 5: gonna get that motherfucker. That's what I'm gonna get your

1580
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get your ass back. I promise you might

1581
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 5: not nothing, but I'm gonna get your ass. And I'm

1582
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 5: glad that I never did get your mama back like

1583
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 5: that because it's not fair to you. I won't forget.

1584
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 5: I talked to my one of my my buddies about you,

1585
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 5: about your mom one day and he said, Eric, Man,

1586
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 5: he said, man, you can't hate that girl mama like

1587
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 5: they said that, that's just that, that's that baby's mama. Eric.

1588
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 5: And you were a little bit, you were a little

1589
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 5: bit of child mom. I said, man, I said that,

1590
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 5: he said, Eric. He said, man, one day you will

1591
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 5: see it. That's my boy bird he passed away. But yeah,

1592
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 5: I mean, and he was. He was right, he was,

1593
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 5: he was so right. So like I said, here we

1594
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 5: are thirty some years later, but you know, it is

1595
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 5: what it's like. I told me that when I was

1596
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 5: at the house, and we still laugh about it. And

1597
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 5: your mom we say, I won't forget. She said one

1598
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 5: day she said, one day, you mean you might be friends.

1599
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 5: I say, hell will be on freezeget. I told her

1600
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 5: that before we ever friends. And it's funny. I enjoy

1601
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 5: talking to your mom. You know, it'll be laughing talk.

1602
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 5: That's why I try to tell younger guys, just give

1603
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 5: it time. Sometimes, just give it time. I mean, it

1604
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 5: might be bad right now, but that is the mother

1605
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 5: of your daughter, your son, and she's trying to be

1606
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 5: a good mom in spite of sometime us our foolishness.

1607
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 5: And I got to say my foolishness, you know, and

1608
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 5: you got And that's the thing about me. I'll loan

1609
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 5: up to what I do. If I say something that

1610
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 5: I think is wrong, but I've done something wrong, I

1611
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 5: don't know the problem saying it. I mean I think

1612
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 5: I was wrong. I was most definitely wrong in that situation.

1613
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

1614
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 3: I appreciate you both, you know, being vulnerable about your relationship.

1615
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 3: I mean seven years ago now, I know that it

1616
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 3: can be a sore spot. But I think this conversation

1617
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 3: other women need to hear it. May they may not

1618
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 3: ever get that apology or that understanding from their fathers

1619
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,520
Speaker 3: that maybe weren't there, but this, really, this, this conversation

1620
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 3: can be so deeply healing for people listening, and like

1621
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 3: also just you being vulnerable and keeping it real like

1622
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 3: I was immature and I didn't know better and apologizing

1623
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 3: and taking accountability. And sometimes it's not some deep shit

1624
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 3: it's just like I didn't know better.

1625
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 5: And that's batter. I called you, I say, Eric, I said,

1626
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 5: give me your mom's phone number. You said, what you want.

1627
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 5: I want to talk to your mom about something. I'll

1628
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 5: never forget it. I called your mother, I said, I

1629
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 5: say in this error she said here was I can

1630
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 5: tell you she was nervous because you know I called. I'm

1631
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 5: calling the car the tailouts, I said, I said, it's Eric.

1632
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 5: She said, what's up? Eric? I said, I want to

1633
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 5: talk to you about something, I said. She said, okay,

1634
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 5: what I said, I want to say this to you.

1635
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 5: I said, First of all, I want to say thank

1636
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 5: you for being a good mother to Erica. And I said,

1637
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 5: I want to apologize for the stuff that I've done.

1638
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 5: I said, so I just want to pol say that

1639
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 5: just because you're a good mom. I said, I just

1640
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 5: want to say I'm sorry. And she said, Eric, I

1641
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 5: cannot believe you. I said, I told her me either.

1642
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 5: We laughed about it. So you know that's that's how

1643
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 5: that's that was. That was a change in me. That's

1644
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 5: when I knew I changed. I mean, I just knew.

1645
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 5: I said, I feel different about her mother. I mean,

1646
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 5: I don't wish your mother no ill will. I wish

1647
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 5: the best for my mother. She's done things for me.

1648
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 5: I've done things for her and things that you could

1649
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 5: never say I would. I would never do that. But

1650
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 5: you know, like think going to Thanksgiving, man, I told you,

1651
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 5: I told her I had such a good time. I

1652
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 5: had a great I had a great time over there.

1653
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: I had dinner with my parents for the first time

1654
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 2: this year, for actually the first time having dinner with

1655
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 2: them ever in my whole fucking life, I've never had

1656
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: dinner with my mom and dad and it was for

1657
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 2: my birthday. And uh, And what I realized at that dinner, though,

1658
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 2: was y'all needed to go to dinner. I was just

1659
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: kind of sitting there. They were talking tho whole I

1660
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: was just like and then at times I was like, Okay,

1661
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 2: this is a lot of information. I don't need to

1662
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 2: know all of this. But I am grateful that I

1663
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: can even scream at whatever you guys are sharing, because

1664
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 2: I never thought that I would be able to experience that,

1665
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 2: like literally, that was not even on my Bingo card

1666
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 2: of life ever, I had already written that off. I

1667
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 2: was more so just hoping to have a relationship with you.

1668
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 2: I was not even thinking about mending a relationship with

1669
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: my mom and my dad. And I think it's really

1670
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 2: important too that I'm grateful for it because I'm I

1671
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot of healing that I don't

1672
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: even think Iri is Iri is even aware of, you know,

1673
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 2: like she gets to see that too, and it's normal

1674
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: for her. She doesn't even know anything different, you know.

1675
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: And and I think, and I think that even like

1676
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 2: in our last episode, like my relationship with her father

1677
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 2: has evolved a lot.

1678
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 5: Time.

1679
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 2: It is what it is, but but there's respect and

1680
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 2: there's just like, you know, acceptance. I think more so

1681
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 2: if there's just an acceptance, he's still guess, oh my

1682
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 2: goddamn nerves, but there's an acceptance. And the other day

1683
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: I told him, I was like, I love you, I

1684
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: love you. I want the best for you. I hope

1685
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: the best for you.

1686
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 5: He'll get more mature as time goes on. Maturity comes

1687
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 5: with age for a man to we're so immature, Like

1688
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 5: I won't forget when people used to say women mature

1689
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 5: faster than me. And I'm like, that's a lie. I mean,

1690
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 5: you know, because I mean, come on, women on me,

1691
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 5: but for real, they do y'all are so much more

1692
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 5: mature and adult like than me and are We're both

1693
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 5: sometimes we're boys? Do we thirty five forty years old?

1694
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 5: Really we like little kids. And and I's why I say,

1695
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 5: I said, just give you some time. I say, Freddy,

1696
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 5: he'd be like like me, like, damn, what was that?

1697
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 5: That was just dumb? You know that, that's what it is.

1698
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 2: Hear that, Freddy, make that clicking? Don't do that? Well?

1699
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 3: Do you have an affirmation for us today?

1700
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 5: And like things that I think living about, I live

1701
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 5: my life by well. My dad had a saying. He

1702
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 5: had two says that I really didn't understand at the time,

1703
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 5: and I always say this when I'm talking to people.

1704
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 5: One of his things was he says, sonn, it takes

1705
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 5: a second to get in trouble in a lifetime to

1706
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 5: get out, which is true because you think about it,

1707
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 5: just say like, I'm twenty two years old, got me

1708
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 5: a brand new car, Arriot or whatever. I'll drink with

1709
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 5: my buddies, go out, leave the club. He didn't kill somebody,

1710
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 5: didn't take long, did it? I took a second. My

1711
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 5: whole life is changed. And that took a second. And

1712
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 5: I didn't get that at first, and then I got it,

1713
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 5: believed it or not. After he passed away, and my

1714
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:28,919
Speaker 5: dad passed away when I was young, I was seventeen

1715
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 5: and then But the one that gets me the most

1716
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 5: is he says, son, all these you do do what

1717
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 5: you might things done by halves and never done right.

1718
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 2: What's all that you do do with your mic things

1719
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: and halves are never done right?

1720
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 5: Ye, never done right? He said, all you do do

1721
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 5: is one hundred percent. And I take that and I

1722
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 5: always do it just like that, you know, and I

1723
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 5: believe that. I mean business, playing football, all of it.

1724
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,839
Speaker 5: I mean, I didn't want to be second to anyone

1725
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 5: that was. That was my thing. But you know, and

1726
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 5: I tell people that, I say, you know, you got

1727
01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 5: to do it one hundred percent. You know, if you don't,

1728
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 5: like my dad said, look, if you're gonna be if

1729
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 5: you're gonna be the janitor, to be the best janitor is.

1730
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 5: You know, if you're gonna be a businessman, be the

1731
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 5: best businessman there is, you're gonna be a drive, would

1732
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 5: be the best driver there is. And so that's what

1733
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 5: I try to live my life by. You know, I'm

1734
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 5: not perfect by no means. Trust men, I like.

1735
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 2: That daddy, you pick a card. It's terror time. Two

1736
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 2: swords of swords, two swords. We have a woman I

1737
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 2: think blindfolded water behind her calling two swords like wakandah

1738
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: mm hmm, about to find out what do you think

1739
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: it means? Just looking at it?

1740
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 5: Like what I know that?

1741
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 2: Don't like to drink it or get it?

1742
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 5: I don't get it.

1743
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see. The internet is moving very slow.

1744
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: Let me see. Okay, here we go. Two of swords.

1745
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,839
Speaker 3: The two of swords indicates that you're facing a challenging decision,

1746
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,520
Speaker 3: but you're unclear about which option to take. Both possibilities

1747
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 3: may seem equally good or equally bad, and you're stumped

1748
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 3: about which will lead you to the best outcome. You

1749
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,799
Speaker 3: must be able to weigh up the pros and cons

1750
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 3: of each choice and then make a conscious judgment. Use

1751
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 3: both your head, your mind, and the intellect and your

1752
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 3: heart you're feeling intuition to choose the path that is

1753
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 3: most in alignment with your higher self. This might be

1754
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 3: far our bad choice of the week, and in reading,

1755
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 3: it may be helpful to draw further two cards for

1756
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 3: either side of the two swords to show what is

1757
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 3: in your trying to decide upon your balance. You may

1758
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 3: also like to draw for four more cards for the

1759
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 3: pros and cons of each choice. The woman in this

1760
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 3: card where's blindfold, indicating that she cannot see the entirety

1761
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 3: of her circumstances. You may lack the information you need

1762
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,719
Speaker 3: to make the right decision. You may be missing something

1763
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 3: such as the threats or potential risks, alternative solutions, or

1764
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 3: critical pieces of information that would help guide you in

1765
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 3: a particular direction. Once you remove the blindfold and see

1766
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 3: the situation for what it really is, you will be

1767
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 3: in a much better position to find your.

1768
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 2: Best path forward.

1769
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 3: Research your options, seek outside opinions and feedback, and ask

1770
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 3: yourself what you might be missing.

1771
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 2: Hmm, Okay, do you have any decisions you have to make?

1772
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 5: Always something? Trust me always?

1773
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Dad, Well, thank you. I did want to ask

1774
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 2: you about bad Bunny. Did you enjoy the Super Bowl?

1775
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 5: Uh? The game was boring as hell?

1776
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the gay I didn't watch the game

1777
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:02,839
Speaker 2: at all. That we watched the halftime show.

1778
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 5: You didn't watch it at all?

1779
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:06,759
Speaker 2: Are you boycotting it on purpose?

1780
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 4: No?

1781
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 5: Let me tell you something the bathroom. Let me tell

1782
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 5: you something about your dad. Uh, I'm not a music

1783
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 5: person at all.

1784
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 2: You always say that don't like music.

1785
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 5: The only time I listen to music, honestly, it's on

1786
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 5: the golf course of putting my thing.

1787
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 2: So are you silent in the car?

1788
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 5: Dead silent?

1789
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: I remember anything you listening to music?

1790
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 5: Think about it. No, I don't really listen to music.

1791
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: I said. I do b IG's lyrics, not the rapper himself.

1792
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 5: I listen to music, yeah, man, I used to kind of,

1793
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 5: but you know, as I got older, the music has

1794
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 5: changed so much. You know, it's like it just ain't

1795
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 5: the same. And I just, I really, I don't listen

1796
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 5: to it that much. So No, the last half time

1797
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 5: show I watched the one when Snoop, Doctor, Dre fifty

1798
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 5: and Eminem perform. I watched a little bit of that,

1799
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 5: but like last year's was Mars his name, Yeah, I didn't.

1800
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 5: I didn't watch that, I mean, not til I boycott it.

1801
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 5: I just, I mean, I'm just I don't sit and

1802
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 5: watch it.

1803
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 2: Do you know how many messages I have got from

1804
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 2: strangers from friends from the internet about you talking to

1805
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 2: tm Z about Benito and how I have had to

1806
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 2: defend your honor but also text you like that. Can

1807
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 2: you please talking to Stop talking. They're doing it on

1808
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 2: purpose to try and catch you with the airport. Stop

1809
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: talking to them and saying stupid ship, daddy.

1810
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 5: I feel.

1811
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 2: How do you feel?

1812
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 5: This is? This is how I feel about it. First

1813
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 5: of all, I don't know who bad Bunny is. I

1814
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 5: ain't know bugs Bunny, Easter Bunny, I don't I don't know.

1815
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 5: I don't know bad no Bunny. It don't make no

1816
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 5: difference to me. Let me tell you something. First of all,

1817
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 5: I love Latin people.

1818
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 2: I know you have a Latino daughter. I am thank you.

1819
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 2: Your daughter is.

1820
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, so so so. There's nothing of there's nothing to

1821
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 5: do with that. My thing is this and I'm always

1822
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 5: for right and wrong and I'm not saying this is.

1823
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 5: Everybody has that right and wrong. And let me tell

1824
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 5: you something. First of all, I never kill people think

1825
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 5: about me. That's why I say what I say. It's

1826
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 5: my truth and I believe it and I'm not gonna

1827
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 5: try to hurt anybody's feelings. But my Lord and saves

1828
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 5: the most important thing to me. If man this is man,

1829
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 5: this this is they care more about clicks than anything.

1830
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 5: I don't give a damn by a click I would

1831
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 5: even know how to get on the look at a click.

1832
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 5: So anyway, when people say something, I don't know what

1833
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 5: they say, so it they't fake it don't fit to

1834
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 5: affect me. My thing is this, If you don't like

1835
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 5: the United States, if you want to say stuff, if

1836
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 5: you don't want to stand up for the national anthem,

1837
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 5: you know at the baseball game and he did, you know, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.

1838
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 5: Don't do anything here, you know, don't. I don't, Yes,

1839
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 5: hold on that you finisht me finish, Let me finish.

1840
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 5: You know, if if the f Ice, I get it.

1841
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Ice is doing

1842
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 5: everything perfect, but you have to have you have to

1843
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 5: do what Obama had Ice.

1844
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 3: We didn't see none of this shit in the news either.

1845
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. See that's the problem. That's that's it,

1846
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 5: That's what it is.

1847
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 3: I think there's maybe a more tactical, more humane way

1848
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 3: of going about it.

1849
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 5: I'm not in I'm not in the I'm not in

1850
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 5: the politics. But you know what, even biblically, you go

1851
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 5: by the law of the land. It's just the way right.

1852
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 5: I'm just saying over that, like, can I finish and

1853
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 5: let me finish, let me say what I gotta say,

1854
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 5: then you can say what you gotta say the law

1855
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 5: of the land. And I've said again, are they doing

1856
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 5: it right? There's no way to do it right. You

1857
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 5: can It's it's impossible to do this right. It's an

1858
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 5: impossible task because you have too many people that have

1859
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 5: become You can't do it right. It's just you. You can't.

1860
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 5: It's not gonna be everybody's not gonna be happy. That's

1861
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 5: like saying everybody loves sugar. Everybody don't love sugar. My

1862
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 5: thing is this, you know, if if you say stuff

1863
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 5: that is derogatory about the US. Look, the US ain't

1864
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 5: no place perfect, no place is. You can't go you

1865
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 5: can't go to you can't go to Mexico and burn

1866
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 5: their flag. You can't go to Iran and burn their flag.

1867
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 5: You can't go to China and burn their flag. You can't.

1868
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just things you should not do it flags. Sam.

1869
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, this is the stuff that goes on

1870
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 5: that they you know that that that they that they've

1871
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 5: done and he's done it too. Since I stumped stumped

1872
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 5: on the American flag. Look, Benito, Benito, whatever his name is, Benito,

1873
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, like I say me personally,

1874
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 5: I don't care about no bad bunny. Bad bunny don't

1875
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 5: care about me. I don't care about bad. He asked

1876
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 5: me a question how I feel about it? And they

1877
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 5: telling about Will you know, Uh, Puerto Rico is US

1878
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 5: pre Puerto Rico is US territory, just like Guam is.

1879
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,879
Speaker 5: They can't vote for the president. They can't vote not'm because.

1880
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 2: Of a wazu. They're not giving those rights. But they

1881
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 2: guess what they do. Guess what they can do. They

1882
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: can go to the military and go fight for this country.

1883
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: They gotta pay taxes. They use the US dollars.

1884
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 5: I'll say it again, it's not US territory. But hey,

1885
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 5: that's that's that's neither hearing nor that my my thing.

1886
01:26:58,760 --> 01:26:59,799
Speaker 2: It is US territory.

1887
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,560
Speaker 5: It's US territories of states, right, it's US terrorists. Is

1888
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 5: US territory they ask for that. It is US territory.

1889
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 5: But anyway, forget that. Like I said me, personally, I

1890
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 5: don't man, I don't know what to give it. Damn,

1891
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 5: I just think this, you know, My main thing is

1892
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:16,919
Speaker 5: about this is I don't like. Football is football. Football

1893
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 5: is as an American sport. It's first football, it's back baseball.

1894
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 5: Don't put politics into football. Let it be football. Lead

1895
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 5: that stuff from place elf. You want to go to

1896
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 5: concerts like like just like the girl Billie Eili's get

1897
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 5: to talking about you're still in the land. Who wants

1898
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 5: to hear that? I mean, who wants to now they're

1899
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 5: talking about the people saying that, oh you got your

1900
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 5: house on i WI land and now they want the house.

1901
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:41,440
Speaker 5: I mean, football is football. Let's just play football and just.

1902
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 2: No, they have nothing, not consistently, but but yes they have.

1903
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 5: They started this crap erica in the last like eight

1904
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 5: to ten years. This this this nonsense. And the players

1905
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 5: we feel the same way. A lot of players feel

1906
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 5: like I feel like lead that lead that ship over there.

1907
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 5: Let's just playing football. Just get a group out there.

1908
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 5: Look if he if he speaks Spanish, that's fantastic. I

1909
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 5: think Spanish is a sexy language. But you know what,

1910
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 5: you ain't got it. Like like Shakiro she did, she

1911
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 5: did English and Spanish. We find do some English, but

1912
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 5: you're gonna say I'm gonna do my whole concern in Spanish.

1913
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 5: You got four months, you got hold on and got

1914
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 5: let me finish. You got four months to learn Spanish. Hey,

1915
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 5: that's on them. If the NFL wants to do that,

1916
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 5: that's fine. That's how I feel about it. That's how

1917
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 5: a lot of that's how a lot of players occurred

1918
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 5: and retired feel about it. But you know what, they

1919
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 5: ain't got no, they ain't got no choice. But that's

1920
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 5: just that's that's that's my take on. Like I said,

1921
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 5: bad body, don't. You don't give a damn about me,

1922
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 5: and I don't give a damn about him. That's how

1923
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,799
Speaker 5: I feel about it. I mean really, And they fans

1924
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 5: like they can post stuff, think gotta read that ship?

1925
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 5: No ship, that's it. So what they say about your dad,

1926
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 5: I don't care.

1927
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 2: I could give I'm not gonna tell you that a

1928
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 2: lot of good.

1929
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 5: I'm glad they do. Like I said, you don't. My

1930
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 5: main thing is, I say it again, my relationship with

1931
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 5: my Lord and save you. I don't care about none

1932
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 5: of that. I don't care about day they say whatever

1933
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 5: they want to say about me, because you know what,

1934
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 5: one day all of them are going to stand before

1935
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 5: him just like I am. And be judged. I don't

1936
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 5: judge nobody. I'm not judging this man. By no means

1937
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 5: am I judging him, So don't say I'm not saying that.

1938
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 2: What I just want to address a few things. First

1939
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 2: of all, I have a question, Yes, what is the

1940
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 2: official language of America?

1941
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 5: English?

1942
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did, they did it recently then this last

1943
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 3: two years.

1944
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 5: So what's the official There was no language there.

1945
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 2: Was that happened recently because forty million people in America

1946
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 2: speak Spanish. America is indigenous. America is indigenous land. This

1947
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 2: is English is not native to this land. Number one.

1948
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 2: Number two Bad Bunny is one of the biggest streamed

1949
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,719
Speaker 2: artists in the world across all genres, not just Latin.

1950
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 2: So him being there is like it makes sense because

1951
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 2: he's the biggest streamed artist in the world, not just

1952
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 2: within South America or Latin America, that this is the

1953
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 2: whole world, okay. Number two. Puerto Rico. Yes, it's not

1954
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 2: a state, but it is US territory. They pay taxes,

1955
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 2: they have to go fight in wars for US, and

1956
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 2: they contribute to the economy. They use the US dollar

1957
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 2: in Puerto Rico. There's no Puerto Rican dollar and it's

1958
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: the equivalent to the US dollar here. So I just

1959
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 2: like the fact. And because so many people speak Spanish,

1960
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 2: just because we don't, I mean, I know, I know

1961
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 2: what BENEATHO saying, because sooy Latina battle. Just because everybody

1962
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 2: else doesn't doesn't mean that he doesn't have a right

1963
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 2: to be on that stage. And of course, yes they've

1964
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,839
Speaker 2: used it as a political statement, because yes, the NFL

1965
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 2: has the NFL has chosen to make political statements, has

1966
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 2: chosen to use that forum as a place for political statements.

1967
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 2: Now with Ice, what the are doing is crazy, Dad,

1968
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 2: it is I don't you can say like there's no

1969
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 2: good way of doing it. They are literally just pulling

1970
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: people off the street that just look Latino or that

1971
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 2: took Latino. They can be black. They're pulling black people

1972
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 2: off the streets. Like this is the beginning of not

1973
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 2: the beginning. We're already in it of just everyone just

1974
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 2: losing their rights thereabouts that they can enter your home

1975
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: without a warrant, Like it's so much deeper than just

1976
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 2: we have to get the illegals out.

1977
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 3: And we have to talk about law, because historically America's

1978
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 3: law has not as much as it's been lawful or

1979
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 3: been the law we've seen Hence slavery, hence Jim Crow,

1980
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 3: hence the civil rights Those were laws too, but they

1981
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 3: didn't benefit some people's human rights. And so when we

1982
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 3: see that, we have to speak up because we as

1983
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 3: black people not that very long ago, especially you coming

1984
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 3: from Texas.

1985
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: You know they was using the laws you went to

1986
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 2: just like create a school, some function, to do some function.

1987
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 3: These niggas be doing the function the government, the US

1988
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 3: government beyond some functionhit some racist function.

1989
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 2: And that's the truth.

1990
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 3: Even though slaves built this country, built the White House,

1991
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 3: built the wealth of America. Just because some shit is legal,

1992
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 3: don't mean I was gonna say it the see words.

1993
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: Let mean bring it back, let me bring it back.

1994
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 2: These crackers are crazy.

1995
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 3: You gotta watch them and you gotta check them. Hence

1996
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 3: the checks and the balances, and that's about to be

1997
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 3: out the door. So we need all the checks and

1998
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 3: the balances that we can get. Yes, Obama has probably

1999
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 3: had ice. There's always been federal agents that are in

2000
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 3: control of territory and immigrants. However, there's due process. You

2001
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 3: cannot just be fucking killing people and running people over

2002
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,759
Speaker 3: and doing nutshit with people who are uneducated, need the money,

2003
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 3: don't have a fucking pot to piss, and the ice

2004
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 3: agents are getting a check for being dumb as fuck, fat, overweight, dumb,

2005
01:32:55,600 --> 01:33:00,799
Speaker 3: fucking teethless crackers and some other which.

2006
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:01,600
Speaker 2: Is beyond me.

2007
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,799
Speaker 5: Hispanic too, Hispanic black.

2008
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 3: You niggas really got you niggas. Look in the mirror, motherfucker.

2009
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,719
Speaker 2: That's crazy. There's problems. It's not all it's the law.

2010
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 2: We can't rely on the law. No, it's because it's

2011
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: become beyond the line.

2012
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 5: Let me ask you, let me ask you a question.

2013
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 5: So it was kind of recorded to say recorded, we

2014
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 5: don't we don't know what the number is. So it's

2015
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:27,799
Speaker 5: okay for the administration before to let in fifteen million

2016
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 5: undocumented people. Is that okay?

2017
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 2: I feel like God made the land.

2018
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's that's that's the quest. I mean,

2019
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 5: is it okay to have think about this undocumented you know?

2020
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 5: You know? Matter of fact, I'm gonna tell you a story.

2021
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 5: Matter of fact. When I was in Super Bowl, a

2022
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 5: guy gave me a ride. He was uber driving some turkey.

2023
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 5: He speaking, he was pretty good, and I asked him,

2024
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 5: I said, so, how long you have been in the

2025
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 5: United statesy I've been here seven years. I mean seven years.

2026
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:57,640
Speaker 5: And I said, well, I say, do you like it?

2027
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 5: He said yes, he said yes. He said, I said,

2028
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 5: you have your he said, he stopped. He said, let

2029
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:09,520
Speaker 5: me tell you something. He said, I'm not telling you

2030
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 5: what i've heard. I'm telling you how it works. He says,

2031
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 5: I've been here seven years. I just got my official

2032
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 5: card or whatever to be a US citizen four months

2033
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 5: ago today my daughter was born. To day, my day

2034
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 5: my dad died. He says that what they're doing is

2035
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 5: he says, I know for a fact because I knew

2036
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 5: some of these guys. He said, they let in thirty

2037
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 5: nine criminals from Turkey. He say criminals. He said, I'm

2038
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 5: not talking about He said, I'm talking about killers, criminals.

2039
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 5: He said, they got their stuff right away. He said,

2040
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 5: it took me seven years. He said, they're letting the

2041
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 5: criminals in. He says, that's not right. He said, I

2042
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 5: can tell he was frustrated. He said, that's not right.

2043
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,679
Speaker 5: But this my question. I said, so, I said, okay

2044
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 5: to let in fifteen million. And I'm like going to say,

2045
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,759
Speaker 5: it's no perfect way to do it. Do it perfect?

2046
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 5: But is it okay? Letting? And now And this is

2047
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,640
Speaker 5: why I always tell people it don't affect you to

2048
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 5: it affects you if somebody would do something to you,

2049
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 5: Erica or my granddaughter, of my kids from undocumented even

2050
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 5: if here I mean, I don't give a damn who

2051
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 5: it is.

2052
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 4: I was.

2053
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 2: It could be undocumented, it could be an American.

2054
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 5: Either way, it does make a difference when it's it's like,

2055
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 5: this guy has a record of doing this in just

2056
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,560
Speaker 5: say Russia. I'm gonna use that he has a he

2057
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 5: has a record of being a rapist and a murderer

2058
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 5: in Russia. But that's what I'm asking. But but, but,

2059
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 5: but what I'm saying is I'm.

2060
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 2: To say, but that that that that percentage is so small,

2061
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 2: that it is that percentage is so Smallida kids, and

2062
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 2: that percentage is so small, and and and it's and

2063
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 2: they use it as propaganda to then paint this picture

2064
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 2: that all illegal and that most of the illegal undocumented

2065
01:35:54,880 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 2: immigrants are our criminals are all these different things are,

2066
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 2: but have no problem putting them in positions in jobs

2067
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 2: that nobody else wants to do. And it's just like

2068
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 2: this is I don't know, I feel like I need

2069
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 2: more informed to I need to I don't want to

2070
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 2: speak and not have the right information. But no, I

2071
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:22,560
Speaker 2: do not think that we should have fifteen million undocumented

2072
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 2: people in here. Do I think those fifteen million people

2073
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 2: are criminals? No, I do not do. I believe that

2074
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 2: there needs to be people need their due process, and

2075
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 2: there needs to be better laws in order for people

2076
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 2: to get residency, get their green card, all those things. Absolutely,

2077
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:42,719
Speaker 2: But I think that this administration has villainized immigrants. And

2078
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 2: I think that the white agenda is so strong because

2079
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 2: they are actually the minority and they know that worldwide,

2080
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 2: and there's a sense of fear that has come into place.

2081
01:36:55,720 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 2: And I also think, Daddy, that you play golf off

2082
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 2: with a lot of white people that back to that.

2083
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of whites and they be saying

2084
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 2: ship that might make a lot of sense to you,

2085
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 2: but it's not the truth.

2086
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:11,799
Speaker 5: They don't bring They don't even bring up politics.

2087
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 2: It's not the true.

2088
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 5: They don't bring up politics.

2089
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 2: Can we just make a promise? Can we just do

2090
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 2: a promise? I need you to make a promise to me.

2091
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: Can you please, Daddy, for the love of fucking God,

2092
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 2: not talk to t m Z any more? Pinky promise?

2093
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 5: I promise I won't talk about bad bunny.

2094
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 2: You don't need to talk to about nothing no more.

2095
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 2: That is that is the lowest of the lowest news

2096
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 2: source ever since Van Lathan left.

2097
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 5: Let me let me, let me tell you. Let me

2098
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 5: tell you something that I know for a fact. Media

2099
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 5: cannot be trusted.

2100
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

2101
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 5: Politics came out, none of them. Politics came in. But

2102
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 5: you cannot trust the media because your dad has been

2103
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:01,679
Speaker 5: part of that part. I've been villainized in the media.

2104
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 5: So I mean, I don't, I don't. I don't take

2105
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 5: anything they say as as gospel. My thing is is that,

2106
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 5: you know, I just feel like that, Yes, they probably

2107
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 5: skew the numbers for sure, but when you when you

2108
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 5: when you see Hillary Clinton, you see Obama, you see

2109
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 5: Bill Clinton talk about till I think it's two thousand

2110
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 5: and nine, in two thousand and twenty twenty, when they

2111
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,759
Speaker 5: say the same thing that's happening right now, we cannot

2112
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 5: have the illegals here, We cannot do this. We have

2113
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 5: to deport them, we have to. I'm like, wow, now

2114
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 5: it's funny. I'm watching them say the same thing, and

2115
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's right by by. I'm saying keep

2116
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 5: this get this straight. I'm not saying it's right what

2117
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 5: that man is doing. By no means I think he's

2118
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Speaker 5: doing it right, by not at all. But how's it

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Speaker 5: good for the goose? But it ain't good for the gander?

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Speaker 5: That's what that's That's what I don't get. That's why

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Speaker 5: I say the media you can't trust me. They they

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Speaker 5: said it. Trump's saying it pretty much the same thing.

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Speaker 5: But you know, it's just anything anything this man does.

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Speaker 5: And I, like I said, I'm not in the politics

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Speaker 5: because I'm gona tell you three things you can't agree on.

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Speaker 5: You can't agree on religion, how to raise your kids

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Speaker 5: in politics, those three you'll never win on. And so

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Speaker 5: it's just it's just my opinion. And I mean, I'm

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Speaker 5: not out of it. And you know, I'm a guy

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Speaker 5: I've never voted. Never. I feel like it's a waste

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Speaker 5: of time. You know. That's why I don't get into politics.

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Speaker 5: I think I think all politicians are crooked is criminals.

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Speaker 5: I think all of them are criminalist. I think Trump

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Speaker 5: is crooked. I think Obama's crooked. I think Clanton is crooked.

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Speaker 5: I think the Democrat Party is criokeet I think the

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Speaker 5: Republican Party is crooked. I think, all I'm a crooked now.

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Speaker 5: I believe that, and that's that's to me. That's that's

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Speaker 5: my truth. I mean, you got people who won't talk

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Speaker 5: to their family because you're a Democrat and I'm a Republican.

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Speaker 5: How stupid that is ignorant to me? You think I

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Speaker 5: will stop talking to you because because you're a Democrat,

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Speaker 5: you'd like bad money. And I don't, absolutely not. I

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Speaker 5: don't take it that serious. I think it's a fun

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Speaker 5: conversation and something to talk about. Then if it gets

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Speaker 5: too deep, I say, hey, these politics alone. I tell

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Speaker 5: my friends, hey, let's get off these politics. Let's talk

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Speaker 5: about something else. And that's it. So that's how that's

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Speaker 5: that's how I feel. I mean, like I said, it

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Speaker 5: ain't gonna never be done right. This this world is

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Speaker 5: so corrupt, corruption, and it's all about money power, that's

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Speaker 5: what it's about. And we know and we know, we know, man,

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Speaker 5: we know, we know what I call him. I call

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Speaker 5: him Mighty White Tea. You know, you know you know

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Speaker 5: how he is. He ain't gonna let you take his power.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask let me ask you, let me ask

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Speaker 5: you this question, and this is one. I'm if it

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Speaker 5: was all blacks coming in here, trying to come in

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Speaker 5: from all niggas, you think that, you think they'd the

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Speaker 5: houses and take them, take care of them for free. Hell,

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Speaker 5: thank you. If it was just us, just but all

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Speaker 5: I mean all us, they would be like shooting ass

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Speaker 5: at the border. Ain't getting your black asser in here?

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Speaker 2: Answer?

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Speaker 5: Like what all that? Just like the at the White

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Speaker 5: Hi when when they when they stormed the White House,

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Speaker 5: if that was a bunch of niggas did that, it'd

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Speaker 5: be they still be cleaning them up off the off

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Speaker 5: the White House, damn right, whatever that does Congress steps.

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Speaker 5: So anyway, that's that's how I feel. But I will

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Speaker 5: promise you I will stay up TMD and I want

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Speaker 5: be talking about bad money.

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Speaker 2: I want it's recorded now.

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Speaker 5: So there's certain things I'm gonna talk about now. I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna talk about the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fine about You have a Latina daughter, so I

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Speaker 2: need you to chill.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, thank you. I love latinos.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing, daddy, you like Latina women.

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Speaker 5: You're right. I love the women. That's that. That's the truth.

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Speaker 5: You got that right?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, you lose them all if you're talking

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Speaker 3: about bad money anyway.

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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: I'm old now anyway. Thank you, daddy, baby, thank you,

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Speaker 5: thank you for having me. I love you. Good good

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Speaker 5: seeing too.

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Speaker 2: I'm so grateful that you came.

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Speaker 3: If anyone hasn't listened to our episode with Eric seven

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Speaker 3: years ago, what was it called the groupies?

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Speaker 2: The football parenthood and groupies. I think i'll put it

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Speaker 2: in the Lincoln Suscription.

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Speaker 5: Group of the group is ain't changed, it an't.

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Speaker 2: Got worse anyway. And my daddy don't really. He has

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Speaker 2: social media, but he don't run in He just posted

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Speaker 2: Bible verses over there anyway. It's kind of.

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Speaker 5: Boring over the curt on social Just notice that I

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Speaker 5: don't see it.

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Speaker 2: Every time I see a post from you as a

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Speaker 2: Bible verse.

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Speaker 5: You got it above him.

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Speaker 3: Now you know where to find us at Good Mom's Underscore,

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Speaker 3: Bad Choices on Instagram. Please check out the Good Vibe

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Speaker 3: or tree we have to retreats coming up. You can

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Speaker 3: follow me at Mila Underscore map. You can follow me

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Speaker 3: at Watch Erica.

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Speaker 2: And we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 5: You can follow me at TMZ.

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Speaker 2: Bye. Yeah, it is so good. Can't you tell? I

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Speaker 2: went through a drought. That's until I found a well.

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Speaker 2: May might have been known art that used.

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Speaker 4: To be broken tail now got the blues hands and

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Speaker 4: might be Yon say Jill throat shots from Pop and

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Speaker 4: his car wearing our voices. Patriarchy catch it in the box,

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Speaker 4: So what's spoil? Women put the p and powers, So

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Speaker 4: what's pointing?

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Speaker 2: They want me to be good, so I make that choices.

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Speaker 4: Bad mom, not a bad mom, but a bad mom

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Speaker 4: it he's in on the cannabis in her bathbon walked

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Speaker 4: in Boston's cap and I blewis.

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Speaker 2: Cat boss hot dog.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm immune to the cat called Herbie in the

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Speaker 4: waisted straight.

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Speaker 2: To it like a dollar sign.

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Speaker 4: Mother, rent the lover when too what it is like

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Speaker 4: a water summer where you're rent the winter essential will

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Speaker 4: when the summertime? I do what doll ain't know one

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Speaker 4: that needs to run it by