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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how's everybody doing here? On Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you. Welcome into One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live and thanks for making us a part of your afternoon.

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Speaker 2: As we march onward to the weekend for the big

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Speaker 2: Week eight matchup with the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 3: Week seven's finally behind us, she said, double double header,

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Speaker 3: last of it. It's too much for me.

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Speaker 1: It's too much of a commitment.

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Speaker 3: Seven seven, Yeah, teams kick and then another eight or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It was like a nine to I was coming off late,

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Speaker 2: traveling for a Sunday, coming back from the bye week.

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Speaker 2: I was in bed by like nine. I was asleep

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Speaker 2: by nine thirty. I had the game on, but I

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Speaker 2: was I was fading fast.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it was so much football last night.

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Speaker 3: It went a Monday night double header, and I was thinking, wow,

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Speaker 3: it was I was thinking normal Monday. I didn't realize

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Speaker 3: the double header started.

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Speaker 1: We missed the first quarter, well a quarter and a half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was and I you know, I

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Speaker 3: was like, eh, it was the uh first game which

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Speaker 3: I can't even remember. Who's playing?

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Speaker 1: Lions Buck Lions Bucks?

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Speaker 3: Nice game, Lions come out, jump out to the early league,

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Speaker 3: never let it up. And yeah, the Lions just played

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Speaker 3: out of their minds last night. Their defense was the

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Speaker 3: difference in that game.

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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, I'm just gonna tell you I

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Speaker 2: read at the beginning of the season during training camp,

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Speaker 2: you know, when you have a chance, got some idle

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Speaker 2: time out of camp after practice, and I was reading

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Speaker 2: a feature right up on Kelvin Sheppard, who you know

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Speaker 2: is a former third round draft choice of the Bills.

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Speaker 2: He was part of the Jerry Hughes trade, and he

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Speaker 2: was the new defensive coordinator, you know, for the Lions,

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Speaker 2: replacing Aaron Glenn who went to become a head coach

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Speaker 2: of the Jets.

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Speaker 1: As we all know, and.

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Speaker 2: Dude is no nonsense. There are no excuses, nothing like

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Speaker 2: they asked him at a press conference. Oh you know,

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Speaker 2: you got another rash of injuries again. I don't care,

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Speaker 2: Like that's not going to affect our performance. We don't

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Speaker 2: make excuses here. We're not in the business of making excuses.

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Speaker 2: We're in the business of getting results. And I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: h I'm liking this. Yeah, Like he is lockstep with

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell's approach to football.

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Speaker 1: And it's working for them because they've been down their

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Speaker 1: top two corners the last three weeks.

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Speaker 3: And that's what happened last year too, when they had really.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have Aleen McNeil for the first month of

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Speaker 1: the season, had from.

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Speaker 3: Their entire it was the thing that kept them from

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Speaker 3: being everything you thought they could be last year. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Hutchinson going down. Then Hutchinson last night was an absolute

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Speaker 3: game wrecker, a game wrecker. So yeah, the Lions were

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Speaker 3: impressive last night, really impressive last night against a good

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Speaker 3: Bucks team who's five to one coming in. They were

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Speaker 3: you know, they were riding hot. Course, they were on

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Speaker 3: the road in Detroit, night game. The whole thing. I

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Speaker 3: get a tough environment and they just scored nine points.

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Speaker 1: That's not like them, No, it's Mike.

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Speaker 3: Mike Evans went down with a busted collar bone twos

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then the late game was Seahawks Texans. Seahawks

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Speaker 2: get a late defensive stand. Well, their defense is really good.

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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, who was the former DC in Baltimore before

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got some good people, good players. And the

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Speaker 3: Texans I think had Still they're still i think disappointing themselves.

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Speaker 3: They had high hopes last year. They were gonna be

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Speaker 2: And and the Texans have a very potent defense. Their

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're struggle, They're struggling.

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Speaker 2: They've already switched play callers a month into the season

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Speaker 3: They were struggling. They struggled to run at last night.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, they had they had the turnover like you know, uh,

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Speaker 3: rough night for those for those for Tampa Bay and

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Speaker 3: Houston going into those places. So it was what are

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's uh a lot going on in.

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Speaker 1: That Texans team is a much tougher team to play

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Speaker 3: Than well, like everybody is. But I think it's exaggerating.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what That was my point. Yes, it

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Speaker 3: But getting back to the whole point of this double

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Speaker 3: hitter on money, why are they doing that week seven?

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Speaker 3: What's the deal?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's the third time it's happened. They did

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Speaker 1: it week one, But why they did it last week? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But why they the bills were one of two?

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Speaker 3: Why why are they doing that? I mean, I'm now

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Speaker 3: I got them turning my nose up at it after.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're trying to turn up the West Coast numbers.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's not at five when people are still

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 3: There's there's not that many teams out there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you get to Denver and it's Denver, Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Seattle, but that's San frans Arizona and Denver.

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Speaker 1: In Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: That's like, what is that a quarter of a league?

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Speaker 1: Not even seven teams.

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Speaker 3: It's not that many teams out there. And let me

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Speaker 3: tell you something it's a hike to get to Denver. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: I know, let alone Seattle far be it from me

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Speaker 3: to I don't know what that It's hard, man. I

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Speaker 3: struggled last night. I was even like flipping back and

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Speaker 1: For crying out loud, first world problems. Baseball Steven is

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Speaker 2: Trying to find enough personal motivation to stay awake to watch,

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Speaker 3: My thumb told really is exhausting. But then you gonna

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Speaker 3: wait for the you know, and if you listen, if

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Speaker 3: you have to think about this, this is the first

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Speaker 3: world problem. Okay, you hesitate to go back and forth

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Speaker 3: the other and you have to change apps on.

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Speaker 1: Your Oh that's a real thing. Wow, that is a

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Speaker 3: You fifteen seconds to get from one channel to the other.

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Speaker 3: That's almost a deal break.

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Speaker 1: You sorely missed channel flap four with that.

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Speaker 3: That is a first world problem.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just telling it as it is a first

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Speaker 1: world problem. But it's real, and it is real, and

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Speaker 1: we should get fixed.

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Speaker 2: It should because in this day and age of technology,

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Speaker 2: there should be a way to use the flashback button

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Speaker 2: on your remote and go from app to app.

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Speaker 1: But because of wireless.

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Speaker 2: And all that other garbage, I think it's gonna take

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Speaker 2: them a minute to figure.

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Speaker 3: Out we are we're goners, man, No we're not we're goners.

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Speaker 1: No, we're not able.

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Speaker 2: That are Gonners are the kids that grew up with

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Speaker 2: this stuff, the on demand generation, Like they want stuff

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Speaker 2: you immediately get from There is zero page you can

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Speaker 2: get from Amazon Prime for one of the Thursday night

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Speaker 2: games over to like ESPN.

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Speaker 3: For a Thursday night football game for to or a

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Speaker 3: baseball game or whatever hockey hockey game or whatever MSG

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Speaker 3: or an early college game. Like the station we're on,

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Speaker 3: you can't get to this station from Amazon for a

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Speaker 3: Sabers game then a Thursday night football game. It's like

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Speaker 3: a fifteen second process. Yeah, with a couple of pushes

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Speaker 3: on the bus. Like, man, forget it. That's a that

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Speaker 3: is a first world problem. But let me say it

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Speaker 3: ticks me off.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, they're gonna have to come up with like

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Speaker 2: a multi Windows solution, much like you have on your

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Speaker 2: that's what you're gonna have to do, like a browser. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna have to come up with.

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Speaker 1: A way to do that.

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Speaker 3: I am embarrassed in my instance.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm don't blame us, I know, blame us all

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Speaker 2: the cable companies. It was remotes and said, oh, look,

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Speaker 2: you can flash back to the last channel.

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Speaker 3: You'll it's a great idea. But I'm I am embarrassed

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not surprised at all with you.

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Speaker 3: I am. I'm embarrassed of my level of spoiled rottenness.

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Speaker 1: You're not spoiled rotten.

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Speaker 2: You were just given modern day conveniences, and then when

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Speaker 2: they are taken when they are taken away, you must

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Speaker 2: expect the rebellion.

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Speaker 3: Totally. That's correct. So expect rebellion. That's where we are.

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Speaker 3: I'm not rebelling against the lack of being able to

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a big ask, Steve. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it is. This will last. It will last, It shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: It should get fixed quickly.

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Speaker 3: They'll give it to us. But still, yeah, in this

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Speaker 1: Yourself, box, I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Bill's notes for you.

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Speaker 2: Off day for the Bills today, but according to the

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Speaker 2: league's trans Action Wire, the Bills officially opened up cornerback

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Speaker 2: Maxwell Harriston's practice window, so his twenty one day window

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Speaker 2: opens Wednesday. Officially, he is still on injured reserve, but

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Speaker 2: now the coaching staff can evaluate him in the practice

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Speaker 2: setting and if they deem him ready, can then activate

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Speaker 2: have an open roster spot.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see how that.

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Speaker 2: Works through the course of the practice and boy they

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Speaker 2: use him.

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Speaker 3: It's been a long time.

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Speaker 2: Oh we're talking first first week and all three months.

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Speaker 2: First week in August. We're almost into November.

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Speaker 3: Here, it's been three months, so August, September, October, we're

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Speaker 3: half with two thirds of the way through octob It's

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Speaker 3: been more than three months.

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Speaker 2: So everyone pray for Max's healing and that there are

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Speaker 2: no setbacks from this point forward.

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Speaker 1: Let's go around the end. I'm not even joking. Let's

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Speaker 1: go around the NFL presented by a lot of help.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing Hosial healthcare system of the Buffalo Bill.

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Speaker 3: The bye week happens, you see all the teams that

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Speaker 3: are right around you and the page you're chasing, and

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Speaker 3: they're all playing out of their minds, and you're sitting

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Speaker 3: here waiting, And the last time you saw your team,

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Speaker 3: they lost by ten to to a franchise that struggled

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, Howie Rosen will make some kind of trade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, got a jam packed show for you today. Coming

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Speaker 1: But we have a topic of discussion for you.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you think it is, you tell us where you

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three five point fifty one eight eight five

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Speaker 2: to Patrick in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Patrick?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Chris Hey, Steves, thanks a lot for taking my car.

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Speaker 4: I always appreciate both of your guys are insights. Often

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Speaker 4: But uh, you know, as the league gets more tape

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Speaker 3: Yeah, got you, thanks, Pat, Uh Yeah, go ahead. See Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And those I don't know that everybody would agree with.

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Speaker 2: I think that's just that's not There aren't any game

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a little tough to pay.

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Speaker 2: up into the middle of first round. For example, two

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Speaker 2: years ago or three years ago, he traded up to

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Speaker 2: the middle of the first round because.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter was sliding.

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Speaker 2: They were off the field concerns, and he went up

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Speaker 2: and got what was arguably one of the two or

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Speaker 2: three best players in the entire draft class because he

446
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Speaker 2: was sliding. Yeah, that's what I mean talent. So that

447
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Speaker 2: might be where the Bills have to tread next in

448
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Speaker 2: the draft, because if you're gonna be perennially drafting twenty third,

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Speaker 2: twenty fourth, twenty fifth, sixth seven, eight thirty thirty. First,

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Speaker 2: you may have to part with some draft caps capital,

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Speaker 2: maybe only draft five guys in a draft class, but

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Speaker 2: move up.

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Speaker 3: That's what they did to get Josh twice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be what you have to do if

455
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Speaker 2: you want to get more superstars on this roster and

456
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Speaker 2: you can't pay for them where you are fiscally.

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Speaker 3: And we all know too, timing is big too, because

458
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Speaker 3: you need these guys to play like that when they're

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Speaker 3: on their rookie deal, like Josh did you know? And yeah,

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Speaker 3: so that's yeah, you're not far off, Patrick. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I you're right, it's hard. You gotta find guys, and

462
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Speaker 3: you got to get guys that play above the value

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Speaker 3: of their contract. And that's you know, quarterbacks, you know,

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Speaker 3: play into his contract. I mean, the guy's the MVP

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Speaker 3: and he's like the tenth or twelfth highest paid quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So you've got that going on, but it has to

467
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Speaker 3: be further down the roster as well.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Cindy and Niagara.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Cindy, Hi, Chris.

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Speaker 6: I see, thanks for taking my call. What I believe

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Speaker 6: the eas seest thing is is to use Cook in

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Speaker 6: a passing game up the middle. But that's just me.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I have noticed that Josh is he's

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Speaker 6: not Josh. It's not He's not the same as he

476
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Speaker 6: was last year. I'm not sure what's going on. Too

477
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Speaker 6: many commercials, distracted, whatever, but they need to get back

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Speaker 6: on track. Love the Bills and it's not going to change,

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Speaker 6: all right. And wait my question, Sure I heard that

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Speaker 6: the Panthers quarterback went out with an ankle injury. Is

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Speaker 6: that substantiating?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there are there are reports out there that

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Speaker 2: he's going to miss this game and it would be

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Speaker 2: Andy Dalton starting. The head coach of the Panthers, Dave

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Speaker 2: Canal is kind of poop pooed at this. I think

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Speaker 2: he's just using some gainsmanship here because in the same

487
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Speaker 2: press conference he also said that the potential exists for

488
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Speaker 2: it to be a multi week injury because the reports

489
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Speaker 2: are it's a high ankle spring and that can be

490
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Speaker 2: anywhere from two to six weeks. So it's almost a

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Speaker 2: foregone conclusion he's not going to play this week, but

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Speaker 2: Canalis is holding out hope that Young can get on

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Speaker 2: the practice field in practice. I'm not terribly optimistic if

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Speaker 2: it is in fact a high ankle spring. So that's

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Speaker 2: what the Bills could be looking at a backup quarterback

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Speaker 2: this week in Carolina for their game here in week eight.

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Speaker 2: We have to take a break when we come back.

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Speaker 2: Former Bill center Mitch MOR's gonna join us for From

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Speaker 2: the Armchair. We'll get his thoughts on how coach McDermott

500
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Speaker 2: operates during a bye week and coming out of it

501
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Speaker 2: and why it's been so successful, knowing the Bills are

502
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Speaker 2: eight to no one under McDermott. Post by that conversation

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Speaker 2: next year on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us back here on One Bill's Live, where.

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Speaker 2: It is time for From the Armchair, presented by Raymore

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Speaker 2: and Flannagan. Raymore and Flannagan is a proud partner of

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and sitting in that armchair his former

508
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: Bill center Mitch Morse, who's gonna kind of help paint

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Speaker 2: the picture of what a bye week and coming out

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Speaker 2: of a bye week looks like under Sean McDermott, having

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Speaker 2: done it a few times, Mitch, welcome in glad to

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Speaker 2: have you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is a what is a bye week?

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Speaker 2: I mean, after you get your time off and you're

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Speaker 2: back in the saddle, coming off your your downtime.

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Speaker 1: How does coach usually approach the.

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Speaker 2: Week, because I can tell you on Monday, just yesterday,

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Speaker 2: this team was pounding fundamentals on the practice field.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd say what Sean does is he hits the

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Speaker 7: ground running, dude, especially with just how this team is

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Speaker 7: come off this two game losing streak. I'm sure that

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Speaker 7: they've done some self scouting and I think it's just

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Speaker 7: trying to set the tone, man, get back into it.

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Speaker 7: Get the fundamentals. I think that's the main stay. That's

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Speaker 7: what he's going to be hammering in team meetings at

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Speaker 7: practice all week. But that was just kind of the

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Speaker 7: cherry set in tone for getting these boys going was

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Speaker 7: staying with fundamentals. It's what's probably gotten these guys in trouble.

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Speaker 7: They know they don't need to reinvent the wheel. They

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Speaker 7: just need to double down on what they know and

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Speaker 7: that's the basics. That's what you do after the bye week.

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Speaker 7: And it's not a fancy thing that he does, but

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Speaker 7: you're grinding it out after a bye week, just kind

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Speaker 7: of get the body calloused again. Even though it was

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Speaker 7: only a few days off. The nervous system, took a

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Speaker 7: little bit of a break, and now it's time to

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Speaker 7: wrap it and prime it up again.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, I mean, you've watched, just like

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Speaker 3: we have been six games. What do you see from

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Speaker 3: this team that might need to be adjusted rather than

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Speaker 3: just doubling down on getting back to fundamentals. What do

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Speaker 3: you think they need to address, if anything address?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question. I think it's it's easy

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Speaker 7: for us to sit here and nitpick, right, especially if

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Speaker 7: we're not in the building, if we're not in those

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Speaker 7: meetings and privy to those conversations. I think what they

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Speaker 7: do need to work on and fix is just working

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Speaker 7: on those fundamentals man hand placement, footwork, getting the little

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Speaker 7: stuff right because they have conceptually, they know the ins

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Speaker 7: and outs of every play, and maybe it's just accentuating

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Speaker 7: the good stuff that we've seen and just kind of

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Speaker 7: tightening up those little things. Like for me, what it

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Speaker 7: comes down to if I'm a defensive guy, right like,

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Speaker 7: it sits those violent initial hands on the defensive line,

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Speaker 7: it's eye discipline as a dB and a linebacker, and

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Speaker 7: then as an offensive lineman, it's still a hand placement first,

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Speaker 7: you know, the first step getting your body in good

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Speaker 7: relative position, receivers being a timing and routes and all

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Speaker 7: this good stuff. So I would just not reinvent the wheel.

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Speaker 7: Keep the main thing the main thing, and that's these

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Speaker 7: guys know how to play football. They know how to

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Speaker 7: play it at a high level. So just double down

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Speaker 7: on what you know works.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, with that extra time for the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff to self scout, naturally, they're probably going to

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Speaker 2: come up with some wrinkles to play off maybe some

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Speaker 2: of their tendencies. You know, if opponents have studied those

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Speaker 2: and might get lured into thinking this is coming based

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Speaker 2: on a formation or a presnat motion and then you

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Speaker 2: hit them with something else. To what degree do you remember, Mitch,

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Speaker 2: seeing some of those subtle changes within scheme as tendency

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Speaker 2: breakers that you utilized coming out of the buy.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Chris is a great question. I think the thing

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Speaker 7: you're going to see, to your point is that self

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Speaker 7: scouting analytics in this game was turned in the last

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Speaker 7: decade or so. It's just such a paramount and such

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Speaker 7: a everyone forefront of everyone's mind in this league. And

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Speaker 7: I think too, to their credit, they do a good

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Speaker 7: job of studying that, just being candid understanding that even

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Speaker 7: if it's not sexy, or even if it's something that

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Speaker 7: they really love, if they have to change it a bit,

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Speaker 7: like listen, dude, the only thing that matters is putting

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Speaker 7: points on the board or keeping points off of the

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Speaker 7: opposing offense. So it's just keeping those those cores. So

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Speaker 7: I can only speak really from the offensive side. So

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Speaker 7: if it's a run play right, and we do it

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Speaker 7: out of this personnel or we're we have a tendency

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Speaker 7: of throwing it out of this person this personnel and

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Speaker 7: first and second down or whatever, it's it's marrying different

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Speaker 7: things and different stuff with the same concepts in these

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Speaker 7: runs and then that way it's an extra wrinkle. Sometimes

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Speaker 7: the players don't even really recognize it. It's just so subtle,

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Speaker 7: and it just keeps the defense because they're self scouting

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Speaker 7: themselves every week as the opposing team, and they're scouting you.

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Speaker 7: So it's just giving them something a little bit to

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Speaker 7: think about and maybe making it just a split second

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Speaker 7: of a decision, just timing on the defense in regards

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Speaker 7: to what they're seeing, and that is it's a game

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Speaker 7: of benches in a game of seconds in this league,

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Speaker 7: and if you give yourself any bit of competitive advantage,

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Speaker 7: it's a huge benefit.

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Speaker 3: So we're you know, we're just past the quarter pole

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Speaker 3: in the season, almost get into halfway. But it's it's

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Speaker 3: become an ax in the NFL. You you coach, your scheme,

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Speaker 3: your play call is both on both sides of the

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Speaker 3: ball as to what your players can do best. You

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Speaker 3: want it. You want them to play to their strengths.

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Speaker 3: And by doing so, when teams start to know you

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Speaker 3: as well as you know yourself, do you run the

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Speaker 3: risk of becoming predictable because you only have this guy

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Speaker 3: doing this because that's what he does best. You only

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Speaker 3: have these this group on the field because they do

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Speaker 3: this best, and then becomes predictable And how do you

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Speaker 3: fight against that? But by the same token, when they

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Speaker 3: do it they do best, they're hard to stop anyway, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's what you do. That's the name

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Speaker 3: of the game, right, Not a.

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Speaker 7: Doubt, Steve, You're you're walking on the edge of the

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Speaker 7: chef's knife here, right, Because to your point, dude, what

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Speaker 7: you do, you do, you do what works, you do

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Speaker 7: what you're great at, and you accentuate those things. But

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Speaker 7: also like, for example, the last game, right, I would

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Speaker 7: say that this team for the first five weeks was

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Speaker 7: an outside zone team. You cut it back on the backside, Boom,

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Speaker 7: you have these chunk yardages. James Cook uses his eyes

627
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Speaker 7: and his patients and hits the hole wherever it's deemed applicable. Right,

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Speaker 7: But then you see the Patriots kind of really overloading

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Speaker 7: that backside and then outside zone really hammering the cutback

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Speaker 7: claim and it made it a little difficult. And then

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Speaker 7: you see the guys versus the Falcons when they did

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Speaker 7: have success, they're running between the tackles, something I didn't

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Speaker 7: really seen an Aaron Kromer or Joe Brady offense, but

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Speaker 7: they were doing it well. So if they can keep

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Speaker 7: doing that, it's going to open up what they're good at.

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Speaker 7: And if they can kind of work on the ins

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Speaker 7: and outs of these duos, these inside zones, these gap schemes,

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Speaker 7: it's going to work out pretty well for him and

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Speaker 7: then open up, to your point, the stuff that they're very,

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Speaker 7: very good at.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious what the vibes like in a locker room

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Speaker 2: when maybe I mean, this could apply to any week,

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Speaker 2: but in this particular week, coming off the buy they

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Speaker 2: knew they were getting two defensive players back, and Michael

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Speaker 2: Hoyt and Ogan Joby who come off of suspension, and

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Speaker 2: there's a chance here with Maxwell Harrison starting to finally

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Speaker 2: practice again this week, that they'll get him back into

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Speaker 2: the fold. What do those additions back into the room,

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Speaker 2: and more importantly, the lineup do for the juice of

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Speaker 2: a football team that's still trying to put some pieces

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Speaker 2: together on the defensive side of the ball, do mainly

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Speaker 2: to injury.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Chris, you just look at those two guys objectively,

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Speaker 7: Michael Hoyt and Larry Okunjoby. They're just good football players.

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Speaker 7: So you getting two very good football players back. And

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Speaker 7: I've said for years Okeunjobi is one of the most

657
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Speaker 7: underrated defensive linemen in the NFL. I mean, he was

658
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Speaker 7: a real nightmare play against. He's a good football player.

659
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Speaker 7: So to have a guy like that back in there,

660
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Speaker 7: it does interject something into a defensive line that is

661
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Speaker 7: I think playing very well. It's on the cusp of

662
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Speaker 7: really playing great. And then you add these two pieces.

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Speaker 7: It's just it gives you an opportunity to mix and match.

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Speaker 7: It interjects a little energy into the rotation. A little

665
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Speaker 7: more juice in practice. Yeah, you get new faces. It

666
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Speaker 7: breaks up the monotony, of course, just from just from

667
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Speaker 7: the outside looking in, but also you get just really

668
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Speaker 7: good football players. And then we see Maxwell Harrison for

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Speaker 7: the first time, possibly here in the next few weeks.

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Speaker 7: I'm elated to see what he can do. I know

671
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Speaker 7: that's something you never want to see as your first rounder,

672
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Speaker 7: being sidelined so early. But there's a reason why he

673
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Speaker 7: was brought here, and that's he's good at his job.

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Speaker 7: So we'll give him a little bit of grace. We'll

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Speaker 7: get him some practice reps. I'm sure it'll be intense

676
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Speaker 7: practice for him because youve got to get his legs

677
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Speaker 7: underneath him while still walking a little bit of a

678
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Speaker 7: tight rope, and his injury aspect. But yeah, you're gonna

679
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Speaker 7: get dudes who can play football at a high level

680
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Speaker 7: on that defensive line. And then you have an opportunity

681
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Speaker 7: to see a young player come in, make plays and

682
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Speaker 7: introject some energy on that defense.

683
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Speaker 3: So you got Hoyt and Ogan Joeby coming in spin

684
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Speaker 3: it positive for you if you're an offensive lineman and

685
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Speaker 3: you're gonna face these guys the first time. How different

686
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Speaker 3: could it look, and how much better could it be

687
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Speaker 3: with two guys in there that haven't played for six

688
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Speaker 3: weeks but are the kind of caliber you're talking about.

689
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Speaker 3: I mean, how if you spin it forward and it

690
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Speaker 3: goes as good as it could possibly go, how many

691
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Speaker 3: different things could the Bills defense do upfront with those

692
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Speaker 3: two guys rather than what they've been doing up to

693
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Speaker 3: this point.

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Speaker 7: Steve, That's a great question. It's kind of going back

695
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Speaker 7: to the you know the question a few questions back,

696
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Speaker 7: which is you don't want to totally reinvent the wheel

697
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Speaker 7: with this whole thing. We know what this defense's DNA is,

698
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Speaker 7: what they are comfortable doing. It definitely adds more pieces

699
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Speaker 7: in the rotation for getting guys breaks, getting guys their

700
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Speaker 7: win back, I think, and especially on that defense and

701
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Speaker 7: the way that this defensive line runs, it's you're playing

702
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Speaker 7: the pass to the run, and these guys are exceptional

703
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Speaker 7: first steps. Ogunjobi is a very good explosive player with

704
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Speaker 7: extremely quick feet and explosive hands. You get him implemented,

705
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Speaker 7: and I think even you get into third right opening

706
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Speaker 7: other guys up with twist games and stunts, and I

707
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Speaker 7: think that's something we're going to see after this bye week.

708
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Speaker 7: Is this team trying to implement more foreman rushes and

709
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Speaker 7: getting home there even if it's just creating pressure through

710
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Speaker 7: fore man rushes, and I think adding these pieces can

711
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Speaker 7: do that.

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Speaker 2: Any thoughts before we let you go on Bill's Panthers.

713
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Speaker 2: You got the number one rushing offense and the number

714
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Speaker 2: three rushing offense here going against each other. I'm expecting

715
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Speaker 2: a lot of handoffs in this game, knowing how successful

716
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Speaker 2: it's been for the identity of Buffalo's offense, but for

717
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Speaker 2: Carolina too with the emergency here of Rico double Or.

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Speaker 7: We're going to see two very run heavy offenses. Right,

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Speaker 7: Bryce young being out and you're just looking at the

720
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Speaker 7: run statistics from the last few weeks from this Panthers team,

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Speaker 7: I mean two hundred and ten yards, one hundred and

722
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Speaker 7: thirty nine yards, and they banged out another two hundred

723
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Speaker 7: and thirty yard game a few weeks back, like they

724
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Speaker 7: can hit the ground with that young man who came

725
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Speaker 7: over from the Cowboys, You're going to see ad a

726
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Speaker 7: defense that hasn't let up more than eighty yards rushing

727
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Speaker 7: the last three weeks. That's super impressive. So it'll be

728
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Speaker 7: two of the best things against one another. Right, a

729
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Speaker 7: very stout run defense against a very good running offense

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Speaker 7: with the Bills, and then you have a very live

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Speaker 7: run game with the Carolina Panthers. And then the last

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Speaker 7: thing I'll say is that if we don't see here

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Speaker 7: in the next few years Steve Tasker at least getting

734
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Speaker 7: somewhat sniff in the knot of the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 7: of Fame, I'm gonna throw something through.

736
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Speaker 3: The window here. You took it. You took a left

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Speaker 3: turn right at the end of your question, what.

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Speaker 7: I took a left turn here? But I thought it

739
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Speaker 7: might be pertinent to say because you deserved on. I

740
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Speaker 7: saw Steve talking about it a few days back, and

741
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Speaker 7: he got the kid fired up.

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Speaker 3: Oh there you go.

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Speaker 1: There are all right? All right? Look at him throwing bouquet.

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Speaker 3: What's at that?

745
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Speaker 1: What a guy?

746
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Speaker 3: All right, you can come back again next.

747
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Speaker 2: Week, Mitch, thanks for the time. As always, we will

748
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Speaker 2: catch up with you next week. Thanks for the time.

749
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Speaker 7: I appreciate you guys. Be good now.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Mitch Morris from the armchair, presented by

751
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Speaker 2: Raymore and Flannagan. Got some time to get back to

752
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 2: the phone here before we have to take a break,

753
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Speaker 2: So we're going to do that right now.

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Speaker 1: As we have been asking you today.

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Speaker 2: Where do you believe the Bills can most easily change

756
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Speaker 2: for the better?

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Speaker 1: To Rich in West senecon X, what's up rich?

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, So I'll make this quick. You know a

759
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Speaker 9: lot of Bills fans have been taken heat from both

760
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Speaker 9: the national and local media for their concerns about this team.

761
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Speaker 9: So when you take a look at the defense, we've

762
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Speaker 9: got two safeties that take bad tackling angles and even

763
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Speaker 9: when they get there, they're not making the tackle. We've

764
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Speaker 9: got a huge question mark at CB two. And I'll

765
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Speaker 9: tell you right now, Todavious White isn't Yeah, he's a

766
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Speaker 9: shell of what he used to be. We have undersized linebackers,

767
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Speaker 9: which is why they continue to get hurt. And I

768
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Speaker 9: think it's what's causing a lot of problems with the

769
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Speaker 9: running game. We're not getting a pass rush and it's

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Speaker 9: leaving the secondary even more vulnerable. And then on offense,

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Speaker 9: we don't have any speed at wide receivers, so it's

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Speaker 9: causing the cover two You know, actually a lot of

773
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Speaker 9: teams are running cover two man against us because they're

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Speaker 9: not worried about getting beat over.

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Speaker 5: The top.

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Speaker 9: So it's allowing the safeties to actually drop down in

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Speaker 9: the box. Mark my words. If something doesn't change and

778
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Speaker 9: be does to make a trade, we're gonna start running.

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Speaker 9: Game is going to suffer as a result of it,

780
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Speaker 9: because those safeties are going to start coming down and

781
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Speaker 9: making those tackles and then you know, Brady, you know,

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Speaker 9: the one thing I noticed in the Atlanta game is

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Speaker 9: I thought Babbage did a great job making adjustments at halftime.

784
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Speaker 9: Brady sucked. He did not make any adjustments, didn't do

785
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Speaker 9: anything to help out the offense. And the reason we

786
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Speaker 9: lost that game is because of his lack of creativity.

787
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Speaker 9: His schemes don't work. So that's why he's going to

788
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Speaker 9: trick plays. They don't work, and so I'll be real

789
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Speaker 9: interesting to see what they come out of this buy

790
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Speaker 9: with from an offensive standpoint. So for anybody in the

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Speaker 9: national or local media that's wondering why Bills fans are

792
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Speaker 9: concerned right now about the structure of this team and

793
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Speaker 9: frustrated with what Bean has and hasn't done in the

794
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 9: draft and free agency, there's a few things that you

795
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Speaker 9: can consider before you start banging on Bills stands and

796
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 9: the Mafia for being worried about this damn team.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Rich, thanks for that. I don't know who's banging

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Speaker 2: on Bill's mafia. Yeah, everybody has a right to their

799
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Speaker 2: opinion that follows this team. You have an opinion, say

800
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: it and if somebody has a problem with it, too

801
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Speaker 2: bad their opinion and you had your opinions.

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Speaker 8: Rich.

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Speaker 3: The national media is also I mean, they're dropping. They

804
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: dropped the The Bills dropped way down in the power

805
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Speaker 3: rankings after the bye during their bye week because other

806
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: teams look good and they played well and the Bills

807
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: didn't play at all. So there's a lot of national

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00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: media guys who were cooling on the Bills and chances

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this because the one thing that Rich said

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Speaker 2: about lack of speed on offense, I don't think that

812
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: fact is true. There is speed on the offense. Curtis

813
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Speaker 2: Samuel runs a four to three one. His problem is

814
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Speaker 2: availability and he's not used as a stretch the field

815
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Speaker 2: receiver very much. Palmer was used in that way, but

816
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: he has a week to week injury now with the

817
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Speaker 2: ankle injury suffered on Monday night at Atlanta, so that

818
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Speaker 2: could compromise things and it might thrust somebody like Curtis

819
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Speaker 2: Samuel into that deep stretch the field type receiver role.

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Speaker 2: Elijah Moore runs a four to three five that is

821
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Speaker 2: very good speed, but he also is used in the

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Speaker 2: short to intermediate area in the passing game. That's a

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Speaker 2: coaching decision. And then James Cook runs a four to

824
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Speaker 2: four to two and had the third fastest play from

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Speaker 2: scrimmage among running backs in the entire league last season

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Speaker 2: when he ripped off his sixty five yarder against San

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Speaker 2: Francisco in the snow. So the Bills do have speed

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Speaker 2: on offense. I think maybe your concern is the way

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Speaker 2: in which they utilize the speed they have at their disposal,

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Speaker 2: which I think if you want to make an argument

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Speaker 2: about you might have a leg to stand on defense.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how Steve feels, but to me, it's

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Speaker 2: a man power issue. They have been so riddled with injuries.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just think of who's on ir from the

835
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Speaker 2: draft class alone, their first round pick, their second round pick,

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Speaker 2: and their sixth round pick, who plays the same position

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Speaker 2: as their first round pick.

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Speaker 1: They're down two corners.

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Speaker 2: For the better part of a for half of the

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00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: season that's been played so far because of a neck

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00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: injury and a knee injury, and Sanders had knee injury

842
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: as well. So to me, they've been supremely shorthanded due

843
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: to injury on the defensive side of the ball, and

844
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Speaker 2: I think that's compromised their effectiveness with people in and

845
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Speaker 2: out of the lineup. The one thing he is right about, though,

846
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Speaker 2: is the mistackle rate of the safeties. It has been

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Speaker 2: a problem.

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Speaker 3: And you're right, defenses can adjust. If they don't feel

849
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: threatened deep, they're not going to cover it deep and

850
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 3: the safeties will drop down into the box and it

851
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: will show up in your run game. I'll say this,

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Speaker 3: though we said it before the game. Atlanta's a tough

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Speaker 3: matchup for everybody. They ran into a buzz saw in

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Speaker 3: San Francisco this last weekend. But that doesn't mean they

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00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: didn't play well. They did. They've got some guys over there.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, your point about the tackling and all of that,

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Speaker 3: and the fragility of when you go lighter on defense,

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00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 3: you get banged up, and that's been proven to be true.

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Speaker 3: It was that way back in the day when Dick

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Speaker 3: Giron was the head coach. His philosophy was small, light

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Speaker 3: and fast defenses. And they had nineteen guys on IR

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Speaker 3: so there's a little bit of truth to that as well.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break, but more of your phone calls

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Speaker 2: when we get back. We'll lead off with Ron and

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Speaker 2: Toronto and others holding a EIGHTO three ZHO five fifty.

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Speaker 2: Next here on one Bill's lock game day mentality is

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Speaker 2: presented by Best Self Behavioral Health, official mental health partner

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills, And for the Bills players, they

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Speaker 2: got to get back to being plugged in. You unplugged

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Speaker 2: for a few days during the bye week. You gotta

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Speaker 2: plug yourself back in. How do you make sure you're

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Speaker 2: ready to resume the regular seat in at a intense

873
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: and energetic level, Knowing especially Steve, they did not look

874
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: that way the last three games heading into the.

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Speaker 3: Bye I think you because of the leadership you plan

876
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: on it. Right you go away, you say I'm gonna

877
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 3: shut it down. But when I come back, I'm turning

878
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: it back on and we're gonna get into this and

879
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna take a step forward. And because

880
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: of leadership and the self scouting and the and the

881
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: things that they do in this that they see in

882
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: their own themselves, and the coaches will relate this to them. Hey, guys,

883
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: this is what we saw in the during the bye week.

884
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: We found out we're doing this and this and this

885
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: and this, and we got to do more of this,

886
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: less of that, and a little less of this other

887
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: thing too. We're gonna attack it and let's go. And

888
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: then when you have all everybody hearing that same message,

889
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: it's a lot of fun to take that step together,

890
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: you know, because you really do anticipate and improvement, You

891
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: really do anticipate. It's like, all right, this is gonna

892
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: make a difference. Let's go. And it does refurbish your

893
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 3: spirit a little bit to come back and jump back

894
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Speaker 3: into it with some tangible evidence that we're gonna get better.

895
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Speaker 2: Because if you watch this Carolina Panthers team, they play

896
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: a very physical brand of football on both.

897
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Speaker 1: Sides of the ball.

898
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Speaker 2: So you've got to bring it match that or even

899
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Speaker 2: better exceed it, otherwise it's gonna be, you know, a

900
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Speaker 2: mucked up, drag it out, rock him SOCCAM game for

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Speaker 2: most of the afternoon on Sunday. That is game day

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Speaker 1: Back to the phones we go and to Ron and Toronto.

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00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: What's up, ron, Oh, it's Ryan. Sorry, just reading the

905
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Speaker 1: name on the list here.

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Speaker 10: Thanks Ryan, listen, Hey Steve. In my books, you're Hall

907
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 10: of Famer man, honestly, and I'm'm gonna call these on

908
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 10: Tuesdays cast a tuesdays perd.

909
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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't.

910
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 10: Later on. Maybe Danman hasn't pulled on the Hall of

911
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 10: Fame WoDES get him on your side. I call your

912
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 10: guys to be honest, I'm really concerned. I'm confused about

913
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 10: the sparty on the ball. You know, when the ball

914
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 10: uh uh, and then replace this on the goal line.

915
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 10: When the ball costs the goal line, right, it's called

916
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 10: it's a touchdown. There's that same rule of pr and

917
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,959
Speaker 10: uh for a first down.

918
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: Yes, it should the tip of the ball gets to

919
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: the line to gain and that should be a first

920
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: down exactly.

921
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 10: Yes. So last night Baker went for a fourth and

922
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 10: one ball clearly crossed the line, but they came back

923
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 10: and said, no, it's shut but down at the end zone.

924
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 10: That would have been a touchdown. Correct.

925
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, unless they officiated the same way and deemed

926
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Speaker 2: that he did not reach it, even though when everybody

927
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Speaker 2: at home could clearly see that he did Ryan Ryan.

928
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately we see this still too much of the time.

929
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a tick attack. It's a subjective because it

930
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 10: was called at that first down on the field, Dan

931
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 10: Cambi said, came back and said, no, he was short.

932
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Speaker 10: Even you a toy Yikman and Jill buck are confused,

933
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Speaker 10: like this is like, what's the point of happen replay?

934
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Speaker 8: Then?

935
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it's when two sane people look at

936
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: the same video see two different things. That's always going

937
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Speaker 3: to be the problem.

938
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Speaker 10: They even had and loose animals come in. That's yeah,

939
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Speaker 10: that's a first down.

940
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's they're gonna miss it. I get it,

941
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Speaker 3: I get it.

942
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Speaker 10: I'm Primetime TV on Primetime TV. And they were all

943
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Speaker 10: let the Steen points that could have you know what

944
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Speaker 10: they might have been down, they would go to first downs.

945
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Speaker 10: Who knows, they might have just got to touchdowns. They

946
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Speaker 10: would have been down by one point.

947
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Speaker 3: Yes, you're right right that the ripple effects that you're of,

948
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: what you're talking about go well beyond just the spot

949
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Speaker 3: of the ball. You're right though, you never know what's

950
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: gonna happen subsequent to that. But that lets you know

951
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Speaker 3: also how tough it is for the officials on the field.

952
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Speaker 3: It happens like at light speed. They just come in,

953
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Speaker 3: they get it, and they get it right pretty close

954
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Speaker 3: to being right. And I'll say this, they're never exactly right.

955
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Speaker 3: And then they put it down. Then if you watch,

956
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Speaker 3: the center comes up, grabs the ball and moves it

957
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Speaker 3: all over the place before he snaps it. So so

958
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Speaker 3: the neutral zone on off sides changes even then. So

959
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 3: it's while it's a game of inches, there seems to

960
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 3: be times and moments where it's all messed up and

961
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Speaker 3: it's it's impossible to get right, which.

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Speaker 2: Brings to mind, you know this whole thing with hawkeye technology,

963
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: which is not spotting the ball, it's just verifying the

964
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Speaker 2: placement of the ball and whether or not it has

965
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Speaker 2: reached a first down.

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Speaker 3: It's irrelevant, I have I.

967
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Speaker 2: Have almost I've seen one example of that in six

968
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Speaker 2: Bills games being utilized.

969
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: They're not even using that.

970
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: It's it's irrelevant because it's the spot of the ball

971
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Speaker 3: where that's the official spotted they spot it, and and

972
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Speaker 3: then it's like anybody can see it. You know, you

973
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: don't need technology for that.

974
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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get it.

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Speaker 3: Does I'll say this, you never see him bring the

976
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Speaker 3: chains out anymore.

977
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Speaker 2: No, they're supposed to use Hawkeye technology, and they do

978
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: get that, but usually you see it on the scoreboard

979
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Speaker 2: in the building because they put the animation up to

980
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Speaker 2: show you it's three inches short or it's over.

981
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Speaker 1: The line and it's a first down or whatever.

982
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Speaker 3: That's the only thing it's done.

983
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Speaker 1: I don't it's barely being used.

984
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Speaker 3: That's the only thing.

985
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it more than once or twice the

986
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Speaker 1: whole season.

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Speaker 3: It's like everything though, if they're using it and it

988
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 3: works right, you don't notice it. Forget it. That's and

989
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: that's the way it is. This the Hawkeye technology has

990
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 3: just stopped that old tradition of dragging the show the

991
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 3: old guys.

992
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: Hopefully the use of a credit card every certain instance.

993
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: You never see that anymore. That's what the Hawkeye's done.

994
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: It's speeded up the game by what fifteen seconds per

995
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: every three games.

996
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: And it's still not it's still far from perfect because

997
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: humans are still spotting the ball. Just like the AFC

998
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: Championship game last year, the Bucks victimized last night.

999
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: That's just like just like Josh getting them getting the

1000
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 3: first down on the on the quarterback sneak and neck

1001
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: and not giving it to him, and then and not

1002
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: only one guy giving it to him, then the other

1003
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Speaker 3: guy taking it away.

1004
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Okay, gotta take a break here as we're

1005
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Speaker 2: up against it. When we come back, our number two

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00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: begins with our good friend dan Or Alofski ESPN NFL

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00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: analyst gonna break down some Bills Panthers in this matchup

1008
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: coming up and what he believes could be changed for

1009
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: the better by the Bills. Here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: These one Bills Lives presented by Kalida Health.

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00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: All Right, our number two here on a Tuesday, and

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Speaker 2: that can mean only one thing. ESPN NFL analyst dan

1015
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: Orlowski joins us. His appearances on One Bills Live are

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Speaker 2: presented by Caesars Sportsbook and official mobile sports betting partner

1017
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. All Right, Dan, the Bills are

1018
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: coming off the buy here already had a practice on

1019
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: Monday and to no one's surprise, pounding the fundamentals.

1020
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: You know, tackling has been an issue.

1021
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 2: On defense, as you well know you saw at firsthand

1022
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: in the Monday night game against the Falcons. A couple

1023
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 2: of weeks back, they're twenty sixth the first down defense.

1024
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 2: They're giving up over six yards of play on first

1025
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: down alone on defense, So takeaways aren't coming nearly as

1026
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 2: frequently as they did last year or even the year before.

1027
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: They do not have a game yet and when they

1028
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: have more than one takeaway. So I guess the question

1029
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: I want to pose to you defensively, what is something

1030
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: that can easily be changed for the better going forward

1031
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: in terms of that defensive performance.

1032
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 8: Well, I think, Chris, the answer obviously is health.

1033
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 11: You know that, you know, having your best players healthy

1034
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 11: goes a long way in this league, right That's so

1035
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 11: much more impactable and important than schematics, I think after

1036
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 11: I mean, we are just about halfway through the season

1037
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 11: in the NFL right now, and you know, take it

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00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 11: from me who because of the job, I watch every

1039
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 11: single snap in the whole league, and I would tell

1040
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 11: you the teams that are playing well defensively, it's a

1041
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 11: very simple thing that they are one getting off blocks

1042
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 11: and then two tackling very well in space both individually

1043
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 11: and population to the football.

1044
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 8: And so you know that's something that.

1045
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 11: I tell you a couple of years ago was probably

1046
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 11: not as prevalent with really good defenses it is right now.

1047
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 11: And if you can't do that, you're you're going to

1048
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 11: struggle just because of the style of offenses that are

1049
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 11: getting played right now.

1050
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 8: And so I think the healthier they they can get,

1051
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 8: the better. Two. You know, the defensive line is not.

1052
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 11: Getting off blocks right, and so I think, you know,

1053
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 11: just from an offensive perspective, if I was playing against

1054
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 11: the defense that was struggling getting off blocks, we're just

1055
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 11: constantly trying to create double teams on you to push

1056
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 11: to change the line of scrimmage. And then what I

1057
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 11: would expect would be for you defensively to do one

1058
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 11: of two things. You'd either bring more people to the

1059
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 11: football so drop people down, you know, and play a

1060
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 11: more singleized safety, or you'd have to get into run

1061
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 11: stunts where you're stunting and moving those defensive line to

1062
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 11: try to create angles for them. And so I think

1063
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 11: those are two things that are worthy of having the

1064
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 11: conversation about, you know, with with Buffalo's defenses, are they

1065
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 11: willing to play a little bit more of a loaded

1066
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 11: box against certain teams right and having people closer to

1067
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 11: the football, or are they willing to move the defensive

1068
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 11: line a little bit more and have run stunts. I

1069
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 11: think a lot of teams are going to the latter.

1070
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 11: A lot of teams are going to more and more

1071
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 11: run stunts where they're trying to move defensive linemen after

1072
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 11: snap and flow linebackers over the football. And so I

1073
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 11: would say that is probably the thing that at least

1074
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 11: and when it comes to the specifics of defending the

1075
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 11: run a little bit better on early downs and tackling

1076
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 11: better in space that I think health but also just

1077
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 11: how do they want to try and schematically change them

1078
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 11: things up.

1079
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Speaker 3: I know, everything looks a little bit more cloudy when

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00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: you're coming off a two game losing streak like the

1081
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 3: Bills have done. Have you noticed anything about their offense,

1082
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: particularly Josh or anybody else, that is a lot different

1083
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: than what you have seen in the past.

1084
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Speaker 11: So I would say this, and everyone knows how highly

1085
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Speaker 11: I think of Joe Brady, I do think that Joe

1086
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Speaker 11: has at times, specifically in the last two weeks, kind

1087
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Speaker 11: of lost sight of the identity that he created for

1088
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 11: this football team, you know, And I'll go back to

1089
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 11: a little bit of that Atlanta game and just you.

1090
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 8: Know, it's a very clear understanding.

1091
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 11: When you're playing a defense that's built on speed and

1092
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 11: pass rush, you don't let him play fast and pass rush.

1093
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 11: And they didn't really do that, and so that the

1094
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 11: drop back game and the the at the.

1095
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 8: Line of scrimmage pass game was taken away.

1096
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 11: And instead of turning around the hand the ball to

1097
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 11: James Cook and allowing that offensive line just to dominate

1098
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 11: the line of scrimmage, you know, it got you know,

1099
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 11: kind of took you or you thought you could outthink

1100
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 11: or outscheme the speed. And so I think getting back

1101
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 11: to the true nature of when he took over in

1102
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 11: what the clear objective was going to be big deal,

1103
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 11: you know. And I'd also say that I've talked about,

1104
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 11: you know, Keon's got to take a step forward.

1105
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 8: He just has to.

1106
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 11: And if Kean is not going to be a guy

1107
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 11: that is going to go whip people on routes, I'd

1108
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 11: like to see them get Keon going laterally a little

1109
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 11: bit more candidly. You know, we know he's got a

1110
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 11: big frame and he can win some of those jump balls,

1111
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 11: but I'd like to see him get laterally on some

1112
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 11: schemes and maybe get the you know, the ball in

1113
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 11: his hands a little bit more often in the past

1114
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 11: concept Shakers got to touch it a little bit earlier

1115
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 11: on in their past game. Obviously, Kinkaid coming back is healthy.

1116
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 11: But you know, as much as I think their past

1117
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 11: game is really cool, you know if I would be

1118
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 11: floored if they did not come out and give James

1119
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 11: Cook eight to ten touches in that first quarter.

1120
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: By the same token, this matchup is looking a lot

1121
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: like the one the Buffalo run game had a couple

1122
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: of weeks ago against New England.

1123
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, a really good.

1124
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: Run front, strength on strength, and that's kind of what

1125
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: Carolina is. They haven't given up more than eighty yards

1126
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: rushing I think the last three weeks so earn their

1127
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 2: last three games. So what what do you see there

1128
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: that the going to have to contend with? You know,

1129
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: Derrick Brown is an obvious thing that sticks out like

1130
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: a sore thumb, But what what do they have to

1131
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: contend with their with respect to Carolina's run front.

1132
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I think the two things in Carolina's run

1133
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 11: game that stand out, or Buffalo is going to see

1134
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 11: more abnormal defensive line movement than they have all season long.

1135
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 11: Carolina does a lot of kind of abnormal, unique defensive

1136
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 11: line movements. Like when I was talking about run stunts,

1137
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 11: everybody in the league just moves at once, right, like

1138
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 11: it's we all slant. They'll almost do like run games.

1139
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 11: You know, in the in the bass game, we often

1140
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 11: see like two defensive tackles kind of make that X

1141
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 11: type of motion or scissors motion, and Hickey, they do

1142
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 11: that in their run game, and so you know that

1143
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 11: that creates just a lot of chaos. And so from

1144
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 11: an offensive perspective, if you're Buffalo, it's like what scheme

1145
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 11: number one?

1146
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 8: Do feel can handle that?

1147
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 11: Initially, that's their duo game, right, you just want to

1148
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 11: get those double teams going and try the deadline of scrimmage,

1149
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 11: and then there's moments when you try to kill it.

1150
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 11: Like there's some moments when you try to take advantage

1151
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 11: of it, because the reality is if two guys are

1152
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 11: stunting or whatnot and you pin one, then the gap

1153
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 11: is going to be huge, and so trying to take

1154
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 11: advantage of that. It's a little bit Kansas City style

1155
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 11: as well. A couple of years ago Buffalo has had

1156
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 11: success in that regard, but it's a very chaotic, very

1157
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 11: movement based the defensive line that just tries to create

1158
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 11: on early downs, violence and disruption. I think the second

1159
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 11: thing attached to this defense, Chris, is it's a really

1160
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 11: good man coverage unit.

1161
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 12: You know, j C.

1162
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 11: Horn is one of the best corners in football. Michael

1163
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 11: Jackson playing opposite in him is playing big, physical hands

1164
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 11: on pretty aggressive man carverage. And so you know, for

1165
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 11: a team in Carolina that's had this resurgence, Ope, I

1166
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 11: Gotta move has had this resurgence, it's way more.

1167
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 8: About there we go. It's way more about.

1168
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 11: Partly because how good they're defense has been and how

1169
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 11: active it's been.

1170
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: All Right, let's get back. Let's get a little more

1171
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 3: specific here. We got a game coming up against Carolina,

1172
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: and you, being a former quarterback, Andy Dalton may get

1173
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 3: the start over Bryce Young. Bryce got a high ankle.

1174
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 3: It might be a little gamesmanship, but it looks like

1175
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 3: we're gonna see Andy Dalton at the helm. What does

1176
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 3: that mean for Carolina to their offense? How much will

1177
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 3: they change now? With him taking all the reps during

1178
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 3: the week, gives him a chance to get in. He's

1179
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 3: a wily veteran, He's done this before. How much do

1180
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 3: they change their offense for Andy Dalton.

1181
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, I really don't think Steve, they'll change it schematically,

1182
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 11: munch it. This is a really good offensive line. It's

1183
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 11: a big, mauling offensive line. They play with multiple tight ends.

1184
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 11: They got receivers that are willing to block. They like

1185
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 11: their gap scheme runs, meaning you know, trying to pin

1186
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 11: people down and pull people around. So schematically, I don't

1187
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 11: think it changes that much.

1188
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 8: They got a really.

1189
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 11: Nice perimeter player in Jimmy Warren that they try to

1190
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 11: get the football to.

1191
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 8: Jimmy Horns. He's not Khalil.

1192
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 11: Shit here, but they use him in that type of mindset,

1193
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 11: like how many different ways can we just get him

1194
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 11: the ball in space.

1195
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 8: The young receiver they drafted out of Arizona Tech McMillan's awesome.

1196
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 11: I mean he's he's outstanding with his feel in space,

1197
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 11: and he's got great hands, and he goes and tracks

1198
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 11: the football really well. And Lagett is another big body receiver.

1199
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 11: The biggest difference is this Brice has been really good

1200
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 11: at extending plays. He's been plays alive and he's been

1201
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 11: deadly at it in the red zone. And I think

1202
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 11: he's got four or five touchdowns this year doing just that,

1203
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 11: where you know, he's able to hang on to the

1204
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 11: football for a little bit and that gotta have a

1205
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 11: situation or that red zone spacing, and you know, his

1206
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 11: kind of suddenness and athleticism has led to touchdowns and

1207
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 11: not field goals, and so that's probably the biggest thing.

1208
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,959
Speaker 11: You know, this offensive line has not been a great

1209
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 11: pass protecting line in Carolina, but he's covered up for

1210
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 11: at a lot of it. And so you know, if

1211
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 11: that could be an advantage for Buffalo not having to

1212
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 11: deal with the creativity of Bryce Young. It's a pass rusher,

1213
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 11: a pass protection unit that hasn't been great.

1214
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: Okay, and then just looking at Buffalo's offense, I know

1215
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: you said you're expecting, you know, a lot of cookwork.

1216
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: Early.

1217
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: We've had callers and fans wondering why Cook isn't a

1218
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: bigger part of the passing game. He's got twelve catches

1219
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 2: on the season for eighty nine yards, and I think

1220
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,479
Speaker 2: everybody realizes he's not the designated third down back.

1221
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: That's Ty Johnson. Yeah, but is.

1222
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: There a place in your mind for a player of

1223
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: that caliber to maybe be on the field also on

1224
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 2: third down if he's not the primary pass protector in

1225
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: the backfield.

1226
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, My instal answer is I'd ask every Buffalo Bills

1227
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,479
Speaker 11: fan to give me the three best players on their offense, right,

1228
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 11: and he would be in that grouping.

1229
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 8: And so now you want.

1230
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 11: Those Threeyers to touch the football as many times as

1231
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 11: they can within the game. It's always kind of game

1232
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 11: plans centric as well. You know, if you're playing a

1233
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 11: team that has relatively exotic pressures and you know, communications

1234
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 11: at the forefront by the back and his ability to

1235
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 11: kind of see the defense and the blitz distribute and

1236
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 11: the ability and the patience and the way that he

1237
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 11: works with the offensive line to pick up that pressure,

1238
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 11: you want that guy on the field. So if Hi,

1239
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 11: Johnson's better at that, and my guess and the tape

1240
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 11: says he is, if it's a defense that you're going

1241
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 11: to be seeing that stuff against and the protection is

1242
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 11: the starting point.

1243
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 8: But you know, I do think.

1244
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 11: That there's moments and opportunities where listen, I'm not telling

1245
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 11: everybody that James Cook is you know, a Vjon Robinson

1246
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 11: or a Christian McCaffrey, but I think he can be

1247
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 11: accessed in similar ways.

1248
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 8: I think that is ability to.

1249
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 11: Not only run the football but be utilized in a

1250
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 11: you know, a space game, a pass catching game, a

1251
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 11: ball to the perimeter game, a screen game. I do

1252
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 11: think is something that I would expect to have a

1253
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 11: little bit more of an uptick, just because you know,

1254
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 11: if you're creating space, you're creating space for your best players.

1255
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 8: He certainly is one of them. So maybe it's not

1256
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 8: third down Chris.

1257
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 11: Maybe if there's opportunities to get him in the past

1258
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 11: game involved on first and or second down rather than

1259
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 11: third and eight.

1260
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 8: And you got to be elite at pass protection.

1261
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 3: How much pressure do the Carolina Panthers generate both with

1262
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 3: extra guys on the blitz or with their front four.

1263
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's more extra guys in those past situations. They

1264
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 11: you know, their defensive coordinator, as Zio Everro is a

1265
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 11: big like, I'm trying to create one on ones because

1266
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 11: they got talented pass rushers. They've got a young kid

1267
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 11: out of South Carolina score and who's a really good

1268
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 11: one on one pass rusher as well, And so they're

1269
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 11: just trying to create one on ones.

1270
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 8: And they trust their coverage unit. That's the big thing.

1271
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 8: Jimmy J. C. Horn's elite man.

1272
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 11: Coverage corner elite, you know, And so that that it

1273
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 11: will be a matchup to pay attention to, is who

1274
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 11: is he following? How is that matchup going? But they're

1275
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 11: they're it's not this overwhelming like four guys off a

1276
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 11: side pressure. It's more one on one pick game, one

1277
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 11: on one pick game, one on one win, one on

1278
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 11: one overload, and so you know, if they're in obvious

1279
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 11: passing situations, they'll be across the board Buffalo stressed one

1280
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 11: on ones.

1281
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: Dan, thanks as always, we appreciate the time. We'll catch

1282
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 2: up with you next week see on Tuesday.

1283
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 8: Thanks guys.

1284
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: All right, that's Dan Orlowski joining us his appearances on

1285
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: one Bills Live presented by Caesar's Sportsbook.

1286
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm very.

1287
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: Interested to see another strength on strength type matchup here

1288
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: Bills with the number one rushing offense in football, Carolina

1289
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 2: a top ten run defense and really playing well the

1290
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 2: last few weeks. Albeit they did play against a Dallas

1291
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 2: team that can't run the football and Jets team they

1292
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: can't run the football the last two outings, so that's

1293
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: probably it probably needs to be taken with a grain

1294
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: of salt to some degree, but still in all, they

1295
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: are a top ten run defense and they play a

1296
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: physical brand up front, So you're gonna have to mash

1297
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: with those guys and get yards in the run game.

1298
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 2: We know it did not go particularly well three weeks

1299
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: ago when the Patriots came in here with a number

1300
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: two run defense in football, and while Cook had a

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Speaker 2: few runs here and there, they largely kept him in check.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean, it's gonna be a test. This

1303
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Speaker 3: is this is not a you know, bad Carolina team.

1304
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 3: They're in a three game winning streak. In fact, coming

1305
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 3: in here now certainly beating the Jets at the end

1306
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 3: of it is you know, is nothing to write home about.

1307
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 3: But they're they beat who they beat? Was it the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: Beat the Jets?

1309
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Speaker 2: Jets on the road, the Cowboys, they shut out that

1310
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 2: Falcons thirty and to enough, that's right, that's right. So

1311
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 2: they lost to the Commanders.

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Speaker 3: No, they were zero and four, and then they're on

1313
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 3: a three game heater. So they're playing better and they're

1314
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 3: probably starting to feel better about what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: So that's to me.

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Speaker 3: This is a game with an unfamiliar opponent. I don't

1317
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 3: think there's any residue for Sean McDermott going back to

1318
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 3: Caroline or any of these guys, I don't think any

1319
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 3: of that hasn't anything. It's a storyline, of course, because

1320
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 3: McDermott was their offensive or defensive coordinator for six years.

1321
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 3: You know, I just don't think that's an issue for

1322
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 3: this game. This is coming off a bye week. This

1323
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 3: Bills team should come out a little bit refurbished and

1324
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 3: with some stuff that the Carolina Panthers aren't ready for,

1325
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 3: and it'll be up to them to adapt really quickly.

1326
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Speaker 2: It was interesting when I asked Dan our topic of

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01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 2: discussion today, which is where do you believe the Bills

1328
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: can most easily change for the better? And I asked

1329
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: him on the defensive side of the ball, and he

1330
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 2: said get healthy.

1331
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: So he too sees the.

1332
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: Manpower problem right now due to injury, and obviously getting

1333
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 2: Hoyd and Ogan Joey back will help in that regard.

1334
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 2: If you can get Harston back too for a trifecta

1335
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: in one week, that would be outstanding. Well, we're asking

1336
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: you as well, where do you believe the Bills can

1337
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 2: most easily change for the better coming out of the

1338
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 2: buy eight oh three five fifty one eight eight five

1339
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty Let's go to Mark and West

1340
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Speaker 2: senecon Nex.

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Speaker 1: What's up Mark, Hey, guys.

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Speaker 13: I'll try and make this quick. This might not a

1343
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 13: little felt surving because you guys have talked about pretty

1344
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 13: much everything. But on the defensive side of the ball,

1345
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 13: my thing is tackling in space. Tackling by dbs. I

1346
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 13: think we can get fifty percent better if they just

1347
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 13: start bringing guys down after the catch and stop giving

1348
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 13: up chunk plays after the catch. I don't know that

1349
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 13: we've got dbs that can cover better over the course

1350
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 13: of the season without an outstanding pass rush. Maybe we

1351
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 13: can get, but that that's one thing. Offensively. I think

1352
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 13: Dan sort of touched on it a little bit. I

1353
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 13: think Joe Brady is already get a little bit lost

1354
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 13: in the everybody eats mentality. And I say that because

1355
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 13: of this. Joe, when he came in, sort of discovered

1356
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 13: our running game, and he showed a penchant over since

1357
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 13: he came in till now to find what works in

1358
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 13: a game and then stick with it. And now I

1359
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 13: get the feeling sometimes that he's so concerned about spreading

1360
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 13: the ball around all the time that he doesn't really

1361
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 13: stick And in particular the running game, I mean that

1362
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 13: Falcons game was crying out to run the ball down

1363
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 13: their throat, and we just did not do that. So

1364
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 13: that that's the other thing on offense and the real

1365
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:43,839
Speaker 13: quick Chris, I'm so glad you addressed the speed factor

1366
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 13: in the wide receiver corps. You know, there's such a

1367
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 13: thing as football speed and then track and field speed.

1368
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 13: And when you're playing football and you run a four

1369
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 13: to three to two or four to three three, and

1370
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 13: another guy who runs a four to three nine, that's

1371
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 13: not that much different. O. And we got guys that

1372
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 13: are in the four and threes across the board for

1373
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 13: the most part, as long as they can get open,

1374
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,839
Speaker 13: they can scheck guys up in their brakes and stuff.

1375
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 13: They have more than enough sufficient speed. And then the

1376
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 13: last thing is, I'm really tired of people calling up

1377
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 13: and saying, why can't we get a defensive lineman who

1378
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 13: can rush the passer? People do? They just totally dismiss

1379
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 13: where we draft every year and we're expecting to find,

1380
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 13: you know, a blue chip guy at twenty seven, twenty eight,

1381
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 13: twenty nine that you typically find at four, five and six.

1382
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 13: And you know, it gets to be tiring to listening

1383
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 13: to that all the time. And you know, Brandon's doing

1384
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 13: the best he can. He's trying to find that guy

1385
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 13: and unless he gets you gotta admit, unless he gets

1386
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 13: a little bit lucky down there, it's really hard to do.

1387
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 13: And the two hardest things to find is a franchise

1388
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 13: quarterback and a pass rushing guy who can do it

1389
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 13: down in and down out. Those are my thoughts today, guys,

1390
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 13: Thanks so.

1391
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 1: Much, Thanks Mark. Yeah, I mean you're right, there is

1392
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: speed on offense.

1393
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: I would say, if you have a problem with the

1394
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 2: speed on the team, there's probably less of it on defense.

1395
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: Than you have on offense.

1396
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 2: So if you want to make an argument on not

1397
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: enough speed on this roster, I would point to the

1398
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball because really, Max Hairston is

1399
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: probably the only guy with elite speed at any position

1400
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: on that side of the ball. So if you want

1401
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: to talk speed, I think that's the side of the

1402
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 2: ball you would look at.

1403
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: Excuse me, and then you're right.

1404
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: With the mistackle stuff, it is a problem. There are

1405
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: a lot of different ways to measure mistackle percentage, and

1406
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 2: it is a little bit subjective. The latest numbers I

1407
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 2: saw or the Bills are twenty third in the league

1408
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 2: in mistackles.

1409
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: But here's the bigger number. When they do misatackle, they give.

1410
01:11:55,320 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 2: Up the fourth highest average yards after a mistackle. Well,

1411
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 2: now that might be a little inflated by the eighty

1412
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: one yard or by Bijan Last in the last game,

1413
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: but it points to a problem that goes beyond just

1414
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 2: missing the tackle. Even when one guy misses the tackle,

1415
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: where's the next guy rallying to the football to get

1416
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 2: that guy on the ground because the first guy missed him.

1417
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 2: When you have the fourth highest average yards after a misstackle,

1418
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: it's an indication that you're not rallying to the football enough.

1419
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's Dan said it, and I've said it

1420
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 3: a bunch on this show too. The best defenses are

1421
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: the ones where the first guy to the football makes

1422
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 3: the tackle. Those are the best defenses. It's all nothing else.

1423
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 3: It's not pass rushes. The first guy to the football

1424
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 3: makes the tackle, no extra yards, none of that. That's

1425
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 3: always the best defense in the league.

1426
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 2: Yep, gotta take a break here, but more of your

1427
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: phone calls when we return. As we're asking you, where

1428
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: do you believe the Bills can most easily change for

1429
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 2: the better? Eight h three five fifty one eighty eight, five,

1430
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty those the numbers to join us

1431
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: next here one Bill's Live Time Now for this week's

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Speaker 2: Coach of the Week, presented by Legends Global Merchandise. For

1433
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,919
Speaker 2: Week seven and Section six, it's Jerry Smith from Saint Francis.

1434
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: He led his Red Raiders to a fifty nine thirty

1435
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 2: five win over Bishop Time in last week. With the victory,

1436
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 2: coach Smith has totaled two hundred career wins. He's been

1437
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 2: the coach at Saint Francis since nineteen eighty one. In

1438
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: Section five, East Rochester, Gnandez tim Rose takes home this

1439
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 2: week's honor after leading his team to a come from

1440
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: behind victory over Wellsville Genesee Valley Belfast to improve to

1441
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 2: five and two on the season. Each coach will receive

1442
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars.

1443
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 1: For their program.

1444
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,839
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Where do you believe the Bills can most easily

1445
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: change for the better? Coming out of the buy you

1446
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 2: let us know at eight oh three h five fifty

1447
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 2: open lines for you there, but you Tom on the

1448
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 2: west side, we go.

1449
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: What's up?

1450
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 2: Tom?

1451
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 5: Good afternoon, gentlemen. I would like to say first, I

1452
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 5: want to start with yesterday the guy was saying he

1453
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 5: wanted more nasty people on the Bills. Who do you

1454
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 5: want that guy from Miami that got kicked out of

1455
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 5: the game against Buffalo because he was fighting with a fan,

1456
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 5: Or do you want green Law that got kicked out

1457
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 5: of the game next week because he was running after

1458
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 5: a ref and threatening him. I mean, you don't want

1459
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 5: those kind of people on the team. But anyway, as

1460
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 5: far as today's question, well, yesterday again, I want to

1461
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 5: see Hoyt put pressure and hold the edge, and I

1462
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 5: want to see Ogan Jobi get the pressure. That's what

1463
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 5: I want to see out of them. So now here's today.

1464
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 5: I think the Bill should switch to a four to three.

1465
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 5: They could play Hoyt at linebacker. Bigger rush them if

1466
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 5: they want with them, But we got to have the

1467
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 5: stout men up front, and that would free up Taron

1468
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 5: Johnson to help cover in the nickel. Okay, but well

1469
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 5: he wouldn't be playing nickel, but it would give you

1470
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 5: another cornerback. Now, as far as Dan Orlovsky was talking

1471
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 5: about and everybody, you gotta stretch the field. Even if

1472
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 5: you don't have man beaters out there, they gotta at

1473
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 5: least respect you. And when you do that, it stretches

1474
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 5: the field and then they can't fill the box and

1475
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 5: hone in on the run. What say you?

1476
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, Tom A lot there.

1477
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: I will tell you the Bills are playing more for

1478
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: to three defense than they have in years. Twenty seven

1479
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: percent of their snaps this season on defense have been

1480
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 2: in a base four to three front, So they are

1481
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 2: turning to it more. And it's largely predicated on teams

1482
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: using heavy personnel against them, like twelve and thirteen personnel,

1483
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 2: So they put three linebackers on the field.

1484
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: That's their counter.

1485
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: And they've done that twenty seven percent of the snaps

1486
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 2: this season, which is the highest it's been perhaps at

1487
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 2: any point in the McDermott era. I'd have to go

1488
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 2: back and look to be certain, but I would venture

1489
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 2: to guess it's top two since they drafted Terran, Yeah,

1490
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: which was twenty eighteen. So that's part one. You want

1491
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 2: to address his other stuff.

1492
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 3: Like, well, yeah, Ogin, Hoby enjoyed, Ogan Joby and Hoyt. Wow.

1493
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 3: Easy for you to say, yeah, you'd like to see

1494
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: those guys contributing show up on Sunday. That's absolutely And

1495
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 3: I get it. I've always said and I have tell

1496
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 3: Brownie this all the time off the air. You need

1497
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 3: some guys that you just hope show up on time

1498
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 3: that don't care. You know, those guys that if there

1499
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 3: is a fight on the field, they are trying to

1500
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 3: be in the middle of it, if they're not already

1501
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 3: starting it. You need some guy this set a physical

1502
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 3: and aggressive tone for your football team. You like guys

1503
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 3: like that. Now, certainly you don't want them to be

1504
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 3: the guy chasing the ref off the field, or the

1505
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: guy fighting with the fans or any of that other stuff. Yeah,

1506
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 3: you don't want them, you know, getting arrested or being

1507
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 3: in the newspaper for the wrong reasons away from the field.

1508
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 3: But you need guys that.

1509
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 2: Are aggressive, believe they're the toughest son of a gun

1510
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: on the entire field.

1511
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 3: Not only they well yeah, not only they believe they

1512
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 3: want to prove at every play. Yeah, and you need

1513
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 3: some guys like that. Yes, it does help to have

1514
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 3: guys like that on your team. But you're right, you

1515
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 3: don't want donkeys.

1516
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 1: And sometimes there's a fine line there.

1517
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 3: Sometimes there's a fine line.

1518
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: To Mike in Orchard Park next, what's up, Mike.

1519
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 14: Hey, guys, thanks for having me on I'll just give

1520
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 14: right to the point I thought. I thought when you

1521
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 14: guys had.

1522
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 12: Mitch on earlier, man, he brought some great insight of

1523
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 12: kind of where McDermott is at after the buy, and

1524
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 12: you know, like I just need a team to come

1525
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 12: out fired up, like I would like to see the

1526
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,440
Speaker 12: team take this under underdog mentality defensively.

1527
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 14: You see too many times that it seems like the

1528
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 14: calls by differ munication level, Like we're still trying to

1529
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 14: get guys and spots, still making calls as you know,

1530
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 14: the offense is hiking the ball. So I was like,

1531
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 14: I'm not sure if Molonal's gonna come back, our TV

1532
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 14: is gonna be back, but I'm hoping that we can,

1533
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 14: you know, get our communications straight on that side of

1534
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 14: the ball and then offensively with Joe Brady, I just

1535
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 14: want us to go back to where we were last year.

1536
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 14: Like I don't want us getting cute.

1537
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 5: On third, third and short, fourth and short.

1538
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 14: I want to see us as pounding the hammer euston

1539
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 14: James Cook more like there's more things that we're just

1540
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 14: not putting on tape right now that we're just not

1541
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 14: showing with Joe Brady, So yeah, I like I think

1542
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 14: it's real simple, and I'm hoping dermott, can, you know,

1543
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 14: type these guys up and ready to go, man, cause

1544
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 14: like this is gonna be a flight this year and

1545
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 14: we don't we can't have time to waste, and I

1546
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 14: just want I want to see execution and domination this

1547
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 14: ull cooming weekend.

1548
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Steve and I have talked about that, Mike,

1549
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 2: and thanks for the call. It just hasn't looked buttoned up,

1550
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 2: like attention to detail, sweating the details, crossing the t's

1551
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 2: dot in the eyes, whatever expression you want to use.

1552
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 2: It just hasn't looked air tight, which is what we've

1553
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 2: become accustomed to seeing from McDermott coach teams. And I

1554
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: would imagine they were pounding that, you know, in the

1555
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 2: early going this week, in the meetings and presumably on

1556
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 2: the practice field tomorrow.

1557
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 3: It's impossible to look like a good football team when

1558
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 3: you're getting ten penalties a game and you're turning it over.

1559
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 3: They just look sloppy. That's what it looks like. Whether

1560
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 3: the turnovers are their fault or not, or whatever the

1561
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 3: penalties and whether they're tiki tak or whether some of

1562
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 3: they're unjustified, whatever, doesn't matter. It looks awful when you're

1563
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 3: getting ten plus penalties every game and your turn and

1564
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 3: over multiple times, it just looks terrible. And that's where

1565
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 3: they're sitting in these last couple of weeks. And you

1566
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 3: can look the New England game. The three turnovers and

1567
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 3: the penalties were the difference in that game. They were

1568
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 3: the difference. It was a three point game field goal

1569
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 3: with under a minute beat you. There's no question that

1570
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 3: you did it to yourself. And that's when you start

1571
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 3: to like, okay, hey, yeah, to show up ready, right,

1572
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 3: And then they you know, they went into Atlanta and

1573
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 3: ran into a really motivated team who was very talented,

1574
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 3: and they played better, but the Bill still turned it

1575
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 3: over and they got a ton of penalties. It's impossible

1576
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 3: to look like a good football team in those In

1577
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,799
Speaker 3: that situation, you did it to yourself.

1578
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: And as for Terrell Bernard and made Milano, obviously will

1579
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: know more about their status tomorrow. But when coach McDermott

1580
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 2: last spoke about the injuries last week, he filed Torell

1581
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 2: Bernard with the ankle injury and mad Milana with his

1582
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 2: peck injury under the day to day category, which you

1583
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 2: know getting the full benefit of a bye week, I

1584
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: think puts them in a pretty good situation to return

1585
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 2: to the lineup this week. But we'll obviously have to

1586
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: wait and see, but I think there's at least a

1587
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 2: good chance that that happens. Let's go to Tim in

1588
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: South Carolina. What's up, Tim?

1589
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. I just want

1590
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 15: to start by saying I'm very excited I'll be going

1591
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 15: to the game this weekend, my first game in Charlotte,

1592
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 15: see the Bills. I know that they play here like

1593
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 15: ones every eight years or whatever. I've really been down

1594
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 15: here too, so me and my wife are excited to go,

1595
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 15: and I'm pretty sure that it'll be about seventy thirty

1596
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 15: Bills fans because every single team that comes here every

1597
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 15: single weekend takes over the stadium, so panther stands aren't

1598
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 15: even in existent. But AnyWho, what I really really would

1599
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 15: like to see, or hope to expect moving forward is,

1600
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 15: you know, the thing I liked that the Bills did

1601
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 15: this offseason was get a couple of new fresh spaces

1602
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 15: in the defensive room. You know the name of the

1603
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 15: dB coo escapes me from the Patriots, but Niels on

1604
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 15: defensive line. They both come from like Man's schemes, and

1605
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 15: I really wanted to see the Bills kind of shift

1606
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 15: to that. No, Max Harrison went down Lee and that

1607
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 15: probably threw a wrench into some of the plans that

1608
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 15: they had on the back. But seeing over the weekend,

1609
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 15: my biggest takeaway was that these teams play fast, they kill,

1610
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 15: they play man, they make the quarterback. Also, the rush

1611
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 15: can get there. I just think that the Bill's kind

1612
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 15: of switching to that once they have horses and once

1613
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 15: mc dermott hasn't trusted the guys on the back end

1614
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 15: to kind of hold up and do that. I really

1615
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 15: think it will not I think it will help the defense.

1616
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 15: And I just i'm whe her.

1617
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, Sam, they're breaking up.

1618
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: I think we have the general idea of what you're

1619
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 2: getting at, So I got to cut you loose there.

1620
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 1: You're just breaking up a little too much for us. Yeah,

1621
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: we'll see.

1622
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 2: I mean, if you could get Max Harrison back on

1623
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 2: the field and he can play a role for you

1624
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 2: if he's not starting, you can probably play a little

1625
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 2: more man coverage on the back end, because him and

1626
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 2: Benford are probably the two best at it. So that

1627
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 2: could afford you some of the scheming that you're talking

1628
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: about up front, because you might trust the guys on

1629
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 2: the back end a little bit more.

1630
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 1: Beyond that hard to say.

1631
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 2: And look, I don't know if we should be looking

1632
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: for wholesale changes coming out of the by I think

1633
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 2: we should be looking for more tweaks. And then the

1634
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 2: coaches you're mentioning are Mike Pellegrino, the Nichols coach, and

1635
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 2: Ryan Nielsen, the senior defensive assistant. And yes, they do

1636
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: come from schemes that played a fair amount of man

1637
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if that precludes the Bills to suddenly

1638
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: do that. We'll have to wait and see. But I

1639
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 2: think the lack of manpower hasn't made it any easier.

1640
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's impossible to know how much the injury list

1641
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 3: has affected their ability to call the defense or run

1642
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 3: the defenses they like or want to. Because of the

1643
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 3: deficiencies and the talent, they don't have enough depth and

1644
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 3: I don't think they have their best guys available. So

1645
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 3: how that changes things? Maybe after this bye week we

1646
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 3: have to wait and see. But the hope is obviously

1647
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 3: that they do play better and they they do get

1648
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 3: some more production out of that side of the ball certainly.

1649
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 3: I mean they're thirtieth or thirty first in the league

1650
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 3: against the run, both per play and per and per game.

1651
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 3: So it's it's something they've got to address. We'll see

1652
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 3: if they can get it done.

1653
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to fix, and like

1654
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 2: Steve said the other day, you're not going to throw

1655
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 2: the baby out with the bath water. But at the

1656
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 2: same time, you know you've you've got to make changes

1657
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 2: for the better, and those are usually ones that are

1658
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: subtle and small, but can make, in the eyes of

1659
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 2: the coaching staff, a sizeable difference in the overall results,

1660
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 2: which most importantly is the one on the scoreboard. Let's

1661
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: go to the tweetsheet presented by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

1662
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 2: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, where Bill

1663
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 2: says they are just okay better on D than O lately,

1664
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 2: but they do not start any games well. And this

1665
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: is a team meant to front run. They are a

1666
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 2: defense meant to pin its ears back an offense that

1667
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,480
Speaker 2: is meant to go downhill. So these starts are baffling

1668
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: at best, dispiriting at worst. So he's hoping for better starts,

1669
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: and I think a part of that is the lack

1670
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 2: of intensity and emotion that we've seen juice from this

1671
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 2: team at the beginning of the last three games. They

1672
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 2: have not matched the intensity of the opponent. And I'm

1673
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 2: not saying that's the end to all, be all, but

1674
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 2: it does help, and it's put this team in early

1675
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 2: deficits on the scoreboard. And if you're spending all this

1676
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 2: extra energy trying to catch up just to pull even

1677
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: makes it hard to win a game like that.

1678
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, Plus the way it's looked with the penalties and

1679
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 3: the turnovers, it looks like it started a conversation even

1680
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 3: on our show about them just kind of twiddling their

1681
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 3: thumbs until the playoffs start, which, you know, which is

1682
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 3: silly to think about, but it's kind of what it

1683
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 3: looked like right these other teams coming in and obviously

1684
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 3: we've seen it before where the Bills are playing a

1685
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 3: first place schedule because they've they've got a target on

1686
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 3: their back. I mean, they're in the AFC Championship game

1687
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 3: last year and win a playoff game every year, and

1688
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 3: teams use them as a measuring stick, most notably the

1689
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons. This last week. They the Bills are getting

1690
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 3: everybody's best shot, and it seems as though the Bills

1691
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 3: are just showing up. So we'll see if if that

1692
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 3: is addressed after the buye or the Bills can come

1693
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 3: up with something that makes them look like the team

1694
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 3: we think they should be. We'll see.

1695
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: Got to take a break here when we come back.

1696
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: Some final thoughts on the tweetsheet on where you believe

1697
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 2: the Bills can most easily change for the better coming

1698
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 2: out of the bye. We'll get to those when we

1699
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 2: return here on One Bill's Live. Stay with us, all right,

1700
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 2: last segment to go here on a Tuesday. Where do

1701
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 2: you believe the Bills can most easily change for the better?

1702
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 2: Jacob on the tweets sheet says, lean into their bread

1703
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 2: and butter twelve and thirteen personnel Throda Palmer, Kincaid and

1704
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 2: the running backs. Keon why does he lead the team

1705
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 2: in targets? He shouldn't have him?

1706
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: Earn it less snaps for him run play action. Joey says.

1707
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 2: Offense can find more success by Joe Brady reverting to

1708
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 2: what made him successful last season. Stop getting too cute

1709
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: and critical downs, and stop taking the ball away from

1710
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 2: your playmakers.

1711
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: Alan and Cook. With the game on the.

1712
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: Line, Scott says, I feel like Josh needs to take

1713
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 2: the check downs and play smarter football and less hero ball.

1714
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 2: Brady relies too much on Allen and needs to utilizes

1715
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 2: everybody he eats receivers and not forget about James Cook

1716
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. Also, I like trick plays, but

1717
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,799
Speaker 2: don't force them with cute end around sweeps Go Bills.

1718
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 2: Ed says Kane can change easily on offense. They have

1719
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 2: plenty of weapons. Defense is still a work in progress.

1720
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 2: Allen says in the trenches, the Bills have a really

1721
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 2: good three headed monster running back and with the activations

1722
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 2: of Hoyd and Ogan Jobi, the run defense should improve.

1723
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: Carolina will be a true test.

1724
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 2: And finally, Believer says, start having fun again. Looks like

1725
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 2: none of the players are enjoying themselves like they did

1726
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 2: in years past. It's an interesting cross section of opinions there, Steve,

1727
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 2: anyone grab you in particular?

1728
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, I mean, I get it about

1729
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 3: you know, seems like nobody's having It's no fun when

1730
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 3: you're getting penalties and turning the ball over, it's and

1731
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 3: losing and losing that stinks. When you're always uphill. I

1732
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 3: don't have a problem leaning into their bread and butter,

1733
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 3: the twelve and thirteen person and throwing it to those

1734
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 3: guys utilizing Cook a little more. If you really feel

1735
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 3: like you're having trouble getting on track, give the ball

1736
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 3: to your best players, Josh and James, Cook, Kincaid and Shakir.

1737
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 3: I'm kind of with him. I'm kind of done with

1738
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 3: the back shoulder throws for a minute. That's too low percentage.

1739
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 3: You need to stay on the field and be efficient.

1740
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 3: I don't mind taking a shot at at once in

1741
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 3: a while, but not on a third down and two. Yeah,

1742
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 3: try and do it a low percentage completely.

1743
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: That's why I thought dan Orlofski's comment that was most

1744
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 2: interesting was the one that he said, Joe Brady has

1745
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 2: moved a little bit away from the identity that he

1746
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 2: imprinted on this offense in the first place. We'll see

1747
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: if he gets back to that more in the games

1748
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,480
Speaker 2: coming up, starting on Sunday in Carolina.

1749
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: That's it for us today, Steve and I'll

1750
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,799
Speaker 2: See tomorrow one players back on the practice field,