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Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Paul Charchion.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm Paul Charchion, my guest,
Speaker 1: as he has been for many of the last shows,
Speaker 1: and we'll be for a few more thor nice strow,
Speaker 1: Hey buddy, Hey, how you doing it? Is certainly your
Speaker 1: time of year, isn't it? Ah? The best, the best?
Speaker 1: And I know you're super busy. We love you find
Speaker 1: time to get us up to speed on the rookies
Speaker 1: every year, this time of year and this is this
Speaker 1: is high demand thor season right here. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is like you know, for me, when I'm in like
Speaker 1: late August early September and everybody's getting ready for their
Speaker 1: guillotine drafts, that's my busy, busiest time of the year.
Speaker 1: This is this month is just nuts for you or
Speaker 1: are you all prepped up to the point that now
Speaker 1: it's just easy? I mean, nothing's your evaluation of players
Speaker 1: doesn't change much at this point. Right as we get
Speaker 1: into April.
Speaker 3: I would love to say the latter, but you know
Speaker 3: you're going deeper into the position. You know, when you
Speaker 3: do a five hundred player big board like I do
Speaker 3: with the five hundred comps, like I mean, it becomes
Speaker 3: a real discussion down the board draftable grades and then
Speaker 3: down the board and then you know who's who's gonna
Speaker 3: be on there, who's gonna miss it? But yeah, like
Speaker 3: there's there's a lot of guys to watch and to
Speaker 3: dig into to get to a five hundred player bard.
Speaker 3: So now we will we will be going right up
Speaker 3: to the draft.
Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, So we've got what rookie wide
Speaker 1: receivers today, then next week tight ends week after that
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and and it's quarterback has seen Well, we'll talk
Speaker 1: more about it when we get to that episode. Feels
Speaker 1: like it's been fairly stable other than cam Ward now
Speaker 1: moving to the presumed one to one from where this
Speaker 1: was a while ago. But let's let's talk wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Just overall, we had had over the past four or
Speaker 1: five years, we had had just these really deep classes
Speaker 1: of rookie wide receivers that were good at the top,
Speaker 1: middle end of the draft. This one, to me doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like as strong a class. So just talk to
Speaker 1: me before we get into specific guys, talk to me
Speaker 1: about this rookie class of wide receivers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like we talked about with the running back
Speaker 3: class from the other direction. These things are cyclical, and
Speaker 3: after we had a couple bad running back classes in
Speaker 3: a row, now we have one of the best that
Speaker 3: we've seen in the last fifteen twenty years. Whereas with
Speaker 3: wide receivers, like you mentioned, we had some stacked wide
Speaker 3: receiver classes here in the recent past, and that everything
Speaker 3: is cyclical. You can't have an awesome position class every year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know you're going to get it on the other
Speaker 3: side of the variants at some point, and that's what
Speaker 3: we have that with this receiver class. This receiver class
Speaker 3: is way way down from what we have seen in
Speaker 3: the past couple of years. There are interesting prospects though,
Speaker 3: there's a couple in here that absolutely should go in
Speaker 3: the first round, and there's some interesting sleepers, but overall,
Speaker 3: as far as class quality, this receiver class does not
Speaker 3: stack up well against the last couple.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Travis Hunter as his own
Speaker 1: unique situation here, I think the fantasy utility on Travis
Speaker 1: Hunter will be capped by just the snap count. But
Speaker 1: talk to me about him. Where would if Travis Hunter
Speaker 1: were only playing wide receiver and he, you know, was
Speaker 1: going to be on the field as a full time
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Where would Travis Hunter fit into this? And
Speaker 1: do you just disagree with my understanding that he's just
Speaker 1: not going to be on the field enough for him
Speaker 1: to be somebody you can reliably count on from a
Speaker 1: fantasy standpoint to the first.
Speaker 3: Question, he would be wide receiver one, yeah, bullet and
Speaker 3: he and of course he'd be one with the bullet
Speaker 3: as well, So you're talking about a unicorn prospect there
Speaker 3: that I do have a slightly different take as far
Speaker 3: as the fantasy utility with Okay, I think this kid
Speaker 3: starts out as a rookiet. Of course you're going to
Speaker 3: be playing all the snaps on defense, but I think
Speaker 3: it's going to be My ballpark is roughly forty percent
Speaker 3: and could be up to fifty percent of the snaps
Speaker 3: on offense. Whatever team takes him, you cannot afford not
Speaker 3: to have him taking offensive snaps. In addition, for you
Speaker 3: to the cornerback that you know that he's going to
Speaker 3: be playing right away. You just have to get him
Speaker 3: out there, and Travis Hunter, that's what he wants to do.
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter wants to be the sho Heyo Tani of
Speaker 3: the NFL. He's going to get that opportunity. That's something
Speaker 3: that he's put out there. He does not want to
Speaker 3: be a one way player. He wants to play both ways.
Speaker 3: You can't put him out there one hundred percent of
Speaker 3: the snaps on both right away, because you know we
Speaker 3: are starting to walk at that point, you're in unprecedented
Speaker 3: territory and your medical staff is going to tell you
Speaker 3: that you are elevating his injury risk above where they
Speaker 3: are comfortable. I think there's going to be discussions about
Speaker 3: that between the medical staff, between your analytics department, and
Speaker 3: then of course the coaching staff in the front off
Speaker 3: is going to get involved with this as well. They're
Speaker 3: going to come up with some sort of snapshare for
Speaker 3: offense in his rookie season that people are comfortable with
Speaker 3: starting and then you just see from there. But those
Speaker 3: snaps when he is on the field, you are going
Speaker 3: to be getting the ball to Travis Hunter. I think
Speaker 3: the team and it has him, you will have one
Speaker 3: non Travis Hunter playbook. You will have one Travis Hunter
Speaker 3: Playboff he's on the field, they will be looking to
Speaker 3: get him the ball. He's not gonna be out there
Speaker 3: many running plays. They're not gonna ask him to block, right.
Speaker 3: I mean that you're trying to keep him out of
Speaker 3: the collisions as much as you can when you don't
Speaker 3: when that ball is not in his hands. But I
Speaker 3: do think he's gonna get enough snaps to be Fantasy
Speaker 3: relevant as a rookie, especially because he's this classic best receiver.
Speaker 1: And I think the catch with Travis Hunter is you
Speaker 1: have to be playing in a format where it's okay
Speaker 1: if he I think he's gonna have some two catch
Speaker 1: twenty yard games because he's just not on the field
Speaker 1: as much as every down players. And then there's gonna
Speaker 1: be other games where he's gonna have five catches and
Speaker 1: he's gonna do something special on three of them, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna have explosive games. And so to me, you know,
Speaker 1: when I when I look at him as a potentially
Speaker 1: part time player, I think you just have to bake
Speaker 1: in the understanding that Travis Hunter is gonna have some
Speaker 1: games where the volume just isn't there is that fair?
Speaker 3: That is fair? And I think we're getting deeper into
Speaker 3: the weeds or more inside baseball here, because when I
Speaker 3: say forty percent, I'm talking about over the ocean of
Speaker 3: snaps in a season, assuming his health. And I'm gonna
Speaker 3: knock on when I say that. Yeah, But the way
Speaker 3: that you get there in games where the game script
Speaker 3: gets away one way or the other, I think that's
Speaker 3: where you save the snaps, right, I mean, because you
Speaker 3: only want him out there when he is juicing your
Speaker 3: opportunity to win the football game. If we're down by
Speaker 3: two touchdowns, all right, Travis, you know what, You're finishing
Speaker 3: out the game on defense. But we can probably save
Speaker 3: some hits for you here. Whereas games where they're closer throughout,
Speaker 3: I think you will see him out there on the
Speaker 3: field more than that forty percent, and they will probably
Speaker 3: trying to look to get him the ball even more
Speaker 3: because he can swing games.
Speaker 1: You've got Travis Hunter. I'm looking at your most current
Speaker 1: mock draft at fantasylife dot com. You've got Travis Hunter
Speaker 1: going third to the Giants. Yeah, that's a you know,
Speaker 1: it's Russell Wilson or Jameis Winston throwing him the ball, which, honestly,
Speaker 1: from a fantasy standpoint, I take Winston because we don't
Speaker 1: care as much about the interceptions as we do the
Speaker 1: long arm the you know, so he'll have funk quasi
Speaker 1: functional quarterbacking. I don't you know, I don't love the
Speaker 1: quarterbacking spot there for Travis Hunter, but that's okay, and
Speaker 1: that I think that would make sense for him to
Speaker 1: drop to the Giants. He's arguably the best player in
Speaker 1: this class, right so him going third overall wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a stretch.
Speaker 3: At all, one thousand percent, and he would be a
Speaker 3: perfect fit for the Giants as far as the dude
Speaker 3: takes over CB one right away and then that you know,
Speaker 3: we'll say the forty percent of snaps as a rookie
Speaker 3: on offense. Can you think of a more awesome second
Speaker 3: banana for Elik Neighbors? Right, Like Elik Neighbors, He's gonna
Speaker 3: be doing his thing on one side of the field
Speaker 3: and then Hunter on the other side. And neither of
Speaker 3: those guys, of course, has Tetoa McMillan size or you know,
Speaker 3: somebody like that, but both of them not only can
Speaker 3: slice and dice you a short and intermediate by manufacturing
Speaker 3: stuff you hit him on the hands in space. They
Speaker 3: also can both win downfield, right and and Travis Hunter
Speaker 3: is incredible downfield because his best thing as both a
Speaker 3: defender and a receiver is his ball skills. And you
Speaker 3: don't have to take my word for it, ask any
Speaker 3: of the coaches that have ever worked with Tim. It's like,
Speaker 3: I've never seen a guy with these kind of ball
Speaker 3: scales and down the field. Obviously he has all the
Speaker 3: athleticism that he needs to get there, and he he
Speaker 3: has like this gumbyl like contortionism to him as well.
Speaker 3: So he's going to get the best of it with
Speaker 3: this with his body control when the balls on the doorstep.
Speaker 3: But the other thing that's kind of unique about him
Speaker 3: beyond that is, uh, you know, and beyond you know,
Speaker 3: just the sort of the rope ball skills is physically
Speaker 3: he has longer arms than he should with his frame.
Speaker 3: In fact, his arms are I believe just one inch shell.
Speaker 3: I'm looking it up to to make sure I don't
Speaker 3: yeah one inch shell or actually yeah, almost exactly one
Speaker 3: inch sheth of teterol McMillan's wow the arm arm mu Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: so you're you're you're talking about to do with with
Speaker 3: super long arms and that manifest down the field there.
Speaker 3: You know, as far as extending that catch radius, he
Speaker 3: has more athleticism than you, so you know, again he's
Speaker 3: usually getting the step and then he can obviously get
Speaker 3: off the carpet and get in the air. And with
Speaker 3: those long arms, he has the ability to get higher
Speaker 3: than most of the guys that are defending him, certainly
Speaker 3: in college, but that's going to be the case in
Speaker 3: the NFL as well. He doesn't drop anything, So I
Speaker 3: mean that's you're getting a home run hitter there. It's
Speaker 3: also a guy of course, you know you hit him
Speaker 3: on the hands in intermediate in space like I mentioned,
Speaker 3: but talking about it, awesome second banana next to Moleague neighbors. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the Giants you obviously would have you for the first
Speaker 3: time since Eli Manning retired, you would have an interesting
Speaker 3: passing offense.
Speaker 1: There's that's Trevis Hunter and I do want to we
Speaker 1: will dive into the next set of of wide receivers
Speaker 1: and especially when I want to hit you with like
Speaker 1: Day one and two receivers, guys that could go in
Speaker 1: the first three rounds. When I look at teams that
Speaker 1: could for make a wide receiver in the first two
Speaker 1: days of the draft. I think Buffalo's in or really
Speaker 1: just Khalil Shakir. New England is always in play at receiver.
Speaker 1: They never do much about it and they haven't really
Speaker 1: been able to start a gold there, but they certainly
Speaker 1: need one. The Jets fall off a cliff after Garrett Wilson. Yes,
Speaker 1: Tennessee has Van Jefferson as a starter right now, so
Speaker 1: you know that is a team that needs wide receiver help.
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. We love Jacobe Myers on this show, but
Speaker 1: they need a number one wide receiver. Washington, they just
Speaker 1: landed de Ball on that one year deal, but it's
Speaker 1: only a one year deal, and Luke McCaffrey barely even
Speaker 1: got on the field last year. You and I differed
Speaker 1: on him a little bit at this time last season,
Speaker 1: and maybe his best days are still ahead of him.
Speaker 1: But I feel like that's a team that, looking ahead,
Speaker 1: could use the receiver. Green Bay's got all those, you know,
Speaker 1: that gaggle of good receivers, but not that great receiver
Speaker 1: that they've been searching for, and nobody's really emerged from
Speaker 1: that group yet. Carolina spent that late first rounder on
Speaker 1: Xavier lyget Lie last year, but they and so they
Speaker 1: probably don't spend high equity on receiver again, but still
Speaker 1: pretty telling that Adam Thielen was their best receiver last
Speaker 1: year at age thirty four. And I'll hit you with
Speaker 1: two more teams that I think are in play. New Orleans.
Speaker 1: They've got Chris Olave but like the rest of the
Speaker 1: receiver room is coming off ACL surgery. And then the Rams, right,
Speaker 1: so they added Devonte Adams obviously at his age, that's
Speaker 1: a stopgap measure and they ultimately need somebody opposite pokin Akua.
Speaker 1: They could be an interesting team later in the draft.
Speaker 1: And then Seattle, who signed Cooper Cup to a three
Speaker 1: year deal, which I do not understand at his age
Speaker 1: and given the metric drop offs that we've seen, but
Speaker 1: he's not a long term solution. And they lost DK Metcalf,
Speaker 1: So I think Seattle is in play as well.
Speaker 3: I would the ones I would add, did you say
Speaker 3: Jaguars and Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I did not say Jaguars or Cowboys. Tell me why
Speaker 1: you think they're they're in play here at receiver.
Speaker 3: Well, with the Jaguars, you have Brian Thomas and you
Speaker 3: like you, like Brian Thomas a lot outside. They need
Speaker 3: guys that can advance the ball for them, and I
Speaker 3: think they're a sneaky you know, everyone now is putting
Speaker 3: Mason Graham to the Jay and I have plenty, but
Speaker 3: I think they're If there's going to be a surprise
Speaker 3: in the top five, I think it's Lee and Coleen
Speaker 3: to commandeering that war room and saying I need I
Speaker 3: need a dude who can advance the ball for me. Now,
Speaker 3: this probably is more for our tight end conversation because
Speaker 3: I think Tyler Warren could end up being that guy. Yes,
Speaker 3: teterol McMillan, that might be. I like Tet, but might
Speaker 3: be just slight slightly over where you should be. But
Speaker 3: like Tyler Warren, it would be hard to argue against
Speaker 3: him there, right, Like, that's a guy who is one
Speaker 3: of the better way we'll talk about this in the
Speaker 3: tight end prospect, but that's one of the best prospects
Speaker 3: to come out at that position, particularly just with the
Speaker 3: idea of moving that football forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, That makes sense. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars like Brent Strange, and I think
Speaker 1: they're you know, I think that's part of why they
Speaker 1: let Ingram go. So you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they love Strange enough right now that they would pass
Speaker 1: on potentially a different game changing tight end. Let's dive
Speaker 1: into your wide receivers. You're number one ranked wide receiver
Speaker 1: and again not counting Travis Hunters will put an asterisk
Speaker 1: on that. That's Ted McMillan. You've already referred to your
Speaker 1: comp on him as T Higgins, and the ball skills
Speaker 1: on Ted McMillan are just sick.
Speaker 3: That's the thing. And like T Higgins, I think Ted's
Speaker 3: destiny if he's defined the right situation, it would be
Speaker 3: as an awesome wide receiver too. He kep you know,
Speaker 3: in the same way that Drake London's a wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Ted's also very similar to Drake London. But I you know,
Speaker 3: if you're talking like a very dangerous offense and a
Speaker 3: dangerous sort of contender, that's the role that I would
Speaker 3: prefer Ted end. His tench ball scials are insane because
Speaker 3: he has one of the biggest catch ratierses you'll see.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously he's stretched out at a little over
Speaker 3: sixty four and then he's got to long arms as well,
Speaker 3: and his insure hands as well, Like he has some
Speaker 3: highlight reels out there on YouTube, and you know, like
Speaker 3: in the facility where he's you know, jumping up, catching
Speaker 3: the ball between his legs and then putting the ball
Speaker 3: through his legs before he lands, like all this sort
Speaker 3: of he can do all sorts of ridiculous things, but
Speaker 3: he's awesome in contested situations. Nineteen for thirty one last season,
Speaker 3: he was number two and contested catches in this class
Speaker 3: the year before that. This is also the thing people
Speaker 3: nitpick him for, though, is his work against man coverage,
Speaker 3: where it's it's not that he couldn't create separations that
Speaker 3: sometimes it doesn't appear that he's even trying. It's it's
Speaker 3: he is one of those guys with man coverage he
Speaker 3: wants to It's sort of like a child who's afraid
Speaker 3: in the dark and they're with their parent and they
Speaker 3: want to sort of feel that their parent is next
Speaker 3: to them. That's sort of what he's like with his
Speaker 3: man defender. He wants to know where that do it
Speaker 3: because his ball skills are so good and he positions
Speaker 3: his body so so it's like when when he going
Speaker 3: down on you know, along that stem, he sort of
Speaker 3: wants to know, get his bearings with where is that guy?
Speaker 3: And then it's the equation when the ball's on the doorstep,
Speaker 3: what he's going to do with his body in his hands.
Speaker 3: But his his separation rate against man coverage was very,
Speaker 3: very low. Interestingly though, he was at the top of
Speaker 3: the class in separation rate quote unquote against zone coverage.
Speaker 3: And he has a very good zone coverage barometer or
Speaker 3: calculator in his head. Like right after the snap, those
Speaker 3: couple beats you see the movement of the defenders. Tet's
Speaker 3: one of those guys that immediately knows where they are headed,
Speaker 3: which means that he knows where the open spot of
Speaker 3: grass is before it appears right And those are the
Speaker 3: guys where it's like they're always available to the quarterback
Speaker 3: and the balls right there. You would see Noah Fafida,
Speaker 3: the underside scrambling quarterback for Arizona, when he saw the
Speaker 3: drop zone his eye. You'd see it every time on film.
Speaker 3: He's going right to tat because you know tech going
Speaker 3: to be open right like and you know and and
Speaker 3: and then he can even throw an Aaron ball and
Speaker 3: it is going to be speared by those long arms.
Speaker 3: But Te's a very good receiver. It's not I would say,
Speaker 3: an Alfa Alpha wide receiver one in the NFL, but
Speaker 3: it certainly an acceptable Drake London like wide receiver one
Speaker 3: if that's what he ends up going to an offense
Speaker 3: like that. But like I said, his destiny, I would
Speaker 3: prefer that he get in a situation. Not everyone can
Speaker 3: play across from a Jamar Chase or a Justin Jefferson
Speaker 3: or someone like that. But if he could get into
Speaker 3: that situation, you could just allow him to do tet
Speaker 3: things while the other guy is rampaging on the other
Speaker 3: side of the field.
Speaker 1: You've got tet right now. Going to Dallas, had picked
Speaker 1: number twelve, he's Is he the best contested catch receiver
Speaker 1: in this in this draft class?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably yes, Yeah, in terms of contested catches for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels that way, and that you know, Ceedee,
Speaker 1: Lamb's already awesome at that. But that is a team
Speaker 1: where the drop off after Lamb it goes to what
Speaker 1: Tolbert and then it's I don't know, are they going
Speaker 1: to actually play Jonathan Mingo in one of the worst
Speaker 1: trades that nobody talks about, that fourth rounder that they
Speaker 1: gave up for Alison Mingo.
Speaker 3: Let's just say they they need to draft a receiver
Speaker 3: real quick because right now on their projected depth chart,
Speaker 3: Mingo is the wide receiver three and they need to
Speaker 3: knock him down. Maybe even wide receiver four is a
Speaker 3: little bit above Jonathan Mingo's import as to what he
Speaker 3: actually is. So they need some help.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go on our next receiver. Matthew Golden.
Speaker 1: This is the speedster from Texas. You've comped him to
Speaker 1: Chris Olave and you've got him going in the first round.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing that evokes Olave is Olave. So I
Speaker 3: always think of it as like a jet ski, you know,
Speaker 3: just because I'm from northern Minnesota with you know, but
Speaker 3: like the throttle ford, throttle back, throttle forward, throttle back,
Speaker 3: the speed change temple guys. And that's like Matthew Goh,
Speaker 3: you just think of him out there on the jet
Speaker 3: ski throttles forward but then throttle back, throttle forward. He
Speaker 3: changes his speed so well that that's how he ends
Speaker 3: up creating separation because he keeps guys off of him. Right. So,
Speaker 3: so along the stem you're able to keep the defense
Speaker 3: off you, and once you get to the route break,
Speaker 3: you got a little more room to maneuver, and he
Speaker 3: certainly has the footwork and agility through there. He's a
Speaker 3: good route runner. And then I think that's a part
Speaker 3: of the reason why no one was seeing that four
Speaker 3: two nine come in, because he does not play full
Speaker 3: throttle all the time, certainly along the routestem by design, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what leads to the separation rate that
Speaker 3: he has, very very good with that. This is also
Speaker 3: a guy even though he is quote unquote undersize at
Speaker 3: that combine five ten, one nine one, I know that
Speaker 3: he can play on the boundary. He can absolutely be
Speaker 3: drafted by a team that's like you are one of
Speaker 3: our starting bowery wide receivers going forward. Because gold improved
Speaker 3: the concept of that in college. Yeah, first two years
Speaker 3: was at Houston, and then last year at Texas he
Speaker 3: did it, you know. I mean he was the dude
Speaker 3: down the stretch there when they were making a run
Speaker 3: trying to get to the national championship. And in part
Speaker 3: because Matthew Golden got injured right before Treveon Henderson did
Speaker 3: his seventy five yard touch and run delayed screen right
Speaker 3: before halftime. Those two things in conjunction took all the
Speaker 3: wind owt of the Longhorns' sales, and the rest was
Speaker 3: history as far as Ohio State goes. But Golden can
Speaker 3: interchangeably play between the slot or the boundary, so creative
Speaker 3: offensive staffs you can move him around to try to
Speaker 3: get matchup advantages for you. This is a guy and
Speaker 3: probably the only other dude in the class besides Tep
Speaker 3: McMillan that you know, if we're not counting Hunter, you know,
Speaker 3: the wide receivers only that proved that he could win
Speaker 3: at all three levels consistently at the field during his career.
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of his game, and he absolutely
Speaker 3: should go in the first round.
Speaker 1: All right, Matthew Golden, And I'm pulling up your mock
Speaker 1: draft right now. You've got him going to Seattle, which
Speaker 1: makes which makes a ton of sense at pick number eighteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Seattle. The best case scenario for Seattle would be
Speaker 3: if Teed McMillan had the free fall. And you know
Speaker 3: there are scenarios, right this is that would be more
Speaker 3: of the Lloyd Christmas. You're saying there's a chance point zero.
Speaker 3: But if Ted got there, you know, because like you
Speaker 3: were talking about, you know, with Cooper Cup and then
Speaker 3: it's JSN. It's two guys that probably should be playing
Speaker 3: mostly in the slot. Obviously it's JSN going to be
Speaker 3: playing the boundary this year a lot more. But that's
Speaker 3: why they can't take a book. I'd be fun to
Speaker 3: to reunite Buka with js N, you know, but you
Speaker 3: can't do that. You have too many guys with similar
Speaker 3: skill sets. You're trying to build a basketball team with
Speaker 3: your pass catching group, and you would have a bunch
Speaker 3: of small forwards at that time, or point guards or
Speaker 3: however you want to you know, look at that or whatever.
Speaker 3: But Matthew Golden, like I said, a guy that you
Speaker 3: can project to take over a boundary spot on day
Speaker 3: one and he can win downfield. And of course that
Speaker 3: team has experience with the undersized U boundary receivers. They've
Speaker 3: they've done that for for a little bit now, right
Speaker 3: locket and yeah, Golden Tape back in the day played
Speaker 3: some out there. So yeah, I think I think Golden
Speaker 3: would be a good fit.
Speaker 1: When you're on a jet ski, it's awesome. Jet skis
Speaker 1: are a blast. You know, you're powering through the water,
Speaker 1: You're you know, you're doing big cuts of waves, you know,
Speaker 1: and you open it up, you throttle open, You're going
Speaker 1: Thi down the lake. Everybody hates you. Everybody on that
Speaker 1: lake freaking hates you. It's so loud and noisy, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's a pristine day. The water's calm.
Speaker 1: You can hear loon in the background. And then.
Speaker 3: And then Thor comes out of nowhere dressed like Kenny Powers.
Speaker 3: Remember in Kenny Park, you ever watch He's bonding down
Speaker 3: and Kenny Powers out there on the jet ski. He's
Speaker 3: like dressed, you know, it's like dressed like a suit
Speaker 3: and he's got a beer and every day like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that. That's me coming out. Someone's dropping their morning
Speaker 3: coffee on their.
Speaker 1: Decks exactly exactly. It's like it's it's it's awesome for
Speaker 1: you and it's bad for everybody around you. That is
Speaker 1: that's the jet ski. Let's go to your number three
Speaker 1: ranked receiver and if I I'm gonna you and I
Speaker 1: are terrible with names, let's hope we get this right.
Speaker 1: A mecha Eggbuka. Yeah, perfect, thank you. I've been I've
Speaker 1: been working on that. Thank you very much. Your comp
Speaker 1: here is the aforementioned Jackson Smith and Jigba. He is
Speaker 1: a true slot receiver and you know whatever team, whatever
Speaker 1: team takes him, is going to is going to need
Speaker 1: to use him that way.
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, I mean he is your slot dude,
Speaker 3: but what and he's not going to give you the
Speaker 3: explosive plays he will give you. He will improve your
Speaker 3: offensive your offensive efficiency right away. I mean, he's the
Speaker 3: paper cut guy. He's going to pay per cut your
Speaker 3: paper cut, your paper cut you. And the more space
Speaker 3: that he has the work with, the more he's going
Speaker 3: to abuse this single coverage. They're very, very good route runner.
Speaker 3: He just understands what he's doing. And it's not like
Speaker 3: this guy's a bumba an athlete. He was a former
Speaker 3: five star recruit who was at the top of his
Speaker 3: receiver class when he was coming out. Yeah, he went
Speaker 3: into a receiver room that I believe had four other
Speaker 3: first round wide receivers. Every time he got there, it
Speaker 3: was a Lave Wilson, Marvin Harrison Junior, and JSN and
Speaker 3: then him. He's going to be the fifth one from
Speaker 3: the receiving Yeah, absolutely ridiculous. But the other you know,
Speaker 3: I was talking about this with Ted Buka is even
Speaker 3: better with his own coverage thing. It is just a
Speaker 3: media He only needs like a half step from the
Speaker 3: defense and he's like, okay, this is where they're going, right,
Speaker 3: Like he just sees the whole chess board and he's
Speaker 3: always available to his quarterback. You know, on those zone concepts,
Speaker 3: he doesn't drop the ball five point five percent career
Speaker 3: drop rate on two hundred five career receptions. And then
Speaker 3: this is also a guy who is very good in
Speaker 3: contested situations for a slot guy. And what that is
Speaker 3: is on money downs when it was third and four,
Speaker 3: third and six, whatever, they love to just try to
Speaker 3: fit balls into windows too, Igbuga because they know he's
Speaker 3: going to catch it his career. In his career, he
Speaker 3: was twenty five of forty six in contested situations. And
Speaker 3: it wasn't because he could not create separation. He absolutely can.
Speaker 3: His separation rate was one of the highest in the
Speaker 3: nation these past couple of years. It's because he is
Speaker 3: so reliable. The quarterback will try to fit it into
Speaker 3: a window when you just need those five yards and
Speaker 3: he is going to convert for you. So he's going
Speaker 3: to make an offense really happy.
Speaker 1: All right, that's how much do you think he was
Speaker 1: just aiighted by the rest of Ohio State's receiver room, right,
Speaker 1: you know, over the here he is running from the slot.
Speaker 1: They've got these amazing boundary receivers who demand their own coverage.
Speaker 1: And so I've had some people at least ask openly,
Speaker 1: was Agbuka a product of Ohio State's amazing roster and
Speaker 1: how much of that would it? You know, would that
Speaker 1: same level of productivity automatically transfer to the NFL? Do
Speaker 1: you think that's a fair concern.
Speaker 3: I think it helped him in the same way that
Speaker 3: it helped JSN because those two guys, the better the
Speaker 3: boundary receivers are around them, the more space you get,
Speaker 3: and they're going to destroy you in space. But it
Speaker 3: didn't make either of them right, Like Egbuka was the
Speaker 3: number one receiver in his class, and then we haven't
Speaker 3: gotten the testing metrics on him. I don't really care
Speaker 3: about that, though. There are numerous reports that he was
Speaker 3: running in the four fourds in high school. And by
Speaker 3: the way, real Analytics that does the in game data
Speaker 3: on the chips, I've been looking at those a lot
Speaker 3: more in my value, because the NFL has begun to
Speaker 3: look at them a lot more in their evaluations, Eggbuka
Speaker 3: had a ninety six point zero in game athleticism score.
Speaker 3: So that's a combination of your your max speed, your
Speaker 3: max acceleration, your max deceleration, your agility, you know, all
Speaker 3: these sort of different things. Ninety six point zero means
Speaker 3: he's a ninety six percentile athlete for that position. So
Speaker 3: this is a guy who is a really good athlete
Speaker 3: for the role that he plays in as all the
Speaker 3: athleticism he needs, the apolish that he has as a receiver,
Speaker 3: it speaks for hisself and so does the pedigree.
Speaker 1: All right, when we when we come back from a breakthrough,
Speaker 1: let's hit him four or five more wide receivers that
Speaker 1: you think are going to be taken day one, day
Speaker 1: two in that kind of range, including the next guy
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, a polarizing player, Luther Burden,
Speaker 1: when we come back. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. Paul
Speaker 1: charchiin Thorn Eistrom with you. Thanks for hanging out over
Speaker 1: the break Luther Burden from Missouri. You've comped him to
Speaker 1: Percy Harvin, but you know, I've seen a lot. I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of different opinions on him. People who
Speaker 1: love the athleticism, the strength, and other people who see
Speaker 1: some who see maybe at best a Deebo Samuel, an
Speaker 1: inconsistent player who's got to get the ball behind the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. You hope he breaks the tackle. What
Speaker 1: do you think about Luther Burden and where do you
Speaker 1: think he's going to go in this draft?
Speaker 3: Church? Is it the rorshack test when they say your
Speaker 3: response it says more about you than it does. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's Luther Burden, Because I feel like Luther Burden
Speaker 3: has one of the more straightforward evaluations of any guy oka,
Speaker 3: especially in this receiverse. He just is what he is.
Speaker 3: He's the manufactured touch slot who is an absolute Ferrari
Speaker 3: with the ball in his hands. But the limitation, of
Speaker 3: course is, for whatever reason, that level of movement it
Speaker 3: is not apparent with his route running, and so you
Speaker 3: don't want him running down the field that there's not
Speaker 3: a lot of the way I put it as salesman ship,
Speaker 3: like he just doesn't have a good idea of putting
Speaker 3: himself in the driver's seat of the other car and
Speaker 3: thinking through like, oh, you know, if I was to
Speaker 3: try to fool that guy, how would I do it?
Speaker 3: Like there's just not a lot of that with his game.
Speaker 3: He's not very sudden with that. But with the ball
Speaker 3: in his hands, it's a different thing. And that's where
Speaker 3: you know the Percy Harvin thing. It's the same sort
Speaker 3: of a deal that propulsion going forward. You have the
Speaker 3: noss button where you hit it and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you're at top speed immediately, and just like
Speaker 3: Percy Harvin, you get an element of power there right
Speaker 3: where it becomes the acceleration times the forest time, you
Speaker 3: know whatever that equation is from Einstein where he all
Speaker 3: of a sudden he equals him squared right here. That's
Speaker 3: that is exactly right. Yeah, it's it's it's the thing
Speaker 3: of you know, he's only two hundred and six pounds,
Speaker 3: but the speed. You know, usually we talk about speed
Speaker 3: to power conversion from edge defenders. The same principle applies
Speaker 3: here and you get the contact balance with some tackle
Speaker 3: breaking power from Luther Burden because of that. But it
Speaker 3: was really fun watching his tape because you got to see,
Speaker 3: you know, both how good of an athlete he is,
Speaker 3: but then also how creative Missouri's staff was, where all
Speaker 3: these kinds of different concepts designed to get him the
Speaker 3: ball in space like one of them. They'd have the
Speaker 3: four receivers, and then they would have Burden lineup in
Speaker 3: the backfield as the running back, so they technically have
Speaker 3: five receivers on the field. They have three receivers on
Speaker 3: one side. They would spray down the field just clear
Speaker 3: out routes, and then they would leak Burden out of
Speaker 3: the backfield exactly. Yeah, and you put him into basically
Speaker 3: the whole playbook for Missouri the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: The whole idea of it was get Luther the ball
Speaker 3: in a situation where he just has to break one
Speaker 3: tackle and we get an explosive play. So basically their
Speaker 3: whole playbook was designed like that. The manufacturer touched off
Speaker 3: the other thing. Every time you saw the defense going
Speaker 3: to a drop zone, you were about to see a
Speaker 3: four to five yard hitch route run from Luther Burden
Speaker 3: and the ball coming right then. And for people out there,
Speaker 3: hitch routes just a mini hook. You know, a hook
Speaker 3: is like at ten eleven yards depth hitches four to five,
Speaker 3: and you almost always see it with drop zones because
Speaker 3: the wide receiver one on that team has been told, yeah,
Speaker 3: just you see them all drop back, it's four or
Speaker 3: five yards, turn around, the balls come in, and that's
Speaker 3: what it was for Luther Burden. You get a free
Speaker 3: catch and run opportunity. But yeah, I mean eighty four
Speaker 3: of his career catches Luther Burden out of one hundred
Speaker 3: and ninety two came behind the line of scrimmage, speaking
Speaker 3: to how many of these touches were manufactured. And I
Speaker 3: think charge with the debate of Luther Burden, you have
Speaker 3: people that are in on Luther Burden, people out on
Speaker 3: Luther Burden, even though again it's a straightforward evaluation. So
Speaker 3: it's like, where are these these disagreements and these discrepancies
Speaker 3: coming from. I think this has more to do with
Speaker 3: the one is sort of the pratfalls of having a
Speaker 3: job like mine that people don't understand, which is you
Speaker 3: rank out a board as a media member. You don't
Speaker 3: have an offensive scheme, you don't have an offensive coordinator
Speaker 3: that's saying, hey, this is the scheme, this is the
Speaker 3: position I need, this is the sort of player type
Speaker 3: that I need for that position, right or advice of
Speaker 3: on defense. And so because of that, you're just trying
Speaker 3: to rank everyone in a vacuum, and the people that
Speaker 3: don't like Luthor Burden. They're the ones saying, well, this
Speaker 3: guy's not a wide receiver one in the NFL. He's
Speaker 3: a manufactured touch guy. And how am I going to
Speaker 3: put that value with you know, a guy that like
Speaker 3: Tad or you know, one of these different Matthew gold
Speaker 3: and whatever. But like, whereas the people that love him
Speaker 3: are like, this guy's clearly the best with the ball
Speaker 3: in his hands. He is going to manufacture yards and
Speaker 3: if he finds the right situation, he's going to put
Speaker 3: up Ludacris numbers. And both sides are right, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, It's just we don't know what situation
Speaker 3: he's going into. This is a situation specific player right
Speaker 3: where he needs to get into that thing in the
Speaker 3: best one for him would be the team that has
Speaker 3: the best boundary receiver. That's right, Yes, that's what it is,
Speaker 3: because you will naturally create that space. I was talking
Speaker 3: about that with like Buka, he wins before the catch.
Speaker 3: Luther Burden is winning after the catch, and the more
Speaker 3: space that is provided for him, now it can be
Speaker 3: a thing where you're in you just have that one
Speaker 3: tackle to break and then you get the explosive play
Speaker 3: but that's Luther Burden.
Speaker 1: Let me give you the ideal landing spot for Luther Burden. Yeah, Bengals.
Speaker 3: Bengals would be good. Bengals would be really good. That
Speaker 3: is Larry David. That would be pretty pretty good.
Speaker 1: It would be. My worry on Luther Burden is just this.
Speaker 1: It's all these short catches. You noted forty four percent
Speaker 1: of his catches were behind the line of scrimmage. We've
Speaker 1: seen this with Deebo Samuel where he'll have a four
Speaker 1: catch game and you know, most of those catches are
Speaker 1: added near the line of scrimmage, and if he doesn't
Speaker 1: break a tackle, he gets tackled near the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage and you've got a you know, this is just
Speaker 1: a fantasy standpoint. You've got a four catch, thirty yard
Speaker 1: game on your hands, and that's that. You know, that's
Speaker 1: not saying, but we all know that Deebo Samuel can
Speaker 1: also be incredibly special and when he you know, when
Speaker 1: he does break a tackle, cyon are a highlight time
Speaker 1: and we remember those things. I think there's going to
Speaker 1: be just good and bad games for Luther Burden, depending
Speaker 1: a lot, of course on landing spot. Do you uh
Speaker 1: do you see, like Percy Harvin went in the he
Speaker 1: fell to the middle of the second round when he
Speaker 1: was drafted in part because of personality concerns and character
Speaker 1: concerns and stuff like that, much of which ended up
Speaker 1: being actually pretty valid. Where do you have Luther Burden
Speaker 1: going not in the first round. I don't believe.
Speaker 3: Well, Percy actually was twenty second overall.
Speaker 1: Oh was he okay? Thanks Zicher, I had misremembered.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Luther he's right, you know, right on
Speaker 3: that line. Whether it is at the very end of
Speaker 3: Thursday night or whether it is right away on Friday night,
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be one of the two. I
Speaker 3: think Luther Burden is a top forty pick, but I'm
Speaker 3: not definitely not saying Locke for the first round. But
Speaker 3: but if he gets out of it, like I said,
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see teams trying to move up
Speaker 3: for him, because you're gonna have the teams where like
Speaker 3: you saw last year at Missouri, the reason his stats
Speaker 3: were down is because the offense wasn't his gut. It
Speaker 3: didn't have anything to do with Luther Burden. It had
Speaker 3: to do with the fact that defenses could collapse on
Speaker 3: him because Missouri didn't have a running game anymore, and
Speaker 3: they the other receivers weren't great, and the quarterback play
Speaker 3: was atrocia. So he got ganged up on and he
Speaker 3: got frustrated by that, et cetera. But it shows again
Speaker 3: you need to get this guy into a situation where
Speaker 3: he's an awesome for instant third banana, which is what
Speaker 3: it would be with the Bengals. Yeah, that's how his
Speaker 3: game plays up. He is not a Michael Jordan. He's uh,
Speaker 3: you know my basketball metaphor sting Scottie Piper a little
Speaker 3: or or you know, a Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 1: I guess if I were to put Burden on the
Speaker 1: team based in if he is going to go early
Speaker 1: second round, it's not very exciting, but I could see
Speaker 1: Tennessee going cam Ward and then second round Luther Bird.
Speaker 3: Kim Ward loves thrown into the slot, just as every
Speaker 3: strippo about that.
Speaker 1: All right, well there you go. That's so I'll go
Speaker 1: to war with that prediction. Uh, your fifth rank running back, Sorry,
Speaker 1: wide receiver Jaden Higgins from Iowa State. This is not
Speaker 1: Iowa State had two really good wide receivers. It turns
Speaker 1: out yeah, highly productive. Your comp here is Kenny Galladay,
Speaker 1: which makes people go, oh, but how about this rass
Speaker 1: nine point nine to two holy cow?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and incredible at that size. The six' four
Speaker 3: and change two fourteen runs the four four seven has
Speaker 3: the thirty nine inch Vertical and this, guy this guy
Speaker 3: has the wingspan of an offensive. Tackle we're at the
Speaker 3: eighty with. Him so he's got the super duper long
Speaker 3: arms and he's a he's a smooth operator out. There
Speaker 3: the movement is really really smooth with. Him the thing
Speaker 3: he doesn't Have it wasn't a surprise to see him
Speaker 3: duck the three cone and the shuttle the side decide
Speaker 3: agility isn't, great but the north south stuff. Is and
Speaker 3: you can build a route tree around him where you
Speaker 3: can leverage his. Strengths just have him going north south,
Speaker 3: right like you don't the rout breaks with, You like
Speaker 3: you don't want him running the whip route for. You
Speaker 3: you have another guy doing. That but this is a
Speaker 3: guy that can win. Downtown he can also win short and.
Speaker 3: INTERMEDIATE i mean that's more stuff like the slants and the. Drags,
Speaker 3: yeah but he doesn't he doesn't drop in, thing and
Speaker 3: he's got the catch, radius LIKE i, said is absolutely.
Speaker 3: Enormous but his career drop rate over four seasons and
Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty targets three point zero.
Speaker 1: Perds that's.
Speaker 3: It that is. Absurd that's a drop a year thor
Speaker 3: it's absolutely. Insane and then three consecutive seasons with two
Speaker 3: point two percent drop rate or. Less it's only at
Speaker 3: three percent because he dropped a couple more his true
Speaker 3: freshman season when he was in THE. Fcs so he
Speaker 3: does not drop. Balls and that includes in contested situations
Speaker 3: deep forty five of eighty one career contested catch situations
Speaker 3: For higgins in this bad receiver, CLASS i just really
Speaker 3: like what he brings to the. Table this is the
Speaker 3: guy who's going to be a really good wide receiver
Speaker 3: two boundary guy in THE nfl for a long long.
Speaker 1: Time so, okay if he's gonna be vertical downfield is
Speaker 1: where he's gonna be really. Helpful how about that we
Speaker 1: talked about The. Cowboys how about this is Your cowboys landing.
Speaker 1: Spot it picked forty four where you, KNOW cd can
Speaker 1: do a lot of, things all the amazing separation and,
Speaker 1: everything but, see he's not a deep downfield. Burner this would.
Speaker 1: Give this would feel like a natural compliment To Ceedee
Speaker 1: lamb for me If Jayden higgins found his way To.
Speaker 3: Dallas, Yes, Jayden, YEAH i mean he's actually the guy
Speaker 3: that they want a mingo to, be AND i guess
Speaker 3: The panthers want a mingo to be. Before but this
Speaker 3: is actually that that guy that is gonna win for
Speaker 3: you on the boundary.
Speaker 1: Consistently all, right let's go to your number six rank wide,
Speaker 1: Receiver Elick iomanor DID I i THINK i got that?
Speaker 1: Right is it IOMANOR iomannera? Nice i'm two for two
Speaker 1: on tricky. Names it's like it's.
Speaker 3: Like lord of the manor But? Iomanner?
Speaker 1: OH i like? It all, right your comp Here's Brailan.
Speaker 1: Edwards When Braylon edwards came, OUT i thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna be, great AND i really ended up being a very,
Speaker 1: middling underproductive career and that was kind of a. Bummer
Speaker 1: he hid national prominence a couple of years ago when
Speaker 1: he Roasted Travis. Hunter, right had almost three hundred yards
Speaker 1: in that, game and all of a, sudden people are
Speaker 1: taking are Following Elick.
Speaker 3: Iomanor, YEAH i mean this is a big boundary receiver
Speaker 3: six two two oh, six and he has the downtown
Speaker 3: wheels and he knows what he's doing down the, field
Speaker 3: the ball skills and then pinning people behind that big
Speaker 3: muscular frame of. His but this is a former track.
Speaker 3: STAR i don't think people realize how athletic he, was
Speaker 3: but at that size he ran a four four four
Speaker 3: and thirty eight and a half vertical is spectacular at that.
Speaker 3: Size you see that propulsion off the, snap but it's
Speaker 3: it's a there's rawness to his. Game this is a
Speaker 3: kid who came From canada and so he picked up
Speaker 3: the sport late and then when he went to, college
Speaker 3: it was At stanford and they have an abysmal passing,
Speaker 3: attack so they they sort of used them and in
Speaker 3: sort of this sort of limited way where it was
Speaker 3: it was leveraging the downfield. Stuff but he is really
Speaker 3: really good down the. Field As Travis hunter learned first
Speaker 3: hand in that game in twenty twenty, three you don't
Speaker 3: get a, lot you, know of the yak with With
Speaker 3: iomanner because a lot of those those plays where you're
Speaker 3: getting value from, him it is further down the, field
Speaker 3: so so that that's where you see that the speed,
Speaker 3: leverage but it needs a little bit of. Work it's
Speaker 3: not a finished package right. Now you're gonna have to
Speaker 3: work on the routes a little, bit especially if you
Speaker 3: want to try to get him winning in the intermediate section.
Speaker 3: More and then the release package is a little bit
Speaker 3: raw as. Well but they're the physical package. Here and
Speaker 3: the ceiling is one of the highest in the. Class
Speaker 3: so when you just look at it like, That so
Speaker 3: who is gonna take a swing On Io manners upside
Speaker 3: walk to see on that there is a lower floor
Speaker 3: than some of these other, guys but one of the
Speaker 3: higher ceilings in the receiver.
Speaker 1: Class i've Got iomanner going sixty two To. Buffalo buffalo
Speaker 1: needs the receiver. HELP i feel like end of second
Speaker 1: round does end the second round feel about right for?
Speaker 3: Him, YEAH i mean it's gonna. Be it's gonna be
Speaker 3: somewhere there in the second, round and we'll have to
Speaker 3: see where the other wide receivers end up. Going but,
Speaker 3: YEAH i would probably IF i had to, say, RIGHT
Speaker 3: i probably put it middle. Second but would it be
Speaker 3: a surprise felt in the Second, no it wouldn't at,
Speaker 3: All like because again there is the rawness to his,
Speaker 3: game And i'm curious the sort of situational assumptions that
Speaker 3: teams are, making you, know that are shopping for receivers
Speaker 3: there on day two of like this isn't a great receiver,
Speaker 3: class and then should we buy the Floor we're about
Speaker 3: to talk about more of a floor prospect or should
Speaker 3: we get a ceiling on a guy Like Io. Manner
Speaker 3: it's going to be really interesting to see that as.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah and Maybe Kean coleman ends up being great
Speaker 1: in his second season and The bills don't go this,
Speaker 1: direction BUT i think they could Use they could use
Speaker 1: some depth of the. POSITION i want to hit two
Speaker 1: more guys and let's do. Them we'll have to do
Speaker 1: them a little bit more. Quickly Trey harris from Ole.
Speaker 1: Miss your comp here Is Alan. Robbinson he was highly,
Speaker 1: productive went healthy at Ole, miss but some worry that
Speaker 1: that production was a byproduct of a first repassing scheme
Speaker 1: From Jackson. DART i Like Trey.
Speaker 3: Harris he's been producing for a long. Time he got
Speaker 3: on the field early when he went To louisiana tack
Speaker 3: and then he transferred up a course into The Lane
Speaker 3: kiffin offense and he was the wide receiver. One and
Speaker 3: the biggest criticis About jackson darts evaluation as he locked
Speaker 3: into the first rue through the first read all the,
Speaker 3: time that was Tray. Harris, yeah, right SO i mean
Speaker 3: this guy's. Good he is. Reliable but, yeah and just
Speaker 3: speaking to that last, year five point one five yards
Speaker 3: per route. Run, NO i did not. Speak that is. Gigantic,
Speaker 3: holy that is like It it's like you're two and
Speaker 3: a half is really?
Speaker 1: Good right, right you're.
Speaker 3: Double it is absolutely. Absurd and those games where he was,
Speaker 3: healthy he averaged almost one hundred and thirty yards per game,
Speaker 3: Receiving so, LIKE i, mean that is legit doing that
Speaker 3: in THE. Sec but you, know to the point of
Speaker 3: sort of the empty calorie. Stats he had seventy nine
Speaker 3: targets last. Year forty of them came on either hitch
Speaker 3: routes we talked about hitch routs before or wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Screens that's as empty calory as it. Gets and then
Speaker 3: With harris that the other stuff he would. Do you
Speaker 3: have the downtown, stuff and he is a good down
Speaker 3: the field, receiver but you'd have, that and then you'd
Speaker 3: have the slants right, there there Wasn't this isn't a,
Speaker 3: guy it's another. Guy he ain't gonna do any whip
Speaker 3: routes for, you you, know the agility, thing and now
Speaker 3: we snap off the clean break and it's our kami
Speaker 3: and now we're going To he's not going to do
Speaker 3: that stuff for, you but if you can par that
Speaker 3: route treat down for. Him the hands are. Reliable he
Speaker 3: has that big. Frame he's athletic in that big. Frame
Speaker 3: so that's what you're gonna get from. Him but, yeah
Speaker 3: just keep in mind with those, stats how much of
Speaker 3: it was empty?
Speaker 1: Calorie all, Right last, GUY i want to hit, On Jaalen,
Speaker 1: noel who is somebody That i've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: people falling in love, with and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that like. Him you comped him to one of
Speaker 1: my favorite, Guys Khalil, shakier so you, Know i'm automatically
Speaker 1: super interested. Here and this is Another iowa state guy
Speaker 1: who This Jaylen noel playing in the Slot Jaden higgins
Speaker 1: on the.
Speaker 3: Outside, Yeah Jalen noel is just so. Reliable this is
Speaker 3: you talk about high. Floors this is one of the
Speaker 3: higher floor receivers in this entire. Class this, ceiling, though of,
Speaker 3: course is cap by the frame and then the fact
Speaker 3: that he is only going to be playing in the,
Speaker 3: slot but he's going to be starting from day one
Speaker 3: for whoever, pay and he is your long term starting slot.
Speaker 3: GUY i mean that that's just what it's going to.
Speaker 3: Be he's also you, know what's interesting about him is
Speaker 3: he can win down the. Field he you, know he's
Speaker 3: smaller and he has a small. Wingspan, yeah so it's
Speaker 3: not a big catch, radius but he knows what he's
Speaker 3: doing running routes and that includes getting being able to
Speaker 3: stack guys when he's going down the. Field so for
Speaker 3: a slot, guy you get some more of.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 3: Uh this is the guy where earlier in his career
Speaker 3: he had some issues with concentration. Drops he seems to
Speaker 3: have solved that last year four zero point eight percent
Speaker 3: drop rate on a bunch of different. Targets take. That
Speaker 3: heel not bad at. All and this is the guy
Speaker 3: thirty nine career contested, opportunities he converted fifty one percent of.
Speaker 3: Them so it's like it's not, again it's a guy
Speaker 3: who can get down the. Field it's also a guy
Speaker 3: in congested quarters who can make the catch as. Well
Speaker 3: and he proved this pre draft. Process first of, all
Speaker 3: nobody could cover him in the one on ones in
Speaker 3: mobile and then he tested absolutely incredibly of the four
Speaker 3: to three nine he had a six eight two three
Speaker 3: cone way above, average four to one seven shut away,
Speaker 3: average forty one and a half inch vertical absolutely. Elite
Speaker 3: as broad jump was over eleven. Feet that was a
Speaker 3: lead to nine seven to three ras and he did
Speaker 3: all the. Tests So Jalen noah is a guy that
Speaker 3: fantasy owners need to keep a close eye.
Speaker 1: On he ran a four to three and he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a slot. Receiver i'm trying to think of how
Speaker 1: many other four to three guys are running from the
Speaker 1: slot in THE.
Speaker 3: Nfl and a guy who gets the top speed real.
Speaker 3: QUICK i mean you saw his tenure split a one
Speaker 3: five to. One was was you, know amongst the top
Speaker 3: ten of the receiver. Class it's it's a guy with
Speaker 3: and you KNOW i Mentioned. Shakir that's what he reminded
Speaker 3: me of down there in the one on. Ones that
Speaker 3: the frame is fairly. Similar of, course the way they'll
Speaker 3: be deployed as. Similar It's noel is a bit better
Speaker 3: of an. Athlete so that's the, one like you, know
Speaker 3: you sort of, say LIKE i don't want to say
Speaker 3: Rich man's that's probably taking a little bit, far but
Speaker 3: like you're getting a little bit more athletic juice out
Speaker 3: of a guy who the rest of his skill set
Speaker 3: it's rock, solid Like, Shakir are.
Speaker 1: We talking third For?
Speaker 3: NOEL i Think noel goes in the second especially in
Speaker 3: this receiver class that. Stinks, Yeah LIKE I i think
Speaker 3: he deserves to go in round. Two well we'll end
Speaker 3: up seeing but if THE nfl agrees with, me BUT
Speaker 3: i think he should be around to pick in this,
Speaker 3: class all, Right.
Speaker 1: Well we'll see how that plays itself. Out we've got,
Speaker 1: uh that's. UH i think we managed to hit on
Speaker 1: if you Include Travis. HUNTER i think we hit on
Speaker 1: nine or ten, guys which is not too. Bad we
Speaker 1: got to your top eight Plus Travis. Hunter we encourage
Speaker 1: people to check out all your work at fantasylife dot.
Speaker 1: Com you've got a lot more detail on a lot
Speaker 1: more receivers than the guys that we've covered. Here but
Speaker 1: great to get prepped up and ready to go at
Speaker 1: the receiver. Position and next week we get to break
Speaker 1: down tight ends at a Much is this one of
Speaker 1: the deepest classes of tight end in? Years it feels that.
Speaker 3: Way this is this is a good tight end. Class
Speaker 3: this is a really good tight, End it really.
Speaker 1: IS i, mean Brock bauer is obviously amazing last, year
Speaker 1: but we've got really highly productive college tight ends that
Speaker 1: are going to hit the. Here and it's you, know
Speaker 1: it's reasonable to talk about a bunch of, them whereas
Speaker 1: you know most of yours, past we're, like, well there's like,
Speaker 1: two maybe three guys that are gonna have a fantasy.
Speaker 1: Impact we GOTTA i think we've got the potential of
Speaker 1: like five or, six don't you think for tight ends
Speaker 1: that could be meaningful?
Speaker 3: Here, yes, yes and that's the. Number. YEAH i, LIKE
Speaker 3: i think we have five or six guys that are
Speaker 3: going to be contributing fairly early TO nfl passing.
Speaker 1: Offenses love. It we'll break down tight ends next. Week
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