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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decide to drop into the show.

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Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Paul Charchion.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm Paul Charchion, my guest,

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Speaker 1: as he has been for many of the last shows,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be for a few more thor nice strow,

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Speaker 1: Hey buddy, Hey, how you doing it? Is certainly your

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Speaker 1: time of year, isn't it? Ah? The best, the best?

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Speaker 1: And I know you're super busy. We love you find

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Speaker 1: time to get us up to speed on the rookies

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Speaker 1: every year, this time of year and this is this

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Speaker 1: is high demand thor season right here. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is like you know, for me, when I'm in like

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Speaker 1: late August early September and everybody's getting ready for their

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Speaker 1: guillotine drafts, that's my busy, busiest time of the year.

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Speaker 1: This is this month is just nuts for you or

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Speaker 1: are you all prepped up to the point that now

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Speaker 1: it's just easy? I mean, nothing's your evaluation of players

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Speaker 1: doesn't change much at this point. Right as we get

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Speaker 1: into April.

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Speaker 3: I would love to say the latter, but you know

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Speaker 3: you're going deeper into the position. You know, when you

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Speaker 3: do a five hundred player big board like I do

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Speaker 3: with the five hundred comps, like I mean, it becomes

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Speaker 3: a real discussion down the board draftable grades and then

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Speaker 3: down the board and then you know who's who's gonna

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Speaker 3: be on there, who's gonna miss it? But yeah, like

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Speaker 3: there's there's a lot of guys to watch and to

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Speaker 3: dig into to get to a five hundred player bard.

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Speaker 3: So now we will we will be going right up

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Speaker 3: to the draft.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, So we've got what rookie wide

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Speaker 1: receivers today, then next week tight ends week after that

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and and it's quarterback has seen Well, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: more about it when we get to that episode. Feels

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Speaker 1: like it's been fairly stable other than cam Ward now

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Speaker 1: moving to the presumed one to one from where this

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Speaker 1: was a while ago. But let's let's talk wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Just overall, we had had over the past four or

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Speaker 1: five years, we had had just these really deep classes

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Speaker 1: middle end of the draft. This one, to me doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel like as strong a class. So just talk to

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Speaker 1: me before we get into specific guys, talk to me

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Speaker 1: about this rookie class of wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like we talked about with the running back

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Speaker 3: class from the other direction. These things are cyclical, and

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Speaker 3: after we had a couple bad running back classes in

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Speaker 3: a row, now we have one of the best that

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Speaker 3: we've seen in the last fifteen twenty years. Whereas with

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Speaker 3: wide receivers, like you mentioned, we had some stacked wide

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Speaker 3: receiver classes here in the recent past, and that everything

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Speaker 3: is cyclical. You can't have an awesome position class every year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know you're going to get it on the other

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Speaker 3: we have that with this receiver class. This receiver class

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Speaker 3: is way way down from what we have seen in

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Speaker 3: the past couple of years. There are interesting prospects though,

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Speaker 3: there's a couple in here that absolutely should go in

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Speaker 3: as far as class quality, this receiver class does not

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Travis Hunter as his own

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Speaker 1: unique situation here, I think the fantasy utility on Travis

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Speaker 1: Hunter will be capped by just the snap count. But

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Speaker 1: talk to me about him. Where would if Travis Hunter

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Where would Travis Hunter fit into this? And

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Speaker 1: do you just disagree with my understanding that he's just

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Speaker 1: not going to be on the field enough for him

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Speaker 3: Question, he would be wide receiver one, yeah, bullet and

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Speaker 3: he and of course he'd be one with the bullet

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Speaker 3: that I do have a slightly different take as far

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Speaker 3: Travis Hunter wants to be the sho Heyo Tani of

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Speaker 3: the NFL. He's going to get that opportunity. That's something

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Speaker 3: be a one way player. He wants to play both ways.

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Speaker 3: You can't put him out there one hundred percent of

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Speaker 3: to be getting the ball to Travis Hunter. I think

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Speaker 3: the team and it has him, you will have one

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Speaker 3: Playboff he's on the field, they will be looking to

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Speaker 3: get him the ball. He's not gonna be out there

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Speaker 3: many running plays. They're not gonna ask him to block, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean that you're trying to keep him out of

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Speaker 1: And I think the catch with Travis Hunter is you

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Speaker 1: if he I think he's gonna have some two catch

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Speaker 1: be other games where he's gonna have five catches and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna do something special on three of them, and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have explosive games. And so to me, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the understanding that Travis Hunter is gonna have some

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Speaker 1: games where the volume just isn't there is that fair?

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Speaker 3: That is fair? And I think we're getting deeper into

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Speaker 3: say forty percent, I'm talking about over the ocean of

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Speaker 3: knock on when I say that. Yeah, But the way

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Speaker 3: only want him out there when he is juicing your

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Speaker 3: some hits for you here. Whereas games where they're closer throughout,

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Speaker 3: trying to look to get him the ball even more

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Speaker 1: You've got Travis Hunter. I'm looking at your most current

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Speaker 1: mock draft at fantasylife dot com. You've got Travis Hunter

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Speaker 1: going third to the Giants. Yeah, that's a you know,

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Speaker 1: it's Russell Wilson or Jameis Winston throwing him the ball, which, honestly,

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Speaker 1: that I think that would make sense for him to

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Speaker 3: At all, one thousand percent, and he would be a

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Speaker 3: perfect fit for the Giants as far as the dude

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Speaker 3: we'll say the forty percent of snaps as a rookie

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Speaker 3: banana for Elik Neighbors? Right, Like Elik Neighbors, He's gonna

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Speaker 3: he has longer arms than he should with his frame.

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Speaker 3: In fact, his arms are I believe just one inch shell.

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Speaker 3: so you're you're you're talking about to do with with

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Speaker 3: but talking about it, awesome second banana next to Moleague neighbors. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the Giants you obviously would have you for the first

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Speaker 1: There's that's Trevis Hunter and I do want to we

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Speaker 1: Day one and two receivers, guys that could go in

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Speaker 3: Well, with the Jaguars, you have Brian Thomas and you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, That makes sense. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: into your wide receivers. You're number one ranked wide receiver

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. And like T Higgins, I think Ted's

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Speaker 3: But his his separation rate against man coverage was very,

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Speaker 3: But Te's a very good receiver. It's not I would say,

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Speaker 1: You've got tet right now. Going to Dallas, had picked

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's go on our next receiver. Matthew Golden.

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Speaker 1: This is the speedster from Texas. You've comped him to

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Speaker 1: All right, Matthew Golden, And I'm pulling up your mock

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Speaker 3: they've done that for for a little bit now, right

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00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 3: locket and yeah, Golden Tape back in the day played

433
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 3: some out there. So yeah, I think I think Golden

434
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 3: would be a good fit.

435
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 1: When you're on a jet ski, it's awesome. Jet skis

436
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: are a blast. You know, you're powering through the water,

437
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 1: You're you know, you're doing big cuts of waves, you know,

438
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: and you open it up, you throttle open, You're going

439
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: Thi down the lake. Everybody hates you. Everybody on that

440
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 1: lake freaking hates you. It's so loud and noisy, you know,

441
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, like it's a pristine day. The water's calm.

442
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: You can hear loon in the background. And then.

443
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: And then Thor comes out of nowhere dressed like Kenny Powers.

444
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: Remember in Kenny Park, you ever watch He's bonding down

445
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 3: and Kenny Powers out there on the jet ski. He's

446
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 3: like dressed, you know, it's like dressed like a suit

447
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 3: and he's got a beer and every day like, yeah,

448
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 3: that's that. That's me coming out. Someone's dropping their morning

449
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 3: coffee on their.

450
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 1: Decks exactly exactly. It's like it's it's it's awesome for

451
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: you and it's bad for everybody around you. That is

452
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: that's the jet ski. Let's go to your number three

453
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: ranked receiver and if I I'm gonna you and I

454
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: are terrible with names, let's hope we get this right.

455
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 1: A mecha Eggbuka. Yeah, perfect, thank you. I've been I've

456
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 1: been working on that. Thank you very much. Your comp

457
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 1: here is the aforementioned Jackson Smith and Jigba. He is

458
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: a true slot receiver and you know whatever team, whatever

459
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 1: team takes him, is going to is going to need

460
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: to use him that way.

461
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, I mean he is your slot dude,

462
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 3: but what and he's not going to give you the

463
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 3: explosive plays he will give you. He will improve your

464
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 3: offensive your offensive efficiency right away. I mean, he's the

465
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 3: paper cut guy. He's going to pay per cut your

466
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 3: paper cut, your paper cut you. And the more space

467
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: that he has the work with, the more he's going

468
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 3: to abuse this single coverage. They're very, very good route runner.

469
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: He just understands what he's doing. And it's not like

470
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 3: this guy's a bumba an athlete. He was a former

471
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: five star recruit who was at the top of his

472
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 3: receiver class when he was coming out. Yeah, he went

473
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 3: into a receiver room that I believe had four other

474
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: first round wide receivers. Every time he got there, it

475
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: was a Lave Wilson, Marvin Harrison Junior, and JSN and

476
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 3: then him. He's going to be the fifth one from

477
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 3: the receiving Yeah, absolutely ridiculous. But the other you know,

478
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: I was talking about this with Ted Buka is even

479
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: better with his own coverage thing. It is just a

480
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: media He only needs like a half step from the

481
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: defense and he's like, okay, this is where they're going, right,

482
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: Like he just sees the whole chess board and he's

483
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 3: always available to his quarterback. You know, on those zone concepts,

484
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: he doesn't drop the ball five point five percent career

485
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 3: drop rate on two hundred five career receptions. And then

486
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 3: this is also a guy who is very good in

487
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 3: contested situations for a slot guy. And what that is

488
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 3: is on money downs when it was third and four,

489
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: third and six, whatever, they love to just try to

490
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: fit balls into windows too, Igbuga because they know he's

491
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 3: going to catch it his career. In his career, he

492
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 3: was twenty five of forty six in contested situations. And

493
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 3: it wasn't because he could not create separation. He absolutely can.

494
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 3: His separation rate was one of the highest in the

495
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: nation these past couple of years. It's because he is

496
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: so reliable. The quarterback will try to fit it into

497
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 3: a window when you just need those five yards and

498
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 3: he is going to convert for you. So he's going

499
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 3: to make an offense really happy.

500
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: All right, that's how much do you think he was

501
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: just aiighted by the rest of Ohio State's receiver room, right,

502
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, over the here he is running from the slot.

503
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: They've got these amazing boundary receivers who demand their own coverage.

504
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: And so I've had some people at least ask openly,

505
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: was Agbuka a product of Ohio State's amazing roster and

506
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: how much of that would it? You know, would that

507
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: same level of productivity automatically transfer to the NFL? Do

508
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: you think that's a fair concern.

509
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: I think it helped him in the same way that

510
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 3: it helped JSN because those two guys, the better the

511
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 3: boundary receivers are around them, the more space you get,

512
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: and they're going to destroy you in space. But it

513
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: didn't make either of them right, Like Egbuka was the

514
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 3: number one receiver in his class, and then we haven't

515
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: gotten the testing metrics on him. I don't really care

516
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 3: about that, though. There are numerous reports that he was

517
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 3: running in the four fourds in high school. And by

518
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: the way, real Analytics that does the in game data

519
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: on the chips, I've been looking at those a lot

520
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: more in my value, because the NFL has begun to

521
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: look at them a lot more in their evaluations, Eggbuka

522
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: had a ninety six point zero in game athleticism score.

523
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 3: So that's a combination of your your max speed, your

524
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: max acceleration, your max deceleration, your agility, you know, all

525
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: these sort of different things. Ninety six point zero means

526
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: he's a ninety six percentile athlete for that position. So

527
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: this is a guy who is a really good athlete

528
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: for the role that he plays in as all the

529
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: athleticism he needs, the apolish that he has as a receiver,

530
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: it speaks for hisself and so does the pedigree.

531
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: All right, when we when we come back from a breakthrough,

532
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: let's hit him four or five more wide receivers that

533
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: you think are going to be taken day one, day

534
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: two in that kind of range, including the next guy

535
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, a polarizing player, Luther Burden,

536
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: when we come back. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. Paul

537
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: charchiin Thorn Eistrom with you. Thanks for hanging out over

538
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: the break Luther Burden from Missouri. You've comped him to

539
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: Percy Harvin, but you know, I've seen a lot. I've

540
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: seen a lot of different opinions on him. People who

541
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: love the athleticism, the strength, and other people who see

542
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: some who see maybe at best a Deebo Samuel, an

543
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: inconsistent player who's got to get the ball behind the

544
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. You hope he breaks the tackle. What

545
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: do you think about Luther Burden and where do you

546
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: think he's going to go in this draft?

547
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: Church? Is it the rorshack test when they say your

548
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: response it says more about you than it does. Yeah,

549
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: that's that's Luther Burden, Because I feel like Luther Burden

550
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 3: has one of the more straightforward evaluations of any guy oka,

551
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 3: especially in this receiverse. He just is what he is.

552
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: He's the manufactured touch slot who is an absolute Ferrari

553
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 3: with the ball in his hands. But the limitation, of

554
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: course is, for whatever reason, that level of movement it

555
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: is not apparent with his route running, and so you

556
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 3: don't want him running down the field that there's not

557
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 3: a lot of the way I put it as salesman ship,

558
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: like he just doesn't have a good idea of putting

559
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 3: himself in the driver's seat of the other car and

560
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 3: thinking through like, oh, you know, if I was to

561
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: try to fool that guy, how would I do it?

562
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 3: Like there's just not a lot of that with his game.

563
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: He's not very sudden with that. But with the ball

564
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: in his hands, it's a different thing. And that's where

565
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: you know the Percy Harvin thing. It's the same sort

566
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 3: of a deal that propulsion going forward. You have the

567
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: noss button where you hit it and then all of

568
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: a sudden you're at top speed immediately, and just like

569
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: Percy Harvin, you get an element of power there right

570
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: where it becomes the acceleration times the forest time, you

571
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: know whatever that equation is from Einstein where he all

572
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: of a sudden he equals him squared right here. That's

573
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: that is exactly right. Yeah, it's it's it's the thing

574
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: of you know, he's only two hundred and six pounds,

575
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: but the speed. You know, usually we talk about speed

576
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: to power conversion from edge defenders. The same principle applies

577
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: here and you get the contact balance with some tackle

578
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: breaking power from Luther Burden because of that. But it

579
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: was really fun watching his tape because you got to see,

580
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: you know, both how good of an athlete he is,

581
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: but then also how creative Missouri's staff was, where all

582
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: these kinds of different concepts designed to get him the

583
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: ball in space like one of them. They'd have the

584
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: four receivers, and then they would have Burden lineup in

585
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: the backfield as the running back, so they technically have

586
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: five receivers on the field. They have three receivers on

587
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: one side. They would spray down the field just clear

588
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: out routes, and then they would leak Burden out of

589
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: the backfield exactly. Yeah, and you put him into basically

590
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: the whole playbook for Missouri the last couple of years.

591
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 3: The whole idea of it was get Luther the ball

592
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 3: in a situation where he just has to break one

593
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: tackle and we get an explosive play. So basically their

594
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: whole playbook was designed like that. The manufacturer touched off

595
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: the other thing. Every time you saw the defense going

596
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: to a drop zone, you were about to see a

597
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: four to five yard hitch route run from Luther Burden

598
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: and the ball coming right then. And for people out there,

599
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 3: hitch routes just a mini hook. You know, a hook

600
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: is like at ten eleven yards depth hitches four to five,

601
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: and you almost always see it with drop zones because

602
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: the wide receiver one on that team has been told, yeah,

603
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: just you see them all drop back, it's four or

604
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: five yards, turn around, the balls come in, and that's

605
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: what it was for Luther Burden. You get a free

606
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: catch and run opportunity. But yeah, I mean eighty four

607
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: of his career catches Luther Burden out of one hundred

608
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: and ninety two came behind the line of scrimmage, speaking

609
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: to how many of these touches were manufactured. And I

610
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: think charge with the debate of Luther Burden, you have

611
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: people that are in on Luther Burden, people out on

612
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: Luther Burden, even though again it's a straightforward evaluation. So

613
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: it's like, where are these these disagreements and these discrepancies

614
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: coming from. I think this has more to do with

615
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: the one is sort of the pratfalls of having a

616
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: job like mine that people don't understand, which is you

617
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: rank out a board as a media member. You don't

618
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: have an offensive scheme, you don't have an offensive coordinator

619
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: that's saying, hey, this is the scheme, this is the

620
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: position I need, this is the sort of player type

621
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: that I need for that position, right or advice of

622
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: on defense. And so because of that, you're just trying

623
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: to rank everyone in a vacuum, and the people that

624
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 3: don't like Luthor Burden. They're the ones saying, well, this

625
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: guy's not a wide receiver one in the NFL. He's

626
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: a manufactured touch guy. And how am I going to

627
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: put that value with you know, a guy that like

628
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: Tad or you know, one of these different Matthew gold

629
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: and whatever. But like, whereas the people that love him

630
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: are like, this guy's clearly the best with the ball

631
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: in his hands. He is going to manufacture yards and

632
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: if he finds the right situation, he's going to put

633
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: up Ludacris numbers. And both sides are right, you know

634
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: what I mean, It's just we don't know what situation

635
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: he's going into. This is a situation specific player right

636
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: where he needs to get into that thing in the

637
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: best one for him would be the team that has

638
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: the best boundary receiver. That's right, Yes, that's what it is,

639
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: because you will naturally create that space. I was talking

640
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: about that with like Buka, he wins before the catch.

641
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: Luther Burden is winning after the catch, and the more

642
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: space that is provided for him, now it can be

643
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: a thing where you're in you just have that one

644
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: tackle to break and then you get the explosive play

645
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: but that's Luther Burden.

646
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: Let me give you the ideal landing spot for Luther Burden. Yeah, Bengals.

647
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: Bengals would be good. Bengals would be really good. That

648
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: is Larry David. That would be pretty pretty good.

649
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: It would be. My worry on Luther Burden is just this.

650
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: It's all these short catches. You noted forty four percent

651
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: of his catches were behind the line of scrimmage. We've

652
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: seen this with Deebo Samuel where he'll have a four

653
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: catch game and you know, most of those catches are

654
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: added near the line of scrimmage, and if he doesn't

655
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: break a tackle, he gets tackled near the line of

656
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: scrimmage and you've got a you know, this is just

657
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: a fantasy standpoint. You've got a four catch, thirty yard

658
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: game on your hands, and that's that. You know, that's

659
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: not saying, but we all know that Deebo Samuel can

660
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: also be incredibly special and when he you know, when

661
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: he does break a tackle, cyon are a highlight time

662
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: and we remember those things. I think there's going to

663
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: be just good and bad games for Luther Burden, depending

664
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: a lot, of course on landing spot. Do you uh

665
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: do you see, like Percy Harvin went in the he

666
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: fell to the middle of the second round when he

667
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: was drafted in part because of personality concerns and character

668
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: concerns and stuff like that, much of which ended up

669
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: being actually pretty valid. Where do you have Luther Burden

670
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: going not in the first round. I don't believe.

671
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: Well, Percy actually was twenty second overall.

672
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: Oh was he okay? Thanks Zicher, I had misremembered.

673
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Luther he's right, you know, right on

674
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: that line. Whether it is at the very end of

675
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: Thursday night or whether it is right away on Friday night,

676
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be one of the two. I

677
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: think Luther Burden is a top forty pick, but I'm

678
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: not definitely not saying Locke for the first round. But

679
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: but if he gets out of it, like I said,

680
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see teams trying to move up

681
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: for him, because you're gonna have the teams where like

682
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: you saw last year at Missouri, the reason his stats

683
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: were down is because the offense wasn't his gut. It

684
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: didn't have anything to do with Luther Burden. It had

685
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: to do with the fact that defenses could collapse on

686
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: him because Missouri didn't have a running game anymore, and

687
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: they the other receivers weren't great, and the quarterback play

688
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: was atrocia. So he got ganged up on and he

689
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: got frustrated by that, et cetera. But it shows again

690
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: you need to get this guy into a situation where

691
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: he's an awesome for instant third banana, which is what

692
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: it would be with the Bengals. Yeah, that's how his

693
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 3: game plays up. He is not a Michael Jordan. He's uh,

694
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: you know my basketball metaphor sting Scottie Piper a little

695
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: or or you know, a Dennis Rodman.

696
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: I guess if I were to put Burden on the

697
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: team based in if he is going to go early

698
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: second round, it's not very exciting, but I could see

699
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: Tennessee going cam Ward and then second round Luther Bird.

700
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: Kim Ward loves thrown into the slot, just as every

701
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: strippo about that.

702
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: All right, well there you go. That's so I'll go

703
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: to war with that prediction. Uh, your fifth rank running back, Sorry,

704
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver Jaden Higgins from Iowa State. This is not

705
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: Iowa State had two really good wide receivers. It turns

706
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: out yeah, highly productive. Your comp here is Kenny Galladay,

707
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: which makes people go, oh, but how about this rass

708
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: nine point nine to two holy cow?

709
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and incredible at that size. The six' four

710
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: and change two fourteen runs the four four seven has

711
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: the thirty nine inch Vertical and this, guy this guy

712
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: has the wingspan of an offensive. Tackle we're at the

713
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 3: eighty with. Him so he's got the super duper long

714
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: arms and he's a he's a smooth operator out. There

715
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: the movement is really really smooth with. Him the thing

716
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: he doesn't Have it wasn't a surprise to see him

717
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: duck the three cone and the shuttle the side decide

718
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: agility isn't, great but the north south stuff. Is and

719
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: you can build a route tree around him where you

720
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: can leverage his. Strengths just have him going north south,

721
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: right like you don't the rout breaks with, You like

722
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: you don't want him running the whip route for. You

723
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: you have another guy doing. That but this is a

724
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: guy that can win. Downtown he can also win short and.

725
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: INTERMEDIATE i mean that's more stuff like the slants and the. Drags,

726
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: yeah but he doesn't he doesn't drop in, thing and

727
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: he's got the catch, radius LIKE i, said is absolutely.

728
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: Enormous but his career drop rate over four seasons and

729
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty targets three point zero.

730
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: Perds that's.

731
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 3: It that is. Absurd that's a drop a year thor

732
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: it's absolutely. Insane and then three consecutive seasons with two

733
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: point two percent drop rate or. Less it's only at

734
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: three percent because he dropped a couple more his true

735
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: freshman season when he was in THE. Fcs so he

736
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 3: does not drop. Balls and that includes in contested situations

737
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: deep forty five of eighty one career contested catch situations

738
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 3: For higgins in this bad receiver, CLASS i just really

739
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: like what he brings to the. Table this is the

740
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 3: guy who's going to be a really good wide receiver

741
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 3: two boundary guy in THE nfl for a long long.

742
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: Time so, okay if he's gonna be vertical downfield is

743
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: where he's gonna be really. Helpful how about that we

744
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: talked about The. Cowboys how about this is Your cowboys landing.

745
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: Spot it picked forty four where you, KNOW cd can

746
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: do a lot of, things all the amazing separation and,

747
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: everything but, see he's not a deep downfield. Burner this would.

748
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: Give this would feel like a natural compliment To Ceedee

749
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: lamb for me If Jayden higgins found his way To.

750
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 3: Dallas, Yes, Jayden, YEAH i mean he's actually the guy

751
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: that they want a mingo to, be AND i guess

752
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: The panthers want a mingo to be. Before but this

753
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: is actually that that guy that is gonna win for

754
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: you on the boundary.

755
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: Consistently all, right let's go to your number six rank wide,

756
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: Receiver Elick iomanor DID I i THINK i got that?

757
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: Right is it IOMANOR iomannera? Nice i'm two for two

758
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: on tricky. Names it's like it's.

759
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: Like lord of the manor But? Iomanner?

760
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: OH i like? It all, right your comp Here's Brailan.

761
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: Edwards When Braylon edwards came, OUT i thought he was

762
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: gonna be, great AND i really ended up being a very,

763
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: middling underproductive career and that was kind of a. Bummer

764
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: he hid national prominence a couple of years ago when

765
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: he Roasted Travis. Hunter, right had almost three hundred yards

766
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: in that, game and all of a, sudden people are

767
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: taking are Following Elick.

768
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: Iomanor, YEAH i mean this is a big boundary receiver

769
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: six two two oh, six and he has the downtown

770
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: wheels and he knows what he's doing down the, field

771
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: the ball skills and then pinning people behind that big

772
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 3: muscular frame of. His but this is a former track.

773
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: STAR i don't think people realize how athletic he, was

774
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: but at that size he ran a four four four

775
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: and thirty eight and a half vertical is spectacular at that.

776
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: Size you see that propulsion off the, snap but it's

777
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: it's a there's rawness to his. Game this is a

778
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: kid who came From canada and so he picked up

779
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: the sport late and then when he went to, college

780
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 3: it was At stanford and they have an abysmal passing,

781
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 3: attack so they they sort of used them and in

782
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: sort of this sort of limited way where it was

783
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: it was leveraging the downfield. Stuff but he is really

784
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: really good down the. Field As Travis hunter learned first

785
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: hand in that game in twenty twenty, three you don't

786
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: get a, lot you, know of the yak with With

787
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: iomanner because a lot of those those plays where you're

788
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: getting value from, him it is further down the, field

789
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: so so that that's where you see that the speed,

790
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: leverage but it needs a little bit of. Work it's

791
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: not a finished package right. Now you're gonna have to

792
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 3: work on the routes a little, bit especially if you

793
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: want to try to get him winning in the intermediate section.

794
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: More and then the release package is a little bit

795
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: raw as. Well but they're the physical package. Here and

796
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: the ceiling is one of the highest in the. Class

797
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: so when you just look at it like, That so

798
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: who is gonna take a swing On Io manners upside

799
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 3: walk to see on that there is a lower floor

800
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: than some of these other, guys but one of the

801
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: higher ceilings in the receiver.

802
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: Class i've Got iomanner going sixty two To. Buffalo buffalo

803
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: needs the receiver. HELP i feel like end of second

804
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: round does end the second round feel about right for?

805
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: Him, YEAH i mean it's gonna. Be it's gonna be

806
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: somewhere there in the second, round and we'll have to

807
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: see where the other wide receivers end up. Going but,

808
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: YEAH i would probably IF i had to, say, RIGHT

809
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 3: i probably put it middle. Second but would it be

810
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: a surprise felt in the Second, no it wouldn't at,

811
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: All like because again there is the rawness to his,

812
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: game And i'm curious the sort of situational assumptions that

813
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 3: teams are, making you, know that are shopping for receivers

814
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: there on day two of like this isn't a great receiver,

815
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 3: class and then should we buy the Floor we're about

816
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,479
Speaker 3: to talk about more of a floor prospect or should

817
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: we get a ceiling on a guy Like Io. Manner

818
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: it's going to be really interesting to see that as.

819
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: Well, yeah and Maybe Kean coleman ends up being great

820
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: in his second season and The bills don't go this,

821
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: direction BUT i think they could Use they could use

822
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: some depth of the. POSITION i want to hit two

823
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: more guys and let's do. Them we'll have to do

824
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: them a little bit more. Quickly Trey harris from Ole.

825
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: Miss your comp here Is Alan. Robbinson he was highly,

826
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: productive went healthy at Ole, miss but some worry that

827
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: that production was a byproduct of a first repassing scheme

828
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: From Jackson. DART i Like Trey.

829
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: Harris he's been producing for a long. Time he got

830
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 3: on the field early when he went To louisiana tack

831
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 3: and then he transferred up a course into The Lane

832
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: kiffin offense and he was the wide receiver. One and

833
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 3: the biggest criticis About jackson darts evaluation as he locked

834
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: into the first rue through the first read all the,

835
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: time that was Tray. Harris, yeah, right SO i mean

836
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: this guy's. Good he is. Reliable but, yeah and just

837
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: speaking to that last, year five point one five yards

838
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: per route. Run, NO i did not. Speak that is. Gigantic,

839
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: holy that is like It it's like you're two and

840
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: a half is really?

841
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: Good right, right you're.

842
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: Double it is absolutely. Absurd and those games where he was,

843
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: healthy he averaged almost one hundred and thirty yards per game,

844
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: Receiving so, LIKE i, mean that is legit doing that

845
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: in THE. Sec but you, know to the point of

846
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 3: sort of the empty calorie. Stats he had seventy nine

847
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 3: targets last. Year forty of them came on either hitch

848
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: routes we talked about hitch routs before or wide receiver.

849
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: Screens that's as empty calory as it. Gets and then

850
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: With harris that the other stuff he would. Do you

851
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: have the downtown, stuff and he is a good down

852
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: the field, receiver but you'd have, that and then you'd

853
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: have the slants right, there there Wasn't this isn't a,

854
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: guy it's another. Guy he ain't gonna do any whip

855
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 3: routes for, you you, know the agility, thing and now

856
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 3: we snap off the clean break and it's our kami

857
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: and now we're going To he's not going to do

858
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: that stuff for, you but if you can par that

859
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: route treat down for. Him the hands are. Reliable he

860
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 3: has that big. Frame he's athletic in that big. Frame

861
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: so that's what you're gonna get from. Him but, yeah

862
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 3: just keep in mind with those, stats how much of

863
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: it was empty?

864
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: Calorie all, Right last, GUY i want to hit, On Jaalen,

865
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: noel who is somebody That i've seen a lot of

866
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: people falling in love, with and there's a lot of

867
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: people that like. Him you comped him to one of

868
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: my favorite, Guys Khalil, shakier so you, Know i'm automatically

869
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: super interested. Here and this is Another iowa state guy

870
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: who This Jaylen noel playing in the Slot Jaden higgins

871
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: on the.

872
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 3: Outside, Yeah Jalen noel is just so. Reliable this is

873
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: you talk about high. Floors this is one of the

874
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 3: higher floor receivers in this entire. Class this, ceiling, though of,

875
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: course is cap by the frame and then the fact

876
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: that he is only going to be playing in the,

877
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: slot but he's going to be starting from day one

878
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: for whoever, pay and he is your long term starting slot.

879
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: GUY i mean that that's just what it's going to.

880
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: Be he's also you, know what's interesting about him is

881
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 3: he can win down the. Field he you, know he's

882
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: smaller and he has a small. Wingspan, yeah so it's

883
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: not a big catch, radius but he knows what he's

884
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: doing running routes and that includes getting being able to

885
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: stack guys when he's going down the. Field so for

886
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: a slot, guy you get some more of.

887
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: That.

888
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: Uh this is the guy where earlier in his career

889
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: he had some issues with concentration. Drops he seems to

890
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 3: have solved that last year four zero point eight percent

891
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: drop rate on a bunch of different. Targets take. That

892
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: heel not bad at. All and this is the guy

893
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 3: thirty nine career contested, opportunities he converted fifty one percent of.

894
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: Them so it's like it's not, again it's a guy

895
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 3: who can get down the. Field it's also a guy

896
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 3: in congested quarters who can make the catch as. Well

897
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: and he proved this pre draft. Process first of, all

898
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: nobody could cover him in the one on ones in

899
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: mobile and then he tested absolutely incredibly of the four

900
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 3: to three nine he had a six eight two three

901
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: cone way above, average four to one seven shut away,

902
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 3: average forty one and a half inch vertical absolutely. Elite

903
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 3: as broad jump was over eleven. Feet that was a

904
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: lead to nine seven to three ras and he did

905
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: all the. Tests So Jalen noah is a guy that

906
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: fantasy owners need to keep a close eye.

907
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: On he ran a four to three and he's gonna

908
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: be a slot. Receiver i'm trying to think of how

909
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: many other four to three guys are running from the

910
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: slot in THE.

911
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 3: Nfl and a guy who gets the top speed real.

912
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 3: QUICK i mean you saw his tenure split a one

913
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: five to. One was was you, know amongst the top

914
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: ten of the receiver. Class it's it's a guy with

915
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: and you KNOW i Mentioned. Shakir that's what he reminded

916
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: me of down there in the one on. Ones that

917
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: the frame is fairly. Similar of, course the way they'll

918
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: be deployed as. Similar It's noel is a bit better

919
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: of an. Athlete so that's the, one like you, know

920
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: you sort of, say LIKE i don't want to say

921
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: Rich man's that's probably taking a little bit, far but

922
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: like you're getting a little bit more athletic juice out

923
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: of a guy who the rest of his skill set

924
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: it's rock, solid Like, Shakir are.

925
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: We talking third For?

926
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: NOEL i Think noel goes in the second especially in

927
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: this receiver class that. Stinks, Yeah LIKE I i think

928
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: he deserves to go in round. Two well we'll end

929
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 3: up seeing but if THE nfl agrees with, me BUT

930
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: i think he should be around to pick in this,

931
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: class all, Right.

932
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: Well we'll see how that plays itself. Out we've got,

933
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: uh that's. UH i think we managed to hit on

934
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: if you Include Travis. HUNTER i think we hit on

935
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: nine or ten, guys which is not too. Bad we

936
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: got to your top eight Plus Travis. Hunter we encourage

937
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: people to check out all your work at fantasylife dot.

938
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: Com you've got a lot more detail on a lot

939
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: more receivers than the guys that we've covered. Here but

940
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: great to get prepped up and ready to go at

941
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: the receiver. Position and next week we get to break

942
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: down tight ends at a Much is this one of

943
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: the deepest classes of tight end in? Years it feels that.

944
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 3: Way this is this is a good tight end. Class

945
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: this is a really good tight, End it really.

946
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: IS i, mean Brock bauer is obviously amazing last, year

947
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: but we've got really highly productive college tight ends that

948
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: are going to hit the. Here and it's you, know

949
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: it's reasonable to talk about a bunch of, them whereas

950
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: you know most of yours, past we're, like, well there's like,

951
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: two maybe three guys that are gonna have a fantasy.

952
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: Impact we GOTTA i think we've got the potential of

953
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: like five or, six don't you think for tight ends

954
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: that could be meaningful?

955
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 3: Here, yes, yes and that's the. Number. YEAH i, LIKE

956
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 3: i think we have five or six guys that are

957
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: going to be contributing fairly early TO nfl passing.

958
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: Offenses love. It we'll break down tight ends next. Week

959
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,480
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