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Speaker 1: Brian no Rich Hornberger and Jared Smith.

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Speaker 2: Oh what is going on?

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Speaker 3: Happy Saturday to you. Hope your days off to a

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Speaker 3: fantastic start.

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Speaker 4: We can add to it. Good morning, fellas.

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Speaker 3: We got a Jared Smith, Rich Hornberger here, how you

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Speaker 3: fellas doing everything?

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Speaker 2: Good? Life good? One is good.

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Speaker 5: Well, I will say this life is good for us.

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Speaker 5: Life life isn't great.

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Speaker 2: For the Indiana Pacers. Well that was uh, that was

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Speaker 2: not I would say it's finish.

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Speaker 5: I think obviously there were a lot of people who

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Speaker 5: are vetting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, see the whole way they were due.

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Speaker 5: To win a finals if you listened to all the

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Speaker 5: experts talking about the metal, all of them, but a

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Speaker 5: chorus of experts talking about them leaving the regular season

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Speaker 5: into the postseason bracket. And there were some twists and turns,

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Speaker 5: but they ultimately won it all. The Indiana Pacers put

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Speaker 5: up one hell of a fight, But that injury to

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Speaker 5: Haliburton in the first quarter and then everything that really

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Speaker 5: exceeded that is what proved to us all along that

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Speaker 5: our eyes were not lying to us. That OKAC was

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Speaker 5: a dogged, smart, talented team and Indiana was as well.

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Speaker 5: They just didn't have enough on the night that it

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel bad for Haliburt.

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Speaker 7: I know we're going to talk about it later, and

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Speaker 7: he probably shouldn't have played in Game six. I'm assuming

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Speaker 7: if it was any other situation, he would not have

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Speaker 6: And then you saw.

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Speaker 7: I mean to be fair too, man Achilles Tendons in

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Speaker 7: the postseason just didn't didn't agree Tatum, Lillard, Halliburton. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it was a very difficult postseason to watch for injuries.

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Speaker 7: But you credit okay See. They were They were the

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Speaker 7: better team over the long haul. Maybe they weren't the

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Speaker 7: best team in that series at times, and they didn't

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Speaker 7: look like a champion at times in that series, But

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Speaker 7: the NBA postseason is freaking long, and the regular season

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Speaker 7: is even freaking longer, and I think it's fair to

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Speaker 6: Of time, okay See was the best team in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, first thing that's odd is that all three

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Speaker 3: guys that you mentioned, Jared with Achilles Tears, they all

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Speaker 3: wear number zero.

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Speaker 6: That's also weird, right wow?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or twilight Zone they used to say, with the

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Speaker 3: Blazers wearing the letter oh Damian Lillard. So I don't

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Speaker 3: know if Tatum and Halliburton think of it as the

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Speaker 3: letter Jaron Fears.

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Speaker 6: Just picked that number for New Orleans zero fears. How

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Speaker 6: about that?

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Speaker 8: For ah?

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Speaker 3: That's pretty cool, but slogan. We do have a couple

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Speaker 3: of gems from game seven. I mean, this is glass

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Speaker 3: half full here because Jared, we do have this in

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Speaker 3: our arsenal going forward.

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Speaker 2: Pacers in seven.

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Speaker 3: We do have that. I kind of like this because

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Speaker 3: he punches the p.

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Speaker 4: He punches the P in this other one, here.

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Speaker 2: You go, Pacers in seven.

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Speaker 3: That sounds a little bit dramatic with the music and

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Speaker 3: it kind of like dies when he's at Pacers and

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Speaker 3: the music's like whoa, whoa, not the thunder Pacers. Here

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Speaker 3: you go one more time.

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Speaker 2: Pacers in seven.

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Speaker 6: That should be your fantasy football name this year.

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Speaker 2: Rich the Pacers in seven.

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Speaker 5: Right now, you'll see it when when Bo gets back

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Speaker 5: into the main studio and connects me to our our

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Speaker 5: our zoom calls, so that our friends from across.

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Speaker 7: You Oh yeah, we we We've got a new one.

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Speaker 5: And it says I was wrong about Indy.

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Speaker 7: You're not trying to like Catfish US or Gaslight US.

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Speaker 7: This is what we love about this show. There's always

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Speaker 7: audio evidence of everything that happens.

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Speaker 5: Well, go ahead, yeah, really quick, Brian, and I'll tell

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Speaker 5: last week. The narrative is always written by the victors.

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Speaker 5: You don't get to write the narrative if you lose.

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Speaker 5: You don't get to tell everybody how good you are

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Speaker 2: Doesn't get to beat their chest.

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Speaker 5: And so oh, when I say I was wrong about

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Speaker 2: Said Pacers in seven.

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Speaker 5: But beyond that, I was also wrong about a lot

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the.

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Speaker 5: Way I felt about the Pacers going into Game seven.

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Speaker 5: There were a lot of things they aren't and they

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Speaker 5: week ago today, I said the exact words.

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Speaker 5: I will feel differently about them a week from today

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Speaker 5: everybody else, because look, that's just like I said last week.

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Speaker 5: The Romans wrote history because the Romans conquered lands for

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Speaker 5: over a thousand years. You know, we don't know much

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Speaker 2: To write history.

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Speaker 5: The Greeks get to write history because they were the

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Speaker 5: else gets forgotten, but the winners and the champions get remembered.

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Speaker 5: And so I was wrong about Indy.

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Speaker 3: Well, hey, you know it happens, that's right. Let someone

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Speaker 3: first you know, yeah, yeah, we'll get back to the finals.

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Speaker 3: But I want to hold in on the draft here

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Speaker 3: because there's a storyline that is very interesting now and

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Speaker 3: going forward that would be the Utah Jazz drafting Ace

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Speaker 4: So the backstory, this is all you have to know.

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Speaker 3: Ace Bailey is like, I do not want to go

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Speaker 3: Utah Jazz. A little more context, Ace Bailey did not

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Speaker 3: saw the press conference with Cooper Flag number one pick.

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Speaker 3: He's over there at Dallas headquarters. They have the whole layout.

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Speaker 3: So most teams do that. The Utah Jazz do not

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Speaker 3: require that. Their other first round pick, Walter Clayton Junior,

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Speaker 3: he was there. Ace Bailey was not. However, he is

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Speaker 3: although he's doing his Steve Francis, it's sort of like

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Speaker 3: But it looks like Ace Bailey is going to eventually

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Speaker 3: do you think it's a good or a bad move

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Speaker 3: by Utah drafting a guy who initially had no interest?

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Speaker 3: And before I handed off to you, Rich, I was

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Speaker 3: thinking about this before the show. What comes close in

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Speaker 3: life to this whole thing playing out? It would be

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Speaker 3: to me like a girl has zero interest in you.

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Speaker 3: You know, It's almost like the scene in Dumb and

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Speaker 4: And that's it.

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Speaker 3: Like, who would have the nuts to do that? But

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what the Jazz just did with this draft

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Speaker 3: pick of Ace Bailey. Your thoughts on this, Rich, You

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 5: The meme it reminds me of is the Father's Day

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Speaker 2: Mom probably wasn't in the mood. Here's the deal.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes pursuit leads to the greatest gifts in.

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Speaker 2: Life, you know.

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Speaker 5: I And it's funny, like, yeah, maybe the Utah Jazz.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the Utah Jazz.

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Speaker 5: Are a little over their skis here because Ace Bailey

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Speaker 2: But instead Ace was like, nah, I'm good.

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Speaker 5: So the only reason why we know that it isn't

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Speaker 5: an expectation of the Utah Jazz for draft picks to

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: But again going back to my original point, it takes

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: There ain't no baby without mom and dad, you know.

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Speaker 5: So if there's interest in pursuit on one end, and

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Speaker 5: you have a party that can be convinced, well then

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Speaker 5: let's get it on, so to speak. I mean, Ace

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Speaker 5: Bailey may may have felt leading up to the draft,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to go to Utah. I don't want

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Speaker 5: the Jazz to draft me. All indications were pointing to

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Speaker 5: all works out in the end, don't the ends justify

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Speaker 5: the means, I would say yes.

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Speaker 2: I would say yes.

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Speaker 7: I First of all, I plaud the Ange brothers, Danny

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Speaker 7: they stood firm and that is commendable. We'll see if

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Speaker 7: it works out for them, but it was at least

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Speaker 7: a commendable stance because if you look at the top

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Speaker 7: there was no chance as Bailey was going to go

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Speaker 7: one or two like obviously Cooper flag one that's been

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Speaker 7: He didn't want to work out for Philly. He didn't

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Speaker 3: He reportedly approached pre draft meetings, and there are all

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Speaker 4: And in some of these meetings he was.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't there but Ace Bailey for sure was all of

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Speaker 4: That good good stuff in Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 3: It's verified with Ace Bailey and more or less it

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Speaker 3: If Shador did that, it does show you the difference

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Speaker 5: And it's a very similar story, right because easily pre draft,

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Speaker 5: And when you look at and when you look at

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Speaker 5: which is inarguably a more selfish sport. You know, it's

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Speaker 7: By the way, I misspoke earlier Age Brothers Austin as

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Speaker 6: It was in the past you have to move forward.

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Speaker 7: Unfortunately, Shador was moving forward a little bit too quickly.

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Speaker 7: Slow down, Shador.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna be okay. But just slow down, Bud.

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Speaker 7: But with A's like, if you shows up and he

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Speaker 6: We will not be talking if he shows up.

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Speaker 7: Unlike Shador Sanders, I do think Ace Bailey is going

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Speaker 6: This jazz team. Are they gonna win a lot of games?

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Speaker 7: Averaging a double double and he's playing up to expectation,

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Speaker 6: Things, I don't think we're gonna be talking about this anymore.

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Speaker 7: I think this is an opportunity for him to learn,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why I didn't grab the audio, said

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Speaker 3: goes the Achilles, and there goes next season entirely, which

441
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 3: is just a bitter pill man.

442
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: And it really reminded me of Kevin Durant.

443
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: How could it not remember the final series against the

444
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 3: Toronto Raptors where KD had the calf injury. Similarly crushing

445
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: it in the first quarter. What do you have like

446
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 3: twelve first quarter points? He was killing, He was dicing

447
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: up Toronto, and the next thing you know, he starts

448
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,959
Speaker 3: to drive and there went the Achilles. What's different to

449
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: me between KD and Tyre is just their styles. They

450
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: play the game much differently. You look at KD, and

451
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: he was never a guy that just relied on raw athleticism.

452
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: It was just attacking the racket, you.

453
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

454
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: Like he was just a guy where after an achilles tear,

455
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: he was gonna be just fine. There are some people

456
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: like I don't know Achilles. I'm like, dude, he's a

457
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: seven footer that can just drain Jays all day in

458
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: your face. His game is gonna translate to old just fine.

459
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: Tyrese Haliburton. He relies on athleticism a lot. It's a

460
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: big part of his game, driving to the basket, getting

461
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 3: to the paint, looking to create for himself or kick

462
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: it for an open shot. Like that's a big part

463
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: of his game. And so if he doesn't have that

464
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: for a little bit of time, he's gonna have to

465
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: adapt and change the way he approaches basketball a lot.

466
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 3: That's that's what's so cool.

467
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: Man.

468
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: It's one thing to lose Game seven, but when you're

469
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 3: losing an entire season on top of that, man, that

470
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 3: is a tough blow right there.

471
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 5: It's a tough blow unfortunately or fortunately, depending how you

472
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 5: look at it for betters who had the unders on props,

473
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 5: which our parlay platter hit as a result.

474
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: It is what it is.

475
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 5: You know what I mean it like you can, Here's

476
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 5: what I'll say to your comparison. If Tom Brady blows

477
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 5: out his achilles, he's gonna come back and be just fine.

478
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 5: If Lamar Jackson blows out his achilles, yeah, there's major

479
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 5: concern about not only Lamar's future, but the future of

480
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 5: the Baltimore Ravens. Everything goes under the microscope like this

481
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 5: is so unfortunate for so many reasons. But one of

482
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 5: the main through lines, one of the main storylines that

483
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 5: we will follow into next season and beyond, is will

484
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 5: Tyrese Burton ever be the same basketball player again? And

485
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 5: the answer, unfortunately most likely is no, because complete achilles

486
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 5: ruptures and repairs. While they're better than they've ever been,

487
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 5: oftentimes the athlete when they come back, they're at further

488
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 5: risk of having reinjury to that same that same achilles,

489
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 5: but also they're at a higher risk of rupturing. There

490
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 5: are other achilles they're at higher risk of injuring themselves,

491
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 5: you know, other you know, lower body load, load bearing

492
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 5: joints giving out on them. I mean, this could set

493
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 5: off a daisy chain of events for him personally.

494
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: And that's the part of this story.

495
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 5: That sucks the most is he he went into this

496
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 5: postseason trying to defeat the moniker overrated and he almost

497
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 5: did it, and instead he gets to watch basketball next season.

498
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 5: My stomach turns over for him.

499
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, Pacers in general, I mean, it's just it's a

500
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 7: tough you know, you make it all the way to

501
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 7: the end of the rainbow, like literally the last breath

502
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 7: of the season, and losing the game is hard enough.

503
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 7: I mean, it's one thing just to get to Game

504
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 7: seven of the Finals and lose. It's another thing to

505
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 7: get there, lose and then lose your your.

506
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 6: Star player in the process.

507
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 7: I'll take a page out of his colleague Jason Tatum's book,

508
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 7: who doesn't tweet much, but in the last couple months,

509
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 7: he's posted two.

510
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 6: Tweets since his injury.

511
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 7: Twenty five days after he posted day twenty five days

512
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 7: starting to get a little easier, then yesterday he posted

513
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 7: day forty five.

514
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 3: This is some bleep.

515
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 6: I can't say it on the air, yeah, you know,

516
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 6: Like and.

517
00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 7: Now we're just at day six for Tyrese, right, Like,

518
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 7: at least Tatum had a couple of months head start

519
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 7: on this, because you know, Boston was knocked out pretty

520
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 7: early in the postseason. Tyrie's I mean, this is tough.

521
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 7: This is probably the I can't think of a worst

522
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 7: case scenario, like I honestly can't, other than losing Game seven.

523
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 7: Like that's worse enough that I wouldn't wish that upon

524
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 7: anyone getting to a Game seven, especially for a team

525
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 7: that hasn't won it before and a franchise that has

526
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 7: never won an NBA title, another one, an ABA title,

527
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 7: never an NBA title. You get that close to touching

528
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 7: greatness and then you fall short. But in the process,

529
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 7: you also lose one of your stars for another season,

530
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 7: and it impacts not only this year, but the next year.

531
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 7: And I would argue that we saw this with Denver.

532
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 7: We've seen this with championship teams that have to go

533
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 7: through the grind of the postseason year after year after year.

534
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 7: The NBA postseason is really long. It takes its toll,

535
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 7: even if you're healthy. I think it bleeds into the

536
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 7: next year. And now you've got this situation with that,

537
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 7: I mean, it's really tough. I honestly, I sound super

538
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 7: selfish when I say this because it helped us win

539
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 7: bets last Sunday, But I can't grasp it from the

540
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 7: perspective of Tyrese and his teammates having to go through that.

541
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 7: It is an incredibly calcifying and I mean, I'm sure

542
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 7: it'll bring them together because you know, obstacles, anniversary and

543
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 7: those types of situations always do.

544
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 6: But it's a really tough pill to swallow.

545
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's brutal, man. And that's the thing is, you

546
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: don't want to win bets like that exactly. It's you

547
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: should feel dirty if you're doing like a Tiger Woods

548
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: fist pump because the bet cash is and Halliburton's on

549
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: the shelf for over a season, you know, like that's

550
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: and that's the thing is, it's the layers of suck,

551
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: as I would put it right, like, you lose Game seven,

552
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: you lose Haliburton for the next season. Then you have

553
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: to wonder, what if what if he didn't get hurt,

554
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: even if he's not one hundred percent, the Pacers are

555
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: still live in that game in the second half, right

556
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: at e lite at halftime, what if Halliburton is still

557
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: draining shots throughout the evening, you might have won win

558
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: the game.

559
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 6: Frankly, you might have won.

560
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: And I also think the mental hurdles anybody who's been hurt,

561
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: especially in the professional ranks, it is a whole mental

562
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: battle when you're going through rehab, and there are a.

563
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: Lot of players that they just feel worthless.

564
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: They feel like I'm supposed to be contributing, I'm here

565
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: just taking up space on the sideline or the bencher.

566
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: It's a whole identity blow, like a blow to your

567
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: I'm known as I'm a guy who's a star basketball player,

568
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: star football player, and I'm not out there contributing. It's

569
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: a whole thing. And so it's not just the physical part.

570
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: It's the whole mental part, and it's just starting for Tyrese.

571
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: It sucks. That's heartbreaking, but that's the reality of sports man.

572
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: These injuries are. I'll tell you what. There's another cruel

573
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: reality for another player. I thought of Josh Giddy. So

574
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: he used to play for Oklahoma City.

575
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

576
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: With the Thunder when they were a young team and

577
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: going through all their growing pains. He started eighty games

578
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: for OKC two years ago and then heading into you know,

579
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: last June before this last season, okay see traded him

580
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: for Alex Caruso straight up, and so Josh Gitty was

581
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: there for all the rough times. No champagne, no championship celebration,

582
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: gets traded to the freaking Bulls, who are a disaster

583
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: right now. Like I had to think about Josh Giddy

584
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: as OKAC was pulling out Game seven and then doing

585
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: the championship celebration celebration that is a cruel reality for

586
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: Giddy as well.

587
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 5: Yep, well, I think he's due for a big paycheck

588
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 5: in Chicago.

589
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: But I do agree with you.

590
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, from a personal standpoint, he'll he'll

591
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 5: earn his money in this league and and he'll he'll

592
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 5: accomplish a lot of the things in life. You know,

593
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 5: when when your parents, uh, when they when they look

594
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 5: at your future and they just have all these hopes

595
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 5: and dreams for you. If you think about, like even

596
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 5: imagining that your son could have a successful NBA career

597
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 5: that secures him and his family and his family's family

598
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 5: for life. Man, that's that's you're winning. Man, You are

599
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 5: winning the lottery of life. But when you start, when

600
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 5: you start down that path and you're an athlete, and

601
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 5: you start collecting some near misses where like, ah, we're

602
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 5: this close and we lost in the playoffs, you know

603
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 5: that Game seven or ah, you know I was on

604
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 5: the team that went to the finals.

605
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: I was.

606
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 5: I was on the team two years before they traded

607
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 5: me away.

608
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: Ah.

609
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 5: Like, when you start collecting those little could as should

610
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 5: have wood as, man, those sting when you retire, I

611
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 5: have to admit, because I look back on what by

612
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 5: all measures is a successful NFL playing career. You know,

613
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 5: I spent six years in the league. I got drafted

614
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 5: by the New England Patriots when the dynasty was going on.

615
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot to feel good about about

616
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 5: my playing history. But there are so many moments I

617
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 5: went to I played for two teams that went to

618
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 5: the postseason. I went to the postseason four times. I

619
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 5: don't have a Super Bowl ring. You know, there's there's

620
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 5: those moments, and there are moments in those games, and

621
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 5: some of those moments aren't even your fault.

622
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: Some of those moments throughout.

623
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 5: The season you have nothing to do with, but you

624
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 5: still look back and you just remember the sting. And

625
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 5: so unfortunately for Josh Giddy, this is just another one

626
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 5: of those moments.

627
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't feel as bad for Josh because it's

628
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 7: not like he is there all year and then you

629
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 7: know it happened late. So I don't feel as bad

630
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 7: for Josh because you're right, Rich nailed it, like he

631
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 7: had a really good.

632
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 6: Year with Chicago. Actually, yeah, that's some really fun moments.

633
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 7: He'll probably get a nice payday, but yeah, it's you

634
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 7: definitely think what if. I mean, we're all on this path,

635
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 7: like we all make these decisions that impact the next

636
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 7: thing and the next thing and the next thing, and

637
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 7: it's like every moment is like a million different alternate

638
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 7: realities with every passing second. Like when I said the

639
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 7: Age Brothers, you know, I'm sure there was someone listening

640
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 7: that was like, this guy's a freaking idiot. And maybe

641
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 7: if I would have said Danny Ainge and his son

642
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 7: Austin this, you know, I would.

643
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 6: Have had a fan for a lot.

644
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 7: You just never know, But it's just you just go

645
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 7: through this life and you just have to, you know,

646
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 7: catalog all of these things that happen, and you think

647
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 7: why why this?

648
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 6: Why?

649
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: Mean?

650
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 7: Like I'm sure and Tyrase and even Jason Tatum they

651
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 7: have a lot of time on their hands. Probably over

652
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 7: the next few weeks they're probably thinking why me, what's

653
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 7: the lesson here? And you just have to look inward

654
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 7: and find that strength to come back. And I honestly

655
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 7: think this silver lining in all of this is when

656
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 7: Tyrese Haliburton does come back, I think that will be

657
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 7: a galvanizing force for the Pacers. And I do think

658
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 7: Indiana is young enough at their core that they'll be back,

659
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 7: and they've got a really good coach who I think

660
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 7: that's the thing about the Pacers run that I didn't expect.

661
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 7: I know, Rick Carlisle is a good coach. I thought

662
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 7: he out coached that no for a good portion of

663
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 7: that series. I mean, that's not why they lost. So

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00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 7: I was very impressed with everything Indiana did during this run.

665
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 7: And I think Halliburton, we wish him the best, and

666
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 7: if and when he comes back, I do think Indiana

667
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 7: will have a chance to make another run.

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00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the crazy thing with tyrese Man, like after

669
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: the initial part of it wears off, where you know,

670
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 3: the ig post goes up and there's all these well

671
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 3: wishes that goes away in its months and months yep

672
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: and months seemingly endless of rehab to get back on

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00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: the court. That's brutal. And the thing for Josh Gitty,

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00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: I just I just picture someone coming up to Josh like, hey, okay,

675
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: see you want to ring right. No, I was traded

676
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 3: in the offseason before.

677
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: They won their first one.

678
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 3: Like even the intro, like they showed the the pregame intros,

679
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 3: they introduced all the players the last two games in

680
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: ok See, they showed that and I thought they left

681
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: Josh Giddy in the like the Jumbo Tron highlight reel.

682
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: Oh there's an undrafted rookie out of Utah, Brendan Carlson.

683
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 3: I went back and watched because I'm like, I swear

684
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: that's Skiddy, like similar flowing locks of hair. No, it's

685
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: a different guy, but it looks just like I thought

686
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: they left them in the thing.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, Wow, all right, we've.

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Speaker 3: Got rich oron Berger, Penn State, All American, Jared Smith FSR,

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Speaker 3: betting analyst. I'm Brian No. Be sure to check out

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Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole bunch of

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Speaker 3: video highlights from our shows. And be sure to subscribe

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Speaker 3: to you always have instant access to our Fox Sports

694
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Speaker 3: Radio videos on YouTube. Coming up next, the parlay platter.

695
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Speaker 3: We each have one selection. We pull it together for

696
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: a greater payout. We will put our brains together. Coming up,

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Speaker 3: it's Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by BETMGM. It is

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by Bett MGM. No time

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Speaker 3: to Wastelet's dive right into this.

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Speaker 1: Check this out parlay Flatterer.

701
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: Yes, it is the parlay platter, a cappella parlay platter

702
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: right there. For a second, we've got one selection for everybody.

703
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: We pull it together for a greater payout shared. We

704
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: start with you for the theme and the first selection here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll obviously switch gears. We go away from the

706
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 6: NBA and I.

707
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 7: Think for at least the next few weeks dog days

708
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 7: of summer, we will go to the Baseball Vibe. So

709
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 7: each of us one pick from the diamond and hopefully

710
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 7: three winners. I'll start in Cincinnati, a place where we've

711
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 7: all been before, to this ballpark. We've done a show

712
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 7: from this ballpark before, the Great American Ballpark in Cincinnati.

713
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 7: Let's let's give you the nerfee in San Diego and

714
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 7: Cincinnati today.

715
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 6: I am not overly enthused with the weather report.

716
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 7: It looks like wind blowing out and a pretty hot

717
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 7: day in the Ohio region. However, the pitching matchup is

718
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 7: also very hot. Andrew Rabbit fifteen consecutive nurfees.

719
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: How about that?

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00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 7: He has had an unbelievable string of nerfees yea and

721
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 7: Randy Basquez on the other side for the Padres five

722
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 7: straight not bad thirty and eleven in his career, and

723
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 7: he's never faced Cincinnati before.

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00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 6: First look through a fresh lineup.

725
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 7: I always give the advantage to the pitcher, and overall

726
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 7: Cincinnati has been a nerfy team this year. The weather

727
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 7: is telling me runs today. The total is elevated, but

728
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 7: that's why we're getting a decent alright, So I'll go

729
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 7: nurfy San Diego and Cincy.

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00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: All right.

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00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 5: Shohei Otani has been on an absolute.

732
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: Streak right now.

733
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 5: The hits runs Ribby's stat line has been filled up

734
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 5: two point five is where the line's at. He's pitching

735
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 5: today against the Royals. First pitch is gonna be one

736
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 5: ten West Coast tign four to ten East Coast time.

737
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: Give me the over on the hits runs Ribby's because

738
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 5: he's tearing the cover off the baseball, and I think this,

739
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 5: being only his second start, isn't going to slow that down.

740
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 5: In fact, I think he shines when the pressure is

741
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 5: mounting the hottest. So over on the runs hits Ribbies

742
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 5: two and a half.

743
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: I like it, all right. I'll go simple here. The

744
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: Brewers have been playing really good baseball for the last

745
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: month plus. They're twenty one and eight since May twenty fifth.

746
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: It's pretty good twenty one and eight, and the Rockies

747
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 3: not as good, not as good. So Brewers hosting the

748
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: Rockies today. I'm taking Milwaukee on the run line. So

749
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: it's minus a dollar fifteen, close to even money, and

750
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: the Brewers are facing Senzatela, who, if you're not familiar,

751
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: is stinking it up royally this year.

752
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 4: He's three and ten as era.

753
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 3: Is six forty eight, and he does have one start

754
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: against Milwaukee earlier this year. And now that start he

755
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: gave up eight hits and eight earned runs in four

756
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: and a third. So let's go Brewers run line today.

757
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 3: Gotta win by at least two. I'll back to Milwaukee.

758
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 6: I like this a lot, guys.

759
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 7: I was thinking about an Otani home run prop so

760
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 7: and so Rich kind of piggybacked off of that, and

761
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 7: you're right baiting the Rockies.

762
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 6: A great idea.

763
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 7: Plus five ninety six for this. I think this thing's cashing, guys.

764
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 7: I think we're cashing. Go bet this at bet MGM.

765
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 6: Right now.

766
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: We're hot.

767
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 6: Yeah last week, Yeah, we've.

768
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: Hit some planters here, so let's keep it going, all right?

769
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 3: Coming up next, is this how you would behave if

770
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 3: you really were telling the truth. The whole time we

771
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: dive in.

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00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: Next.

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00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: Oh, good morning, Happy Saturday to you. The actions do

774
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 3: not support the words. We'll get to that in just

775
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: a few seconds. Want to remind you be sure to

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00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search

777
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole

778
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be sure to

779
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: subscribe to you always have instant access to our Fox

780
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 3: Sports Radio videos on YouTube. All right, So, kicker, Justin Tucker,

781
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: he has been suspended for the first ten weeks of

782
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five regular season. And we get to

783
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 3: the nuts and bolts of this whole story here, right,

784
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: And Tucker was accused of inappropriate sexual behavior by sixteen

785
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: Baltimore area massage therapists. That's from eight different spas. The

786
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: alleged incidents dated back to twenty twelve. Now, Justin Tucker

787
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing. He's called the allegations unequivocally false.

788
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: He has said that throughout. And then we get to

789
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 3: this ruling by the NFL. You're suspended for ten games.

790
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: Tucker's agent said that he advised Tucker to accept the

791
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 3: suspension quote in order to put this difficult episode behind

792
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: him and get back on the field as soon as possible.

793
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: End quote. Now here's my question. If Justin Tucker's telling

794
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 3: the truth, these sixteen women from these eight different spots,

795
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: they're making all of it up, unequivocally false, never did

796
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: anything that they've alleged I've done. Are you then just

797
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: saying after all of the unequivocally false, all these words

798
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: the actions are yeah, I'll just take the ten game suspension.

799
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 4: Let's just put this behind us.

800
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: Dude, if you're completely innocent, there is no way you

801
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: would accept this, no chance you would. So the actions

802
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: show what's really going on here. There's no way that

803
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: you wouldn't fight this if you were truly innocent.

804
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 5: I have no idea what I would do if I

805
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 5: was completely one hundred percent innocent and I was being

806
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 5: blamed of the sort of things that.

807
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: He's being blamed of.

808
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 5: Like, I mean, just like, try to imagine that scenario,

809
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 5: Like there is a conspiracy against you, right, Like you're

810
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 5: a good person, You're going through your life and you're

811
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 5: a professional athlete, and all of a sudden, allegations start

812
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 5: getting lobbed against you, you know, at first privately, but

813
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 5: then it goes public and you're caught up in this

814
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 5: swirl of controversy and you're like, I can't believe what's

815
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 5: being reported, none of this is true. Like, actually, I

816
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 5: will say this though, if I were innocent, I know

817
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be doing this the way he's going about it.

818
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 5: I promise you it would look different. So I hate

819
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 5: to say it because, look, I do believe in due process.

820
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 5: I do think that as a society we are a

821
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 5: jump to conclusion society. But a lot of times where

822
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 5: there's smoke, there's fire, And when there's a lot of smoke,

823
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 5: like sixteen allegation smoke, like when there's a lot of smoke,

824
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 5: like in the case of Deshaun Watson, when there's like

825
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 5: over sixty women who have come out, whether it be

826
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 5: through the courts or just made their story publicly known

827
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 5: because they wanted their voices heard too.

828
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: When there's a lot of smoke, it's.

829
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 5: Really hard to believe that there's complete innocence.

830
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: Now, again, I believe in due process.

831
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 5: I believe everybody's I should be concerned innocent until proven guilty,

832
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 5: But this one stinks, and I'm I'm pretty sure if

833
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 5: I was completely innocent, I wouldn't have accepted the terms

834
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 5: that have been laid before me.

835
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: If I'm Justin Tucker.

836
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, there are no winners here.

837
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 7: I know we usually do winners losers, you know, of

838
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 7: the segment, there's just losers. I guess they're the only

839
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 7: winner is Whoever's gonna take Justin Tucker's job in Baltimore.

840
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 7: That's really the only winner in this situation. But even

841
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 7: that is you know, it's like winning a bet when

842
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 7: the guy gets hurt. It's just like you just kind

843
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 7: of backed into it. We were already seeing the physical

844
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 7: decline on the field last year. And I'm not a psychiatrist,

845
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 7: but I think it's pretty obvious.

846
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 6: We all are human beings.

847
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 7: Things that happen in your personal life when you have

848
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 7: a high profile job where you're under pressure a lot,

849
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 7: and then you have something happening behind the scenes in

850
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 7: your person life. We were not privy to this, not

851
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 7: all of the details last year during the season, But

852
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 7: when you look back at his season, which the greatest

853
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 7: most accurate kicker of all time, maybe outside of anavan

854
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 7: TERI just all of a sudden falls off the map,

855
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 7: can't make a kick. You're like, is it the yips? Like,

856
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 7: what's going on here? And then we get the details

857
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 7: of all of this mess that is starting to build

858
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 7: up behind the scenes, and you're like, okay, that makes sense.

859
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 7: Why all of a sudden he just couldn't make a kick?

860
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 7: You know, And kicking is such a mental game. It's

861
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 7: it's kind of like golf, like there's no one out

862
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 7: there but you. The ball gets down and you got

863
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 7: to make the kick, like that's it. And I don't

864
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 7: know what the end result here is. My guess is

865
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Speaker 7: Justin Tucker. And actually I feel pretty comfortable saying this.

866
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 7: I don't think Justin Tucker will ever kick again in

867
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Speaker 7: the NFL.

868
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 6: I just don't.

869
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 7: Think at this point because of the position that he

870
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 7: plays and his declining production. For a team to take

871
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 7: on this type of distraction for a kicker, I just

872
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 7: don't see it happening. So yeah, I mean, innocent until

873
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 7: proven guilty. We're not, you know, casting guilt on him.

874
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 7: But the pieces add up, like, you know, at all,

875
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 7: Like the case is pretty strong against him, and accepting

876
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 7: the suspension I think is kind of the cherry on top.

877
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 3: Well, he missed eight kicks last year alone.

878
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 6: That's a lot.

879
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 3: That's a career worst season, and we'll see going forward.

880
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 3: I would guess that a team would take a shot

881
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: on him and see if it does work out. And

882
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: if he's you know, now that all of this is

883
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 3: in the past, maybe you know, to your point, Jared,

884
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 3: maybe he's better a kicking going forward.

885
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 6: I don't know.

886
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: Maybe.

887
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: But the thing I think of is we do this

888
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: a lot, and I'm not saying we're doing the wrong thing,

889
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: but for a second, we always make it about the athlete. Right.

890
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: This is sports talk show, right, this isn't a life show.

891
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 3: It's a sports talk show. So we're going to lean

892
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 3: on the sports side of things more times than not.

893
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 3: But for a second, we got a pause and instead

894
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 3: of like, hey, Justin Tucker, does he keep back on

895
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: the field, does he not? Like what do you think

896
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: he's going to look like? It's imagine for the victims

897
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 3: for a second here, like some of these details and

898
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 3: some of the allegations are true, And imagine if you're

899
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 3: one of these massage therapists and you you went to

900
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: a lawyer, you told your story, and the next thing

901
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: you have to hear after going through this whatever, it was,

902
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: maybe some pretty shady stuff that you were not signing

903
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: up for went down, And the next thing you have

904
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: to hear is justin Tucker denying it unequivocally false, never happened,

905
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: like you had to live it once. And then hear

906
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 3: him say never happen before. And then we just go

907
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 3: on to hey, man, maybe it's at week twelve. Maybe

908
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: they need a kicker, you know, maybe their guy's stinks

909
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: and they need time.

910
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

911
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: Imagine if one of the victims just turns on sports

912
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 3: talk radio and it's hearing these things. It's layers, right

913
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: like we were. It's a weird comparison. We're talking about

914
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: the layers of Halliburton's injury. And it's not just losing

915
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: Game seven, and it's not just missing the next season.

916
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: It's the months and months of rehab and the mental hurdles.

917
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: It's a whole thing. You imagine this for the victims

918
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: and what they originally went through, and then all the

919
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: other things on top of it, where the guy that's

920
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: doing these things like that never happened, she's making it

921
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 3: up for this story and for any story to have

922
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: to go through that. Man, my heart goes out to

923
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 3: any of the victims they have to go through stuff

924
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 3: like that.

925
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 5: It's uh, it's a good comparison, even though it feels

926
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 5: like a loose thread you're pulling there, Brian, because.

927
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: You know you understand what I'm saying. I'm not saying

928
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: it's apples to apples. I'm just saying, no, you have

929
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 3: to think the whole thing, the whole ripple effect of this.

930
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 5: Look, I was talking to somebody last night who's grieving

931
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 5: a loss, and when you lose somebody close to you,

932
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 5: you're recovering from an injury. You don't look at it

933
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 5: that way because you didn't sprain an ankle, you didn't

934
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 5: twist up your knee. But a broken heart is an injury,

935
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And it's an emotional injury,

936
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 5: and it takes time to rehab from that injury. And

937
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 5: like a sprain ankle, you could take twenty steps down

938
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 5: the road and nineteen of them went great because you're

939
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 5: about three weeks out from the initial injury. But that

940
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 5: on that twentieth step, you didn't take it that step

941
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 5: any differently, but for whatever reason, you just felt it again,

942
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 5: like it just reaggravated.

943
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: That's how grief works, you know. Grief It comes in waves.

944
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 5: You know, it hits you at different points and you

945
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 5: don't see it coming, and it's an injury that you

946
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 5: have to recover from, you know, and you don't get

947
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 5: to just put in a box and set it on

948
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 5: a shelf and say like, all right now I've grieved

949
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 5: that loss and I'm moving on.

950
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to just live the rest of my life.

951
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 5: No, it's scars over and that skin's a little bit shinier,

952
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 5: a little bit you know, more sensitive or a little numb,

953
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 5: you know, compared to your other skin.

954
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: It feels different, but you carry that scar with you.

955
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 5: Well, look, I've also been close to a victim of

956
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 5: sexual assault in my life, and those people are grieving too.

957
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 5: Like the reality is it's a loss of innocence. It's

958
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 5: something's taken from you that you don't get back, and

959
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 5: it wasn't on your terms. And so you're one hundred

960
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 5: percent right like the Jared, what you said is Ryan, Brian,

961
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 5: what you said is right, Like, there.

962
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 2: Are only losers here.

963
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 5: This is such a crummy situation if allegations are true.

964
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 5: Because yeah, just like I was talking about grieving the

965
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 5: loss of a friend, grieving that loss of innocence is

966
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 5: something these people, if what is being alleged is true,

967
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 5: are going to carry with them for the rest of

968
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 5: their lives. And it will get easier over time because

969
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 5: you know, wounds heal, but they'll carry that scar with them,

970
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 5: and unfortunately, there are going to be plenty of reminders

971
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 5: along the way because of how public in nature this

972
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 5: person is of what happened. And so, yeah, if what's

973
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 5: been alleged is true, you know, the only thing anybody

974
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 5: should care about are the victims, and I sincerely hope

975
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 5: that whatever cosmic justice can be served will be done

976
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 5: and those whoever perpetrate things like this learn their lessons

977
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 5: because it's one of the worst things you can do.

978
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: It just is, it's one of the worst things you

979
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: could do.

980
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I applaud you, Brian for taking the time to,

981
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 7: you know, use that narratives as a talking point, because

982
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 7: you're right, like the victims and there's molt it's not

983
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 7: just one like, there's multiple and I'm sure there are.

984
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 7: If I was one of those victims, I would not

985
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 7: be able to listen to the you know, the sports

986
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 7: talk chatter about this because it would probably bring up

987
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 7: some pretty tough memories. But I'm sure it's hard to

988
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 7: completely disengage from it because it's everywhere, like every every

989
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 7: grocery store, every you know, bar you walk into, there's

990
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 7: a ESPN, there's all these networks on they're all talking

991
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 7: about stuff. So it's it's probably hard to just completely

992
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 7: detach from it, and you know, unless you just lock

993
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 7: yourself in your room and just never go anywhere, and

994
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 7: then there's other issues that you have. But there's definitely

995
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 7: a element to this where you your heart goes out

996
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 7: to those victims.

997
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 6: I just hope.

998
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 7: Everyone learns from this and we don't have I mean,

999
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 7: I know we're gonna have situations like this in the future.

1000
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 7: I'm sure there always is in the NFL and then

1001
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 7: the NBA. I mean, there's always bad actors everywhere going on,

1002
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 7: and you just hope that, you know, each situation provides

1003
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 7: a learning point where you can move forward from it,

1004
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 7: and you know, hopefully we don't have situations like this

1005
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 7: happen again. It's just so weird because it's a kicker,

1006
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 7: and I think that's that to me, That is why

1007
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 7: I don't think Justin's going to play in the NFL again.

1008
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 7: It's not because he's not talented enough, and there isn't

1009
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 7: a need for it, but you have to look at

1010
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 7: it from the perspective of a general manager like Ray

1011
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 7: Rice never got another chance, and he plays running back

1012
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 7: like I just don't understand why, of all the kickers

1013
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 7: that you could possibly choose from to bring in to

1014
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 7: help your team, is justin at this stage of his

1015
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 7: career that much better than everyone else to where you're

1016
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 7: willing to take on that distraction. And I think the

1017
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 7: answer is no. I'm wrong a lot, but I think

1018
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 7: the answer to that question is n.

1019
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he certainly wasn't better last season, There's no

1020
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: doubt about that. So we'll see going forward. But in

1021
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: any event, you guys said, hopefully everybody learns from this,

1022
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: and you know you don't want to see any of

1023
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 3: this happen in anywhere in any aspect of sports or beyond,

1024
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: but man, some crazy stuff goes on from time to time.

1025
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Speaker 4: Good morning, Seamus, Hope all is well with you.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious, now that the NBA NHL Finals, the

1053
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 3: playoffs are behind us, what's drawing the most betting interest?

1054
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 3: And you could be you can take that in general

1055
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 3: and you could be more specific, like if you say, hey,

1056
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 3: baseball is driving it specifically the Dodgers or whatever it

1057
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: happened happens to be. What are we looking at now?

1058
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: Is this baseball? Is it WNBA? What's driving a lot

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1060
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's great to be back. Yeah, it's it really

1061
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 9: is baseball season now, getting close to the All Star breaks,

1062
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 9: so hopefully we'll see some action on stuff like the

1063
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 9: home run Derby, which is usually you know, that's a

1064
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 9: pretty cool thing for people to beut on. But the

1065
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 9: WNBA is definitely, you know, noticeable, It's definitely a sport

1066
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 9: that more people are taking an interest to now a

1067
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 9: because you have the story lines going on with some

1068
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 9: of the players on WNBA and it is adding just

1069
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 9: you know, a different sport other than baseball just doesn't

1070
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 9: have to be the MLB for a lot of people.

1071
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 9: So WNBA definitely drawing some attention as well.

1072
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 7: You read my mind, Shamus, because I'll be honest, as

1073
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 7: much as I love betting baseball, the nurpees and all

1074
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 7: that fun stuff, I have taken an increased interest in

1075
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 7: the w because not only, as you mentioned, the calendar

1076
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 7: kind of gives me the time, but also it's becoming

1077
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 7: an interesting product. And I think the MVP it is

1078
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 7: really interesting because when you look at the odds right

1079
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 7: now and the Fisa Collier of the Minnesota Lank she's

1080
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Speaker 7: a fantastic player. She's the favorite right now. Caitlyn Clark

1081
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 7: is the second favorite, which is kind of befuddling because

1082
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 7: she's missed a ton of games. She's not having a

1083
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 7: great season statistically. My guess is the exposure to her

1084
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 7: is just so crazy that you've got to shorten her

1085
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 7: number considerably.

1086
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 6: Is that true?

1087
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 7: And if so, how much exposure are you really seeing

1088
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 7: on Caitlyn Clark in the w NBA MVP market.

1089
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 9: Yep, he hit the nail on the head. It's really

1090
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 9: a lot of one way traffic on Kaitlyn Clark and

1091
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 9: you know, Collier definitely is, you know, the best player

1092
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 9: in the league. But there was an injury scare for

1093
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 9: her recently too, which saw that clark numbers shorten up

1094
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 9: a little too. But again, Clark is in struggling a

1095
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 9: little bit with some injuries, and then you have a

1096
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 9: few players on a liberty getting up there. But yeah,

1097
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 9: it's it's just the Kaitlyn Clark show as far as

1098
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 9: the MVP voting, their betting is going. So you'll see

1099
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 9: us in some other books just shortened up just because

1100
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 9: the exposure to to get so wild. And she does

1101
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 9: have the ability to probably get there. I mean she

1102
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 9: can come back and stay healthy and like lead this

1103
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 9: team to the playoffs. She'll have an argument.

1104
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, stars drive ratings. Obviously, they drive

1105
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 5: revenue to sports leagues. There's no questioning Titlin Clark's presence

1106
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 5: on the sports books when it comes to the w NBA.

1107
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 5: How about sho he Otani, Like, since he's really splashed

1108
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 5: on the scene in Major League Baseball, have you guys

1109
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 5: seen a surge in the prop betting market. I know

1110
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 5: that for our parlay platter, I took the over on

1111
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 5: the hits runs RBIs today. We actually got a pretty

1112
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 5: good little platter going here, Seamus wim.

1113
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: I fill you in on that a little bit later.

1114
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: Run but.

1115
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 5: Has show a has he moved the needle from Major

1116
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 5: League Baseball and their betting?

1117
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 9: How could he not? You have got like me who

1118
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 9: bet anything and everything under the sun. And I come

1119
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 9: on the radio last week in my bet is that

1120
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 9: he's going to hit a home run. I forgot about it,

1121
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 9: which he did not, which we won't talk about.

1122
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 6: He's gonna hit one, Yeah, gonna kick uh.

1123
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I definitely. I mean, you see the memes people

1124
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 9: have online where it's like a big news event and

1125
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 9: it's like, oh my god, they're still doing it. It's

1126
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 9: shoe Otani is up in three at bats. I mean people,

1127
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 9: I mean he is. He is an anomaly. And it

1128
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 9: also I give Aaron Judge right now, who's doing great things.

1129
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 9: Kyle Rally is like an awesome story this year. So,

1130
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 9: I mean the MLB, it's definitely getting more interested, like

1131
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 9: some of these cooler players getting up there now.

1132
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 3: Seam as if you were granted two wishes. Okay, fur

1133
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 3: bet MGM. One of what's going to happen in the MLB. Season.

1134
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: The other what's going to happen in the w NBA

1135
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: season that would specifically benefit you guys within reason? Right Like,

1136
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 3: what would you choose for each sport?

1137
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 9: The w n B A would comfortably be the Visa

1138
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 9: Collie Airwin's MVP for the regular season, and for the MLB,

1139
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 9: it's it's still really early anyone, but the Detroit Tigers

1140
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 9: win the World Series right now, We'll go with that

1141
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 9: one right now. The Cal Raleigh liability is starting to

1142
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 9: creep up there for the AL MVP, just because Judge

1143
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 9: got so short, which gave Raleigh like a really decent number.

1144
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 9: But I mean the Tigers number is not great. The

1145
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 9: Mets I surprised. You think it'd be worse with all

1146
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 9: the hype they got this season, but there's still not

1147
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 9: a bad number right now. I think a Subway series

1148
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 9: would be you know, long term, it'd probably be bad

1149
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 9: for our AL and NL markets, but a Subway series

1150
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 9: would be a handle dream. I think it would get

1151
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 9: a ton of action, So that would be pretty cool

1152
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 9: to say.

1153
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I live through one of those, Seamus. I would

1154
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 7: love to see another one. I just don't know if

1155
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 7: we're going to I just there's something about this Mets

1156
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 7: team that just rubs me the wrong way.

1157
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 6: Especially Yeah, we had another picture go down.

1158
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 9: As a Yankee fan. I preferred it when I was

1159
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 9: five years old and it was the first time I

1160
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 9: was really watching baseball and I didn't know any Mets fans.

1161
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 9: It was great. But now I don't know if I

1162
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 9: could even go out to watch the games with any

1163
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 9: people if it happened.

1164
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a different climate today. People don't remember, you know,

1165
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 7: in two thousands happened. There's no social media, like it

1166
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 7: was just like such a weird time, you know, it

1167
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 7: just you don't realize twenty five years for us, like

1168
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 7: we live through it. But the climate, the culture of

1169
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 7: America is just so different now. We are not even

1170
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 7: to the All Star break yet. I know we're about

1171
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 7: halfway through the All Star breaks later in the baseball calendar,

1172
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 7: it's not halfway, so we're more than halfway through the

1173
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 7: season for all these teams. However, when you look at

1174
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 7: the awards markets, it feels like almost every market's kind

1175
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 7: of an open and shut case. I mean, I guess

1176
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 7: you could make the case that the al Cy Young

1177
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 7: with schoogle is starting to kind of creak open Hunter

1178
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 7: Brown's been great. You know, Crochet's had his moments, and

1179
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 7: School's kind of come back down on Earth a couple

1180
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 7: of starts, But I still think he's the guy skiings

1181
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 7: in the NL, like, you know, someone has to reach up.

1182
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 6: And grab it from him.

1183
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 7: The MVP markets, I mean, goodness gracious, like I've tried

1184
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 7: in the in the NL, Shamus, I tried with Soto,

1185
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 7: I tried with Akunya. I think both of those guys

1186
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 7: are gonna be, you know, the bride'smaids here and not

1187
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 7: the bride. Is there a non like if you had

1188
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 7: to pick up the four markets, a l N L

1189
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 7: m VP A l NL cy Young, is there a

1190
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 7: non favorite that is going to win one of those

1191
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 7: awards right now?

1192
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 9: I under voter fatigue for both MVP markets is having

1193
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 9: an incredible year. I think cal Rawley probably has the

1194
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 9: best chance. I mean, other wise it is the case

1195
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 9: at plus three seventy five, I mean Croche plus three fifty,

1196
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 9: but I really do see sull All running away with that.

1197
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 9: I feel like this year they'll definitely give the nlcim schemes,

1198
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 9: even though I feel like you should have won a

1199
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 9: last year, but this year, I mean cal Rally is

1200
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 9: such a fun story. I feel like you are going

1201
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 9: to see people in the media really really try to

1202
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 9: make this a really close race. So I would say

1203
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 9: the al MVP with cal Raley, I think you're gonna

1204
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 9: need to see Judge his average dip below three point thirty.

1205
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 9: I don't know if that's gonna happen. He's not gonna

1206
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 9: hit four hundred this year.

1207
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 6: It's still a year for Judge, though.

1208
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 9: It would be insanity if Judge hits north of three

1209
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 9: fifty and has fifty home runs and doesn't win MVP,

1210
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 9: it would be insane. But you know, cal Rally there

1211
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 9: with this Stety is the most home runs by a

1212
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 9: catcher before the All Star Break. I think, yeah, that's

1213
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 9: apparently only Griffy's.

1214
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 3: All right, Seamus, it's that time the Shamus Special. No

1215
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 3: no pressure, but we've got a nice little parlay cooking up,

1216
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 3: and if you provide a winning leg, you're probably gonna

1217
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 3: get us in the ten to one range, you know,

1218
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 3: So no pressure.

1219
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 6: What do you have a mega platter?

1220
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, try this on for size, guys. I really like

1221
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 9: this one. I am a little biased here, but this

1222
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 9: guy's red hot right now. I like jazz chisholm over

1223
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 9: one and a half hits runs RBIs okay got the

1224
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 9: athletics at home. I think he can get two hits

1225
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 9: or you know over what behalf of that? I think

1226
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 9: I think it's a good bet.

1227
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 3: All right, well, we appreciate that. Thank you for the

1228
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 3: two cents there, Seamus, and we always love talking to you.

1229
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: Thanks for making some time today, and we'll catch up

1230
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 3: with you soon. Man, have a good day.

1231
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 9: Always a pleasure to have a good weekend.

1232
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 6: Guys.

1233
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: All right, you too.

1234
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 7: There.

1235
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 3: He is Seamus McGhee, team lead of sports trading at

1236
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 3: bet MGM. Okay, guys, now, I would to a pretty

1237
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 3: a game, right like we played games every now and then.

1238
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: So Oklahoma City they just want a championship. And it

1239
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 3: was a mega quick turnaround, Jared, you like to do

1240
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 3: the mega parlays every now and then. It was a

1241
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 3: mega quick turnaround for ok See. Do you realize two

1242
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 3: years ago their record was forty and forty two. They

1243
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 3: were sub five hundred two seasons ago. Now they're NBA champions.

1244
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 3: So they took the speed pass. You ever go to

1245
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,959
Speaker 3: the amusement park and you can get the speed pass

1246
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: right to the roller Yeah, that's what they just did.

1247
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 4: So the pop quiz is without cheating.

1248
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 3: Who are the two NBA teams that went forty and

1249
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 3: forty two this past season?

1250
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: Forty and forty two?

1251
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,919
Speaker 3: Yeah? Can you come up with it off the top

1252
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 3: of your head?

1253
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 5: Oh man, I'm trying to think of teams that have

1254
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 5: like a hot start and then really tailed off.

1255
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm Jared, you got anything.

1256
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 5: Specifically that record to teeth landed on that exact record right.

1257
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 7: On the Both of the teams were likely in the

1258
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 7: play in based off of their record, right and ye

1259
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 7: where I remember the standings to be?

1260
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Chicago, Atlanta?

1261
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 7: Chicago sounds right, Miami, m I'll say Atlanta since.

1262
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I'll say he's right about Miami. I

1263
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 5: would say Chicago and Miami.

1264
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 6: I'll say Atlanta, You're.

1265
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 3: Right about Atlanta.

1266
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 7: Jared, Woo, give me a buzzer, give me the ding, Chris, Yeah,

1267
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 7: you need like you need more than the ding.

1268
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 6: You know you need?

1269
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 3: There you go, there you.

1270
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 2: Go, you know you another one.

1271
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 5: Hang on Memphis, Memphis, because that's a team that had

1272
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 5: a hot start and then they, I mean they fired

1273
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 5: their coach.

1274
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: Were they playing team though?

1275
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 3: I forget they in the neighborhood. You know, cheat, since

1276
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 3: I can cheat, I'll look at this.

1277
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 7: It wasn't the Lakers weren't in the plane. No, they

1278
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:16,839
Speaker 7: weren't in the plane.

1279
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Memphis was. They were a lot better though. Memphis

1280
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 3: was forty eight and thirty four. They were eight.

1281
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: Got it over there, Okay, okay.

1282
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, how about this, Brian, give me the four teams

1283
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 7: that were in the plane in the West.

1284
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 6: Okay, give us a multiple choice.

1285
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 3: So there's Warriors, Grizzlies, Kings, Mavericks.

1286
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 6: Well you already said it wasn't the Grizzlies, so that

1287
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 6: was easy. So we have a three chance Mavericks, Warriors

1288
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 6: or Kings.

1289
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1290
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 6: Boy, I'll guess Sacramento.

1291
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 4: You guys think this seriously.

1292
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 6: I like it.

1293
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 7: You know, we're not going to these games. I'm a

1294
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 7: creature of a pavement.

1295
01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 4: I love the competitiveness.

1296
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 3: I'm this way.

1297
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 4: Yes, you're right. Is the Sacramento key?

1298
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 3: That's right?

1299
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Speaker 4: DJ Airhorn that.

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01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 6: Of getting it right?

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01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's nice to go, Chris, but but pretty good.

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01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 3: The whole point of this is do you see the

1303
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 3: Atlanta Hawks winning a title two years from now? Can

1304
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 3: you see the Sacramento Kings turning it around and winning

1305
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 3: it all to Atlanta. Yes, I mean I traded for Skorzingis.

1306
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 3: You know, maybe we'll get to New Orleans.

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01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I'm gonna Say're gonna have it. They

1308
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 6: might have the number one pick in the draft next year.

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01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 3: New Orleans traded an unprotected pick.

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01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 4: We'll crush them next out.

1311
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 7: Oh my god, that's the craziest thing that happened on

1312
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 7: Draft night the Atlanta And I'll say it right now,

1313
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 7: on June twenty eight, the Atlanta Hawks might have the

1314
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 7: number one pick in the draft next.

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01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 6: Year, regardless of what the record is.

1316
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 3: That's insane, absolutely insane, it really is. But it really

1317
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 3: is to show how quick of a turnaround this was

1318
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 3: for Oka. See, because I would bet heavily on the

1319
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 3: Hawks and the King to not sniff an NBA championship

1320
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 3: two years from now.

1321
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 4: And okay, see just did it.

1322
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 3: They just pulled off that two year turnaround from a

1323
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 3: sub five hundred team to NBA champs. That's insanity. Are

1324
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 3: you ready for a no rant? Would you like a

1325
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 3: little no rant here? I think you'll probably be on

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01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 3: board this one.

1327
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, you and I we we find each other.

1328
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 6: Just yeah, I don't think Richard, Yeah.

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01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: Rich chops.

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01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 3: By the way, side, note, I am doing crack research

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01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 3: on the NFL seating. You know, Jared is thrown it out.

1332
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 4: They're like, I hate and just just a quick day.

1333
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 3: I hate that a wild card team with like a

1334
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 3: better record by like four wins is on the road

1335
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 3: to a division winner that's like five hundred or barely above.

1336
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: I've been going year by year crack freaking research how

1337
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 3: many times this has happened in NFL playoff history. So

1338
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 3: give me a little bit of time and I'll bear

1339
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 3: out your findings. Okay, So here's the no rant. I'm

1340
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 3: curious if you guys are on board or not. So

1341
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,480
Speaker 3: while we're speaking of Okac, something has to stop immediately.

1342
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 3: I've read it time and time again. I've heard it

1343
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 3: time and time again. This hesitancy to say man, okay,

1344
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 3: see is gonna be a problem for years and years.

1345
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 3: They're young, they're really good, Their core guys aren't going anywhere.

1346
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 3: They have this treasure chest of draft picks that who

1347
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 3: knows what they're gonna do with those. Okay, so he's

1348
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 3: gonna be a real problem for a long time. It's

1349
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: like all this hedging happens where it's like, well, I mean,

1350
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 3: nothing's for sure. And remember what happened with the Kevin

1351
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 3: Durant and Russell Westbrook era. And we thought they were

1352
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 3: gonna be unbelievable and they weren't. YadA YadA, Like we

1353
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 3: don't do that with any other team. I mean, just

1354
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 3: think about this. Go to the NFL. Does anybody hedge

1355
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 3: with the Eagles? Hey, the Eagles gonna repeat as champions?

1356
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 2: Ah?

1357
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 3: Well, remember the Donovan McNabb and Andy Reid era. You know,

1358
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,799
Speaker 3: like nothing is promised, nothing is for No one thinks

1359
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 3: like that. Why is it just with OKC. I want

1360
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:21,879
Speaker 3: to screen from the mountaintops. Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant

1361
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 3: have nothing, absolutely nothing to do with OKAC. Now, stop

1362
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 3: dragging them in as if they do. They don't apply anymore.

1363
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 5: So I'll tell you the reason why. It's it's a

1364
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 5: biased based response. It's because nobody really cares about OKAC.

1365
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 5: So nobody really knows about OKAC. It's a small market team.

1366
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 5: What does that mean? There's only limited regional interests. There

1367
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 5: isn't national interest in the thunder And when that happens,

1368
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 5: like I'll give you a comparison, like if a lone

1369
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 5: number of television sets tuned in for just Los Angeles,

1370
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 5: if say the Lakers made the finals. Is if just

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 5: ten percent of the televisions in Los Angeles tuned in

1372
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 5: to watch the Lakers in the finals, it would have

1373
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 5: trumped If a third of the TVs in each of

1374
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 5: the markets in Okasee and Indie turned on their televisions

1375
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 5: combined to watch the finals. That's how many more people

1376
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 5: there are in Los Angeles than the combined markets in

1377
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 5: Indianapolis and Oklahoma City.

1378
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: It's just a small market team.

1379
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:36,879
Speaker 5: So nobody knows about OKAC, So nobody cares about OKAC.

1380
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 2: So nobody is you know, all.

1381
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 5: That enthralled or enraptured with the idea that Okayse's gonna

1382
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 5: be good for a long while. That's that's the quickest

1383
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 5: response I can give you. That's the reason.

1384
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: Brian M.

1385
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, Rich's point makes sense.

1386
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 7: I think human psychology also factors in, right, it's the

1387
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 7: gamblers fallacy. Oh my god, the roulette wheel has spun

1388
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 7: black eight consecutive spins. No way it's gonna go black

1389
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 7: for the next spin. Well, actually, the odds of it,

1390
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 7: you know, either being black or red are fifty to fifty.

1391
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 7: I guess I know there's the zero and the triple zero,

1392
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 7: but you get the point, right, Like coin Flip's the

1393
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 7: better analogy, right, coin Flip's gone heads five, six, seven

1394
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 7: straight times.

1395
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 6: It has to go tails on the next flip, right, No,

1396
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 6: it's fifty to fifty.

1397
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,879
Speaker 7: OKC is the favorite to win next year, significant favorite,

1398
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 7: Like it's not even close. Their odds of winning next

1399
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 7: year are not impacted at all by what happened last year,

1400
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 7: that is the gamblers fallacy. This year, their odds will

1401
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 7: be impacted by injuries, luck, you know, the normal things

1402
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 7: that take place during a season. But if you played

1403
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 7: out the season based on what the odds are telling

1404
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 7: us a gajillion times, Oklahoma City would win more than

1405
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 7: any other team.

1406
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1407
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 4: I just think the previous KD.

1408
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 3: Westbrook era, there were such high hopes the Beard, right,

1409
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 3: James Harden was there. There were such high hopes that

1410
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 3: they were gonna win titles, and they didn't. So I

1411
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 3: get it, like there's this it's in the front of

1412
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: your forehead and you can't get away from it, and

1413
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 3: you think it applies to the hero and now, but

1414
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 3: it really doesn't.

1415
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 4: It doesn't apply to the hero.

1416
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: And now, if you go through NBA history, think how

1417
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 3: ridiculous it would sound looking back when the Bulls finally

1418
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 3: want a championship in ninety one, if anyone was like,

1419
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: whoa who, let's settle down, let's pump the brakes on

1420
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 3: this being a dynasty. Remember the Bob Love era in

1421
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 3: the seventies. So let's calm it down a little bit.

1422
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 3: And they rattle off, you know, six of eight championships.

1423
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, Okac is young, really good. Their

1424
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 3: core isn't going anywhere. We got all these draft picks,

1425
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 3: They're just gonna add to it. They are a major, major,

1426
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 3: major problem going forward. It would not shock me at

1427
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 3: all if they turn out to be a dynasty. But

1428
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 3: what I do know is that Kevin Durant and Russell

1429
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 3: Westbrook and that era has nothing to do with the

1430
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 3: here and now, Absolutely nothing when you stop and think

1431
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 3: about it. But I hear it and read it time

1432
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 3: and time again as if it does apply, and it

1433
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 3: just flat out doesn't. All Right, We've got rich Oronberger,

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Speaker 3: prop it up. That's right, the prop betting market. Man,

1444
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 3: I might just keep picking on one particular guy here.

1445
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,680
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Speaker 3: of the day. Puh one.

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Speaker 2: That's I'll ball out to deep ride field. Does it

1451
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 2: have en up on it? It does?

1452
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,440
Speaker 5: Into the seats, a two run homer for Gunner Henderson,

1453
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 5: his ninth of the season.

1454
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 2: Hey, the Orioles now.

1455
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 5: Have a ten spot over the Rays eighteen to eight.

1456
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 3: That's a courtesy of WBAL Oreos Radio Network. How about

1457
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 3: that Orioles were trailing the Rays six nothing. They won

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01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 3: the game twenty two to eight. Think about if you're

1459
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 3: betting on that and you're down six nothing, You're like,

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Speaker 3: I'm an idiot, Why would I back the He won

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Speaker 1: Prop it up player plays.

1468
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 3: Alright the prop betting market. Jared, we hand the baton

1469
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 3: to you first. What do you have for us today?

1470
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 6: Let's go to the w We have one game on

1471
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 6: the card tonight.

1472
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 7: It's an intriguing game. Mystics and Wings game will be

1473
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 7: later tonight. I'm gonna go Page Beckers over seventeen and

1474
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 7: a half points.

1475
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 6: She has been an absolute rock star.

1476
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 7: She had twenty six last night against the Fever so

1477
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 7: second of a back to back, but the minutes have

1478
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 7: been there, averaging thirty six minutes per game, averaging over

1479
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 7: eighteen points per game, and she's facing a Mystics team

1480
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 7: that's allowing eighty per game.

1481
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 6: So I think the matchup makes a whole lot of sense.

1482
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 6: The usage makes sense.

1483
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 7: Dallas a high scoring team. I actually kind of like

1484
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 7: Washington in the game. They'll get to that later.

1485
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 6: But I'll balance my action a little bit.

1486
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 7: I'll give you Page Beckers over seventeen and a half

1487
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 7: points minus one fifteen your price at bet MGM.

1488
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 5: Okay, So the MLB I go, and it's the same player,

1489
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 5: but it's a different position. Show Heyotani again, but this

1490
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 5: time from the mound. In its first start, he didn't

1491
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 5: have any strikeouts. He threw the ball twenty two times,

1492
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 5: obviously on a pitch count. His second start, he threw

1493
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 5: I believe he was sixteen pitches struck out too.

1494
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: Show Heyotani is going to be eased into his pitching routine.

1495
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 5: He is not even close to a finished product coming

1496
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 5: off injury, and Dave Roberts has not put a pitch

1497
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 5: count limit on him, but he said if he gets

1498
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 5: to the second eating, we're gonna consider that a bonus.

1499
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna consider it done.

1500
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 5: One and a half strikeouts from the mound, take over

1501
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 5: I believe in show. Heyotani, he's a star, he's a stud.

1502
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 5: I think he's finding his rhythm, he's finding his stuff.

1503
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: So give me the over one and a.

1504
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 3: Half pitcher strikeouts for show, Hao tan, I all right,

1505
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 3: you have good reason to believe in Otani.

1506
01:19:56,120 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 4: I have good reason to not believe in Antonio.

1507
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 3: Sends it to he is a rocky starting pitcher, and

1508
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 3: it's been rough, nothing personal, but his record is three

1509
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 3: and ten as Thera is six forty eight, and the

1510
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 3: last time he faced the Brewers who he faces today

1511
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 3: on the road. The last time at home, Senzatela gave

1512
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 3: up eight hits and eight earned runs in four and

1513
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 3: a third, So not grace. I'm gonna go over two

1514
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 3: and a half earned runs given up by Sensatela against

1515
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 3: the Brewers team that's hot twenty one and eight since

1516
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 3: May twenty fifth. So I hate to be a broken record,

1517
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 3: but I see value here in fading Sensatella.

1518
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna keep going to the well.

1519
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,600
Speaker 3: Here and hope that the brew crew their offense is

1520
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 3: clicking today. And I think three earned runs is not

1521
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 3: asking for the sun to moon and the heavens over

1522
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 3: here against sensatella, So I'll roll with that, all right.

1523
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,480
Speaker 3: Coming up next to me, this is the most fascinating

1524
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 3: NFL team for the upcoming season. We'll share that with you.

1525
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 3: Coming up right around the corner. Oh, welcome in Happy

1526
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,560
Speaker 3: Saturday to you. We will get to the most fascinating

1527
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 3: NFL team this season just a couple of seconds. Hey,

1528
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 3: you can stream this show and all of our Fox

1529
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,960
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1530
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1531
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 3: in the app to stream us live. And one of

1532
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 3: the newest features in the app is that you can

1533
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 3: select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets, just

1534
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 3: like the presets on a radio dial. So be sure

1535
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 3: to preset Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. Then

1536
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 3: it'll always pop up at the top of your screen. Okay,

1537
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 3: the most fascinating team, at least to me is the

1538
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:40,839
Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings. Fellas, you can push back in standard Ornberger fashion.

1539
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 7: Have you.

1540
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 3: I put the Vikings at the top. Yeah, because listen,

1541
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 3: this team went fourteen and three last season, and there's

1542
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 3: season win total right now at BETMGM is eight and

1543
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 3: a half.

1544
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 4: Now, it's juice to the over it's minus a.

1545
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 3: Dollar forty five, So you would have to risk one

1546
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 3: hundred and forty five dollars to win one hundred dollars.

1547
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 3: You don't have to risk that. It's just that's the

1548
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 3: you know, that's the exchange rate, if you will, the

1549
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 3: under is plus one twenty. And if you look at

1550
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 3: the Vikings, another market here, all right, so their season

1551
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 3: win total is eight and a half. That's just five hundred, right,

1552
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 3: just over five hundred to get to nine to eight

1553
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 3: fourteen and three last season. So Vegas is like, eh,

1554
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 3: I don't know about this Vikings team with this new quarterback.

1555
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 3: The Vikings to make the playoffs, yes, is even money.

1556
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 3: It's plus one hundred, No is minus one twenty. So

1557
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,560
Speaker 3: I just think the cliffs Notes version with JJ McCarthy

1558
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: taking over as a first year starter, I cannot wait

1559
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 3: to see how it plays out, because to me, it's

1560
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 3: the gift and the curse. The supporting cast is a really,

1561
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 3: really good supporting cast that the Vikings have offensively around

1562
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 3: their quarterback, defensively, just the roster in general. Kevin O'Connell,

1563
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 3: you gotta support system in place. As the first year

1564
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 3: starter with JJ McCarthy, it is Chief's esque right when

1565
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 3: Mahomes took over a lot of firepower Andy Reid's bags.

1566
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 3: That's a great supporting cast. JJ McCarthy has a lot

1567
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 3: around him, so that's a good thing. That's the gift.

1568
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 3: The curse is you better hit the ground running. This

1569
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 3: is a fourteen win team from last season, high expectations,

1570
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 3: super Bowl aspirations. The Vikings have even come out and said, hey,

1571
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 3: the reason we didn't go with Rogers. We're on a

1572
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 3: three year super Bowl plan with JJ McCarthy. So the

1573
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 3: curse is the treadmill is on ten miles per hour,

1574
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 3: you know, and you're supposed to hop on that thing

1575
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 3: and start sprinting right away and producing immediately. Sam Darnold

1576
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 3: threw thirty five touchdown passes last season, So if the

1577
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 3: production takes a step back, if the wins take a

1578
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,799
Speaker 3: step back, that's a lot of heat on JJ McCarthy

1579
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 3: in his very first NFL start, So we'll see if

1580
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 3: he can live up to it or not.

1581
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: I love this. I love this.

1582
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 5: I completely agree that the Vikings are among the most

1583
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,440
Speaker 5: interesting teams in.

1584
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 2: All of sports right now.

1585
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 5: If you look at Kevin O'Connell, who I know, well,

1586
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 5: he was a teammate of mine in New England. He

1587
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 5: lived in San Diego and was an analyst on the

1588
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 5: same television station that I am, a current.

1589
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 2: Football analyst on NBC San Diego. Yeah.

1590
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 5: I mean, so there's been a lot of crossover and

1591
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 5: through lines throughout our career, and every once in a

1592
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 5: while still keep in touch and drop him a note.

1593
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 5: He is a tremendous person before he is a tremendous coach,

1594
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 5: and he is both. He's a good leader, he's a

1595
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 5: good communicator. He's uh, he's gonna get the very best

1596
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 5: out of JJ McCarthy. There's no doubt in my mind

1597
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 5: every quarterback he's worked with, he's gotten the very best

1598
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 5: out of. There's no doubt in my mind that the

1599
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,959
Speaker 5: Vikings are going to be a contender in that division

1600
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 5: or a very least make noise in the Wildcard. But

1601
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 5: the team I'm going to point this conversation toward is

1602
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 5: actually the team where myself and Kevin O'Connell first met,

1603
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 5: the New England Patriots. I mean, how could you not

1604
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 5: you have Mike vrabel brand new coaching staff when I

1605
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 5: was drafted by the Patriots.

1606
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,879
Speaker 2: The legacy was already set. The culture was in place.

1607
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 5: It was the Patriot way, was Belichick's way, and they

1608
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 5: went on to have a tremendous amount of success after

1609
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 5: I left New England. I mean, it was twenty years

1610
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:43,640
Speaker 5: of dominance and then all of a sudden.

1611
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: Brady leaves.

1612
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:48,759
Speaker 5: It all fall falls apart and they hire Girod. Mayo

1613
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 5: as the heir apparent to Bill Belichick. That was a

1614
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 5: one year unfortunate disaster. Because I played with Draft as well.

1615
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 5: I really respect him I think he's a tremendous person too.

1616
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 5: It just didn't work out as a head coach. And

1617
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 5: now you look at Rabel, who's a tremendous coach with

1618
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 5: an improving roster with a real quarterback. I think Drake

1619
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 5: may is a real quarterback. And this is for the

1620
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 5: first time in his head coaching career that.

1621
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 2: He's paired with a real quarterback. Think about it.

1622
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 5: The best quarterback Mike Rabel has ever coached.

1623
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 2: With is is Tannehill. I mean like and he's done

1624
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 2: so much.

1625
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 5: So I look at the mixture of Drake may The

1626
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 5: improvements on the offensive line is Stefan Diggs can get

1627
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 5: his head straight and his acl right. Improvements elsewhere on

1628
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 5: this roster and a similar win total in Vegas for

1629
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 5: the Patriots as being the most interesting team heading into

1630
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty five season.

1631
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 7: So I don't think I can pick a most interesting team.

1632
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 7: I think all the NFL teams are like Las Potato chips.

1633
01:26:55,760 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 7: You can't eat just one. So what I'll do, I'll

1634
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 7: analyze the two teams that you guys gave me, and

1635
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 7: we'll try to find some middle ground. I already bet

1636
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 7: Minnesota Week one breaking news. I've already made multiple Week

1637
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 7: one bets. One of them was Minnesota plus one and

1638
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 7: a half at Chicago Week one. Monday Night football should

1639
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 7: be a fantastic game. Gonna be an awesome Monday Night.

1640
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 5: I love how your brain works, Jared. You are ten

1641
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 5: steps ahead of the rest of the world.

1642
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing, Like.

1643
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 7: JJ McCarty's like Schrodinger's cat, like we don't know. He

1644
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 7: could be the next coming of Peyton Manning, like he

1645
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 7: very well could be. He could be the next to

1646
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 7: Marcus Russell, like you know, it could be either or

1647
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 7: I would lean towards the positive because of what you said,

1648
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 7: Rich the coach, the supporting cast, which is what Brian mentioned.

1649
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 7: Like all of those things, I think are very positive

1650
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 7: for McCarthy and O'Connell. This is a very good Vikings team.

1651
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 7: Their schedule is very interesting. I think Minnesota, I'll leave

1652
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 7: it at this, they have a very interesting schedule. Week

1653
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 7: one at Chicago Monday Night, a lot of Kleb Williams

1654
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 7: hype of course with Ben Johnson and all that fun

1655
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 7: stuff happened in Chicago. Then another primetime game the next

1656
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 7: week against Michael Pennix and a very interesting, uh, you know,

1657
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 7: a mixed bag with what Atlanta's doing. I think the

1658
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 7: Falcons are very live to win the NFC South. Then

1659
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 7: they play Cincinnati with an MVP candidate and a defense

1660
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 7: that we're not sure about. Then they go overseas back

1661
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 7: to back games Ireland and London, Pittsburgh, Cleveland. So those

1662
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 7: first five games, by the way, they're favored in four

1663
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 7: of the five, and the Minnesota Chicago game Week ones

1664
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 7: to pick them, I mean, they very well could be

1665
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 7: three and two four and want to start. And then

1666
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 7: they go to their by obviously after the two games overseas,

1667
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 7: and they face the Eagles, the Chargers, the Lions, the Ravens.

1668
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 7: So those first nine weeks for Minnesota up till week

1669
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 7: ten are just a roller coaster ride. You're going overseas,

1670
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 7: you're facing divisional opponents, you're facing the defending champs, you're

1671
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 7: facing a team that had the best record in the

1672
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 7: league last year. Like, it's just you got a lot

1673
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,759
Speaker 7: on your plate those those first nine weeks. For New England,

1674
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 7: it's the opposite. The expectations are super high, but last

1675
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 7: year wasn't good. So it's like Minnesota great year last year,

1676
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 7: expectations medium this year, New England last year terrible. Now

1677
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 7: expectations sky high. Like, I think both teams are probably

1678
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 7: gonna land somewhere in the middle there. I would probably

1679
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 7: lean to the under on New England just because I

1680
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 7: worry about a team that barely could win a game

1681
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 7: last year. Now they're expected their favored in a bunch

1682
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 7: and they're expected to win like nine ten games, whereas

1683
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 7: Minnesota still kind of flying under the radar, which is

1684
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 7: exactly where they were last year when they went total

1685
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 7: was six and a half and they won fourteen. So

1686
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 7: if you ask me of those two, which one I'm

1687
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,719
Speaker 7: more bullish on this year, I think it'd be Minnesota.

1688
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 3: Well, I just I'll say, if you compare the two quarterbacks.

1689
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 3: Think about Drake May, who is the third overall pick

1690
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 3: last year, and he was not expected to hit the

1691
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 3: ground running. It's not like the Patriots had these sky

1692
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 3: high expectations, you know what I mean. They were coming

1693
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 3: off a fourteen win season the year before, and now

1694
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, Drake May, there's a standard here.

1695
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 3: You got to produce out of the shoot. You know

1696
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 3: we got we need wins, we need production individual numbers

1697
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 3: from me. It wasn't like that at all. And all

1698
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:30,600
Speaker 3: things considered, Drake May played pretty well, but his expectations,

1699
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 3: like people weren't sitting there with their arms folded, skytl

1700
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 3: on their face, like dude, you better start performing right now.

1701
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 3: But that's the way it's gonna be with JJ McCarthy.

1702
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 3: That's why the Vikings are so fascinating to me. And

1703
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 3: the McCarthy dynamic, it's just it's different, Like Cam Woard

1704
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 3: the number one overall pick. We're not gonna expect him

1705
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 3: to just hit the ground running. It's not like they

1706
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 3: won fourteen games. They lost fourteen games last season, you know.

1707
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 3: So it's just such a different dynamic for McCarthy than

1708
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 3: the other quarterbacks. That's why I'm fascinated one other thing

1709
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 3: to throw out. If you look at division odds, they're

1710
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 3: all out. If you look at the AFC West, oh boy,

1711
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 3: Chiefs have won it the last nine years in a row.

1712
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 3: Andy Reid has done it seven years in a row

1713
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 3: with Mahomes. He did it the two prior years with

1714
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 3: Alex Smith. Andy Reid has won it for almost a decade.

1715
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 3: If they win it this next year, it will be

1716
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 3: a decade. The Chiefs are minus one twenty five to

1717
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 3: win the AFC West, and I'm like, wow, really, that's

1718
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 3: that's it? So would you make that bet? Or would

1719
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 3: you go in the three to one ish range? The

1720
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 3: Chargers are plus three thirty three, Broncos are plus three fifty.

1721
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 3: So if you bet one hundred bucks on on the Broncos, say,

1722
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 3: you would win three hundred and fifty dollars compared to

1723
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 3: if you bet those one hundred dollars on the Chiefs,

1724
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:58,759
Speaker 3: you're winning less than one hundred dollars.

1725
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 4: That's how big of a difference it is.

1726
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 3: But I don't know how you you don't make that

1727
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 3: wager on the Chiefs like their talent is still there.

1728
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 3: They addressed the offensive line, and this might sound weird.

1729
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 3: I think they're even more dangerous coming off a Super

1730
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 3: Bowl loss than they would be had they three peted

1731
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 3: like they just got punked on the biggest stage. And

1732
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 3: you're not telling me they aren't bent heading into this

1733
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 3: season and ultra focused throughout. I just Jim Harbaugh year

1734
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 3: two it was specially in San Francisco. Maybe it's special

1735
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 3: And with the Chargers, Broncos real defense that the top

1736
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 3: three teams played real defense last year, all of them

1737
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 3: were in the top five. But man, I love the Chiefs.

1738
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 3: You like them with minus won twenty five to win

1739
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 3: the West.

1740
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 2: Rich all right, So.

1741
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 5: Yes, to answer your question, you a single word, yes,

1742
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 5: And they're favored for a reason and gave all the reasons.

1743
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 5: So I'll give you the reason why. I think there's

1744
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:07,879
Speaker 5: value with the Broncos, with the Chargers, and even the Raiders.

1745
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 5: Now hang on tight because I know you're like, what

1746
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 5: well even mentioned the Raiders?

1747
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 2: What is your deal here?

1748
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 5: So look, there's only a handful or so really special

1749
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 5: coaches in the NFL. Right, there's only a handful or

1750
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 5: so really special quarterbacks in the NFL. You know, I mean,

1751
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 5: we could start splitting hairs around, you know, quarterback number

1752
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 5: six or seven. Same thing with the head coaches. But

1753
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 5: I mean, like you know, you start naming them. We've

1754
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 5: named a couple of them, Kevin O'Connell, Rabel, there's four

1755
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:45,719
Speaker 5: of them in the AFC West, Reid Harbaugh, Peyton Carroll.

1756
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 5: There's four of them in the AFC West. And then

1757
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 5: you go, okay, well, I mean, surely all four of

1758
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 5: them cannot possibly have a quarterback that's ranked in the

1759
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 5: top ten.

1760
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, you go, well, hang

1761
01:33:58,000 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 2: on a second, Patrick Mahomes.

1762
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:04,600
Speaker 5: Justin Herbert bo Nix is flirting with top ten, and

1763
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 5: Gino Smith has performed over the past handful of years

1764
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 5: like a top ten quarterback at times throughout the first

1765
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 5: season where we really burst on the scene in Seattle.

1766
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 5: So yeah, listen, I can see the value. Well, I

1767
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,599
Speaker 5: would rather take the favorite in this discussion. I can

1768
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 5: completely see the value in putting a little money, putting

1769
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 5: a little scratch on the Chargers. If you're a big

1770
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 5: believer in Harbaugh on the up and coming Broncos, if

1771
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 5: you're a big believer in the Peyton Knicks era, I

1772
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 5: can see the value there.

1773
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 7: So I think it's either Chargers or Chiefs. I don't

1774
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:53,560
Speaker 7: think Denver's ready yet, just based off of my initial evaluation.

1775
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 6: Obviously Vegas.

1776
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 7: Don't get me wrong, I would love to see the

1777
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:58,759
Speaker 7: Gino Smith experiment turn.

1778
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 6: Into then the Gold and Nim Hills, but I don't.

1779
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 6: I don't think it's gonna happen.

1780
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 7: The reason why I would be willing to bet the

1781
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 7: Chiefs look at the Week one game, right. The Chargers

1782
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 7: gave up their home game to play the opener in

1783
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 7: Brazil against the Chiefs the Friday night game, and the

1784
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 7: Chiefs are favored in that game by three points.

1785
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 6: So the money line is going to be hired the

1786
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 6: minus one twenty five.

1787
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 7: If you think the Chiefs are winning Week one, why

1788
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 7: would you bet the Chargers to win the division.

1789
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 6: In Week one or before Week one?

1790
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 7: You're gonna get a better number after that game, right,

1791
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 7: So that you have to ask yourself that question first,

1792
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 7: don't worry about the division odds. Week one, Kansas City

1793
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 7: LA on a neutral in Brazil, Chiefs favored by a

1794
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 7: field goal, who wins? We all pretty much think the

1795
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 7: Chiefs are going to win that game. I mean that

1796
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 7: there's your answer right there. So yeah, I did this

1797
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 7: last Remember I did the Division winners parlay, which hit

1798
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 7: last year. I think it was like ten to one.

1799
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 7: I did it the week or two weeks before the

1800
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 7: season started. The Chiefs were one of those teams. They

1801
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 7: were in the division parlay for the AFC West. Probably

1802
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 7: going to be in there this year because if I

1803
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 7: think the Chiefs are winning Week one in Brazil, which

1804
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 7: I do, can't take the Chargers at least not yet.

1805
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, minus one twenty five almost seems too good

1806
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 3: to be true. I saw that, and I was like,

1807
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. Yeah, I realized there's some legitimate competition minus

1808
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 3: the Raiders, but I still I'm not making a bet

1809
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 3: on those other two teams.

1810
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, fifty on the money line week one before I'm betting.

1811
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 6: There's your price difference right there.

1812
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey, if you got like crazy gamble in you,

1813
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 3: maybe you back the Chargers after they lose Week one.

1814
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 6: Shit, no time to bet la, right right?

1815
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,160
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1825
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1826
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:21,320
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1835
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 3: we actually have three trades to discuss over there. So

1836
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 3: how about this The Calves just traded for Lonzo Ball.

1837
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 6: Don't hate it?

1838
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Wow?

1839
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 3: Lonzo Ball going to the Calves, and hey, good for him, right,

1840
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 3: like Lonzo Ball is, it's been pretty good. It's just

1841
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 3: the injuries. The injuries have been such a setback for him.

1842
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 3: But going to a team that had the best record

1843
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 3: in the East, like legitimate chance to get some minutes

1844
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 3: be on a really, really good team. Can't say the

1845
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 3: same for the playing for the Bulls these days, and

1846
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 3: the Calves give up Isaac Ocoro. But interesting move for

1847
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 3: the Calves to go out and get Lonzo Ball where yeah,

1848
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 3: he's got high upside, but the injury issues are obvious.

1849
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 3: But kind of like a whoa, okay, Calves targeting Lonzo Ball.

1850
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 4: Okay, it's like a oh, yow, all right.

1851
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 5: I think they have belief in the structure, in the

1852
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 5: system they built. Obviously a playoff team this year, obviously

1853
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 5: a young team, inexperienced team. He's now a veteran in

1854
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 5: this league and high upside on this trade. If he

1855
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 5: can stay healthy, he can be a contributor in Cleveland.

1856
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it.

1857
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 6: I'll be honest, I kind of like it.

1858
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 7: I mean, they had the best record in the East

1859
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,560
Speaker 7: this year, couldn't get past.

1860
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 6: The second round.

1861
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 7: Obviously, Indiana ended up, you know, looking a lot better

1862
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:14,440
Speaker 7: than we expected.

1863
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 6: You know, a team that knocked out Cleveland.

1864
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 7: But I I think I think you spice it up

1865
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 7: a little bit, right, Like that's kind of what they're missing,

1866
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 7: is this spicy score who can do a whole bunch

1867
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 7: of different things. You know, isn't afraid of the moment.

1868
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 7: It feels like an intriguing trade where I actually kind

1869
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 7: of like Cleveland a little more now.

1870
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 3: Hmm, yeah, I just you gotta wonder if he's gonna

1871
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 3: stay healthy. Obviously absolutely two seasons, like two and a

1872
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 3: half seasons due to injury. So man, that's well, see

1873
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 3: it's always I'll say this, it's really interesting to see

1874
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 3: how these teams are tinkered with. Think about Oka, see right, Okay,

1875
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 3: see went and traded Josh Gitdty for Alex Caruso. They

1876
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,639
Speaker 3: went and they got Isaiah Hartenstein, and both of those

1877
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 3: guys contributed in big ways. That worked out for Sam Presty.

1878
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 3: So I mean this is not a blockbuster trade, but

1879
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 3: in terms of being a role player getting minutes, you know,

1880
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 3: like getting Lonzo Ball, he's gonna be expected to be

1881
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 3: one of their contributors. So interesting one. Now here's a

1882
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 3: trade that makes not a whole lot of sense at

1883
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 3: all considering the risk factor. The New Orleans Pelicans, Oh

1884
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 3: my goodness, Joe Dumars, who's new in town. He's like,

1885
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 3: I'm wheeling and dlan on draft night. So this was

1886
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 3: a round one and Joe Dumars, he traded up ten

1887
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 3: spots to get Derreck Queen, who was a really good

1888
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 3: freshman for the Crab five over there at Maryland, had

1889
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 3: the game winning shot against the Sparti right. Some said

1890
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 3: it was a travel, but the official said it was

1891
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 3: the gather and then the two steps, so we're all good.

1892
01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:00,559
Speaker 3: A huge shot nevertheless, But Derreck Queen, he gets drafted

1893
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 3: by the Pelicans. They move up ten spots. All it

1894
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:07,760
Speaker 3: cost them was their unprotected first round pick. Next year.

1895
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 3: New Orleans went twenty one and sixty one. They had

1896
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 3: the fourth worst NBA record last season. If the ping

1897
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 3: pong balls go a little bit differently, if they're in

1898
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 3: the twenty one ish win range, this could literally be

1899
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:27,759
Speaker 3: the number one overall pick that New Orleans just traded

1900
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 3: away next year. It's like, listen, Derek Queen might end

1901
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 3: up being a good NBA player. That is way too

1902
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 3: big of a risk for Derek Queen. That's you can't

1903
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 3: spend one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars on a

1904
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 3: Nissan Ultima. It's just not worth it, right Like, And

1905
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 3: even though Queen might be good, I just think that

1906
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:52,080
Speaker 3: is as way too big of a risk for New

1907
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 3: Orleans who's trying to rebuild, and they might have just

1908
01:41:55,400 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 3: sent away one of their key rebuilding chips in this treis.

1909
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 5: What's weird about it is the attached value, like the

1910
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 5: added value and the added pressure when you make a

1911
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 5: move like this. So this is obviously for for all

1912
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:18,679
Speaker 5: the reasons you just laid out a highly criticized trade.

1913
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 5: There are some people calling this the dumbest trade in

1914
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 5: a decade. And by the way, that's on the heels

1915
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,599
Speaker 5: of the Luka Doncic trade.

1916
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so.

1917
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 5: This this isn't good. I'm talking about just optics. It

1918
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 5: isn't good for Dumars.

1919
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 2: Okay.

1920
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 5: So then you hear his defense. His rationale is, I

1921
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 5: believe in Queen, He's going to be a cornerstone to

1922
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 5: this franchise. And then you know, the naysayers continue and

1923
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 5: he doubles down. He says, no, they don't know what

1924
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 5: they're talking about I do well. Look in poker, this

1925
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 5: is the all in moment, you know what I mean.

1926
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 5: This is when you take your chips, you slide them

1927
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 5: to the middle of the Bible and you say, my

1928
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 5: hand's better than than your hand. And who's gonna blink first?

1929
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,600
Speaker 5: You fold in or you hold him. Let's go. So

1930
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 5: we're about to find out whether or not du Mars

1931
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 5: is keeping his job. That's basically what this comes down to.

1932
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 5: Because you can't gamble two first round draft picks in

1933
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:22,719
Speaker 5: the NBA on a player and miss.

1934
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 2: You just can't do it.

1935
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:28,759
Speaker 6: You guys watched Seinfeld back in the day. Jackie childs, It's.

1936
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 7: Preposterous, it's ludicrous, it's asinine, it's idiotic.

1937
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 6: Like I just I can't but I like it. But I.

1938
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 7: Can't think of a of an adjective more uh apropos

1939
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 7: than than those.

1940
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:45,680
Speaker 6: I let's just break it down, right.

1941
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:51,759
Speaker 7: You take Jeremiah Fear's seventh overall defensive questions under size guard,

1942
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 7: huge upside to the offense for sure. You've already got

1943
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 7: Zion Williamson on your team. You got Jordan Poole on

1944
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,759
Speaker 7: your team. You've got Sadik Bay coming off a knee injury.

1945
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 7: You've got a lot of defensive liabilities, and then you

1946
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 7: trade up for a player that Listen, I think Derek

1947
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 7: Queen has a chance to be a good player, But

1948
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 7: the biggest question mark we had on him going in

1949
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 7: was not a great defensive player for a big So

1950
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:23,759
Speaker 7: you're basically building an entire roster of suspect defensive players

1951
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 7: and you had a bad year this year. I don't

1952
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 7: think they're that much better to where you are ticketing

1953
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 7: them for a top six seed this year, So likely

1954
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 7: that is going to be a lottery pick next year.

1955
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 6: Maybe it's not the number one pick. We've seen how

1956
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 6: we've seen.

1957
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 7: How the draft lottery kind of rewards certain teams and

1958
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 7: penalizes others. So maybe the lottery gods will not bestow

1959
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:53,719
Speaker 7: a number one pick.

1960
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 6: To New Orleans next year if they have a bad record.

1961
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 6: But this is a risky move.

1962
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is really ski and maybe Joe Dumars is

1963
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 7: drinking the you know, the Cajun gumbo down there in

1964
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:05,639
Speaker 7: New Orleans.

1965
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 6: But I just I wouldn't have made this move.

1966
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 7: However, I do think Derek Queen's gonna be a good player,

1967
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:13,600
Speaker 7: and I love the fact that the first thing he

1968
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 7: did after he got drafted was he updated his LinkedIn.

1969
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 6: Profile, which was hilarious to me.

1970
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm congratulations, I'm now a professional basketball player in

1971
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 7: the NBA.

1972
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 6: Like, I don't know if I would do that if

1973
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 6: I was in the NBA. But hey, he's just like us,

1974
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 6: and it's just it's just a risky move. That's so

1975
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 6: risky way to describe it.

1976
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, some take it for what it's worth. Some had

1977
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 3: Derek Queen rated outside the top thirty. They didn't have

1978
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 3: him rated as a first round pick, and Dumer just

1979
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 3: made that trade.

1980
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 6: That's wow.

1981
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 3: That is a double eyebrow razer. That's a you to

1982
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 3: brow raiser. Everything's raised on that.

1983
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 6: Wow for Repelican Anthony Davis Brow.

1984
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

1985
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 3: All ties in. Okay. One other to discuss, how about uh,

1986
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant. He's heading to the Houston Rockets. So the

1987
01:45:56,479 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 3: Suns they get Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks to overall pick

1988
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 3: in this year's draft, and five second round picks for

1989
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:09,440
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant and listen, man, this is a really interesting

1990
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 3: thing with Kevin Durant because I love him as a player,

1991
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 3: but he's kind of like in the Yeah, but territory

1992
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 3: right now, right where he's thirty six years old.

1993
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:22,799
Speaker 4: He is a living legend. He's a walking bucket.

1994
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 2: Still.

1995
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 3: He's averaged twenty seven points for his entire career, just

1996
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 3: scored under twenty seven last season, a scoch over twenty

1997
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 3: seven the year prior with the Suns. So he's a

1998
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 3: walking bucket. He can score for you. But you know,

1999
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 3: I told you I'm rewatching the last dance. And there

2000
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 3: was a line from Jordan, and I can't help but

2001
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 3: think of Kevin Durant differently, Like here, listen to the

2002
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 3: line of what Jordan said about his approach when he

2003
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 3: was on the basketball court.

2004
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 1: Here you go, every time I step on that basketball court,

2005
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 1: my focus is to win a game.

2006
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 2: It drives me insane when I can.

2007
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:02,639
Speaker 3: Okay, now, think about that as it relates to KD.

2008
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 3: I look at some of the greats like Jordan, it

2009
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,639
Speaker 3: killed him to lose, Kobe, it killed him to lose.

2010
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 4: It does not kill Kevin.

2011
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 3: Durant to lose. And that's the thing where I think

2012
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 3: sometimes we just look at stats and individual numbers and

2013
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 3: KD has them. But in terms of just like driving

2014
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 3: the bus, the engine, you know, what I mean, And

2015
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,759
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's not a competitive player. Kevin Durant

2016
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:34,760
Speaker 3: is competitive, but it's not this you know, fierce it

2017
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 3: kills me to lose. It's not like that with him.

2018
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 3: So I think on paper KD is a really nice

2019
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 3: addition for the Rockets, But in actuality, does he get

2020
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 3: them in range to seriously challenge for a title? I'm

2021
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 3: here to say I don't think he does. And I

2022
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 3: love him as a player, but I just don't think

2023
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 3: he does at this stage. Am I wrong here?

2024
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,719
Speaker 5: I don't get wrong necessarily. I do think it could

2025
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 5: pan out for them, and I understand Houston's rationale. You know,

2026
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 5: they finished second in the West. They they look at

2027
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 5: this and they say to themselves, how do we build

2028
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 5: for the now? Whereas the Suns it's a complete change

2029
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 5: of direction, building around a younger star and getting much

2030
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 5: younger with the draft capital they received. And now, you know,

2031
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 5: let's just focus on Durant himself for a second. This

2032
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 5: is his fifth franchise he's played for now. It's kind

2033
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 5: of weird when you think about his path from the

2034
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:40,919
Speaker 5: Thunder to the Warriors, to the Nets, then the Suns

2035
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 5: and now onto the rockets. His legacy is set, but

2036
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:50,799
Speaker 5: I think he's kind of nomadic and if there's something

2037
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 5: that's sort of I don't know when I think of

2038
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant. When I think about him, it's like a

2039
01:48:58,040 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 5: rolling stone gathers no more.

2040
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 2: I don't have anything.

2041
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 5: I don't have anything bad to say about him, other

2042
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 5: than at times maybe he allowed the media to bother him.

2043
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:14,879
Speaker 5: The media snipes that he red and he was barbed

2044
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 5: by to bother him a little too much. But other

2045
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 5: than that, isn't it weird when there's a nondescript champion,

2046
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 5: like you know what I mean? Like I feel that

2047
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 5: way about Kawhi Leonard, and I don't feel that way

2048
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 5: about Kobe. I don't feel that way about Shaq. I

2049
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 5: don't feel that way about Jordan or Pippen. I don't

2050
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 5: feel that way about Draymond or Steph or Clay. But

2051
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:42,560
Speaker 5: I do feel that way about Kevin Durant.

2052
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

2053
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 5: I think there's like a strange aloofness that he has

2054
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 5: about his career, and I think he takes himself a

2055
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 5: little too seriously on social media and it's kind of

2056
01:49:56,320 --> 01:50:00,080
Speaker 5: been a distraction. Like you said, he's even as a

2057
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 5: older player, he's a walking bucket. I think his veteran

2058
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:06,639
Speaker 5: experience can lend leadership to Houston. I think they could

2059
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 5: be a much better team with him. But when you

2060
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 5: hear Kevin Durant's name anymore, it doesn't have the same

2061
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:18,839
Speaker 5: I don't know, it doesn't deliver with the same gusto

2062
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 5: it did when he left the Thunder for the first

2063
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:22,440
Speaker 5: time to join the Warriors.

2064
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:25,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's fair. I mean, five teams in ten years.

2065
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 7: You know, that's a new team every two years. You know,

2066
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 7: that's pretty that's pretty nomadic even in today's sports society.

2067
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:34,560
Speaker 6: I think.

2068
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 7: The market really likes this deal. I mean, Rockets are

2069
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 7: now the second favorite to win the NBA title. So wow,

2070
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 7: that's how much weight Kevin Durant gets in the market.

2071
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,559
Speaker 6: And Brian, I think your point was probably the one

2072
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 6: that hit home the most.

2073
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:53,760
Speaker 7: Like on paper, right, the market loves this deal, like

2074
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 7: Rockets are right there with the Thunder. I think the

2075
01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 7: Thunder deserved to be the favorite peer, but Houston getting

2076
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 7: a lot of love. Kevin Durant still takes a lot

2077
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 7: of weight when you have to guard him and you

2078
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 7: have to plan for him. In that Rockets lineup, right, Shangoon,

2079
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 7: look great, they got the veteran point guard, Van Fleet,

2080
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:17,719
Speaker 7: they got the up and coming wing player and Amen Thompson,

2081
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 7: like they got all the pieces in a vacuum. This

2082
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:26,640
Speaker 7: should be a team that's ready to roll. But to

2083
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 7: your point too, like that fire, do you have the

2084
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 7: ability to live up to.

2085
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:34,799
Speaker 6: The expectations he has in the past.

2086
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 7: This is a new fresh start like the Phoenix chapter.

2087
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 7: Like of all the chapters that KD has had, right,

2088
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 7: won the title with the Warriors, got close with the

2089
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 7: thunder disaster in Brooklyn with Harden, and then he goes

2090
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:55,639
Speaker 7: to Phoenix, like the it feels like we've gone down

2091
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 7: the ladder with each move. Okay, see you had this

2092
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 7: bright young star and then he goes to Golden State

2093
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 7: and it's awesome, and then Brooklyn kind of you know,

2094
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 7: a chip off the legacy and then Phoenix couple chips

2095
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 7: you know off the legacy.

2096
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:12,720
Speaker 6: Now, you know, how does it end?

2097
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 7: Because I think we can all agree that this probably

2098
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 7: is the last stop you would think, but I think

2099
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,640
Speaker 7: you've got to have a positive moment here because the

2100
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 7: last two stops for KD have been very negative.

2101
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing, is I don't know.

2102
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 3: I go back to what you said, Jeredy mentioned the Suns,

2103
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 3: and I don't want to put everything at Kd's feet

2104
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 3: because Bradley Beal is stealing money, right He is stealing

2105
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 3: a lot of money right now. He's just not producing.

2106
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 3: Bradley Beal is not a good player at all anymore.

2107
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 3: And they didn't have any bench. You have Devin Booker

2108
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 3: and a collection of dudes if you're looking at it

2109
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 3: from kd's vantage point, right, So I don't want to

2110
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 3: put everything on KD.

2111
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 4: But I still go back to Jordan Kobe.

2112
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:06,720
Speaker 3: If you put them on that same Phoenix team, is

2113
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 3: there record what it was with KD. Wait, well, I

2114
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 3: don't know if they go that much, but they're better

2115
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 3: just based on sheer will, you know what I mean?

2116
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 3: Like just sheer fire. There's no way they're going down

2117
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 3: like that. The Sons were thirty six and forty six.

2118
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 3: They were thirty two games back of OKC, like and

2119
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:31,559
Speaker 3: that's the thing where I just look at KD and

2120
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 3: although he's a walking bucket, to make this trade and

2121
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:39,640
Speaker 3: to give up that young talent and all the picks,

2122
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 3: I just I want more fierceness.

2123
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 6: You know.

2124
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 3: I want more dog.

2125
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:46,759
Speaker 4: I don't want just numbers.

2126
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 3: I want someone that is fierce about winning, that is

2127
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 3: just an absolute dog and will chew your ears off

2128
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:56,720
Speaker 3: to win. And that's just not where KD is at

2129
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 3: this stage. And I'm not saying he isn't competitive. He is,

2130
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:03,640
Speaker 3: but it's not this insatiable thirst I have got to

2131
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:05,719
Speaker 3: at all costs. That's the way it was with Jordan

2132
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 3: some other greats. It's just not with KD. And that's

2133
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:10,679
Speaker 3: why I think he got to go beyond the numbers

2134
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 3: when it comes to dealing for KD right now. And

2135
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,840
Speaker 3: I get it. For Houston, I get why they did it.

2136
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I wouldn't all of a sudden think,

2137
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,960
Speaker 3: oh man, it's gonna bear all kinds of fruit immediately.

2138
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 3: I think he's a huge name in his game. His

2139
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 3: game isn't on par, his impact isn't on par with

2140
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 3: his name anymore. Is what I would say about KD.

2141
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 5: I don't disagree. I don't think you're gonna find much disagreement.

2142
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 5: The only thing I'll push back on is you don't

2143
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 5: have to necessarily win the regular season.

2144
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

2145
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 5: I think it's a kind of a beauty pageant like

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Speaker 5: who looks the best heading into the postseason. That's what

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Speaker 5: the regular season is now in the NBA, because it's

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Speaker 5: so diluted. I mean, ten teams get an opportunity from

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Speaker 5: each conference to win an NBA title every year. So

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Speaker 5: with that dilute of a field, all you got to

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Speaker 5: do is get your ball on the roulette wheel to

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Speaker 5: see if you can fare the best in the postseason.

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Speaker 5: So even though they may drag behind, Okay, see's still

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Speaker 5: in the West, I think adding Durant gives them a boost.

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Speaker 5: And like you said, Jared, clearly Vegas feels the same.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, interesting.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's rich Orenberger, Penn State All American Jared

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Speaker 3: Smith with us FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No. Shortly

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Speaker 3: Rapid Fire The Moment of Truth. Three selections for each

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Speaker 3: of us. We shall compare notes and see who the

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Speaker 3: of the Hour up on game, LaVar Arrington, TJ. Hushman, Zada, Plexico, Burus.

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Speaker 3: They are warming up in the bullpen. They will be

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Speaker 3: ready to throw fire right down the middle of the plate.

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Speaker 3: Less than ten minutes from now, keep it locked right

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Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio. All Right, we got some

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Speaker 3: picks to make. Let's rapid fire.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Jared, we start with you.

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Speaker 2: What do you like?

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Speaker 7: Well, I'll be honest, we're in the dog days right

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Speaker 7: now because usually I've got, you know, new picks that

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Speaker 7: I didn't give out earlier in the show.

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Speaker 6: This is a tough day to bet only one WNBA game.

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Speaker 7: I know baseball's you know, front and center, but there's

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Speaker 7: this not a whole lot on the board I like,

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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna do some recycled picks.

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Speaker 6: We gave this one earlier. I really like it though.

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Speaker 7: Padres Reds Nerfy minus one oh five over at at MGM.

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Speaker 6: This is pretty much a coin flip.

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Speaker 7: Andrew Rabbit, though, has not been a coin flip fifteen

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Speaker 7: consecutive Nerfy's. He's got good numbers against his Padres lineup,

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Speaker 7: and Randy Baska.

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Speaker 6: Has been pretty good too this year.

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Speaker 7: Cincinnati win blowing out today at the ballpark, but I

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Speaker 7: think we get that first inning scoreless sluggle Nurfy in

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Speaker 7: Padres Reds, I gave you Page Beckers over seventeen and

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Speaker 7: a half points.

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Speaker 6: I really like this.

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Speaker 7: She is the best scorer on this Dallas Wings team,

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Speaker 7: and she has been fantastic this year. They're facing the

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Speaker 7: Mystics tonight. I think this is going to be a

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Speaker 7: high scoring game. Total is in the one sixties, but

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Speaker 7: I think the Mystics also get the win. So I'll

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Speaker 7: go minus two and a half. Why Washington over Dallas.

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Speaker 7: This Mystics team, youngest team in the league, They're covering

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Speaker 7: a bunch of numbers. The market really hasn't caught up

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Speaker 7: to Washington yet, and Wings playing second of a back

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Speaker 7: to back.

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Speaker 6: They lost to the Fever last night.

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Speaker 7: So Albo Padres, Reds nrfy Mystics minus two and a

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Speaker 7: half at the Wings.

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Speaker 6: And Pagebackers over seventeen and a half points.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 5: Dodgers at Royals today. Freddy Freeman has scored a run

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Speaker 5: in four of his last five road games against right

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Speaker 5: handed starting pitchers, So give me Freeman over half a

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Speaker 5: run in this one. I'm also on Reds Padres today.

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Speaker 5: Give me the Reds minus one and a half, give

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Speaker 5: me the over on the nine and a half. There's

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Speaker 5: a lot of analysts will say there's no play on

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Speaker 5: either the spread or the UH or.

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Speaker 2: The run total today, which tells me to.

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Speaker 5: Go with my gut, and so we are, uh, we're

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Speaker 5: gonna take We're gonna take those Reds minus one and

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Speaker 5: a half. We're gonna take the over on that nine

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Speaker 5: and a half run with the win. Blow over at

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Speaker 5: the the America's Ballpark there in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Okay, slight disagreement, although it still we could thread the

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Speaker 3: needle and both be right. But I'm looking at this

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Speaker 3: Padres at Reds game. Andrew Abbott has been fantastic. Give

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Speaker 3: me under three and a half, under two and a

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Speaker 3: half earned runs against the Padres. A couple of reasons

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Speaker 3: Padres are tied. They're twenty second in runs scored this year,

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Speaker 3: They're not scoring runs left and right. And Andrew Abbott

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Speaker 3: has only given up at least three earned runs twice

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Speaker 3: this year in thirteen starts, and a nice little tie

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Speaker 3: in two thirteen is a song from Slayer. So how

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Speaker 3: could you not like the under in this situation here,

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Speaker 3: I'll roll with Abbot under two and a half earned runs,

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Speaker 3: give me over eight and a half. Marlins at the

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Speaker 3: d Backs Sandy Alcandre. His era is six sixty nine.

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Speaker 3: Brandon fa he is. I call him the Jr. Smith

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Speaker 3: of pitchers. Remember the streaky shooter JR.

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Speaker 2: Smith.

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Speaker 3: That'spot as a pitcher is era is five forty nine,

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Speaker 3: sometimes on point, sometimes he's not. It's actually ticked up

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Speaker 3: to nine. You can still go on the totals tab

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Speaker 3: on BETMGM. You can still take it at eight and

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Speaker 3: a half. Go over eight and a half. It's minus

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Speaker 3: a dollar thirty. Not crazy juice. I like you over

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Speaker 3: there and give me Giants White Sox under eight runs.

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Speaker 3: Robbie Ray has had a really good year. Adrian Hawser

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Speaker 3: quietly has been respectable in all six starts for the

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Speaker 3: White Sox. All of his games, by the way, have

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Speaker 3: been under eight runs collectively, So I like that as well. Done,

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Speaker 3: give me under eight for Giants White Sox. Giants are

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Speaker 3: offensively challenged anyway. Hey, good stuff today, guys. Everybody. Enjoy

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Speaker 3: your day.