Speaker 1: It is Monday, December. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon.
Speaker 1: My name's J. P. Shadrick. We have a busy show
Speaker 1: as always on Monday. Of course, CBS Sports senior writer
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco joining us prior to the Jaguars. Left tackle
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is nearby. We'll hear from him soon. The
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer aftermath continues, in fact reviewing Week fifteen, the
Speaker 1: Texans over the Jaguars thirty to sixteen. The final score.
Speaker 1: The Jags are number one in the draft order next year.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that, of course, social media questions and
Speaker 1: around the NFL and Week fifteen, Welcome in again. A
Speaker 1: wild week, of course with the Jacksonville Jaguars that started
Speaker 1: truly last Saturday, NFL media reports about tension between the players,
Speaker 1: the staff, and head coach Urban Meyer, and then the
Speaker 1: next day a twenty nothing loss at Tennessee. Last Monday,
Speaker 1: Jack's owner Shot con was meeting with select media members
Speaker 1: on the eve of the tenth anniversary of ownership, so
Speaker 1: he was out in the media with a lot of
Speaker 1: things going on, NFL owners meetings in Dallas Tuesday and Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Times article released Wednesday afternoon, but in reality
Speaker 1: the wheels had been in motion, and then Thursday at
Speaker 1: twelve thirty nine am the announcement that Meyer was fired.
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday preparation under interim head coach Daryl Bevil,
Speaker 1: and then Saturday at five pm Meyer speaking with Ian
Speaker 1: Rappaport of NFL Media, apologizing to Jacksonville, denying accusations against
Speaker 1: him in the final days. And then Sunday, a loss
Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans with a third round rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: in Houston and a handful of starters out for the
Speaker 1: Texans with COVID nineteen special teams issues, dropped some few
Speaker 1: big plays on offense. Interim head coach Darryl Bevil after
Speaker 1: the game, you know it really what really ends up
Speaker 1: being a normal week. I mean, we're used to all
Speaker 1: kinds of things that change, and so we have to
Speaker 1: be ready to um to make adjustments and uh and
Speaker 1: and be able to adapt to the situation and thought
Speaker 1: our guys, whether it was the players or the coaches
Speaker 1: did a good job putting the plan together. Um, the
Speaker 1: guys were, The guys were ready, they were into it. Um,
Speaker 1: we just didn't play a clean football game today. That's
Speaker 1: Darryl Bevil of course. Pete Prisco joining us now CBS
Speaker 1: Sports senior writer, And a good afternoon, Pete. What a
Speaker 1: week it's been. Man. Where where's the big fella? I
Speaker 1: don't know. He's apparently nearby. He said he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a few minutes behind. He had something going on and
Speaker 1: he'll be in here. Well, maybe I said, having that
Speaker 1: needing to try and become the general manager, I see that.
Speaker 1: You think that's what they haven't even got. They haven't
Speaker 1: even got rid of the new gentleman, the old generalman.
Speaker 1: He's already sniffing around. It's a cold business. You like
Speaker 1: stirring it up, Pete, I know how you do. I
Speaker 1: sure do, boy, I started up for a while, didn't I. Look. Look,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I was not surprised he
Speaker 1: got fired. Uh should he have been fired? Yes, he
Speaker 1: should have been fired. Um. How many different ways did
Speaker 1: I say without really saying it? I mean I said no,
Speaker 1: I said said yeah, I said it. I I just
Speaker 1: think that the whole thing got out of control, and
Speaker 1: it's it's unfair, Like I went on my my rant
Speaker 1: last week, it's unfair to the fans to have this
Speaker 1: happen again, and you can't allow it to happen again.
Speaker 1: So now he's gone. Uh, they have to go find
Speaker 1: the right guy to build this thing around that quarterback.
Speaker 1: And and the quarterback has regressed. And I watched the
Speaker 1: tape today and he missed some throws, and his mechanics
Speaker 1: have waned, and his feet aren't great, and like the
Speaker 1: throw to Marvin Jones in the end zone should have
Speaker 1: been a touchdown, and his aiming, his feet were bad,
Speaker 1: his aiming point was bad. There's all these little things
Speaker 1: that have gone wrong with him. And so I think
Speaker 1: it's a combination of a bunch of different reasons why.
Speaker 1: But now you move forward and find the guy to
Speaker 1: fix them, find the guy to to build it around him.
Speaker 1: And I think they can. I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of good offensive coaches out there. Uh, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of smart people out there, and I think they can
Speaker 1: find the right guy. Don't get caught up in name.
Speaker 1: Don't get caught up in name. That's all I have
Speaker 1: to say. They've played that game before. Look, they played
Speaker 1: at this time Urban Meyer, the name, the name of
Speaker 1: the name. Clearly, Um, this was a mistake, and I
Speaker 1: think Seanko had been in this mistake by firing him.
Speaker 1: And now you move on. But not a good look
Speaker 1: for this franchise. Laughing stock again. Hate to say it,
Speaker 1: but it is laughing stock franchise. Everybody around the league
Speaker 1: laughing at him. How could they do this? How could
Speaker 1: the same thing happen over and over again? What do
Speaker 1: you do to fix it? Who? Who does Sean con
Speaker 1: consult with? That's a good question, Uh, because I don't
Speaker 1: think Trent Ball he's gonna be back. I just don't.
Speaker 1: So you can't rely on him. And so what do
Speaker 1: you do? Who do you rely on? Who do you
Speaker 1: lean on? What do you call for advice? That's the
Speaker 1: million dollar questions right now. Because I don't think shod
Speaker 1: Khan can do it himself. That's a big question for sure.
Speaker 1: Pete Priska with us Tony Boselli coming up here on
Speaker 1: Jaguar's Happy Hour. How about the aftermath of this the
Speaker 1: last few days, all the stories and interviews and things
Speaker 1: that are happening with the urban and you know, trying
Speaker 1: that this football team is trying to move forward and
Speaker 1: get some things done. They didn't play obviously well on Sunday.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot flying around right now, including Tony Boselli,
Speaker 1: including toys walking through the walking right in front of
Speaker 1: the camera. Of course, Donty, don't worry about us. We're
Speaker 1: just doing a show here. Welcome to the show, Tony.
Speaker 1: This show is much better now that I'm here, Pete.
Speaker 1: Less of you, more me. How did it? How did
Speaker 1: it go? Tony? How do the interview go for the
Speaker 1: GM job to go? Well? That was the meeting you
Speaker 1: were at, right, you gonna give me a no, no, no.
Speaker 1: He was chopping and she was chopping a tree down.
Speaker 1: It's cold. Look at this jacket, he's got it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your lumberjack today? Is that what it is? Started? Like Christmas? Jack?
Speaker 1: Is it cold? It's freezy outside? Ye, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to rub it. It was eighty two today here,
Speaker 1: so it's not. Yeah, I was. It was eighty two
Speaker 1: of the weekend here and I was on the boat
Speaker 1: hanging out. Now it's cold, Pete. And I've become a
Speaker 1: Florida I've become a Floridian, like I don't like the cold.
Speaker 1: Don't like cold. Neither do I. And by the way,
Speaker 1: speaking of cold, uh, they got a cold body out
Speaker 1: of it the other day. And then I mean, my gosh,
Speaker 1: they cleaned it out and I got tony. I said already,
Speaker 1: I said, they gave him. I give Shand Khan credit
Speaker 1: for admitting his mistake. He deserves the merits for making
Speaker 1: the mistake. But he admitted it, and that's that's the
Speaker 1: best decision for the franchise. He made, made the decision
Speaker 1: to get rid of that guy. And look how many
Speaker 1: different ways did we say it on here or I
Speaker 1: did anyway, he's you never said it, but I did
Speaker 1: um that he had to go. Well, Pete, I think
Speaker 1: you have a really good point, and I'm sorry I
Speaker 1: missed a couple first couple of minutes. Is that that's
Speaker 1: not that was not an easy decision for Shot And
Speaker 1: I know, like for the fans and even us and
Speaker 1: what we do. And people are like, oh, just fine,
Speaker 1: just get rid of him, like that's like the easy button,
Speaker 1: Like we think it's easy, Like we'll just get rid
Speaker 1: of him. He's a bad coach or he's not doing
Speaker 1: a bad job or whatever. But if you, like, I
Speaker 1: would challenge all of us and anyone listening, like, put
Speaker 1: yourself in shot shoes, I mean number one. And yes
Speaker 1: he got it wrong. That's never like no one ever
Speaker 1: wants to admit you got it wrong, and especially when
Speaker 1: you invest a lot of time and money and energy
Speaker 1: like there's I always try to remind people it's like
Speaker 1: Shot Cohn wants to win, like that's the goal, Like
Speaker 1: he is, like he is trying his best. Now you
Speaker 1: could argue that it's not worked, it's not been the
Speaker 1: right call, that's fine, but don't question the desire and
Speaker 1: the investment to try to win and what impressed me
Speaker 1: about the situation, because that's a hard decision because he
Speaker 1: like this was his hire and there was a lot
Speaker 1: of excitement about it, and it was a big higher
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of investment into it into
Speaker 1: make the call he did last week, and the way
Speaker 1: he did it and the timing and how swift he
Speaker 1: was and decisive. That's not easy to do. I don't
Speaker 1: care what anyone says and like, oh he was a
Speaker 1: bad guy and you have cause this or whatever, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. There's an emotion. There's an emotional side to it,
Speaker 1: and I'm with you, Pete. I applaud shot. It was
Speaker 1: a tough decision. It was the right decision in my
Speaker 1: mind and in my opinion, but that doesn't make it easy.
Speaker 1: When you're the guy who has to do it and
Speaker 1: you have a lot of emotion and money and time
Speaker 1: invested into that individual, it'll be it'll be an easier
Speaker 1: decision if they get the honey money, they don't have
Speaker 1: to pay the money out for cause, then it's an
Speaker 1: easy decision. Really well, I don't know if it's easy,
Speaker 1: but you know, you still make emotion. Remember how big
Speaker 1: a deal it was when he was what's an ego
Speaker 1: thing too? You look bad. It looks bad for the organization.
Speaker 1: Hiring has not been right. His hiring his head coaches
Speaker 1: has not been good. Let's be real about it. It
Speaker 1: has a been so he thought he had his guy
Speaker 1: and he didn't get his guy, and so it's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: It's not embarrassing because he's above that. He's too good
Speaker 1: a man, he's above being embarrassed. But it's a bad
Speaker 1: look for the organization to keep missing on your head
Speaker 1: coaches and missed this guy when you think he's the
Speaker 1: greatest of the great He got bamboozled about urban Meyer.
Speaker 1: He got caught up. It's like I always say about players,
Speaker 1: it's game, not named, game, not name. They got caught
Speaker 1: up in the name because clearly that he wasn't any game.
Speaker 1: There was, Yeah, there was no game. And I think
Speaker 1: you know, I think you're right. It's not that he's
Speaker 1: like it's embarrassing, but you don't. I mean, shot Con
Speaker 1: did not become successful or arrive at the success he
Speaker 1: has as a business person if he wasn't like uber
Speaker 1: can petitive, like the dude likes to win. He wins
Speaker 1: it everything in life. Like he is really dangn good
Speaker 1: at business, like and like makes tough calls and and
Speaker 1: like makes the right call and and so he's competitive.
Speaker 1: Like that hurts when you lose and when it's your
Speaker 1: decision and it doesn't work out and it impacts. It's
Speaker 1: not about him be embarrassed. I mean who It's like
Speaker 1: when I lost the game. I wasn't embarrassed. I was mad.
Speaker 1: I want to win. It's about winning and and that's
Speaker 1: hard and to admit that and to cut your losses. Um,
Speaker 1: I applaud him I think it was the right move,
Speaker 1: like I said, and uh, it's time to move forward.
Speaker 1: I'm glad, you know, we don't have to talk about
Speaker 1: that situation any longer because it was a bad situation.
Speaker 1: I said it last week, I said this morning on
Speaker 1: the show. You know what I'm saying after he is,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, after this show, we won't have to talk
Speaker 1: about it anymore. Well, there'll probably be five more things
Speaker 1: that pop up that we can about. Oh yeah, that's true. Now, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: one quick thing, Tony. The mechanism for getting rid of
Speaker 1: them was in place from what I hear before the
Speaker 1: Lambo story went public, because they knew about the Lambo story.
Speaker 1: I don't think, yes, I don't think that he was
Speaker 1: fired because of Josh Lambo's accusation of being kicked and
Speaker 1: being called bad names. By the way, there's some people
Speaker 1: that would have thought that Josh Lambo was the one
Speaker 1: doing a kick. I would say, like, and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's okay. And I know, j I don't know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I know the world's different that yes,
Speaker 1: you do. But Pete, what didn't people get called names
Speaker 1: all the time when I was playing here? Oh, he
Speaker 1: get me. I mean, I could go through a laundry
Speaker 1: list of things that he did. It's a different time, Tony,
Speaker 1: you know that's different. I never I never got kicked
Speaker 1: in a day. I never got kicked. But I said
Speaker 1: I never got kicked though, No, that he was more
Speaker 1: of a verbal warrior than anything. He was fear. It
Speaker 1: was fear, not physical. It's fear. Well, but I mean
Speaker 1: there were times where Tom probably got a little bit
Speaker 1: across the line. Maybe not back then there was no
Speaker 1: line um today, yeah, probably the But to your point
Speaker 1: your question, Pete, No, I do not think and everything
Speaker 1: I've heard in all the statements, I do not think
Speaker 1: that urban Meyer was fired by shot Cohn because of
Speaker 1: the Josh Lambo situation. I do not think that's why
Speaker 1: I think there's a fire him with cause that you
Speaker 1: didn't need that for that reason. That's my opinion. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know another. I mean, that's kind of what
Speaker 1: I've heard and probably heard the same time. I've heard
Speaker 1: that though through the grapevine for people that that's exactly
Speaker 1: what it was. So so, and now they've taken criticism
Speaker 1: for not firing them. That Monday Sunday, your money, you
Speaker 1: know some people. Yeah, why why why wait until the
Speaker 1: middle of the night. Why does it matter? Some times? Well,
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to go through some fine lines on
Speaker 1: the paperwork and everything. What's the hurry through their due diligence? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what does it matter if theory being that you didn't
Speaker 1: game plan. The best thing about it is he didn't even.
Speaker 1: He didn't even he didn't even talk to his team.
Speaker 1: Well the word is he to his coaches? He walked
Speaker 1: out the door. Well, it sounds like it wasn't the
Speaker 1: first time he left, based on some of the comments.
Speaker 1: I told you that a long time ago. That was
Speaker 1: the book on him home at four thirty. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: phone off, you're not reachable. Now. I don't know if that.
Speaker 1: I can't verify that one under percent, but I've been
Speaker 1: told by that by a couple of different people. So
Speaker 1: you know, when you're the head coach of the team,
Speaker 1: you got and and and look he did get there
Speaker 1: like the four o'clock, three o'clock in the morning from
Speaker 1: what I understand, So it wasn't like he wasn't working.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that, but you gotta be
Speaker 1: available around the clock when you're the head coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Bebel kind of didn't Bevil kind of
Speaker 1: make like a joke about it. Almost. It was almost
Speaker 1: like he was flippantly saying that when he said it.
Speaker 1: I just got the sense from watching the stuff I
Speaker 1: watched the coaches, yo color, they feel like they're liberate.
Speaker 1: A Hey, we're free now let's go. Well so, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's what I don't know about that. Pyeah and Pete,
Speaker 1: I think that's a misnown. You're not free still. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: three games, you have three games agoing pree, but free
Speaker 1: of free of that mentality and that well maybe the
Speaker 1: free of that mentality in the direct supervision of urban
Speaker 1: myrin what that brought. But here's the reality. Every one
Speaker 1: of this building is gonna be judged in in in
Speaker 1: three weeks from now, and they're gonna be evaluated based
Speaker 1: on their job. And and my guess is, and again
Speaker 1: this is me tony and not speaking for the organization,
Speaker 1: but if I was a betting man, that's not the
Speaker 1: last change. It's that's gonna be made, just my guess.
Speaker 1: So I would imagine, and this is something JP We're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna have to address this. What what's the
Speaker 1: next step in finding the next head coach. I mean,
Speaker 1: what is the next step, Because you've got a window
Speaker 1: now where you can start interviewing guys earlier than you've
Speaker 1: ever been able to do. The next next week, that's
Speaker 1: part of the next week. That's that's why it's good
Speaker 1: to get the process going. If you're gonna do it,
Speaker 1: not wait. So I'm I'm all for what they did.
Speaker 1: You know that I would have done it a long
Speaker 1: time ago. I thought I thought the team was unorganized.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he looked like he cared. I thought
Speaker 1: that the players were pushing back on him way back
Speaker 1: in training camp, which is never Look, that's no reason
Speaker 1: to get rid of a guy. Yeah, the incident when
Speaker 1: not flying back with your team, which is of all
Speaker 1: the things he did. Look the incident with the girl
Speaker 1: at the bar, that's between him and his family. It's
Speaker 1: a stupid look. But not flying back with your team,
Speaker 1: from a football standpoint, is one of the worst things
Speaker 1: I've seen in this league in a long time. The
Speaker 1: worst you go down, your team loses. That's a tough loss.
Speaker 1: Go home with him. If you want to go back
Speaker 1: to Ohio, get on your private plane and go. You
Speaker 1: don't you go home with your team and and the
Speaker 1: whole body of work he had to go. He was
Speaker 1: a bad coach. He didn't know what was going on
Speaker 1: with his team. They made the right decision, get him
Speaker 1: the hell out, move forward to get a new coach. Well,
Speaker 1: we know how Pete feels. Yeah, he just laid it
Speaker 1: out there again. Let's come back. We'll get into the
Speaker 1: quarterback Trevor Lawrence. A lot to talk about there, A
Speaker 1: lot to discuss there, because that's really priority number one,
Speaker 1: I think for the future, one and two and three primary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a whole handful of priorities for this team, moving ahead
Speaker 1: plenty ahead of course. In the second hour your social questions,
Speaker 1: Twitter is a buzz as you would imagine, Tony, I
Speaker 1: know you love it. No you don't. Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: He shook his head. No, No, I was shaking my
Speaker 1: head into excitement. Can't wait? Is that what it is? Well,
Speaker 1: we're off and running either way. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Jaguar is happy. I was fucked.
Speaker 1: You buy dream Finders home homes that fit your lifestyle
Speaker 1: and by that just help changing, help cham for good. Definitely, frustrating.
Speaker 1: All the guys are frustrating. We wanna we want to
Speaker 1: be more consistent, We want to we want to win. Um,
Speaker 1: So it's definitely frustrating. But like I said, we're the
Speaker 1: ones I controlled that. You know, we gotta go make
Speaker 1: the play. I gotta I gotta make those throws, um
Speaker 1: the other plays, Gotta gotta make catchers, we gotta. We
Speaker 1: all have our part, you know, and um, there's no
Speaker 1: way around that. Like, we all have to. We all
Speaker 1: have to play better. So that's the thing. He's gonna
Speaker 1: look yourself into the air and can figure out how
Speaker 1: to get better. And I think we'll do that, but
Speaker 1: you gotta really do it this week. That's Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: of course, after the game yesterday and Jaguar is lost
Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans. Six consecutive losses for the Jags. Now,
Speaker 1: j P Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco, I'm Jaguars happy,
Speaker 1: are glad you're along with us today? We recapping the
Speaker 1: game yesterday day offensively well more. James Robinson, Okay, we
Speaker 1: cut to the child. Let me cut to the chase here,
Speaker 1: am I right? In the statistic Trevor has one touchdown
Speaker 1: in the last six games, seven games, Like that's all.
Speaker 1: That's the story. That's the whole story, start, finished, middle, foreshadowing, climax, conclusion.
Speaker 1: It's like whatever, it's like, that is the entirety of
Speaker 1: the story. Like, you have to have more production in
Speaker 1: today's NFL. Like it's beyond me to think that we've
Speaker 1: thrown one touchdown pass one in seven games? What about
Speaker 1: nine on the year? Okay, that that will go. But Pete,
Speaker 1: at least in the first um, so we played twelve games,
Speaker 1: now thirteen games. Now, at least in the first six week,
Speaker 1: threw eight fourteen games two and twelve, record two and twelve,
Speaker 1: thank you too, and twelve. So in the at least
Speaker 1: in the first seven we through eight one in the
Speaker 1: last seven. That's like unreal. He's numbers about his average
Speaker 1: is about as good as your blocked average. Because you
Speaker 1: locked last week. By the way, we haven't given you
Speaker 1: crap for that. You know, I was forced into the lock.
Speaker 1: Let's be clear. I did not as a forced lock.
Speaker 1: I mean the lock is voluntary. I just started locking.
Speaker 1: The other team's winning. I'm gonna lock the Jets winning
Speaker 1: this week. JP's got a lock. JP has got a
Speaker 1: lock this week. Yeah, I gotta locked the next two weeks.
Speaker 1: They gotta win the next two to sweep the a
Speaker 1: f C. East. It's not gonna I called that after
Speaker 1: the Bills win. That was, in hindsight, not the best lock.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna go. They're not winning again. Okay, they're
Speaker 1: not winning again again not winning so too. We're at
Speaker 1: two in the pool before the season, you're the winner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but before to our numbers go back to the issue
Speaker 1: of one touchdown in seven games, like, how does it happened?
Speaker 1: Like that is like completely being inept Davis. Davis snails
Speaker 1: through two touchdowns last yesterday against US too well. He
Speaker 1: would have had Trevor through And I told JP this
Speaker 1: before you came on. The throw to Marvin Jones is
Speaker 1: a touchdown. His mechanics were awful. Is his body was
Speaker 1: pointing one way and he threw with his arm the
Speaker 1: other way. And that's where he's missing. I know he
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones is open. I realized that I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming the receivers right now, I'm actually putting
Speaker 1: it right on the laughing No, that's my point. But
Speaker 1: I'm blaming the quarterback on that what has happened Pete
Speaker 1: to where we are throwing one touchdowns in seven games
Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrences or quarterback like something's not right, Like
Speaker 1: that needs to be that's when we actually aren't scoring
Speaker 1: a lot of touchdowns either, Are they get that beauty.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go. I just want to focus right
Speaker 1: now on the quarterback in the throwing in the lack
Speaker 1: of production and lack of like any thing, and so
Speaker 1: like the longest touchdown past of the year, I don't
Speaker 1: know and I don't care right now. I care that
Speaker 1: there's only been one in the last seven games, and
Speaker 1: the focus like there needs to be to steal our
Speaker 1: past coaches vernacular, a deep dive on what is going
Speaker 1: on with Trevor Lawrence and why where are we missing it?
Speaker 1: Is it the offense? Is it the coaching? Is it
Speaker 1: the mechanics? Is it all of the above? Because I
Speaker 1: just refused to believe that the kid can't play quarterback.
Speaker 1: I've seen too much, saw too much in camp, saw
Speaker 1: too much early in this season. Like he's not he's
Speaker 1: not going in the right direction, and that needs to
Speaker 1: be the focus of this entire organization from now until
Speaker 1: next season we kick off getting the right leadership to
Speaker 1: make sure that kid is is like maximizing his potential.
Speaker 1: By the way, to answer your question, Pete, the longest
Speaker 1: touchdown past of the year for him is forty one
Speaker 1: yards back in Week one at Houston. His longest past
Speaker 1: play of the year is fifty yards against Tennessee on
Speaker 1: October tenth. It's a long time ago too. Those I
Speaker 1: don't remember those throws. Are they down? The throw? They not?
Speaker 1: One of them was a screen right, no idea, But
Speaker 1: you know what I do. You see what I'm Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it has he has to be the focal point Tony,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Whatever they do going forward the rest
Speaker 1: of the season, who they hire, it has to be
Speaker 1: about him. He has regressed. His mechanics have waned. You
Speaker 1: can see it on tape. He is in that opening drive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the opening drive. They looked like they were going down
Speaker 1: the field bing bing bing bing bing. They look good
Speaker 1: at that drive. Then it was the end of it
Speaker 1: and went away. He is right now. The play where
Speaker 1: he had Odiot or Shaughnessy on the sideline was playing designed.
Speaker 1: They faked the bubble screen and they wrut him up
Speaker 1: the sideline. So what do they do now? They go
Speaker 1: back and run the bubble screen about fourteen more times
Speaker 1: the rest of I mean, look, I can criticize the
Speaker 1: offense all you want. I just you know how I
Speaker 1: feel about that. But he is regressing because the design
Speaker 1: of offense, because receivers don't win, because he's getting hit,
Speaker 1: and because he just hasn't improved. He's not And that's
Speaker 1: the most discerning thing. Would you agree, He's just not
Speaker 1: accurate right now? His mechanics Tonty, Yeah, yeah. If you
Speaker 1: watch the throw, I saw it times step into it,
Speaker 1: step into it. It's a touchdown. His body's going one way,
Speaker 1: his arms going the other. It's a terrible mechanics are terrible.
Speaker 1: By the way, that Week one touchdown was a past
Speaker 1: deep left to DJ chart. I remember that against Houston,
Speaker 1: far corner of the end zone, away from where the
Speaker 1: booth is going right to left. That's correct, back right
Speaker 1: corner of the end zone, that's correct. And then he
Speaker 1: threw another touchdown past the man hurts in that game,
Speaker 1: didn't he yeh. He had three in that game, so
Speaker 1: he has nine for the year. So he was on
Speaker 1: he was on pace for fifty something. He had five
Speaker 1: in the first three weeks of the season and then four.
Speaker 1: That's a problem, Yeah, big problem. And he's part of
Speaker 1: the problem. You know, I didn't I like when I
Speaker 1: say that's a problem. He's part of including that problem.
Speaker 1: Are you worried about him? Yes, I'm worried about everything.
Speaker 1: I'm worried, Pete. How can you not be worried about
Speaker 1: him not being that guy? Pete, we're one in fifteen
Speaker 1: last year, we're two and twelve right now. That means
Speaker 1: we're three And that's not what I'm asking You know,
Speaker 1: you're missing my point. I'm worried about everything. Are you
Speaker 1: worried he's not the guy? No, I still think he's
Speaker 1: the guy. I do too, But I'm worried about everything.
Speaker 1: But I think he's the guy. I'm betting on him.
Speaker 1: But again, everything else you can worry about. If he
Speaker 1: ain't the guy, that's another five six years in garbage. Pete,
Speaker 1: let's not talking about that right now. By the way,
Speaker 1: that fifty eight yard passed the longest of the season
Speaker 1: for him, was against Tennessee Um and it was a
Speaker 1: past deep left to Leaviscu should already ran out of bounds.
Speaker 1: Fifty eight yards in that game october T was that
Speaker 1: the underneath crosser that he random a deep left is
Speaker 1: what it says, deep left? I don't remember remember that
Speaker 1: either de Leviscus should all would be an aberration. So
Speaker 1: maybe it was that ran all the way across the field.
Speaker 1: That's not deep deep. I'm just doing what the official
Speaker 1: book says. Yeah, I just don't mean, come on, Pete,
Speaker 1: don't get on JP. It's fault. He's just reading. I
Speaker 1: know he's reading. I'm not getting on JPM saying whoever
Speaker 1: put that stat down in there? They're described the play
Speaker 1: was wrong, wasn't deep left? Peter? Are you concerned about Trevor? No? No,
Speaker 1: I mean he could put anybody in this system right
Speaker 1: now and with that pool of receivers in that offensive line,
Speaker 1: and he's not going to succeed. No, I'm not. I
Speaker 1: have to start with. What I'm concerned with, though, is
Speaker 1: the fact that through the processes mechanics have waned and
Speaker 1: his accuracy is worse, and he's not getting through his
Speaker 1: progressions as fast even as he did early in the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's going backwards, that's what you're saying. He's going the
Speaker 1: wrong direct and he took and I think he's taken
Speaker 1: easy throws rather than letting one fit in there and
Speaker 1: take it. Like for example, and you see, if you
Speaker 1: remember this play, he took one in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field I think Dey shaughnessy on third down. It
Speaker 1: was third and whatever, and he got to three yards
Speaker 1: short of the first down in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: He had and I can't remember who it was on
Speaker 1: the deep cross and he all he had to do
Speaker 1: was fit it in there. And it's a twenty yards
Speaker 1: shot down the middle of the field. He didn't take it.
Speaker 1: He took the easier throw. And I'm seeing more and
Speaker 1: more of that which is concerned. Well, everything that you're saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I do, But there are things that stood
Speaker 1: out stood after me the last few weeks. Is his uh,
Speaker 1: jumping this in the pocket a little bit. Like the
Speaker 1: protection has not been great, let's be clear, but it's
Speaker 1: been when it's good. Sometimes he's still moving around, going
Speaker 1: into trouble instead of just being calm and sitting there
Speaker 1: and taking a you know, hitch up, step up and
Speaker 1: letting the fly. And so there's just a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff that makes you concerned. But I'm still a believer.
Speaker 1: I'm still doubling down. I'll double down right now on him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an example on something. On something
Speaker 1: you watched New England play the other night against the Colts,
Speaker 1: Dick Colts didn't sniff mac Jones every single time he
Speaker 1: went back to throw. He had to clean one of
Speaker 1: the cleanest because the Colts aren't a great pass word
Speaker 1: his team anyways, But his pockets were amaze, he sing
Speaker 1: in that game. I mean, a few teams have pockets
Speaker 1: like that, but Trevor Lawrence has a pocket like that.
Speaker 1: He's gonna hit somebody. He's gonna if you give give
Speaker 1: him the Hunter Henry and John hu Smith and the
Speaker 1: creativity of Josh McDaniels and that offensive line. With that pocket,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence will look outstanding. Pete, you know the storyline
Speaker 1: the next two weeks is gonna be the quarterback matchups
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson Mac Jones versus Trevor Lawrence fair or not
Speaker 1: this well and and Zack Wilson is another one that
Speaker 1: hasn't looked good in large part because of who's around him.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about think about the situations. Two situations
Speaker 1: matter for young quarterback if you took Mac Jones, who's
Speaker 1: a Jacksonville kid, put him with the Jaguars, and put
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence with the Patriots, Trevor Larns will be every
Speaker 1: bit is good, if not better than Mac Jones, and
Speaker 1: Mac Jones will be struggling like Trevor Lawrence. That's the
Speaker 1: reality of it. Let's take a time out, we'll come
Speaker 1: back a little defensive talk. We'll come back around with
Speaker 1: the quarterback Tony all right, we might need to keep
Speaker 1: the camera on for a live looking during the time
Speaker 1: to plating ahead of course, we'll take a look at
Speaker 1: the draft order that has changed in our weekly draft
Speaker 1: segments since the Jaguars has been eliminated. Of course, the
Speaker 1: second hour, your social questions and much more Jaguars Happy
Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. The main thing we
Speaker 1: try to focus only just hasn't I think that's one
Speaker 1: of the most important. Uh who as you need as
Speaker 1: a DV to you know, have good eye mixture, your
Speaker 1: eyes on the season just in case he does a
Speaker 1: double move where act lexis tucking and take off. So
Speaker 1: that's the main thing he preached was, uh, have a
Speaker 1: good eyes and don't let the ball uh, get over
Speaker 1: our heads. It's Tyson Campbell, rookie cornerback and welcome back
Speaker 1: at Saguar's Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon, J P.
Speaker 1: Shadrick with Pete Priscoe and Tony Boselli recapping a Jags
Speaker 1: loss to the Houston Texans thirty to sixteen. The final
Speaker 1: score the Texans are three and eleven, two of those
Speaker 1: wins against the Jags. Jags are two and twelve. And
Speaker 1: we'll get to the draft order coming up. You probably
Speaker 1: know what it is by now. In the two teams
Speaker 1: we've beaten have winning records. That's right, an FC East
Speaker 1: opponents Dolphins and Bills. Because the Dolphins won again, correct
Speaker 1: they did? They rallied. They don't have a winning record though,
Speaker 1: what are they seven and seven? Yeah? They're right there? Okay,
Speaker 1: so every I mean my point is the two days
Speaker 1: sweet beat or five and have a winning record. You
Speaker 1: think you think what about the Bills? What about the Dolphins?
Speaker 1: What do you think the Dolphins and the Bills are
Speaker 1: thinking right now? After look watching us lose to the
Speaker 1: Texans with eleven guys on the COVID list, seven starters out,
Speaker 1: I mean, what are they thinking that? Like what how
Speaker 1: did we? What? What? What? What happened? Hello? How did
Speaker 1: this happen? Particularly the Bills six? I mean the jag
Speaker 1: scored to combined thirty two points in those games. Three
Speaker 1: was the high watermark against Miami. You understand, twenty three
Speaker 1: the high watermark for the yeason? Yes, I understand. And
Speaker 1: you had to kick to fifty yarders from from Oxford,
Speaker 1: England to win the game. So are we the low
Speaker 1: do we have the we have to have the we
Speaker 1: have to be the lowest scoring offense in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Now after that last week because the the Texans outscored
Speaker 1: put dirty on the board. I know the Texans were,
Speaker 1: we were point two points more. It was thirteen eight
Speaker 1: six eight to fourteen. We went up though, Yeah we
Speaker 1: did because we scored sixteen. Yeah, so we're that's how
Speaker 1: we were. We over achieved. It's it's it's really um
Speaker 1: who what's that? Feet? I mean they lost the Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Buffalo has doubled the scoring after Jack Buffalo lost to them.
Speaker 1: Defense had an epic day. That's why, Well let's talk
Speaker 1: about the defense, because overall this defense has done a
Speaker 1: good job this year. I mean even yesterday, I mean
Speaker 1: the Texas stink one was a kick return the last
Speaker 1: at the end of bubble screen. I mean it's like
Speaker 1: it's so I mean, you don't want that to happen,
Speaker 1: But the reality is they held him under three ye yards.
Speaker 1: They gotta turn over. I mean, like like the defense,
Speaker 1: I give Joe Coleen credit. It will be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what happens with whoever the new coach in because
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna clean house on the offensive side,
Speaker 1: Like I think that's like that's my I don't I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything, but my guess is when you
Speaker 1: have the worst offense in the history of the franchise
Speaker 1: and one of the worst in the history of the NFL,
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna clean house. It'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: what they might clean house on the defensive side too.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he won't be he might, but I
Speaker 1: would argue Joe Cohen has done a good job with this,
Speaker 1: So if you have a good defensive corner, why would
Speaker 1: you rid of him? And by the way, the guy
Speaker 1: that he was speaking speaking at the podium before when
Speaker 1: we played the sound, he's gotten ten times better. He's
Speaker 1: gotten better, He's improved. The season is going most Improved
Speaker 1: Player of the Year and he's gonna be good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can tell he's going to be good. So that's
Speaker 1: a big hit for them. That well, we'll give him
Speaker 1: credit for that. That's I mean, that's the big hit
Speaker 1: so far. He right now, he's the best rookie. That's
Speaker 1: a bad thing though. That is a bad things, but
Speaker 1: one of two that have played first. That's another bad
Speaker 1: Walker little play Walker little plate on Sunday he did yesterday.
Speaker 1: That's right. It was better what happened to Cam Robinson
Speaker 1: by the way the neck strained neck day to day.
Speaker 1: But aren't we all so what do you think of
Speaker 1: Walker little? Before we get to the defense, I don't
Speaker 1: want to he was better. He still doesn't take great
Speaker 1: angles on his sets, still doesn't use his hands like
Speaker 1: he like lets him get into the body too much.
Speaker 1: He got off balance on the one play where the
Speaker 1: guy went around him. It looked like they am I
Speaker 1: wrong about that where you like he let him get
Speaker 1: into him and then he kind of fell and he
Speaker 1: went around because he took a terrible set. He like
Speaker 1: opened up the gate, didn't get it. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was just terrible, the whole thing. But he was better.
Speaker 1: You can see he's improving. He's working at it like
Speaker 1: he's a big strong dude. Um, I might, I'm if Cam,
Speaker 1: I mean, if Cam's healthy, I might start walking a
Speaker 1: little right tackle. You said that going into the game today,
Speaker 1: find out what he can do. How about this putting
Speaker 1: the guard he's a big old sucker. Well, yeah, because
Speaker 1: the left guarden very good. Well, I don't think he's
Speaker 1: got me back. And he's he talked about a guy
Speaker 1: who looks like he went off the career cliff. He's
Speaker 1: not playing as well. Speaking of young uns, how did
Speaker 1: Cisco play yesterday? Of the snaps on defense? Getting eyes,
Speaker 1: open field, tack and nothing stood out to me? Like
Speaker 1: there was nothing remarkable, nothing bad though either, like I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to. Just if you're playing on the back end,
Speaker 1: that's good. If it's nothing bad, that's I agree. But
Speaker 1: I want to go back and watch him, like specifically,
Speaker 1: because I didn't watch specifically him everybody, Um, I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to. While I mean, the thing that stood out
Speaker 1: to me watching our defense is where's Josh Allen? Like
Speaker 1: what happened? Like, where do you go? Josh Allen? Not
Speaker 1: start the game? He did not? Why? I don't know
Speaker 1: I wasn't told it was Smoot and Chase on were
Speaker 1: the starters. That's what I saw when I'm watching the tape.
Speaker 1: I started watching the tape and I saw that, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, he wasn't in on the first two plays
Speaker 1: of the game. I don't remember how many plays. I
Speaker 1: know it was the first one for sure, that's all
Speaker 1: I know. But where's he gone? And I said, I
Speaker 1: said this this morning, Pe, Why did he I don't know?
Speaker 1: Why did he start? I don't know, Pete, I wasn't
Speaker 1: you know you're in the press. Why don't you guys
Speaker 1: ask the coaches those questions because I'm not there. I
Speaker 1: don't cover that team on a daily j P. Why
Speaker 1: did you ask the question? Why did he start? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Today was a virtual press. You could have
Speaker 1: you could ask a question that's embarrassing, JP. You could
Speaker 1: have also, I'm not I have a different role. I'm
Speaker 1: not an interviewer. I'm not a press conference guy. I'm
Speaker 1: a commentator. I will say I will say this, Josh buddy,
Speaker 1: maybe one of my buddies in the Jacksonal media'll text
Speaker 1: me right now and they know the answer to that.
Speaker 1: Why why didn't he start? So, but here's the thing
Speaker 1: I said, this is morning, Peter want your action, because
Speaker 1: the question this morning on Dan Jeff Show is like,
Speaker 1: where is Josh Allen? Like where did he go? Like
Speaker 1: he's not been productively And my comment was, I think
Speaker 1: where I've landed with Josh Allen. Josh Allen's a nice player.
Speaker 1: He's a good player, like you like he's a positive
Speaker 1: impact on your team. But he's not a difference maker.
Speaker 1: He's not a guy who's gonna take over the game
Speaker 1: and reek just wreck Havoca. No. No, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: take over the game and dominate. No, Miles Garrett, No,
Speaker 1: he's not that. He's just a nice player. I will
Speaker 1: say this about Josh Allen. He has been on the
Speaker 1: injury report for a number of weeks with a shoulder.
Speaker 1: Just say everyone's hurt, JP. I'm just saying everyone. He
Speaker 1: was credited with four hurries though I think if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, which I don't remember, I gotta I haven't
Speaker 1: watched it defensive tape except for the first couple of plays.
Speaker 1: But I watched I did not see. I watched the
Speaker 1: tape today. I didn't see anything like nothing Like I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he played bad. I'm talking difference maker. I'm
Speaker 1: talking a guy like when you turn on the tape
Speaker 1: and you play offensive line this league, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what, I gotta block that dude. Like you're
Speaker 1: watching tape into the wee hours of the night to
Speaker 1: try to figure out to block that guy. Like I
Speaker 1: remember nine people when we played Buffalo and Bruce Smith
Speaker 1: was defensive Player of the Year. I watched every game
Speaker 1: like grinding, trying to figure out I'm gonna block this
Speaker 1: guy because he was dominant. That's not Josh Allen. That's
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett, that's Nick Bosa, that's t J Watt, like
Speaker 1: those guys Joey Bosa, Chandler Joe, like these guys like
Speaker 1: you like watch tape, but you're grinding, like, okay, what
Speaker 1: I need to figure out? Like what does he do?
Speaker 1: That's not Josh Allen right now, I'm just sorry, what
Speaker 1: does he have five and half sacks? That that's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a good I want him on my team. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to kick him. Well, don't worry. They got
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. They can get another defensive end.
Speaker 1: But be am I wrong with that? I mean, he's
Speaker 1: not a difference. No, he's not. There's here's why. There
Speaker 1: are certain guys that play hard and play tough and
Speaker 1: they'll get you eight or nine sacks a year. Then
Speaker 1: there are guys that are special that play hard and
Speaker 1: play tough and have the physical explosive ability in the
Speaker 1: hands and everything else to get themselves fifteen sacks. Josh
Speaker 1: Allen is more of the first group. He might get
Speaker 1: the nine ten eleven sacks from playing hard, playing tough play.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna explosively blow by people on a continual basis.
Speaker 1: And that's the difference. Like, if he's the second end
Speaker 1: opposite Myles Garrett, he'd be really a good player. If
Speaker 1: he was the second end opposite Nick Bosa, he'd be
Speaker 1: a really dynamic But is he Is he like Crosby
Speaker 1: at the Raiders, He's I mean Crosby's like, that's a
Speaker 1: dude that plays hard and disrupts football games, right see that.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, was he better than way?
Speaker 1: I think they're like, they're good hard players and that
Speaker 1: you want your team. I don't think they're gonna take
Speaker 1: over games. And I'd argue that Yannique takes over games
Speaker 1: more because he creates fumbles. Yannique is a better pass
Speaker 1: rusher and worst run player. Josh Allen is a better
Speaker 1: run player and the worst pass rush right, But like
Speaker 1: you look at like Max Crosby, Like there's a name
Speaker 1: I'm like everyone says when you're talking about Miles Garrett,
Speaker 1: like the top end guys. Okay, Max Crosby or what's
Speaker 1: the crist what's his first names of? Max? Yeah? Max? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Max Crosby defensive end for the Raiders. The dude just
Speaker 1: takes over games, like he disrupts. He beats people up.
Speaker 1: He's hitting the cornerback like you know where he is
Speaker 1: when you sign up, Like when you get on the
Speaker 1: film and you watch you like, um, okay, see whatever
Speaker 1: number he is, number he is, Like we gotta block him,
Speaker 1: like watch him, he's good. I gotta lock him, Like
Speaker 1: I don't see that in Josh. And that's why I
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be this year. All Right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're up against it. Peter's let's take a quick
Speaker 1: time out. We'll come back, we'll continue this conversation. Of course,
Speaker 1: we'll get back to the offense. We'll get back to
Speaker 1: the aftermath of the Urban Meyer. Let's go back, back
Speaker 1: and forth, back and forth. That's what we do all
Speaker 1: over the place. We're back in a moment. Veterans choose
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Speaker 1: v A dot gov. And it's Jaguars Happy Hour presented
Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. What
Speaker 1: are we doing? Pumpkin spice. Pumpkin spice, that's what I smell.
Speaker 1: It's very good. This is the I had so far
Speaker 1: for Elliot. Huh, how's that diet been going well? I
Speaker 1: didn't in all honestly, p JP, this is the first
Speaker 1: thing I've eaten all day today. No breakfast, no lunch, nothing.
Speaker 1: You're withering away. I can't imagine that being true. I'll
Speaker 1: give you my word. Nothing. You're you're you're lying like
Speaker 1: you from that building, Pete, Why would I like? Listen,
Speaker 1: I had crackers and freedoms. It's not like I'm saying
Speaker 1: I'm eating celery and broccoli. I'm eating Freedo's crackers. If
Speaker 1: anybody would be hungry, the definition would be him. But
Speaker 1: whatever reason I got wasn't that angry? Was he because
Speaker 1: I got busy? I got busy, pet Next thing, We've
Speaker 1: seen him angry, but this was not that Ryan. Eaton.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try it. I'm gonna try not to eat
Speaker 1: and see if I can just lose weight. If you're
Speaker 1: bitten fasting, if you don't eat till later in the day.
Speaker 1: By the way, there, that's what I did. They're like
Speaker 1: intermediate fast, just eat when you're hungry, your intermediate fast,
Speaker 1: intermediate intermediate intermediate fasting. Tony. Tony is gonna have the
Speaker 1: intermediate fasting diet where he eats every fifteen minute. Oh hey,
Speaker 1: you know we promised when the Jaguars are eliminated from
Speaker 1: playoff contention that we would have a draft segment, and
Speaker 1: here it is. Tonight. The Jaguars are now number one
Speaker 1: and the two draft order. The Detroit Lions knocked off
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals to get their second win of the season.
Speaker 1: They are too eleven and one. The Jaguars are now
Speaker 1: two and twelve and they have the inside track to
Speaker 1: the number one pick in the NFL Draft. PA, you
Speaker 1: know that I was watching it all play out in
Speaker 1: front of me yesterday in our green room, and I
Speaker 1: turned to one of my guys and I go, this
Speaker 1: is where I'm different. Than like a guy like Tony
Speaker 1: Masselli tomorrow when I do the show, because I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here thinking, it's actually not a bad thing that they
Speaker 1: lost on day and the Lions one, because now you
Speaker 1: have the number one overall pick again just shaking his head. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll actually see this, Pete. If you're gonna be bad
Speaker 1: and this bad, just stay like, be the worst, because
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the first overall picked in the second,
Speaker 1: third or fourth. That way, I can't pick anyone I want.
Speaker 1: So it's a good thing that they lost on Sunday. Well,
Speaker 1: it depends. It depends where you're sitting. If you're a player, no,
Speaker 1: it's not good. If your coach is not good. I'm
Speaker 1: at the point now. It also depends on who they're picking.
Speaker 1: Who's doing the picking. I don't know who it is,
Speaker 1: do you? No? I don't either, But and we gotta
Speaker 1: get it. We're gonna get into some of that futures
Speaker 1: talking a second. But as far as the draft, who
Speaker 1: give if I'm gonna try and move it and get
Speaker 1: more picks. Let's say you can't move. You can't move
Speaker 1: it who you're picking. You're stuck with the number one pick? Ah,
Speaker 1: who you pick it. That's for me. It's tough. And
Speaker 1: here's why I think I'm taking Hutchinson. But I worry
Speaker 1: about Hutchinson versus the kid in Oregon because the kid
Speaker 1: in Oregon has so much more athletic ability and and
Speaker 1: bigger I think, or not as big, And he says
Speaker 1: about the same size I think, But Hutchinson he's not
Speaker 1: as tall. But Hutchinson has all the moves and all
Speaker 1: the technique and everything else where. He dominates college lineman.
Speaker 1: But Tony, you would know this better than me. If
Speaker 1: you have an athletic freak versus a guy with all
Speaker 1: the tricks that knows how to use them, who would
Speaker 1: you rather block? Well, an athletic freak who doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to rush. It's the easy guy to block, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, Like he just goes up the field. But
Speaker 1: what about an athletic freak who knows how to rush
Speaker 1: but he doesn't that's a problem. That's a really good plan.
Speaker 1: But I've heard Hutchinson's is a really good athlete, like
Speaker 1: he runs four six, great vertical. I heard the kids
Speaker 1: a great athlete. Here's my concern with Hutchinson a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I've watched some of this tape. I love him,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. Where was he I think he
Speaker 1: got hurt in COVID. He got hurt when he had
Speaker 1: COVID last year, he had two years ago. But what
Speaker 1: he did play, he wasn't as dominant and that always
Speaker 1: worries me a little bit. We have reached the conclusion
Speaker 1: of our number one plenty more ahead hour two of
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour coming up, presented by Jet Home Loans
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. That's really not my focus
Speaker 1: right now. Right now, I know it's that, you know,
Speaker 1: coachs our head coach and everything else is still intact,
Speaker 1: and that's what we're That's what we'll focus on moving
Speaker 1: forward and just trying to get better. You know, I
Speaker 1: thought we um removed the ball out better on offense
Speaker 1: today it's the seven Night direction. But we just gotta
Speaker 1: make plays down the street, you know, and when we
Speaker 1: need him. Third fourth quarter, UM, I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: make the throws. Guys that made the catches, it's all
Speaker 1: of us, you know. We gotta make more plays. I
Speaker 1: missed a big throw on third down, UM, eight minutes
Speaker 1: left in the fourth quarter, so um, but I mean
Speaker 1: it was. It was nice to see us moving the
Speaker 1: ball again like we like we were earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: so when that was a step in the night direction,
Speaker 1: but we just gotta we gotta finish. That's Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: of course after the game yesterday, and welcome back. It's
Speaker 1: the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon,
Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco recapping Jaguars lost
Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans, the first game since the departure
Speaker 1: of head coach Urban Meyer. He was fired late Wednesday
Speaker 1: night Thursday morning, a little after twelve thirty am, and
Speaker 1: the aftermath of that and the remaining days of the
Speaker 1: week led into this game. That's now the sixth consecutive
Speaker 1: loss for the Jaguars, and they've now lost eight in
Speaker 1: a row against the Houston Texans and they were swept
Speaker 1: this year again by the Texans team. This Texans team,
Speaker 1: of all teams, it's a totally different team from Week
Speaker 1: one as well, and they still put thirty on the
Speaker 1: board against the Jags yesterday. Defensive starters were down with
Speaker 1: COVID yesterday for Houston. Special teams struggles for the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: to say the least, the offense was better relative to
Speaker 1: really bad, and the defense had some moments battle around
Speaker 1: right now for the Jags though three games to go. Though,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have the inside track to the number one
Speaker 1: overall pick in the two NFL draft up next a
Speaker 1: quarterback battle the top two from the draft going head
Speaker 1: to head next week and Met Life Stadium Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: and the two and twelve Jags Zack Wilson in the
Speaker 1: three and eleven New York Jets Christmas in Jersey? Are
Speaker 1: you done talking it? Yes? That was a long and
Speaker 1: I mean I got really was doing the show? Holy cow, JP, breath,
Speaker 1: It's not the JP show we talk were we talking about? Like?
Speaker 1: You know, you can talk anything else you want to read,
Speaker 1: I'll just you know, sit back and kick back and relax.
Speaker 1: I literally like I was reading Twitter, Pete, and I
Speaker 1: forgot that I was on the show because I'm like,
Speaker 1: JP is just reading for ten minutes. You're hearing what
Speaker 1: were you hearing? I heard my bad, bad, bad bad Charlie.
Speaker 1: We're kidding, JP. I don't know, I'm not I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: I literally checked out. Actually I thought I was like
Speaker 1: another world and you know what what show is this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Just kick back, you guys, go for it. I don't worry.
Speaker 1: JP will do it all right, shut off his mike.
Speaker 1: It's cool, man. The missues here. I'm on the desk.
Speaker 1: Does Shot con need an advisor to help him in
Speaker 1: the coaching search? The shot Khan need an advisor? Um?
Speaker 1: I think we all need advisors JP, I mean not
Speaker 1: jppte and JP. UM from the standpoint, I think we
Speaker 1: need individuals that we trust, that we can bounce things
Speaker 1: off of and help us through the process. And so
Speaker 1: if that and um, yeah, so I guess the short
Speaker 1: answers yes. And I think if I was in shot shoes,
Speaker 1: I'd evaluate how I got to this point and do
Speaker 1: it just do it different. And I'm half joking there,
Speaker 1: how many different ways has he done it already? Though?
Speaker 1: I think about that? Well, not half joke, you're not
Speaker 1: half joking. Well, well, here's the thing. Has he done
Speaker 1: it different? He's hired different people, different types, but he's
Speaker 1: been at the centerpiece of making the final call. And
Speaker 1: and now, in fairness, the shot I don't know his process.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone really knows the process of
Speaker 1: and maybe he is listening to people. So this is
Speaker 1: me takes taking some liberties um based on what I know,
Speaker 1: which is not a complete picture, to be clear. So
Speaker 1: he might be. But my perception is, my perception is
Speaker 1: Pete is that he gets people, he interviews them, and
Speaker 1: then he makes the choice. Right, I mean that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's all we know, at least, I mean JB didn't
Speaker 1: do anything else. That's all I know. Well, let's take
Speaker 1: their Urban Meyer hiring. Okay, there was a little bit
Speaker 1: of an infatuation there. They clearly at one point last
Speaker 1: year decided he was going to be the guy, probably
Speaker 1: earlier than a probably earlier than any of us realized.
Speaker 1: It was during the season, they knew and what led
Speaker 1: him to that. Now I've heard that Trent actually was
Speaker 1: all in favor of it, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's true or not. But I and I don't where
Speaker 1: their their connection comes from. So he leaned on Trent
Speaker 1: for that advice. And then once you hear an interview,
Speaker 1: and Urban's track record obviously stood on its own. It's
Speaker 1: not like you need to get convinced of it. Once
Speaker 1: you sit down with him, if you like it, you
Speaker 1: probably hire him. Yeah, but that's where I disagree. Pe
Speaker 1: I hear, let me stop you there. And this is
Speaker 1: where I and I don't know if and he could
Speaker 1: have done this. I don't know if he did or not.
Speaker 1: But I know this. I had a bunch of people
Speaker 1: calling me unsolicited, by the by the way, once it
Speaker 1: got out that we were thinking about hiring Irban Meyer,
Speaker 1: saying that's not a good decision, like don't hire him.
Speaker 1: I mean, so I was getting that now unsolicited. I
Speaker 1: had nothing to do the process, and so I would think,
Speaker 1: and I don't know this, but if I'm shot, I
Speaker 1: am picking up the phone and calling people and diving
Speaker 1: in deep doing the deep dive We've heard that for
Speaker 1: a while, is really asking the questions. No different then,
Speaker 1: like as you, I'm like, when you he made the
Speaker 1: decision to go Trent Balky, is your GM? I mean,
Speaker 1: if it's me, my recommend is like I pick up
Speaker 1: the phone, I start dialing for dollars to figure out.
Speaker 1: I want to know everything about this. And so I
Speaker 1: guess my point of saying this moving forward. If I
Speaker 1: was him, I think like he maybe already has an advisor.
Speaker 1: I don't know how, I don't I don't know enough
Speaker 1: about the process to speak to that one way or another, Pete.
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, I would pick up that phone
Speaker 1: and I'd call and I do a lot of have
Speaker 1: a lot of phone call conversations with people who have
Speaker 1: nothing to gain by like whether no matter what they
Speaker 1: say about the person, Like I want to know the truth.
Speaker 1: Like like if I'm like perfect example, Pete, Like if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go call and like have questions about JP,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call people that know JP, that've worked with JP,
Speaker 1: been around JP, and don't get anything out of JP
Speaker 1: getting the job or not getting the job, Like I
Speaker 1: just want to know, Like tell me, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: about all about JP, all about JP. But you know
Speaker 1: what you mean, Tony. But but I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the other side of that. Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson came out yesterday I don't know if you saw
Speaker 1: it and defended Urban Meyer. He's friends with him. Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson is a respected football guy. If Shot Khan called
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, excuse me and said, Hey, I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: hier Irban Meyer, what do you think I want to
Speaker 1: talk to you? Go talk to him? He talks to him,
Speaker 1: he says, Oh, this guy's a great coach. He does this,
Speaker 1: this and this. Well there's a reference if he called Belichick,
Speaker 1: and I know they have utmost respect for Belichick Belichick
Speaker 1: at urban Meyer friendly, excuse me friendly, he'd give a
Speaker 1: good recommendation. So there's two recommendations. Great, I'm gonna how
Speaker 1: ABU gonna call the University of Florida and asked people
Speaker 1: who worked with him every day because guess what, Urban
Speaker 1: Meyer has never worked with Bill Belichick and has never
Speaker 1: worked with Jimmy Johnson, So that's fine. Guess what, they
Speaker 1: don't know Urban Johnson at all. Urban Meyer. They Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson like knew him from afar and like probably went
Speaker 1: to some dinners like awards ceremonies and hung out drink
Speaker 1: like they don't know him. Like, go call the people
Speaker 1: who worked with them, Go call the secretary, Like I'll
Speaker 1: never forget John Robinson, my coach at USC the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. He said, like he said something that's
Speaker 1: stuck into me forever. And he had like and I've
Speaker 1: said this story for he had like three rules, play hard,
Speaker 1: be on time. And the third rule was the thing
Speaker 1: that impacted me the most. He says, you better treat
Speaker 1: everybody in the building with respect, and you better treat
Speaker 1: the secretary in the same way you treat me, and
Speaker 1: you better seat the janitor the same way you treat me,
Speaker 1: because if you don't, that tells me who you are,
Speaker 1: and I don't want you on my team. I tell
Speaker 1: that stories. Go call the people that urban Meyer worked
Speaker 1: with every day, and what do they say about him.
Speaker 1: Not with Jimmy Johnson, and I like Jimmy Johnson and
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, great coach. They never have worked with him.
Speaker 1: They don't know. And I'll and I'll go one step
Speaker 1: further with the same kind of line of thinking about respect.
Speaker 1: The people in the building treat him with respect. Every
Speaker 1: personnel guy and scout I've ever talked to says when
Speaker 1: they go to a school, they don't want to get
Speaker 1: the information from what the coach will say because he's
Speaker 1: gonna pump the guy up. He wants him to get
Speaker 1: to the NFL. It helps him. They go talk to
Speaker 1: the strength coach, they go talk to the secretaries, counsel,
Speaker 1: talked to the support staff, they talked to uh, the
Speaker 1: cafeteria workers. That's where you find out all about the guy,
Speaker 1: and so Tony, you are spot on. They should have
Speaker 1: went to Florida, they should have went to Ohio State,
Speaker 1: they should have won a bunch of different places. Talk
Speaker 1: to agents people and how is he when you deal
Speaker 1: with them, and they would have found out what everybody
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville found out when he was inside the building.
Speaker 1: He makes people miserable. I mean, I'm just saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a handful of conversations that when
Speaker 1: this was all happening last year. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: part of the process, and people would call me. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: why are you calling me? I got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with this, But I mean, they give me your opinions.
Speaker 1: It wasn't always very flattering, which is fine. I mean,
Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with asking Jimmy Johnson or Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: But that's just one perspective. And that's perspective. And here's
Speaker 1: the other thing. You understand a lot of time about coaches.
Speaker 1: Coaches don't like bad mouthing other coaches. It's like doctors
Speaker 1: ever go ask the doctor about another doctor like they
Speaker 1: doctors will never say anything bad about another doctor because
Speaker 1: they don't want to come blown back on them, and
Speaker 1: so asking Jimmy Johnson or Bill Belichick about urban Meyer,
Speaker 1: they're not I mean they don't know him. I mean
Speaker 1: like like the day to day and they're probably not
Speaker 1: gonna just rip the guy because like they have this
Speaker 1: little community, this will fraternity. So I agree with Pete
Speaker 1: when I said, go ask, go ask the guys that go,
Speaker 1: ask people who have to work with these individuals every day,
Speaker 1: and whoever you hire next do the same deep deep die.
Speaker 1: You know we're joking about deep dive, but that's exactly
Speaker 1: what it is. But who does he get to do it?
Speaker 1: That's the quite. He needs somebody to guide him first
Speaker 1: and form If Trent Balky is not going to be
Speaker 1: part of the team, and we don't know that, but
Speaker 1: if he's not, then you need somebody to step in
Speaker 1: that's going to lead the process. And so how do
Speaker 1: you do you hire a guy who can hire and
Speaker 1: advise you on hiring your coach and GM together, or
Speaker 1: do you do you hire the GM and then he
Speaker 1: hires the coach. There's a lot of things that play
Speaker 1: in there that you have to decide how you're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. But he needs somebody to advise him and
Speaker 1: it's not Trent. It can't be Trent. If Trent advised
Speaker 1: him on urban Meyer, which you hear he did, then
Speaker 1: then I think you can't be Trent. So it has
Speaker 1: to be somebody on the outside. So do you hire
Speaker 1: a former personnel guy, a coach head coach Tony Dungee's
Speaker 1: name has been mentioned somebody along those lines. I just
Speaker 1: think he needs somebody to lean on with football background
Speaker 1: to help him get through the process. When we return,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. I mean, I thought there was I
Speaker 1: thought there were things that we did better today. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: there was. There was a little bit of explosions you
Speaker 1: were able to find, you know, find guys. We were
Speaker 1: in a creatin space for some people. But again we
Speaker 1: just said we did there's opportunities to make plays. We
Speaker 1: didn't make some of them. And we've got to catch
Speaker 1: the ball. We gotta throw the ball, um, you gotta
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta protect better and we'll be we'll
Speaker 1: be able to find it, find the in zone. But
Speaker 1: it's just it's on up continued improved. It's Daryl Bevil
Speaker 1: after the game yesterday at Jaguars lost to the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans and welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. J P
Speaker 1: Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli is rubbing his face, was
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna make it. It's been one of
Speaker 1: those afternoons already. Well, it's just we're just awful on
Speaker 1: offense and we were not getting better. And they like
Speaker 1: and what Daryl Bebel SAIDs right, and we gotta catch
Speaker 1: the ball. You gotta throw it more accurately, gonna block.
Speaker 1: There's just no juice. There's no juice on that side
Speaker 1: of the ball. What do you think of the decision
Speaker 1: to change make Brian Schottenheimer played, What can it hurt?
Speaker 1: Go for it? Try it? I mean does it matter?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean if it makes it easier for
Speaker 1: Daryl Bebel to manage the sound, manage the whole game. Sure,
Speaker 1: If I'm Darryl Bebel, I'm not doing it. Though. When
Speaker 1: they come out and score thirty a game, you'll never
Speaker 1: be an offensive coordinator again. And they are playing. They
Speaker 1: are playing a bad defense this week. By the way,
Speaker 1: what if they just like like a pinball machine in
Speaker 1: the Wait a minute, what this beel guy been doing where?
Speaker 1: Not even in the hole time? Maybe maybe he can
Speaker 1: cut down on the little bubble screens to channel from
Speaker 1: five to two or something per game. Yeah, I don't know, wow,
Speaker 1: but I mean it doesn't matter. I mean they're not
Speaker 1: How much can you change in one week? And you
Speaker 1: are who you are at this? All? Right? This the
Speaker 1: opening drive on I thought the opening drive look great.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you gotta do your your keeping it real well.
Speaker 1: This this leads us into the keeping It Real conversation
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Speaker 1: you know, no liquor has been sending my way. That's wine,
Speaker 1: which means you're the ones you're going to give out
Speaker 1: a Christmas too late. I'm in trouble. You guys all
Speaker 1: know why you're not getting your Christmas. President Bob didn't
Speaker 1: send me Santa Claus ain't coming to town. So this
Speaker 1: is kind of our topic here. I know we interrupted
Speaker 1: you there, but who are your offensive pillars right now?
Speaker 1: Who do you build around on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the football? Moving ahead, no matter who's picking, whatever is
Speaker 1: going on, who are the guys that are Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: you believe in Trevor Lawrence, James Robinson, Cam Robinson even
Speaker 1: still yeah, franchise him. Yeah, I mean, I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's hard to find go look around left tackles, and
Speaker 1: this week we've we've gone through this. It's not I'm
Speaker 1: building around. That's it. Pete quarterback left tackle for the
Speaker 1: right price. Running back is part of the running game,
Speaker 1: but I need some I need speed back there. I'm
Speaker 1: saying he's a guy, he's on your roster and got
Speaker 1: Etn coming off. None of the other guys Ben bart
Speaker 1: is on your roster. Tone that I'm just building around,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, Yeah, But like I might, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna upgrade right guard if I can. Like
Speaker 1: the way I look at the question you ask, like,
Speaker 1: where am I like going in next year? I feel
Speaker 1: like I've got three starters correct, But like I think Ben,
Speaker 1: I'll say differently. Do I think Ben Bart's started, Yes,
Speaker 1: Ben Barts can start. Like my guess is, unless you
Speaker 1: go find someone else like Jwan Taylor is gonna be
Speaker 1: your starting right tackle next year unless someone can be
Speaker 1: about I mean, finding offensive lignment is not easy, and
Speaker 1: you have a bunch of stuff, you know, here's something Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an example. Though. You watch the
Speaker 1: game Sunday night. The Saints played without their starting tackles
Speaker 1: and a backup guard, and they just totally did everything
Speaker 1: they could have gett A good defense protected him and
Speaker 1: he had time at times and it wasn't a disaster.
Speaker 1: Why is that Tony good coaching? Good scheme. You run
Speaker 1: the ball, take the pass, rush out, you play action pass,
Speaker 1: you move the pocket, you change the launch point. So
Speaker 1: it's guys can't tee off. I mean, I can give
Speaker 1: you a lot of things you can do. Differently, they
Speaker 1: haven't gotten any better the offensive line. Joan Taylor has
Speaker 1: got in the wrong direction. Andrew Norwell, I think he's
Speaker 1: hit the goodbye career over ledge and he's done. I
Speaker 1: think Brandon Linder is uh is basically washed up. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean not washed up, but he can't sit down
Speaker 1: the field. That's my concern with him, right and and
Speaker 1: the right guard has moments where he looks like he
Speaker 1: could be a good solid guard. He does. Okay, But
Speaker 1: let me ask you this question. Is there any receiver
Speaker 1: you're that you are not against like that, you're not
Speaker 1: trying to upgrade for the next any any tight ends
Speaker 1: you're not the game? No, Okay, in the on Sunday
Speaker 1: and I said four or five, let me finish. Okay,
Speaker 1: So there's not every you're gonna try it upgrade every receiver.
Speaker 1: You're gonna try to upgrade every tight end. Tell me
Speaker 1: the offensive line positions that you're not gonna try it
Speaker 1: upgrade left tackle. You're gonna keep your left hand, keeping Cam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for the right price. Because what I'm saying, but you're like,
Speaker 1: you're not actively going to Joe try and find another
Speaker 1: left tackle. No, No, you would. You would try and
Speaker 1: keep him for if the money got out of whack,
Speaker 1: you go try and find a left tackle. Fair enough,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming. I mean, if you had the franchise and
Speaker 1: again it's fifteen million bucks or seventeen million bucks next franchise,
Speaker 1: that's he's gonna be my left tackle. This Yes, that's
Speaker 1: my point. You can't because here's the thing. You can't
Speaker 1: fix everything, Like you literally have to put some plugs
Speaker 1: in saying we're going with this guy. We're like going there.
Speaker 1: But this is what the bill. Would you consider the
Speaker 1: offensive lineman with the first overall pick? Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: They kid from Alabama is the real deal. Evan Neil,
Speaker 1: Evan Neil. Let me tell you what I'm doing, Pete.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the best players because I don't have enough
Speaker 1: good ones. I don't what if a receiver was the
Speaker 1: best player, you wouldn't take it first? Well maybe why not?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't like that idea. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't take it back for her, you would take it
Speaker 1: back first. Well, there's never gonna be a back that's
Speaker 1: the best player. Well, he could be the best player,
Speaker 1: he's just not gonna have the most value. That's my point. Well,
Speaker 1: best player value, Like like, I'm taking the guy that
Speaker 1: brings the most value to my team. That's has to
Speaker 1: be a good player. For example, if Jonathan Taylor was
Speaker 1: in the draft, I'm not taking in the draft because
Speaker 1: he's a more value. Doesn't mean Pete, but this is
Speaker 1: where you go. Let me tell you how it goes.
Speaker 1: You know this, Come on, you draft quarterback, you draft,
Speaker 1: affect the quarter back, you draft, protect the quarterback, and
Speaker 1: then you and then you know you have and then
Speaker 1: you know you draft to quarterbacks passes down the corner.
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, I'm telling my order because you
Speaker 1: know what, if you affect the quarterback, you can play
Speaker 1: with inferior dbs. Go tell me the four who are
Speaker 1: the four starting dvs for the Giants when they killed
Speaker 1: Brady and ended their undefeated season. You can't tell me.
Speaker 1: You know, you could tell me. You can tell me
Speaker 1: the front four that we're getting after him. But but Tony,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yes, okay, you listen. Tell you fix it.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you fix it. Quarterback, affect the quarterback,
Speaker 1: protect the quarterback speed on offense. That's it. Go do that,
Speaker 1: you'll be okay. No, it's it's a five pronged approach.
Speaker 1: Now it used to be four prong gets the quarterback,
Speaker 1: knocked down the quarterback, protect the quarterback, knocked down, the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks passes, and now it's catch them with speed. It's
Speaker 1: the game has changed. It never used to be a receiver. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: I take My point is I'm putting beat in front
Speaker 1: of your knocking down the quarterback's ball because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a pass rush. It's gonna be knocking the guy's
Speaker 1: head off. He's not gonna going to throw it. But
Speaker 1: how good would your defense if you had Jalen behind
Speaker 1: the pass rush like that? Why, I've talked to defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators that I respect, and they say, you know, what
Speaker 1: makes a great back half is a great front four. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm let me tell you what. There's
Speaker 1: a theory out there now that the secondary is more important.
Speaker 1: I don't buy it, hey, because because here's the thing,
Speaker 1: Pete go remember the forty nine when solo two years
Speaker 1: ago they went to the Super Bowl and Richard Shermon
Speaker 1: was old and couldn't run, but was all Pro or
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl? Right? Are U s anyone on that step?
Speaker 1: They were great on the back half because they had
Speaker 1: four dudes who could get after the quarterback and you
Speaker 1: never had time back there. I'm with you that the
Speaker 1: most important positions are quarterback and knocking him down and
Speaker 1: then protecting the quarterback. And then I'm my only thing
Speaker 1: is I'm not saying the secondary is not important, but
Speaker 1: I need guys who can run outside on offense safety speeded.
Speaker 1: I need speed on offense speed and not just straight
Speaker 1: line speed. I need suddenness. I need like make you miss, like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you're in the open field. I'm scared
Speaker 1: to death. You're going to the house. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's only a very few of that. I'll take. I'll
Speaker 1: take Deebo, Samuel Speed, I'll take um, I'll take what's
Speaker 1: I'll take Seedee Lamb Speed, I'll take. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: there's a plenty of mouth justin Jefferson. You gotta go
Speaker 1: with those guys in the first round. Though, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: I trade like I'm like I'm with Pete if I
Speaker 1: could trade back if I had the first overall pick,
Speaker 1: unless like one of those guys just jumps off at
Speaker 1: the page and I just have to have him, like
Speaker 1: he's a difference maker. Trade back to five or six
Speaker 1: if you can, and go get a receiver. You need
Speaker 1: speed now, But I haven't done anywhere. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not like we've done work. Maybe Hutchinson's like the like
Speaker 1: the next Nick Bosa. Well, then guess what, I'm taking
Speaker 1: them number one. And by the way, the free agent
Speaker 1: market if receivers got a hit last night with Chris Godward,
Speaker 1: Terry's a c L. I thought it was his m
Speaker 1: c L they had, so he's out for the yearn
Speaker 1: who I read? Because this afternoon the first report was
Speaker 1: m c L. Right, and then they went they did
Speaker 1: another test and it was the A c L. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not good. So that was Keeping it Real presented
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Speaker 1: we kept it real with a really long list of
Speaker 1: things on offense. Yeah, there's a lot of holes. Let's
Speaker 1: come back in social media questions. They'll cheer us all up.
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Speaker 1: Hour and it's time for social media questions. We put
Speaker 1: the bat signal out each Monday on Twitter. Here's the
Speaker 1: best we've come up with. Today's a lot by the
Speaker 1: way at Duvall Underscore twenty four. I know James Robinson
Speaker 1: is a fan favorite. I't like him too, but why
Speaker 1: does he look so slow? A few runs he has
Speaker 1: on the outside looked like it took him fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: to try to turn the corner, which he didn't. Pete, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say that's something I was getting
Speaker 1: into when we talked about core players. James Robinson is
Speaker 1: a good running back. He's a he's a grinder. But
Speaker 1: they don't they need and they have et M so
Speaker 1: obviously he's on the roster when he comes back from injury.
Speaker 1: But they need an explosive player at the running back position.
Speaker 1: And there were times on Sunday where there were holes
Speaker 1: and it looked like he should add more than what
Speaker 1: he had. They beat up and they dropped et In
Speaker 1: by the way, got hurt. But James beat up to
Speaker 1: He's got a heel and knee. It's not I mean,
Speaker 1: the kid was averaging over five yards and carry. He's
Speaker 1: a good runner. To what you just said is nonsense.
Speaker 1: You're going in. I mean, listen, you're falling for the
Speaker 1: same trapper. Obviously, No, I'm not. I think he's a
Speaker 1: good back, but you need a change of pace, explosive back,
Speaker 1: and they don't have that right now, Well, that's fair
Speaker 1: but that is I mean, James Robson's a starting NFL back.
Speaker 1: If you average five yards and carry, you're starting back.
Speaker 1: But now, if you would have told me you made
Speaker 1: the comment, if you'd have made the comment like he's
Speaker 1: mark Ingram and you need Alvin Kamara with him, that's fair.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's fair.
Speaker 1: That's what they thought they had. I think, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I didn't see that in camp. By the way,
Speaker 1: there was nothing in camp that say that was the
Speaker 1: plan we were told. I get that, and I hope
Speaker 1: it's the plan. That's right. I just didn't see it
Speaker 1: in camp, did you no? No? Question number two social media.
Speaker 1: We're often running on this one at Carnival. Thomas question
Speaker 1: for both Pete why would Tony make a terrible head coach?
Speaker 1: And Tony why would Pete make a terrible head coach? JP?
Speaker 1: Who would be worse? Well, Pete couldn't be a head
Speaker 1: Answer first, Pete could not be to make a terrible
Speaker 1: head coach because his emotions are all over the place.
Speaker 1: He can't handle losing. He'd be a bad loser. He
Speaker 1: could never be able to have a hard time. Moving
Speaker 1: on to the next games to get emotional on the sidelines,
Speaker 1: training thought on the sidelines, Helly, he wouldn't be on time,
Speaker 1: His meetings would start late. He wouldn't be a good
Speaker 1: head coach. That sounds familiar. That's not accurate at all.
Speaker 1: Outside I would have a hard time getting over losing.
Speaker 1: That's true, but I can move on um. Pete couldn't
Speaker 1: be a head coach because he'd be too worried about like,
Speaker 1: we need to be more creative. I need more bunches.
Speaker 1: I need more like picks, rob rub picks rub, need
Speaker 1: more more of that. And he doesn't know anything else,
Speaker 1: and he forget that you actually have to run the
Speaker 1: ball and walk people that you just can't rob little
Speaker 1: circles on the sideline, say rob here, pick here, bunch, bunch, bunch,
Speaker 1: because he doesn't know anything. Yes, I do. I know
Speaker 1: that you can do that because they've done done it
Speaker 1: before a couple of times. I've had success with it,
Speaker 1: So do it. I gotta say I'm siding with Pete
Speaker 1: on this one. That Tony would lose his mind on
Speaker 1: the sideline and lose. So you're saying, wait, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. I think so. You're an idiot it's it's
Speaker 1: it's I'll be honest from a football point, I picked
Speaker 1: the CLI too because he's been there and done it,
Speaker 1: and he knows what it takes to win, and he
Speaker 1: understands how a team is built and he understand. But
Speaker 1: the other side will give him about fifty five demerits
Speaker 1: for every positive that he Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean. My problem would be, here's my problem. If
Speaker 1: I'm in a game and my kicker has a kick
Speaker 1: to tie the game late and it's from thirty five
Speaker 1: yards and he misses it, I'm old school. I might
Speaker 1: want to grab his helmet and give him a choke.
Speaker 1: You know you've just thrown around and I can't do that.
Speaker 1: Make your damn kick. I'd want to make. Even Pete
Speaker 1: agrees with me that I'd be better. You're an idiot.
Speaker 1: You chose the guy that didn't even choose himself. I
Speaker 1: would say, for the soundbites only, I would pick Pete
Speaker 1: first of all, Pete? How great? Pete? How great would
Speaker 1: it be if I was head coaching you were in
Speaker 1: the press during a press conference? How much would you
Speaker 1: enjoy that? Oh? I make you cry? You'd want to
Speaker 1: come after me standing for TV. Al right, next question
Speaker 1: social media. We are rolling now at nine oh four
Speaker 1: and more at this point, is there anything to fix
Speaker 1: the undisciplined penalties off season? An off season? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean they keep on making mistakes where they extend
Speaker 1: drives and give up points. I mean they were three
Speaker 1: and out on the opening drive out of the gate
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like it was a little hands in
Speaker 1: the face. He ripped his help off. What are we doing?
Speaker 1: How many? How many? How many? Where do they ranking?
Speaker 1: Penalties were compared to the rest of the league. That's
Speaker 1: an interesting question. And where do they rank and penalties
Speaker 1: compared to the all time penalized teams? Tony, I told
Speaker 1: you this your team's back in the day. Better Pete
Speaker 1: the better stat if you could find it. How many
Speaker 1: penalties does this team have that extended drives that are
Speaker 1: basically like turnovers like that one the hands of the face,
Speaker 1: that's a turnover. You're giving the ball back to them.
Speaker 1: Mhm awful. They've done that in some form or fashion
Speaker 1: A lot, a lot awful. All right. Next, it's not
Speaker 1: just the penalty, it's when you do it like so,
Speaker 1: it's one of the things you can't have dumb team
Speaker 1: can't be a dumb like dumb football. They just beat
Speaker 1: you every time. Dumb football kills you at Devil X Jaguars.
Speaker 1: An next question, why do we make the easy things
Speaker 1: look difficult and the hard things look impossible? For years
Speaker 1: we've had the same problems, no matter the staff. What's
Speaker 1: the solution? Are Trevor's problems fixable? He just doesn't playing well?
Speaker 1: Also getting no help, Love you guys, Merry Christmas. That's
Speaker 1: a lot. That's a lot to digest, a lot of
Speaker 1: mood swings there. So I guess the main question is
Speaker 1: why I think so hard? Because when you're a bad
Speaker 1: football team, everything's hard. And we're a bad football team
Speaker 1: right now. And you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: how do I say, you almost kid what you deserve?
Speaker 1: You pick. If you pick the wrong people and you
Speaker 1: have the wrong people leading, you're not gonna have success.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think it's pretty clear that urban
Speaker 1: Meyer was not the right guy. Yeah, but you know
Speaker 1: what though, Tony, he had that quarterback competition in the summer.
Speaker 1: Help builds. Yeah, I mean, I mean, looking back on that,
Speaker 1: that might well, people, here's the thing, just a little
Speaker 1: hand at how much garbage was in that building and
Speaker 1: that give me a break quarterback. Yeah, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a competition to see are you kidding? You? And I
Speaker 1: thought it. That was one of the first things you
Speaker 1: and I talked about it. We weren't as direct on
Speaker 1: the air because you know, early we're trying to be
Speaker 1: support supportive, but you and I talked about like how
Speaker 1: ridiculous that was, Like how taking away reps from your
Speaker 1: starting quarterback to do some facade, have some facade out there. No,
Speaker 1: wait a second, you weren't as direct on the air.
Speaker 1: You're right, but my points you and I had all
Speaker 1: we had conversations about it. No, you're right, we did.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of conversations. By the way, penalty wise,
Speaker 1: there are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven
Speaker 1: teams with more penalties than Jacksonville and there fourth in
Speaker 1: the league and pre snap penalty so a lot of
Speaker 1: pre snap mistakes too. Yeah, I would love it, would
Speaker 1: be great, would be great. Someone actually did some homework
Speaker 1: and like how many of the penalties extended drives, Like
Speaker 1: they're off the field and extended to drive. M not pretty?
Speaker 1: You know that. Next question social media, they're rolling in
Speaker 1: to night at Zach Bierman. What are teams doing to
Speaker 1: take Josh Allen out of the game and should he
Speaker 1: be able to overcome that given he was drafted to
Speaker 1: be a premier pass rusher. Well, of course, we've talked
Speaker 1: about this. I'm not seeing anything. There's no like purposeful
Speaker 1: like running guys at him, trying to double them. I
Speaker 1: ain't They're just blocking them. I've not seen you said it.
Speaker 1: We're worth blocked him when they played him a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. He ran because he ran line into him. Pete.
Speaker 1: He had a four year old who struggles to bend
Speaker 1: his knees and isn't really moving that. Get on the edge,
Speaker 1: make him move his feet, go speed to power. Change
Speaker 1: it up. Hey, Pete, we're on the showing. Here's the
Speaker 1: other thing. Here's the other thing. It's not like a
Speaker 1: chipping them and doubling them as if you were paying attention.
Speaker 1: It's what I just said. You're too busy looking around
Speaker 1: your office and who never came in. Literally what I said,
Speaker 1: you didn't say exactly that I didn't pay attention. Pay
Speaker 1: attention to the show, Pete, like I do every day,
Speaker 1: every segment of every show. Tony Boselly Pete is locked in.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what he was late tonight. He
Speaker 1: was locked in when he showed up. I let you
Speaker 1: know as to be late first of all, so I'm
Speaker 1: not late if I tell you, I mean we but
Speaker 1: but j P. We can forgive him for being late
Speaker 1: tonight because he had that consultation and meeting about becoming
Speaker 1: the general. Did not. That's a lie peak. Stop saying
Speaker 1: that that's not funny. You're gonna get me in trouble.
Speaker 1: That's not true. Kidding. Everybody knows I'm kidding. I don't know.
Speaker 1: People sometimes based on some of the tweets weekend in
Speaker 1: social media, I think some people think you're serious until Twitter.
Speaker 1: Jaguars look at Baseli for no, no, no, they have
Speaker 1: a GM. Trent Baldon is the GM. Just imagine in
Speaker 1: this zoom interview today he wore the Lumberjack shirt. Now
Speaker 1: that's bold, that would be bold lumberjack. It's kind of
Speaker 1: it's kind of lumberjack ish. Was was it? Was it
Speaker 1: for football? Are you doing a game this week or something?
Speaker 1: What I'm doing the game? I'm doing the Titans game
Speaker 1: Thursay night of Nashville. Okay, it's a good game, Titans. Titans,
Speaker 1: Hey they tied. They're only a game, game and a
Speaker 1: half ahead of the Colts. Now here they come. Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is playing good football. Buck one another social media question,
Speaker 1: keep them rolling in here at rich Ato. If the
Speaker 1: teams were open to it, would you trade the first
Speaker 1: overall pick from Mike Tomlin or Sean Payton? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: first overall? No second round? Sure, when's the last time
Speaker 1: that happened? Was that Bill? Bill Belichick? Didn't Gruden get Yeah?
Speaker 1: Gruden Tampa Beta, Oakland, Oakland Raiders, Tampa. I know, I
Speaker 1: know Belichick got traded from the Jets, the Patriots or
Speaker 1: Patriots and Jets whatever it was back then. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: um well yeah, what is it? Would you give up that?
Speaker 1: Would you give a second round or ever Sean Payton
Speaker 1: or Mike Tollin, Yes, I would do. I would do. Wow, Terab,
Speaker 1: what's not good? Why are you? Why are you still
Speaker 1: wearing the cards? I want to prove that it's not
Speaker 1: a lumberjack. It's more of like a like it's like
Speaker 1: a surfer. God, I'm at the beach in California's little
Speaker 1: chili just out of the water. Just's California. I was
Speaker 1: hanging in California. I was hanging tan, hanging tan on
Speaker 1: my board. That's the biggest surfboard in the history of surfboards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they gotta keep warm your little chili. One more
Speaker 1: social media question at Reno High Tower, twenty one jags
Speaker 1: of the playoffs in four over or under? I say
Speaker 1: under under. We'll get a coach in there that knows
Speaker 1: what they're doing. They'll be under for sure. Maybe next year.
Speaker 1: Next year. I was next year, he said next year. No. Look,
Speaker 1: I thought they'd be in the playoff. I thought they
Speaker 1: have a real shot to be in the playoffs in
Speaker 1: twenty two. They're not. There's no way. I say three yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if Trevor Lawrence isn't the real deal,
Speaker 1: they won't be in the playoffs until so get used
Speaker 1: to that. If he's not, that'll do it for social
Speaker 1: media questions. One a way to bring us down. We'll
Speaker 1: come back in a moment. Fred Taylor. We're gonna hear
Speaker 1: from him coming up. No, no, no, we we had
Speaker 1: him on post game yesterday with some comments about a
Speaker 1: certain somebody on this program taking shots. We'll find out.
Speaker 1: I hope they'll go around the NFL in just a moment.
Speaker 1: You don't want to miss this. It's Jaguars Happy Hour
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour,
Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Bosella. Yesterday on Jaguars
Speaker 1: Post Game on the Jaguars Radio Network, Mike Dempsey, Fred
Speaker 1: Taylor and I had some final thoughts before we closed
Speaker 1: out the show. It was a little boxing conversation. Frank
Speaker 1: Gore was in the boxing ring the other day. Fred
Speaker 1: Taylor knows him. Well. Here's how the show ended yesterday
Speaker 1: on Jaguars Radio. So the day after Christmas, it's the
Speaker 1: Jaguars and the New York Jets at MetLife Stadium a
Speaker 1: one o'clock kickoff time December in week number sixteen, Fred,
Speaker 1: Great to see you. What's gonna w next week? Christmas? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I wish I was out there. I mean we'll get
Speaker 1: a w you wish you were out there? So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: ten years removed, I can do. All these guys are
Speaker 1: boxing late and I can still front of the ball
Speaker 1: twelve carries or maybe eight? Would you ever consider boxing? No?
Speaker 1: But I will come on a fight though, if you
Speaker 1: if you did considera like, who would you like to
Speaker 1: get a piece of in the ring? Um? Probably Pete Prisco.
Speaker 1: I'll tell Pete all the time he started the fragile
Speaker 1: Fred thing, but he says he did. But Peter's my guy.
Speaker 1: You know, we we've developed the friendship. But I like,
Speaker 1: put him in there with no head gear and nothing.
Speaker 1: Let me just bang him up. Sure you have the
Speaker 1: height and reach advantage, that's for sure. Oh for sure.
Speaker 1: I just hit him like King Cooper Mike Tyson, just
Speaker 1: belly shots all day. Oh that was classic Fred Taylor yesterday.
Speaker 1: Pete about it? You know he I'm bringing him into
Speaker 1: our studio in a couple of weeks to do something
Speaker 1: with with Ray Lewis, to help him try and get
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I might cancel that. Look, Fred's kidding.
Speaker 1: We have a great relationship. He's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: guys that ever covered. And uh and I did not
Speaker 1: start fragile Fred. I promise you I did not start Fred.
Speaker 1: I am guilty of one thing back and walked up
Speaker 1: to friend when he was a young player, and I
Speaker 1: tricked him into saying he could rush for two thousand
Speaker 1: yards in a season by saying, hey, Fred, you know
Speaker 1: these guys have a role rush for two thousand yard?
Speaker 1: Do you think you can get there? Oh? I get
Speaker 1: the two thousand yards. And I had my head, lie
Speaker 1: Fred oller, I could rush for two thousand and so
Speaker 1: I that was I did do that. But I the
Speaker 1: fragile Fred was not me because I I am one
Speaker 1: of the few guys around that team that took up
Speaker 1: for him, because I know a bad that growing was
Speaker 1: ripped off the bone and Coughlan listed him at week
Speaker 1: the week, every single week, which was it was not
Speaker 1: unfair to Fred Taylor. I still like to see put
Speaker 1: you in the boxing ring. No, you would, he'd beat
Speaker 1: daylights out. But I fight though. Let's go around the
Speaker 1: National Can I bring? Can I bring like a baseball
Speaker 1: bat in there or something you need? You need all
Speaker 1: the help you can get. Yeah, that's right, Fred can
Speaker 1: bring he can bring it. Let's go around the NFL hits,
Speaker 1: some scores, some highlights. Chargers fell to the Chiefs on Thursday,
Speaker 1: the Colts over the Patriots. Saturday, the Bills knocked off
Speaker 1: the Panthers fourteen. The Lions we mentioned them earlier. A
Speaker 1: fullback touchdown Dan Miller with a call of courtesy of
Speaker 1: w x y T FM N on the ticket and
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions radio network. Stop takes, turns, fakes the gift,
Speaker 1: rolls right, grows Tut's touch down, Detroit Lions hard run,
Speaker 1: fake left off, roll right, found's full back and the
Speaker 1: Lions have added to that lead. What a win for
Speaker 1: the Lions feet The Jaguars lost, so their number one
Speaker 1: in the draft order. Now the Lions get their second win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know what, that was a bad showing for Arizona.
Speaker 1: That's a bad loss. That that can't happen quick thing.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask Tony if he knew this. They
Speaker 1: showed Brunell on the sideline during the game and he
Speaker 1: had a play sheet. Was he called him plays on Sunday?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, Dan Campbell calls place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might have to go. You might have to ask
Speaker 1: he's had a play sheet all year? They because he's no.
Speaker 1: He looked like he was engaged, and I'm telling him,
Speaker 1: maybe it was called bass plays. I'll bet you anything
Speaker 1: you want, Pete. He was not calling place. I know,
Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't, but it looked like he was more
Speaker 1: involved than that. But hey, maybe that's what would be
Speaker 1: a good thing for Brunell. You can hired Kevin O'Connell's
Speaker 1: being the head coach and bring Brunell back to Jackson
Speaker 1: will be the offensive coordinator. Would you hire here's a
Speaker 1: question for we didn't talk about this next head coach.
Speaker 1: Does he need to have head coach NFL head coaching
Speaker 1: experience for you to hire? Nope? Would you would you
Speaker 1: favor a guy who had head coaching experience? Nope? I
Speaker 1: think you need to be I have been a play
Speaker 1: caller at some point. I think I think I would
Speaker 1: at this point. You know why. I think you need
Speaker 1: like somebody who's done it before, like place like you
Speaker 1: need to get it back on track, and like I'd
Speaker 1: worry about a young guy who's never a young guy
Speaker 1: who's never done it before, Pete, I'd worry about. So
Speaker 1: you just narrowed it down to a guy like Josh McDaniels,
Speaker 1: because I didn't just eliminated Byron Left which I just
Speaker 1: eliminated Kellnmore, you just eliminated Kevin O'Connell. You just eliminated Todd.
Speaker 1: Odd Bowls could be a possibility Todd Bowls. You didn't
Speaker 1: listen to what I said, I'm not saying I eliminate anyone.
Speaker 1: I would lean towards like somebody who's not been head
Speaker 1: coach before, like a Byron left with Kevin O'Connell or Kullenmore.
Speaker 1: They would have to blow my socks off for me
Speaker 1: not to go with a guy that had experienced like
Speaker 1: a Todd Bowls or a um or Doug Peterson or
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel or Jim Calwell or whoever's out there that
Speaker 1: has experience. Some more games around the NFL, Dolphins over
Speaker 1: the Jets thirty one four, Cowboys beat the Giants twenty
Speaker 1: one six. The Steelers over the Titans. The Steelers are
Speaker 1: covered a fumble Bill hill Grove on one or two
Speaker 1: point five w d V and the Steelers radio network.
Speaker 1: He steps in, We're the one back, look at a slot,
Speaker 1: right tight end, right read deploys to the left side
Speaker 1: of the formation. Oh, I fumbled a snap. It's there,
Speaker 1: and a big paddle up and the standers say they
Speaker 1: have it. Who has the ball? The fumbled snap ends
Speaker 1: up in standler's hand. Yes, yes, yes, fired up. Steelers
Speaker 1: win it. The Titans, who they'll get a little shaky
Speaker 1: in the a f C South right now, we lost
Speaker 1: four and five. I told I said here first, Pete said,
Speaker 1: there's no chance to here come the Colts. Three games left,
Speaker 1: one two games back. Would surprise you? Who do the
Speaker 1: Colts have this week? Stand by? You think you you
Speaker 1: really think in three games they're gonna blow They're gonna
Speaker 1: blow that culture at Arizona, Okay, culture in Arizona, Okay,
Speaker 1: would surprised you have the cold to beat the Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 1: who were going the wrong way? Okay? The proj hold
Speaker 1: on who's who's Who's Week six? Who's Week seventeen for
Speaker 1: the Colts at the home against the Raiders at Cardinals
Speaker 1: at Cardinals home against the Raiders at the Jaguars for
Speaker 1: the Colts. And the Titans have the Texans. The Titans
Speaker 1: have to win one game, that's right, No, they have
Speaker 1: to win two. Sorry, they know if they lose. If
Speaker 1: the Titans win one of the next three and the
Speaker 1: Colts win all three, the Colts win the division because
Speaker 1: they won the Titans. Titans win one and the Colts
Speaker 1: lose one, they win the division. That's Titans are home
Speaker 1: against San Fran, home against Miami, and then at Houston.
Speaker 1: They're winning too. They're done. Okay, we'll remember that. Moving
Speaker 1: ahead now to the Bengals at the Broncos. Tyler Boyd
Speaker 1: with a long touchdown Dan Horde on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen
Speaker 1: thirty and the Bengals Radio Network. The Bengals don't huddle.
Speaker 1: They snap it to Burrow, throw us downfield for a
Speaker 1: wide up. Boyd catch us at the thirty, great truck
Speaker 1: cut back toward the middle of the field of the ten,
Speaker 1: the five touchdown. Bengals a fifty six yard answer Choe
Speaker 1: Burrow to Tyler Boyd and the Bengals are back in front.
Speaker 1: About the Bengals, Pete, it's a good team. It's a
Speaker 1: good young team. And they got a big game this
Speaker 1: week with the Ravens. And remember last time they played
Speaker 1: the Ravens they dominated them. And the Ravens are banged
Speaker 1: up across the board. Man, their secondary is bad right now,
Speaker 1: So I look, the Bengals have a real shot to
Speaker 1: win that division. About that a real chance. They were
Speaker 1: terrible last year, good this year. Forts over the Falcons thirteen,
Speaker 1: and then the Packers held on against the Ravens. They
Speaker 1: went for two point try late the Ravens did it
Speaker 1: failed the Packers win. Wayne lav he had the call
Speaker 1: on the Packers radio network motion from a tight end
Speaker 1: of the wing of the left side, Huntley and the
Speaker 1: shot gun lot Tavias Burry to his right, sniffed to Huntley,
Speaker 1: rolls right, throws right side of the ends Tennison complete, incomplete,
Speaker 1: right corner of the ends on in front of the
Speaker 1: pilot and incomplete. The Packers are gonna hang on and
Speaker 1: win this game. Pete, how do you feel about those calls?
Speaker 1: Going for two? Well? Did Wayne not realize that there
Speaker 1: was also an onside kick coming too? There wasn't the
Speaker 1: left look that one I had no problem with. And
Speaker 1: here's why they The Packers had done whatever they wanted
Speaker 1: to on offense. They were really struggling in the secondary.
Speaker 1: They had the momentum. I don't. I don't have any
Speaker 1: issue with that one. I normally I would push back
Speaker 1: on something like that, but that situation, go for it.
Speaker 1: And Huntley played well. By the way he played, he
Speaker 1: did some really good things. The Saints over the Buccketeers.
Speaker 1: The last team that shut out Tom Brady was coached
Speaker 1: by Nick Saban. That's how long ago that was nine nothing.
Speaker 1: The score yesterday Saints over the Buccaneers. Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1: A couple of games one underway right now, the Las
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders and the Cleveland Browns, and then later tonight
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings and the Chicago Bears. Who you got
Speaker 1: tonight in a doubleheader. Guys, that was terrible, by the way,
Speaker 1: that was the worst one I've ever had. As almost
Speaker 1: as bad as your jacket because he was, you know why,
Speaker 1: because there were two games and he was kind of
Speaker 1: discombobulated a little bit. They threw him off his bo
Speaker 1: almost as bad as his jacket. The Raiders and the
Speaker 1: Project Man. COVID has just wrecked them. And then no
Speaker 1: quarterbacks there down to the third Street quarterback in tonight,
Speaker 1: I like Minnesota talking about people haven't paid attention. Chicago's
Speaker 1: ravaged by Covids as Cleveland. Almost the entire secondaries out.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins has a huge day. Raiders lead at seven nothing,
Speaker 1: by the way, six minutes left in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: And Tuesday see ton't let the Rams Washington Philly. That
Speaker 1: means go Rams Philly. By the way, the NFL loves
Speaker 1: they don't like COVID, but they love playing games every
Speaker 1: night of the week. I can tell you that ratings.
Speaker 1: Banan Bonanza, Pete, have a great week, Peter. All right, guys, Mary,
Speaker 1: Christmas to you. I don't Christmas Pete, Chrisco the Grinch laugh.
Speaker 1: He didn't bring it out tonight. Joe Fortunato in the
Speaker 1: audio tell my wife he made fun of my jackets
Speaker 1: about me. A yeah, I like it. It's comfortable. He
Speaker 1: was coming at me. I didn't bring it back to him.
Speaker 1: Chick Chicks dig. That's Tony Vaselli. I'm J. P. Shadrick.
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