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Speaker 1: It is Monday, December. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: My name's J. P. Shadrick. We have a busy show

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Speaker 1: as always on Monday. Of course, CBS Sports senior writer

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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco joining us prior to the Jaguars. Left tackle

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is nearby. We'll hear from him soon. The

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer aftermath continues, in fact reviewing Week fifteen, the

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Speaker 1: Texans over the Jaguars thirty to sixteen. The final score.

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Speaker 1: The Jags are number one in the draft order next year.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that, of course, social media questions and

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Speaker 1: around the NFL and Week fifteen, Welcome in again. A

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Speaker 1: wild week, of course with the Jacksonville Jaguars that started

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Speaker 1: truly last Saturday, NFL media reports about tension between the players,

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Speaker 1: the staff, and head coach Urban Meyer, and then the

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Speaker 1: next day a twenty nothing loss at Tennessee. Last Monday,

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Speaker 1: Jack's owner Shot con was meeting with select media members

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Speaker 1: on the eve of the tenth anniversary of ownership, so

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Speaker 1: he was out in the media with a lot of

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Speaker 1: things going on, NFL owners meetings in Dallas Tuesday and Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Times article released Wednesday afternoon, but in reality

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Speaker 1: the wheels had been in motion, and then Thursday at

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Speaker 1: twelve thirty nine am the announcement that Meyer was fired.

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Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday preparation under interim head coach Daryl Bevil,

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Speaker 1: and then Saturday at five pm Meyer speaking with Ian

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Speaker 1: Rappaport of NFL Media, apologizing to Jacksonville, denying accusations against

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Speaker 1: him in the final days. And then Sunday, a loss

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Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans with a third round rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: Texans with COVID nineteen special teams issues, dropped some few

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Speaker 1: big plays on offense. Interim head coach Darryl Bevil after

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Speaker 1: the game, you know it really what really ends up

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Speaker 1: being a normal week. I mean, we're used to all

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Speaker 1: kinds of things that change, and so we have to

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Speaker 1: be ready to um to make adjustments and uh and

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Speaker 1: and be able to adapt to the situation and thought

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Speaker 1: our guys, whether it was the players or the coaches

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Speaker 1: did a good job putting the plan together. Um, the

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Speaker 1: guys were, The guys were ready, they were into it. Um,

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Speaker 1: we just didn't play a clean football game today. That's

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Speaker 1: Darryl Bevil of course. Pete Prisco joining us now CBS

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Speaker 1: Sports senior writer, And a good afternoon, Pete. What a

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Speaker 1: week it's been. Man. Where where's the big fella? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. He's apparently nearby. He said he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a few minutes behind. He had something going on and

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Speaker 1: he'll be in here. Well, maybe I said, having that

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Speaker 1: needing to try and become the general manager, I see that.

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Speaker 1: You think that's what they haven't even got. They haven't

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Speaker 1: even got rid of the new gentleman, the old generalman.

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Speaker 1: He's already sniffing around. It's a cold business. You like

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Speaker 1: stirring it up, Pete, I know how you do. I

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Speaker 1: sure do, boy, I started up for a while, didn't I. Look. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I was not surprised he

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Speaker 1: got fired. Uh should he have been fired? Yes, he

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Speaker 1: should have been fired. Um. How many different ways did

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Speaker 1: I say without really saying it? I mean I said no,

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Speaker 1: think that the whole thing got out of control, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's unfair, Like I went on my my rant

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Speaker 1: last week, it's unfair to the fans to have this

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Speaker 1: happen again, and you can't allow it to happen again.

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Speaker 1: So now he's gone. Uh, they have to go find

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Speaker 1: the right guy to build this thing around that quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And and the quarterback has regressed. And I watched the

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Speaker 1: tape today and he missed some throws, and his mechanics

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Speaker 1: have waned, and his feet aren't great, and like the

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Speaker 1: it's a combination of a bunch of different reasons why.

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Speaker 1: But now you move forward and find the guy to

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Speaker 1: fix them, find the guy to to build it around him.

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Speaker 1: And I think they can. I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: Don't get caught up in name. That's all I have

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Speaker 1: to say. They've played that game before. Look, they played

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Speaker 1: at this time Urban Meyer, the name, the name of

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Speaker 1: the name. Clearly, Um, this was a mistake, and I

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Speaker 1: And now you move on. But not a good look

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Speaker 1: for this franchise. Laughing stock again. Hate to say it,

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Speaker 1: you do to fix it? Who? Who does Sean con

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Speaker 1: So you can't rely on him. And so what do

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Speaker 1: million dollar questions right now. Because I don't think shod

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Speaker 1: Pete Priska with us Tony Boselli coming up here on

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Speaker 1: Jaguar's Happy Hour. How about the aftermath of this the

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Speaker 1: last few days, all the stories and interviews and things

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Speaker 1: that this football team is trying to move forward and

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Speaker 1: get some things done. They didn't play obviously well on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It's just a lot flying around right now, including Tony Boselli,

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Speaker 1: including toys walking through the walking right in front of

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Speaker 1: the camera. Of course, Donty, don't worry about us. We're

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Speaker 1: just doing a show here. Welcome to the show, Tony.

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Speaker 1: This show is much better now that I'm here, Pete.

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Speaker 1: Less of you, more me. How did it? How did

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Speaker 1: it go? Tony? How do the interview go for the

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Speaker 1: GM job to go? Well? That was the meeting you

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Speaker 1: were at, right, you gonna give me a no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: He was chopping and she was chopping a tree down.

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Speaker 1: It's cold. Look at this jacket, he's got it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: your lumberjack today? Is that what it is? Started? Like Christmas? Jack?

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Speaker 1: Is it cold? It's freezy outside? Ye, and I don't

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Speaker 1: want to rub it. It was eighty two today here,

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Speaker 1: so it's not. Yeah, I was. It was eighty two

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Speaker 1: hanging out. Now it's cold, Pete. And I've become a

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Speaker 1: for admitting his mistake. He deserves the merits for making

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Speaker 1: the mistake. But he admitted it, and that's that's the

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Speaker 1: best decision for the franchise. He made, made the decision

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Speaker 1: different ways did we say it on here or I

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Speaker 1: um that he had to go. Well, Pete, I think

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Speaker 1: not that was not an easy decision for Shot And

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Speaker 1: Like we think it's easy, Like we'll just get rid

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Speaker 1: like there's I always try to remind people it's like

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Speaker 1: Shot Cohn wants to win, like that's the goal, Like

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Speaker 1: Hiring has not been right. His hiring his head coaches

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Speaker 1: It's not embarrassing because he's above that. He's too good

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Speaker 1: greatest of the great He got bamboozled about urban Meyer.

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Speaker 1: He got caught up. It's like I always say about players,

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Speaker 1: it's game, not named, game, not name. They got caught

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Speaker 1: up in the name because clearly that he wasn't any game.

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Speaker 1: can petitive, like the dude likes to win. He wins

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Speaker 1: it everything in life. Like he is really dangn good

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Speaker 1: at business, like and like makes tough calls and and

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Speaker 1: Like that hurts when you lose and when it's your

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Speaker 1: not about him be embarrassed. I mean who It's like

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Speaker 1: that situation any longer because it was a bad situation.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, after this show, we won't have to talk

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Speaker 1: one quick thing, Tony. The mechanism for getting rid of

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Speaker 1: at that drive. Then it was the end of it

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Speaker 1: and went away. He is right now. The play where

425
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Speaker 1: he had Odiot or Shaughnessy on the sideline was playing designed.

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Speaker 1: They faked the bubble screen and they wrut him up

427
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Speaker 1: the sideline. So what do they do now? They go

428
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Speaker 1: back and run the bubble screen about fourteen more times

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Speaker 1: the rest of I mean, look, I can criticize the

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Speaker 1: offense all you want. I just you know how I

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Speaker 1: feel about that. But he is regressing because the design

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Speaker 1: of offense, because receivers don't win, because he's getting hit,

433
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Speaker 1: and because he just hasn't improved. He's not And that's

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Speaker 1: the most discerning thing. Would you agree, He's just not

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Speaker 1: accurate right now? His mechanics Tonty, Yeah, yeah. If you

436
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Speaker 1: watch the throw, I saw it times step into it,

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Speaker 1: step into it. It's a touchdown. His body's going one way,

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Speaker 1: his arms going the other. It's a terrible mechanics are terrible.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that Week one touchdown was a past

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Speaker 1: deep left to DJ chart. I remember that against Houston,

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Speaker 1: far corner of the end zone, away from where the

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Speaker 1: booth is going right to left. That's correct, back right

443
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Speaker 1: corner of the end zone, that's correct. And then he

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Speaker 1: threw another touchdown past the man hurts in that game,

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Speaker 1: didn't he yeh. He had three in that game, so

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Speaker 1: he has nine for the year. So he was on

447
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Speaker 1: he was on pace for fifty something. He had five

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Speaker 1: in the first three weeks of the season and then four.

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Speaker 1: That's a problem, Yeah, big problem. And he's part of

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Speaker 1: the problem. You know, I didn't I like when I

451
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Speaker 1: say that's a problem. He's part of including that problem.

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Speaker 1: Are you worried about him? Yes, I'm worried about everything.

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Speaker 1: I'm worried, Pete. How can you not be worried about

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Speaker 1: him not being that guy? Pete, we're one in fifteen

455
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Speaker 1: last year, we're two and twelve right now. That means

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Speaker 1: we're three And that's not what I'm asking You know,

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Speaker 1: you're missing my point. I'm worried about everything. Are you

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Speaker 1: worried he's not the guy? No, I still think he's

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Speaker 1: the guy. I do too, But I'm worried about everything.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's the guy. I'm betting on him.

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Speaker 1: But again, everything else you can worry about. If he

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Speaker 1: ain't the guy, that's another five six years in garbage. Pete,

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Speaker 1: let's not talking about that right now. By the way,

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Speaker 1: that fifty eight yard passed the longest of the season

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Speaker 1: for him, was against Tennessee Um and it was a

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Speaker 1: past deep left to Leaviscu should already ran out of bounds.

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Speaker 1: Fifty eight yards in that game october T was that

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Speaker 1: the underneath crosser that he random a deep left is

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Speaker 1: what it says, deep left? I don't remember remember that

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Speaker 1: either de Leviscus should all would be an aberration. So

471
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Speaker 1: maybe it was that ran all the way across the field.

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Speaker 1: That's not deep deep. I'm just doing what the official

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Speaker 1: book says. Yeah, I just don't mean, come on, Pete,

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Speaker 1: don't get on JP. It's fault. He's just reading. I

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Speaker 1: know he's reading. I'm not getting on JPM saying whoever

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Speaker 1: put that stat down in there? They're described the play

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Speaker 1: was wrong, wasn't deep left? Peter? Are you concerned about Trevor? No? No,

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Speaker 1: I mean he could put anybody in this system right

479
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Speaker 1: now and with that pool of receivers in that offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and he's not going to succeed. No, I'm not. I

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Speaker 1: have to start with. What I'm concerned with, though, is

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Speaker 1: the fact that through the processes mechanics have waned and

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Speaker 1: his accuracy is worse, and he's not getting through his

484
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Speaker 1: progressions as fast even as he did early in the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's going backwards, that's what you're saying. He's going the

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Speaker 1: wrong direct and he took and I think he's taken

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Speaker 1: easy throws rather than letting one fit in there and

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Speaker 1: take it. Like for example, and you see, if you

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Speaker 1: remember this play, he took one in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the field I think Dey shaughnessy on third down. It

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Speaker 1: was third and whatever, and he got to three yards

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Speaker 1: short of the first down in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: He had and I can't remember who it was on

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Speaker 1: the deep cross and he all he had to do

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Speaker 1: was fit it in there. And it's a twenty yards

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Speaker 1: shot down the middle of the field. He didn't take it.

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Speaker 1: He took the easier throw. And I'm seeing more and

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Speaker 1: more of that which is concerned. Well, everything that you're saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I do, But there are things that stood

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Speaker 1: out stood after me the last few weeks. Is his uh,

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00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: jumping this in the pocket a little bit. Like the

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Speaker 1: protection has not been great, let's be clear, but it's

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00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: been when it's good. Sometimes he's still moving around, going

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Speaker 1: into trouble instead of just being calm and sitting there

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Speaker 1: and taking a you know, hitch up, step up and

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Speaker 1: letting the fly. And so there's just a bunch of

507
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Speaker 1: stuff that makes you concerned. But I'm still a believer.

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00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm still doubling down. I'll double down right now on him.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an example on something. On something

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Speaker 1: you watched New England play the other night against the Colts,

511
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Speaker 1: Dick Colts didn't sniff mac Jones every single time he

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Speaker 1: went back to throw. He had to clean one of

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Speaker 1: the cleanest because the Colts aren't a great pass word

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Speaker 1: his team anyways, But his pockets were amaze, he sing

515
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Speaker 1: in that game. I mean, a few teams have pockets

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Speaker 1: like that, but Trevor Lawrence has a pocket like that.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna hit somebody. He's gonna if you give give

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Speaker 1: him the Hunter Henry and John hu Smith and the

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Speaker 1: creativity of Josh McDaniels and that offensive line. With that pocket,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence will look outstanding. Pete, you know the storyline

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Speaker 1: the next two weeks is gonna be the quarterback matchups

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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson Mac Jones versus Trevor Lawrence fair or not

523
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Speaker 1: this well and and Zack Wilson is another one that

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Speaker 1: hasn't looked good in large part because of who's around him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about think about the situations. Two situations

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Speaker 1: matter for young quarterback if you took Mac Jones, who's

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Speaker 1: a Jacksonville kid, put him with the Jaguars, and put

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence with the Patriots, Trevor Larns will be every

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Speaker 1: bit is good, if not better than Mac Jones, and

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones will be struggling like Trevor Lawrence. That's the

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Speaker 1: reality of it. Let's take a time out, we'll come

532
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Speaker 1: back a little defensive talk. We'll come back around with

533
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Speaker 1: the quarterback Tony all right, we might need to keep

534
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Speaker 1: the camera on for a live looking during the time

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Speaker 1: to plating ahead of course, we'll take a look at

536
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Speaker 1: the draft order that has changed in our weekly draft

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Speaker 1: segments since the Jaguars has been eliminated. Of course, the

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Speaker 1: second hour, your social questions and much more Jaguars Happy

539
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. The main thing we

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Speaker 1: try to focus only just hasn't I think that's one

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Speaker 1: of the most important. Uh who as you need as

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Speaker 1: a DV to you know, have good eye mixture, your

543
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Speaker 1: eyes on the season just in case he does a

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Speaker 1: double move where act lexis tucking and take off. So

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Speaker 1: that's the main thing he preached was, uh, have a

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Speaker 1: good eyes and don't let the ball uh, get over

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Speaker 1: our heads. It's Tyson Campbell, rookie cornerback and welcome back

548
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Speaker 1: at Saguar's Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon, J P.

549
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: Shadrick with Pete Priscoe and Tony Boselli recapping a Jags

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00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: loss to the Houston Texans thirty to sixteen. The final

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Speaker 1: score the Texans are three and eleven, two of those

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Speaker 1: wins against the Jags. Jags are two and twelve. And

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Speaker 1: we'll get to the draft order coming up. You probably

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Speaker 1: know what it is by now. In the two teams

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Speaker 1: we've beaten have winning records. That's right, an FC East

556
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Speaker 1: opponents Dolphins and Bills. Because the Dolphins won again, correct

557
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Speaker 1: they did? They rallied. They don't have a winning record though,

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Speaker 1: what are they seven and seven? Yeah? They're right there? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so every I mean my point is the two days

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Speaker 1: sweet beat or five and have a winning record. You

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Speaker 1: think you think what about the Bills? What about the Dolphins?

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Speaker 1: What do you think the Dolphins and the Bills are

563
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Speaker 1: thinking right now? After look watching us lose to the

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Speaker 1: Texans with eleven guys on the COVID list, seven starters out,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what are they thinking that? Like what how

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Speaker 1: did we? What? What? What? What happened? Hello? How did

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Speaker 1: this happen? Particularly the Bills six? I mean the jag

568
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: scored to combined thirty two points in those games. Three

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Speaker 1: was the high watermark against Miami. You understand, twenty three

570
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Speaker 1: the high watermark for the yeason? Yes, I understand. And

571
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: you had to kick to fifty yarders from from Oxford,

572
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Speaker 1: England to win the game. So are we the low

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Speaker 1: do we have the we have to have the we

574
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Speaker 1: have to be the lowest scoring offense in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Now after that last week because the the Texans outscored

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Speaker 1: put dirty on the board. I know the Texans were,

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Speaker 1: we were point two points more. It was thirteen eight

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Speaker 1: six eight to fourteen. We went up though, Yeah we

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Speaker 1: did because we scored sixteen. Yeah, so we're that's how

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Speaker 1: we were. We over achieved. It's it's it's really um

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Speaker 1: who what's that? Feet? I mean they lost the Buffalo.

582
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo has doubled the scoring after Jack Buffalo lost to them.

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Speaker 1: Defense had an epic day. That's why, Well let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the defense, because overall this defense has done a

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00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: good job this year. I mean even yesterday, I mean

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Speaker 1: the Texas stink one was a kick return the last

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Speaker 1: at the end of bubble screen. I mean it's like

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00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: it's so I mean, you don't want that to happen,

589
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: But the reality is they held him under three ye yards.

590
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: They gotta turn over. I mean, like like the defense,

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Speaker 1: I give Joe Coleen credit. It will be interesting to

592
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Speaker 1: see what happens with whoever the new coach in because

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna clean house on the offensive side,

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Speaker 1: Like I think that's like that's my I don't I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything, but my guess is when you

596
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Speaker 1: have the worst offense in the history of the franchise

597
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: and one of the worst in the history of the NFL,

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Speaker 1: you're probably gonna clean house. It'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: what they might clean house on the defensive side too.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he won't be he might, but I

601
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Speaker 1: would argue Joe Cohen has done a good job with this,

602
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Speaker 1: So if you have a good defensive corner, why would

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Speaker 1: you rid of him? And by the way, the guy

604
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: that he was speaking speaking at the podium before when

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Speaker 1: we played the sound, he's gotten ten times better. He's

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Speaker 1: gotten better, He's improved. The season is going most Improved

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year and he's gonna be good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can tell he's going to be good. So that's

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Speaker 1: a big hit for them. That well, we'll give him

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Speaker 1: credit for that. That's I mean, that's the big hit

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Speaker 1: so far. He right now, he's the best rookie. That's

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Speaker 1: a bad thing though. That is a bad things, but

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Speaker 1: one of two that have played first. That's another bad

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Speaker 1: Walker little play Walker little plate on Sunday he did yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That's right. It was better what happened to Cam Robinson

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Speaker 1: by the way the neck strained neck day to day.

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Speaker 1: But aren't we all so what do you think of

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Speaker 1: Walker little? Before we get to the defense, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to he was better. He still doesn't take great

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Speaker 1: angles on his sets, still doesn't use his hands like

621
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Speaker 1: he like lets him get into the body too much.

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Speaker 1: He got off balance on the one play where the

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Speaker 1: guy went around him. It looked like they am I

624
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: wrong about that where you like he let him get

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Speaker 1: into him and then he kind of fell and he

626
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Speaker 1: went around because he took a terrible set. He like

627
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: opened up the gate, didn't get it. I mean, it

628
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: was just terrible, the whole thing. But he was better.

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Speaker 1: You can see he's improving. He's working at it like

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Speaker 1: he's a big strong dude. Um, I might, I'm if Cam,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if Cam's healthy, I might start walking a

632
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Speaker 1: little right tackle. You said that going into the game today,

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Speaker 1: find out what he can do. How about this putting

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Speaker 1: the guard he's a big old sucker. Well, yeah, because

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Speaker 1: the left guarden very good. Well, I don't think he's

636
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: got me back. And he's he talked about a guy

637
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: who looks like he went off the career cliff. He's

638
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: not playing as well. Speaking of young uns, how did

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Speaker 1: Cisco play yesterday? Of the snaps on defense? Getting eyes,

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Speaker 1: open field, tack and nothing stood out to me? Like

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Speaker 1: there was nothing remarkable, nothing bad though either, like I'm

642
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Speaker 1: looking forward to. Just if you're playing on the back end,

643
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Speaker 1: that's good. If it's nothing bad, that's I agree. But

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Speaker 1: I want to go back and watch him, like specifically,

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Speaker 1: because I didn't watch specifically him everybody, Um, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to. While I mean, the thing that stood out

647
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Speaker 1: to me watching our defense is where's Josh Allen? Like

648
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: what happened? Like, where do you go? Josh Allen? Not

649
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: start the game? He did not? Why? I don't know

650
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Speaker 1: I wasn't told it was Smoot and Chase on were

651
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: the starters. That's what I saw when I'm watching the tape.

652
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Speaker 1: I started watching the tape and I saw that, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, he wasn't in on the first two plays

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Speaker 1: of the game. I don't remember how many plays. I

655
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Speaker 1: know it was the first one for sure, that's all

656
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Speaker 1: I know. But where's he gone? And I said, I

657
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Speaker 1: said this this morning, Pe, Why did he I don't know?

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Speaker 1: Why did he start? I don't know, Pete, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: you know you're in the press. Why don't you guys

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Speaker 1: ask the coaches those questions because I'm not there. I

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00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: don't cover that team on a daily j P. Why

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Speaker 1: did you ask the question? Why did he start? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Today was a virtual press. You could have

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Speaker 1: you could ask a question that's embarrassing, JP. You could

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00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: have also, I'm not I have a different role. I'm

666
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Speaker 1: not an interviewer. I'm not a press conference guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: a commentator. I will say I will say this, Josh buddy,

668
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Speaker 1: maybe one of my buddies in the Jacksonal media'll text

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Speaker 1: me right now and they know the answer to that.

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Speaker 1: Why why didn't he start? So, but here's the thing

671
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Speaker 1: I said, this is morning, Peter want your action, because

672
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Speaker 1: the question this morning on Dan Jeff Show is like,

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Speaker 1: where is Josh Allen? Like where did he go? Like

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Speaker 1: he's not been productively And my comment was, I think

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Speaker 1: where I've landed with Josh Allen. Josh Allen's a nice player.

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Speaker 1: He's a good player, like you like he's a positive

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00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: impact on your team. But he's not a difference maker.

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Speaker 1: He's not a guy who's gonna take over the game

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00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: and reek just wreck Havoca. No. No, he's not gonna

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00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: take over the game and dominate. No, Miles Garrett, No,

681
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: he's not that. He's just a nice player. I will

682
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: say this about Josh Allen. He has been on the

683
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Speaker 1: injury report for a number of weeks with a shoulder.

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Speaker 1: Just say everyone's hurt, JP. I'm just saying everyone. He

685
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Speaker 1: was credited with four hurries though I think if I'm

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Speaker 1: not mistaken, which I don't remember, I gotta I haven't

687
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: watched it defensive tape except for the first couple of plays.

688
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Speaker 1: But I watched I did not see. I watched the

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Speaker 1: tape today. I didn't see anything like nothing Like I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he played bad. I'm talking difference maker. I'm

691
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: talking a guy like when you turn on the tape

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Speaker 1: and you play offensive line this league, you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I gotta block that dude. Like you're

694
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: watching tape into the wee hours of the night to

695
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: try to figure out to block that guy. Like I

696
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: remember nine people when we played Buffalo and Bruce Smith

697
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: was defensive Player of the Year. I watched every game

698
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: like grinding, trying to figure out I'm gonna block this

699
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Speaker 1: guy because he was dominant. That's not Josh Allen. That's

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00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett, that's Nick Bosa, that's t J Watt, like

701
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: those guys Joey Bosa, Chandler Joe, like these guys like

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00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: you like watch tape, but you're grinding, like, okay, what

703
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: I need to figure out? Like what does he do?

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00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: That's not Josh Allen right now, I'm just sorry, what

705
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Speaker 1: does he have five and half sacks? That that's I mean,

706
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: he's a good I want him on my team. I'm

707
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: not trying to kick him. Well, don't worry. They got

708
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. They can get another defensive end.

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00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: But be am I wrong with that? I mean, he's

710
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Speaker 1: not a difference. No, he's not. There's here's why. There

711
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: are certain guys that play hard and play tough and

712
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: they'll get you eight or nine sacks a year. Then

713
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: there are guys that are special that play hard and

714
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: play tough and have the physical explosive ability in the

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00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: hands and everything else to get themselves fifteen sacks. Josh

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00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: Allen is more of the first group. He might get

717
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Speaker 1: the nine ten eleven sacks from playing hard, playing tough play.

718
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: He's not gonna explosively blow by people on a continual basis.

719
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Speaker 1: And that's the difference. Like, if he's the second end

720
00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: opposite Myles Garrett, he'd be really a good player. If

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Speaker 1: he was the second end opposite Nick Bosa, he'd be

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Speaker 1: a really dynamic But is he Is he like Crosby

723
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: at the Raiders, He's I mean Crosby's like, that's a

724
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Speaker 1: dude that plays hard and disrupts football games, right see that.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, was he better than way?

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Speaker 1: I think they're like, they're good hard players and that

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00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: you want your team. I don't think they're gonna take

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00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: over games. And I'd argue that Yannique takes over games

729
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: more because he creates fumbles. Yannique is a better pass

730
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: rusher and worst run player. Josh Allen is a better

731
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: run player and the worst pass rush right, But like

732
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: you look at like Max Crosby, Like there's a name

733
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm like everyone says when you're talking about Miles Garrett,

734
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: like the top end guys. Okay, Max Crosby or what's

735
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: the crist what's his first names of? Max? Yeah? Max? Yeah?

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00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: Max Crosby defensive end for the Raiders. The dude just

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Speaker 1: takes over games, like he disrupts. He beats people up.

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Speaker 1: He's hitting the cornerback like you know where he is

739
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: when you sign up, Like when you get on the

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00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: film and you watch you like, um, okay, see whatever

741
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: number he is, number he is, Like we gotta block him,

742
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: like watch him, he's good. I gotta lock him, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't see that in Josh. And that's why I

744
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be this year. All Right, we're

745
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna we're up against it. Peter's let's take a quick

746
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Speaker 1: time out. We'll come back, we'll continue this conversation. Of course,

747
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: we'll get back to the offense. We'll get back to

748
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: the aftermath of the Urban Meyer. Let's go back, back

749
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: and forth, back and forth. That's what we do all

750
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 1: over the place. We're back in a moment. Veterans choose

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00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: v A for the benefits you earned, visit choose dot

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Speaker 1: v A dot gov. And it's Jaguars Happy Hour presented

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Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. What

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00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: are we doing? Pumpkin spice. Pumpkin spice, that's what I smell.

755
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: It's very good. This is the I had so far

756
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: for Elliot. Huh, how's that diet been going well? I

757
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: didn't in all honestly, p JP, this is the first

758
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: thing I've eaten all day today. No breakfast, no lunch, nothing.

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00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: You're withering away. I can't imagine that being true. I'll

760
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: give you my word. Nothing. You're you're you're lying like

761
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: you from that building, Pete, Why would I like? Listen,

762
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: I had crackers and freedoms. It's not like I'm saying

763
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm eating celery and broccoli. I'm eating Freedo's crackers. If

764
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: anybody would be hungry, the definition would be him. But

765
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: whatever reason I got wasn't that angry? Was he because

766
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: I got busy? I got busy, pet Next thing, We've

767
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 1: seen him angry, but this was not that Ryan. Eaton.

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00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try it. I'm gonna try not to eat

769
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: and see if I can just lose weight. If you're

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00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: bitten fasting, if you don't eat till later in the day.

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00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: By the way, there, that's what I did. They're like

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00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: intermediate fast, just eat when you're hungry, your intermediate fast,

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00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: intermediate intermediate intermediate fasting. Tony. Tony is gonna have the

774
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: intermediate fasting diet where he eats every fifteen minute. Oh hey,

775
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: you know we promised when the Jaguars are eliminated from

776
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: playoff contention that we would have a draft segment, and

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00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: here it is. Tonight. The Jaguars are now number one

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00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: and the two draft order. The Detroit Lions knocked off

779
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals to get their second win of the season.

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00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: They are too eleven and one. The Jaguars are now

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00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: two and twelve and they have the inside track to

782
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: the number one pick in the NFL Draft. PA, you

783
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: know that I was watching it all play out in

784
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: front of me yesterday in our green room, and I

785
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: turned to one of my guys and I go, this

786
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: is where I'm different. Than like a guy like Tony

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00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: Masselli tomorrow when I do the show, because I'm sitting

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00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: here thinking, it's actually not a bad thing that they

789
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: lost on day and the Lions one, because now you

790
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: have the number one overall pick again just shaking his head. Well,

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00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: I'll actually see this, Pete. If you're gonna be bad

792
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: and this bad, just stay like, be the worst, because

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00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the first overall picked in the second,

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00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: third or fourth. That way, I can't pick anyone I want.

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Speaker 1: So it's a good thing that they lost on Sunday. Well,

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00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: it depends. It depends where you're sitting. If you're a player, no,

797
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: it's not good. If your coach is not good. I'm

798
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: at the point now. It also depends on who they're picking.

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Speaker 1: Who's doing the picking. I don't know who it is,

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00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: do you? No? I don't either, But and we gotta

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00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: get it. We're gonna get into some of that futures

802
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: talking a second. But as far as the draft, who

803
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: give if I'm gonna try and move it and get

804
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: more picks. Let's say you can't move. You can't move

805
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: it who you're picking. You're stuck with the number one pick? Ah,

806
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: who you pick it. That's for me. It's tough. And

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00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: here's why I think I'm taking Hutchinson. But I worry

808
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: about Hutchinson versus the kid in Oregon because the kid

809
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: in Oregon has so much more athletic ability and and

810
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: bigger I think, or not as big, And he says

811
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: about the same size I think, But Hutchinson he's not

812
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: as tall. But Hutchinson has all the moves and all

813
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: the technique and everything else where. He dominates college lineman.

814
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: But Tony, you would know this better than me. If

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Speaker 1: you have an athletic freak versus a guy with all

816
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: the tricks that knows how to use them, who would

817
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: you rather block? Well, an athletic freak who doesn't know

818
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: how to rush. It's the easy guy to block, in

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00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: my opinion, Like he just goes up the field. But

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00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: what about an athletic freak who knows how to rush

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00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: but he doesn't that's a problem. That's a really good plan.

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Speaker 1: But I've heard Hutchinson's is a really good athlete, like

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00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: he runs four six, great vertical. I heard the kids

824
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: a great athlete. Here's my concern with Hutchinson a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I've watched some of this tape. I love him,

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00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. Where was he I think he

827
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Speaker 1: got hurt in COVID. He got hurt when he had

828
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Speaker 1: COVID last year, he had two years ago. But what

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Speaker 1: he did play, he wasn't as dominant and that always

830
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Speaker 1: worries me a little bit. We have reached the conclusion

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Speaker 1: of our number one plenty more ahead hour two of

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour coming up, presented by Jet Home Loans

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00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. That's really not my focus

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Speaker 1: right now. Right now, I know it's that, you know,

835
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: coachs our head coach and everything else is still intact,

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00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 1: and that's what we're That's what we'll focus on moving

837
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: forward and just trying to get better. You know, I

838
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: thought we um removed the ball out better on offense

839
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: today it's the seven Night direction. But we just gotta

840
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: make plays down the street, you know, and when we

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Speaker 1: need him. Third fourth quarter, UM, I gotta I gotta

842
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: make the throws. Guys that made the catches, it's all

843
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: of us, you know. We gotta make more plays. I

844
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: missed a big throw on third down, UM, eight minutes

845
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: left in the fourth quarter, so um, but I mean

846
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: it was. It was nice to see us moving the

847
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: ball again like we like we were earlier in the year,

848
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: so when that was a step in the night direction,

849
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: but we just gotta we gotta finish. That's Trevor Lawrence

850
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: of course after the game yesterday, and welcome back. It's

851
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon,

852
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco recapping Jaguars lost

853
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans, the first game since the departure

854
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: of head coach Urban Meyer. He was fired late Wednesday

855
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: night Thursday morning, a little after twelve thirty am, and

856
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: the aftermath of that and the remaining days of the

857
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: week led into this game. That's now the sixth consecutive

858
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: loss for the Jaguars, and they've now lost eight in

859
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: a row against the Houston Texans and they were swept

860
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: this year again by the Texans team. This Texans team,

861
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: of all teams, it's a totally different team from Week

862
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: one as well, and they still put thirty on the

863
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: board against the Jags yesterday. Defensive starters were down with

864
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: COVID yesterday for Houston. Special teams struggles for the Jaguars,

865
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: to say the least, the offense was better relative to

866
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: really bad, and the defense had some moments battle around

867
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: right now for the Jags though three games to go. Though,

868
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have the inside track to the number one

869
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: overall pick in the two NFL draft up next a

870
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: quarterback battle the top two from the draft going head

871
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: to head next week and Met Life Stadium Trevor Lawrence

872
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: and the two and twelve Jags Zack Wilson in the

873
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: three and eleven New York Jets Christmas in Jersey? Are

874
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: you done talking it? Yes? That was a long and

875
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: I mean I got really was doing the show? Holy cow, JP, breath,

876
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: It's not the JP show we talk were we talking about? Like?

877
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: You know, you can talk anything else you want to read,

878
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: I'll just you know, sit back and kick back and relax.

879
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: I literally like I was reading Twitter, Pete, and I

880
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: forgot that I was on the show because I'm like,

881
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: JP is just reading for ten minutes. You're hearing what

882
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: were you hearing? I heard my bad, bad, bad bad Charlie.

883
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: We're kidding, JP. I don't know, I'm not I'm not kidding.

884
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: I literally checked out. Actually I thought I was like

885
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: another world and you know what what show is this? Yeah?

886
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: Just kick back, you guys, go for it. I don't worry.

887
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: JP will do it all right, shut off his mike.

888
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: It's cool, man. The missues here. I'm on the desk.

889
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: Does Shot con need an advisor to help him in

890
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: the coaching search? The shot Khan need an advisor? Um?

891
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: I think we all need advisors JP, I mean not

892
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: jppte and JP. UM from the standpoint, I think we

893
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: need individuals that we trust, that we can bounce things

894
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: off of and help us through the process. And so

895
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: if that and um, yeah, so I guess the short

896
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: answers yes. And I think if I was in shot shoes,

897
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: I'd evaluate how I got to this point and do

898
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: it just do it different. And I'm half joking there,

899
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: how many different ways has he done it already? Though?

900
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: I think about that? Well, not half joke, you're not

901
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: half joking. Well, well, here's the thing. Has he done

902
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: it different? He's hired different people, different types, but he's

903
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: been at the centerpiece of making the final call. And

904
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: and now, in fairness, the shot I don't know his process.

905
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone really knows the process of

906
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: and maybe he is listening to people. So this is

907
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: me takes taking some liberties um based on what I know,

908
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: which is not a complete picture, to be clear. So

909
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: he might be. But my perception is, my perception is

910
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: Pete is that he gets people, he interviews them, and

911
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: then he makes the choice. Right, I mean that's I mean,

912
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: that's all we know, at least, I mean JB didn't

913
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: do anything else. That's all I know. Well, let's take

914
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: their Urban Meyer hiring. Okay, there was a little bit

915
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: of an infatuation there. They clearly at one point last

916
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: year decided he was going to be the guy, probably

917
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: earlier than a probably earlier than any of us realized.

918
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: It was during the season, they knew and what led

919
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: him to that. Now I've heard that Trent actually was

920
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: all in favor of it, and I don't know if

921
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: that's true or not. But I and I don't where

922
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: their their connection comes from. So he leaned on Trent

923
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: for that advice. And then once you hear an interview,

924
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: and Urban's track record obviously stood on its own. It's

925
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: not like you need to get convinced of it. Once

926
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: you sit down with him, if you like it, you

927
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: probably hire him. Yeah, but that's where I disagree. Pe

928
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: I hear, let me stop you there. And this is

929
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: where I and I don't know if and he could

930
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: have done this. I don't know if he did or not.

931
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: But I know this. I had a bunch of people

932
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: calling me unsolicited, by the by the way, once it

933
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: got out that we were thinking about hiring Irban Meyer,

934
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: saying that's not a good decision, like don't hire him.

935
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean, so I was getting that now unsolicited. I

936
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: had nothing to do the process, and so I would think,

937
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: and I don't know this, but if I'm shot, I

938
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: am picking up the phone and calling people and diving

939
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: in deep doing the deep dive We've heard that for

940
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: a while, is really asking the questions. No different then,

941
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: like as you, I'm like, when you he made the

942
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: decision to go Trent Balky, is your GM? I mean,

943
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: if it's me, my recommend is like I pick up

944
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: the phone, I start dialing for dollars to figure out.

945
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: I want to know everything about this. And so I

946
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: guess my point of saying this moving forward. If I

947
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: was him, I think like he maybe already has an advisor.

948
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how, I don't I don't know enough

949
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: about the process to speak to that one way or another, Pete.

950
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, I would pick up that phone

951
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: and I'd call and I do a lot of have

952
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: a lot of phone call conversations with people who have

953
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: nothing to gain by like whether no matter what they

954
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: say about the person, Like I want to know the truth.

955
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: Like like if I'm like perfect example, Pete, Like if

956
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go call and like have questions about JP,

957
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call people that know JP, that've worked with JP,

958
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: been around JP, and don't get anything out of JP

959
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: getting the job or not getting the job, Like I

960
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: just want to know, Like tell me, I'll tell you

961
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: about all about JP, all about JP. But you know

962
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: what you mean, Tony. But but I'm gonna give you.

963
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the other side of that. Jimmy

964
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: Johnson came out yesterday I don't know if you saw

965
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: it and defended Urban Meyer. He's friends with him. Jimmy

966
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: Johnson is a respected football guy. If Shot Khan called

967
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, excuse me and said, Hey, I'm thinking about

968
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: hier Irban Meyer, what do you think I want to

969
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: talk to you? Go talk to him? He talks to him,

970
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: he says, Oh, this guy's a great coach. He does this,

971
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: this and this. Well there's a reference if he called Belichick,

972
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: and I know they have utmost respect for Belichick Belichick

973
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: at urban Meyer friendly, excuse me friendly, he'd give a

974
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: good recommendation. So there's two recommendations. Great, I'm gonna how

975
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: ABU gonna call the University of Florida and asked people

976
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: who worked with him every day because guess what, Urban

977
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: Meyer has never worked with Bill Belichick and has never

978
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: worked with Jimmy Johnson, So that's fine. Guess what, they

979
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: don't know Urban Johnson at all. Urban Meyer. They Jimmy

980
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: Johnson like knew him from afar and like probably went

981
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: to some dinners like awards ceremonies and hung out drink

982
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: like they don't know him. Like, go call the people

983
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: who worked with them, Go call the secretary, Like I'll

984
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: never forget John Robinson, my coach at USC the last

985
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: couple of years. He said, like he said something that's

986
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: stuck into me forever. And he had like and I've

987
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: said this story for he had like three rules, play hard,

988
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: be on time. And the third rule was the thing

989
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 1: that impacted me the most. He says, you better treat

990
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: everybody in the building with respect, and you better treat

991
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: the secretary in the same way you treat me, and

992
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: you better seat the janitor the same way you treat me,

993
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: because if you don't, that tells me who you are,

994
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: and I don't want you on my team. I tell

995
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: that stories. Go call the people that urban Meyer worked

996
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: with every day, and what do they say about him.

997
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: Not with Jimmy Johnson, and I like Jimmy Johnson and

998
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, great coach. They never have worked with him.

999
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: They don't know. And I'll and I'll go one step

1000
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: further with the same kind of line of thinking about respect.

1001
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: The people in the building treat him with respect. Every

1002
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: personnel guy and scout I've ever talked to says when

1003
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: they go to a school, they don't want to get

1004
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: the information from what the coach will say because he's

1005
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: gonna pump the guy up. He wants him to get

1006
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: to the NFL. It helps him. They go talk to

1007
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: the strength coach, they go talk to the secretaries, counsel,

1008
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: talked to the support staff, they talked to uh, the

1009
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: cafeteria workers. That's where you find out all about the guy,

1010
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: and so Tony, you are spot on. They should have

1011
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,479
Speaker 1: went to Florida, they should have went to Ohio State,

1012
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: they should have won a bunch of different places. Talk

1013
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: to agents people and how is he when you deal

1014
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: with them, and they would have found out what everybody

1015
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville found out when he was inside the building.

1016
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: He makes people miserable. I mean, I'm just saying. I mean,

1017
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a handful of conversations that when

1018
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: this was all happening last year. I mean, I'm not

1019
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: part of the process, and people would call me. I'm like, dude,

1020
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: why are you calling me? I got nothing to do

1021
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: with this, But I mean, they give me your opinions.

1022
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: It wasn't always very flattering, which is fine. I mean,

1023
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with asking Jimmy Johnson or Bill Belichick.

1024
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: But that's just one perspective. And that's perspective. And here's

1025
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: the other thing. You understand a lot of time about coaches.

1026
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: Coaches don't like bad mouthing other coaches. It's like doctors

1027
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: ever go ask the doctor about another doctor like they

1028
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: doctors will never say anything bad about another doctor because

1029
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: they don't want to come blown back on them, and

1030
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: so asking Jimmy Johnson or Bill Belichick about urban Meyer,

1031
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: they're not I mean they don't know him. I mean

1032
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: like like the day to day and they're probably not

1033
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: gonna just rip the guy because like they have this

1034
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: little community, this will fraternity. So I agree with Pete

1035
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: when I said, go ask, go ask the guys that go,

1036
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: ask people who have to work with these individuals every day,

1037
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: and whoever you hire next do the same deep deep die.

1038
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: You know we're joking about deep dive, but that's exactly

1039
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: what it is. But who does he get to do it?

1040
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: That's the quite. He needs somebody to guide him first

1041
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: and form If Trent Balky is not going to be

1042
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: part of the team, and we don't know that, but

1043
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: if he's not, then you need somebody to step in

1044
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: that's going to lead the process. And so how do

1045
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: you do you hire a guy who can hire and

1046
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: advise you on hiring your coach and GM together, or

1047
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: do you do you hire the GM and then he

1048
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: hires the coach. There's a lot of things that play

1049
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: in there that you have to decide how you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do it. But he needs somebody to advise him and

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Speaker 1: it's not Trent. It can't be Trent. If Trent advised

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Speaker 1: him on urban Meyer, which you hear he did, then

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00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: then I think you can't be Trent. So it has

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00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: to be somebody on the outside. So do you hire

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Speaker 1: a former personnel guy, a coach head coach Tony Dungee's

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Speaker 1: name has been mentioned somebody along those lines. I just

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00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: think he needs somebody to lean on with football background

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Speaker 1: to help him get through the process. When we return,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it real. We haven't even started to

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Speaker 1: keep it real yet. Jaguars Game Day Radio is brought

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. I mean, I thought there was I

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Speaker 1: thought there were things that we did better today. You know, Um,

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Speaker 1: there was. There was a little bit of explosions you

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00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: were able to find, you know, find guys. We were

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Speaker 1: in a creatin space for some people. But again we

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Speaker 1: just said we did there's opportunities to make plays. We

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Speaker 1: didn't make some of them. And we've got to catch

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Speaker 1: the ball. We gotta throw the ball, um, you gotta

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00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta protect better and we'll be we'll

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Speaker 1: be able to find it, find the in zone. But

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Speaker 1: it's just it's on up continued improved. It's Daryl Bevil

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Speaker 1: after the game yesterday at Jaguars lost to the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans and welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. J P

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Speaker 1: Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli is rubbing his face, was

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Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna make it. It's been one of

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Speaker 1: those afternoons already. Well, it's just we're just awful on

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Speaker 1: offense and we were not getting better. And they like

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Speaker 1: and what Daryl Bebel SAIDs right, and we gotta catch

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01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: the ball. You gotta throw it more accurately, gonna block.

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Speaker 1: There's just no juice. There's no juice on that side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. What do you think of the decision

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01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: to change make Brian Schottenheimer played, What can it hurt?

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Speaker 1: Go for it? Try it? I mean does it matter?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean if it makes it easier for

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Speaker 1: Daryl Bebel to manage the sound, manage the whole game. Sure,

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Speaker 1: If I'm Darryl Bebel, I'm not doing it. Though. When

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Speaker 1: they come out and score thirty a game, you'll never

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Speaker 1: be an offensive coordinator again. And they are playing. They

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Speaker 1: are playing a bad defense this week. By the way,

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Speaker 1: what if they just like like a pinball machine in

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Speaker 1: the Wait a minute, what this beel guy been doing where?

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Speaker 1: Not even in the hole time? Maybe maybe he can

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01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: cut down on the little bubble screens to channel from

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Speaker 1: five to two or something per game. Yeah, I don't know, wow,

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Speaker 1: but I mean it doesn't matter. I mean they're not

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Speaker 1: How much can you change in one week? And you

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Speaker 1: are who you are at this? All? Right? This the

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Speaker 1: opening drive on I thought the opening drive look great.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, you gotta do your your keeping it real well.

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Speaker 1: This this leads us into the keeping It Real conversation

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Speaker 1: haven't gotten anything out of it all, yeah, piece, it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, no liquor has been sending my way. That's wine,

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Speaker 1: which means you're the ones you're going to give out

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Speaker 1: a Christmas too late. I'm in trouble. You guys all

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Speaker 1: know why you're not getting your Christmas. President Bob didn't

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Speaker 1: send me Santa Claus ain't coming to town. So this

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Speaker 1: is kind of our topic here. I know we interrupted

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Speaker 1: you there, but who are your offensive pillars right now?

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Speaker 1: Who do you build around on the offensive side of

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Speaker 1: the football? Moving ahead, no matter who's picking, whatever is

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Speaker 1: going on, who are the guys that are Trevor Lawrence,

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01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: you believe in Trevor Lawrence, James Robinson, Cam Robinson even

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Speaker 1: still yeah, franchise him. Yeah, I mean, I think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to find go look around left tackles, and

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Speaker 1: this week we've we've gone through this. It's not I'm

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Speaker 1: building around. That's it. Pete quarterback left tackle for the

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Speaker 1: right price. Running back is part of the running game,

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Speaker 1: but I need some I need speed back there. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying he's a guy, he's on your roster and got

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Speaker 1: Etn coming off. None of the other guys Ben bart

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Speaker 1: is on your roster. Tone that I'm just building around,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay, Yeah, But like I might, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna upgrade right guard if I can. Like

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Speaker 1: the way I look at the question you ask, like,

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Speaker 1: where am I like going in next year? I feel

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Speaker 1: like I've got three starters correct, But like I think Ben,

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Speaker 1: I'll say differently. Do I think Ben Bart's started, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Ben Barts can start. Like my guess is, unless you

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Speaker 1: go find someone else like Jwan Taylor is gonna be

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Speaker 1: your starting right tackle next year unless someone can be

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Speaker 1: about I mean, finding offensive lignment is not easy, and

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Speaker 1: you have a bunch of stuff, you know, here's something Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an example. Though. You watch the

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Speaker 1: game Sunday night. The Saints played without their starting tackles

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Speaker 1: and a backup guard, and they just totally did everything

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01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: they could have gett A good defense protected him and

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01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: he had time at times and it wasn't a disaster.

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01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: Why is that Tony good coaching? Good scheme. You run

1144
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: the ball, take the pass, rush out, you play action pass,

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01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: you move the pocket, you change the launch point. So

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01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: it's guys can't tee off. I mean, I can give

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01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: you a lot of things you can do. Differently, they

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01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: haven't gotten any better the offensive line. Joan Taylor has

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01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: got in the wrong direction. Andrew Norwell, I think he's

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01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: hit the goodbye career over ledge and he's done. I

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01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: think Brandon Linder is uh is basically washed up. Um,

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01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: I mean not washed up, but he can't sit down

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Speaker 1: the field. That's my concern with him, right and and

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Speaker 1: the right guard has moments where he looks like he

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Speaker 1: could be a good solid guard. He does. Okay, But

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this question. Is there any receiver

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Speaker 1: you're that you are not against like that, you're not

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Speaker 1: trying to upgrade for the next any any tight ends

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Speaker 1: you're not the game? No, Okay, in the on Sunday

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Speaker 1: and I said four or five, let me finish. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So there's not every you're gonna try it upgrade every receiver.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna try to upgrade every tight end. Tell me

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Speaker 1: the offensive line positions that you're not gonna try it

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Speaker 1: upgrade left tackle. You're gonna keep your left hand, keeping Cam. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for the right price. Because what I'm saying, but you're like,

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Speaker 1: you're not actively going to Joe try and find another

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Speaker 1: left tackle. No, No, you would. You would try and

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Speaker 1: keep him for if the money got out of whack,

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Speaker 1: you go try and find a left tackle. Fair enough,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming. I mean, if you had the franchise and

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Speaker 1: again it's fifteen million bucks or seventeen million bucks next franchise,

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Speaker 1: that's he's gonna be my left tackle. This Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: my point. You can't because here's the thing. You can't

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Speaker 1: fix everything, Like you literally have to put some plugs

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Speaker 1: in saying we're going with this guy. We're like going there.

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Speaker 1: But this is what the bill. Would you consider the

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman with the first overall pick? Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 1: They kid from Alabama is the real deal. Evan Neil,

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Speaker 1: Evan Neil. Let me tell you what I'm doing, Pete.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the best players because I don't have enough

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Speaker 1: good ones. I don't what if a receiver was the

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Speaker 1: best player, you wouldn't take it first? Well maybe why not?

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't like that idea. You

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Speaker 1: wouldn't take it back for her, you would take it

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Speaker 1: back first. Well, there's never gonna be a back that's

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Speaker 1: the best player. Well, he could be the best player,

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Speaker 1: he's just not gonna have the most value. That's my point. Well,

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Speaker 1: best player value, Like like, I'm taking the guy that

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Speaker 1: brings the most value to my team. That's has to

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Speaker 1: be a good player. For example, if Jonathan Taylor was

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Speaker 1: in the draft, I'm not taking in the draft because

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Speaker 1: he's a more value. Doesn't mean Pete, but this is

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Speaker 1: where you go. Let me tell you how it goes.

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Speaker 1: You know this, Come on, you draft quarterback, you draft,

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Speaker 1: affect the quarter back, you draft, protect the quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: then you and then you know you have and then

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Speaker 1: you know you draft to quarterbacks passes down the corner.

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Speaker 1: But no, I mean, I'm telling my order because you

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Speaker 1: know what, if you affect the quarterback, you can play

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Speaker 1: with inferior dbs. Go tell me the four who are

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Speaker 1: the four starting dvs for the Giants when they killed

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Speaker 1: Brady and ended their undefeated season. You can't tell me.

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Speaker 1: You know, you could tell me. You can tell me

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Speaker 1: the front four that we're getting after him. But but Tony,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, yes, okay, you listen. Tell you fix it.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you fix it. Quarterback, affect the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: protect the quarterback speed on offense. That's it. Go do that,

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Speaker 1: you'll be okay. No, it's it's a five pronged approach.

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Speaker 1: Now it used to be four prong gets the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: knocked down the quarterback, protect the quarterback, knocked down, the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks passes, and now it's catch them with speed. It's

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Speaker 1: the game has changed. It never used to be a receiver. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: I take My point is I'm putting beat in front

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Speaker 1: of your knocking down the quarterback's ball because I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have a pass rush. It's gonna be knocking the guy's

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Speaker 1: head off. He's not gonna going to throw it. But

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Speaker 1: how good would your defense if you had Jalen behind

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Speaker 1: the pass rush like that? Why, I've talked to defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinators that I respect, and they say, you know, what

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Speaker 1: makes a great back half is a great front four. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm let me tell you what. There's

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Speaker 1: a theory out there now that the secondary is more important.

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Speaker 1: I don't buy it, hey, because because here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: Pete go remember the forty nine when solo two years

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Speaker 1: ago they went to the Super Bowl and Richard Shermon

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Speaker 1: was old and couldn't run, but was all Pro or

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl? Right? Are U s anyone on that step?

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Speaker 1: They were great on the back half because they had

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Speaker 1: four dudes who could get after the quarterback and you

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Speaker 1: never had time back there. I'm with you that the

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Speaker 1: most important positions are quarterback and knocking him down and

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Speaker 1: then protecting the quarterback. And then I'm my only thing

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Speaker 1: is I'm not saying the secondary is not important, but

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Speaker 1: I need guys who can run outside on offense safety speeded.

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Speaker 1: I need speed on offense speed and not just straight

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Speaker 1: line speed. I need suddenness. I need like make you miss, like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you're in the open field. I'm scared

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Speaker 1: to death. You're going to the house. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's only a very few of that. I'll take. I'll

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Speaker 1: take Deebo, Samuel Speed, I'll take um, I'll take what's

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Speaker 1: I'll take Seedee Lamb Speed, I'll take. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: there's a plenty of mouth justin Jefferson. You gotta go

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Speaker 1: with those guys in the first round. Though, Okay, maybe

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01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: I trade like I'm like I'm with Pete if I

1245
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: could trade back if I had the first overall pick,

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01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: unless like one of those guys just jumps off at

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Speaker 1: the page and I just have to have him, like

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Speaker 1: he's a difference maker. Trade back to five or six

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Speaker 1: if you can, and go get a receiver. You need

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01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: speed now, But I haven't done anywhere. I mean, it's

1251
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: not like we've done work. Maybe Hutchinson's like the like

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01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: the next Nick Bosa. Well, then guess what, I'm taking

1253
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: them number one. And by the way, the free agent

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01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: market if receivers got a hit last night with Chris Godward,

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Speaker 1: Terry's a c L. I thought it was his m

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01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: c L they had, so he's out for the yearn

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01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: who I read? Because this afternoon the first report was

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Speaker 1: m c L. Right, and then they went they did

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01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: another test and it was the A c L. Yeah,

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01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: that's not good. So that was Keeping it Real presented

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01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Open up a winner today,

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01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: Real Ingredients Award winning one by Robert Mundavi. And I think, um,

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01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 1: we kept it real with a really long list of

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01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: things on offense. Yeah, there's a lot of holes. Let's

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01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: come back in social media questions. They'll cheer us all up.

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01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: It always does. Sony he loves him, love it, Pete

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01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: loves him. We all love them. It's Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy

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01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: Hour and it's time for social media questions. We put

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01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: the bat signal out each Monday on Twitter. Here's the

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01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: best we've come up with. Today's a lot by the

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01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: way at Duvall Underscore twenty four. I know James Robinson

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01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: is a fan favorite. I't like him too, but why

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01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: does he look so slow? A few runs he has

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01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: on the outside looked like it took him fifteen minutes

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: to try to turn the corner, which he didn't. Pete, well,

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01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say that's something I was getting

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01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: into when we talked about core players. James Robinson is

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01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: a good running back. He's a he's a grinder. But

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01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: they don't they need and they have et M so

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01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: obviously he's on the roster when he comes back from injury.

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01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: But they need an explosive player at the running back position.

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01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: And there were times on Sunday where there were holes

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01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: and it looked like he should add more than what

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01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 1: he had. They beat up and they dropped et In

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01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: by the way, got hurt. But James beat up to

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01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: He's got a heel and knee. It's not I mean,

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01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 1: the kid was averaging over five yards and carry. He's

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01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 1: a good runner. To what you just said is nonsense.

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01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 1: You're going in. I mean, listen, you're falling for the

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01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: same trapper. Obviously, No, I'm not. I think he's a

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01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: good back, but you need a change of pace, explosive back,

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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: and they don't have that right now, Well, that's fair

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01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: but that is I mean, James Robson's a starting NFL back.

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01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: If you average five yards and carry, you're starting back.

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01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: But now, if you would have told me you made

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01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: the comment, if you'd have made the comment like he's

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01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: mark Ingram and you need Alvin Kamara with him, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's fair.

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01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 1: That's what they thought they had. I think, Um, yeah,

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01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm not. I didn't see that in camp. By the way,

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01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: there was nothing in camp that say that was the

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01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: plan we were told. I get that, and I hope

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01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: it's the plan. That's right. I just didn't see it

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01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: in camp, did you no? No? Question number two social media.

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 1: We're often running on this one at Carnival. Thomas question

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01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: for both Pete why would Tony make a terrible head coach?

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01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: And Tony why would Pete make a terrible head coach? JP?

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01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: Who would be worse? Well, Pete couldn't be a head

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01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: Answer first, Pete could not be to make a terrible

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01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: head coach because his emotions are all over the place.

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01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: He can't handle losing. He'd be a bad loser. He

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01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: could never be able to have a hard time. Moving

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01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: on to the next games to get emotional on the sidelines,

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01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: training thought on the sidelines, Helly, he wouldn't be on time,

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01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: His meetings would start late. He wouldn't be a good

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01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: head coach. That sounds familiar. That's not accurate at all.

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01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: Outside I would have a hard time getting over losing.

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: That's true, but I can move on um. Pete couldn't

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01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,600
Speaker 1: be a head coach because he'd be too worried about like,

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01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: we need to be more creative. I need more bunches.

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01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: I need more like picks, rob rub picks rub, need

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01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: more more of that. And he doesn't know anything else,

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01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: and he forget that you actually have to run the

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01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 1: ball and walk people that you just can't rob little

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01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 1: circles on the sideline, say rob here, pick here, bunch, bunch, bunch,

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01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 1: because he doesn't know anything. Yes, I do. I know

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01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: that you can do that because they've done done it

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01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: before a couple of times. I've had success with it,

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01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: So do it. I gotta say I'm siding with Pete

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01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: on this one. That Tony would lose his mind on

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01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: the sideline and lose. So you're saying, wait, yeah, I

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01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: think so. I think so. You're an idiot it's it's

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01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: it's I'll be honest from a football point, I picked

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01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: the CLI too because he's been there and done it,

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01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: and he knows what it takes to win, and he

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01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: understands how a team is built and he understand. But

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01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: the other side will give him about fifty five demerits

1339
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: for every positive that he Yeah, you know what I mean.

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01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: I mean. My problem would be, here's my problem. If

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01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: I'm in a game and my kicker has a kick

1342
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: to tie the game late and it's from thirty five

1343
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: yards and he misses it, I'm old school. I might

1344
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: want to grab his helmet and give him a choke.

1345
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: You know you've just thrown around and I can't do that.

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01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: Make your damn kick. I'd want to make. Even Pete

1347
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: agrees with me that I'd be better. You're an idiot.

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01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: You chose the guy that didn't even choose himself. I

1349
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: would say, for the soundbites only, I would pick Pete

1350
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: first of all, Pete? How great? Pete? How great would

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01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: it be if I was head coaching you were in

1352
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,560
Speaker 1: the press during a press conference? How much would you

1353
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: enjoy that? Oh? I make you cry? You'd want to

1354
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: come after me standing for TV. Al right, next question

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01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: social media. We are rolling now at nine oh four

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01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: and more at this point, is there anything to fix

1357
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: the undisciplined penalties off season? An off season? I mean,

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01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: I mean they keep on making mistakes where they extend

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01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: drives and give up points. I mean they were three

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01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: and out on the opening drive out of the gate

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01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like it was a little hands in

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01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: the face. He ripped his help off. What are we doing?

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01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: How many? How many? How many? Where do they ranking?

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01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: Penalties were compared to the rest of the league. That's

1365
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: an interesting question. And where do they rank and penalties

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01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: compared to the all time penalized teams? Tony, I told

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01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: you this your team's back in the day. Better Pete

1368
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: the better stat if you could find it. How many

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01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: penalties does this team have that extended drives that are

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01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: basically like turnovers like that one the hands of the face,

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01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: that's a turnover. You're giving the ball back to them.

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01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: Mhm awful. They've done that in some form or fashion

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01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: A lot, a lot awful. All right. Next, it's not

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01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: just the penalty, it's when you do it like so,

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01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 1: it's one of the things you can't have dumb team

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01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: can't be a dumb like dumb football. They just beat

1377
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: you every time. Dumb football kills you at Devil X Jaguars.

1378
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: An next question, why do we make the easy things

1379
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: look difficult and the hard things look impossible? For years

1380
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: we've had the same problems, no matter the staff. What's

1381
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: the solution? Are Trevor's problems fixable? He just doesn't playing well?

1382
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: Also getting no help, Love you guys, Merry Christmas. That's

1383
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 1: a lot. That's a lot to digest, a lot of

1384
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: mood swings there. So I guess the main question is

1385
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: why I think so hard? Because when you're a bad

1386
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: football team, everything's hard. And we're a bad football team

1387
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: right now. And you know, at the end of the day,

1388
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: how do I say, you almost kid what you deserve?

1389
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: You pick. If you pick the wrong people and you

1390
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: have the wrong people leading, you're not gonna have success.

1391
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think it's pretty clear that urban

1392
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: Meyer was not the right guy. Yeah, but you know

1393
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 1: what though, Tony, he had that quarterback competition in the summer.

1394
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: Help builds. Yeah, I mean, I mean, looking back on that,

1395
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: that might well, people, here's the thing, just a little

1396
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: hand at how much garbage was in that building and

1397
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: that give me a break quarterback. Yeah, we're gonna have

1398
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: a competition to see are you kidding? You? And I

1399
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: thought it. That was one of the first things you

1400
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 1: and I talked about it. We weren't as direct on

1401
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: the air because you know, early we're trying to be

1402
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: support supportive, but you and I talked about like how

1403
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: ridiculous that was, Like how taking away reps from your

1404
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: starting quarterback to do some facade, have some facade out there. No,

1405
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 1: wait a second, you weren't as direct on the air.

1406
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: You're right, but my points you and I had all

1407
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: we had conversations about it. No, you're right, we did.

1408
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: We had a lot of conversations. By the way, penalty wise,

1409
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: there are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven

1410
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: teams with more penalties than Jacksonville and there fourth in

1411
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: the league and pre snap penalty so a lot of

1412
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: pre snap mistakes too. Yeah, I would love it, would

1413
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: be great, would be great. Someone actually did some homework

1414
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: and like how many of the penalties extended drives, Like

1415
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: they're off the field and extended to drive. M not pretty?

1416
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: You know that. Next question social media, they're rolling in

1417
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 1: to night at Zach Bierman. What are teams doing to

1418
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: take Josh Allen out of the game and should he

1419
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: be able to overcome that given he was drafted to

1420
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: be a premier pass rusher. Well, of course, we've talked

1421
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: about this. I'm not seeing anything. There's no like purposeful

1422
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 1: like running guys at him, trying to double them. I

1423
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:02,560
Speaker 1: ain't They're just blocking them. I've not seen you said it.

1424
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: We're worth blocked him when they played him a couple

1425
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. He ran because he ran line into him. Pete.

1426
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: He had a four year old who struggles to bend

1427
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: his knees and isn't really moving that. Get on the edge,

1428
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: make him move his feet, go speed to power. Change

1429
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: it up. Hey, Pete, we're on the showing. Here's the

1430
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: other thing. Here's the other thing. It's not like a

1431
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: chipping them and doubling them as if you were paying attention.

1432
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: It's what I just said. You're too busy looking around

1433
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: your office and who never came in. Literally what I said,

1434
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: you didn't say exactly that I didn't pay attention. Pay

1435
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: attention to the show, Pete, like I do every day,

1436
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: every segment of every show. Tony Boselly Pete is locked in.

1437
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what he was late tonight. He

1438
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: was locked in when he showed up. I let you

1439
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: know as to be late first of all, so I'm

1440
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: not late if I tell you, I mean we but

1441
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: but j P. We can forgive him for being late

1442
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: tonight because he had that consultation and meeting about becoming

1443
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: the general. Did not. That's a lie peak. Stop saying

1444
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: that that's not funny. You're gonna get me in trouble.

1445
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: That's not true. Kidding. Everybody knows I'm kidding. I don't know.

1446
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: People sometimes based on some of the tweets weekend in

1447
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: social media, I think some people think you're serious until Twitter.

1448
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: Jaguars look at Baseli for no, no, no, they have

1449
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,560
Speaker 1: a GM. Trent Baldon is the GM. Just imagine in

1450
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 1: this zoom interview today he wore the Lumberjack shirt. Now

1451
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 1: that's bold, that would be bold lumberjack. It's kind of

1452
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 1: it's kind of lumberjack ish. Was was it? Was it

1453
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: for football? Are you doing a game this week or something?

1454
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: What I'm doing the game? I'm doing the Titans game

1455
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 1: Thursay night of Nashville. Okay, it's a good game, Titans. Titans,

1456
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: Hey they tied. They're only a game, game and a

1457
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: half ahead of the Colts. Now here they come. Jimmy

1458
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is playing good football. Buck one another social media question,

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01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,560
Speaker 1: keep them rolling in here at rich Ato. If the

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01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: teams were open to it, would you trade the first

1461
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: overall pick from Mike Tomlin or Sean Payton? No? No, no,

1462
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: first overall? No second round? Sure, when's the last time

1463
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: that happened? Was that Bill? Bill Belichick? Didn't Gruden get Yeah?

1464
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 1: Gruden Tampa Beta, Oakland, Oakland Raiders, Tampa. I know, I

1465
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: know Belichick got traded from the Jets, the Patriots or

1466
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: Patriots and Jets whatever it was back then. Yeah, yeah,

1467
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: um well yeah, what is it? Would you give up that?

1468
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: Would you give a second round or ever Sean Payton

1469
01:22:54,200 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: or Mike Tollin, Yes, I would do. I would do. Wow, Terab,

1470
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: what's not good? Why are you? Why are you still

1471
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,560
Speaker 1: wearing the cards? I want to prove that it's not

1472
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: a lumberjack. It's more of like a like it's like

1473
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: a surfer. God, I'm at the beach in California's little

1474
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: chili just out of the water. Just's California. I was

1475
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: hanging in California. I was hanging tan, hanging tan on

1476
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: my board. That's the biggest surfboard in the history of surfboards. Yeah,

1477
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: so they gotta keep warm your little chili. One more

1478
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: social media question at Reno High Tower, twenty one jags

1479
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: of the playoffs in four over or under? I say

1480
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: under under. We'll get a coach in there that knows

1481
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 1: what they're doing. They'll be under for sure. Maybe next year.

1482
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: Next year. I was next year, he said next year. No. Look,

1483
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: I thought they'd be in the playoff. I thought they

1484
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 1: have a real shot to be in the playoffs in

1485
01:23:54,920 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 1: twenty two. They're not. There's no way. I say three yeah, okay.

1486
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, if Trevor Lawrence isn't the real deal,

1487
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: they won't be in the playoffs until so get used

1488
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: to that. If he's not, that'll do it for social

1489
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: media questions. One a way to bring us down. We'll

1490
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: come back in a moment. Fred Taylor. We're gonna hear

1491
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: from him coming up. No, no, no, we we had

1492
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 1: him on post game yesterday with some comments about a

1493
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: certain somebody on this program taking shots. We'll find out.

1494
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: I hope they'll go around the NFL in just a moment.

1495
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 1: You don't want to miss this. It's Jaguars Happy Hour

1496
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour,

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01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Bosella. Yesterday on Jaguars

1498
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: Post Game on the Jaguars Radio Network, Mike Dempsey, Fred

1499
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: Taylor and I had some final thoughts before we closed

1500
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 1: out the show. It was a little boxing conversation. Frank

1501
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 1: Gore was in the boxing ring the other day. Fred

1502
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: Taylor knows him. Well. Here's how the show ended yesterday

1503
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: on Jaguars Radio. So the day after Christmas, it's the

1504
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: Jaguars and the New York Jets at MetLife Stadium a

1505
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: one o'clock kickoff time December in week number sixteen, Fred,

1506
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 1: Great to see you. What's gonna w next week? Christmas? Yeah?

1507
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: I wish I was out there. I mean we'll get

1508
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: a w you wish you were out there? So yeah, yeah,

1509
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 1: ten years removed, I can do. All these guys are

1510
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 1: boxing late and I can still front of the ball

1511
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: twelve carries or maybe eight? Would you ever consider boxing? No?

1512
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 1: But I will come on a fight though, if you

1513
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: if you did considera like, who would you like to

1514
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: get a piece of in the ring? Um? Probably Pete Prisco.

1515
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 1: I'll tell Pete all the time he started the fragile

1516
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: Fred thing, but he says he did. But Peter's my guy.

1517
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: You know, we we've developed the friendship. But I like,

1518
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: put him in there with no head gear and nothing.

1519
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: Let me just bang him up. Sure you have the

1520
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: height and reach advantage, that's for sure. Oh for sure.

1521
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: I just hit him like King Cooper Mike Tyson, just

1522
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: belly shots all day. Oh that was classic Fred Taylor yesterday.

1523
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: Pete about it? You know he I'm bringing him into

1524
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: our studio in a couple of weeks to do something

1525
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: with with Ray Lewis, to help him try and get

1526
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I might cancel that. Look, Fred's kidding.

1527
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: We have a great relationship. He's one of my favorite

1528
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: guys that ever covered. And uh and I did not

1529
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 1: start fragile Fred. I promise you I did not start Fred.

1530
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: I am guilty of one thing back and walked up

1531
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 1: to friend when he was a young player, and I

1532
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: tricked him into saying he could rush for two thousand

1533
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 1: yards in a season by saying, hey, Fred, you know

1534
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 1: these guys have a role rush for two thousand yard?

1535
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: Do you think you can get there? Oh? I get

1536
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: the two thousand yards. And I had my head, lie

1537
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: Fred oller, I could rush for two thousand and so

1538
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: I that was I did do that. But I the

1539
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: fragile Fred was not me because I I am one

1540
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 1: of the few guys around that team that took up

1541
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 1: for him, because I know a bad that growing was

1542
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: ripped off the bone and Coughlan listed him at week

1543
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 1: the week, every single week, which was it was not

1544
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: unfair to Fred Taylor. I still like to see put

1545
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: you in the boxing ring. No, you would, he'd beat

1546
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: daylights out. But I fight though. Let's go around the

1547
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: National Can I bring? Can I bring like a baseball

1548
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: bat in there or something you need? You need all

1549
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: the help you can get. Yeah, that's right, Fred can

1550
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: bring he can bring it. Let's go around the NFL hits,

1551
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: some scores, some highlights. Chargers fell to the Chiefs on Thursday,

1552
01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 1: the Colts over the Patriots. Saturday, the Bills knocked off

1553
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: the Panthers fourteen. The Lions we mentioned them earlier. A

1554
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 1: fullback touchdown Dan Miller with a call of courtesy of

1555
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: w x y T FM N on the ticket and

1556
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions radio network. Stop takes, turns, fakes the gift,

1557
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: rolls right, grows Tut's touch down, Detroit Lions hard run,

1558
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 1: fake left off, roll right, found's full back and the

1559
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: Lions have added to that lead. What a win for

1560
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: the Lions feet The Jaguars lost, so their number one

1561
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: in the draft order. Now the Lions get their second win. Yeah,

1562
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: and you know what, that was a bad showing for Arizona.

1563
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 1: That's a bad loss. That that can't happen quick thing.

1564
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask Tony if he knew this. They

1565
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: showed Brunell on the sideline during the game and he

1566
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,759
Speaker 1: had a play sheet. Was he called him plays on Sunday?

1567
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, Dan Campbell calls place. Yeah,

1568
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I might have to go. You might have to ask

1569
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: he's had a play sheet all year? They because he's no.

1570
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 1: He looked like he was engaged, and I'm telling him,

1571
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: maybe it was called bass plays. I'll bet you anything

1572
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: you want, Pete. He was not calling place. I know,

1573
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't, but it looked like he was more

1574
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 1: involved than that. But hey, maybe that's what would be

1575
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 1: a good thing for Brunell. You can hired Kevin O'Connell's

1576
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: being the head coach and bring Brunell back to Jackson

1577
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,560
Speaker 1: will be the offensive coordinator. Would you hire here's a

1578
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: question for we didn't talk about this next head coach.

1579
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 1: Does he need to have head coach NFL head coaching

1580
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:46,600
Speaker 1: experience for you to hire? Nope? Would you would you

1581
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:51,560
Speaker 1: favor a guy who had head coaching experience? Nope? I

1582
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: think you need to be I have been a play

1583
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,719
Speaker 1: caller at some point. I think I think I would

1584
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 1: at this point. You know why. I think you need

1585
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: like somebody who's done it before, like place like you

1586
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 1: need to get it back on track, and like I'd

1587
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 1: worry about a young guy who's never a young guy

1588
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: who's never done it before, Pete, I'd worry about. So

1589
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: you just narrowed it down to a guy like Josh McDaniels,

1590
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 1: because I didn't just eliminated Byron Left which I just

1591
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 1: eliminated Kellnmore, you just eliminated Kevin O'Connell. You just eliminated Todd.

1592
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: Odd Bowls could be a possibility Todd Bowls. You didn't

1593
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,719
Speaker 1: listen to what I said, I'm not saying I eliminate anyone.

1594
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 1: I would lean towards like somebody who's not been head

1595
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,919
Speaker 1: coach before, like a Byron left with Kevin O'Connell or Kullenmore.

1596
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 1: They would have to blow my socks off for me

1597
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 1: not to go with a guy that had experienced like

1598
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 1: a Todd Bowls or a um or Doug Peterson or

1599
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel or Jim Calwell or whoever's out there that

1600
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: has experience. Some more games around the NFL, Dolphins over

1601
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 1: the Jets thirty one four, Cowboys beat the Giants twenty

1602
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: one six. The Steelers over the Titans. The Steelers are

1603
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 1: covered a fumble Bill hill Grove on one or two

1604
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 1: point five w d V and the Steelers radio network.

1605
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: He steps in, We're the one back, look at a slot,

1606
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 1: right tight end, right read deploys to the left side

1607
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: of the formation. Oh, I fumbled a snap. It's there,

1608
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 1: and a big paddle up and the standers say they

1609
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 1: have it. Who has the ball? The fumbled snap ends

1610
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: up in standler's hand. Yes, yes, yes, fired up. Steelers

1611
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 1: win it. The Titans, who they'll get a little shaky

1612
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 1: in the a f C South right now, we lost

1613
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 1: four and five. I told I said here first, Pete said,

1614
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 1: there's no chance to here come the Colts. Three games left,

1615
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: one two games back. Would surprise you? Who do the

1616
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Colts have this week? Stand by? You think you you

1617
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 1: really think in three games they're gonna blow They're gonna

1618
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 1: blow that culture at Arizona, Okay, culture in Arizona, Okay,

1619
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: would surprised you have the cold to beat the Arizona Cardinals,

1620
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: who were going the wrong way? Okay? The proj hold

1621
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 1: on who's who's Who's Week six? Who's Week seventeen for

1622
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 1: the Colts at the home against the Raiders at Cardinals

1623
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 1: at Cardinals home against the Raiders at the Jaguars for

1624
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: the Colts. And the Titans have the Texans. The Titans

1625
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: have to win one game, that's right, No, they have

1626
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:29,680
Speaker 1: to win two. Sorry, they know if they lose. If

1627
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: the Titans win one of the next three and the

1628
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 1: Colts win all three, the Colts win the division because

1629
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: they won the Titans. Titans win one and the Colts

1630
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 1: lose one, they win the division. That's Titans are home

1631
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 1: against San Fran, home against Miami, and then at Houston.

1632
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: They're winning too. They're done. Okay, we'll remember that. Moving

1633
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 1: ahead now to the Bengals at the Broncos. Tyler Boyd

1634
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: with a long touchdown Dan Horde on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen

1635
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 1: thirty and the Bengals Radio Network. The Bengals don't huddle.

1636
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 1: They snap it to Burrow, throw us downfield for a

1637
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 1: wide up. Boyd catch us at the thirty, great truck

1638
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: cut back toward the middle of the field of the ten,

1639
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 1: the five touchdown. Bengals a fifty six yard answer Choe

1640
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: Burrow to Tyler Boyd and the Bengals are back in front.

1641
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:27,560
Speaker 1: About the Bengals, Pete, it's a good team. It's a

1642
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: good young team. And they got a big game this

1643
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 1: week with the Ravens. And remember last time they played

1644
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,719
Speaker 1: the Ravens they dominated them. And the Ravens are banged

1645
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 1: up across the board. Man, their secondary is bad right now,

1646
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: So I look, the Bengals have a real shot to

1647
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: win that division. About that a real chance. They were

1648
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 1: terrible last year, good this year. Forts over the Falcons thirteen,

1649
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: and then the Packers held on against the Ravens. They

1650
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 1: went for two point try late the Ravens did it

1651
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: failed the Packers win. Wayne lav he had the call

1652
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,600
Speaker 1: on the Packers radio network motion from a tight end

1653
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 1: of the wing of the left side, Huntley and the

1654
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: shot gun lot Tavias Burry to his right, sniffed to Huntley,

1655
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 1: rolls right, throws right side of the ends Tennison complete, incomplete,

1656
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: right corner of the ends on in front of the

1657
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 1: pilot and incomplete. The Packers are gonna hang on and

1658
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 1: win this game. Pete, how do you feel about those calls?

1659
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 1: Going for two? Well? Did Wayne not realize that there

1660
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: was also an onside kick coming too? There wasn't the

1661
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 1: left look that one I had no problem with. And

1662
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 1: here's why they The Packers had done whatever they wanted

1663
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,520
Speaker 1: to on offense. They were really struggling in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: They had the momentum. I don't. I don't have any

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Speaker 1: issue with that one. I normally I would push back

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Speaker 1: on something like that, but that situation, go for it.

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Speaker 1: And Huntley played well. By the way he played, he

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Speaker 1: did some really good things. The Saints over the Buccketeers.

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Speaker 1: The last team that shut out Tom Brady was coached

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Speaker 1: by Nick Saban. That's how long ago that was nine nothing.

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Speaker 1: The score yesterday Saints over the Buccaneers. Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: A couple of games one underway right now, the Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders and the Cleveland Browns, and then later tonight

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings and the Chicago Bears. Who you got

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Speaker 1: tonight in a doubleheader. Guys, that was terrible, by the way,

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Speaker 1: that was the worst one I've ever had. As almost

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Speaker 1: as bad as your jacket because he was, you know why,

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Speaker 1: because there were two games and he was kind of

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Speaker 1: discombobulated a little bit. They threw him off his bo

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Speaker 1: almost as bad as his jacket. The Raiders and the

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Speaker 1: Project Man. COVID has just wrecked them. And then no

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks there down to the third Street quarterback in tonight,

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Speaker 1: I like Minnesota talking about people haven't paid attention. Chicago's

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Speaker 1: ravaged by Covids as Cleveland. Almost the entire secondaries out.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins has a huge day. Raiders lead at seven nothing,

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Speaker 1: by the way, six minutes left in the second quarter.

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Speaker 1: And Tuesday see ton't let the Rams Washington Philly. That

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Speaker 1: means go Rams Philly. By the way, the NFL loves

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Speaker 1: they don't like COVID, but they love playing games every

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Speaker 1: night of the week. I can tell you that ratings.

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Speaker 1: Banan Bonanza, Pete, have a great week, Peter. All right, guys, Mary,

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Speaker 1: Christmas to you. I don't Christmas Pete, Chrisco the Grinch laugh.

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Speaker 1: He didn't bring it out tonight. Joe Fortunato in the

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Speaker 1: audio tell my wife he made fun of my jackets

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Speaker 1: about me. A yeah, I like it. It's comfortable. He

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Speaker 1: was coming at me. I didn't bring it back to him.

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Speaker 1: Chick Chicks dig. That's Tony Vaselli. I'm J. P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: We've had enough. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Digital Network