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Speaker 1: Douglas Murray gave a speech in Paris recently talking about
Speaker 1: Israel and Hamas and anti Semitism. We have divided a
Speaker 1: substantial part of it into four cuts. We can discuss
Speaker 1: in between as desired. Michael, We're starting with ninety there.
Speaker 1: We should have gotten ready for that, and we'll go
Speaker 1: from there. Hit it.
Speaker 3: I've spent most of the months since the seventh October
Speaker 3: in Israel and Gaza and have seen as much of
Speaker 3: the conflicts I think it's possible for non combatant to see.
Speaker 3: I've been went to all of the massacre sites when
Speaker 3: they were still fresh.
Speaker 1: Has spent a lot of.
Speaker 3: Time with the survivors, the families of the hostages. I've
Speaker 3: been in the morgues of Tel Aviv where they're still
Speaker 3: trying to identify the dead. One young man's body was
Speaker 3: only identified yesterday, and think what it takes what you
Speaker 3: have to do to a man to make his body
Speaker 3: unidentifiable for eight months.
Speaker 1: This is more than just a recitation of horror. He's
Speaker 1: working toward greater points. But roll on, Michael.
Speaker 3: One of the things that struck me most after the
Speaker 3: seventh October was I was at one of the reunions
Speaker 3: of the Nova Party, and these are all young people
Speaker 3: who'd seen their friends raped and murdered in front of them.
Speaker 3: One young man, a survivor, showed me footage from his phone,
Speaker 3: and it included footage of a young friend of his
Speaker 3: who didn't make it into his car and was lynched
Speaker 3: by a mob immediately afterwards. This young man, this survivor,
Speaker 3: said to me, what would you do if this happened
Speaker 3: in your country? And I thought, I didn't say, but
Speaker 3: it has happened in my society, in my Europe, in
Speaker 3: my West. The scale may be different, but the terrorists
Speaker 3: are the same. It happened here in Paris at the Butterclaar.
Speaker 1: It happened in.
Speaker 3: Manchester where twenty two young girls were blown up for
Speaker 3: the crime of going to a pop concert. It happened
Speaker 3: at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando.
Speaker 1: The scale was.
Speaker 3: Different, but the perpetrators are all the same. They're always
Speaker 3: the same people who, whether in Toulouse or Porte de Vassnnese,
Speaker 3: Copenhagen or Mumbai, can never restrain themselves from targeting the Jews.
Speaker 3: Yet the sympathy of so many people here in Europe
Speaker 3: since then has not been on the side of the victims,
Speaker 3: but on the side of the perpetrators. Too many people
Speaker 3: mistake the victim for the oppressor, the underdog for the overdog,
Speaker 3: and those who fight terrorism with those who dream of
Speaker 3: it and bring up their children to love it from
Speaker 3: the cradle.
Speaker 1: If you're not familiar with that list of four Mumbai
Speaker 1: among them, those are all notable terrible, deadly attacks by
Speaker 1: Islami fascists, Islamic supremacists, whatever you want to call them,
Speaker 1: on innocent people, terrorist attacks, they comment, or shall we
Speaker 1: roll ont finish and then I will next clip. Consider this.
Speaker 3: In every European capital as well as in America, photographs
Speaker 3: of the Israeli hostages still in captivity Bayjamas have been
Speaker 3: put up, and in every city outside of Israel they
Speaker 3: have been torn down.
Speaker 1: Think about that for a moment.
Speaker 3: If someone in London or Paris loses their dog. They
Speaker 3: will put up a poster asking people to help find them.
Speaker 3: And if even one person in our society went around
Speaker 3: tearing down such a poster, we would ask what had
Speaker 3: happened in our society. We would ask why we were
Speaker 3: producing people so pathological. We would want to find the
Speaker 3: person and punish them. Yet, when the missing a Jewish children,
Speaker 3: or Jewish women or Jewish men, because there's no crime
Speaker 3: in being a man either, these posts are torn down.
Speaker 3: One of the relatives of the be Best children held
Speaker 3: in captivity told me recently that he saw posts as
Speaker 3: of his one year old relative torn down in the
Speaker 3: center of Dublin.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That that's a stunning point right there. You have
Speaker 2: got to be some sort of warped individual. Apparently there
Speaker 2: are a lot of them to take down those posters.
Speaker 2: Even if you believe all of the nonsense of the
Speaker 2: land belonged to the Palestinians and the Jewish people stole it.
Speaker 2: Even if you believe all that stuff, you're still against
Speaker 2: the Jewish families getting their kids back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you one percent. But there's example
Speaker 1: after example just in the last century of ideology, particularly
Speaker 1: extremist ideology, warping what seemed like normal people and turning
Speaker 1: them into monsters. And often when that fever and era
Speaker 1: of history passes, they cannot explain how they got swept
Speaker 1: up in it and became monsters. Yeah, I know it
Speaker 1: has the way humans are.
Speaker 2: I knew what had happened in New York and a
Speaker 2: number of our college campuses. I didn't know what happened
Speaker 2: everywhere in the world outside of Israel where those posters
Speaker 2: got torn down.
Speaker 1: That is highly troubling. The brilliant Douglas Murray in the
Speaker 1: final clip. One other consideration.
Speaker 3: We have all for years heard the feminists issue a
Speaker 3: call on male sexual violence against women. Believe all women,
Speaker 3: But where was the solidarity? Where was the sympathy or
Speaker 3: even belief? When the women would Jews, the belief evaporates.
Speaker 3: And I won't even go into the psycho pathology and
Speaker 3: suicidalism of Queers for Palestine, who are a branch of
Speaker 3: Turkeys for Christmas. It was Hamaz that started this war.
Speaker 3: Yet much of the world has forgotten this. They've been
Speaker 3: fooled by Hamaz propaganda into imagining that Israel is the aggressor.
Speaker 3: Having seen this war up close, I can tell you
Speaker 3: with one hundred percent certainty that the war would be
Speaker 3: over tomorrow, not just if Hamaz returned the Jewish hostages,
Speaker 3: but if the Palestinians in Gaza brought up their children
Speaker 3: not to hate, but to love, not to aspire to
Speaker 3: a cult of death, but to join Israel in a
Speaker 3: belief in life, not to believe in destroying a state,
Speaker 3: but to put their energies into building one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is something that whole believe all woman me
Speaker 2: too thing that obviously the road stopped on that at
Speaker 2: Jewish women being raped to death.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was.
Speaker 4: We had a clip this morning of that woman screaming
Speaker 4: I support Hamas, I am Hamas outside of the White
Speaker 4: House over the weekend, and prior to her saying that,
Speaker 4: in the clip, she was screaming about all sorts of
Speaker 4: other stuff, and one of the things she started screaming house.
Speaker 1: They didn't there was no rape that didn't happen.
Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there and I'm looking at this huge
Speaker 4: group of people going I wonder how many of them
Speaker 4: were out there during the me too rallies. Yeah, because
Speaker 4: it's all the same kind of people that go to
Speaker 4: these protests.
Speaker 1: All of them. But that does help their argument they
Speaker 1: don't believe those stories. So okay, you know, a final note,
Speaker 1: and if you listen to the radio show you are
Speaker 1: the armstrung and getting on demand, you're going to hear
Speaker 1: this again. But I just wanted to throw in just
Speaker 1: a little bit of what Sam Harris wrote recently. Is
Speaker 1: another thinker who I admire even when I don't agree
Speaker 1: with him. He provokes my thought. But he unleashed rather
Speaker 1: a long peace about fundamentalist Islam and how it's a
Speaker 1: political system and a relentively expansionist political system and totalitarian
Speaker 1: political system, and compares it and contrasts it in some
Speaker 1: ways with Christianity, which is also expansionist. But is you know,
Speaker 1: the blessed or the meek, for they will inherit the
Speaker 1: earth when it's done right. Christianity does not employ force
Speaker 1: in any way. And he gets to the fact that
Speaker 1: Islam from the first moment was a religion of power,
Speaker 1: and to quote him, the idea of non Muslims ruling
Speaker 1: over Muslims or even having equivalent power alongside them perpetually
Speaker 1: has always been anathema. It's an error to be rectified
Speaker 1: through spiritual struggle, sure, but also through physical violence. The
Speaker 1: fact that Islam has failed to achieve dominance in our
Speaker 1: world and has proven for nearly a thousand years to
Speaker 1: be quite backward and weak, is a perennial source of humiliation.
Speaker 1: By the light of the doctrine, it makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 1: It's a sacrilege. From the point of view of Islam.
Speaker 1: The status quo is in tolerable. And then he brings
Speaker 1: it to what we're talking about, and this general attitude
Speaker 1: of affronted dignity, this yearning for victory, which century after
Speaker 1: century has been out of reach, affects everything that Islam touches.
Speaker 1: It is why the history of peace negotiations between Israel
Speaker 1: and the Palestinians has been so hopeless. Have the Israelis
Speaker 1: made mistakes, of course, do the Jews have their own
Speaker 1: religious fanatics, yes, But the peace process between the Israelis
Speaker 1: and the Palestinians has been rendered hopeless from the start
Speaker 1: because for a majority of Palestinians and for the vast
Speaker 1: numbers of Muslims in the region, the mere presence of
Speaker 1: a Jewish state in the Holy Land is totally unacceptable.
Speaker 1: It's a knakma, a catastrophe. It is a perversion of
Speaker 1: sacred history and it is an abject failure of the
Speaker 1: mission of Islam, which is to conquer the world for
Speaker 1: the glory of God, and above all, to never forsake
Speaker 1: Muslim lands once they have been conquered, which of course
Speaker 1: Palestine once was. And then it goes into some quotes
Speaker 1: from the Koran which make it clear that fundamentalists killing
Speaker 1: people to achieve their goals is just a hunky dory.
Speaker 1: But I think the point that Sam Harris is making
Speaker 1: is absolutely fundamental to all of this. They can't come
Speaker 1: to a settlement with Israel and reach a two state solution.
Speaker 1: They want a one state solution, even if everybody dies,
Speaker 1: everybody on both sides, two state solution. Please sell your
Speaker 1: idiot fantasies somewhere else. We're not buying. I'm not buying.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the question is Secretary of State's over there trying
Speaker 2: to work that deal out with Saudi Arabia where we
Speaker 2: have some sort of agreement with them like we have
Speaker 2: with Japan, where we would come to their aid if
Speaker 2: they were attacked, and which Saudi Arabia would love that
Speaker 2: because that helps them in that whole battle with Iran.
Speaker 2: But Saudi Arabia has to get on board with accepting,
Speaker 2: you know, normalizing relationship with Israel. They're saying, and they
Speaker 2: won't do that unless one the war ends and two
Speaker 2: they commit to a two state solution. But whether or
Speaker 2: not they actually mean that or not is an open question,
Speaker 2: Like if MBS might be willing to say, yeah, and
Speaker 2: you have to commit to us two state solutions sometime,
Speaker 2: but doesn't actually enforce it.
Speaker 1: Right for domestic political consumption, much as Anthony Blanket is
Speaker 1: desperate for things to calm down a little bit for
Speaker 1: domestic political consumption. Yeah, so that's those are the next
Speaker 1: steps there. That'd be a huge deal. Again, if politics
Speaker 1: was restricted to people only saying what they actually meant,
Speaker 1: that like eighty percent of it would have vanish. The
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Speaker 1: wherever you like to get podcasts the whole Like younger people,
Speaker 1: people in their twenties in the workplace thing that a
Speaker 1: number of people have observed and I've had this experience
Speaker 1: myself and are having the problem with the level of
Speaker 1: like familiarity and lack.
Speaker 2: Of And it's hard to say this without sounding like
Speaker 2: a but just just like you go into a workplace
Speaker 2: where you want to be what the older people are,
Speaker 2: but you treat them like peers in a very too
Speaker 2: familiar way that didn't exist throughout my entire career. And
Speaker 2: I just had that experience here and now they are
Speaker 2: having this person other person's having it at their workplace
Speaker 2: just like.
Speaker 1: Way too much. You know, Hey, Bud, how's it going, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up dude? A lack of respect? Yeah, And again
Speaker 1: it's hard to say it without sounding like it.
Speaker 2: But when I started in various jobs, I didn't talk
Speaker 2: to the older people that had the jobs I wanted
Speaker 2: that way and like suggesting ways they ought to do
Speaker 2: things differently.
Speaker 1: And just and I've had a.
Speaker 2: Couple of people mention that sort of thing, and what
Speaker 2: we were discussing is where that comes from? Joe and
Speaker 2: I regularly say and I never hear anybody else say this.
Speaker 2: They didn't raise themselves. But culturally, why do young people
Speaker 2: come into the workplace and feel like they can treat
Speaker 2: their betters as to their beers.
Speaker 1: Okay, I said they're better while that you do something
Speaker 1: like end up British No less, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the right term would be, but uh no, I get,
Speaker 1: I get exactly what you're saying. I don't know, just
Speaker 1: off the top of my head. I think it probably
Speaker 1: has to do with virtually all of our experience was
Speaker 1: actual back in the day, and every generation would layer
Speaker 1: a little new laquer details on the way people act
Speaker 1: in quotes, come up with variations and change it a
Speaker 1: little bit. But now so much of people's experience is virtual.
Speaker 1: They're not They're not a product of what they've experienced
Speaker 1: in the same way. I don't know that helped.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe if you're gonna go with multi causal, I
Speaker 2: can throw out a whole bunch of multi causal I think.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the some of the fruits of the
Speaker 2: everybody gets a trophy generation, which has been going on
Speaker 2: for quite a while now. But true, that's part of it.
Speaker 2: The self esteem movement. We went way too far too
Speaker 2: much self esteem, is what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1: You got a miserable failure.
Speaker 2: You've got way too much self esteem for your age
Speaker 2: and where you are, all right, take it down a notch.
Speaker 1: Then what you've accomplished, Yeah, you know, more importantly that
Speaker 1: and the hold the parenting trend. If I want to
Speaker 1: be my kid's friend, not their parent, right, you have something, Michael.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm ashamed to say this, but I watched a
Speaker 6: manager reprimand a young reporter and you know, it was
Speaker 6: over something very minor, but he basically said, you know,
Speaker 6: you need to pick it up, you need to you know,
Speaker 6: get with it.
Speaker 1: You're sitting around.
Speaker 6: And the young reporter looked at him and said, I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: but I've never been talked.
Speaker 1: To that way.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I can work here. And this
Speaker 6: person was like twenty five years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so again getting to my mono causal stuff. No
Speaker 2: teacher can talk to kids that way. So if your
Speaker 2: parents aren't talking to you that way, the teachers, the coaches,
Speaker 2: nobody ever talks to you in any sort of way
Speaker 2: that kind of puts you in your place.
Speaker 1: And again it makes me sound like it, but there
Speaker 1: is a place.
Speaker 2: There's a place for children, there's a place for people
Speaker 2: lower on the wrung.
Speaker 1: There's a place. There's a structure, there's a hierarchy in life.
Speaker 1: There just is. I sure as hell hope there is.
Speaker 1: Like when I go in for a surgery, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that person did well in medical school, for instance, Yes, Katie.
Speaker 4: Well no, I just think about a lot of the
Speaker 4: younger people too, have kind of been growing up in
Speaker 4: that anti law enforcement generation, Like they don't respect the cops.
Speaker 4: What's going to make you think they're going to expect respect?
Speaker 4: You know, somebody who might have worked at a company
Speaker 4: for five years more than them.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think that the lack of respect for law enforcement
Speaker 4: kind of trickles down.
Speaker 2: I don't actually know. It might just be all of
Speaker 2: these things, but I have experienced and it's really off putting.
Speaker 2: I'm going to try to explain to my kids to
Speaker 2: have a different attitude when they go into a workplace.
Speaker 2: The people above you with way more experience making a
Speaker 2: lot more money than you. How about you watch and
Speaker 2: observe as opposed to think your peers they got something
Speaker 2: you you might want at some level. I've come across
Speaker 2: enough people bringing this up to know what's a thing.
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Speaker 1: We do a new one every day. Find it wherever
Speaker 1: you find your podcast is now, Katie, you don't know this, probably,
Speaker 1: but Jack and I have had a long running and
Speaker 1: bitter dispute. I really like appetizers or if I'm out
Speaker 1: to eat or whatever. He's got, like he's a member
Speaker 1: of ISIS, He's got this militant anti appetizer belief. That's stupid.
Speaker 1: Just have the meal. Have the meal. You don't need
Speaker 1: to have appetizers. And anyway, I won't go any further
Speaker 1: because again we're not bad mouthing him, okay, and is
Speaker 1: insane and unsupportable some would say idiotic beliefs. But Jack
Speaker 1: is anti appetizer. I, on the other hand, love appetizers,
Speaker 1: and in fact, Judy and I went to a breast
Speaker 1: cancer fundraiser just last night and I bought at probably
Speaker 1: excessive cost, but it wasn't a purchase, it's a donation.
Speaker 1: I bought an appetizer of the month club membership in
Speaker 1: which some of the gifted chefs associated with this community slash.
Speaker 1: It was a golf club. They deliver to your home
Speaker 1: like a gourmet appetizer once a month. I know that's awesome,
Speaker 1: I know. So I'll say, yeah, can we do it
Speaker 1: this coming Friday, And they'll say absolutely, and they'll show
Speaker 1: up with like this brilliantly crafted stuffed mushrooms or something
Speaker 1: like that. It's a great excuse to have like friends
Speaker 1: over for a glass of wine and stuff and we
Speaker 1: get the credit. Oh that is so cool. No, I
Speaker 1: know it.
Speaker 4: Okay, So what kind of things do they offer? So
Speaker 4: stuff mushrooms obviously, are there other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I realized that this the very term has a
Speaker 1: negative connotation, but I don't know why. They did like
Speaker 1: a super delicious cheeseball, one of those big cheeseballs you
Speaker 1: dig in with the knife and put it on crackers.
Speaker 1: But it was like home crafted, Oh cheeseball. Those are
Speaker 1: good cheeseballs. Yeah, that sounds awesome to me. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: a friend, a friend of ours, actually bought this last
Speaker 1: year and I can't remember what else. They're like a
Speaker 1: shrimp thing and various canna pis whatever that is, but
Speaker 1: just super yummy like gourmet appetizers. Yeah. See, this sounds
Speaker 1: like I'm so excited to me. Yeah. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: and particularly I mean it was several hundred dollars again,
Speaker 1: it's a donation, not a purchase. But when you look
Speaker 1: at what you see, bend to like go out for
Speaker 1: a nice dinner now, especially if you have a bottle
Speaker 1: of wine or something. Oh crap. So anyway, I'm happy
Speaker 1: to contribute. Judy, actually she quilted a thing, a golf
Speaker 1: cart seat cover that fits like custom fits around the
Speaker 1: little what do you call it, the hip rest things
Speaker 1: to keep you from sliding off the end of it.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so we made a nice donation too. It's
Speaker 1: a nice, nice fundraiser. Anyway. The game across this article
Speaker 1: playground bullies do prosper and go on to earn more
Speaker 1: in middle age. This is a five decade study that's thorough.
Speaker 1: It britz Children who displayed aggressive behavior at school, such
Speaker 1: as bullying or temper outbursts, are likely to earn more
Speaker 1: money in middle age, according to a five decade study
Speaker 1: that upends the maxim that bullies do not prosper. Any
Speaker 1: reaction to that, Katie, off the top of your head,
Speaker 1: I can kind of see.
Speaker 4: Where they're going with this, because the people that are
Speaker 4: more outspoken maybe going further in business rather than the
Speaker 4: meek that get picked on.
Speaker 1: I can see that. Yeah, this is one of the
Speaker 1: reasons I'm so militant about in schools not making little
Speaker 1: boys act like little girls, nor should you make little
Speaker 1: girls act like little boys. Let them be themselves, but
Speaker 1: the idea that you're to sit still and be quiet
Speaker 1: and just like the girls are doing. Because a as
Speaker 1: a youth coach, mostly in soccer, I coach baseball and
Speaker 1: softball a little bit too, but observing the difference between
Speaker 1: boys and girls. And then I coached gosh, I coached
Speaker 1: eight year old boys, ten year old boys, twelve year
Speaker 1: old boys, that sort of range, and then fourteen year
Speaker 1: old girls was the oldest I ever coached. But I
Speaker 1: would watch ten year old boys and there are like
Speaker 1: fifteen guys on the team, right, So it's a nice
Speaker 1: like selection of different sources of human beings. And you
Speaker 1: could see, Okay, that kid is going to be a
Speaker 1: dynamic leader, but at age ten, he's obnoxious because he
Speaker 1: has the tool, but he doesn't know how to wield
Speaker 1: it properly. That's a great point. Yeah, just and I
Speaker 1: wish I'd thought about this more, but I could give
Speaker 1: you more examples of just they're all diamonds in the rough.
Speaker 1: I mean, some of them are probably going to end
Speaker 1: up in jail or beating their spouse or something like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, not everybody's a diamond, but they're they're too
Speaker 1: much of everything. But that's how you end up, I
Speaker 1: think with a good man. It's very rare that a
Speaker 1: meek Well, no, I don't want to I don't want
Speaker 1: to overstate this because some people are just introverts. But
Speaker 1: we need to get back to boys will be boys,
Speaker 1: and that that's saying has been perverted to mean allegedly
Speaker 1: so they can do anything they want. But no, that's
Speaker 1: not what that saying means at all. It means you
Speaker 1: have to put up with the excesses of boyhood to
Speaker 1: end up with good men. Now I'm a poor bullying
Speaker 1: but go ahead.
Speaker 4: No, I like what you said too about they have
Speaker 4: the tool, they just don't know how to use it yet.
Speaker 1: Because you do.
Speaker 4: You might see a leader in this ten year old,
Speaker 4: but that not yet because right now they don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're loud and obnoxious, yeah, or they bully
Speaker 1: for instance. Now, some bullies remain bullies in their a
Speaker 1: holes and I hate them and I hope they go
Speaker 1: to prison. But some people, you know, this is if
Speaker 1: I haven't told this story in ages. I remember the
Speaker 1: first time I told this story. Now, Gladys, do you
Speaker 1: play the harp when I'm thinking about I'm looking back
Speaker 1: at telling a story about looking back? Yeah, she's here
Speaker 1: for do you play the harp twice? Or how does
Speaker 1: that work? Doesn't he just go ahead and start talking?
Speaker 1: So I was, uh, I was having this argument with
Speaker 1: a frenemy. Okay, he I was like the pitcher on
Speaker 1: the baseball team, the high school baseball team, and he
Speaker 1: was the catcher, and he was a really good catcher,
Speaker 1: really good ballplayer. But he and I had this like
Speaker 1: two alpha dogs thing going on, and so there was
Speaker 1: respect and all, but we clashed. We clashed a fair amount,
Speaker 1: and we got We got into it one time verbally
Speaker 1: and he said to me, and I wish I had
Speaker 1: I wish I had written the quote down. He said
Speaker 1: something like, I'm not even going to get into it
Speaker 1: with you because you'll cut me to bits. And I
Speaker 1: thought he sees my verbal ability as a tool of
Speaker 1: meanness and cruelty. And I thought, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be that guy ever. Again. I don't want to, I mean,
Speaker 1: unless somebody's got a coming I decided, Okay, I have
Speaker 1: the ability to hurt people with words, I am never
Speaker 1: going to do that to an innocent victim. And maybe
Speaker 1: I've lapsed at times of loss of temper or what
Speaker 1: have you in the intervening years, but I've never thought
Speaker 1: of myself. Part of it is I never thought of
Speaker 1: myself as a bully, because I would never hurt anybody physical, right.
Speaker 1: But I realized at that moment he used me as
Speaker 1: some sort of verbal bully, and I thought, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be that and so, and I hate that.
Speaker 1: This is painful for me to admit that I might
Speaker 1: have kind of been that quote unquote bully who then
Speaker 1: grew up to not be a bully as an adult.
Speaker 4: That's interesting because when you said what when you quoted
Speaker 4: what he said, I heard it as like you were
Speaker 4: you have more of a verbal ability than him, Not
Speaker 4: that you're cruel with your words, but that you you
Speaker 4: could verbally take him if you guys were to get
Speaker 4: into an argument.
Speaker 1: Right, right, I guess I guess The subtlety of it
Speaker 1: is I always saw it as like winning an argument
Speaker 1: as opposed to leaving a victim. Okay, well, it's you know,
Speaker 1: like the typical adolescent. It was self centered. I looked
Speaker 1: at it from my point of view. I win, and
Speaker 1: I spanked him and sent him running. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: hadn't developed the compassion to really see it from the
Speaker 1: other person's perspective. And like I say, if it's somebody
Speaker 1: trying to, for instance, you know, like push experimental sex
Speaker 1: change procedures on children, I'll rip them apart. If I can,
Speaker 1: I will turn every skill I have full blast for
Speaker 1: the kid's sake. But like I said, no, no, nobody
Speaker 1: who doesn't have it coming, I just won't do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And recognizing that about yourself too is a big
Speaker 4: thing because I have a very similar I like to
Speaker 4: call it a sharp tongue, especially when I.
Speaker 1: Hear that at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I don't have that one bit.
Speaker 4: But that's something that I've been working on my whole life,
Speaker 4: is realizing Yo, okay, cool it because I know that
Speaker 4: once it takes off, bad news bears.
Speaker 1: Right, right, you don't punch everybody who deserves it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you don't, you know, strip them naked with your
Speaker 1: verbiage if they don't deserve it either, even though you can.
Speaker 1: And when they do, though, alway, is it fun? So
Speaker 1: now the temper outburst thing is interesting. They found an
Speaker 1: increase in teachers observations of conduct problems such as temper
Speaker 1: outbursts or bullying or teasing other children, was associated with
Speaker 1: an increase in earnings of nearly four percent of any
Speaker 1: given rise in conduct problems for boys or girls. That
Speaker 1: compares to a six percent rise for higher cognition skills,
Speaker 1: and so as a measure of who's going to do well,
Speaker 1: at least financially an old boy, Now that I think
Speaker 1: about it, that's an interesting way to measure this anyway,
Speaker 1: But being like hot tempered is almost as good an
Speaker 1: indie cater of being successful in life is being smart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, based off how they put it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Wow, it's forty percent of six Well, I
Speaker 1: guess you could say it's fifty percent more likely, but
Speaker 1: you see my point. Further analysis showed that by age sixteen,
Speaker 1: those with the conduct problems were more sociable as teenagers
Speaker 1: and were more likely to smoke and be arrested at
Speaker 1: some point in their lives. Oh there's that. Wow. So
Speaker 1: is it just being more dynamic in general? I do
Speaker 1: not know. Yeah, They point out, many people, many successful
Speaker 1: people have had various problems in school like Winston Churchill,
Speaker 1: various folks expelled, suspended who ended up being famous or
Speaker 1: successful or what have you. Well like in today's news.
Speaker 4: I mean, look at Trump, He's considered a bully.
Speaker 1: He's probably didn't like that his whole life. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he's still a bully. It's one of the things
Speaker 1: I don't particularly like about him.
Speaker 6: But I was thinking about Steve Jobs, genius, but I've
Speaker 6: heard he was a complete bully.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right at when. Yeah, I was picturing
Speaker 1: his youth, but yeah, running apple, he was absolutely was. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe this boils down to and this is
Speaker 1: an old, old message. Don't make kids sit still and
Speaker 1: be quiet and all act the same because they're not
Speaker 1: the same. There's a cynical view of education that modern
Speaker 1: education exists purely to turn people into rule following drones.
Speaker 1: And you know, I certainly hope that's I know a
Speaker 1: lot of gifted teachers and that's not what they're trying
Speaker 1: to do. But just to what, to whatever extent, that's
Speaker 1: what's happening. Resist that, Yeah, a big yick. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: need more kids who end up smoking and getting arrested
Speaker 1: because the other ones will be Winston Churchill. I think
Speaker 1: that's our takeaway here. What something like that nailed that
Speaker 1: your sweatshirt either says I p A or E p A.
Speaker 2: I assume it says I p A like the beer,
Speaker 2: and not E p A like the you're not wearing
Speaker 2: a sweatshirt.
Speaker 1: That you wouldn't catch me dead in an ep A
Speaker 1: swatcher Environmental Protection Agency swag. I was just gonna say
Speaker 1: how many how many agency government agencies have swag? I
Speaker 1: know the CIA and FBI? Do do they like for
Speaker 1: public purchase?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely cool. I might have to get some of that.
Speaker 1: I wear my FBI swag all the time and arrest people.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna get the CIA stuff. I need you
Speaker 2: to open your trunk.
Speaker 1: I bring them to justice. Open the trunk. Please you
Speaker 1: make lights on your car too, so you can really
Speaker 1: who are you? I'll ask questions. You open the trunk.
Speaker 1: Can I see your badge? Can I see your hands
Speaker 1: behind your back? And then I cup them?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: So this I hope this.
Speaker 2: I hope this works what I'm about to do here.
Speaker 2: I came across this last night and I laughed out
Speaker 2: loud several times. So it's a guy with a kind
Speaker 2: of funny laugh and this is pretty long. He's speaking
Speaker 2: a different language. I don't even know what language it is,
Speaker 2: but I don't speak it. But it was still funny
Speaker 2: and I could pick up on the universal cadence of
Speaker 2: telling a story. And then he starts laughing about the
Speaker 2: story and then filling in more details and continues to laugh,
Speaker 2: and the other guy's laughing, and it just and then like,
Speaker 2: you know, then you won't believe this, and then they
Speaker 2: I guess that's what he's saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't speak the language.
Speaker 2: But if this is funny to you the way it
Speaker 2: was to me, I think it says something about humor
Speaker 2: or because I've often thought people that are really really funny, hey,
Speaker 2: and don't they don't even need words. Their timing is
Speaker 2: so good. The joke doesn't even have to they even
Speaker 2: have to be a joke. The time means it's so
Speaker 2: perfect it's funny just with the timing. Yeah, I suppose anyway,
Speaker 2: we'll see if this is funny or not. You're not
Speaker 2: supposed to understand what this person is saying. He's telling
Speaker 2: the story good loud, Michaels.
Speaker 7: Hey, chank. Now we're gonna Chandler here.
Speaker 5: You're your money in the.
Speaker 7: Battle, even goes, yeah, they dropped, I know.
Speaker 8: I got that. Yeah, tell you.
Speaker 1: By Dude is amused.
Speaker 2: First of all, I would like to have somebody translate
Speaker 2: that story to me, because.
Speaker 1: I just feel like at some point it was like
Speaker 1: and then no, you won't believe this that she walks
Speaker 1: in with a canary on her head. No I'm not
Speaker 1: done yet.
Speaker 2: Her husband turns around and he says, but a dog
Speaker 2: comes into the room.
Speaker 1: And hold on, I'm not done. I just hope the
Speaker 1: translation of that story isn't they were complaining about how
Speaker 1: loud my party was, so I went to their home
Speaker 1: and murdered them all.
Speaker 2: Or it's incredibly yeah, it's incredibly graphic sexually or something.
Speaker 1: I mean just like the racist or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh my god, the record.
Speaker 1: We got no idea what Bro was saying, and that.
Speaker 2: Maybe you should have run this by somebody who speaks
Speaker 2: whatever language that is before.
Speaker 1: Rapping this out.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, yeah, exactly, because this could be the most racist, sexist,
Speaker 2: overtly horrifying joke you've ever heard in your life.
Speaker 1: And then the Nazis don't even say it. Boy Dude's
Speaker 1: laugh was just insane. Wait wait, I thought that was it. No,
Speaker 1: that's not the end of it. It must about a
Speaker 1: heck of a joke.
Speaker 4: I think his laugh might have been what was making
Speaker 4: you laugh, because it just just his laugh itself was
Speaker 4: was funny?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I would clearly the infectious laugh had something
Speaker 1: to do with it.
Speaker 2: I would like to have the slightest idea what the
Speaker 2: story was about, because it's got many tags, and just
Speaker 2: when you think it's over, it's not.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly, yeah that her husband, Her husband says, no, seriously,
Speaker 1: this is what he said, right. Uh yeah, I wonder
Speaker 1: can we run that through Google trap figure out what
Speaker 1: sort of horror we've unleashed the closet and his mom
Speaker 1: is standing there and just keeps going and going. The
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